| 00:33.46 | Wormy_ | goodnight |
| 01:35.00 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 01:48.52 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 01:56.07 | DrodoEmpire | test |
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| 02:44.09 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 02:45.30 | Tek0516 | Hello |
| 02:50.07 | Tek0516 | Damnit. I've "won" this war but I can't make peace unless I can walk halfway across Europe and invade Venice. >.> |
| 03:12.09 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 03:15.03 | Tek0516 | shrugs, does exactly that and somehow defeats the numerically superior Venetians even with offensive terrain penalties |
| 03:15.11 | Tek0516 | O.o Well then. *parties* |
| 03:15.20 | The_Randomness | SeemsGood |
| 03:30.52 | DrodoEmpire | Woow |
| 03:30.56 | DrodoEmpire | What was your general like? |
| 03:31.04 | DrodoEmpire | Compared to theirs? |
| 04:03.47 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: 2 pips in fire and that's it. |
| 04:04.04 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 04:04.22 | Tek0516 | Even all my allies had meh generals |
| 04:05.12 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 04:13.25 | Tek0516 | >.< I have two valid rivals right now: Provence, and the Austrian Emperor with an army twice my size. >.> That's a way to get murdered quickly. |
| 04:26.09 | Tek0516 | Augh. There's been this loud whirring all day. No way I can sleep with this. >.< |
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| 09:03.37 | Wormydroid | Hi |
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| 09:15.40 | ImpyDroid | Hiya |
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| 09:19.48 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
| 09:23.19 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 09:24.16 | Wormydroid | Hi |
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| 10:08.02 | NeonPanda | hi all |
| 10:17.55 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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| 11:51.50 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: http://i.imgur.com/gZd2eHRl.jpg I cannot help but ponder at the context of this pic |
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| 11:53.23 | OluapPlayer_ | Goddamnit |
| 11:53.42 | OluapPlayer_ | ImpyDroid: I've been trying to talk to you for 2 days now |
| 11:53.59 | ImpyDroid | University |
| 11:54.08 | OluapPlayer_ | nurd |
| 11:54.15 | ImpyDroid | Alright so what did you want to talk about? |
| 11:54.20 | OluapPlayer_ | I got a WoW subscription |
| 11:54.27 | OluapPlayer_ | We can play together now |
| 11:54.40 | ImpyDroid | You do, I don't |
| 11:55.06 | OluapPlayer_ | You don't? |
| 11:55.10 | ImpyDroid | Mine has expired |
| 11:55.18 | ImpyDroid | Cos university |
| 11:55.21 | OluapPlayer_ | fug |
| 11:55.35 | ImpyDroid | I think I'll resubscribe the next February |
| 11:55.40 | OluapPlayer_ | That sucks, I was hoping to play with you and Monet |
| 11:55.44 | ImpyDroid | Did you purchase Legion too? |
| 11:55.53 | OluapPlayer_ | Yes |
| 11:55.56 | ImpyDroid | Ooh |
| 11:56.08 | ImpyDroid | Get acquainted with the world while we are at it |
| 11:56.33 | ImpyDroid | Then you'll gear up and we will play together next year |
| 11:56.57 | ImpyDroid | You using a boost or levelling the old-fashioned way? |
| 11:57.21 | OluapPlayer_ | Old-fashioned questing. Using a boost on my first character wouldn't feel right |
| 11:57.29 | OluapPlayer_ | I'm level 47 now. Played up to the end of the Plaguelands quests, then decided to go to Stormwind and do the human lands |
| 11:57.44 | ImpyDroid | Plaguelands are fun as fuck |
| 11:57.48 | ImpyDroid | Fiona is <3 |
| 11:57.54 | OluapPlayer_ | I quite liked the Plaguelands |
| 11:58.17 | OluapPlayer_ | I played up until I reached the Duskwood |
| 11:58.21 | ImpyDroid | Which class are you? |
| 11:58.27 | ImpyDroid | Plaguewood? |
| 11:58.33 | OluapPlayer_ | Warrior |
| 11:58.34 | ImpyDroid | Duskwood is a different zone |
| 11:58.42 | OluapPlayer_ | No, Duskwood |
| 11:58.48 | ImpyDroid | Ah |
| 11:58.54 | ImpyDroid | Fuck, that means we'll need a healer |
| 11:59.01 | OluapPlayer_ | I've done Plaguewoods already |
| 11:59.09 | OluapPlayer_ | Monet said you were a gnome priest |
| 11:59.13 | ImpyDroid | monk |
| 11:59.16 | ImpyDroid | Brewmaster monk |
| 11:59.25 | ImpyDroid | So tank |
| 11:59.25 | OluapPlayer_ | Wow, big stretch |
| 11:59.42 | ImpyDroid | I have a priest but it is Russian |
| 11:59.45 | ImpyDroid | And Horde |
| 11:59.48 | OluapPlayer_ | Ah |
| 12:00.14 | OluapPlayer_ | Monet says he's a human warrior and I'm leveling the Arms vocation |
| 12:00.25 | OluapPlayer_ | So yeah we got no heals |
| 12:00.28 | ImpyDroid | >vocation |
| 12:00.39 | OluapPlayer_ | Isn't that how they're called? |
| 12:00.48 | ImpyDroid | specialisation |
| 12:01.05 | OluapPlayer_ | Yeah that |
| 12:01.20 | ImpyDroid | I might respec into Mistweaver then perhaps |
| 12:01.52 | OluapPlayer_ | I've got quests leading me into dungeons but I've not gone into them yet, I'd rather play with you guys than do them with strangers |
| 12:02.09 | ImpyDroid | Oh BTW, do not try to make sense of the story from 60 to 80 |
| 12:02.27 | ImpyDroid | Nah do LFG, it is a pretty big boost for levelling |
| 12:02.39 | ImpyDroid | Organised groups of friends are more for Mythical |
| 12:02.41 | ImpyDroid | *Mythic |
| 12:02.53 | NeonPanda | they're also good for sanity if you're a tank |
| 12:03.07 | ImpyDroid | Ah |
| 12:03.09 | ImpyDroid | Yeah |
| 12:03.18 | OluapPlayer_ | Do you also play WoW Panda? |
| 12:03.24 | ImpyDroid | By God Emerald Nightmare was nightmarish |
| 12:03.25 | NeonPanda | the number of times I had to say "What do you idiots not understand about STAND BEHIND ME" in ArcheAge |
| 12:03.26 | NeonPanda | non |
| 12:03.37 | OluapPlayer_ | rite |
| 12:03.51 | NeonPanda | I've played otehr MMOs but not WoW |
| 12:04.08 | ImpyDroid | There was a debuff that exploded me if dispelled, so I had to be dispelled when away from other people |
| 12:04.18 | ImpyDroid | GUESS WHERE THEY DISPELLED ME |
| 12:04.33 | OluapPlayer_ | In the middle of the raid |
| 12:04.42 | ImpyDroid | Indeed |
| 12:05.02 | NeonPanda | there was one raid in ArcheAge that had one simple mechanic: throw a bucket of water at whoever's on fire |
| 12:05.11 | NeonPanda | I tell everyone who does the raid with me that mechanic |
| 12:05.16 | NeonPanda | nobody throws fuckign water |
| 12:05.58 | OluapPlayer_ | That's one reason I don't want to do LFG, the lack of organization. Strangers are just gonna want to rush in and get the place done as soon as they can |
| 12:06.10 | OluapPlayer_ | I'd rather take my time and read NPC dialog |
