00:03.39 | Monet | Coming back as a demon must have scored him faith points to any Dominion cultist who knew of him when he was alive. |
00:05.48 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki%3AFiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#.E2.80.A2LIVE:_Silvan_Raids_Intensify_on_New_Aratacia - I know some new people have joined since I last posted this |
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00:05.57 | DrodoEmpire | Hey Wormy |
00:06.09 | Wormy__ | hi |
00:06.33 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki%3AFiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#.E2.80.A2LIVE:_Silvan_Raids_Intensify_on_New_Aratacia Just posted this as you came on with a new nick >.< |
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00:12.47 | Wormy_ | Cyrannian|STO: No more STO tonight, it gon baad |
00:12.57 | Wormy_ | Cyrannian|Away |
00:13.10 | DrodoEmpire | What happened? |
00:13.18 | Cyrannian|Away | oh dere |
00:13.21 | Wormy_ | keeps freezing my computer |
00:13.33 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
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00:16.45 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
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00:19.08 | DrodoEmpire | hi |
00:22.09 | Dinolion92 | Hi |
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00:33.17 | Quark8 | Hello. |
00:35.43 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
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01:59.33 | Dinolion92 | Hi |
02:00.40 | Quark8 | Hello Dinolion92. |
02:27.19 | Wormy_ | DrodoEmpire http://imgur.com/gallery/84Lrk |
02:27.46 | DrodoEmpire | Aren't far-left activists fun? :p |
02:27.58 | DrodoEmpire | Hell, aren't decentralised social movements in general fun? |
02:30.43 | Wormy_ | lol |
02:31.53 | The_Randomness | wouldn't say that's representative of BLM though, even if there are some particularly vocal assholes like that that support the movement |
02:32.12 | DrodoEmpire | I hear that all the time and its false |
02:32.51 | DrodoEmpire | And it doesn't matter anyway- if its a minority of a movement being violent and rowdy and the rest don't do it, the "silent majority" don't much matter |
02:32.52 | DrodoEmpire | In fact |
02:33.07 | DrodoEmpire | they contribute to the problem by not casting these clowns out of the movement and denouncing them |
02:33.11 | DrodoEmpire | BLM |
02:33.13 | The_Randomness | yeah |
02:33.17 | The_Randomness | you are right there |
02:33.48 | DrodoEmpire | *BLM's a decentralised movement, open to everyone- it was started, I'm sure, by well-meaning people but on shaky grounds to begin with and was taken over by far-left, regressive fascists |
02:34.39 | The_Randomness | When you mentioned far-left stuff, I was suddenly reminded of that hideous piece of Marxist propaganda that I told you about a while ago lol |
02:34.44 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
02:34.49 | The_Randomness | Which was the second worst thing I've ever read |
02:34.50 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... >.< |
02:35.07 | The_Randomness | second-worst because it had the decency to make me hate it less than one page in |
02:35.19 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
02:35.21 | The_Randomness | Unlike GoT |
02:35.23 | DrodoEmpire | What was the first most- |
02:35.27 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh, that's right |
02:35.49 | DrodoEmpire | I don't really *hate* books or media too much >.< |
02:36.00 | DrodoEmpire | Usually I make my assessment of a book pretty fast- which might be a bad habit |
02:36.26 | DrodoEmpire | The only book I recently saw that I just couldn't stand was... Can't remember the title but the title was really bizarre, like an entire sentence |
02:36.38 | The_Randomness | I was going to say, I don't know if hate is the right word, but when I get angry just thinking about my experience reading it, I think it's appropriate |
02:37.11 | DrodoEmpire | makes sense |
02:38.09 | DrodoEmpire | And it just *rambled* and *rambled* on with its strange pseudointellectual sophistry, between a non-sequitur scene of a gas station interaction that was awkwardly mumbled out |
02:38.17 | The_Randomness | o_O |
02:38.24 | DrodoEmpire | Just- weird |
02:38.46 | The_Randomness | Between the characterization problems, the awkwardly shoehorned in, and frequent sex scenes, and the setting feeling like "How far can a fantasy setting go down the shitter?" I don't think the book could've done much worse without making me stop and throw it at the wall |
