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00:49.23Monet_2I just saw some news for anyone possibly interested in EVE withotu spending money for it
00:50.12Wormy_I saw
00:50.30Wormy_but bad idea for me to play during my masters
00:50.34Wormy_goodnight
00:51.40DrodoEmpireMonet_2: Oh?
00:53.25Monet_2DrodoEmpire: Basically you can play as an 'Alpha' clone. In-universe they're lower-budget capsuleer clones.
00:53.37DrodoEmpireHuh
00:53.46DrodoEmpireWhat does this entail gameplay-wise?
00:54.13Monet_2A few restrictions in the more advanced skills a player can learn.
00:55.09DrodoEmpireAH
00:55.12DrodoEmpire*Ah
00:55.22Monet_2The skills an Alpha can learn are also tied to the race.
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00:56.27Monet_2For instance, a Gallente Alpha has better starting skills in drone warfare than a Minmatar Alpha
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02:09.37DrodoEmpireBack >.<
02:09.41DrodoEmpirePower outage
02:10.01DrodoEmpireDamn near half the province has gone dark, but my town's more or less back online
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15:10.46Cyrannianhttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/6f/NewRepublicMap.png/revision/latest?cb=20161011151027 - take a look
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15:24.08dino82_nice new map
15:27.19Charles_BotHey
15:30.29dino82_hi
15:31.40dino82_how are you doing
15:32.15TreebeardI am well
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16:10.31ImperiosCharles_Bot: http://wowlol.ru/img4/eed92bb0132d49c6af2ef090d50d2c0b.jpg
16:10.58Charles_BotWat
16:12.31HachimanSeagull'dan
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16:50.48ImperiosSomeone beep me once Drodo comes
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16:52.58NeonPandahi all
16:53.04MonetHi
16:53.06TreebeardHello
16:53.48The_RandomnessHello
17:43.36MonetI'm tempted to write up a page on the position of paragavatus. Any possible suggestions for an opening quote? (doesn't have to be from anyone established)
17:47.14ImperiosMonet: "Every mountain has a pinnacle." - Lord Aestatus Vation
17:47.35ImperiosBTW, if you are going to write about it
17:47.47ImperiosPlease write up on the post's history
17:48.15MonetYeah it's probably worth explaining how a monarchy returned to Draconid society.
17:48.18ImperiosThe literal meaning of the title kind of makes me think that the Draconid Imperium was originally something of a confederation
17:49.02ImperiosOr was the post in the modern DI named after some ancient Alcantian title?
17:49.37HachimanImperios: Overwatch has gone spooky
17:49.43HachimanAnd Mercy has a new witch skin
17:49.50ImperiosNow that's good
17:49.52HachimanIncidentally I bought her succubus skin earlier
17:50.08ImperiosThe reason I wonder is how the term "king of kings" was used in Persia/Iran
17:50.41ImperiosIn the Achaemenid Empire it was quite literal, shahanshahs presided over local dynasties
17:51.29ImperiosHowever by the end of Persian monarchy in the 20th century it was mostly just a formality and the "king of kings" did not have any "kings" he ruled over
17:51.35ImperiosJust local ministers and governors
17:52.34MonetWell the original Imperial aristocracy consisted of a corporate oligarchy - the first nobles were presidents, chancellors and CEOs of the various states of the Alcanti SOlar Confederacy.
17:53.06ImperiosThat is kind of interesting
17:54.16Monet"path-bearer [of] lord-above-men" this is the title when broken into a literal translation.
17:57.14ImperiosHachiman: https://2ch.hk/po/src/18715896/14762085776410.webm
17:57.27Monet"king of kings" is probably the corruption as 'avatus' was the term for kings in Alcanwas, Minosis especially
17:58.11MonetCome to think of it, Maybe "paragavatus" is a modification/adaptation of "high king" - the title of the emperors of the Minosian Empire.
17:58.28HachimanImperios: Catchy
17:58.29ImperiosWell, high king has similar connotations
17:59.50MonetIt does
18:02.30MonetAlthough for the ancient Draconis, "high king" might have been the more brutal title given how aggressive the Draconis were in the past.
18:04.16Charles_BotOh wow
18:05.10Charles_BotI take my eyes off of Britain to focus on the US dumpster fire (er, I mean, election), and on Syria and the US-Russian relationship
18:05.27Charles_BotI look back, and Theresa May is declaring war on flexible citizenship
18:06.33ImperiosCharles_Bot: >dumpster fire
18:06.41ImperiosLet us use correct terminology
18:06.49ImperiosThe proper term is turd sandwich versus giant douceh
18:06.50Imperiosdouche
18:07.23MonetOh no this is a genuine fire.