| 12:07.27 | OluapPlayer_ | And I don't do well with strangers in general |
| 12:07.33 | OluapPlayer_ | ImpyDroid: What's wrong with 60-80? |
| 12:07.55 | ImpyDroid | Basically Cataclysm creates a time paradox |
| 12:08.10 | ImpyDroid | It updated the 1-60 quests but not 60-80 |
| 12:08.27 | ImpyDroid | So first we do quests that take place after Illidan and the Lich King were defeated |
| 12:08.36 | ImpyDroid | Then defeat Illidan and the Lich King |
| 12:09.21 | OluapPlayer_ | Ah |
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| 12:09.38 | OluapPlayer_ | That makes sense |
| 12:12.02 | OluapPlayer_ | I was a little overwhelmed by my first visit to Stormwind |
| 12:12.12 | OluapPlayer_ | The place has a staggering amount of people in it |
| 12:12.26 | OluapPlayer_ | The tiny streets make it somewhat claustrophobic |
| 12:13.19 | OluapPlayer_ | Nevermind the fact most of them were level 100+ neon shining abominations with dragon mounts or mammoth mounts |
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| 12:13.59 | OluapPlayer_ | Hi |
| 12:14.22 | NeonPanda | hi |
| 12:14.54 | Monet | Hello |
| 12:15.34 | OluapPlayer_ | Imp was telling me his WoW sub expired, so turns out he can't play with us |
| 12:23.26 | Monet | Shame that. |
| 12:40.58 | NeonPanda | bbl |
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| 12:42.54 | Imperios | Monet OluapPlayer_: https://fa707ec5abab9620c91c-e087a9513984a31bae18dd7ef8b1f502.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/6019015_bees-the-imperial--emblem-chosen--by-napoleon_24ae3536_m.jpg?bg=4D351D So apparently Napoleon's symbol was |
| 12:43.15 | OluapPlayer_ | BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES |
| 12:45.42 | Monet | Napoleon - I am queen bee of Europe |
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| 12:54.18 | Hachiman | Hello |
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| 12:56.54 | NeonPanda | hi all |
| 13:00.13 | Monet | Hello |
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| 13:39.14 | NeonPanda | so, how's everyone doing? |
| 13:42.45 | Tek0516 | Alright.getting ready for the weekend |
| 13:43.53 | Hachiman | NeonPanda: I'm alright |
| 13:44.37 | Hachiman | Monet: I really feel like the 2010s is a good opportunity for a director to pick up and reboot Blade what with all of the new Marvel adaptions and stuff coming out |
| 13:45.27 | NeonPanda | there does need to be another movie to make vampires cool again |
| 13:45.32 | NeonPanda | undo the damage of Twilight |
| 13:47.47 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 13:47.57 | Hachiman | I mean, there is Underworld |
| 13:48.05 | Hachiman | Which I'm honestly neutral towards |
| 13:49.59 | Monet | I'd be interested in a Blade reboot. |
| 13:50.40 | NeonPanda | some parts of underworld were good, others not so much |
| 13:50.47 | NeonPanda | still dislike the whole vampires in skin tight leather thing |
| 13:51.54 | Hachiman | Monet: Would be fucking hilarious if they started a Blade reboot with the original Blade design |
| 13:52.04 | NeonPanda | like you'd expect an older vampire especially to be in some kind of really poncey business suit, if they're not wearing something straight out of their original time period |
| 13:52.46 | Hachiman | Oh wait no, it was the original Luke Cage who had the afro and funky disco clothes |
| 13:52.53 | Monet | NeonPanda: That's one of the things I liked about the vampires in the TV series Being Human. |
| 13:53.04 | Hachiman | Ah Being Human was fantastic |
| 13:53.07 | NeonPanda | ^ |
| 13:53.50 | NeonPanda | Interview with a Vampire also made me quite happy because yeah, one of them wore modern attire to fit in, while the other still wore period attire that he maintained through vampire magic because that's just who he is |
| 13:53.59 | Monet | You had the Old Ones or leaders who walked around in overcoats and three-piece suits. |
| 13:54.25 | Hachiman | Americans praise Doctor Who as being the pinnacle of UK entertainment, but Being Human really tackled some serious issues and, in spite of the fact the premise is about a vampire, a ghost, and a werewolf being roommates, is really rather grounded |
| 13:54.34 | Hachiman | And the characters are amazing |
| 13:55.07 | Hachiman | Shame that it kind of dropped off the deep end once the vamp guy, I think his name was Michael, was killed off |
| 13:55.34 | NeonPanda | there's a lot of shows that jump the shark when they try to kill someone for drama |
| 13:55.35 | Monet | Actually that reminded me of one of the few fun moments form season three where the Old Ones planned a "march across the UK biting everyone we see" style invasion. When this younger vampire with a smartphone points out that tactic no longer works as the UK isn't a country of isolated villages. |
| 13:56.06 | Hachiman | Yeah, I liked how the Old Ones are really out of touch with the modern age |
| 14:00.54 | NeonPanda | it kinda reminds me of the setting of one book series I quite liked, where basically a ruling caste of elves gets overthrown because they didn't realise that in the space of the last elven generation humans had discovered, perfected and weaponised gunpowder |
| 14:01.52 | Hachiman | That's probably fucking scary for an elf |
| 14:02.49 | Monet | Reminds me of the ancient elves in Dragon Age. |
| 14:03.11 | NeonPanda | it was, cos they basically went from having complete domination over humans cos a few elves fucked over an entire army in melee combat, to a single scrubby human with a rifle being able to kill an elf from outside of bow range |
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| 14:04.25 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 14:08.52 | ImpyDroid2 | Hachiman: https://fa707ec5abab9620c91c-e087a9513984a31bae18dd7ef8b1f502.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/6019015_bees-the-imperial--emblem-chosen--by-napoleon_24ae3536_m.jpg?bg=4D351D So that was the personal symbol of Napoleon |
| 14:13.48 | Hachiman | NOT THE BEES |
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| 14:22.22 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 14:23.15 | NeonPanda | hi |
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| 14:26.02 | The_Randomness | Hey |
| 14:26.28 | Wormydroid | Hi |
| 14:27.18 | Wormydroid | I find Starbucks is too sweet and it gave me a sugar rush |
| 14:28.00 | Wormydroid | People rave on about it for its expensive and places sweetness over flavour to me |
| 14:32.02 | Wormydroid | Twst |
| 14:32.54 | NeonPanda | you pass on a 15 or above on a d20 |
| 14:39.47 | Gymrios | \ |
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| 15:02.03 | Wormydroid | Hi |
