IRC log for #sporewiki on 20161008

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01:00.15Liquid_Inkhttp://www.whenisthenextsteamsale.com/
01:01.22DrodoEmpireHuh
01:01.40Liquid_InkSorry, wrong channel
01:01.53Liquid_InkThat was relevant to my conservation with Wormy
01:02.01DrodoEmpireDon't say sorry- that's mighty useful
01:02.09DrodoEmpireHappy accident, I say
01:02.54Liquid_Ink:D
01:04.20Liquid_InkI'm heading off now, good day!
01:32.29DrodoEmpirehttps://scontent.fyhz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14520487_1127056314054741_7272320149755018948_n.jpg?oh=b9de7430afdd05050b1a094581d3acbd&oe=58A3F088
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02:39.30Quark8Hello.
02:41.48DrodoEmpireHi
02:43.50Quark8How are you?
02:45.12DrodoEmpireI'm alright
02:45.13DrodoEmpireyou?
03:02.55DrodoEmpirehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5opYIhIhSXE "I GOT DAT NEW BEETHOVEN NYGGGGUHHH"
03:14.38Monetgoodnight
03:16.01Wormy_Chavscoped https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Fyp2baH6iA
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03:25.59The_RandomnessHello
03:27.41Quark8Hello.
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03:29.58Quark8Hello Charles.
03:30.00Charles_MurrayHey
03:30.14The_RandomnessI just spent this whole week debugging this program of mine for an assignment, only to end up fixing just about all of the errors today
03:30.27The_Randomnessrip my week
03:30.27Charles_MurrayWelcome to computer science
03:30.32The_Randomnessyeah pretty much
03:30.42Charles_MurrayIt's been two weeks since anything of substance happened in the news
03:30.46Charles_MurrayAnd today
03:30.48Charles_MurrayWeeks happened
03:31.21The_Randomnessoh?
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03:32.56Charles_Murray1. A tape released onto the web has Donald Trump boasting that he sexually assaulted multiple women in extremely demeaning and objectifying language
03:33.08The_Randomnessclassy
03:33.09TetrisDHello
03:33.29Charles_Murray2. The US government formally accuses Russia of being behind the email hacks of the DNC and Colin Powell
03:33.49TetrisDI come in here to hear this...
03:33.53Charles_Murray3. Turns out Clinton's campaign manager was also hacked and his emails are now on WikiLeaks
03:34.45The_Randomnessspicy
03:35.42TetrisDLooks like the government isn't going anywhere but to the graveyard
03:35.51DrodoEmpireNo, that's silly
03:35.59Charles_Murray4. And there's the whole reaction to item #1. Paul Ryan's was fairly badass
03:36.14DrodoEmpireIts just that this election's been a bit crazy
03:36.29DrodoEmpireHardly the end of America :p
03:36.38Charles_Murray^
03:36.41The_Randomnessloldoom&gloom
03:36.53The_RandomnessCharles_Murray: What was Paul Ryan's reaction like?
03:36.53TetrisDWhat exactly is crasy in a world like this?
03:37.00DrodoEmpireWell
03:37.03DrodoEmpireThis election, for starters
03:37.05DrodoEmpire<.<
03:37.41DrodoEmpireThat all being said, I'm not a fan of Hillary, nor am I so much a fan of Trump as I am a fan of the sort of anti-establishment people that rally around him for better or for worse
03:37.45TetrisDThat's perfectly normal compared to some other things
03:37.52DrodoEmpireGary "What is Aleppo?" Johnson is a joke
03:38.01DrodoEmpireJill Stein's... Jill Stein
03:38.29DrodoEmpireSo, no, no candidate suits me. >.< And they're all silly one way or another
03:38.37The_Randomnesswell-said for the independent candidates
03:38.53DrodoEmpireWhat do you mean by that?
03:38.59TetrisDI'd sooner vote for the Three Stooges
03:39.36Charles_Murray"a bit crazy" is understatement of the century
03:39.36The_Randomnessone sec
03:40.08Charles_Murrayhttp://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/paul-ryan-donald-trump-comments-women-wisconsin-229307
03:40.14Charles_MurrayFor Ryan's reaction
03:40.26Charles_Murray"In the meantime, he is no longer attending tomorrow’s event in Wisconsin."
03:40.57Charles_MurrayHe just kicked out the PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY of a Republican event being held tomorrow
03:41.30The_Randomnessoh wow
03:42.55Charles_MurrayWith 20 days to the election, and the past two week being such a disaster for him, it seems like everyone is tentatively leaning towards declaring that this is "game over"
03:44.36The_RandomnessThe political forecast that I watch agrees with you
03:45.09DrodoEmpireWhy can't Mike Stearns be A. real, and B. president of a United States that *isn't* in 17th century Thuringia <.<
03:45.31The_Randomnessanyway, be back in a little bit, have to go do something
03:47.24Charles_MurrayDrodoEmpire They recreated the United States instead of just going with their own county or state?
03:47.54DrodoEmpireIn 1632 all the original inhabitants of Grantville were "up-timers"- that is, 20th century Americans
03:48.42DrodoEmpireThey decided to recreate the USA as best they could using the Constitution and classical Enlightment values
03:48.49DrodoEmpire*Enlightenment
03:49.26DrodoEmpireI believe the new US's government was a bit different though
03:49.47Charles_MurrayHow did they do it? xD
03:49.56DrodoEmpireRead the book fgt <.<
03:50.14DrodoEmpireMostly due to it being a small republic of a half million people at most as opposed to, you know, a continent-spanning nation of 400 million
03:50.26DrodoEmpireAnd in a constant state of war whether they like it or not
03:51.44DrodoEmpireBasically they all generally agreed that the traditional German aristocracy of Thirty Years' War vintage was foul and defied the whole thing in favour of their values and traditions
03:52.00DrodoEmpireIt was *very popular* with the many war refugees
03:52.16DrodoEmpireAnyway, I won't spoil it as its a great read
03:52.23DrodoEmpireAnd they get better with time
03:53.22DrodoEmpire(And, no, it isn't a *total* freedomfest- they run in to issues especially in the later books and are put in a *very* awkward political position from the getgo)
04:00.31Charles_MurrayGustavus Adolphus nein
04:08.28TetrisDTrump seams to be an a anti-Semitic from what I'm reading
04:09.03TetrisDGuess who I'm not voting for
04:17.50DrodoEmpireGustavus Adolphus is one of my favourite characters in the book <.<
04:18.26Charles_MurrayOh hey
04:18.30Charles_MurrayTrump just released a video
05:07.59The_Randomnessafter noticing a silly error in my code, my ray tracing program now correctly casts shadows
05:08.02The_Randomnessgod bless
05:08.10DrodoEmpireHuh
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05:31.07TetrisDAny other controversial topics I should prepare for?
05:32.50TetrisDA quiet day, then
05:33.19TetrisDThen again, it IS midnight
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08:38.27JepardiHi
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11:21.56HachimanHi
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11:32.28MonetHi
11:32.53dino82_hi
11:36.35OluapPlayerHi
11:36.50HachimanHi
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11:52.35Xhomeow
11:54.04Hachimanmoo
11:54.06OluapPlayerspu
11:57.16XhoHachiman: The Violent Sleep of Reason          oh my god
11:57.33HachimanHeh
11:58.02Monethttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14519934_747870238699916_370451042428853589_n.jpg?oh=724b67f973bec49ba905837d238c7cbf&oe=589E90EE A special Jim'll Paint it.
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12:00.34dromHuh, my ZNC is dead indeed.
12:00.41dromAnyway, hello!
12:00.53Cuttlefishhi
12:01.03Cuttlefishwhats a znc?
12:01.54dromhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNC_(software)
12:02.32dromA bouncer, it is basically a server dedicated to collect the information that was intended for you, then sends it to you once you are available.
12:04.06dromFor IRC, it connects to IRC as you, but stays online even if aren't using it at the moment. Anything that was said while you were offline is visible to you next time you log in on it again.
12:04.38Cuttlefishcool
12:05.57dromContrast IRC bots (see infobot and ChanServ) but except it is you.
12:07.41dromAnyway
12:07.55MonetDrodoEmpire: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14632811_1163240773752662_5578121579572921466_n.jpg?oh=81da518cc9e99dddf72e4e29146824aa&oe=586036F5
12:07.58dromDid anything noteworthy happen while I was away?
12:08.09MonetOr is he asleep again?
