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02:57.18 | Wormy_away | Well it took me all night, but I've finished something nearly 2 years in the making http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Recent_works#Years_of_Hyperspace_and_Reflection.3B_2780_to_2815_.28728_to_746_ACS.29.3B_Milky_Way_.26_Gigaquadrant |
02:58.11 | Wormy_away | I'll improve the wording and spelling tomorrow. Also change anything that needs to be |
02:58.11 | DrodoEmpire | Oh cool |
02:58.29 | Wormy_away | And I might write Lunarai's revelation into a short story |
02:59.47 | DrodoEmpire | kk |
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08:01.49 | ImpyDroid2 | Hi |
08:01.59 | ImpyDroid2 | Liquid_Ink: http://photobarone.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Screen-shot-2012-10-04-at-11.13.32-AM.png #Republicans |
08:02.22 | Liquid_Ink | *screams* |
08:02.27 | Liquid_Ink | *claws at eyes* |
08:50.57 | ImpyDroid2 | Liquid_Ink: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1473665977163.png |
08:51.21 | Liquid_Ink | Haha |
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10:28.28 | Hachiman | Hi |
10:28.52 | NeonPanda | hi u |
10:29.00 | NeonPanda | are you aware of a group called Pentatonix? |
10:29.21 | Hachiman | I'm aware of them |
10:30.06 | NeonPanda | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F80FsZDTgn0 this is some of the most on point cyberpunk fashion I've ever seen and I love it disproportionately |
10:32.16 | Hachiman | I mean, if you wanna call that cyberpunk fashion, I'll not argue with you |
10:32.37 | NeonPanda | clearly you have never been to shanghai |
10:33.06 | NeonPanda | the Daft Punk medley has a bit more of hte traditional look |
10:34.05 | NeonPanda | you also forget that I come from the Night City school of cyberpunk, not this shiny triangles everywhere "I never asked for this" nonsense you kids play with :P |
10:35.47 | Hachiman | I never played Deus Ex but even I think that some of the fashion and structural designs there look retarded |
10:36.09 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
10:36.15 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fDZmNUoh0zI/TrTJxCoHXwI/AAAAAAAAbD0/UL_9RbGqJFo/s1600/New-Turkish-%252520Sultan-%252520Ergodan_634435688966711178_main.jpg |
10:36.16 | Hachiman | Hi |
10:36.20 | Hachiman | hur |
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10:46.20 | Liquid_Ink | Yep. |
10:51.44 | Hachiman | So, MatPat the Retard Theorist has made a video discussing that Star Trek's Federation is a malevolent, biased fascist government because they're an anti-capitalist state and claims that exploration in itself is a malign indicator of violent intentions |
10:52.53 | ImpyDroid | Oh God yes that theory was dumb |
10:53.07 | DrodoEmpire | test |
10:53.07 | ImpyDroid | Especially since he claims that the destruction of capitalism is the main fascist goal |
10:53.24 | DrodoEmpire | I mean, UFP is at least communist |
10:53.26 | ImpyDroid | Fascists have always patronized large businesses |
10:53.50 | ImpyDroid | They just incorporated them into their rule |
10:54.02 | DrodoEmpire | Perhaps fascist, I can believe it |
10:54.06 | Hachiman | And that the Federation is wrong for abandoning or getting rid of dissidents, using state equipment for Starfleet captains instead of capitalist brands, for maintaining the flow of communication that keeps the law and order of the Federation |
10:54.24 | ImpyDroid | State equipment for the military makes perfect sense |
10:54.37 | ImpyDroid | Getting rid of dissidents *is* authoritarian |
10:54.41 | DrodoEmpire | "abandoning or getting rid of dissidents" is authoritarian |
10:54.43 | ImpyDroid | I would not call it fascist though |
10:54.57 | DrodoEmpire | But it *can be* fascist |
10:54.58 | ImpyDroid | IMO they are expansionist communists |
10:55.05 | Hachiman | Authoritarian maybe but it's not inherently in itself fascist |
10:55.06 | DrodoEmpire | Like I said they're more communist than anything |
10:55.17 | Hachiman | Because why the fuck would you keep around people who go out of their way to ruin everything |
10:55.21 | ImpyDroid | They aren't fascist because they are not nationalist |
10:55.31 | DrodoEmpire | Hachiman:...That's not necessarily who a dissident is |
10:55.33 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Because freedom of speech |
10:55.54 | DrodoEmpire | Dissidents and people who're going against norms are important for society to develop |
10:58.40 | Hachiman | I'm just saying, barring Kirk, most of the dissidents shown in Star Trek have been or have become war criminals, terrorists, guerilla fighters, etc |
10:59.18 | DrodoEmpire | Because they're the interesting ones :p |
10:59.23 | DrodoEmpire | To a story |
10:59.37 | DrodoEmpire | Its retarded to say *all* or most dissidents look like that |
10:59.51 | Hachiman | Which is why I chose my words carefully and said "shown" |
10:59.53 | DrodoEmpire | Most dissidents are journalists or intellectuals daring to propose something slightly different |
11:00.56 | ImpyDroid | Or scientists, we had a lot of these |
11:00.56 | ImpyDroid | Sakharov etc |
11:00.57 | ImpyDroid | Though that fits into intellectuals |
11:00.59 | Hachiman | And do you recall an episode of Star Trek where the Federation has gone out of its way to fuck over and get rid of journalists and intellectuals instead of Starfleet officers who have intentionally disobeyed military command? |
11:01.22 | ImpyDroid | Fair point actually |
11:02.35 | DrodoEmpire | I'd have to check |
11:02.46 | DrodoEmpire | Why're you so heated? |
11:03.01 | Hachiman | Because MatPat's a retard and he pulls shit out of his ass |
11:03.02 | ImpyDroid | Because Hachi |
11:03.03 | ImpyDroid | duh |
11:03.03 | NeonPanda | it's Hachi, everything ends up heated when he's involved |
11:03.08 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
11:03.17 | ImpyDroid | I would agree with Film Theory's notion that exploration usually means imperialism |
11:03.24 | ImpyDroid | I mean they seem to desire to expand |
11:03.24 | Hachiman | I don't |
11:03.52 | ImpyDroid | Well |
11:03.52 | ImpyDroid | Gimme any human nation that expanded and explored new land and was not imperialist |
11:04.20 | Hachiman | Exploration is not imperialist unless it is imperialists doing the exploring |
11:04.54 | DrodoEmpire | Except that imperialism usually comes *after* people realise there's land to actually conquer :p |
11:04.58 | Hachiman | Do you suggest that the Federation's population remains cramped, compact, and overpopulated as well as starving for construction materials to sustain their hi-tech society? |
11:05.14 | ImpyDroid | Exactly, it feels a need to expand |
11:05.14 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway, they're not one and the same, but they can follow closely |
11:05.40 | DrodoEmpire | (Also tbh I doubt every or even most UFP citizens live as they do on starbases, core worlds, etc.) |
11:05.48 | DrodoEmpire | (But that's a different argument) |
11:05.53 | ImpyDroid | You are not saying it is not imperialist |
11:05.54 | ImpyDroid | You are saying that its imperialism is justified |
11:05.54 | ImpyDroid | Which is true because a growing prosperous society usually expands |
11:05.54 | ImpyDroid | But it is still imperialism |
11:06.01 | ImpyDroid | Again, give me any nation that explored new land and was not imperialist |
11:06.20 | Hachiman | I also wouldn't call the Federation expansive fascists on the basis that they have encountered many fertile, material-rich worlds with primitive cultures and societies inhabiting them and I don't recall an episode where any Starfleet officer suggests "right lets kill / enslave these people and take their shit" |
11:06.40 | ImpyDroid | We are talking about imperialism duh |
11:06.42 | ImpyDroid | Not fascism |
11:06.43 | Hachiman | You know, the basis of the Prime Directive which prevents this kind of thing |
11:06.57 | ImpyDroid | Just colonial expansion |
11:07.50 | Hachiman | So does this mean that Charles Darwin's exploration of the Galapagos Isles was an imperialist agenda? |
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11:09.13 | NeonPanda | well yeah it was |
11:09.30 | NeonPanda | cos Charles was there to assist with the voyage, it wasn't there for his purpose |
11:09.55 | Hachiman | Eh true |
11:10.29 | NeonPanda | the voyages of the Beagle were meant to establish accurate charts of the area, Darwin just did his thing in the off hours |
11:10.48 | NeonPanda | anyway Hachi you bein a dumb |
11:11.00 | Hachiman | Alright, I'll shut up |
11:11.09 | NeonPanda | danke |
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11:13.12 | ImpyAndroid | NeonPanda: I am honestly astounded by your ability to shut Hachi up |
11:13.15 | ImpyAndroid | Teach me |
11:13.19 | NeonPanda | as am I |
11:13.32 | ImpyAndroid | Does he respect you or something |
11:14.40 | NeonPanda | if I had to guess I'd say it's to do with the fact that we're friends, but iunno |
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11:15.05 | Wormy_ | hello |
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11:15.36 | ImpyDroid2 | So are we but I cannot shut him up |
11:16.10 | ImpyDroid2 | Granted I am one of the few people here who are as neurotic as Hachi so my efforts are more or less spewing gasoline on fire |
11:18.53 | Wormy_ | Something up? |
11:21.37 | NeonPanda | nah |
11:22.21 | ImpyDroid2 | Already done |
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12:00.20 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: https://66.media.tumblr.com/197c3a79f4a371aa82e2c28e978e6018/tumblr_oa65y1bsvn1u5jc0no1_400.jpg |
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12:14.45 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: Does Maryah have a crown? |
12:14.47 | ImpyDroid | HI |
12:14.51 | ImpyDroid | *Hi |
12:15.03 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
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12:57.59 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f278/katietiedrich/comic475_zpsdbm8ptzi.png |
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13:01.24 | Monet | Hello |
13:01.54 | OluapPlayer | hi |
13:21.31 | Technobliterator | hahahahaha |
13:25.40 | Monet | http://kotaku.com/the-last-guardian-delayed-again-because-of-course-1786521693 well shit. |
13:27.17 | Technobliterator | Kotaku :| |
13:27.28 | OluapPlayer | Kotaku aside, it's true |
13:27.34 | OluapPlayer | Only comes out in december now |
13:28.04 | Technobliterator | I mean, it's unsurprising |
13:28.13 | Technobliterator | My worry is it'll be disappointing when it releases |
13:28.23 | Monet | Duke Nukem Syndrome. |
13:29.55 | OluapPlayer | Last Guardian will probably not suffer the same DNF did |
13:30.12 | Technobliterator | Ghelae, Wormy_, Monet, can you guys submit a statement from your factions for the Loron trial? As in, a statement on what they think should become of them? |
13:30.13 | OluapPlayer | DNF changed hands multiple times during development, Last Guardian hasn't |
13:30.16 | Monet | GamesRadar also made an article if you guys don't like Kotaku. |
13:30.35 | Technobliterator | Kotaku have been improving lately |
13:30.46 | Technobliterator | But there was a time when basically all their articles were clickbait |
13:31.38 | Monet | Lingering in Development Hell can still sabotage a game's success. |
13:32.47 | Monet | And with clickbait I'm somewhat neutral. Tabloid sensationalism is a *really* old practice, clickbait is just tabloid headlining for the internet age. |
13:32.54 | OluapPlayer | DNF was badly received because it was an outdated, sexist, unfunny mess |
13:33.03 | OluapPlayer | I'd know since I endured through all of it |
13:34.03 | Monet | If the story was an interesting read despite a clickbait title then I'm not too bothered myself. |
13:35.02 | Technobliterator | I think that's fair |
13:35.18 | Technobliterator | My only issue is when they post stuff solely opinionated or just baseless rumours |
13:35.23 | Technobliterator | It doesn't happen so often these days |
13:36.06 | Monet | Others might take issue as yeah, it is a misleading practice. Somewhere like Cracked tends to embellish its headline with phrases like "that you won't believe" |
13:36.14 | Hachiman | LAST GUARDIAN DEVS ARE DELAYING AGAIN BECAUSE THE PATRIARCHY BEHIND GAMERGATE DOESN'T WANT ANY FEMALE CHARACTERS |
13:36.57 | Monet | Yeah basically look for the core message and try to screen out the emotion-driving fluff. |