| 15:02.30 | The_Randomness | wb |
| 15:03.18 | NeonPanda | quick question: anyone in the various D&D groups that have happened played any of the monster hunter games? |
| 15:03.38 | The_Randomness | I haven't, but I do know a fair number of people that have. |
| 15:03.39 | Wormydroid | Is it true Americans don't say 'cheers', this student from Texas thought it was funby I said 'cheers' to him |
| 15:04.11 | Wormydroid | Its an informal thank you |
| 15:05.17 | Monet | NeonPanda: I played a bit of the origina land III |
| 15:05.21 | Monet | original* |
| 15:09.19 | Hachiman | I've played Monster Hunter with Oluap loads of times |
| 15:14.41 | NeonPanda | I ask because I had the idea of doing a monster hunt of the week kind of game |
| 15:14.56 | NeonPanda | this being after Oluap's game, just an idea I'm musing on |
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| 15:22.17 | Wormydroid | Think I caught someone filmibg or snapping pics of me close up on their phone, when I stared directly at him he put it down quickly |
| 15:23.03 | Wormydroid | I come from a family of photographers so I am used to it and think its okay to pic people with courage but still, creepy |
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| 15:23.21 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 15:24.06 | The_Randomness | Hey |
| 15:24.11 | Wormydroid | Just the usual odd things I experience on my Fruday train ride home from Nottingham |
| 15:24.21 | Wormydroid | Hi |
| 15:24.56 | Monet | WormyDroid: You might be interested in this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUiqaFIONPQ&feature=youtu.be |
| 15:26.40 | Wormydroid | I'll watch it later because I'm on data, but I love Adam Curtis documentaries and style |
| 15:27.12 | Monet | It's only a trailer |
| 15:27.25 | Monet | The full thing will be on Iplayer this sunday at 9pm |
| 15:27.45 | Tek0516 | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1476456697-20161014.png |
| 15:28.40 | Wormydroid | Nice, will watch. It might be a long one like Bitter Lake |
| 15:30.26 | Wormydroid | Damn thoughtforms |
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| 15:48.04 | Wormydroid_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:48.07 | Wormydroid_ | Readibg about it here |
| 15:50.33 | Monet | I'm somewhat reminded of Beaudrillard's idea of hyper-realism |
| 15:52.09 | Wormydroid_ | I suppose there's a common theme in Curtis documentaries that we emotionally cling to simplified models of the world, because it is comforting, pretends to becthe natural law of things, or creates power |
| 15:53.05 | Wormydroid_ | But from a critical ratipnaliat point of view, we shpuld be constantly critical or experimental to all facts amd claims to knowledge |
| 15:53.11 | Wormydroid_ | Rationalist |
| 15:53.37 | Monet | I can't remember who it is attributed to but as they say "the difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense" |
| 15:54.07 | The_Randomness | heh |
| 15:54.56 | Wormydroid_ | All ideas are myths, but some survive because they're bad or because they survived criticism, and in such cases they aren't the ebd of the riad as the knowledge is finite and the world dynamic |
| 15:55.37 | Wormydroid_ | Aren't the end of the road |
| 15:56.22 | Wormydroid_ | And critical rationalism forces me to say even this is fallible... Fallibly |
| 15:56.57 | Wormydroid_ | Logic aside it seems to work better than justified knowledge |
| 15:57.36 | Wormydroid_ | I.e. "it worked in the past", "this economic theory wirks like rhis kaw" |
| 15:57.41 | Wormydroid_ | This law |
| 15:58.14 | Wormydroid_ | Which is often what politics involves in the public sphere |
| 15:58.53 | Wormydroid_ | Sorry, I just love epistemology |
| 15:59.00 | The_Randomness | :P |
| 15:59.12 | NeonPanda | nothing to apologise about |
| 15:59.18 | The_Randomness | ^ |
| 15:59.19 | NeonPanda | everyone goes off every once in a while |
| 15:59.29 | The_Randomness | I also find this stuff interesting too |
| 15:59.47 | NeonPanda | I don't, I'm just not enough of a cock to tell you to stop XD |
| 15:59.53 | Wormydroid_ | Cool |
| 16:00.03 | The_Randomness | lol panda |
| 16:00.13 | NeonPanda | just being honest XD |
| 16:00.32 | NeonPanda | I shouldn't drink this much caffeine and stay up this late, it leads to excessive use of unironic smileys |
| 16:00.55 | The_Randomness | what time is it again where you are? |
| 16:01.06 | NeonPanda | 1am daylight savings time |
| 16:01.09 | The_Randomness | I know it's currently 4 PM in the UK |
| 16:01.10 | NeonPanda | so my body thinks it's 2am |
| 16:01.17 | The_Randomness | ah |
| 16:01.51 | Monet | 1am is late? |
| 16:01.52 | NeonPanda | which I don't really have a problem with, I just have an excess of energy and not enough to occupy said energy |
| 16:02.15 | NeonPanda | Monet: it's past midnight |
| 16:02.40 | NeonPanda | you should by now be familiar with the fact that when caffeine is involved, the later in the night I get the crazier I get |
| 16:03.06 | Monet | Yeah but I don't consider 1 to be *too* late. |
| 16:03.06 | NeonPanda | given the number of times it's influenced D&D games |
| 16:03.26 | NeonPanda | I don't either but it's still late |
| 16:03.31 | Monet | Mainly because I usually find myself in bed by 2am. |
| 16:04.34 | NeonPanda | at some point I should also hurry up and make a bloody game of Cyberpunk happen, I've been lacking on that count |
| 16:04.40 | Hachiman | So, apparently the Great Barrier Reef has officially been declared dead |
| 16:04.45 | The_Randomness | Hachiman: f |
| 16:04.49 | NeonPanda | Hachiman: no it hasn't you monkey |
| 16:04.54 | NeonPanda | it's nowhere near dead |
| 16:05.06 | Monet | Sources plz |
| 16:06.04 | Hachiman | https://www.outsideonline.com/2112086/obituary-great-barrier-reef-25-million-bc-2016 |
| 16:07.42 | NeonPanda | environmentalist groups have been trying to sell the "the reef is dead" line for years, the science says it's still functional and alive |
| 16:08.14 | NeonPanda | and yes the government did get the UN to pull that chapter because it would fuck up the tourism industry, which in turn would fuck up the state's economy |
| 16:08.44 | NeonPanda | there's nothing official about it being declared dead at all |
| 16:10.17 | Monet | Scientific American reports the amount of dead coral is "more than half" |
| 16:10.38 | Hachiman | Then UniLad has lied to me |
| 16:10.40 | Monet | "âReefs that are in better shape should fare better under climate change,â said John Pandolfi, a University of Queensland professor who contributed to high-profile coral surveys, the results of which were released this week. âBut, in this case, we found huge instances of coral mortality.â" |