12:25.58XhoHachiman: Well I learnt the MonstroCity intro riff by ear
12:26.09HachimanNice
12:26.20XhoBest track on the album by far
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12:29.13dromOh hi!
12:33.55MonetWormy_ Hachiman: http://s3.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/1/8/0/576180_v1.jpg I think this could apply to a lot of social justice people.
12:34.21dromXho: I am quite convinced to add a faction of anarchoprimitivists to bite the Kurinnur Technocracy.
12:34.32Xhoanarchoprimitivist
12:34.34Xhois that even a word
12:34.36Wormy_Hello
12:34.39Wormy_And lol
12:34.49Wormy_It exists
12:34.55dromhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-primitivism
12:35.04dromBasically anarchists against technology
12:35.05XhoFair enough
12:35.14XhoI gathered the meaning of the word but I didn't know it was a word
12:35.23MonetSounds like a form of Luddism.
12:38.10dromContrast Amish
12:42.16Wormy_Looks like flawed utopianism, they unwittingly are still projecting their values on nature.  "mitivists also see modern science as another form of mediation between humans and the natural world, resulting in further alienation from their environment"  Well what better connection to the natural world that Science?  No other species can understand and harness the laws of physics.
12:42.38Wormy_like we do
12:43.47MonetSounds like the Ba'ku.
12:43.51Wormy_It is our special connection to the universe, that physics can be understood by epistemological (and likely computational) means.  Deep stuff
12:45.25Wormy_Speaking of computers, I had a nightmare that I programmed something wrong and my computer burst into flames.
12:45.40Wormy_Was so relieved when I woke up
12:46.03dromWormy_: That can happen if you program an IC in the wrong way
12:46.23dromEmbedded Computers, rather.
12:47.03Wormy_Jebus, well I won't be fiddling with that.
12:47.37Wormy_I started my Masters in compSci this week
12:48.22dromAbout to finish mathematics for engineers and my introduction course to computer engineering
12:49.41dromI've already a project for the latter. But the deliverer forgot to ship my parcel together an other part that was missing from the beginning
12:49.55dromSo it had been delayed for one week
12:49.58dromgrumbles
12:50.36dromBesides. I hope I don't fritz that thing while measuring the circurity with a DMM
12:51.01Wormy_That's really irritating.  Anyway, I hope nothing explodes and all goes well
12:52.08dromThe project is about making a home application or a comsetic (as in useless, see the useless box and other cool single-purpose stuff) application using an Arduino.
12:52.40dromMine is about taking an old RC and swap out its EC to an Arduino
12:52.58Wormy_Because my Msc is aimed at people without a strong background in compSci, the first semester is basically a crash course introduction where they squeeze three years of undergrad into one semester.  Then in the second semester I can choose a number of specialisms, and in the third do a research thesis
12:53.01dromSince it was old, it had simple and easily comprehendable circurity.
12:54.39Wormy_Bet that's useful in robotics?
12:59.41dromYep
12:59.49dromRobotics is applied computer engineering anyway
13:03.40dromOne of the nice things of CE is that you can finally have a good excuse bringing around these beauties. http://i.imgur.com/fY8Dr0q.jpg
13:07.27Wormy_What are they?  For measuring wires and components?
13:11.36dromYeah. It is bascially a ruler, but for PCB, electronics and lots related to electrical and computer engineering.
13:19.02Wormy_http://imgur.com/a/DG0RJ
13:19.47Wormy_"Will easily won the "Squeaky Toy" nomination and went on to defeat the incumbent in the national election. Will helped turn the economy around and reduce unemployment. He was involved in a scandal after getting a red rocket from his secretary"
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13:23.48MonetWormy_: That's quite a punny name actually
13:24.22Wormy_lol
13:24.23Wormy_hi
13:24.40Wormy_well spotted
13:24.59Cuttlefishis it a pun cause it rhymes with bill or am i missing something
13:25.42Wormy_drom:  Being a postgraduate, all the first year undergrads think I'm somekind of expert.  I opened UNIX for the first time yesterday and had a crowd of them in awe of it and thought I was some expert hacker.  Of course I was just as confused as they were
13:26.20dromWormy_: I saw someone browse 4chan in public for the first time in my life.
13:26.28Wormy_Brave
13:26.35dromThat was one of us undergrads in the introduction course
13:26.47MonetCuttlefish: The dog is Bill Clinton. Will + rocket & secretary = Bill Clinton because "Slick Willy".
13:26.50Cuttlefishtbh it's brave to browse 4chan even in private
13:27.29dromHe seemed to be keen into browsing /vg/ quite frequently
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13:27.48dromBecause I caught him browsing the cyan/blue-colored boards.
13:28.12dromI'll be back soon, need to configure my client
13:28.45Cuttlefishi don't get why anyone would go there. the site is a nexus of toxicity
13:29.55MonetAt this point 4chan is like a gestalt entity.
13:30.14MonetIt's got its own awareness and takes up a significant portion of the Internet.
13:31.34Wormy_I personally don't want to come across something illegal and being watched
13:31.49Wormy_or click on a link by accident and get a virus
13:32.01Wormy_so 4chann isn't for me
13:32.10CuttlefishI'm just creeped out by all the pedophiles and neo nazis
13:32.52Wormy_I donn't think the former are very common on 4chann but its known to have happened
13:33.08Cuttlefishit's also how i learned the alt right have appropriated pepe the frog as a symbol of white nationalism
13:34.00MonetI had heard from a friend that Pepe was now considered racist or something but I had no idea how.
13:34.05OluapPlayerNot all of 4chan is a cesspool, but obviously the bad parts are the ones people know about
13:34.30MonetOluapPlayer: The crazy minority effect strikes again.
13:34.39OluapPlayerAnonymity means people can do what they please without repercussions
13:34.57Wormy_yeah its pretty broad really, you never know what you'll find or how the community reacts to something there
13:35.10OluapPlayerI speak this as someone who goes there daily
13:35.11CuttlefishYeah that's why I never open my ask box on tumblr.
13:35.56Wormy_7chan is even more extreme isn't it?
13:36.06Cuttlefishthere's a 7chan?
13:36.13Wormy_yeah
13:36.13OluapPlayerI don't know 7chan
13:36.19OluapPlayerIt's a separate entity altogether
13:36.27Cuttlefishi've heard of 8chan
13:36.48OluapPlayer8chan was created in protest to alleged censorship in 4chan
13:36.54OluapPlayerThey're basically the same thing though
13:37.03Monet"We'll make our own Chan, with baccarat and art-house cinema nights"
13:37.12MonetMy guess as to what 7Chan is
13:37.16OluapPlayerExcept in 8chan you can freely make your own boards
13:37.46MonetSo basically 8Chan was born when 4Chan tried to rein in the lunacy.
13:38.10MonetIt's the great pony plague all over again.
13:38.12OluapPlayerArguably
13:38.18Cuttlefishpony plague?
13:38.22OluapPlayerNo censorship really happened
13:38.32OluapPlayer8chan's creation was, for the most part, overreaction
13:38.52Wormy_found this https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/2m4m5o/what_is_the_difference_between_2chan_4chan_7chan/
13:39.29MonetCuttlefish: One of the reasons pony art/memes are everywhere is because 4chan moderators tried to control the insane level of MLP posting going on a few years ago.
13:39.50OluapPlayerWhen MLP first came out, the whole site was infested with it
13:40.08OluapPlayerA specific board for it was eventually created and now people can only post ponies there
13:40.20CuttlefishI've never seen any pony memes. Then again, I usually avoid the sites inhabited by fandoms
13:40.23OluapPlayerThat's one of the places people go to be ironically creepy to each other
13:40.45MonetEventually after a long war between mods and bronies, a number of users left and took their pony love elsewhere.
13:40.56MonetAnd by elsewhere I mean "anywhere that lets you post pictures"
13:41.32OluapPlayerThat's mostly what 4chan is about. Pretending to be stupid thanks to anonymity. People are very rarely serious about what they say
13:41.56MonetDeviantArt for instance has been forever submerged in kinky pony art since the great pony plague.
13:42.04OluapPlayer"The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."
13:42.25Cuttlefishgamergate seemed pretty serious. i think that was mostly on 4chan
13:42.45OluapPlayerGamergate goes far beyond 4chan
13:42.59MonetGamerGate was a serious concern until Anita Sarkessian opened her mouth
13:43.10OluapPlayerIt existed there and contributed to the creation of 8chan, but it was hardly the only place where it was relevant
13:43.27CuttlefishI don't think gamergate was ever a serious concern
13:44.36MonetIt was initially about cronyism between big publishers and review sites like IGN wasn't it?
