| 00:00.45 | TetrisD | and did i really spell physics in such a horrible typo that it looks like i said "oyster"? |
| 00:01.44 | TetrisD | good job, me |
| 00:07.04 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.21 | TetrisD | id be lying if i said i didnt also do that |
| 00:09.51 | Monet | remember the key to a good story is the suspension of disbelief. |
| 00:10.29 | Monet | The power to subconsciously overlook details based by how engaging they sound or look. |
| 00:11.33 | TetrisD | well then, that means i am a HORRIBLE storyteller |
| 00:11.34 | TetrisD | lol |
| 00:11.38 | TetrisD | mabey not |
| 00:12.09 | Monet | It is a skill that can be honed like any other. |
| 00:12.14 | TetrisD | but i tend to get bothered when i cant explain why something is the way it is |
| 00:14.14 | TetrisD | what would you say is the chance that a spacefaring empire will have no religion? |
| 00:14.30 | Monet | Depends |
| 00:14.53 | Monet | Did they become irreligious or was the culture and its predecessors always irreligious? |
| 00:16.08 | Monet | A lot of science fiction writers who favour atheistic futures tend to miss that religion is often a product of creativity. |
| 00:17.20 | Monet | So all these alien empires that find God illogical probably have a shit taste in art and film. |
| 00:18.02 | TetrisD | well, i want my creatures to be creative people, but they absolutely refuse to follow any religion because it is highly unlikely to ever be true (a by-product of the strategic part of their brains, they can calculate the probability of a certain event happening) |
| 00:18.39 | The_Randomness | oh dear |
| 00:18.49 | TetrisD | lol |
| 00:19.35 | TetrisD | they believe the probability of there ever being ANY religion in the Gigaquadrant that is true is less than 3% |
| 00:19.40 | Monet | Not all religions tell people to worship an all-powerful alien living in the sky. |
| 00:21.54 | Monet | Although what would they say about the probability of the cult of the Kardashians being true? |
| 00:22.19 | Wormy_ | Well, this looks intriguing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osiris:_New_Dawn |
| 00:22.31 | TetrisD | the other reason they refuse to follow any religion is because of their bad luck, they think that had there actually been a god that "loved" all life in the universe, they wouldn't have been attacked by the megajaw, invaded by the grox, lost half of its colonies to the War of Ages, been attacked by a chaos monster, and become the victim of classified information thefts and terrorism in the hands of another empire that now has all |
| 00:24.21 | TetrisD | and, of course, lost a nuclear war with the megajaw 25000 years ago and been forced to spend more than 14000 years searching for a habitable planet |
| 00:24.35 | TetrisD | they were frozen during the trip |
| 00:24.47 | Monet | "if there is a god out there, he's an appalling dad" |
| 00:25.08 | TetrisD | yep, thats pretty much their view on religion |
| 00:25.53 | TetrisD | they think that if there is a god out there, he isn't worthy of worship (but he WOULD be worthy of controversal prototype weapons tests) |
| 00:26.11 | Monet | Personally I'd be critical of a god that does nothing but shower their chosen in good things but to each his own. |
| 00:26.20 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 00:26.25 | DrodoEmpire | kk back |
| 00:27.08 | TetrisD | wb |
| 00:27.24 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 00:27.29 | DrodoEmpire | This debate is one I love |
| 00:27.40 | DrodoEmpire | The whole idea that a spacefaring nation will be irreligious |
| 00:28.03 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah that answer is rooted in the reasons as to why people become more or less religious in the first place |
| 00:28.19 | Monet | "If God is real why does he let evil happen" "because no successful person went though life without a single grain of hardship or struggle" |
| 00:28.41 | TetrisD | not just any spacefaring nation though, mine had such terrible luck, that they think that even IF there is a god out there, he is not worthy of worship |
| 00:28.53 | DrodoEmpire | Not really how things go though |
| 00:28.58 | DrodoEmpire | As a very general trend, people naturally become more religious when in hard times\ |
| 00:29.17 | DrodoEmpire | And when quality of life- and especially literacy/education remains low |
| 00:29.22 | DrodoEmpire | *education- |
| 00:30.01 | DrodoEmpire | Religion may also be imposed on the populace by the government overtly, as with many middle-eastern or majority-Muslim countries today, but results can sometimes be mixed there |
| 00:30.01 | TetrisD | actually, all my wars RAISED literacy rates because all the guys who couldnt read didnt know how to defenc themselves from the enemy and died |
| 00:30.13 | DrodoEmpire | That's... Not ever how things work |
| 00:30.20 | DrodoEmpire | Ever |
| 00:30.51 | TetrisD | also, they were in the outer colonies, which not attacked first |
| 00:30.56 | TetrisD | got* |
| 00:31.18 | Monet | That's going by the fallacy that book smarts are what makes you intelligent |
| 00:31.31 | DrodoEmpire | Well, err, no, that's not how things ever work |
| 00:31.58 | DrodoEmpire | Not enough people can be killed in anything short of a nuclear holocaust to effect literacy rates *that* significantly |
| 00:32.31 | TetrisD | that is true, knowledge doesn't make you intelligent, its how you USE your knowledge that does |
| 00:33.16 | TetrisD | also, im pretty sure the grox like to start alot of nuke holocausts in their wars |
| 00:33.38 | DrodoEmpire | Furthermore literacy rates would be reduced due to war thanks to destruction/deterioration of infrastructure and education otherwise being disrupted |
| 00:34.18 | TetrisD | but what about in a race that is biologically immortal, and thus has EXTREMELY low birth rates? |
| 00:34.41 | DrodoEmpire | Why would a biologically immortal race have extremely low birth rates? |
| 00:34.50 | Charles_Murray | For a second there I was really confused, I thought Drodo was arguing that religion leads to a deterioration of literacy |
| 00:34.54 | DrodoEmpire | No no |
| 00:35.01 | TetrisD | because they have to, or else nothing can support their population |
| 00:35.12 | Charles_Murray | I know, I was skimming and got it wrong. xD |
| 00:35.18 | DrodoEmpire | Just that religiosity increases in times of hardship, like when literacy and economic prosperity decrease |
| 00:35.20 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 00:35.45 | DrodoEmpire | If anything Christianity helped increase literacy early in Europe as people read translated bibles |
| 00:36.07 | DrodoEmpire | That were being mass-produced by printing presses |
| 00:36.16 | DrodoEmpire | By how much this helped I have no clue |
| 00:36.27 | Charles_Murray | Depends on the type of Christianity, but yeah |
| 00:36.31 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 00:36.44 | Charles_Murray | Lutherans, Puritans, Calvinists, definitely |
| 00:36.56 | DrodoEmpire | Catholics weren't gung-ho, to say the least |
| 00:36.57 | Charles_Murray | Anglicans? Ehhh |
| 00:37.05 | TetrisD | in my case, literacy rates were increased by my race's desparation to regain their formal technology after losing a nuclear war and being forces to find a new homeworld |
| 00:37.22 | DrodoEmpire | How would that increase literacy rates? |
| 00:37.38 | Charles_Murray | Yeah, that doesn't follow xD |
| 00:37.48 | DrodoEmpire | Literacy rates are increased by educating young people and having a large availability of books |
| 00:37.53 | TetrisD | because there desperate, there going to do everything in their power to MAKE SURE literacy rates are high |
| 00:38.07 | DrodoEmpire | ...Like building schools and public libraries, you mean? |
| 00:38.18 | DrodoEmpire | You can't learn to read by sheer force of will |
| 00:38.18 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 00:39.18 | TetrisD | well, they kinda lost the technology to do so, but literacy rates stayed the same because no one had offspring, and no one forgot how to read |
| 00:39.50 | Charles_Murray | Just out of curiosity, what's the source of your fixation on literacy rate? |
| 00:39.52 | DrodoEmpire | Lost the technology to mass-produce books and build schools? |
| 00:40.09 | DrodoEmpire | That would mean they would have to regress back to a medieval level of development |
| 00:40.43 | Charles_Murray | (>.<) |
| 00:41.00 | TetrisD | lost ALL of their technology, come on, guys! you cant just shove a couple factories, a dozen bulldozers, and a hundred laser drills in a colony ship! |
| 00:41.02 | Charles_Murray | (Development and 'technology' isn't linear, keep in mind) |
| 00:41.10 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 00:41.17 | DrodoEmpire | Naturally, but you understand |
| 00:41.32 | DrodoEmpire | Uhh, if its large enough, you absolutely could |
| 00:41.42 | Charles_Murray | I should probably also put development in quotation marks >.< |
| 00:42.33 | TetrisD | if its large enough, the daemonum would have died in the nuclear war before they had enough time to finish building it |
| 00:42.34 | DrodoEmpire | You could have enough resources to build a small prefabricated settlement, and keep a database full of practical information, and bring professionals and experts with you |
| 00:42.37 | DrodoEmpire | If you were smart |
| 00:42.39 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 00:43.12 | Charles_Murray | (1) They're on a colony ship, and (2) 'losing technology' might not be the right way to think about it. Losing the infrastructure to produce certain materials or produce certain outcomes, definitely |
| 00:43.19 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 00:43.33 | DrodoEmpire | They'd have to gear-down to probably an industrial or preindustrial state |
| 00:43.47 | DrodoEmpire | But they'd have the knowledge to still develop quickly from there |
| 00:44.01 | TetrisD | they were PLANNING on bringing construction tools, resources, and a database with them, but they ran out of time, the megajaw were going to nuke them RIGHT NOW, no ifs, ands, or buts |
| 00:44.04 | DrodoEmpire | And they'd still be able to produce books and build schools as they understand that |
| 00:44.05 | Monet | Yeah. losing the means t oproduce laser drills and bulldozers is very different from losing the knowledge of how to design working laser drills and bulldozers |
| 00:45.07 | TetrisD | their technological development was slow, however, because they forgot to bring miners with them |
| 00:45.50 | Monet | Sorry? |
| 00:46.01 | Monet | Miners or geologists? |