18:07.41Charles_BotHey, I like Clinton and am genuinely excited to see her become president. Just want you to know.
18:08.14MonetLately Trump's been getting aggressive at ex-supporters and Republicans who don't like him.
18:09.20Charles_BotI was just referring to how much of a structural and narrative disaster this election has become
18:12.51HachimanCharles hasn't seen the emails
18:12.58HachimanThen again, after she deleted them, who has
18:13.51Charles_Bot?
18:14.09MonetGiven Charles is studying international relations at university, he probably knows more about Clinton's activities than any of us.
18:14.39ImperiosYes but California
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18:15.37ImperiosI dunno, Clinton might look good compared to Trump but she's not *good* on her own
18:15.55ImperiosOr maybe that's just me not liking her treatment of Russia
18:16.12Charles_BotShe is very tough on Russia xD
18:16.25MonetCharles_Bot: Impy's concern exactly.
18:17.17ImperiosSee, she's a militarist
18:17.26Charles_Bot...
18:17.29Charles_BotUh
18:17.30Charles_BotNo
18:17.57ImperiosWell, compared to her predecessor at the very least
18:18.02ImperiosFRom what I see, she's Bush-level
18:19.10MonetFar from it.
18:19.57MonetAside from Russia, CLinton looks set to continue what Obama started regarding America's international reputation.
18:20.05Charles_BotA militarist argues for militarization, the turning of the peacetime state and economy into an engine whose exclusive and singular purpose is the waging of war. This could be defensively against a foreign threat, or offensively to recover or attain national power, prestige, etc
18:20.20Charles_BotThat is not Clinton >.<
18:21.44HachimanImperios: I've noticed that we don't really have any white witches in the Koldenwelt setting right now, but could light magic be used to conjure necromancy in the same manner as dark magic?
18:22.05HachimanIf it could, what would the differences be?
18:22.08ImperiosAlright, not a mkilitarist per se, but a hawk
18:22.44Charles_BotClinton's foreign policy as articulated on the campaign trail is actually less muscular and more multilateralist than Trump's, which amounts to "we need to BOMB ISIS, we need to get countries to pay the United States to protect them, to engage in trade wars with countries who are supposedly taking advantage of the US, etc"
18:24.08MonetTrump makes Dick Cheney sounds like a limp-wristed pussy.
18:24.34Charles_BotA hawk is a popular term for a politician who reaches for military tools, solutions, and analyses before all else. I believe that's what you mean?
18:26.13MonetI think that's part of the dumpster fire; everyone this election season is calling each other names.
18:27.03ImperiosOkay, to be honest I am not exactly vying for America's best interests XD
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18:28.58Charles_BotOne of the big problems with HRC is that she is very, very bad at articulating what she believes and what her personal style is. She lists off policy positions in such a way that feels canned, without actually filling the in-betweens which would allow her to present a clear, overarching, and convincing character and leadership style
18:31.12MonetThat's where a lot of the public issue lies.
18:31.33Charles_BotSo, effectively, her political rivals have jumped in to fill the blanks, to turn this highly complex, secretive, and contradictory figure into easily digestible caricatures, as a war hawk, a corrupt Wall Street sympathizer, a criminal who games the political system for her own political gain a la mafia, the list goes on
18:31.38MonetWe don't get what kind of person she is going ot be in office, so we make our own assumptions.
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18:33.08ImperiosExactly, secretive
18:33.16ImperiosAt least Hairwall's madness is obvious
18:33.18ImperiosHi Oluap
18:34.05OluapPlayerhi
18:34.17MonetBut he is the opposite which only enhances her muddy image: He's clear-cut to the point of intentional caricature.
18:34.50MonetHe may as well have escaped from Toon-Town.
18:35.06Xhoack
18:35.25CyrannianHai
18:37.12Charles_BotSecretive not because she has anything to hide >.< Her behavior and her relationship to the press points not to a conspiracy, but to deep misgivings towards the dissemination of information to the public. She's been in politics for 30 years, and over those 30 years she's been through scandal after scandal, and every time she's opened up even a little and
18:37.12Charles_Botbeen honest with the press, they used her genuine statements to ridicule her
18:37.20HachimanCan I request that we take the Trump - Hillary US politics thing to #offtopic
18:37.26Charles_BotK
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18:38.20Charles_BotYou coming, impy?
