IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160911

00:02.11Wormy_gamesHm, not able to play Fallout 4 again
00:03.09DrodoEmpireHow come?
00:04.08Wormy_gamesI launch the game, press play, nothing happens, launcher re-opens
00:04.20Wormy_gamesLast time I verified the files on Steam and it was fixed.
00:04.25DrodoEmpireHmm, strange
00:21.58Quark8test
00:22.12DrodoEmpire420% xddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
00:22.27DrodoEmpire(crying laughing emoji)
00:22.36Quark8Yay?
00:22.53DrodoEmpirehur
00:23.12Quark8Damn I stink at making good flags/emblems.
00:23.23DrodoEmpireThere's a few people around that make good ones
00:23.28DrodoEmpireImperios and Charles_Murray namel
00:23.31DrodoEmpire*namely
00:24.18Quark8Right, but I feel a *little* guilty asking for stuff from people without giving anything in return.
00:26.16DrodoEmpireI can't speak for them but they don't bite XD
00:26.26DrodoEmpireSo if you need one I'd ask
00:26.48DrodoEmpireI speak from experience when I say a lack of images is a *bad thing*- see my pages
00:27.48Quark8Yeah.
00:29.29Quark8Apparently you do have an image of the Drodo - http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/aa/Drodo.png/revision/latest?cb=20140607001547.
00:34.38DrodoEmpireYeah that's the thingy Hachi made
00:34.41DrodoEmpireI know of it >.<
00:34.56HachimanI'll remake it maybe at some point
00:35.07DrodoEmpireIts a cool model, I like it, but I've been on the fence about using it too too much
00:35.22DrodoEmpireMostly because it'd be difficult to replicate Drodo clothing in Spore
00:35.25DrodoEmpireNah its cool
00:35.31DrodoEmpireHachiman
00:36.21DrodoEmpireI doodled some Drodo before, but I'm not the best drawer is the thing
00:36.31DrodoEmpireI have some available if you're interested Quark
00:36.38Quark8I'm not a very good one either.
00:36.43Quark8I would like to see some.
00:37.15DrodoEmpirekk lemme get them
00:37.54DrodoEmpirehttps://i.gyazo.com/31a605844422faeccc33a3a9293029c8.png - eh I'll post them here- This was of a Drodo colonial cavalryman
00:37.58DrodoEmpireFrom the quadrants
00:38.08DrodoEmpirehttps://i.gyazo.com/6ed076baff1ef884962b71a6a1cf4c22.png - Bottom detail
00:38.39DrodoEmpirehttps://i.gyazo.com/6ce6fe37564288a7e4c64b0a8c3dd61d.png - Top detail- notice the facial hair that all Drodo males wear basically (hard to shave off hair when you have fur in the way :p)
00:41.50Quark8I like 'em.
00:41.58DrodoEmpireOh, thanks
00:42.24Quark8I'm quite fond of their noses in particular.
00:42.49DrodoEmpireNah, not a nose
00:42.56DrodoEmpireActually their mouth, they lack a nose
00:43.26Quark8I see.
00:43.32DrodoEmpireBasically, its a human-sized mouth with teeth and all that on the end of an extended, reinforced part of the esophagus
00:43.44Quark8That's interesting.
00:44.34DrodoEmpireThey lack a jaw but I suppose they have strong mouth muscles that keep their mouth fairly "human looking" (bottom and top rows of keratin teeth, horizontal mouth, can smile/frown etc.)
00:45.36DrodoEmpirehttps://i.gyazo.com/2744c7b793edabf9818ea025eb78e30a.png - Not my best, but, a Drodo musketman
00:45.56DrodoEmpire(Either from Halifaxia in fantasyverse or historical in Fictionverse, take your pick)
00:46.54Quark8I like the detail. Just wondering, how many toes do the Drodo have?
00:47.07Quark8Can't tell from the picture.
00:47.16DrodoEmpireReally? :p
00:47.17DrodoEmpireAnyway
00:47.50DrodoEmpireTwo at the front, with one sorta "rear-toe" a bit like an avian back-talon
00:48.23DrodoEmpireOn their hands they have two, brawny fingers and a thumb
00:48.31Quark8Ah. I wasn't sure if that rear-toe was an additional main toe or not.
00:48.35DrodoEmpireAhh
00:49.10DrodoEmpireBoth the toe and fingertips are also made of keratin, at least as a top "layer", as you might've seen
00:53.12Quark8Ok.
01:05.04Quark8tets
01:05.08Quark8*tets
01:05.12Quark8*test damnit
01:19.51Quark8Hm. I am unsure if I should use this emblem, refit it or discard it - http://i.imgur.com/jN8qwgAb.jpg.
01:24.47DrodoEmpireLooks pretty nice
01:30.02Quark8Thanks. It's very uneven, though, but on a computer that could be rectified. I'm a little worried that some of the lines are too thin, and I'm unsure what colors it should contain (I'm favoring having the dragon-bird-dingy be of an azure tincture, while having the main background pursuer).
01:36.53DrodoEmpireHmm, right
01:42.15DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#.E2.80.A2LIVE:Political_Violence.2C_conflict_ahead_of_Drodo_Imperial_Election - new update
01:42.52Quark8Will take a look.
01:50.44Quark_LaptopCharles_Murray: *poke*
02:11.05Quark_LaptopHmm. I'm tempted to do another Sporewiki Game of Thrones simulator.
02:13.46DrodoEmpireOh?
02:14.01DrodoEmpire(Also did you see the update? Just curious)
02:15.06Quark_LaptopI did. Interesting developments.
02:15.48DrodoEmpireAhh, nice
02:16.10Quark_LaptopAlso, what kind of animal was sacrificed on Hinai? This is a pretty trivial question but eh.