| 16:11.21 | Monet | Unilad most likely exaggerated. |
| 16:12.04 | NeonPanda | in the northern regions yes, there is significant mortality, the reef as a whole is still solid, and the argument of "in the future climate change will kill it" applies to literally the planet at this point |
| 16:12.41 | Monet | Part of the Scientific American reports mentions how a cyclone back in February brought cooler waters to the southern regions of the reef. |
| 16:13.03 | NeonPanda | the reason I'm being strident about this (aside from the caffeine) is that ultimatum environmentalists piss me off and that's all we ever hear from down here |
| 16:13.56 | Monet | "Our planet is dying, we're past the tipping point" - said ultimatum environmentalists for the past, what, 20 years? |
| 16:14.17 | Monet | https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/best-protected-great-barrier-reef-corals-are-now-dead/ ta-daa |
| 16:14.17 | NeonPanda | it's entirely possible that the state's economy could collapse in a few years because the greens are trying to block literally everything that could give us enough of an economic boost to stabilise, |
| 16:14.59 | NeonPanda | and they're continually selling the same doom and gloom messages that are on the way to destroying the tourism industry, and at that rate QLD has nothing left to make anything new from |
| 16:15.03 | Hachiman | And by harming the state economy, that in turn harms funding to protect aforementioned reefs |
| 16:15.22 | Hachiman | + |
| 16:15.26 | Hachiman | Whoops |
| 16:15.28 | Monet | Smarter environmentalists pick their battles. |
| 16:16.32 | NeonPanda | smarter environmentalists offer alternatives, not ultimatums |
| 16:16.57 | NeonPanda | and I know that it's dying, everyone does, thing is there's a difference between dying and dead |
| 16:17.22 | NeonPanda | and if the message of dead keeps getting sold, nobody's going to do anything to save the bits that are still alive |
| 16:17.32 | Hachiman | Things that are dying can be brought back, I suppose |
| 16:18.37 | Monet | The great barrier reef may be the world's largest organism, but its sheer size means that parts of it can be declared dead while the rest still thrives. |
| 16:18.52 | NeonPanda | Monet: exactly, which is the problem with calling the whole thing dead |
| 16:19.34 | NeonPanda | and if the rest of it is saved, the dead parts can grow back- the same UQ scientist who was quoted in that article was my BIOL1040 lecturer, said the same thing himself |
| 16:20.05 | NeonPanda | he gave a full three hour lecture on the subject of coral death, a major point of which being that very fact |
| 16:20.24 | Monet | If I understand correctly, it's not one organism per se, but an interconnected amalgamate. |
| 16:20.32 | NeonPanda | ^ |
| 16:21.16 | NeonPanda | what pisses me the hell off is that rather than offer and promote methods of saving what's still around, and therefore provide an opportunity for regrowth, "environmental" groups would rather sell the idea |
| 16:21.26 | NeonPanda | of it all being dead and gone already, which just encourages people to let it die |
| 16:21.57 | Monet | Or like you said, they'd rather complain and expect someone else to find a solution. |
| 16:22.01 | NeonPanda | the fact of hte matter is that even if all the already at risk areas died out completely, what's left would still be the largest coral reef of its kind- and still very much alive and worth saving |
| 16:22.44 | NeonPanda | it's the same thing with coal mining- Australian coal is both cleaner and more energy-rich than comparable coal mined in many places in the world, yet people want us to stop mining it like that will change anything |
| 16:23.12 | NeonPanda | we're not the only coal miners in the world, and those third-world power plants are going to buy coal from someone- might as well be us while we offer a better product, and can use that money to transition into renewables |
| 16:23.49 | NeonPanda | there was an economic study comparing Australian coal mining to Danish oil mining (I think it's denmark, whichever one has the ton of oil) in terms of state asset value |
| 16:24.36 | NeonPanda | basically we could be using all those proposed coal mines to provide the funding to significantly offset our power production, which would in turn then generate more money for the state |
| 16:24.45 | The_Randomness | brb |
| 16:25.08 | NeonPanda | but no, the greens insist that all new coal mines be blocked for as long as possible, and existing ones be shut down because they're bad for the environment- when in actuality shutting down any given mine has no impact at all |
| 16:25.26 | NeonPanda | because as I said, those same coal-burning power plants are still going to buy coal, just from somewhere else |
| 16:25.57 | NeonPanda | don't get me wrong, I'm all for the environment, but have a fucking plan people |
| 16:27.28 | Monet | It's like giving up smoking; you don't go cold turkey on day one. |
| 16:28.39 | Monet | Transition is gradual and it's often complicated. |
| 16:29.36 | Hachiman | I dunno whether to consider going cold turkey admirable or stupid |
| 16:29.40 | NeonPanda | basically what Denmark does is use the money it saves from using its own fossil fuels, plus the money it makes by selling excess fossil fuels, to reinvest in infrastructure |
| 16:30.08 | NeonPanda | Hachiman: in the case where the primary industry in queensland is mining, stupid as hell |
| 16:31.02 | NeonPanda | if Queensland did what Denmark does (taking into account our taxes work differently, e.t.c.) we'd still have a significant economic boost that could then go into paying for renewable energy sources |
| 16:31.05 | Monet | Hachiman: When it comes to addiction, often stupid. You'll feel terrible and your plan is to wait until the horrible feeling goes away. |
| 16:31.40 | Monet | Unfortunately in that cold turkey period you will not feel good at. all. |
| 16:32.34 | NeonPanda | tl;dr fuck the greens, idiots don't know what they're doing |
| 16:33.08 | NeonPanda | the worst part is that the people who are genuinely making positive steps are getting sucked into the mass of crap and dragged down, rather than actually being able to help |
| 16:33.42 | Monet | They have good intentions but that doesn't excuse them from acting self-righteous thinking they know what's best. |
| 16:33.56 | NeonPanda | ^ |
| 16:34.20 | NeonPanda | whether they realise it or not they're fucking up our economy more than it's already fucked up |
| 16:34.37 | NeonPanda | at least the government stopped trying to touch it for a while so it's strengthened a bit |
