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| 00:34.23 | Wormy_ | HI |
| 00:35.14 | Wormy_ | Hachimam: I want more Bob the Builder memes |
| 00:35.20 | Wormy_ | Hachiman |
| 00:35.59 | Liquid_Ink | Coming rright up |
| 00:36.31 | Liquid_Ink | https://scontent-syd1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14650228_1710285532625737_2109638760002673099_n.jpg?oh=e014f8c3b3e335884eb35f55fdc5f2a4&oe=58A65659' |
| 00:36.39 | Liquid_Ink | https://scontent-syd1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14650228_1710285532625737_2109638760002673099_n.jpg?oh=e014f8c3b3e335884eb35f55fdc5f2a4&oe=58A65659 |
| 00:36.57 | Wormy_ | Aye, Hachi just posted that one |
| 00:37.34 | Liquid_Ink | Damn |
| 00:38.28 | Tybusen | Are we letting me_irl memes infect this channel too |
| 00:40.13 | Liquid_Ink | ? |
| 00:42.18 | Wormy_ | Close your eyes and listen at around 50 seconds https://youtu.be/NoIx99QxJ_o?t=48s |
| 00:42.47 | Wormy_ | No, thats Bob the Builder |
| 00:52.35 | Wormy_ | Well, looks like Hello Games abandoned its office http://www.gadgethelpline.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/hello-games-e1476444283565.png |
| 00:53.41 | Hachiman | Ouch |
| 00:54.29 | Technobliterator | So, the company is finished? |
| 00:54.35 | Technobliterator | Not even going to support their game? |
| 00:55.27 | Technobliterator | Part of me feels bad, since they'll probably lose a lot of money, and I don't know if any of them will get another career in games development again |
| 00:55.56 | Technobliterator | "I worked on the biggest disappointment of 2016 that was delayed for years and still lacked dozens of features advertised" doesn't look great on your resume |
| 00:57.35 | Wormy_ | There hasn't even been any bug fixing patches in nearly a month |
| 00:58.46 | Technobliterator | I saw that their twitter hasn't posted in months |
| 00:59.22 | Wormy_ | There was a rumour they would be coming out with a huge patch this month to add content, but there's no sign of it |
| 01:00.03 | Technobliterator | I don't know how the devs didn't see it coming, honestly |
| 01:00.31 | Wormy_ | I think what happened was that they had an incomplete game before release, possibly they pushed back the release date to cut out things people noticed were lacking since the trailers. |
| 01:01.12 | Wormy_ | But the silence is no help if you want to keep a playerbase before releasing future content |
| 01:03.22 | Hachiman | Sean Murray lies / fucks up again |
| 01:03.25 | Hachiman | No big surprise |
| 01:04.07 | Wormy_ | That being said, I'm not disappointed in my purchase, I bought the game knowing it'd be pretty shallow in content. What I didn't anticipate was that they had overblown the ideas on their procedural universe. I thought for example things like high gravity planets would have smaller lifeforms and so on, and that I'd see wildlife interact. They described stuff like this, saying you could explore even without a hyperdrive and that |
| 01:04.13 | Wormy_ | to their environment |
| 01:05.15 | Wormy_ | I wish that exploring would be more a challenge, that it'd actually feel like you could interact with the environment and really feel it like a proper sandbox or sim game |
| 01:05.34 | Wormy_ | Space Engineers achieves all this and yet it started out small |
| 01:06.24 | Wormy_ | I like how in SE, you could build machines and vehicles but not all of them work and different planets have different gravity |
| 01:06.33 | DrodoEmpire | I think NMS is a good cautionary tale in regards to advertising >.< |
| 01:07.15 | DrodoEmpire | Other companies would be wise not to copy Hello Games' advertising doctrine- which is to say, they had none |
| 01:07.15 | Wormy_ | But I can still find myself lost in the game for hours at a time |
| 01:07.26 | Wormy_ | yeah |
| 01:07.38 | DrodoEmpire | They didn't outright *lie*, but they were terribly confusing, disorganised, vague, even misleading |
| 01:07.45 | DrodoEmpire | At first glance anyway |
| 01:08.20 | DrodoEmpire | The only reason I know as much as I did/do is because I followed NMS news religiously, and picked up on every little tidbit that made things relatively consistent |
| 01:08.22 | Wormy_ | I sometimes wonder if nobody had heard of No Man's Sky and it started at out as a small indie game, it might have grown in popularity to a particular kind of player. It has had the misfortune of being hyped. |
| 01:08.30 | DrodoEmpire | People shouldn't have to do that |
| 01:08.53 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, and that overhyping lies directly in Hello Games' irresponsible advertising |
| 01:09.09 | DrodoEmpire | They should've been realistic and curbed the hype, and been reasonable |
| 01:09.55 | Wormy_ | Indeed. I think if it had started out like KSP or SE, it'd have much more popular coverage and everyobody would be looking forward to future content, saying correctly how cool NMS's vision is and could be. |
| 01:10.26 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 01:11.26 | Wormy_ | I also followed religiously, and I anticipated before most from the trailers that NMS's content looked pretty shallow. |
| 01:12.36 | Wormy_ | What saddens me is that its so shallow it fails to be even much of a sandbox for creativity or emergent gameplay. That being said one person learned how to get into space with a jetpack |
| 01:13.28 | Wormy_ | However, I've found it helps to play with a bit of imagination on my own part, that's wy I post mini stories with my Steam pictures |
| 01:13.39 | Hachiman | It's like the Spore of the 2010s |
| 01:13.51 | Hachiman | Except lots of people find Spore more entertaining and fulfilling now |
| 01:13.58 | Wormy_ | This game flopped worse than Spore I think |
| 01:14.04 | The_Randomness | yeah, much worse |
| 01:14.33 | Tybusen | Spore has the advantage of being able to make cool shit using it |
| 01:15.02 | Wormy_ | I think Spore achieved really well on the creative aspect, but the final finish was incomplete |
| 01:15.21 | Wormy_ | it needed more depth and stage mixing |
| 01:15.33 | The_Randomness | I agree |
| 01:15.44 | The_Randomness | The gameplay was shallow, but the creative aspect was strong |