02:16.34DrodoEmpireProbably several of the finest livestock on the planet
02:17.37DrodoEmpireAnd nah I love fluff questions like that
02:18.16DrodoEmpireAnimal sacrifices of that sort are pretty common, as most Drodo have some
02:18.25DrodoEmpire*have belief in ancestor worship or animist beliefs
02:18.41DrodoEmpireBeing tightly knit in big clans, and traditionalist
02:18.48Quark_LaptopRight.
02:21.10Quark_LaptopWell, I've decided to do the simulator. Here goes.
02:24.48Quark_LaptopWell. DrodoEmpire was assassinated by Theon Greyjoy after doing nothing :P.
02:26.59DrodoEmpire>:
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09:49.38JepardiHi
09:56.25Monethi
10:45.08TechnobliteratorI'll wait til more people are on then collect fictions to put on display
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11:02.14Technobliteratorhihi
11:03.14MonetHi
11:15.21Technobliteratoractually I'll just put up the thread now
11:20.39*** topic/#sporewiki by Technobliterator -> SporeWiki! http://spore.wikia.com || Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23sporewiki/ || Collaborative Universes: Sci-Fi http://tinyurl.com/3ddvp7q Fantasy http://tinyurl.com/p9qau7l || Titanpad: https://titanpad.com/ || Offtopic chat: #sporewiki-offtopic || http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:216142 Please submit fictions to read today!
11:21.46Technobliteratorand bbl
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12:23.47dino82_hi
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12:43.08dino82_howz all dong
12:49.32MonetHello
12:50.01DrodoEmpiretest
12:50.08DrodoEmpireHi everyone
12:51.03dino82_hi
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12:54.26Wormy_Roger Penrose's "Fashion, Faith and Fantasy" came to my door today.  And its chockfull of his abstract physics doodles that are part of the reason I wanted it.
12:54.45TreebeardHello
12:55.13MonetHello
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13:29.37Wormy_*Cue Babylon 5 music* (re-edited slightly with usernames) http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/07/Station_Halcyon_promotional_poster_for_SporeWiki.png/revision/latest?cb=20160911132855
13:30.16Wormy_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtrUhIuEqdY
13:32.48Wormy_I hope to return to Station Halcyon once planned stuff is done
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13:35.42Wormy_I think the new Station Halcyon should be the last vestige of the SSA, now largely unsupported by the Rambo, Capricornians and DCP.  Surviving, exploring the edge of uncharted territory, resisting the Empire, and most importantly, remain a symbol of peace
13:36.35Wormy_Also, maybe each series could base it in a different galaxy?
13:37.10TechnobliteratorOr in Deep Space
13:38.47Wormy_Could be
13:40.46DrodoEmpireAllright, fiction readin time :D
13:40.50DrodoEmpire*reading
13:43.46DrodoEmpire"Birth of the Gigaquadrant" seems interesting Wormy
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13:43.52HachimanHi
13:43.52DrodoEmpireHey
13:44.14DrodoEmpireWould I be correct in saying its a bit of an origin story for stuff?
13:44.21MonetHi
13:44.30Hachimantfw you eat too much food at a gathering
13:44.31DrodoEmpireSetting up the order of things pre-schism
13:44.40DrodoEmpireYeah... >.<
13:44.55OluapPlayer_hi
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13:55.10MonetHi
13:58.56dino82_@Wormy: sounds like a fun idea, are there still officers serving of the unsupported nations onboard? Or representatives?
13:59.17dino82_Apollo's niece her new appearance: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Alessandra_Zoe_CretaceaMasterChief.png
13:59.30dino82_and a Serindia in the new uniform: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Ramickon_Ramglover_(capt)Large.png
13:59.54dino82_@Wormy: Great image of Halcyon!
14:00.15DrodoEmpireHuh nice uniforms
14:03.17Wormy_Thanks dino!
14:03.39dino82_Yeah looks neat, and would be nice to Halcyon back in action
14:04.15DrodoEmpireI've always found it a bit odd that relatively few SW species seem to wear footwear <.<
14:04.18Wormy_DrodoEmpire:  Yes, its the origin of the Gigaquadrant from my fiction's perspective.  Although since Tigris War reboot still needs doing, it could become detailed with more fictions
14:04.24DrodoEmpireGranted, there're a lot of game limitations
14:04.33DrodoEmpireWormy_: Makes sense
14:04.45DrodoEmpireI do like how detailed it is in going in to the causes
14:04.49dino82_Most humanoid SW species where shoes
14:04.55DrodoEmpireYeah true
14:05.27Wormy_Mosat of my fictions have become so integrated and thematically linked I can no longer consider it just the DCP anymore
14:05.36dino82_Oh?
14:06.20Wormy_All the cause and effects are so detailed, it involves the DCP, all fictions they interact with, and my human elements
14:06.31DrodoEmpireAre the uniforms skintight? Just seems so so I'm curious >.<
14:06.43DrodoEmpireWormy_: Fair enough
14:06.52DrodoEmpire(Plus I like researching uniforms anyway)
14:06.57Wormy_Anyway, dino82, I think there should still be representatives from all species on Halvyon
14:07.05dino82_@Wormy: Ah, clear on that :D
14:07.23dino82_@Drodo: They are jumpsuites, so most are quite tight, except those of captains and admirality
14:07.37dino82_@Cadets uniforms as well, they are tight uniforms as well
14:07.44DrodoEmpireAhh
14:08.05Wormy_Anyway, I love the uniforms, I like how both are similar but made to fit different species
14:08.06dino82_@Wormy: Ithink as well, perhaps since the Rambo unsupported the SSa their might be a forgotten Rambo Command officer there without much of a purpose :D
14:08.40Wormy_That makes the role of the Rambo character very interesting, I think
14:08.48DrodoEmpireWormy_: What year is this? Just curious
14:08.56dino82_@Wormy: Thanks, took some time to do research etc. Actually the SporeWiki gave me inspirations as many thigns are gong to be more detailed and I found the Rambo could use more of a uniformity to recognise them easier, and with the CamBen Color Pack it allows me to do that :D
14:09.12DrodoEmpireHuh
14:09.18dino82_@Wormy: Oh nice Bablyon 5 Intro!
