00:44.30 | DrodoEmpire | test |
00:59.53 | DrodoEmpire | Liquid_Ink what's your fiction? |
01:00.01 | DrodoEmpire | I can't recall |
02:38.35 | DrodoEmpire | test |
02:45.07 | DrodoEmpire | "Julie outlined the difficulty of submitting bills to an insurance company in Cleveland when the dental clinic was in Thuringia and displaced four centuries in time." |
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06:58.48 | Liquid_Ink | IMPY |
06:58.52 | Liquid_Ink | Happy birthday |
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07:25.56 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink: Thanksio |
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11:42.05 | ImpyDroid | Hiya |
11:42.51 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
11:42.56 | OluapPlayer | Happy birthday |
11:44.02 | ImpyDroid | Yiy |
11:44.05 | ImpyDroid | Thanks ^^ |
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11:54.37 | Wormy_ | hi |
11:55.15 | Technobliterator | Happy birthday, ImpyDroid :o |
11:56.03 | Wormy_ | ooh, happy birthday |
12:46.28 | Tek0516 | https://youtu.be/TnzcwTyr6cE New Kurtzegatt (that name is hard. >.>) |
12:46.38 | Tek0516 | Kuzgesagt |
12:46.58 | Tek0516 | *Kurzgesagt |
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13:19.25 | Monet | Hello |
13:20.14 | Tek0516 | Hello Monet |
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13:20.56 | Tek0516 | Ugh, my bus is 15 minutes late *again*. |
13:21.10 | Tek0516 | Hello Monet2 |
13:22.10 | Tek0516 | So if a bus is consistently 10-15 minutes late every day is it really late or just poorly scheduled. >.> |
13:31.51 | Monet2 | Poorly scheduled probably |
13:38.04 | Wormy_ | Meanwhile, in China https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DanEWsQ-zxc |
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13:55.46 | Wormy_ | "If your hands look like this, the keyboard is the least of your problems" http://i.imgur.com/t5yTcWR.jpg |
13:56.57 | OluapPlayer | starfish fingers |
14:19.53 | Wormy_ | I agree with this assessment https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/53no20/on_exploration_and_no_mans_sky_why_no_mans_sky/ |
14:20.51 | Wormy_ | I was under the impression that environmentals and lifeforms would be contextual with each other (i.e. stocky creatures on high gravity planets), we were tol the game would have such filters |
14:22.07 | Wormy_ | It would have been cool if if my suit used more energy to walk on such planets for example |
14:25.24 | Wormy_ | I have a pipe dream of making a game with as complex dynamics as SimEarth |
14:25.37 | Monet2 | That might have required complex algorithms |
14:26.43 | Monet2 | Well, extra complex algorithms |
14:27.16 | Wormy_ | Would have needed more, but nothing radical. NMS does have filters, you'll find more of resource X on planet Y for example. And Space Engine seems to position everything rationally. |
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14:29.12 | Wormy_ | If I was to make a game like SimEarth, everything would have an explanatory context |
14:29.37 | Hachiman | Hi |
14:30.23 | Hachiman | If I was to make a game like SimEarth, I'd lie during promos about features it would have, use footage that isn't actually in the game, and vastly exaggerate its abilities and experience |
14:31.40 | OluapPlayer | Let's not |
14:31.40 | Wormy_ | One would make the planet, allow it to evolve based on the relative abundances of elements (so position in the solar system); perhaps have several of speculative biochemistry that might form on the planet, and then procedural generate life at each turn but with a rational context to its environment's characteristics |
14:33.17 | Wormy_ | It'd be Space Engine + SimEarth + Species: Alife |
14:34.00 | Wormy_ | A Spore space stage or NMS style exploration of other player's planets would be the cream of the cake |
14:34.28 | Wormy_ | for me |
14:34.58 | Wormy_ | Oh and it WILL have all the astronomical phenomena |
14:35.35 | Wormy_ | I was disappointed nebulae (as objects), supernoae and pulsars weren't included in the final Spore game |
14:36.31 | Wormy_ | But I'm a loooong way from coding complex algorithms |
14:38.06 | Wormy_ | But I'm beginning my Masters in Computer Science next week! |
14:39.32 | Monet2 | Sweet news! |
14:40.38 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
14:41.14 | Monet2 | Shiny |
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14:43.39 | Hachiman | Hi |
14:46.43 | Monet2 | Hello |
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14:53.44 | Wormy_ | I'm stuck for choice on optional modules |
14:55.09 | Wormy_ | Modules on agents, AI, simulations and info visualisation particuarly interest me but now so is the module on computational complexity theory |
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15:18.29 | Wormy_ | Its quite a somber article when a group of researchers move therir digital archaeology mission to the question of "what happens to a universe that is abandoned" http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/no-mans-sky-archaeology-1.3768986 |
15:18.36 | dino82_ | hi |
15:22.39 | Imperios | Hiya mates |
15:24.25 | Technobliterator | hi imp |
15:24.31 | Technobliterator | happy birthday, yo |
15:28.05 | Wormy_ | Hachiman, Monet2: http://imgur.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/jwZ99 |
15:28.57 | Wormy_ | Stephen Baxter almost fortold NMS hur |
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15:30.40 | Treebeard | Hello |
15:33.19 | Imperios | Technobliterator: Thx |
15:33.41 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: that image doesn't exist. :/ |
15:34.39 | Wormy_ | Tek: Try http://i.imgur.com/ABxsZks.jpg |
15:35.19 | Tek0516 | Huh |
15:42.56 | Tek0516 | I've recently really started reading sci-fi again. Used to read a lot of it but just didn't have much since I started university, but I got the next books in a series for my dad earlier. Read more this month than I had in most of the past year. XD |
15:44.15 | dino82_ | Hi1 |
15:44.44 | Tek0516 | Hey dino |
15:49.51 | Wormy_ | Been reading Dragon's Egg by Robert Forward and Clockwork Rocket by Greg Egan |
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15:53.26 | NeonPanda | hi all |
15:54.17 | Treebeard | Hello |
15:54.24 | Tek0516 | The series I'm reading now is Fleet of Worlds by Larry Niven. |
15:54.33 | Tek0516 | Hello NeonPanda |
15:57.14 | Imperios | Hiya Panda |
15:57.26 | Imperios | NeonPanda: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Waltzing_Matilda |
15:58.59 | Imperios | "Reasons for the strong empathy Australians feel for this song include: It's easy to remember while drunk It makes fun of homeless people It makes fun of the police It has a sheep in it" |
15:59.48 | NeonPanda | not entirely far off |
15:59.52 | NeonPanda | the page that is |
15:59.57 | NeonPanda | not the part you just put up |
16:00.40 | NeonPanda | it's mostly just because it's one of the relatively few things we can generally call "Australian" |
16:05.33 | Imperios | Is that because it is incomprehensible to everyone else? |
16:12.59 | NeonPanda | to be fair, that applies to basically anything from any culture |
16:13.21 | NeonPanda | and no, it's because it was written by a bush poet |
16:18.43 | Imperios | Wormy_: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Northern_Ireland |
16:18.57 | Hachiman | Imperios: wryyyyd doctrina |
16:19.03 | Imperios | rightio |
16:21.01 | Imperios | IN THEIR TONGUE |
16:21.03 | Imperios | HE'S PYRATH |
16:21.16 | Imperios | DRAGONBORN |
16:22.04 | Hachiman | u shudnt b at dat part yet |
16:22.10 | Hachiman | ur reedin 2 quickly |
16:22.15 | Imperios | Behold the art of skimming |
16:22.27 | Hachiman | dunt skim when it took dis much work u fukn niggo |
16:23.01 | Imperios | I'll just skim it two times |
16:23.09 | Imperios | Basically the same as normal reading |
16:23.38 | Imperios | I mean most of that text is just detailed purple prose hur |
16:23.53 | Hachiman | ;-; |
16:24.23 | Hachiman | I suffer from the fact I don't know how to balance prose |
16:25.01 | Imperios | And speaking of prose |
16:25.03 | Imperios | "Y-Ya won't... even tell me the cause ya k-killed him for...! " |
16:25.07 | Imperios | That sentence feels unnatural |
16:25.17 | Imperios | "tell me why ya killed him" would sound a lot better |
16:25.30 | Imperios | Sorry for being a nitpicking grammarnazi hur |
16:25.41 | Hachiman | "W-What has he ever done... to d-deserve to die, eh?! W-What has any of us done?! ... A-Answer me!" |
16:26.03 | Hachiman | So he did ask your nitpicker |
16:26.07 | Hachiman | *you |
16:26.17 | Imperios | No I mean |
16:26.30 | Imperios | THat sentence's structure sounds unnatural |
16:26.40 | Hachiman | Right |
16:26.42 | Imperios | I am talking about the choice of words in that particular sentence |
16:26.46 | Imperios | Not the overall storyline |
16:27.02 | Imperios | "Tell me the cause you killed him for" sounds weird |
16:27.07 | Wormy_ | Tek0516: Is that in the Ringworldverse? |
16:27.40 | Imperios | Also Hungarian name elf is a dick |
16:27.47 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: Yeah, the main plot takes place around 200 years before the Ringworld novels if I recall. |
16:27.49 | Imperios | Eastern European name elf |
16:27.59 | Wormy_ | Pierson's Puppeteers had a fleet of worlds in Ringworld |
16:28.15 | Hachiman | Szalvetha is a dick yes hur |
16:28.38 | Imperios | Either Hungarian or Polish |
16:28.55 | Tek0516 | Yeah, the Fleet of Worlds in that series is the same as this one. The series is set primarily in and around the Fleet itself. |
16:29.04 | Imperios | Actually wait do you pronounce it the Polish way or the Hungarian way? |
16:29.17 | Imperios | "Sal-ve-tha" or "Shal-ve-tha"? |
16:29.29 | Hachiman | The former for myself, personally |
16:29.50 | Wormy_ | Imperios: I love how accurate this is http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Nottingham |
16:29.52 | Imperios | So the Hungarian way |
16:30.09 | Imperios | Szalvetha hates dem refugees |
16:30.41 | Imperios | >sometimes spelled Robbin' Hoody in earlier texts |
16:32.32 | Imperios | Overall |
16:32.36 | Imperios | That was kind of cool |
16:32.43 | Imperios | IT had that Red Wedding-kind of feel |
16:32.53 | Imperios | Red WEdding + Deathly Hallows |
16:33.31 | Hachiman | Thanks |
16:34.30 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: The basic concept for the series is that centuries before the Puppeteers had captured a human colony ship, grew the embryos they had in storage, and made essentially a slave/servant human colony for the Fleet. |
16:35.43 | Wormy_ | In Ringworld, it was revealed that the Puppeteers were quietly engineering generations of species |
16:38.23 | Wormy_ | Imperios: "Radford - Statiscally, you have a greater chance of meeting an unnatural death here by standing outside the KFC than anywhere else in the country." Well, I got stung be a bee on the neck's jugular region in the urban jungle |
16:38.40 | Tek0516 | Yeah, it seems this contains some foreshadowing (though I'm not sure if that's started yet) to that. |
16:39.24 | Tek0516 | One of the main characters is the Puppeteer Nessus, also from Ringworld (only 200 years older presumably). |
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16:41.08 | Wormy_ | Is Nessus any less cowardly? |
16:41.10 | Wormy_ | Hi |
16:41.59 | Imperios | >The weather in Iraq is generally Sunni in the north and Shite in the south, with some Kurdstorms in the f |
16:42.22 | Treebeard | Hello |
16:43.23 | Tek0516 | Actually the one part I found interesting with the second book in the series is that a lot of things I (having read no other books in that universe) assumed were new concepts introduced for the series were actually established by the writer decades before. Much of the book is even apparently essentially several other stories told from the perspective of a |
16:43.23 | Tek0516 | minor character in the universe. |
16:44.26 | Wormy_ | That's good |
16:44.29 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: Nah, they're all pretty cowardly. And most of the ones we actually see are the ones considered borderline "insane" for being less cowardly, with Nesss being one of the least so. |
16:45.05 | Wormy_ | He suffered such an extreme exposure to fears in Ringworld (I won't spoil),, it'd be a shame if he didn't toughen up |
16:45.12 | Wormy_ | But he was very cowardly in Ringworld |
16:45.47 | Wormy_ | Wait 200 years before |
16:46.09 | Hachiman | Imperios: So apparently GW made an entire army list in 1991 for a Genestealer Cult which had turned to Chaos |
16:46.18 | Tek0516 | Yes, around 200 years before. |
16:46.21 | Imperios | I've heard of it |
16:46.28 | Hachiman | http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/09/genestealer-cult-chaos-awesome.html |
16:47.40 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: Actually exactly 200 years. Ringworld begins in 2850, the first book in Fleet of Worlds is primarily set in 2650. |
16:47.52 | Tek0516 | (According to a quick search) |
16:48.09 | OluapPlayer_ | jeanstealers |
16:48.28 | Wormy_ | I'll have to give it a read |
16:48.30 | Wormy_ | bbl |
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16:59.34 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: Did Ringworld show much from non-humans? Probably half the book is from the perspective of various non-humans so I'm curious if that was also the case there |
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17:20.44 | Wormy_ | Tek0516: Only two of the main characters were human |
17:21.40 | Wormy_ | I think it did dip into the perspecties of other characters but was mainly from a human one |
17:24.49 | Tek0516 | It's mostly here's quite a bit from several puppeteers, and this book has a few chapters from the perspective of a couple other aloens that pop up |
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17:37.11 | Cyrannian | Hi everyoe |
17:37.15 | OluapPlayer_ | ~kick Cyrannian |
17:37.15 | infobot | ACTION kicks Cyrannian |
17:37.20 | Cyrannian | ~tickle OluapPlayer_ |
17:37.20 | infobot | ACTION jumps on OluapPlayer_, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
17:37.23 | Charles_Bot | Hey Cyra |
17:42.19 | Tek0516 | Hello |
17:42.24 | dino82_ | hi |
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17:50.44 | OluapPlayer_ | sponge |
17:51.11 | Xho | SDFGH |
17:51.11 | Cyrannian | hai |
17:51.34 | OluapPlayer_ | write xi'arazulha intro for borewar pls |
17:51.41 | Hachiman | Xho: doctrina dun got an update |
17:51.41 | Xho | gimme paeg |
17:51.49 | Xho | Either or |
17:52.16 | Hachiman | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Doctrina_Venefica#4.2F12.2F34:_A_Massacre... |
17:52.22 | Hachiman | Fuck sake |
17:52.25 | Xho | kek |
17:52.28 | Xho | I found the page anyway |
17:52.35 | dino82_ | Rambo Nation arrives in Borealis!: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Captain%27s_log#Part_2:_Ancient_Ship |
17:52.38 | Hachiman | a masaka |
17:52.58 | OluapPlayer_ | yes that too |
17:53.33 | Xho | So you know it should be 'en masse' rather than 'en mass' |
17:53.43 | Hachiman | I must have missed an e |
17:53.47 | Xho | RLY |
17:54.17 | Hachiman | Honestly Titanpad pissed me off so much last night I forgot to proofread |
17:54.26 | Hachiman | I'll go over that in a bit |
17:54.42 | Cyrannian | Very nice dino |
17:55.16 | Hachiman | Aye, interesting stuff |
17:55.41 | dino82_ | :D |
17:55.50 | dino82_ | Used the original image of the Hyperborea |
18:03.40 | Xho | Hachiman OluapPlayer: Is that a water elemental attacking |
18:04.14 | Xho | OR A SHARKNADO |
18:04.36 | Hachiman | It's the familiar of the undine assassin that appeared in the "29/10/34: Land Shark" section |
18:05.00 | Xho | Ah yes |
18:05.07 | Xho | but it's now SHARKNADO |
18:05.20 | Hachiman | yee |
18:16.28 | Cyrannian | brb dinner |
18:18.47 | Xho | Nice section tho |
18:18.50 | Xho | lotsa ded |
18:19.05 | OluapPlayer_ | this was supposed to be a story about cute schoolgirls |
18:19.11 | OluapPlayer_ | instead i got sharknado |
18:19.48 | Xho | Caligaduro - u live and learn or die in this case HOOOOOOOOOH |
18:24.32 | Charles_Bot | I'm on a bus |
18:24.33 | Charles_Bot | Alone |
18:24.40 | Charles_Bot | And the key is in the ignition |
18:24.46 | Charles_Bot | I could just take this bus |
18:24.50 | Charles_Bot | And drive away |
18:25.18 | Xho | To wonderland |
18:25.22 | Xho | Or New Jersey |
18:25.26 | Xho | Take your pick |
18:25.34 | Charles_Bot | New Jersey |
18:25.36 | Charles_Bot | It's closer |
18:25.37 | Xho | egad |
18:25.57 | Charles_Bot | NEW JOYSEY |
18:52.20 | Cyrannian | Night guys |
18:56.04 | Wormy_ | According to google: Hanging Gardens of Babylon > "Hours: Closed Today" ...No shit |
18:59.44 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: Open on Friday though |
18:59.52 | Wormy_ | Reviews: "a mess, but a peace of history" "It's nice and all, but in the end you're just paying to see a bunch of plants. I could walk through my back yard and do that for free. " "Smells like Watermelon" |
19:05.31 | Wormy_ | ". There is a guy at the gate calls himself Nebuchadnezzar II who will try and charge you 2 dinars to get in, but you can barter with him and he will accept a gourd as trade. (" |
19:07.43 | Wormy_ | "He says i must give it 5 stars on trip advisor because thats how he got into the top 7 wonders of the ancient world. I tried but trip advisor said it doesnt exist so im not sure what to do about that. " |
19:07.57 | Wormy_ | yay time travel |
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19:18.33 | dino82_ | grmbl conneciton issuees |
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19:31.35 | Luxor | late evening' |
19:32.35 | Luxor | So proud of this one: http://imgur.com/a/dNiDC |
19:33.12 | Xho | noice |
19:33.33 | Luxor | Best thing I've made since I started playing spore |
19:33.41 | Xho | It is good |
19:33.46 | Luxor | 'Behold' |
19:34.22 | Wormy_ | superb work |
19:35.07 | Wormy_ | Might be suitable on one of SporeWiki's galactic trade networks |
19:35.23 | Luxor | I'll share item save in Numen Aerospace page on FU. |
19:35.32 | Luxor | 'Best Spacecraft in Cyrannus' |
19:35.40 | Luxor | Feel free to use under... payment. |
19:35.45 | Xho | OluapPlayer Technobliterator: I'm remaking the generic Xi'Arazulha model btw |
19:35.55 | OluapPlayer | Right |
19:36.13 | Technobliterator | Sure thing |
19:36.28 | Technobliterator | Add intro plz |
19:37.36 | Xho | MAKING MODEL FIRST |
19:37.51 | Xho | Might make picture as well |
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19:56.32 | dino82_ | @luxyor: Very nice! |
19:59.23 | Luxor | my bed calls, cya |
20:12.03 | dino82_ | ye bye |
20:19.03 | Xho | Technobliterator: Where's the Taldar png |
20:19.53 | Technobliterator | Creature:Taldar |
20:20.02 | Technobliterator | I think? |
20:20.03 | Technobliterator | I might be wrong |
20:20.17 | Technobliterator | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:High_Taldar.png |
20:21.10 | Wormy_ | I'm worried about Vsauce, this was when he was last seen https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QMh6PGPx6yc/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=196&h=110&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=hBR8k6WbnUX2Ovv7WpU_iiX6x5k |
20:21.38 | Xho | dat ol png |
20:21.43 | DrodoAway | Wormy_: hur |
20:25.52 | Xho | Man we need a new Taldar model |
20:26.08 | Xho | This was made 7th April 2010 |
20:26.13 | DrodoAway | Jeez |
20:27.26 | Xho | Volzara was made 9th November 2010 |
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20:43.44 | Technobliterator | I'm not really worried about how old the model is if it looks fine |
20:44.05 | Technobliterator | No one has complained about the Taldar look in forever, so I assumed no one had a problem with it |
20:45.38 | Xho | Not saying it's bad |
20:45.44 | Xho | It's just mega, mega old |
20:54.17 | Technobliterator | Mhm, I'm not worried about it if it's not a bad model |
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20:56.42 | Hachiman | Hi |
21:02.36 | Monet_2 | Hi |
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21:16.23 | Quark8 | Hello. |
21:36.12 | Xho | OluapPlayer Technobliterator: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/7e/RizeoftheXiArazulha.png/revision/latest?cb=20160921213526 film style poster because why the hell not |
21:36.29 | Technobliterator | niiiice |
21:36.45 | OluapPlayer | Interesting |
21:39.16 | Xho | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/e5/XiArazulha2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20160921213850 And the actual Xi'Arazulha model |
21:42.01 | Xho | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/fd/ViNavitum2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20160221223030 And then compare to the Vi'Navitum |
21:42.43 | Technobliterator | Looks awesome :o |
21:43.57 | OluapPlayer | They look equally malevolent |
21:44.06 | Xho | Krath - thanx |
21:45.59 | Xho | The Vi'Navitum are almost definitely a spawn of the Xhodocto, obviously not a very obedient spawn |
21:46.18 | Xho | The Xi'Arazulha was more or less Angazhar's impression to correct that mistake |
21:48.34 | Xho | Another theory is that they were pre-god like the Taldar and the Xhodocto decided to do an experiment on them |
21:52.14 | Xho | But more likely a disobedient spawn |
21:52.18 | Xho | I dunno |
21:57.24 | Xho | OluapPlaying: Thinking about Maryah's name |
21:57.41 | Xho | You could make it a shortened down part of a bigger name |
21:58.27 | OluapPlayer | That'd require a fair amount of retconning since everyone ever has called her Maryah |
21:58.38 | OluapPlayer | im not even playin |
21:58.49 | Xho | I suck as this nomenclature game |
21:58.54 | Xho | Or English in general |
22:02.01 | Xho | Well you just have to add it to her official name and boom no one knows the wiser |
22:02.03 | Xho | Except Maryah |
22:02.05 | Xho | :v |
22:02.31 | Hachiman | You could just get Jo's bot to retcon all mention of Maryah's name |
22:03.24 | Xho | epic doi |
22:05.30 | OluapPlayer | I could |
22:05.42 | OluapPlayer | But the name has already been around for years |
22:06.10 | Hachiman | So was Antediluvian until he became Tyrone |
22:06.26 | OluapPlayer | Yeah and I was never a fan of that change hur |
22:06.48 | Xho | It still throws me |
22:06.55 | Technobliterator | I've had trouble with bots all day |
22:06.59 | Xho | Okay fair enough that makes sense |
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22:08.22 | OluapPlayer | Though if I do rename her it'd be a major change in the style of Anteddy -> Tyrone |
22:08.26 | Charles_Murray | Tek0516 Quark8 Monet_2 DrodoAway Wormy_ How to tell your professor you didn't understand jack shit in the reading |
22:08.30 | Charles_Murray | "Unlike with the works of White and Novice, whose prose was straightforward and whose stated meaning and purpose was immediately clear, I am having a lot of trouble with Foucault. The Archeology of Knowledge feels more like a puzzle to be decrypted than a cohesive methodological mode dâemplois, requiring structure diagrams, terminology keys, lots of guesswork, and knowledge of other languages to understand even in a surf |
22:08.51 | Charles_Murray | "In the time that I had, I endeavored to do my best in this. And so here goes: my first Précis." |
22:09.10 | Charles_Murray | (That's how I'm prefacing the assignment I should have turned in an hour ago >.<) |
22:10.32 | OluapPlayer | Goddamn bored though |
22:10.37 | OluapPlayer | Nothing to do now |
22:14.02 | Xho | xi'arazulha intro pls |
22:14.21 | Technobliterator | Wasn't that your job |
22:14.21 | Technobliterator | :V |
22:14.27 | Xho | nope.avi |
22:14.34 | OluapPlayer | Yes it is |
22:14.36 | Technobliterator | I'm pretty sure it was your job |
22:14.37 | Technobliterator | :o |
22:15.06 | Technobliterator | They just need to come in menacingly and look for the Ottzello Sector |
22:15.17 | Technobliterator | also to go "lol fuck Zargoth I'll kill this galaxy whenever I feel like it" |
22:15.27 | OluapPlayer | That comes later |
22:15.58 | Technobliterator | Well, by going into the galaxy now, they're already going against what he asked |
22:16.05 | Technobliterator | He asked for them to hold off until he gives the signal |
22:51.53 | Quark8 | https://www.politicalcompass.org/yourpoliticalcompass?ec=-3.13&soc=-2.92 - Turns out I'm more centrist than I thought. |
22:56.50 | Tek0516 | Quark8: Are you American? |
22:56.56 | Quark8 | Aye. |
22:57.49 | Tek0516 | Probably why. On that scale even most major Democrats are on the right. |
22:59.19 | Tek0516 | https://www.politicalcompass.org/images/usprimaries2016.png Like this map of primary candidates for example |
23:00.15 | Monet_2 | How come Aaerican politics is so right-wing? |
23:00.19 | Monet_2 | American* |
23:01.22 | Tek0516 | I know there's a reason but I forget why exactly |
23:01.45 | Monet_2 | Was it related to communism? |
23:02.58 | Tek0516 | Possibly, but I don't think that was all of it. |
23:04.14 | Monet_2 | Bernie's over there but here in the UK that's pre-Blair Labour. |
23:05.12 | Tek0516 | https://www.politicalcompass.org/canada2015 Even by Canadian standards according to this Clinton is closer to the conservatives |
23:06.08 | Wormy_ | this is what makes choosing parties difficult tbh https://www.politicalcompass.org/images/enPartiesTime.gif |
23:07.57 | Monet_2 | The War on Terror had a fair hand in making everyone more jumpy over matters of security. |
23:09.06 | Tek0516 | My assumption is it has to do with when the Democrats abd Republicans essentially flipped which one was liberal and conservative. |
23:09.09 | Technobliterator | More corporate control over everything, more of a scare against left-wing politics |
23:09.52 | Technobliterator | But it's a slowly reversing trend |
23:10.06 | Tek0516 | Anti-socialist and free market/corporatist politics are probably a lot of the driving factors behind it. |
23:11.14 | Technobliterator | But mostly just corporations bribing politicians |
23:12.44 | Monet_2 | Eh, I wonder if lobbying has both good and bad sides to it |
23:13.03 | Monet_2 | The 'bribery' is more public, for one. |
23:13.12 | Wormy_ | I think there was a huge movement in British and American politics in the 90's and early 2000's towards neoliberalism, some leading politicians became sold on the idea that the markets can regulate themselves and that their own social regulation would bring on barriers to the free market stability. This relates to the ideology of negative freedom |
23:14.06 | Technobliterator | It doesn't matter that the bribery's public, almost all laws written are written by big money, and will only ever benefit big money |
23:14.15 | Monet_2 | I have a slight concern for this idea that when NGOs lobby governments, it's donations, when corporations lobby governments it's bribery. |
23:15.11 | Technobliterator | Because one is a non-profit organization and the other is not? |
23:15.32 | Monet_2 | They're both paying politicians to push their agendas. |
23:16.35 | Technobliterator | I have absolutely no problem with an NGO coming along donating to politicians if it genuinely believes "build more oil factories, make it difficult to build green energy around here". If it believes that, if it can gather donations for that cause and represent people who support that cause, sure. |
23:16.55 | Technobliterator | But if a big oil company does it? It's obviously doing it to protect its own interests rather than the public |
23:17.30 | Technobliterator | It's just screwing the public over by letting their air be polluted because of the short term profits of big oil companies, which is bullshit |
23:18.36 | Monet_2 | These corporations do have to get their money form somewhere don't forget. |
23:19.04 | Technobliterator | And it's easy for them to do that if they can get government to write anti-competitive laws for them |
23:19.13 | Monet | And yeah, some charities aren't above squandering donation money. |
23:19.32 | Technobliterator | Recently, AT&T filed a lawsuit against Google Fiber operating in a certain village |
23:19.47 | Technobliterator | There was no reason for it, it was just that Google Fiber offered a better internet service for a much cheaper price |
23:20.01 | Technobliterator | they just wanted to slow it down so they could lock more people into AT&T with long-term plans |
23:20.06 | Monet | And did AT&T win? |
23:20.16 | Technobliterator | Nope, they lost, but it didn't matter |
23:20.24 | Technobliterator | They delayed Google Fiber expanding in the area |
23:20.29 | Technobliterator | Which is all they were trying to gain |
23:20.52 | Monet | They're free to file a lawsuit. It just won't hold up i ncourt. |
23:21.30 | Technobliterator | It didn't, but it slowed down competition long enough that it can vendor lock its customers |
23:22.13 | Technobliterator | This is why corporatocracy is ridiculous, it never benefits the average person, just filthy rich people trying to get even richer |
23:23.02 | Wormy_ | Its the politics of power, which unfortunately apply everywhere |
23:26.06 | Wormy_ | Like I said, neoliberal politicians might dream of a society free'd from political interference, but all it does it sell that power to capitalists and lock people into newer forms of inequality. |
23:26.17 | Technobliterator | I don't mind holding right wing points of view, the issue I have is that most right wing politicians are not even right wing |
23:26.23 | Technobliterator | They're just pro-big money |
23:26.44 | Technobliterator | Believing in free markets, capitalism, limited regulation, that's cool |
23:26.46 | Monet | Politics has long been backed by the wealthy. MPs may be getting paid something like £74,000 a year but that's sorta middle-high-income bracket |
23:26.57 | Wormy_ | No, I think many genuinely believe or believed those ideologies, but uncritically. |
23:27.02 | Monet | There are plenty of jobs out there that earn more than working as an MP. |
23:27.03 | Technobliterator | But most of these policies are against free markets |
23:27.10 | Wormy_ | And so gave us the mess |
23:27.21 | Technobliterator | I'm not sure how much the Republicans believe their rhetoric |
23:27.25 | Technobliterator | Or at least, the federal ones |
23:27.43 | Technobliterator | They talk about small government all the time, yet it's Republican presidents that increase spending far more |
23:27.49 | Technobliterator | often on things like wars |
23:28.06 | Technobliterator | and then cut taxes at the same time, never actually balancing the budget |
23:28.10 | Wormy_ | And also the dissatisfaction people have about politicians. People don't trust they can create change because they have rejected such regulation in front of our eyes on the media for the last two decades. |
23:28.42 | Monet | Ever since Bill Clinton, politics has become more and more a performance act. |
23:28.51 | Technobliterator | Yup |
23:29.05 | Technobliterator | While Bill Clinton was mostly a good president, he repealed Glass Steagall, which was awful |
23:29.23 | Wormy_ | Monet: Something that might interest you, I;m starting to think politicians should start popularising their ability to change the world again |
23:29.41 | Monet | Al Gore - he was a head of his time on climate change, but he was kinda boring compared to Dubyah. |
23:29.47 | Technobliterator | mhm |
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23:30.18 | Technobliterator | hi ty |
23:30.21 | Monet | And because he was boring, he disappeared. |
23:30.23 | Monet | Hi |
23:31.30 | Quark8 | Hey Tybunsen. |
23:31.55 | Tybusen | Hello |
23:32.13 | Tybusen | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Kazari_Selfar New character if anyone's interested |
23:33.49 | Quark8 | I saw, and me likely. |
23:34.43 | Monet | Wormy_: The main obstacle is many great schemes to change the world aren't good for staying in office. |
23:36.48 | Wormy_ | I dunno, before the neoliberal revolution many politicians promised utopian myths about the future and strong social and economic regulation |
23:37.58 | Wormy_ | It might not be now, because a lot of that failed to deliver and of course many politicians became more right economically |
23:39.20 | Wormy_ | I guess since they have failed, we might be seeing the rise of populists like Farage and Trump, or Corbyn on the left |
23:41.03 | Wormy_ | Failed - That is, their theory of self-stabilising markets crashed and burned horribly, and the conjecture I have that the public may not trust politicians because politicians have promoted neoliberal concepts |
23:45.51 | Monet | Farage, Trump and Corbyn are selling the world-changer-leader persona you want leaders to pick up again |
23:46.19 | Monet | How true they are to what they say however is another point entirely |
23:47.51 | Wormy_ | That's what makes me uncomfortable about it, and yet it might help diversify the political arena. |
23:49.03 | Monet | It worked for Tony Blair. |
23:51.33 | Wormy_ | Yes, I guess politicians in favour of neoliberalism at the time of Blair, including himself, charmed a great many people with these economic concepts but through exactly the same use of persona |
23:53.41 | Wormy_ | Basically there's two powerful ideas of liberty, positive and negative; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Concepts_of_Liberty |
23:53.55 | Wormy_ | in force in politics |
23:55.12 | Wormy_ | The former is the freedom to act upon one's own will and transform themselves or society; and then the latter is a kind that attempts eliminate interference generated by others |
23:55.55 | Wormy_ | Followed to their extremes, both probably lead to absurdity. And there are probably better explanations of freedom; but all that aside these remain powerful ideas |
23:56.27 | Wormy_ | Generally positive freedom became feared during the Soviet era |
23:58.10 | Wormy_ | Influentions theorised it implied dangerous coercive forces |
23:58.17 | Wormy_ | *influentials |
23:59.54 | Monet | Of course |