| 16:34.40 | Monet | China may be one of the top offenders for environmental negligence, but they *are* changing. There is a growing tertiary industry in China. |
| 16:35.26 | NeonPanda | and to be fair they haven't had a realistic option to significantly employ renewable energy for a fair while |
| 16:35.37 | Monet | Maybe one day China can join the ranks of the world's eco-advocates but right now that's not really possible unless they send millions back into poverty. |
| 16:35.42 | NeonPanda | a lot of developing nations don't have that option |
| 16:36.01 | Monet | Yeah. |
| 16:36.23 | NeonPanda | which, again, is why I'd rather their fossil fuel generators be burning comparatively cleaner and more energy efficient coal, such as the variety you buy from Australia :P |
| 16:36.41 | NeonPanda | and not entirely because that means we get more money |
| 16:37.15 | Monet | All these eco-advocates championing ideas that work in Europe are championing ideas that worked because Europe has the infrastructure and the economy to permit it. |
| 16:37.46 | NeonPanda | I can't remember where I saw it but there was one estimation made once that indicated that a particular coal mine opening would actually net benefit carbon emissions due to out-competing dirtier product |
| 16:38.53 | NeonPanda | of course as it stands the Australian government is a dead fish until the baby boomers all die |
| 16:40.27 | Monet | Yeah that's perfectly reasonable, you guys just then have to avoid parliament getting be stocked with Trudeaulites. |
| 16:42.21 | NeonPanda | a lot of Australians are surprisingly reasonable, we're currently just being monkeyed by people who are appealing to the baby boomers |
| 16:42.55 | NeonPanda | and Pauline Hanson got back into parliament by god knows how |
| 16:42.57 | Monet | I'm just sceptical of this idea of "things would be so much better if our politicians were in their twenties instead of their fifties" |
| 16:43.31 | Monet | Oh that kind of waiting for the baby boomers to die" |
| 16:43.53 | Monet | My bad. |
| 16:44.06 | NeonPanda | yeah it's not so much that we just blindly assume that young people are better, it's that the past few governments have been favouring sustaining the older generation over promoting growth |
| 16:44.36 | NeonPanda | which politically is a good move because they make up the voting majority, but it's terrible in terms of actually improving the country |
| 16:44.46 | Monet | The British electorate share your pain. |
| 16:45.30 | NeonPanda | we do have some younger politicians coming in that are actually interested in progressive policy, we just need the old farts to move on so we can elect them already |
| 16:45.42 | NeonPanda | and not Pauline Hanson |
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| 16:46.10 | NeonPanda | tl;dr Pauline Hanson: Trump lite |
| 16:46.11 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 16:46.15 | NeonPanda | hi |
| 16:46.32 | Monet | That's one of my primary criticisms of modern democracy; all that matters is the next four years. |
| 16:46.38 | NeonPanda | ^ |
| 16:46.52 | NeonPanda | three in Queensland |
| 16:47.02 | Monet | That's even worse. |
| 16:47.33 | Monet | How does anything get done? |
| 16:47.49 | NeonPanda | things getting done in Queensland? nice joke there :P |
| 16:48.35 | NeonPanda | we've also only got two levels of state government, as opposed to the typical three |
| 16:48.42 | NeonPanda | we don't have an upper house to review things |
| 16:49.09 | Monet | I'm so sorry. |
| 16:51.57 | NeonPanda | so yeah, basically our government is messed up and won't get any better any time soon |
| 16:52.26 | NeonPanda | there was a serious call for a "none of the above" option on electoral ballots |
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| 17:08.58 | NeonPanda | I DC'ed and may have missed things, either way am now back |
| 17:10.18 | Monet | You didn't. |
| 17:11.16 | NeonPanda | fair enough |
| 17:11.49 | NeonPanda | I am now back to figuring out how to make an alchemist in pathfinder with a crossbow that fires alchemical... munitions I suppose you could say |
| 17:12.11 | NeonPanda | kinda like Green Arrow or Hawkeye |
| 17:12.17 | NeonPanda | bolts for different purposes |
| 17:52.39 | Monet | http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=741819051&searchtext= heh |
| 17:54.51 | NeonPanda | double heh |
| 17:55.05 | NeonPanda | only stellaris mod I've used so far is a weapon rebalance mod |
| 17:56.20 | Monet | *Gollum voice* Fithly stinking casuals! |
| 17:57.33 | NeonPanda | to be fair the weapons did need a bit of rebalancing, as there was no good reason to use large mounts until you got tachyon lances, and there was no good weapon to deal with high evasion corvettes due to torpedoes being so easily countered |
| 17:58.42 | The_Randomness | lasers op |
| 17:59.01 | The_Randomness | I may have to try out that mod...once I have time to play the game a bunch again |
| 18:00.39 | NeonPanda | basically what it did was make larger mounts proportionally more powerful (rather than being equal in DPS to two of the smaller equivalent weapons but with lower accuracy, and therefore net lower DPS), made point defence a bit worse and made arc throwers actually arc |
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| 18:09.33 | Cyrannian | Hai |
| 18:10.31 | NeonPanda | hi |
| 18:12.44 | The_Randomness | Oh, I didn't know that about larger mounts |
| 18:12.47 | The_Randomness | and hey |
| 18:13.36 | NeonPanda | yeah in the base game it's actually more efficient technically speaking to just spam small mounts right up until you get tachyon lances |
| 18:13.54 | NeonPanda | then again in the base game you can basically get away with anything |
| 18:14.07 | NeonPanda | well, anything except pacifism |
| 18:15.37 | The_Randomness | lol |
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| 18:17.37 | Xho | gah |
| 18:17.42 | Xho | Feminism debates on Twitter |
| 18:17.51 | Xho | Be the moral abyss like me and just destroy humanity |
| 18:18.00 | The_Randomness | z |
| 18:20.26 | Xho | I don't believe feminism can be valid if it's founded by the damn media |
| 18:21.56 | Hachiman | I don't believe feminism is valid in a society where men are clearly the superior sex |
| 18:22.13 | Xho | eh |
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| 18:25.42 | Technobliterator | I know that's a joke, but |
| 18:25.43 | Technobliterator | ._. |
| 18:25.54 | The_Randomness | cmonBruh |
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| 18:45.24 | Xho | all ded |
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| 18:55.35 | Xho | Hm what to do |
| 19:00.59 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:An_Eye_for_An_Eye I'll continue with this I think |