18:38.41ImperiosaNot working for some reason
18:38.49Charles_Murray#sporewiki-offtopic
18:39.00Charles_Murray^ That's the one
18:40.52XhoHm what to do
18:42.40Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Black_Orc.png So I decided to make my own orcs
18:42.50HachimanSpecifically, the black orcs that raised Khadya and worship Alar'xashan
18:43.11XhoQuestion
18:43.17HachimanGo on
18:43.18XhoWhat version of Dark Injection are you using
18:43.28HachimanHow do I check
18:43.32Xhodunnolol
18:43.41HachimanOluapPlayer: halp
18:43.46XhoI can't find the hair parts on my game
18:43.50XhoAnd it BOTHERS ME
18:44.06OluapPlayerCheck your DI's filename
18:44.15HachimanWhere do I find the file
18:44.21OluapPlayerFucking hell
18:44.24Xho>black orc           Shiarchon - well at least that detracts racial prejudice lul
18:44.26ImperiosHachiman: Puny itty bitty orcs
18:44.37HachimanThey only look puny because of the picture size
18:44.40XhoImperios: Did you see Servius' new model
18:44.52MonetXho: Planning a page on the title of paragon. Any possible ideas for an opening quote?
18:44.53ImperiosAnd then the black orcs, the Khorloron, and the Khoyan'xa band up and form an alliance called the All-Blacks
18:45.00XhoMonet: paragon wut
18:45.02HachimanBlack Lives Matter
18:45.13HachimanThey're a little taller and broader than humans in reality
18:45.14OluapPlayerSteam/steamapps/common/Spore/DataEP1
18:45.31MonetXho: the DI head of state kind of paragon.
18:45.40XhoJust a generic page for paragon
18:45.51XhoImperios: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/64/PraetorServius2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20161010220405
18:45.51Hachiman2013 version of DI
18:46.10ImperiosXho: Red vader
18:46.20OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Finkrath I've made this
18:46.23MonetXho: Yeah. I think it sort of deserves a page as one of the most internationally-known monarchies in the gigaquadrant.
18:46.28Cyrannianbah I can't find the png of Apolithanatár
18:46.47HachimanAh yeah, I'll quote that now
18:46.48XhoOluapPlayer: read the page          still top dragon bastard
18:47.00XhoMonet: Can't think of anything I could add really
18:47.52ImperiosOluapPlayer: >Nefarian
18:47.59ImperiosFinkrath needs a Maloriak!
18:48.17OluapPlayerwut dat
18:48.45XhoI did have an idea for a Fantasyverse character, basically an MC for Asv-Aldz
18:48.47XhoSo a demon really
18:49.29XhoNot the hip-hop kind, a master of ceremonies in Asv-Aldz' crazy court of crazies
18:49.38HachimanI was about to say
18:49.57ImperiosOluapPlayer: Have you seen Blackwing Descent yet?
18:50.08OluapPlayerNope
18:50.30OluapPlayerI know Nefarian and Onyxia are involved, but not anything else
18:51.14Xho"Love this time of year when the nights are drawing in, there's a chill in the air & the whole family gathers round a roaring Galaxy Note 7"
18:51.15Xhokek
18:51.36MonetLol
18:53.01XhoDunno what to call this demonic character though
18:53.19XhoProbably a diminutive name
18:53.46HachimanMC Hammer
18:53.56Xhowell done
18:54.20HachimanEmsee / Emsy Hama
18:54.48Xholiturly stahp
18:55.26ImperiosXho: Malleus
18:55.35Xholiturly stahp 2.0
18:55.57ImperiosMartellulus
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18:55.59Groxkiller98Hai.
18:58.09Xhoack
19:01.03XhoBishu might be a name
19:01.11XhoIt sounds funny but it's Akkadian for malicious
19:02.24Groxkiller98Hm.
19:02.30Groxkiller98What's it going to be for?
19:10.50XhoFantasyverse
19:15.20Groxkiller98Fair enough.
19:15.22OluapPlayerImperios: you didn't explain what Maloriak is
19:16.02ImperiosOluapPlayer: You'll see
19:16.13ImperiosYou're still watching old raids right?
19:17.52OluapPlayerI've not for a few days
19:18.12OluapPlayerI watched some of Siege of Orgrimmar yesterday but it was like 4 hours long
19:18.13Groxkiller98Does anyone know how to increase the resolution of a Spore screenshot?