02:38.50 | DrodoEmpire | Weird book, so I gave it an appropriately harsh review (school activity made us give first impressions of a bunch of books) |
02:39.05 | DrodoEmpire | Oh wow |
02:39.19 | DrodoEmpire | Was it just overbearingly dark? |
02:39.23 | DrodoEmpire | And badly written? |
02:39.51 | The_Randomness | It wasn't too badly written, but it was quite dark |
02:40.00 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
02:40.15 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I'm getting sick of this cynical streak in a lot of media now |
02:40.27 | The_Randomness | Male characters (except for one, who got executed because apparently he was too good for the setting) were one-dimensional and can generally be described as assholes |
02:40.34 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
02:40.38 | The_Randomness | they all ended up blurring together |
02:40.48 | The_Randomness | One in particular just seemed to be there to bang one of the female characters |
02:40.48 | DrodoEmpire | Everything has to be dark and brooding in some way, flawed, problematic, so on |
02:41.08 | DrodoEmpire | Has to have a "moral" of some sort foisted in front of you in some unsubtle way |
02:41.17 | The_Randomness | Yeah, and it generally isn't done well like you just said |
02:41.27 | DrodoEmpire | Building a character around a plot, ew |
02:41.46 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah there're *great* examples of dark video games actually making a good point |
02:41.56 | DrodoEmpire | Spec Ops: The Line is a genuine work of art |
02:42.08 | DrodoEmpire | And a criticism of video gaming (at the time) |
02:42.13 | The_Randomness | Interesting |
02:42.22 | DrodoEmpire | Read about it, man |
02:43.14 | The_Randomness | oh look, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjaBsuXWJJ8 |
02:43.18 | DrodoEmpire | Everything about it- from its generic gameplay, to its slow shift in theme, to everything else is deliberate and artful and makes a statement |
02:43.24 | The_Randomness | Was wondering if Extra Credits did something about it |
02:43.34 | DrodoEmpire | Huh cool |
02:44.12 | DrodoEmpire | But now too many games and media try to have some high-minded moral, and try to be gritty and its getting boring and depressing |
02:44.29 | DrodoEmpire | Probably, again, why I loved "1632" so much- it was unabashedly optimistic |
02:45.08 | DrodoEmpire | A town of 3500 were going to make a new America in the middle of one of the most horrific wars in human history- and things were gonna be okay |
02:45.12 | Wormy_ | goodnight |
02:45.17 | The_Randomness | gn |
02:45.18 | DrodoEmpire | Night! |
02:47.25 | The_Randomness | Yeah, we need more optimism these days |
02:47.31 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
02:47.46 | The_Randomness | Because we've been overexposed to dark, gritty shit |
02:48.13 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah for sure |
02:48.24 | DrodoEmpire | Its become fashionable to be edgy, so it isn't edgy anymore |
02:50.16 | The_Randomness | There's also other problems like people including the apocalypse without ever considering what it says about your setting |
02:50.26 | The_Randomness | Or lazily using it to insert some pet ideology |
02:50.41 | The_Randomness | or "lol dystopia" |
02:50.51 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
02:53.35 | The_Randomness | ok wow, this game is a work of art |
02:53.59 | The_Randomness | Like, the way it addresses the player throughout is really cool |
02:54.26 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
02:58.27 | The_Randomness | Fascinating |
02:58.53 | The_Randomness | One of the things that stuck out to me is when they talked about the dialogue in the loading screens |
02:58.59 | The_Randomness | In particular, "This is all your fault." |
02:59.34 | The_Randomness | It reminded me of something from another, completely unrelated game |
02:59.47 | The_Randomness | Well, a particular path that you could take in that game |
03:00.08 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... |
03:00.12 | The_Randomness | That is, the genocide route in Undertale |
03:01.28 | The_Randomness | Like, at the very end, the game turns around and says pretty much says "Look at what you've done, did you really have to do that?" |
03:02.14 | The_Randomness | But thanks for telling me about that game, it's really cool to see stuff like that |
03:02.42 | The_Randomness | Like, games making a statement about a genre or group of games, while not being heavy-handed in execution |
