IRC log for #sporewiki on 20161001

00:22.48DrodoEmpirehttp://imgur.com/gallery/wq232
00:27.24Monethttp://imgur.com/gallery/INzFpoO "Stupid Obama! He could have done so much more than issuing a warning and then a veto we all overrode."
00:28.58DrodoEmpire>.<
00:29.14DrodoEmpirehttp://imgur.com/gallery/eR1BM - How to kill off all the superstitious people <.<\
00:32.43Monet"you can consult the stars, but, like, they're not going to help you when the crab people come"
00:33.30DrodoEmpirehur
00:33.54MonetActually if horoscopes had a grain of truth to it imagine: One week of the year millions of people turn on each other because the stars decreed they would.
00:34.09DrodoEmpireYeah...
00:34.29DrodoEmpireHonestly, its pure chance and human bias I think that makes people believe them
00:34.47MonetIt is
00:35.13DrodoEmpireI mean, enough people read their horoscopes for it to hit the mark *sometimes*, assisted by the fact that people will interpret what happened to them recently to fit the foretelling
00:35.27DrodoEmpireOr, I dunno, could be real
00:35.29DrodoEmpire:p
00:35.58DrodoEmpireI enjoy superstitions, and I'd be lying if I didn't indulge in them a little or value them as part of my culture
00:36.16MonetThey're entertaining and intriguing
00:36.25DrodoEmpire*if I said I didn't
00:40.16MonetI've come to like a few conspiracies myself. They're fun fiction.
00:41.14DrodoEmpireYeah those too
00:41.41MonetAlso I suppose they're a byproduct of creativity
00:41.45Technobliteratorjust browse one of the biggest comedy channels on YouTube
00:41.47TechnobliteratorInfowars
00:41.56DrodoEmpirehur
00:42.13DrodoEmpireYeah conspiracy theories are, for the most part, a fun sorta science fiction
00:42.46Technobliteratorhonestly, the 50% or so times Infowars is right on things is not enough for me to consider it anything other than just crazy
00:43.01DrodoEmpireEhh yeah
00:43.22DrodoEmpireI mean, I don't watch infowars like *at all* but I don't mind some of the personalities on there
00:43.35DrodoEmpireJones is pretty nuts, but he's only one of the people
00:43.58DrodoEmpireI still prefer Secular Talk when it comes to YT news media though
00:44.03Technobliteratoryup
00:44.12Technobliteratorhe's probably the best at it
00:44.46DrodoEmpireDefinitely one of the best of his genre
00:44.58Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/Dggbs7f
00:45.15DrodoEmpireolol
00:45.54Technobliteratorhe tends to be the most reasonable and does way more research for his videos than some others
00:46.24Technobliteratorproblem is, when you do news of any sort, there's a rush to get it out there as soon as possible, so some outlets just jump the gun and released something overly biased or just bad
00:46.31DrodoEmpireYeah...
00:46.38Technobliteratorcoughtytcough
00:46.43DrodoEmpire^
00:46.52DrodoEmpiretbh I think TYT can be pretty crazy yeah
00:47.07DrodoEmpireThey used to be good, I hear
00:47.09DrodoEmpireReally good
00:47.14DrodoEmpireBut then a lot of their people left
00:47.26DrodoEmpireDave Rubin, Kyle, etc.
00:47.37Wormy_Everytime I read the horoscope I find it strangely relevant, but then, they are written in such a general manner anyone can find meaning in them
00:47.49DrodoEmpire^
00:47.54TechnobliteratorThey still are good, a lot of hte time. It's just the 30% of the time they come out stupid
00:47.58DrodoEmpireAhh
00:48.21Tek0516"If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a cartographer." - John Quincy Adams > So apparently the author and quote is wrong, but as someone who does a lot of fiction maps I love this Civ6 tech quote for cartography. :P
00:48.22TechnobliteratorCenk can either be really enteratining to watch and give a great take on something, or just an asshole
00:48.31DrodoEmpireMeh, Kyle's only dumb like 5% of the time, and even then its usually like a gaffe or because its put out there quick
00:48.35TechnobliteratorSame with Jimmy Dore and to an extent Ana
00:48.35Technobliteratoryeah
00:48.46DrodoEmpireNot a core flaw
00:49.05DrodoEmpireTek: Ahh lol
00:49.17TechnobliteratorKyle just comes off as way more reasonable while still as entertaining
00:49.49DrodoEmpire^
00:50.21DrodoEmpireHmm
00:50.32DrodoEmpireI wonder what the Drodoian Ottzello Colonies should be like
00:51.11Technobliteratorhm, well
00:51.25TechnobliteratorI presume they would be focused around things like andasium mining
00:51.30DrodoEmpireI try to give each colonial territory of the Drodo a unique personality or flavour- the Union (Quadrants) are hard-nosed, patriotic working people, while the Grand Duchy (Andromeda) is a haven for culture and traditional aristocracy
00:51.43Technobliteratoralso, I kind of want new Ottzello to be more of a business centre of Borealis
00:51.50DrodoEmpireHmm, alright
00:52.10DrodoEmpireSo the Ottzelloan colonies might attract a lot of entrepeneurs, tradespeople, and working-class folk
00:52.15TechnobliteratorYup
00:52.18DrodoEmpireCool cool
00:52.31DrodoEmpireVery similar actually to what's happening in like Alberta today
00:52.38Technobliteratoralso, again with Ottzello, assimilation there isn't really a thing
00:52.54Technobliteratorso culturally it should be more like normal Drodo territory
00:53.09DrodoEmpireI'd figure as its sovereign Drodo land
00:53.12DrodoEmpire<.<
00:53.24DrodoEmpireNova Scotia- where I live- is being drained of all its young men as they go out west for a few years to the oil fields
00:53.36DrodoEmpireOr forever, that too
00:53.37DrodoEmpire>.>
00:53.52Technobliteratorthe only exception really is Loron territory, but no one goes there
00:53.58DrodoEmpireYeah, makes sense
00:54.01Technobliteratorbecause those are places where murder and theft are legal
00:54.03Technobliteratoramong other things
00:54.05DrodoEmpire^
00:54.30DrodoEmpireJust as well, Ottzello could be a big attractor for young Drodo men or poor farmer families
00:55.21DrodoEmpireMaybe also a good destination for native Ottzelloans who live outside of the URO or other big powers- though maybe the Andromedans would be less gung-ho on that in preference for Imperial settlers
00:55.57DrodoEmpireand, I mean, there are the Chalag who have like no immigration control at all <.<
00:56.07Technobliteratorit probably would be, since most of Ottzello outside of URO is dangerous
00:56.15DrodoEmpireYeah
00:56.56DrodoEmpireBoth the Chalag and Imperial ottzello would be more stable places- you'd probably earn more and definitely have more opportunities in Drodo Ottzello but I think it'd be hard to get in
00:56.59TechnobliteratorI'm trying to think of an example nation in the real world that URO is most like
00:57.11Technobliteratorobviously being a rentier state, they're like Saudi Arabia, but the similarities literally end right there
00:57.16DrodoEmpireYeah
00:57.25Technobliteratorother than that, they're basically the exact opposite of everything Saudi Arabia stands for
00:57.31DrodoEmpire^
00:57.33Technobliteratormaybe more like South Korea? Japan? I'm not sure
00:57.45DrodoEmpireA nordic state?
00:57.49DrodoEmpire(Large welfare net, etc.)
00:57.56MonetI was going to say, what about Norway?
00:58.39TechnobliteratorHmm
00:58.45TechnobliteratorYeah, possibly
00:58.48DrodoEmpireWhile with the Chalag Khanate you'd earn less and more or less be permanently part of an alien caste (the Drodo Urdesi minority act as a ruling caste, putting themselves over the aliens but otherwise being fair enough rulers), but its easy in
00:59.27DrodoEmpire(Basically if the Urdesi were the citizens of ancient rome, the aliens were the non-citizens)
01:01.21TechnobliteratorI kind of feel like it's a mix of Norway and South Korea
01:01.29DrodoEmpireAhh, makes sense
01:01.51Technobliteratorlarge welfare state, but very industrialised economy
01:01.54DrodoEmpireRight
01:02.08DrodoEmpireHmm, so being a rentier state a lot of Drodo would be working in URO right?
01:02.16Technobliteratorand big on trading
01:02.17Technobliteratormhm
01:02.20DrodoEmpireCool cool
01:02.26Technobliteratorin rented space etc
01:02.30DrodoEmpireYeah
01:02.39DrodoEmpireShould be pretty interesting, I guess
01:02.55DrodoEmpireThough, if this space is rented would it also be more or less out of the way of heavily settled areas?
01:03.26TechnobliteratorMostly, since a lot of the mining takes place on planets that were barren to begin with or asteroids
01:03.33DrodoEmpireI just have the funny mental image of bewildered Drodo from a rural agriworld walking about a big URO city
01:03.38DrodoEmpireMakes sense
01:03.42Technobliteratorhahaha
01:03.43Technobliteratoryeah
01:03.55DrodoEmpireSticking out like a sore thumb, no doubt >.<
01:04.09DrodoEmpireAlright, cool
01:04.21Technobliteratorlots of Loron territory is probably full of mines since that's the only way their states can fund free pizza
01:04.39DrodoEmpire^
01:05.47MonetMaybe smashing at rocks is the only fun non-crime form of industry they have.
01:06.08DrodoEmpireDunno if the Loron are bright enough to handle such a scheme but illicit trafficking might be another big industry in Drodo space- especially given the prevalence of Borderlanders in that area of Borealis who make experienced smugglers
01:06.17DrodoEmpire*Loron space
01:06.20DrodoEmpireNot Drodo space
01:06.20DrodoEmpire>.<
01:07.01Technobliteratorwell, monet, they do have rap battles as well
01:07.16Technobliteratorillicit trafficking?
01:07.31DrodoEmpireContraband, like illegal weapons and drugs
01:07.41Technobliteratoroh
01:07.42Technobliteratorof course
01:07.47Technobliteratorbut it wouldn't really be handled by Loron
01:07.55MonetTrafficking can apply to more than than people.
01:07.56DrodoEmpireThey could charge for passage
01:07.58Technobliteratorit'd just be handled by people who can get away with it because no police exist there
01:08.02DrodoEmpireTure
01:08.04DrodoEmpire*True
01:08.04Monetmore than people*
01:08.07Technobliteratoryeah, they could charge for that
01:08.49DrodoEmpireGranted, *both* of those things probably would get past Drodo customs given they follow broad guidelines and have official-looking papers <.<
01:09.32DrodoEmpire(The Drodo Empire has *extremely* lax drug laws and hardly even bothers legislating anything to do with weapons- the fact that the feds have no monopoly on force is a feature of Imperial society)
01:09.40TechnobliteratorURO has no drug laws
01:09.45DrodoEmpireYeah
01:09.47Technobliteratorthey just tax them
01:09.50DrodoEmpire^
01:10.00MonetI wonder who does in the 1st gig.
01:10.26TechnobliteratorI imagine it might not be the same in the rest of Borealis
01:10.27MonetAlthough technically regulatory legislation could count as 'drug laws' but that's being pedantic.
01:10.31DrodoEmpireSame with the Drodo- "if it'll kill the user, don't sell it" is basically their policy
01:10.50DrodoEmpireYeah, small stuff like that exists for the Drodo but again its fairly lax
01:11.06TechnobliteratorURO don't even have that
01:11.12DrodoEmpireProstitution's also 100% legal in the Empire, given lax attitudes towards sex common in Drodo cultures
01:11.19Technobliteratorthey just say, "if you took drugs despite all the warnings, then it's your fault if you die"
01:11.22DrodoEmpireOr rather, lax attitudes towards prostitution
01:11.32DrodoEmpireWelcome to Ancapistan
01:11.33DrodoEmpire<.<
01:11.34DrodoEmpire>.>
01:11.37MonetTechnobliterator: So it's a "you OD it's your fault" kind of deal.
01:11.41Technobliteratoryeah
01:11.51Technobliteratoralso, on prostitution, needless to say that's legal
01:11.52MonetReminds me of one bit from Buriel At Sea
01:12.11Technobliteratorbut to the extent that URO can just use nanomachines to take care of STDs
01:12.16DrodoEmpireDrodo - damnit how're we supposed to make money off of other countries' prudishness now
01:12.41MonetThis family guy buys a microwave gun for his catering business. His son gets his hands on it and tries it out on everything.
01:13.02DrodoEmpireYeah by the time of the 29th century STDs could probably be cured easily
01:13.11MonetHowever when the boy tries it out on the family poodle, it's the *husband* who gets in big trouble.
01:13.22DrodoEmpirehur
01:13.34DrodoEmpireI imagine the Drodo made that a priority, same with contraception availability from a *very* early time
01:14.08DrodoEmpireBut enough about alien sex <.<
01:14.23MonetThe only drug I can think of that's explicitly restricted is Dirrik'taka - the Ki'dirrik are very particular over who they trade it to. It's very important to them culturally but it's also popular among psionics enthusiasts.
01:14.33DrodoEmpireHuh
01:14.35DrodoEmpireWhat's up with it?