14:09.50Wormy_The Halcyon reboot episode is based three years after the Annihilation, but I'm not quite sure when the Annihilation event happened.  And then series 2 covers the time gap between then and now, and then series 3 would continue forward
14:09.58DrodoEmpireAhh
14:10.12DrodoEmpireYeah I'm not sure the Drodo could participate- they *could* but I dunno
14:10.29Wormy_Because that is a big time gap, it might be worth only making special episodes at specific points
14:10.39OluapPlayer_Annihilation = 2782
14:10.44Wormy_Thanks
14:11.03DrodoEmpireAs the Drodo were already relatively isolated until the 2780s-90s, and between the 2750s-early 2790s were in the midst of a period of *huge* social supheaval
14:11.06DrodoEmpire*upheaval
14:11.20DrodoEmpireBasically nonstop, Somalia-level conflict
14:11.22dino82_Annihilation has been a while for Rambo Nation as well , I think it happened near the end of Emperor Dino Le Rambo
14:11.39Wormy_Makes sense, maybe we would be more likely to see Drodo presence on the station in series 3?
14:11.45DrodoEmpireAbsolutely yeah
14:14.35DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Hard_Contact - Oh also- me and Tech have been working on this
14:15.02DrodoEmpireThe lack of images is awful, I know >.< But we're partway through the story regardless and I hope I can fix the image problem sooner than later
14:20.47Wormy_Reading it now
14:21.35DrodoEmpireAy thanks
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14:24.06Wormy_Certainly sets an interesting narrative, the Drodo coming to learn about the greater gigaquadrant in terms of first hand experience
14:24.29DrodoEmpireYeah, its another colonial venture in a part of space they've never been to
14:24.45DrodoEmpireHopefully it'll be an interesting read
14:28.37Wormy_Definitely, since it deals with the setting up of colonies from an inside perspective with characters.
14:28.54Wormy_Also, the Wranploer makes me think of the Affront in the Culture novels for some reason
14:29.06DrodoEmpireOh?
14:29.16MonetHello
14:29.42dino82_hi Charles
14:29.48Wormy_A brutish culture that collects weapons and even genitals of other species they killed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_civilisations_in_the_Culture_series#Affront
14:30.26DrodoEmpireAhh
14:30.33OluapPlayer_They don't do that sort of thing
14:30.53Wormy_The Culture tried to tame the racem for examplem they loved causing animals to suffer, so the Culture gave them mental zombies.  The Affront merely ignored the offer
14:31.22DrodoEmpireNot cultural or religious
14:33.27MonetNow I just remembered there's a taxidermy clone of the Seagon emperor in the Imperial palace.
14:34.25OluapPlayer_That would be extremely creepy and insensitive if the rest of the Seagon didn't hate the guy too
14:35.20MonetYeah I recently realised how dark that prospect is.
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14:37.31DrodoEmpireHey-what was last said?
14:37.42OluapPlayer_[11:32] <DrodoEmpire> Not cultural or religious
14:37.52DrodoEmpireAh, thanks
14:38.48MonetWe also chatted a little the creepyness of there being a taxedermied clone of a Seago ni nthe Imperial palace
14:39.04DrodoEmpireHm?
14:39.29OluapPlayer_It's a little disproportional since I don't recall the DI helping take Rothneld down
14:40.08OluapPlayer_Or fighting the Seagon Empire in general
14:40.28MonetThey could have been fighting the Seagon in the background.
14:40.39DrodoEmpireDI - we'll take credit anyway lol
14:41.15OluapPlayer_It can be shown in the remake I guess
14:41.22MonetIt was either Rothald or Volim that a hand was taken as a souvenier.
14:42.18OluapPlayer_It was Rothneld
14:42.32OluapPlayer_But I don't recall who was there
14:42.37DrodoEmpireActually its sorta interesting the Imperial palace does that, as the Drodo actually put their remains in large, well-organised clan tombs with the remains themselves being reduced to bones and put in small boxes- with a few notable excpetions
14:42.37OluapPlayer_I guess either Corteus or Sarec
14:43.30DrodoEmpireSometimes, with notable members of the clan, they honour them by taking their bones, and fixing them back together in a pose and putting it in a prominent area- an unnerving (to foreigners) sort of statue, basically
14:43.49OluapPlayer_spooky monument
14:44.04DrodoEmpireOften they dress the skeleton in a suit of armour, or some other identifiable outfit or item
14:44.09DrodoEmpirehur yeah
14:44.17MonetI think it was Corteus.
14:48.14MonetDrodoEmpire: THis is for enemies.
14:48.26DrodoEmpireThe taxidermy?
14:48.30MonetYeah
14:48.31DrodoEmpireMakes sense I suppose
14:49.06MonetFor members of the house, Draconis also build crypts and the bodies are treated to preserve the remains.
14:49.11DrodoEmpireAhh
14:49.32Wormy_Drodo:  Read it, great story.  Loved the fight scene at the end
14:49.38DrodoEmpireActually it'd sorta be funny if a DI citizen were to walk in to a big Drodo tomb and just see a dozen armoured skeletons staring back at him
14:49.43DrodoEmpireWell, *any* alien really
14:49.45DrodoEmpireOh thanks! :D
14:51.32Charles_MurrayIs anyone else missing the gaffes of the 2012 election? Those were actually funny
14:51.46DrodoEmpireHm?
