00:22.48 | DrodoEmpire | http://imgur.com/gallery/wq232 |
00:27.24 | Monet | http://imgur.com/gallery/INzFpoO "Stupid Obama! He could have done so much more than issuing a warning and then a veto we all overrode." |
00:28.58 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
00:29.14 | DrodoEmpire | http://imgur.com/gallery/eR1BM - How to kill off all the superstitious people <.<\ |
00:32.43 | Monet | "you can consult the stars, but, like, they're not going to help you when the crab people come" |
00:33.30 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
00:33.54 | Monet | Actually if horoscopes had a grain of truth to it imagine: One week of the year millions of people turn on each other because the stars decreed they would. |
00:34.09 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... |
00:34.29 | DrodoEmpire | Honestly, its pure chance and human bias I think that makes people believe them |
00:34.47 | Monet | It is |
00:35.13 | DrodoEmpire | I mean, enough people read their horoscopes for it to hit the mark *sometimes*, assisted by the fact that people will interpret what happened to them recently to fit the foretelling |
00:35.27 | DrodoEmpire | Or, I dunno, could be real |
00:35.29 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
00:35.58 | DrodoEmpire | I enjoy superstitions, and I'd be lying if I didn't indulge in them a little or value them as part of my culture |
00:36.16 | Monet | They're entertaining and intriguing |
00:36.25 | DrodoEmpire | *if I said I didn't |
00:40.16 | Monet | I've come to like a few conspiracies myself. They're fun fiction. |
00:41.14 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah those too |
00:41.41 | Monet | Also I suppose they're a byproduct of creativity |
00:41.45 | Technobliterator | just browse one of the biggest comedy channels on YouTube |
00:41.47 | Technobliterator | Infowars |
00:41.56 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
00:42.13 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah conspiracy theories are, for the most part, a fun sorta science fiction |
00:42.46 | Technobliterator | honestly, the 50% or so times Infowars is right on things is not enough for me to consider it anything other than just crazy |
00:43.01 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh yeah |
00:43.22 | DrodoEmpire | I mean, I don't watch infowars like *at all* but I don't mind some of the personalities on there |
00:43.35 | DrodoEmpire | Jones is pretty nuts, but he's only one of the people |
00:43.58 | DrodoEmpire | I still prefer Secular Talk when it comes to YT news media though |
00:44.03 | Technobliterator | yup |
00:44.12 | Technobliterator | he's probably the best at it |
00:44.46 | DrodoEmpire | Definitely one of the best of his genre |
00:44.58 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/Dggbs7f |
00:45.15 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
00:45.54 | Technobliterator | he tends to be the most reasonable and does way more research for his videos than some others |
00:46.24 | Technobliterator | problem is, when you do news of any sort, there's a rush to get it out there as soon as possible, so some outlets just jump the gun and released something overly biased or just bad |
00:46.31 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... |
00:46.38 | Technobliterator | coughtytcough |
00:46.43 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
00:46.52 | DrodoEmpire | tbh I think TYT can be pretty crazy yeah |
00:47.07 | DrodoEmpire | They used to be good, I hear |
00:47.09 | DrodoEmpire | Really good |
00:47.14 | DrodoEmpire | But then a lot of their people left |
00:47.26 | DrodoEmpire | Dave Rubin, Kyle, etc. |
00:47.37 | Wormy_ | Everytime I read the horoscope I find it strangely relevant, but then, they are written in such a general manner anyone can find meaning in them |
00:47.49 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
00:47.54 | Technobliterator | They still are good, a lot of hte time. It's just the 30% of the time they come out stupid |
00:47.58 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
00:48.21 | Tek0516 | "If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a cartographer." - John Quincy Adams > So apparently the author and quote is wrong, but as someone who does a lot of fiction maps I love this Civ6 tech quote for cartography. :P |
00:48.22 | Technobliterator | Cenk can either be really enteratining to watch and give a great take on something, or just an asshole |
00:48.31 | DrodoEmpire | Meh, Kyle's only dumb like 5% of the time, and even then its usually like a gaffe or because its put out there quick |
00:48.35 | Technobliterator | Same with Jimmy Dore and to an extent Ana |
00:48.35 | Technobliterator | yeah |
00:48.46 | DrodoEmpire | Not a core flaw |
00:49.05 | DrodoEmpire | Tek: Ahh lol |
00:49.17 | Technobliterator | Kyle just comes off as way more reasonable while still as entertaining |
00:49.49 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
00:50.21 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm |
00:50.32 | DrodoEmpire | I wonder what the Drodoian Ottzello Colonies should be like |
00:51.11 | Technobliterator | hm, well |
00:51.25 | Technobliterator | I presume they would be focused around things like andasium mining |
00:51.30 | DrodoEmpire | I try to give each colonial territory of the Drodo a unique personality or flavour- the Union (Quadrants) are hard-nosed, patriotic working people, while the Grand Duchy (Andromeda) is a haven for culture and traditional aristocracy |
00:51.43 | Technobliterator | also, I kind of want new Ottzello to be more of a business centre of Borealis |
00:51.50 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm, alright |
00:52.10 | DrodoEmpire | So the Ottzelloan colonies might attract a lot of entrepeneurs, tradespeople, and working-class folk |
00:52.15 | Technobliterator | Yup |
00:52.18 | DrodoEmpire | Cool cool |
00:52.31 | DrodoEmpire | Very similar actually to what's happening in like Alberta today |
00:52.38 | Technobliterator | also, again with Ottzello, assimilation there isn't really a thing |
00:52.54 | Technobliterator | so culturally it should be more like normal Drodo territory |
00:53.09 | DrodoEmpire | I'd figure as its sovereign Drodo land |
00:53.12 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
00:53.24 | DrodoEmpire | Nova Scotia- where I live- is being drained of all its young men as they go out west for a few years to the oil fields |
00:53.36 | DrodoEmpire | Or forever, that too |
00:53.37 | DrodoEmpire | >.> |
00:53.52 | Technobliterator | the only exception really is Loron territory, but no one goes there |
00:53.58 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, makes sense |
00:54.01 | Technobliterator | because those are places where murder and theft are legal |
00:54.03 | Technobliterator | among other things |
00:54.05 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
00:54.30 | DrodoEmpire | Just as well, Ottzello could be a big attractor for young Drodo men or poor farmer families |
00:55.21 | DrodoEmpire | Maybe also a good destination for native Ottzelloans who live outside of the URO or other big powers- though maybe the Andromedans would be less gung-ho on that in preference for Imperial settlers |
00:55.57 | DrodoEmpire | and, I mean, there are the Chalag who have like no immigration control at all <.< |
00:56.07 | Technobliterator | it probably would be, since most of Ottzello outside of URO is dangerous |
00:56.15 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
00:56.56 | DrodoEmpire | Both the Chalag and Imperial ottzello would be more stable places- you'd probably earn more and definitely have more opportunities in Drodo Ottzello but I think it'd be hard to get in |
00:56.59 | Technobliterator | I'm trying to think of an example nation in the real world that URO is most like |
00:57.11 | Technobliterator | obviously being a rentier state, they're like Saudi Arabia, but the similarities literally end right there |
00:57.16 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
00:57.25 | Technobliterator | other than that, they're basically the exact opposite of everything Saudi Arabia stands for |
00:57.31 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
00:57.33 | Technobliterator | maybe more like South Korea? Japan? I'm not sure |
00:57.45 | DrodoEmpire | A nordic state? |
00:57.49 | DrodoEmpire | (Large welfare net, etc.) |
00:57.56 | Monet | I was going to say, what about Norway? |
00:58.39 | Technobliterator | Hmm |
00:58.45 | Technobliterator | Yeah, possibly |
00:58.48 | DrodoEmpire | While with the Chalag Khanate you'd earn less and more or less be permanently part of an alien caste (the Drodo Urdesi minority act as a ruling caste, putting themselves over the aliens but otherwise being fair enough rulers), but its easy in |
00:59.27 | DrodoEmpire | (Basically if the Urdesi were the citizens of ancient rome, the aliens were the non-citizens) |
01:01.21 | Technobliterator | I kind of feel like it's a mix of Norway and South Korea |
01:01.29 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh, makes sense |
01:01.51 | Technobliterator | large welfare state, but very industrialised economy |
01:01.54 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
01:02.08 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm, so being a rentier state a lot of Drodo would be working in URO right? |
01:02.16 | Technobliterator | and big on trading |
01:02.17 | Technobliterator | mhm |
01:02.20 | DrodoEmpire | Cool cool |
01:02.26 | Technobliterator | in rented space etc |
01:02.30 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
01:02.39 | DrodoEmpire | Should be pretty interesting, I guess |
01:02.55 | DrodoEmpire | Though, if this space is rented would it also be more or less out of the way of heavily settled areas? |
01:03.26 | Technobliterator | Mostly, since a lot of the mining takes place on planets that were barren to begin with or asteroids |
01:03.33 | DrodoEmpire | I just have the funny mental image of bewildered Drodo from a rural agriworld walking about a big URO city |
01:03.38 | DrodoEmpire | Makes sense |
01:03.42 | Technobliterator | hahaha |
01:03.43 | Technobliterator | yeah |
01:03.55 | DrodoEmpire | Sticking out like a sore thumb, no doubt >.< |
01:04.09 | DrodoEmpire | Alright, cool |
01:04.21 | Technobliterator | lots of Loron territory is probably full of mines since that's the only way their states can fund free pizza |
01:04.39 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
01:05.47 | Monet | Maybe smashing at rocks is the only fun non-crime form of industry they have. |
01:06.08 | DrodoEmpire | Dunno if the Loron are bright enough to handle such a scheme but illicit trafficking might be another big industry in Drodo space- especially given the prevalence of Borderlanders in that area of Borealis who make experienced smugglers |
01:06.17 | DrodoEmpire | *Loron space |
01:06.20 | DrodoEmpire | Not Drodo space |
01:06.20 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
01:07.01 | Technobliterator | well, monet, they do have rap battles as well |
01:07.16 | Technobliterator | illicit trafficking? |
01:07.31 | DrodoEmpire | Contraband, like illegal weapons and drugs |
01:07.41 | Technobliterator | oh |
01:07.42 | Technobliterator | of course |
01:07.47 | Technobliterator | but it wouldn't really be handled by Loron |
01:07.55 | Monet | Trafficking can apply to more than than people. |
01:07.56 | DrodoEmpire | They could charge for passage |
01:07.58 | Technobliterator | it'd just be handled by people who can get away with it because no police exist there |
01:08.02 | DrodoEmpire | Ture |
01:08.04 | DrodoEmpire | *True |
01:08.04 | Monet | more than people* |
01:08.07 | Technobliterator | yeah, they could charge for that |
01:08.49 | DrodoEmpire | Granted, *both* of those things probably would get past Drodo customs given they follow broad guidelines and have official-looking papers <.< |
01:09.32 | DrodoEmpire | (The Drodo Empire has *extremely* lax drug laws and hardly even bothers legislating anything to do with weapons- the fact that the feds have no monopoly on force is a feature of Imperial society) |
01:09.40 | Technobliterator | URO has no drug laws |
01:09.45 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
01:09.47 | Technobliterator | they just tax them |
01:09.50 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
01:10.00 | Monet | I wonder who does in the 1st gig. |
01:10.26 | Technobliterator | I imagine it might not be the same in the rest of Borealis |
01:10.27 | Monet | Although technically regulatory legislation could count as 'drug laws' but that's being pedantic. |
01:10.31 | DrodoEmpire | Same with the Drodo- "if it'll kill the user, don't sell it" is basically their policy |
01:10.50 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, small stuff like that exists for the Drodo but again its fairly lax |
01:11.06 | Technobliterator | URO don't even have that |
01:11.12 | DrodoEmpire | Prostitution's also 100% legal in the Empire, given lax attitudes towards sex common in Drodo cultures |
01:11.19 | Technobliterator | they just say, "if you took drugs despite all the warnings, then it's your fault if you die" |
01:11.22 | DrodoEmpire | Or rather, lax attitudes towards prostitution |
01:11.32 | DrodoEmpire | Welcome to Ancapistan |
01:11.33 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
01:11.34 | DrodoEmpire | >.> |
01:11.37 | Monet | Technobliterator: So it's a "you OD it's your fault" kind of deal. |
01:11.41 | Technobliterator | yeah |
01:11.51 | Technobliterator | also, on prostitution, needless to say that's legal |
01:11.52 | Monet | Reminds me of one bit from Buriel At Sea |
01:12.11 | Technobliterator | but to the extent that URO can just use nanomachines to take care of STDs |
01:12.16 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo - damnit how're we supposed to make money off of other countries' prudishness now |
01:12.41 | Monet | This family guy buys a microwave gun for his catering business. His son gets his hands on it and tries it out on everything. |
01:13.02 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah by the time of the 29th century STDs could probably be cured easily |
01:13.11 | Monet | However when the boy tries it out on the family poodle, it's the *husband* who gets in big trouble. |
01:13.22 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
01:13.34 | DrodoEmpire | I imagine the Drodo made that a priority, same with contraception availability from a *very* early time |