| 01:16.39 | Wormy_ | I have read from posts by ex-Maxis developers that there was a shift to developing the creative engine in Spore and focusing on that, than the simulation aspects |
| 01:16.44 | Tybusen | I mean hell, we're a community dedicated to still making cool shit in Spore |
| 01:16.56 | Wormy_ | And one of many |
| 01:18.10 | Tybusen | Given the choice of a good creative engine or a good simulation engine, the creative engine might have served Spore's longevity a little better than the simulation engine |
| 01:18.32 | Wormy_ | I think that's quite right |
| 01:19.08 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 01:19.52 | DrodoEmpire | Honestly I'd buy a Spore II-- I'd also be interested in seeing maybe a more realistic Spore II in its aesthetic and improved simulation stuff on top of the really solid creative stuff |
| 01:20.22 | Wormy_ | And when it comes to creativity, Spore is pretty unmatched by most games and those that are are either online virtual worlds or true sandbox games, and some of them made by Maxis |
| 01:20.38 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 01:21.32 | Tek0516 | I'll back that sentiment. For any failings as a game it's great for its creators. |
| 01:21.54 | Tybusen | If Spore had a good simulation engine, it would have had the longevity of a good game |
| 01:22.01 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:22.05 | Tybusen | But with its good creative engine, it has the longevity of a tool |
| 01:22.06 | Wormy_ | This would be mmy version of Spore 2 http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Stuff#Spore_2.2FFuture_expansions_.28and_possible_ways_to_cheat.29 |
| 01:22.23 | DrodoEmpire | (basically I'd be really happy just to see an intermediate stage between tribal and civ) |
| 01:22.30 | DrodoEmpire | (which is the most glaring gap) |
| 01:22.46 | DrodoEmpire | (and the place with the most severe abstraction) |
| 01:22.59 | Technobliterator | I would like a Spore 2 to happen, but I'm not sure how much faith I have |
| 01:23.25 | DrodoEmpire | Oh it'll never happen |
| 01:23.31 | DrodoEmpire | Make no mistake |
| 01:23.34 | DrodoEmpire | But it'd be nice |
| 01:23.52 | Tek0516 | Maxis is dead and EA is EA. But we can wish. |
| 01:24.17 | DrodoEmpire | That being said, two years from now its announced I'll happily eat my words >.< |
| 01:25.37 | Wormy_ | There was a proposed city stage mentioned during development, where you could build your culture and identity |
| 01:26.09 | Wormy_ | might be hard to gamify though |
| 01:27.04 | DrodoEmpire | Nonsense XD |
| 01:27.11 | DrodoEmpire | Tons of games do that |
| 01:27.37 | Wormy_ | Maybe, you play a lot more them Civ type games than I do |
| 01:27.43 | Tek0516 | Building something with such scope was never easy. Each stage could realistically have been a full game in itself. |
| 01:27.49 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:28.09 | Hachiman | I mean |
| 01:28.12 | Hachiman | Look at Stellaris |
| 01:28.22 | DrodoEmpire | Or EUIV |
| 01:28.25 | DrodoEmpire | Or CKII |
| 01:28.25 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 01:28.36 | DrodoEmpire | Or HoI IV, or Civ <.< |
| 01:28.53 | Wormy_ | Do you actually feel like you are creating a culture in those games or following some developer defined paths? |
| 01:29.14 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm, I think a grand strategy based around moulding a cultural identity would be a very unique idea |
| 01:29.24 | DrodoEmpire | As opposed to sheer domination |
| 01:32.32 | Wormy_ | I'd like a game like SimEarth or SimLife to be made again, these games had nigh-endless outcomes and complexity even though they are old and now ugly.# |
| 01:32.59 | Wormy_ | They're not even true games really |
| 01:33.44 | Tek0516 | I'd had a virtual console version SimEarth on the Wii but it was complex and I was too young to understand it back them. XD |
| 01:34.19 | Wormy_ | Used to play it when I was 7 :P |
| 01:35.04 | Wormy_ | I got SimLife to work on my 2008 Windows Vista, but the game wouldn't save |
| 01:36.24 | Wormy_ | Will Wright called them software toys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-game |
| 01:36.42 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 01:36.53 | DrodoEmpire | I used to play AoEII and Starcraft when I was little |
| 01:37.02 | DrodoEmpire | The Zerg always grossed me out <.< |
| 01:39.01 | Tek0516 | https://archive.org/details/msdos_SimEarth_-_The_Living_Planet_1990 There's actually a working emulator of SimEarth in the Internet Archive. XD |
| 01:39.27 | DrodoEmpire | Nice lol |
| 01:41.46 | Wormy_ | THANK YOU |
| 01:44.06 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: Same with SimLife too apparently |
| 01:44.10 | Tek0516 | https://archive.org/details/msdos_SimLife_1992 |
| 01:44.20 | Wormy_ | brilliant |
| 01:44.33 | Wormy_ | I wonder if SimSafari and SimIsland are also available |
| 01:44.38 | Tek0516 | It appears to be stream only, but still |
| 02:11.09 | Wormy_ | Will Wright's TED talk on Spore https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3NA-aKpgFk |
| 02:13.03 | Tek0516 | I'll check that out later |
| 02:36.35 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 02:38.04 | The_Randomness | boop |
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| 04:28.27 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
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| 10:50.24 | NeonPanda | hi all |
| 10:50.56 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 10:52.34 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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| 11:01.12 | Monet | Hello |
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| 11:13.26 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 11:14.53 | Imperios | Hi |
| 11:14.56 | Imperios | https://2ch.hk/po/src/18779483/14766152943420.jpg |
| 11:15.47 | OluapPlayer | I hit level 60 last night |
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| 11:43.43 | Monet | Hi |
| 11:43.50 | Monet | Oluap: Congratz |
| 11:43.51 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Congrats |
| 11:43.55 | Imperios | Time to fly |
| 11:44.08 | Imperios | Until 85 that is, then you won't fly for a LOONG time again |
| 11:44.22 | OluapPlayer | I got a griffon but I can't fly yet |
