IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160915

00:04.17Monetgoodnight
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00:06.34Quark8Hello.
00:12.17DrodoEmpireHey
00:32.07Quark8test
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00:32.45HachimanHello
00:32.46Quark8Hello Hachiman.
00:33.01DrodoEmpireHi
00:33.22DrodoEmpireThinking of a new Klaxon, that or a new news report on the Silvan thing
00:34.19Quark8In-universe shitposting is always better than news.
00:34.48HachimanDepends on the shitpost in question
00:38.45DrodoEmpireYeah
00:38.57DrodoEmpireNot much as gone on, and the news story I had planned had some real action in it >.<
00:39.32Quark8In that case, I'd go for the news.
00:40.05DrodoEmpireFair enough
00:40.12DrodoEmpireMight be tomorrow but we'll see
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00:45.08Quark8Hey.
00:48.59Quark8Bloody hell I have a Mac security warning. Last time this happened Safari wouldn't work for me at all.
00:49.51DrodoEmpireHuh
00:50.47Quark8I'm unsure how to fix it though, and my parents will be pissed when they find out that I caused a problem *again*.
01:01.27DrodoEmpireYeah its gonna be all-out war between the Drodo and Silvan in the next news thing >.<
01:01.36DrodoEmpireNo longer a relatively minor crisis
01:02.36DrodoEmpireWell, its still a single world, so minor by comparison to the gigaquadrant
01:03.15DrodoEmpireBut now there's a big risk to the Drodo population, infrastructure, etc. on a major world
01:03.34TybusenLevisala - why don't ya just nuke them
01:03.42DrodoEmpirehur
01:03.52DrodoEmpireNew Aratacian - we have standards <.<
01:04.02DrodoEmpireNew Aratacian - Also we have pretty hills, good for tourism
01:04.12DrodoEmpireNew Aratacian - radioactive hills, bad for tourism
01:06.53TybusenLevisala - i'm pretty sure you get tourism from Great Works only
01:07.28TybusenLevisala - and world wonders but I don't know if the world congress took up Cultural Heritage Sties
01:07.56Hachimaninb4 New Aratacia was an inside job
01:08.31DrodoEmpireayy lmao
01:08.32Tybusensteel beams can't melt nuclear wessels
01:09.04DrodoEmpireNah, on the contrary I'm thinking a bunch of Drodo militia might stage an all-out bayonet charge in one pitched battle
01:09.21DrodoEmpireAs a breakout, probably, under fire from Silvan skirmishers
01:11.12TybusenDrodo General - this one's right out of the playbook of my greatest inspiration, General Pickett
01:11.23DrodoEmpireolol
01:11.55DrodoEmpireActually yeah considering Drodo militiamen don't wear the sorta armour Drodo regulars do it'd be quite a risky move
01:13.16DrodoEmpireI think New Aratacian militia infantry in particular wear an outfit similar to this - http://www.cmhg.gc.ca/cmh/book_images/high/v2_c7_s04_ss02_01.jpg
01:13.35HachimanI gotta ask
01:13.37DrodoEmpireConservative as far as Drodo uniforms go, but definitely a show of wealth
01:13.40HachimanWhy don't they wear armour
01:13.43DrodoEmpire*for the world
01:13.56DrodoEmpireToo expensive to outfit irregulars with armour
01:14.12DrodoEmpireThere's millions of them, made up of parttime, blue-collar folks
01:14.34HachimanBut it seems like nearly all Drodo military units other than their robo-horses keep to uniforms instead of armour
01:14.43DrodoEmpireNot really
01:14.45HachimanAlthough please do clarify if they do have armoured soldiers
01:15.02DrodoEmpireDrodo infantry- professionals, the regulars who fight offensively- wear armour
01:15.06DrodoEmpireQuite advanced armour
01:15.13Tybusen"I'm sure in 2810 they'll be selling powered full-body armor at every corner drug store, but in 2016 powered armor is a little hard to come by"
01:15.46DrodoEmpirebasically its a light powered exoskeleton, doesn't add much bulk but significantly increases a Drodo's already uncanny agility and increases load-bearing abilities
01:16.20DrodoEmpireIts worn on top of a grey uniform, and polymer armoured plates are fitted on after that which can easily deflect weapons weaker than, well, Drodo military-grade ones
01:16.49DrodoEmpireDrodo cavalry don't too often wear armour, not much beyond a bulletproof harness or vest under their tunic
01:17.06DrodoEmpireThey have shielding, and armour would be cumbersome
01:17.20DrodoEmpireHeavy cavalry would wear armour however
01:18.37DrodoEmpireSo yeah, Drodo regulars are an imposing sight for sure, what with many weapons plinking off of their armour
01:19.03DrodoEmpireKnock the wearer on his ass, take the air out of his lungs maybe, but perfectly alright
01:24.28Wormy_Hachiman, DrodoEmpire:  Hahah the Amazon assistant in this glitched up "Reorder me Dim Sung"  "Okay, I will order from Ping Pong"  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/37367448
01:24.31Wormy_racist robot
01:28.17DrodoEmpirehur
01:28.35DrodoEmpireHachiman Tybusen sorry for the ramble, hope that makes sense? ..<
01:28.37DrodoEmpire*>.<
01:29.08DrodoEmpiretl;dr regular infantry do, cavalry often wear light armour, planetary govts. are too stingey for any major armour equipment
01:31.37DrodoEmpireThough, if you want to see power armour I *do* have one other big news story planned
01:52.01Charles_BotFrench infantry tend to have stormtrooper-like pressurizeable suits enhanced by light powered exoskeletons.