01:15.04DrodoEmpireYeah, I guess Imperial ottzello would be a big place for capitalist ventures
01:15.30DrodoEmpireInvestment, and lots of opportunities to pull people out of poverty with good-paying mining jobs
01:15.40DrodoEmpireSpace-Alberta <.<
01:15.44MonetThe restriction is mainly cultural. They use it to develop an individual's connection to the hive, and the joined are given it to becoem connected to the hive.
01:15.50DrodoEmpireAhh
01:16.04DrodoEmpireSo its not something you'd snort at a party >.<
01:16.24MonetWell for one it has the consistency of runny honey XD
01:16.51DrodoEmpireDrodo - *coughs* AGH WHAT
01:16.57Technobliteratorthe thing is though, that old Ottzello was not a place for any capitalist ventures at all
01:17.00Technobliteratornew one is
01:17.06DrodoEmpire^
01:17.15MonetThough now that you mention it I imagine underground psionic cults ritually consume dirrik'taka in shots.
01:17.56Technobliteratorthey just despised trading with people because they want to be strictly self sufficient
01:17.57DrodoEmpireHuh
01:18.03DrodoEmpireRight
01:18.03Technobliteratoreven though doing that is not easy
01:18.26DrodoEmpireYeah its *possible* but difficult, and ends with a lower quality of life
01:18.44DrodoEmpireThe URO seems to be doing the exact opposite extreme
01:18.48TechnobliteratorYup
01:19.01Technobliteratoralso it's not like UNO gave a fuck about quality of life
01:19.02Technobliterator:P
01:19.07DrodoEmpireTrue >.<
01:19.24Technobliteratorthey got away with it because they did good things
01:19.51MonetOh wait there is some dangers of overdosing on dirrik'taka
01:21.10Monet"SIde effects may include jitters, nausea, headaches, blurred vision, tinnitus, dehydration, loss/ovrstinulation of motor skills, involuntary psychokinetics, hallucenations, brain haemorrhages and strokes"
01:22.22DrodoEmpireDrodo - bad trip fam
01:23.21TechnobliteratorI need to sleep
01:23.44MonetOh yeah and thanks to Pax Draconica the Ki'dirrik can legally kill you on sight if caught stealing the stuff in their territory.
01:25.33MonetExecution for the illicit possession of dirrik'taka is legal in the Ki'dirrik Collective.
01:32.04Monetgoodnight
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01:39.55Quark8Hello.
01:56.05DrodoEmpireHi
02:08.22DrodoEmpireYou know, with this new live tour with Madeon and Porter Robinson I might have to listen to more of Robinson's stuff
02:08.42DrodoEmpireListening to some recordings of the live sets-- its... really cool how they blend
02:42.25Quark8test
02:43.34DrodoEmpireHey
02:43.50Quark8Hi.
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02:44.10DrodoEmpireHi
02:44.18Cuttlefishhello
02:44.22Quark8Hey Cuttlefish.
02:45.13CuttlefishHello Quark. I don't think we've met before.
02:46.32DrodoEmpireHey- has anybody else read "1632"? I've asked before but I dunno if I asked you guys in particular
02:46.44Quark8I believe that you're right, Cuttlefish.
02:46.57Quark8No. You've mentioned it but I've yet to read it.
02:47.03DrodoEmpireAhh
02:47.19Cuttlefishis that a book?
02:47.52DrodoEmpireYeah
02:47.56DrodoEmpireAn entire series, actually
02:48.01DrodoEmpireBut the first one's named 1632
02:48.03Cuttlefishyeah i just googled it
02:48.32DrodoEmpireIts a speculative/science fiction series- I began reading it like a month ago and I'm already on the third book on the reading order
02:48.47Cuttlefishinteresting premise there
02:49.09DrodoEmpireYeah XD Its a really strange premise but *damnit* its good
02:49.56DrodoEmpireIts quite optimistic, which some people hate but I like, as I'm really damn sick of every book I read trying too hard to be "dark" or what they think is "adult"
02:50.16Cuttlefishyeah that's why i hate the song of ice and fire
02:50.18DrodoEmpire"mature", however they want to phrase their overdone, cynical hack prose :p
02:50.25Cuttlefishedgy does not mean real
02:50.28DrodoEmpire^
02:51.00Cuttlefishalso too much darkness can make the audience feel like "this character is just gonna die anyway who cares"
02:51.10Cuttlefishand that's not very engaging
02:51.25DrodoEmpireGranted, it *is* a violent book and pretty graphic at times by its very nature, but not overly depressing about it
02:51.50DrodoEmpire(I would give an example, but tbh its one of the best moments in the book >.<)
02:52.22CuttlefishYeah. I should read more alternate history. Maybe I'll read that once I'm done procrastinating with the massive amount of books I got as a gift a few months ago.
02:52.44CuttlefishI'm like "no don't spend money" "you need to finish what you have first"
02:52.56DrodoEmpireThe first book's free online from the publisher, actually
02:53.03Cuttlefishoh cool
02:53.08DrodoEmpireAnd you can pick up decent-quality copies for literally one cent from Amazon
02:53.21DrodoEmpire(Factoring in a few dollars from shipping ofc)
02:53.48Cuttlefishyeah my mom loves amazon she has prime and once bought the entire discworld series
02:53.56DrodoEmpireOh wow
02:54.00Cuttlefishour house has a bunch ton of books
02:54.05DrodoEmpire(That's a series I need to read >.<)
02:54.12Cuttlefishit's hilarious
02:54.49Cuttlefishi started reading the colour of magic and it is funny enough to make me laugh audibly
02:54.52DrodoEmpireThe book also says a lot about western and enlightenment/American values that the US was originally built on, and how the Americans return to those values-- and how sharply they contrast with the top-down quasi-feudalism and arbitrary robber baronies that plagued Thirty Years' War era Germany
02:55.05DrodoEmpireOh wow
02:55.21DrodoEmpire1632 didn't make me laugh, but it made me grin, a *lot*
02:55.42DrodoEmpireJust by how *cool* everything is, and the feeling of progress
02:55.50DrodoEmpireSets up the series really well
02:55.55CuttlefishRule of cool
02:56.09Cuttlefishthat's my fave thing about the writing on this very site
02:56.15Cuttlefishjust how darn cool things can be
02:56.17DrodoEmpire^
02:56.38DrodoEmpiretbh I wouldn't even say 1632 has that much Rule of Cool, the things that happen are all fairly feasible
02:57.17DrodoEmpireGranted, the main characters, while not flawless, are all *extremely capable* people, but that's part of the genre and you don't find yourself minding much
02:57.22CuttlefishMaybe. As much as I am totally in love with time travel fiction, I find the very suggestion laughably impossible.
02:57.42DrodoEmpireMm well, its implied not to be "time travel
02:58.01DrodoEmpireIf you're 8seriously* going to dismiss a book based on one thing to do with its premise
02:58.03DrodoEmpire:p
02:58.17Cuttlefishi'm not dismissing it
02:58.23DrodoEmpireMore moving it to an alternate reality *and* back in time, sorta
02:58.33DrodoEmpireIts not really an important part of the series- not yet anyway
02:59.01DrodoEmpireIts seen as a strange act of fate by the Americans and an act of God by the 17th century Europeans
03:00.15DrodoEmpire(Plus I dunno if anyone there really has the ability to discover what happened, anyway >.< It was, after all, a West Virginian coal town that was teleported- not a university stacked with the world
03:00.15CuttlefishI don't know allot about that time period.
03:00.25DrodoEmpire*world's greatest theoretical physicists
03:00.29DrodoEmpireAh
03:00.45DrodoEmpireI never considered that side of it, as I *love* history and that time period especially
03:01.04DrodoEmpireI'd consider it "infotainment" when it comes to history- it explains things pretty well and its all surprisingly authentic
03:01.18DrodoEmpireSo I don't think you'd be missing context too bad
03:01.18CuttlefishI have knowledge of allot of time periods but it's like spaced with allot of gaps
03:01.24DrodoEmpireRight.
03:01.40DrodoEmpireWhat're some periods of interest, for you?
03:01.42DrodoEmpireJust curious.
03:01.57CuttlefishGood question let me think for a second
03:02.01DrodoEmpirekk
03:04.22CuttlefishGosh I dunno. This is hard. The Ottomans are pretty fun.
03:04.39CuttlefishAnd maybe the Napoleonic Era
03:04.50DrodoEmpireAhh
03:04.55DrodoEmpireYeah I do like the napoleonic era
03:05.12DrodoEmpireFascinating point in history in general, but especially military history
03:05.40DrodoEmpireFrance was revolutionary when it came to doctrine at that era
03:06.13DrodoEmpireUse of the massed battery, the infantry column, as opposed to the line, and so on
03:06.38CuttlefishOh yeah I know allot about the french revolution too. That was fun to learn about.
03:06.43DrodoEmpireYeah
03:07.07DrodoEmpireBut I figure it was more Napoleon who revolutionised the French military, and made it even moreso a beast
03:07.30DrodoEmpireNot only was he brilliant, his changes and reforms were controversial but certainly effective
03:08.05DrodoEmpire(I think the merits of the column are still debated today, long after its become obsolete)
03:08.36CuttlefishWell the parts of the french revoltion i find interesting are like the reign of terror and maxamillion robespierre's anti religion thing where they changed the calender and the street names. stuff like that
03:08.54DrodoEmpireSome people think that a horizontal line that's relatively thin's better, others thing the increased maneuverability and density of fire coming from a narrow column that can wheel around, turn face, and fire is better
03:09.02Cuttlefishand the public perception of marie antionette cause the people were all "man she's austrian that sucks"
03:09.07DrodoEmpireYeah
03:09.24DrodoEmpireFrance is what I'd describe as "fanatically secular" ever since the Revolution
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03:09.32DrodoEmpireVery principled lot, I gotta say
03:09.55CuttlefishWell the enlightenment happened at around the same time
03:10.15DrodoEmpireWell, the enlightenment was brewing since the 17th century
03:10.29DrodoEmpireBut it reached its peak during the American and French revolutions yeah
03:10.57CuttlefishLots of era's have that one city where all the interesting stuff happens
03:11.04DrodoEmpireEhh
03:11.05CuttlefishParis fits the bill allot of the time
03:11.13DrodoEmpireYeah, a few big cities for every era
03:11.45DrodoEmpireConstantinople, London, Paris, Beijing, Nanjing, Baghdad, Timbuktu, etc.
03:12.02DrodoEmpireAkkad, Ur, Sumer, Cairo...
03:12.05DrodoEmpireSo on and so on
03:12.19Charles_BotNew York
03:12.22CuttlefishVenice was huge
03:12.26DrodoEmpireAs of recently, yes, New York
03:12.27Cuttlefishand Milan
03:12.31Charles_BotAmsterdam
03:12.31DrodoEmpireIndeed, Venice and Milan
03:12.57CuttlefishI like the italian city states.
03:13.03DrodoEmpireYeah they're a cool read
03:13.25CuttlefishI learned recently that the byzantines once offered Enrico Dendolo the eastern roman crown
03:13.32DrodoEmpireOh?
03:13.34Cuttlefishhe turned it down i think
03:13.37DrodoEmpireAh
03:13.39Cuttlefishalso he was blind
03:13.57DrodoEmpireI mean, the biggest city in NS is Halifax-- and you know what *it* is famous for?
03:14.08DrodoEmpire(Hint: its not very flattering.)
03:14.13CuttlefishNS?
03:14.17DrodoEmpireNova Scotia
03:14.37CuttlefishOh. I know nothing interesting about that place
03:14.47DrodoEmpire(Unsurprising <.<)
03:14.54DrodoEmpireBut I'll let you in on why its well-known
03:15.19DrodoEmpireFor being almost completely levelled by the largest non-nuclear explosion in human history.
03:15.22DrodoEmpireYaaay.
03:15.39CuttlefishThough to be honest I don't know allot about canada before pierre trudeu
03:16.57DrodoEmpireThough, to be fair, one interesting tradition came of the tragedy
03:18.05DrodoEmpireThe city of Boston assisted in disaster relief extensively after the accident, and in return the city of Halifax has, for what is now nearly the past 100 years, sent a massive Christmas tree from the province to Boston for its city's tree
03:18.23Cuttlefishcool
03:18.43DrodoEmpireWell, the practice was revived in 1971, my bad, but its got a long history
03:18.56CuttlefishI can't think of anything interesting about the place I live
03:19.10DrodoEmpireEhh you just gotta search, you'd be surprised
03:19.32CuttlefishI think one of captain cook's ships sunk here
03:19.39DrodoEmpireOh?
03:19.50Cuttlefishand a u boat. i didn't even know germany got this far
03:20.01DrodoEmpireYeah, subs were pretty nasty
03:21.00CuttlefishI'm looking at wikipedia right now. It says that in the 19th century we had mass hysteria about vampires
03:21.03Cuttlefishwierd
03:21.37DrodoEmpireHuh
03:22.09CuttlefishI lot of people got tuberculosis and people thought it was being caused by vampires
03:22.27DrodoEmpireAhh
03:22.35DrodoEmpireWhen in the 19th century did this happen?