13:44.53OluapPlayerI've honestly no idea what GooberGate was ever about
13:45.02OluapPlayerTo me it was a hurricane of information that didn't add up
13:45.29CuttlefishMostly a bunch of whiney manchildren complaining about how feminist criticism of games was "censorship"
13:46.11OluapPlayerRadical feminist meddling was a point in it, yes
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13:46.33OluapPlayerBut I never understood the goal or point or the direction of it all
13:46.57MonetI think it was about cronyism initially as IGN is a massive offender for being paid to give a five-star review or hype a game to oblivion.
13:46.57CuttlefishIt was an angry mob there was no goal
13:47.33CuttlefishGamergaters claimed that one of the reviewers slept with the developer, a claim which was false, that led to multiple death threats
13:48.48MonetThat might have been how it evolved.
13:48.59OluapPlayerRegardless, it stopped being relevant
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13:49.35dromUgh for gtk-2.0
13:49.59MonetBut after the radical Feminists arrived it turned into rampantly chauvanistic the games industry is. Even though until the last maybe 8-10 years it was generally agreed that most gamers were men.
13:51.16OluapPlayerYeah and that didn't get any better over time
13:51.20OluapPlayerIn fact it's only gotten worse
13:51.26CuttlefishI'm confused Monet, what are you saying.
13:52.49OluapPlayerRadical feminists whining over videogames not fitting their points of view
13:53.04dromCuttlefish, judging from what was said, I guess he is talking about that the game industry mostly targeted the male audience.
13:53.35MonetOriginally the feminsits had a point - games were long seen as boys' toys. Especially the ones that involve shooting things.
13:53.46dromThat was from the perspective of the radical feminism.
13:54.04OluapPlayerXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfsCNL1g00o
13:54.16MonetSo they were tailored, as is typical in marketing, to appeal to their primary demographic - young men.
13:54.16CuttlefishI don't think criticism of harmful tropes counts as whining.
13:55.00MonetThe problem is a lot of feminists - Sarkessian is a good example - whine for attention.
13:55.00OluapPlayerThat implies the 'tropes' are harmful
13:55.24OluapPlayerAlso if this talk is going to take a turn to feminism, it better be taken to the other channel
13:55.31OluapPlayerThese discussions never end well
13:55.35CuttlefishI mean yeah many of the depictions of women in video games reenforce harmful stereotypes that impact the treatment of women in real life
13:55.49MonetNever mind how inspiring women like Tifa and Lara Croft were as action girls, they are what's wrong with gaming because of their massive chests and short-shorts.
13:56.01dromOh hey
13:56.14dromAnother FNaF has been released.
13:56.25dromhttp://store.steampowered.com/app/506610/
13:56.27Monetdrom: It's milking season.
13:56.31CuttlefishFNaF is a piece of trash
13:56.42OluapPlayerIt came out yesterday
13:57.05dromDidn't catch the news until now.
13:58.12MonetOne problem that Feminists dig themselves into is their main beef is how the women are portrayed. In some cases they care nothing for the personality which is rather hypocritical.
13:58.29CuttlefishWhat personality?
13:58.31OluapPlayerTake the feminist talk to offtopic I said
13:59.28MonetIts rather civil atm but fine, won't argue as its only a matter of time.
14:02.47OluapPlayerChanging topic, I found this brit on YouTube who plays some games I do and I'm amused over how fast he talks when he's excited
14:02.56OluapPlayerHe starts talking so fast I can't understand a word
14:05.11TechnobliteratorI still don't know what the heck Gamergate was
14:05.12TechnobliteratorOr is
14:05.39TechnobliteratorAlso, yes, Tifa and Lara Croft are awesome
14:05.52OluapPlayerThis guy also makes some interesting euphemisms
14:06.04OluapPlayerHe just called the enemy that killed him "shitstain on the pants of my happiness"
14:22.55Wormy_Gameas and gamers have always been the target of negative media attention, "corrupting the youth" does away and comes back in many different forms.
14:23.05Wormy_*goes away
14:24.35MonetWormy_: We moved to offtopic.
14:24.44Wormy_Apologies
14:24.58MonetNo problem
14:46.51XhoOluapPlayer: That's pretty much how I speak in real life, just general groans and screams
14:47.03OluapPlayeru got a problem
14:52.32XhoI still don't know what GamerGate is
14:54.16Tek0516http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1475937366-20161008.png
14:55.12CuttlefishThis reminds me of the one where Prometheus is tied to a rock watching his favorite movie, but the eagle is ignoring it and texting on his phone
15:05.07HachimanHm
15:05.18HachimanThere was a spider corpse in my open windowsill
15:05.24HachimanIt's gone now
15:05.25Xhoew
15:05.46HachimanNot crushed or anything; on its back, like it laid down and died there
15:05.50CuttlefishSpiders are good. They kill mosquitoes.
15:06.19HachimanI went to close my window and I see that it just disappeared
15:06.25MonetI watched a spider trap an insect the other day.
15:06.44MonetIt was either a wasp, a butterfly or a fly, can't quite remember.
15:07.03CuttlefishIf it was a butterfly then dam thats impressive
15:07.56HachimanWhat's impressive about catching a butterfly?
15:08.53MonetI recall large wings.
15:09.33CuttlefishI once saw a video of a spider killing a lizard. The world's largest spider is three feet.
15:10.23MonetWe have nothing that large here in England.
15:11.11Cuttlefishhttp://galerie.koehls.de/albums/philippines/spider.jpg
15:11.22Cuttlefishthis is what they have in southeast asia
15:13.36Xhothree feet
15:13.41XhoThat's like a metre long
15:14.04MonetI will never visit the Philippines.
15:14.28CuttlefishAnd the amazon has this giant centipede
15:14.59MonetCentipedes aren't so bad
15:15.26Cuttlefishhttp://i.imgur.com/XSlCdFR.jpg ok but it huge
15:15.49MonetI think I saw something like that in Temple of Doom...
15:16.08HachimanAren't centipedes also venomous?
15:16.36Cuttlefishyes
15:16.46MonetI like Cicedas https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Tibicen_linnei.jpg
15:16.59Cuttlefishthis one can kill a small child but it's mostly harmless
15:17.27Cuttlefishwetas are pretty cool
15:17.38MonetIs this child-killers one of those 'harmless until you annoy it' kind of bugs?
15:18.33CuttlefishLike it won't bite unless you get up in it's buissness and if it does bite you yer only dead if you're 4 years old
15:18.45Xhofukn bugs
15:20.06MonetThey pale compared to carboniferous bugs
15:20.27CuttlefishI feel like the fictionverse could use more giant bugs. The square cube law is one of the few things I am willing to completely ignore in favor of badass giant bugs.
15:20.45CuttlefishLike those big beetle taxis in morrowind
15:21.04HachimanExcept we tend to get vicious about square cube law here
15:21.14HachimanBecause people try to implement giant races or kaiju
15:21.18XhoWhatever the hell box cubes are
15:21.43Monethttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/---O0bfswXis/T-daOvdVmPI/AAAAAAAAAmI/Omjp0x58c0w/s1600/6-large+dragonfly.jpg behold! A dragonfly as long as your arm.
15:21.47OluapPlayerA very square box
15:21.58Xho[Krath likes this.]
15:22.18XhoWhich reminds me, need to do fiction
15:22.59OluapPlayerdo borewar stoph
15:23.09MonetXho: square cube law = when an object's size is multiplied, its volume is multiplied more.
15:23.19MonetMake something 10x bigger it'll weight 100 more.
15:23.20CuttlefishIn a world with space satan I don't think giant insects are that bad
15:23.28Monet100x more*
15:24.31CuttlefishAlso I'm a big fan of animals that are not horses ridden as if they were horses
15:24.46MonetI've got a couple of places where giant bugs are common.
15:25.22MonetNova Thei is a carboniferous jungle and while you were away I modified ALcanti's atmosphere to accomodate giant insects.
15:25.31OluapPlayerI think low gravity and lots of oxygen could get you lots of giant bugs
15:26.02HachimanLike Carboniferous Earth
15:26.09MonetFrench Andromeda has a thriving export market in Draconid insect meat.