| 00:46.14 | TetrisD | they for to bring miners, so getting the resources to rebuild their tech was difficult |
| 00:46.24 | TetrisD | forgot to bring* |
| 00:47.04 | Monet | Miners tend to be unskilled labourers. |
| 00:48.12 | TetrisD | then geologists |
| 00:48.22 | DrodoEmpire | Bringing experts would obviously be important |
| 00:48.44 | Monet | Yeah, which is why I asked if he meant miners or geologists. |
| 00:49.22 | Monet | Miners, well, a strong body and a decent understanding of hard labour and a geologists can guide them |
| 00:49.35 | TetrisD | then again, they thought bringing geologists wouldnt be important, because, according to them, theres a difference between THIS planet and the NEXT planet |
| 00:50.28 | TetrisD | the fact that all their planets in the solar system are very different from eachother didnt help |
| 00:54.01 | Monet | As gripping as this conversation is, I need sleep |
| 00:54.31 | TetrisD | and i need to actually start writing my fiction |
| 00:54.44 | DrodoEmpire | Alright/ |
| 00:56.07 | Xho | this conversation is still going on |
| 00:56.27 | TetrisD | Yes it is |
| 00:56.32 | TetrisD | dammit |
| 00:56.34 | DrodoEmpire | Yep |
| 00:56.40 | TetrisD | the yes was supposed to be all caps |
| 01:02.44 | Monet | Xho: I think it's over now |
| 01:02.52 | Monet | Just missed him |
| 01:18.24 | The_Randomness | well |
| 02:18.38 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 02:29.22 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 02:33.49 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 02:45.15 | Tek0516 | "Washington D.C." > *Shows scene featuring Toronto City Hall and set in its adjacent plaza* |
| 02:47.23 | Tek0516 | ...it shows entire sweeping shots of the area, just with people holding American flags. >.> |
| 02:49.47 | DrodoEmpire | olololol |
| 02:51.16 | DrodoEmpire | Plot twist: Toronto has been annexed by the United States, the downtrodden Torontonians are forced to attend a "patriotic" rally to prove their loyalty |
| 02:52.52 | Tek0516 | Actually the scene was a rally for a DC mayor candidate. :P |
| 02:53.29 | Tek0516 | The scene was supposed to be in the 2060s, so maybe the area is just low-budget futuristic. :P |
| 02:54.26 | Tek0516 | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Toronto_-_ON_-_Rathaus_und_Nathan_Phillips_Square.jpg |
| 02:54.28 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... |
| 02:56.44 | Tek0516 | It's was so unsubtly shown it was rather hilarious. Sweeping shots of the scene and everything |
| 02:56.53 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
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| 05:00.20 | TetrisD | Anyone here? Or am I lonely? |
| 05:02.14 | TetrisD | Not surprised nobody is here, it's midnight. |
| 05:02.21 | Tek0516 | 1am here. :P |
| 05:02.30 | TetrisD | Oh |
| 05:02.44 | TetrisD | Hi |
| 05:02.45 | Tek0516 | I'm just up way too late finishing a war in Europa Universalis 4. :P |
| 05:03.40 | TetrisD | I'm up way too late trying to write my fiction. |
| 05:03.52 | TetrisD | On an iPad. |
| 05:04.19 | TetrisD | Good idea, right? |
| 05:05.20 | DrodoEmpire | Nah >.< |
| 05:06.10 | TetrisD | And, of course, you can't save a page you don't publish :P |
| 05:06.11 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: After decades of service my brave general died a mere two weeks after a war. :P |
| 05:06.56 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 05:07.21 | Tek0516 | My Luxembourg is also rapidly growing into Belgium even if I don't try. :P |
| 05:07.23 | TetrisD | ? |
| 05:08.44 | Tek0516 | My current game after the integration of Liege and conquest of Gand. :P https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/wIxNDMYS/20161002010749_1.jpg |
| 05:09.59 | TetrisD | What is that game? |
| 05:10.39 | Tek0516 | Europa Universalis 4. |
| 05:11.51 | TetrisD | Oh, that's what you meant by "war", I thought you were talking about a sporewiki war. |
| 05:12.26 | TetrisD | :P |
| 05:13.03 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: The fun part about doing all of this as Wallonian is that almost everything I conquer gets dynamically renamed. XD |
| 05:13.27 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 05:13.32 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I like that feature |
| 05:14.31 | DrodoEmpire | I gotta restart, brbr |
| 05:14.34 | DrodoEmpire | *brb |
| 05:14.38 | TetrisD | A midevil strategy game, I may never understand you guys... |
| 05:15.14 | TetrisD | Then again, we just like two different types of games |
| 05:15.40 | Tek0516 | Not medieval. >.> That's a different Paradox game. :P |
| 05:15.54 | TetrisD | ? |
| 05:16.29 | Tek0516 | It's 1444-1821, it's Renaissance and Early Modern Era, not medieval. >.> |
| 05:17.01 | TetrisD | Close enough |
| 05:18.28 | Tek0516 | Eh, not really. Practically everything changed in that time period. >.> |
| 05:18.42 | TetrisD | Do you get to see Colombus sailing the ocean blue? |
| 05:18.57 | Tek0516 | You can, yes |
| 05:19.47 | TetrisD | If you look there right before he goes sailing, are there guys trying to stop him? |
| 05:22.52 | Tek0516 | People didn't actually think the world was flat, even the ancient greeks knew that. :P |
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| 05:23.24 | TetrisD | Way too many people think that statement is false |
| 05:23.30 | DrodoEmpire | Back |
| 05:23.33 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
| 05:23.36 | TetrisD | Hi |
| 05:24.49 | TetrisD | The real reason nobody wanted Colombus sailing was because they thought he was going to screw up and run out of supplies |
| 05:25.04 | Tek0516 | The main objection to his expedition if anything was that he severely underestimated the size of the globe. |
| 05:25.15 | DrodoEmpire | More or less yeah |
| 05:25.29 | DrodoEmpire | It was common knowledge by that point that the world was round |
| 05:25.48 | Tek0516 | The Portuguese found their own way to India around the same time just by going around Africa even. |
| 05:25.49 | TetrisD | Now it isn't |
| 05:26.00 | DrodoEmpire | It didn't take a voyage to figure that out- just a bit of maths |
| 05:26.08 | TetrisD | People think the world is flat |
| 05:26.13 | DrodoEmpire | ? |
| 05:26.25 | DrodoEmpire | There *is* a flat-earth club I do know that |
| 05:26.36 | DrodoEmpire | But most of those people are joking I'm quite sure |
| 05:26.44 | DrodoEmpire | Like pastafarianism |
| 05:28.17 | TetrisD | "Oh mah gud da erth totally haz ta ba flat, I men, cumon,evebodi knos gud mad de erth flat " |
| 05:28.44 | TetrisD | No, people out there really think the earth is flat |
| 05:29.39 | DrodoEmpire | I know some do |
| 05:29.59 | DrodoEmpire | But they're hardly a large portion of the population |
| 05:30.10 | TetrisD | In fact, there's countries there where it's mandatory to teach the kids that the earth is flat |
| 05:30.22 | DrodoEmpire | Bullshit. |
| 05:30.23 | DrodoEmpire | Name one. |
| 05:30.44 | DrodoEmpire | The thing is that with the advent of the internet everybody now has a platform, or an ability to self-publish so these people are more visible |
| 05:31.07 | TetrisD | There's even a few countries out there where all of YouTube is banned because of a few "earth is round" videos |
| 05:31.16 | DrodoEmpire | Again, bullshit, name one |
| 05:31.31 | DrodoEmpire | The only group of people I know who would be taken at all seriously when they claim the Earth is flat are some Islamic theologians |
| 05:31.34 | DrodoEmpire | That's it |
| 05:32.26 | TetrisD | Ok, ho yo YouTube, and search "10 countries where you can't watch this video" by alltime10s |
| 05:32.27 | DrodoEmpire | So between a handful of conspiracy theorists and a handful of fundimentalist preachers-- what country has been pressured in to mandating flat-earth theory as part of the curriculum? |
| 05:33.43 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh yes, a top ten channel |
| 05:33.44 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 05:34.08 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway, I checked the wikipedia page and it has no reference of any country mandating flat-earth theory in the modern day |
| 05:34.30 | TetrisD | That's because it's Wikipedia |
| 05:34.39 | DrodoEmpire | Wikipedia's actually quite reliable |
| 05:34.46 | TetrisD | Uh huh |
| 05:35.12 | DrodoEmpire | Yes, it is-- it lists sources and having worked with wikis for years know how efficiently things like bullshit are rooted out |
| 05:35.22 | DrodoEmpire | Don't blow me off, I know more than you here |
| 05:35.41 | TetrisD | It's about as reliable as a McDonald's commercial that claims its food is healthy |
| 05:35.50 | DrodoEmpire | Your evidence? |
| 05:36.02 | DrodoEmpire | Its as reliable as any paper encyclopedia, which aren't academic sources by the way |
| 05:36.14 | DrodoEmpire | But reliable enough for this work |
| 05:36.57 | DrodoEmpire | So tell me-- what is more reliable; an online encyclopedia which painstakingly cites sources, or a top-ten channel? |
| 05:36.58 | TetrisD | My evidence being a page in Wikipedia itself, called "what Wikipedia is not" |
| 05:37.33 | TetrisD | And yes, alltime10s does cite its sources |
| 05:38.12 | DrodoEmpire | All the |
| 05:38.19 | TetrisD | Lol |
| 05:39.01 | DrodoEmpire | "What wikipedia is not" page says that could even remotely support your statement is that it says its not a paper encyclopedia, which is fucking obvious |
| 05:39.41 | TetrisD | lemme check for myself |
| 05:40.05 | DrodoEmpire | Now I'm done with you redirecting the argument |
| 05:40.41 | DrodoEmpire | The only thing even remotely close to a modern nation supporting the flat earth theory was a single president of the Transvaal Republic saying he was on-board about a hundred years ago |
| 05:41.51 | DrodoEmpire | So can you rid yourself of that lame rumour that wikipedia is this rogue site spreading bullshit? :p |
| 05:42.28 | DrodoEmpire | Its not an academic source either, no encyclopedia really is, but its pretty accurate much of the time, and is useful in the academic sense for its list of citations |
| 05:42.51 | TetrisD | I've decided to stop arguing to prevent further hostility |
| 05:42.51 | Tek0516 | ...I searched that video and found lots of conspiracy theory and biblical videos. >.> |
| 05:43.04 | DrodoEmpire | So- and I'm going to ask again- name a *single* country |
| 05:43.11 | DrodoEmpire | No no, I |
| 05:43.17 | DrodoEmpire | *I'm not being hostile, not intentionally |
| 05:43.25 | DrodoEmpire | I'm frustrated at your avoidance of the question |
| 05:43.40 | DrodoEmpire | If you've watched the video, then i trust you to name a single country that does this |
| 05:43.40 | Tek0516 | Either way I can't find the video so I'd like to see this source too. >.> |
| 05:43.41 | DrodoEmpire | *I |
| 05:44.43 | TetrisD | I wasn't avoiding the question, I couldn't remember which country it was so I told you where I got it from |
| 05:45.05 | TetrisD | I'll watch the video again |
| 05:45.33 | DrodoEmpire | That'd be great-- and if you don't mind link it here too |
| 05:58.00 | TetrisD | First, I don't know how to link in IRC, second, I got the YouTube channel wrong, it's Top Lists, third, I must have either remembered wrong, because nothing on the list blocks YouTube specifically for saying the earth is round, HOWEVER, packistan DOES block YouTube until it can find a way to filter out "blasphemous " content |
| 06:01.20 | TetrisD | There were four countries (packistan included) that block YouTube because of a movie called "The Innocence of Muslims" |
| 06:02.48 | TetrisD | All the others block it because either classified information was released there, or they simply do not trust YouTube |
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| 11:31.35 | Monet | Hello |
| 11:32.27 | Wormy_ | I found a really high mountain in NMS shaped like a volcano http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198054095784/screenshots/ http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198054095784/screenshots/ http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198054095784/screenshots/ |
| 11:32.41 | Wormy_ | you can see the curvature of the planet at the summit |
| 11:33.14 | Wormy_ | And this made me think of the artist Chris Foss http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198054095784/screenshots/ |
| 11:33.28 | Wormy_ | Say what you will about the game but it is screenshot porn |
| 11:34.25 | Wormy_ | none of those links work: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=773392988 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=773393295 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=773393536 |
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| 11:52.20 | Wormy_ | Space art by Angus Mckie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sm7w7YxTL4 |
| 11:53.18 | Wormy_ | In some ways I think I like his more |
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| 12:08.11 | dino82_ | awesome art |
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| 12:19.48 | dino82_ | hi |
| 12:23.46 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 12:30.15 | dino82_ | @Crossing Lines: a hero returns to the Quadrants, Rambam is back :D though might be a bit differant than how know him: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tertius_Bellum/Crossing_Line |
| 12:52.01 | Monet | dino82_: Woah. |
| 12:54.29 | dino82_ | @Monet: :D |
| 12:55.48 | Monet | The gigaquadrant gets more expansive every day. |
| 12:57.48 | Monet | The Dominatus and the AGC/PAE expanded into different universes, and the Rambo are exploiting different itmelines. |
| 12:57.52 | Monet | timelines* |
| 12:58.20 | dino82_ | Yup :D |
| 12:58.45 | dino82_ | for as long ast their warp gate remains existing |
| 13:01.28 | Technobliterator | Hey guys! Anyone have fictions they'd want to feature today? |
| 13:01.36 | dino82_ | Rambert wants more forces and due to current situation of RAmbo Nation, they do not have the resources to do so, but other realities might have "D |
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| 13:04.00 | Wormy_ | I think any stories relating to the http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Quadrant_Galaxies/Gorge or Dawnstar is a candidate |
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| 13:04.01 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 13:04.19 | OluapPlayer | Genesis of Nightmare |
| 13:04.21 | OluapPlayer | s |
| 13:04.57 | Wormy_ | Or Da Reckoning |
| 13:07.39 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:09.05 | dino82_ | Rambam of the other reality: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Rambam/Alternate |
| 13:09.43 | Monet | Technobliterator: I put forward History Reawakens. |
| 13:10.06 | Technobliterator | All four of those could go |
| 13:10.15 | Technobliterator | I'll wait about 10 minutes before post |
| 13:11.56 | Wormy_ | OluapPlayer: http://imgur.com/gallery/dXhjM9W |
| 13:12.34 | dino82_ | ah sweet :d |
| 13:15.13 | OluapPlayer | Wormy_: Cute |
| 13:15.28 | Wormy_ | brb dog walk |
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| 13:37.52 | Technobliterator | alright, I can make the thread now |
| 13:56.46 | Quark8 | test |
| 14:04.38 | dino82_ | test recieved |
| 14:09.41 | Monet | brb |
| 14:11.52 | *** topic/#sporewiki by Technobliterator -> SporeWiki! http://spore.wikia.com || Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23sporewiki/ || Collaborative Universes: Sci-Fi http://tinyurl.com/3ddvp7q Fantasy http://tinyurl.com/p9qau7l || Titanpad: https://titanpad.com/ || Offtopic chat: #sporewiki-offtopic || Fiction reading day! http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:216729 |
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| 14:15.54 | NeonPanda | so I had a fiction idea I'd like to put forward: a military campaign where the aggressor's major actions are influenced by community opinion |
| 14:18.56 | Wormy_away | http://imgur.com/gallery/He1ve |
| 14:19.11 | Wormy_away | Hm, interesting |
| 14:19.19 | NeonPanda | in essence, after each stage of the campaign I would get a feel for how the community is feeling about the progress of the campaign, and possibly change how the attackers go about said campaign accordingly |
| 14:19.27 | NeonPanda | the endpoint would still be the same, just the manner in which they go about it |
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| 14:29.01 | NeonPanda | Monet: [00:15] <NeonPanda> so I had a fiction idea I'd like to put forward: a military campaign where the aggressor's major actions are influenced by community opinion |
| 14:29.06 | NeonPanda | [00:19] <NeonPanda> in essence, after each stage of the campaign I would get a feel for how the community is feeling about the progress of the campaign, and possibly change how the attackers go about said campaign accordingly [00:19] <NeonPanda> the endpoint would still be the same, just the manner in which they go about it |
| 14:30.10 | Monet | Could be an interesting experiment. |
| 14:30.25 | dino82_ | idd |
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| 14:31.32 | Monet | An interesting experiment, with its own risks ofc. |
| 14:33.43 | NeonPanda | the Boaty McBoatface scenario of course being avoided by the fact that I'm not under any obligation to do anything |
| 14:34.29 | Wormy_away | So I'm eating these "Yoshoi Snapea rice sticks" which are like crisps but made from peas and rice. They have the flavour of chip shop mushy peas. An example of the East and West having sometimes similar tastes? If Japanese like this snack they would like mushy peas. |
| 14:41.47 | Monet | NeonPanda: A wise. |
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| 14:43.12 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 14:43.41 | Monet | Hi |
| 14:43.55 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 14:43.57 | Monet | SO I decided for research purposes to watch Dune. |
| 14:44.46 | DrodoAway | test |
| 14:45.42 | DrodoEmpire | How're you liking it so far Monet? |
| 14:45.50 | Monet | I find it hilarious that Patrick Steward is in it a) three eyars before he did TNG and b) his character is described as a talented minstrel. |
| 14:45.58 | Monet | Stewart* |
| 14:46.17 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 14:46.40 | DrodoEmpire | Technobliterator: August 2016? <.< |
| 14:46.50 | Technobliterator | urm |
| 14:46.50 | NeonPanda | I'm still amazed that Stewart didn't unpack his bags for the first six weeks of filming for TNG, he was that sure he'd be kicked off |
| 14:46.53 | Technobliterator | whoops |
| 14:48.05 | Monet | NeonPanda: I thought it was that he was sure TNG would flop. |
| 14:48.21 | NeonPanda | nah, he was sure he'd get fired |
| 14:50.27 | Monet | Could be both. |
| 14:50.40 | Monet | The LA times reported him as "an unknown Shakespearian Actor" |
| 14:51.11 | NeonPanda | well the getting fired part is the one he himself said in an interview so *shrugs* |
| 14:51.33 | Monet | Could be he felt certain TNG would pan and Paramount would give it the axe and him the boot. |
| 14:52.06 | NeonPanda | one thing I will say for certain is if we're ever in the same room for some reason I'm going to address him as Uriel Septim III just to see how he responds |
| 14:53.12 | Monet | Could be interesting |
| 14:53.30 | Monet | I hear he's a bit bored talking about Star Trek outside of the 'cons. |
| 14:53.59 | dino82_ | yeah, he is xavies too though |
| 14:54.16 | Hachiman | Ooh, Reawakens is in Fiction Reading Day |
| 14:54.46 | NeonPanda | not expecting a Pattinson/Diggory response, but would be interesting |
| 14:55.02 | Monet | DrodoEMpire: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/AGqdE1NdMTg/maxresdefault.jpg dear [diety] is this thing fugly. I love it! |
| 14:55.18 | dino82_ | yeah nice story! |
| 14:55.27 | Hachiman | I have honestly mixed opinions on Dune |
| 14:55.38 | OluapPlayer | I still love my avatar |
| 14:55.38 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 14:55.42 | OluapPlayer | I don't think I'll ever change it |
| 14:55.47 | Hachiman | hur |
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| 14:55.53 | NeonPanda | "Now, I'm not going to say he's a part of the great Skeleton Conspiracy, but he does in fact have a skeleton inside of him right now." - logic right there |
| 14:55.57 | Hachiman | It could have been so much better if Jodorowsky had remained as director |
| 14:56.38 | OluapPlayer | Drafting time for the skeleton war has begun |
| 14:56.55 | OluapPlayer | Gotta get ready to spook all the fuckboys at the end of the month |
| 14:57.04 | Hachiman | kek |
| 14:57.10 | Monet | Hachiman: Yeah I'm at the scene where Gurney and Leo 9is it?) fight with those strange shields |
| 14:57.13 | NeonPanda | employ maximum frighten |
| 14:57.36 | NeonPanda | on that note, I do appreciate Dune for being one of those settings that actually makes space age melee combat make sense |
| 14:57.40 | Monet | That scene where you have two blocky bodies fighting did not come out well.. |
| 14:57.54 | Hachiman | The CGI in Dune in general is quite goofy |
| 14:58.04 | Hachiman | The practical effects are absolutely superb though |
