| 00:01.11 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#.E2.80.A2LIVE:Political_Violence.2C_conflict_ahead_of_Drodo_Imperial_Election - New stuff |
| 00:01.22 | DrodoEmpire | Dunno if I posted about the update earlier |
| 00:01.25 | DrodoEmpire | But still |
| 00:02.44 | Wormy_ | I'm intrigued by Khavni H'Varanan |
| 00:03.46 | DrodoEmpire | Oh? |
| 00:05.24 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ADrodo_Empire#Political_Parties - You can place foreign supporters under the political party tabs |
| 00:08.15 | DrodoEmpire | (If you're interested) |
| 00:08.48 | DrodoEmpire | What do you find intriguing? |
| 00:09.04 | Wormy_ | THe DCP isn't really a supporter of socialism as we understand it But they probably see this as an opportunity to spread their own ideals |
| 00:09.13 | DrodoEmpire | Quite possibly |
| 00:09.16 | Wormy_ | By supporting that Drodo |
| 00:09.29 | DrodoEmpire | The socialists are radical leftists, very much so futurists and transhumanists |
| 00:10.13 | DrodoEmpire | So they might float close to DCP ideology |
| 00:12.01 | DrodoEmpire | That being said, I'll give you fair warning- the Socialists come close to straddling the line between political party and terrorist group, and are *extremely* unpopular with the Drodo public for many good reasons >.< |
| 00:12.38 | DrodoEmpire | They're authoritarian leftists who refuse to compromise to win more votes as the formerly hyper far-right Free Drodo did |
| 00:12.52 | Charles_Murray | Speaaaking of elections |
| 00:12.56 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
| 00:13.09 | Charles_Murray | French elections of 2812: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#Results_of_the_French_elections_of_2812 |
| 00:13.24 | Charles_Murray | Tybusen Wormy_ Monet_2 DrodoEmpire ImpyDroid |
| 00:14.04 | Monet_2 | In a bit |
| 00:16.12 | DrodoEmpire | Read through |
| 00:16.17 | DrodoEmpire | Very interesting development |
| 00:16.21 | Wormy_ | Drodo: The DCP don't tend to like revolutionists |
| 00:16.34 | DrodoEmpire | Especially considering it seems like a right-wing party's coming to the Drodo Empire >.< |
| 00:16.36 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 00:17.10 | DrodoEmpire | I figure they wouldn't want to be caught supporting such an unpopular, borderline militarist organisation >.< |
| 00:17.38 | Technobliterator | In URO, right wing politics doesn't really exist outside of wartimes |
| 00:17.47 | DrodoEmpire | Fair enough |
| 00:17.48 | Technobliterator | The Libertarian Party is right wing on economic issues |
| 00:17.52 | Technobliterator | But that's it |
| 00:18.13 | Charles_Murray | Technobliterator : the left has won in France http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#Results_of_the_French_elections_of_2812 |
| 00:18.16 | Technobliterator | I guess the Gangsta Party is far right but it's also for free pizza |
| 00:18.18 | Technobliterator | yeah, I just saw |
| 00:18.24 | Technobliterator | I'm going to make a comment soon |
| 00:18.27 | Wormy_ | Well, there would be a strange logic that if a revolution did occur, the end result might be a Drodo government closer to the DCP's political circle, and possibly dependent on DCP aid |
| 00:18.30 | Charles_Murray | What do you think? ^.^ |
| 00:18.40 | Technobliterator | Haven't finished reading yet :P |
| 00:18.42 | Wormy_ | I'll check it out now |
| 00:18.53 | DrodoEmpire | The Drodo are culturally very conservative, so they tend towards libertarian, moderately right-wing parties |
| 00:19.05 | DrodoEmpire | Like the new Free Drodo or Aristocratic Party |
| 00:19.26 | Technobliterator | Ottzelloans could never really be conservative after UNO |
| 00:19.33 | Technobliterator | They basically lived in a literal 1984 |
| 00:19.36 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, fair enough |
| 00:20.04 | DrodoEmpire | (Granted, the Drodo are only culturally conservative so far as they're *extremely* protective and proud of their culture, traditionalist) |
| 00:21.20 | DrodoEmpire | (They love tourists, and their culture[s] still tends to be pretty wild and open to parties) |
| 00:21.31 | DrodoEmpire | (Not all ABSOLUTELY HARAM) |
| 00:22.17 | Technobliterator | yeah, URO despise notions of tradition because they associate it with UNO, where it was more or less forced |
| 00:22.26 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 00:22.28 | Technobliterator | but forced in a subtle way |
| 00:22.39 | Technobliterator | Cultural norms were that way because AIs wanted them to be |
| 00:22.57 | DrodoEmpire | Severe cultural difference in that case >.< |
| 00:24.08 | DrodoEmpire | I wonder what the average URO tourist would think of some Drodo festivals, actually |
| 00:29.09 | Technobliterator | I posted |
| 00:29.16 | Technobliterator | I'm not sure |
| 00:31.55 | DrodoEmpire | I mean, Drodo festivals often happen in the summer, traditionally after a harvest |
| 00:32.28 | DrodoEmpire | They tend to involve a *ton* of wild partying, good stuff- but also a lot of animal sacrifice dedicated to the ancestors, the gods, etc. |
| 00:33.00 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo clans take ancestor worship in general quite seriously, which may come off as hokey or superstitious to foreigners |
| 00:33.02 | Charles_Murray | Technobliterator :D |
| 00:33.58 | DrodoEmpire | (Also, variably, things like paganism, animism, and Catholicism which was introduced by French missionaries) |
| 00:35.40 | DrodoEmpire | >"POLITIKZ" |
| 00:35.42 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 00:37.01 | Charles_Murray | I loved your characterization of the election lol |
| 00:37.19 | Technobliterator | oh, the Filthy Frank reference was not intended |
| 00:37.27 | Hachiman | I'M A SPIRITUAL LYRICAL INDIVIDUAL SPIRITUAL MIRACLE LYRICAL INDIVIDUAL SPIRITUAL MIRACLE INDIVIDUAL |
| 00:37.31 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 00:38.50 | DrodoEmpire | But, yeah |
| 00:39.05 | DrodoEmpire | With that info in mind, I do wonder how a URO tourist may feel |
| 00:39.16 | DrodoEmpire | Hell, I wonder how a French tourist may feel |
| 00:39.27 | Technobliterator | and yes, it is a tradition for Gangsta candidates to spit in the face of whoever beat them when they lose an election |
| 00:39.42 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 00:41.37 | Technobliterator | URO tourists are open minded and embrace other cultures, so they would probably be cool with it |
| 00:41.55 | DrodoEmpire | Huh, nice |
| 00:42.20 | Technobliterator | Ottzelloans always embraced multiculturalism a lot, they just now embrace more so in that they reject their old ideas of culture |
| 00:42.31 | DrodoEmpire | Right, right |
| 00:42.42 | Technobliterator | Because they associate it with the 1984 they lived in |
| 00:43.44 | DrodoEmpire | Makes sense, yeah- they reacted against their former ideology and culture |
| 00:45.09 | Technobliterator | since it was mostly artificial |
| 00:45.13 | Tybusen | inb4 URO tourists shit on park benches |
| 00:45.21 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 00:46.44 | Charles_Murray | Tybusen : http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#Results_of_the_French_elections_of_2812 |
| 00:48.02 | Tybusen | POTATO - dam commies |
| 00:48.42 | Charles_Murray | Anan - Democrats* |
| 00:48.47 | Charles_Murray | Anan - You have them too |
| 00:49.36 | Tybusen | POTATO - looks like we need a new HUAC |
| 00:49.41 | DrodoEmpire | Actually on that |
| 00:49.51 | DrodoEmpire | What system of govt. does POTATO use? |
| 00:49.55 | DrodoEmpire | What parties are there? |
| 00:50.12 | DrodoEmpire | I know its like a union of the USA, Canada, and Mexico among a few others I think |
| 00:50.37 | Tybusen | Haven't really thought about it, but I'd imagine it's largely the same as today |
| 00:50.52 | Tybusen | US, Canada, Mexico, and Philippines are the big 4 members of POTATO |
| 00:51.12 | Monet_2 | With a..how you say... two idiot system? :p |
| 00:51.32 | DrodoEmpire | Well |
| 00:51.46 | DrodoEmpire | No, same system as today, but *what* system |
| 00:51.48 | DrodoEmpire | *? |
| 00:51.48 | Charles_Murray | Monet_2 Hay |
| 00:51.53 | DrodoEmpire | American-style democracy? |
| 00:52.01 | Tybusen | Ideally both the Democratic Party and GOP would have been purged with fire and new non-corporate parties take their place |
| 00:52.02 | Tybusen | Hmm |
| 00:52.02 | DrodoEmpire | English-style Parliamentary Republic? |
| 00:52.12 | DrodoEmpire | (i.e best system <.<( |
| 00:52.14 | DrodoEmpire | *) |
| 00:52.14 | Monet_2 | Charles_Murray: Joke. |
| 00:52.31 | Tybusen | I'd want to say somewhere between those two |
| 00:52.40 | DrodoEmpire | Interesting |
| 00:52.58 | Tybusen | US and Philippines use the American system, I think Canada and Mexico both follow more European-style parliamentary |
| 00:53.11 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah Canada has a Parliamentary Democracy |
| 00:53.20 | DrodoEmpire | Very closely related to the UK system |
| 00:53.47 | Charles_Murray | Sporewiki France is an amalgam of a bunch of different things shoved together, essentially an evolution of French-style semi-presidential democracy >.< |
| 00:54.17 | Tybusen | Actually Mexico's system is a little bit between American and European |
