IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160917

00:03.39MonetComing back as a demon must have scored him faith points to any Dominion cultist who knew of him when he was alive.
00:05.48DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki%3AFiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#.E2.80.A2LIVE:_Silvan_Raids_Intensify_on_New_Aratacia - I know some new people have joined since I last posted this
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00:05.57DrodoEmpireHey Wormy
00:06.09Wormy__hi
00:06.33DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki%3AFiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#.E2.80.A2LIVE:_Silvan_Raids_Intensify_on_New_Aratacia Just posted this as you came on with a new nick >.<
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00:12.47Wormy_Cyrannian|STO:  No more STO tonight, it gon baad
00:12.57Wormy_Cyrannian|Away
00:13.10DrodoEmpireWhat happened?
00:13.18Cyrannian|Awayoh dere
00:13.21Wormy_keeps freezing my computer
00:13.33DrodoEmpireAhh
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00:16.45DrodoEmpireHi
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00:19.08DrodoEmpirehi
00:22.09Dinolion92Hi
00:25.55DrodoEmpiretest
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00:33.17Quark8Hello.
00:35.43DrodoEmpireHi
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01:59.33Dinolion92Hi
02:00.40Quark8Hello Dinolion92.
02:27.19Wormy_DrodoEmpire http://imgur.com/gallery/84Lrk
02:27.46DrodoEmpireAren't far-left activists fun? :p
02:27.58DrodoEmpireHell, aren't decentralised social movements in general fun?
02:30.43Wormy_lol
02:31.53The_Randomnesswouldn't say that's representative of BLM though, even if there are some particularly vocal assholes like that that support the movement
02:32.12DrodoEmpireI hear that all the time and its false
02:32.51DrodoEmpireAnd it doesn't matter anyway- if its a minority of a movement being violent and rowdy and the rest don't do it, the "silent majority" don't much matter
02:32.52DrodoEmpireIn fact
02:33.07DrodoEmpirethey contribute to the problem by not casting these clowns out of the movement and denouncing them
02:33.11DrodoEmpireBLM
02:33.13The_Randomnessyeah
02:33.17The_Randomnessyou are right there
02:33.48DrodoEmpire*BLM's a decentralised movement, open to everyone- it was started, I'm sure, by well-meaning people but on shaky grounds to begin with and was taken over by far-left, regressive fascists
02:34.39The_RandomnessWhen you mentioned far-left stuff, I was suddenly reminded of that hideous piece of Marxist propaganda that I told you about a while ago lol
02:34.44DrodoEmpire^
02:34.49The_RandomnessWhich was the second worst thing I've ever read
02:34.50DrodoEmpireYeah... >.<
02:35.07The_Randomnesssecond-worst because it had the decency to make me hate it less than one page in
02:35.19DrodoEmpirehur
02:35.21The_RandomnessUnlike GoT
02:35.23DrodoEmpireWhat was the first most-
02:35.27DrodoEmpireAhh, that's right
02:35.49DrodoEmpireI don't really *hate* books or media too much >.<
02:36.00DrodoEmpireUsually I make my assessment of a book pretty fast- which might be a bad habit
02:36.26DrodoEmpireThe only book I recently saw that I just couldn't stand was... Can't remember the title but the title was really bizarre, like an entire sentence
02:36.38The_RandomnessI was going to say, I don't know if hate is the right word, but when I get angry just thinking about my experience reading it, I think it's appropriate
02:37.11DrodoEmpiremakes sense
02:38.09DrodoEmpireAnd it just *rambled* and *rambled* on with its strange pseudointellectual sophistry, between a non-sequitur scene of a gas station interaction that was awkwardly mumbled out
02:38.17The_Randomnesso_O
02:38.24DrodoEmpireJust- weird
02:38.46The_RandomnessBetween the characterization problems, the awkwardly shoehorned in, and frequent sex scenes, and the setting feeling like "How far can a fantasy setting go down the shitter?" I don't think the book could've done much worse without making me stop and throw it at the wall
02:38.50DrodoEmpireWeird book, so I gave it an appropriately harsh review (school activity made us give first impressions of a bunch of books)
02:39.05DrodoEmpireOh wow
02:39.19DrodoEmpireWas it just overbearingly dark?