| 14:58.11 | NeonPanda | like, have there be an in-universe reason for why it's there beyond "giant fucking chainsaw swords are fucking awesome!" - which is perfectly reasonable logic :P |
| 14:59.39 | Monet | Hachiman: CGI was still in its infancy back then so there's some sense. |
| 14:59.54 | Hachiman | I meant, goofy even by the standards of the day |
| 15:01.30 | Monet | Yeah I get you. It's nothing compared to the Alien in The Abyss |
| 15:01.40 | Hachiman | I like both Lynch and Jodorowsky but I feel the latter would have handled it so much better if he remained in production |
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| 15:15.14 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 15:15.23 | Hellrock | Hello. |
| 15:15.37 | Hellrock | Is it me, or is the font above the chat much bigger compared to last time I came? |
| 15:16.11 | Ghelae | I think I remember it suddenly increasing once, but that was many months ago. |
| 15:16.20 | Ghelae | It's been quite large ever since. |
| 15:19.34 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
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| 15:20.17 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
| 15:20.25 | Hellrock | Welcome |
| 15:20.31 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 15:20.52 | OluapPlayer | hi |
| 15:20.54 | Monet | Hello |
| 15:20.56 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
| 15:21.09 | Monet | Hachiman: Passed the Harkonnen introduction. |
| 15:21.27 | Hachiman | Yeah... Harkonnen's a thing |
| 15:21.54 | Monet | I'm getting a vibe of "the dignified and noble Atrides, and the depraved and vile Harkonnen" |
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| 15:41.13 | dino82_ | the hutter god and secret ruler: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:VenociosV2Large.png |
| 15:41.59 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 15:42.11 | Hachiman | It's a tree |
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| 15:49.36 | dino82_ | :d |
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| 15:59.52 | NeonPanda | I had to stop for a moment and realise that's really, really artfully applied insect parts coloured to look like wood |
| 15:59.58 | NeonPanda | +1 to holy shit |
| 16:00.36 | Monet | I second that +1 |
| 16:00.58 | Monet | Masterfully done |
| 16:04.27 | dino82_ | Thanks :D |
| 16:04.43 | dino82_ | I currently wo rk on his page, he hopefully makes a later appearance as the nuew nemises of the Quadrants now that Morgandaur is gone |
| 16:10.01 | dino82_ | Rambert offers his exprress for the Draconid: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board |
| 16:12.37 | Imperios | Hi |
| 16:12.52 | Imperios | dino82_: I just had a thought |
| 16:13.00 | dino82_ | yeah? |
| 16:13.11 | Imperios | Would you mind if I made my own version of the http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/b1/RamboflagII.png/revision/latest?cb=20140720103759 Rambo emblem? |
| 16:13.21 | Imperios | You can then use it if you like it |
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| 16:13.58 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 16:15.10 | dino82_ | Euh sure you can!!!! Looking forward to what you are going to make :d |
| 16:15.22 | dino82_ | hi quark |
| 16:17.35 | Imperios | dino82_: I'll keep the design, I'll just try to make it look more... artsy |
| 16:18.20 | dino82_ | Sure! Looking forward :D |
| 16:18.38 | dino82_ | you want to redesign that one or the one with the dark backround? |
| 16:24.22 | Imperios | That one |
| 16:24.38 | Imperios | You can put it on a background later on |
| 16:24.45 | dino82_ | ok! |
| 16:25.09 | Imperios | dino82_: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/c0/Rambo_Emblem_2.png/revision/latest?cb=20161002162444 Motherfucking Farahvar |
| 16:25.24 | dino82_ | oh wow that looks stunning! |
| 16:25.25 | dino82_ | Amazing! |
| 16:26.59 | dino82_ | @Imperios: Added to the RN page :D |
| 16:27.37 | Monet | Agreed that emblam looks phenomenal! |
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| 16:34.32 | Quark8 | Hi. |
| 16:34.49 | Cyrannian | Hello everyone |
| 16:38.07 | dino82_ | Hi! |
| 16:38.08 | dino82_ | Cyrannian! |
| 16:40.29 | Cyrannian | hai |
| 16:42.47 | Quark8 | How've you been? |
| 16:46.37 | Imperios | dino82_: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Rambo_Emblem_2.png Actually, I realised I could add one more thing to this |
| 16:47.27 | dino82_ | Oh neat! Rambert insigna :D |
| 16:48.00 | dino82_ | Such an insigna I will probably never be able to recreate in game :P Awesome work Imperios! |
| 16:48.04 | dino82_ | And thank you very much :D |
| 16:49.00 | Imperios | Thanks ^^ |
| 16:49.10 | Imperios | And you're welcome |
| 16:50.27 | Imperios | Cyrannian: You may take a look as well |
| 16:54.20 | Imperios | dino82_: Gotta say, I *really* love your Spore heraldry |
| 16:56.38 | dino82_ | @Cyrannian has diner |
| 16:56.59 | dino82_ | @Imperios: Thanks, I love creating those things, with the new CamBen I can implemend it on armor and well |
| 16:57.05 | dino82_ | though sometimes makes things difficult as well haha |
| 17:06.06 | Cyrannian | Imperios: Very impressive work as always! |
| 17:09.04 | Imperios | Thanks |
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| 17:17.21 | Quark8 | Hey Charles. |
| 17:17.42 | dino82_ | The Atlantica of nature has hiw own page now: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Venocios |
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| 17:22.44 | Imperios | dino82_: I am Groot |
| 17:22.54 | dino82_ | Lol :D |
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| 17:26.00 | Quark8 | Hello Xho. |
| 17:26.07 | Xho | Hi |
| 17:28.46 | dino82_ | hi xho |
| 17:29.37 | Monet | hi |
| 17:33.33 | Cyrannian | Hai |
| 17:37.26 | dino82_ | the disastrous meeting between France and the Rambo: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Franco-Rambo_Summit |
| 17:37.41 | Imperios | dino82_: *snootiness intensifies* |
| 17:38.43 | dino82_ | @imperios: lol :d |
| 17:38.51 | Imperios | So what is achieved at the end? |
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| 17:39.25 | Hachiman | Fucking IRC / Titanpad |
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| 17:41.38 | TetrisD | Hello, everyone! Or no one... Apparently, iPads don't show who's on IRC |
| 17:41.45 | dino82_ | Hi Tetris |
| 17:41.51 | dino82_ | @Hacji: Ow problems with irc? |
| 17:48.37 | DrodoEmpire | Back\ |
| 17:48.51 | dino82_ | hi Drodo |
| 17:54.07 | Imperios | Monet Hachiman Xho: https://2ch.hk/po/src/18589170/14754306158600.jpg Behold, Russian architecture |
| 17:56.01 | Xho | #thanksjesus |
| 17:57.36 | Tek0516 | After over a year I finally found out what was triggering an annoying thing on my phone. There's a microphone around the headphone jack, and if I tap the area right it triggers voice search. And since I didn't know it happened a lot. >.> |
| 17:58.16 | DrodoEmpire | Oh wow lol |
| 18:00.32 | Tek0516 | It probably explains why that thing only happened when I had headphones in (but I think no audio playing as well), and especially when adjusting my headphones. :P |
| 18:00.37 | DrodoETW | Ah |
| 18:00.43 | DrodoETW | Gonna play some Darthmod Empire |
| 18:02.01 | DrodoETW | Oh shite |
| 18:02.04 | DrodoETW | Crashed on startup |
| 18:10.51 | Tek0516 | RIP Drodi |
| 18:10.55 | Tek0516 | *Drodo |
| 18:11.03 | Imperios | Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O96Jure38bA Dealing with Santorakh be like |
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| 18:11.55 | DrodoEmpire | Back, computer crashed >.< |
| 18:17.38 | Tek0516 | RIP DrodoEmpire |
| 18:17.44 | DrodoEmpire | >: |
| 18:38.42 | Xho | Imperios: kek |
| 18:38.53 | Xho | Jesus it's only 19:38 |
| 18:39.01 | Xho | 19:39 even |
| 18:39.28 | Xho | So contrary to yesterday with my download speed |
| 18:39.38 | Xho | Tonight's download speed is 4.2 Mb/sec |
| 18:42.34 | Xho | Hachiman: NEW MESHUGGAH IN 5 DAYS GET HYPE |
| 18:42.44 | Hachiman | Oh shit |
| 18:43.17 | Xho | New Animals As Leaders album coming out as well |
| 18:44.18 | Cyrannian | bah, mine is down to 577 kbs for some reason |
| 18:44.42 | Xho | get rekt |
| 18:44.58 | Xho | Karma dictates I'll probably lose my internet speed in a few seconds |
| 18:45.04 | Cyrannian | hue |
| 18:45.48 | Xho | It's actually Sims 3 I'm downloading because I feel like playing Sims |
| 18:47.02 | Cyrannian | Yeah, I've been playing a lot of Sims 3 recently. I also got the Sims 4 on Friday, though playing it just makes me want to go back to 3 |
| 18:47.19 | Xho | hoh |
| 18:47.21 | Xho | not a good sign |
| 18:48.14 | Cyrannian | It's not bad though, it's just more like a sequel to the Sims 2, ignoring most of the big additions of the Sims 3 |
| 18:48.29 | Xho | Yeah it felt more like Sims 2 than Sims 3 |
| 18:48.37 | Xho | Although it felt emptier than both |
| 18:48.46 | Xho | Sims 1 is still the best |
| 18:49.15 | Cyrannian | aye |
| 18:49.19 | Cyrannian | I'll bbl |
| 19:02.37 | Tek0516 | A lot of games like that seem to follow the same pattern; releasing a comparatively minimal base game, developing the game a lot through expansions, then the sequel ends up just being an improvement to the base game without any expansions |
| 19:03.23 | Xho | Well as far as I can tell that's mainly EA's business plan |
| 19:03.25 | Tek0516 | ...ffs. I was standing there pressing the open door button and still missed the train. >.> |
| 19:05.04 | Monet | EA is pretty guilty of that model. |
| 19:05.09 | Monet | But it works |
| 19:06.30 | Monet | The hype machine has become a very critical part of selling a game |
| 19:11.22 | Tek0516 | Don't forget companies like EA have made an entire industry out of selling the same game with a reskinned team roster every year. :P |
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| 19:16.03 | OluapPlayer | Imperios Monet: Well I've reached the level cap already |
| 19:16.10 | Imperios | Congrats |
| 19:16.12 | Xho | ups |
| 19:16.20 | OluapPlayer | So I can't play anymore |
| 19:16.22 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Now, pick a realm called Moonguard and try a human |
| 19:16.29 | Imperios | Their storyline will be cool |
| 19:17.01 | OluapPlayer | I don't plan to start a new character, at least not now |
| 19:18.25 | Xho | com bak to wiki pls |
| 19:18.33 | OluapPlayer | I never left |
| 19:18.44 | Charles_Bot | You've reached level 20? |
| 19:18.52 | Charles_Bot | Or 100 and something? |
| 19:18.54 | OluapPlayer | 20 |
| 19:19.00 | Charles_Bot | Got it |
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| 19:23.07 | TetrisD | hi |
| 19:23.19 | TetrisD | sry about the AFK earlier |