| 00:54.41 | Tybusen | There's part of the legislature that is elected directly by citizens, then another part is proportional representation |
| 00:54.50 | Monet_2 | Charles_Murray: My joke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TFx9u1t1LY |
| 00:55.03 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 00:56.22 | Tybusen | I think Mexico's mixed-member proportional representation could be a happy medium between US direct elections and European proportional representation |
| 00:56.45 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah quite possibly |
| 00:56.56 | DrodoEmpire | I wonder if any political families would still exist |
| 00:57.05 | DrodoEmpire | The Clintons, Trudeaus, etc. |
| 00:57.06 | Tybusen | TBH I've given more thought to the EAC political system as opposed to POTATO's |
| 00:57.13 | Tybusen | I'd imagine they still exist |
| 00:57.49 | Technobliterator | URO doesn't need political families, it has the Leaders |
| 00:57.56 | Tybusen | I think it's to be expected with a large population that you'd have at least one prominent family in politics |
| 00:58.54 | DrodoEmpire | Tech: How do you mean? Would there not be some families or cliques that become politically powerful? |
| 00:59.37 | DrodoEmpire | I mean, such a thing is basically institutionalised with the Drodo in the form of an aristocracy- which is legally and culturally enforced |
| 01:00.32 | Tybusen | I think with how young URO currently is, I don't think there's been any time for prominent political families to emerge besides the old UNOL |
| 01:00.41 | Technobliterator | The old UNOL are the Leaders |
| 01:00.54 | Technobliterator | They're basically immortal and will exist forever and retain ownership of the whole nation |
| 01:01.05 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 01:01.08 | Technobliterator | but they have no power unless they run for office |
| 01:01.13 | Technobliterator | so imagine like the Saudi princes |
| 01:01.19 | Technobliterator | except a democracy exists |
| 01:01.48 | Tybusen | They're figureheads at this point, is what you're saying |
| 01:01.50 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah in the meantime the Drodo, while the nation itself is only like 200 years old is a direct continuation of an otherwise extremely ancient civilisation |
| 01:02.13 | DrodoEmpire | Many aristocratic families, clans in general, are centuries or millenia old |
| 01:02.20 | Technobliterator | Figureheads who collect andasium (aka oil) money |
| 01:02.36 | Technobliterator | and one of them is president |
| 01:04.18 | DrodoEmpire | Also |
| 01:04.33 | DrodoEmpire | In the mirror universe, the Roman Empire apparently still exists? o.O |
| 01:05.08 | DrodoEmpire | I mean... I have no idea how- its literally a historical impossibility for the Empire to've just continued to survive uninterrupted from the time of Trajan forward |
| 01:05.28 | DrodoEmpire | Its *possible* that the Empire was reformed after Justinian's conquests |
| 01:05.31 | Tybusen | It could be a revival |
| 01:05.43 | DrodoEmpire | And I mean yeah it could've been a revival but that's also highly unlikely |
| 01:05.55 | Monet_2 | Well it is using a slightly different batter to the original empire. |
| 01:05.56 | Charles_Murray | Uh |
| 01:06.00 | NeonPanda | I'm curious as to what makes you say it's impossible for the Empire to have been continued |
| 01:06.07 | Charles_Murray | Given just how many revivals there were xD |
| 01:06.24 | Charles_Murray | Basically every European nation which called itself an Empire was in some way channeling the Romans |
| 01:06.43 | DrodoEmpire | But this is a nation literally claiming itself to be Rome |
| 01:06.48 | DrodoEmpire | NeonPanda: The civil wars of the... Third and Fourth century I believe crippled Rome |
| 01:07.06 | Tybusen | Actually lots of countries claimed to be Rome, or its successor at least |
| 01:07.08 | NeonPanda | well yes, but we're talking about an alternate timeline in which these events need not have happened |
| 01:07.19 | Monet_2 | Maybe in the mirror universe Mussolini wasn't incompetent and a generally effective president of Italy? |
| 01:07.20 | NeonPanda | in THIS timeline sure, practically impossible for it to hold together |
| 01:07.20 | DrodoEmpire | Christianity destablised Rome some, hurting an already divided nation |
| 01:07.22 | Tybusen | Byzantium, Russia, and Austria all claimed to be Rome's successor |
| 01:07.42 | DrodoEmpire | Do you not think I know this? :p |
| 01:07.49 | DrodoEmpire | This seems far more literal though |
| 01:07.57 | NeonPanda | I know you know this, just saying, you silly :P |
| 01:08.19 | DrodoEmpire | Barbarian migrants and the Huns also didn't help |
| 01:08.35 | Tybusen | It's possible that this is one of those successor states but decided to strictly continue calling themselves Romans |
| 01:08.37 | Monet_2 | Thing is this is a mirror universe where (best not to explain how) everyone who was nice and decent is now nasty. |
| 01:09.09 | DrodoEmpire | Tybusen: yeah possibly |
| 01:09.10 | Tybusen | It's like how every Chinese empire still referred to themselves as Chinese despite having differences in time, culture, and structure |
| 01:09.38 | Tybusen | PRC China is very different from Shang China but they're still both China |
| 01:09.53 | DrodoEmpire | Right, yeah, I know |
| 01:10.09 | Monet_2 | This roman empire might not be crucifying people on the arterial highway into Italy. |
| 01:10.09 | DrodoEmpire | Which is why I'm betting on a reformation of some sort |
| 01:10.47 | Tybusen | It's a mirror universe though, I think it relies on the principle of not trying to analyze its history too hard |
| 01:10.59 | DrodoEmpire | ...At the same time this mirror Roman's borders seem startlingly-similar to the original >.< |
| 01:11.14 | DrodoEmpire | Actually I'd think that that's the *exact point* or a mirror universe |
| 01:11.26 | DrodoEmpire | How the changing of one or a handful of factors would affect the series of events |
| 01:11.32 | NeonPanda | tbh, like half of the early stuff in hte fictionverse (and a fair bit of it still today) relied on not analysing everything too hard |
| 01:11.39 | DrodoEmpire | So analysing the history is the entire point |
| 01:11.43 | DrodoEmpire | To an extent |
| 01:11.56 | Tybusen | That's alternate history, this mirror universe is more about the sci-fi concept |
| 01:12.06 | Tybusen | Of everything being flipped pretty much |
| 01:12.23 | DrodoEmpire | I know |
| 01:12.26 | Hachiman | And the selves from the mirror universe and the main universe cannot meet |
| 01:12.29 | DrodoEmpire | That's still a form of alternate history |
| 01:12.29 | Hachiman | Otherwise they aspolde |
| 01:12.34 | Hachiman | asplode* |
| 01:12.58 | DrodoEmpire | The variable(s) changed being "if everybody/thing that's good was bad and vice versa, what would happen?" |
| 01:13.18 | Monet_2 | AN accurate representation is hard to say. |
| 01:13.22 | DrodoEmpire | Of course |
| 01:13.29 | Monet_2 | Impossible perhaps |
| 01:13.33 | DrodoEmpire | But I still find it interesting to ask these questions |
| 01:13.37 | Tybusen | I think the Mirror Universe was made without a lot of consideration on going in depth on the history |
| 01:13.53 | Tybusen | A lot of it is the mirrored characters and not a lot of the mirrored history |
| 01:13.58 | DrodoEmpire | Sure |
| 01:13.59 | Monet_2 | What if Colombus wasn't a callous, racist, enslaving robber baron. |
| 01:14.02 | DrodoEmpire | But that's no excuse :p |
| 01:14.13 | Tybusen | No excuse, but something to keep in mind |
| 01:14.17 | DrodoEmpire | I'm still allowed to lookat this, maybe even write up an explanation |
| 01:14.26 | Tybusen | Right, of course |
| 01:14.34 | Hachiman | What if it was the Native Americans who sailed and discovered Europe |
| 01:14.41 | DrodoEmpire | Interesting question |
| 01:14.49 | DrodoEmpire | But given the circumstances, not possible |
| 01:15.00 | DrodoEmpire | Geography was not kind to the native americans, while it was to Eurasia |
| 01:15.17 | Tybusen | "The Iroquois have settled the new city of Canadiguia Lake on the Iberian Peninsula." |
| 01:15.24 | Wormy_ | You can't think about what could have extended the life of the Roman Empire without thinking about what else would have to change, in a convincing way |
| 01:15.34 | DrodoEmpire | I know |
| 01:15.39 | Wormy_ | Like the movements of other peoples |
| 01:15.41 | NeonPanda | I think the point Tybusen is getting at is that if you look for consistency you're not going to find it, because it wasn't a consideration in creating the universe |
| 01:16.05 | DrodoEmpire | Maybe not, but I can still try to reconcile these things |
| 01:16.05 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 01:16.10 | Hachiman | Can't find something that's not there |
| 01:16.17 | DrodoEmpire | I don't think that's a very satisfactory answer :p |
| 01:16.25 | Tybusen | Right, it's fine to want to make consistency where there is none, I'm just saying that you won't find much pre-existing consistency to work with |
| 01:16.51 | Monet_2 | The mirror universe was more about the characters than the history. |
| 01:16.55 | DrodoEmpire | Right, which is a shame, but I don't much care >.< I'm allowed to theorise |
| 01:17.13 | DrodoEmpire | And if we ever decide to pick it back up maybe help in writing a bit more consistency in |