14:51.56DrodoEmpireOh, right >.<
14:52.03DrodoEmpireYeah this election's nuts
14:52.06Charles_Murray"Binders full of women" "battleships" "47%"
14:52.17DrodoEmpireIn other news water is wet <.<
14:52.28Charles_Murraylol
14:52.45DrodoEmpireAnywho, its fiction sharing day where we all sit in a circle and sing or some dumb shit
14:52.55DrodoEmpire<.<
14:53.04DrodoEmpireSo if you want to Charles add a fic
14:53.05Charles_MurrayThat needs to be a quote on the fiction sharing day page
14:53.15DrodoEmpirehur
14:53.24Charles_MurrayI read "Charles" in that sentence as a verb
14:53.32Charles_MurrayResults are hilarious
14:53.39DrodoEmpireayy lmao
14:53.59Charles_MurrayGo home Drodo you're drunk
14:54.33DrodoEmpireThe Charles *is* probably some... I dunno, lindy hop move
14:54.55DrodoEmpireI'd need to rethink *many( things if I were drunk by 11:54 AM
14:55.47OluapPlayer_Wait where did you say you live again?
14:55.59DrodoEmpireI live in Nova Scotia
14:56.13OluapPlayer_Don't know where that is but we share the same timezone
14:56.27OluapPlayer_That's a first
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14:56.31DrodoEmpireIts the easternmost province of Canada :p
14:56.34DrodoEmpireBut yeah cool
14:56.55Charles_MurrayIt's 10:56 AM here
14:56.56OluapPlayer_I'm more used to people being 4 hours ahead of me
14:57.21DrodoEmpireYeah same, most users are in Europe/UK
14:58.07Charles_MurrayHow many people haven't read France's military section? Would that be a good pick? o.O
14:58.20DrodoEmpireSure
15:10.39dino82_Viva La France :d
15:14.37Charles_MurrayLong live Rambo Nation ;)
15:23.20Wormy_bbl
15:28.14dino82_@charles: Haha, I believe the motto would be Rambo Invicta, designed by Monet :d
15:30.11MonetUnder Rambert I agree.
15:42.13Charles_MurrayIf you want to be absolutely correct, it's "Vive la France" <.< >.>
15:42.21Charles_Murray"Viva" doesn't exist in French
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15:49.16Tek0516tosses Charles an authentic French baguette
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15:53.34OluapPlayer_Hi
15:53.43CyrannianHello everyone
15:54.08TreebeardHello
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15:54.53Quark8Hello.
15:59.10TreebeardHello
15:59.51Tek0516...I just dropped a plastic mustard container and a whole section just shattered. >.< I think they're going a little cheap on the containers.
16:01.11Tek0516So much mustard everywhere. >.>
16:01.40CyrannianIs the wiki going a bit slow for anyone else? Having trouble uploading an image
16:02.20CyrannianAh nevermind, seems alright now
16:03.01OluapPlayer_God I'm so bored
16:03.06OluapPlayer_Cyrannian: Can we work on any fiction?
16:03.26CyrannianSure, I'm free now
16:18.29MonetTek0516: What kind of surface did the container break on?
16:19.15Tek0516Monet: Some kind of... I forget the name for that fake wood stuff.
16:20.29HachimanLaminate?
16:20.39Tek0516Yeah, that stuff.
16:20.44Tek0516Only fell maybe three feet. Problem is that since it has that seal thing on the nozzle it's useless. :/
16:21.57MonetAh.
16:22.02MonetHm does sound like cheap plastic.
16:23.58Tek0516Not some no name brand either, which surprises me. Probably just some corporate guy wanting to cut some costs by reducing the cost of the bottle.
16:25.02MonetProbably.
16:25.29MonetI mean the brands aren't as responsible for the packaging as they are the contents.
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16:31.33NeonPandahi all
16:32.35Quark8Hello NeonPanda.
16:37.22TreebeardHello
16:37.39Wormy_awayThis is such a horrible page for such an important event http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Coming_of_the_Singularity
16:37.50Wormy_awaywill re-write eventually
16:38.37OluapPlayer_what's so bad about it?
16:39.26Wormy_awayThere's stuff in it I could do so much better.  At the time I was trying to introduce a new concept, so it looks more like that
16:39.55Wormy_awayAlso numerous spelling errors, red links, poorly "photoshopped" images by myself, and so on
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16:40.49Quark8Hello Xho.
16:40.58OluapPlayer_Hi
16:41.04MonetHi
16:41.15TreebeardHello
16:41.45Xhohx
16:43.49Wormy_away“The AI does not hate you, nor does it love you, but you are made out of atoms which it can use for something else.”  Is that really very profound?  We're all atoms to be used for something-else to a lion, though lion genes contain no knowledge of atoms.
16:45.07Wormy_awayanyway, true AI are people too and may have personalities like ours to very alien ones.
16:45.13OluapPlayer_The sentence itself is not incorrect
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16:45.24dino82_darn connection disconnection
16:45.40OluapPlayer_The AI may be intelligent but that doesn't mean it feels empathy
16:45.58Wormy_awayMaybe, but its hard to say what true AI will think of us.  Lets hope they don't see us as atoms to use for something-else
16:46.12OluapPlayer_Some might, some might not
16:46.15XhoIf the AI in GTA V is anything to go by, it hates humanity
16:46.22OluapPlayer_Regardless the chance exists so the sentence is not wrong
16:46.23MonetWell our brains are still very sophisticated
16:47.09Wormy_awayI think I quoted it at the time because I like "To use as atoms for something-else"
16:47.14Wormy_away*liked
16:48.19Wormy_awayJust critiquing my earlier not-quite me self
16:50.05GhelawaySo it's not that the sentence is wrong, but that it isn't a particularly important point.
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16:50.27Quark8|AwayHello DrodoEmpire.
16:50.30DrodoEmpireBack >.<
16:50.30DrodoEmpireHi
16:51.58Wormy_awayThat's what I meant, yes.  I found it profound at the time, not quite so profound now
16:52.36MonetXho: what aspect of the GTA AI?
16:52.55HachimanThe one where cops shoot you for just being close to them
16:52.56Wormy_awayI hear that Elite_Dangerous AI is making the game unplayable
16:53.52MonetI actually wonder now if the joke "IN GTA the local pedestrian sport is 'dive in front of an oncoming car' is partially intentional.