| 11:44.37 | OluapPlayer | In Azeroth at least. I went to Outland and I can apparently fly there |
| 11:45.22 | Imperios | Train the Flight Master's License |
| 11:45.32 | OluapPlayer | I don't have the gold for that |
| 11:45.35 | Imperios | Ah |
| 11:46.21 | Imperios | Do you like Outland? |
| 11:46.43 | OluapPlayer | I didn't do anything there yet, I arrived then went to bed |
| 11:47.17 | OluapPlayer | I feel like I'm missing content by not doing instances |
| 11:47.59 | Imperios | You'd feel the same if you did them |
| 11:48.19 | Imperios | Usually when you do instances, you have to skim through a lot of zones |
| 11:48.25 | Imperios | Whhen questing |
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| 13:03.35 | Monet | Did I spend all this time with no history page for Minos'Drakon? |
| 13:03.45 | Monet | history section* |
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| 14:04.15 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 14:08.26 | Monet | hi |
| 14:10.13 | Wormy_ | Thinking of creating a new Youtube channel |
| 14:10.24 | Wormy_ | Stuck at thinking of a name |
| 14:19.07 | Monet | What's the channel's focus? |
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| 14:20.57 | Wormy_ | My simulation and visualisation projects really |
| 14:21.16 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:21.51 | Wormy_ | I'm interested in Agent Based Modelling, which uses emergence. How does "The Emergentist" sound? |
| 14:27.26 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:27.35 | Wormy_ | Trouble is I don't know what to call it |
| 14:31.44 | Wormy_ | I suppose this Youtuber does https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nbTrPwQudo |
| 14:32.09 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:57.45 | Hachiman | Had to restart browser |
| 15:00.07 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/TbrkCXn.png |
| 15:00.25 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: http://i.imgur.com/k04txRf.jpg |
| 15:00.43 | Hachiman | hur |
| 15:00.44 | OluapPlayer | wololo |
| 15:17.52 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: Some Horde people must've come here because some quest giving NPCs died |
| 15:18.04 | OluapPlayer | There's a growing pile of people waiting for them to respawn |
| 15:18.07 | OluapPlayer | Me included |
| 15:19.38 | OluapPlayer | Now it's back, that took a while |
| 15:20.09 | Imperios | Are you in Outland? |
| 15:20.13 | Imperios | Yeah it's a pretty hostile place |
| 15:20.24 | OluapPlayer | Yeah |
| 15:20.52 | OluapPlayer | The quests are giving gold as reward now, gud |
| 15:21.03 | OluapPlayer | Also is there any way for me to go to Kalimdor? |
| 15:21.30 | Charles_Bot | Shatt has a few portals for that |
| 15:21.47 | Charles_Bot | There's also a few boats from the Eastern Kingdoms |
| 15:22.02 | Monet | Stormwind primarily |
| 15:22.05 | OluapPlayer | I went on a boat but it took me to Northrend |
| 15:22.05 | Charles_Bot | One in Menethil Harbor which goes to Southshore |
| 15:23.13 | Charles_Bot | Storm wind also has a boat, it's the southernmost pier |
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| 15:23.58 | OluapPlayer | Right |
| 15:24.00 | OluapPlayer | Hi dino] |
| 15:25.40 | dino_ | hi :D! |
| 15:25.43 | dino_ | Howz all doing@ |
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| 15:42.38 | OluapPlayer | Now I saw a blood elf guy show up and kill a bunch of NPCs before dying himself |
| 15:42.57 | OluapPlayer | Sounds like the type of guy who has a brooding backstory involving neglecting parents |
| 15:46.04 | Monet | Lol |
| 15:46.58 | dino_ | lol |
| 15:47.04 | dino_ | playing Legion Oluap |
| 15:47.05 | dino_ | ? |
| 15:47.28 | dino_ | are a lot of sporewikipeople playing Legion? |
| 15:48.12 | DrodoEmpire | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cu5nQoDWAAArM9A.jpg:large me irl |
| 15:48.57 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: Actually, Scooby slows down so he won't leave Shaggy behind |
| 15:50.46 | DrodoEmpire | Aw >: |
| 15:50.54 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Look at how the boats appear |
| 15:51.02 | Imperios | boats look like ven |
| 15:51.03 | Imperios | even |
| 15:51.22 | Imperios | Ships that go to Northrend look like icebreakers |
| 15:57.27 | OluapPlayer | dino_: Yeah I got Legion |
| 15:58.00 | dino_ | @oluap: Neat! Far already? I play it as well, love this expansion better than warlords |
| 15:58.03 | dino_ | though that was nice as well |
| 15:59.09 | OluapPlayer | I'm level 61 |
| 15:59.11 | OluapPlayer | Currently at Outland |
| 16:00.09 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: I don't quite get the premise of BC. Like, why are we going to Outland exactly? |
| 16:00.22 | Imperios | Legion + Illidari |
| 16:00.38 | Imperios | Right before BC the portal reopened and the Legion used it to attack Azeroth |
| 16:00.55 | Imperios | Then we kind of go there and estabilish ourselves |
| 16:01.33 | OluapPlayer | Is that the reason there's a base right outside the Dark Portal? |
| 16:02.48 | Imperios | Aye |
| 16:03.23 | OluapPlayer | I'd probably have made more sense if you played it when the expansion came out |
| 16:04.25 | OluapPlayer | It'd* |
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| 16:06.03 | Charles_Murray | Imperios : So I came across this on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/heraldry/comments/57nj9w/city_state_of_halifaxia/ |
| 16:08.29 | Imperios | That's me |
| 16:08.49 | Imperios | I'm visiting r/heraldry |
| 16:10.23 | Tek0516 | So is Charles_Murray it seems. :P |
| 16:11.10 | Charles_Murray | Yeah, I follow that subreddit ;) |
| 16:11.16 | Charles_Murray | DrodoEmpire btw |
| 16:12.01 | DrodoEmpire | Oh huh |
| 16:12.41 | DrodoEmpire | "What a mess." - savage |
| 16:14.27 | Imperios | Yeah I saw that |
| 16:14.54 | dino_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:15.15 | dino_ | yeah and some remained there afterthe initial invasion as well |
| 16:15.35 | dino_ | I am currently in suramar, which is very nice as well, what class do you play ? I am a paladin |
| 16:15.54 | OluapPlayer | I'm warrior |
| 16:16.59 | Imperios | dino_: What server are you on? |