03:23.04DrodoEmpire(I figure the earlier half-- I'd be surprised if people blamed vampires in, say, 1899)
03:23.27Cuttlefishlate 1810s
03:23.47DrodoEmpireThat makes sense
03:25.25CuttlefishYou know given the proven existence of demons in the fictionverse I'm surprised that nothing like witch trails has happened. Or maybe it has. I think the Inquisition of Dracon might count
03:25.55DrodoEmpireThey probably have happened, perhaps on rural worlds
03:26.01DrodoEmpireOr pre-industrial ones
03:26.22CuttlefishWell post industrial america had the red scare
03:26.34DrodoEmpireThat was over an ideological threat
03:26.38DrodoEmpireNot a supernatural one
03:27.06DrodoEmpireFor example-- the Draconis did indeed visit and observe the Drodo before they became spacefaring and more developed
03:27.53DrodoEmpireSo its likely *some* myths or legends originate from Draconis sightings, and indeed IC many Drodo analysts agree that some especially bizarre sightings and journal entries indeed described extraterrestrial visitors
03:28.27DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AThe_Living_Ancients for reference
03:28.47DrodoEmpire"Eventful Patrol" is an example of such a bizarre sighting
03:30.38CuttlefishOh yeah I remember that. Props to monet.
03:30.43DrodoEmpireYeah
03:30.52DrodoEmpireGranted, as for the supernatural
03:31.10CuttlefishStill I do have a little higher standards when it comes to aliens interacting with historical earth
03:31.19DrodoEmpireWhat do you mean?
03:31.35DrodoEmpireWhen it comes to a lot of it and the Drodo, I like to keep it ambiguous as to whether some aspects of say, their pagan traditions and the like are indeed supernatural or not
03:31.41CuttlefishFar too often it ends up insulting like with stargate and stuff
03:31.50DrodoEmpireHow is stargate "insulting"?
03:31.55CuttlefishLike the idea that aliens caused human civilization
03:31.59DrodoEmpireAh.
03:32.06Cuttlefishit's insulting to think that humans couldn't have done it ourselves
03:32.10DrodoEmpireRight.
03:32.26Cuttlefishand i think it's a pitfall far too common in fiction involving ancient astronauts
03:32.31DrodoEmpireCan be
03:33.17DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AImperial_Blade_(Jirhi'kaz) - This Drodo sword is the sort of ambiguousness I'm talking about
03:33.21CuttlefishAs much as I hate the obnoxious "earth is the center of the universe" trope. the "humans are puny" trope is equally bad
03:33.26DrodoEmpireIt is
03:33.56DrodoEmpireI've given thought to adding more stories on to it, but basically there're a lot of legends surrounding the sword that nobody's been willing or authorised to test
03:34.32CuttlefishLike in hitchkikers huide to the galaxy the line about "human interactions based around worthless green paper" thing was so stupid. like seriously do aliens not have currency
03:34.39CuttlefishThe link to the sword page didn't work
03:34.43DrodoEmpireIts also a joke
03:34.45DrodoEmpire:p
03:34.50DrodoEmpireThe aliens *do* have currency.
03:34.57DrodoEmpireAdd another bracket
03:35.03Cuttlefishnevermind i fixed it
03:35.14DrodoEmpireBy adding another bracket? :p
03:35.36Cuttlefishyeah :|
03:36.40DrodoEmpireAnyway- no- HGTTG's humour relies on that sorta absurdism, naturally it was a joke
03:37.06Cuttlefishok. maybe it's just a kind of humor i don't get. that does happen allot
03:37.09DrodoEmpireEspecially considering the galaxy did have multiple forms of currency- including at least one where its coinage was several hundred km long on either side
03:37.20DrodoEmpireIts classic British absurdism
03:37.24DrodoEmpireNot for everybody
03:38.03Cuttlefishyeah it took my a while to figure out that the badly designed wizard money in harry potter was rowling poking fun at the imperial system
03:38.26DrodoEmpireSatirical, yeah
03:39.31CuttlefishI looked at the bottom of the drodo page and there's no infobox
03:39.46Cuttlefishdude i wanna read the stuff
03:39.51Cuttlefishwhere do i find it
03:40.04DrodoEmpireOne of them drop-down boxes you mean?
03:40.10DrodoEmpireDon't got one, not yet
03:40.41DrodoEmpireI should have one, and I'll look in to it but I've been kept busy
03:42.10CuttlefishI think there is allot of busy. The wiki's activity is less than I remember.
03:42.52DrodoEmpireEh, summer's over so a lot of people are back to school, or back full-time
03:42.55DrodoEmpireNo biggie
03:42.57CuttlefishI mean it used to be impossible to see an entire day's edits without scrolling down at least a little bit.
03:43.05CuttlefishBut yeah no big deal
03:43.14DrodoEmpireI assure you, it gets like that all the time still XD
03:43.36Cuttlefishstill fun talking with you peoples even if i'm having trouble getting back into creativity
03:43.44DrodoEmpireYeah, and that's fine
03:43.51DrodoEmpireAny news on your fiction idea?
03:44.07DrodoEmpire(Also- anything you want to know regarding the Drodo? I can direct you to a page)
03:44.29CuttlefishWell I got an idea but it's not science fiction. I had a vision this morning about a murder mystery where a ghost tries to solve their own murder.
03:44.40DrodoEmpireOh cool
03:44.51DrodoEmpireThat'd actually be an... interesting idea for like a novel or short story
03:44.54DrodoEmpireHold on to that
03:44.56CuttlefishYeah any big stories including the drodo? What are you most proud of?
03:45.01DrodoEmpireHmm
03:45.02DrodoEmpiretough
03:45.16DrodoEmpireThey do have involvement in a lot, and I got a lot of big plans
03:45.22DrodoEmpireBut... Hm
03:45.28CuttlefishOr maybe like a good fiction to introduce me to the fiction
03:45.40DrodoEmpireWell, I'm working on Hard Contact with Tech, which is fun but as way of introduction not good
03:45.41CuttlefishLike the andromeda war does with the draconis and stuff
03:46.03DrodoEmpireSee I'm in a bad way with that, as I never did many character RPs and I'm only just doing that
03:46.09DrodoEmpireSo I have no solid intro fiction in that way
03:46.12DrodoEmpireWhen I should
03:46.49DrodoEmpireI got a *really* strong intro fic for the Chalag, however, in the works
03:47.08DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AChalag_Khanate
03:47.31CuttlefishI do think I came back at a good time for fiction. I saw this thing ghelae and wormy are doing where a dalek gets entropic energy
03:47.40DrodoEmpireYeah
03:47.46DrodoEmpireWhich I have organised and ready to begin writing
03:48.01DrodoEmpireHell, I might see if I can kick off the prologue with tech Sunday
03:48.38DrodoEmpireWhich I'ma try to make just... *it*, the prologue alone, indicative of the Chalag's attitudes and power
03:48.40Cuttlefishwuts tech sunday
03:48.49DrodoEmpireTechnobliterator, on sunday
03:48.58Cuttlefishoh
03:49.18DrodoEmpireAs for a good intro fic for the Drodo... Hell, why not make it your intro fic, too? XD
03:49.27DrodoEmpireI'd really like to collab if you want to
03:49.35DrodoEmpireWhen you got a good strong fiction idea
03:50.29CuttlefishI'd like that too, but while I'm FINALLY free of the stressful schedule, I got art block
03:50.54DrodoEmpireAhh, kk
03:51.09CuttlefishThe first time I no longer have a busy job that takes up time, I lose my brain
03:51.20CuttlefishEf you universe
03:51.24DrodoEmpireYeah >.<
03:51.56CuttlefishNot all bad though the extra time just let me catch up on cartoons
03:52.01Quark8Night.
03:52.17Cuttlefishlater stranger
03:53.01DrodoEmpireAhh XD
03:53.09DrodoEmpireBut yeah, lemme know when you can
03:53.43DrodoEmpirehttp://i.imgur.com/xgHBIpX.png <.<
03:54.37Cuttlefishpfff
03:55.31CuttlefishI've seen that before on tumblr, but it's still funny. I feel bad though one of my friends is color blind.
03:55.43DrodoEmpireBah
03:56.03DrodoEmpireIts alright to laugh. XD
03:56.11DrodoEmpireEspecially in front of him, and leave him confused >.>
03:57.00CuttlefishYeah. The mention of cartoons and color blindness reminds me of that joke in adventure time where like finn spends the episode hunting down this ruby
03:57.11Cuttlefishand at the end it turns out to be an emerald cause he's color blind
03:57.40DrodoEmpireAhh
03:57.54CuttlefishI heard it's ending in 2017
03:58.09Cuttlefishand pen ward and fredernator studios are making a movie
03:58.25DrodoEmpireHuh
03:59.10CuttlefishFredernator Studios, an animation thingy is making an adventure time movie to complete the series cause it's gonna end next year
04:00.10DrodoEmpireYeah
04:00.14DrodoEmpireHow long has it run for?
04:00.31Cuttlefishi think since late 2009 early 2010
04:00.42Cuttlefishso season 7 is the last
04:00.45Cuttlefishnot too bad
04:00.46DrodoEmpireAhh
04:00.53Cuttlefishthat's how long buffy lasted
04:01.08DrodoEmpireRight
04:01.30CuttlefishDo you watch many tv shows?
04:02.01DrodoEmpireEh, used to
04:02.04DrodoEmpireNot many anymore
04:02.10DrodoEmpireMore of a youtube guy really
04:02.20DrodoEmpire(Which is strange that that's a thing, now)
04:02.42DrodoEmpireBut, yeah, its mostly reading, youtube, and music that fills my spare time
04:02.46DrodoEmpireThat and games
04:02.49CuttlefishYeah. I just use netflix/tv shows uploaded to sites in europe where american companies can't take them down
04:03.14CuttlefishWhich is wrong
04:03.22DrodoEmpireMeh
04:03.23DrodoEmpire<.<
04:03.29Cuttlefishbut like i don't wanna spend money to buy every episode
04:03.56DrodoEmpireEhh, netflix isn't that expensive
04:04.02DrodoEmpireMost can spare eight bucks a month
04:04.22CuttlefishWell we do pay for netflix but netflix doesn't have everything
04:04.30DrodoEmpireAhh, fair fair
04:04.47DrodoEmpire(Oh, speaking of music-- I
04:05.04DrodoEmpire*I'm super excited about Madeon and Porter Robinson going on tour https://twitter.com/madeon/status/781226654504845313 )
04:05.21CuttlefishAlso I sometimes pirate music from youtube audio
04:05.32CuttlefishI'm a filthy criminal
04:05.32DrodoEmpireSame
04:05.34DrodoEmpireshhhh
04:05.52DrodoEmpire>.>
04:06.13CuttlefishYeah I dunno who madeon and porter robinson are
04:06.25DrodoEmpireAhh
04:06.36Cuttlefishgenre?
04:06.37DrodoEmpireI listen more to madeon, but they're both good
04:06.40DrodoEmpireHmm
04:06.49DrodoEmpireTough question, Madeon himself often dodges the question XD
04:07.06DrodoEmpireVariably house, "synthpop", that area of electronic
04:07.11Cuttlefishhipster
04:07.16DrodoEmpireNah :p
04:07.36DrodoEmpireNot terribly experimental, so not hipster, just really good electronic
04:07.44Cuttlefishthat was a comment on him refusing to answer the question not your music tastes
04:07.51DrodoEmpireAh
04:08.08DrodoEmpireNot sure on that but yeah
04:08.16DrodoEmpireMore that electronic in general's hard to organise in to genres
04:08.20CuttlefishOh he's french
04:08.23DrodoEmpireAs you have literal dozens of subgenres
04:08.24DrodoEmpireYeah
04:08.38CuttlefishGuess that's why I've never heard of them
04:08.43DrodoEmpirePerhaps yeah
04:09.14DrodoEmpireHe's *exploded* recently, started under the Madeon name when he was like 16 and it all went from there
04:09.41CuttlefishI don't understand concerts
04:09.47Cuttlefishtoo loud too expensive
04:09.47DrodoEmpireHow come?
04:09.50DrodoEmpireMeh
04:10.11Cuttlefishand also i really have no interest in like meeting celeberties
04:10.23DrodoEmpireI'd love to go to one soon, I hear the feeling of a concert can be hard to describe, its just *awesome&
04:10.30DrodoEmpireSo I'd like to see for myself
04:11.22CuttlefishI mean I guess I do understand concerts. I just don't find them worth it.
04:11.27CuttlefishPersonally
04:11.30DrodoEmpireMeh, that's alright
04:13.46CuttlefishI'm not very good at talking about music. I like too many artists to answer a question like "what do you listen too"
04:14.03DrodoEmpireA
04:14.04DrodoEmpire*Ah
04:14.05CuttlefishSo I'm reluctant to ask you and put you through the same mental hurdle
04:14.10DrodoEmpireIts alright
04:14.11DrodoEmpireXD
04:16.00DrodoEmpireOh
04:16.26DrodoEmpireAbout your fiction- and I believe I asked this before- have you got any biological stuff worked out? Ideological/cultural beliefs?