02:39.23DrodoEmpireAnd badly written?
02:39.51The_RandomnessIt wasn't too badly written, but it was quite dark
02:40.00DrodoEmpireAhh
02:40.15DrodoEmpireYeah I'm getting sick of this cynical streak in a lot of media now
02:40.27The_RandomnessMale characters (except for one, who got executed because apparently he was too good for the setting) were one-dimensional and can generally be described as assholes
02:40.34DrodoEmpireAhh
02:40.38The_Randomnessthey all ended up blurring together
02:40.48The_RandomnessOne in particular just seemed to be there to bang one of the female characters
02:40.48DrodoEmpireEverything has to be dark and brooding in some way, flawed, problematic, so on
02:41.08DrodoEmpireHas to have a "moral" of some sort foisted in front of you in some unsubtle way
02:41.17The_RandomnessYeah, and it generally isn't done well like you just said
02:41.27DrodoEmpireBuilding a character around a plot, ew
02:41.46DrodoEmpireYeah there're *great* examples of dark video games actually making a good point
02:41.56DrodoEmpireSpec Ops: The Line is a genuine work of art
02:42.08DrodoEmpireAnd a criticism of video gaming (at the time)
02:42.13The_RandomnessInteresting
02:42.22DrodoEmpireRead about it, man
02:43.14The_Randomnessoh look, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjaBsuXWJJ8
02:43.18DrodoEmpireEverything about it- from its generic gameplay, to its slow shift in theme, to everything else is deliberate and artful and makes a statement
02:43.24The_RandomnessWas wondering if Extra Credits did something about it
02:43.34DrodoEmpireHuh cool
02:44.12DrodoEmpireBut now too many games and media try to have some high-minded moral, and try to be gritty and its getting boring and depressing
02:44.29DrodoEmpireProbably, again, why I loved "1632" so much- it was unabashedly optimistic
02:45.08DrodoEmpireA town of 3500 were going to make a new America in the middle of one of the most horrific wars in human history- and things were gonna be okay
02:45.12Wormy_goodnight
02:45.17The_Randomnessgn
02:45.18DrodoEmpireNight!
02:47.25The_RandomnessYeah, we need more optimism these days
02:47.31DrodoEmpire^
02:47.46The_RandomnessBecause we've been overexposed to dark, gritty shit
02:48.13DrodoEmpireYeah for sure
02:48.24DrodoEmpireIts become fashionable to be edgy, so it isn't edgy anymore
02:50.16The_RandomnessThere's also other problems like people including the apocalypse without ever considering what it says about your setting
02:50.26The_RandomnessOr lazily using it to insert some pet ideology
02:50.41The_Randomnessor "lol dystopia"
02:50.51DrodoEmpireYeah
02:53.35The_Randomnessok wow, this game is a work of art
02:53.59The_RandomnessLike, the way it addresses the player throughout is really cool
02:54.26DrodoEmpire^
02:58.27The_RandomnessFascinating
02:58.53The_RandomnessOne of the things that stuck out to me is when they talked about the dialogue in the loading screens
02:58.59The_RandomnessIn particular, "This is all your fault."
02:59.34The_RandomnessIt reminded me of something from another, completely unrelated game
02:59.47The_RandomnessWell, a particular path that you could take in that game
03:00.08DrodoEmpireYeah...
03:00.12The_RandomnessThat is, the genocide route in Undertale
03:01.28The_RandomnessLike, at the very end, the game turns around and says pretty much says "Look at what you've done, did you really have to do that?"