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19:19.34OluapPlayerI also spent the last few hours remaking my dorf warrior. While I was killing troggs a level 110 night elf flew in riding a bronze drake, mined some tin and immediately left
19:19.44OluapPlayerWas an unexpected sight
19:20.49DrodoEmpireHi everyone
19:21.14Groxkiller98Heya.
19:23.44OluapPlayerImperios: I assume I'll not have access to any impressive mounts while I'm stuck at level 20
19:24.11ImperiosI think not
19:25.02OluapPlayerfu
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19:25.11OluapPlayerthis pleb life is suffering
19:26.43TybusenHello
19:27.58Tek0516http://imgur.com/a/ZjEN7 Well that's a rather extreme case of programmer exploitation
19:28.50OluapPlayerImperios: I just came across a picture of Ragnaros with legs. It doesn't feel right
19:28.56ImperiosTybusen: We are discussing Shillary and Wallhair
19:29.01Imperios#sporewiki-offtopic
19:29.50DrodoEmpirehttp://i.imgur.com/izzpeRb.jpg
19:30.00OluapPlayerI didn't even know he had legs under that fire whirlwind
19:30.40ImperiosThey only appear in one phase and only on Heroic difficulty, in Firelands
19:30.53ImperiosIt is his final form basically
19:31.10OluapPlayerYou gotta be in hard mode to see his legs
19:31.12OluapPlayersolid
19:32.02OluapPlayerI remember the first time I saw a picture of Ragnaros and I thought "that's fucking awesome"
19:32.06OluapPlayerThat's not really changed hur
19:32.25MonetHis legs seem underdeveloped.
19:32.29Groxkiller98XD
19:32.44Groxkiller98Rag is awesome.
19:33.08Tek0516DrodoEmpire: Rights of Man is out for EU4!
19:33.10OluapPlayerHe skipped leg day
19:33.23DrodoEmpireheyyy
19:33.24DrodoEmpireNice
19:33.33MonetThey're like...not even his
19:33.39Tek0516$22 in Canada though
19:33.49Groxkiller98Neltharion is the best WoW character though.
19:33.54MonetCouldn't they at least give him some giant stompy fireboots?
19:34.23Groxkiller98He's made of fire. He doesn't need them.
19:34.36OluapPlayerLike most of the setting he suffers from giant pauldron syndrome
19:34.40MonetHe's made of fire but still wears armour.
19:34.44OluapPlayerThat makes his legs look tiny in comparison
19:35.04MonetHe looks like he has baby-feet due to those gigantic pauldrons.
19:35.20Groxkiller98Blizz has always had that issue.
19:35.36Groxkiller98And floating-pauldron syndrome, too..
19:36.03Groxkiller98Same with shields now that I think about it,
19:36.53MonetOluapPlayer: http://i56.tinypic.com/jkglg5.jpg
19:37.24OluapPlayerRagnaros the imp
19:38.25Monethttp://i51.tinypic.com/2ia9312.jpg well they did kind of listen
19:38.55OluapPlayer"I AM MY OWN FLYING MOUNT"
19:39.09ImperiosI just realised
19:39.19Imperiosthe first model of Ragnaros with legs looks like a Space Marine
19:40.02OluapPlayerVulkan really let himself go
19:40.42Imperioshttps://educatinglotus.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/toa-therazane-the-stonemother-deepholm-9-13-12.png Okay, admittedly he is not the only elemental with legs
19:41.10OluapPlayerTherazane is worse since she has giant saggy rock boobs
19:41.30OluapPlayerBetween them I'd stick with Ragnaros's legs
19:43.47Hachiman>big tits
19:43.48Hachimannoice
19:43.56OluapPlayerfat chaser
19:44.09Hachimanu never heard of bbw
19:44.25OluapPlayerno         fat chaser
19:44.43MonetI think Therazane was meant to be uncomfortable to look at.
19:44.51MonetShe was one of the Old Gods' generals.
19:45.04OluapPlayerSo was all the others
19:45.46MonetYeah but Therazane had a solid design.
19:45.49OluapPlayerI'll say I'm aware of her body shape resembling the typical "fertility goddess statue" thing
19:45.54OluapPlayerbut she's still a fat bitch hur
19:46.09MonetRagnaros' legs just look tacked on.
19:46.13ImperiosTherazane is kind of cool
19:46.16ImperiosI dunno I like her
19:46.24ImperiosShe's like so chill
19:46.25OluapPlayerI don't know her role in the game
19:47.10MonetShe was the earth elemental general.