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01:52.36Wormy_https://www.facebook.com/theCHIVE/videos/10154558632501742/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED
01:55.48DrodoEmpireCharles_Bot: Yeah, describes Drodo infantry reasonably well too
01:55.53DrodoEmpireIn a short-form sorta way >.<
01:56.09DrodoEmpireWhat would French militia look like? Would they be organised?
01:56.48DrodoEmpire(In the Drodo Empire, militia are a municipal matter, and tend to be a mixed bag but extremely numerous)
01:57.00Charles_Bot(Might have something to do that the French buy all of their infantry equipment from the Drodo <.< >.> )
01:57.06DrodoEmpirehur
01:57.47DrodoEmpire(In the colonies especially they lack much gear but have a good reputation for their boldness, courage)
01:58.56Charles_BotFrance generally doesn't have a militia system, though on the imperial level the Imperial Gov. can compel territories to organize a National Guard, essentially a service of reservist fighters trained and equipped as professionals which can be mobilized
01:59.32DrodoEmpireMakes sense
01:59.37Charles_BotThis is usually in territories which are, long-term, at risk of attack
01:59.57DrodoEmpireGiven the circumstances in the Drodo Empire, worlds maintain a regularly-drilled militia >.<
02:00.31Charles_BotFrance has mobilized national guard units once before, and that was during the Borealum Crisis, mobilizing all of the territories of French Mirus
02:01.04DrodoEmpireOn top of clan warbands and the like, who depending on their temperament will support, sit-out, or oppose the government in a given matter
02:01.11DrodoEmpireRight, right
02:02.07DrodoEmpire(If there's a foreign invader or threat, warriors will very eagerly support the militia and the government garrison naturally)
02:03.02DrodoEmpire(On the flipside, if the local govt. abuses its people too harshly the people'll turn on them- and the militia aren't inclined to take the government's side >.<)
02:25.06DrodoEmpire1632 has to be one of my favourite books ever
02:25.23DrodoEmpireJust- wow, the accuracy, the feeling of progress, everything's perfect >.<
02:25.34DrodoEmpireIts so goddamn *detailed*
02:25.56DrodoEmpireI actually grin when I read it, its awesome
03:44.10Tek0516I think I just wiped out an entire enemy nation's military capacity in Stellaris without losing a single vessel. :D
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04:33.02Tek0516I'm a little disappointed. Fought the whole war myself and the enemy took the developed planet. :P
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10:01.35HachimanHello
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10:37.23Monethi
10:38.26Monethold on brb
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11:57.27Wormy_good on him http://imgur.com/gallery/nC7uVXk
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12:03.11Wormy_well http://imgur.com/gallery/P7jP5
12:03.13Wormy_hi
12:04.51OluapPlayerhi
12:04.52Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/Fq4yw
12:05.31Hachimantfw you accidentally destroy your parents' marriage over a bit of Soreen
12:08.43OluapPlayerwot
12:11.41HachimanI asked my stepdad about having a piece of Soreen - a brand of malt loaf - which I mentioned had been around for a while and was wondering if he was gonna eat it, then mum chimed in and said that it's going out of date and that he has lunch already bought so he wouldn't have time to eat it himself
12:11.42HachimanAnd then for some reason they start verbally attacking each other and shouting
12:12.47HachimanNow mum's gone off in her car to God knows where and my stepdad is pissed off at everything
12:12.48Wormy_What animals would look like if they had eyes at the front http://imgur.com/a/xUqbY
12:14.13Wormy_Sounds like tensions were already high
12:15.19HachimanI might just take the initiative and move out at some point because I don't want to be at the centre of this shit
12:17.03Wormy_understandable
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12:23.51JepardiHi
12:25.48GhelaeHello.