01:14.08 | DrodoEmpire | But enough about alien sex <.< |
01:14.23 | Monet | The only drug I can think of that's explicitly restricted is Dirrik'taka - the Ki'dirrik are very particular over who they trade it to. It's very important to them culturally but it's also popular among psionics enthusiasts. |
01:14.33 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
01:14.35 | DrodoEmpire | What's up with it? |
01:15.04 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, I guess Imperial ottzello would be a big place for capitalist ventures |
01:15.30 | DrodoEmpire | Investment, and lots of opportunities to pull people out of poverty with good-paying mining jobs |
01:15.40 | DrodoEmpire | Space-Alberta <.< |
01:15.44 | Monet | The restriction is mainly cultural. They use it to develop an individual's connection to the hive, and the joined are given it to becoem connected to the hive. |
01:15.50 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
01:16.04 | DrodoEmpire | So its not something you'd snort at a party >.< |
01:16.24 | Monet | Well for one it has the consistency of runny honey XD |
01:16.51 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo - *coughs* AGH WHAT |
01:16.57 | Technobliterator | the thing is though, that old Ottzello was not a place for any capitalist ventures at all |
01:17.00 | Technobliterator | new one is |
01:17.06 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
01:17.15 | Monet | Though now that you mention it I imagine underground psionic cults ritually consume dirrik'taka in shots. |
01:17.56 | Technobliterator | they just despised trading with people because they want to be strictly self sufficient |
01:17.57 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
01:18.03 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
01:18.03 | Technobliterator | even though doing that is not easy |
01:18.26 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah its *possible* but difficult, and ends with a lower quality of life |
01:18.44 | DrodoEmpire | The URO seems to be doing the exact opposite extreme |
01:18.48 | Technobliterator | Yup |
01:19.01 | Technobliterator | also it's not like UNO gave a fuck about quality of life |
01:19.02 | Technobliterator | :P |
01:19.07 | DrodoEmpire | True >.< |
01:19.24 | Technobliterator | they got away with it because they did good things |
01:19.51 | Monet | Oh wait there is some dangers of overdosing on dirrik'taka |
01:21.10 | Monet | "SIde effects may include jitters, nausea, headaches, blurred vision, tinnitus, dehydration, loss/ovrstinulation of motor skills, involuntary psychokinetics, hallucenations, brain haemorrhages and strokes" |
01:22.22 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo - bad trip fam |
01:23.21 | Technobliterator | I need to sleep |
01:23.44 | Monet | Oh yeah and thanks to Pax Draconica the Ki'dirrik can legally kill you on sight if caught stealing the stuff in their territory. |
01:25.33 | Monet | Execution for the illicit possession of dirrik'taka is legal in the Ki'dirrik Collective. |
01:32.04 | Monet | goodnight |
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01:39.55 | Quark8 | Hello. |
01:56.05 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
02:08.22 | DrodoEmpire | You know, with this new live tour with Madeon and Porter Robinson I might have to listen to more of Robinson's stuff |
02:08.42 | DrodoEmpire | Listening to some recordings of the live sets-- its... really cool how they blend |
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02:43.34 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
02:43.50 | Quark8 | Hi. |
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02:44.10 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
02:44.18 | Cuttlefish | hello |
02:44.22 | Quark8 | Hey Cuttlefish. |
02:45.13 | Cuttlefish | Hello Quark. I don't think we've met before. |
02:46.32 | DrodoEmpire | Hey- has anybody else read "1632"? I've asked before but I dunno if I asked you guys in particular |
02:46.44 | Quark8 | I believe that you're right, Cuttlefish. |
02:46.57 | Quark8 | No. You've mentioned it but I've yet to read it. |
02:47.03 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
02:47.19 | Cuttlefish | is that a book? |
02:47.52 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
02:47.56 | DrodoEmpire | An entire series, actually |
02:48.01 | DrodoEmpire | But the first one's named 1632 |
02:48.03 | Cuttlefish | yeah i just googled it |
02:48.32 | DrodoEmpire | Its a speculative/science fiction series- I began reading it like a month ago and I'm already on the third book on the reading order |
02:48.47 | Cuttlefish | interesting premise there |
02:49.09 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah XD Its a really strange premise but *damnit* its good |
02:49.56 | DrodoEmpire | Its quite optimistic, which some people hate but I like, as I'm really damn sick of every book I read trying too hard to be "dark" or what they think is "adult" |
02:50.16 | Cuttlefish | yeah that's why i hate the song of ice and fire |
02:50.18 | DrodoEmpire | "mature", however they want to phrase their overdone, cynical hack prose :p |
02:50.25 | Cuttlefish | edgy does not mean real |
02:50.28 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
02:51.00 | Cuttlefish | also too much darkness can make the audience feel like "this character is just gonna die anyway who cares" |
02:51.10 | Cuttlefish | and that's not very engaging |
02:51.25 | DrodoEmpire | Granted, it *is* a violent book and pretty graphic at times by its very nature, but not overly depressing about it |
02:51.50 | DrodoEmpire | (I would give an example, but tbh its one of the best moments in the book >.<) |
02:52.22 | Cuttlefish | Yeah. I should read more alternate history. Maybe I'll read that once I'm done procrastinating with the massive amount of books I got as a gift a few months ago. |
02:52.44 | Cuttlefish | I'm like "no don't spend money" "you need to finish what you have first" |
02:52.56 | DrodoEmpire | The first book's free online from the publisher, actually |
02:53.03 | Cuttlefish | oh cool |
02:53.08 | DrodoEmpire | And you can pick up decent-quality copies for literally one cent from Amazon |
02:53.21 | DrodoEmpire | (Factoring in a few dollars from shipping ofc) |
02:53.48 | Cuttlefish | yeah my mom loves amazon she has prime and once bought the entire discworld series |
02:53.56 | DrodoEmpire | Oh wow |
02:54.00 | Cuttlefish | our house has a bunch ton of books |
02:54.05 | DrodoEmpire | (That's a series I need to read >.<) |
02:54.12 | Cuttlefish | it's hilarious |
02:54.49 | Cuttlefish | i started reading the colour of magic and it is funny enough to make me laugh audibly |
02:54.52 | DrodoEmpire | The book also says a lot about western and enlightenment/American values that the US was originally built on, and how the Americans return to those values-- and how sharply they contrast with the top-down quasi-feudalism and arbitrary robber baronies that plagued Thirty Years' War era Germany |
02:55.05 | DrodoEmpire | Oh wow |
02:55.21 | DrodoEmpire | 1632 didn't make me laugh, but it made me grin, a *lot* |
02:55.42 | DrodoEmpire | Just by how *cool* everything is, and the feeling of progress |
02:55.50 | DrodoEmpire | Sets up the series really well |
02:55.55 | Cuttlefish | Rule of cool |
02:56.09 | Cuttlefish | that's my fave thing about the writing on this very site |
02:56.15 | Cuttlefish | just how darn cool things can be |
02:56.17 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
02:56.38 | DrodoEmpire | tbh I wouldn't even say 1632 has that much Rule of Cool, the things that happen are all fairly feasible |
02:57.17 | DrodoEmpire | Granted, the main characters, while not flawless, are all *extremely capable* people, but that's part of the genre and you don't find yourself minding much |
02:57.22 | Cuttlefish | Maybe. As much as I am totally in love with time travel fiction, I find the very suggestion laughably impossible. |
02:57.42 | DrodoEmpire | Mm well, its implied not to be "time travel |
02:58.01 | DrodoEmpire | If you're 8seriously* going to dismiss a book based on one thing to do with its premise |
02:58.03 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
02:58.17 | Cuttlefish | i'm not dismissing it |
02:58.23 | DrodoEmpire | More moving it to an alternate reality *and* back in time, sorta |
02:58.33 | DrodoEmpire | Its not really an important part of the series- not yet anyway |
02:59.01 | DrodoEmpire | Its seen as a strange act of fate by the Americans and an act of God by the 17th century Europeans |
03:00.15 | DrodoEmpire | (Plus I dunno if anyone there really has the ability to discover what happened, anyway >.< It was, after all, a West Virginian coal town that was teleported- not a university stacked with the world |
03:00.15 | Cuttlefish | I don't know allot about that time period. |
03:00.25 | DrodoEmpire | *world's greatest theoretical physicists |
03:00.29 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
03:00.45 | DrodoEmpire | I never considered that side of it, as I *love* history and that time period especially |
03:01.04 | DrodoEmpire | I'd consider it "infotainment" when it comes to history- it explains things pretty well and its all surprisingly authentic |
03:01.18 | DrodoEmpire | So I don't think you'd be missing context too bad |
03:01.18 | Cuttlefish | I have knowledge of allot of time periods but it's like spaced with allot of gaps |
03:01.24 | DrodoEmpire | Right. |
03:01.40 | DrodoEmpire | What're some periods of interest, for you? |
03:01.42 | DrodoEmpire | Just curious. |
03:01.57 | Cuttlefish | Good question let me think for a second |
03:02.01 | DrodoEmpire | kk |
03:04.22 | Cuttlefish | Gosh I dunno. This is hard. The Ottomans are pretty fun. |
03:04.39 | Cuttlefish | And maybe the Napoleonic Era |
03:04.50 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
03:04.55 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I do like the napoleonic era |
03:05.12 | DrodoEmpire | Fascinating point in history in general, but especially military history |
03:05.40 | DrodoEmpire | France was revolutionary when it came to doctrine at that era |
03:06.13 | DrodoEmpire | Use of the massed battery, the infantry column, as opposed to the line, and so on |
03:06.38 | Cuttlefish | Oh yeah I know allot about the french revolution too. That was fun to learn about. |
03:06.43 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
03:07.07 | DrodoEmpire | But I figure it was more Napoleon who revolutionised the French military, and made it even moreso a beast |
03:07.30 | DrodoEmpire | Not only was he brilliant, his changes and reforms were controversial but certainly effective |
03:08.05 | DrodoEmpire | (I think the merits of the column are still debated today, long after its become obsolete) |
03:08.36 | Cuttlefish | Well the parts of the french revoltion i find interesting are like the reign of terror and maxamillion robespierre's anti religion thing where they changed the calender and the street names. stuff like that |
03:08.54 | DrodoEmpire | Some people think that a horizontal line that's relatively thin's better, others thing the increased maneuverability and density of fire coming from a narrow column that can wheel around, turn face, and fire is better |
03:09.02 | Cuttlefish | and the public perception of marie antionette cause the people were all "man she's austrian that sucks" |
03:09.07 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
03:09.24 | DrodoEmpire | France is what I'd describe as "fanatically secular" ever since the Revolution |
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03:09.32 | DrodoEmpire | Very principled lot, I gotta say |
03:09.55 | Cuttlefish | Well the enlightenment happened at around the same time |
03:10.15 | DrodoEmpire | Well, the enlightenment was brewing since the 17th century |
03:10.29 | DrodoEmpire | But it reached its peak during the American and French revolutions yeah |
03:10.57 | Cuttlefish | Lots of era's have that one city where all the interesting stuff happens |
03:11.04 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh |
03:11.05 | Cuttlefish | Paris fits the bill allot of the time |
03:11.13 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, a few big cities for every era |
03:11.45 | DrodoEmpire | Constantinople, London, Paris, Beijing, Nanjing, Baghdad, Timbuktu, etc. |
03:12.02 | DrodoEmpire | Akkad, Ur, Sumer, Cairo... |
03:12.05 | DrodoEmpire | So on and so on |
03:12.19 | Charles_Bot | New York |
03:12.22 | Cuttlefish | Venice was huge |
03:12.26 | DrodoEmpire | As of recently, yes, New York |
03:12.27 | Cuttlefish | and Milan |
03:12.31 | Charles_Bot | Amsterdam |
03:12.31 | DrodoEmpire | Indeed, Venice and Milan |
03:12.57 | Cuttlefish | I like the italian city states. |
03:13.03 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah they're a cool read |
03:13.25 | Cuttlefish | I learned recently that the byzantines once offered Enrico Dendolo the eastern roman crown |
03:13.32 | DrodoEmpire | Oh? |
03:13.34 | Cuttlefish | he turned it down i think |
03:13.37 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
03:13.39 | Cuttlefish | also he was blind |
03:13.57 | DrodoEmpire | I mean, the biggest city in NS is Halifax-- and you know what *it* is famous for? |
03:14.08 | DrodoEmpire | (Hint: its not very flattering.) |
03:14.13 | Cuttlefish | NS? |
03:14.17 | DrodoEmpire | Nova Scotia |
03:14.37 | Cuttlefish | Oh. I know nothing interesting about that place |
03:14.47 | DrodoEmpire | (Unsurprising <.<) |
03:14.54 | DrodoEmpire | But I'll let you in on why its well-known |
03:15.19 | DrodoEmpire | For being almost completely levelled by the largest non-nuclear explosion in human history. |
03:15.22 | DrodoEmpire | Yaaay. |
03:15.39 | Cuttlefish | Though to be honest I don't know allot about canada before pierre trudeu |
03:16.57 | DrodoEmpire | Though, to be fair, one interesting tradition came of the tragedy |
03:18.05 | DrodoEmpire | The city of Boston assisted in disaster relief extensively after the accident, and in return the city of Halifax has, for what is now nearly the past 100 years, sent a massive Christmas tree from the province to Boston for its city's tree |
03:18.23 | Cuttlefish | cool |
03:18.43 | DrodoEmpire | Well, the practice was revived in 1971, my bad, but its got a long history |
03:18.56 | Cuttlefish | I can't think of anything interesting about the place I live |
03:19.10 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh you just gotta search, you'd be surprised |
03:19.32 | Cuttlefish | I think one of captain cook's ships sunk here |
03:19.39 | DrodoEmpire | Oh? |
03:19.50 | Cuttlefish | and a u boat. i didn't even know germany got this far |
03:20.01 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, subs were pretty nasty |
03:21.00 | Cuttlefish | I'm looking at wikipedia right now. It says that in the 19th century we had mass hysteria about vampires |
03:21.03 | Cuttlefish | wierd |
03:21.37 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
03:22.09 | Cuttlefish | I lot of people got tuberculosis and people thought it was being caused by vampires |
03:22.27 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
03:22.35 | DrodoEmpire | When in the 19th century did this happen? |
03:23.04 | DrodoEmpire | (I figure the earlier half-- I'd be surprised if people blamed vampires in, say, 1899) |
03:23.27 | Cuttlefish | late 1810s |
03:23.47 | DrodoEmpire | That makes sense |
03:25.25 | Cuttlefish | You know given the proven existence of demons in the fictionverse I'm surprised that nothing like witch trails has happened. Or maybe it has. I think the Inquisition of Dracon might count |
03:25.55 | DrodoEmpire | They probably have happened, perhaps on rural worlds |
03:26.01 | DrodoEmpire | Or pre-industrial ones |
03:26.22 | Cuttlefish | Well post industrial america had the red scare |
03:26.34 | DrodoEmpire | That was over an ideological threat |
03:26.38 | DrodoEmpire | Not a supernatural one |
03:27.06 | DrodoEmpire | For example-- the Draconis did indeed visit and observe the Drodo before they became spacefaring and more developed |
03:27.53 | DrodoEmpire | So its likely *some* myths or legends originate from Draconis sightings, and indeed IC many Drodo analysts agree that some especially bizarre sightings and journal entries indeed described extraterrestrial visitors |
03:28.27 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AThe_Living_Ancients for reference |
03:28.47 | DrodoEmpire | "Eventful Patrol" is an example of such a bizarre sighting |
03:30.38 | Cuttlefish | Oh yeah I remember that. Props to monet. |
03:30.43 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
03:30.52 | DrodoEmpire | Granted, as for the supernatural |
03:31.10 | Cuttlefish | Still I do have a little higher standards when it comes to aliens interacting with historical earth |
03:31.19 | DrodoEmpire | What do you mean? |
03:31.35 | DrodoEmpire | When it comes to a lot of it and the Drodo, I like to keep it ambiguous as to whether some aspects of say, their pagan traditions and the like are indeed supernatural or not |
03:31.41 | Cuttlefish | Far too often it ends up insulting like with stargate and stuff |
03:31.50 | DrodoEmpire | How is stargate "insulting"? |
03:31.55 | Cuttlefish | Like the idea that aliens caused human civilization |
03:31.59 | DrodoEmpire | Ah. |
03:32.06 | Cuttlefish | it's insulting to think that humans couldn't have done it ourselves |
03:32.10 | DrodoEmpire | Right. |
03:32.26 | Cuttlefish | and i think it's a pitfall far too common in fiction involving ancient astronauts |
03:32.31 | DrodoEmpire | Can be |
03:33.17 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AImperial_Blade_(Jirhi'kaz) - This Drodo sword is the sort of ambiguousness I'm talking about |
03:33.21 | Cuttlefish | As much as I hate the obnoxious "earth is the center of the universe" trope. the "humans are puny" trope is equally bad |
03:33.26 | DrodoEmpire | It is |
03:33.56 | DrodoEmpire | I've given thought to adding more stories on to it, but basically there're a lot of legends surrounding the sword that nobody's been willing or authorised to test |
03:34.32 | Cuttlefish | Like in hitchkikers huide to the galaxy the line about "human interactions based around worthless green paper" thing was so stupid. like seriously do aliens not have currency |
03:34.39 | Cuttlefish | The link to the sword page didn't work |
03:34.43 | DrodoEmpire | Its also a joke |
03:34.45 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
03:34.50 | DrodoEmpire | The aliens *do* have currency. |
03:34.57 | DrodoEmpire | Add another bracket |
03:35.03 | Cuttlefish | nevermind i fixed it |
03:35.14 | DrodoEmpire | By adding another bracket? :p |
03:35.36 | Cuttlefish | yeah :| |
03:36.40 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway- no- HGTTG's humour relies on that sorta absurdism, naturally it was a joke |
03:37.06 | Cuttlefish | ok. maybe it's just a kind of humor i don't get. that does happen allot |
03:37.09 | DrodoEmpire | Especially considering the galaxy did have multiple forms of currency- including at least one where its coinage was several hundred km long on either side |
03:37.20 | DrodoEmpire | Its classic British absurdism |
03:37.24 | DrodoEmpire | Not for everybody |
03:38.03 | Cuttlefish | yeah it took my a while to figure out that the badly designed wizard money in harry potter was rowling poking fun at the imperial system |
03:38.26 | DrodoEmpire | Satirical, yeah |
03:39.31 | Cuttlefish | I looked at the bottom of the drodo page and there's no infobox |
03:39.46 | Cuttlefish | dude i wanna read the stuff |
03:39.51 | Cuttlefish | where do i find it |
03:40.04 | DrodoEmpire | One of them drop-down boxes you mean? |
03:40.10 | DrodoEmpire | Don't got one, not yet |
03:40.41 | DrodoEmpire | I should have one, and I'll look in to it but I've been kept busy |
03:42.10 | Cuttlefish | I think there is allot of busy. The wiki's activity is less than I remember. |
03:42.52 | DrodoEmpire | Eh, summer's over so a lot of people are back to school, or back full-time |
03:42.55 | DrodoEmpire | No biggie |
03:42.57 | Cuttlefish | I mean it used to be impossible to see an entire day's edits without scrolling down at least a little bit. |
03:43.05 | Cuttlefish | But yeah no big deal |
03:43.14 | DrodoEmpire | I assure you, it gets like that all the time still XD |
03:43.36 | Cuttlefish | still fun talking with you peoples even if i'm having trouble getting back into creativity |
03:43.44 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, and that's fine |
03:43.51 | DrodoEmpire | Any news on your fiction idea? |
03:44.07 | DrodoEmpire | (Also- anything you want to know regarding the Drodo? I can direct you to a page) |
03:44.29 | Cuttlefish | Well I got an idea but it's not science fiction. I had a vision this morning about a murder mystery where a ghost tries to solve their own murder. |
03:44.40 | DrodoEmpire | Oh cool |
03:44.51 | DrodoEmpire | That'd actually be an... interesting idea for like a novel or short story |
03:44.54 | DrodoEmpire | Hold on to that |
03:44.56 | Cuttlefish | Yeah any big stories including the drodo? What are you most proud of? |
03:45.01 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm |
03:45.02 | DrodoEmpire | tough |
03:45.16 | DrodoEmpire | They do have involvement in a lot, and I got a lot of big plans |
03:45.22 | DrodoEmpire | But... Hm |
03:45.28 | Cuttlefish | Or maybe like a good fiction to introduce me to the fiction |
03:45.40 | DrodoEmpire | Well, I'm working on Hard Contact with Tech, which is fun but as way of introduction not good |
03:45.41 | Cuttlefish | Like the andromeda war does with the draconis and stuff |
03:46.03 | DrodoEmpire | See I'm in a bad way with that, as I never did many character RPs and I'm only just doing that |
03:46.09 | DrodoEmpire | So I have no solid intro fiction in that way |
03:46.12 | DrodoEmpire | When I should |
03:46.49 | DrodoEmpire | I got a *really* strong intro fic for the Chalag, however, in the works |
03:47.08 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AChalag_Khanate |
03:47.31 | Cuttlefish | I do think I came back at a good time for fiction. I saw this thing ghelae and wormy are doing where a dalek gets entropic energy |
03:47.40 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
03:47.46 | DrodoEmpire | Which I have organised and ready to begin writing |
03:48.01 | DrodoEmpire | Hell, I might see if I can kick off the prologue with tech Sunday |
03:48.38 | DrodoEmpire | Which I'ma try to make just... *it*, the prologue alone, indicative of the Chalag's attitudes and power |
03:48.40 | Cuttlefish | wuts tech sunday |
03:48.49 | DrodoEmpire | Technobliterator, on sunday |
03:48.58 | Cuttlefish | oh |
03:49.18 | DrodoEmpire | As for a good intro fic for the Drodo... Hell, why not make it your intro fic, too? XD |
03:49.27 | DrodoEmpire | I'd really like to collab if you want to |
03:49.35 | DrodoEmpire | When you got a good strong fiction idea |
03:50.29 | Cuttlefish | I'd like that too, but while I'm FINALLY free of the stressful schedule, I got art block |
03:50.54 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh, kk |
03:51.09 | Cuttlefish | The first time I no longer have a busy job that takes up time, I lose my brain |
03:51.20 | Cuttlefish | Ef you universe |
03:51.24 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah >.< |
03:51.56 | Cuttlefish | Not all bad though the extra time just let me catch up on cartoons |
03:52.01 | Quark8 | Night. |
03:52.17 | Cuttlefish | later stranger |
03:53.01 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh XD |
03:53.09 | DrodoEmpire | But yeah, lemme know when you can |
03:53.43 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/xgHBIpX.png <.< |
03:54.37 | Cuttlefish | pfff |
03:55.31 | Cuttlefish | I've seen that before on tumblr, but it's still funny. I feel bad though one of my friends is color blind. |
03:55.43 | DrodoEmpire | Bah |
03:56.03 | DrodoEmpire | Its alright to laugh. XD |
03:56.11 | DrodoEmpire | Especially in front of him, and leave him confused >.> |
03:57.00 | Cuttlefish | Yeah. The mention of cartoons and color blindness reminds me of that joke in adventure time where like finn spends the episode hunting down this ruby |
03:57.11 | Cuttlefish | and at the end it turns out to be an emerald cause he's color blind |
03:57.40 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
03:57.54 | Cuttlefish | I heard it's ending in 2017 |
03:58.09 | Cuttlefish | and pen ward and fredernator studios are making a movie |
03:58.25 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
03:59.10 | Cuttlefish | Fredernator Studios, an animation thingy is making an adventure time movie to complete the series cause it's gonna end next year |
04:00.10 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
04:00.14 | DrodoEmpire | How long has it run for? |
04:00.31 | Cuttlefish | i think since late 2009 early 2010 |
04:00.42 | Cuttlefish | so season 7 is the last |
04:00.45 | Cuttlefish | not too bad |
04:00.46 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
04:00.53 | Cuttlefish | that's how long buffy lasted |
04:01.08 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
04:01.30 | Cuttlefish | Do you watch many tv shows? |
04:02.01 | DrodoEmpire | Eh, used to |
04:02.04 | DrodoEmpire | Not many anymore |
04:02.10 | DrodoEmpire | More of a youtube guy really |
04:02.20 | DrodoEmpire | (Which is strange that that's a thing, now) |
04:02.42 | DrodoEmpire | But, yeah, its mostly reading, youtube, and music that fills my spare time |
04:02.46 | DrodoEmpire | That and games |
04:02.49 | Cuttlefish | Yeah. I just use netflix/tv shows uploaded to sites in europe where american companies can't take them down |
04:03.14 | Cuttlefish | Which is wrong |
04:03.22 | DrodoEmpire | Meh |
04:03.23 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
04:03.29 | Cuttlefish | but like i don't wanna spend money to buy every episode |
04:03.56 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh, netflix isn't that expensive |
04:04.02 | DrodoEmpire | Most can spare eight bucks a month |
04:04.22 | Cuttlefish | Well we do pay for netflix but netflix doesn't have everything |
04:04.30 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh, fair fair |
04:04.47 | DrodoEmpire | (Oh, speaking of music-- I |
04:05.04 | DrodoEmpire | *I'm super excited about Madeon and Porter Robinson going on tour https://twitter.com/madeon/status/781226654504845313 ) |
04:05.21 | Cuttlefish | Also I sometimes pirate music from youtube audio |
04:05.32 | Cuttlefish | I'm a filthy criminal |
04:05.32 | DrodoEmpire | Same |
04:05.34 | DrodoEmpire | shhhh |
04:05.52 | DrodoEmpire | >.> |
04:06.13 | Cuttlefish | Yeah I dunno who madeon and porter robinson are |
04:06.25 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
04:06.36 | Cuttlefish | genre? |
04:06.37 | DrodoEmpire | I listen more to madeon, but they're both good |
04:06.40 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm |
04:06.49 | DrodoEmpire | Tough question, Madeon himself often dodges the question XD |
04:07.06 | DrodoEmpire | Variably house, "synthpop", that area of electronic |
04:07.11 | Cuttlefish | hipster |
04:07.16 | DrodoEmpire | Nah :p |
04:07.36 | DrodoEmpire | Not terribly experimental, so not hipster, just really good electronic |
04:07.44 | Cuttlefish | that was a comment on him refusing to answer the question not your music tastes |
04:07.51 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
04:08.08 | DrodoEmpire | Not sure on that but yeah |
04:08.16 | DrodoEmpire | More that electronic in general's hard to organise in to genres |
04:08.20 | Cuttlefish | Oh he's french |
04:08.23 | DrodoEmpire | As you have literal dozens of subgenres |
04:08.24 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
04:08.38 | Cuttlefish | Guess that's why I've never heard of them |
04:08.43 | DrodoEmpire | Perhaps yeah |
04:09.14 | DrodoEmpire | He's *exploded* recently, started under the Madeon name when he was like 16 and it all went from there |
04:09.41 | Cuttlefish | I don't understand concerts |
04:09.47 | Cuttlefish | too loud too expensive |
04:09.47 | DrodoEmpire | How come? |
04:09.50 | DrodoEmpire | Meh |
04:10.11 | Cuttlefish | and also i really have no interest in like meeting celeberties |
04:10.23 | DrodoEmpire | I'd love to go to one soon, I hear the feeling of a concert can be hard to describe, its just *awesome& |
04:10.30 | DrodoEmpire | So I'd like to see for myself |
04:11.22 | Cuttlefish | I mean I guess I do understand concerts. I just don't find them worth it. |
04:11.27 | Cuttlefish | Personally |
04:11.30 | DrodoEmpire | Meh, that's alright |
04:13.46 | Cuttlefish | I'm not very good at talking about music. I like too many artists to answer a question like "what do you listen too" |
04:14.03 | DrodoEmpire | A |
04:14.04 | DrodoEmpire | *Ah |
04:14.05 | Cuttlefish | So I'm reluctant to ask you and put you through the same mental hurdle |
04:14.10 | DrodoEmpire | Its alright |
04:14.11 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
04:16.00 | DrodoEmpire | Oh |
04:16.26 | DrodoEmpire | About your fiction- and I believe I asked this before- have you got any biological stuff worked out? Ideological/cultural beliefs? |
04:17.08 | Cuttlefish | I'm thinking of a monarchy that is transitioning into a military junta |
04:17.21 | Cuttlefish | my last fiction was a bunch of space hippies |
04:17.28 | Cuttlefish | so i think this is a good change |
04:17.29 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
04:18.15 | DrodoEmpire | Meh, to be fair the interaction between traditionalist Drodo with strict ideas of class and respect and space hippies *would* be funny |
04:18.19 | Cuttlefish | The shellious were a bunch of underwater shaman turtles. So I want my next fiction to be conquer crazy |
04:18.23 | DrodoEmpire | Ah. |
04:19.48 | Cuttlefish | maybe i can answer the music question if i just open the tunes library and just find the artist with the most plays |
04:20.01 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
04:20.46 | Cuttlefish | I keep track of how many times i've listened to a song so i can be like "no you've listened to this like 3 times in the past 3 hours do something else" |
04:21.00 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
04:21.21 | Cuttlefish | Oh |
04:21.38 | Cuttlefish | it seems my most played audio file is a recording of pengu saying "noot noot" |
04:21.52 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
04:22.03 | Cuttlefish | it makes me laugh when i hear that on shuffle |
04:22.12 | Cuttlefish | and it's too short to skip |
04:23.13 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
04:25.22 | Cuttlefish | I'm such a hyporcrite judging people for music tastes. I just rapper Nicki Manaj and orchestra composer Glenn Miller right next to eachother |
04:25.44 | DrodoEmpire | Meh |
04:26.25 | DrodoEmpire | I don't like the whole debate with music in general- not because I dislike some music, or believe some music is just *bad*-- its just not an argument worth having |
04:26.33 | DrodoEmpire | And not a good value judgement on someone, either >.< |
04:28.29 | Cuttlefish | I don't think I have any electrical sound effect music stuff. Like whatever it is that genre is. |
04:29.08 | Cuttlefish | I don't even know what synth means. Is it short for synthetic cause like it doesn't use real insturments? |
04:29.12 | DrodoEmpire | Electronic, and really the genre's so broad and bleeds so much in to other genres that "electronic" is meaningless |
04:29.27 | DrodoEmpire | Synths are simulated instruments, yes |
04:29.52 | DrodoEmpire | Computer-generated sounds in general, often have little resemblance to any sound a "real" instrument makes |
04:31.12 | DrodoEmpire | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEABPD4wNCg - this track (among my favourites) for example has a fairly distinct bass synth, among many others |
04:31.54 | DrodoEmpire | (There're better examples like trap tracks, but this one's a bit more upbeat and poppy and family friendly <.<) |
04:32.01 | DrodoEmpire | (And, again, one of my favourites) |
04:33.07 | Cuttlefish | Oh yeah I think I have some songs like this |
04:33.41 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah sometimes the difference between a song that's considered electronic and one that's considered pop is who is credited as the artist :p |
04:33.48 | DrodoEmpire | That's what I've learnt |
04:34.09 | DrodoEmpire | Granted, The City is obviously more focused on the instrumental |
04:34.22 | Cuttlefish | So is this dude your fave artist then? |
04:34.29 | DrodoEmpire | Probably |
04:34.32 | DrodoEmpire | One of for sure |
04:36.05 | DrodoEmpire | Really I just wanna see an extended cut of that Sad Machine/You're On live mix from the twitter video <.< |
04:36.13 | Cuttlefish | I don't have many artists that I follow. Like I only really bother to subscribe to the vevo channels of like 1 or 2 people |
04:36.14 | DrodoEmpire | That shit's incredible |
04:36.26 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I'm more've a song guy too but I make exceptions |
04:37.31 | Cuttlefish | I mean the artist with the most songs would probably be Maria and the Diamonds but even for her I don't like everything. |
04:37.58 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
04:38.12 | Cuttlefish | And I think I'm subscrubed to the fueled by ramen channel |
04:38.21 | Cuttlefish | but that's just cause it has multiple artists |
04:38.45 | DrodoEmpire | Right, right |
04:39.07 | Cuttlefish | Paramore is one of the few things that is universally appreciated within my main social circle |
04:39.27 | DrodoEmpire | Oh? |
04:40.13 | Cuttlefish | and panic at the disco i guess, but i don't enjoy them as much as other people seem too |
04:41.03 | DrodoEmpire | Never listened in to them\ |
04:41.45 | Cuttlefish | I really like that new band Joe Jonas started DNCE. |
04:42.17 | Cuttlefish | but they're like new so I don't know for sure if I will like the future stuff too |
04:42.26 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
04:42.49 | DrodoEmpire | Sorta the same concern I had with madeon back about a year or so ago, when he released his full-length album Adventure |
04:43.06 | DrodoEmpire | I think everyone knew it was either gonna make or break him- and hoooooly shit it *made* him |
04:43.22 | Cuttlefish | Very rare is the instance where i have more than one song from the same album |
04:43.27 | DrodoEmpire | Same |
04:43.42 | DrodoEmpire | But I can listen to Adventure in order for a very long time- its an experience |
04:43.52 | DrodoEmpire | It was different from his earlier stuff, distinctly so, but in an objectively good way |
04:44.05 | Cuttlefish | Oh yeah and I only know two albums where I know which order they go in |
04:44.10 | DrodoEmpire | It demonstrated a more refined style, definitely |
04:44.16 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
04:44.19 | Cuttlefish | Though I suppose it's easier since those ones like tell a story or something |
04:44.28 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, same with Adventure |
04:44.41 | DrodoEmpire | It tells a... I suppose metaphorical story, through music and tone |
04:45.12 | DrodoEmpire | Starts in a very upbeat, idyllic place and ends in a very brooding, almost solemn place |
04:45.47 | Cuttlefish | Well I only notice the obvious ones. Like the black parade back in 2006 is not at all subtle about it's topic. |
04:45.54 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
04:46.57 | Cuttlefish | not sure what family jewels is about. I THINK it's about a depressed rich girl contemplating suicide but i'm not sure |
04:47.07 | Cuttlefish | I haven't like looked it up |
04:47.26 | Cuttlefish | I should probably do that at some point |
04:47.51 | Cuttlefish | I had breathe in mt imogen heap in my library for a whole year before I realised that it was about weed |
04:48.15 | Cuttlefish | I thought it was just a happy love song but nope it was about cannabis |
04:48.23 | Cuttlefish | And I didn't even notice |
04:49.05 | Cuttlefish | And when I look back on it should be obvious |
04:50.40 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
04:50.48 | DrodoEmpire | Meh, song about weed isn't too bad |
04:51.48 | Cuttlefish | Yeah the reason I don't have allot of mainstream music is cause I feel bad when I listen to a song with swears in it |
04:52.18 | Cuttlefish | I'm very un adult for my age |
04:53.10 | DrodoEmpire | Huh. |
04:53.24 | DrodoEmpire | I either don't mind or revel in how offensive or racy it is <.< |
04:59.30 | Cuttlefish | Also I listen to music like 20 songs at a time once a week instead of spread out and stuff |
05:00.32 | Cuttlefish | Music is like a mood. Most of the time you i'm not really feeling it. |
05:00.54 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
05:02.39 | Cuttlefish | i think the first synth song thing is ghost by mystery skulls. i only found that cause the music video was an animated parody of scooby doo and i looked at it like "holy shoop this is pretty darn well animated sir" |
05:02.59 | Cuttlefish | the first song to come to mind that i have |
05:04.19 | Cuttlefish | i think the whole animated bands thing is kinda cool. I don't listen to gorillaz but I will admit the concept is really fun |
05:04.53 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, sorta cool |
05:07.21 | Cuttlefish | is it 2am in halifax? |
05:07.47 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not in Halifax, but yeah |
05:07.51 | DrodoEmpire | I do need to go soon >.< |
05:07.59 | Cuttlefish | go to bed |
05:40.25 | The_Randomness | oh woops |
05:40.29 | The_Randomness | Forgot I had this open |
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10:35.46 | Jepardi | Hi |
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10:46.12 | dino82_ | howz all doing |
10:46.26 | Xho | Well I woke up a while ago |
10:46.30 | Xho | Still figuring it out |
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11:01.44 | dino82_ | lol |
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11:05.33 | Monet | Hi |
11:06.33 | Treebeard | Hello |
11:29.18 | dino82_ | hi |
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12:01.21 | Xho | ups |
12:03.00 | OluapPlayer | spu |
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12:05.54 | Xho | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/8b/Longinus2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20161001120528 Remade Longinus with his original set of armour |
12:06.42 | OluapPlayer | I see |
12:18.28 | Monet | I like the segmentation. |
12:18.39 | Monet | Wait does he have his abs exposed? |
12:21.55 | Xho | Yep |
12:23.37 | NeonPanda | how else is anyone gonna know he has sick abs? |
12:23.44 | Xho | Longinus - this guy |
12:24.24 | Xho | I don't think anyone would bring up the fallacy of exposing the torso to a guy who has a divine superweapon |
12:25.06 | OluapPlayer | Arrow to the lung, ded |
12:25.34 | Xho | Longinus - i used to be a divine warrior like you then i took an arrow to the lung |
12:26.59 | Monet | Yeah Longinius doesnt' strike me as the kind of warrior who'd be bothered by stabbed abs |
12:27.17 | OluapPlayer | He should considering what he fights hur |
12:27.38 | Xho | The only permanent scar Longinus has is a burn and a wound over the right side of his face |
12:27.43 | Xho | And yeah caused by Void Denziens |
12:28.07 | OluapPlayer | Speaking of which |
12:28.13 | OluapPlayer | get Eschaton moving goddangit |
12:28.18 | Xho | no hachi or imperios :v |
12:28.22 | OluapPlayer | get Eschaton moving goddangit |
12:28.25 | Xho | no hachi or imperios :v |
12:28.32 | OluapPlayer | fok |
12:28.34 | Xho | no hachi or imperios :v |
12:28.47 | Xho | But I should do yes |
12:28.57 | OluapPlayer | I do need to talk to Imp |
12:29.04 | OluapPlayer | Mostly because I have to tell him something |
12:29.28 | NeonPanda | that you truly, deeply love him? |
12:29.30 | Xho | "you suck" - OluapPlayer, 2016 |
12:29.59 | OluapPlayer | that love isn't meant to be when i'm already committed to xho tho |
12:30.30 | Xho | Well it's more like an elderly couple who can't stand each other but have no option but to live with each other because our pensions are better off combined |
12:31.02 | Xho | So yeah commitment and a half |
12:31.15 | OluapPlayer | That's fucking depressing hur |
12:31.40 | NeonPanda | well if you expected sunshine and rainbows from Xho you might want to reevaluate things |
12:31.48 | OluapPlayer | Point taken |
12:31.51 | Xho | ayyy |
12:32.24 | OluapPlayer | Monet: I could tell you though. I gave in and am downloading the trial version of WoW |
12:32.49 | Xho | oh fok |
12:32.53 | Xho | u ded nigga u ded |
12:33.29 | Monet | Join ussss |
12:34.00 | Monet | NeonPanda: Some guy in Rapture uses Australia Day as a keycode -> the code put January first. |
12:34.07 | OluapPlayer | I can join you up to level 20, more than that requires too much financial investment |
12:34.19 | Monet | I think I have a low-level Dwarf paladin |
12:34.38 | OluapPlayer | I did intend to play a dwarf |
12:34.51 | Xho | dorf |
12:34.58 | OluapPlayer | BEER |
12:35.05 | Xho | I've seen my friend play WoW |
12:35.08 | Xho | Way too much shit going on |
12:35.30 | OluapPlayer | He was probably in a raid with 30+ other people in it |
12:36.00 | OluapPlayer | Still I feel like I'm a dirty hypocrite since I was badmouthing WoW just a few days ago |
12:36.11 | OluapPlayer | I can only imagine how Imp is gonna react |
12:36.29 | Monet | If you like it we can forgive you. |
12:36.53 | OluapPlayer | You can't convince me to like everything hur |
12:36.55 | NeonPanda | Monet: well it IS an american game |
12:37.19 | Xho | If I were to join WoW I'd make a character called Jeeroy Lenkins because I'm imaginative as fuck |
12:37.56 | NeonPanda | I'd try to figure out which permutation of Legolas hasn't been used yet just for the entertainment value |
12:38.21 | OluapPlayer | That joke is so old I can't even think of an analogy |
12:38.59 | OluapPlayer | Monet: How much content do I get by being capped at level 20? |
12:41.31 | Monet | NeonPanda: American yeah, but Rapture's supposed to be an international city |
12:42.39 | NeonPanda | perhaps, but do you really expect a primarily american audience to realise that Australians use the day>month>year format for hte sake of one code? |
12:42.42 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Two full zones, the capital city, I think players can get mounts at level 20. |
12:43.10 | OluapPlayer | What do you mean by two full zones? |
12:43.28 | OluapPlayer | I'm going in essentially blind |
12:44.14 | Monet | Well, you can do stuff in the lowest two zones. Basically every zone has a ten-level band. |
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12:44.34 | Hachiman | HAI-I YAI FORCES |
12:44.43 | Monet | You -can- walk about a level 50 zone, but the local wildlife is going to use your femurs for toothpicks. |
12:44.45 | OluapPlayer | rabbit |
12:44.55 | Monet | Hi |
12:45.03 | OluapPlayer | That's expected |
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12:45.15 | Hachiman | You should spend all your time in Goldshire and get to know the RP community |
12:45.31 | OluapPlayer | But like, do I get a good amount of stuff to do or am I gonna run out of quests quickly? |
12:45.39 | Monet | There was this thing in vanilla called the welcome bear - there was a 30-level difference between Tirisfal glades and Western PLaguelands. |
12:46.50 | Monet | Oluap: There's plenty to do. And the 1-20 zones of every race is open to you. |
12:47.01 | Wormy_ | hi |
12:47.05 | OluapPlayer | Right that's my main concern |
12:47.31 | Monet | So if you run out of stuff to do in Loch Modan you can explore Westfall or Bloodmyst isle |
12:47.31 | OluapPlayer | And regarding that subject, I hear there's a certain gnoll who's supposed to be a pain to low level characters? |
12:47.46 | Monet | Ah yes...Hogger. |
12:47.52 | OluapPlayer | Yeah that one |
12:48.47 | Hachiman | Legion should've brought Hogger back as a corrupted gnoll warlord or something |
12:48.55 | Hachiman | I know of his reputation hur |
12:49.11 | Monet | They gave him his own blood-stained mound in Cataclysm. |
12:49.23 | OluapPlayer | Is there a story progression or am I gonna start at the latest event already? |
12:49.50 | Monet | There's story progression |
12:50.03 | OluapPlayer | Okay cool |
12:50.40 | Monet | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/e/ec/Hoggerhill.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110308235058 dare to enter. |
12:51.00 | OluapPlayer | bony |
12:51.08 | OluapPlayer | Only important question I got left is, how grind-heavy is the game? |
12:52.03 | Monet | It used to be worse. Now I'd say the primary storylines for each zone don't require you to run off and level for a bit before continuing |
12:52.40 | OluapPlayer | That's cool |
12:52.57 | OluapPlayer | I don't mind some grinding as long as it's not Monster Hunter-tier grinding. One game like that is enough |
12:53.25 | Monet | Ah crap I just realised; you're probably going to be on the American servers. |
12:53.48 | OluapPlayer | Are the servers region-locked? |
12:54.52 | dino82_ | @monet: Oh WoW! |
12:54.55 | Monet | https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/3vl9lg/can_you_change_battlenet_accounts_to_different/ |
12:55.11 | dino82_ | you play as well? |
12:55.17 | Monet | Used to |
12:55.31 | dino82_ | naice |
12:56.35 | OluapPlayer | So I'll have to make the character in the EU server to play with you and Imp |
12:56.41 | Monet | Yeah. |
12:57.10 | OluapPlayer | Bit dumb but alright I guess |
12:57.20 | OluapPlayer | I'll have to deal with higher latency |
12:59.14 | Monet | I think Imp said yesterday was his last day of WoW until a later time. |
12:59.41 | Monet | Argent Dawn is a great server for RP. There's usually something going on in Stormwind's pubs. |
12:59.59 | OluapPlayer | I'll be focused on questing at first |
13:00.22 | OluapPlayer | I'd probably not rp with strangers anyway |
13:01.51 | dino82_ | I like the current legion |
13:01.52 | dino82_ | neat stories |
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13:03.06 | Monet | dino82_: Do you play? |
13:03.14 | dino82_ | @monet: Yeah! Have Paladin of 110 |
13:03.20 | dino82_ | Long live the Silver Hand :D |
13:03.29 | OluapPlayer | Dino definitely plays Warcraft. He made creatures based on Pit Lords once |
13:03.39 | dino82_ | stepped in around Cataclysm or so |
13:03.45 | Monet | And blood elves |
13:03.52 | Monet | I was curious if you still do. |
13:04.28 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Actually yeah I remember it can be unnerving to walk up to someone. Most people on Argent Dawn stay i ncharacter if they're nto running around doing quests. |
13:05.02 | dino82_ | Yeah Love the Blood Elves and NightBorn, awesome species :D though prefer LoTR or Tolkien world a bit more due to that being a bit more darker. Long live Sauron and so haha. |
13:05.14 | dino82_ | Yeah I like legion, currenlty working on improving relations in Suramar |
13:05.22 | dino82_ | but I admit, just like on the wiki I sometimes have no clue what I am doing :D |
13:05.38 | OluapPlayer | Oh wow |
13:05.43 | dino82_ | sometimes need youtube or a guide hint to actually explain some vague quests and so or to find a solution haha |
13:05.58 | Hachiman | I love how chill you are Dino |
13:06.18 | dino82_ | @Hachi: Whahaha :P |
13:10.06 | NeonPanda | every time an MMO conversation comes up I remember the Secret World MMO, that was an experience |
13:10.25 | Monet | NeonPanda: Indeed |
13:11.10 | Monet | OluapPlayer: The questing system is a lot better designed post-cataclysm. |
13:11.27 | OluapPlayer | How so? |
13:16.21 | Monet | Well you don't really get problematic quests like The Hunt for Mankrik's Wife anymore. |
13:16.40 | Monet | You can use your map to see where you need to go. |
13:16.57 | OluapPlayer | I don't know how it worked before |
13:18.42 | OluapPlayer | Right I'm gonna go and try it out now |
13:30.35 | OluapPlayer | It doesn't seem like I can change from the american to the european server |
13:30.43 | OluapPlayer | I can only change between US and Oceania |
13:33.45 | Monet | Odd. |
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13:34.01 | Monet | I can change between America, Europe, Asia and China |
13:35.42 | Monet | http://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/9938793810 this might help |
13:39.38 | Monet | Actually about grinding I recall levelling up is musch faster. |
13:40.08 | Monet | Used to be it would take a week to go from lvl 10 to lvl 20, now it can be done in a weekend or less. |
14:05.33 | Xho | Hachiman: https://soundcloud.com/turkeychickensandwich/meshuggah-style-riffage Got bored, went Meshuggah |
14:10.24 | OluapPlayer | Monet: These trolls are surprisingly chill with me just strolling into their camp and watching them plan |
14:11.14 | Monet | MAybe they mean no harm? |
14:12.17 | OluapPlayer | One dwarf asked me to kill a couple of them, and they say they're dealing with an elemental to take over the valley |
14:12.32 | OluapPlayer | But they sure don't mind the dwarf going up to their faces to check on what they're saying |
14:13.09 | Monet | "ahh dese dwarves be too stupid, mon" |
14:15.12 | OluapPlayer | In fact everything in this place only attacks me if I attack them first |
14:15.20 | OluapPlayer | I was the true villain all along |
14:15.31 | Xho | juj |
14:15.42 | Monet | Dan-dun-DAAAAAAAAAAAN |
14:17.09 | Xho | I thought that was in reference to my track for a sec |
14:17.15 | Xho | Accurate either way |
14:22.42 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Did the kink help with your server problem? |
14:23.13 | OluapPlayer | I'm playing atm so I'll try later |
14:26.17 | Monet | Morerandom: I think it says a lot when a city goes from a motto like "No gods or kings, only man" to citizens timidly singing "Jesus loves me, this I know, for the Bible tells me so." |
14:28.36 | Monet | Though I don't know whose more deluded, those guys, or Ryan boasting that the city will be restored after the player is killed. |
14:29.42 | Hachiman | What's this? |
14:29.47 | Monet | Rapture. |
14:29.54 | Monet | BioShock |
14:30.33 | Monet | Rapture...I'd say it's three bolds from an engineer going "*sniff* nah sorry it's gone mate." |
14:30.49 | Monet | If it's not there already ofc |
14:31.48 | NeonPanda | OluapPlayer: a while ago they set all the mobs in the starting zones to neutral rather than aggressive, iirc (I know this only because a friend was making a joke about it) |
14:32.03 | OluapPlayer | That'd explain it |
14:32.18 | Monet | Makes sense |
14:33.05 | dino82_ | :d |
14:33.07 | Monet | You're fresh in the game and mobs are so numerous that all of even a certain type might overwhelm you |
14:33.46 | NeonPanda | I believe it was intended to speed progression, but I can't remember if that was conjecture on my part or if I had a source |
14:34.32 | Monet | Well it does mean once you've killed all you need you can just walk out the area. |
14:36.17 | OluapPlayer | Still amusing to see trolls walk past nonchalantly as you're murdering their leader and women |
14:37.07 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Some good news regarding what you can do, you can run some of the lowest-level dungeons. |
14:38.24 | Monet | the looking-for-group system means you can do these with the wonderful happy world of pick-up groups XD |
14:38.42 | OluapPlayer | oh dear |
14:39.10 | OluapPlayer | I'm good walking around by myself for now |
14:39.28 | Monet | This is more lvl 15-20 stuff. |
14:40.55 | Monet | anyway bbl. |
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14:53.11 | Treebeard | Hello |
14:53.43 | Wormy_ | brb |
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14:56.49 | Wormy_ | hi |
15:08.56 | dino82_ | hi |
15:10.57 | Xho | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/20/Longinus.png/revision/latest?cb=20140427161728 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/8b/Longinus2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20161001120528 2 1/2 years apart kek |
15:15.18 | dino82_ | Neat! |
15:16.09 | dino82_ | intro adn prologue of a new story: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tertius_Bellum/Crossing_Line |
15:43.58 | Xho | hm wat do |
15:44.50 | Technobliterator | stoof |
15:45.05 | Technobliterator | Well, there's always a Borealis War section |
15:45.38 | Xho | Ah yes the one we keep missing each other on |
15:45.40 | Xho | titanpad nao |
15:49.49 | Xho | Technobliterator: ^ |
15:55.02 | Xho | Technobliterator: ^ |
15:55.42 | Technobliterator | hi |
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15:59.37 | Hachiman | "You know your ghost show is legit when you're using the Xbox Kinect to find a ghost. Fucking thing doesn't even work with humans." |
16:00.37 | Xho | fukn rabit |
16:00.53 | Xho | Hachiman: https://soundcloud.com/turkeychickensandwich/meshuggah-style-riffage I posted this earlier and you died |
16:03.05 | Hachiman | I'll check it in a bit |
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16:04.30 | OluapPlayer | Monet: I got a wolpertinger pet |
16:04.38 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/d7/Acolyte_Kalorun.png/revision/latest?cb=20160927225324 Oooh new Chosen |
16:04.45 | Imperios | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/4/40/Acolyte_Finkaron.png/revision/latest?cb=20160927224335 I especially like this one |
16:04.50 | Imperios | He has a hat |
16:04.53 | OluapPlayer | dur |
16:04.55 | Imperios | A big hat |
16:04.57 | Imperios | I approve |
16:05.05 | Xho | Everyone's here for Eschaton blah |
16:05.12 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: I gave him. I'm currently playing the trial version of WoW |
16:05.27 | OluapPlayer | You're free to call me a dirty hypocrite |
16:05.34 | Imperios | And before you ask why I did not notice earlier, I was playing nothing but WoW last two days |
16:05.37 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Nah it's okay |
16:05.50 | Xho | Oh ffs Titanpad |
16:05.52 | Imperios | Trials won't show that much though |
16:06.02 | Xho | FUCKING CUNTING FUCKING BITCH-ASS PUNK-ASS MOTHERFUCKER |
16:06.20 | Imperios | Actually |
16:06.23 | Imperios | Play a panda |
16:06.26 | Monet | I tried mentioning dungeons. |
16:06.31 | OluapPlayer | I can't and won't pay for it since that requires money I don't have |
16:06.31 | Imperios | Panda levelling experience is sweet |
16:06.36 | OluapPlayer | And I'm playing a dwarf |
16:06.39 | Imperios | Dorf |
16:06.45 | Hachiman | I'm kind of in the middle of something so I might not be available right at this moment |
16:06.55 | OluapPlayer | There was something called a Brewfest |
16:06.58 | Imperios | *in the middle of fapping |
16:07.03 | OluapPlayer | A bunch of people drinking booze |
16:07.12 | Imperios | Yeah that happens every October |
16:07.19 | Imperios | I kind of wanted to do achievements for it |
16:07.19 | Xho | Technobliterator: pad's up again |
16:07.21 | Hachiman | OKTOBERFEST |
16:07.25 | OluapPlayer | Then some evil dwarves suddenly came out of the ground |
16:07.27 | Technobliterator | mhm |
16:07.31 | Imperios | Well yes that's Octoberfest |
16:07.33 | Imperios | Oktober even |
16:07.34 | OluapPlayer | People started throwing cups at them |
16:07.39 | Technobliterator | i'm going to refresh |
16:07.41 | OluapPlayer | It was silly as fuck |
16:08.00 | Imperios | For the best experience, play as monk |
16:08.01 | Xho | I'M GOING TO SHOVE A WHISK UP TITANPAD'S BABY HOLE IF IT KEEPS DISCONNECTING |
16:08.11 | Imperios | Brewmaster monks are the best |
16:08.19 | Imperios | You get to throw booze at people, then breathe fire at them and watch as they burn |
16:08.34 | Monet | OLuapPlayer: Yeah WoW celebrates every holiday. |
16:08.40 | Technobliterator | dc'd for me too |
16:08.40 | Technobliterator | : | |
16:08.41 | OluapPlayer | But like I mentioned just as you joined, one quest gave me a wolpertinger pet |
16:08.42 | Imperios | Then at level 100 you get explosive booze |
16:08.48 | OluapPlayer | It's a jackalope with wings |
16:09.48 | Monet | A real wolpertinger iirc is best described as a frankenstein's monster. In real life they're something taxidermists like to stich together out of random animal parts. |
16:10.12 | Monet | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Wolpertinger_(2014,_Z%C3%BCrich).jpg aint it cute :3 |
16:10.18 | OluapPlayer | Also if this is an yearly event, it explains the level 110 players running around |
16:10.37 | Xho | one hit kill scrubs |
16:10.39 | OluapPlayer | Monet: ech |
16:10.49 | Xho | Wow Titanpad is beyond dead |
16:10.57 | Xho | Never seen it so bad |
16:11.03 | Monet | OluapPlayer: YEah it's eyarly |
16:11.07 | OluapPlayer | The one in the game is a jackalope with wings |
16:11.12 | OluapPlayer | And it is cute |
16:11.31 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Hmmmm |
16:11.40 | Imperios | After the Dark Iron dwarf attack, was there a cog with a quest? |
16:11.41 | Technobliterator | seems to be back up? |
16:11.53 | Monet | Yeah the more typical construction is a bunny with wings, fangs and maybe duck-feet. |
16:11.56 | OluapPlayer | Nope, they just came and left |
16:12.29 | Technobliterator | amazing. |
16:12.38 | Technobliterator | It's really bad today, for some reason |
16:12.39 | Xho | Fuck it I'm not doing it with Titanpad like this |
16:12.43 | Technobliterator | yeah |
16:12.50 | OluapPlayer | I'm level 7 atm |
16:12.54 | Technobliterator | Best to wait and try another day, but at least we got a good star |
16:12.55 | Technobliterator | t |
16:13.01 | Monet | https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UFDAZBTVOcI/VVNB1pNfoWI/AAAAAAAAAvY/s1re9MeZ6vM/w506-h397/wolpert-WM.jpg here's one with a squirrel body. |
16:14.06 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: As for the starting experience: if you are going to have another character, try undead |
16:14.16 | Imperios | They have one of the best starting experiences in the game |
16:14.28 | OluapPlayer | How so? |
16:14.52 | Monet | Imperios: Introduce him to Sylvanas lol. |
16:14.59 | Imperios | It is very intense basically |
16:15.10 | Imperios | And focuses on the undead/worgen war |
16:15.43 | Imperios | In the Alliance I think the best 10-20 zone is either Darkshore or Westfall, so feel free to visit any of these two |
16:16.51 | Xho | OluapPlayer: You think I should remake Acolyte Dood pre-ded mode |
16:17.34 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
16:17.49 | Xho | "Acolyte of Might" |
16:17.53 | Xho | acolyte of myte |
16:17.58 | Imperios | Acolute of Moth |
16:18.10 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: I don't think I'll have much choice soon hur |
16:18.40 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Well, after doing the starting zone, you do have choice |
16:18.59 | Imperios | THere are like 4 zones to choose which are relatively easy to access |
16:20.15 | Monet | Westfall and Darkshore are easy to get to, there's the tram between Stormwind and Ironforge and then you can take a boat to Darkshore form Stormwind. |
16:20.52 | Imperios | Yeah |
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16:23.31 | Treebeard | Hello |
16:23.33 | Monet | Stormwind is probably the most well-connected city in Azeroth: You've got the tram, boats to Kalimndor, boats to Northrend, portals to the Cataclysm areas and a portal to WoD Draenor. |
16:24.09 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
16:24.09 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
16:28.50 | Imperios | THe most well-connected cities I think are the temples in Pandaria |
16:29.55 | Monet | Maybe |
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16:31.18 | Treebeard | Hello |
16:31.56 | Charles_Murray | Hey |
16:31.59 | Monet | Hello |
16:33.15 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
16:34.22 | Charles_Murray | Het |
16:35.09 | Tek0516 | Hey |
16:39.33 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Oh, and as a troll, you get to fight the Sea Witch from WC3's tutorial |
16:39.48 | OluapPlayer | I heard she was in the game |
16:41.32 | OluapPlayer | Wow, Ironforge looks cool |
16:43.09 | Xho | OluapPlayer: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/83/Nai-Ar%27natlDC2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20161001164226 Acolyte Dood, Starring Acolyte Dood |
16:43.16 | Monet | I rememebr they shwoed it in the Warcraft movie. |
16:45.20 | OluapPlayer | bug |
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16:55.09 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
16:56.52 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#Minos.27Drakon_Devastated_By_Terrorist_Attack boom |
16:57.22 | Xho | "Disciples of the Sun-King" inb4 fantasyverse crossover |
16:59.42 | Monet | The garrison had to contend with a violent branch of YMCA dancers. |
17:01.00 | DrodoEmpire | Oh wow |
17:01.56 | Monet | Hold on let me make a link or two |
17:01.56 | DrodoEmpire | I'll be sure to leave a message from the Drodo Empire- I figure they'd offer humanitarian aid, or assistance in rebuilding |
17:01.59 | DrodoEmpire | kk |
17:04.37 | Monet | Right F5 |
17:05.02 | Xho | You edit conflicted me there |
17:05.04 | DrodoEmpire | Yep |
17:05.19 | Xho | Oh wait hold on |
17:05.23 | Xho | Can't do that |
17:05.28 | Xho | Lemme re-edit that |
17:06.42 | Xho | There we go |
17:08.21 | Monet | A project like this will likely be looking for a lot of foreign investment |
17:09.40 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
17:13.26 | Charles_Murray | France - shut up and take my money |
17:14.04 | Monet | Minos'Drakon - Okay! |
17:14.13 | Xho | debtincreases.avi |
17:14.32 | Charles_Murray | lol |
17:20.23 | Xho | Imperios Hachiman: Gimme a quote for Longinus |
17:20.33 | Imperios | "Long inus is long" |
17:20.36 | Monet | Eh, it could all be paid back by the business a new MD attracts. |
17:21.21 | Charles_Murray | ^ basically the definition of an investment |
17:23.57 | Monet | If only I had the kind of money ot be an investor irl |
17:27.28 | dino82_ | poor draconid imperium |
17:27.31 | dino82_ | another terrorist strike? |
17:29.58 | Monet | Fraid so |
17:30.10 | Monet | This one's more like a foreign invasion though |
17:30.57 | dino82_ | auch |
17:31.25 | Xho | Monet: Kinda funny because I wanted to talk to you about a potential Dominion attack on their outer turf |
17:33.25 | Imperios | Xho: "Ecce servus ordinis! Sacramentum sacrosanctum dico, in praesentia nostri frantrum Solis Invictique, pax eacum! Numquam inoboediam, numquam dubitÄbÅ, numquam fugiam. Ita me Aure bene ament." |
17:33.30 | Imperios | There we go |
17:33.41 | Xho | translation pls |
17:34.13 | dino82_ | for the crossing line: the first shipment arrives from the other side: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:TertiusCrossingLine03.png |
17:34.40 | Imperios | "Behold the servant of the Order. I hereby swear the Sacrosanct Oath, in presence of our brothers and the Unconquerable Sun, peace be upon her. Never shall I disobey, never shall I doubt, never shall I flee. So help me Aur." |
17:35.21 | Xho | rite |
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17:36.14 | dino82_ | hi |
17:38.53 | Xho | Imperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Longinus |
17:44.15 | Xho | Actually that's inaccurate that date lemme edit that |
17:44.48 | Xho | F5 that |
17:45.59 | Xho | That makes the character inaccurate as we |
17:46.00 | Xho | well |
17:46.01 | Xho | dammit |
17:46.15 | Imperios | Xho: "Child: "Dad, how high is that building?" Building: "If I'm already built, why am I called a building?" Dad: "Pretty damn high." " |
17:46.18 | Xho | F5 again |
17:46.33 | Xho | Imperios: kek |
17:47.09 | Xho | I guess by the quote that the Imperator was ceremonially in the service of the Order of Sol |
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17:51.30 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o The_Randomness] by ChanServ |
17:51.44 | The_Randomness | Hello |
17:52.10 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
17:54.48 | Wormy_ | http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-technology/all-day-drinking-proved-to-be-impossible-20160929114595 |
17:55.12 | Wormy_ | >Professor Henry BRUbaker |
18:01.36 | The_Randomness | :P |
18:37.16 | Wormy_ | I wonder if we can work out the average rate of time that passes in the SporeWikiverse |
18:37.26 | Wormy_ | From our own writings |
18:37.32 | Wormy_ | Obviously, it fluctautes |
18:37.49 | Xho | 100 moths |
18:38.14 | Wormy_ | I wonder if we can reach the 30th century in the next couple of years |
18:38.49 | Xho | Year 2900 blaze it |
18:39.17 | Xho | We're creeping towards 2820 so |
18:39.32 | Xho | Some fictions are further forward than others |
18:39.37 | Wormy_ | If I reach 2994 I'll host somekind of celebration |
18:39.47 | Xho | My fiction is 2815 or around that date |
18:40.10 | Wormy_ | Dawnstar Project is my latest fiction interaction, so yeah 2815 too |
18:40.22 | Xho | Voidwalker is 2812 |
18:40.59 | Monet | Rebuilding Minos'Drakon might take a decade or two |
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19:20.52 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o OluapPlayer] by ChanServ |
19:21.14 | Monet | Hi |
19:21.45 | OluapPlayer | hi |
19:21.52 | OluapPlayer | That's enough WoW for now |
19:22.26 | Monet | So how'd it fare up? |
19:22.53 | OluapPlayer | It was fun |
19:23.20 | OluapPlayer | Got up to level 15 already |
19:24.28 | Monet | Nice |
19:42.24 | Monet | Not sure how long trial accounts last. |
19:42.36 | Xho | 3 |
19:42.40 | Xho | years |
19:42.56 | OluapPlayer | The trial has no time limit |
19:43.02 | OluapPlayer | It has a level limit |
19:43.58 | Xho | level |
19:44.07 | Xho | 20 |
19:44.31 | Xho | So I'm downloading Movie Studio 13 |
19:44.39 | Xho | 176 kb/sec |
19:44.43 | Xho | I'm dying here |
19:52.37 | DrodoEmpire | ey laymo |
20:03.47 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
20:07.39 | DrodoEmpire | Sounds pretty rude |
20:07.43 | Monet | Something's wrong when the highest-level member of your group is the one dying the most. |
20:10.19 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
20:12.54 | Monet | It looks like he missed "was GHelae's version of the Tier scale is" |
20:14.33 | Wormy_ | he missed the whole post by the looks of it :P |
20:24.32 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
20:24.43 | *** join/#sporewiki Quark8 (49c685a7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.198.133.167) |
20:24.43 | Quark8 | Hello. |
20:25.05 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
20:27.24 | *** join/#sporewiki ___ (97e0b05c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.151.224.176.92) |
20:27.48 | _____ | Jesus Christ this internet connection |
20:27.51 | Quark8 | Hello ____. |
20:27.56 | _____ | Needs a stabbing |
20:27.59 | _____ | Hi |
20:28.12 | Guest85471 | Oh alright I see |
20:28.22 | Hachiman | wat |
20:28.30 | ______ | 2many registered nicknames |
20:28.30 | Quark8 | Who are you? |
20:28.46 | ______ | It's pretty easy to guess considering an aggressive entry |
20:28.47 | Quark8 | *, may I ask? |
20:29.07 | ______ | Well who else wants to stab an internet connection |
20:30.07 | ______ | Painful times to be had by all right now |
20:30.19 | DrodoEmpire | Who's this? |
20:30.22 | Quark8 | Are you Xho? |
20:30.30 | Quark8 | Or anyone else? |
20:30.36 | OluapPlayer | It's Xho, same IP |
20:30.44 | Xho | doi |
20:30.46 | Xho | Course it's me who else would itbe |
20:30.48 | Xho | it be |
20:30.57 | OluapPlayer | Random strangers |
20:31.03 | Xho | fukn |
20:31.11 | Wormy_ | I was confused for a couple of seconds. |
20:31.13 | Xho | Well who else wants to stab the internet |
20:32.01 | OluapPlayer | Me hur |
20:32.03 | Wormy_ | stabs Xho for confusing him |
20:32.16 | Xho | fukn northerners |
20:32.56 | Xho | Currently downloading at a marvellous speed of 2380 kb/sec |
20:33.01 | Xho | 230 even |
20:36.04 | Xho | This is like a 30th of what my normal speed is |
20:36.20 | Xho | 15th maybe |
20:36.45 | Monet | Find whose stealing your data |
20:37.01 | DrodoEmpire | beat the shit out of them |
20:37.02 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
20:38.23 | Xho | My dad |
20:39.23 | DrodoEmpire | You heard me |
20:39.24 | DrodoEmpire | >.> |
20:39.50 | Monet | So...can you beat the shit out of him? XD |
20:39.59 | Xho | My dad's built like a brick shit house |
20:40.13 | Xho | No he could probably lift me over his head |
20:40.32 | Xho | That crazy middle aged man strength |
20:40.48 | Monet | He sounds like an inspiration |
20:40.50 | Xho | Although he's closer to 60 than being middle aged |
20:42.24 | Monet | He could batter my dad then |
20:42.25 | Xho | As for me I can lift my own body weight but it's not hard considering I'm under 70 kg |
20:43.01 | Xho | On a good day I can lift 60 kg or so |
20:43.49 | Xho | Some guy at work can lift like 180 kg so I don't bother trying |
20:43.59 | Xho | Oh hello internet speed went nuts |
20:44.07 | Xho | We're up to 2 mb/sec now |
21:01.07 | Quark8 | test |
21:07.48 | Xho | OluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWsSxewWLxo How To Summarise 2016 |
21:08.42 | Quark8 | Turns out that I have a fever, and it was probably caused by the medicine for my stomach parasite. |
21:08.46 | OluapPlayer | wut |
21:15.38 | Imperios | https://i.redd.it/sjm4t0epixox.png I made something |
21:16.01 | Imperios | Now I want to make a fiction concept around that somethnig |
21:16.06 | Imperios | But I am not sure what I could do |
21:16.13 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
21:20.49 | Monet | Republic of Harley |
21:21.48 | Xho | OluapPlayer: I got a comment from a sub saying "no fuck you" -> replied by linking him a url -> the same video |
21:22.05 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
21:22.56 | OluapPlayer | bet u think ur clever |
21:23.01 | Xho | It was a general Fuck My Fanbase video |
21:23.17 | Xho | My subs are just all kinds of stupid |
21:27.20 | Xho | Wow I actually got 2 likes and 1 dislike |
21:28.28 | DrodoEmpire | dislike cus gay |
21:28.30 | DrodoEmpire | >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>: |
21:29.33 | Monet | The more fans you have the more idiots you have to deal with. |
21:37.13 | *** join/#sporewiki TetrisD (46775cbf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.119.92.191) |
21:37.44 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
21:37.50 | Quark8 | Hey. |
21:37.51 | TetrisD | hi |
21:37.57 | Quark8 | How're you? |
21:38.09 | TetrisD | lol at first i was confused because i couldnt find the chatbar |
21:38.12 | TetrisD | good |
21:38.28 | DrodoEmpire | That's good |
21:39.28 | TetrisD | well, i guess i didnt interrupt anything? damn... |
21:39.50 | DrodoEmpire | No, you didn't |
21:40.11 | DrodoEmpire | The chat has some periods of quietness- lots of people on, just not much to talk about |
21:43.51 | TetrisD | well then, time to make something to talk about... eh... but first, can you give me directions to the nearest antimatter shop? |
21:44.00 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
21:44.46 | TetrisD | what happens if i click one of the links on the top? |
21:45.15 | Quark8 | You go to the website those links link to. |
21:45.20 | DrodoEmpire | It opens a new tab, sending you to the link |
21:50.50 | DrodoEmpire | Hey, what's your fiction anyway, TetrisD? |
21:52.22 | TetrisD | well, i didnt write it yet... |
21:52.41 | DrodoEmpire | Right, right |
21:52.51 | DrodoEmpire | What's your idea? |
21:54.13 | TetrisD | well, basically, i have a planet called Ceria, which is at the edge of the andromeda galaxy, but dangerously close to a black hole (not because of the gravity, but because of the gamma rays) |
21:54.51 | TetrisD | because of this, the inhabitants of ceria are extremely resistant to radiation |
21:55.30 | TetrisD | btw, do you want the really long explanation, or should i try my best to shorten it? |
21:57.12 | DrodoEmpire | Nah, go ahead |
21:57.28 | TetrisD | ok |
21:58.14 | TetrisD | so, around 10 billion years ago (really old, even for a planet!), life evolves |
21:59.16 | TetrisD | 4 billion years later, sentient life evolves, basically centuar-like beings who are covered in an exoskeleton and have a beak, and they call themselves the Raladin |
21:59.39 | DrodoEmpire | Alright. |
21:59.49 | TetrisD | as soon as the raladin reaches the civ stage though, they start a nuclear war and extinct themselves |