19:47.21OluapPlayerI know who she is
19:47.28OluapPlayerI don't know what she does in WoW
19:47.35MonetMy bad
19:48.22OluapPlayerI know Ragnaros and the wind lord die in Cataclysm
19:48.33OluapPlayerBut I don't know what she and the water guy do in the meantime
19:49.38ImperiosI think they appear in the shaman storyline in Legion
19:50.09ImperiosOr do you mean what they do in Cata
19:50.16OluapPlayerIn general
19:50.41ImperiosTherazane is a reluctant ally against Deathwing
19:51.00ImperiosNeptulon is also trying to help but he's getting fucked up in one of the dungeon
19:51.01Imperioss
19:51.13ImperiosHe was supposed to have a storyline but it was scrapped
19:51.33OluapPlayerAh
19:51.59OluapPlayerI'd have expected them to be Deathwing's servants since they're all Old God-related
19:52.35ImperiosElementals are more or less pressured to serve the Old Gods
19:52.44ImperiosSome go along with it others don't
19:53.03OluapPlayerRight
19:53.09ImperiosThey are related in that they serve them, some of them at least, but elementals are not of the same origin as the Old Gods no
19:53.22ImperiosElementals are native to the planet, the Old Gods are Void-related
19:53.25OluapPlayerI presumed they were slaves since the Old Gods aren't even elemental in natures
19:53.29ImperiosLike very big voidwalkers
19:53.33OluapPlayer*nature
19:55.22ImperiosThere is a quest in Cata where you disrupt the Twilight's Hammer's operation
19:55.40ImperiosYou use magic to disrupt their control over elementals
19:55.53ImperiosThey turn on their masters immediately and fucking slaughter them, then return to their planes
19:56.14OluapPlayerThat's Cho'gall's faction isn't it?
19:56.41ImperiosYeah his
19:56.57OluapPlayerI only know a little about Cho'gall but I hear he's important
19:57.38ImperiosHe's like the Pope of all Old God worshippers
19:58.32OluapPlayerpretty important then
20:01.51OluapPlayerI'm dumb about all this but you gotta understand I stopped keeping track of WoW back when Black Crusade came out hur
20:04.16ImperiosBurning Crusade
20:04.23ImperiosBlack Crusade is what Abbadon is doing
20:04.45OluapPlayerI got the two War-'s mixed
20:04.53OluapPlayerwow I feel embarrassed for that one
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20:05.28LuxorAye
20:06.13Imperiosannexes Luxor
20:06.13ImperiosHi
20:06.45LuxorRoM was released today, dlc for eu4 if someone isn't aware about that.
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20:06.57Wormy_hi
20:07.17LuxorThere's a ruler trait called 'obsesive perfectionist' which causes AI to 'want' clean borders
20:07.21LuxorAy wormy
20:07.58Wormy_Hachiman, Monet, Xho, Technobliterator:  The Dyatlov Pass Incident just started on Horror.  Don't know if its any good
20:08.08XhoDunno myself
20:08.13XhoNot big on horror films
20:08.41DrodoEmpireluxor: Really
20:08.41Xhohttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/29/Bishu2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20161011200815 Also, made Bishu
20:08.44DrodoEmpire?
20:08.46DrodoEmpireXD
20:08.48LuxorYes!
20:08.58DrodoEmpirewooow lol
20:09.06LuxorAI actually tends to make bordergore
20:09.12Luxortry playing non-european nation
20:09.19Luxorwait for Europe being revealed
20:09.22Luxor>???