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| 19:05.54 | Xho | Then again it's Fictionverse stuff |
| 19:05.54 | Xho | Hm |
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| 19:07.10 | Xho | Might do it tomorrow actually, don't feel like editing |
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| 19:14.39 | Tybusen | Hello |
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| 19:51.10 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
| 19:51.45 | Monet_2 | Hello |
| 20:03.57 | HachiTop | ImpyDroid: I know that we do not have any white witches in the Koldewelt setting as of current, but do you reckon that light magic could be used for a variant of necromancy |
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| 20:32.02 | HachiTop | ImpyDroid2: I know that we do not have any white witches in the Koldewelt setting as of current, but do you reckon that light magic could be used for a variant of necromancy |
| 20:53.39 | ImpyDroid2 | HachiTop: Not sure if it would feel right |
| 20:53.45 | ImpyDroid2 | Communing with the dead maybe |
| 20:53.52 | ImpyDroid2 | Necromancy in its original form |
| 20:54.13 | HachiTop | I mean, Mercy from Overwatch can resurrect the dead |
| 20:54.23 | ImpyDroid2 | But I think it would be better to reserve all death-related stuff to dark magic to give it some meaning outside "evil blarg" |
| 20:54.37 | ImpyDroid2 | I always treated resurrect spells in games as purely game mechanics |
| 20:55.04 | ImpyDroid2 | I imagine light mages could do that in non-game settings, but only with the aid of a deity |
| 20:55.15 | ImpyDroid2 | In a one in a lifetime situation |
| 20:55.58 | ImpyDroid2 | "Hey Pheonas I really want you to go to Mortium's house and ask really nicely if he could give that soul back" |
| 20:56.16 | ImpyDroid2 | Tybusen: http://vk.com/photo-92597394_433930516 |
| 20:56.17 | HachiTop | And then Mortium says no hur |
| 20:56.54 | Tybusen | ImpyDroid2: sugoi |
| 20:57.55 | ImpyDroid2 | Outright tampering with the dead should probably remain darkness's domsin |
| 20:58.04 | ImpyDroid2 | Albeit it could be extended to communing with the dead |
| 20:58.55 | HachiTop | Makes some sense though; I was thinking that instead of zombies and skeletons and wraiths and such, the light magic equivalent could be like summoning souls willing to assist in a situation |
| 20:59.04 | HachiTop | Like einherjar or something |
| 20:59.57 | ImpyDroid2 | Could be interesting |
| 21:00.28 | ImpyDroid2 | Probably quite limited though, I imagine for luxomancers it would be seen as a much more serious thing |
| 21:01.07 | HachiTop | Yeah |
| 21:01.10 | HachiTop | Also brb |
| 21:06.21 | Hachiman | Back |
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| 21:06.51 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 21:10.47 | ImpyDroid2 | Hachiman: Imagine pre-Empire Mannazia vs Alhassal battles |
| 21:11.02 | Hachiman | Actual crusade material right there |
| 21:11.26 | ImpyDroid2 | Knights and longswordsmen versus mounted archers together with hordes of crossbowmen and WAR FUCKING ELEPHANTS |
| 21:11.40 | ImpyDroid2 | Actually Drodo how would mounted archers fare against knights? |
| 21:11.57 | Hachiman | WAR FUCKING ELEPHANTS pitted against dire wolves and such |
| 21:12.37 | ImpyDroid2 | Rawr |
| 21:13.07 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 21:13.28 | DrodoEmpire | Well, first I should point out that horse archers are so *fucking* overrated >.< |
| 21:13.34 | DrodoEmpire | And horse archers themselves can vary |
| 21:13.50 | Xho | I can't imagine the actual practicality of a horse archer |
| 21:13.57 | DrodoEmpire | Oh they're extremely practical |
| 21:13.59 | ImpyDroid2 | Hit and run duh |
| 21:13.59 | Hachiman | >what are Mongols |
| 21:14.01 | DrodoEmpire | History proves that |
| 21:14.09 | DrodoEmpire | But they aren't the be all, end all |
| 21:14.19 | Xho | shiarchon pls |
| 21:14.27 | ImpyDroid2 | Well yeah I am wondering where they could be beaten and where they could be superior |
| 21:14.32 | DrodoEmpire | Horse archers are good on level, open terrain, where there's room to maneuver and harass |
| 21:14.38 | ImpyDroid2 | Rough terrain is a big problem I imagine |
| 21:14.43 | Monet_2 | Rough ground yeah |
| 21:14.45 | DrodoEmpire | And do as the mongols did and lead people in to traps |
| 21:14.51 | Hachiman | It'd be interesting since the Alhassans are worshippers of Pheonas and believe in powers beyond while the Mannazians worship historical human figures like Ahmalhrich and Mannazei the Red rather than actual divine powers |
| 21:15.11 | Hachiman | Mannazian religion is essentially HUMANITY FUCK YEAH |
| 21:15.11 | DrodoEmpire | If there's smooth terrain, and the people with horse archers are smart and patient, they can crush heavy cavalry |
| 21:15.23 | DrodoEmpire | The Mongols did against the Russians/Hungarians many times |
| 21:15.39 | Monet_2 | So it depends on the landscapes of both sides. |
| 21:15.42 | ImpyDroid2 | That would explain why Alhassal and Mannazia never managed to conquer each other |
| 21:15.51 | ImpyDroid2 | Their respective terrain blocks the opposing army |
| 21:15.53 | DrodoEmpire | But dedicated heavy cavalry would annhilate horse archers up close |
| 21:16.11 | DrodoEmpire | And horse archers would be pretty useless in rough terrain |
| 21:16.14 | DrodoEmpire | So are most cav |
| 21:16.15 | ImpyDroid2 | Hachiman: FREEDOM IS THE ONLY WAY |
| 21:16.46 | DrodoEmpire | That's one reason why the Mongols didn't conquer Western Europe |
| 21:16.50 | DrodoEmpire | Or Germany |
| 21:17.05 | DrodoEmpire | The land could feed thousands of horses and didn't make good fighting terrain, plus political troubles |
| 21:17.11 | DrodoEmpire | *couldn't |
| 21:17.12 | Hachiman | Considering Mannazians are the descendants of slaves who used to serve magic-wielding worshippers of Isiris and other divine figures, I imagine they'd not like the Alhassan ideal of essentially binding themselves to voluntary slavery and worship of Pheonas |
| 21:17.36 | DrodoEmpire | So, yeah |
| 21:17.42 | DrodoEmpire | Depending on the terrain its a bit of a wash |
| 21:18.33 | Xho | That part of Koldenwelt is semi arid |
| 21:18.45 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 21:18.52 | Hachiman | It was also the power of mankind that saved the Mannazians from elven enslavement, not the power of gods - why worship a deity that has done nothing for you when you can praise the memory of men and women who dedicated their lives to ensure your freedom |
| 21:18.55 | DrodoEmpire | ALso-- Just *how* heavy are these knights? |