03:02.14The_RandomnessBut thanks for telling me about that game, it's really cool to see stuff like that
03:02.42The_RandomnessLike, games making a statement about a genre or group of games, while not being heavy-handed in execution
03:03.38DrodoEmpire^
03:03.43DrodoEmpireYeah no problem
03:06.47The_RandomnessUndertale didn't do that sort of thing, but it did comment on a particular aspect of/mindset in gaming
03:07.56The_RandomnessActually, a couple things I think
03:09.40The_RandomnessOne is the completionist doing outrageous things to extreme ends, and also doing stuff just because you can
03:10.12DrodoEmpireRight
03:10.32The_RandomnessI won't say too much because this is the sort of game that shouldn't be spoiled, ever
03:10.50The_RandomnessBecause spoilers do affect the experience quite a bit
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03:18.44Quark_PCHello.
03:18.48The_RandomnessHey
03:22.56DrodoEmpireApparently, British officers in the napoleonic wars actually had to be asked- multiple times- *not* to hold meetings within sight/shooting range of the enemy
03:23.25DrodoEmpireWhich clearly was done as a badge of pride or honour on the part of the officers- something with a long tradition in the British army
03:24.08DrodoEmpireActually watching this new Lindybeige video yeah the British officers had some *balls*
03:24.54DrodoEmpireProbably why I based Drodo officer behavior so closely off of that old-fashioned style
03:26.29DrodoEmpireTo the Drodo, the ideal officer is well-bred, attractive, young, wears an expensive sword and dons an impeccable uniform- and puts himself at just as much risk as the men under him
03:36.13DrodoEmpireYeah now I *really* want to write about a Drodo officer >.< I might have my chance soon, hopefully
03:37.04Quark_PCInteresting. What do you have in mind for this officer?
03:39.32DrodoEmpireEhh, its part of a news report actually
03:39.35DrodoEmpireOn the silvan thing
03:40.43DrodoEmpireI've already mentioned it so its not really a "spoiler", but I have a plan for a pitched battle between a huge native Silvan army (~ten million strong) against a New Aratacian militia army of about 200 000
03:41.37Quark_PCExciting.
03:41.47DrodoEmpireOne of the biggest events, at the height of the battle, will be when a division of New Aratacians stage a full-on bayonet charge
03:42.39DrodoEmpireAs a breakout from being suppressed by Silvan skirmishers, armed with rifles
03:43.50DrodoEmpireI think it'd be started by some charismatic officer, who basically demands his men fix bayonets, form a V, and march forward
03:45.00DrodoEmpireThen others would get the idea, and have their regiments push forward in columns, and through sheer elan (and a lot of hipfiring along the way to melee range) they make a breakout and probably actually push the advantage and crash in to Silvan lines of spearmen/swordsmen
03:56.02DrodoEmpiretest
04:03.19The_RandomnessI'm off for tonight, see you guys tomorrow
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11:52.56MonetHello
11:59.38dino82_hi
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12:03.38Quark8Hello.
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12:06.19dino82_howz alldong
12:06.38Quark8Fine, thank you. You?
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12:26.26dino82_@Quark: I am fine as well, thanks. Question, are you a fan of Ds9?
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12:32.41HachimanHi
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12:35.18NeonPandahi all
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13:27.27dino82_:D
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13:36.29OluapPlayerHi
13:37.13Xhoack
13:39.05dino82_hi
13:47.38Drodoawaytest
13:47.45HachimanWormy_: So local authorities in Weymouth are teaming up with pub, club, and bar owners and allowing bouncers to breathalyse people at the door to estimate whether they are too drunk to go in, so as to prevent pre-drinks and supposedly prevent more alcohol-related crime
13:48.16HachimanTo me, it just sounds like a tactic to get people to buy more once they're inside to make up for the lack of pre-drinks
13:49.12HachimanAlso it possibly means you're not allowed to move from establishment to establishment
14:00.02Wormy_I think you are right
14:00.06OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Da_Reckoning#The_Fate_of_the_Loron it's up
14:00.09OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: a
14:00.38Hachimanits hip
14:00.47Technobliterator\o/
14:00.54Wormy_Also, fuck the nanny state
14:01.16OluapPlayerthese bugs are not for fuckin
14:01.25Wormy_Authorities want no fun
14:01.57HachimanFUCK LIL WAYNE AND THE GOVERNMENT'S CORRUPT    FUCK THE GOVERNMENT CUS I DONT GIVE A FUCK
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14:02.15TreebeardHello
14:02.29OluapPlayerF5 that
14:02.37Wormy_Hachiman:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RPvfJXh-n0
14:02.45HachimanI'M A SPIRITUAL LYRICAL INDIVIDUAL SPIRITUAL MIRACLE LYRICAL INDIVIDUAL SPIRITUAL MIRACLE INDIVIDUAL
14:03.02OluapPlayershup read Loron trial
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14:04.51Wormy_DrodoEmpire:  I think you'd like punk music
14:05.11Wormy_hi
14:05.37HachimanFucking Alexandre's wall of text
14:05.41Hachimanaint reedin dat shit
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14:06.37Wormy_reads the fate
14:08.41HachimanWow, that was an interesting read
14:09.04HachimanI'm quite surprised at how many supported the Loron's continued existence
14:09.41OluapPlayerArkarixus - next time the corruptus attacks we should fucking invite them for tea
14:09.52HachimanHachi - yee
14:10.33HachimanAlthough I cannot help but feel Tuolog is far too kind for his own good; he could easily have deceived the court with his explanation of being able to see into the future
14:10.36OluapPlayerthrow the gigaquadrant out the airlock commanda
14:10.52HachimanThat is, he could know the Loron will become a threat again but lied because it's not in his heart to exterminate them
14:11.22OluapPlayerPerhaps yes
14:11.48TechnobliteratorIt's true, but it's also not in his heart to be dishonest
14:12.22Wormy_Pre-GXS, the DCP probably would have tried to wipe them out there and then.  Post-GXS, it at least offers a second option
14:12.24OluapPlayerTuolog - it was alternate timeline tuolog all along he doesn't mind lying as much
14:12.37OluapPlayerIndoc - dangit you're growing soft on us
14:13.14HachimanIt would be interesting to see if Tuolog was being dishonest for the good of the Loron at the cost of his own comfort; it's probably not the case though
14:13.44OluapPlayerOut-of-universe speaking they won't become a threat of this magnitude again
14:14.07OluapPlayerIf they did they would be exterminated and no peace-calling essay would stop it from happening
14:14.15TechnobliteratorMhm, since there's no way we'd be able to justify them living after that
14:18.43Wormy_Either that, or there's the Apalos' unethical choice, which is murder of a kind I suppose
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14:30.24Quark_PCHello.
14:30.52TreebeardHello
14:39.16OluapPlayerNow that I'm reading it again, it seems the only people who were actually in favour of exterminating the Loron were the Indocs and the PCA
14:39.30OluapPlayerblame oluap and his homicidal tendencies in fiction
14:55.04TechnobliteratorDCP as well
14:57.13TechnobliteratorAnd remember the massive crowd of aliens
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15:35.33dino82_hi
16:01.00Quark_PCHey.
16:21.02XhoOluapPlayer: kicath dam u
16:22.55OluapPlayerKicath are PCA dam u
16:23.22Xhogood point
16:44.25Charles_Murray>aint reeding dat shit
16:44.27Charles_MurrayThanks
16:44.42Charles_MurrayI'm glad to see that effort is rewarded in these parts
16:48.52HachimanI'm kidding
16:50.55Charles_MurrayAlright, apologies
17:10.12Charles_MurrayTechnobliterator OluapPlayer : Very well done, I really like the different angles and diverse range of points of view we saw in the council at the end
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17:31.21Wormy_No meaness to your work but I did laugh to myself imaging Alexendre giving a huge, eloquent speech while everyone had two or three sentences of ranting, and all the aliens yet to speak desperate for this skinny primate to finish.