21:59.55 | DrodoEmpire | Hm |
21:59.57 | DrodoEmpire | One thing |
22:00.10 | TetrisD | ? |
22:00.30 | DrodoEmpire | I... I can't *stand* the way Spore divides up the evolution of societies >.< "tribal stage" and "civ stage" are worse than meaningless |
22:00.44 | TetrisD | lol, me too |
22:01.00 | TetrisD | i just said "civ stage" because convience |
22:01.06 | DrodoEmpire | Their civilisation made it to the nuclear age, anyway, and they destroyed themselves at any rate |
22:01.09 | Monet | Its going straight from stone tools to cars. |
22:01.19 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
22:01.37 | TetrisD | though the reason i dont like mentioning the different stages, though, is where do you put the middle ages? |
22:01.41 | DrodoEmpire | Also the way it portrays every group as technologically equal, more or less when we know that was never the case |
22:01.46 | DrodoEmpire | Well |
22:01.58 | DrodoEmpire | Where do you put 99% of recorded history more like |
22:02.29 | DrodoEmpire | Its the most incredibly brain-damaged abstraction of history I've ever witnessed- and I love Spore |
22:02.31 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
22:02.40 | TetrisD | then again, these days 99% of recorded history happened less than 5 seconds ago |
22:02.43 | OluapPlayer | It's a videogame aimed for young people tho |
22:02.52 | DrodoEmpire | I know |
22:03.18 | DrodoEmpire | Which means some of its game concepts don't translate well <.< |
22:03.29 | Monet | I blame EA for (and I don't like using this sort of phrasing often) babyfying the concept. |
22:03.31 | OluapPlayer | A game where your first sign of sapience involves a film reference and you throwing a stick at your own head |
22:03.51 | TetrisD | and banging it on a pile of leaves |
22:03.57 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, though we're getting off topic |
22:04.01 | OluapPlayer | That is the reference |
22:04.02 | DrodoEmpire | Continue, Tetris? |
22:04.08 | Monet | TBF Saints Row 3 begins with a Star Wars crawl to the very same music so *shrug* |
22:04.24 | DrodoEmpire | violently shoves Oluap and Monet in to #sporewiki-offtopic and throws away the ke |
22:04.25 | DrodoEmpire | *key |
22:04.30 | DrodoEmpire | >.> |
22:06.20 | TetrisD | so, basically, the raladin had their own version of Area 51, (dont know what to call it though), and around a couple million years later, when all life dies out, the security FINALLY fails, and the test subjects escape |
22:06.40 | DrodoEmpire | They survived in the installation that long? |
22:06.45 | DrodoEmpire | Were they preserved, or... |
22:06.49 | TetrisD | they were frozen |
22:06.54 | TetrisD | i guess |
22:06.56 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
22:07.01 | TetrisD | didnt really think of that part |
22:07.40 | TetrisD | but i guess you could argue that the nanotechnology in them made them biologically immortal |
22:07.54 | TetrisD | but i dont see how that would work |
22:07.58 | DrodoEmpire | Nanotechnology, at... what technological level? |
22:08.10 | DrodoEmpire | When did the Raladin destroy themselves? |
22:08.39 | TetrisD | im thinking its when they colonise nearby planets in their solar system |
22:08.55 | TetrisD | the colonies lose contact with the homeworld and die |
22:08.59 | DrodoEmpire | Right, so probably a few decades to a century ahead of the IRL modern day |
22:09.25 | TetrisD | but i dont think they would be able to make that kind of nanotech |
22:09.30 | DrodoEmpire | Nah, they couldn't |
22:10.04 | TetrisD | but they COULD if i use sci-fi logic |
22:10.12 | DrodoEmpire | But what they *could* have is advanced cryogenics ("freezing" stuff to preserve it) and, possibly, an incredibly reliable energy source |
22:10.15 | DrodoEmpire | No need |
22:10.30 | DrodoEmpire | Perhaps geothermal energy, I dunno |
22:11.13 | TetrisD | i could just talk about how they use dimensional field dampeners to gather the folds in the space-time... you know what? ive never been good at technobabble |
22:11.32 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... |
22:11.42 | DrodoEmpire | And why make something complicated when you can do the same thing much more simply |
22:11.47 | The_Randomness | ^ |
22:11.53 | Monet | Occam's razor ftw |
22:12.24 | DrodoEmpire | Scientists often have big ideas that make engineers go nuts over how stupidly impractical they are >.< |
22:12.36 | DrodoEmpire | As an example |
22:12.36 | Monet | You might need some form of technology to keep the base from breaking down into dust if we're talking two million years. |
22:12.41 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
22:12.50 | TetrisD | though, when a race becaomes about as advanced as the DCP, or Draconid Imperium, theyd probably quit freezing their people in ice and freeze them in time instead |
22:12.59 | DrodoEmpire | Well, no |
22:13.06 | TetrisD | but i dont think the raladin were ever that advanced |
22:13.16 | DrodoEmpire | Just because you can doesn't mean you should >.< |
22:13.22 | DrodoEmpire | Or its practical to |
22:13.36 | DrodoEmpire | And cryogenics =/= freezing in the conventional sense, there's a lot to it |
22:13.38 | Monet | And in this case we're talking practicality, not Jeff Goldblum's moral rant. |
22:14.19 | TetrisD | then again, id much prefer being frozen in time than ice, from my perspective, i leave as soon as i enter, and time doesnt cause frostbite |
22:14.27 | DrodoEmpire | Either way, cryogenically preserved specimens break out of an extremely ancient, abandoned facility (or what's left of it) after two-million or so years |
22:14.30 | Monet | You -could- suspend a subject is a stasis field, but why do so when cryogenic processing methods are so much more refined? |
22:14.43 | DrodoEmpire | What next? |
22:15.28 | TetrisD | well, after the test subjects escape, we fast forward to about 4.5 million years ago |
22:15.50 | DrodoEmpire | Alright... |
22:15.58 | TetrisD | the test subjects have evolved into an entire ecosystem |
22:16.22 | DrodoEmpire | So the subjects that were released repopulate the world with complex life? |
22:16.42 | TetrisD | i really hope my fiction isn't looking at this, cuz there gonna kill me if they find out im talking about it |
22:16.55 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
22:17.34 | TetrisD | around 4.5 million years ago is an era that is often met with distain, because, had it never happened, my fiction might have need ultraterrestrials by now |
22:17.47 | TetrisD | been* |
22:17.57 | TetrisD | been ultraterrestrials |
22:18.00 | DrodoEmpire | Well |
22:18.04 | DrodoEmpire | History's never so linear as that |
22:18.06 | DrodoEmpire | But go on |
22:19.20 | TetrisD | at this time, my fiction's ancestors, called the Quasi-Demons (PLEASE come up with a better name for these guys, because i cant) rome the surface of ceria |
22:20.09 | DrodoEmpire | (There're a few random name generators- or even use the name of an obscure mythical creature) |
22:20.22 | DrodoEmpire | (Maybe something from... Finnish legend, I dunno) |
22:20.48 | DrodoEmpire | (They've got a long pagan history, having been on the very edge of European civilisation for most of its history) |
22:21.01 | DrodoEmpire | (Should be interesting shit there) |
22:21.27 | TetrisD | anyway, the Grox Meta-empire finds what they believe to be an ultraterrestrial artifact on Ceria, so they send in a ship to investigate |
22:21.45 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm, okay |
22:22.02 | TetrisD | using radar, or something like that, of course, nobody dug it up yet |
22:23.09 | DrodoEmpire | Sensors yeah |
22:23.28 | TetrisD | well, this quasi-demon pack finds out about this ship, and, having not evolves sapience yet, don't know what to make of it |
22:23.40 | TetrisD | so they decide its a threat |
22:23.55 | DrodoEmpire | These are still animals by this point, yes? |
22:24.09 | TetrisD | and this is where we learn why the quasi-demons have the work "demon" in their names |
22:24.11 | TetrisD | yes |
22:24.29 | DrodoEmpire | Uh huh |
22:25.01 | TetrisD | but they are very close to sentience, close enough that one could see you firing a gun and understand what the hell your doing |
22:25.48 | TetrisD | abyway, they see these exploratory vessals |
22:25.52 | TetrisD | dammit |
22:26.02 | TetrisD | pushed enter at the wrong time |
22:26.56 | TetrisD | the quasi-demons see these exploratory vessals coming OUT of the hangar, so they decided they could invade the ship by going IN |
22:27.28 | DrodoEmpire | Why would a pack of roving animals do this? |
22:27.32 | DrodoEmpire | How would this be recorded? |
22:27.36 | TetrisD | at this point, they had decided the chip couldnt be a living thing and was probably a shelter of some king |
22:27.53 | DrodoEmpire | Is this directly relevant to the later history of this nation? |
22:28.00 | TetrisD | YES |
22:28.18 | DrodoEmpire | (We don't start a textbook on France with the evolution of homo sapiens, after all) |
22:28.38 | TetrisD | had this never happened, the daemonum would have been at least a hundred times more advanced and powerful than they are now |
22:28.42 | DrodoEmpire | (In fact, most world history books don't much bother to go back that far) |
22:28.51 | DrodoEmpire | Why? |
22:28.58 | DrodoEmpire | Well-- I'll find that out in a moment |
22:29.00 | DrodoEmpire | Go on |
22:30.21 | TetrisD | well, being extremely strong (they have to be to survive), and extremely agile (see "extremely strong"), and intelligent enough to use the grox's own fusion blasters against them, the quasi-demons quickly overwhelmed the guards |
22:31.19 | TetrisD | the security is in shock, and it takes them all of five minutes to lock down the sections of the ship that the demons now own |
22:31.29 | TetrisD | unfortunately, that includes the power core |
22:32.38 | TetrisD | they send in a conqrix squad to kill these quasi-demons, but they horribly fail (and some demons sneeked through the door while it was still open) |
22:32.56 | TetrisD | they reach the cockpit |
22:33.14 | TetrisD | by now, the grox are convinced that they need to glass this planet |
22:33.46 | TetrisD | unfortunately, they have one ship, and they only had enough time to fire one antimatter missile before they died |
22:34.03 | TetrisD | well, that antimatter missile is still something |
22:34.14 | DrodoEmpire | ...Why would they glass an entire planet for a relatively minor security breach on one docked ship? o.O |
22:34.44 | DrodoEmpire | The appropriate reaction would be send in a company of marines to secure the ship, or at most to destroy the compromised ship |
22:34.47 | TetrisD | with no one left to control the ship, it crashed into the ground, right into the missile's impact crater (which is now called the glowing depression) |
22:35.14 | TetrisD | lol |
22:35.15 | Monet | It's like laying waste to Europe over the devastation to Australia caused by rabbits. |
22:35.21 | TetrisD | the grox got cocky |
22:35.45 | DrodoEmpire | That's not a reason to glass an entire planet over a single ship getting breached by hostile wildlife |
22:35.52 | TetrisD | and the crox very well knew the WHOLE planet was inhabited by demons |
22:36.07 | DrodoEmpire | What do you mean, "demons"? |
22:36.15 | Monet | They could have jsut declared the planet a no-go zone. |
22:36.16 | TetrisD | the quasi-demons |
22:36.19 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
22:36.41 | Wormy_ | If I can't get Firebase to work I'll try Github |
22:36.41 | DrodoEmpire | What makes them demonic? |
22:36.50 | Technobliterator | That bit of web development isn't something I've done, sorry |
22:36.55 | TetrisD | nothing, they just SEEM demonis |
22:36.58 | Wormy_ | Alrighty |
22:37.13 | Monet | I'm not sure if the Grox believe in demons. |
22:37.24 | DrodoEmpire | Right, so hostile wildlife still isn't much of a reason to spend government resources glassing a planet |
22:37.28 | TetrisD | they didnt name these animals |
22:37.29 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: Good old SO, already getting downvoted |
22:37.54 | TetrisD | and they were mad that they got beat up by a bunch of animals |
22:38.08 | Wormy_ | Huh, downvoted? |
22:38.22 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: your post is already at -1 score |
22:38.26 | DrodoEmpire | ...That's still not a reason as to why any sort of high command would authorise the glassing of a planet |
22:38.40 | Wormy_ | I've noticed that SO is extremely strict |
22:38.57 | TetrisD | and also, rumor has it that someone from the future convinced them to do this |
22:39.04 | Monet | This history makes the Grox sound unbelievably insecure. |
22:39.06 | DrodoEmpire | That's really silly |
22:39.18 | Wormy_ | I've probably broken some subtle guideline |
22:39.21 | DrodoEmpire | You're making stuff up to justify a really silly chain of events |
22:39.23 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
22:39.24 | TetrisD | not at all |
22:39.27 | TetrisD | lol |
22:39.28 | Wormy_ | Or look like a complete n00b not worth the time |
22:39.38 | TetrisD | no, someone really did come from the future and do this |
22:39.48 | DrodoEmpire | That was your plan, the whole time? |
22:39.49 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
22:40.02 | TetrisD | he was a dude named Maladictus |
22:40.10 | TetrisD | and he was evil |
22:40.19 | DrodoEmpire | Sounds it... |
22:40.36 | TetrisD | expecially since maladictus is literally evil in latin |
22:40.47 | TetrisD | i think... |
22:41.42 | DrodoEmpire | I figure. But why would some 'evil' guy go back in time (???) and somehow influence a Grox captain or admiral to glass a world? |
22:42.04 | DrodoEmpire | There're more convincing ways to pull this idea off |
22:42.13 | DrodoEmpire | A gamma ray burst could damage the world' |
22:42.15 | Quark8 | It is actually "malus, -a -um"/ |
22:42.19 | Quark8 | *. |
22:42.33 | TetrisD | i needed only part of the world to be damaged... |
22:42.36 | Monet | "mal" being a Latin prefix to mean 'bad' |
22:43.05 | DrodoEmpire | *world's ecosystem, a grox ship could've glassed the world anyway to make way for a development project that never really began for whatever reason (red tape?), so on |
22:43.20 | DrodoEmpire | Or any nation could've glassed it |
22:45.13 | TetrisD | but the ultrateresstrial artifact in question was actually maladictus's soul trapped in a cryatal (but, because of the time travel problem, im not quite sure when he gets trapped and when he escapes) |