04:17.08CuttlefishI'm thinking of a monarchy that is transitioning into a military junta
04:17.21Cuttlefishmy last fiction was a bunch of space hippies
04:17.28Cuttlefishso i think this is a good change
04:17.29DrodoEmpireHuh
04:18.15DrodoEmpireMeh, to be fair the interaction between traditionalist Drodo with strict ideas of class and respect and space hippies *would* be funny
04:18.19CuttlefishThe shellious were a bunch of underwater shaman turtles. So I want my next fiction to be conquer crazy
04:18.23DrodoEmpireAh.
04:19.48Cuttlefishmaybe i can answer the music question if i just open the tunes library and just find the artist with the most plays
04:20.01DrodoEmpirehur
04:20.46CuttlefishI keep track of how many times i've listened to a song so i can be like "no you've listened to this like 3 times in the past 3 hours do something else"
04:21.00DrodoEmpireRight
04:21.21CuttlefishOh
04:21.38Cuttlefishit seems my most played audio file is a recording of pengu saying "noot noot"
04:21.52DrodoEmpirehur
04:22.03Cuttlefishit makes me laugh when i hear that on shuffle
04:22.12Cuttlefishand it's too short to skip
04:23.13DrodoEmpireYeah
04:25.22CuttlefishI'm such a hyporcrite judging people for music tastes. I just rapper Nicki Manaj and orchestra composer Glenn Miller right next to eachother
04:25.44DrodoEmpireMeh
04:26.25DrodoEmpireI don't like the whole debate with music in general- not because I dislike some music, or believe some music is just *bad*-- its just not an argument worth having
04:26.33DrodoEmpireAnd not a good value judgement on someone, either >.<
04:28.29CuttlefishI don't think I have any electrical sound effect music stuff. Like whatever it is that genre is.
04:29.08CuttlefishI don't even know what synth means. Is it short for synthetic cause like it doesn't use real insturments?
04:29.12DrodoEmpireElectronic, and really the genre's so broad and bleeds so much in to other genres that "electronic" is meaningless
04:29.27DrodoEmpireSynths are simulated instruments, yes
04:29.52DrodoEmpireComputer-generated sounds in general, often have little resemblance to any sound a "real" instrument makes
04:31.12DrodoEmpirehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEABPD4wNCg - this track (among my favourites) for example has a fairly distinct bass synth, among many others
04:31.54DrodoEmpire(There're better examples like trap tracks, but this one's a bit more upbeat and poppy and family friendly <.<)
04:32.01DrodoEmpire(And, again, one of my favourites)
04:33.07CuttlefishOh yeah I think I have some songs like this
04:33.41DrodoEmpireYeah sometimes the difference between a song that's considered electronic and one that's considered pop is who is credited as the artist :p
04:33.48DrodoEmpireThat's what I've learnt
04:34.09DrodoEmpireGranted, The City is obviously more focused on the instrumental
04:34.22CuttlefishSo is this dude your fave artist then?
04:34.29DrodoEmpireProbably
04:34.32DrodoEmpireOne of for sure
04:36.05DrodoEmpireReally I just wanna see an extended cut of that Sad Machine/You're On live mix from the twitter video <.<
04:36.13CuttlefishI don't have many artists that I follow. Like I only really bother to subscribe to the vevo channels of like 1 or 2 people
04:36.14DrodoEmpireThat shit's incredible
04:36.26DrodoEmpireYeah I'm more've a song guy too but I make exceptions
04:37.31CuttlefishI mean the artist with the most songs would probably be Maria and the Diamonds but even for her I don't like everything.
04:37.58DrodoEmpireAh
04:38.12CuttlefishAnd I think I'm subscrubed to the fueled by ramen channel
04:38.21Cuttlefishbut that's just cause it has multiple artists
04:38.45DrodoEmpireRight, right
04:39.07CuttlefishParamore is one of the few things that is universally appreciated within my main social circle
04:39.27DrodoEmpireOh?
04:40.13Cuttlefishand panic at the disco i guess, but i don't enjoy them as much as other people seem too
04:41.03DrodoEmpireNever listened in to them\
04:41.45CuttlefishI really like that new band Joe Jonas started DNCE.
04:42.17Cuttlefishbut they're like new so I don't know for sure if I will like the future stuff too
04:42.26DrodoEmpireAh
04:42.49DrodoEmpireSorta the same concern I had with madeon back about a year or so ago, when he released his full-length album Adventure
04:43.06DrodoEmpireI think everyone knew it was either gonna make or break him- and hoooooly shit it *made* him
04:43.22CuttlefishVery rare is the instance where i have more than one song from the same album
04:43.27DrodoEmpireSame
04:43.42DrodoEmpireBut I can listen to Adventure in order for a very long time- its an experience
04:43.52DrodoEmpireIt was different from his earlier stuff, distinctly so, but in an objectively good way
04:44.05CuttlefishOh yeah and I only know two albums where I know which order they go in
04:44.10DrodoEmpireIt demonstrated a more refined style, definitely
04:44.16DrodoEmpireAh
04:44.19CuttlefishThough I suppose it's easier since those ones like tell a story or something
04:44.28DrodoEmpireYeah, same with Adventure
04:44.41DrodoEmpireIt tells a... I suppose metaphorical story, through music and tone
04:45.12DrodoEmpireStarts in a very upbeat, idyllic place and ends in a very brooding, almost solemn place
04:45.47CuttlefishWell I only notice the obvious ones. Like the black parade back in 2006 is not at all subtle about it's topic.
04:45.54DrodoEmpireRight
04:46.57Cuttlefishnot sure what family jewels is about. I THINK it's about a depressed rich girl contemplating suicide but i'm not sure
04:47.07CuttlefishI haven't like looked it up
04:47.26CuttlefishI should probably do that at some point
04:47.51CuttlefishI had breathe in mt imogen heap in my library for a whole year before I realised that it was about weed
04:48.15CuttlefishI thought it was just a happy love song but nope it was about cannabis
04:48.23CuttlefishAnd I didn't even notice
04:49.05CuttlefishAnd when I look back on it should be obvious
04:50.40DrodoEmpireAh
04:50.48DrodoEmpireMeh, song about weed isn't too bad
04:51.48CuttlefishYeah the reason I don't have allot of mainstream music is cause I feel bad when I listen to a song with swears in it
04:52.18CuttlefishI'm very un adult for my age
04:53.10DrodoEmpireHuh.
04:53.24DrodoEmpireI either don't mind or revel in how offensive or racy it is <.<
04:59.30CuttlefishAlso I listen to music like 20 songs at a time once a week instead of spread out and stuff
05:00.32CuttlefishMusic is like a mood. Most of the time you i'm not really feeling it.
05:00.54DrodoEmpireAh
05:02.39Cuttlefishi think the first synth song thing is ghost by mystery skulls. i only found that cause the music video was an animated parody of scooby doo and i looked at it like "holy shoop this is pretty darn well animated sir"
05:02.59Cuttlefishthe first song to come to mind that i have
05:04.19Cuttlefishi think the whole animated bands thing is kinda cool. I don't listen to gorillaz but I will admit the concept is really fun
05:04.53DrodoEmpireYeah, sorta cool
05:07.21Cuttlefishis it 2am in halifax?
05:07.47DrodoEmpireI'm not in Halifax, but yeah
05:07.51DrodoEmpireI do need to go soon >.<
05:07.59Cuttlefishgo to bed
05:40.25The_Randomnessoh woops
05:40.29The_RandomnessForgot I had this open
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10:46.26XhoWell I woke up a while ago
10:46.30XhoStill figuring it out
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12:05.54Xhohttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/8b/Longinus2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20161001120528 Remade Longinus with his original set of armour
12:06.42OluapPlayerI see
12:18.28MonetI like the segmentation.
12:18.39MonetWait does he have his abs exposed?
12:21.55XhoYep
12:23.37NeonPandahow else is anyone gonna know he has sick abs?
12:23.44XhoLonginus - this guy
12:24.24XhoI don't think anyone would bring up the fallacy of exposing the torso to a guy who has a divine superweapon
12:25.06OluapPlayerArrow to the lung, ded
12:25.34XhoLonginus - i used to be a divine warrior like you                   then i took an arrow to the lung
12:26.59MonetYeah Longinius doesnt' strike me as the kind of warrior who'd be bothered by stabbed abs
12:27.17OluapPlayerHe should considering what he fights hur
12:27.38XhoThe only permanent scar Longinus has is a burn and a wound over the right side of his face
12:27.43XhoAnd yeah caused by Void Denziens
12:28.07OluapPlayerSpeaking of which
12:28.13OluapPlayerget Eschaton moving goddangit
12:28.18Xhono hachi or imperios :v
12:28.22OluapPlayerget Eschaton moving goddangit
12:28.25Xhono hachi or imperios :v
12:28.32OluapPlayerfok
12:28.34Xhono hachi or imperios :v
12:28.47XhoBut I should do yes
12:28.57OluapPlayerI do need to talk to Imp
12:29.04OluapPlayerMostly because I have to tell him something
12:29.28NeonPandathat you truly, deeply love him?
12:29.30Xho"you suck" - OluapPlayer, 2016
12:29.59OluapPlayerthat love isn't meant to be when i'm already committed to xho tho
12:30.30XhoWell it's more like an elderly couple who can't stand each other but have no option but to live with each other because our pensions are better off combined
12:31.02XhoSo yeah commitment and a half
12:31.15OluapPlayerThat's fucking depressing hur
12:31.40NeonPandawell if you expected sunshine and rainbows from Xho you might want to reevaluate things
12:31.48OluapPlayerPoint taken
12:31.51Xhoayyy
12:32.24OluapPlayerMonet: I could tell you though. I gave in and am downloading the trial version of WoW
12:32.49Xhooh fok
12:32.53Xhou ded nigga u ded
12:33.29MonetJoin ussss
12:34.00MonetNeonPanda: Some guy in Rapture uses Australia Day as a keycode -> the code put January first.
12:34.07OluapPlayerI can join you up to level 20, more than that requires too much financial investment
12:34.19MonetI think I have a low-level Dwarf paladin
12:34.38OluapPlayerI did intend to play a dwarf
12:34.51Xhodorf
12:34.58OluapPlayerBEER
12:35.05XhoI've seen my friend play WoW
12:35.08XhoWay too much shit going on
12:35.30OluapPlayerHe was probably in a raid with 30+ other people in it
12:36.00OluapPlayerStill I feel like I'm a dirty hypocrite since I was badmouthing WoW just a few days ago
12:36.11OluapPlayerI can only imagine how Imp is gonna react
12:36.29MonetIf you like it we can forgive you.
12:36.53OluapPlayerYou can't convince me to like everything hur
12:36.55NeonPandaMonet: well it IS an american game
12:37.19XhoIf I were to join WoW I'd make a character called Jeeroy Lenkins because I'm imaginative as fuck
12:37.56NeonPandaI'd try to figure out which permutation of Legolas hasn't been used yet just for the entertainment value
12:38.21OluapPlayerThat joke is so old I can't even think of an analogy
12:38.59OluapPlayerMonet: How much content do I get by being capped at level 20?
12:41.31MonetNeonPanda: American yeah, but Rapture's supposed to be an international city
12:42.39NeonPandaperhaps, but do you really expect a primarily american audience to realise that Australians use the day>month>year format for hte sake of one code?
12:42.42MonetOluapPlayer: Two full zones, the capital city, I think players can get mounts at level 20.
12:43.10OluapPlayerWhat do you mean by two full zones?
12:43.28OluapPlayerI'm going in essentially blind
12:44.14MonetWell, you can do stuff in the lowest two zones. Basically every zone has a ten-level band.
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12:44.34HachimanHAI-I YAI FORCES
12:44.43MonetYou -can- walk about a level 50 zone, but the local wildlife is going to use your femurs for toothpicks.
12:44.45OluapPlayerrabbit
12:44.55MonetHi
12:45.03OluapPlayerThat's expected
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12:45.15HachimanYou should spend all your time in Goldshire and get to know the RP community
12:45.31OluapPlayerBut like, do I get a good amount of stuff to do or am I gonna run out of quests quickly?
12:45.39MonetThere was this thing in vanilla called the welcome bear - there was a 30-level difference between Tirisfal glades and Western PLaguelands.
12:46.50MonetOluap: There's plenty to do. And the 1-20 zones of every race is open to you.
12:47.01Wormy_hi
12:47.05OluapPlayerRight that's my main concern
12:47.31MonetSo if you run out of stuff to do in Loch Modan you can explore Westfall or Bloodmyst isle
12:47.31OluapPlayerAnd regarding that subject, I hear there's a certain gnoll who's supposed to be a pain to low level characters?
12:47.46MonetAh yes...Hogger.
12:47.52OluapPlayerYeah that one
12:48.47HachimanLegion should've brought Hogger back as a corrupted gnoll warlord or something
12:48.55HachimanI know of his reputation hur
12:49.11MonetThey gave him his own blood-stained mound in Cataclysm.