20:09.23Luxor>Profit
20:09.28DrodoEmpireYeah
20:09.29DrodoEmpire>.<
20:10.00Luxorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdCFTF8j7yI&feature=youtu.be
20:10.15Luxor^ = Starcitizen gameplay video
20:10.27LuxorWe need to make them build Spore 2
20:10.42XhoHachiman OluapPalyer Imperios: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/29/Bishu2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20161011200815 deemun
20:10.51XhoOluap is now a palyer
20:10.54Xhowhatever the fuck that is
20:11.05OluapPlayerbishi
20:11.10XhoOluapBishi
20:11.11Xhosorted
20:11.18OluapPlayergross
20:11.20Xhou
20:12.19LuxorI can't decide whether to play as kebab in RoM on Friday or to continue working on URN which remained untouched for almost a month
20:12.22LuxorHalp pls
20:13.33XhoBishu is basically Santorakh's personality in a demon
20:13.38XhoLuxor: no clue lol
20:13.50LuxorI actually planned whole RP
20:14.00LuxorI called it 'Magnificent Century'
20:14.10LuxorBut I should really finish URN :<
20:17.03ImperiosLuxor channels his inner Reich again
20:17.09ImperiosOh wait nvm
20:17.15ImperiosRead that wrong
20:25.23Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Bishu Probably all I can write for the time being
20:27.20OluapPlayerhe sounds like a dick               very expected
20:27.31XhoWell he's a demon
20:27.34XhoOf course he's a dick
20:28.07XhoEspecially since his god is the Simulacrum of Treachery
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20:32.33ImperiosXho: Bishu, literaly Bishonen
20:33.14CyrannianVery impressive model
20:35.47XhoImperios: like i guv a fuk
20:44.16Tek0516F*** I swear the people above us must constantly wear boots and jump on a trampoline.
20:47.56TybusenI've just been watching Michael Rosen reading his poems for the past half hour or so
20:48.04TybusenHis voice is strangely calming
20:57.40Tek0516Hm... Who should I play for the new EU4 patch?
20:58.43TybusenAztecs
20:59.31XhoXIMICACAN
21:00.08Tybusenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgxdEqoVQxU
21:04.03ImperiosOluapPlayer: BTW did you like SoO?
21:04.28Charles_MacMy favorite theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5oO6wBrp8s
21:07.34OluapPlayerImperios: It seems interesting from what I watched
21:07.58OluapPlayerI got up to a part where you fight some sort of giant robot scorpion
21:10.38ImperiosXho OluapPlayer: Do we have symbols for Sims other than Zran Kar?
21:10.48ImperiosOluapPlayer: You can actually ride him as a mount
21:10.55OluapPlayerwow
21:10.58OluapPlayerAnd no I don't
21:11.29OluapPlayerThough I imagine Mortium being associated with bells
21:11.31ImperiosI just thought it'd be interesting if each Sim had a simple symbol that cultures worshipping them could use in their art and such
21:11.34TybusenImperios: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/sims/images/d/da/TS4_Logo_Plumbob.jpg.png/revision/latest?cb=20130805025749
21:11.58ImperiosLike Zran has this Lorraine/Orthodox cross thing
21:11.59XhoNalashtannylor and Caligaduro do
21:12.11ImperiosI can totally imagine vampires loyal to Zran waving banners with this cross
21:12.34ImperiosTybusen: Well lozenges as symbols are a thing in vexillology
21:12.37ImperiosBrazil has it
21:12.41OluapPlayerI've shown a banner with the cross in Red Harmony
21:12.49OluapPlayerAgain I can see Mortium's symbol being a bell
21:12.54Imperiosright
21:13.04TybusenImperios: that's literally just a Sim symbol
21:13.08ImperiosTybusen: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Flag_of_Empire_of_Brazil_%281822-1870%29.svg c
21:13.15ImperiosBrazil has been into Sims
21:13.18ImperiosFor years
21:13.34Tybusenillusimnati?
21:13.40OluapPlayerVargash's is probably an eye since all of his physical forms are associated with eyes
21:13.46Imperiosright
21:14.03ImperiosXho: What is Caligaduro's symbol?
21:14.08ImperiosIt's not an ubercomplicated one right
21:14.24Xhohttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/da/CaligaduroDarkSigil.png/revision/latest?cb=20150614112652 Of course it is
21:14.56ImperiosDon't mean to offend but one thing about your emblems I am not a fan of is how complicated they are
21:15.00ImperiosLike the Shiarchon emblem
21:15.20ImperiosLike do they have to redraw that sigil thing every time when they need to make a flag or something
21:15.20XhoIt's symbolism from another dimension
21:15.26ImperiosYeah but it's hard to draw
21:15.30MonetI'm no vexologist but I think that could be considered intricate, but elementally simple.
21:15.31XhoLike I give a fuck
21:15.52ImperiosI can imagine Shiarchon spending half a day sewing their flags
21:16.18MonetAs a distant silhouette it becomes fairly simple.
21:16.23XhoMost of their emblems are crafted via metallurgy
21:16.28TechnobliteratorSorry for not doing much on the Borealis War :| I've been super busy this past couple weeks
21:16.33TechnobliteratorHopefully soon I can get back to that
21:16.34ImperiosTHat makes it a bit more sensible
21:16.46XhoWho are you to say whether it's sensible or not
21:17.09MonetTwo rings, one circle, four gaps one each at the cardinal points.