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14:11.58HachimanImpyDroid: Have you read Doctrina yet
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14:12.58HachimanImpyDroid2: Have you read Doctrina yet
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14:31.26Monethello
14:32.03GhelaeHello.
14:35.42Wormy_https://www.newscientist.com/article/2105362-drones-get-first-anti-laser-lasers-to-stop-being-shot-down/
14:37.42GhelaeIt's nice how the final paragraph raises the possibility of anti-anti-laser lasers.
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15:34.00OluapPlayerHachiman ImpyDroid Monet: https://www.dawnofwar.com/article/unit-spotlight-jonah Look who's back
15:34.25HachimanOh boy
15:34.34MonetIS he red now?
15:35.28MonetActualyl nvm, it was just the lighting
15:35.41OluapPlayerYeah he's still black
15:38.53MonetThat Stonewall + Fury of the Ancients combo sounds brutal.
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15:50.17TreebeardHello
15:52.10GhelaeHello.
15:54.05Tek0516So apparently Rosetta found complex organic molecules on the comet.
15:55.47Hachimanayy lmaos confirmed
15:56.34Tek0516And according to the report, more complex than they expected: "“Our analysis reveals carbon in a far more complex form than expected,” remarked Hervé Cottin, one of the authors of the paper reporting the result that is published in Nature today. “It is so complex, we can’t give it a proper formula or a name!”"
15:57.58MonetDid they say what compount it might resemble?
15:58.10Monetcompound*
15:59.52Tek0516Here's the ESA article: http://blogs.esa.int/rosetta/2016/09/07/rosetta-catches-dusty-organics/
16:03.56MonetSodium silicon, carbon...
16:04.24GhelaeI would think it's something similar to tholin formation, but without as much loss of hydrogen and with the addition of all of those impurities.
16:05.30MonetIt look like we have alkanes, maybe alkynes
16:05.52Tek0516I know it's not comet aliens or anything but it's still interesting. :P
16:06.27GhelaeQuite a fair amount of the comments seem to be people suggesting comet aliens...
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16:07.09Luxoray
16:07.22LuxorA lil' question regading english grammar:
16:07.31Monet“It is so complex, we can’t give it a proper formula or a name!” this and the resence of all these hydrocarbons suggests a very complex polymer
16:07.32Luxor'which was soon to embroil Zeawelan in destructive war.'
16:07.50Luxoris that correct? Not sure if tense is.
16:08.04MonetOr something like hexane, but more massive.
16:08.16MonetSO at the very least, we have space-petrol.
16:09.42GhelaeLuxor: It looks fine to me.
16:09.47Luxoryay.
16:09.59GhelaeIf it were a polymer, it would be easily named. It's something large and non-repeating.
16:10.13MonetAh yes, true.
16:11.17GhelaeAlthough I'm sure you could always pick out individual monomers occasionally.
16:11.53MonetTHe most abundant element is an alkane-type monomer
16:12.38Monetmolecule*
16:13.36GhelaeSeems reasonable. Tholins form when e.g. methanes are stripped of hydrogen and bond to each other. Multiple methanes stripped of one H each will bond to form alkanes.
16:13.47Ghelaeone or two*
16:14.08Ghelaeor three or four
16:14.20Ghelaejust as long as they don't form double bonds and become alkenes.
16:15.41MonetThere also appears to be an abundance of...Tantalum?
16:16.11MonetWait I'm reading the m/z wrong
16:16.37MonetEither Arsenic or Germanium
16:17.38GhelaeI thought you meant what looked like a bump at 73.
16:17.55MonetI do.
16:18.27MonetI thought m/z was the atomic number.
16:18.41GhelaeOh, yes.
16:18.55GhelaeMass of 73 is more like arsenic.
16:19.17MonetYeah I realised my mistake when iron was registered at 55.9.
16:21.11MonetCould Kenneth have picked up large quantities of silanes
16:22.28MonetThere's a lot of silicon, a lot of hydrogen, but minute/no oxygen.
16:24.00MonetWhich rules out the presence of the silicon being silicon dioxide.
16:25.07GhelaeI guess there might be some silanes there, but I don't think it accounts for all of the silicon.
16:25.55MonetYeah. SO not all, but some at least.
16:26.46MonetWhat are the chances journalists might go with the comet aliens idea? High? Reasonably high?
16:30.16OluapPlayerI'd make fantastic clickbait
16:31.21MonetYeah, even if the 'alien life' bit is just the chemistry for alien life
16:31.57HachimanEVIDENCE OF ALIEN LIFE FOUND ON COMET BY NASA PROBE
16:32.07Wormy_The Express, probably
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16:45.58Monettesting
16:55.07Wormy_https://twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/776413801763647488
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17:04.46Tek0516Ooh, Stellaris DLC announced.
17:05.51Tek0516Or rather they're calling it a "story pack" http://steamcommunity.com/games/281990/announcements
17:08.20Tek0516So you have the Heinlein patch changing basically everything and then the Leviathans DLC adding depth and lore.
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17:42.32ImperiosMonet: http://2ch.hk/sw/src/44279/14739590823280.png Where do these outfits come from?
17:42.40ImperiosThey seem recogniseable but I can't put a finger on it
17:43.12MonetKylo's wearing Padme's outfit from Episode II
17:43.50MonetRei's wearing Luke's outfit from Episode VI
17:44.28Monethttps://content.pulse.ea.com/content/starwars-ea-com/en_US/starwars/battlefront/news-articles/the-heroes-of-star-wars--battlefront---luke-skywalker/_jcr_content/featuredImage.img.jpg
17:44.41ImperiosHe looks evil
17:44.44Monethttps://i.imgur.com/AhO6Wda.jpg
17:46.38Monethttps://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51X9fBloFnL._SL1277_.jpg due to the lighting and camera resolution of the old movies, any stills from VI make Luke's torso pitch-black
17:48.20Monethttp://i.imgur.com/Cu9n1qS.jpg see what I mean
17:52.29ImperiosMonet: http://2ch.hk/sw/src/44279/14674999761800.jpg What the Wormy_away
17:53.07ImperiosMonet: http://2ch.hk/sw/src/44279/14675060830800.jpg
17:53.11Wormy_away10/10
17:54.11Monet<PROTECTED>
18:07.44Wormy_awayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97mZcFagi-w
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18:27.16ImperiosMonet: The 40k Goffz checkerboard armour is based on British hooligans, right?
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18:54.37Wormy_awayI think I've found the stupidest video ever https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GTCLe1DBZY
18:55.34DrodoEmpirehur
18:59.09Tek0516O.o My laptop charger is beeping.
18:59.15DrodoEmpire???
18:59.50Tek0516yells "IT'S A BOMB" and runs
19:01.43Monetsays "A BOMB" very flatly
19:01.49Tek0516https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/RXfOuAZU/20160915_145821.mp4
19:03.01DrodoEmpirehur
19:03.16DrodoEmpireWeird
19:03.52Tek0516The sound frequency rose and then suddenly stopped.
19:04.14DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#.E2.80.A2LIVE:_Silvan_Raids_Intensify_on_New_Aratacia - An enormous Silvan army invades Drodo territory
19:04.16Wormy_awayNever say the b word on the internet.  But yes, run
19:04.46DrodoEmpireWormy_away: What if I'm talking about Counter Strike <.<
19:05.36Wormy_awayBecause its well known [cough Fox news cough] that terrorists trade secret codes on Counter Strike and make their evil plans and strategies
19:05.59DrodoEmpirehur
19:06.19DrodoEmpireYeah guys, we'll be *really* well prepared if we ever have to attack a scale replica of de_dust2
19:06.20DrodoEmpire<.<
19:06.57Tek0516Wormy_away: Either the frequency is above my hearing range or it's gone. :P Strangely my laptop wasn't even plugged in, just the charger connected to power.
19:07.30Wormy_awayMaybe there's a mouse in there
19:08.12DrodoEmpirehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/Csar6BQWAAAEWbX.jpg:large C:
19:08.31Tek0516Considering the long roll of electrical tape on one part of the cord maybe I should just use a newer charger. :P
19:09.03DrodoEmpirehur yeah
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19:12.37XhoMESHUGGAH
19:13.05DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#.E2.80.A2LIVE:_Silvan_Raids_Intensify_on_New_Aratacia - Big invasion
19:13.05DrodoEmpire<.<
19:19.01Tek0516DrodoEmpire: Oh, and if you weren't here earlier they announced the new DLC for Stellaris.
19:19.09DrodoEmpireOh really?
19:19.11DrodoEmpireWhat's it?
19:19.19Tek0516http://steamcommunity.com/games/281990/announcements
19:20.07Tek0516"Story pack" called Leviathans
19:20.09DrodoEmpireNiiice
19:20.14DrodoEmpireI like the sound of it
19:23.47ImperiosMonet Xho: Would you say the cross on the Empire of Man's flag is appropriate?
19:23.51ImperiosI wonder if I should remove it
19:26.06Imperioshttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/2c/Crux_Humanitatis.png/revision/latest?cb=20131130190706
19:26.36ImperiosMonet: Did I tell you about my politology tutor?
19:26.51MonetImperios: I don't think you have.
19:27.16Imperios*lecturer even
19:27.17ImperiosE
19:27.36ImperiosApparently he is a former army colonel and a communist
19:32.16ImperiosWhen I first saw him I thought he was a zealous authoritarisn
19:32.21ImperiosI thought wrong
19:32.30MonetWell he was a colonel.
19:32.41ImperiosHe strongly believes in democracy and made a few speeches today about the importance of election
19:32.51Imperioselections and all that
19:32.59ImperiosStill hates America though
19:35.53ImperiosMonet: "The main difference between Russian external politics and American external politics is their goals: we merely wish to protect our foreign interests, while America seeks to control the world."
19:35.56Imperios^ he literally said that
19:36.56ImperiosHe also treats the current situation in the Middle East as a way for the US to pit the local powers against each other
19:37.08ImperiosHe called it "the classic British trick"
19:37.18Imperios(that the US inherited)
19:38.54XhoSee an American would say the same but about the Russians
19:39.30DrodoEmpireEh, he might have a point to be fair
19:39.33DrodoEmpireBut I dunno
19:39.39ImperiosAbout the Middle East, kind of
19:39.46DrodoEmpireI mean the US undeniably has something of an empire
19:40.10DrodoEmpireRussia is aggressive, but I wouldn't call them imperial from what I know of their actions\
19:40.22ImperiosThe main difference is our, well, power level
19:40.33XhoRussia's power level is LESS THAN 9000
19:40.45ImperiosAs much as we are ashamed of it, it is true
19:41.24Tek0516DrodoEmpire: I don't know why but I think I screwed up on my Stellaris game: borders closed, non-aggression pacts broken... All I did was legalize slavery and purge of xenos. >.>
19:41.31ImperiosDrodoEmpire: He kind of makes sense and is generally very intelligent, he's just, dunno, passionate about it
19:42.19ImperiosAnd very jingoistic. He complains that we as a people now lack an ideology and an overall goal like they did in the USSR
19:42.44ImperiosWhich is TBH pretty weird, the very reason we lost the war is because our ideal failed
19:42.55ImperiosWe  failed to build communism
19:44.06MonetMaybe you needed a more suitable ideology.
19:44.57ImperiosOurs was very much far-fetched
19:45.05MonetCommunism worked restoring the country from the mess the Romanovs made of it.
19:45.29ImperiosWhen I say communism I do not mean communism as an ideology, I mean communism as in the theoretical society proposed by communists
19:45.44Imperios"WE MUST BUILD A SOCIETY WHERE ALL ARE COMPLETELY EQUAL AND STATE IS DEFUNCT BY 1980"
19:45.50Imperios*THE STATE
19:45.54MonetThere was still poverty and starvation but at least people weren't buying bread with wheelbarrows full of rubles.
19:45.59Imperios^ That kind of line of thinking was retarded
19:46.08ImperiosWe needed a more grounded goal
19:47.06ImperiosThe US fared much better in that case, in that they at least did not believe their main goal was to build an utopia
19:48.23MonetKind of. The American Dream was a very real desire. Although at the same time, there have been critics who believed it was exactly a dream and weren't persecuted for it.
19:48.48ImperiosThat too, and that as far as I understand is one aspect of Soviet society that our lecturer *does* not like
19:49.19ImperiosHe believes the elites' willingness to listen to their electorate is key
19:49.21MonetThe American Dream iirc was: A house in the suburbs, a car, a wife, two kids. A nice job in the city.
19:49.46MonetOr that anyone, no matter who you were could make it in the United States.
19:49.51ImperiosTBH if you think about that is how we got people like Khruschev
19:50.02ImperiosThen again, look at people like Hillary in the US nowadays
19:50.11ImperiosThey are pretty distanced from the people too
19:50.33MonetI dunno I hear Hillary is a lovely lady when you actually talk to her.
19:51.19MonetBut I can see peoples' point.
19:51.59ImperiosHe kind of sounds like a fierce revolutionary except he hates revolutions
19:52.12ImperiosI dunno he is like Bernie but with more badassery
19:54.18MonetOne issue might be the U.S. is not homogenous.
19:55.04ImperiosFrankly, the lack of homogenity both in America and Russia kind of irks me
19:55.10ImperiosSame about the UK I guess
19:55.16ImperiosI mean look at our countries
19:55.27MonetWhat an upstate New York tennis coach feels is best for the nation might be a dreaded image for a farmer in Wyoming.
19:55.38ImperiosThey are all some motley collections of ethnic groups that have very little in common
19:55.47ImperiosWe're held together more by inertia than anything
19:56.50ImperiosYou have the Queen to hold the British Isles together, we had communism, now we have... the common hatred of America to unite us I guess
19:57.04MonetHmm yeah
19:57.38ImperiosFor some reason, I kind of feel now that maybe the idea of a nation-state is still relevant for the modern era
19:58.08ImperiosMaybe it's from my surroundings, I hear a lot of racist or nationalist talk from my friends
19:58.13ImperiosOf all nations too
19:58.26ImperiosA Russian may complain to me about Armenians, a Tatar about Russians, etc
19:58.57MonetI'm not so sure.
19:59.10ImperiosI'm like the neutral side that people can complain to so I hear a lot of this
19:59.25ImperiosYou guys are more civil, but I think it's the same in your country
19:59.31ImperiosI mean look at Scots
20:00.42MonetThere is a fair bit of nationalism, but nationalism is easy when foreigners are rare.
20:00.58ImperiosIT gets worse when foreigners are common though
20:01.05ImperiosI had a friend from Moscow
20:01.14ImperiosHoly shit this guy is racist as fuck
20:01.16MonetDepends how they integrate I guess
20:02.01MonetLondon's famous as one of the most cosmopolitan cities in the UK. It shows as you can walk down Embankment and see almost every ethinicity under the sun.
20:02.29ImperiosThing is, even integration does not stop racism and overall distrust
20:02.49ImperiosI think I talked to you about that girl on the Korean course
20:03.02Imperios"Were you dating a RUSSIAN?"
20:03.22ImperiosThat's what she said, and we're all completely integrated and speak Russian as our first language
20:03.38MonetTrue. It's an extension of the playground paradigm where different = pick on them
20:04.12XhoSo I'm remaking the Auatorom race
20:04.20Imperios^^ That
20:04.22XhoI'm thinking of giving them a tail so they resemble scorpions
20:04.33ImperiosI feel like people will never stop being xenophobic tribal fucks
20:04.44ImperiosMight as well  take that into consideration
20:05.49MonetXho: So a scorpion tail?
20:06.20Xhoyup
20:06.21MonetImperios: Yeah the smartest option perhaps is to make the foreigners part of the tribe.
20:07.01MonetMany Muslims in London who don't get bothered get left alone because they've effectively gone native.
20:08.13ImperiosYeah that's true I guess
20:08.29ImperiosSpeaking of Scotland
20:08.41Imperioshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORU8PhMHuYg Holy shit why is her voice so cool
20:09.35MonetProper Scottish accents do sound amazing.
20:12.08ImperiosI still wonder if the UK is going to break apart
20:18.13Xhohttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/de/Auatorom2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20160915201759 aliens
20:19.52MonetI like the horns on the arms.
20:21.51ImperiosXho: Dem pretty scales
20:22.04ImperiosActually Xho can you make the Kaas?