16:55.16MonetThe pedestrians that do that could either be suicidal, or want to commit health insurance fraud.
16:55.30OluapPlayer_Or they're just stupid
16:55.39OluapPlayer_which is the theory I adhere to
16:56.40MonetCould be a combination
16:57.12MonetThey want to commit health insurance fraud but are too stupid to realise the car they're jumping in front of is going too fast for them to survive.
16:57.15OluapPlayer_No way every NPC in the game is suicidal to the point they dive into your car instead of away from it
16:57.40OluapPlayer_Nor were they developed with that sort of thing in mind, it sounds like reading too deep into it
16:58.26MonetCould have been a bug that the developers thought "ah let's keep it, it looks funny" - that happens a lot.
16:58.39OluapPlayer_That's the most probable answer
16:58.54XhoMonet: Traffic mostly
16:59.03MonetAt least for me it does build into how the cities you drive around in are populated by people you'd want to run over.
16:59.13OluapPlayer_That's the reason planes sometimes spawn too close to the ground in SA and just crash. They found it during development and just kept it because it was funny
16:59.21HachimanMonet's gradually becoming Game Theory as time goes on
17:00.04HachimanNext he'll be saying that the default Minecraft character is actually Hitler or something
17:00.17OluapPlayer_Godwins quota achieved
17:01.17MonetI'm cool with that. I've accepted long ago I love to deeply analyse.
17:01.31OluapPlayer_http://i.imgur.com/WsOtekL.mp4 have a monkey in a jacket
17:01.38MonetXho: I hear traffic in LA is generally shit.
17:02.31MonetOluapPlayer_: All that gif needs is some West-coast rap in the background and it's perfect.
17:02.44OluapPlayer_This all being said, one of my passtimes in GTA is hitting bikes and send their riders flying
17:02.47OluapPlayer_Boing
17:03.04MonetI used to love the collision physics in IV
17:03.35MonetEngagei n head on collision -> fly through the windscreen to the next block over.
17:03.40OluapPlayer_Colliding with pedestrians while you're in a bike is also funny because they're sent flying straight up for some reason
17:11.51DrodoEmpiretest
17:12.13MonetI concluded a couple of years ago that the insufferability of every single NPC was to minimise the guilt of the player felt for going on a murder spree.
17:13.54DrodoEmpireYeah probably
17:14.11DrodoEmpireIts meant to be lighthearted craziness even if the stuff you're doing's so clearly fucked up >.<
17:15.03MonetYeah.
17:15.16OluapPlayer_Yes like the time I stole a tank and bombarded the city so I could finish the vigilante missions
17:15.20OluapPlayer_Always love doing that
17:17.35MonetIt's part of the cathartic factor.
17:17.58OluapPlayer_You bump into cars and they explode
17:18.04OluapPlayer_Never gets out
17:18.06OluapPlayer_old even
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17:32.26Tek0516Bah. I win a war in CK2 and it makes me at war with someone else over what I captured. >.<
17:33.08Tek0516And I only got one of the two counties I declared for. >.>
17:35.21MonetLife.
17:40.41DrodoEmpireOuch
17:40.51DrodoEmpireAlso for a minute I thought you said you won a *car* in CKII
17:40.52DrodoEmpire<.<
17:42.39OluapPlayer_went to war cause the enemy king's ride was better than yours
17:42.43Quark8What country are you playing as?
17:43.19DrodoEmpireayy lmao
17:57.00XhoMonet: Makes sense, I'd hate to see a GTA in Rome
17:57.33XhoOr Paris
17:57.36XhoOr London
17:57.48XhoActually London's GTA would be easier if you just walked everywhere
17:58.05OluapPlayer_Actually there was a GTA set in London
17:58.07DrodoEmpireIsn't Paris alright for driving- if that's what you mean?
17:58.09DrodoEmpireYeah
17:58.13OluapPlayer_One of the expansions for GTA 1 I think
17:58.16DrodoEmpire^
17:58.21Xhohuh well
17:58.32DrodoEmpireI mean, they tore down the entire city in the late 19th century and rebuilt it with wide, planned grids
17:58.33XhoDrodoEmpire: Yeah it's not that bad actually come to think of it
17:58.42dino82_A GTA in the Netherlands wouldn't be ideal either, way to much traffic and narrow streets
17:58.53DrodoEmpireYeah most European cities are ancient is the thing
17:59.11DrodoEmpireWhile most American cities only really developed after the automobile/industrial revolution
17:59.23DrodoEmpireThat makes American cities unattractive, but a bit more efficient
17:59.30OluapPlayer_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto:_London,_1969 there we go
17:59.37XhoNew York's alright
17:59.48XhoNew York is far more appealing than London
17:59.51DrodoEmpireWhile European cities tend to be very pretty but a pain to drive in
17:59.56DrodoEmpireFair enough
17:59.59XhoLondon is a labyrinthine cock-up
18:00.12OluapPlayer_"The pack was a best-seller in the UK."
18:00.13OluapPlayer_heh
18:00.23XhoI got stuck on the South Orbital Road for over an hour once just trying to get off it
18:00.26DrodoEmpireI mean, my town isn't too bad- downtown is full of victorian-era buildings
18:00.42DrodoEmpireBut it suffers from nonsensical road systes
18:00.44DrodoEmpire*ms
18:01.16XhoSouthampton's transport infrastructure is god awful
18:01.19XhoI hate driving in it
18:04.37MonetThe maze of roads in London is why I prefer the tube.
18:04.47XhoThe tube's a bit of a maze as well
18:04.50XhoWaterloo especially
18:05.04MonetIt's a well-signposted maze though.