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17:35.30Charles_MurrayWormy_ lol
17:35.38Charles_Murray[13:10] <Charles_Murray> Technobliterator OluapPlayer : Very well done, I really like the different angles and diverse range of points of view we saw in the council at the end
17:35.44Charles_MurrayIn case you didn't see Oluap
17:36.05Charles_MurrayWormy_ It's good he came in last then
17:36.07Wormy_Yeah, I missed the last hour and half or so
17:36.10OluapPlayercool
17:37.14Charles_MurrayYeah, I've edited the transcript of the French ambassador's speeches before the UN security council, and they tend to be about two pages long single-spaced. That was about a page
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17:51.26Wormy_Hachiman, OluapPlaying, Technobliterator:  Found this to be an interesting question http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:216402
17:52.33OluapPlayingI always had the impression you could use elemental energy to get like, telekinetic powers and similar
17:52.55Wormy_Quite possible
18:00.54HachimanI thought the Synthetic Essences were non-canon
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18:08.40OluapPlayingGoddamnit
18:09.17dino82_connection issues?
18:35.15Wormy_Hachi:  I have vague memories of me, Ghel and Falco discussing them as being a kind of elemental, and its written so on the essence page
18:35.35Wormy_So if you want to use it, I'd say go for it
18:37.39HachimanI did take some basis for the revamped Essence powers that Sylits have
18:37.49HachimanThat is, the way they manifest elemental energy is very fire-oriented
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18:48.02Wormy_Cool, that seems suitable.
18:48.04Wormy_Hi
18:50.32The_RandomnessHello
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19:17.22ImperiosHi
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19:18.24Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Uniate_Emblem.png >tfw wasted two hours because you did not like the previous emblem you created
19:18.37ImperiosIt's three emblems already and I still haven't made the page for the Spodist alliance
19:19.39Imperioshttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/fa/Uniate_Flag.png/revision/latest?cb=20160917191928 And in a flag form too because FUCK YOU
19:19.56ImperiosI do nothing but emblems nowadays
19:22.10ImperiosHi Moneyt
19:22.12ImperiosMonet
19:25.21MonetHi
19:28.57Wormy_Just met alpha of the alpha death claws
19:29.11Wormy_Some things are just better left to be
19:29.32Wormy_Nothing in my current arsenal would take him short of a lot of mini nukes
19:30.20Wormy_I tried using a stealth boy and laid down a dozen mines while hiding in a doorway to shoot missiles  but it barely dents
19:30.26ImperiosSo what do you think guys?
19:31.21Wormy_I love all the symbolism
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19:36.42Wormy_I like how you take inspiration from different cultures and put them together
19:41.14Wormy_awayGoing to get hammered
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19:49.16MonetWormy_away: Have fun
19:50.00ImperiosI downed some vodka yesterday on Chusok
19:51.11ImperiosWormy_away Monet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXtxJRQGUrY There was a neoclassical concert in Saint-Petersburg today
19:51.22ImperiosNot just classical music with modern instruments
19:51.28ImperiosClassical music actually mixed with modern songs
20:01.25MonetAs great as this sounds, it's hard to look past how this video was uploaded vertically.
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20:06.00ImperiosMonet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXtxJRQGUrY There fixedf
20:07.05MonetMusic is nice though
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20:16.00CyrannianHai everyone
20:16.57Monethi
20:20.09Quark_PC_Hello Cyrannian.
20:21.03CyrannianHai
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21:05.37dino82_bye bye
21:43.53DrodoEmpiretest
21:43.57DrodoEmpireOh wow
21:44.04DrodoEmpireI really should've said I was away
21:44.05DrodoEmpire>.<
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22:20.46MonetHello
22:22.11Quark_PCHello Monet.
22:22.16DrodoEmpireHey monet
22:22.56MonetHi
22:40.16DrodoEmpire"A Belgian brewery inaugurates a pipeline buried beneath the medieval city of Bruges to transport its beer to a bottling plant some 3 km away."
22:45.29The_Randomnessnice
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