IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160916

00:00.55Spluff5Hi
00:01.37DrodoEmpireHey charles
00:18.38Monetgoodnight
00:27.20DrodoEmpiretest
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01:00.46DrodoEmpirehttp://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/13422878_240269816354077_338769473_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTI3NTA0MDg3NzcxMjM2NTgzOQ%3D%3D.2 <.<
01:00.59DrodoEmpireThese ads are getting out of hand
01:08.41The_Randomnesslmao
02:01.50DrodoEmpireWow
02:03.43DrodoEmpireI found a website, whose premise and userbase are so totally devoid of remotely meaningful thought that, frankly, its a more efficient killer of brain cells than malt liquor
02:05.07DrodoEmpireA... A "top tens" website with vapid crap like "worst youtubers"
02:05.09DrodoEmpireJust
02:05.12DrodoEmpireThe most vapid shit
02:05.24DrodoEmpireThe worst criticisms and positions possible
02:15.24The_Randomnesslovely
02:16.25DrodoEmpireIndeed
02:17.08DrodoEmpire(Naturally, the top of the "worst youtubers" was Pewdiepie, followed by JustinBieberVEVO :p)\
02:17.17The_Randomnessof course
02:17.50DrodoEmpire(Not because either one produces bad or distasteful content, or advances bad ideas- just because their Pewdiepie and Justin Bieber and they'
02:17.57DrodoEmpire* they're *baaad*
02:17.59DrodoEmpire:p
02:18.03The_Randomness:p
02:18.31The_RandomnessAside from hearing about people hating Pewdiepie, I've actually heard some interesting stuff about him from one of the Youtubers that I watch
02:18.56The_RandomnessI might be misremembering something, actually
02:18.58The_Randomnessnvm
02:19.09The_RandomnessYeah, I was thinking of another person
02:19.12The_Randomnessrip
02:19.24DrodoEmpireAh
02:19.33DrodoEmpireNah, I like pewdiepie
02:19.44DrodoEmpireHe's a genuinely good person and he embraced the meme <.<
02:19.58The_Randomnessalways embrace the meme
02:20.08The_Randomnessbrb
02:33.29The_RandomnessHowever, shitting on Justin Bieber is something that can be justified :P
02:39.00DrodoEmpireSure
02:39.09DrodoEmpireHe's a bit of an asshole, or rather, *was*
02:39.18DrodoEmpireI think he cleaned up his act some, but I wouldn't know
02:39.30The_Randomnessoh, that's good to hear
02:39.48DrodoEmpireBut seeing as this is a youtuber list- and Bieber isn't much of a youtuber- its clear he's there because its cool to hate him :p
02:39.56The_Randomness:P
02:41.09DrodoEmpireAlso- I updated the Silvan crisis newsfeed on the UDB
02:41.14The_Randomness:o
02:41.37The_RandomnessI'll check it out tomorrow, going to play some league and then get off for tonight
02:41.40DrodoEmpireProbably the biggest event yet happened, as a Silvan kingdom has taken advantage of Drodo confusion to full-on invade
02:41.42DrodoEmpireAhh, kk
02:41.49The_Randomnesssee you later
02:41.54DrodoEmpireAlright. Bye
02:41.56DrodoEmpire*!
02:42.25Spluff5Did you watch the IHE video?
02:50.05DrodoEmpireYeah, its how I *heard* of the site
02:50.09DrodoEmpireLooked for myself\
02:50.11DrodoEmpireRegretted it
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10:17.25ImpyAndroidHi Ink
10:18.16Liquid_InkHello
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11:05.11HachimanHi
11:12.19Wormy_hey
11:15.14GhelaeHi
11:45.57Wormy_Hachiman, Liquid_Ink:  Underground nuke test https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtH0EDLcbwA
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12:02.48JepardiHi
12:10.35GhelaeHi
12:18.17HachimanWormy_: http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/prehistoric-cave-still-holds-some-worlds-weirdest-creatures/all/
12:21.14ImpyAndroidHi
12:21.33ImpyAndroiddrom: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/Proposal_3_for_the_PRC_flag.svg So that was one of the original flag concepts for China
12:21.44ImpyAndroidIs it just me or does it look
12:22.01Liquid_InkIt does indeed look.