| 21:19.26 | DrodoEmpire | Horse archers, unless they are the finest in the world, are good because they're extremely fast skirmishers and not necessarily because they dish out huge amounts of damage |
| 21:20.02 | DrodoEmpire | And we have accounts from the Crusades of heavily-armoured knights being pelted with dozens of arrows, and emerging completely unharmed |
| 21:20.08 | Xho | Hachiman: Longinus - dis type of shit is why i worship aur |
| 21:20.09 | Monet_2 | I like to think (because I'm optimistic) that the potential to develop new weapons to maintain an advantage is a sign of creativity, not necessarily violence. |
| 21:20.21 | DrodoEmpire | Its creativity applied to violence |
| 21:20.31 | Hachiman | So, Mannazia is essentially an atheist state I suppose, although actual number of Mannazian antitheists is probably comparatively low |
| 21:20.37 | Hachiman | At least, as of the New Age |
| 21:21.12 | Xho | Makes me wonder what Dalmiric military is like |
| 21:21.13 | Xho | Or was |
| 21:21.20 | DrodoEmpire | So I mean it could easily be a matter of these knights taking literally zero casualties, chasing these horse-archers around |
| 21:21.33 | Hachiman | Aren't the Dalmiric humans based on Native Americans? |
| 21:21.47 | DrodoEmpire | And being lead in to a trap (if the knights are overexcited, which can happen) |
| 21:21.56 | Xho | Appearance wise |
| 21:22.09 | Xho | Culturally speaking, hm |
| 21:22.09 | DrodoEmpire | (often happens really, its in fact very difficult for officers, especially in this era, to keep track of their soldiers) |
| 21:22.45 | Monet_2 | DrodoEmpire: Or depending on the situation, creativity applied to improving survivability. |
| 21:22.58 | Xho | As Talmyr is mostly flat I guess they'd emulate the Mongols almost |
| 21:23.01 | Xho | And cold |
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| 21:23.22 | DrodoEmpire | Has anyone considered basing a nation off of the Polish? |
| 21:23.32 | DrodoEmpire | Their terrain's quite flat too |
| 21:23.39 | Xho | DrodoEmpire: Kurwa Empire Population: 1 Ball |
| 21:23.44 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
| 21:24.42 | Hachiman | I did consider a Frankish nation at some point in the northwest Polar Lands |
| 21:24.53 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 21:25.00 | Xho | So the Dalmiric culture don't look too far off Native Americans ethnically and they'd operate similarly to the Mongols in terms of military assets |
| 21:25.03 | DrodoEmpire | I like that, quite frankly |
| 21:25.04 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 21:25.08 | Hachiman | >frankly |
| 21:25.16 | Xho | Although the Dalmiric people have/had a very strong naval force |
| 21:25.40 | Hachiman | Not sure how exactly I would emulate the Frankish though as my knowledge of them is somewhat sparing |
| 21:25.54 | DrodoEmpire | I'd look up a lot on Charlemagne and the like |
| 21:25.59 | DrodoEmpire | It could be pretty cool |
| 21:26.20 | Monet_2 | Xho: I can imagine what they use as mounts will be a) large and b) powerfully-built. |
| 21:26.30 | DrodoEmpire | Actually ni |
| 21:26.32 | Xho | >dalmiric lungsharks because fuck you |
| 21:26.32 | DrodoEmpire | *no |
| 21:26.35 | Hachiman | Talmyr is Xholand so yes |
| 21:26.47 | DrodoEmpire | Horse archers usually preferred smaller mounts |
| 21:26.52 | Monet_2 | Okay maybe "powerfully built" is the wrong term. |
| 21:27.05 | DrodoEmpire | Very quick little things |
| 21:27.09 | Xho | Well considering everything grows larger and nastier in Talmyr because of an underlying presence of a Simulacrum, probably not a horse |
| 21:27.15 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 21:27.21 | Monet_2 | But colder climates tend to produce larger varieties of animal. |
| 21:27.27 | Xho | Bear |
| 21:27.32 | Xho | Mhor - i find that offensive |
| 21:27.53 | Xho | A bear mount is probably not the best thing |
| 21:28.22 | Monet_2 | Bears are better built for sprinting than a marathon when it comes to travelling fast. |
| 21:28.34 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... |
| 21:28.51 | DrodoEmpire | The creature for horse archery would probably be medium-small, fast, and has endurance |
| 21:29.09 | Monet_2 | They could have their own versions of direwolves |
| 21:29.20 | Monet_2 | Mutated super-angry horse sized wolves. |
| 21:29.24 | Xho | Direwolves are almost extinct in Koldenwelt as far as I can tell |
| 21:29.25 | Hachiman | Could use boars |
| 21:29.31 | Hachiman | Mannazians use direwolves |
| 21:29.33 | Xho | oh |
| 21:29.39 | Xho | Dalmiric Direwolves because fuck you |
| 21:29.49 | Hachiman | The Khargrim dwarves use boar mounts |
| 21:29.50 | Xho | That would be a big ass wolf |
| 21:29.56 | DrodoEmpire | Too slow and you get a sabre in your back, not enough endurance, you still get a sabre in your back, just takes a bit longer |
| 21:30.04 | Monet_2 | Xho: The magic of Talmyr perhaps |
| 21:30.11 | DrodoEmpire | Too big and then you look a wee silly <.< |
| 21:30.27 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: Tell that to the war elephant riders hur |
| 21:30.38 | DrodoEmpire | Eh, but they aren't skirmishers |
| 21:31.15 | DrodoEmpire | They're "I'll fuck up everything a half-mile in front of me" |
| 21:31.52 | Xho | Dire wolves would work I guess |
| 21:32.28 | Xho | Just how big is a Koldenweltian dire wolf then |
| 21:34.18 | Hachiman | Probably ranges |
| 21:34.38 | Hachiman | Mannazian direwolves are probably somewhere around the shoulder-height of horses |
| 21:35.55 | Xho | egad |
| 21:36.25 | Tek0516 | That f***ing b****. My sister dumped a bag of garbage in my room, threw chairs on my bed and broke my lamp. |
| 21:36.54 | Hachiman | kill the ho |
| 21:37.01 | Xho | Sacrifice her to |
| 21:37.02 | DrodoEmpire | Wh-Why? o.O |
| 21:37.02 | Xho | hm |
| 21:37.06 | Xho | Which devil today |
| 21:37.21 | Hachiman | Trump |
| 21:37.24 | Xho | aight |
| 21:37.33 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: Damned if I know. I just got back from home. |
| 21:37.43 | DrodoEmpire | Jeez... |
| 21:37.45 | Tek0516 | She also left a bunch of dishes in my roon |
| 21:37.47 | Xho | Oh great now I'm getting the picture of a Dalmiric dire wolf being the size of a horse |
| 21:37.59 | Xho | dat big woof |
| 21:38.12 | Monet_2 | Beat u to it :> |
| 21:38.16 | Xho | Oh and probably hairless |
| 21:38.28 | Hachiman | Mannazian direwolves would definitely have fur |
| 21:38.33 | Hachiman | Cus Polar Lands is fucking cold |
| 21:38.39 | Xho | Dalmiric - scrub |
| 21:38.40 | Monet_2 | Xho: Okay now that is worse |
| 21:40.54 | Monet_2 | Big angry pink woof. |
| 21:41.48 | Xho | pink |
| 21:42.00 | Xho | Probably dark blueue |
| 21:42.02 | Xho | egad |
| 21:42.03 | Xho | blue |