| 01:17.29 | Tybusen | Right yeah |
| 01:17.38 | Tybusen | The Mirror Universe never really managed to take off all that well |
| 01:18.30 | Monet_2 | I mean the empire of Dranvamus, despite its age, is more like the right-hand power to the Hegemony's emperor - a Libertus. |
| 01:19.55 | Tybusen | The TIAF turned into a guerrilla resistance group that hates everyone that might be associated with the Hegemony |
| 01:20.36 | Monet_2 | I tried explaining that historical discrepancy with the Draconid patriarchs being traditional advisors to the Hegemon. |
| 01:22.50 | Hachiman | I know that scientifically that there would be near infinite universes with Hachiman being an entity ascended by Dream Energy, but I like to think that narrative-wise, he's the only Hachi of his kind in the multiverse |
| 01:23.28 | Hachiman | Like, there may be infinite Hachis, but only one Hachi has ever gotten as far as the main universe one and exists in that state |
| 01:23.59 | Wormy_ | If its any consolation, the quantum multiverse may be infinite, but only has finite differences. |
| 01:24.07 | Monet_2 | Perhaps Mirror Hachi is an assassin for hire. |
| 01:24.41 | Wormy_ | So there would be a very large number of Hachis doing one thing, and an even larger number of Hachis that did something-else and some universes with no Hachi at all |
| 01:24.59 | NeonPanda | also only universe where Hachi got laid, clear correlation |
| 01:25.05 | Hachiman | hur |
| 01:25.18 | Hachiman | I think I remember the first time that Hachi got laid was actually IN the Mirror Universe |
| 01:25.33 | Tybusen | The quantum multiverse is a sad, lonely realm with no places to stick wiener in |
| 01:25.47 | Hachiman | Like, somehow him and a group of characters ended up there through god bullshittery and he ended up bedding the Mirror Iovera |
| 01:26.13 | Hachiman | And then Hachi came back and proceeds to never get laid again |
| 01:26.14 | NeonPanda | well rabbits and mice aren't exactly that far away from each other on the evolutionary tree, so it checks out |
| 01:26.14 | Tybusen | Quantum Hachis continue to drift through the endless abyss, in desperate search of wiener fuel |
| 01:27.00 | Monet_2 | So not only did he get laid, the woman he laid with is completely off casual sex i nhis home universe. |
| 01:27.01 | Hachiman | hur |
| 01:27.17 | NeonPanda | he managed to sleep with a Fordanta once, but that's not as much of an achievement comparatively |
| 01:27.30 | Hachiman | Aye considering how Fordanta treat that kinda thing |
| 01:27.32 | Tybusen | I wonder if that could become a plot line, Hachis from other universes hear about how Prime Hachi got laid, get jealous and try to invade the Prime Universe to knock him down a peg |
| 01:27.40 | Hachiman | hur |
| 01:27.43 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 01:27.44 | NeonPanda | ^ would pay money make pls |
| 01:27.46 | NeonPanda | not really but still |
| 01:27.48 | NeonPanda | make |
| 01:28.17 | Hachiman | Hachi vs. The Hachiworld |
| 01:28.36 | DrodoEmpire | So apparently on some GMod RP servers there're working radios now |
| 01:28.43 | DrodoEmpire | Ohh the bullshit I could spew |
| 01:28.46 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 01:28.46 | NeonPanda | I think I made a joke once about Hel' missing debriefings with the rest of Andromeda's military because he was off "working off stress" |
| 01:28.47 | Monet_2 | One thought looking about is mirror Hachi is inducted into mirro Uriel's killsquad. |
| 01:28.56 | NeonPanda | DrodoEmpire: for all of two seconds before you get kicked from the radio channel :P |
| 01:29.05 | DrodoEmpire | Nah |
| 01:29.33 | Hachiman | I mean, there are universes where Hachi fell to the Corruptus |
| 01:29.35 | Monet_2 | Mirror Hachi gets a nice apartment, top-end cybernetics and kills anyone the patriarch points at. |
| 01:29.48 | DrodoEmpire | Basically its a microphone you own, you speak in to it, and radios you can carry and place anywhere will project that like speakers |
| 01:30.00 | NeonPanda | ooohhh that's something different |
| 01:30.10 | DrodoEmpire | So I could just be in an undisclosed location, place radios in public areas, and incite a revolt or something |
| 01:30.24 | DrodoEmpire | Or talk about the (((Jewish))) conspiracy |
| 01:30.31 | NeonPanda | server I'm on has a radio system that basically functions as restricted VOIP for squads |
| 01:30.35 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 01:31.10 | NeonPanda | speaking of, I managed to embarrass several people much higher ranked than me yesterday by way of being rather good at shooting |
| 01:31.29 | DrodoEmpire | Actually tbh a good strat might even be to start a rebel/terrorist cell but own a radio station to keep disseminating propaganda |
| 01:31.31 | NeonPanda | second highest kill count (not counting jedi), and I was essentially a raw recruit |
| 01:31.37 | DrodoEmpire | Oh wow |
| 01:32.16 | NeonPanda | it was especially lovely because some hot shit Lieutenant was berating me before, after the event he found out that his CO is my friend :P |
| 01:32.18 | DrodoEmpire | (Plus I've done things in the past that've skirted/broke the rules in far worse ways- including running an entire server as an all-powerful theocrat) |
| 01:32.43 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 01:32.55 | Monet_2 | goodnight |
| 01:32.58 | NeonPanda | from what I hear he was doing crouch-laps of the pool for about fifteen minutes with Bly constantly reminding him that he got out-shot by a shiny |
| 01:33.06 | DrodoEmpire | lul |
| 01:34.55 | NeonPanda | oh and people talked down to the Advisor (read: event manager) because he insisted on waiting five minutes for someone to set up a targeting beacon, rather than just locking on to the comms signal of a trooper standing on top of the target |
| 01:35.04 | Wormy_ | I'm thinking of hooking up KIlnok and http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Kz%27nt |
| 01:35.26 | NeonPanda | he was like "there's no point in you sacrificing yourself you idiot" and everyone else was like "we're dying out here you idiot, just do it!" |
| 01:35.45 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 01:36.29 | Hachiman | Monet_2: Goodnight |
| 01:36.52 | DrodoEmpire | Oh I *also* remember another time where I was basically a Lieutenant in a huge country on a DarkRP server, called the "Order of the Anthonies" (we were all named Anthony [number]- I was "Anthony 1453") |
| 01:37.31 | DrodoEmpire | There was like two dozen of us and we cordoned off an entire part of the map with really sophistcated gatehouses- and continued to expand out territory with annexations XD |
| 01:37.46 | DrodoEmpire | The admins actually didn't know what to do |
| 01:37.50 | NeonPanda | heh nice |
| 01:38.55 | DrodoEmpire | It was hardly a well-oiled machine, but at our height we owned half the map, were militarily unstoppable and had a rock-solid economy based on dealing meth :p |
| 01:39.19 | DrodoEmpire | We did constant raids on rival gangs and fought from the battlements with assault rifles and shit |
| 01:39.28 | DrodoEmpire | It was hilariously fun |
| 01:39.41 | NeonPanda | the only time the event staff didn't know what to do was when the Engineering Corps decided we'd had enough of people being useless (we were running the FOB, our defence regiment ran off to the front lines) so we locked the Advisor in a ray shielded box and went around the back |
| 01:40.00 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 01:40.01 | NeonPanda | literally built a bridge over the front lines, ran up to the enemy command point and took it over |
| 01:40.42 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah Anthonistan was never quite that organised >.< We just relied on warbands of people with kalashnikovs and sniper rifles to get shit done |
| 01:40.46 | NeonPanda | turns out five people who can A) make cover literally appear out of thin air, B) drop extra ammo and meds on demand and C) carry one of the better close-range infantry weapons in the game, is pretty potent |
| 01:41.02 | DrodoEmpire | Sounds OP even <.< |
| 01:41.30 | NeonPanda | we did kinda break the rules a little, but the only people who know how engineers actually work are engineers, and we didn't tell :P |
| 01:41.39 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 01:42.21 | NeonPanda | actually I'll say bend not break, because we're only allowed two cover pieces or one cover piece and one supply each, but with five people that's overkill |
| 01:42.31 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:43.18 | NeonPanda | the closest thing we did to breaking the rules was the bridge, which we RP'ed by "collapsing" a water tower for resources |
| 01:43.40 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 01:43.55 | NeonPanda | eventually the event staff just decided to run with it because they had no better ideas |
| 01:51.16 | DrodoEmpire | So yeah |
| 01:51.28 | DrodoEmpire | I'ma start another fiction semi-soon |
| 01:51.35 | DrodoEmpire | *Fiction story, that is |
| 01:52.04 | DrodoEmpire | Its basically gonna be an introductory fiction for the Chalag Khanate |
| 01:54.15 | Tybusen | "Goddam charags! stop tearin down my corony warr!" |
| 01:55.30 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 01:56.00 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah a lot of its gonna be them smashing through criminal syndicates |
| 01:56.22 | DrodoEmpire | But I figured I could probably include other characters, maybe as mercenaries/emissaries for either side |
| 01:56.38 | DrodoEmpire | (Siding with either the Chalag or the Oltauris) |
| 01:59.13 | DrodoEmpire | So I mean yeah anyone's free to ask about for a collab |
| 02:01.35 | NeonPanda | maybe an ISF splinter fleet |
| 02:03.37 | DrodoEmpire | ISF? |
| 02:03.43 | DrodoEmpire | Not good with acronyms >.< |
| 02:03.58 | NeonPanda | the Iron Systems Federation, which now that I think of it I changed their name a while ago so that one doesn't apply anymore |
| 02:04.19 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 02:04.21 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah perhaps |
| 02:04.29 | DrodoEmpire | We can definitely make plans |
| 02:04.56 | DrodoEmpire | I figure the Chalag invasion may be a bit of a boon for out-of-work mercs- its a conflict bound to last a little while in a lawless sector of space |
| 02:05.28 | DrodoEmpire | And the Chalag are hardly good guys- better maybe, but not above using mercenaries |
| 02:05.53 | DrodoEmpire | They also have a pretty harsh, swift brand of justice :p |
| 02:06.16 | NeonPanda | they basically stick their nose into as much as physically possible in the search of raw data, so it's entirely possible a splinter fleet would hire out some of their forces to open up new avenues of investigation |
| 02:06.34 | DrodoEmpire | Huh... |
| 02:06.37 | NeonPanda | if nothing else they'd get an opportunity to field-test some new weaponry, which is valuable in and of itself |
| 02:08.21 | DrodoEmpire | Ah, cool |
| 02:09.19 | NeonPanda | the Iron Circle is what they're called now, think a mix of the Brotherhood of Steel and the Adeptus Mechanicus, if those names mean anything to you |
| 02:09.42 | DrodoEmpire | They do, thanks :p |
| 02:10.20 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway, interesting |
| 02:10.55 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah we could probably collab then- this'd be with me and Tech as well |
| 02:12.15 | NeonPanda | I have no issues with this |
| 02:12.23 | DrodoEmpire | Cool cool |
| 02:13.33 | NeonPanda | and of course it being a splinter fleet avoids the obvious question of how does X deal with literal reality-bending technological fuckery |
| 02:15.18 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 02:19.10 | NeonPanda | not too much by way of heavy hitters, mostly disposable combat drones and cybergrunts with the odd pet project as far as combat options go |
| 02:19.43 | DrodoEmpire | That'd be useful |
| 02:20.03 | DrodoEmpire | Anything that takes the strain off of a mixed space fleet and core of cavalry |
| 02:25.50 | DrodoEmpire | Well, yeah |
| 02:26.47 | DrodoEmpire | Basically the Chalag military is a third Urdesi horsemen, another half being levies of subject species forming up the infantry/support, and then the rest being mercenaries for extra elite troops in every category and to plug-up gaps |
| 02:27.40 | NeonPanda | as far as space power goes, depending on the scale it'd be something along the lines of a heavy/supercarrier with escorts |
| 02:27.55 | DrodoEmpire | So in a single battle, you might see Urdesi Drodo lancers fighting alongside infantry of mixed Ottzelloan species with French expats flying air support |
| 02:28.47 | DrodoEmpire | Cool cool |
| 02:31.29 | NeonPanda | anyway, now off to do stuff |
| 02:31.36 | DrodoEmpire | kk |
| 02:56.36 | DrodoEmpire | test |
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| 11:10.43 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 11:13.04 | Ghelae | Wormy_: I realised I never commented on your idea of having a "Shawyer drive" in the fictionverse. Perhaps my biggest problem with it is that, even if the emdrive turns out to work as hoped, Shawyer's own explanation for it is blatantly wrong. |
| 11:14.08 | Ghelae | I wouldn't want to name an engine after somebody who does that. |
| 11:14.59 | Wormy_ | I thought that might be one rejection, but some scientific discoveries are named after people who made mistakes, I'm pretty sure of that |
| 11:15.35 | Wormy_ | And Shaywer |
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| 11:16.10 | Ghelae | Oh, absolutely. Many of the pioneers of thermodynamics, for example, worked on the basis that heat was a fluid. However, their maths was right regardless. |
| 11:16.11 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 11:16.31 | Ghelae | If Shawyer's equations accurately describe the emdrive, I'll be very surprised. |
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| 11:17.06 | Xho | Hi |
| 11:17.06 | Ghelae | I suppose it could still be named after him if his basic design still turns out to be the optimum, however. |
| 11:17.22 | Wormy_ | And Shawyer might still have set in motion the discovery of EM drives in the time period |
| 11:21.24 | Ghelae | "Cannae drive" appears to be a name that already exists, unlike "Shawyer drive", although the designs are a little different. |
| 11:22.05 | Wormy_ | Shawyer-Cannae drive :P |
| 11:22.23 | Xho | Sounds like it's Scottish for "Shawyer can't drive" |
| 11:23.12 | Wormy_ | Even better reason to choose it |
| 11:23.38 | Wormy_ | His maths were wrong, he didn't drive it properly, others took over |
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| 11:29.09 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 11:29.10 | Ghelae | Hi |
| 11:31.27 | Xho | http://cgsoufiane.deviantart.com/art/eagle-head-539707129 Randomly found this on DA, I could imagine Orichalcum Elves wearing headgear like that |
| 11:31.42 | Xho | Hi as well |
| 11:40.22 | Monet | Fancy |
| 11:40.24 | Monet | Hi |
| 11:40.57 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Vetarion_Virios Hachi and I have been doing some rethinking. |
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| 11:55.01 | Xho | Kithworto - fukn kid needs to sit on the naughty step |
| 12:08.20 | Monet | Vet - You can try. |
| 12:16.06 | Xho | Kithworto - https://cdn.meme.am/images/300x/5165573.jpg |
| 12:17.18 | Monet | We worked out Vet gets very dangerous in his Solar State. Maybe not a level to threaten Kithworto. |
| 12:18.05 | Xho | Kithworto's usually a bad example to compare anyone to considering he's sub-Xhodocto level |
| 12:18.30 | Xho | Hez'Kalka is a better comparison |
| 12:18.41 | Hachiman | Hez is weaker than Kithworto? |
| 12:19.01 | Monet | Well Kith is part- Xi'Arazulha |
| 12:19.17 | Hachiman | I thought Hez'Kalka would have been jacked up on Chaos or something |
| 12:20.09 | Xho | Hez'Kalka isn't an Ultraterrestrial or an Essential |
| 12:20.15 | Xho | Kithworto's a jacked up Essential |
| 12:20.58 | Xho | Hez is powerful but Kithworto is on another dimension entirely |
| 12:21.04 | Xho | Which is why he isn't in fiction now |
| 12:21.46 | Monet | Vet in his solar state it's hard to put a solid estimate as it depends on how much sun power he's collected. But at higher amounts we reckon Hachi might have some difficulty against him. |
| 12:22.02 | Xho | Shu - popcorn pls |
| 12:22.40 | Xho | What's to become of the Draconizane now that Kolossus is dead |
| 12:23.02 | Xho | inb4 needs xhodocto intervention |
| 12:23.03 | Monet | Red Crusade is partially answering that. |
| 12:23.18 | Hachiman | Well, Kordan has become a recluse |
| 12:23.33 | Xho | Might nominate Red Crusade for fiction reading day because it's only something I've passed over |
| 12:24.17 | Monet | Kordan's a recluse an Kragh and Yarda have set their eyes on controlling Frenzy Space. |
| 12:24.32 | Xho | Kithworto - what did i fucking tell you all |
| 12:24.43 | Monet | While Kragh schemes to overthrow his father. |
| 12:25.03 | Hachiman | Also, I'm wondering if Hachi founding or suggesting founding a Fictionverse answer to the Justice League / Avengers would work |
| 12:26.03 | Xho | seems to work |
| 12:26.13 | Xho | So Kordan has had visits from Kithworto and Thea |
| 12:26.19 | Xho | this guy needs proper convincng |
| 12:26.21 | Xho | convincing |
| 12:26.53 | Xho | Then again Thea is benevolent and Kithworto is neutral at best |
| 12:27.14 | Monet | Hachiman: There might be some question as to what they can do that nations can't now the Dominion is less in the picture. |
| 12:27.25 | Hachiman | True |
| 12:28.14 | Xho | I'll make characters for this alliance of supa-heeros |
| 12:28.31 | Xho | Makes me wonder whether Kithworto has had other students in his time past Tantum |
| 12:29.12 | Monet | Hachiman: Still, Elith'Etreiar could be part of the group. |
| 12:29.42 | Monet | Really need to get him into stories. He must be in his 20s by now. |
| 12:30.05 | Hachiman | Well, Hachi's 40 by 2817, the current Fictionverse date |
| 12:30.17 | Monet | Wow. |
| 12:30.42 | Monet | Shit I knew he was maturing, didn't realise he's hit his 40s already. |
| 12:30.49 | Xho | Santorakh - u kno fantasyverse wise that makes u old af |
| 12:31.04 | Hachiman | He became immortal around his early-mid 20s |
| 12:32.06 | Monet | 2817 I think Etreiar's in his mid-20s. |
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| 12:35.16 | Xho | Running Fallout 4 on Ultra |
| 12:35.17 | Xho | feels gud |
| 12:35.40 | Hachiman | Monet: Does Etreiar have a page? |
| 12:36.31 | Monet | Hachiman: No. All we have is the day of his birth if you need reference. |
| 12:36.48 | Hachiman | Damn |
| 12:37.35 | Monet | Odd thing is I have a lot planned out for who he is I just haven't gotten round to making a page |
| 12:38.25 | Tek0516 | So today I'm either done university at 11:30 or 5:30 and I have no idea which. >.> |
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| 12:38.42 | Monet | Hi |
| 12:39.41 | Monet | OluapPLayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Vetarion_Virios we added more to shitty kid. |
| 12:40.04 | OluapPlayer | I noticed last night |
| 12:41.30 | Monet | His comment on Alessa b foreshadowing. |
| 12:43.01 | Xho | ups |
| 12:43.05 | Monet | And we worked out he could be more dangerous than Kordan. |
| 12:43.10 | Xho | http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/481145638040053535/AEF3F1D7BC2621916BA9C4878F0220D941BE1E3B/ Fallout 4 on 4K Ultra settings |
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| 12:44.07 | Hachiman | Man those crappy roof textures |
| 12:45.29 | OluapPlayer | Better than when I played where everything looked like it was colored by crayon |
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| 12:45.44 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 12:45.51 | Ghel | Hi |
| 12:46.37 | Monet | hi |
| 12:47.19 | Monet | bbs. |
| 12:50.55 | Hachiman | Xho: I can only imagine Nijusi's face when his fighting theatre things goes tits up due to Essentials and other demigods across the Gigaquadrant competing |
| 12:51.01 | Hachiman | *thing |
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| 12:57.11 | Hachiman | Fuck |
| 13:03.38 | Xho | Hachiman: Well Tuuros does have essence users |
| 13:03.50 | Hachiman | True |
| 13:05.45 | Hachiman | Also I'm guessing that Shock Energy is now an outdated concept |
| 13:05.59 | OluapPlayer | Never heard of |
| 13:06.05 | OluapPlayer | So probably yes |
| 13:07.16 | Ghel | There aren't many references to it on the wiki. |
| 13:08.47 | Ghel | If there are references to pairs of opposite Essences colliding that make it unambiguous that no "Shock Energy" could have formed, that might be enough to decanonise it. |
| 13:09.18 | Ghel | I suspect Dream Energy and Entropic Energy being used against each other are the most likely place for that to have happened. |
| 13:09.47 | OluapPlayer | Dream and Entropic colliding leads to MAD |
| 13:10.18 | Ghel | IIRC that was roughly the original idea behind Shock Energy. |
| 13:10.22 | OluapPlayer | That's been the case since they were created |
| 13:10.32 | Hachiman | But, Shu'ytrogarva used Dream + Entropic energies |
| 13:10.39 | OluapPlayer | It doesn't make any new kind of energy, they just destroy each other |
| 13:10.54 | OluapPlayer | Are you ignoring the entire plot reason for that? |
| 13:11.12 | Hachiman | Well, no |
| 13:11.50 | OluapPlayer | Shu'ytro got dream powers after he consumed the soul of the Essential God of dream energy |
| 13:11.51 | Ghel | Is this destructive explosive? That is, there's a release of energy (in the physical sense), even if not essence. |
| 13:11.58 | OluapPlayer | It was an isolated place |
| 13:12.01 | Ghel | destruction* |
| 13:12.09 | OluapPlayer | isolated case* |
| 13:12.29 | OluapPlayer | Probably not explosive |
| 13:12.44 | OluapPlayer | More like they cancel each other |
| 13:13.20 | OluapPlayer | Assuming the quantity of essence used is equal. If you got more entropic than dream, entropic will overwhelm dream and persist |
| 13:13.28 | Ghel | So just a silent, calm, vanishing of the two essences? |
| 13:13.56 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
| 13:14.57 | Ghel | That's exactly not Shock Energy, then. |
| 13:15.27 | OluapPlayer | The idea of two opposite essences combining into something completely different sounds nonsensical to me |
| 13:15.46 | OluapPlayer | That's like combining water and oil to get soda |
| 13:15.50 | Ghel | I think the original idea was like matter + antimatter -> radiation. |
| 13:16.40 | OluapPlayer | Even if the essences exploded on contact, they would be dream/entropic explosions, not "shock" |
| 13:16.47 | Hachiman | It's not really a completely different thing; it'd be comparable to how energy is produced from the reaction of matter and antimatter |
| 13:19.21 | Ghel | There are references to Shock Energy on a few pages (most by inactive users, one by someone who doesn't seem to have been part of the fictionverse anyway), but as for actual stories, the only one Google can find is at the bottom of http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Light_and_Dark by Wormy_ |
| 13:20.31 | OluapPlayer | So yeah I don't think this is canon, nor do we need a whole new essence for something like this |
| 13:20.51 | Hachiman | It's not a "whole new Essence" |
| 13:20.53 | OluapPlayer | Our current essence list is good and broad enough |
| 13:21.06 | OluapPlayer | It is when it's not used by anyone |
| 13:21.24 | Hachiman | It's just a term used for energy that is released when two opposing Essences are used in tandem or react with one another |
| 13:21.38 | Hachiman | That's how I see it anyhow |
| 13:21.59 | OluapPlayer | We've had characters with dual essence for years and this was never necessary to make them work |
| 13:22.20 | OluapPlayer | brb |
| 13:22.39 | Ghel | The idea is like the conflicting parts of opposing Essences cancel out leaving the remaining Essence-ness on its own, while in your description of Dream vs. Entropic there's no remaining Essence-ness and everything cancels out. |
| 13:24.25 | Ghel | It could also work by simple conservation of energy, so the energy within the Essences are released as e.g. heat, which would make it a sort of "shock energy" that isn't actually anything to do with Essence. |
| 13:26.20 | Ghel | But yes, outside of Light and Dark, as is currently written, there seems to be no reason for Shock Energy to exist. |
| 13:29.17 | Ghel | And that story also features Xhodocto piloting star destroyers and being scared of Bo Ramik. |
| 13:30.39 | Hachiman | hur |
| 13:35.34 | OluapPlayer | Xhodocto - i hate cockroaches ew |
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| 13:40.04 | Monet | Hi |
| 13:44.48 | Ghel | Hi |
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| 14:11.55 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 14:12.11 | Hachiman | Imagine a Fantasyverse equivalent to Scotland's Sawney Bean |
| 14:12.46 | OluapPlayer | wat dat |
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| 14:14.10 | Monet | hi |
| 14:14.51 | Hachiman | He was a Scotsman who supposedly married a witch and after working as a highwayman for sometime, retreated into the wilderness and away from society where he formed his own inbred clan consisting of around 40+ members - 14 children and 32 grandchildren |
| 14:15.10 | Hachiman | And they became notoriously infamous for hunting people at night and performing mass cannibalism |
| 14:15.47 | OluapPlayer | That's almost a Dwarf Fortress night troll |
| 14:16.18 | OluapPlayer | It's just missing a randomized appearance hur |
| 14:18.39 | Hachiman | Hi Wormy |
| 14:18.46 | Hachiman | We were just talking about Sawney Bean |
| 14:19.10 | Wormy_ | is reminded of his yterruible past fiction writing |
| 14:19.17 | Wormy_ | (Light and Dark) |
| 14:19.31 | Wormy_ | my response to the earlier discussion |
| 14:19.42 | Wormy_ | Who's Sawney Bean? |
| 14:19.58 | OluapPlayer | Hachi just explained above |
| 14:20.16 | Wormy_ | Is this Samurai Jack? |
| 14:20.38 | OluapPlayer | lern to reed |
| 14:21.16 | Wormy_ | I have no context, all I have is a Scotsman, a name, and Dwarf Fortress |
| 14:21.39 | OluapPlayer | Well considering Hachi's tone i assume it's a Scottish legend |
| 14:22.01 | OluapPlayer | I was comparing it to Dwarf Fortress because it has a creature with a very similar description |
| 14:22.28 | Hachiman | Wormy_: He was a Scotsman who supposedly married a witch and after working as a highwayman for sometime, retreated into the wilderness and away from society where he formed his own inbred clan consisting of around 40+ members - 14 children and 32 grandchildren |
| 14:22.32 | Hachiman | And they became notoriously infamous for hunting people at night and performing mass cannibalism |
| 14:23.01 | OluapPlayer | That doesn't answer the question, is it a Scottish legend or what? |
| 14:23.04 | Wormy_ | Ohh, so we're talking about a historical figure |
| 14:23.11 | Hachiman | Scottish semi-historical figure |
| 14:23.16 | Wormy_ | Interesting |
| 14:23.30 | OluapPlayer | Isn't Wormy a scot? he should know about this hur |
| 14:23.36 | Wormy_ | Nope |
| 14:23.43 | Hachiman | No he's a Northern Briton |
| 14:23.53 | OluapPlayer | Huh, could swear you said you were scottish before |
| 14:24.04 | Wormy_ | I have Northern English, and one side of my family comes from Ireland |
| 14:24.12 | Hachiman | When I say semi-historical, it's unconfirmed as to whether he existed and if he did, whether he killed and ate all those people or had a clan that large |
| 14:24.13 | Wormy_ | There may be Scottish in there, but I don't know |
| 14:24.18 | Hachiman | The history is murky |
| 14:24.53 | Wormy_ | Yeah, the Scotttish highlands probably wasn't as good at keeping records |
| 14:25.06 | Hachiman | Him and his clan was reported to have killed and eaten 1,000~ people |
| 14:25.44 | OluapPlayer | http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Night_troll for context this is what I was comparing the story to |
| 14:26.14 | Hachiman | And they would do this thing where they would either pickle leftover body parts or throw them into the sea where they would then proceed to wash up on the Scottish coast |
| 14:26.33 | Hachiman | Feet, hands, legs, arms, heads, etc |
| 14:27.36 | Hachiman | I was just saying, imagine if we had a figure like that in the Fantasyverse |
| 14:28.04 | OluapPlayer | It would fit a type of evil fair folk |
| 14:28.09 | OluapPlayer | Which night trolls are supposed to be |
| 14:28.21 | Hachiman | Cannibalistic fae |
| 14:28.44 | Hachiman | Wouldn't that make them Unseelie? |
| 14:28.52 | Hachiman | Which we already have |
| 14:29.17 | OluapPlayer | Unseelie have no characterization beyond "fairy that worships Vargash" |
| 14:34.22 | OluapPlayer | I wanted to have an equivalent of forgotten beasts in Koldenwelt, but then I realized Xho's chimera kind already fit that niche |
| 14:34.53 | Hachiman | Hm |
| 14:35.04 | Hachiman | You just make them not Void-related hur |
| 14:35.45 | OluapPlayer | But I wanted them to be Void-related |
| 14:35.52 | OluapPlayer | Vargash-related most specifically |
| 14:36.20 | Hachiman | Vargash could have his own subset of Chimera |
| 14:36.29 | Hachiman | Or an equivalent to them |
| 14:36.37 | OluapPlayer | That'd just be copying Xho's fiction though |
| 14:36.45 | OluapPlayer | I'm not okay with doing that |
| 14:37.02 | Hachiman | We have multiple kinds of elves, no reason we can't have multiple kinds of randomized monstrous entities |
| 14:37.32 | OluapPlayer | Ehh |
| 14:37.33 | OluapPlayer | I don't know |
| 14:40.24 | Hachiman | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarasque There are hybrid beasts outside of chimeras |
| 14:42.06 | OluapPlayer | That's got a consistent appearance, the idea of forgotten beasts is they're each unique in appearance |
| 14:42.29 | Hachiman | Chimeras also have a consistent appearance in mythology but the ones in the Fantasyverse look different from each other |
| 14:42.47 | Xho | It's a misnomer |
| 14:42.48 | Xho | sorta |
| 14:42.58 | OluapPlayer | I don't see your point |
| 14:43.09 | Xho | Chimeras are amalgamations of animals, Void Chimeras are kind of the same but taken into a ghoulish context |
| 14:43.18 | OluapPlayer | The idea is, we already have randomized demons |
| 14:47.16 | Xho | make moar den |
| 14:47.24 | OluapPlayer | But why |
| 14:47.32 | OluapPlayer | That'd be just copying what you already did |
| 14:47.45 | Xho | No reason not to other than that and I have no problem with it |
| 14:48.21 | OluapPlayer | aaa |
| 14:48.26 | OluapPlayer | Alright then |
| 14:49.57 | OluapPlayer | Might make night troll expies too while I'm at it |
| 14:51.04 | Xho | Hachiman: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14224758_1191085854290609_4221514550729535412_n.jpg?oh=661a0492ed8560948fac122bb28e96e8&oe=583EB675 oh god |
| 14:55.30 | Hachiman | hur |
| 14:56.01 | Hachiman | I've wanted to work on fae for a while so |
| 14:59.13 | OluapPlayer | Yeah but you want a lot of things and never get them done |
| 14:59.15 | OluapPlayer | so fuk u |
| 15:03.39 | Monet | I wonder if the spawn of Kordan (more specifically the main four) might be classified as mid- or possibly high-tier demigods. |
| 15:05.21 | Monet | Two of them are capable of summoning life and at least three of the four can perform planetary-scale feats with enough concentration. |
| 15:06.09 | Hachiman | I'd say maybe lower-end high-tier |
| 15:06.58 | Hachiman | Also, I'm gonna go ahead and claim ownership for satyrs / fauns and ifrits in the Fantasyverse |
| 15:07.07 | Hachiman | And have them be considered fae things |
| 15:07.45 | OluapPlayer | You can claim all you want, but you need to make them for it to be valid |
| 15:09.47 | OluapPlayer | Also Jepardi already made satyrs |
| 15:09.54 | Monet | I think Kol once made it rain blood on a planet but was that region specific or did the whole planet experience bloody rain? |
| 15:10.07 | Hachiman | Fuck |
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| 15:33.12 | Hachiman | Hi Tree |
| 15:33.47 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 15:35.24 | Tek0516 | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1473344691-20160908.png |
| 15:38.40 | Tek0516 | "North Korea bans sarcasm because Kim Jong-un fears people only agree with him ‘ironically’" http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/north-korea-bans-sarcasm-kim-jong-un-freedom-speech-a7231461.html |
| 15:55.44 | Treebeard | Test |
| 15:57.57 | Monet | Tek0516: There is no limit to what clinically insecure leaders will do to stay feeling like everyone loves them. |
| 16:00.35 | Hachiman | Imperios: https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/12065536_142116342805640_2759355906941438901_n.jpg?oh=24700802463d74fe10b03e938597b12e&oe=58473DE9 |
| 16:00.54 | Hachiman | >tfw your inferiority complex is so inferior you resort to claiming your race is more 'powerful' than others |
| 16:01.15 | Hachiman | *is so intense |
| 16:01.39 | Imperios | Hachiman: >hueman |
| 16:01.41 | Imperios | Hue-man |
| 16:01.45 | Hachiman | hue |
| 16:01.47 | Imperios | So the first humans were Brazilian? |
| 16:01.49 | Tek0516 | Monet: We can only hope the inevitable collapse doesn't kill too many. |
| 16:02.04 | Imperios | >the only woman that possesses all phenotypes |
| 16:02.13 | Imperios | That actually has some basis IRL |
| 16:02.28 | Imperios | The African genotype is MUCH more diverse than that of any other race |
| 16:02.42 | Hachiman | Doesn't mean it has all of them hur |
| 16:02.54 | Imperios | It probably does TBH |
| 16:03.08 | Hachiman | Imp confirmed for Afrocentrism |
| 16:03.17 | Hachiman | he wuz a kang |
| 16:03.54 | Imperios | You remind me |
| 16:04.02 | Imperios | There was that Korean girl I met |
| 16:04.05 | Imperios | Catherine Kan |
| 16:04.11 | Hachiman | Catherine Khan |
| 16:04.11 | Imperios | I need to contact her |
| 16:04.28 | Imperios | "Khan" is another surname hur |
| 16:04.30 | Imperios | Well |
| 16:04.39 | Imperios | Anyway |
| 16:05.10 | Imperios | It's generally true that diversity is strongest in the source of a race, culture, et cetera |
| 16:05.22 | Imperios | Compare British English with American English |
| 16:05.25 | Imperios | For example |
| 16:05.47 | Hachiman | True |
| 16:17.34 | Imperios | GTg bye |
| 16:41.22 | Treebeard | Test |
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| 17:13.47 | Monet | hi |
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| 18:02.52 | Quark8 | Hello. |
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| 18:06.34 | Cyrannian | Hello everyone |
| 18:07.40 | Quark8 | Hello Cyrannman. |
| 18:07.43 | Quark8 | *Cyrannian |
| 18:08.26 | Cyrannian | Hi |
| 18:12.22 | OluapPlayer | ~eat Cyrannian |
| 18:12.23 | infobot | ACTION slurps up all the Cyrannian available |
| 18:12.40 | Cyrannian | ~tickle OluapPlayer |
| 18:12.41 | infobot | ACTION jumps on OluapPlayer, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
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| 18:26.59 | Monet | hello |
| 18:27.59 | dino82_ | hi |
| 18:28.32 | dino82_ | howz all dong |
| 18:28.40 | OluapPlayer | Hi dino |
| 18:28.42 | OluapPlayer | Doing okay |
| 18:28.54 | dino82_ | Sp Frace has a new premier eh? Lets see how he deals withe Neutrality Problems :D |
| 18:29.02 | dino82_ | @Oluap: Great to hear! |
| 18:29.26 | dino82_ | I see Dhazhrak has gotten a new appearance :P |
| 18:32.43 | Quark8 | Hello dino. |
| 18:36.06 | dino82_ | hi |
| 18:39.56 | Hachiman | Xho Imperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ADoctrina_Venefica#18.2F11.2F34:_It_Called_Me_Stupid.21 reed |
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| 18:42.27 | Quark8 | Hello DrodoEmpire. |
| 18:42.37 | DrodoEmpire | Hey everyone |
| 18:42.39 | DrodoEmpire | Hey Quark |
| 18:42.41 | DrodoEmpire | Welp |
| 18:42.49 | DrodoEmpire | Got back from my first day back to school |
| 18:43.04 | Hachiman | lmao you have to go to school |
| 18:43.09 | Quark8 | Today's my second. |
| 18:43.26 | DrodoEmpire | Weirdest part is that it didn't feel like a new year- me and friends fell back in to our old routine so quickly it felt like maybe there's been a week, weekend off since last time |
| 18:43.36 | DrodoEmpire | And yeah I do <.< |
| 18:44.18 | Quark8 | It's a Catholic school, and considering the fact that I'm a Hindu I half-expected everyone to go full "deus vult" on me. |
| 18:44.22 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 18:44.56 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah as far as I know the "Catholic" bit of Catholic school's only really seen in the higher discipline standard and maybe some religious education nowadays |
| 18:44.59 | DrodoEmpire | Not sure though |
| 18:45.35 | Hachiman | I remember in my secondary school that Muslims / Hindus were allowed to miss religious education lessons for some reason |
| 18:45.37 | Hachiman | Like, why |
| 18:45.53 | Quark8 | Yeah there's religion class (I was hoping for world religion, but that was too much to hope for). |
| 18:46.28 | Quark8 | Hachiman: That's odd. |
| 18:46.47 | Hachiman | It wasn't even just Abrahamic religion either, we studied world religion |
| 18:47.28 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, probably because they assumed for whatever reason Muslims/Hindus would be offended |
| 18:48.07 | DrodoEmpire | Complete nonsense of course- everyone should follow the same general curriculum regardless of background |
| 18:48.33 | Hachiman | Meanwhile they oppressed us atheist kids through it all rather unfairly when we don't have a religion at all *tips fedora* |
| 18:48.43 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 18:48.57 | DrodoEmpire | Nah religion's interesting and is and will remain very relevant |
| 18:49.02 | DrodoEmpire | To society and politics |
| 18:49.05 | DrodoEmpire | Best we learn of it >.< |
| 18:49.06 | Hachiman | Just kidding, even though I've been atheist for as long as I can remember, world religion was one of the topics I was heavily interested in |
| 18:49.10 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 18:49.15 | Quark8 | ^^ |
| 18:49.52 | Hachiman | cus its good to learn about ur enemies u kno |
| 18:50.36 | Quark8 | Easiest way to defeat your religious enemies - learn about their attitude on masturbation. |
| 18:51.11 | Hachiman | hur |
| 18:52.39 | DrodoEmpire | lul |
| 18:59.24 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: We just let kids decide which religion to learn |
| 18:59.35 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 18:59.39 | Imperios | Muslim kids can decide to learn Islam, Buddhists Buddhism, etc |
| 18:59.55 | Imperios | And there's a secular ethics course for fedora-tipping kids |
| 19:00.23 | Imperios | There was a lot of controversy when the course was introduced, though |
| 19:00.53 | Imperios | For some reason despite the religion being on the rise and the society being conservative, it still isn't trusted |
| 19:01.39 | DrodoEmpire | I suppose |
| 19:02.29 | DrodoEmpire | I mean one would want to ensure it merely teaches *of* the subject, and doesn't advocate *for* it necessarily |
| 19:02.48 | DrodoEmpire | You'd want people to walk out of a class about Islam knowing of it- not necessarily as Muslims |
| 19:02.57 | DrodoEmpire | (Assuming they weren't Muslims beforehand) |
| 19:03.00 | DrodoEmpire | For example |
| 19:03.29 | DrodoEmpire | You'd want someone walking out of a secular ethics class knowing of it, not deconverted |
| 19:04.29 | DrodoEmpire | So I understand the potential concern |
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| 19:10.22 | Charles_Murray | Hi guys! |
| 19:10.35 | dino82_ | hi |
| 19:13.16 | Monet | hi |
| 19:16.53 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
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| 19:22.56 | OluapPlayer | return of spu |
| 19:23.08 | Xho | INDEED |
| 19:26.47 | dino82_ | Xho! |
| 19:26.48 | Xho | So I get motion sick while playing Fallout |
| 19:26.50 | dino82_ | Aweosme Dhazhrak new version :D |
| 19:26.52 | Xho | I am scrublord-tier gamer |
| 19:26.56 | Xho | Thanks |
| 19:29.19 | Imperios | Xho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Kaas_Commonwealth Just in time |
| 19:29.28 | Imperios | Take a look and say what I have to change |
| 19:29.41 | Xho | rite |
| 19:29.49 | Xho | I will randomly disappear in a minute because of food so |
| 19:30.55 | Imperios | Disappear and then return or disappear for a while |
| 19:32.23 | Xho | Probably no longer than half an hour |
| 19:32.35 | Imperios | The rest may also take a look |
| 19:35.04 | Xho | Seems to all work out to me |
| 19:38.52 | Hachiman | It looks fairly interesting |
| 19:38.57 | Hachiman | I'll give it a quick read over |
| 19:41.35 | dino82_ | Nicepage Imperios |
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| 19:43.58 | DrodoEmpire | Back >.< |
| 19:44.06 | DrodoEmpire | ~seen Hachiman |
| 19:44.10 | infobot | hachiman <5aff325c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.255.50.92> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 5m 13s ago, saying: 'I'll give it a quick read over'. |
| 19:44.19 | DrodoEmpire | Must've pinged out |
| 19:44.23 | Monet | He should come back soon don't worry. |
| 19:44.41 | DrodoEmpire | kk |
| 19:44.47 | DrodoEmpire | Talking to him about fiction stuff |
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| 19:44.59 | Hachiman | Fucking IRCunt |
| 19:45.28 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 19:45.29 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
| 19:45.33 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 19:47.38 | Imperios | Hachiman: As for Venefica, sorry, I am a little busy right now |
| 19:47.41 | Imperios | Will read tomorrow |
| 19:47.50 | Hachiman | Fair enough |
| 19:58.16 | Imperios | Charles_Murray: "passer mes vacances DANS Angleterre" or "A Angleterre"? |
| 20:01.24 | Charles_Murray | "en Angleterre" |
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| 20:01.38 | Xho | fukn |
| 20:03.18 | Monet | hi |
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| 20:03.30 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 20:05.59 | Hachiman | Imperios Technobliterator Monet DrodoEmpire: Do any of you have any idea why people end up becoming mercenaries / joining PMCs?# |
| 20:06.31 | DrodoEmpire | Not an expert by any means, but PMCs often come out of ex-special forces people setting them up |
| 20:06.35 | Imperios | It happens during regime changes |
| 20:06.37 | OluapPlayer | because the weird one-eyed guy sent you flying on a balloon and he doesn't accept no as an answer |
| 20:06.38 | DrodoEmpire | Or generals |
| 20:06.39 | Imperios | E.g. South Africa or Russia |
| 20:06.45 | Imperios | Military gets downsized, people lose their jobs |
| 20:06.50 | Imperios | People need to go somewhere |
| 20:06.53 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah it can happen there |
| 20:06.59 | Imperios | And their only talent is killing people |
| 20:06.59 | Imperios | Voila |
| 20:07.04 | Hachiman | Right |
| 20:07.10 | DrodoEmpire | Mercenaries vary- again int he west they're ex-soldiers who find work in these legit PMCs |
| 20:07.37 | Monet | In other places, like Africa, they're one of the more financially viable career choices I think. |
| 20:07.37 | DrodoEmpire | In places like Africa regular people sometimes just buy a kalashnikov in the city market and sell themselves to a warlord |
| 20:07.43 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 20:07.56 | DrodoEmpire | So yeah its a diverse number of reasons for sure |
| 20:08.16 | DrodoEmpire | More often than not though I guess its career soldiers doing what they do best :p |
| 20:08.32 | Monet | Happens in any industry really. |
| 20:08.38 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 20:08.49 | Hachiman | Imperios: I was just wondering reasons as to why say Sylits would become mercenaries or if mercenary work would even be considered viable in their society / culture |
| 20:08.57 | Monet | Sometimes it's better to find where your job is still popular rather than trying to re-educate yourself in a very different field. |
| 20:09.06 | Imperios | Hachiman: Could be disgraced for one reason on the other too |
| 20:09.21 | Imperios | Perhaps like Somali pirates, they just had nowhere to go |
| 20:09.28 | Imperios | For some reason now I think of Yakuza |
| 20:09.32 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Indeed |
| 20:09.39 | Hachiman | Ooh Sylit Yakuza would be interesting |
| 20:09.55 | DrodoEmpire | weeb shit <.< |
| 20:10.08 | Hachiman | hur |
| 20:10.15 | DrodoEmpire | Actually now I wonder |
| 20:10.20 | Hachiman | I mean, work of any sort is considered superior to being unemployed for most Sylit cultures |
| 20:10.28 | Wormy_ | smashi mashi planet bashy http://phys.org/news/2016-09-earth-carbon-planetary-smashup.html |
| 20:10.39 | Hachiman | But I'm wondering if mercenary work would be encompassed under that |
| 20:10.43 | DrodoEmpire | If Weeaboos are extreme Japanophiles, and "Koreaboos" are the same but for Korea- is there any equivalent for China/Mongolia? |
| 20:11.00 | Hachiman | Cathayaboos |
| 20:11.08 | Wormy_ | I'm obsessive over China |
| 20:11.12 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 20:11.23 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I love Chinese and Mongol history |
| 20:11.29 | DrodoEmpire | Manchu history as well |
| 20:11.42 | Wormy_ | Awesome history, and I like their architecture and philosophy |
| 20:11.49 | Wormy_ | And martial arts, of course |
| 20:12.01 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: East Asians |
| 20:12.11 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 20:12.18 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Apparently though only like 50% of the Yakuza is Japanese |
| 20:12.24 | Imperios | Like one third of it is actually Korean |
| 20:12.28 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 20:12.29 | Wormy_ | I also like China's ambitions of space domination |
| 20:12.43 | DrodoEmpire | I like the spirit |
| 20:12.45 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: You'll be happy to know that I did have an idea for a Sylit Middle Ages-era faction that are essentially raptor-riding Mongols |
| 20:12.47 | DrodoEmpire | Not the fact its China |
| 20:12.56 | DrodoEmpire | Hachiman: Oh that's cool XD |
| 20:13.08 | Wormy_ | At least the Chinese still dream |
| 20:14.06 | Imperios | I am a Chinaboo I think |
| 20:16.20 | Imperios | I like Chinese music |
| 20:17.16 | Wormy_ | I often listen to it |
| 20:18.21 | Wormy_ | One thing I have neglected is Chinese cuisine, never really made anything beyond a stir fry, and had some Chinese restursant food that probably isn't representative of it. Yet I eat quite a wide range of cuisines from other countries |
| 20:18.59 | Imperios | Ooooh yes Chinese cuisine is best |
| 20:19.21 | Wormy_ | I had some food at a Pakistan community centre the other day |
| 20:19.23 | Imperios | My parents love Chinese restaurants and so do I |
| 20:19.31 | Imperios | Wormy_: What is Paki food like? |
| 20:19.36 | Hachiman | >Paki |
| 20:19.36 | Imperios | Is it like Indian food? |
| 20:19.39 | Imperios | Pakistani even |
| 20:19.39 | Hachiman | Can't say that friend |
| 20:19.53 | Wormy_ | A bit, but quite distinct |
| 20:20.10 | Wormy_ | Yeah that is considered a racial slur in the UK |
| 20:20.25 | Imperios | It's a bit weird that both the UK and Russia have almost indentical slurs in that regard |
| 20:20.41 | Imperios | Russia has Dagestan, and people from Dagestans are "dags", or "dagi" |
| 20:20.42 | DrodoEmpire | "Now what's that them-there *knee-grow* food like?" - Imperios basically |
| 20:20.51 | Wormy_ | lol |
| 20:20.51 | Imperios | That reminds me |
| 20:21.01 | Imperios | I wonder what African-American cuisine is like |
| 20:21.04 | Wormy_ | It would not be wise to say that word there |
| 20:21.15 | Hachiman | Fried chicken |
| 20:21.16 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:21.19 | DrodoEmpire | (insert fried-chicken joke here) |
| 20:21.21 | Imperios | Well |
| 20:21.30 | DrodoEmpire | I figure it varies |
| 20:21.37 | Imperios | Fried chicken IS part of African-American cuisine right? |
| 20:21.41 | Wormy_ | Well I've had Cajun food and a source of that is Afro-American |
| 20:21.48 | Imperios | From what I understand KFC is based on it |
| 20:21.48 | DrodoEmpire | North American food in general |
| 20:21.52 | Imperios | Right |
| 20:22.03 | DrodoEmpire | Its not like anybody *doesn't like* fried chicken >.< |
| 20:22.12 | DrodoEmpire | I mean I know places like Louisiana have very distinct cuisines |
| 20:22.17 | Hachiman | Except Wormy and Monet because they refuse to eat fried chicken |
| 20:22.17 | DrodoEmpire | Cajun food and whatnot |
| 20:22.19 | Wormy_ | Even I eat meast-free fried "chicken" |
| 20:22.25 | Imperios | I've read that chicken is prevalent in African-American cuisine because slaves could only have small animals like these |
| 20:22.30 | Monet | I've only tried Jamaican food once. And I don't know if it was supposed ot but it was really spicy. |
| 20:22.37 | Imperios | *own |
| 20:22.41 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: Yeah chicken's pretty cheap |
| 20:22.46 | DrodoEmpire | Not too high-maintenance |
| 20:22.52 | Imperios | Wormy_: Oooh actually I wonder |
| 20:23.04 | Imperios | Does Pakistani cuisine have pilaf? |
| 20:23.06 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Yeah it tends to be |
| 20:23.17 | Monet | HAchiman: Well more specifically I refuse to eat Kentucky fired chicken. I've fired chicken at home. |
| 20:23.18 | Wormy_ | Imperios: Eating food at the Indian and Pakistan centres, I noticed the food is very different to resturant curry, more traditional |
| 20:23.31 | DrodoEmpire | I know the local Francophone minority, the Acadians, have... *really* heavy cuisine |
| 20:23.38 | Wormy_ | So I probably haven't got a good idea of Chinese food from the take-away |
| 20:23.40 | Monet | fried, not fired. |
| 20:23.52 | Imperios | Wormy_: Less spicy perhaps? |
| 20:23.58 | DrodoEmpire | Lots of mashed potatoes, sits in your stomach like a rock but fuck it it tastes good |
| 20:24.12 | Imperios | >mashed potatoes |
| 20:24.12 | Wormy_ | I've never had pilaf there |
| 20:24.13 | Imperios | <33333 |
| 20:24.16 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 20:24.21 | Imperios | Pilaf is best |
| 20:24.28 | Hachiman | I prefer my potato in vodka form |
| 20:24.30 | Imperios | It's like paella but with more meat |
| 20:24.31 | Monet | Wormy_: There's a number of Chinese restaurants down where I live. |
| 20:24.41 | Imperios | and animal fat instead of butter |
| 20:24.48 | Imperios | And carrot |
| 20:24.48 | DrodoEmpire | (Fun fact as well, the "Cajuns" are descendants of the Acadians, the majority of whom were expelled and either went back to France or went to Louisiana) |
| 20:24.55 | Wormy_ | Imperios: Chinese food I've had is always super-spicy, is real Chinese food not as spicy? |
| 20:24.59 | DrodoEmpire | (And the Acadians are the Francophone minority in NS) |
| 20:25.13 | Imperios | Wormy_: I do not think it should necessary be spicy |
| 20:25.33 | Imperios | In fact what I noticed is that it has more varied taste than Korean cuisine |
| 20:25.34 | Monet | British cuisine has long been devoid of strong spices. |
| 20:25.47 | Wormy_ | Just like a lot of Indian food tbh |
| 20:25.52 | Imperios | Monet: Because cold climate = terrible bland food |
| 20:25.56 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh |
| 20:25.59 | Wormy_ | From South India its rare to have super hot curry |
| 20:26.11 | DrodoEmpire | Nah >.< I mean I... I dunno what sort of cuisine I most often eat |
| 20:26.12 | Imperios | Russian cuisine on itself is pretty awful hur |
| 20:26.12 | Monet | Imperios: True. We are the meat and two veg country. |
| 20:26.17 | DrodoEmpire | I love a good beef roast |
| 20:26.20 | Imperios | Same with Russians |
| 20:26.43 | Imperios | Russian food is very simple, and often quite fat |
| 20:26.47 | DrodoEmpire | And most of what I eat for dinner could definitely be considered English, at least in structure |
| 20:27.02 | Wormy_ | Before the empire, people mostly persisted on root vegetables like the worzel, grains and broth. All very bland and colourless. The average pesant didn't even have much meat |
| 20:27.03 | Monet | Britain is the land of fry up some potatoes, serve with a steak and that's your dinner. No lah-de-dah oils, sauces and spices. |
| 20:27.18 | Imperios | Wormy_: Russians ate lots of turnips before the Empire |
| 20:27.20 | Wormy_ | Maybe thats why British curries obsess over being spcy |
| 20:27.32 | Imperios | After that, potatoes |
| 20:27.43 | Imperios | Also there's a lot of buckwheat |
| 20:28.07 | dino82_ | bye bye |
| 20:28.32 | Monet | Although Britain is also the land of the chip. |
| 20:28.39 | Imperios | Wormy_: http://globalist.org.ua/life/media/serial-img/961_2.jpg It's like the most common garnish in Russia |
| 20:28.48 | Wormy_ | I'm making a very "meat and two veg" dinner tonight, roast potatioes, yorkshire puddings (batter), meat-free peppered steak, leek, green beans and gravy |
| 20:29.00 | Imperios | It's a bit bland but if you add sauce or meat it tasts very good |
| 20:29.06 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 20:29.13 | Wormy_ | That looks quite nice to me |
| 20:29.15 | Imperios | What does vegan meat taste like? |
| 20:29.32 | Monet | Chips fascinate me as they have a very short lifespan after cooking. |
| 20:29.38 | DrodoEmpire | One thing I like to do is to cook meals from earlier eras and cultures |
| 20:29.51 | Imperios | Monet: Chips as in fat french fries |
| 20:29.54 | Wormy_ | Meat in texture, quite bland in taste |
| 20:29.56 | Monet | ALmost immediately after cooking, chips go from fluffy and crunch to all soggy. |
| 20:30.01 | DrodoEmpire | I once made a pretty-accurate Sumerian dish, which was actually pretty good |
| 20:30.03 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: I've heard people trying to replicate garum |
| 20:30.08 | DrodoEmpire | Ooh |
| 20:30.08 | Wormy_ | But many vege foods are flavoured |
| 20:30.11 | Imperios | of people |
| 20:30.18 | Monet | Imperios: Yeah fat french fries. |
| 20:30.39 | DrodoEmpire | Including these date cookies which were delicious |
| 20:31.05 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: http://www.k-istine.ru/images/other/garum/garum-18.jpg it apparently tastes like pickled fish |
| 20:31.06 | Wormy_ | Imperios: Jackfruit and breadfruit are quite meaty fruits, I imagine you would have eaten those |
| 20:31.26 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: Yeah because that was basically what it was |
| 20:31.36 | DrodoEmpire | *Extremely* popular condiment |
| 20:31.44 | Wormy_ | Mushroom and halloumi cheese also make good meat substitutes, or pounded beans for burgers |
| 20:31.53 | Monet | I find I eat a lot of Italian. |
| 20:31.56 | DrodoEmpire | There were huge corporations who ran garum factories in ancient Rome, it was crazy |
| 20:32.04 | Monet | (And I'm not just talking about pizza) |
| 20:32.08 | Wormy_ | (I love Mexian and Texan food) |
| 20:32.14 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, I like my pasta for sure |
| 20:32.55 | Monet | Carbonara, garlic bread, risotto, seafood platters. |
| 20:32.59 | Monet | I like mussels. |
| 20:33.00 | Imperios | Wormy_: Pounded beans taste really good |
| 20:33.08 | Imperios | I can't stand most seafood |
| 20:33.12 | Imperios | Save for seaweed and fish |
| 20:33.23 | Monet | Imperios: Try fresh seafood. |
| 20:33.24 | Imperios | Fish because fish, seaweed because I grew up with it |
| 20:33.26 | DrodoEmpire | I like a good lobster |
| 20:33.36 | DrodoEmpire | