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00:55.06 | Quark8 | Hello. |
01:01.21 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
01:08.00 | Quark8 | How're you? |
01:08.10 | DrodoEmpire | I'm alright |
01:10.12 | Quark8 | That's good. |
01:10.46 | Quark8 | I just got my glasses, which is great (means that the high chance of me being half-blind is now gone). |
01:10.50 | Quark8 | :) |
01:12.32 | DrodoEmpire | Ah, great |
01:12.37 | DrodoEmpire | Welcome to the club <.< |
01:12.56 | Quark8 | ^_^ |
01:13.23 | Quark8 | In other news, I started fencing classes. |
01:19.37 | DrodoEmpire | Oh? |
01:19.47 | DrodoEmpire | Sport-fencing, I presume? |
01:20.27 | Quark8 | Yeah. |
01:20.39 | DrodoEmpire | Ah, very nice |
01:20.57 | DrodoEmpire | (Didn't think it was with full-on rapiers, but I figured I'd ask >.<) |
01:22.23 | Quark8 | Right. |
01:24.54 | Quark8 | I find it fun, though I'm far from god at it. |
01:37.40 | Quark8 | Night all. |
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09:59.20 | Treebeard | Hello |
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12:18.23 | dino82_ | hi |
12:19.34 | Monet | hi |
12:21.21 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
12:21.45 | OluapPlayer | Monet: Are you available for a session zero at around 10pm or later? |
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12:32.16 | NeonPanda | Discworld fans: what's the name of the turtle the rest of the world is riding on? |
12:34.46 | OluapPlayer | NeonPanda: Are you available for a session zero later? |
12:34.58 | NeonPanda | OluapPlayer: define later in terms of hours |
12:35.14 | OluapPlayer | Saturday morning |
12:35.17 | OluapPlayer | your time |
12:37.41 | NeonPanda | should be |
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12:50.47 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Yeah I should be good. |
12:52.38 | Monet | BTW regarding roles I could be a cleric |
12:56.41 | OluapPlayer | Right |
13:16.18 | NeonPanda | Monet: while building an atmospheric carrier in Space Engineers, I may have made a giant turtle |
13:17.40 | Monet | Lol |
13:17.50 | Monet | Flying turtle of doom? |
13:19.27 | NeonPanda | kinda |
13:19.39 | NeonPanda | it's mostly going to serve as a mining base |
13:20.00 | NeonPanda | cos forget dealing with space spider attacks 24/7 |
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13:22.52 | Hachiman | Hi |
13:22.57 | Treebeard | Hello |
13:23.34 | Monet | Hello |
13:24.43 | NeonPanda | hi u |
13:25.41 | Hachiman | Not gonna be super available today because it's my sister's birthday |
13:25.57 | Hachiman | I'll be able to make the session later though |
13:30.36 | NeonPanda | Hachiman: Monet mentioned considering a cleric so that's a possible thing |
13:30.45 | Hachiman | Nice |
13:33.43 | Hachiman | Take a look at what domains you wanna use and then consult Oluap about what dwarven gods there are in his Dorf Fort world |
13:34.38 | Hachiman | I'm personally a serious follower of the dwarven god Ad Ebollek, aka Ad Grizzlebristles, the dwarven god of lightning, storms, the rain and rainbows |
13:34.59 | OluapPlayer | For the sake of simplicity Monet should probably base him around stock Pathfinder gods |
13:35.04 | OluapPlayer | himself* |
13:36.18 | NeonPanda | deities are actually somethign I hadn't considered, not entirely relevant for my character but potentially useful background info |
13:36.54 | OluapPlayer | The world has gods I generated with the game. But these are for flavour only |
13:38.14 | Monet | I can take a look a little later |
13:38.33 | OluapPlayer | You can during the session |
13:38.59 | Hachiman | http://www.archivesofnethys.com/DeitiesByGroup.aspx Good list of deities here, separated by pantheon |
13:39.04 | Hachiman | Including a dwarven pantheon |
13:40.21 | Monet | Thanks |
13:45.39 | Hachiman | Meanwhile I'm playing a drow in my other group's Underdark campaign |
13:48.22 | Hachiman | Or rather, a half-drow Witch acolyte of Lolth who was adopted by a lesser drow noble house because reasons pertaining to political BS or something; I'm essentially in charge of the rest of the party since they're either playing greenskin slaves or a male drow enforcer (Ninja) |
13:51.57 | NeonPanda | there is a lot in that sentence that makes me giggle, back in a minute |
13:52.40 | Hachiman | hur |
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13:54.00 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
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13:55.04 | NeonPanda_ | back |
13:56.57 | NeonPanda_ | also Hachiman: I think my rogue actually does more damage on average than Cezar did at level 3 |
13:57.03 | Hachiman | Jesus what |
13:58.30 | NeonPanda_ | assuming both attacks hit and I'm flanking, I deal 4d6+6 damage |
13:59.28 | Hachiman | Nice |
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14:04.34 | Cyrannian | Hai |
14:04.37 | OluapPlayer | ~punch Cyrannian |
14:04.39 | infobot | ACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyrannian right on the nose |
14:04.44 | Cyrannian | ~tickle OluapPlayer |
14:04.44 | infobot | ACTION jumps on OluapPlayer, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
14:05.04 | Cyrannian | I was wondering how you got mods to work on Steam Spore |
14:06.17 | OluapPlayer | Same as normal Spore |
14:07.01 | Cyrannian | Mine isn't working for some reason, are you putting the package files in the SporeEP1 folder? |
14:08.47 | OluapPlayer | No, put them on DataEP1 |
14:09.14 | Cyrannian | Hm, so did I |
14:10.17 | OluapPlayer | Are you trying to install Dark Injection? |
14:10.58 | Cyrannian | Yes, as well as a couple of other mods |
14:11.30 | OluapPlayer | The files named "Arenas" go on Data |
14:11.35 | OluapPlayer | Everything else goes on DataEP1 |
14:14.25 | Cyrannian | I'll give it a go |
14:21.45 | Cyrannian | Bah I think I'll just reinstall my disc Spore. It always becomes messed up when I update Windows 10 |
14:22.00 | Cyrannian | Ghelae: I don't suppose you had that problem again after the recent update? |
14:22.10 | OluapPlayer | You're doing something wrong, mine works fine |
14:22.43 | Cyrannian | Haven't tried your solution, the game isn't launching |
14:24.45 | Ghelae | I haven't actually been on Spore since the update. |
14:24.52 | Ghelae | does so |
14:25.20 | Cyrannian | Once again I can't remember our solution. Was it just reinstalling it? |
14:27.00 | Ghelae | It seems to be working fine for me. And I think reinstalling it was the only thing I ever had to do to fix it not working. |
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14:28.54 | Wormydroid | Hi |
14:28.59 | Cyrannian | Hi |
14:29.47 | Wormydroid | Ghelae did your bit of uni supply all these free lunches of pizza? |
14:30.47 | Ghelae | Not very often, but I believe computer scientists do survive solely on pizza, so it makes sense that they'd have more available around where they're working. |
14:31.14 | Wormydroid | Lol, that seems to be the case |
14:31.32 | Ghelae | The main free food provided for NatSci was at Christmas. Chocolate, cakes, mince pies, etc. |
14:31.55 | Wormydroid | Computer scientists need to survive off of some much pizza in a day |
14:32.18 | Wormydroid | We've had plenty of cakes too |
14:36.38 | Wormydroid | So I was learning UNIX for the first time today and I get this crowd of undergrad first years in awe of me using the ugly command line |
14:37.09 | Wormydroid | Of course,vI had no idea what was goibg on either |
14:37.29 | Wormydroid | Well, just enough to explore directories in it |
14:38.24 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer NeonPanda_ Monet: So, I just rediscovered that the White Lions of Chrace are a thing |
14:38.47 | OluapPlayer | Never heard of |
14:39.20 | Monet | OluapPlayer: High Elf warriors who fight in tandem with albino lions. |
14:39.36 | Hachiman | White Lions of Chrace being a personal guard unit serving under the Phoenix King of the High Elves in WH:FB who wield two-handed axes and have giant white war lions as companions and mounts |
14:39.49 | OluapPlayer | Ah, WFB |
14:39.59 | OluapPlayer | No wonder I've not heard of it |
14:40.16 | Monet | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfb/images/3/3e/Highelves_whitelions.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140805172711 |
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14:40.39 | Monet | Not only do they ride and fight with white lions, they all wear lion-mane mantles. |
14:40.54 | Hachiman | They're perhaps the manliest elves I've seen |
14:41.30 | Monet | http://i45.tinypic.com/21b80pk.png "A fucking lion is my shoulderguard" |
14:42.39 | Hachiman | Who says elves cannot be strength fighters eh |
14:43.14 | Monet | I recall they use axes because Chrace is a timber kingdom. |
14:43.26 | Hachiman | Yeah |
14:43.49 | Monet | http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics16/img4f9864588a635.jpg I'VE SEEN THINGS |
14:44.11 | Hachiman | They were initially woodsmen who saved the Phoenix King Caledor I from a Dark Elf assassination plot |
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14:45.52 | Hachiman | Wish I could somehow build a working stronk elf build in Pathfinder |
14:46.01 | Hachiman | Although it'll never be optimal |
14:46.11 | Hachiman | Hi Imp, we were just discussing the White Lions of Chrace |
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14:57.48 | Cyrannian | bbl |
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15:00.36 | Treebeard | Hello |
15:00.59 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
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15:06.53 | Wormydroid | So something really random happened to me in town, I got stopped by an Indian man who tried to prophesise my future desires from my forehead, and that I was hungry. I told him I was hubgry for knowledge, but he said I was hungry for love. Then he started saying he was hungry and would tell me more and I quickly guessed he wanted my money |
15:07.25 | OluapPlayer | ImpyDroid2: http://i.imgur.com/h9htZJY.jpg |
15:07.31 | Wormydroid | I managed to escape by telling him my train was late and rushibg off, I look back and he us staring at me |
15:07.53 | Monet | The old psychic trick of "I'm going to vaguely guess what you want and I will be right!" |
15:08.39 | Wormydroid | I know that in India ypu can't walk very far before getting stopped like this, like the 'shit on yoyr shoes' shoesgine boys who sneak a poo on your shoe |
15:09.02 | Wormydroid | Didn't work for him because I tokd him what I was hungry for lol |
15:09.04 | Hachiman | Cold reading, that's called |
15:09.22 | Wormydroid | And hungry for love, me seriously? |
15:09.37 | Monet | Hachiman: That's the term |
15:09.53 | Hachiman | You never struck me as a man who desired love |
15:10.06 | Hachiman | Other than maybe Ghelae's |
15:10.10 | Monet | Wormydroid: You're young. Society demands you require a girlfriend |
15:10.21 | OluapPlayer | Wormy + Ghelae OTP |
15:12.31 | Wormydroid | I'm happy living alone and getting existential crises from a mixture of poor sleep, deep thinking and isolation |
15:13.15 | Monet | Unfortunately for this Indian man, education tends to be inversely proportional to the desire for partnership or family. |
15:14.21 | Wormydroid | I think he either wanted my money so he could getvlunchbor was advertising some sham class |
15:14.26 | DrodoEmpire | Eh, its more like wealth and education are inversely proportional to fertility and crude birth rate <.< |
15:14.44 | Wormydroid | Website wubscription or whatever |
15:15.06 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: I was half-right. |
15:15.19 | DrodoEmpire | Sorta yeah |
15:15.28 | Wormydroid | Today was not his lucky daycbecause I don't fit in his trick, and am not very warm or sympathetic |
15:16.10 | DrodoEmpire | I mean I'm sure there're plenty of people who don't desire a relationship because of their successful career but I'd figure they're a minority |
15:16.24 | Wormydroid | Or maybe he was coming on to me lol |
15:16.43 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
15:16.59 | Hachiman | I'm just convinced that there are people who exist that just simply don't feel the need or want for love |
15:17.08 | Hachiman | That doesn't make them bad people |
15:17.58 | DrodoEmpire | Sure |
15:18.04 | Hachiman | Also the fact that sex = / = love and not many people understand that |
15:18.12 | DrodoEmpire | And it doesn't, just saying that's a minority of people |
15:18.12 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
15:18.15 | OluapPlayer | u included |
15:18.28 | DrodoEmpire | savage |
15:18.28 | Wormydroid | To be honest I am an introverted person who only needs a few people at best to chat to or drink with |
15:19.33 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
15:20.02 | Wormydroid | My desire is my own self development and freedom, as such I feel nothing towards the stress of a relationship |
15:20.52 | Wormydroid | Yet my mother keeps pestering me to makw the next generation |
15:21.04 | Hachiman | I imagine that nowadays, it's become more prevalent than before that there is a high number of young people who do not want children in their lives in the near or far future |
15:21.14 | Hachiman | Such as myself, can't stand kids and they're not very liberating |
15:21.29 | Wormydroid | Wpyld be a shamevif 4 billion years of evolution and the elite that survived would end wirh me tho |
15:21.40 | Wormydroid | Thats my only motivation |
15:21.53 | Monet | The average age women are starting families and having kids (not including teen pregnancies) is nearing/around the 30s |
15:22.20 | Hachiman | Plus my sister has already had multiple children so I don't need to pass on my genes if they live content lives |
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15:22.32 | dino82_ | darn, keep getting disconnected |
15:22.54 | DrodoEmpire | Its all due to the vast increase in quality of life |
15:23.19 | Wormydroid | Yes, enough of your genes should be shared in a large distribution like that |
15:23.24 | DrodoEmpire | And, with current trends, developing countries will start to see the same decrease, much faster than it did here |
15:23.41 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
15:23.44 | DrodoEmpire | Which for them in particular will be a very very good thing |
15:24.02 | Hachiman | I've been tempted towards finding a sperm bank and robbing it |
15:24.08 | DrodoEmpire | ey laymo |
15:24.24 | OluapPlayer | ghey |
15:24.29 | Hachiman | non ur ghey |
15:24.33 | Wormydroid | Then again, maybe actibg against our genetic drive, especially if you don't have siblings and nephews/nieces is a form of free will |
15:25.39 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
15:26.12 | Hachiman | Are they keeping it in the family or |
15:26.28 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
15:26.31 | Wormydroid | I happen to be the last of a line of one of my surnames, since my cousin's had theirs changed in marriage |
15:26.32 | Hachiman | Ah |
15:26.47 | Wormydroid | I also have that pressure |
15:26.47 | Monet | That and said cousins are just unpleasant. |
15:27.56 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
15:28.09 | Hachiman | "what was the dumbest shit you ever did" "winning the sperm race" |
15:29.36 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
15:29.46 | Hachiman | Right gotta go I think |
15:30.14 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
15:31.03 | Wormydroid | Hm |
15:31.42 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
15:33.16 | Wormydroid | I keep having these funny things happen every Friday when I return home |
15:34.50 | Wormydroid | Last time, a loud grandmother shouting at her kids was on rhe train, before getting off she asked everyone if her child deserved a pound, so rhis bloke got up and asked "Does Granny deserve a pound"? Everyone said no andclaughed at her as she was getting off |
15:35.14 | Wormydroid | It was hilarious |
15:36.05 | Wormydroid | Basically every complaint she had about her grandkids was broadcasted at the top of her voice |
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15:38.37 | DrodoEmpire | Back >.< |
15:38.49 | DrodoEmpire | I love the little details in Insurgency |
15:39.37 | Tek0516 | Gah. I have assignments for four different courses all due at once. >.< |
15:39.39 | DrodoEmpire | For example, while almost every other gun fires "instantly" (as soon as you click), the revolver in the game actually has a very small delay, something like a one-hundredth of a second, coded in between when you click and when the gun fires |
15:41.13 | Wormydroid | Does it make a noticeable difference or is it am easter egg? |
15:41.18 | Wormydroid | An |
15:41.32 | OluapPlayer | Isn't that just input delay? |
15:41.39 | DrodoEmpire | Nah, besides input delay |
15:41.47 | DrodoEmpire | It has a hardcoded delay, as with real revolvers |
15:42.04 | DrodoEmpire | I don't use the revolver enough to really know, put probably |
15:42.14 | DrodoEmpire | Close-range gunfights can be finished in under a second |
15:42.22 | DrodoEmpire | *but |
15:43.02 | DrodoEmpire | I prefer to use one of the automatic pistols like the M9 or 1911 personally |
15:43.05 | Monet | A fraction of a second can make considerable difference. |
15:43.10 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
15:43.52 | Wormydroid | The brain is actually quite goid at picking up delays in audible or visual input |
15:44.08 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, that is true |
15:44.13 | DrodoEmpire | I'll try using it more to see if I notice |
15:44.29 | Wormydroid | You can tell if some frames are lost in an animation |
15:44.46 | DrodoEmpire | (Its just that in Insurgency you *never* want to be in a position where you're forced to use your sidearm >.<) |
15:45.20 | DrodoEmpire | Actually on delays in sound, one of my favourite things in Insurgency has to be that it simulates the speed of sound |
15:46.05 | DrodoEmpire | I saw an RPG shot that nearly hit me go long, and it flew across the map and blew up against a hillside- not only was the explosion spectacular I only heard the noise a good half-second later |
15:46.53 | Wormydroid | Cool |
15:48.51 | Wormydroid | So I've been looking at this new game called Astroneers, the devs are doing their best to cull the hype |
15:48.54 | NeonPanda_ | slightly related note, I remember sitting down and playing MW2 with the actual army person who staffed my cadet unit, when we got up to the "swap to your sidearm, it's faster than reloading" part he just said "holy shit Americans are bad at reloading" |
15:48.54 | Wormydroid | https://m.reddit.com/r/Astroneer/comments/54rj0f/will_there_be_alien_life/ |
15:49.23 | Monet | NeonPanda_: Lol! |
15:49.28 | DrodoEmpire | NeonPanda: hur |
15:49.48 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: Sad thing is though is that I think if more games tried to implement sound delay people would just complain that their game audio seemed to be lagging. >.> |
15:50.02 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah at first anyway |
15:50.09 | DrodoEmpire | Because people are, you know, fucking idiots |
15:50.10 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
15:50.12 | NeonPanda_ | this may in part be due to the fact that the Australian infantry is not in fact issued a sidearm so they kinda don't have a choice except to reload quickly |
15:50.21 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
15:50.51 | DrodoEmpire | Wormydroid: Probably a reaction to the NMS fiasco |
15:50.55 | DrodoEmpire | Good though |
15:51.15 | Monet | Well as they say |
15:51.17 | NeonPanda_ | one of the quartermasters at Enoggera literally reloads as fast as the "Fast Hands" perk |
15:51.31 | Monet | Children play CoD, boys play Battlefield, man play ArmA. |
15:51.46 | NeonPanda_ | so I've never shit-talked perks or mods that increase reload speed as "unrealistic" |
15:51.47 | Wormydroid | It is, largely because a large ex player Base is movibg onto their forums |
15:52.02 | DrodoEmpire | NeonPanda: Fair enough |
15:53.09 | Wormydroid | NMS didn't live up to my expectations but I still can put hours into playing un a day |
15:53.10 | Wormydroid | In |
15:53.28 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
15:54.01 | NeonPanda_ | apparently NMS is actually facing industry-driven legal action |
15:54.20 | DrodoEmpire | Hm, I wonder if I should make an equipment inventory for the Union (Drodo Quadrant Colonies), maybe more specifically New Aratacia |
15:54.45 | NeonPanda_ | actually, speaking of communities being unhappy about things, Warframe |
15:54.58 | Wormydroid | It is under investigation last I checked |
15:55.25 | NeonPanda_ | holy shit have I never seen a more divided, vitriolic community that's completely justified, speckled with newbs who have no idea why everyone bursts into rage with every minor bad thing DE does |
15:55.55 | DrodoEmpire | Probably a lot of the same stuff as with the rest of the Empire, but I had an idea that N.A militia may use a (locally produced?) revolver as opposed to an automatic pistol, and their marksmen might use a military variant of a hunting rifle, or an modernised version of an ancient, bolt-action military rifle |
15:55.59 | NeonPanda_ | there hasn't been a positive change in that game in over a year, and the young punks wonder why the veterans are constantly complaining :P |
15:56.07 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
15:56.14 | DrodoEmpire | Is it really that bad? >.< |
15:56.22 | DrodoEmpire | I've only ever heard the name Warframe |
15:56.57 | NeonPanda_ | don't get me wrong, the core gameplay is and always was fantastic, but there's a couple of major flaws and a dumptruck worth of frustrating design choices that DE either pretends don't exist, or they pass it off as not actually a problem |
15:57.43 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
15:57.58 | NeonPanda_ | the biggest flaw being damage scaling, which is really strangling the veteran community because there's nothing genuinely difficult in the game anymore, just stuff that you actually can't kill without a ridiculously optimised cheese build, |
15:58.15 | NeonPanda_ | and DE keeps trying to nerf/remove cheese builds without actually doing anything to solve the problem that causes them |
15:58.55 | DrodoEmpire | Hm |
15:58.59 | Charles_Murray | What kind of game is Warframe? |
15:59.09 | NeonPanda_ | third person shooter primarily |
16:00.02 | NeonPanda_ | and a beautiful one at that, it focuses primarily on use of movement, so you get these beautiful moments where you're practically (and in my case literally cos melee stance :P) dancing across the battlefield |
16:00.33 | Monet | Robot Ninjas who are masters with using guns and traditional weapons in tandem. Along with a bit of space magic. |
16:00.34 | Charles_Murray | PTW, PTP? |
16:00.56 | NeonPanda_ | FTP, no PTW elements but veeeeery grindy if you don't know what you're doing |
16:01.27 | NeonPanda_ | still grindy if you do know what you're doing, just less so |
16:01.34 | Monet | I wonder if Warframe works as to an analogy of how battles often go on Sporewiki. |
16:01.50 | Monet | (ground battles and duels psecifically) |
16:01.55 | Monet | specifically* |
16:02.09 | NeonPanda_ | Warframe is something of an analogy to my style, not really the wiki as a whole from my experience |
16:02.28 | Monet | It might be for the more supernatural bits. |
16:02.38 | NeonPanda_ | any reason you're asking specifics Charles? |
16:02.49 | Charles_Murray | Ehh, I'm currently between games |
16:03.01 | NeonPanda_ | well don't get into warframe XD |
16:03.01 | Charles_Murray | So I'm looking for something to really sink my teeth into |
16:03.06 | Charles_Murray | Oh? |
16:03.32 | Monet | If you ignore the whiny newb-base, its hella addictive. |
16:03.54 | NeonPanda_ | it takes a lot of investment to have the resources needed to really get anywhere, in terms of appropriate weapons, mods, e.t.c. |
16:04.32 | NeonPanda_ | if you're looking for something to casually waste time on go for it, but don't expect a ton of depth |
16:05.06 | Monet | The physics engine is quite fun. |
16:05.27 | Monet | Slicey-slicey with a sword and watch those bisected bodies fly. |
16:05.44 | Charles_Murray | You mentioned it has a progression system with correct builds and such, though? |
16:06.17 | NeonPanda_ | by "correct" I mean 50% obligatory mods and the rest is designed to exploit a couple of mechanics to remove gameplay interely |
16:06.19 | NeonPanda_ | entirely* |
16:06.54 | NeonPanda_ | like, high level missions typically consist of standing in the middle of the room occasionally pushing one or two buttons while everything dies, because trying to actually play the game will get you killed |
16:08.15 | NeonPanda_ | let me elaborate; as the enemys' level goes up, their damage, health and damage resistance scale exponentially. After 40 minutes or so in an endless mission (basically the only way to get meaningful rewards), enemies have such a massive health pool and such high health that the only reasonable way to kill them is abuse AoE armour shred and room clear abilities |
16:08.33 | NeonPanda_ | because they do so much damage that even when that one warframe could give the whole cell a 99% damage resistance buff, you still got one-shot |
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16:08.54 | Monet | Sounds like Asteroids. |
16:09.10 | DrodoEmpire | That just sounds like a shit system >.< |
16:09.34 | NeonPanda_ | DrodoEmpire: and now you know why the veteran warframe community is mad |
16:09.44 | DrodoEmpire | True, true |
16:09.49 | NeonPanda_ | it's been like that literally since release and they still haven't even addressed that fundamental flaw |
16:10.11 | Monet | Though those sorts of missions I think offer you "keep going or take your reward" options every 10 waves. |
16:10.19 | DrodoEmpire | So basically its a great game idea that's marred by a bad developer and poor execution |
16:10.30 | NeonPanda_ | Monet: every five minutes, on a four cycle track, yes |
16:10.56 | NeonPanda_ | however, accessing each of those missions requires a key which is consumed on use |
16:11.17 | NeonPanda_ | higher level keys requiring at least a 15 minute survival on their own to acquire |
16:11.38 | NeonPanda_ | and yeah, Drodo, it's a great game dragged down by poor execution in a lot of areas |
16:12.25 | NeonPanda_ | like don't get me wrong, as I've said its core gameplay is amazing, jaw-droppingly so, but it's such a bugger to get to that stage |
16:12.48 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh, makes sense |
16:13.01 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah sounds like a really cool idea, unique |
16:13.41 | NeonPanda_ | like, my preferred build was a melee-only setup with a giant greatsword, the moveset I had for it basically turning melee combat into a ballet (it's called Tempo Royale and everything) |
16:14.07 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
16:14.24 | NeonPanda_ | what did I have to do to make it work? No less than seven event-only mods that can only be acquired in trade chat nowadays, three that are outright discontinued, |
16:15.08 | NeonPanda_ | and the fact that there basically becomes a point where I don't do damage anymore because slash damage does basically nothing to most enemies |
16:15.16 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
16:15.36 | NeonPanda_ | they managed to make me feel bad for using a giant flaming space sword, and that's kind of a problem |
16:15.37 | Tek0516 | Bah. I'm supposed to answer a question for this but there's no explanation of it on the course notes AND I can't even find the stuff on Google. >.> |
16:16.19 | NeonPanda_ | and I have to say, the reason I'm so passionate about it is I LOVED that game, loved it to bits, but just as soon as I had enough stuff that I could really enjoy it, the cracks started piling up |
16:16.46 | DrodoEmpire | Hm |
16:18.24 | NeonPanda_ | and the community came up with so many reasonable fixes for a lot of the minor problems, then DE kinda "fixes" them without actually addressing the problem, melee being a huge example of that |
16:18.55 | NeonPanda_ | for a really long time, the "Sword Alone" playstyle was something that was advertised as a core way to play the game, but the playstyle existed only because the people who played it forced it to happen |
16:19.32 | NeonPanda_ | it was objectively weaker than a gun-based playstyle despite the extra risk involved, so you had to really fine-tune your build, use a select number of warframes and weapons, e.t.c. |
16:20.22 | NeonPanda_ | all people really wanted that would have made a big deal is increasing the amount of time you have to continue a hit chain (if you hit enough enemies within a certain period of time you start to get damage multipliers) |
16:20.32 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
16:20.45 | NeonPanda_ | so DE introduced a mod that added +12 seconds to the combo meter, rather than actually just increasing the time on the combo meter |
16:21.31 | NeonPanda_ | they then also added a mod that multiplied critical chance by your current combo multiplier, thus skyrocketing critical-based weapons into the stratosphere in terms of power, and dwarfing anything with poor base crit |
16:22.11 | NeonPanda_ | another example of "fixing" the problem without actually fixing anything, and even making the problem of weapon diversity work (it was already hard to justify using a non-crit melee weapon due to several crit-based mods) |
16:22.17 | NeonPanda_ | worse* not work |
16:23.31 | NeonPanda_ | so sure, they managed to make melee weapon damage relevant again, scale somewhat properly and made the combo counter system work, but by that point every single melee weapon uses the same mods in six of eight slots |
16:24.25 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
16:25.38 | NeonPanda_ | I just realised I went on a massive rant, sorry about that |
16:26.29 | Monet | We all have our massive rants |
16:26.44 | OluapPlayer | There's nothing else being said atm so |
16:27.39 | NeonPanda_ | I just adored that game because for a very short period of time, the thematic and mechanical elements of the game lined up perfectly and it was amazing, and since then I've been watching the game slowly bleed out, narrated by a sarcastic irish youtuber |
16:28.07 | DrodoEmpire | Ah >.< |
16:28.11 | NeonPanda_ | like if two and a half years ago you'd asked me what's warframe I'd have said why are you not playing warframe right now |
16:28.19 | DrodoEmpire | Right, right |
16:31.27 | Charles_Murray | I personally wish I could play classic WoW >.< |
16:33.37 | Monet | I was there all those years ago |
16:33.51 | NeonPanda_ | I'd second that, specifically classic WoW back in the day, rather than a nostalgia server |
16:34.27 | OluapPlayer | And I wish I could go back to TF2 before it became microtransaction-fest |
16:35.26 | Charles_Murray | I had TF2 before it went FTP |
16:35.30 | Charles_Murray | Good times |
16:35.33 | Monet | i'll bbl |
16:36.00 | NeonPanda_ | I think the one thing I'd like to go back to most though would be either Halo 3 custom games back in the golden days, or classic runescape |
16:36.52 | DrodoEmpire | Hm, I dunno what I'd do gaming-wise if I had the chance in that way |
16:37.00 | DrodoEmpire | I have a slight feeling GMod had better days |
16:37.04 | DrodoEmpire | But I dunno |
16:37.19 | DrodoEmpire | DarkRP is still that little festering tumour everyone knows and loves |
16:37.27 | Charles_Murray | NeonPanda_ Classing runescape is still alive actuay |
16:37.29 | Charles_Murray | actually |
16:37.42 | Charles_Murray | They run and maintain a build of the game from 2007 |
16:37.49 | NeonPanda_ | again, I mean going back to the day, rather than just playing on the game build |
16:38.03 | Charles_Murray | Ahh, what's ruined it for you? |
16:38.05 | Charles_Murray | GE? |
16:38.50 | NeonPanda_ | yeah, but also I don't really know how to put it, but there was this point in time where some of the minigames got a bit less enjoyable |
16:39.11 | Charles_Murray | I logged onto runescape recently |
16:39.15 | NeonPanda_ | used to love Pest Control to bits, was in a clan that just specialised in it and we were known across the server for it |
16:39.24 | Charles_Murray | The game is jaw-droppingly different |
16:40.18 | Charles_Murray | They seem to have substituted the gritty and immersive aesthetic for a self-referential and wonderland-like ethos which would only appeal to 5 year old >.< |
16:40.48 | NeonPanda_ | runescape was never that gritty :P but I'll take your word for it on the stylisation |
16:41.02 | NeonPanda_ | which btw I tend to prefer stylised over realistic, so that might not actually be a negative for me |
16:41.09 | NeonPanda_ | unless it's full on disney |
16:41.56 | Charles_Murray | Well it was always stylized, but in a boxy and faded way; The game mechanics were simple, unforgiving, and very often blunt |
16:42.04 | Charles_Murray | They posed a challenge |
16:42.08 | NeonPanda_ | I hear you there |
16:42.09 | Charles_Murray | This is full on Disney |
16:42.14 | NeonPanda_ | ah, right |
16:42.16 | NeonPanda_ | in that case ew |
16:42.23 | NeonPanda_ | OH GOD YOU BROUGHT BACK MEMORIES |
16:42.29 | Charles_Murray | Oh? |
16:42.43 | NeonPanda_ | I was that one guy who didn't really bother with his strength level much, but I had very high attack and defence |
16:42.47 | Charles_Murray | (Bright colors, sparkles, hats, dancing, everything) |
16:42.50 | Charles_Murray | (I'm not even kidding) |
16:43.15 | NeonPanda_ | so whenever I went into pvp with other melee people, I nearly always won because they hit a lot less than I did, despite them ranting on me because I only had 40 strength XD |
16:43.43 | NeonPanda_ | (for the non-runescapers, for some reason Strength was seen as the combat stat that actually mattered, so it was the phallus replacement de jour for measuring) |
16:43.44 | Charles_Murray | olol |
16:45.05 | NeonPanda_ | but yeah, I got a surprising amount of fulfilment out of that game, the social aspect especially |
16:45.14 | NeonPanda_ | house parties were a blast |
16:45.19 | Charles_Murray | ^^^^^ |
16:45.34 | Charles_Murray | I liked farming for some reason |
16:45.40 | Charles_Murray | For like a whole 3 days |
16:45.47 | Charles_Murray | Then went back to playing the game xD |
16:46.06 | NeonPanda_ | I was mostly a fisher, got my cape and everything |
16:46.16 | Charles_Murray | Runescape's crafting system is still intact, though |
16:46.34 | NeonPanda_ | but I also did a ton of minigames and questing |
16:46.46 | NeonPanda_ | most of the time when I levelled up a skill it was to unlock a quest |
16:46.54 | Charles_Murray | I wish other games had something comparable, one of Runescape's greatest strengths is that economy |
16:47.43 | NeonPanda_ | here's one for you: what did you do to make money? |
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16:47.56 | Quark8 | Hello. |
16:48.13 | Charles_Murray | NeonPanda I found it on the ground |
16:48.26 | Charles_Murray | Literally one day I came across something like 300k outside of lumbridge |
16:48.30 | Charles_Murray | Never needed money again |
16:48.35 | NeonPanda_ | wow |
16:49.01 | NeonPanda_ | for me it was cannonballs, bought a ton of steel, smelted it into cannonballs, sold it again |
16:49.12 | Charles_Murray | Niice |
16:49.23 | NeonPanda_ | usually made twice my money back, funded a whole set of dragon armour in a day |
16:49.23 | Charles_Murray | What were those for, btw? |
16:49.35 | NeonPanda_ | dwarven multicannons, basically a turret |
16:49.42 | Charles_Murray | Ahh |
16:50.45 | NeonPanda_ | it was rather funny when I actually discovered that method, the day before I was talking to my clanmates about how I never really made that much money, then two days later I walk into a house party in full dragon XD |
16:51.50 | Charles_Murray | *crappy pop music plays while character walks in slomo* |
16:51.55 | Charles_Murray | *all heads turn* |
16:52.01 | NeonPanda_ | basically XD |
16:52.07 | Charles_Murray | xD |
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16:52.09 | NeonPanda_ | were you ever a member? |
16:52.24 | Charles_Murray | Yeah, for a couple years |
16:52.30 | Charles_Murray | That game was my childhood xD |
16:52.39 | NeonPanda_ | did you ever go to a non-member world decked out in member gear? |
16:52.59 | Charles_Murray | Nah, I was more of a solo player |
16:53.14 | NeonPanda_ | I have never had so many people offer to be my girlfriend |
16:53.30 | Charles_Murray | Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffff |
16:55.01 | Charles_Murray | NeonPanda_ https://gyazo.com/a9c5ee15dcc1aba5c72b1075acd84e80 |
16:55.05 | Charles_Murray | What it looks like now |
16:55.36 | NeonPanda_ | oh god dagganoths |
16:56.13 | NeonPanda_ | where were those things? it was a dungeon wasn't it |
16:56.45 | Charles_Bot | No idea |
16:57.51 | NeonPanda_ | I do remember that one barbarian cave full of things to murder to make those unique armours, god that place was annoying |
16:58.08 | NeonPanda_ | giant enemy crabs minus flipping to hit weak spot for maximum damage |
16:58.46 | Charles_Bot | Where was that? |
16:59.19 | NeonPanda_ | way up in the member zone, that big barbarian village that had the house portal |
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17:10.16 | DrodoEmpire | test |
17:12.33 | dino82_ | test |
17:15.09 | Charles_Bot | test |
17:16.00 | NeonPanda_ | you all pass |
17:21.53 | NeonPanda_ | and now I am watching starcrafts because it is early in the morning and I have nothing to do |
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17:31.10 | Quark8 | Hi Imperios. |
17:38.57 | dino82_ | hi! |
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17:48.11 | Wormy_ | hi |
17:49.04 | Quark8 | Hello Wormy_. |
17:50.27 | Wormy_ | hi |
18:14.35 | dino82_ | hi wormy |
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18:32.31 | Wormy_ | hi again |
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19:15.48 | Quark8 | Hello Monet. |
19:15.52 | Monet | Hello |
19:16.10 | DrodoEmpire | Hey Monet |
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19:26.26 | DrodoEmpire | https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/euiv-rights-of-man-content-pack-renders.972158/ - These are all fantastic |
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19:46.35 | Monet | I use AMD so can't give any advice. |
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19:48.31 | Wormy_ | Yeah, AMD usaer as well. But I got a really annoting update once that recorded by gameplay |
19:48.37 | Wormy_ | And it get popping up useless tools |
19:48.41 | Wormy_ | *kept |
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19:50.02 | Monet | Hi |
19:57.24 | Charles_Murray | test |
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20:13.19 | Groxkiller98 | Heya. |
20:13.28 | Quark8 | Hello. |
20:14.14 | Groxkiller98 | I think I wanna try find someone to make art for my fiction. Spore isn't all that good for imagery. |
20:16.49 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
20:16.56 | DrodoEmpire | There're a few people who may be willing |
20:17.02 | Groxkiller98 | On the wiki? |
20:17.04 | DrodoEmpire | I won't speak for them, though |
20:17.05 | DrodoEmpire | Yes |
20:17.10 | Groxkiller98 | Any of them here? |
20:17.22 | DrodoEmpire | A few |
20:17.31 | DrodoEmpire | Dunno if they're *here* here |
20:17.37 | DrodoEmpire | But they're on the channel |
20:17.50 | Groxkiller98 | Well... Would anybody mind doing some pics for my stuff? XD |
20:18.07 | DrodoEmpire | Well |
20:18.15 | DrodoEmpire | What were you thinking, exactly? |
20:18.31 | DrodoEmpire | Paintings/drawings? |
20:18.39 | Groxkiller98 | Yup. |
20:18.42 | DrodoEmpire | Right. |
20:19.39 | DrodoEmpire | Well I'll say this upfront- if you're gonna request something, you need to find someone who's willing, communicate often, and pay them, and pay them fairly at that |
20:20.01 | DrodoEmpire | I know Monet does drawings but I won't speak for him in terms of taking requests |
20:20.14 | Monet | Artist is a notoriously volatile profession. |
20:20.20 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
20:20.27 | Groxkiller98 | Yeah... Problem is, I'm broke. XD I might have to try make them myself, and scan the images at college. |
20:20.34 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
20:20.42 | DrodoEmpire | If you're broke that might be the good thing to do |
20:20.48 | Groxkiller98 | I'm not even employed. |
20:20.59 | DrodoEmpire | If you're good at drawing especially |
20:21.21 | Groxkiller98 | I'd not say I'm good. Half-decent, maybe. |
20:28.05 | Charles_Murray | Currently doing research for a paper on arms control, and I come across this article |
20:28.09 | Charles_Murray | Written by |
20:28.21 | Charles_Murray | "Henry A. Kissinger, George P. Shultz, James A. Baker III, Lawrence S. Eagleburger and Colin L. Powell" |
20:28.41 | Charles_Murray | Me - Holy shit that's a lot of very important names shoved together in a very small space |
20:28.56 | Charles_Murray | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/01/AR2010120104598.html |
20:29.10 | NeonPanda_ | I'll take your word for it |
20:30.11 | Hachiman | MAN DO I HATE BLACKS |
20:30.19 | Charles_Murray | Basically the secretaries of state for the last five republican presidents |
20:30.29 | Monet | I know of Kissinger, Schultz and Powell. |
20:30.32 | Charles_Murray | Well that's totally not racist |
20:30.55 | Hachiman | I'm back btw |
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20:31.55 | NeonPanda_ | that would be why none of those names meant anything to me |
20:32.56 | NeonPanda_ | somewhat related, a friend and I were talking about foreign governments, and we realised with a start that basically any time you ask an Australian about controversial politics elsewhere in the world, |
20:33.06 | NeonPanda_ | chances are we'd just say "stop being stupid" and leave it at that |
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20:41.09 | DrodoEmpire | Honestly I think whoever's doing that clown shit is dumb |
20:41.10 | Monet | At the same time, a lot of comedy stems from suffering. |
20:41.10 | DrodoEmpire | Especially when thye begin chasing people |
20:41.17 | DrodoEmpire | I like pranks but at least some of these clowns are actually attacking and killing people |
20:41.24 | Imperios | Hachiman: >MAN DO I HATE BLACKS |
20:41.31 | Imperios | Once a king, always a king |
20:41.33 | DrodoEmpire | So i don't blame anyone who fights back |
20:41.35 | DrodoEmpire | *I |
20:41.50 | DrodoEmpire | Or anyone who gets angry or tense with a clown |
20:41.50 | Hachiman | Oh wow hur |
20:43.05 | Monet | Best way to cure one's fear of clowns is to batter one to near-death. |
20:43.16 | DrodoEmpire | Indeed <.< |
20:43.29 | NeonPanda_ | I'll just be glad when the clown shit stops because I used to enjoy the hour of walking at night ot get to games night |
20:43.34 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
20:43.57 | DrodoEmpire | And if a clown *does* get beat to near-death, chances are they deserve it seeing as they wave kitchen knives around threateningly or chase people with them |
20:44.42 | NeonPanda_ | ^ yeah the guys with cricket bats were retaliating against someone approaching them with a machete, so I (and the police) don't blame them at all |
20:44.52 | DrodoEmpire | Right, right |
20:45.33 | Monet | I partially wonder how effective/widespread the trend is in Britain. We take knife crime *extremely* seriously. |
20:45.52 | DrodoEmpire | I can't see it catching on if knife crime's so seriously-taken there |
20:46.09 | DrodoEmpire | Its everywhere in the US and its catching on in Canada so far |
20:46.31 | DrodoEmpire | Talk of my town, anyhow |
20:46.33 | Monet | The police really do not fuck around with knife crime. |
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20:47.27 | NeonPanda_ | what concerns me is that personal defence weapons are extremely uncommon in Australia, so people who intend to cause harm have more opportunity to do so |
20:47.42 | NeonPanda_ | though we are also just willing to pick up something big and heavy and beat the crap out of people with it if necessary |
20:47.45 | Monet | That and while our police look friendly and mostly--harmlous, when things get serious they're like bloody commandoes. |
20:47.46 | Tek0516 | My IRCCloud is being all glitchy again. >.< |
20:48.10 | Imperios | So... clown shit? |
20:48.13 | Imperios | What is going on? |
20:48.44 | NeonPanda_ | ours are Australian, that's about all I need to say about it really- brave as hell which is intimidating in its own right |
20:49.25 | NeonPanda_ | skills wise they're a little embarrassing but they're very good at defusing situations and even better at taking people down if needed |
20:49.36 | NeonPanda_ | they're also mostly rugby players so that counts for something :P |
20:49.51 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: Dipshits dressing up in clown costumes and stalking around park trails and roads at night brandishing knives or pitchforks |
20:50.02 | DrodoEmpire | Often they then chase people who come near, waving these things |
20:50.09 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Throw the fucks into jail |
20:50.12 | Imperios | That is criminal behaviour |
20:50.18 | Tek0516 | Oh my |
20:52.55 | Monet | Maybe its the contrast. This is your average bobby https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/London_-_Columbia_Market_-_2237.jpg these are your average bobbies when crime gets serious http://i3.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/article33424.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/40014162-F96C-2F7A-C3CFE1211DF0026E.jpg |
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22:11.53 | Monet | IRC's unstable today |
22:30.43 | Technobliterator | It's Freenode |
22:33.19 | Tek0516 | 2:44 PM <kloeri> [Global Notice] Hi all. We're continuing the server maintenance and over the next several hours we'll be rebooting the larger servers. It'll be a bit noisy but shouldn't be too disruptive. Thank you for using freenode. |
22:36.25 | Charles_Bot | ^ |
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23:29.03 | Wormy_ | IRC went out for ages |
23:30.21 | OluapPlayer | They were doing server maintenance |
23:35.42 | Technobliterator | needs Xho for BoreWar |
23:37.29 | OluapPlayer | Xho's in bed atm |
23:38.48 | Technobliterator | oh |
23:38.57 | Technobliterator | we might have to do it tomorrow |
23:39.02 | Technobliterator | does it involve all three of us? |
23:43.17 | OluapPlayer | The bits involving Xho are just you and him |
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23:52.23 | Wormy_ | Hi |