12:49.23OluapPlayerIs there a story progression or am I gonna start at the latest event already?
12:49.50MonetThere's story progression
12:50.03OluapPlayerOkay cool
12:50.40Monethttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/e/ec/Hoggerhill.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110308235058 dare to enter.
12:51.00OluapPlayerbony
12:51.08OluapPlayerOnly important question I got left is, how grind-heavy is the game?
12:52.03MonetIt used to be worse. Now I'd say the primary storylines for each zone don't require you to run off and level for a bit before continuing
12:52.40OluapPlayerThat's cool
12:52.57OluapPlayerI don't mind some grinding as long as it's not Monster Hunter-tier grinding. One game like that is enough
12:53.25MonetAh crap I just realised; you're probably going to be on the American servers.
12:53.48OluapPlayerAre the servers region-locked?
12:54.52dino82_@monet: Oh WoW!
12:54.55Monethttps://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/3vl9lg/can_you_change_battlenet_accounts_to_different/
12:55.11dino82_you play as well?
12:55.17MonetUsed to
12:55.31dino82_naice
12:56.35OluapPlayerSo I'll have to make the character in the EU server to play with you and Imp
12:56.41MonetYeah.
12:57.10OluapPlayerBit dumb but alright I guess
12:57.20OluapPlayerI'll have to deal with higher latency
12:59.14MonetI think Imp said yesterday was his last day of WoW until a later time.
12:59.41MonetArgent Dawn is a great server for RP. There's usually something going on in Stormwind's pubs.
12:59.59OluapPlayerI'll be focused on questing at first
13:00.22OluapPlayerI'd probably not rp with strangers anyway
13:01.51dino82_I like the current legion
13:01.52dino82_neat stories
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13:03.06Monetdino82_: Do you play?
13:03.14dino82_@monet: Yeah! Have Paladin of 110
13:03.20dino82_Long live the Silver Hand :D
13:03.29OluapPlayerDino definitely plays Warcraft. He made creatures based on Pit Lords once
13:03.39dino82_stepped in around Cataclysm or so
13:03.45MonetAnd blood elves
13:03.52MonetI was curious if you still do.
13:04.28MonetOluapPlayer: Actually yeah I remember it can be unnerving to walk up to someone. Most people on Argent Dawn stay i ncharacter if they're nto running around doing quests.
13:05.02dino82_Yeah Love the Blood Elves and NightBorn, awesome species :D though prefer LoTR or Tolkien world a bit more due to that being a bit more darker. Long live Sauron and so haha.
13:05.14dino82_Yeah I like legion, currenlty working on improving relations in Suramar
13:05.22dino82_but I admit, just like on the wiki I sometimes have no clue what I am doing :D
13:05.38OluapPlayerOh wow
13:05.43dino82_sometimes need youtube or a guide hint to actually explain some vague quests and so or to find a solution haha
13:05.58HachimanI love how chill you are Dino
13:06.18dino82_@Hachi: Whahaha :P
13:10.06NeonPandaevery time an MMO conversation comes up I remember the Secret World MMO, that was an experience
13:10.25MonetNeonPanda: Indeed
13:11.10MonetOluapPlayer: The questing system is a lot better designed post-cataclysm.
13:11.27OluapPlayerHow so?
13:16.21MonetWell you don't really get problematic quests like The Hunt for Mankrik's Wife anymore.
13:16.40MonetYou can use your map to see where you need to go.
13:16.57OluapPlayerI don't know how it worked before
13:18.42OluapPlayerRight I'm gonna go and try it out now
13:30.35OluapPlayerIt doesn't seem like I can change from the american to the european server
13:30.43OluapPlayerI can only change between US and Oceania
13:33.45MonetOdd.
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13:34.01MonetI can change between America, Europe, Asia and China
13:35.42Monethttp://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/9938793810 this might help
13:39.38MonetActually about grinding I recall levelling up is musch faster.
13:40.08MonetUsed to be it would take a week to go from lvl 10 to lvl 20, now it can be done in a weekend or less.
14:05.33XhoHachiman: https://soundcloud.com/turkeychickensandwich/meshuggah-style-riffage Got bored, went Meshuggah
14:10.24OluapPlayerMonet: These trolls are surprisingly chill with me just strolling into their camp and watching them plan
14:11.14MonetMAybe they mean no harm?
14:12.17OluapPlayerOne dwarf asked me to kill a couple of them, and they say they're dealing with an elemental to take over the valley
14:12.32OluapPlayerBut they sure don't mind the dwarf going up to their faces to check on what they're saying
14:13.09Monet"ahh dese dwarves be too stupid, mon"
14:15.12OluapPlayerIn fact everything in this place only attacks me if I attack them first
14:15.20OluapPlayerI was the true villain all along
14:15.31Xhojuj
14:15.42MonetDan-dun-DAAAAAAAAAAAN
14:17.09XhoI thought that was in reference to my track for a sec
14:17.15XhoAccurate either way
14:22.42MonetOluapPlayer: Did the kink help with your server problem?
14:23.13OluapPlayerI'm playing atm so I'll try later
14:26.17MonetMorerandom: I think it says a lot when a city goes from a motto like "No gods or kings, only man" to citizens timidly singing "Jesus loves me, this I know, for the Bible tells me so."
14:28.36MonetThough I don't know whose more deluded, those guys, or Ryan boasting that the city will be restored after the player is killed.
14:29.42HachimanWhat's this?
14:29.47MonetRapture.
14:29.54MonetBioShock
14:30.33MonetRapture...I'd say it's three bolds from an engineer going "*sniff* nah sorry it's gone mate."
14:30.49MonetIf it's not there already ofc
14:31.48NeonPandaOluapPlayer: a while ago they set all the mobs in the starting zones to neutral rather than aggressive, iirc (I know this only because a friend was making a joke about it)
14:32.03OluapPlayerThat'd explain it
14:32.18MonetMakes sense
14:33.05dino82_:d
14:33.07MonetYou're fresh in the game and mobs are so numerous that all of even a certain type might overwhelm you
14:33.46NeonPandaI believe it was intended to speed progression, but I can't remember if that was conjecture on my part or if I had a source
14:34.32MonetWell it does mean once you've killed all you need you can just walk out the area.
14:36.17OluapPlayerStill amusing to see trolls walk past nonchalantly as you're murdering their leader and women
14:37.07MonetOluapPlayer: Some good news regarding what you can do, you can run some of the lowest-level dungeons.
14:38.24Monetthe looking-for-group system means you can do these with the wonderful happy world of pick-up groups XD
14:38.42OluapPlayeroh dear
14:39.10OluapPlayerI'm good walking around by myself for now
14:39.28MonetThis is more lvl 15-20 stuff.
14:40.55Monetanyway bbl.
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14:53.11TreebeardHello
14:53.43Wormy_brb
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14:56.49Wormy_hi
15:08.56dino82_hi
15:10.57Xhohttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/20/Longinus.png/revision/latest?cb=20140427161728            http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/8b/Longinus2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20161001120528           2 1/2 years apart kek
15:15.18dino82_Neat!
15:16.09dino82_intro adn prologue of a new story: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tertius_Bellum/Crossing_Line
15:43.58Xhohm wat do
15:44.50Technobliteratorstoof
15:45.05TechnobliteratorWell, there's always a Borealis War section
15:45.38XhoAh yes the one we keep missing each other on
15:45.40Xhotitanpad nao
15:49.49XhoTechnobliterator: ^
15:55.02XhoTechnobliterator: ^
15:55.42Technobliteratorhi
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15:59.37Hachiman"You know your ghost show is legit when you're using the Xbox Kinect to find a ghost. Fucking thing doesn't even work with humans."
16:00.37Xhofukn rabit
16:00.53XhoHachiman: https://soundcloud.com/turkeychickensandwich/meshuggah-style-riffage I posted this earlier and you died
16:03.05HachimanI'll check it in a bit
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16:04.30OluapPlayerMonet: I got a wolpertinger pet
16:04.38ImperiosOluapPlayer: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/d7/Acolyte_Kalorun.png/revision/latest?cb=20160927225324 Oooh new Chosen
16:04.45Imperioshttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/4/40/Acolyte_Finkaron.png/revision/latest?cb=20160927224335 I especially like this one
16:04.50ImperiosHe has a hat
16:04.53OluapPlayerdur
16:04.55ImperiosA big hat
16:04.57ImperiosI approve
16:05.05XhoEveryone's here for Eschaton blah
16:05.12OluapPlayerImperios: I gave him. I'm currently playing the trial version of WoW
16:05.27OluapPlayerYou're free to call me a dirty hypocrite
16:05.34ImperiosAnd before you ask why I did not notice earlier, I was playing nothing but WoW last two days
16:05.37ImperiosOluapPlayer: Nah it's okay
16:05.50XhoOh ffs Titanpad
16:05.52ImperiosTrials won't show that much though
16:06.02XhoFUCKING CUNTING FUCKING BITCH-ASS PUNK-ASS MOTHERFUCKER
16:06.20ImperiosActually
16:06.23ImperiosPlay a panda
16:06.26MonetI tried mentioning dungeons.
16:06.31OluapPlayerI can't and won't pay for it since that requires money I don't have
16:06.31ImperiosPanda levelling experience is sweet
16:06.36OluapPlayerAnd I'm playing a dwarf
16:06.39ImperiosDorf
16:06.45HachimanI'm kind of in the middle of something so I might not be available right at this moment
16:06.55OluapPlayerThere was something called a Brewfest
16:06.58Imperios*in the middle of fapping
16:07.03OluapPlayerA bunch of people drinking booze
16:07.12ImperiosYeah that happens every October
16:07.19ImperiosI kind of wanted to do achievements for it
16:07.19XhoTechnobliterator: pad's up again
16:07.21HachimanOKTOBERFEST
16:07.25OluapPlayerThen some evil dwarves suddenly came out of the ground
16:07.27Technobliteratormhm
16:07.31ImperiosWell yes that's Octoberfest
16:07.33ImperiosOktober even
16:07.34OluapPlayerPeople started throwing cups at them
16:07.39Technobliteratori'm going to refresh
16:07.41OluapPlayerIt was silly as fuck
16:08.00ImperiosFor the best experience, play as monk
16:08.01XhoI'M GOING TO SHOVE A WHISK UP TITANPAD'S BABY HOLE IF IT KEEPS DISCONNECTING
16:08.11ImperiosBrewmaster monks are the best
16:08.19ImperiosYou get to throw booze at people, then breathe fire at them and watch as they burn
16:08.34MonetOLuapPlayer: Yeah WoW celebrates every holiday.
16:08.40Technobliteratordc'd for me too
16:08.40Technobliterator: |
16:08.41OluapPlayerBut like I mentioned just as you joined, one quest gave me a wolpertinger pet
16:08.42ImperiosThen at level 100 you get explosive booze
16:08.48OluapPlayerIt's a jackalope with wings
16:09.48MonetA real wolpertinger iirc is best described as a frankenstein's monster. In real life they're something taxidermists like to stich together out of random animal parts.
16:10.12Monethttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Wolpertinger_(2014,_Z%C3%BCrich).jpg aint it cute :3
16:10.18OluapPlayerAlso if this is an yearly event, it explains the level 110 players running around
16:10.37Xhoone hit kill scrubs
16:10.39OluapPlayerMonet: ech
16:10.49XhoWow Titanpad is beyond dead
16:10.57XhoNever seen it so bad
16:11.03MonetOluapPlayer: YEah it's eyarly
16:11.07OluapPlayerThe one in the game is a jackalope with wings
16:11.12OluapPlayerAnd it is cute
16:11.31ImperiosOluapPlayer: Hmmmm
16:11.40ImperiosAfter the Dark Iron dwarf attack, was there a cog with a quest?
16:11.41Technobliteratorseems to be back up?
16:11.53MonetYeah the more typical construction is a bunny with wings, fangs and maybe duck-feet.
16:11.56OluapPlayerNope, they just came and left
16:12.29Technobliteratoramazing.
16:12.38TechnobliteratorIt's really bad today, for some reason
16:12.39XhoFuck it I'm not doing it with Titanpad like this
16:12.43Technobliteratoryeah
16:12.50OluapPlayerI'm level 7 atm
16:12.54TechnobliteratorBest to wait and try another day, but at least we got a good star
16:12.55Technobliteratort
16:13.01Monethttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UFDAZBTVOcI/VVNB1pNfoWI/AAAAAAAAAvY/s1re9MeZ6vM/w506-h397/wolpert-WM.jpg here's one with a squirrel body.
16:14.06ImperiosOluapPlayer: As for the starting experience: if you are going to have another character, try undead
16:14.16ImperiosThey have one of the best starting experiences in the game
16:14.28OluapPlayerHow so?
16:14.52MonetImperios: Introduce him to Sylvanas lol.