| 16:17.43 | Imperios | Charles_Murray: https://www.reddit.com/r/heraldry/comments/57s386/coat_of_arms_of_belarus_redesign/ Funny thing is, I was in the process of making a post for this subreddit when you pinged me |
| 16:17.44 | dino_ | Frostmane, |
| 16:17.55 | dino_ | you play as well? Perhaps we can add each other on battlenet! |
| 16:18.09 | dino_ | @Oluap: Neat a warrior! |
| 16:18.19 | Imperios | I do but on Argent Dawn and not atm |
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| 16:18.21 | Imperios | Unfortunately |
| 16:19.12 | dino_ | oh ok |
| 16:24.06 | Imperios | Suramar is the shit |
| 16:24.08 | Imperios | Especially the city |
| 16:25.35 | Tek0516 | I really should do work on some of my RP ideas. I just always get stuck when trying to write characters. >.< |
| 16:30.24 | Tek0516 | Like for this one I have a couple sections of background, paragraph of infodump at the start of Chapter 1, and then I just get stuck. >.< |
| 16:33.14 | dino_ | yeah I hope to get into the dungeons there soon! |
| 16:33.29 | dino_ | though the city is though s ometimes haha |
| 16:45.58 | dino_ | test |
| 16:56.34 | OluapPlayer | Well I've used Group Finder |
| 16:56.45 | OluapPlayer | As I expected no one said a single word through the whole instance |
| 16:56.58 | Monet | Yeah |
| 16:57.08 | Monet | That's how pretty-much all of them will go |
| 16:57.33 | dino_ | oh ok |
| 16:57.51 | OluapPlayer | That's kinda bad |
| 16:57.57 | OluapPlayer | Still I got a new weapon out of it |
| 16:58.30 | OluapPlayer | which checking again is actually inferior to what I already have |
| 16:58.31 | Monet | Most groups go in with the expectation you know what to do. |
| 16:58.40 | OluapPlayer | Eh at least I can sell it for 5 gol |
| 16:58.41 | OluapPlayer | d |
| 16:59.04 | OluapPlayer | Well nothing wen wrong, in fact we stomped the whole place |
| 16:59.16 | OluapPlayer | It just felt soulless |
| 16:59.41 | dino_ | oh great! Gonna check thatout |
| 17:00.51 | OluapPlayer | It was Blackrock Depths in case you're curious |
| 17:02.21 | OluapPlayer | I ought to find a guild that puts up with noobies who never instanced |
| 17:02.30 | Monet | You might be able to sell it for more on the auction house |
| 17:03.11 | Tek0516 | Navigating this building on weekends feels like navigating a dungeon. >.< Maze of rooms, many locked doors blocking my path, wandering around it trying to find my destination. :P |
| 17:03.51 | dino_ | oh neat, hmm well I am part of a two man guild with a friend that when we have time |
| 17:04.05 | dino_ | often I just join the group finder becaue I don't want to be forced to do raiding or so |
| 17:04.10 | Hachiman | Consider yourself lucky that your sister filled your bedroom with loot Tek |
| 17:04.21 | dino_ | I don't have much time to plan that during the weeks cause of work etc |
| 17:04.26 | OluapPlayer | Isn't the auction house mostly used by 110s |
| 17:04.32 | OluapPlayer | They're not gonna need this |
| 17:04.44 | dino_ | if you have a higher level you can sometime sdo a raid or dungeon and get easy acess to higher armor |
| 17:04.45 | Imperios | They may use it for disenchanting |
| 17:04.48 | Imperios | Actually wait |
| 17:04.54 | dino_ | are you also at frostmane Oluap? |
| 17:05.05 | OluapPlayer | I'm at Quel'Thalas |
| 17:05.05 | Imperios | Monet: Dungeon weapons are BoP, OP can't sell them |
| 17:05.16 | Monet | oh |
| 17:05.19 | dino_ | anyway, my battle tag is dinoman82 as well, what a conincedence :D |
| 17:05.27 | dino_ | ah ok |
| 17:05.51 | OluapPlayer | What's your number dino? |
| 17:05.56 | dino_ | number? |
| 17:06.06 | Hachiman | Yeah, each battle tag has a numbe |
| 17:06.07 | dino_ | #2156 |
| 17:06.08 | Hachiman | number |
| 17:07.01 | OluapPlayer | Sent you a friend invite |
| 17:07.24 | dino_ | Great! do you also play heroes of the storm once in while |
| 17:07.24 | dino_ | ? |
| 17:07.40 | OluapPlayer | Never played that |
| 17:07.58 | dino_ | is fun as well |
| 17:08.21 | dino_ | anyway, think I am gonna do some dungeon or do you need help? |
| 17:08.38 | OluapPlayer | I'm not dungeoning atm |
| 17:08.45 | OluapPlayer | Got some quests to do |
| 17:09.55 | Hachiman | maek emryredin's paeg fag |
| 17:10.47 | dino_ | ok good luck! |
| 17:10.53 | dino_ | Gonna see if I can do one perhaps in suramar |
| 17:28.55 | Technobliterator | I like how last Borealis War was delayed by me being addicted to Dota |
| 17:29.03 | Technobliterator | and this Borealis War may be delayed by Oluap being addicted to WoW |
| 17:29.04 | Technobliterator | :V |
| 17:41.08 | OluapPlayer | It's delayed by you and Xho not getting the next section done |
| 17:45.03 | Technobliterator | To be fair, I don't really know what I'm meant to do in the enxt section |
| 17:45.09 | Technobliterator | far as I can tell, it's just Xho's job |
| 17:45.21 | Hachiman | Imperios: So, I just realised that a skilled enough geomancer could probably manipulate the iron in an individual's blood |
| 17:45.31 | Hachiman | And use it against them somehow |
| 17:46.01 | Imperios | Toph the Bloodbender |
| 17:47.40 | Hachiman | I get reminded because in a manga I'm reading, there's a character with a special ability to turn the iron in a person's blood into things like razor blades |
| 17:49.53 | OluapPlayer | That seems a bit extreme, we already have blood magic for manipulating blood |
| 17:50.25 | Hachiman | It's not actually manipulating blood |
| 17:50.30 | Hachiman | As in, the liquid substance |
| 17:50.40 | Hachiman | It's manipulating the actual iron in a person's blood |
| 17:51.38 | OluapPlayer | My point stands |
| 17:52.03 | Hachiman | Iron isn't a bodily fluid |
| 17:52.39 | Monet | Most blood-iron is as a component in the protein haemoglobin. |
| 17:55.07 | Imperios | Monet has a point here actually |
| 17:55.16 | Hachiman | If both geomancers and hydromancers can manipulate oil, I don't see why geomancers cannot have limited manipulation of the iron found in blood |
| 17:55.31 | Imperios | Thing is that iron is atomic rather than molecular |
| 17:55.52 | Imperios | In blood that is |
| 17:56.01 | Imperios | By that logic geomancers can also control corn |
| 17:56.08 | Hachiman | Hm true |
| 17:57.30 | OluapPlayer | The whole idea sounds ridiculous to me |
| 17:57.53 | Hachiman | How so? |
| 17:58.20 | OluapPlayer | It's just an overcomplicated way for earth mages to manipulate blood |
| 17:58.41 | Hachiman | It's not controlling blood - just a very specific component of blood |
| 17:59.01 | Monet | This is sounding like technicalities. |
| 17:59.21 | Hachiman | Anyway I thought it was an interesting idea although Imp and Monet's logic rings true |
| 18:02.51 | Monet | This might be rare from me but this is going into modern chemistry. |
| 18:03.16 | Monet | As I understand it, hydromancers and geomancers can manipulate oil because oil is a liquid of the earth. |
| 18:04.51 | Monet | But if we use modern chemistry, crude oil, or most oils, lack the presence with water. |
| 18:16.26 | Wormy_ | Hachiman, Monet, Technobliterator: Might watch this later http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04b183c |
| 18:19.34 | Monet | almost forgot about that |
| 18:26.14 | Hachiman | Also |
| 18:26.30 | Hachiman | I often misread haemoglobin as haemogoblin |
| 18:26.34 | Hachiman | Blood goblins |
| 18:28.56 | Wormy_ | I like this concept |
| 18:30.21 | Wormy_ | I remember in Discworld it was known that behind every natural phenomenon was a magical entity of some-kind. One radical naturalist tried to prove otherwise by building a camera, but a goblin was revieled inside the apparatus |
| 18:30.36 | Wormy_ | That's based on some old ideas from history |
| 18:30.59 | Wormy_ | So it makes me think not just physics or chemistry, but what about biology? |
| 18:32.12 | Wormy_ | Maybe the body could spontaneously form homunculi? |
| 18:33.10 | DrodoEmpire | HughMungusuli |
| 18:33.11 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 18:33.47 | Wormy_ | stahp meming everything |
| 18:35.34 | Monet | Lol |
| 18:36.11 | Wormy_ | brb |
| 18:38.54 | Monet | https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2c0a4fc16c59c8b787da4c9d8bd5b0ec-c?convert_to_webp=true all I can think of is "that must have taken a lot of sound studio time" |
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| 18:39.30 | Wormy_ | Fuck I heard the squeeky noise of a clown outside my house >_< |
| 18:41.22 | Tek0516 | O.o |
| 18:41.29 | Tek0516 | RIP Wormy_ |
| 18:41.57 | Wormy_ | Don't worry, locking myself in the panic room |
| 18:43.10 | Wormy_ | Ready for the clownpocalypse http://www.pdpprojects.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Bespoke-Safe-Room.jpg |
| 18:43.57 | Wormy_ | http://www.miningafricaonline.co.za/Safe_Room1.JPG# |
| 18:44.19 | Wormy_ | >mining Africa, hm |
| 18:49.35 | Imperios | Monet: https://drawception.com/game/NRWzxCTrZF/donald-trunk/ |
| 18:50.24 | Monet | Hm? |
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| 18:50.27 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 18:50.49 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
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| 18:57.41 | Hachiman | Man I'm glad I haven't seen that nigger faggot Xho on today |
| 18:57.43 | Hachiman | Oh hi Xho |
| 18:57.56 | Xho | 0/10 not even correct ethnicity |
| 19:00.03 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
| 19:00.59 | Xho | Have we lost Oluap to World of Warcraft |
| 19:01.34 | Hachiman | Yes |
| 19:01.50 | Xho | Well this is good |
| 19:01.52 | Xho | We got fiction to do |
| 19:02.11 | Monet | It hath claimed his soul |
| 19:02.11 | Hachiman | In fact |
| 19:02.25 | Hachiman | He said he's gonna give up on Sporewiki and move to the WoW wiki |
| 19:02.44 | Xho | Hm |
| 19:02.46 | Xho | Now that I doubt |
| 19:02.50 | Hachiman | And he's cancelling all fiction he's currently running so he can spend all of his time playing without anything on his conscience |
| 19:03.47 | Xho | I doubt he'd be that much of an asshole to do that |
| 19:04.02 | Monet | This does sound quite rash. |
| 19:04.53 | DrodoEmpire | I think you're joking Hachi :o |
| 19:04.57 | DrodoEmpire | I hope so anywho |
| 19:05.31 | Xho | It's a pretty poor joke |
| 19:06.22 | Imperios | He's joking |
| 19:06.29 | Imperios | Nobody browses WoWWiki |
| 19:06.44 | Imperios | And I mean NOBODY |
| 19:07.00 | Xho | I did last week out of curiosity over the stuff he was watching |
| 19:07.03 | Xho | No info whatsoever |
| 19:07.20 | Hachiman | By the way, I'm kidding; Oluap wouldn't do that |
| 19:07.32 | DrodoEmpire | phew <.< |
| 19:07.33 | Xho | sticks a hook up Hachiman's ass |
| 19:07.37 | Hachiman | Instead, I'm actually cancelling all of my fiction to spend all my time on WoW |
| 19:07.39 | Xho | bad joke start sunday over again |
| 19:07.43 | Hachiman | See you on Argent Dawn fuckers |
| 19:07.43 | DrodoEmpire | ey laymo |
| 19:08.00 | Xho | Hm |
| 19:08.08 | Xho | I need to get fiction kicked up again tho |
| 19:08.19 | Xho | Voidwalker, Eschaton, Kicath stuff |
| 19:08.20 | DrodoEmpire | do voidwalker |
| 19:08.23 | DrodoEmpire | DO IT |
| 19:08.26 | Xho | 2much shit and my work life is a mess |
| 19:08.30 | DrodoEmpire | >: |
| 19:08.33 | Hachiman | do eschaton |
| 19:08.33 | Imperios | Yeah do voidwalker conflict |
| 19:08.38 | Hachiman | voidwalker a shit |
| 19:08.41 | Imperios | Voidwalkers are in WoW |
| 19:08.48 | Xho | echs externally |
| 19:08.51 | Hachiman | And WoW took Oluap from us |
| 19:08.55 | Hachiman | Do Eschaton hur |
| 19:09.11 | Imperios | Xho: https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/hearthstone.gamepedia.com/thumb/6/60/Voidwalker_(art).jpg/400px-Voidwalker_(art).jpg?version=ba4c919006c3f28556b7ddbefd5e7d6f |
| 19:09.19 | Imperios | Kek, WoW took me years ago |
| 19:09.32 | Imperios | Why do you think I wasn't participating in late War of Ages |
| 19:09.49 | Xho | Mali'Nar suddenly starts to make more sense |
| 19:10.59 | Imperios | Mali'Nar are a bit Old God-y yes |
| 19:11.09 | Imperios | Actually |
| 19:11.30 | Imperios | Mali'Nar's appearance was inspired by voidwalkers and their powers by the Old Gods |
| 19:11.41 | Xho | c |
| 19:11.45 | Imperios | And in 2016, voidwalkers and Old Gods were estabilished to be related |
| 19:11.50 | Imperios | Blizz stole my idea |
| 19:13.02 | Xho | Imperios predicted the future |
| 19:13.08 | Xho | This shit is what you get for being on SporeWiki |
| 19:13.33 | Hachiman | More like Metzen is predictable |
| 19:13.39 | Hachiman | And when he's not predictable, he's retarded |
| 19:13.51 | Xho | wut dat |
| 19:13.52 | Hachiman | Which is how Warlords of Draenor came about |
| 19:14.01 | Hachiman | Metzen is the writer for WoW's setting and story |
| 19:14.06 | Xho | right |
| 19:14.07 | Monet | Metzen is Blizzard's creative chief. |
| 19:14.18 | Xho | Wormy_: Went down to a craft ale bar in Southampton today, had some nice choices on |
| 19:14.28 | Monet | All the storyline's Thrall masterbation is his doing. |
| 19:15.06 | Hachiman | *orc masturbation |
| 19:16.06 | Monet | He has confessed the Horde is his favourite side. |
| 19:16.18 | Hachiman | They should hire more writers |
| 19:16.19 | Hachiman | Like me |
| 19:16.22 | Hachiman | Orcs fucking die |
| 19:16.25 | Hachiman | And more elf wank |
| 19:16.41 | Hachiman | Never enough night elves |
| 19:16.50 | Hachiman | And fuck the Blood Elves who cares about them |
| 19:17.22 | Monet | "fuck the blood elves" Yeah they've...kind-of been insignificant for most of their existence. |
| 19:18.53 | Monet | Also the Horde has lost like two warcheifs now. |
| 19:19.47 | Monet | Varian only died in Legion but his replacement was quite smooth. |
| 19:22.14 | Xho | Hachiman: So my sister has a friend who is a friend of Misha Mansoor |
| 19:22.15 | Xho | I wtf'd |
| 19:23.26 | Imperios | Hachiman: Metzen is no more |
| 19:23.30 | Imperios | Metzen left Blizzard |
| 19:23.38 | Imperios | The Orcocracy is over |
| 19:23.43 | Imperios | Orcarchy |
| 19:24.04 | Xho | Orcorcorc |
| 19:26.41 | Hachiman | Xho: What the fuck |
| 19:27.35 | Xho | wtf indeed |
| 19:28.35 | Tek0516 | Ugh. It's almost 20°C and the building has its heaters going at full power. >.< |
| 19:29.19 | Xho | That being said I have a few friends who are mutual with famous musicians mainly because of their trade |
| 19:29.29 | Xho | Either they're musicians themselves or photographers |
| 19:38.55 | Monet | http://www3.forbes.com/leadership/the-most-overrated-jobs-of-2016/9/ Oooh dat nasty |
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| 19:39.17 | Xho | $37000 won't get you shit either |
| 19:39.19 | Xho | wapotr |
| 19:39.22 | Cyrannian | Hai |
| 19:39.48 | Monet | Xho: $37,000/year and the market is predicted to shrink by an 11th. |
| 19:39.54 | Xho | ouch |
| 19:41.51 | Monet | Forbes also says authors have an annual median salary of $60,520 dollars but the general reaction to writers hearing "author" and "rich" in the same sentence tend to burst out in hysterical laughter. |
| 19:42.05 | Wormy_ | Saying photographers are an overpayed job is a disgusting lie |
| 19:42.18 | Monet | Wormy_: Overrated, not overpaid. |
| 19:43.49 | Xho | Good authors I guess |
| 19:44.02 | Xho | $60,520 here is just a little over workable |
| 19:44.12 | Xho | Living wage here is like £48,000 or something |
| 19:44.18 | Wormy_ | fair enough |
| 19:44.41 | Xho | Most Brits earn around £25,000 |
| 19:44.48 | Xho | So that's our employment system in a nutshell |
| 19:44.57 | Wormy_ | Photography is very popular among students but very hard to get a descent job in |
| 19:45.55 | Wormy_ | Then again those that do have successful businesses in say, wedding photography often over-price for what they are actually giving |
| 19:46.15 | Xho | descent job |
| 19:46.18 | Xho | Sounds about right |
| 19:46.32 | Monet | I think the "over-rated" idea (which might be clickbait) is these jobs tend ot be a lot less exciting than people think |
| 19:47.42 | Wormy_ | You have to be comitted and constantly open to potential photographs as a photographer, a lot more than what many people are prepared for |
| 19:48.09 | Wormy_ | cameras are expensive and often heavy to haul around all day, and there's always the new big camera |
| 19:48.39 | Monet | According to careercast.com, the role of a broadcaster is fairly high-stress |
| 19:49.09 | Wormy_ | There's a lot of philosophy in good photographs as well |
| 19:51.00 | dino_ | hi |
| 19:51.08 | Wormy_ | Xho: Sounds good, what beers did you have? |
| 19:51.23 | Wormy_ | I went for a pub run friday night, a pub crawl but with running involved |
| 19:51.30 | Xho | I believe they were called Magic Pumpkin and Festbier |
| 19:51.51 | Wormy_ | I'll have to look out for those |
| 19:51.56 | dino_ | Holy moly, just did Court of Stars in Legion, crazy dungeon |
| 19:51.59 | Monet | For a minute there I read that as Fassbender. |
| 19:52.04 | Wormy_ | I guess you are getting into beer lately? |
| 19:52.42 | Monet | dino_: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0boZRQlU0tE/maxresdefault.jpg it looks very pretty |
| 19:53.02 | Wormy_ | "it finishes similar to the way we finish summer: with just a hint of bitternes" https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/96/129357/ |
| 19:53.31 | dino_ | Yeah a stunning level with a nice story in it as well, though crazy difficult as well. Luckily done it, around 300 reputation before getting exalted with the dear Nightfallen! |
| 19:53.37 | dino_ | but great dungeon |
| 19:53.49 | dino_ | only need to do the Arcway and then the two raids, though not really a fan of raids. |
| 19:54.03 | dino_ | way to much lag hahaha |
| 19:54.03 | Wormy_ | brb |
| 19:54.44 | Xho | Hachiman: See if I can be arsed enough to learn one of Meshuggah's new tracks |
| 19:54.48 | Xho | I'm thinking Clockworks |
| 19:54.54 | Hachiman | Fucking good luck |
| 19:54.58 | dino_ | @Monet: My new heroine of WoW: http://wow.gamepedia.com/File:First_Arcanist_Thalyssra.jpg |
| 19:55.11 | Hachiman | dino_ She looks hot |
| 19:55.20 | Monet | Dem eyebrows. |
| 19:55.28 | Xho | k den |
| 19:55.49 | dino_ | Yeah perhaps the Quadrants should get their own Nightborn as well haha |
| 19:58.18 | Monet | Well from a glance I get the impression the Nightborne are what the Night Elves would have become had they not stopped using arcane magic. |
| 19:59.44 | dino_ | I think so as well, though I believe it was because they didn't see any sunlight and food nutritions as well |
| 20:00.43 | Monet | I was about to say. |
| 20:01.08 | Imperios | Thalyssra is <3 |
| 20:01.28 | Monet | City-states are frequently reliant on outside sources of food. Suramar would have starved long ago were it not for the Highborn there becoming night-well-energy-eaters. |
| 20:01.47 | Imperios | Hachiman: BTW that's her flashback appearance, by the time of the game she looks like this |