20:22.16ImperiosWell, Kaas mobile units
20:22.32ImperiosBasically the drone bodies they use for communication with organics
20:24.25Xhohm
20:25.01XhoAny ideas in mind for their appearance
20:27.25DrodoEmpireSorry, was away >.<
20:28.01ImperiosXho: Not humanoid definitely
20:28.11ImperiosThey should look odd, maybe a bit like birds
20:29.02XhoLet's see what I can come up with
20:29.39XhoSo they're entirely mechanical, hm
20:30.31XhoMight make them in the spaceship editor then
20:32.06ImperiosActually I've made one Kaas unit so you may take that as a base
20:32.29ImperiosLike as a reference
20:32.35XhoIf you made a Kaas unit why am I making it
20:36.20ImperiosThey're supposed to have several body types
20:36.33ImperiosThe one I made is kind of tiny, you could make a starship-level Kaas
20:37.03Imperioshttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/6c/KAAS.png/revision/latest?cb=20160915203653
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21:13.04Wormy_awayImperios:  It would only be a circular fate for the UK to break up into Saxon and Celtic tribes
21:13.18Wormy_awayweirdly fitting
21:20.20Xhohttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/d4/StarshipKaas.png/revision/latest?cb=20160915211827 Well I made those Starship Kaas
21:22.26DrodoEmpireOoh nice
21:36.57MonetVery nice. They look like they're flying in at angles
21:37.14Monetit's actually a somewhat cool sideways view.
21:37.55MonetLike they're asymmetrical down a vertical axis.
21:58.42Technobliteratoraw, Hachi is gone
21:59.04XhoHe hasn't been here for at least 3 hours
21:59.09Xho~seen Hachiman
21:59.11infobothachiman <5aff325c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.255.50.92> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 5h 27m 14s ago, saying: 'EVIDENCE OF ALIEN LIFE FOUND ON COMET BY NASA PROBE'.
21:59.20Xho5 hours even
21:59.31Xhoalso what
22:02.18MonetI made the suggestion that news of organic compounds found on the Rosetta mission might be spun by mass media as evidence for alien life on comets.
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22:13.23The_RandomnessHello
22:14.46Monethello
22:17.55Wormy_awayXho Its Thursday so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOuTRf886kM
22:18.12Xho4
22:42.49DrodoEmpire>Reach for a cookie
22:43.05DrodoEmpire>Bite in to one that somehow managed to sit there for a week despite my cleaning my desk off
22:43.12DrodoEmpire:c
22:43.48The_Randomnessrip
22:54.50DrodoEmpireWelp
22:54.54DrodoEmpireFinished "1632"
22:54.58DrodoEmpireHoooly fuck
22:55.22DrodoEmpireIt has to be one of my favourite books now >.<
22:56.30The_RandomnessWhat's it about?
22:57.13DrodoEmpireIts a very, very strange book
22:58.09DrodoEmpireBasically, its a historical/science fiction novel where an unforeseen supernatural event known as the "Ring of Fire" immediately transplants a small West Virginian coal-mining town dead in the middle of the Holy Roman Empire, in the midst of the Thirty Years' War
22:58.33DrodoEmpireIts available for free by the publisher, I recommend you read it
23:00.11The_Randomness:o
23:03.28Wormy_awayThat tells me you may like this series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Time_Odyssey
23:04.18Wormy_awayBasically these aliens take time periods from Earth's history and stitch them up
23:05.08DrodoEmpireOh, cool
23:05.14MonetI've read vol 1.
23:05.17MonetIt's a good book.
23:05.40Wormy_awayBaxter's also pretty good with imagining historical worlds
23:06.57DrodoEmpireOh?
23:07.03DrodoEmpireYeah its on my list now
23:07.16Wormy_awayI won't say which book because I don't want to spoil (but a different novel), but time gets messed up by aliens again and we see a world dominated by Romans in one timeline and Mayans in another, who basically got access to some hyperspatial technology and reach to the stars anachronistcally
23:07.36Wormy_awayBut its well explained
23:07.44DrodoEmpireOh wow
23:10.19Wormy_awayI also need to take my tier scale accommodate it
23:20.51MonetInteresting but random: was playing about with some copper and silver coins and noticed they stick to the magnetic latch of my phone cover.
23:21.58MonetMust be the nickel.
23:30.06Wormy_awayIf they're British coinage, they are either made of nickel-alloy or steel, but plated with copper.  Some some steels are magnetic.
23:31.30MonetThey're British 2 and 5p coins.
23:40.05DrodoEmpiretest
23:48.32Wormy_awayI'm heading here now, bbs http://imgur.com/gallery/6Wtdm
23:49.58DrodoEmpireOoh
23:50.00DrodoEmpireCool
23:50.09DrodoEmpire*nothing happens*
23:50.12DrodoEmpire<.<
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