16:14.59ImperiosIt is very intense basically
16:15.10ImperiosAnd focuses on the undead/worgen war
16:15.43ImperiosIn the Alliance I think the best 10-20 zone is either Darkshore or Westfall, so feel free to visit any of these two
16:16.51XhoOluapPlayer: You think I should remake Acolyte Dood pre-ded mode
16:17.34OluapPlayerYes
16:17.49Xho"Acolyte of Might"
16:17.53Xhoacolyte of myte
16:17.58ImperiosAcolute of Moth
16:18.10OluapPlayerImperios: I don't think I'll have much choice soon hur
16:18.40ImperiosOluapPlayer: Well, after doing the starting zone, you do have choice
16:18.59ImperiosTHere are like 4 zones to choose which are relatively easy to access
16:20.15MonetWestfall and Darkshore are easy to get to, there's the tram between Stormwind and Ironforge and then you can take a boat to Darkshore form Stormwind.
16:20.52ImperiosYeah
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16:23.31TreebeardHello
16:23.33MonetStormwind is probably the most well-connected city in Azeroth: You've got the tram, boats to Kalimndor, boats to Northrend, portals to the Cataclysm areas and a portal to WoD Draenor.
16:24.09DrodoEmpireHi everyone
16:24.09DrodoEmpireHi
16:28.50ImperiosTHe most well-connected cities I think are the temples in Pandaria
16:29.55MonetMaybe
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16:31.18TreebeardHello
16:31.56Charles_MurrayHey
16:31.59MonetHello
16:33.15DrodoEmpireHi
16:34.22Charles_MurrayHet
16:35.09Tek0516Hey
16:39.33ImperiosOluapPlayer: Oh, and as a troll, you get to fight the Sea Witch from WC3's tutorial
16:39.48OluapPlayerI heard she was in the game
16:41.32OluapPlayerWow, Ironforge looks cool
16:43.09XhoOluapPlayer: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/83/Nai-Ar%27natlDC2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20161001164226 Acolyte Dood, Starring Acolyte Dood
16:43.16MonetI rememebr they shwoed it in the Warcraft movie.
16:45.20OluapPlayerbug
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16:55.09DrodoEmpireHi
16:56.52Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#Minos.27Drakon_Devastated_By_Terrorist_Attack boom
16:57.22Xho"Disciples of the Sun-King"                  inb4 fantasyverse crossover
16:59.42MonetThe garrison had to contend with a violent branch of YMCA dancers.
17:01.00DrodoEmpireOh wow
17:01.56MonetHold on let me make a link or two
17:01.56DrodoEmpireI'll be sure to leave a message from the Drodo Empire- I figure they'd offer humanitarian aid, or assistance in rebuilding
17:01.59DrodoEmpirekk
17:04.37MonetRight F5
17:05.02XhoYou edit conflicted me there
17:05.04DrodoEmpireYep
17:05.19XhoOh wait hold on
17:05.23XhoCan't do that
17:05.28XhoLemme re-edit that
17:06.42XhoThere we go
17:08.21MonetA project like this will likely be looking for a lot of foreign investment
17:09.40DrodoEmpire^
17:13.26Charles_MurrayFrance - shut up and take my money
17:14.04MonetMinos'Drakon - Okay!
17:14.13Xhodebtincreases.avi
17:14.32Charles_Murraylol
17:20.23XhoImperios Hachiman: Gimme a quote for Longinus
17:20.33Imperios"Long inus is long"
17:20.36MonetEh, it could all be paid back by the business a new MD attracts.
17:21.21Charles_Murray^ basically the definition of an investment
17:23.57MonetIf only I had the kind of money ot be an investor irl
17:27.28dino82_poor draconid  imperium
17:27.31dino82_another terrorist strike?
17:29.58MonetFraid so
17:30.10MonetThis one's more like a foreign invasion though
17:30.57dino82_auch
17:31.25XhoMonet: Kinda funny because I wanted to talk to you about a potential Dominion attack on their outer turf
17:33.25ImperiosXho: "Ecce servus ordinis! Sacramentum sacrosanctum dico, in praesentia nostri frantrum Solis Invictique, pax eacum! Numquam inoboediam, numquam dubitābō, numquam fugiam. Ita me Aure bene ament."
17:33.30ImperiosThere we go
17:33.41Xhotranslation pls
17:34.13dino82_for the crossing line:  the first shipment arrives from the other side: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:TertiusCrossingLine03.png
17:34.40Imperios"Behold the servant of the Order. I hereby swear the Sacrosanct Oath, in presence of our brothers and the Unconquerable Sun, peace be upon her. Never shall I disobey, never shall I doubt, never shall I flee. So help me Aur."
17:35.21Xhorite
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17:36.14dino82_hi
17:38.53XhoImperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Longinus
17:44.15XhoActually that's inaccurate that date lemme edit that
17:44.48XhoF5 that
17:45.59XhoThat makes the character inaccurate as we
17:46.00Xhowell
17:46.01Xhodammit
17:46.15ImperiosXho: "Child: "Dad, how high is that building?"  Building: "If I'm already built, why am I called a building?"  Dad: "Pretty damn high." "
17:46.18XhoF5 again
17:46.33XhoImperios: kek
17:47.09XhoI guess by the quote that the Imperator was ceremonially in the service of the Order of Sol
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17:51.44The_RandomnessHello
17:52.10DrodoEmpireHi
17:54.48Wormy_http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-technology/all-day-drinking-proved-to-be-impossible-20160929114595
17:55.12Wormy_>Professor Henry BRUbaker
18:01.36The_Randomness:P
18:37.16Wormy_I wonder if we can work out the average rate of time that passes in the SporeWikiverse
18:37.26Wormy_From our own writings
18:37.32Wormy_Obviously, it fluctautes
18:37.49Xho100 moths
18:38.14Wormy_I wonder if we can reach the 30th century in the next couple of years
18:38.49XhoYear 2900 blaze it
18:39.17XhoWe're creeping towards 2820 so
18:39.32XhoSome fictions are further forward than others
18:39.37Wormy_If I reach 2994 I'll host somekind of celebration
18:39.47XhoMy fiction is 2815 or around that date
18:40.10Wormy_Dawnstar Project is my latest fiction interaction, so yeah 2815 too
18:40.22XhoVoidwalker is 2812
18:40.59MonetRebuilding Minos'Drakon might take a decade or two
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19:21.14MonetHi
19:21.45OluapPlayerhi
19:21.52OluapPlayerThat's enough WoW for now
19:22.26MonetSo how'd it fare up?
19:22.53OluapPlayerIt was fun
19:23.20OluapPlayerGot up to level 15 already
19:24.28MonetNice
19:42.24MonetNot sure how long trial accounts last.
19:42.36Xho3
19:42.40Xhoyears
19:42.56OluapPlayerThe trial has no time limit
19:43.02OluapPlayerIt has a level limit
19:43.58Xholevel
19:44.07Xho20
19:44.31XhoSo I'm downloading Movie Studio 13
19:44.39Xho176 kb/sec
19:44.43XhoI'm dying here
19:52.37DrodoEmpireey laymo
20:03.47Wormy_<PROTECTED>
20:07.39DrodoEmpireSounds pretty rude
20:07.43MonetSomething's wrong when the highest-level member of your group is the one dying the most.
20:10.19Wormy_<PROTECTED>
20:12.54MonetIt looks like he missed "was GHelae's version of the Tier scale is"
20:14.33Wormy_he missed the whole post by the looks of it :P
20:24.32Monet<PROTECTED>
20:24.43*** join/#sporewiki Quark8 (49c685a7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.198.133.167)
20:24.43Quark8Hello.
20:25.05DrodoEmpireHi
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20:27.48_____Jesus Christ this internet connection
20:27.51Quark8Hello ____.
20:27.56_____Needs a stabbing
20:27.59_____Hi
20:28.12Guest85471Oh alright I see
20:28.22Hachimanwat
20:28.30______2many registered nicknames
20:28.30Quark8Who are you?
20:28.46______It's pretty easy to guess considering an aggressive entry
20:28.47Quark8*, may I ask?
20:29.07______Well who else wants to stab an internet connection
20:30.07______Painful times to be had by all right now
20:30.19DrodoEmpireWho's this?
20:30.22Quark8Are you Xho?
20:30.30Quark8Or anyone else?
20:30.36OluapPlayerIt's Xho, same IP
20:30.44Xhodoi
20:30.46XhoCourse it's me who else would itbe
20:30.48Xhoit be
20:30.57OluapPlayerRandom strangers
20:31.03Xhofukn
20:31.11Wormy_I was confused for a couple of seconds.
20:31.13XhoWell who else wants to stab the internet
20:32.01OluapPlayerMe hur
20:32.03Wormy_stabs Xho for confusing him
20:32.16Xhofukn northerners
20:32.56XhoCurrently downloading at a marvellous speed of 2380 kb/sec
20:33.01Xho230 even
20:36.04XhoThis is like a 30th of what my normal speed is
20:36.20Xho15th maybe
20:36.45MonetFind whose stealing your data
20:37.01DrodoEmpirebeat the shit out of them
20:37.02DrodoEmpire<.<
20:38.23XhoMy dad
20:39.23DrodoEmpireYou heard me
20:39.24DrodoEmpire>.>
20:39.50MonetSo...can you beat the shit out of him? XD
20:39.59XhoMy dad's built like a brick shit house
20:40.13XhoNo he could probably lift me over his head
20:40.32XhoThat crazy middle aged man strength
20:40.48MonetHe sounds like an inspiration
20:40.50XhoAlthough he's closer to 60 than being middle aged
20:42.24MonetHe could batter my dad then
20:42.25XhoAs for me I can lift my own body weight but it's not hard considering I'm under 70 kg
20:43.01XhoOn a good day I can lift 60 kg or so
20:43.49XhoSome guy at work can lift like 180 kg so I don't bother trying
20:43.59XhoOh hello internet speed went nuts
20:44.07XhoWe're up to 2 mb/sec now
21:01.07Quark8test
21:07.48XhoOluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWsSxewWLxo How To Summarise 2016
21:08.42Quark8Turns out that I have a fever, and it was probably caused by the medicine for my stomach parasite.
21:08.46OluapPlayerwut
21:15.38Imperioshttps://i.redd.it/sjm4t0epixox.png I made something
21:16.01ImperiosNow I want to make a fiction concept around that somethnig
21:16.06ImperiosBut I am not sure what I could do
21:16.13DrodoEmpireHuh
21:20.49MonetRepublic of Harley
21:21.48XhoOluapPlayer: I got a comment from a sub saying "no fuck you" -> replied by linking him a url -> the same video
21:22.05DrodoEmpireayy lmao
21:22.56OluapPlayerbet u think ur clever
21:23.01XhoIt was a general Fuck My Fanbase video
21:23.17XhoMy subs are just all kinds of stupid
21:27.20XhoWow I actually got 2 likes and 1 dislike
21:28.28DrodoEmpiredislike cus gay
21:28.30DrodoEmpire>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>:
21:29.33MonetThe more fans you have the more idiots you have to deal with.
21:37.13*** join/#sporewiki TetrisD (46775cbf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.119.92.191)
21:37.44DrodoEmpireHi
21:37.50Quark8Hey.
21:37.51TetrisDhi
21:37.57Quark8How're you?
21:38.09TetrisDlol at first i was confused because i couldnt find the chatbar
21:38.12TetrisDgood
21:38.28DrodoEmpireThat's good
21:39.28TetrisDwell, i guess i didnt interrupt anything? damn...
21:39.50DrodoEmpireNo, you didn't
21:40.11DrodoEmpireThe chat has some periods of quietness- lots of people on, just not much to talk about
21:43.51TetrisDwell then, time to make something to talk about... eh... but first, can you give me directions to the nearest antimatter shop?
21:44.00DrodoEmpire:p
21:44.46TetrisDwhat happens if i click one of the links on the top?
21:45.15Quark8You go to the website those links link to.
21:45.20DrodoEmpireIt opens a new tab, sending you to the link
21:50.50DrodoEmpireHey, what's your fiction anyway, TetrisD?
21:52.22TetrisDwell, i didnt write it yet...
21:52.41DrodoEmpireRight, right
21:52.51DrodoEmpireWhat's your idea?
21:54.13TetrisDwell, basically, i have a planet called Ceria, which is at the edge of the andromeda galaxy, but dangerously close to a black hole (not because of the gravity, but because of the gamma rays)
21:54.51TetrisDbecause of this, the inhabitants of ceria are extremely resistant to radiation
21:55.30TetrisDbtw, do you want the really long explanation, or should i try my best to shorten it?
21:57.12DrodoEmpireNah, go ahead
21:57.28TetrisDok
21:58.14TetrisDso, around 10 billion years ago (really old, even for a planet!), life evolves
21:59.16TetrisD4 billion years later, sentient life evolves, basically centuar-like beings who are covered in an exoskeleton and have a beak, and they call themselves the Raladin
21:59.39DrodoEmpireAlright.
21:59.49TetrisDas soon as the raladin reaches the civ stage though, they start a nuclear war and extinct themselves
21:59.55DrodoEmpireHm
21:59.57DrodoEmpireOne thing
22:00.10TetrisD?
22:00.30DrodoEmpireI... I can't *stand* the way Spore divides up the evolution of societies >.< "tribal stage" and "civ stage" are worse than meaningless
22:00.44TetrisDlol, me too
22:01.00TetrisDi just said "civ stage" because convience
22:01.06DrodoEmpireTheir civilisation made it to the nuclear age, anyway, and they destroyed themselves at any rate
22:01.09MonetIts going straight from stone tools to cars.
22:01.19DrodoEmpire^
22:01.37TetrisDthough the reason i dont like mentioning the different stages, though, is where do you put the middle ages?
22:01.41DrodoEmpireAlso the way it portrays every group as technologically equal, more or less when we know that was never the case
22:01.46DrodoEmpireWell
22:01.58DrodoEmpireWhere do you put 99% of recorded history more like
22:02.29DrodoEmpireIts the most incredibly brain-damaged abstraction of history I've ever witnessed- and I love Spore
22:02.31DrodoEmpire>.<
22:02.40TetrisDthen again, these days 99% of recorded history happened less than 5 seconds ago
22:02.43OluapPlayerIt's a videogame aimed for young people tho
22:02.52DrodoEmpireI know
22:03.18DrodoEmpireWhich means some of its game concepts don't translate well <.<
22:03.29MonetI blame EA for (and I don't like using this sort of phrasing often) babyfying the concept.
22:03.31OluapPlayerA game where your first sign of sapience involves a film reference and you throwing a stick at your own head
22:03.51TetrisDand banging it on a pile of leaves
22:03.57DrodoEmpireYeah, though we're getting off topic
22:04.01OluapPlayerThat is the reference
22:04.02DrodoEmpireContinue, Tetris?
22:04.08MonetTBF Saints Row 3 begins with a Star Wars crawl to the very same music so *shrug*
22:04.24DrodoEmpireviolently shoves Oluap and Monet in to #sporewiki-offtopic and throws away the ke
22:04.25DrodoEmpire*key
22:04.30DrodoEmpire>.>
22:06.20TetrisDso, basically, the raladin had their own version of Area 51, (dont know what to call it though), and around a couple million years later, when all life dies out, the security FINALLY fails, and the test subjects escape
22:06.40DrodoEmpireThey survived in the installation that long?
22:06.45DrodoEmpireWere they preserved, or...
22:06.49TetrisDthey were frozen
22:06.54TetrisDi guess
22:06.56DrodoEmpireRight
22:07.01TetrisDdidnt really think of that part
22:07.40TetrisDbut i guess you could argue that the nanotechnology in them made them biologically immortal
22:07.54TetrisDbut i dont see how that would work
22:07.58DrodoEmpireNanotechnology, at... what technological level?
22:08.10DrodoEmpireWhen did the Raladin destroy themselves?
22:08.39TetrisDim thinking its when they colonise nearby planets in their solar system
22:08.55TetrisDthe colonies lose contact with the homeworld and die
22:08.59DrodoEmpireRight, so probably a few decades to a century ahead of the IRL modern day
22:09.25TetrisDbut i dont think they would be able to make that kind of nanotech
22:09.30DrodoEmpireNah, they couldn't
22:10.04TetrisDbut they COULD if i use sci-fi logic
22:10.12DrodoEmpireBut what they *could* have is advanced cryogenics ("freezing" stuff to preserve it) and, possibly, an incredibly reliable energy source
22:10.15DrodoEmpireNo need
22:10.30DrodoEmpirePerhaps geothermal energy, I dunno
22:11.13TetrisDi could just talk about how they use dimensional field dampeners to gather the folds in the space-time... you know what? ive never been good at technobabble
22:11.32DrodoEmpireYeah...
22:11.42DrodoEmpireAnd why make something complicated when you can do the same thing much more simply
22:11.47The_Randomness^
22:11.53MonetOccam's razor ftw
22:12.24DrodoEmpireScientists often have big ideas that make engineers go nuts over how stupidly impractical they are >.<
22:12.36DrodoEmpireAs an example
22:12.36MonetYou might need some form of technology to keep the base from breaking down into dust if we're talking two million years.
22:12.41DrodoEmpire^
22:12.50TetrisDthough, when a race becaomes about as advanced as the DCP, or Draconid Imperium, theyd probably quit freezing their people in ice and freeze them in time instead
22:12.59DrodoEmpireWell, no
22:13.06TetrisDbut i dont think the raladin were ever that advanced
22:13.16DrodoEmpireJust because you can doesn't mean you should >.<
22:13.22DrodoEmpireOr its practical to
22:13.36DrodoEmpireAnd cryogenics =/= freezing in the conventional sense, there's a lot to it
22:13.38MonetAnd in this case we're talking practicality, not Jeff Goldblum's moral rant.
22:14.19TetrisDthen again, id much prefer being frozen in time than ice, from my perspective, i leave as soon as i enter, and time doesnt cause frostbite
22:14.27DrodoEmpireEither way, cryogenically preserved specimens break out of an extremely ancient, abandoned facility (or what's left of it) after two-million or so years
22:14.30MonetYou -could- suspend a subject is a stasis field, but why do so when cryogenic processing methods are so much more refined?
22:14.43DrodoEmpireWhat next?
22:15.28TetrisDwell, after the test subjects escape, we fast forward to about 4.5 million years ago
22:15.50DrodoEmpireAlright...
22:15.58TetrisDthe test subjects have evolved into an entire ecosystem
22:16.22DrodoEmpireSo the subjects that were released repopulate the world with complex life?
22:16.42TetrisDi really hope my fiction isn't looking at this, cuz there gonna kill me if they find out im talking about it
22:16.55DrodoEmpire>.<
22:17.34TetrisDaround 4.5 million years ago is an era that is often met with distain, because, had it never happened, my fiction might have need ultraterrestrials by now
22:17.47TetrisDbeen*
22:17.57TetrisDbeen ultraterrestrials
22:18.00DrodoEmpireWell
22:18.04DrodoEmpireHistory's never so linear as that
22:18.06DrodoEmpireBut go on
22:19.20TetrisDat this time, my fiction's ancestors, called the Quasi-Demons (PLEASE come up with a better name for these guys, because i cant) rome the surface of ceria
22:20.09DrodoEmpire(There're a few random name generators- or even use the name of an obscure mythical creature)
22:20.22DrodoEmpire(Maybe something from... Finnish legend, I dunno)
22:20.48DrodoEmpire(They've got a long pagan history, having been on the very edge of European civilisation for most of its history)
22:21.01DrodoEmpire(Should be interesting shit there)
22:21.27TetrisDanyway, the Grox Meta-empire finds what they believe to be an ultraterrestrial artifact on Ceria, so they send in a ship to investigate
22:21.45DrodoEmpireHmm, okay
22:22.02TetrisDusing radar, or something like that, of course, nobody dug it up yet
22:23.09DrodoEmpireSensors yeah
22:23.28TetrisDwell, this quasi-demon pack finds out about this ship, and, having not evolves sapience yet, don't know what to make of it
22:23.40TetrisDso they decide its a threat
22:23.55DrodoEmpireThese are still animals by this point, yes?
22:24.09TetrisDand this is where we learn why the quasi-demons have the work "demon" in their names
22:24.11TetrisDyes
22:24.29DrodoEmpireUh huh
22:25.01TetrisDbut they are very close to sentience, close enough that one could see you firing a gun and understand what the hell your doing
22:25.48TetrisDabyway, they see these exploratory vessals
22:25.52TetrisDdammit
22:26.02TetrisDpushed enter at the wrong time
22:26.56TetrisDthe quasi-demons see these exploratory vessals coming OUT of the hangar, so they decided they could invade the ship by going IN
22:27.28DrodoEmpireWhy would a pack of roving animals do this?
22:27.32DrodoEmpireHow would this be recorded?
22:27.36TetrisDat this point, they had decided the chip couldnt be a living thing and was probably a shelter of some king
22:27.53DrodoEmpireIs this directly relevant to the later history of this nation?
22:28.00TetrisDYES
22:28.18DrodoEmpire(We don't start a textbook on France with the evolution of homo sapiens, after all)
22:28.38TetrisDhad this never happened, the daemonum would have been at least a hundred times more advanced and powerful than they are now
22:28.42DrodoEmpire(In fact, most world history books don't much bother to go back that far)
22:28.51DrodoEmpireWhy?
22:28.58DrodoEmpireWell-- I'll find that out in a moment
22:29.00DrodoEmpireGo on
22:30.21TetrisDwell, being extremely strong (they have to be to survive), and extremely agile (see "extremely strong"), and intelligent enough to use the grox's own fusion blasters against them, the quasi-demons quickly overwhelmed the guards
22:31.19TetrisDthe security is in shock, and it takes them all of five minutes to lock down the sections of the ship that the demons now own
22:31.29TetrisDunfortunately, that includes the power core
22:32.38TetrisDthey send in a conqrix squad to kill these quasi-demons, but they horribly fail (and some demons sneeked through the door while it was still open)
22:32.56TetrisDthey reach the cockpit
22:33.14TetrisDby now, the grox are convinced that they need to glass this planet
22:33.46TetrisDunfortunately, they have one ship, and they only had enough time to fire one antimatter missile before they died
22:34.03TetrisDwell, that antimatter missile is still something
22:34.14DrodoEmpire...Why would they glass an entire planet for a relatively minor security breach on one docked ship? o.O
22:34.44DrodoEmpireThe appropriate reaction would be send in a company of marines to secure the ship, or at most to destroy the compromised ship
22:34.47TetrisDwith no one left to control the ship, it crashed into the ground, right into the missile's impact crater (which is now called the glowing depression)
22:35.14TetrisDlol
22:35.15MonetIt's like laying waste to Europe over the devastation to Australia caused by rabbits.
22:35.21TetrisDthe grox got cocky
22:35.45DrodoEmpireThat's not a reason to glass an entire planet over a single ship getting breached by hostile wildlife
22:35.52TetrisDand the crox very well knew  the WHOLE planet was inhabited by demons
22:36.07DrodoEmpireWhat do you mean, "demons"?
22:36.15MonetThey could have jsut declared the planet a no-go zone.
22:36.16TetrisDthe quasi-demons
22:36.19Wormy_<PROTECTED>
22:36.41Wormy_If I can't get Firebase to work I'll try Github
22:36.41DrodoEmpireWhat makes them demonic?
22:36.50TechnobliteratorThat bit of web development isn't something I've done, sorry
22:36.55TetrisDnothing, they just SEEM demonis
22:36.58Wormy_Alrighty
22:37.13MonetI'm not sure if the Grox believe in demons.
22:37.24DrodoEmpireRight, so hostile wildlife still isn't much of a reason to spend government resources glassing a planet
22:37.28TetrisDthey didnt name these animals
22:37.29Tek0516Wormy_: Good old SO, already getting downvoted
22:37.54TetrisDand they were mad that they got beat up by a bunch of animals
22:38.08Wormy_Huh, downvoted?
22:38.22Tek0516Wormy_: your post is already at -1 score
22:38.26DrodoEmpire...That's still not a reason as to why any sort of high command would authorise the glassing of a planet
22:38.40Wormy_I've noticed that SO is extremely strict
22:38.57TetrisDand also, rumor has it that someone from the future convinced them to do this
22:39.04MonetThis history makes the Grox sound unbelievably insecure.
22:39.06DrodoEmpireThat's really silly
22:39.18Wormy_I've probably broken some subtle guideline
22:39.21DrodoEmpireYou're making stuff up to justify a really silly chain of events
22:39.23DrodoEmpire>.<
22:39.24TetrisDnot at all
22:39.27TetrisDlol
22:39.28Wormy_Or look like a complete n00b not worth the time
22:39.38TetrisDno, someone really did come from the future and do this
22:39.48DrodoEmpireThat was your plan, the whole time?
22:39.49DrodoEmpire:p
22:40.02TetrisDhe was a dude named Maladictus
22:40.10TetrisDand he was evil
22:40.19DrodoEmpireSounds it...
22:40.36TetrisDexpecially since maladictus is literally evil in latin
22:40.47TetrisDi think...
22:41.42DrodoEmpireI figure. But why would some 'evil' guy go back in time (???) and somehow influence a Grox captain or admiral to glass a world?
22:42.04DrodoEmpireThere're more convincing ways to pull this idea off
22:42.13DrodoEmpireA gamma ray burst could damage the world'
22:42.15Quark8It is actually "malus, -a -um"/
22:42.19Quark8*.
22:42.33TetrisDi needed only part of the world to be damaged...
22:42.36Monet"mal" being a Latin prefix to mean 'bad'
22:43.05DrodoEmpire*world's ecosystem, a grox ship could've glassed the world anyway to make way for a development project that never really began for whatever reason (red tape?), so on
22:43.20DrodoEmpireOr any nation could've glassed it
22:45.13TetrisDbut the ultrateresstrial artifact in question was actually maladictus's soul trapped in a cryatal (but, because of the time travel problem, im not quite sure when he gets trapped and when he escapes)
22:46.07TetrisDbut i know he did it to himself on purpous so escape his death in the hands of my fiction in the present
22:46.47DrodoEmpireThis is all terribly convoluted
22:46.48DrodoEmpireBut continue
22:48.12TetrisDthe daemonum in the ship can't get out, so they survive on the military's rations (which keeps cloning itsself thanks to technology), and they fight eachother for control over the ship
22:48.40TetrisDthey evolve great strength because anyone who can't break through a grox door cant find food and dies
22:48.51TetrisDwoops, did i say daemonum?
22:48.51DrodoEmpireHow does food
22:48.57DrodoEmpire*"keep cloning itself"?
22:48.58DrodoEmpireYes
22:49.09DrodoEmpireAnd what, do they get stuck on the ship and evolve there?
22:49.31TetrisD3D printer makes it using genetic material, we actually have that technology today in real life
22:51.05TetrisDlol ive never been good at explaining things, the story in my head is actually better than the one im failing to type
22:52.17TetrisDthe "demons" in the ship evolve into centuar-like beings similar to the raladin, but with insectoid jaws instead of beaks, they are called the Megajaw
22:53.00MonetWait how long are they stuck in this ship?
22:53.08DrodoEmpireWell, err, replicators in that sense still need materials to derive from
22:53.19TetrisDthe megajaw are extremely strong, and are rumored to be able to outrun a bullet (that last part is false, of course, but its a rumor, so OBVIOUSLY the info is trustworthy)
22:53.24DrodoEmpireAnd why would they evolve to be centaurs on a cramped starship of all places?
22:53.51TetrisDthey have to be able to run fast enough to break down a grox door
22:53.56Wormy_Well my post got upvoted back 0, progress of a strange sort :P
22:54.34Quark8But why the centaur-form for that (being half-horse and half-human doesn't necessarily = strong)?
22:54.57TetrisDthey have to be fast AND strong to be able to break through grox armor
22:55.34DrodoEmpireWell
22:55.40DrodoEmpireA centaur-*ish* form could work
22:56.23DrodoEmpireHaving strong legs capable of running fast would work, and having arms or hands capable of manipulating stuff in the complex starship environment would also be useful
22:56.34Quark8True.
22:56.49TetrisDas for why there strong, its because normal muscles use about 1/3 of their fibers to avoid tearing, but megajaw muscles are reinforced with a kevlar-like fiber, but really light, so they can afford to use all their muscle mass without ripping it apart
22:58.53DrodoEmpireHm.
22:59.10MonetThat still raises A question of how centaur-like forms evolve on a starship.
22:59.10TetrisDthe quasi-demons that weren't involved in the fight became weaker, but alot more intelligent
22:59.51Quark8Yes, my glasses are finally read. Guess that I won't be almost half-blind after all.
22:59.56Quark8;)
23:00.14Quark8*ready.
23:00.21TetrisDwell, there has to be enough room for a centuar, after all theres enough room for a marinox, and marinoxs are bigger than megajaw
23:01.16MonetYeah but a more compact body might be more flexible.
23:01.49MonetAlso you mention Marinox. I'm not sure Marinox were part of the Grox forces 4 billion years ago.
23:01.53TetrisDbut the "demons" that weren't involved stayed in their bird-like form (did i mention quasi-demons are bird-like?)
23:02.37DrodoEmpireNot sure the Grox were around 4bil years ago
23:02.38DrodoEmpireBut meh
23:02.48DrodoEmpireWe shouldn't be overly involved in realism, is the thing
23:02.51DrodoEmpireStill
23:02.54TetrisD4 MILLION years, not BILLION
23:02.57DrodoEmpireIt needs to be *possible*
23:03.03DrodoEmpireChill
23:03.08TetrisDlol
23:03.20DrodoEmpireWell, really, chill out
23:03.22DrodoEmpire:p
23:03.24TetrisDi just noticed you thought it was 4 billion years
23:03.44MonetMillion right.
23:03.50MonetStill might be too early for Marinox.
23:04.17TetrisDand yes, the grox were around for 6 billion years (how do i know? i can read, its in the grox empire page)
23:04.59DrodoEmpireDon't be a dickhead
23:05.09Quark8^
23:05.10TetrisDsry
23:05.23Xhosteamrekt
23:05.29TetrisDdidnt think that would be rude
23:05.50DrodoEmpireRight, that's fine if you didn't mean it that way
23:05.52XhoMan I came in late on this conversation
23:05.56DrodoEmpireSorry for that
23:05.59DrodoEmpireAnyway, right.
23:06.06TetrisDim assuming by now i ruined my sporewiki reputation forever?
23:06.11DrodoEmpireNo, no
23:06.13DrodoEmpireYou're good
23:06.19DrodoEmpire:>
23:06.33XhoYou'd have to do a lot to be hated by everyone on the wiki
23:06.38DrodoEmpire(I have major gripes with overly long-lasting states to begin with, mind you, but anyway)
23:07.14TetrisDgood... now i can continue with my SECRET EVIL PLAN... i mean... uh... i dont have a plan! nope, not at ALL
23:07.30Quark8Uh huh :P
23:08.51TetrisDsry if im typing a little slow, i have a kitty in my lap
23:08.59TetrisDon*
23:09.39DrodoEmpireNah, you're good
23:10.26DrodoEmpirebrb
23:10.43TetrisDkk
23:10.50Quark8Bye for now.
23:11.54MonetSO anyway.
23:12.10MonetI'm not sure how this connects with the modern fiction.
23:12.47TetrisDwell, fast forward a couple million years, to about 25,000 years ago
23:13.18TetrisDthe daemonum and megajaw both have technology comparable to near-future technology irl
23:14.01TetrisDthe megajaw, however, cannot survive without the radiation from the glowing crater
23:14.07TetrisDthey want to expand
23:14.29TetrisDso what do they do?
23:14.35TetrisDthey nuke the area around them
23:15.04TetrisDthey expand
23:15.15TetrisDnuke, expand, nuke, expand...
23:15.27TetrisDthe daemonum start to get worried
23:15.53TetrisDif the megajaw keeps doing this, they will destroy the whole world
23:16.00MonetThis is just my personal preferences - not a fan of magic radiation.
23:16.10Monetpersonally not a fan of magic radiation
23:16.32TetrisDits not "magic" radiation, just radiation
23:17.14MonetYou've got a lifeform that'll die without regular exposure to ionising radiation.
23:17.37Xhoghouls m8
23:17.54TetrisDthey use the energy from it for their metabolism
23:18.03TetrisDits like us and oxygen
23:18.20TetrisDwe die without air, which they would laugh at
23:18.40MonetNow we're getting into chemistry.
23:19.11MonetI've memorised the entire metabolic cycle, I know how the oxygen we inhale is used.
23:19.47Monet(now I probably sound like a dickhead but I like plausability)
23:20.25TetrisDinside the grox ship, the ventilation started acting like _______ (insert cuss work here), slowly spewing poison into the air (this is before the megajaw escaped the ship)
23:20.33TetrisDthose who needed to breathe died
23:20.50TetrisDthose who coule live without it, lived without it
23:21.04TetrisDnatural selection
23:21.17MonetWhat if they took in the toxin anyway.
23:22.15MonetSorry that's probably nitpicking.
23:22.22TetrisDthey did, but they didnt actually "take it in", instead, their carpace is made of a special material that attracts these toxins so they may kill anyone stupid enough to bite or eat a megajaw
23:23.02MonetSo the toxin gets absorbed by their shell, but doesn't seep into the bloodstream.
23:23.17TetrisDnot really, no
23:23.33TetrisDbut there are rare cases of this happening
23:24.10TetrisDthese megajaw are basically a subspecies (like our "races") that have the ability to spit this poison at their enemies
23:24.23MonetThough it sounds like if you're going to eat a megajaw you need to pull off the carapace to reach the meat.
23:24.27TetrisDand they, themselves are immune to it (but other megajaw aren't)
23:25.07TetrisDtheir carpace is designed with spikes all over it to tear and shread the skin of anyone who may pull it off
23:25.28TetrisDthen the poison gets in their bloodstream
23:25.31TetrisDthen they die
23:26.01MonetI could tear it off with a crowbar :>
23:26.36TetrisDyeah, but not everyone in an ecosystem is sentient enough to know what a crowbar is
23:26.52MonetOkay fair enough.
23:27.40TetrisDaaand i just realised a reason why using this poison would be unplausible
23:28.26MonetI'd partially question how a non-apex species trapped in a large metal box is able to evolve sentience but this is fiction.
23:28.47Monet(oh wait they got out didn't they)
23:29.06TetrisDyeah
23:29.18Monetnvm then
23:31.31TetrisDwell, 25,000 years ago, the megajaw and daemonum have tech comparible to near-future tech irl, and the megajaw are nuking the crap out of everything so they can expand without dying
23:32.17MonetDo you enjoy Godzilla by any chance?
23:32.30TetrisDnope, didnt watch it
23:32.44MonetNone of the Godzilla films?
23:32.53TetrisDi did watch part of one
23:33.03TetrisDcabt remember which one
23:33.15MonetDid what you see relate to this idea?
23:33.33TetrisDno, dont think so
23:34.07MonetJust curious is all.
23:34.48TetrisDi ddoont thinkgajaw are big enough that they wouldnt be able to support their own weight
23:35.03TetrisDwow
23:35.08TetrisDhorrible typo there
23:35.25MonetI was mostly curious because Godzilla is quite liberal with radiation.
23:35.59TetrisDbut the megajaw are slightly bigger than a human riding on horseback
23:36.17TetrisDfor this reason, ALL of their infantry are considered calvary
23:36.27TetrisDtheir mounts being their own bodies
23:37.04MonetHumans and many other animals do require some sunlight to produce a critical vitamin. The difference between normal sunlight and harmful radiation is harmful radiation breaks down tissue.
23:37.40TetrisDnot when you add sci-fi logic into the mix, no (which i try not to do)
23:38.06MonetCome again?
23:38.36HachimanRemember that one part of science fiction is the 'science' part
23:39.17TetrisDi doubt that star wars with their force is "science" fiction
23:39.38MonetThat's because Star Wars is more accurately space fantasy.
23:39.45TetrisDin fact, george lucas himself said starwars is a "space fantasy"
23:40.34MonetSo if George Lucas called Star Wars space fantasy why are you doubting Star Wars is science fiction?
23:40.49TetrisDbecause logic
23:41.07TetrisDand because i TOTALLY know what im talking about ALL the time
23:41.13TetrisDyeah no
23:41.27MonetIonising radiation (UV rays, x-rays, gamma rays) gets its name from how it is powerful enough to knock electrons out of atoms.
23:42.02TetrisDwelp, lemme go get my gamma ray gun
23:42.04MonetThe resulting ionised particles are chemically unstable.
23:43.27XhoHachiman: Somehow I've got myself into watching One Punch Man
23:43.33TetrisDmethinks you could (theoretically, i guess) put a circut right in the way of the gamma ray burst and it would activate it
23:43.35HachimanNice
23:43.40HachimanOne Punch Man is hype asf
23:43.43XhoIt's actually quite entertaining
23:44.20MonetTetrisD: Actually that is somewhat possible.
23:44.30MonetSomewhat.
23:45.11MonetIf we're talking a GRB from a star then no, whatever shit gets in the way is going to be vapourised.
23:45.42TetrisDthough it wouldnt create a flow of current, yanno why?
23:46.19MonetBecause electricity does not flow that way?
23:46.51TetrisDbecause the word, "current" is used wrong
23:47.07TetrisDthere is no such tning as a magical "stuff" called current
23:47.35TetrisDbatteries do not supply "current" to the circut
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23:47.47TetrisD"current" does not flow through wires
23:47.55TetrisDhi
23:49.00MonetElectricity is created though the shunting of electrons down the wire.
23:49.21TetrisDbut all wires already have electricity
23:49.37Monet"current" is a way of describing what is happening inside the wire.
23:49.42TetrisDall batteries do is act like a pump to get things moving
23:50.59MonetThe "current" of a battery is as much a thing as the "current" of a river. It's not a solid thing, but it's there and it's what provides the movement of energy.
23:51.27MonetIt's more of an active system than a thing.
23:51.35TetrisDanother logic failure i found is me arguing about electricity in a spore IRC channel
23:51.40TetrisDlol
23:52.47TetrisDwelp, im gonna throw some "current" at a megajaw
23:52.57TetrisDoh wait, that probably isnt a good idea
23:53.00MonetA good number of us here are either scientists in training or science enthusiasts.
23:53.37TetrisD:)
23:54.35TetrisDi think the field of science i specialise in is figuring out how technology in fiction could work in real life
23:55.52MonetThat is a very, very broad field if we're using the dictionary term for 'technology'
23:57.07TetrisDOH CRAP, the megajaw i was about to throw my "current" at found abou... AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH R.I.P. TetrisD, died in a failed attempt to avoid becoming someone else's dinner
23:58.31TetrisDwell, fortunately, we have Chronoscopic, so that incident never happend and oh crap... hes still ther-AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
23:58.42Monet"technology" in the proper terminology includes biology, genetics, physics, engineering, materials study, chemistry, and possibly scientific fields we have yet to discover.
23:58.57Monetwell, includes knowledge of.
23:59.34TetrisDid say i specialize in ogysics and engineering
23:59.54TetrisDand especially astrophysics

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