18:05.15XhoI guess it is
18:05.31XhoI never quite figured out why the Paris metro smells so bad
18:05.41XhoEven London's smells better
18:05.51DrodoEmpireStinky French people and their cigarettes <.<
18:06.02XhoBritish people ain't much better trust me
18:06.14DrodoEmpirehur
18:06.22XhoJapanese transport infrastructure is terrifyingly good
18:06.25dino82_bye bye
18:06.30Xhobye
18:06.32Xhofuck
18:06.32Wormy_awayMy experience of European cities have been rather positive in comparison to British ones late at night
18:07.39XhoI just wanna live in Japan
18:08.00Hachimanweeb
18:08.05Xhosez u
18:08.26XhoFrom experience it makes the UK look like a ghetto
18:08.29Wormy_away2 weeks in three different regions of Spain, late night life was vibrant, the streets were cleaned, even families out at dinner at midnight.  Hm, people had spontaneous tango; and these kids had a bong with the police just walking by
18:09.40MonetI can't really say much.
18:09.40Wormy_awayI arrive back in Manchester at night and walk to a chip shop from the airport, I see youths smashing bottles and vandalising things, pools of blood on the floor, and an old woman so drunk she kept smashing her head on a bus stop.  And it was raining
18:09.51MonetBarcelona was pretty clean, never tried its metro.
18:09.54XhoAh yes Manchester
18:10.04XhoI heard Liverpool's quite decent
18:10.05MonetAfter experiencing the NYC subway I don't want to set foot in it again.
18:10.36XhoNYC Subway's a roulette I found
18:10.52Wormy_awayI went out in Derby last week to a gig and got aggro by some chav because I looked at a traffic light next to me, and he thought I was looking at him
18:10.57XhoYou might be fine on one trip, on the other you'll have a crazy in your cab
18:11.05Wormy_awayI literally fear for my safety in Nottingham or Derby at night
18:11.45Wormy_awayYou hear of people getting stabbed for less than that
18:12.30Wormy_awayI'm from a town in the countryside though, so I'm not used to it
18:12.31MonetXho: First trip was during commute hours, second I and friends shared a car with a street preacher for a couple of stops.
18:12.45XhoOh wow
18:13.04Cyrannian|awayhttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/3/30/Battle_of_the_Temporal_Gateway.png/revision/latest?cb=20160911181142 - c pew pew
18:13.20XhoThe key to getting through NYC unhindered is to walk fast and not make eye contact
18:13.30XhoNo one talks to you then
18:13.31MonetPossibly crowned by how she continued to preach as she left the car.
18:13.50Wormy_awayXho:  Walking thru Nottingham in a nutshell
18:14.01XhoSouthampton as well, just any city realy
18:14.38XhoCyrannian|away: You need to put a giant Thomas the Tank Engine in there just for shits and giggles
18:14.48Wormy_awaylol
18:16.20Cyrannian|awayone of these days I'll do that
18:16.33MonetLife advice: If  street preacher starts their rhetoric with "I am not asking you to worship Him in fear" - they're about to deliver some heavy "worship God or you will suffer"
18:17.19MonetI can't quite remember the phrasing but I do remember it sounded like he was about to detail why not worshipping God is a scary thing.
18:17.33DrodoEmpireAh
18:17.42MonetI feel glad these kinds of public-speaking of nutters are questioned here in the UK
18:17.45XhoHachiman: "Stranger Things is my new favourite anime"
18:17.56HachimanStill need to watch that
18:18.03XhoI don't even know what it is
18:19.38Xho'supernatural horror'
18:19.39Xhongh
18:19.50XhoI was watching Silence of the Lambs earlier
18:19.57XhoCan't quite believe I got bored watching it
18:19.59HachimanSupernatural horror with sci-fi elements as far as I know
18:20.33MonetXho: I like that film.
18:21.25XhoIt was alright
18:21.36XhoI wasn't particularly engaged with it
18:21.41Monet"I imagine that in the Oval Office, there is a calendar that President Obama walks up to each morning, where he dutifully crosses off each passing day with a red marker, leading to milestones at November 8th and then January 20th. Beginning all days after the 20th, there is a big horizontal line crossing out all remaining dates, with the words “OBAMA FUNTIME” written across each week."
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18:21.50OluapPlayerGoddamnit
18:21.56OluapPlayerXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KrNPnyJ3Xg old gold
18:22.22XhoAh yes
18:22.33Xhogb7zone7's wild fixation on Will Smith
18:22.59OluapPlayerI miss gb7's videos
18:23.04OluapPlayerHim and his Will Smith
18:23.06DrodoEmpirehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CsFBnK3XgAAN9Bz.jpg
18:25.08OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvF72n-7HwM
18:25.36XhoMY PIES
18:26.02XhoDrodoEmpire: I always thought dabbing was hailing Hitler and being guilty about it
18:26.07OluapPlayerAlso his video titles were top tier
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18:26.53Quark_LaptopHello.
18:27.00ImperiosHiya
18:28.29Xhohand sanitizer
18:28.30Charles_BotMy train to New York has been delayed almost a full hour xD
18:28.37Charles_BotThis happens every time
18:28.38Quark_LaptopDamn.
18:30.11OluapPlayerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfbnxKC80Qs this one too
18:31.58Charles_BotThis train was supposed to leave the station at 1:50
18:32.03Charles_BotIt's 2:30
18:32.19Charles_BotAnd apparently it's getting here in 15 minutes
18:35.20MonetDamn. That is quite the delay.
18:38.35XhoOluapPlayer: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
18:38.59OluapPlayerooooooooo OOOOOOOOOOOOOO
18:39.42MonetSo we're getting this https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/snowden/reviews/ ...yay?
18:43.22OluapPlayerNever heard of
18:45.16MonetNSA guy.
18:45.31HachimanAh, the whistleblower
18:45.37MonetYeah.
18:47.06MonetPersonally I'm not keen on him on the basis that it was revealed the files he leaked set back counter-terrorism efforts by several years.
18:49.17MonetThe mass surveillance stuff was concerning and I respect that being released. But there were also a number of documents that exposed genuine anti-terror operations in the U.S. and Afghanistan.
18:52.54DrodoEmpiretest
18:53.21Quark_LaptopPassed.
19:00.44DrodoEmpiretest
19:09.37Wormy_awayFound typo of the week
19:09.49Wormy_away"However, the DCP has a new weapon designed to counter the Steelhammer, the Stabilizer Class Heavy Battle Platform, a large pyramid shaped hovercraft enshrouded in a cloud of nannies. "  http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Attero_Dominatus/Milky_Way_Campaign#Storm_of_Vengeance
19:10.08Wormy_away>enshrouded with a cloud of nannies
19:10.26Wormy_awayIts too good to correct
19:12.31DrodoEmpireolol
19:13.04OluapPlayerSo the DCP fires grandmas as ammo
19:13.07OluapPlayerthat's metal
19:13.42DrodoEmpire"A nice grandma who fights in intergalactic wars"
19:13.45DrodoEmpire<.<
19:14.05Tek0516I know that reference. I think.
19:14.16DrodoEmpireCookie Clicker
19:14.25DrodoEmpireOr whatever its called, its been too long
19:14.46Tek0516Yeah. I was replaying it recently for some reason
19:14.53OluapPlayerThat's the name
19:14.54DrodoEmpireAhh
19:15.06OluapPlayerIt's still around, receiving updates every once in a while
19:15.28Tek0516Oh yeah, today's date. Just noticed.
19:22.31HachimanAh, yeah; 11/9
19:39.20Quark_LaptopUgh. I was eating a cookie, saw what seemed to be a piece of it on the napkin and ate it, only to realize that it was a piece of ripped cardboard.
19:39.38Hachimanolol
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20:02.02Quark_LaptopBbs lunch.
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20:31.34Quark_LaptopHello.
20:50.56OluapPlayerImperios: I got a request
20:51.15ImperiosHm?
20:51.27OluapPlayerCould you make a new flag for the Indoc Collective?
20:51.32OluapPlayerThe one I made looks like butt
20:51.36ImperiosRight
20:51.42ImperiosFlag or emblem?
20:51.58OluapPlayerDo you have a preference?
20:53.04ImperiosI'd probably do both
20:53.26OluapPlayerI'd not mind it
20:53.33ImperiosThough your flag seems okay as it is, it just needs to be a little more prim
20:53.51ImperiosAny preferences regarding the colouring and symbols on the emblem?
20:54.05OluapPlayerIt's something I made in 2011 in paint
20:54.16OluapPlayerSymbols I'm not sure. But it should definitely be red
20:55.44ImperiosIt'll probably have a book as its central element
20:55.58OluapPlayerA book works
20:56.07ImperiosDo Dracs have conventional books? I could use something like a scroll instead
20:56.18OluapPlayerThey probably do
20:56.30OluapPlayerI'd be weird for a race of scientists to not have books
20:57.07ImperiosI mean books like we know them
20:57.24ImperiosThey could have differently shaped... pieces of paper for storing text
20:57.34OluapPlayerHm
20:58.38OluapPlayerWell for day to day work they probably use electronic storage rather than paper. Paper books would be mostly historical stuff for people who read for leisure
20:59.15ImperiosProbably yeah
20:59.47ImperiosI'll use a normal book then. In general heraldry (at least on Earth) does not use too modern symbols
20:59.56XhoOluapPlayer: Two vids in one year? bruh
21:00.20OluapPlayer3 if you count my announcement video
21:00.27Xhonu
21:00.48ImperiosModern things are shown using abstract symbols, like the cog standing for industry
21:01.13ImperiosThere are exceptions of course
21:01.17Imperioshttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Emblem_of_North_Korea.svg Like the emblem of North Korea
21:01.19ImperiosBut that's...
21:01.20ImperiosNorth Korea
21:01.33OluapPlayerDams and corn
21:04.50Wormy_awayWho was that user who made the great SporeWiki timeline?
21:05.06OluapPlayerGood question
21:05.24Xhotimeline master
21:05.25Xho???
21:05.33OluapPlayerI don't recall his name other than it had numbers in it
21:05.37GhelawayBanelord88
21:05.37Xho1234
21:05.41OluapPlayerYeah that one
21:05.44Wormy_awayThanks
21:07.29OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: Are you there?
21:07.36TechnobliteratorI am
21:07.47OluapPlayerShouldn't you be doing anything about the fiction reading day?
21:07.53TechnobliteratorI mean
21:07.57TechnobliteratorThe post is up
21:08.04OluapPlayerYes, what next
21:08.13Wormy_awayI might have the GXS stuff done by the end of the night for it
21:08.14TechnobliteratorYou guys read and discuss :o
21:08.47Wormy_awayI think we should give it another day, since it was only active this morning
21:09.09TechnobliteratorSure
21:09.11OluapPlayerAlso get the final fight section of Da Reckoning published so we can work on the ending
21:09.22Xho>da reckoning
21:09.24Wormy_awayAnd it needs more stuff put on it
21:09.27Technobliteratorwill do
21:09.32Xhohow long has that been going n
21:09.39Technobliteratorthat's a monday thing, probably
21:09.39OluapPlayerOne moth
21:09.51OluapPlayerWhy not do it now?
21:10.11TechnobliteratorI'm a little sleepy
21:10.14TechnobliteratorBut I could try it
21:10.19OluapPlayerLink me the pad and I'll do it then
21:11.13Technobliteratoroh wait
21:11.17TechnobliteratorJust the final fight?
21:11.26OluapPlayerYes, I want to publish it
21:11.30TechnobliteratorI need to do the summaries first
21:11.34Technobliteratorbut what we could do
21:11.42Technobliteratoris just publish it now and I'll do the summaries tomorrow
21:11.44OluapPlayerYou don't NEED to, you just want to
21:12.11TechnobliteratorI'll publish the fight now, summaries can come tomorrow
21:12.12OluapPlayerThe fight is not the ending anyway so no point waiting
21:12.24Technobliteratoror in a couple hours
21:19.00Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Da_Reckoning#Overcoming_Sin !!!!
21:20.46Xhodat pic
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21:23.26Xhohttps://twitter.com/GMod_Xho So I got around to making a Twitter account for internet personae
21:24.10DrodoEmpireTech: Taking a look
21:24.52ImperiosOluapPlayer: I'll probably use another element: a bundle of sticks
21:25.04OluapPlayerWhy sticks?
21:25.17ImperiosIt would stand for the Collective's unity
21:25.20ImperiosYou know, fasces
21:25.34OluapPlayerRight
21:25.35ImperiosLike a single stick can be easily broken but a bandle cannot
21:25.39ImperiosAlso fasces = fascism
21:25.46ImperiosKind of fits the Collective
21:26.08Quark_Laptopbrb
21:26.10OluapPlayerI'd not be that blunt but I guess it's correct
21:26.24Monethttps://media1.britannica.com/eb-media/20/95620-004-4AE21086.jpg "alone we are fragile, together we are unbreakable"
21:26.36OluapPlayerXho: jesus that pic
21:26.50Xhotopayto
21:38.27OluapPlayerXho: Make sure to follow Garry so you can see him talk about how he shat or peed himself in a weekly basis
21:39.13Xhoright
21:44.27DrodoEmpiretest
21:45.58OluapPlayer"the best way to solve problems is to create more problems until you are dead"
21:46.12Xholife
21:53.25HachimanImperios: So, like the Five Nations
21:53.28HachimanAnd their arrows
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21:59.15OluapPlayerhi
21:59.24CyrannianHello
22:00.08XhoOluapPlayer: That fanfiction_txt is hilarious
22:00.14OluapPlayerYep
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22:03.15XhoTechnobliterator: JOL'KIAR MAKES SURPRISE RETURN: PIZZA LOVERS FEAR THE WORST
22:11.08XhoWhich reminds me, I'm hungry
22:12.25Technobliterator:P
22:16.22Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Neraida_War#Battle_of_the_Temporal_Gateway - Take a look
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22:27.51Quark_LaptopHello.
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22:37.19DrodoEmpireHi
22:38.03Wormy_awayOh dear I've losat one of my own (and an important) fiction page
22:38.53OluapPlayerThat being?
22:38.58Quark_LaptopHow did that come to be?
22:39.26Wormy_awayAn obscure GXS page with Emperor Wormulus II and the Council debating about whether to invade Andromeda
22:39.38OluapPlayerOh
22:39.50OluapPlayerCan't help with that one
22:40.30Wormy_awayIt was to show the stark contrast between the two different DCP personalities seen in fictions
22:41.18Wormy_awayBecause it was unfinished it is an orphaned page with no links
22:41.50Wormy_awayGoing to have to find it the hard way by going through my edits.
22:46.28Wormy_awayhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Great_Xonexian_Schism/Inheritance
23:06.30MonetWormy_Away: It's an interesting start.
23:07.08MonetLots of frantic discussion, the tension is so great one could break it with a spoon.
23:08.03Wormy_awayI was inspired by our discussion; the DCP can appear both ruthless, cold and warmongering, but it can also be seen as a source of protection and loyal ally
23:08.29Wormy_awayOne way to reconcile this, is to suggest it has two kinds of leadership at work
23:09.03Wormy_awayWormulus maintains power by his prestige and essence powers, but not necessarily have much say ultimately
23:09.43Wormy_awayThe other cuncil leaders maintain immortality by technology, but flawed they have become callous and demented, hucked to constant life support machines
23:10.16OluapPlayerLiterally the Empire of Man
23:10.19OluapPlayerImperium even
23:10.32Wormy_awayYep, but with a whole council of decaying emperors
23:10.37MonetYep.
23:10.48Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Du%27utahrovin - finished
23:10.59OluapPlayergo bak to skyrim and stay there
23:11.18Wormy_awayI will check out yours and Techno's pages when I'm done with /Recent Works
23:11.18Cyranniankrosis to u
23:11.31MonetThough I guess it could be difficult to tell if Voraamach is immensely paranoid or of he has a point - the Draocnis have negotiated with the Precursors.
23:13.21MonetThe WoA remake also has the Draconis be supportive of but not a part of the SSA.
23:14.39OluapPlayerCyrannian: if Gorf ever meets Helo Roslia he should be able to see his Messenger and do jokes to her. Everyone else thinks Gorf is talking to himself and shrugs it off as normal
23:15.04MonetSo it's quite understandable some politicians might see a narrative of manipulation coming from the Imperium.
23:15.19Cyrannianthat sounds like it would make sense
23:15.49Cyrannian"why is he humping the air?"
23:16.09OluapPlayerGorf - this not hump          it special gorf massage
23:16.27MonetWould be somewhat interesting if the Draconis found themselves being mistaken for the Alpha Draconians.
23:16.52OluapPlayerGorf sees Helo's messenger and becomes convinced she's Gianne's vengeful ghost
23:18.21Cyrannianhur
23:28.30Wormy_awayMonet:  One of those things that blend reality and myth, I guess
23:30.15Cyrannianrightio guys, I have my first day at university tomorrow and I need to get up at 5:30 AM, so nightie night and wish me luck
23:30.27OluapPlayerhope u die shitter
23:30.33Cyrannian<3
23:30.33MonetNightie-whitie.
23:31.52MonetWormy_Away: Yeah. Though maybe I also enjoy seeing negative (in-universe) reactions to the Dracs.
23:32.25Wormy_awayCyrannian|away: Don't let bed bugs bite
23:35.08Cyrannian|awayI'll bite them first
23:36.13DrodoEmpiretest
23:36.25Tek0516A-
23:48.46DrodoEmpireHmm, has anyone flipped through the Chalag Khanate?
23:49.25DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AChalag_Khanate

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