03:03.38 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
03:03.43 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah no problem |
03:06.47 | The_Randomness | Undertale didn't do that sort of thing, but it did comment on a particular aspect of/mindset in gaming |
03:07.56 | The_Randomness | Actually, a couple things I think |
03:09.40 | The_Randomness | One is the completionist doing outrageous things to extreme ends, and also doing stuff just because you can |
03:10.12 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
03:10.32 | The_Randomness | I won't say too much because this is the sort of game that shouldn't be spoiled, ever |
03:10.50 | The_Randomness | Because spoilers do affect the experience quite a bit |
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03:18.44 | Quark_PC | Hello. |
03:18.48 | The_Randomness | Hey |
03:22.56 | DrodoEmpire | Apparently, British officers in the napoleonic wars actually had to be asked- multiple times- *not* to hold meetings within sight/shooting range of the enemy |
03:23.25 | DrodoEmpire | Which clearly was done as a badge of pride or honour on the part of the officers- something with a long tradition in the British army |
03:24.08 | DrodoEmpire | Actually watching this new Lindybeige video yeah the British officers had some *balls* |
03:24.54 | DrodoEmpire | Probably why I based Drodo officer behavior so closely off of that old-fashioned style |
03:26.29 | DrodoEmpire | To the Drodo, the ideal officer is well-bred, attractive, young, wears an expensive sword and dons an impeccable uniform- and puts himself at just as much risk as the men under him |
03:36.13 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah now I *really* want to write about a Drodo officer >.< I might have my chance soon, hopefully |
03:37.04 | Quark_PC | Interesting. What do you have in mind for this officer? |
03:39.32 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh, its part of a news report actually |
03:39.35 | DrodoEmpire | On the silvan thing |
03:40.43 | DrodoEmpire | I've already mentioned it so its not really a "spoiler", but I have a plan for a pitched battle between a huge native Silvan army (~ten million strong) against a New Aratacian militia army of about 200 000 |
03:41.37 | Quark_PC | Exciting. |
03:41.47 | DrodoEmpire | One of the biggest events, at the height of the battle, will be when a division of New Aratacians stage a full-on bayonet charge |
03:42.39 | DrodoEmpire | As a breakout from being suppressed by Silvan skirmishers, armed with rifles |
03:43.50 | DrodoEmpire | I think it'd be started by some charismatic officer, who basically demands his men fix bayonets, form a V, and march forward |
03:45.00 | DrodoEmpire | Then others would get the idea, and have their regiments push forward in columns, and through sheer elan (and a lot of hipfiring along the way to melee range) they make a breakout and probably actually push the advantage and crash in to Silvan lines of spearmen/swordsmen |
03:56.02 | DrodoEmpire | test |
04:03.19 | The_Randomness | I'm off for tonight, see you guys tomorrow |
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12:06.19 | dino82_ | howz alldong |
12:06.38 | Quark8 | Fine, thank you. You? |
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12:26.26 | dino82_ | @Quark: I am fine as well, thanks. Question, are you a fan of Ds9? |
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13:27.27 | dino82_ | :D |
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13:36.29 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
13:37.13 | Xho | ack |
13:39.05 | dino82_ | hi |
13:47.38 | Drodoaway | test |
13:47.45 | Hachiman | Wormy_: So local authorities in Weymouth are teaming up with pub, club, and bar owners and allowing bouncers to breathalyse people at the door to estimate whether they are too drunk to go in, so as to prevent pre-drinks and supposedly prevent more alcohol-related crime |
13:48.16 | Hachiman | To me, it just sounds like a tactic to get people to buy more once they're inside to make up for the lack of pre-drinks |
13:49.12 | Hachiman | Also it possibly means you're not allowed to move from establishment to establishment |
14:00.02 | Wormy_ | I think you are right |
14:00.06 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Da_Reckoning#The_Fate_of_the_Loron it's up |
14:00.09 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: a |
14:00.38 | Hachiman | its hip |
14:00.47 | Technobliterator | \o/ |
14:00.54 | Wormy_ | Also, fuck the nanny state |