13:38.04 | Technobliterator | Do people still take GamerGate seriously? |
13:38.22 | Wormy_ | Techno: yeah sure, is there a page for me to do that on? |
13:38.36 | Technobliterator | Nah, just post it here |
13:38.47 | Monet | Whenever I see the Sun's adverts in the cinema I initially get confused thinking the advert is talking about the cinema. |
13:39.34 | OluapPlayer | I never really figured what GamerGate was supposed to be |
13:39.37 | Monet | "More action! more drama! more suspense!" - I'm sorry are you selling me a newspaper or a comic book? |
13:40.58 | NeonPanda | so I may have survived a drone attack by hiding in a hollow asteroid until a stray meteorite destroyed the drone |
13:41.17 | Monet | OluapPlayer: I think it was supposed to be about crony games journalism but got hijacked by the feminazi armies of the dread queen Aaita. |
13:41.21 | Monet | Anita* |
13:41.36 | NeonPanda | ^ that basically (in reference to GamerGate) |
13:42.20 | Monet | Like how IGN will give any game that donates a couple of million to them a 9.5/10 |
13:42.50 | Monet | Or they get given a few million to just hype and speculate the fuck out of said game. |
13:43.15 | Hachiman | Go the easy route and just lie to your fanbase without having to pay up |
13:43.34 | Hachiman | And then use all the preorder money to buy ratings |
13:45.33 | Wormy_ | Technobliterator: "The DCP is in favour of extermination of all of Da Rogue Boyz with exception to those aligned with the URO. But barring extermination, the DCP offers a second suggestion: reduce the Loron to the stone age and fortify their planets from orbit to prevent their misery reaching the stars." |
13:45.45 | Technobliterator | Sounds good, thanks! |
13:46.15 | Monet | I think after GamerGate, the "-gate" suffix lost a good deal of its meaning. |
13:47.14 | Technobliterator | Who would be the DCP rep, Wormy? |
13:47.26 | Wormy_ | Hm |
13:48.10 | Wormy_ | Idol Wormulus |
13:48.30 | Technobliterator | sure |
13:49.01 | Wormy_ | Give that he is a galactic guardian of the GCSS it makes sense |
13:49.23 | Technobliterator | mhm |
13:49.37 | Technobliterator | I'll get statements from other people before I push the trial live |
13:53.14 | Tek0516 | Monet: And I'd say "deflategate" was its full death of meaning. |
13:53.32 | Monet | I was looking up. |
13:54.19 | Monet | What about elbowgate? |
13:54.44 | Tek0516 | Ugh. That. |
13:56.53 | Monet | I once applied to a mature corp in EVE and one of the entry requirements was I knew what Watergate was. |
13:57.07 | Tek0516 | The only thing elbowgate did was weaken every major party except the one accused. >.> |
13:59.26 | Tek0516 | Monet: An odd requirement. |
14:00.07 | Ghelae | Technobliterator: As for Apalos, I suppose their suggestion would be something like "It is clear that what we want to avoid is the combination of aggressive Loron cultures and unrestricted access to weaponry. In order to achieve this while adhering to internationally-recognised ethical standards... |
14:00.47 | OluapPlayer | I think ethic standards aren't too relevant in this trial, since 6/7 of the PCA favours their extermination |
14:00.49 | Monet | Technobliterator: "The Draconid Imperium propose that following their rampant aggression and inappropriate behaviour, are in full favour of reducing the Rogue Boyz to a position subservient to URO. To be seen as unfit to integrate into galactic society. Attempts at undermining URO authority by the Loron should be exerted in methods the Republic deems appropriate." |
14:00.52 | Ghelae | ...those Loron who are not aligned with peaceful states should be separated into small groups, deprived of weaponisable technology, and placed under watch to ensure that this state of affairs is maintained. Any who choose to become citizens of other states may be allowed to do so given consent." |
14:01.02 | OluapPlayer | Oh you were in-character |
14:01.04 | OluapPlayer | nevermind hur |
14:01.34 | Technobliterator | Sounds good, will add both you guys |
14:01.35 | Technobliterator | thanks! |
14:01.53 | Technobliterator | Who's the DI rep, Monet? |
14:03.00 | Monet | Tek0516: I think it was an age-screening test. Mature players (I've met Nam war vets playing EVE) |
14:03.25 | Monet | might know the intricacies of the Watergate scandal better. |
14:03.32 | Tek0516 | Ah. |
14:04.05 | Ghelae | Apalos wouldn't openly support the extermination of the Loron, although if pushed for a less ethical alternative they would suggest genetically engineering the Loron so as to completely change their brains into something more intelligent and peaceful. |
14:04.34 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Shall we debut our Zoles viceroy for this? |
14:04.41 | NeonPanda | "we won't kill them, we'll just completely rewrite their biological structure to make them something other" |
14:04.49 | Technobliterator | I think people would agree with that |
14:05.11 | OluapPlayer | Monet: Can do |
14:05.43 | Ghelae | NeonPanda: Exactly. |
14:07.31 | Monet | I've got the name Tarosa Soravius listed. I think that was who we made viceroy for Borealis. |
14:09.15 | OluapPlayer | Right |
14:09.38 | Ghelae | I suppose somebody could ask Apalos "And what if we *don't* have to adhere to ethical standards?" and then they reply with my second suggestion. |
14:11.07 | Technobliterator | oh, sure |
14:11.26 | Wormy_ | Funny how both the Loron and DCP learn the error of their ways in the last few years |
14:19.34 | Monet | Yeah but the Loron might not learn from their errors. |
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14:23.32 | Technobliterator | hi Charles_Murray, can you submit a statement for the Loron trial from France? |
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14:24.05 | Charles_Murray | I can definitely give it a shot. Link? |
14:24.18 | Technobliterator | Nah, just post it here |
14:24.22 | Technobliterator | I'll add it to the titanpad |
14:24.30 | Technobliterator | (which is kept secret because the outcome is secret) |
14:24.42 | Charles_Murray | :o |
14:24.47 | OluapPlayer | spoiler: loron fokin die |
14:24.49 | Technobliterator | also, Imperios, same to you, can I get a statement from the Divinarium during the Loron trial as to what they think should become of them? |
14:25.11 | Imperios | Sure |
14:26.10 | Technobliterator | Just post it here, I'll add it to the final trial |
14:29.14 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: "The Last Guardian development is going brilliantly: this is the shortest release delay in the history of the game!" |
14:29.22 | Technobliterator | hahahaha |
14:29.24 | Technobliterator | so true |
14:37.29 | Technobliterator | bbl gym |
14:48.04 | Charles_Murray | OluapPlayer : Do you know the state of the rogue Loron at the time of the Loron trial? I know that UNO has been liberated, but given Da Rogue Boyz fragmented and dispersed nature, are major non-UNO Loron populations still at large? Or are they all under the power of the Da Reckoning allies? |
14:49.34 | OluapPlayer | Their fleets were defeated and they are under the power of the allies |
14:50.00 | Charles_Murray | Even those dispersed throughout Borealis? |
14:51.12 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
14:54.57 | Charles_Murray | Alright |
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14:55.55 | Treebeard | Hello |
14:56.19 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: http://imgur.com/a/E9xH5 Six flag concepts, which one do you like? |
14:57.01 | OluapPlayer | The fifth one looks the best to me |
14:57.50 | Imperios | http://i.imgur.com/AIVj5Hw.png This one? |
14:58.10 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
14:59.35 | Imperios | This one has the most stuff on it hur |
14:59.41 | Imperios | Rightio |
15:00.46 | Imperios | Also OluapPlayer Monet Hachiman Wormy_: http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Eistland_Indoctrinate_Collective Our number of fanboys grows |
15:01.17 | Imperios | Does this count as plagiarism? |
15:01.30 | OluapPlayer | wut the fuck |
15:01.53 | Imperios | Dracogonarious except WELSH |
15:02.06 | OluapPlayer | Well other than the name, there isn't any actual Indoc Collective in this |
15:02.07 | Imperios | Welsh AND IRISH |
15:02.08 | OluapPlayer | So I guess not |
15:02.14 | Imperios | Well there's |
15:02.17 | Imperios | >Hyper-controlling government |
15:02.35 | Imperios | >their main goals are to explore, research and understand the cosmos |
15:02.47 | Imperios | >Military Crimson Claws |
15:02.59 | OluapPlayer | True |
15:03.09 | OluapPlayer | Well I can't really do anything about it so |
15:03.31 | Imperios | It's a bit hilarious though |
15:03.43 | Imperios | Indoctrinate Collectibe except with magic, and made out of human |
15:03.44 | Imperios | humans |
15:03.50 | Imperios | WELSH AND IRISH humans even |
15:04.16 | Imperios | http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Dravidan_Divinarium FUCK YES |
15:04.17 | Wormy_ | Imperios: I hate it when that happens |
15:04.19 | Imperios | I AM RECOGNISED |
15:04.24 | Imperios | I AM WITNESSED |
15:04.25 | Imperios | SOMEONE |
15:04.29 | Imperios | ACTUALLY CARES ABOUT MY WORK |
15:04.36 | Wormy_ | Btw, updated the technical aspects of http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Vehicle:Station_Halcyon#Technical_Information |
15:04.48 | OluapPlayer | wow |
15:04.51 | Imperios | Also holy shit Indian holyrats |
15:04.58 | OluapPlayer | Can these people not make their own fiction |
15:05.28 | Wormy_ | Fjord League? http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Norwegian_Coalition_of_Planets |
15:05.47 | Imperios | http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Yekatis_Accord It's like a bizzarro Fictionverse |
15:06.43 | Imperios | Feels so weird |
15:06.51 | Wormy_ | Is it just his work or the whole wiki? If they're copying our universe without credit we ought to say something and I will |
15:08.23 | Monet | OluapPlayer: I'd argue "probably not"; much easier to copy what's been done than come up with something new. |
15:08.51 | Imperios | Wormy_: I am doing this right now |
15:09.01 | Wormy_ | He's already using my tier scale |
15:09.23 | Wormy_ | Not that I m ind, but I wouldn't mind credit and a link to my page that explains it |
15:09.40 | Ghelae | There's quite a list on http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Yekatis_Accord |
15:09.47 | OluapPlayer | I suppose plagiarism is the most sincere form of flattery |
15:09.59 | OluapPlayer | Regardless I'll not do anything about it since I doubt they'd care |
15:11.09 | Monet | This looks like one of those sites where it's the norm to take pictures found on Google Images and use them to visualise your fiction. |
15:11.22 | Imperios | http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/The_Civilization Holy shit |
15:12.18 | Charles_Murray | No copy of Spore France? :o |
15:12.26 | Imperios | http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Animaniax#SporeWiki |
15:12.32 | Imperios | Charles_Murray: It's somewhere |
15:12.40 | OluapPlayer | Literally our Civilization |
15:12.47 | Imperios | http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Royal_Technate_of_France Here's that |
15:13.22 | Imperios | http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Animaniax/List_of_my_writing_sources Oh wait |
15:13.23 | Imperios | He mentioned us |
15:14.12 | Monet | Yeah but he hid it away. |
15:14.13 | Imperios | http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Ojamos_Crystal_Alliance Holy shit that flag |
15:14.15 | Charles_Murray | Hahaha |
15:14.30 | Imperios | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/conworld/images/a/a9/Balkan_flag_NR.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150520172011 THIS HERALDRY |
15:14.31 | Imperios | MY EYES |
15:14.33 | Imperios | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH |
15:14.50 | Charles_Murray | "The Constitution of July, 4806 UE, 4th Era, formalized many elements of the empire's government, while removing several others. Such reformations result in broad economic, military, political, and social alliances between the 6th Republic - the Technate's heart and the seat of the central government - and their vast colonial worlds, galaxies, or space orbital dependencies." All of this is a a copy-pasted and heavily edit |
15:15.01 | Charles_Murray | of what's actually on the French Empire's page |
15:16.50 | Imperios | http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Hyperquadrantic_Intergalactic_Treaty_Organization Their GITO is HITO |