12:22.09Wormy_Ah yes, heard of Moville cave, useful for the Super Collab
12:23.28HachimanI wonder if vampires make use of chemosynthetic bacteria since natural sunlight is supposed to harm them
12:28.28Wormy_I'm not sure they would need anything like that, since the parasitise off of animals that depend on the photosynthesis of plants.
12:31.54Wormy_Hm, I imagine animals that depend on chemosynthesis would have slow metabolisms.  That's one challenge for Random's new Salsetthe-type creatures, since they depend on cave life for sustenance, although live most of the time near the surface
12:32.43HachimanUnderground farms?
12:32.53Wormy_That's one idea
12:33.17GhelaeFeeding on chemosynthetic organisms wouldn't have that problem, if you can get enough of them. Hence there is the suggestion of farms.
12:33.42Wormy_We decided they didn't evolve there in the end, and adapted to diving into submarine caves to feed on the creatures there.
12:37.28HachimanNo reason the civilised Salsetthe couldn't somehow manage to artificially reproduce the conditions required for breeding chemosynthetic organisms
12:41.22Wormy_Of course, it would be easy for them so long as they had the knowledge.  As they developed agriculture and eventually industry, they moved closer to the surface (and eventually to it), losing dependence on the original ecosystems.
12:43.11Wormy_With the new-Salsetthe, what happened on their planet was a global deluge shortly before they evolved.  Their ancestors became aquatic-cave creatures, able to dive into the depths to feed on the chemosynthtic-ecosystem
12:44.25Wormy_Yet funnily enough as they developed, they went the other way
12:44.38HachimanSeems a bit inefficient
12:44.46Wormy_How come?
12:45.09HachimanWell, you're evolving away from your primary food source
12:45.36Wormy_By "developed", I should have said the civilised Salsetthe
12:45.46HachimanAh
12:46.44Wormy_There's a big section on them here in you are interested https://titanpad.com/hK8iu1YqBn
12:48.08Wormy_I do wonder if somekind of slow metabolic, but intelligent creature could evolve.  But it gets complicated
12:48.19Wormy_Maybe like the Muuh from Orion's Arm
12:48.44Wormy_However the caves are only recent geological history on new-Excareta
12:49.54Wormy_Then again they found a slug capable of complex decisions using two neurons, so complex behaviour can be compact
12:52.24HachimanI mean, elephants have slow metabolisms right?
12:52.30HachimanAs do turtles
12:52.34HachimanTortoises, even
12:53.21HachimanOr do you mean like, exceptionally slow metabolic rates
12:54.34Wormy_Exceptionally slow, nearing that of life found at the bottom of the oceans, or hypothetical life that might live on Titanian worlds
12:55.09Wormy_The main problem is not reaction times or anything like that, but a big energy hungry brain might not be the best thing to have
12:56.57Wormy_So it would need to have a brain that needs less energy compared to the rest of the body somehow
12:57.59Wormy_However, a clue might come from organisms that already exist and appear to have intelligent behaviour despite having very tiny brains or none at all.
12:58.57Wormy_Although, to have a sentient species you also need the ability to communicate, have a theory of the mind, and creativity to guess what others are thinking/saying, and to plan ahead of time
12:59.58Wormy_Or you wind up with a "Smart Stupid" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphex#Uses_in_philosophy
13:02.35ImpyAndroidHi
13:05.55Wormy_Humans, I think are "Stupid Smarts", we do not have the precision of computers nor think in purely logical terms (even if logic might dictate some lower-level activity); instead human languages are fuzzy and vacouous, based more on analogy.  But out of all that we can use creativity.
13:07.13Wormy_I should say it is the meanings that are fuzzy, rather than the language which does follow rules we can use intuitively
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13:29.58HachimanHi
13:30.18NeonPandaso I played some more Overwatch today cos I was somehow interested in doing so
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13:31.04NeonPandaReinhardt basically being the only character I really truly enjoy, played him
13:31.10NeonPandafirst game is on Eichenwalde
13:31.15NeonPandaproceed to basically win the match on my own
13:31.33NeonPandaend game, guy on enemy team: GUYS
13:31.36NeonPandaWE WERE TRESSPASSERS
13:31.38NeonPandaIN HIS KINGDOM
13:31.42NeonPandafelt good
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13:38.50CyrannianHai everyone
13:44.36Wormy_hi
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14:08.13Tek0516Hello Charles_Murray
14:11.31Charles_MurrayHey
14:44.32Tek0516https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsdkgrPWEAAOJ0D.jpg So this is in the new Stellaris DLC.