15:26.13CuttlefishIt also helps will unrealistically tall skyscrapers
15:26.24OluapPlayerew bug meat
15:26.33CuttlefishCultural dissonance
15:27.01CuttlefishTarantula tastes just like crab
15:27.19MonetI refute 'unrealistic' because back in 1905 they would have thought the Burj Khalifa was impossibly tall.
15:28.13CuttlefishI guess. But the only reason it is that tall is cause of like it was built as a vanity object so the emir of dubai could say "hey i have the tallest building i'm cool"
15:28.13Cuttlefishthere aren't any economic reasons to have so many buildings like that
15:28.14Xhokreb
15:28.35XhoOluapPlayer: eschaton tho
15:28.37Cuttlefishand space isn't an issue since so many empires have like thousands of planets plus terraforming tech
15:28.37MonetCuttlefish: Overpopulation is one.
15:28.49OluapPlayerWell ask the others
15:28.51Wormy_We have the Mantisorac
15:29.00XhoHachiman ImpyDroid2: eschaton
15:29.02HachimanReading manga right now
15:29.14Xhofukn
15:29.34Xhoput down ur weaboo shit and do fiction alredi
15:29.48CuttlefishI can understand Minos Drakon having buildings in the kilometers as it is a capital that is flippin 200 thousand years old but for the most part I am very skeptical of cities like that
15:29.53Wormy_This page still needs work, but these can get sub-Epic sized http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Mantisorac_Swarm
15:30.11XhoI think people should stop trying to rationalise fiction
15:30.31MonetCuttlefish: On some respects I do agree if the aim is to turn a virgin world into a city planet in the span of 30 years.
15:30.37CuttlefishI imagine if alcanti was heavily damaged that it would take centuries to rebuild something like that
15:30.44Wormy_I don't mind it, as along as it is a fiction the creator doesn't mind being rationalised
15:30.45XhoOne thing I really hate about this wiki is the necessity to shove scientific rationality into fiction almost like a massive penis
15:31.01HachimanCannot have science fiction without the science
15:31.09XhoWeak excuse
15:31.15XhoFantasyverse is better anyway :V
15:31.19CuttlefishScience fiction is mostly just fantasy in space anyway
15:31.25MonetWell without the science it's space fantasy.
15:31.31Wormy_Yeah but since when we science users rain in your metaphysics parade?
15:31.42XhoYou don't
15:31.48CuttlefishI like the plausible stuff but writing is mostly about having fun.
15:31.49XhoAnd I don't rain on anyone's science parade
15:32.00XhoAlthough it gets close sometimes
15:32.04Wormy_I didn't think we had a problem, then
15:32.16CuttlefishLogically we can't science explain essence but we have it anyway cause it's totes badass
15:32.41MonetWe've tried
15:32.58XhoI don't go into technicalities in fiction because 1) I'm not able to go that far into it  2) It's boring to me
15:33.15MonetExactly. To each his own.
15:33.23XhoIt bothers me a lot when people start doing it to my fiction though
15:33.56XhoNot that it happens much but it has happened
15:33.57OluapPlayerIt's bound to happen, this is a collaborative site
15:34.02CuttlefishI can see why. Your fic is mostly rule of cool. It doesn't have to be sciency cause instead it's just really fun
15:34.13Wormy_1) I like doing it because science interests me and brings me to something unusual ideas/contexts to write stories that otherwise would have been thought of  2) I love world building using explanations as a starting point, see http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Prasandadr
15:35.00Wormy_Its a like creativity in straps, its fun and leads to complex areas
15:35.09XhoI still want to do a Civ Universe thing
15:35.09Wormy_*It is like
15:35.13CuttlefishI like an inconsistent explaining of things. Like the technology is realistic but magic exists just cause I can.
15:35.18XhoAlthough it's hard to get interest for it
15:35.37HachimanMy main argument for rationalising stuff in science fiction is that it gives limits to work within and its always more of an experience to work under certain restrictions and rules - because then you get to figure out ways to twist, exploit, or break them
15:35.41MonetCuttlefish: I suppose part of the misconception with giant cities is how much Shanghai, Dubai, Tokyo and Hong Kong have changed in 70 years.
15:35.57XhoHachiman: fuk da rules
15:36.16XhoThen again I don't like mundane and material things as a rule in fiction
15:36.40Xhomundane in the context of three-dimensional normality
15:36.44CuttlefishInternal consistency is the main thing I guess. You don't have to explain everything, but you do have to make it clear what you can and can't do
15:36.49MonetHachi: http://www.slobodaiprosperitet.tv/sites/default/files/images/science.jpg this is valid I guess
15:36.52Wormy_Hachi:  Yeah, its the challenge that can be fun, but its not for everyone
15:37.03MonetWe make shit up, but we figure out the fantasy.
15:37.46Wormy_Despite all I've said, I find a lot of interest in the metaphysics of the SporeWikiverse and have allowed it deep into my fiction
15:37.54CuttlefishMake up the rules, but don't break the rules once you make them up
15:38.10Wormy_Just in areas it won't conflict particularly
15:38.16MonetI think most of us have our own consistencies within our fiction.
15:38.29MonetWell, within personal fiction at least.
15:38.47XhoI don't mind the more sciency stuff but it puts too many limits on my thought process
15:39.34Wormy_Most of my fiction isn't rigorously hard SF anyway.  I'm starting to prefer using the terms "plausible" or "speculative"
15:40.21Wormy_The Super Collab is far more rigorous to the point we have to explain hyperspace physics in a way that makes time travel hard but "FTL" easy
15:40.21HachimanThat reminds me; I wonder if 'luck magic' is something that is possible in the Fantasyverse
15:40.30CuttlefishI used to care about being plausible but now I'm just like "this won't work in our world but would it work in this made of universe with different physics"
15:40.55XhoHachiman: pelagrios = patron god
15:41.15MonetThese megascrapers I imagine have foundations deeper than modern construction firms can plausibly drill.
15:41.50XhoI don't quite get the Super Collab
15:41.59XhoLanguage part I do of course but
15:42.28Wormy_Hachi:  'Luck magic' as in lucky?  Or 'luck' magic as something like synchronicity or sympathetic magic?
15:43.01HachimanMore the former since I've only a passing understanding of the latter
15:43.16CuttlefishYeah conlangs are fun
15:43.33MonetCuttlefih: After studying architecture my mind screams HOW IZ DIS POSSIBUL when it sees Coruscant
15:43.41CuttlefishProbably. Though I Imagine that while buildings like those are possible, they are not as numerous and only cities of immense wealth age and population have more than one or two per city
15:43.52CuttlefishI'm just confused as to how they breathe
15:44.03XhoHachiman: I'm gonna put out the opinion that The Violent Sleep of Reason makes Obzen and Koloss look weak
15:44.03Cuttlefishlike if the whole planet is a city where does the oxygen come from
15:44.13HachimanI'll have to listen to the whole album later
15:44.22Cuttlefishis there a big ocean full of plankton that we don't see?
15:44.31Cuttlefishlike how they explained taris in kotor
15:44.33XhoOverall it's more similar to Catch 33 or Nothing
15:44.47MonetCuttlefish: Factory-scale oxygenation factories probably
15:44.49XhoCuttlefish: continental air conditioners
15:44.50XhoOr that
15:44.55HachimanLike, if luck is a force than can be determined, influenced, and / or outright manipulated through arcanomancy on Koldenwelt, does that mean aspects of reality such as fate can also be changed to fit a certain mage's preference or something
15:45.07XhoCaligaduro - delete dis
15:45.19CuttlefishI'm not a fan of luck existing as a thing
15:45.47CuttlefishAnd like fate and stuff
15:45.48MonetMy brain screams at Coruscant because it's idea of "skyscrapers on skyscrapers" makes me wonder how the lower levels don't collapse with all that weight put on them.
15:45.52OluapPlayerThat doesn't make a lot of sense to me
15:45.55XhoThings like probabilities are probably better left out of magical control
15:46.22MonetUnless for some random reason Coruscantians decided to construct their ground-level buildings out of admanatium.
15:46.24XhoI did allude that Asv-Aldz may have some influence over probabilities and such but I retracted it
15:46.25Wormy_Cuttlefish:  Indoor phytoplankton or greenhouses on a vast scale?
15:47.20MonetSkyscrapers *need* foundations - 98% of Coruscant's buildings apparently lack them.
15:47.27Xhowut
15:47.27CuttlefishI think controlling probability is the most overpowered power in existence. You're basically god. And that's not fair
15:48.52Wormy_Depends, luck can run out as they say.  If luck magic works like sympathetic magic (like "like effects like"), one would still have to find symbolic meaning and have the trouble of merging their intentions with the world.  And the world might not play
15:49.19XhoI might work on some pages for magic
15:49.20CuttlefishUnless it's like a luck power that conveniently stops them from dying but otherwise has no benefit like rincewind in the first discworld
15:49.26XhoI tried it with dark magic but never set off
15:49.33XhoStorm Magic should be easier
15:49.36Wormy_synchronous magic often comes with the trope of a trickster with a mind of its own that can giveth and taketh away on a whim
15:51.34HachimanI think that if 'luck magic' is a thing, it'd have to be a system where opportunities for fortune are open and the caster has to work to earn that fortune rather than wait for it to come to them; no such thing as a hopeless situation, as there would always be a window of opportunity available to you if you're smart enough, in essence
15:51.51Xhokarma biatch
15:52.24CuttlefishI should read more into the fantasyverse. How does magic work in that anyway?
15:52.39HachimanMost magic stems from Koldenwelt's equivalent of Gaia
15:53.13CuttlefishSo borrowed power from a god or is magic some kind of sentient natural force
15:53.32HachimanKinda the latter, although the former is also a thing that happens regarding the Simulacra
15:53.42OluapPlayerIt's natural but not sentient
15:53.44HachimanAt least, if I recall
15:53.49HachimanYeah
15:53.53OluapPlayerMost Simulacra use the Source
15:54.20OluapPlayerYou don't borrow power from them as much as you borrow from Isiris
15:55.07Wormy_I think with 'luck magic', the wielder is more asking for luck (charms *like* lucky coincidence) than demanding it, so they cannot monopolise power
15:55.16HachimanYeah
15:55.45XhoThen you have Void Magic and Primal Energy which aren't from the Source
15:55.58XhoMainly because their governing forces are unnatural horrors
15:56.58Cuttlefishdude the simulcra are just daedra what the heck
15:57.05XhoMore or less
15:57.07OluapPlayerWelcome to 2011
15:57.24OluapPlayerThey were based on the Daedra
15:57.27XhoAlthough they're not supremely powerful individuals of a species like the Daedra are
15:57.56CuttlefishI think they are a bit too similar
15:58.11OluapPlayerThat's too bad
15:58.13XhoWas kind of the idea originally
15:58.42XhoThe Chaosphere deities are slightly less Daedra-ish and more Lovecraftian
15:58.51Xhotentacles and shi
15:59.04XhoOh and Crux which is super Lovecraftian
16:00.22CuttlefishIs Cyrannian still on the wiki?
16:00.30XhoSort of
16:00.36XhoHe's active but occupied
16:00.48MonetHe's mostly preoccupied with university.
16:03.04DrodoEmpireOh, fuck
16:03.07DrodoEmpireI left this on
16:03.17Wormy_Omg, how strange, I just had a synchronicity Hachiman, Xho
16:03.25CuttlefishWere you asleep Drodo
16:03.26Xhodafuq is dat
16:03.38Wormy_Listening to this, Mckenna says synchronicity plays with you #https://youtu.be/ImFmOcZ2-xs?t=17m40s
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16:03.50Wormy_As I suggested earlier
16:03.59DrodoEmpireCuttlefish: Yeah, for way too long
16:04.12DrodoEmpireI've been sick and I stayed up late, so I slept in too much >.<
16:04.24Xhogg
16:04.33DrodoEmpire<:
16:04.36DrodoEmpire*>:
16:04.51Cuttlefishwhat does that emoticon mean?
16:05.01DrodoEmpire">:"?
16:05.08DrodoEmpireA frown as I see it
16:05.26Cuttlefishthe asterisk? was that a hand on chin or a typo?
16:05.35DrodoEmpireI've always seen "<:" as a smarmy smile
16:05.37DrodoEmpireTypo
16:05.45Xho:>
16:05.49DrodoEmpire>:
16:05.55Cuttlefish'v'
16:06.05XhoIs this one of those things where we drive on the left and you drive on the right things
16:06.19DrodoEmpireSuppose so
16:06.54Cuttlefish:>) or the presence or absence of noses
16:07.10Xhonoses
16:07.10Xhoew
16:07.27Cuttlefish(<: (<: (<: (<: (<:
16:08.44MonetYeah adding a nose doesn't seem that useful.
16:08.48Cuttlefish(c;
16:09.53MonetThe ( looks like a chin.
16:10.21Cuttlefishi guess it does
16:11.58Cuttlefishthis reminds me of the moustache meme
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16:14.14NeonPandahi all
16:14.14Cuttlefishhttps://img.ifcdn.com/images/24f95f4f3130e418813b44e1db01aabdb757aef45d12dd25b1797cfd68d9d5b7_1.jpg
16:14.19Cuttlefishhello
16:14.54DrodoEmpirehur
16:16.00Cuttlefishyeah drodo i don't see "<:" as smarmy is see it as like a bird smile. like it's a bird <:
16:16.16Wormy_Cuttlefish http://i.imgur.com/UIymzEg.jpg
16:16.34DrodoEmpireCuttlefish: Context usually makes it smarmy
16:16.44DrodoEmpireBut enough about explaining the joke >.<
16:17.09DrodoEmpireWormy_: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
16:17.24Wormy_You cannot unsee this now
16:18.28MonetI love psychology
16:18.42Cuttlefishhttp://img.memecdn.com/what-has-been-seen-cannot-be-unseen_o_322391.jpg
16:19.43DrodoEmpireayy lmao
16:20.50NeonPandaso the police have reiterated their statement about those clown idiots after another one got hospitalised, saying they wont tolerate the behaviour "due to the risk to those with health conditions, and the risk of violent retaliation by those affected"
16:21.21NeonPandaso yeah, they're more concerned with the clowns getting the living shit beaten out of them than the clowns causing injury to others
16:21.27DrodoEmpireI think people absolutely have the right to act like a bunch of creeps outside
16:21.32Cuttlefishoh god more of this clown nonsense. i don't understand people.
16:21.40DrodoEmpireAnd they shouldn't be persecuted as a whole by the cops
16:21.43DrodoEmpireBut
16:21.51CuttlefishIs it just an american thing?
16:22.04DrodoEmpireOnce they begin harassing and assaulting people- as many seem to do now- that's when they deserve a shit-kicking and time in jail
16:22.05DrodoEmpireNo
16:22.14Cuttlefishor are clowns popping up elsewhere. I haven't seen any clowns yet where i live
16:22.16DrodoEmpireIts mostly in the States, but its beginning up here in Canada
16:22.24Cuttlefishoh no
16:22.29DrodoEmpireTalk of *my* town, anyhow
16:22.34Wormy_What's this I keep hearing about rogue terrorist clowns?
16:22.56NeonPandait's started here in Australia too
16:22.56OluapPlayerTerrorist is a bit too much to describe it
16:23.01DrodoEmpireNot terrorists >.< Dumbshits who dress up as clowns and stalk the streets and parks at night brandishing knives
16:23.05XhoAllahu clownbar
16:23.09DrodoEmpirehur
16:23.22Wormy_squeeky squeeky boom
16:23.23XhoThere was one in Southampton
16:23.24Xhoof course
16:23.25DrodoEmpireThey also have a reputation for chasing people with said weapons, and on occasion attacking people
16:23.36CuttlefishSo like clown gangs
16:23.38OluapPlayerSantorakh - this is your reward for making me
16:23.45DrodoEmpireNo, they work alone as far as I know
16:23.52DrodoEmpireThere's been at least one clown-induced death so far
16:24.02DrodoEmpire(Which is something I never thought I'd say)
16:24.16CuttlefishOk so a creepy clown subculture which is growing due to the media attention it is getting
16:24.22DrodoEmpireBasically
16:24.33Wormy_I was just joking about the terrorist part
16:24.40Monetthanks social media!
16:24.56Cuttlefish2016 everybody
16:25.01OluapPlayerThese are bad clowns
16:25.06OluapPlayerThey're not even throwing pies at people
16:25.16CuttlefishAll clowns are bad clowns
16:25.17Wormy_That would be better
16:25.32CuttlefishWhen has there ever been a good clown
16:25.33Wormy_Everyone needs to be exposed to a good creaming in the face
16:25.45CuttlefishThat's not funny it's just rude
16:27.06CuttlefishI wonder if this has anything to do with those juggolo people
16:27.18DrodoEmpireThat's pretty old-school
16:27.26DrodoEmpireDunno why there'd be a resurgence of that
16:27.57Xho"Everyone needs to be exposed to a good creaming in the face" - Wormy, 2016
16:28.00Xhofucking hilarious
16:28.16CuttlefishWell when you put it like that
16:28.26DrodoEmpireey laymo
16:29.05Wormy_I'm not rude very often but I had to take the opporetunity
16:30.06CuttlefishHow funny a person's rudeness is is proportional to how rare it is
16:31.56OluapPlayerThat wasn't rude, it was just innuendo-y
16:32.20HachimanKalcedia reference incoming
16:32.58Xhodicks
16:32.59Xhoc
16:34.22Wormy_As fun as IRC has been today, I must go
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16:40.59MonetHo
16:41.19OluapPlayerho
16:41.25Xhorude
16:44.07MonetThen Santa is very rude
16:45.00OluapPlayeru get coal this year u little bitch bitch bitch
16:45.57OluapPlayerAlso it'd probably be a good idea to do featured fiction today. I keep forgetting
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16:46.12MonetI hope it's charcoal, it's good for digestion
16:46.19Cuttlefishsanta doesn't give naughty children coal. they just get eaten by the krampus
16:46.27OluapPlayerAny of youse got suggestions for featured fiction or is it gonna be like last time where I had to do everything by myself
16:47.02Xhothe latter
16:47.11OluapPlayerget ur ass banned
16:47.25Xhonein
16:47.28Cuttlefisheventually we're just gonna run out of fiction and everything will be featured sooner or later
16:50.06MonetAnything featured can be refeatured after a year
16:50.30DrodoEmpireI'd say Halifaxia
16:50.30Xhoxhodocto den
16:50.36DrodoEmpireBut its not really where I want it to be
16:52.04OluapPlayerWe've never refeatured things before, I don't see why a one year rule would come up now
16:52.13Xhocuz bored
16:53.12OluapPlayerImpyDroid2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnHfPiCsx00 jesus christ
16:56.05MonetI'm sure a one year policy was discussed
16:58.25OluapPlayerIt wasn't, at least not while I was here
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16:59.55MonetIt's possible you might not have been as I do remember Cuttlefishs concern coming up before
17:00.55CuttlefishHasn't the Libertus been featured twice?
17:01.27MonetThem or Rambo Nation. Or both
17:01.59OluapPlayerI'll just not do anything
17:02.11OluapPlayerCyrannian can handle it when he's back
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17:05.58MonetHello
17:06.02dino82_hi
17:06.47dino82_howz all dong
17:06.49dino82_anything going on?
17:07.26OluapPlayerhi
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17:10.31NeonPandaXho: forgot to mention, you're a battle pet in Duelyst
17:10.54NeonPandahttp://duelyst.gamepedia.com/Xho
17:11.27MonetCuttlefish: with Minos'drakon the administration centre has been upscaled to be the size of a city
17:12.57MonetIt's more of a precinct now
17:14.15XhoNeonPanda: dafuq
17:14.35NeonPandaur a fluffy little ball of destruction
17:14.47XhoMakes sense
17:14.51DrodoEmpireAlright, I'ma be in town for a few hours
17:15.10NeonPandaalthough you're not the faction I play and therefore I hate you :3
17:15.23DrodoAwayhttp://duelyst.gamepedia.com/Songhai
17:15.26DrodoAway>Songhai
17:15.39DrodoAwayWuz we kangs? <.<
17:15.53NeonPandaI know, not their most imaginative name
17:15.57DrodoAwayhur
17:16.03NeonPandaand they have a minion with the grow mechanic called Gro
17:16.12DrodoAwayoh wow lul
17:16.40NeonPandaI quite enjoy this game because unlike hearthstone it's not unbalanced monkeyness
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17:28.31NeonPandasome of the factions in duelyst have some interesting concepts to them too
17:29.53NeonPandathe Magmar (the one I play) have a bunch of minions that when they die they revert to an egg and resurrect the next turn, which is amazing because it forces people to spend more resources to clear them
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18:09.53Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fantasy_Universe/The_Source/Aetheromancy storm magic n shit
18:10.58XhoOluapPlayer ImpDroid2: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/ff/MarasMagic.png/revision/latest?cb=20161008180919 dawn wardens n shi
18:11.10XhoAlso a new model for Maras that I need to upload
18:11.59OluapPlayer"my eyes"
18:12.42XhoI could imagine someone triggering Maras by going "That Void Denzien ate your teddy bear"
18:13.47Monet2What would teddy bears be called in the fantasyverse?
18:14.00OluapPlayerTeddy Mhors
18:14.50Monet2But Theodore Roosevelt doesn't exist in the fantasyverse
18:16.43Monet2So no most badass president ever to name your toy after
18:22.11XhoAlthough I imagine an Orayu toy would be a plushie Cthulhu type thing
18:22.13Xhocuz blub
18:22.44Monet2unless there was an Empire monarch nicknamed Ted who really loved stuffed animals
18:23.57Xhohttp://www.cthulhushop.com/wp-content/uploads/image5.jpg I almost want one of these
18:24.25OluapPlayersquish
18:24.59Monet2Give in to your inner child
18:25.17Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14611075_1776686285913182_6526013079073484863_n.jpg?oh=0e329b757123363ba2dd093057238e57&oe=58652368 god has left us
18:26.49XhoTurns out she deleted her account not long after
18:26.51Xhotop kek
18:27.38OluapPlayerhttp://cdn.artige.no/image/artige/051016/c5782c13d26e449c4ae4.jpg
18:28.21Monet2Well Sven was very doglike in Frozen
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18:28.35ImperiosHi
18:28.42ImperiosMonet2: https://cs7066.vk.me/c636129/v636129260/21d7c/w3qbAmshESA.jpg
18:29.33Monet2Y checkered shirt tho
18:30.15XhoI wear checkered shirts dam u
18:32.18Monet2Or is it because tomboy stereotype
18:32.35NeonPandaand P!atD is a very loose association at best
18:32.51OluapPlayerImperios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhVvOps3C6s I came across this
18:32.55ImperiosXho: https://pp.vk.me/c637818/v637818199/18a5d/9qLQ6nLppt4.jpg
18:33.03Xhoindeed
18:33.15ImperiosOluapPlayer: TRIFLING GNOME
18:33.22Xhohttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/e4/Maras2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20161008183200 Golden Maras Edition
18:33.29ImperiosHearthstone even has a Jaraxxus card
18:33.34ImperiosIt literally removes your hero when summoned
18:34.14OluapPlayerThat has a 5 hour version too
18:34.48ImperiosOluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJs5_s0Fsbs And then there's this
18:35.03OluapPlayerI saw that too
18:35.54XhoOluapPlayer Imperios: c golden crazyfish
18:36.01OluapPlayerdid
18:36.28ImperiosXho: Oooh I like this colour sceheme
18:36.47XhoEsulus has a similar scheme as well
18:37.09Xhohttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/6c/Esulus2015.png/revision/latest?cb=20151017185912 Well not that similar
18:38.03ImperiosMaras's one is far more striking
18:38.31XhoThat's Dark Injection 9.r for you
18:38.49XhoColour schemes are crazy
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18:40.31Hachiman野生のちんちんが現れる
18:40.36OluapPlayernani
18:40.53Xhoeh
18:41.08Monet2<PROTECTED>
18:41.20XhoOh wait I get it
18:42.12HachimanXho: I'M THE GHOST ROBOT OF MARK ZUCKERBERG
18:42.21XhoThat video was a bit nuts
18:42.48ImperiosMonet2 Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av85pHZcncE WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS
18:42.50ImperiosWHAT IS THIS
18:42.52ImperiosWHAT IS MY LIFE
18:43.19Xhoyasei no chinchin ga arawareru
18:43.23Monet2I'm in a public place so not clicking
18:43.39XhoIt's not NSFW
18:43.42XhoBut it's a bit wtf
18:43.59XhoHachiman: listen to meshuggah already
18:44.06XhoAlso can we eschaton now
18:44.08Monet2YouTube also eats up my data
18:44.22OluapPlayerIt's JARAXXUS, EREDAR LORD OF THE BURNING LEGION
18:44.42HachimanImperios: Looks like Chinese / European Avengers meets Aliens
18:44.51HachimanAnd non, I'll have D&D in some time from now
18:45.02XhoOkay now I'm getting bothered by this
18:45.14XhoWhat exactly is a good time for doing this
18:47.08XhoBecause if there is no good time for it then I will stop Eschaton fully