15:16.52 | Imperios | GITO |
15:16.57 | Imperios | But with a Ukrainian accent |
15:16.59 | Imperios | HITO |
15:17.44 | Monet | HE's using the same top quote as what's on GITO's page. |
15:18.12 | Charles_Murray | "Hyperquadrantic" |
15:18.15 | Imperios | Hachiman: Dude this is like the perfect discussion for you to join in |
15:18.18 | Imperios | Join in the fun |
15:18.21 | Charles_Murray | When Gigaquadrantic just isn't enough for you |
15:18.25 | Hachiman | E |
15:18.27 | Hachiman | Eh |
15:18.39 | Imperios | There's a Brood of War expy somewhere too |
15:18.41 | Imperios | I think |
15:18.49 | Hachiman | >expying shit fiction |
15:18.51 | Hachiman | Brilliant |
15:18.52 | Imperios | > Delian Superstate |
15:18.59 | Imperios | > Brood of Innsstadt |
15:19.20 | Imperios | http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Bosnian_Remnants |
15:19.24 | Imperios | >Pan-Nazeagar Ecumene's high lords |
15:19.30 | Imperios | Their PAE expy |
15:19.31 | Imperios | IS HEADED |
15:19.33 | Imperios | BY FUCKING |
15:19.34 | Imperios | BOSNIANS |
15:19.36 | Imperios | FUCKING BOSNIANS |
15:19.39 | Charles_Murray | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA |
15:19.45 | Imperios | REMOVE KEBAAAAAAAAAAB |
15:19.48 | Charles_Murray | France - I KNEW IT! |
15:20.08 | Ghelae | There's a gigantic list of nations that user has either created or intended to create: http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/EUROPA_Hyperpowers |
15:20.11 | Charles_Murray | This shall forever be canon in my mind |
15:20.27 | Ghelae | I believe the Ravenrii are Danish: http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Danish_Core_Federation |
15:21.28 | Imperios | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocW3fBqPQkU The Divinarium be like |
15:21.50 | Imperios | >http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Belarus_Triumvirates |
15:21.50 | Monet | If anyone spots the DI on here, let me know. |
15:21.51 | Imperios | FUCKING |
15:21.52 | Imperios | BELARUS |
15:21.59 | Imperios | MAGIC BELARUS |
15:22.02 | Imperios | MAKING MAGIC POTATOES |
15:22.04 | Hachiman | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/conworld/images/b/b9/Innsstadt_flag_NR.png/revision/latest?cb=20150522171837 The Brood of Innsstadt's herald's face is how I feel about all this |
15:22.10 | Imperios | MAGIC KGB |
15:22.34 | Imperios | >Belarussian-ethnic evolved humanoid Ekloivnocs |
15:22.43 | Imperios | I literally imagine hordes of Lukashenko clones |
15:22.45 | Wormy_ | http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:The_Civilization |
15:22.58 | Imperios | You know guys |
15:22.59 | Imperios | I am happy |
15:23.03 | Imperios | I am happy we have each other |
15:23.14 | Imperios | I am happy that whenever one ofu s makes something stupid, someone can criticise it |
15:23.15 | Hachiman | http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Worlds_Imperium_of_Nova_Britannia Looks to be the Imperium, granted most of this is ripped off from Code Geass or something, I dunno |
15:24.05 | Charles_Murray | Animaniax created that wiki, btw |
15:24.05 | Hachiman | Honestly I'm not so disgusted or upset by this or anything considering how much stuff we steal / borrow for our own fiction |
15:24.09 | Imperios | You know if each of us worked on its own |
15:24.17 | Imperios | We'd become this |
15:24.25 | Imperios | Hachiman: Fair point too |
15:24.33 | Imperios | Still hilarious |
15:24.39 | Hachiman | I mean, come on, Monet's Imperium and its Inquisition |
15:24.40 | Imperios | If you ask me, I am proud |
15:24.48 | Imperios | I am proud that someone rips off my stuff |
15:25.29 | Hachiman | It's like Oluap's worst nightmare; everything is humans |
15:25.43 | Charles_Murray | France - :D |
15:26.00 | Monet | I think the DI has become more original over time. The Inquisition? Yeah that's pretty ripped off I will admit lol. |
15:26.36 | Monet | I'd say Nova Britannia is different enough that it's not a DI ripoff. |
15:27.03 | Hachiman | http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Kingdom_of_Albion Oh here we go |
15:27.04 | Charles_Murray | It's a code geass ripoff though |
15:27.59 | Imperios | http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Yamato_Intersolar_Commune Hachiman: FFFFFFFFFFFFFF- |
15:28.16 | Hachiman | Not even mad |
15:29.24 | OluapPlayer | But I have humans of my own tho |
15:29.40 | Hachiman | I could go full circle and start ripping off his stuff |
15:29.45 | Hachiman | *We |
15:30.02 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Are they a dominant culture though. |
15:30.03 | Imperios | http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Equestrian_Republic_(The_Next_Renaissance) dat name |
15:30.12 | Hachiman | Equestrian doesn't just mean horses u |
15:30.35 | Imperios | http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/New_Korean_Republic_(The_Next_Renaissance) Ohgod that picture |
15:30.37 | Monet | It does relate to horses though. |
15:30.44 | Imperios | http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Mongolian_Hegemony_(The_Next_Renaissance) |
15:30.58 | Imperios | http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/Oceanic_Federation_(The_Next_Renaissance) THEM PICTURES |
15:31.15 | Imperios | http://conworld.wikia.com/wiki/East_Asian_Coalition_(The_Next_Renaissance) ...Holy shit that flag is cool |
15:31.31 | Imperios | The Taiwanese sun, the Korean trigrams and the Mongolian Buddhist symbol |
15:31.49 | OluapPlayer | Well no they're a minor race |
15:31.55 | OluapPlayer | because screw major 'umies |
15:32.21 | Imperios | Empire of Man - ;-; |
15:32.22 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Exactly. THis is a universe where humans take centre-stage in a sci-fi setting. |
15:32.28 | OluapPlayer | gross |
15:32.32 | OluapPlayer | where the ayys at |
15:32.53 | Charles_Murray | France - D: |
15:32.57 | Monet | Apparently they're minorities. |
15:33.01 | OluapPlayer | GROSS |
15:33.29 | Imperios | DEATH TO THE HUMAN PRIVILEGE |
15:33.40 | OluapPlayer | 'umies is fer krumpin |
15:33.42 | Hachiman | Fuck the Humanarchy |
15:34.03 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: make Divinarium statement about Loron pls |
15:34.26 | Hachiman | Also what kinda name is Innsstadt |
15:34.46 | Hachiman | Is that like German |
15:34.59 | Monet | Sounds Germanic. |
15:35.16 | OluapPlayer | Innsmouth's gay cousin |
15:35.22 | Hachiman | hur |
15:35.52 | Hachiman | So, Brood of Innsstadt = German Zazane expies |
15:36.08 | Charles_Murray | Wormy_ Also, I read your recent works page |
15:36.13 | Charles_Murray | I really really like it |
15:36.38 | Wormy_ | Thank you, glad you liked it |
15:37.43 | Hachiman | Oh, that reminds me, I need to check out the stuff on the FRD thread |
15:37.57 | Charles_Murray | There are a few things I feel are out of order, but otherwise the narrative is pretty spectacular |
15:38.19 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Institute a number of reeducation facilities in former Loron space and invest in psychological reconditioning of Lorons to make them capable of living in galactic society. In order for the project to be self-sufficient, institute reparations in form of salvaged resources (coming from ships and vehicles) and metals, precious and otherwise (all that bling has to come from somewhere), using Chikz as liasons. The Chik-ruled government shall ens |
15:38.19 | Wormy_ | Charles: I was a bit concerned there might be a lot of things wrong with it, being planned out nearly a year ago now |
15:38.19 | Imperios | ure the payment of reparations and the reconditioning project, although PCA forces shall remain in Rogue Boyz space and take responsibility for its military protection. |
15:38.31 | OluapPlayer | Who says this |
15:38.35 | Hachiman | CONVERT TO SPODE |
15:38.38 | Hachiman | KILL THE HERETICS |
15:38.40 | Hachiman | REMOVE PIZZA |
15:39.02 | OluapPlayer | Koluap - >convert to spode dont make me come down from heaven to shoot you |
15:39.20 | Hachiman | >antitheist >heaven |
15:39.23 | Hachiman | u fukn wot koluap |
15:39.39 | OluapPlayer | Koluap - hey sonhadromerith is cool enough |
15:40.02 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Autarch Supreme Tansimat Qariel, speaking for Clericarch Iovera |
15:40.08 | OluapPlayer | rite |
15:40.11 | OluapPlayer | Thank you |
15:40.14 | Monet | I was going ot say with his guilt Koluap might go to hell but he probably earned a place in the dream realm. |
15:40.23 | Hachiman | Autarch Supreme sounds like a type of pizza |
15:40.29 | OluapPlayer | olol |
15:41.15 | Imperios | Monet: What if he did go to Hell, but remained armed and will be fighting demons for all eternity |
15:41.17 | Charles_Murray | Wormy_ Only things I could see is (1) France actually returns to the Xonexi chain of command far before the mess in the core and participates in the stalemate. The arrival of the French Navy gradually building up forces in the Milky Way, plus its efforts to keep the Sovereignty in the war and integrate it more tightly into the Xonexi chain of command, are one reason the stalemate breaks down in favor of the allies |
15:41.40 | OluapPlayer | So Koluap becomes Doomguy |
15:41.43 | OluapPlayer | He'd probably be okay with it |
15:41.46 | Hachiman | He died with his shotgun in hand, so his soul will go to hell with a spiritual one |
15:41.58 | OluapPlayer | Koluap - metaphorically go fuck yourself |
15:42.11 | Charles_Murray | (2) I wrote it that the Peace of Halcyon was actually negotiated before the Civilisation's betrayal, with the DCP negotiating from a position of strength |
15:42.41 | OluapPlayer | Still need Cyrannian and Dino to give their two cents |
15:42.47 | Charles_Murray | And the Peace in many ways actually causes the Civ/Technoosphere's revolt |
15:42.49 | OluapPlayer | And frenchman too |
15:43.02 | Wormy_ | They shouldn't be too hard for me to fix |
15:43.08 | Hachiman | I can imagine that if Koluap's soul actually is in the Realm of Dreams, he'd go "what the actual fuck" when he sees Hachi is part of his afterlife |
15:43.11 | Charles_Murray | France - Yup! Got a few hundred interns working on it |
15:43.27 | OluapPlayer | Koluap - not this shit again |
15:43.33 | Monet | Dream Hachi - EEP EEP |
15:43.36 | Hachiman | Hachi - EERP |
15:43.38 | Hachiman | EEP* |
15:43.40 | Wormy_ | Anyway thanks for the feedback, I'll work on that later |
15:43.53 | OluapPlayer | Koluap - no i dont want to do erotic role play fuck off |
15:43.57 | Monet | Dream Hachi confirmed to be a pokemon. |
15:44.18 | Imperios | Hachiman: ERP ERP ERP |
15:44.36 | Imperios | Hachi, lord of Goldshire |
15:44.42 | Hachiman | Oh fuck |
15:44.58 | Monet | Pornshire* |
15:45.07 | Hachiman | Does anyone else remember that guy who brought up when he got banned from WoW for stuff involved in Goldshire |
15:45.10 | Charles_Murray | That takes skill |
15:45.20 | Charles_Murray | Yeah, I remember that |
15:45.27 | Monet | I mist have missed that. |
15:45.36 | Charles_Murray | He ran an erp guild |
15:45.40 | OluapPlayer | I don't pay attention to WoW |
15:45.51 | Charles_Murray | Well no this was someone on Sporewiki |
15:45.55 | Imperios | Goldshire is basically a small town in WoW where all the ERP was at |
15:46.01 | Imperios | is at even |
15:46.04 | Charles_Murray | is at* |
15:46.09 | Charles_Murray | I checked, it's still there |
15:46.13 | Monet | Olaup knows Goldshire I'm sure |
15:46.21 | OluapPlayer | I don't |
15:46.24 | Monet | Oh |
15:46.28 | Hachiman | He doesn't play WoW |
15:46.29 | Hachiman | Or ever did |
15:46.46 | Monet | I thought he would have at least heard of it. |
15:46.52 | OluapPlayer | Nope |
15:47.02 | Monet | Then you are blessed. |
15:47.15 | OluapPlayer | Only significant incidents in WoW I know of are Leeroy Jenkins and the Corrupted Blood plague |
15:47.31 | Imperios | Well |
15:47.36 | Imperios | Can't say you've lost that much |
15:47.38 | Monet | Even Kalcedia might avoid Goldshire it's so deplorable. |
15:47.45 | Hachiman | Jenkins got old for me but I always laugh at the Corrupted Blood plague |
15:48.15 | Monet | I'm using Corrupted Blood as a case study in my dissertation. |
15:48.23 | Hachiman | Log on and there are fucking skeletons of dead PCs all over the place |
15:48.28 | OluapPlayer | Also you're fooling yourself if you think there's only one place where people erp in such a large game |
15:48.53 | Monet | Goldshire's the largest den of it by far. |
15:48.56 | Imperios | It's only one place, but Goldshire is the heart |
15:49.34 | Charles_Murray | You walk in there and there's basically naked characters all over the screen |
15:49.41 | Monet | I've had ERPers run in on meetings while I was in the Royal Court in Stormwind. |
15:49.48 | Imperios | Geography-wise, Goldshire is close to the faction capital, but also does not have any real amenities |
15:49.59 | Imperios | So it has no use for non-RPers, but is easy to access |
15:50.06 | Charles_Murray | If it was IRL and characters couldn't just run through each other, the room would be packed wall to wall with naked people squished against each other |
15:50.52 | Monet | I used to play on Argent Dawn and yeah the tavern was constantly packed with creepy perverts. |
15:51.25 | Hachiman | I remember one incident where there was a raid boss who would essentially turn your pets into time bombs and then players would teleport them back to hubs and such |
15:51.32 | Hachiman | And end up killing people out of nowhere |
15:51.38 | Charles_Murray | olol |
15:52.04 | Imperios | Basically like an irl infection |
15:52.23 | Hachiman | More like a terrorist attack |
15:52.25 | Charles_Murray | I remember during Cataclysm, blizzard was flooded with messages urging them to leave Stormwind Park alone and instead obliterate Goldshire |
15:52.30 | Hachiman | I mean time bombs as in actual explosions |
15:52.42 | Charles_Murray | They were denied |
15:52.59 | Hachiman | hur |
15:53.27 | Imperios | Hachiman: Wait , are you referring to the Corrupted Blood incident? |
15:53.29 | Monet | I miss the park. |
15:53.44 | Hachiman | I brought up the Corrupted Blood incident but this is different |
15:54.24 | Monet | There was a RP-run tavern in the park district I used to visit, it was nice until Deathwing sat on it. |
15:55.09 | Hachiman | Does anyone remember those bosses that actually roamed the world and then people would manage to lure them to Stormwind and such |
15:55.20 | Hachiman | And cause untold amounts of destruction |
15:55.37 | Monet | I do. |
15:55.39 | Imperios | Hachiman: Kazzak |
15:55.52 | Imperios | I did not play Alliance until recently so I don't remember it |
15:56.00 | Imperios | I remember Gamon wreaking havoc though |
15:56.33 | Imperios | There was one tauren that rogues had to steal something from for one of their quests |
15:56.38 | Imperios | In Orgrimmar, one of the game's largest cities |
15:56.41 | Monet | "Some people just want to watch the [game]world break." |
15:56.50 | Imperios | And since he could be pickpocketed, he could also be attacked |
15:56.56 | Imperios | So people used to kill him constantly |
15:57.13 | Imperios | Blizzard responded by making him a boss basically |
15:57.25 | Monet | In Siege of Orgrimmar right? |
15:58.53 | Monet | I love Blizz's sense of humour. |
15:59.29 | Imperios | Monet: Nah, a boss in actual game Orgrimmar |
15:59.35 | Imperios | It happened in Cata |
15:59.42 | Imperios | He used to be a 10 level normal mob |
15:59.51 | Imperios | They made him a 85 level elite |
16:00.15 | Imperios | He is in Siege though, but he is an ally that must be saved from one of the bosses |
16:00.31 | Imperios | Siege is a bit depressing if you're Horde in general |
16:00.40 | Imperios | You know Admiral Taylor? |
16:00.47 | Imperios | One of the bosses is his Horde counterpart |
16:00.57 | Imperios | The guy that gave you quests |
16:02.18 | Monet | Right |
16:02.44 | Charles_Murray | If I went back to WoW, I would probably go Horde |
16:02.51 | Charles_Murray | since I spent so much time on Alliance |
16:04.16 | Hachiman | Oh God |
16:04.23 | Hachiman | I just remembered the 'funeral raid' incident |
16:06.56 | Hachiman | A player had a stroke while she was playing her mage character in WoW and her guild members decided that they'd hold a memorial service for her on the server she frequented - which was then interrupted by another guild that turned the service into a battlefield |
16:07.25 | Hachiman | And began things by assassinating the dead girl's character which her guild mates had managed to log into for the service |
16:14.21 | Monet | That's rough |
16:15.58 | Monet | Charles_Murray: Alliance were okay. |
16:18.01 | Imperios | Charles_Murray: That was my logic when I went Alliance |
16:18.17 | Tek0516 | If I remember the stories wasn't the funeral stuff being held while completely unequiped in a combat area? |
16:18.21 | Monet | Although there was this perception the Alliance was all little kids. |
16:26.24 | Imperios | Monet: I remember back during Cata there were giant faction fights |
16:26.34 | Imperios | Out of universe at least |
16:36.18 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
16:36.37 | Wormy_ | Maybe we could encourage him to join us |
16:38.56 | Technobliterator | I'm uh |
16:39.01 | Technobliterator | pretty sure that wiki breaks the Terms of Use |
16:40.30 | *** join/#sporewiki Xho (97e0b138@gateway/web/freenode/ip.151.224.177.56) |
16:40.43 | Technobliterator | yeah |
16:40.50 | Technobliterator | That wiki is breaking the terms of use |
16:41.42 | OluapPlayer | spu |
16:41.44 | Wormy_ | How so? |
16:42.30 | Technobliterator | You're not actually allowed to have pages that wide |
16:42.31 | Monet | There are A loooot of images that looked like they were plucked straight from Google Images. |
16:42.42 | Technobliterator | And they use CSS to make it wider |
16:42.52 | Technobliterator | Also, that would also break ToU if they're doing that illegally |
16:43.07 | Xho | skko |
16:43.08 | Technobliterator | I don't intend to report them or anything, becuase that's being a jackass |
16:43.14 | Wormy_ | We did ask wikia to extend the width of some of our namespaces, maybe they are lucky?# |
16:43.28 | OluapPlayer | Xho: Me and Jo need you for Reckoning stuff |
16:43.31 | Technobliterator | But Wikia Staff would probably remove the code that makes their pages wider if they did it |
16:43.47 | Technobliterator | I mean, they'll get away with it as long as Wikia don't find out |
16:43.48 | Technobliterator | :P |
16:43.59 | Technobliterator | and yeah |
16:44.10 | Xho | y |
16:44.19 | OluapPlayer | need dialog for Kicath councillor |
16:44.24 | Xho | ew |
16:44.25 | Xho | alright |
16:45.35 | Wormy_ | Jo: I think it was only user generated content pages that had a slight width extension, since it was all about space for adverts in the first place |
16:45.49 | Technobliterator | yeah |
16:45.57 | Wormy_ | I'm irritated how short my Recent Works page |
16:45.57 | Technobliterator | It's because Creature, Fiction etc are non-content namespaces |
16:46.18 | Technobliterator | So because they aren't supposed to get much traction, they aren't given the extra ad space |
16:46.35 | Technobliterator | Also, their main admin is a Kanye West fan |
16:46.37 | Technobliterator | \o/ |
16:49.35 | Hachiman | Yeezus |
16:51.18 | Wormy_ | fishsticks |
16:54.32 | Xho | recovering |
17:18.18 | *** join/#sporewiki dino82_ (d42988b2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.212.41.136.178) |
17:19.46 | Monet | hello |
17:19.59 | Xho | Hachiman: IDubbbz' I'M GAY thing just cracks me up |
17:20.07 | Hachiman | I'M GAY |
17:20.43 | dino82_ | hi |
17:20.48 | OluapPlayer | Hey dino |
17:20.55 | dino82_ | Hi :D |
17:20.57 | OluapPlayer | Me and Jo need you for fiction |
17:21.20 | dino82_ | Sure! |
17:21.24 | dino82_ | On this channel? |
17:21.27 | OluapPlayer | Yeah |
17:22.04 | OluapPlayer | Basically Da Rogue Boyz are defeated and are put on trial. We'd like to know if a representative of Rambo Nation could make a statement about what they think should be done with them |
17:22.16 | dino82_ | Sure! |
17:22.31 | OluapPlayer | You can just leave it here and we'll add it to the trial |
17:22.32 | dino82_ | I think the Hand of hte Monarch would do that, or the current monarch of that time |
17:22.47 | dino82_ | At thtat time is was still Rambarth |
17:23.02 | OluapPlayer | It can be him sure |
17:24.23 | dino82_ | Rambarth, on the point of Rambo Nation would want justice and would demand a fair and just trail for the Rougue Boyz. They should give up their spoils of war so that the damaged nations could rebuild the damage done by them and pay those victims of the Rogue Boyz. |
17:24.38 | dino82_ | He would like to see them locked up with no chance of early release |
17:25.47 | OluapPlayer | Can you put that in dialog form? |
17:27.06 | Imperios | OluapPlayer Hachiman: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/4/41/Indoctinate_Emblem.png/revision/latest?cb=20160912172646 ...I am not sure if that works |
17:27.23 | OluapPlayer | I like it |
17:27.37 | OluapPlayer | It's got a little atom on it, that's a nice symbol |
17:27.41 | OluapPlayer | Also good colours |
17:28.08 | Imperios | Do you think the crown and axe work? I added them to show that it is still a monarchy and ruled by a pretty ancient dynasty |
17:28.11 | dino82_ | *'''Rambarth''': ''"At behalf of people of Rambo Nation, I am authorized to give the following statements. As a Nation, we demand the Rogue Boyz get a fair and just trail. Should they be found guilgy, in wich I have no doubt we would like to see this Court demand the Loron to give up their spoils of War so that those fallen victim can rebuild the damage done to them. Further more, in case of guilty we would like to see their impr |
17:28.21 | Imperios | Hence the ancient symbols |
17:28.32 | OluapPlayer | They do yeah |
17:28.40 | dino82_ | release. If these demands are honored, the Rambo would not further prosecute or hunt down any Loron as long as they do not harm us again. "'' |
17:28.51 | OluapPlayer | dino82_: It got cut off at "we would like to see" |
17:28.52 | Xho | OluapPlayer: You wouldn't be able to give me the TF2 sound files would ya |
17:29.08 | OluapPlayer | nigga u askin me about several GBs |
17:29.09 | Imperios | should the atom crown be canon for Maryah now? |
17:29.11 | OluapPlayer | Just use your own |
17:29.14 | Xho | new computer |
17:29.18 | Xho | i don't have any |
17:29.24 | OluapPlayer | Download the game then dingus |
17:29.32 | Xho | but wut |
17:29.39 | dino82_ | @oluap: What do you mean cut off? |
17:29.43 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: Can't see why not |
17:29.47 | OluapPlayer | dino82_: Your sentence got cut off |
17:30.05 | Imperios | Also since my emblems become more and more cramped up |
17:30.20 | Imperios | I think I'll take the central elements of their |
17:30.31 | Imperios | *their central elements and make small neat logos out of them |
17:30.35 | dino82_ | yeah I couldn't type anymore, rest is just below with start of: release, if these demands are honored. The Rambo would not further prosecute or hunt down any Loron as they as they do not harm us again."'' |
17:31.02 | Imperios | So that they could be recognisable as small pictures |
17:31.02 | OluapPlayer | "Further more, in case of guilty we would like to see their impr" |
17:31.08 | OluapPlayer | What did you mean to write there? |
17:31.22 | Xho | OluapPlayer: I thought the sound files couldn't be used after that Steampipe fiasco |
17:31.32 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/6a/Indoc_Logo.png/revision/latest?cb=20160912173108 Like this |
17:31.35 | OluapPlayer | You thought wrong |
17:32.04 | Imperios | For bigger pictures, use the greater emblem, for miniportrait-sized stuff, use the logo |
17:32.07 | OluapPlayer | Just download GCFScale and extract the sounds like normal |
17:32.19 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: I see |
17:33.15 | Imperios | Also about the flags |
17:33.37 | Imperios | AFAIU you wanted this flag http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/77/Indoctrinate_State_Flag.png/revision/latest?cb=20160912173318 |
17:33.46 | Imperios | But I personally liked this flag http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/c2/Indoctrinate_National_Flag.png/revision/latest?cb=20160912173317 |
17:33.49 | Imperios | So I thought |
17:34.01 | dino82_ | @oluap: without a change of early release. |
17:34.17 | Imperios | What if the Collective has a state/royal flag and a national flag; one used by government/royal institutions, the other by simple citizens |
17:34.19 | OluapPlayer | Right thanks |
17:34.20 | Imperios | To show patriotism |
17:34.38 | Imperios | A few countries have this |
17:34.45 | OluapPlayer | Can do |
17:35.50 | Imperios | BTW if you did not notice, the state flag has 21 triangles in total |
17:35.57 | Imperios | 18 red triangles and 3 blue triangles in the center |
17:36.04 | Imperios | For 21 Indoc species |
17:36.24 | OluapPlayer | That's a good detail |
17:37.34 | Imperios | Now I wish I became a designer rather than a linguist |
17:37.56 | OluapPlayer | Now I just need Cyrannian's statement and we can publish the trial |
17:39.11 | Monet | Imperios: You could keep "designer" as a side interest. |
17:39.29 | Monet | Or you could take it up as a secondary profession. |
17:41.15 | dino82_ | @oluap: Great! |
17:43.39 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Indoctrinate_Collective looks prettier now |
17:49.40 | Monet | They just released system specs for Mafia III - it's a 50GB game |
17:50.02 | OluapPlayer | fat game |
17:51.36 | Imperios | Yiy |
17:52.18 | Monet | Half the map will be taken up by an expansive Bayou. |
17:53.23 | Monet | It's...kind of hilarious that you can theoretically go into the bayou, call for gang support, have them follow you into the water then watch them get munched by gators. |
17:54.31 | Imperios | I've been thinking |
17:54.52 | Imperios | The Indocs should probably become PCA councillors at some poiint |
17:55.29 | OluapPlayer | They can't, PCA is for Borealis natives only |
17:55.48 | Monet | But Kicath. |
17:55.55 | Monet | How they get in? |
17:56.02 | OluapPlayer | Remnant is a Borealis-native government |
17:56.34 | Monet | So they're in by technically being an organisation native to Borealis. |
17:56.40 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
18:07.09 | Imperios | But Indocs moved into Borealis now |
18:07.41 | OluapPlayer | So did the Junction |
18:07.47 | OluapPlayer | Yet they're not native to Borealis |
18:07.58 | Imperios | Ah |
18:10.14 | Monet | Loopholes. |
18:12.42 | OluapPlayer | I don't intend to add anymore councillors either. I think 7 is a large enough number to stop at |
18:15.08 | Imperios | rite |
18:31.33 | Imperios | Wormy_: We had to translate news about North Korea on our English lesson today |
18:31.48 | Imperios | I'll find tha article now |
18:32.11 | Imperios | Wormy_: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/11/north-korea-demands-recognition-as-legitimate-nuclear-state-pyongyang That one |
18:32.33 | Imperios | I had to help with East Asian names and their pronounciation |
18:32.49 | Imperios | >âObama is trying hard to deny the DPRKâs [North Koreaâs] strategic position as a legitimate nuclear weapons state but it is as foolish an act as trying to eclipse the sun with a palm,â |
18:32.53 | Imperios | That one was best |
18:32.55 | Wormy_ | Interesting |
18:33.02 | Imperios | It was hilarious |
18:33.15 | Imperios | We had to recite all these DPRK claims in front of the whole group |
18:33.21 | Wormy_ | lol |
18:33.23 | Imperios | "The group of Obamaâs running around and talking about meaningless sanctions until today is highly laughable, when their âstrategic patienceâ policy is completely worn out and they are close to packing up to move out" |
18:33.28 | Imperios | ^ that, but IN RUSSIAN |
18:33.53 | Hachiman | cyka blyat |
18:34.46 | Wormy_ | NK statements and propaganda are bizzare. I found a video of Kim I'l Sung visiting families in a new flat. He gifts them a single matchbox, then one of the daughters starts crying in what appeared to be admiration. Though many joked it was something-else in the comment section |
18:34.57 | Wormy_ | *I'll |
18:37.07 | dino82_ | test |
18:51.41 | Imperios | Hachiman OluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRv-7vru4tk I fucking love the start of this video |
18:52.16 | OluapPlayer | Don't get it |
18:53.55 | Monet | The face was Chris Metzen. |
19:00.24 | Monet | http://aggronaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Anduin2.jpg so this is Anduin now. |
19:01.23 | Monet | Apart from inheriting his dad's taste in haircuts. Bloody hell did he become a man. |
19:03.10 | Imperios | I really do not want him to become a warmonger though |
19:03.25 | Imperios | Blizz should not bend over to fans and warp lore for no reasom |
19:03.39 | Imperios | Let him be more strong-willed but still pacifist |
19:05.07 | Monet | He might prioritise any aggression on the legion. |
19:07.20 | Monet | Remember Impy he was named after Anduin Lothar. THe lion of Stormwind, its greatest general and champion. |
19:09.44 | Monet | Wait Anduin can't become like his father - he's studying the path of the Holy Light. |
19:12.03 | Imperios | Monet: Haven't read books about WC1, the only Anduin Lothar I know is Travis Fimmel hur |
19:12.03 | Ghel | I see from the logs that there was a discussion about Chaos Energy a couple of days ago when I inconveniently wasn't here to take part. |
19:14.16 | Monet | Imperios: There's a statue to Lothar in the Blasted Lands where he is pointing his sword heroically to Blackrock mountain. |
19:14.22 | dino82_ | legion is great, nice story and cinematics |
19:14.57 | Imperios | True but I do not want him to become a fierce general who fights up front and person |
19:15.00 | Imperios | personal |
19:15.03 | Imperios | *frontline general |
19:15.26 | Monet | I'm not sure he will |
19:15.33 | Imperios | Even if he wil leventually turn out to lead the Alliance, he shouldn't be walking around with a sword and all that |
19:15.39 | Imperios | Yeah I hope so as well |
19:15.42 | Imperios | Another thing |
19:15.47 | Imperios | Sylvanas as Warchief |
19:15.57 | Imperios | I REALLY hope it will last one expansion at best |
19:16.38 | Imperios | Sylvanas has hordes of fanboys because of her tits and Vol'jin does not, but that does not mean she must be the supreme leader of the Horde |
19:17.01 | Imperios | I personally would like to see Vol'jin become more important and fleshed out throughout the expansion |
19:17.20 | Monet | Vol'jin doesn't look too good in the cinematics |
19:23.21 | Imperios | Exactly, they just wasted him instead of caring to develop him |
19:23.23 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Well managed to re-attain all the files, Scout has a total of 738 sounds now |
19:23.42 | Imperios | Instead they put a well-know fanservice extra with, pardon the pun, a horde of fanboys |
19:23.47 | OluapPlayer | You extracted every sound from the files? |
19:23.48 | Imperios | Even thoughe she does not fit with the Horde's ideals |
19:23.53 | Xho | yup |
19:24.05 | OluapPlayer | I only extract sounds when I need them for videos |
19:24.15 | Xho | o rly |
19:24.27 | Xho | I extract them all and then store them in class-named folders |
19:26.50 | dino82_ | Sylvanas rocks as Horde Leader, they need a fine and firm woman hand to lead them after the disasters that went before them. As for Anduin, I actually hope to see more of the other leaders of the Alliance (like not in Legion, I alwasy felt Varian was quite on the front row, even though eh is a great characters) |
19:26.59 | dino82_ | Now more Valeera Sanguinar and Broll Bearmantle! |
19:27.24 | Xho | OluapPlayer: 7,887 files in total |
19:27.51 | dino82_ | The leader of the Bloodelves is a interessting character as well |
19:27.56 | dino82_ | as well as the new nightborne |
19:28.12 | Monet | Lor'themar Theron? |
19:28.18 | Monet | (was that him?) |
19:29.01 | Wormy_ | Imperios: Klingons vs Nazis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMWcFuCOoOM |
19:29.02 | Imperios | dino82_: Problem is... well... |
19:29.04 | Imperios | She's Forsaken |
19:29.10 | Imperios | You can't put a Forsaken in charge of the Horde |
19:29.12 | Wormy_ | brb dinner |
19:29.13 | Imperios | Forsaken aren't even Horde |
19:29.13 | dino82_ | I think it was him yeah |
19:29.16 | Imperios | They're like Horde allies |
19:29.19 | dino82_ | @Omerios: Why not! They are ruthless! |
19:29.28 | dino82_ | The undead will rule! |
19:29.31 | Imperios | Ruthless but in a different way to the original WC3 horde |
19:29.53 | Imperios | A sly schemer fits the Alliance more |
19:31.22 | dino82_ | Haha perhaps, or what of Sylvanas as Alliance leader? |
19:34.12 | Imperios | My point is, Sylvanas's character can be summed up, more or less, as "sly" |
19:34.39 | Imperios | A sly manipulator (Gul'dan) is exactly what the Horde tried to distance itself from |
19:38.56 | dino82_ | True, she is very very cunning :D |
19:39.07 | dino82_ | and anything beyond trustworthy |
19:39.37 | DrodoEmpire | test |
19:39.44 | OluapPlayer | garithos was right all along |
19:41.33 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: I forgot to ask. Does the text in the Indoc emblem mean anything? |
19:42.06 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: It's coded "Sapere aude vincere" |
19:42.13 | Imperios | "Dare to know, and conquer" |
19:42.13 | OluapPlayer | wat dat |
19:42.16 | OluapPlayer | Ah |
19:42.20 | OluapPlayer | That's fitting |
19:42.22 | Imperios | Or succeed or something |
19:42.39 | OluapPlayer | Alternatively it actually says "Bill Nye the Science Guy" |
19:43.50 | Xho | space |
19:44.20 | Hachiman | needs more astrophysics black guy |
19:44.37 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/C4cIv.jpg I'm sure we can make this fit the wiki somehow |
19:46.16 | Hachiman | olol |
19:46.38 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: I kind of hope/expect that Blizzard bring Garithos back as a Forsaken general |
19:46.58 | OluapPlayer | garithos did nothing wrong |
19:48.51 | Imperios | Kills everyone all while lamenting the fact that he is no longer human |
19:49.13 | Imperios | Now I want to make a Garithos expy for the Fantasyverse |
19:49.22 | Imperios | Oh wait I already have made an entire empire of Garithoses |
19:49.30 | OluapPlayer | The entire Empire of Man is already Garithos |
19:49.33 | OluapPlayer | dam ninjad |
19:49.34 | Imperios | Garithoi |
19:57.13 | Hachiman | Garithoi Themek |
19:57.26 | OluapPlayer | gross |
20:00.27 | Imperios | Hachiman: Racism energy |
20:00.46 | Hachiman | THE POWER OF HUMAN SUPREMACY |
20:20.18 | dino82_ | have to go |
20:20.19 | dino82_ | bye bye |
20:30.52 | *** join/#sporewiki Wormy__ (5f937199@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.147.113.153) |
20:31.00 | Wormy__ | That was definitely an ape. |
20:31.16 | Wormy__ | Don't call a monkey an ape and expect it to be kind. |
20:31.28 | Wormy__ | (other way around) |
20:32.30 | OluapPlayer | wat u on about |
20:32.42 | OluapPlayer | Oh the monkey with a gun |
20:32.56 | Wormy__ | Aye |
20:33.41 | Wormy__ | Bad joke is bad |
20:33.56 | Wormy__ | Moving on, I think fiction reading day was a success. |
20:34.31 | Wormy__ | Surprised more stuff wasn't added though |
20:35.16 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
20:35.23 | DrodoEmpire | Still a new thing but I liked it |
20:35.46 | OluapPlayer | I had nothing to add |
20:37.51 | Monet | Does it have to be new stuff though? |
20:37.58 | Wormy__ | Not all |
20:38.06 | Wormy__ | *not at all |
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20:39.22 | Wormy__ | In Better Times (2012) and Halcyon Preview (over a year old) |
20:39.26 | Wormy__ | hi |
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20:41.14 | The_Randomness | Hello |
20:42.46 | Hachiman | Hi |
20:42.54 | Hachiman | Imperios Xho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Doctrina_Venefica#22.2F11.2F34:_Being_Normal_For_Once A more casual section |
20:44.54 | Hachiman | Also Imp your stuff gets mentioned again |
20:45.06 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/147/072/d35.jpeg sweet jesus just look at the time |
20:46.02 | Tek0516 | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1473690763-20160912.png |
20:47.06 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: But how can it deus vult if it operates using filthy computer AL-GORITHMS |
20:47.23 | Imperios | >Teael - He brought up the whole... human... thing. And I got pissed off. |
20:47.26 | OluapPlayer | hur |
20:47.27 | Imperios | #HumanLivesMatter |
20:53.09 | Monet | Imperios: I read that as Al Gore-ithms. |
20:53.46 | Monet | A clock that warns of the dangers of climate change. |
20:55.04 | OluapPlayer | TIME TO WORK, SMELL THE FOSSIL FUELS YOU'VE BEEN BURNING YOU DIRTY ASSHOLE |
20:55.33 | Monet | Al Goreclock got on the wrong side of bed. |
20:59.31 | Xho | "Heilen - Sure. Next you'll say you also killed the Adversary." Caligaduro - just u wait u lil shit |
21:01.37 | Xho | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/89/SpaceEye.png/revision/latest?cb=20160912210104 Got bored and made a space eye |
21:01.56 | OluapPlayer | poke |
21:02.51 | Monet | I see a shadowy being just underneath the centre. |
21:05.56 | Wormy__ | Xho: Makes me think of https://youtu.be/NFTaiWInZ44?t=2m18s |