| 19:27.44 | TetrisD | oh, mabey not, everyone else seems AFK, too |
| 19:29.03 | Xho | More or less |
| 19:34.53 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: I take an "Elite" signifies it's a boss |
| 19:35.02 | Imperios | Well not exactly |
| 19:35.19 | Imperios | It just means an enemy that should be killed as a group |
| 19:35.24 | OluapPlayer | Ah |
| 19:35.29 | Imperios | Bosses are all elite but not all elites are bosses |
| 19:35.36 | Imperios | Dungeon enemies are almost all elite for example |
| 19:36.02 | OluapPlayer | In the area I was in there was a loch inhabited by murlocs, and there was a large blue monster swimming about who was a level 15 Elite |
| 19:36.20 | Technobliterator | whistles and points to the fiction reading day thread |
| 19:36.33 | OluapPlayer | has nothing to say about it |
| 19:37.38 | OluapPlayer | Speaking of murlocs, I felt some joy hearing their little angry cry in-game |
| 19:37.46 | OluapPlayer | It's been ages since I heard that noise |
| 19:38.29 | Monet | Elites can be soloed I think after about 10 levels. |
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| 19:39.13 | OluapPlayer | ~dropkick Cyrannian |
| 19:39.13 | infobot | ACTION sends Cyrannian flying like a yipping chihuahua |
| 19:39.13 | Monet | I think I was in my lvl 20s when I soloed Hogger. |
| 19:39.19 | Cyrannian | ~tickle OluapPlayer |
| 19:39.20 | infobot | ACTION jumps on OluapPlayer, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
| 19:39.46 | OluapPlayer | waptor is alive again, cloned from amber and frog DNA |
| 19:42.00 | Cyrannian | yus tis true |
| 19:43.31 | Cyrannian | ded again brb |
| 19:44.57 | OluapPlayer | false alarm he's gone again |
| 19:59.24 | Xho | So I went on Sims 3 |
| 19:59.28 | Xho | 1000 FPS |
| 20:00.20 | OluapPlayer | I'd expect it to be capped at 30 |
| 20:02.43 | Xho | It can be capped |
| 20:02.52 | Xho | It's gone down to 275 now |
| 20:05.00 | OluapPlayer | Anything higher than 60 is more or less irrelevant |
| 20:05.34 | Xho | ur irrelevant |
| 20:14.52 | TetrisD | welcome to pi time |
| 20:15.30 | TetrisD | you are now leaveing pi time, thank you for your visit |
| 20:16.13 | TetrisD | AND YOUR SOUL |
| 20:34.02 | Hachiman | https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/14484681_1098292066886255_8821061362131044038_n.jpg?oh=0af7c8f0431c326ad5f6cc59c3c84924&oe=586DEE01 |
| 20:44.21 | Tek0516 | When I went to this convention thing last month they had giant signs for that series running literally along an entire wall of the hall. |
| 20:44.54 | Monet | Hachiman: Wow Huffington you guys are *late*! |
| 20:46.58 | Monet | Nice commentary though. |
| 21:17.15 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 21:23.18 | OluapPlayer | Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4R08vQBeBA |
| 21:24.08 | Xho | Did they just take all of my games into one video or something |
| 21:25.51 | Xho | The one with the Spy and the Engineers can't have been real |
| 21:34.45 | OluapPlayer | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYUego6W8yw STOMP |
| 21:36.14 | Xho | Probably one of the most annoying ways to die in that game |
| 21:38.42 | Xho | OluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bULmuDafMYM |
| 21:39.28 | OluapPlayer | dat description |
| 21:39.56 | OluapPlayer | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLp4nb6atDE superior version |
| 21:40.22 | Xho | Funny I just saw that |
| 21:40.46 | Imperios | OluapPlayer Xho Hachiman Monet: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Empire_of_Man_Coat_of_Arms.png Fuck, I decided to remake it |
| 21:41.00 | Xho | eeguls |
| 21:41.08 | OluapPlayer | Good job |
| 21:41.14 | OluapPlayer | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSCiMbMVDLI final boss edition |
| 21:41.44 | Hachiman | That's a pretty nice coat |
| 21:42.21 | Monet | I think this is much more appropriate. |
| 21:42.26 | Imperios | I'll actually finish it tomorrow |
| 21:42.32 | Imperios | It still needs a few finishing touches |
| 21:42.55 | Imperios | Like I want to include arms of all Imperial member states |
| 21:42.58 | Wormy_away | Hachiman: People explore an abandoned nuclear power plant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONEm1ph3MP4 |
| 21:43.01 | Cyrannian | Very nice Imp |
| 21:43.16 | Monet | Imperios: I wish you good luck in that. |
| 21:43.21 | Imperios | What kind of arms would Mannazia have though |
| 21:43.30 | OluapPlayer | racist ones |
| 21:44.46 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: http://cs5.pikabu.ru/images/big_size_comm/2014-04_3/13973567861110.jpg Like this one? |
| 21:45.06 | Xho | Hachiman: I dare someone to do a Gabe version of Bleed |
| 21:45.12 | OluapPlayer | The head is like "whatever" |
| 21:45.44 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: http://s4.pikabu.ru/post_img/big/2014/09/16/6/1410856899_1527223709.png |
| 21:46.16 | OluapPlayer | They really don't like that guy eh |
| 21:47.38 | Hachiman | Imperios: For Mannazia, not sure |
| 21:47.42 | Hachiman | What would you suggest? |
| 21:48.01 | Imperios | Well there's that design that I have here underneath the arms |
| 21:48.01 | Hachiman | Maybe something involving swords / axes and wolves |
| 21:48.06 | Imperios | Like look at the bottom of the chains |
| 21:48.23 | Hachiman | Ooh that is good |
| 21:50.11 | Imperios | A sword upon a baton of lightning |
| 21:50.12 | Imperios | Like |
| 21:50.14 | Imperios | Sword |
| 21:50.15 | Imperios | Lightning |
| 21:50.20 | Imperios | Storm |
| 21:50.21 | Imperios | Sword |
| 21:51.22 | OluapPlayer | Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNpNTuyZzSE |
| 21:51.55 | Hachiman | I get you hur |
| 21:52.00 | Hachiman | I like that idea |
| 22:01.41 | Imperios | And there's the phoenix on the crest |
| 22:01.52 | Imperios | Wanted to have it for a while but never could make him appear good |
| 22:02.29 | Imperios | Xho: We might as well actually make up a story about why exactly humans have a *phoenix* on their crest |
| 22:04.18 | Xho | Kinmo - im god why else |
| 22:04.54 | Imperios | Something like "Kinmo went to Empire once, they were really nice to him and he was nice to them and so they decided to commemorate that" |
| 22:05.09 | OluapPlayer | xho's phoenixes aren't even phoenix like |
| 22:05.12 | OluapPlayer | fug u |
| 22:06.01 | Xho | gold phoenix tho |
| 22:06.22 | OluapPlayer | its just men with beaks |
| 22:06.52 | OluapPlayer | Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY2rD322UR4 caveman-tier Gmodding |
| 22:07.41 | *** join/#sporewiki NeonPanda (3a6b1c72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.58.107.28.114) |
| 22:07.46 | NeonPanda | hi all |
| 22:07.53 | OluapPlayer | hi |
| 22:08.04 | Monet | Hello |
| 22:08.09 | Imperios | Xho: Actually, what if this is Aur? |
| 22:08.38 | Xho | Orichalcum Elf - >hates elves >speaks our language >has our goddess on their coat of arms OH THE IRONY |
| 22:09.54 | Imperios | I just kind of thought the phoenix would be appropriate for the Empire |
| 22:10.02 | Imperios | "We rise up from the ashes AND BURN EVERYTHING"} |
| 22:10.43 | OluapPlayer | I doubt you'd need a real explanation for a coat of arms. Real-life ones have mythological animals in it and they don't exist |
| 22:10.51 | OluapPlayer | in them* |
| 22:11.17 | Monet | They're symbolic though |
| 22:12.07 | OluapPlayer | Yes, they're used because of symbolism, not because they met dragons or griffins in real life |
| 22:12.27 | Monet | Dragons may not exist but there's an ancient Welsh legend of a long conflict between the red dragon of Wales and a white dragon of England. |
| 22:13.34 | Xho | Phoenixes are more or less mythological to Koldenweltians as well doi |
| 22:13.58 | OluapPlayer | Your phoenixes are not like mythological phoenixes tho |
| 22:14.04 | OluapPlayer | They're a completely different thing |
| 22:14.11 | Xho | True |
| 22:14.21 | Xho | I did think of adding actual phoenixes to the Fantasyverse |
| 22:14.44 | Monet | Every myth has its roots in truth. As they say. |
| 22:15.08 | Xho | BUSH DID 9/11 |
| 22:16.00 | Xho | Although calling them Phoenixes would cause confusion in nomenclature so I'd probably call them a Songbird or something |
| 22:16.10 | OluapPlayer | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5WADmcCDO8 |
| 22:17.56 | Imperios | Firebird |
| 22:18.15 | Imperios | Or call them like we do |
| 22:18.19 | Imperios | "Heat-birds" |
| 22:18.37 | Xho | Kinmorunddraver - wow it just sounds like you put a chicken in an oven |
| 22:18.47 | Imperios | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firebird_(Slavic_folklore) Oh wait it is translated as Firebird into English |
| 22:19.42 | Xho | Probably be one of the many creatures deemed holy by Aur worshippers |
| 22:20.06 | OluapPlayer | All 2 of them |
| 22:20.49 | Xho | wat dat den smarty |
| 22:21.30 | OluapPlayer | Longinus and Septimus hur |
| 22:21.42 | Xho | Longinus - deus vult and all that |
| 22:21.52 | Xho | Nalashtannylor has more, generally avian creatures because burd |
| 22:22.30 | Xho | I could imagine a giant-ass bird with thunder/storm magic |
| 22:22.39 | Xho | inb4 Storm Colossus |
| 22:22.43 | NeonPanda | when in doubt, bird worship bird |
| 22:23.48 | Xho | Keep forgetting it's lightning magic |
| 22:23.55 | OluapPlayer | Spots already taken |
| 22:24.11 | Xho | Well not colossus-type, just big bird |
| 22:25.11 | Xho | As for Storm Elementals there are nine of them, one of which is a lion and the other actually is a big bird |
| 22:25.57 | Xho | I had ideas for a pair of Storm Elementals that actually manifest as clouds given shape |
| 22:26.39 | Xho | That would make four, the five others not sure |
| 22:26.49 | Xho | A wolf most likely, and possibly a bear |
| 22:28.23 | Xho | Alright these old lore questions about my fiction are really beginning to bother me |
| 22:29.08 | DrodoEmpire | den edit ur fiction stupit |
| 22:29.21 | Xho | I did but people are still questioning it |
| 22:29.33 | Xho | I need to go through a mass deletion |
| 22:29.44 | OluapPlayer | No one is currently asking anything |
| 22:30.01 | OluapPlayer | Also I can't see how discussing your own fiction is a bad thinjg |
| 22:30.16 | Xho | I mean 7etrisD on the wiki is asking me questions about Kamik'Shi and Nexidium |
| 22:30.22 | Xho | Old school shit that grates on me |
| 22:30.27 | OluapPlayer | Oh that |
| 22:30.32 | OluapPlayer | I thought you meant the IRC |
| 22:32.38 | Xho | Oh I can close the thread |
| 22:32.39 | Xho | this is good |
| 22:32.43 | *** join/#sporewiki NeonPanda (3a6b1c72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.58.107.28.114) |
| 22:33.35 | Xho | I don't really like being asked questions in general |
| 22:33.55 | Technobliterator | totally forgot about that thing where my bot was deleting unused images |
| 22:33.58 | Technobliterator | time to run again |
| 22:33.59 | Technobliterator | yaay |
| 22:34.06 | DrodoEmpire | Why don't you like being asked questions, huh? |
| 22:34.07 | DrodoEmpire | >.> |
| 22:34.07 | Imperios | Charles_Murray: I just realised |
| 22:34.14 | DrodoEmpire | Tech: Oh shit |
| 22:34.16 | DrodoEmpire | One sec |
| 22:34.24 | Imperios | Why does the French Empire not have a coat of arms? |
| 22:34.25 | Imperios | Like |
| 22:34.31 | Imperios | Alexandre is an emperor |
| 22:34.33 | DrodoEmpire | Can I just post this one picture I have to my userpage first? >.< |
| 22:34.36 | Imperios | It is very odd that he does not have arms |
| 22:34.39 | Technobliterator | do it |
| 22:34.40 | DrodoEmpire | Pretty sure he has a coat of arms actually |
| 22:34.42 | Xho | DrodoEmpire: get stuffed with a catcus m8 |
| 22:34.43 | DrodoEmpire | Dunno what it is |
| 22:34.43 | Technobliterator | it's running atm |
| 22:34.47 | DrodoEmpire | Xho >: |
| 22:35.33 | NeonPanda | stuffed with a cactus? gettin a little aggressive there |
| 22:35.49 | Xho | i'll stuff everyone with a cactus |
| 22:35.51 | Imperios | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/78/Seal_of_the_Emperor_of_the_French.png/revision/latest?cb=20150510221920 There's that seal |
| 22:35.52 | OluapPlayer | Xho not making aggressive remarks wouldn't be right |
| 22:35.55 | Xho | October 2nd special offer |
| 22:35.57 | Imperios | But it's not *really* arms |
| 22:36.44 | Monet | Could it relate to how Alexandre wasn't born into aristocracy? |
| 22:36.49 | NeonPanda | I just discovered Panic! at the Disco is playing in Brisbane at the end of January, this pleases me |
| 22:37.04 | Imperios | Monet: Neither was Napoleon, for example |
| 22:37.15 | Imperios | Or, say, the Rotschilds |
| 22:37.21 | Xho | NeonPanda: get meshuggah'd |
| 22:37.30 | NeonPanda | noh |
| 22:38.13 | Monet | But unlike them Alexandre was born into a France that hasn't had an aristocracy for centuries. |
| 22:38.18 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Many commoner families have some sort of arms or seal regardless |
| 22:38.20 | Charles_Murray | In class |
| 22:38.32 | Xho | get bak to learnin kid |
| 22:38.36 | DrodoEmpire | Depending on where you go |
| 22:38.54 | Charles_Murray | Aristocratic coat of arms is highly regulated and systematized, has tons of rules and such |
| 22:39.07 | Charles_Murray | Alexandre is not an emperor of that tradition |
| 22:39.11 | Charles_Murray | His is not a crown |
| 22:39.14 | Charles_Murray | his is an office |
| 22:39.31 | Xho | Imagine the flak if he did start wearing a crown tho |
| 22:39.40 | Charles_Murray | ^ exactly |
| 22:40.02 | NeonPanda | wears one just to be special |
| 22:40.03 | Imperios | But he is, well, an emperor |
| 22:40.21 | Charles_Murray | Not that simple |
| 22:40.22 | Imperios | Like Napoleon's monarchy was very much different to all others before him |
| 22:40.23 | Charles_Murray | Gotta focus |
| 22:41.00 | Monet | Let's wait until Charles' class is done |
| 22:41.10 | DrodoEmpire | On that subject, I figure almost all Drodo clans and titles come with emblems and arms |
| 22:41.21 | Xho | Man I wish I was back at school, or college or whatever |
| 22:41.26 | NeonPanda | "Apparently at some point in this stream I dropped exactly one frame. If anyone finds it, please let me know. It was probably an I-frame." |
| 22:41.33 | Xho | Or doing something else with my life that wasn't this |
| 22:41.35 | DrodoEmpire | Clans would have a family crest of sorts, while some titles would have a seal or emblem of their own bestowed to the holder |
| 22:42.15 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Perhaps rather than European arms they look more like tamgas? |
| 22:42.29 | Imperios | It'd be handy to use when branding all their many horses |
| 22:43.04 | Xho | I just still find it weird that horses are still used ceremoniously in the 29th century |
| 22:43.04 | Monet | Xho: Don't worry, only a full year before you can start university. |
| 22:43.11 | Xho | Monet: god fucking help me |
| 22:43.46 | Monet | Only a year mate |
| 22:44.13 | Imperios | Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02p7D9H6_TA There be only one explanation |
| 22:44.31 | Xho | Oh god not this again |
| 22:44.56 | NeonPanda | why am I not surprised Imp has that recorded somewhere :P |
| 22:45.22 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWsSxewWLxo This was pretty much how I summarised my year |
| 22:45.28 | Imperios | NeonPanda: I do that to honour my great country and its great Empress, whose death we shall mourn forevermore |
| 22:45.41 | Hachiman | https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/14492390_467949610042093_6273682491735884610_n.png?oh=bfc7c38640efff61b1a1e8bdbb69ce6f&oe=58AB4F0B |
| 22:45.57 | NeonPanda | you mean the one who died because she actually fucked a horse? |
| 22:46.05 | Imperios | Who else |
| 22:46.37 | Wormy_away | goodnight |
| 22:46.38 | Imperios | She was a slut but she was a slut who was very good at statecraft |
| 22:46.38 | NeonPanda | I mean, there's other people in Russia's history to be proud of but I ain't gonna judge |
| 22:46.39 | NeonPanda | much |
| 22:46.43 | Imperios | Well |
| 22:46.46 | Imperios | She was one of the best |
| 22:46.49 | Xho | I actually lost a subscriber making that video it was that bad |
| 22:47.04 | Imperios | And unlike Peter and Ivan the Terrible did not slaughter half of the country in the process of doing great things |
| 22:47.18 | Imperios | Or Stalin or Lenin or like most other notorious Russian rulers |
| 22:47.24 | Hachiman | Ivan the Terrible... Terribly Great, you mean |
| 22:47.57 | Imperios | His title does not have a negative connotation in Russian |
| 22:48.03 | Imperios | He is actually more like "Ivan the Terrifying" |
| 22:48.07 | Hachiman | Oh hur |
| 22:48.14 | NeonPanda | don't forget the crazy guy who basically just said "no" to dying |
| 22:48.24 | Hachiman | >Implying Rasputin helped Russia |
| 22:48.31 | Imperios | Well |
| 22:48.36 | Imperios | He helped the royal heir |
| 22:48.37 | Imperios | For a while |
| 22:48.52 | Hachiman | I mean to be fair, Nikolas was overthrown because of Rasputin and Nikolas was a fucking imbecile from what I recall |
| 22:49.07 | Imperios | Nicholar was a fucking footstool |
| 22:49.08 | NeonPanda | tbh if we had a guy who took that long to hurry up and die we'd probably have a statue or twenty of them by now |
| 22:49.17 | Monet | And So yeah, he helped get rid of a moron czar. |
| 22:50.26 | *** join/#sporewiki TetrisD (47aa34cc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.170.52.204) |
| 22:51.28 | Imperios | I still find it retarded how Alexander II died |
| 22:51.37 | Imperios | The most liberal Tsar in history |
| 22:51.43 | Imperios | WAS KILLED BY FUCKING REVOLUTIONARIES |
| 22:52.41 | NeonPanda | I dunno, you did have an Empress who died via horse intercourse |
| 22:52.49 | NeonPanda | puts things in perspetive |
| 22:52.54 | Charles_Murray | Didn't actually happen |
| 22:52.55 | NeonPanda | perspective* |
| 22:53.04 | Imperios | Well yeah she actually died on her toilet |
| 22:53.10 | Hachiman | Yeah, afraid to say that didn't happen in truth |
| 22:53.14 | Imperios | But that toiled was fashioned out of the throne of the King of Poland |
| 22:53.18 | Imperios | *toilet |
| 22:53.36 | NeonPanda | I'm fully aware it didn't actually happen, but it's too good a story to not immediately claim it as the truth regardless |
| 22:54.03 | Imperios | "Hey I introduced democratic self-government in governorates, freed the serfs, and was about to draft a constitutio-" "FUCK YOU ARE NOT PROGRESSIVE ENOUGH WE'RE BLOWING YOU UP BECAUSE IT'S 1881" |
| 22:54.13 | Imperios | ^ The SJWs of the 19th century |
| 22:54.34 | Hachiman | Excuse me, did you just assume their timeframe |
| 22:55.21 | NeonPanda | they'll have you know they measure time by the ancient Mayan calendar |
| 22:55.43 | Imperios | Hachiman: Did you just assume my assumption of their timeframe |
| 22:55.49 | Technobliterator | Wasn't Alexander II still a jackass, though? |
| 22:55.56 | Imperios | Technobliterator: Nah |
| 22:56.17 | Technobliterator | I remember that the WWI Tsar was incompetent |
| 22:56.23 | Imperios | That's Nicholas II |
| 22:56.27 | Technobliterator | ah |
| 22:56.28 | Imperios | Alexander II was a cool guy |
| 22:56.32 | Imperios | Freed the serfs and all that |
| 22:56.32 | Monet | In 1881 France was a republic and America was once again united after fighting over the use of slavery. |
| 22:56.35 | Imperios | Nicholar II = retard |
| 22:56.39 | Imperios | *Nicholas |
| 22:56.42 | Imperios | This reminds me |
| 22:56.56 | Imperios | Why is Alexandre I *Alexandre* and not *Alexander* as per royal tradition? |
| 22:57.02 | Imperios | Like |
| 22:57.57 | Imperios | Royal names are usually translated into the appropriate language |
| 22:58.00 | NeonPanda | also I love how despite Imp being the one that brings it up most frequently, I'm the one that gets three people jumping on me to remind me it never happened :P |
| 22:58.18 | Imperios | Hence "Nikolay II" becomes "Nicholas II" |
| 22:58.21 | Monet | Imperios: You answered your own question |
| 22:58.44 | Imperios | Monet: I mean the SporeWiki baguetteperor |
| 22:58.56 | Monet | French appears to have superseded English as the most prominent human language. |
| 22:59.04 | Monet | surpassed* |
| 22:59.50 | Imperios | Fair point actually |
| 23:00.01 | Hachiman | NeonPanda: So I've realised that in Pathfinder at least, nothing is stopping you from making a fast dwarf |
| 23:00.10 | NeonPanda | absolutely nothing |
| 23:00.16 | Imperios | But like we are reading this in English |
| 23:00.17 | Hachiman | I find that thought fucking hilarious |
| 23:00.22 | Imperios | The wiki is in English |
| 23:00.30 | NeonPanda | although a fast dwarf is still a moderately quick human |
| 23:00.49 | Hachiman | Dwarven DEX Fighter just sounds so amusing in my head |
| 23:01.17 | OluapPlayer | VERY FAST beard scuttling at incredibly hihg speed |
| 23:01.22 | Hachiman | hur |
| 23:01.25 | Monet | Imperios: There are a number of foreign monarchs whose names don't get changed. |
| 23:01.38 | Monet | Like all the Louis |
| 23:01.39 | Imperios | Yeah but I think these are all non-European monarchs |
| 23:01.56 | Imperios | Isn't Louis an acceptable name in English tho |
| 23:01.56 | Hachiman | That reminds me |
| 23:02.04 | NeonPanda | with the exception of monks because somehow spending too much time buried in the kama sutra suddenly gives you +60 to movement |
| 23:02.12 | Imperios | or wait it would be... |
| 23:02.17 | Monet | If pronounced more like "lewis" then yes. It is. |
| 23:02.28 | Hachiman | Can speak from experience |
| 23:02.29 | Imperios | Holy shit Hachiman is the Sun King |
| 23:02.32 | Hachiman | On both ends |
| 23:02.44 | Imperios | Hachiman is the State |
| 23:02.49 | NeonPanda | suddenly dwarf moving at the speed of holy shit |
| 23:02.55 | Hachiman | olol |
| 23:03.03 | Hachiman | Why is Confucius called that when he was Chinese |
| 23:03.04 | NeonPanda | well, I say suddenly, I mean level 18 |
| 23:03.09 | Hachiman | I mean, it sounds like a Roman name |
| 23:03.28 | Monet | Hachiman: Because Eurocentric translators. |
| 23:03.34 | Hachiman | Ah |
| 23:04.08 | Imperios | Hachiman: Because his works were first brought to Europe by Jesuits, who, being a Catholic organisation, used Latin as their main language |
| 23:04.13 | Monet | Wikipedia (so don't quote me) says one of his titles was "Kong Fuzi" |
| 23:04.15 | Imperios | Kung Fu Zi -> Confucius |
| 23:04.17 | NeonPanda | his fancy title was Kong Fuzi |
| 23:04.29 | Imperios | And some of his disciples have Latin names too in English |
| 23:04.32 | Imperios | Meng Zi -> Mencius |
| 23:04.57 | Imperios | Mo Zi -> Mizius |
| 23:05.00 | Imperios | Micius even |
| 23:05.02 | Hachiman | Wonder what Sun Tzu's Eurocentric name would've been |
| 23:05.03 | Monet | "first coined by 16th-century Jesuit missionaries to China" |
| 23:05.06 | NeonPanda | I love asian titles, "Extremely Sage Departed Former Teacher" |
| 23:05.09 | Imperios | Well not Eurocentric |
| 23:05.11 | Imperios | Just Europeanised |
| 23:05.20 | Hachiman | You get what I mean hur |
| 23:05.29 | Imperios | Like I bet the Chinese whack European names too |
| 23:05.38 | Imperios | Though "Lewis" and "Louis" sounds of |
| 23:05.41 | Imperios | Sincius? |
| 23:05.51 | Imperios | Suncius? |
| 23:06.12 | Imperios | https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suncius I was right |
| 23:06.32 | Hachiman | Huh |
| 23:06.38 | NeonPanda | Imperios: not quite the same thing, but there was the Starrion automobile, a model down the line from the Colt |
| 23:07.36 | NeonPanda | and yes, as far as anyone can tell, it was meant to be Stallion but the Japanese company done fucked up |
| 23:07.43 | Hachiman | olol |
| 23:07.47 | Imperios | And on China's side |
| 23:07.49 | Imperios | We have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Sutras |
| 23:08.06 | Hachiman | Oh God |
| 23:08.50 | Imperios | A Chinese Christian text that refers to angels as "Buddhas" and saints as "arhats" |
| 23:09.15 | Imperios | Not even talking about the fucking TAIBEI HEAVENLY KINGDOM |
| 23:09.20 | Monet | I always read Tidus as "Tie-dus." Cus, yknow, he lives on a city surrounded by water. |
| 23:09.24 | Imperios | How crazy was that if they ever survived in the modern age |
| 23:09.32 | Imperios | *if they managed to survive to |
| 23:09.40 | Imperios | *would it be |
| 23:09.50 | Hachiman | That honestly sounds fucking hilarious |
| 23:09.53 | Imperios | How crazy would it be if they managed to survive to the modern age |
| 23:10.01 | DrodoEmpire | Taiping you mean? |
| 23:10.31 | DrodoEmpire | But- yeah, that'd be nuts >.< |
| 23:11.00 | Imperios | Oh wait yes |
| 23:11.02 | DrodoEmpire | I doubt it'd happen though- rebel states like that tend to be unstable and the Taiping became increasingly unstable as time went on |
| 23:11.04 | Imperios | Taibei is the capital of Taiwan |
| 23:11.11 | Monet | So I sort of wonder how hit-and-miss FF is with names |
| 23:11.18 | Imperios | Yes but |
| 23:11.20 | Imperios | CHINESE |
| 23:11.21 | Imperios | COMMUNIST |
| 23:11.22 | Imperios | CHRISTIAN |
| 23:11.25 | Imperios | FEMINIST |
| 23:11.25 | Imperios | ISIS |
| 23:11.33 | DrodoEmpire | hu |
| 23:11.34 | DrodoEmpire | *hur |
| 23:11.58 | Monet | Imperios: I think you're confusing Taping and Taipei. |
| 23:12.05 | Hachiman | Monet: How'd you mean? |
| 23:12.05 | Imperios | Yes I know |
| 23:12.08 | Imperios | My bad |
| 23:12.21 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah they were egalitarian fanatics who followed a spotty and syncretic brand of Christianity |
| 23:12.24 | Hachiman | FF is generally fairly good with how they name things |
| 23:12.44 | Monet | Hachiman: Well I gave my Tidus example. I wasn't aware until other people told me that it was supposed to be Teedas. |
| 23:12.56 | Hachiman | Oh right |
| 23:13.22 | NeonPanda | well, they're usually only loose correlations to start with, so they're about as good as can expect |
| 23:13.22 | Hachiman | I thought you meant as in the constant use of mythological names |
| 23:13.27 | Monet | I went ten bloody years calling him Tie-dus lol |
| 23:13.53 | NeonPanda | Monet: well you would, cos that's how it'd be pronounced in english |
| 23:14.40 | Monet | Hachiman: Well now that you mention it "Bahamut Zero" sounds like an odd pairing of words to me. |
| 23:15.25 | Hachiman | "Zero" is a 'cool word' really |
| 23:15.41 | Hachiman | You tag it onto something and makes it sound cooler; same with with 'Neo' and stuff like that |
| 23:15.47 | OluapPlayer | Neo Zero |
| 23:15.49 | OluapPlayer | beat dat |
| 23:15.53 | Hachiman | Zero Neo |
| 23:16.06 | OluapPlayer | Doesn't sound as cool dat |
| 23:16.25 | Hachiman | wat if i put NEO in capital letters tho |
| 23:16.29 | Hachiman | Zero NEO |
| 23:16.38 | NeonPanda | now ur just soundin pretentious |
| 23:17.05 | Monet | Well with Bahamut itself I'll let thing slide as they turned this https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/3e/a5/57/3ea5579525669bcc1f367071ac3ec60b.jpg into this http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/5/54/8b-bahamut.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100206113946 |
| 23:17.29 | Hachiman | Well |
| 23:17.34 | Hachiman | Bahamut is actually a dragon in D&D |
| 23:18.13 | OluapPlayer | Bahamut is a common dragon name in general afaik |
| 23:18.28 | Monet | That's probably form how he's worshipped by dragons. |
| 23:18.38 | OluapPlayer | Bahamut and Tiamat |
| 23:18.45 | Hachiman | Like how the actual mythological Tiamat is a primordial water goddess who manifests as a woman, but in D&D, she's also a dragon |
| 23:18.53 | OluapPlayer | need an evil dragon, just call it Tiamat |
| 23:19.24 | Hachiman | Bahamut and Tiamat are also from different religions and mythologies entirely iirc# |
| 23:19.57 | Hachiman | The only instance I can recall where Tiamat isn't an evil dragon is in Darksiders where she's a giant evil bat thing |
| 23:20.04 | Monet | Bahamut, at least in the Forgotten Realms, is a member of the draconic pantheon. |
| 23:20.07 | Hachiman | Or some wyvern that looks like a bat, whatever hur |
| 23:20.28 | OluapPlayer | Bahamut is the god of good dragons in D&D |
| 23:20.29 | Hachiman | Monet: I meant real life religion and mythology |
| 23:20.59 | Monet | Hachiman: This conversation is moving fast I apologise |
| 23:21.03 | Hachiman | All good |
| 23:21.18 | Monet | In real-world mythology, Bahamut's a fish. |
| 23:21.32 | Hachiman | Bahamut, patron of Chrome Dragons; Tiamat, patron of Firefox Dragons |
| 23:22.12 | OluapPlayer | took me a momen |
| 23:22.12 | OluapPlayer | t |
| 23:22.23 | Monet | Lol |
| 23:22.26 | *** join/#sporewiki Charles_Bot (uid94017@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-esircosdxzudnyep) |
| 23:22.32 | Charles_Bot | Imperios |
| 23:22.33 | OluapPlayer | That means drakes are the Internet Explorer of dragonkind |
| 23:22.39 | Charles_Bot | Great questions |
| 23:23.06 | NeonPanda | so what does that make Wyverns then? |
| 23:23.16 | Monet | Bahamut is a fish that holds the supporters of the world on its back. SO it's one big fucking fish. |
| 23:23.22 | Monet | NeonPanda: Safari |
| 23:23.36 | NeonPanda | ranking wyverns above drakes, interesting |
| 23:23.37 | Hachiman | Meanwhile fairy dragons are Opera |
| 23:23.46 | OluapPlayer | wyverns > drakes fite me |
| 23:24.03 | Charles_Bot | Alexandre is a monarch in the Valérist tradition as opposed to the European heraldic tradition, which is why he has a symbol as opposed to a heraldic coat of arms |
| 23:24.07 | NeonPanda | wyverns = dumb hick cousins |
| 23:24.30 | Monet | I mostly did it for the Mac-PC analogy. |
| 23:24.37 | Charles_Bot | As for his name, people actually encouraged me to stick with that name as opposed to making it Alexander when he became emperor |
| 23:24.50 | Charles_Bot | And yes because French rules :P |
| 23:25.08 | OluapPlayer | hyow dare u |
| 23:25.11 | OluapPlayer | wyverns are bae |
| 23:25.32 | NeonPanda | wyverns r the ones everyone else is embarrassed they're related to :P |
| 23:25.48 | Hachiman | But aren't drakes those dragons that don't have wings |
| 23:25.54 | Monet | The poor darlings, dragging their wings across the ground. |
| 23:26.23 | OluapPlayer | I find a bit weird that wyverns and drakes are separate things though |
| 23:26.28 | OluapPlayer | Many drakes are wyvern-shaped |
| 23:26.32 | Monet | Wyverns lack the grace to carry their wings gracefully. |
| 23:26.56 | NeonPanda | Hachiman: in old-school yeah, drakes lost their wings while wyverns lost their arms and fire breath and intelligence/charisma |
| 23:27.27 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:215639 ????? |
| 23:28.09 | OluapPlayer | Well I actually don't know how wyverns act in D&D, I like them from a myth perspective |
| 23:28.14 | OluapPlayer | Mostly because I like their body shape |
| 23:28.30 | Hachiman | Oluap finds wyverns sexy confirmed |
| 23:28.35 | Hachiman | fukin degenerate |
| 23:28.49 | OluapPlayer | DrodoEmpire: Stare too long into the abyss and the abyss stares back at you |
| 23:29.11 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 23:29.46 | NeonPanda | OluapPlayer: it's only a problem if the Abyss' boyfriend gets narky |
| 23:30.04 | OluapPlayer | cheekyu |
| 23:30.20 | OluapPlayer | Now I got reminded of that time I sent a pair of frost drakes + a wyvern at you |
| 23:30.25 | OluapPlayer | And Hachi insta-roasted the drakes |
| 23:30.44 | Hachiman | ka-BEWM |
| 23:30.48 | Monet | My guess is they melted. |
| 23:31.01 | Hachiman | They were ice drakes so kinda |
| 23:31.12 | Hachiman | Or frost even |
| 23:32.04 | OluapPlayer | Since that campaign fell flat I can say the Rusted Tyrant was supposed to be a Great White Wyrm in specific |
| 23:32.18 | Hachiman | So, more ice? |
| 23:32.25 | OluapPlayer | Lots of ice |
| 23:33.08 | Hachiman | Would only need more fireballs |
| 23:33.13 | OluapPlayer | A Great White Wyrm with some wind-themed spells since he was supposed to be an expy of http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/Kushala_Daora |
| 23:33.17 | Hachiman | Which I was working towards hur |
| 23:35.38 | Hachiman | You probably won't appreciate the fact that me and Panda planned to hang the Rusted Tyrant's head up on a wall somewhere or something like that after we killed it |
| 23:35.50 | OluapPlayer | You'd need a pretty big wall |
| 23:36.05 | OluapPlayer | Shame the fight never happened, I had some cool things in mind for it |
| 23:38.19 | Monet | brb |
| 23:38.20 | NeonPanda | we may have also planned to magic the crap out of things to turn the Tyrant's mountain into the capital city of a brand new kingdom |
| 23:38.46 | OluapPlayer | There was meant to be a giant castle in his moutain |
| 23:38.53 | OluapPlayer | Inhabited by ice kobolds |
| 23:38.57 | Hachiman | >ice kobolds |
| 23:39.01 | OluapPlayer | If you killed him they'd probably start serving you |
| 23:39.17 | Hachiman | aw yis |
| 23:39.30 | Hachiman | Kobolds are fucking great, I love them |
| 23:39.40 | NeonPanda | Kobolds are pretty great |
| 23:39.50 | NeonPanda | especially when it's time for midget-toss |
| 23:39.54 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 23:39.59 | OluapPlayer | dur |
| 23:39.59 | Hachiman | Shame that Koldenwelt kobolds are rat things |
| 23:40.12 | NeonPanda | Monet and his goddamn kobold tossing |
| 23:40.15 | NeonPanda | I still tell tales of that |
| 23:40.15 | Hachiman | I remember that time that Monet threw a kobold into another kobold and they both exploded |
| 23:40.17 | OluapPlayer | If you wanted to throw the ice kobolds off the castle then well |
| 23:40.25 | OluapPlayer | They'd be in for a pretty long fall |
| 23:40.36 | NeonPanda | Oluap: That's kinda the idea :P |
| 23:40.42 | OluapPlayer | That thing Monet pulled was pure Dwarf Fortress |
| 23:41.06 | Hachiman | Dwarfiest dwarf that ever did dwarf |
| 23:41.07 | NeonPanda | oh that reminds me, speaking of Dwarf Fortress, dorf campaign delving into the depths of an overrun dorffort |
| 23:41.18 | Hachiman | You mean... Underdark campaign? |
| 23:41.32 | OluapPlayer | You know that's a pretty feasible idea |
| 23:41.32 | NeonPanda | nice and straightforward, simple objective, can basically organise the whole thing as dungeons upon dungeons |
| 23:41.51 | OluapPlayer | That's actually a thing in the game |
| 23:41.55 | OluapPlayer | Reclaiming ruined fortresses |
| 23:42.01 | Hachiman | Isn't that Adventure Mode? |
| 23:42.08 | OluapPlayer | Nope, Fortress |
| 23:42.15 | OluapPlayer | You can choose to make a new fort, or reclaim a lost one |
| 23:42.16 | Hachiman | Ah |
| 23:42.56 | OluapPlayer | The length would depend on how deep you want to go |
| 23:43.01 | NeonPanda | dorf rogue incoming |
| 23:43.02 | OluapPlayer | I'd prefer if you went the deepest possible hur |
| 23:43.10 | NeonPanda | *winks* |
| 23:43.16 | OluapPlayer | listen here |
| 23:43.29 | OluapPlayer | If you go down the stairs you'll reach the circus |
| 23:43.35 | OluapPlayer | and meet all the nice clowns that live there |
| 23:43.48 | Hachiman | NO |
| 23:43.50 | NeonPanda | I'm not sure if that's meant to be a euphemism for something, but I'm going to assume it is |
| 23:43.51 | Hachiman | FUCK OFF |
| 23:44.07 | OluapPlayer | Of course it isn't, it's totally safe and you should totally do it |
| 23:44.34 | Hachiman | Anywhere where clowns are is a place I'm not |
| 23:44.49 | *** join/#sporewiki Monet (~Monet47@cpc90522-gill20-2-0-cust960.20-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 23:44.56 | OluapPlayer | The clowns are well hidden though |
| 23:45.04 | OluapPlayer | You have to get past the cotton candy to reach them |
| 23:45.10 | Hachiman | Hi, we were just discussing that time you did a Dorf Fort and made two kobolds explode |
| 23:45.12 | OluapPlayer | But when you do, it's a very interesting experience |
| 23:45.32 | NeonPanda | specifically, making two kobolds explode by throwing one kobold at another kobold |
| 23:45.34 | Hachiman | hao bout u take ur clown shoes an go fuk urself with dem |
| 23:45.57 | OluapPlayer | I'm surprised neither of you know the clown euphemism |
| 23:46.03 | OluapPlayer | Now I'm not sure if I want to explain it |
| 23:46.08 | Monet | I turned one Kobold into a grenade and killed what was it four or fie? |
| 23:46.09 | Hachiman | Go ahead hur |
| 23:46.22 | Monet | five* |
| 23:46.37 | OluapPlayer | At the risk of compromising the campaign |
| 23:46.41 | OluapPlayer | Cottn candy = adamantine |
| 23:46.44 | OluapPlayer | Clowns = demons |
| 23:46.48 | OluapPlayer | The circus = Hell |
| 23:46.56 | Hachiman | Oh God |
| 23:46.58 | Hachiman | Dwarven DOOM |
| 23:47.01 | Hachiman | I'm up for that |
| 23:47.01 | NeonPanda | ah, well we were probably going there eventually |
| 23:47.08 | NeonPanda | gotta be a balrog fight involved |
| 23:47.29 | OluapPlayer | Nah you'll get stuff like giant blobs made of steam and giant hairy gila monsters who can spit web |
| 23:47.29 | OluapPlayer | s |
| 23:47.52 | NeonPanda | floor 1: goblins, floor 2: undead, floor 3: the everlasting legions of kal'thrizxaaaaad the slightly disgruntled |
| 23:47.54 | Hachiman | Yeah demons in Dorf Fort are fucking weird |
| 23:48.00 | Hachiman | hur |
| 23:48.08 | OluapPlayer | DF demons are procedually generated |
| 23:48.17 | Hachiman | You know what would be worse for us to fight |
| 23:48.19 | Hachiman | Angels |
| 23:48.27 | OluapPlayer | You won't find angels in a fort |
| 23:48.32 | OluapPlayer | Be grateful for that |
| 23:48.47 | Monet | My favourite forgotten beast has to be that pheasant that breathed fire. |
| 23:49.03 | Monet | It burned the forest, the caverns of my initial burrow, dwarves, and itself. |
| 23:49.09 | Hachiman | kek |
| 23:49.12 | OluapPlayer | >and itself |
| 23:49.14 | OluapPlayer | Fucking lel |
| 23:49.18 | NeonPanda | excellent |
| 23:49.33 | OluapPlayer | We could do that |
| 23:49.38 | OluapPlayer | In fact we very much should |
| 23:49.39 | Hachiman | Holy shit that made me giggle |
| 23:49.48 | Hachiman | but wat bout muh rp |
| 23:50.00 | OluapPlayer | ur rp is shit lol |
| 23:50.04 | NeonPanda | people can RP during shit, that's what we were doing before |
| 23:50.05 | Hachiman | waaa |
| 23:50.09 | Monet | As far as I could tell it basically burned off all its fat. |
| 23:50.10 | OluapPlayer | Exactly |
| 23:50.17 | NeonPanda | also dorf rogue, calling it now |
| 23:50.22 | OluapPlayer | That's how fire works in DF |
| 23:50.29 | OluapPlayer | It melts your fat, causing you to bleed to death |
| 23:50.52 | Hachiman | Can I play a Duergar and flavour it as being one of those dwarves that get sick at the sight of sunlight |
| 23:50.55 | Monet | Still, awfully convenient that I got invaded by a pheasant that roasted itself. |
| 23:51.08 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman: That happens to all dwarves |
| 23:51.28 | OluapPlayer | Monet: You want to be in this campaign? It's about dwarves exploring and reclaiming a destroyed fortress |
| 23:51.30 | Hachiman | i wunt muh ironskin alternate racial trait and den dose nat armur feats |
| 23:52.03 | NeonPanda | I've actually been sitting on the idea of a dwarf rogue for a while so this will happen |
| 23:52.22 | Monet | OluapPLayer: Could do |
| 23:52.28 | OluapPlayer | Coolio |
| 23:52.37 | Hachiman | I'll play an elf |
| 23:52.43 | NeonPanda | with big tits? |
| 23:52.46 | Hachiman | Yes |
| 23:52.49 | OluapPlayer | get off ma metaphorical table |
| 23:52.54 | OluapPlayer | REMOVE ELF |
| 23:53.01 | Hachiman | non u made ur table out of cut down wood |
| 23:53.13 | Hachiman | y not grow it like the elf do |
| 23:53.22 | NeonPanda | inb4 randemonium game |
| 23:53.26 | OluapPlayer | cus dwarves must make the tree suffer before they use it |
| 23:53.29 | OluapPlayer | It's in their blood |
| 23:53.32 | OluapPlayer | Praise Armok |
| 23:53.39 | NeonPanda | which given the nature of dwarf fort is actually fitting |
| 23:53.56 | OluapPlayer | I'm just wondering at what level you guys should start |
| 23:54.06 | NeonPanda | 1 or 3 |
| 23:54.06 | OluapPlayer | Because, the deeper you go, the more dangerous the enemies get |
| 23:54.22 | Hachiman | Preferably 3 pls |
| 23:54.33 | NeonPanda | pref 3 so unchained rogue can induce tears |
| 23:54.36 | OluapPlayer | Level 3 party vs forgotten beast |
| 23:54.37 | OluapPlayer | rite |
| 23:54.48 | Hachiman | We're gonna run into a necromancer at some point I imagine |
| 23:54.53 | Hachiman | Or a vampire or a werebeast or something |
| 23:54.57 | Hachiman | Or ALL of those |
| 23:54.58 | NeonPanda | but seriously, sudden random tables everywhere (and by that I mean encounter tables, loot tables, e.t.c.) |
| 23:55.00 | OluapPlayer | If you're willing to give me the idea then sure |
| 23:55.18 | OluapPlayer | I'm not sure how to make loot in this |
| 23:55.19 | NeonPanda | Hachiman: all of them, simultaneously, in a y'know I'm not gonna go there |
| 23:55.27 | OluapPlayer | Beyond you stealing the enemy dead's stuff |
| 23:55.29 | Hachiman | threesum |
| 23:55.32 | Hachiman | I imagine part of the adventure should actually be GETTING to the fort |
| 23:55.46 | NeonPanda | nah, adventure starts as we kick the door down |
| 23:55.55 | NeonPanda | OluapPlayer: random chests, loot piles, e.t.c. |
| 23:56.13 | OluapPlayer | hope you're ready to fight hordes of naked troglodytes |
| 23:56.15 | OluapPlayer | just like in-game |
| 23:56.23 | NeonPanda | secret caches that would require a dashing (by dorf standards) rogue to discover and open |
| 23:56.38 | NeonPanda | there are non-naked troglodytes? |
| 23:56.38 | OluapPlayer | That'd work |
| 23:56.43 | OluapPlayer | Nope |
| 23:56.50 | OluapPlayer | But there are non-naked humans |
| 23:57.01 | NeonPanda | *shudders* |
| 23:57.14 | OluapPlayer | And the occasional chinchilla man |
| 23:57.37 | Monet | Troggs. Most irritating Warcraft enemy. Worse than murlocs |
| 23:57.44 | OluapPlayer | But alright then, make level 3 chars |
| 23:58.16 | Hachiman | imma make a dwarf summoner and giv myself a stand |
| 23:58.27 | OluapPlayer | fuk off with ur bara shit |
| 23:58.27 | NeonPanda | u and ur jojo |
| 23:58.32 | NeonPanda | u got no mojo |
| 23:58.33 | NeonPanda | joj |
| 23:58.35 | NeonPanda | jojo* |
| 23:58.39 | NeonPanda | dammit I ruined it |
| 23:58.50 | Hachiman | [M E N A C I N G intensifies] |
| 23:59.06 | OluapPlayer | Only menacing you'll get is being ambushed by giant cave spiders |