| 21:42.36 | Xho | Actually makes me wonder what kind of physical effects the Dalmiric darkness has on the Dalmiric humans |
| 21:42.56 | Xho | If they're humans then they probably have some physical and or mental thing going on |
| 21:45.35 | Hachiman | Yeah, humans tend to develop weird side effects when exposed to magic |
| 21:46.25 | Hachiman | Alfgund was turning into a statue, Inquisitor Nikolai was blind |
| 21:46.41 | Monet_2 | Xho: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=774565170 No love for Trevor |
| 21:47.12 | Xho | kek |
| 21:47.46 | Xho | Actually considering the Goddess of Nightmares slept under Talmyr, perhaps Dalmiric people are all insomniacs |
| 21:48.03 | Tek0516 | Apparently I also use too nuch bandwidth and should basically just stop using our internet. |
| 21:48.09 | Monet_2 | "Wen u so ugly a girl sees you she somersaults off a pier" |
| 21:48.47 | Xho | As for physical effects, well |
| 21:49.16 | Xho | Dalmiric people live long and are larger than most normal humans but their skin colour is probably more sullen than most humans |
| 21:49.22 | Technobliterator | http://rall.com/comic/trump-grab-pussy-hitler |
| 21:49.27 | Hachiman | Bags under the eyes, unnatural eye colour, body markings, that kinda thing I imagine would suit dark magic mutation |
| 21:49.37 | Hachiman | Also that which is somewhat more extreme |
| 21:50.07 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: >tfw Hitler had more respect for women than Trump does |
| 21:50.19 | Technobliterator | haha yeah |
| 21:50.58 | Xho | Then you have Khaadun's people which are really weird |
| 21:53.16 | ImpyDroid | Well |
| 21:53.30 | ImpyDroid | Triumph of Will was directed by a woman |
| 21:53.38 | ImpyDroid | Hitler had some respect for women I suppose |
| 21:53.42 | ImpyDroid | UNLIKE TRUMP |
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| 23:15.45 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 23:18.38 | Wormy_ | I love Deutch's idiosyncratic tweets, they need mulling over https://twitter.com/DavidDeutschOxf/status/783013707676868608 https://twitter.com/DavidDeutschOxf/status/787038729194074112 https://twitter.com/DavidDeutschOxf/status/786533760636301314 https://twitter.com/DavidDeutschOxf/status/785475567936278534 https://twitter.com/DavidDeutschOxf/status/778015225425584132 |
| 23:20.32 | Wormy_ | iconoclastic is the word, nevermind |
| 23:46.31 | Wormy_ | no vinegar, salt or sauces, wtf http://i.imgur.com/gwEhiuj.jpg |
| 23:46.56 | DrodoEmpire | wat |
| 23:47.50 | Wormy_ | big pile of plain fries, no good without condiments imo |
| 23:48.02 | Wormy_ | I prefer real chips anyway |
| 23:48.09 | DrodoEmpire | I like a bit of ketchup on the side |
| 23:48.18 | DrodoEmpire | And yeah, homemade fries are the best |
| 23:48.47 | DrodoEmpire | Presoaked in water and double-fried |
| 23:48.58 | Wormy_ | This is great with mushy peas and lots of vinegar https://hillaryshort.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/fishandchips.jpg |
| 23:49.14 | DrodoEmpire | Ohhh I *love* fish and chips |
| 23:49.20 | Wormy_ | British chips tend to be a mextuire of soft and craspy |
| 23:49.29 | Wormy_ | *crispy |
| 23:49.31 | DrodoEmpire | Pretty popular here in Canada too, especially that style of fish and chips |
| 23:49.54 | Wormy_ | I hear you lot have them, as do Autstralians |
| 23:49.59 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 23:50.17 | Wormy_ | In the North of England we ted to have mushy peas and/or gravy as well |
| 23:50.21 | Wormy_ | *tend |
| 23:50.27 | DrodoEmpire | Aw shit now I just realised how hungry I am >.< |
| 23:50.41 | DrodoEmpire | (Common condiments here are ketchup and tartar sauce) |
| 23:50.51 | DrodoEmpire | (I wonder how donair sauce would work) |
| 23:51.13 | Wormy_ | (tartar sauce is usually available but the least taken option, its usually ketchup or mayonaise) |
| 23:51.50 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 23:51.54 | Wormy_ | (anything to do with doner kebab?) |
| 23:51.59 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 23:52.16 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, donairs are a Nova Scotian dish, I believe the inventor was indeed a Turkish man in Halifax |
| 23:52.18 | Wormy_ | I went out for a pub crawl tonight and had chips |
| 23:52.30 | Wormy_ | I see |
| 23:52.41 | DrodoEmpire | Donair sauce is a creamy, sweet, white sauce put on donairs |
| 23:52.49 | DrodoEmpire | But is also often used here for pizza and other stuff |
| 23:53.07 | Wormy_ | I see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doner_kebab#Canada |
| 23:53.16 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.cbc.ca/1.3276455.1445381087!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/donair.jpg |
| 23:53.19 | Wormy_ | never had it |
| 23:53.46 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah they're delicious when made right |
| 23:53.48 | Wormy_ | Looks a bit like garlic sauce in appearence |
| 23:53.53 | DrodoEmpire | My family makes them every once and a while |
| 23:54.02 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah though its much thicker and sweeter |
| 23:54.07 | DrodoEmpire | Not garlicish |
| 23:54.37 | DrodoEmpire | (Though, donairs also make an *extremely* heavy meal, so I can only have one every once and a while before I get sick of them <.<) |
| 23:55.15 | Wormy_ | What's the flavour like? |
| 23:55.17 | DrodoEmpire | But yeah if you ever do by chance come to Canada for a trip or something, go to NS at least for the donairs |
| 23:55.20 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm |
| 23:55.45 | Monet_2 | goodnight |
| 23:55.50 | Wormy_ | If you want to try mushy peas with your chips have a crack at this its dead simple http://allrecipes.co.uk/recipe/1925/mushy-peas.aspx |
| 23:56.06 | DrodoEmpire | Well the meat's soft, very very savoury, the bread is thick though not dense, vegetables are cold-cut, and the sauce is also cold |
| 23:56.13 | DrodoEmpire | I'd describe as rich |
| 23:56.20 | Wormy_ | Its a real Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire thing not even popular throughout the whole country |
| 23:56.33 | DrodoEmpire | ooh |
| 23:57.02 | DrodoEmpire | The veggies on a donair are things like tomatoes and bell peppers, sometimes onion |
| 23:57.17 | DrodoEmpire | Donairs are also very messy |
| 23:57.25 | DrodoEmpire | *Very* messy >.< |
| 23:58.00 | Wormy_ | lol |
| 23:58.44 | DrodoEmpire | But yeah there's a lot going on in a good donair, so its definitely something you should at least try |
| 23:59.08 | DrodoEmpire | Though, I do know that you're a vegetarian, and donairs are like 70% meat |
| 23:59.10 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