21:17.14OluapPlayerWhy so peeved, he just asked you a question
21:17.27XhoIt's not a question worth asking or answering
21:17.43ImperiosWell casting a sigil from metal using a prepared mold is easier than drawing a sigil
21:17.50ImperiosIf it is a complicated one
21:18.49XhoShiarchon should be able to cast sigils into being via magic anyway
21:18.54XhoLike a branding
21:19.13Imperiosright
21:19.31XhoThat being said there is a torture device they have that physically brands ritualistic shit onto a victim as marking of a sacrificial offering
21:19.32Charles_MacImperios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IptPXxtWrEQ
21:19.46ImperiosSome nations have complex ornaments on their flags and emblems
21:19.48Charles_MacI can't wait for Russia in Civ VI
21:19.50Imperioshttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Flag_of_Turkmenistan.svg Turkemsn for example
21:20.01TechnobliteratorI am hyped for Civ VI
21:20.05ImperiosCharles_Mac: RUSSIA WILL GROW LARGER
21:20.09Technobliteratoroh, Xho, next Borealis War bit needs you
21:20.13Xhoright
21:20.23Charles_MacHonestly I love playing Russia in any game
21:20.25TechnobliteratorDeath!Kitoruka attacks Grenzaar, BOSS FIGHT AT MAX DIFFICULTY is what we've got for the next bit
21:20.28ImperiosXho: It literally has a carpet for a flag
21:20.34TechnobliteratorCan do this whenever you're free, I think
21:20.52ImperiosOr rather a flag lined with tiny carpets
21:23.35ImperiosXho: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/23/Flag_of_the_North_Caucasian_Emirate.svg Best flag though
21:23.44Xhojust why
21:24.49Monet"We will use the crescent moon of Islam. But how do we make our nation seem friendly?" "How about we make it into a smiley-face?"
21:25.22ImperiosFunny thing this Caucasian Emirate is still around
21:25.32ImperiosExcept it is now loyal to ISIS
21:25.55ImperiosSo like Joker: the Country
21:28.53Tek0516So I've been running an observer early game of the new EU4 patch. After so long of the tech groups system this technology map is almost disorienting https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/X6VBDX1z/20161011172651_1.jpg
21:30.15MonetHachiman: I know you follow Crash Course. Just saw a tweet by Hank Green and they've got a new site http://complexly.com/
21:30.55MonetFollow/like, I had a busy day.
21:46.13Tek0516Actually I think this new EU4 tech system is actually an early game nerf to the Russians. :P
21:46.32Tek0516(Among other things, but that's one. :P)
22:04.44Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14650584_1852799064952229_5653246244284434630_n.jpg?oh=35bca24228b528229f2e628441729dee&oe=58A66D27 indeed
22:07.10Tek0516O.o It's only 1500 in this game and it's reached the point where Manchu formed and then proceeded to be wiped out
22:07.18Tek0516*overrun by bith China and Korea
22:08.17Tek0516Also Muscovy has been all but destroyed. RIP Russia. :P
22:09.19MonetXho: I love this Galaxy news.
22:09.31Xhowha
22:10.41MonetEh, as nice as the galaxy is, it's somewhat refreshing to see Samsung fuck up.
22:11.39XhoRight
22:11.40Monetas good at phones as Samsung is, rather.
22:12.22MonetI've come to see it as "Apple before they got complacent"
22:15.52TechnobliteratorI don't see why you'd root for a company to fail
22:16.14TechnobliteratorI am sad about the news because peoples' phones got blown up
22:16.20XhoBecause an anarchic oblivion is the natural human state
22:16.21Xho:v
22:16.50TechnobliteratorIt will hurt the company a lot, but I care more about the people who were hurt
22:17.07Xholol okay extend ur feelings
22:17.21Technobliterator: |
22:17.27XhoThen again you're discussing feelings with me and it's more like talking to a brick wall with a rusty nail in it
22:17.38MonetI don't want it to fail per se. And yeah, sad to hear people did get hurt. I mostly find it hilarious that the great and mighty Samsung resorted to cheap batteries for their latest phone.
22:17.54TechnobliteratorI mean, fair enough
22:18.18TechnobliteratorI don't really like the whole Apple vs Samsung tribalism
22:18.52MonetAnd that's why I love this news.