14:46.52NeonPandashiny
14:47.02NeonPandacan't wait to dissect that and find out what new researches it unlocks
14:47.20NeonPandapersonally though I just hope they apply the square cube law and buff AoE weapons
14:47.29NeonPandathose two being separate things
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15:11.11JepardiHi
15:14.05Tek0516Hu
15:14.07Tek0516*Hi
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15:30.35TreebeardHello
15:32.36CyrannianHi
15:33.20Wormy_awaydrom http://imgur.com/gallery/xzl5o
15:39.09Wormy_awayI have dreams of discovering endless rooms all the time http://imgur.com/gallery/6NOvI
15:43.03Wormy_awayhttp://imgur.com/gallery/iL7Hb
15:44.15Tek0516Damn transit. My bus has been 3 minutes away for the past 10 minutes. >.>
16:57.41Wormy_awaytest
17:24.55Wormy_awayCyrannian:  I know its fake, but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCyPAaubENE
17:29.39Cyrannianlol
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17:41.09dino82_hi
17:44.48CyrannianHai dino
17:51.52dino82_HI
17:51.56dino82_NICE updates
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17:52.36XhoIT'S TIME TO STOP
17:54.23XhoImperios: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/d4/StarshipKaas.png/revision/latest?cb=20160915211827
17:57.01Xhowow dead crowd
17:58.17dino82_wow what are those xho?
17:59.14XhoIt's Imperios' machine race
17:59.24XhoHe wanted me to make a high-class version of them so I did
17:59.31ImperiosLemme see
17:59.55ImperiosOOOOOOOOOOOH
18:01.33dino82_neat
18:03.01XhoIt was based on a throwaway idea I had for an Essential race that no one wanted
18:03.32XhoI had the idea of new Light Essentials that replaced the Obvia'Atra after the Xhodocto destroyed them and they would have been machine-like in appearance
18:03.57XhoAlthough no one wanted new Light Essentials so
18:04.58ImperiosXho: Shinybots
18:05.01Imperios?
18:05.17XhoEh kinda
18:05.23XhoThey'd be massive and abstract in design
18:05.44XhoBecause god-machines that appear to have non-abstract characteristics is not cool bruh
18:06.18XhoAs to where they came from, more than likely the Xhodocto would have made them in their place
18:06.28dino82_neat, they sound complex :d
18:07.02XhoNot to say they would have served the Xhodocto (and they wouldn't have) but I can't think of any other way an entirely new order of Essentials would be brought into existence
18:07.30XhoIt's already implied the Xhodocto created the Vi'Navitum and definitely did create the Xi'Arazulha out of them
18:08.07XhoBut after the Obvia'Atra fiasco Light Essentials is a bag of saltiness
18:08.30Wormy_awayCan't tell if this is a joke, but the next Thor film trailer has him on holiday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVnBBjjjAnY
18:09.41XhoI'm pretty sure it is a joke
18:11.15Wormy_awayI hope the film is liuke that, with some
18:11.21Wormy_awaybattle at the end
18:21.23Wormy_away"thought it was cool and innovative when it was on men in black...here it is on men in black and white" http://imgur.com/gallery/o6yQo2r
18:22.48Wormy_awayhttp://imgur.com/gallery/tpagPX4
18:24.27Xhohttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/cf/Auatorom2016Spine.png/revision/latest?cb=20160916182404 I forgot to show everyone the new Auatorom tail
18:25.00Hachimandat anime pose
18:25.14Xho>anime pose
18:25.24XhoIt's just a back view you gaijin filth
18:25.35Hachiman>back to the camera     >looking ominous     >evil, dark, spiky
18:25.36HachimanAnime
18:26.14XhoSo if I took a back study of my private area suddenly it becomes an anime dick
18:26.46DrodoAwaytest
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18:48.22DrodoEmpiretest'
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18:51.49DrodoEmpireI'ma get started on a new update to the Silvan thing
18:51.51DrodoEmpireHi Charls
18:51.54DrodoEmpire*Charles
18:59.16dino82_hi
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19:16.25Xhohttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/ef/Nai-Ar%27natl2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20160916190158 Acolyte Dood is now on steroids
19:17.14Xhoguys pls
19:19.08CyrannianVery impressive
19:22.00XhoI'd imagine in a Gigaquadrantic sense that Nai-Ar'natl is probably on a hitlist
19:22.51Xhohttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/4/44/Nai-arnatl2.png/revision/latest?cb=20120128121445 Nai-Ar'natl is taking steroids for sure, his original appearance
19:24.06dino82_lol
19:26.26XhoIn terms of power scope I think Nai-Ar'natl is probably on par with Hez
19:27.08XhoIf the two were to fight it would certainly cause some expensive damage
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19:40.03Quark8Hello.
19:41.05DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#.E2.80.A2LIVE:_Silvan_Raids_Intensify_on_New_Aratacia Big update, with a big last stand
19:41.19DrodoEmpireAnyone who likes power armour might be interested <.<
19:42.08XhoNu - HOOOOOOOOOON
19:42.16DrodoEmpirehur
19:42.32DrodoEmpireJury-rigged power armour, mind you, but power armour
19:51.18XhoHachiman: Are you aware as to whether Borealis knows that Nai-Ar'natl is alive still
19:52.05Cyrannianhttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/f3/Battle_of_Alberensis.png/revision/latest?cb=20160916195140 - For an upcoming story
19:52.47Xhonoice
19:52.50Xhopew pew and boom
19:53.30Cyranniandanke
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20:12.52dino82_nice image!
20:18.46Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannian_Cold_War#Collapse_of_Cyrannian_Concordance_.2812_NE_-_.29 - Added a new battle to the final section
20:33.19Wormy_Hachiman:  So there's this new sport in China called tai chi softball and it looks insane https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RdlEpSlLtA
20:34.10Wormy_people also duel each other
20:34.56Wormy_This video's better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O5qacBAqQs
20:35.52dino82_bye bye
20:38.22Wormy_Oh god https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2RnODrh2yU
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20:46.31Wormy_https://twitter.com/MooseAllain/status/706230987907338241
20:47.52Wormy_Xho:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFRMGfVrKYY
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20:48.00Wormy_Oluap:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFRMGfVrKYY
20:48.05Wormy_hi
20:48.27OluapPlayery u show me dumb monkey mem
20:48.28OluapPlayere
20:48.42Wormy_now in 3D
21:01.20Xhodear god what
21:01.25Cyrannian|Awayoluap ur alive again
21:01.48XhoOluapPlayer: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/ef/Nai-Ar%27natl2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20160916190158 STEROID ACOLYTE
21:02.05OluapPlayerSeen
21:02.45OluapPlayerI've spent the last two hours waiting to meet a doctor
21:02.48OluapPlayerI've got esophagitis
21:02.52Xhoegad
21:04.10XhoOluapPlayer: How long would you say Acolyte Dood was a part of the Devourer's Chosen for
21:04.28OluapPlayerHe's your character, you should be the one knowing that
21:04.35XhoSo eight years then
21:05.02OluapPlayerIf he was there from the start, yes
21:06.15Cyrannian|AwayAlso c Neraida and Cold War updaets
21:06.27Cyrannian|AwayAlso uploaded Vanikamar
21:06.44OluapPlayerSeen
21:06.56OluapPlayerhe looks naked without a tail
21:07.16Cyrannian|AwayI'm not sure I'm happy with the model
21:07.26Wormy_legend http://imgur.com/gallery/BOxvPTV
21:07.43Cyrannian|AwayLooks a bit Apolithanatár-y now that I think about it
21:09.25DrodoEmpireAYY LMAO
21:18.34DanzaDelMondoCyrannian|Away: https://www.google.ru/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwioxoz155TPAhXE_ywKHfq9D90QjBwIBA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi56.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg182%2FEdwardMarksSeme2%2FSauronpicture1_zpsbedcd15c.jpg&bvm=bv.133053837,d.bGg&psig=AFQjCNFcry9LBCfgzxImGtlVQKqRkRY3ng&ust=1474146904013902 I googled
21:18.48DanzaDelMondoCyrannian|Away: Why is Sauron always depicted as ridiculously cute in fanart?
21:19.54Wormy_he just needs some eye lotion
21:19.58Cyrannian|Awaybecause the internet
21:20.24XhoDanzaDelMondo: Well Sauron was able to assume other forms, usually as some bishie elf
21:20.42DanzaDelMondoXho: So this is why I see Melkor and Sauron kissing in Google?
21:20.54XhoOkay well not so much
21:21.20Wormy_http://img.memecdn.com/sauron-eye_c_2378665.jpg
21:21.22DrodoEmpireI'ma begin to draft another Klaxon-- Before I dig in to research has there been any major character/fiction events I should know about?
21:21.33DrodoEmpirelul
21:22.51DrodoEmpireHey, a big Nova Scotian page retweeted my stuff
21:22.54XhoOluapPlayer: I just realised that most of the Dominion authorities actually hate each other
21:22.55DrodoEmpireThat's sorta cool
21:23.18DanzaDelMondoXho Cyrannian|Away: I now imagine Sauron as a beaten up gay kid bullied by other Maiar who decided to take revenge of the world
21:23.30Xhodur
21:23.40XhoEven though Sauron was most likely the most powerful of the Maiar
21:24.06Cyrannian|Awayhttp://images.dailykos.com/images/185149/story_image/saruman.jpg?1453935330 - I ship it
21:25.20DanzaDelMondoCyrannian|Away: Saurumaon?
21:28.38Cyrannian|AwaySaruron
21:30.51XhoSauron-sama~
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21:35.07DanzaDelMondoXho: http://s4.pikabu.ru/post_img/big/2014/10/15/10/1413391198_1144465212.jpg "There are two kinds of girls"
21:35.16XhoOh hell
21:36.26DanzaDelMondoCyrannian|Away: http://i.ucrazy.ru/files/comments/2015.03/1426568873_funny_picdump_943_640_high_10.jpg Tyro's propaganda agency
21:36.59Cyrannian|Awayhttp://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/azb3GNB_700b_v2.jpg - lol, he's a bigger one
21:37.01Cyrannian|Away*here's
21:37.04XhoOluapPlayer: Which Devourer's Chosen champions are still about (if there are any)
21:37.43OluapPlayerAll except Arberkul and Capastrus
21:37.48Xhorite
21:37.51XhoKithworto - lel
21:37.55OluapPlayerXho: http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1474052149243.png
21:38.17Xhobad times
21:38.19Xhobad bad times
21:42.10XhoI thought Ref'kolar was dead as well
21:42.47OluapPlayerHe is
21:42.49OluapPlayerSo those three
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22:02.00Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Nai-Ar%27natl Rewritten
22:02.51XhoOh I need a top quote
22:02.52Xhohm
22:05.21XhoAnd yes Acolyte Dood is a massive dick
22:07.17OluapPlayerSo he's replaced Hez'Kalka then
22:07.38XhoNot necessarily
22:08.00XhoBut because he's part of a different order of divinities he does challenge Hez
22:08.13XhoWhich is not to his nor Angazhar's liking
22:08.37XhoAlthough Angazhar ultimately doesn't give a fuck if Acolyte Dood did topple Hez
22:09.42XhoHez is the leader mainly because he's the only one on there that is a direct Xhodocto servant
22:10.04XhoKitoruka's another servant of Angazhar although Kitoruka's interactions with the Circle is choppy
22:10.25XhoAnd he isn't well liked by Hez
22:10.33XhoOr Nai
22:11.35XhoNai is probably the least liked on there because he was once a low-tier acolyte reanimated by some mysterious monster and possibly strong enough to take at least two of them out
22:11.47XhoI'd imagine the Circle is suspicious of him at the very least
22:12.52XhoIt also begs the question as to where Anzilanarus' allegiances lie
22:12.57XhoOr what Xhodocto anyway
22:14.14XhoIf it's Santorakh then the Dominion's infrastructure is certainly in trouble
22:14.49XhoSantorakh doesn't care if the Dominion exists or not, so if he suddenly decides to make it go haywire then it's all to his amusement
22:15.17XhoSo considering that hasn't happened I'd say allegiances lie closer to either Krath or Draguros
22:15.36XhoCertainly not Angazhar either otherwise Hez and Kitoruka would be less suspicious
22:17.03XhoSo he's the dark horse of the bunch
22:17.05Xhono pun intended
22:17.59OluapPlayerneigh
22:18.42Xhohttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/cf/Auatorom2016Spine.png/revision/latest?cb=20160916182404 I had to post a picture of this because of dat spine
22:21.52DrodoEmpireOh cool
22:24.05XhoA grudge match between Hez and Nai would probably rate on the interstellar level easily
22:24.46XhoThat being said I've toned down their powers a lot
22:25.04XhoHez at his apex was near-universal, now he's just destructive at that level