18:47.23HachimanSometime this week, I dunno
18:47.33HachimanPossibly tomorrow
18:48.41Monet2Maybe you guys could work out some alternate way of writing that isn't as intensive as a full RP
18:49.30ImperiosMonet2: https://youtu.be/U1nfa4JE6r4?t=2
18:49.37ImperiosMonet2: The old-fashioned way
18:49.41ImperiosEach of us writing on their own
18:50.23ImperiosNeonPanda: https://youtu.be/U1nfa4JE6r4?t=54
18:51.25NeonPandaour fossil fuels are a bit more solid so we're ok :P
18:52.15Monet2Imperios: Hachi and I have been trying a hybrid of the old idea where we choreograph what happens and one person writes it up
18:52.31Imperioshell that is a brilliant idea
18:54.07NeonPandadino82_ and I did that ages ago, led to In Better Times
18:54.29NeonPandaalthough rather than one person writing it up, each wrote their side of the events
18:54.31dino82_Yeah! That was a grest story :D
18:55.34NeonPandastill the one I'm most proud of tbh
18:55.41ImperiosXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lElqWp4bOzA This Polandball you might like
18:57.01dino82_yeah that was a nice time :D
18:57.09XhoImperios: I like Polandball in general
18:57.15ImperiosHuh
18:57.18ImperiosThought you hated it
18:57.21XhoThat's Oluap
18:57.21Monet2I found the technique really useful considering how busy real life makes us
19:01.51NeonPandahalf of In Better Times was written in airports, the rest in a hotel, so it's a pretty useful method
19:02.37XhoMight try it
19:02.54XhoMy fiction isn't exactly user friendly as far as I can tell
19:03.47XhoImperios: That is more or less how it went I guess
19:04.56XhoAlso did anyone see my Aetheromancy page
19:05.13OluapPlayerI did
19:05.20XhoI need more stuff to add to it
19:05.22XhoI don't know what though
19:05.47OluapPlayerThere's only so much you can add to a page like that
19:06.00Monet2I had a quick look. But phone + wikia = annoying
19:06.19HachimanI'll check in a bit
19:06.27HachimanImperios: https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/14462975_1776759755905835_447513394240141452_n.jpg?oh=5868394f162f1b6cb1f9a30a63b67add&oe=58A875D6 How to break your back
19:06.45ImperiosThat's like 45 kg
19:06.57HachimanNo, no, look at the weights
19:07.01HachimanHow they're arranged
19:07.43Xho45 kg
19:07.44Xhokek
19:07.50ImperiosWell
19:07.52Imperios45 kg x 2
19:07.54Imperios90 kg
19:07.59HachimanNo, no
19:08.00Monet2Shouldn't the larger the weights be closer to the body?
19:08.05Hachiman^
19:08.06ImperiosYeah was about to say that
19:08.08XhoYeah the arrangement's fucked up
19:08.18Xho90 kg is well
19:08.19XhoHeavy
19:08.34ImperiosAlso why breaking your back when you can
19:08.39Imperiosbreak THEIR backs
19:08.41ImperiosBREAK THEIR BACKS
19:08.47Xho^ this guy
19:09.12HachimanBLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
19:09.14HachimanFOR THE SLAUGHTER
19:15.20HachimanMonet2: tfw your friend is a veteran of World War Bee
19:16.13Monet2"I've seen things, things you will not believe"
19:20.47Monet2He or she was there when history was made
19:21.34HachimanAye
19:21.58HachimanHe was involved in a battle that saw the slaughter of a bunch of capitals
19:23.17ImperiosMonet
19:23.46Wormy_awayhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14568072_1328348790561905_1183965164554639891_n.jpg?oh=2c7026d151cc4eaa58a8b7998cad3e68&oe=586761FC
19:23.54Monet2Imperios
19:24.16HachimanHachiman
19:25.05ImperiosWormy_away: https://youtu.be/U1nfa4JE6r4?t=2
19:27.21Wormy_awayvery random if you don't understand it lol
19:43.52DrodoAwaytest
19:46.29Xhomeow
19:46.53XhoHachiman: Listen to MonstroCity
19:46.59Xhodat track is lit m8
19:48.34XhoSo has anyone got any ideas on what to add to the Aetheromancy page
19:50.06DrodoAwayNope
19:50.07DrodoAwaySorry
19:50.09DrodoAway>>:
19:50.17DrodoEmpireback though
19:52.34ImperiosHachiman: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bOerP5bUb3A/hqdefault.jpg
19:56.18OluapPlayerBeyond a list of notable users there's nothing else to note
19:56.28Xhoeh good enuf
19:56.31Xhogud oluap
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19:59.39DrodoEmpireHi
19:59.55DrodoEmpireSo I'm thinking of making Halifaxia's government a bit like an elective monarchy in the Polish style
20:00.09TetrisDhi
20:00.22HachimanElective monarchy
20:00.25HachimanHow does that work?
20:00.36DrodoEmpireIt can work in a few ways
20:00.36XhoYou elect a king
20:00.36Xhodoi
20:00.42HachimanYeah I meant
20:00.46HachimanAmong which candidates
20:00.55HachimanMembers of the established royal house or
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20:01.04DrodoEmpireUsually its the aristocracy voting on who, among several candidates, can be king
20:01.16DrodoEmpireI'm looking up how it worked in Poland
20:01.20XhoTalk about politics -> Charles_Bot appears
20:01.24Xhoit's a buzzword i say
20:01.24DrodoEmpire<.<
20:01.40Charles_BotI have been summoned
20:02.22DrodoEmpireI believe it was that the aristocracy chose among several candidates from a single royal family
20:02.28HachimanRight
20:02.48DrodoEmpireSo there'd be candidate A or B, but both would be from, say, the Piast family
20:06.59OluapPlayerreally boring day today
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20:08.06The_RandomnessHello
20:08.12TetrisDhi
20:08.38DrodoEmpireHi
20:10.48NeonPandahi
20:19.31Wormy_awayhttp://imgur.com/gallery/rwhXp
20:23.31Wormy_awayHachiman:  Hunting sewer gherkins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyN6R3xqvG8
20:26.30ImperiosDrodoEmpire: I think they could elect anyone, theoretically
20:26.32ImperiosPoles, I mean
20:30.16DrodoEmpireMm
20:31.44DrodoEmpireNo, candidates were screened in the first step
20:31.57DrodoEmpireThe Convocation Sejm
20:32.45DrodoEmpireSo I don't think it could practically be just anyone
20:32.54DrodoEmpireNot sure, though
20:45.58DrodoEmpiretest
20:48.18Imperioshttp://img.memecdn.com/i-always-wonder-why-she-always-tries-to-defeat-them_o_229300.jpg
20:48.34DrodoEmpireolol
20:49.34DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Halifaxia - Rewrote some bits
20:55.43DrodoEmpireThoughts?
21:03.03OluapPlayerLooks interesting
21:05.53DrodoEmpireOh thanks
21:06.03DrodoEmpireNow all I need
21:06.13DrodoEmpire*need's a flag and its semi-workable
21:06.36DrodoEmpireI'll keep at it for the next while until its where I want it, though
21:20.19XhoGonna go to bed
21:20.20Xhotired af
21:20.32The_Randomnessgn
21:20.57OluapPlayerrip
21:21.19DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Drodo_Territories - A few edits here too
21:21.52DrodoEmpireBasically, a pretty temperate forest region contained by mountains from every side
21:22.55DrodoEmpireTechnologically the whole region's between 1450s and 1650s Europe
21:24.29DrodoEmpireHalifaxia itself being on the upper end, basically around Thirty Years' War level, maybe a bit earlier
21:24.42DrodoEmpire(so 1600-1620s ish)
21:32.07ImperiosDrodoEmpire: http://imgur.com/a/wuY7D So I was inspired to make some weird alien horses and I thought they could be used for Drodo mounts
21:32.29DrodoEmpireOoh
21:32.43DrodoEmpireI'll consider it
21:33.31DrodoEmpireI mean, in the fictionverse I've sorta figured maybe a close cousin to the Terran Horse species was on Coron due to an intentional/accidental release by DI observers
21:33.38DrodoEmpireSo that *could be* it
21:33.59DrodoEmpireFantasyverse doesn't need quite the same explanation
21:34.45OluapPlayerKoldenwelt has Earth horses in it
21:35.28ImperiosThat was for fictionverse Drodo
21:35.57OluapPlayerOh
21:35.59OluapPlayerMissed that bit
21:36.18OluapPlayeridunno buy them from france or somethin
21:37.05DrodoEmpire:p
21:37.15DrodoEmpireAhh, alright Impy
21:37.26DrodoEmpireYeah then that could be, definitely
21:37.41Imperiosyiy
21:38.08DrodoEmpireThing is that the Drodo had cavalry before they went interstellar, and they continued the tradition- just with robohorses and shielding and advanced weapons like vibroblades
21:38.19DrodoEmpireAll Drodo-mae
21:38.20DrodoEmpire*made
21:38.36DrodoEmpireFrance actually buys most of its infantry and ground stuff from the Drodo Empire <.<
21:38.50DrodoEmpireAnd the DE buys tanks and fighters from France
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22:05.36ImpyDroidHachiman: http://i.imgur.com/iRz17r8l.jpg
22:08.20DrodoEmpire<.<
22:08.25DrodoEmpireI love those >.<
22:08.34DrodoEmpireInnocent quote -> Hitler
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22:19.57MonetAnd back
22:22.36OluapPlayerHi
22:22.42DrodoEmpireHi Monet
22:24.38MonetJust come out from watching Magnificent Seven
22:25.30DrodoEmpireOh?