14:01.16 | OluapPlayer | these bugs are not for fuckin |
14:01.25 | Wormy_ | Authorities want no fun |
14:01.57 | Hachiman | FUCK LIL WAYNE AND THE GOVERNMENT'S CORRUPT FUCK THE GOVERNMENT CUS I DONT GIVE A FUCK |
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14:02.15 | Treebeard | Hello |
14:02.29 | OluapPlayer | F5 that |
14:02.37 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RPvfJXh-n0 |
14:02.45 | Hachiman | I'M A SPIRITUAL LYRICAL INDIVIDUAL SPIRITUAL MIRACLE LYRICAL INDIVIDUAL SPIRITUAL MIRACLE INDIVIDUAL |
14:03.02 | OluapPlayer | shup read Loron trial |
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14:04.51 | Wormy_ | DrodoEmpire: I think you'd like punk music |
14:05.11 | Wormy_ | hi |
14:05.37 | Hachiman | Fucking Alexandre's wall of text |
14:05.41 | Hachiman | aint reedin dat shit |
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14:06.37 | Wormy_ | reads the fate |
14:08.41 | Hachiman | Wow, that was an interesting read |
14:09.04 | Hachiman | I'm quite surprised at how many supported the Loron's continued existence |
14:09.41 | OluapPlayer | Arkarixus - next time the corruptus attacks we should fucking invite them for tea |
14:09.52 | Hachiman | Hachi - yee |
14:10.33 | Hachiman | Although I cannot help but feel Tuolog is far too kind for his own good; he could easily have deceived the court with his explanation of being able to see into the future |
14:10.36 | OluapPlayer | throw the gigaquadrant out the airlock commanda |
14:10.52 | Hachiman | That is, he could know the Loron will become a threat again but lied because it's not in his heart to exterminate them |
14:11.22 | OluapPlayer | Perhaps yes |
14:11.48 | Technobliterator | It's true, but it's also not in his heart to be dishonest |
14:12.22 | Wormy_ | Pre-GXS, the DCP probably would have tried to wipe them out there and then. Post-GXS, it at least offers a second option |
14:12.24 | OluapPlayer | Tuolog - it was alternate timeline tuolog all along he doesn't mind lying as much |
14:12.37 | OluapPlayer | Indoc - dangit you're growing soft on us |
14:13.14 | Hachiman | It would be interesting to see if Tuolog was being dishonest for the good of the Loron at the cost of his own comfort; it's probably not the case though |
14:13.44 | OluapPlayer | Out-of-universe speaking they won't become a threat of this magnitude again |
14:14.07 | OluapPlayer | If they did they would be exterminated and no peace-calling essay would stop it from happening |
14:14.15 | Technobliterator | Mhm, since there's no way we'd be able to justify them living after that |
14:18.43 | Wormy_ | Either that, or there's the Apalos' unethical choice, which is murder of a kind I suppose |
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14:30.24 | Quark_PC | Hello. |
14:30.52 | Treebeard | Hello |
14:39.16 | OluapPlayer | Now that I'm reading it again, it seems the only people who were actually in favour of exterminating the Loron were the Indocs and the PCA |
14:39.30 | OluapPlayer | blame oluap and his homicidal tendencies in fiction |
14:55.04 | Technobliterator | DCP as well |
14:57.13 | Technobliterator | And remember the massive crowd of aliens |
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15:35.33 | dino82_ | hi |
16:01.00 | Quark_PC | Hey. |
16:21.02 | Xho | OluapPlayer: kicath dam u |
16:22.55 | OluapPlayer | Kicath are PCA dam u |
16:23.22 | Xho | good point |
16:44.25 | Charles_Murray | >aint reeding dat shit |
16:44.27 | Charles_Murray | Thanks |
16:44.42 | Charles_Murray | I'm glad to see that effort is rewarded in these parts |
16:48.52 | Hachiman | I'm kidding |
16:50.55 | Charles_Murray | Alright, apologies |
17:10.12 | Charles_Murray | Technobliterator OluapPlayer : Very well done, I really like the different angles and diverse range of points of view we saw in the council at the end |
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17:31.21 | Wormy_ | No meaness to your work but I did laugh to myself imaging Alexendre giving a huge, eloquent speech while everyone had two or three sentences of ranting, and all the aliens yet to speak desperate for this skinny primate to finish. |
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17:35.30 | Charles_Murray | Wormy_ lol |
17:35.38 | Charles_Murray | [13:10] <Charles_Murray> Technobliterator OluapPlayer : Very well done, I really like the different angles and diverse range of points of view we saw in the council at the end |
17:35.44 | Charles_Murray | In case you didn't see Oluap |
17:36.05 | Charles_Murray | Wormy_ It's good he came in last then |