21:06.13 | Xho | oh god |
21:06.32 | Xho | Santorakh - bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaah bwwwaaaahhh |
21:07.47 | Wormy__ | Is that how universes are born? |
21:08.09 | Xho | Maybe |
21:11.09 | *** join/#sporewiki Tybusen (44053b94@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.5.59.148) |
21:23.39 | Tybusen | Wormy__: Are you thinking of getting the Station Halcyon revival going again? |
21:24.57 | Wormy__ | Well that may be possible for me yet, but I have been making some improvements. |
21:25.03 | Wormy__ | *that may not |
21:25.30 | Imperios | Hi Tybu |
21:25.37 | Wormy__ | I do plan on focusing with Halcyon as soon asa I'm ready |
21:26.43 | Wormy__ | Also thinking it could be featured in a new galaxy every series |
21:27.26 | Tybusen | Hm, interesting |
21:27.59 | Tybusen | The moving it to a new galaxy would be interesting from both an in-universe and a storytelling perspective |
21:28.06 | Xho | ngh halcyon |
21:28.22 | Tybusen | Obviously changing the backdrop allows it to explore different themes for each "season" |
21:28.24 | Wormy__ | Indeed, and it gives it more opportunity for collaboration |
21:28.39 | Wormy__ | Not everyone has equal access to each galaxy |
21:28.54 | Tybusen | And in-universe it reflects Halcyon's origins as a big international project shared by the SSA |
21:29.03 | Wormy__ | Indeed |
21:29.51 | Wormy__ | Series 2 will focus on the years between the annihilation and now, perhaps only focusing on important elements, like a series of specials. Series 3 can pick off a new, possibly in a new galaxy |
21:30.06 | Tybusen | S1 was in Galaxon and S2 looks like it'll be in Cyrannus, so where S3 ends up will be interesting |
21:30.14 | Monet | I still have m reservations about moving Halcyon to Cyrannus. |
21:30.36 | Xho | I have reservations on Halcyon in general |
21:30.36 | Wormy__ | Hence, the possibility of it moving about the universe. |
21:30.50 | Wormy__ | How come? |
21:31.00 | Xho | It keeps dying and keeps on reviving and I'm surprised it hasn't shattered under that predicate yet |
21:31.27 | Wormy__ | Only because I've abandoned it, but it has played some important roles alreay. |
21:31.49 | Tybusen | Maybe we could make the GXS era a separate season and move Halcyon to the Milky Way during that season? We were talking before how it would be interesting to see GXS from the perspective of the Halcyon crew |
21:31.55 | Wormy__ | However if I move my focus to using Halcyon like a conduit (like I've done with Recent works), it could be revived |
21:32.50 | Wormy__ | Not really possible now, since the ending of GXS made Cyrannus a safe place for the Treaty of Halyon |
21:33.06 | Wormy__ | But it can still serve that role |
21:33.09 | Tybusen | I think Halcyon's repeated deaths mainly come from the fact that a lot of the original contributors are no longer on the Wiki |
21:33.17 | Wormy__ | Indeed |
21:33.20 | Monet | I'm not keen on Halcyon's current location because I'd hardly consider just outside of CyraEmp space 'neutral territory' |
21:33.37 | Tybusen | Right, I guess it would make more sense to keep Halcyon out of the GXS bloodbath zone |
21:34.05 | Wormy__ | It isn't, hence series 2 Halcyon will have to survive the Dark Times and masnipulation from the Empire all on its own. An interesting narrative, no? |
21:34.07 | Monet | Wormhole travel is also tightly controlled in Cyrannus. |
21:34.30 | Tybusen | I think the shadow of the Empire looming over Halcyon would be interesting from a narrative perspective |
21:34.57 | Tybusen | And maybe the reason that Halcyon gets moved from Cyrannus later on is because of the Cold War? |
21:35.18 | Monet | The shadow of the Empire could be a good reason the station moves again. |
21:35.27 | Tybusen | As in, Halcyon becomes at-risk of becoming a battleground between Imperial and Republic influences |
21:36.35 | Monet | Even before the cold war starts you have multiple leadership personalities outside Cyrannia who feel the Empire is too close to the station for comfort. |
21:37.45 | Xho | OluapPlayer: "Sims is great, became Vice President by making 10 friends and reading 1 book then died by lighting a firework in the house. Top game." |
21:37.59 | OluapPlayer | Accurate |
21:38.06 | Wormy__ | The purpose of Halcyon would be to try and keep the peace between the Republic and Empire, but if it is in dangerous of becoming a flashpoint, it is better off moving. |
21:38.57 | Wormy__ | All of this might explain why S2 Halcyon has to survive on its own |
21:39.13 | Tybusen | I think the Empire's monopoly on influence in Cyrannus during the Dark Times would also contribute to Halcyon not being able to move during that time |
21:39.23 | Wormy__ | But maybe with S3 Halcyon, it moves and picks up more international interest |
21:40.00 | Tybusen | S3 Halcyon would definitely pick up a lot of international interest, with the Cold War heating up and the Xonexi Golden Age starting up |
21:40.10 | Xho | So it's gotten to the point in time where I'm scrolling back the year tab |
21:40.12 | Xho | it begins |
21:40.47 | Monet | Thinking about it, while Halcyon is in Cyrannus is also when GITO emerges as a key trading organisation. |
21:41.15 | Tybusen | S2 Halcyon is probably stuck in Cyrannus because the Empire is unchallenged there and no one wants to risk angering the Empire by moving to relocate the station |
21:41.51 | Tybusen | Emergence of the Republic and Xonexi blocs who are willing to stand up to the Empire could give Halcyon an opportunity to relocate somewhere new |
21:42.11 | Monet | Yeah. |
21:42.45 | Wormy__ | Speaking of which, I ponder if the DCP can now begin to side its loyalty with the New Republic what with the death of the Undying Council. |
21:42.48 | Monet | For now I think Araveene is becoming something of a replacement melting pot due to GITO. |
21:45.11 | Tybusen | I'm not sure whether Captain Valerie is a Republic or Imperial sympathizer but the two other major characters who are still there for S2 will probably belong to anti-Imperial factions by S3 if the DCP becomes pro-Republic |
21:45.44 | Monet | So in retrospect the interim central mixing point of the gigaquadrant isn't in any better a position. So I'm happy the political consequences of sitting right outside the evil empire that is the CyraEMp. |
21:45.58 | Monet | are considered. |
21:47.05 | Tybusen | Considering Halcyon's status in-universe as a symbol of international accord, its state during S2 certainly reflects a lot of the contemporary events of the era |
21:47.39 | Tybusen | Actually now that I think of it, Annihilation to GXS conclusion is a really damn long time |
21:47.52 | Xho | >international accord |
21:48.04 | Xho | I have a feeling the Gigaquadrant's gonna blow again soon |
21:48.29 | Tybusen | I think Annihilation predates Monet's presence on the Wiki |
21:48.36 | Tybusen | To put things in perspective |
21:48.39 | Monet | Only just. |
21:48.47 | Wormy__ | Its about 20-30 years |
21:49.11 | Monet | I appeared in September 2011. |
21:49.28 | Monet | so I must have come what, one, two months after the Annihilation? |
21:49.33 | Tybusen | Out-of-universe that's almost 5 years worth of fiction events to cover |
21:49.36 | Xho | I think so |
21:49.40 | Wormy__ | 2782 (annihilation) 2785 (Halcyon discovered) Xonexi Golden Age (2806) |
21:49.50 | Tybusen | 5 years of fiction |
21:50.02 | Tybusen | That's more than half of the Fiction Universe's lifetime |
21:50.33 | Tybusen | It will be a big undertaking |
21:50.42 | Wormy__ | I could introduce Halcyon to the universe even later, since it fell out of a TARDIS-like rift created by the Va'Navitum |
21:51.00 | Wormy__ | To say, just before the Empire formed |
21:51.41 | Wormy__ | Or is that too easy |
21:51.49 | Tybusen | It might be interesting for Halcyon to reappear just after the Empire's formation, because Halcyon disappeared during the height of the GCW and they wouldn't know about how the War ended |
21:52.00 | Wormy__ | True |
21:52.04 | Monet | But yeah throughout S2 Andromeda transforms from Vartekian central into one of the most politically dominant galaxies in the modern gig. |
21:52.36 | Wormy__ | What happened to Vartekian power in Andromeda? |
21:52.54 | Xho | Assimilated into the Empire |
21:52.57 | Xho | I think |
21:53.02 | Wormy__ | Makes sense |
21:53.17 | Tybusen | It might be better to have Halcyon be reintroduced after the Empire has pissed off some people in the gig because then the Station crew has to figure out how the Republic/Confederacy turned into this massive militaristic Empire |
21:53.23 | Monet | From what I can tell, the Confederation of Andromeda went the way of the stagnency-era USSR. |
21:54.01 | Tybusen | Yeah, Vartekians joined the Confederacy and then the Empire, but lost a lot of their projection power in Andromeda |
21:55.08 | Wormy__ | According to Banelord's timeline, the formation of the Empire was in 2790, so that subtracts 8 years at least |
21:55.16 | Tybusen | Halcyon S2 starting between the formation of the Empire and the rise of the New Republic would be the most interesting because they're dealing with the darkest parts of the Dark Times without having any of the leading context |
21:55.57 | Tybusen | Putting a longer gap between the Annihilation and Halcyon's reappearance would also introduce intrigue from outside observers who thought Halcyon was destroyed a long time ago |
21:56.14 | Wormy__ | Ooh, yeah |
21:56.16 | Monet | I suppose it could be interesting for the Halycon residents to hear the Draconis - the reclusive lizards who preferred being observers of the SSA - not basically dominate Andromeda with the Radeons. |
21:56.18 | Xho | Needs more Xhodocto |
21:56.27 | Xho | Everything needs more Xhodocto because |
21:56.28 | Xho | well |
21:56.33 | Monet | now basically* |
21:57.15 | Tybusen | Xho: Santorakh joins the crew as head medical officer |
21:57.25 | Monet | Andromeda's going to feel completely different to Halcyon's citizens. |
21:58.19 | Monet | Actually wait yeah: Not only are the reclusive lizards and the holyrats Andromeda's leaders, both species are practically everywhere. |
21:58.21 | Xho | Santorakh - scalpel check heart-to-cheese transplant is underway |
21:58.23 | Tybusen | I don't remember if Hachi or Impy had crew members on Halcyon S1 but it would be interesting to see the reactions of Halcyon Zazane or Radeon to the formation of the AGC |
21:59.16 | Wormy__ | I think we should do a vote on what galaxy Halcyon appears in next. Andromeda's an obvious choice, but what about Tuuros, which could have the fiction universe enter a Renaissance of new fictions. |
21:59.46 | Xho | Fourth Era -> Gigaquadrant goes to shit because they knocked on the wrong door |
21:59.52 | Tybusen | Tuuros would be interesting from a narrative standpoint but in-universe I can't see the justification for putting Halcyon in a dangerous frontier galaxy |
22:00.02 | Wormy__ | Same |
22:00.25 | Tybusen | Though from a narrative aspect it could really give Halcyon a big DS9 feel |
22:01.16 | Tybusen | Being uncomfortably close to hostile foreign powers |
22:01.17 | Wormy__ | I think S3 Halcyon should continue the role of hyperspatial discovery as well. I have some ideas about reviving Hachi's proposal of finding something alien in hyperspace, with great consequences |
22:01.26 | Wormy__ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Recent_works#---_Future.3B_uncertain_--- |
22:01.31 | Xho | Santorakh's cheese factory |
22:02.12 | Xho | OluapPlayer: "He was even more confused to find JonTron's butt in his face" |
22:02.19 | Wormy__ | squeeky |
22:02.23 | Tybusen | I'd honestly be fine with a Santorakh cheese factory encounter as a non sequitir comic relief chapter |
22:02.53 | OluapPlayer | Are you gonna comment everything I do on twitter |
22:03.00 | Xho | yes |
22:03.03 | OluapPlayer | doi |
22:03.28 | Xho | I only have 14 followers and 13 of them shitpost |
22:03.32 | Tybusen | An alternate Halcyon appears that's Santorakh's cheese factory, rounds up 10% of Halcyon's population and turns them into cheese, disappears and never comes back |
22:03.37 | Xho | I mean I only follow 14 |
22:04.27 | Xho | I don't think a Xhodocto story like that would work |
22:04.40 | Xho | Actually Xhodocto in fiction now sort of doesn't work |
22:05.17 | Xho | Unless they come across some hyperspatial demonic aberration then it would work sort of |
22:05.52 | Xho | OluapPlayer: So where's the job interview at |
22:06.11 | OluapPlayer | A computer techy place |
22:06.22 | Xho | dem hardwares |
22:06.37 | Xho | Eh well you got experience so that counts |
22:07.28 | Monet | Xho: How many are you following |
22:07.34 | Xho | 14 |
22:07.39 | Xho | I got 6 followers |
22:07.41 | Wormy__ | Its quite possible they do. Maybe Chaos monsters or something |
22:07.46 | Ghelaway | Surely Santorakh's cheese factory would be a hyperspatial demonic aberration, especially if it's used in the context of finding something alien in hyperspace. |
22:08.10 | Xho | Santorakh - hyperspace cheese it's actually a buzzword for a dimensional superweapon |
22:08.47 | Monet | Xho: I'm tracking...528. It's as mad as it sounds. |
22:09.05 | Tybusen | Hyperspace fog is actually just whey leftover from Santo's cheese production facilities |
22:09.27 | Wormy__ | Or bits of dried cheese powder you get in an old packet |
22:09.39 | Wormy__ | I'm told that's caused by tiny mites living in it |
22:09.49 | Tybusen | Hyperspace fog confirmed for Cheetos dust |
22:09.52 | Ghelaway | Tybusen: There are actually multiple levels on which that would make perfect sense. |
22:10.04 | Monet | Though I'm following people, journalists, game developers, studios, media groups, film studios etc. |
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22:10.17 | Wormy__ | Cheese mites in this context could be chaos monsters |
22:10.18 | Ghelaway | This being the Xhodocto, that means we probably can't use it. |
22:10.28 | Cyrannian | Hai |
22:10.31 | Tybusen | Hello |
22:10.32 | Ghelaway | Hello. |
22:10.44 | Tybusen | We were just talking about cheese manufacturing in the context of hyperspace travel |
22:10.59 | Wormy__ | Monet: I use twitter to ask physicists and AI researchers annoying questions |
22:11.05 | Xho | I'd actually do something with Draguros because Draguros is massively underused |
22:11.42 | Xho | Even though in the updated canon he's in equal status to the rest of them |
22:11.47 | Monet | Arsac - What was the last thing you did beside playing hackey-sack with an eye? |
22:11.53 | Cyrannian | That seems like a pretty typical conversation for sporewik |
22:12.02 | Technobliterator | Oh, hey Cyrannian |
22:12.04 | Technobliterator | I had a quick question |
22:12.19 | Xho | Draguros - caused your existence to continue |
22:12.20 | Tybusen | Though actually we're talking about a potential Halcyon revival |
22:12.29 | Cyrannian | rite, ask away |
22:12.32 | Monet | Arsac - ...fair point. |
22:12.37 | OluapPlayer | ~eat Cyrannian |
22:12.39 | infobot | ACTION eats Cyrannian and falls over dead |
22:12.42 | Cyrannian | So I see, Wormy's been a busy bee |
22:12.43 | Technobliterator | So, in the conclusion of Da Reckoning, the Loron are put on trial, can you submit a statement from the Republic as to what they think should happen to them? |
22:12.46 | Cyrannian | ~tickle OluapPlayer |
22:12.46 | infobot | ACTION jumps on OluapPlayer, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
22:12.48 | Wormy__ | I'm too jelly to update Emperor, woops Pope Wormulus's pages, which have barely bee touched since 2010. Imagine all the links I'd have to fix renaming him too |
22:12.49 | Ghel | Which reminds me, we still haven't finished The Halcyon Scheme. |
22:13.12 | Tybusen | Wormy__: papa wormuloso |
22:13.26 | Wormy__ | hur |
22:13.40 | Cyrannian | Technobliterator: Sure, I'll think of something. As for the end of the Republic campaign, I'm free to work on it now if you are |
22:13.46 | Wormy__ | Full title "The Venerable and Amaranthine Wormulus II the exalted Idol and Father of and for the Delpha Coalition of Planets" |
22:14.11 | Xho | Condensed down to 'emperor guy' |
22:14.29 | Technobliterator | I'm busy tonight, but the rest of this week I'm mostly free |
22:14.46 | Cyrannian | Wormy__: Whatever happened to Bo Ramik, he was my favourite DCP warlord |
22:15.04 | Xho | Draguros' page needs some working over |
22:15.11 | Xho | In fact all of the Xhodocto pages need working over |
22:15.17 | Wormy__ | He left the Delpha Coalition of Planets many years ago, he could see the oncoming storm. |
22:15.30 | Monet | Xho: Git ta werk. |
22:15.33 | Wormy__ | But he might return with Lunarai changing things |
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22:16.20 | Ghel | Hello. |
22:16.20 | Xho | Need a quote for Draguros then |
22:16.24 | Cyrannian | Hai Liquid |
22:17.21 | Wormy__ | I thought about Bo Ramik coming back either in Entropic Dalek or Voidwalker |
22:17.34 | Wormy__ | Possibly to fight Tricarrion once and again. |
22:17.48 | Tybusen | Xho: "It's not like I'm not destroying the universe right now because I like you, idiot" ~Draguros |
22:17.54 | Wormy__ | Who reeturne in Mass Armageddon briefly |
22:18.00 | Xho | kek |
22:18.43 | Wormy__ | If he comes back in Entropic Dalek he ought to appear like the Doctor |
22:18.52 | Wormy__ | out of nowhere |
22:19.10 | Xho | Hachiman: Make Draguros quote now |
22:20.25 | Liquid_Ink | Hello everybody |
22:20.33 | Wormy__ | Hey |
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22:21.00 | Quark8 | Hello. |
22:21.26 | Ghel | Hello. |
22:21.44 | Wormy__ | hi |
22:21.59 | Hachiman | "Konnichiwa~! Watashi no namae wa Duragurosu-desu~!" |
22:22.20 | Xho | fukn |
22:22.24 | OluapPlayer | Draguros - nani |
22:22.38 | Xho | Santorakh - duragurosu-chan~~~ |
22:23.06 | Hachiman | Santorakh - MASAKA BAKARA |
22:23.22 | Xho | Angazhar - kisama |
22:24.09 | OluapPlayer | Krath - you're waifu a shit |
22:24.35 | Xho | Santorakh - dakimakura for days |
22:24.54 | Tybusen | Krath - this is just a pillow filled with cheese |
22:25.05 | Xho | Santorakh - i know right |
22:26.10 | Tybusen | Santorakh - Chiizu-senpai understands me, unlike the rest of you bakas |
22:44.21 | Xho | No quotes then |
22:47.16 | Hachiman | I'll think of something either soon or tomorrow |
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23:13.10 | DrodoEmpire | Back |
23:21.31 | Tek0516 | Freaking facebook. Trying to use the mobile website for communicating with some classmates and every other click redirects me to download Facebook messenger. >.> |
23:22.11 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpOvGVIDkrM |
23:22.55 | Hachiman | A rather humorous channel with a fair number of videos talking about roadmen and the UK grime scene |
23:23.18 | Technobliterator | oh bo |
23:23.19 | Technobliterator | y |
23:26.52 | Technobliterator | While I believe Sturgeon's law applies to grime music as with anything, I'm not really much of a fan of the genre |
23:27.27 | Wormy__ | I get instantly bored watching videos of people talking while playing games. |
23:27.37 | Technobliterator | Eh |
23:27.44 | Wormy__ | Just me |
23:27.45 | Technobliterator | I think it's a good technique |
23:28.35 | Hachiman | I like it myself |
23:28.36 | DrodoEmpire | You mean commentary channels Wormy? |
23:28.53 | Hachiman | It means I don't have to watch most of the video and can have it play in the background and not miss much |
23:29.00 | DrodoEmpire | True |
23:29.08 | Technobliterator | Yeah |
23:29.19 | Technobliterator | I like some channels that do that |
23:29.26 | Wormy__ | yes |
23:29.35 | Technobliterator | I don't really watch many youtubers these days |
23:31.16 | Hachiman | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbIyAOhNRGs Another one that actually had me in stitches due to how bad the rapper is |
23:31.59 | DrodoEmpire | I like most commentary channels |
23:32.09 | DrodoEmpire | Not exactly high-brow but they aren't dumb either |
23:33.02 | Hachiman | I don't like all commentary channels mind you; Pyrocinical and Memeulous are good in my opinion but Leafy and a couple others are pretty ech |
23:33.13 | DrodoEmpire | I actually don't mind Leafy |
23:33.39 | DrodoEmpire | I like Vexxed too, Sinnoh i think is good |
23:33.44 | DrodoEmpire | Luna's stories are pretty funny |
23:33.46 | Hachiman | Mainly because Leafy's repetitive and overly edgy and is very clearly overly-sensitive about his chin even though he builds his career on bullying people |
23:34.24 | Hachiman | And he also relies on 'anti-insults' and repeating the same shit over and over again |
23:34.47 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I don't watch all that much of his content |
23:35.01 | DrodoEmpire | Usually just the rants |
23:35.10 | DrodoEmpire | They tend to be pretty great |
23:35.16 | Technobliterator | Some commentary channels are pretty neat |
23:35.21 | Technobliterator | Some are just dumb |
23:35.51 | Technobliterator | Generally, most YouTubers who do that kind of content have jumped on the trend of just being anti-tumblerSJWfeminaziwhatever now |
23:36.00 | Hachiman | Yeah |
23:36.10 | Technobliterator | While I agree with a lot of the points they make, it's really boring |
23:36.25 | Technobliterator | Because literally every video does it |
23:36.31 | DrodoEmpire | There're people who do it better yeah |
23:36.59 | Technobliterator | Thunderf00t and sh0eonhead do a pretty good job refuting those types |
23:37.11 | Hachiman | sh0eonhead is <3 |
23:37.13 | Technobliterator | But it's basically every youtuber that does it |
23:37.20 | Hachiman | I'm a bit mixed about Thunderf00t |
23:37.20 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I like that whole community |
23:37.31 | DrodoEmpire | Sargon and the sort (Hachi I know you hate Sargon you can blow me) |
23:37.34 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
23:37.40 | Hachiman | hur |
23:37.50 | Hachiman | Sargon, the King of Meninists |
23:37.51 | Technobliterator | I'm not a Sargon fan |
23:37.58 | Wormy__ | Thunderf00t's destroying my optimism for Elon Musk |
23:38.05 | Technobliterator | But that might be because I disagree with a lot of his points |
23:38.19 | DrodoEmpire | Eh perhaps |
23:38.30 | Technobliterator | I fully admit to being a TYT fan, though I acknowledge that sometimes they just put out stupid content |
23:38.32 | Monet_2 | Wormy__: IN a way that's a good thing. Guy's adopted the California mentality. |
23:38.43 | Hachiman | TYT? |
23:38.43 | DrodoEmpire | I've been completely turned away from TYT ..< |
23:38.47 | DrodoEmpire | The Young Turks |
23:38.49 | Technobliterator | The Young Turks |
23:38.50 | Hachiman | Ah |
23:38.52 | DrodoEmpire | I like Secular Talk though |
23:38.53 | Hachiman | Never watched them so |
23:38.57 | Technobliterator | Independent news channel |
23:39.11 | DrodoEmpire | I *love* Dave Rubin |
23:39.13 | Technobliterator | Basically, they're anti-establishment and pretty left wing, but sometimes they put out dumb videos |
23:39.21 | Technobliterator | Which I imagine is what turned Drodo off |
23:39.27 | Technobliterator | I love Secular Talk, he's fantastic |
23:39.31 | Monet_2 | I think Elon was one of the backers of the Seasteading initiative. |
23:39.43 | DrodoEmpire | Their dumb videos and Cenk's being a bit of a belligerent dipshit yeah |
23:39.53 | Hachiman | I was considering taking up watching Armoured Skeptic considering he's sh0e's boyfriend and work together a lot |
23:39.56 | Technobliterator | I like Cenk most of the time |
23:39.58 | DrodoEmpire | Skeptic' |
23:40.02 | DrodoEmpire | *Skeptic's great |
23:40.06 | Technobliterator | But then there are times when he comes off as a douche |
23:40.12 | Wormy__ | Sargon brings up some good points but I feel he does not handle topics with sensitivity and quite possibly doesn't examine the arguments enough other than ("There may be something wrong, but."). Sorry but these issues need an intelligent discussion. Also, both TF and Sargon attract a very right-wing audience, as seen when TF argued against Brexit and got a total surprise how his videos were panned |
23:40.13 | DrodoEmpire | Fair enough |
23:40.19 | Technobliterator | So while I support the channel, I understand why people like you wouldn't |
23:40.38 | Technobliterator | Because sometimes they just don't do enough research or they just come off as waaaay too biased |
23:40.38 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy__: Ehh I dunno |
23:41.08 | Technobliterator | Thunderf00t doesn't really seem left or right wing, honestly |
23:41.15 | Technobliterator | I don't know why people equate anti-SJW with right wing |
23:41.18 | DrodoEmpire | I think he's pretty rigourous, nuanced |
23:41.30 | DrodoEmpire | Well anti-regressive and the sort's a broad alliance |
23:41.35 | Wormy__ | He called the refugees "those fucking refugees" or something like that in the last video. That isn't nuanced at all. |
23:41.48 | Technobliterator | I mean, anti-authoritarian left wing is basically just common sense at this point |
23:41.50 | DrodoEmpire | Way to take stuff outta context wormy |
23:41.51 | Monet_2 | One possibility the radical left is presumed completely hijacked by social justice and political correctness. |
23:41.56 | DrodoEmpire | Good job 10/10 |
23:42.05 | Wormy__ | That wasn't to insult them, I know. But it simplifies the whole situation by not examining it |
23:42.07 | Hachiman | Now you're not being very nuanced :P |
23:42.12 | Technobliterator | The radical left was insane anyway, Monet :P |
23:42.22 | DrodoEmpire | Consider the tone of voice and whatnot and his actual arguments regarduing that topic |
23:42.24 | DrodoEmpire | He *has* |
23:42.31 | DrodoEmpire | You're just berating him because bad word |
23:43.02 | Wormy__ | I'm berating him because I feel these topics shouldn't be talked about lightly or in a factional way. |
23:43.12 | Monet_2 | It's always the radicals people complain about. |
23:43.20 | DrodoEmpire | heaven forbid someone slip-up once, Wormy |
23:43.23 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
23:43.28 | Hachiman | Usually because there's something to be said about radicals |
23:43.33 | Wormy__ | You know I think people like Sargon actually *are* part of Outrage culture |
23:43.39 | DrodoEmpire | Look at his actual content on the matter instead of a tiny tiny part of a sentence |
23:43.49 | Technobliterator | Well, I mean, radical opinions tend to be receive more attention |
23:43.51 | DrodoEmpire | I disagree |
23:43.52 | Technobliterator | Because they're crazy |
23:44.01 | DrodoEmpire | (@Wormy) |
23:44.09 | Monet_2 | The more moderate left is a bit more balanced. |
23:44.12 | Technobliterator | The only issue is when people equate those radical views with the non radicals |
23:44.19 | Technobliterator | Of course |
23:44.35 | Monet_2 | But the moderate views are also less interesting to discuss. |
23:44.37 | DrodoEmpire | Well I mean yeah, but that doesn't mean the whole group is safe from criticism or their believe |
23:44.39 | DrodoEmpire | *beliefs |
23:44.45 | Technobliterator | I dislike anyone who equates a view point with the most radical version of it |
23:44.58 | Technobliterator | Liberals are communists, conservatives are nazis, libertarians are anarchists |
23:44.59 | Hachiman | Which is why this whole refugee crises and many Western views on modern Islam are such big problems right now |
23:45.00 | Technobliterator | it's so dumb |
23:45.00 | DrodoEmpire | And if the moderates do little or nothing to combat the radical element they're not much better |
23:45.12 | Hachiman | That is, equating radical views and opinions with non-radicals |
23:45.16 | Technobliterator | yeah, they need to call out their own side |
23:45.27 | DrodoEmpire | And if they aren't then that isn't good, and *someone* has to |
23:45.34 | Technobliterator | This is why I like Secular Talk |
23:45.35 | DrodoEmpire | because the radicals are dangerous |
23:45.40 | Technobliterator | He often calls out the radical left |
23:45.43 | DrodoEmpire | He does |
23:46.00 | Hachiman | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/13179229_277201079282525_3685225380761805467_n.png?oh=383df2c4f8d3de00b4405912d415c9f0&oe=584893BD |
23:46.01 | Technobliterator | TYT very occasionally do, but sometimes not enough |
23:46.06 | Wormy__ | I'm not claiming Sargon isn't always nuanced. Sometimes he is, sometimes he isn't, but I take what he says with a pinch of salt because his channel is essentially aimed at SJWs |
23:46.20 | Technobliterator | Probably my biggest issue is when TYT fail to do that |
23:46.25 | Wormy__ | And I watch *alot* of his videos and will continue tp |
23:46.25 | DrodoEmpire | Its aimed at that a little yeah |
23:46.28 | Technobliterator | Or fail to do enough even handed research |
23:46.37 | Technobliterator | Secular Talk rarely has that issue |
23:46.42 | Monet_2 | I've somewhat given up trying to work out where I sit on the left-right wing spectrum. It's grouping people for generalisation for one |
23:46.46 | DrodoEmpire | And that's fine, I can see how sometimes he isn't that nuanced |
23:46.50 | Technobliterator | Of course |
23:46.53 | DrodoEmpire | What I like is that he can change his mind easily though |
23:46.58 | DrodoEmpire | He's far from dogmatic |
23:47.06 | Technobliterator | Monet_2, have you used https://www.politicalcompass.org/ ? |
23:47.21 | DrodoEmpire | (Also he's done videos on the alt-right too :p) |
23:47.23 | Wormy__ | Yes, and sometimes he has said to his viewers that they should criticise everything he says, which I like. |
23:47.30 | DrodoEmpire | For sure |
23:47.32 | Technobliterator | ugh, the alt-right |
23:47.44 | DrodoEmpire | They're basically right-wing SJWs |
23:47.53 | Monet_2 | Technobliterator: No. Though I don't feel the need to know where I sit. |
23:47.54 | Technobliterator | Personally, I don't use the term alt-right, because it legitimises their point of view too much |
23:47.58 | Technobliterator | They're basically neonazis |
23:48.03 | DrodoEmpire | Exact same behavior and tactics |
23:48.09 | Technobliterator | I'd still recommend taking the test out of curiosity |
23:48.09 | DrodoEmpire | Exact opposite political views |
23:48.15 | Technobliterator | Though I understand your point of view |
23:48.20 | Technobliterator | Yep |
23:48.29 | Hachiman | >There is now a worrying fusion of information and entertainment. |
23:48.33 | Hachiman | I don't quite understand |
23:48.40 | Technobliterator | Infotainment? |
23:48.47 | Technobliterator | It's more of an American issue |
23:49.02 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah news less made to inform so much as to entertain and rake in profits |
23:49.10 | Monet_2 | Hachiman: The American election campaign is very aimed at looking entertaining |
23:49.11 | DrodoEmpire | Reporting on what's popular rather than important |
23:49.19 | Technobliterator | Yeah, basically |
23:49.25 | Technobliterator | do they just cover Trump's stupid statements too much |
23:49.34 | Technobliterator | and not cover Sanders' policy positions enough |
23:49.47 | DrodoEmpire | Trump's turned the infotainment thing to his advantage |
23:49.47 | Technobliterator | (not that his policy positions matter at this point, but while he was running they did) |
23:49.49 | Technobliterator | yeah |
23:50.05 | DrodoEmpire | The man's a *genius* as self-promotion, how could they be so stupid if so few people want him in? |
23:50.07 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
23:50.12 | DrodoEmpire | *at self-promotion |
23:50.20 | Monet_2 | Infotainment comes from studios' obsessive need for viewer retention. So documentaries, election debates and so on need to be more sensational, more dramatic. |
23:50.46 | Technobliterator | It happens less in Britain because of the BBC |
23:50.56 | Monet_2 | I like the BBC for that |
23:51.12 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah Canadian news is boring, but relatively sane |
23:51.18 | Technobliterator | Even though the BBC has its issues, it's arguably better than corporate media |
23:51.19 | DrodoEmpire | Which, again, is Canada in a sentence >.< |
23:51.22 | Monet_2 | I don't really want to touch Sky because I think they might be trying to push an infotainment angle. |
23:51.23 | Technobliterator | :P |
23:51.52 | Technobliterator | Also, to those who have used political compass, guess where I scored :o |
23:52.17 | DrodoEmpire | Moderately Libertarian, left? |
23:52.28 | DrodoEmpire | (I'm left libertarian, more libertarian than left) |
23:52.36 | DrodoEmpire | So basically a classical liberal |
23:52.44 | Technobliterator | No, very libertarian (social issues), moderately left |
23:52.49 | Technobliterator | -5, -8 |
23:53.06 | Technobliterator | I'm 2 points off completely libertarian on social issues |
23:53.12 | DrodoEmpire | Canada's so mind-numbingly devoid of interesting history and sparsely-populated with sites of interest considering its size |
23:53.14 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
23:53.16 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh, cool |
23:53.23 | DrodoEmpire | Welcome to the club <.< |
23:53.27 | Technobliterator | \o/ |
23:53.38 | Hachiman | >Taxpayers should not be expected to prop up any theatres or museums that cannot survive on a commercial basis. |
23:53.43 | Hachiman | help me understand pls |
23:53.47 | Technobliterator | So, basically |
23:54.05 | Technobliterator | Should taxpayer money fund theaters or museums, or should they solely fund themselves? |
23:54.20 | DrodoEmpire | I dunno |
23:54.24 | Hachiman | Ooh that's difficult |
23:54.28 | DrodoEmpire | Both are important for preserving culture |
23:54.36 | Technobliterator | As in, if a theatre can't sell enough tickets to fund its maintenance and whatever |
23:54.56 | Technobliterator | should the local government spend taxpayer money on it or let it go bankrupt etc |
23:55.00 | DrodoEmpire | So I say, depending on what it is specifically, yes |
23:55.20 | Monet_2 | Taxes funding Museums I fully get behind. If they go commercial there's a chance that museum content could slide towards content that's more...entertainment-friendly. |
23:55.22 | DrodoEmpire | History museums or theatres that specialise in traditional or historical arts should be funded |
23:55.39 | DrodoEmpire | Otherwise yeah they'll begin to pander and that's no good |
23:55.54 | Hachiman | >Possessing marijuana for personal use should not be a criminal offence. |
23:55.58 | Hachiman | Not sure where I stand on this |
23:56.01 | Monet_2 | Or we get a situation like stadiums where they're funded by some gaint company. |
23:56.01 | DrodoEmpire | Absolutely not |
23:56.13 | DrodoEmpire | You should be able to *grow* that shit and sell it |
23:56.16 | DrodoEmpire | If you want |
23:56.29 | Monet_2 | The Millennium dome in London became the "O2 arena". |
23:56.36 | DrodoEmpire | Or rather, absolutely it shouldn't be criminal |
23:57.13 | Hachiman | >People with serious inheritable disabilities should not be allowed to reproduce. |
23:57.21 | Hachiman | Is it bad I chose Strongly Agree |
23:57.30 | Technobliterator | :V |
23:57.32 | DrodoEmpire | Yes |
23:57.32 | Technobliterator | We won't judge you for it |
23:57.35 | DrodoEmpire | Not kidding |
23:57.36 | DrodoEmpire | Just yes |
23:57.39 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
23:57.56 | Hachiman | It's the main reason *I* am not having kids |
23:58.02 | DrodoEmpire | That's your choice |
23:58.06 | Monet_2 | The biggest obstacle i'm seeing against the legalisation of marijuana is moral grounds. But honestly poisons like tobacco and alcohol are legal so why is pot illegal? |
23:58.12 | DrodoEmpire | And that's probably the responsible thing if you feel that way |
23:58.15 | Technobliterator | I put strongly agre on marijuana use not being a criminal offence |
23:58.28 | DrodoEmpire | But people should be free to, eugenics is nonsense pseudoscience |
23:58.29 | Technobliterator | For me, no one should be jailed for using a harmless drug |
23:58.35 | DrodoEmpire | And that edges on eugenicist territory |
23:58.42 | DrodoEmpire | A crime to me is something with a victim |
23:58.42 | Technobliterator | And making it legal makes it easier for those addicted to get help |
23:58.46 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
23:58.57 | Wormy__ | My views sort of jump between social democracy, libertarianisn and liberalism |
23:59.02 | DrodoEmpire | If something has no victim besides yourself, it isn't a crime |
23:59.03 | Hachiman | Why is it okay that another human being should have to suffer from the life-crippling conditions and disorders of their parents |
23:59.04 | DrodoEmpire | Period |
23:59.06 | Technobliterator | The tax dollars from it can also be used to fund healthcare |
23:59.16 | Technobliterator | I mean, that's fair |
23:59.26 | Technobliterator | I just think they should be allowed to choose that themselves |
23:59.27 | Monet_2 | If you're worried about what conditions your kids may be born with, there's always IVF, if your partner agrees with it. |
23:59.37 | DrodoEmpire | Why is it okay to discriminate and persecute someone based on a characteristic they can't change? |
23:59.43 | DrodoEmpire | How can you guarentee they inherit it? |
23:59.47 | DrodoEmpire | *their children |
23:59.53 | DrodoEmpire | Freedom means the freedom to be stupid |
23:59.58 | Technobliterator | DrodoEmpire, it does specifically say inheritable disabilities, though |