22:26.36MonetTo use the lingo, that there was a darn fine movie they made there
22:27.13DrodoEmpireHuh
22:28.10Wormy_awayThis would fit the Grox on SporeWiki http://img.memecdn.com/i-always-wonder-why-she-always-tries-to-defeat-them_o_229300.jpg
22:28.20DrodoEmpireayyyyyy lmao
22:28.41The_Randomnesslol
22:31.45MonetOr in the case of the Grox, there's always the next decade
22:31.57DrodoEmpireAlso, in case anybody's curious I spent a lot of time on the Halifaxian military in particular if anybody's curious
22:32.10DrodoEmpireI'll be making up their navy soon, but I have the army more or less done
22:33.34DrodoEmpire(I've given thought to getting rid of the sword-and-buckler men, though)
22:34.10DrodoEmpire(They were an early 16th century thing, and Halifaxia represents the early 17th century)
22:35.21DrodoEmpireAnd for good reason, as by the 1530s muskets were already getting a little too advanced for swordsmen, especially sword-and-shield to really be terribly relevant anymore
22:35.29DrodoEmpireAmong other reasons
22:36.13DrodoEmpireThough...
22:36.19DrodoEmpireThey might make good colonial troops, I dunno
22:42.15MonetMost of Koldenwelt still uses medieval style technology
22:43.31DrodoEmpireRight
22:43.49DrodoEmpireSome places like some of the Drodo Territories and the Empire of Man have early modern
22:43.59DrodoEmpireBut, yeah
22:44.32DrodoEmpireThe reason I say they might be good colonial troops is that tercios, while unstoppable when in the right environment, are inflexible
22:44.45DrodoEmpireThey need relatively flat ground and it needs to be a pitched battle to be worth it
22:45.04DrodoEmpireSwordsmen can be used anywhere and in limited engagement
22:45.07DrodoEmpire*engagements
22:45.22DrodoEmpireI figure in a lot of cases pikemen may also trade in their pikes for polearms as well
22:45.40DrodoEmpireDuring patrols, or in said limited engagements
22:46.26DrodoEmpireSo it doesn't much matter that they're no good in a pitched battle, thanks to how vulnerable they are to cavalry and firearms, as they're great during skirmishes and fights in rough terrain against technologically-inferior enemies
22:50.39DrodoEmpirehttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/Pike_and_shot_model.jpg/800px-Pike_and_shot_model.jpg - Ooh this is nice
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22:55.08Quark8Hello.
22:55.39DrodoEmpireHi
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22:57.06DrodoEmpireHi Monet
22:57.16Quark8Hello Monet2.
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22:58.59Quark8Hello Liquid_ink.
22:59.01DrodoEmpireHi
22:59.27Liquid_InkHey
23:00.16DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Halifaxia - In case you or Quark are interested
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23:00.32DrodoEmpireHi Tyb
23:01.09DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Halifaxia - Also you Tyb
23:02.09Wormy_awayhttp://satwcomic.com/topic/10717
23:03.09TybusenHello
23:03.17DrodoEmpireWormy_away: savage
23:03.53TybusenDrodoEmpire: Fantas-eh
23:03.57DrodoEmpire<.<
23:04.13Wormy_awayI do notice fluff on my eggs sometimes
23:06.34DrodoEmpireHm
23:06.43DrodoEmpireHalifaxian military seems stuck between two places
23:06.58DrodoEmpireDoesn't know whether to be on the earlier bit of the pike-and-shot era or the later bit
23:07.29DrodoEmpireI touched on this earlier with its sword-and-buckler men, and I concluded that they'd be useful colonial troops
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23:08.05Liquid_InkWhoops
23:08.13DrodoEmpireTwo-handed swords are a pretty stark relic of the 16th century, though
23:08.16DrodoEmpireEarly pike-and-shot
23:08.21DrodoEmpireSo I might nix them
23:09.14DrodoEmpire(They ceased to be used in a battlefield application by the 1550s, and while sword-and-buckler men were more or less obsolete by the 1530s I don't see longswordsmen having the same usefulness in overseas conflicts)
23:10.37DrodoEmpireI could have Halifaxia be in a transitional period, i guess
23:10.38DrodoEmpire*I
23:11.08DrodoEmpireWhere they're beginning to phase out stuff like longswordsmen as muskets become more advanced and pikes become more standardised
23:11.18DrodoEmpireAnd cavalry begin to be deadly again, and so on
23:12.03TybusenSounds roughly like Renaissance Europe warfare
23:12.29DrodoEmpireThat's exactly what it is <.<
23:12.43DrodoEmpireEarly-modern period Europe is more or less what the Drodo Territories are based around
23:12.49DrodoEmpireVery loosely
23:13.55DrodoEmpireI've made Halifaxia in particular be a very close study of early modern warfare
23:15.10DrodoEmpireHell, I sorta want to write a short story now
23:17.33Wormy_awayDrodo: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14572936_1771341846459090_418855454379542958_n.jpg?oh=8efcec95144d3df61b132ba553070f43&oe=58A3B204
23:17.44DrodoEmpireayyyy lmao
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23:20.36TybusenI kind of want to get back into Fantasyverse but there's so much lore now and I'm not sure if my old Fantasy fic has a place in the current Fantasyverse
23:21.19DrodoEmpireAhh
23:24.04TybusenI had the idea before of having a couple of traveling characters but I'd need to catch up with the entire Fantasyverse to make that work
23:24.46DrodoEmpireNot *necessarily*
23:25.02DrodoEmpireNo need to read the whole thing- read what interests or is relevant to your upcoming story and go from there
23:25.11DrodoEmpireThat's what I do with both fictionverses
23:26.18TybusenRight but there's a lot to digest right now and I don't have time for all of that
23:26.26DrodoEmpireAh, fair enough
23:26.55TybusenBetween school and wanting to keep my First Gig fictions updated I don't have a lot of time to read the Fantasyverse fictions
23:27.10TybusenAnd they're all pretty thick so I end up not bothering
23:28.50DrodoEmpireRight, right
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23:34.09Kabloeypotato
23:34.55Tybusentomato
23:35.21DrodoEmpireHi.
23:35.24Wormy_awaynightshade
23:35.34KabloeyEyy
23:36.46Quark8Hello Kabloey.
23:37.01KabloeyHelloooo
23:41.35Kabloeyjust wondering how you guys are doing in.... i don't know, it's morning sunday for me
23:41.42DrodoEmpireI'm alright
23:41.53DrodoEmpireIts 8:41 PM here in Nova Scotia
23:43.16Quark8I'm fine as well.
23:43.33Quark8I'm an hour behind DrodoEmpire.
23:43.39DrodoEmpireAh
23:44.15Quark8How're you, Kabloey?
23:47.39Monethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sEJeWB3RA8 yayy
23:50.07Kabloeydoing fine, just trying to NOT being lazy so that i can upload another creature page.... and grab breakfast
23:50.46DrodoEmpireAhh, good good
23:58.22DrodoEmpireI've been writing more on my fantasyverse fiction, and also a short story
23:59.54Quark8What are your plans for it?

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