| 20:01.55 | Imperios | Hachiman: https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/wow.gamepedia.com/0/09/Thalyssra.jpg?version=72fcd9d128188dcc452441a6acc6da5e |
| 20:02.08 | Hachiman | Ah |
| 20:02.16 | Hachiman | Well, I'm not into anorexia, so |
| 20:02.22 | dino_ | yeah her flashback looks great. She has rather humor as well, though who knows perhaps she gets back into sarumar to regain her former appearance |
| 20:02.42 | dino_ | I think after the Arcway and the Court of Stars teh assault on Sarumar will start, who knows what will happen. |
| 20:03.25 | Imperios | I heard she will fix herself then |
| 20:03.26 | Monet | Arcwine sounds like ambrosia. |
| 20:03.35 | Imperios | Hachiman DrodoEmpire: https://i.redditmedia.com/WfXsA6A_2mse-m52avj5nICiD9S8q-TgOW6uvgw-1ZI.jpg?w=800&s=374df5343da427e852aac31e3d11d21d Flag of the Alt Right |
| 20:04.02 | DrodoEmpire | praise kek |
| 20:04.43 | Monet | It's somewhat disturbing how the only elves to not suffer some addiction to magical energy are the ones who swore off it long ago. |
| 20:06.15 | dino_ | oh that would be nice |
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| 20:06.39 | Imperios | Well even NEs feed on the magic of the World Tree |
| 20:07.26 | Wormy_ | Ooh KSP is on a Steam sale, but I just paid a huge chunk of my Masters fees and want to feel stingey now |
| 20:08.05 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 20:17.32 | Monet | I suppose there's some logic behind addiction and dependance |
| 20:17.49 | Monet | It was the energies of the well of eternity that transformed a clan of trolls into the first elves. |
| 20:20.42 | Xho | Hachiman: Well at least Born in Dissonance is coming along |
| 20:28.44 | dino_ | see ya guys, till next time! |
| 20:35.31 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 20:37.25 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: You were positive for extreme doses of hallucinogens. None of this is real. |
| 20:38.01 | DrodoEmpire | >: |
| 20:39.25 | Tek0516 | Spore is the name of the drug, not a game. There is no wiki. I am just a manifestation of your hallicinating subconscious. |
| 20:39.49 | DrodoEmpire | stahp |
| 20:40.56 | Imperios | Monet: BTW as for the troll-elf connection, I kind of like the revelation that Loa and Ancients are the same kind of beings |
| 20:41.34 | Imperios | Essentially, the animal gods that night elf worship are just their loa |
| 20:43.23 | Monet | Right |
| 20:43.46 | Monet | Very interesting |
| 20:48.50 | Monet | You're making me tempted to get Legion but it's still pricey fo me atm. |
| 20:59.11 | Wormy_ | I love this jacket http://imgur.com/gallery/qeE3pwd |
| 21:00.01 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/fXsNQ |
| 21:07.17 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: well that second one is horrifying |
| 21:08.52 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/g9FHt |
| 21:09.06 | Tek0516 | ... |
| 21:09.53 | Wormy_ | I'm on that part of the internet now |
| 21:49.49 | Monet | Huh...So according to this Adam Curtis documentary, the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Series was inspired by a Russian/Soviet series of novels that criticised the acceptance of how Soviet leaders were saying one thing but reality was very different. |
| 21:50.47 | Xho | CHEEKI BREEKI |
| 21:55.44 | Hachiman | I mean |
| 21:55.52 | Hachiman | That sounds a fair bit like S.T.A.L.K.E.R |
| 21:56.51 | Xho | CHEEKI BREEKI |
| 21:57.54 | Imperios | Monet: Piknik na Obochine |
| 21:58.13 | Imperios | It was one of the themes but by far not the only one, and in actuality STALKER has very little to do with the novel itself |
| 21:58.28 | Monet | Well I said inspiration |
| 21:58.39 | Imperios | The novel you think about was more sci-fi than postapocalyptic |
| 21:58.40 | Xho | http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/758/244/0fd.jpg |
| 21:59.14 | Imperios | It had aliens leaving mysterious artifacts to humans |
| 21:59.20 | Monet | Well afaik the world in the Stalker games is pretty normal outside the Chernobyl quarantine zone. |
| 21:59.48 | Imperios | The idea of the Zone's mysterious properties and artifacts is from the novel I believe |
| 22:00.10 | Monet | Its just the Zone that's a post-apocalyptic shithole I think. |
| 22:00.33 | Hachiman | Imagine a place like that on Koldenwelt |
| 22:01.20 | Hachiman | I know that Wormy intended for the Magellanic clouds to be like that, where timespace fuckery and constant breaking of the known laws of physics happen |
| 22:02.04 | Xho | Kinmo - ABSOLUTELY HARAM |
| 22:02.17 | Xho | Makes me wonder now what the phoenix word for forbidden is |
| 22:02.54 | Monet | A lot of science fiction is a critique on the present |
| 22:03.07 | Xho | And for post-apocalyptic shit hole well we have Abyssus |
| 22:03.23 | Xho | Although that's more like currently-apocalypticating shit hole |
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| 22:03.46 | Monet | Some go for "what we might be", others - more commonly - use the medium of writing to challenge events or opinions at the time they were written. |
| 22:05.10 | Imperios | Xho: More "weird" than "evil" |
| 22:05.20 | Xho | ah |
| 22:05.23 | Xho | ok then no place |
| 22:05.50 | Xho | As for Abyssus, post-Eschaton all of the evil influence is drowned out and life slowly starts returning to the region |
| 22:05.58 | Xho | Not before a cold as fuck winter though |
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| 22:07.43 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 22:08.14 | Xho | hi |
| 22:08.38 | Xho | For the Abyssus winter the story will mostly be how the Adravaelic Empire splits into two main factions |
| 22:09.14 | Xho | Hopefully calling the fiction 'Winter of Discontent' because Shakespear |
| 22:09.15 | Xho | e |
| 22:09.48 | Tek0516 | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/MolKdwyX/20161016_180810.jpg |
| 22:10.02 | Monet | The book Impy mentioned was inspired from the strange paradox going on in Russia at the time: Leaders were reporting a booming economy wher everyone was prospering while everyone who watched were starving and fighting for food. |
| 22:10.04 | Tek0516 | Saw this a moment ago |
| 22:11.07 | Imperios | well |