17:36.07 | Wormy_ | Yeah, I missed the last hour and half or so |
17:36.10 | OluapPlayer | cool |
17:37.14 | Charles_Murray | Yeah, I've edited the transcript of the French ambassador's speeches before the UN security council, and they tend to be about two pages long single-spaced. That was about a page |
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17:51.26 | Wormy_ | Hachiman, OluapPlaying, Technobliterator: Found this to be an interesting question http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:216402 |
17:52.33 | OluapPlaying | I always had the impression you could use elemental energy to get like, telekinetic powers and similar |
17:52.55 | Wormy_ | Quite possible |
18:00.54 | Hachiman | I thought the Synthetic Essences were non-canon |
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18:08.40 | OluapPlaying | Goddamnit |
18:09.17 | dino82_ | connection issues? |
18:35.15 | Wormy_ | Hachi: I have vague memories of me, Ghel and Falco discussing them as being a kind of elemental, and its written so on the essence page |
18:35.35 | Wormy_ | So if you want to use it, I'd say go for it |
18:37.39 | Hachiman | I did take some basis for the revamped Essence powers that Sylits have |
18:37.49 | Hachiman | That is, the way they manifest elemental energy is very fire-oriented |
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18:48.02 | Wormy_ | Cool, that seems suitable. |
18:48.04 | Wormy_ | Hi |
18:50.32 | The_Randomness | Hello |
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19:17.22 | Imperios | Hi |
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19:18.24 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Uniate_Emblem.png >tfw wasted two hours because you did not like the previous emblem you created |
19:18.37 | Imperios | It's three emblems already and I still haven't made the page for the Spodist alliance |
19:19.39 | Imperios | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/fa/Uniate_Flag.png/revision/latest?cb=20160917191928 And in a flag form too because FUCK YOU |
19:19.56 | Imperios | I do nothing but emblems nowadays |
19:22.10 | Imperios | Hi Moneyt |
19:22.12 | Imperios | Monet |
19:25.21 | Monet | Hi |
19:28.57 | Wormy_ | Just met alpha of the alpha death claws |
19:29.11 | Wormy_ | Some things are just better left to be |
19:29.32 | Wormy_ | Nothing in my current arsenal would take him short of a lot of mini nukes |
19:30.20 | Wormy_ | I tried using a stealth boy and laid down a dozen mines while hiding in a doorway to shoot missiles but it barely dents |
19:30.26 | Imperios | So what do you think guys? |
19:31.21 | Wormy_ | I love all the symbolism |
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19:36.42 | Wormy_ | I like how you take inspiration from different cultures and put them together |
19:41.14 | Wormy_away | Going to get hammered |
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19:49.16 | Monet | Wormy_away: Have fun |
19:50.00 | Imperios | I downed some vodka yesterday on Chusok |
19:51.11 | Imperios | Wormy_away Monet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXtxJRQGUrY There was a neoclassical concert in Saint-Petersburg today |
19:51.22 | Imperios | Not just classical music with modern instruments |
19:51.28 | Imperios | Classical music actually mixed with modern songs |
20:01.25 | Monet | As great as this sounds, it's hard to look past how this video was uploaded vertically. |
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20:06.00 | Imperios | Monet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXtxJRQGUrY There fixedf |
20:07.05 | Monet | Music is nice though |
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20:16.00 | Cyrannian | Hai everyone |
20:16.57 | Monet | hi |
20:20.09 | Quark_PC_ | Hello Cyrannian. |
20:21.03 | Cyrannian | Hai |
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21:05.37 | dino82_ | bye bye |
21:43.53 | DrodoEmpire | test |
21:43.57 | DrodoEmpire | Oh wow |
21:44.04 | DrodoEmpire | I really should've said I was away |
21:44.05 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
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22:20.46 | Monet | Hello |
22:22.11 | Quark_PC | Hello Monet. |
22:22.16 | DrodoEmpire | Hey monet |
22:22.56 | Monet | Hi |
22:40.16 | DrodoEmpire | "A Belgian brewery inaugurates a pipeline buried beneath the medieval city of Bruges to transport its beer to a bottling plant some 3 km away." |
22:45.29 | The_Randomness | nice |
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23:19.53 | DrodoEmpire | test |
23:23.54 | Quark_PC | passed |