22:25.06XhoSame with Nai
22:25.19DrodoEmpireHmm, right
22:26.04XhoNai could possibly do worse depending on the magnitude of the essence he controls
22:27.23XhoIn terms of power gaps, it would sharply jump up to Kitoruka's level who could do intergalactic and then Kithworto of who is universal at least
22:28.06XhoReasons for Kithworto not challenging the Dominion is that if Kithworto did challenge the Dominion then the Xhodocto would bitchslap the divinity out of him
22:29.53DrodoEmpireDrodo - pls
22:30.17OluapPlayerKithworto - TIME TO DIE            Santorakh - cheese          Kithworto - oh
22:30.30XhoThat and Kithworto is essentially a retired character so
22:31.09XhoThe most powerful character I have is Maktanshatin before it jumps into Chaos levels
22:31.25XhoAfter that it's Anzilanarus and then the Xhodocto
22:33.42OluapPlayerI've adopted a more flexible point of view regarding power. My characters are generally as powerful as the plot demands and the setting allows
22:33.54XhoThat's how it ends up anyway hur
22:34.10XhoIf the degrees of essence powers were fixed then wars would be over quickly
22:34.58OluapPlayerI've no idea how my essence users compare to Regnatus but I like to think of him as equal to Shu'wokerama at least
22:35.40XhoRegnatus is effectively an artificial god so it makes sense
22:36.07OluapPlayerpower through lots of goo and angry ramblings
22:36.31XhoGenerally speaking the only fixed degree of power is the Xhodocto which is multiple degrees beyond infinity
22:36.58XhoAnd then all of their power is based on Santorakh talking about cheese
22:37.01Xhogg
22:37.41OluapPlayerShu'rimrodir and Sonhadromerith are equals yet they're both fallible considering they've both died at least once
22:37.50XhoAngazhar - honk
22:37.56XhoI couldn't really measure Kithworto's power but it appears to be on par or superseding Anzilanarus so he's op as fuck
22:38.12OluapPlayerreason: n/a
22:38.19XhoWhich is why he got banned from fiction
22:38.45OluapPlayerKithworto - ADMIN ABUSE
22:38.51XhoSantorakh - quiet
22:39.12XhoIf he supersedes Anzilanarus he's one step below the Xhodocto
22:39.19XhoAlthough the step is infinitely big
22:39.37XhoSo Kithworto is basically the wiki's power ceiling
22:39.41OluapPlayerKithworto is the guy screaming ADMIN ABUSE, Nu is the guy screaming DELETE THIS
22:40.06XhoKrath - i am the law
22:40.35OluapPlayerrp_firstgigaquadrant
22:40.58XhoKithworto - more like ttt_firstgigaquadrant jesus christ
22:41.50XhoThat being said Kithworto doesn't control Chaos Energy so he is potentially under Anzilanarus
22:42.10XhoIf Nai-Ar'natl's degree is unlimited then he's above Kithworto so it's up to speculation
22:42.54XhoSo it's likely Nai-Ar'natl has an extreme limit on what he can do with it
22:43.11XhoIt probably manifests more like a black Entropic Energy
22:43.14Xhoor Demonic
22:43.22XhoOr whatever chaotic essence
22:45.10XhoIf we're going by the VS Battles tiering system then Kithworto ranks in at 1-C or possibly 1-B
22:45.22XhoAnzilanarus is 1-B or 1-A and then the Xhodocto are 0
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22:56.43Charles_Murray"Germany will no longer keep sending harshly-worded demands to a Czech government that no longer exists demanding the Sudetenland and puzzling over the lack of a response." - HOI4 patchnotes
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22:59.44DrodoEmpireayy lmao
23:00.07DrodoEmpire"What- They were here a minute ago..."
23:08.47MonetXho: Saw the updates to Nai'ar's page.
23:09.03MonetNai-Ar*
23:09.14Xhoyay
23:09.53XhoOluapPlayer: Nai - shut yo bitch ass up punk ass snake bitch
23:10.08MonetLots angry.
23:10.25DrodoEmpireHey Monet
23:10.27MonetAlso like the tragedy of how he turned to the Chosen.
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23:11.24DrodoEmpirehi Random
23:11.33The_Randomnesshey
23:14.22MonetOut of the other lords he seems to have the least contempt for Maleus
23:15.59MonetMight have said that wrong
23:16.08MonetI need to use him more.
23:16.32XhoHe can somewhat sympathise with Maleus
23:17.54MonetUnderstandable given their histories.
23:18.51MonetHave to agree with Hez'Kalka on the circle. Seems were it not for their shared loyalty to the gods, they'd all try killing each other.
23:19.33XhoEven then it's a little tenuous
23:19.48XhoAll it would take is for one Xhodocto to break the balance
23:20.24MonetCould be a possible story.
23:21.02MonetWouldn't be the first time the Xhodocto pitted their servants against each other.
23:22.13DrodoEmpireI do wonder if the Xhodocto so much as *care* if their vassals fight
23:22.20DrodoEmpireGiven how powerful they are
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23:23.18DrodoEmpirehi
23:23.27Wormy_Cyrannnian|Away:  No more of that spaceship of yours its not sea-worthy!
23:23.38Wormy_* Cyrannian|Away:  No more of that spaceship of yours its not sea-worthy!
23:23.49Wormy_hi
23:24.21Wormy_Kept falling through Cyrannian's ship into space and crashing and now STO is broken :<
23:24.33Cyrannian|AwayWhat is life without the risk of falling endlessly through space
23:24.51MonetLivable
23:25.17Wormy_tries to go into STO again
23:25.32Wormy_I think Toberek's lost to the void
23:25.48MonetSomething did just come to mind: Do these ten lords hold dominion over the Dominion's holdings across the multiverse or just the Onuris universe?
23:25.54XhoDrodoEmpire: They don't, if the endless universes theory is anything to go by the Dominion is but a fleeting moment in an infinite occurrence of universes being born and dying
23:25.58XhoJust the Onuris Universe
23:26.34Cyrannian|AwayWormy_: He died as he lived, fleeing my green rolls of flesh
23:27.03MonetStarfleet is doomed.
23:27.03Wormy_No where to hide, not even space
23:28.55MonetXho: Probably better that way. Less insanity to contemplate.
23:29.21Wormy_I can't get over how glitched up that Enterprise map is
23:29.27XhoI don't think any of them have the mental capacity to deal with the multiversal theory
23:30.52MonetExcept maybe TDP.
23:31.36MonetDivin-Ra is supposed to be the overqueen of the Mali'Nar across the multiverse. TDP being her second-in-command.
23:32.28DrodoEmpireXho: Makes sense
23:32.31XhoPerhaps
23:32.41XhoActually Kitoruka is aware of it
23:32.49XhoHe's a Xi'Arazulha after all
23:33.54MonetMaleus probably not. Though given his history I wonder about his status over the demons of Inferno.
23:36.41MonetCould be more akin to "any demon I can kick the shit out of is a subordinate"
23:36.54Xhomight makes right
23:37.28MonetOr he's got a little stockpile of damned souls.
23:38.14MonetSo there's either force or bribery.
23:41.02MonetProbably mostly force.
23:42.37XhoBribing won't work on an order of species that are barely sentient
23:43.12MonetI was thinking it would be more like bribing wolves with meat to not eat you.
23:45.33MonetAlthough from what you say, it sounds like facewrecking a local alpha demon is more effective.
23:47.30XhoPretty much
23:47.47XhoSamut'angar have a tribal culture, save for the sophisticated lot
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23:50.41XhoThe Samut'angar's position in the Dominion is quite high on the basis that they're Angazhar's servants
23:50.56XhoSince Hez is Angazhar's servant they're automatically higher
23:51.21XhoHierarchy in the Dominion ultimately depends on which governing force has the most followers in power
23:51.37XhoAs a trend, Angazhar is the most dominant one
23:52.40XhoIt rarely goes outside of either Angazhar or Krathazhrukhal
23:52.53XhoDraguros is too enigmatic and Santorakh is not a figure of power
23:54.09MonetLucky Maleus is a Krath follower then
23:55.32XhoThe Dominion's hierarchy is complicated enough to tell that it's only by popularity that you're really in power
23:55.41XhoOr if you can present the largest threat of mass destruction
23:56.56XhoAnd that's not political popularity either
23:57.07MonetWell Maleus is something of a preacher.
23:57.10XhoDominion politics rarely extends outside of theocratic might
23:57.13XhoWell there you go
23:58.22MonetHmm I guess that makes Maleus fairly significant on the council.

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