| 22:11.10 | Imperios | Not FIGHTING for food |
| 22:11.23 | Imperios | There was just a pretty terrible deficit in almost all goods |
| 22:11.43 | DrodoEmpire | Waiting in long queues, yeah, but not shooting eachother over a loaf of bread >.< |
| 22:11.47 | Monet | Food on shelves was scarce. |
| 22:12.44 | Monet | Imperios can you confirm the documentary mentions that the crux of the inspiration was despite the fact the leaders were lying, peope lwent with it. |
| 22:13.12 | Imperios | The shooting came AFTER the leaders left |
| 22:13.23 | Imperios | I am not sure actually |
| 22:13.35 | Imperios | Like I have never heard of that theme in the novel |
| 22:13.40 | Monet | They were starving but there was no mass rioring/protest |
| 22:14.26 | Imperios | But the Strugatskies did some anti-government novels like Habitable Island so it's possible |
| 22:15.03 | Monet | No calls for the ivory-tower elite leaders to get out of office and come to reality like what happens today |
| 22:16.23 | Imperios | More like retirement home elite leaders |
| 22:17.04 | Imperios | Hachiman: Actually wait, there's the Kalisearan-dominated part of the Outworld |
| 22:17.17 | Hachiman | That's Outworld |
| 22:17.19 | Hachiman | Not Koldenwelt |
| 22:17.25 | Imperios | Well yeah |
| 22:17.59 | Imperios | But the main theme I believe was the responsibility of power |
| 22:19.30 | Monet | I see |
| 22:19.42 | Xho | >ivory tower meshuggah vibes oncoming |
| 22:19.45 | Imperios | And how the alien artifacts are meant to be handled |
| 22:20.48 | Monet | I recall being told that when Jean Beaudrillard, when he saw the Matrix, accused the Wachowskis of completely butchering his essay "Simulacra and simulation" |
| 22:21.16 | Imperios | Huh, the nerve |
| 22:21.26 | Imperios | Their inspirations were Gnosticism and Plato's Cave |
| 22:21.40 | Xho | "back when I was your age the Wachowskis were brothers not sisters" |
| 22:22.05 | Monet | Oh the Wachowskis did cite Simulation and Simulacra as one of their inspirations |
| 22:22.37 | Monet | The desert of the real, and "what you know isn't real" |
| 22:26.40 | Monet | But looking at their works, the Wachowskis' MO appears to be "take a load of inspirations, mash them up and make the metaphorical into the literal" |
| 22:27.43 | Monet | I recall reading this guy from Jupiter Ascending http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/jupiter-elephant.jpg was inspired by Ganesh. |
| 22:28.59 | Xho | They went a bit loopy after they did the Matrix |
| 22:29.16 | Xho | The first Matrix film is still one of the best films ever |
| 22:29.24 | Monet | Yeah. |
| 22:29.44 | Monet | I suppose one could compare each of their works to a huge bowl of mixed nuts. |
| 22:30.54 | Monet | Many, many varied sources but no real organisation or coherence to them. |
| 22:31.08 | Imperios | Cloud Atlas was good |
| 22:31.39 | Imperios | But yeah Wachowskis are kind of pretentious |
| 22:32.05 | Xho | Cloud Atlas was a Wachowskis film? |
| 22:32.07 | Xho | Geez |
| 22:32.11 | Xho | They really are a mixed bag |
| 22:32.20 | Monet | They are "LOOK, SYMBOLISM! MEANING" in human form |
| 22:32.31 | Imperios | They make really good action scenes and are impressive visualisers, but they apparently believe they are also great subtle storytellers |
| 22:32.42 | Imperios | Kind of like two transsexual Zack Snyders |
| 22:33.00 | Monet | Lol |
| 22:33.15 | Monet | I like Christopher Nolan's films. |
| 22:33.39 | Xho | Christopher Nolan's one of the few who can do all of the elements well |
| 22:35.30 | Hachiman | >can do all of the elements well |
| 22:35.31 | Imperios | I LOVE Zack, but goddamn he can't make good dialogue |
| 22:35.39 | Hachiman | Maybe he should direct an Avatar film |
| 22:36.02 | Imperios | Hachiman: The first Avatar film you mean |
| 22:36.03 | Imperios | After all |
| 22:36.09 | Imperios | Nobody has ever tried making an Avatar film |
| 22:36.12 | Imperios | IT would be SO novel |
| 22:38.18 | Xho | As if James Cameron can come up with a decent plot anyway |
| 22:38.27 | Xho | Zack Snyder would utterly murder it |
| 22:38.34 | Imperios | We mean the cartoon one |
| 22:38.37 | Xho | Oh |
| 22:38.40 | Imperios | WHICH WAS NEVER PUT TO LIVE ACTION |
| 22:38.42 | Xho | Oh god no don't do that either |
| 22:38.44 | Imperios | NEVER |
| 22:38.56 | Monet | James Cameron is a good technical director. |
| 22:39.13 | Xho | The cartoon was perfect as it was |
| 22:40.39 | Imperios | Hachiman: This reminds me, I stumbled on a discussion about what kind of movie adaptation WH40k could have |
| 22:40.44 | Monet | James Cameron can create a memorable visual experience. A memorable storytelling experience...not so much. |
| 22:41.03 | Imperios | Ditto with Snyder except his style is kind of more... dunno... artsy |
| 22:41.17 | Imperios | He works best with simple stories |
| 22:41.18 | Imperios | Like 300 |
| 22:41.41 | Xho | He didn't even do that story right |
| 22:41.53 | Xho | Disregarding the fact that Herodotus overblown it himself |
| 22:42.20 | Imperios | Xho: It works if you keep in mind that it is a story told by a surviving veteran |
| 22:42.29 | Imperios | As it is portrayed in the movie itself |
| 22:42.45 | Imperios | Basically an old man making shit up so kids would listen to him |
| 22:42.53 | Monet | More accurately Snyder's 300 was based on a comic which was based on Herodetus retelling of the battle of Thermopalye. |
| 22:43.14 | Imperios | I want a perspective flip of 300 |
| 22:43.18 | Imperios | 300 as seen by Persians |
| 22:43.35 | Imperios | A noble progressive people faces an army of fucking crazy fascist slaves |
| 22:43.35 | Xho | "OH GOD WHAT THE FUCK" |
| 22:43.37 | Imperios | slavers |
| 22:47.52 | Monet | History is written by the winners, except the one time the a piss-ant city state lost and wrote its defeat ot be fucking epic. |
| 22:53.09 | Monet | I agree seeing the battle of Thermopalye from the Persian perspective would be fresh. |
| 22:53.57 | Monet | Considering there wasa British docu-drama in the 1970s that tried telling the story and went with the idea that Xerxes marched into Greece with dreams of conquest alongside hundreds of thousands of slave soldiers. |
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