22:18.54TechnobliteratorBoth companies are pieces of shit in different ways, both their products have their merits, I wish people would just choose what they want and then move on
22:19.02Technobliteratoroh, from that perspective, sure
22:19.46MonetEver since Apple got complacent with its design approach, Samsung has been hailed as the greatest phone company.
22:20.07TechnobliteratorI never agreed with that, personally
22:20.15MonetI bought a HTC because I wanted to avoid the war between Apple-Samsung.
22:20.17TechnobliteratorThere are far more choices at there than just Apple and Samsung
22:20.33TechnobliteratorI bought Sony, and my next phone will probably be a Pixel
22:20.45TechnobliteratorThe S7 edge is nice, but it's full of bloatware
22:21.40MonetI'm sort of sceptical about Pixel but mostly because I'd rather we not have a Google monopoly.
22:22.35MonetOnce people learn Google has its own smartphone, there's a chance that, like what happened with Android, it'll dominate.
22:22.48TechnobliteratorI disagree
22:23.03TechnobliteratorMicrosoft's Surface hasn't given them a monopoly over Windows 10
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22:23.14Technobliteratordumbo
22:23.39MonetMicrosoft is only dominating with Windows though.
22:23.44OluapPlayerlosa
22:24.48MonetGoogle dominates with its search engine, Android, YouTube, it's the king of the data market, and I think there was even hype for Google Cardboard.
22:25.08TechnobliteratorIt's also dominating with Office
22:25.40MonetPeople are in uproar over the ipencil? Google Cardboard must have cost like 10p to manufacture.
22:25.41TechnobliteratorWhile I worry about Google monopolies, among millions of other things I dislike about the company, typically their products tend to improve in spite of them
22:26.38TechnobliteratorThe company's done stupid stuff, mostly in terms of violating privacy and tax dodging, but its products are good and it supports open source
22:27.09TechnobliteratorMeanwhile, Microsoft does great stuff for charities, or more specifically Bill Gates does, but I don't really like their products at all
22:27.21Xhosieze the means of production n shit
22:27.45XhoOkay now that I have spelled that wrong I'm not too sure how to spell it correctly
22:27.49Xhoagh
22:27.59TechnobliteratorSeize?
22:28.05XhoProbably
22:30.59Monethttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Google_Cardboard_-_Fully_unfolded%2C_continued.JPG five million of these got sold in 19 months.
22:32.11MonetThe most expensive component...actually I'm not sure
22:32.22MonetPossibly the lenses.
22:33.08MonetMaybe I'm sceptical because of how generous Google seem
22:33.49Tek0516Monet: Actually it's probably the engineering/manufacturing to make cardboard like that that's most expensive. :P
22:34.20MonetTek0516: Oh yeah. But those are one-time costs.
22:34.49MonetOr batch costs.
22:35.09MonetThe components themselves potentially cost only a few pennies.
22:35.40Tek0516Well I mean it's probably more to make cardboard like that than the cost of the material itself.
22:37.26MonetLargely not keen on the modern trend of "I want it free and now"
22:38.00Tek0516And the R&D costs are probably orders of magnitude more than the total cost of the materials
22:38.07Tek0516I hate that trend too.
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22:40.00Tek0516Though Google cardboard exists probably purely to prove a point, everything one of those phone VR devices does at orders of magnitude less cost.
22:41.15MonetAnd it's made of more eco-friendly material.
22:42.13MonetPoints that the frugal and the environmentally-conscious would love, considering that for a fair few things, going green is a more expensive lifestyle.
22:44.55Tek0516When another company can sell millions of something that does everything yours does but at a tenth of the price it puts more pressure on VR makers to improve.
22:46.11MonetI will agree there is a genius to Google Cardboard beyond it's cheap look.
22:47.25HachimanRight back
22:48.56MonetSamsung releasing phones made with poor-quality batteries is a useful reminded that it can make mistakes.
22:50.32Monetreminder*
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23:05.53The_RandomnessHello
23:08.16Technobliteratorhi random
23:24.41Charles_Murrayhttp://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/galleries/x701/69734.jpg
23:24.47Charles_MurrayPortrait of Queen Elizabeth
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23:26.24Charles_MurrayOhhh mmyyy http://media.vanityfair.com/photos/574614b4b09823be03ef3d65/master/w_1200,h_900,c_limit/queen-elizabeth-birthday-90-annie-leibovitz-summer-2016-vf-06.jpg
23:28.35Tek0516Charles_Murray: "I am Britain."

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