22:46.07 | TetrisD | but i know he did it to himself on purpous so escape his death in the hands of my fiction in the present |
22:46.47 | DrodoEmpire | This is all terribly convoluted |
22:46.48 | DrodoEmpire | But continue |
22:48.12 | TetrisD | the daemonum in the ship can't get out, so they survive on the military's rations (which keeps cloning itsself thanks to technology), and they fight eachother for control over the ship |
22:48.40 | TetrisD | they evolve great strength because anyone who can't break through a grox door cant find food and dies |
22:48.51 | TetrisD | woops, did i say daemonum? |
22:48.51 | DrodoEmpire | How does food |
22:48.57 | DrodoEmpire | *"keep cloning itself"? |
22:48.58 | DrodoEmpire | Yes |
22:49.09 | DrodoEmpire | And what, do they get stuck on the ship and evolve there? |
22:49.31 | TetrisD | 3D printer makes it using genetic material, we actually have that technology today in real life |
22:51.05 | TetrisD | lol ive never been good at explaining things, the story in my head is actually better than the one im failing to type |
22:52.17 | TetrisD | the "demons" in the ship evolve into centuar-like beings similar to the raladin, but with insectoid jaws instead of beaks, they are called the Megajaw |
22:53.00 | Monet | Wait how long are they stuck in this ship? |
22:53.08 | DrodoEmpire | Well, err, replicators in that sense still need materials to derive from |
22:53.19 | TetrisD | the megajaw are extremely strong, and are rumored to be able to outrun a bullet (that last part is false, of course, but its a rumor, so OBVIOUSLY the info is trustworthy) |
22:53.24 | DrodoEmpire | And why would they evolve to be centaurs on a cramped starship of all places? |
22:53.51 | TetrisD | they have to be able to run fast enough to break down a grox door |
22:53.56 | Wormy_ | Well my post got upvoted back 0, progress of a strange sort :P |
22:54.34 | Quark8 | But why the centaur-form for that (being half-horse and half-human doesn't necessarily = strong)? |
22:54.57 | TetrisD | they have to be fast AND strong to be able to break through grox armor |
22:55.34 | DrodoEmpire | Well |
22:55.40 | DrodoEmpire | A centaur-*ish* form could work |
22:56.23 | DrodoEmpire | Having strong legs capable of running fast would work, and having arms or hands capable of manipulating stuff in the complex starship environment would also be useful |
22:56.34 | Quark8 | True. |
22:56.49 | TetrisD | as for why there strong, its because normal muscles use about 1/3 of their fibers to avoid tearing, but megajaw muscles are reinforced with a kevlar-like fiber, but really light, so they can afford to use all their muscle mass without ripping it apart |
22:58.53 | DrodoEmpire | Hm. |
22:59.10 | Monet | That still raises A question of how centaur-like forms evolve on a starship. |
22:59.10 | TetrisD | the quasi-demons that weren't involved in the fight became weaker, but alot more intelligent |
22:59.51 | Quark8 | Yes, my glasses are finally read. Guess that I won't be almost half-blind after all. |
22:59.56 | Quark8 | ;) |
23:00.14 | Quark8 | *ready. |
23:00.21 | TetrisD | well, there has to be enough room for a centuar, after all theres enough room for a marinox, and marinoxs are bigger than megajaw |
23:01.16 | Monet | Yeah but a more compact body might be more flexible. |
23:01.49 | Monet | Also you mention Marinox. I'm not sure Marinox were part of the Grox forces 4 billion years ago. |
23:01.53 | TetrisD | but the "demons" that weren't involved stayed in their bird-like form (did i mention quasi-demons are bird-like?) |
23:02.37 | DrodoEmpire | Not sure the Grox were around 4bil years ago |
23:02.38 | DrodoEmpire | But meh |
23:02.48 | DrodoEmpire | We shouldn't be overly involved in realism, is the thing |
23:02.51 | DrodoEmpire | Still |
23:02.54 | TetrisD | 4 MILLION years, not BILLION |
23:02.57 | DrodoEmpire | It needs to be *possible* |
23:03.03 | DrodoEmpire | Chill |
23:03.08 | TetrisD | lol |
23:03.20 | DrodoEmpire | Well, really, chill out |
23:03.22 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
23:03.24 | TetrisD | i just noticed you thought it was 4 billion years |
23:03.44 | Monet | Million right. |
23:03.50 | Monet | Still might be too early for Marinox. |
23:04.17 | TetrisD | and yes, the grox were around for 6 billion years (how do i know? i can read, its in the grox empire page) |
23:04.59 | DrodoEmpire | Don't be a dickhead |
23:05.09 | Quark8 | ^ |
23:05.10 | TetrisD | sry |
23:05.23 | Xho | steamrekt |
23:05.29 | TetrisD | didnt think that would be rude |
23:05.50 | DrodoEmpire | Right, that's fine if you didn't mean it that way |
23:05.52 | Xho | Man I came in late on this conversation |
23:05.56 | DrodoEmpire | Sorry for that |
23:05.59 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway, right. |
23:06.06 | TetrisD | im assuming by now i ruined my sporewiki reputation forever? |
23:06.11 | DrodoEmpire | No, no |
23:06.13 | DrodoEmpire | You're good |
23:06.19 | DrodoEmpire | :> |
23:06.33 | Xho | You'd have to do a lot to be hated by everyone on the wiki |
23:06.38 | DrodoEmpire | (I have major gripes with overly long-lasting states to begin with, mind you, but anyway) |
23:07.14 | TetrisD | good... now i can continue with my SECRET EVIL PLAN... i mean... uh... i dont have a plan! nope, not at ALL |
23:07.30 | Quark8 | Uh huh :P |
23:08.51 | TetrisD | sry if im typing a little slow, i have a kitty in my lap |
23:08.59 | TetrisD | on* |
23:09.39 | DrodoEmpire | Nah, you're good |
23:10.26 | DrodoEmpire | brb |
23:10.43 | TetrisD | kk |
23:10.50 | Quark8 | Bye for now. |
23:11.54 | Monet | SO anyway. |
23:12.10 | Monet | I'm not sure how this connects with the modern fiction. |
23:12.47 | TetrisD | well, fast forward a couple million years, to about 25,000 years ago |
23:13.18 | TetrisD | the daemonum and megajaw both have technology comparable to near-future technology irl |
23:14.01 | TetrisD | the megajaw, however, cannot survive without the radiation from the glowing crater |
23:14.07 | TetrisD | they want to expand |
23:14.29 | TetrisD | so what do they do? |
23:14.35 | TetrisD | they nuke the area around them |
23:15.04 | TetrisD | they expand |
23:15.15 | TetrisD | nuke, expand, nuke, expand... |
23:15.27 | TetrisD | the daemonum start to get worried |
23:15.53 | TetrisD | if the megajaw keeps doing this, they will destroy the whole world |
23:16.00 | Monet | This is just my personal preferences - not a fan of magic radiation. |
23:16.10 | Monet | personally not a fan of magic radiation |
23:16.32 | TetrisD | its not "magic" radiation, just radiation |
23:17.14 | Monet | You've got a lifeform that'll die without regular exposure to ionising radiation. |
23:17.37 | Xho | ghouls m8 |
23:17.54 | TetrisD | they use the energy from it for their metabolism |
23:18.03 | TetrisD | its like us and oxygen |
23:18.20 | TetrisD | we die without air, which they would laugh at |
23:18.40 | Monet | Now we're getting into chemistry. |
23:19.11 | Monet | I've memorised the entire metabolic cycle, I know how the oxygen we inhale is used. |
23:19.47 | Monet | (now I probably sound like a dickhead but I like plausability) |
23:20.25 | TetrisD | inside the grox ship, the ventilation started acting like _______ (insert cuss work here), slowly spewing poison into the air (this is before the megajaw escaped the ship) |
23:20.33 | TetrisD | those who needed to breathe died |
23:20.50 | TetrisD | those who coule live without it, lived without it |
23:21.04 | TetrisD | natural selection |
23:21.17 | Monet | What if they took in the toxin anyway. |
23:22.15 | Monet | Sorry that's probably nitpicking. |
23:22.22 | TetrisD | they did, but they didnt actually "take it in", instead, their carpace is made of a special material that attracts these toxins so they may kill anyone stupid enough to bite or eat a megajaw |
23:23.02 | Monet | So the toxin gets absorbed by their shell, but doesn't seep into the bloodstream. |
23:23.17 | TetrisD | not really, no |
23:23.33 | TetrisD | but there are rare cases of this happening |
23:24.10 | TetrisD | these megajaw are basically a subspecies (like our "races") that have the ability to spit this poison at their enemies |
23:24.23 | Monet | Though it sounds like if you're going to eat a megajaw you need to pull off the carapace to reach the meat. |
23:24.27 | TetrisD | and they, themselves are immune to it (but other megajaw aren't) |
23:25.07 | TetrisD | their carpace is designed with spikes all over it to tear and shread the skin of anyone who may pull it off |
23:25.28 | TetrisD | then the poison gets in their bloodstream |
23:25.31 | TetrisD | then they die |
23:26.01 | Monet | I could tear it off with a crowbar :> |
23:26.36 | TetrisD | yeah, but not everyone in an ecosystem is sentient enough to know what a crowbar is |
23:26.52 | Monet | Okay fair enough. |
23:27.40 | TetrisD | aaand i just realised a reason why using this poison would be unplausible |
23:28.26 | Monet | I'd partially question how a non-apex species trapped in a large metal box is able to evolve sentience but this is fiction. |
23:28.47 | Monet | (oh wait they got out didn't they) |
23:29.06 | TetrisD | yeah |
23:29.18 | Monet | nvm then |
23:31.31 | TetrisD | well, 25,000 years ago, the megajaw and daemonum have tech comparible to near-future tech irl, and the megajaw are nuking the crap out of everything so they can expand without dying |
23:32.17 | Monet | Do you enjoy Godzilla by any chance? |
23:32.30 | TetrisD | nope, didnt watch it |
23:32.44 | Monet | None of the Godzilla films? |
23:32.53 | TetrisD | i did watch part of one |
23:33.03 | TetrisD | cabt remember which one |
23:33.15 | Monet | Did what you see relate to this idea? |
23:33.33 | TetrisD | no, dont think so |
23:34.07 | Monet | Just curious is all. |
23:34.48 | TetrisD | i ddoont thinkgajaw are big enough that they wouldnt be able to support their own weight |
23:35.03 | TetrisD | wow |
23:35.08 | TetrisD | horrible typo there |
23:35.25 | Monet | I was mostly curious because Godzilla is quite liberal with radiation. |
23:35.59 | TetrisD | but the megajaw are slightly bigger than a human riding on horseback |
23:36.17 | TetrisD | for this reason, ALL of their infantry are considered calvary |
23:36.27 | TetrisD | their mounts being their own bodies |
23:37.04 | Monet | Humans and many other animals do require some sunlight to produce a critical vitamin. The difference between normal sunlight and harmful radiation is harmful radiation breaks down tissue. |
23:37.40 | TetrisD | not when you add sci-fi logic into the mix, no (which i try not to do) |
23:38.06 | Monet | Come again? |
23:38.36 | Hachiman | Remember that one part of science fiction is the 'science' part |
23:39.17 | TetrisD | i doubt that star wars with their force is "science" fiction |
23:39.38 | Monet | That's because Star Wars is more accurately space fantasy. |
23:39.45 | TetrisD | in fact, george lucas himself said starwars is a "space fantasy" |
23:40.34 | Monet | So if George Lucas called Star Wars space fantasy why are you doubting Star Wars is science fiction? |
23:40.49 | TetrisD | because logic |
23:41.07 | TetrisD | and because i TOTALLY know what im talking about ALL the time |
23:41.13 | TetrisD | yeah no |
23:41.27 | Monet | Ionising radiation (UV rays, x-rays, gamma rays) gets its name from how it is powerful enough to knock electrons out of atoms. |
23:42.02 | TetrisD | welp, lemme go get my gamma ray gun |
23:42.04 | Monet | The resulting ionised particles are chemically unstable. |
23:43.27 | Xho | Hachiman: Somehow I've got myself into watching One Punch Man |
23:43.33 | TetrisD | methinks you could (theoretically, i guess) put a circut right in the way of the gamma ray burst and it would activate it |
23:43.35 | Hachiman | Nice |
23:43.40 | Hachiman | One Punch Man is hype asf |
23:43.43 | Xho | It's actually quite entertaining |
23:44.20 | Monet | TetrisD: Actually that is somewhat possible. |
23:44.30 | Monet | Somewhat. |
23:45.11 | Monet | If we're talking a GRB from a star then no, whatever shit gets in the way is going to be vapourised. |
23:45.42 | TetrisD | though it wouldnt create a flow of current, yanno why? |
23:46.19 | Monet | Because electricity does not flow that way? |
23:46.51 | TetrisD | because the word, "current" is used wrong |
23:47.07 | TetrisD | there is no such tning as a magical "stuff" called current |
23:47.35 | TetrisD | batteries do not supply "current" to the circut |
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23:47.47 | TetrisD | "current" does not flow through wires |
23:47.55 | TetrisD | hi |
23:49.00 | Monet | Electricity is created though the shunting of electrons down the wire. |
23:49.21 | TetrisD | but all wires already have electricity |
23:49.37 | Monet | "current" is a way of describing what is happening inside the wire. |
23:49.42 | TetrisD | all batteries do is act like a pump to get things moving |
23:50.59 | Monet | The "current" of a battery is as much a thing as the "current" of a river. It's not a solid thing, but it's there and it's what provides the movement of energy. |
23:51.27 | Monet | It's more of an active system than a thing. |
23:51.35 | TetrisD | another logic failure i found is me arguing about electricity in a spore IRC channel |
23:51.40 | TetrisD | lol |
23:52.47 | TetrisD | welp, im gonna throw some "current" at a megajaw |
23:52.57 | TetrisD | oh wait, that probably isnt a good idea |
23:53.00 | Monet | A good number of us here are either scientists in training or science enthusiasts. |
23:53.37 | TetrisD | :) |
23:54.35 | TetrisD | i think the field of science i specialise in is figuring out how technology in fiction could work in real life |
23:55.52 | Monet | That is a very, very broad field if we're using the dictionary term for 'technology' |
23:57.07 | TetrisD | OH CRAP, the megajaw i was about to throw my "current" at found abou... AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH R.I.P. TetrisD, died in a failed attempt to avoid becoming someone else's dinner |
23:58.31 | TetrisD | well, fortunately, we have Chronoscopic, so that incident never happend and oh crap... hes still ther-AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
23:58.42 | Monet | "technology" in the proper terminology includes biology, genetics, physics, engineering, materials study, chemistry, and possibly scientific fields we have yet to discover. |
23:58.57 | Monet | well, includes knowledge of. |
23:59.34 | TetrisD | id say i specialize in ogysics and engineering |
23:59.54 | TetrisD | and especially astrophysics |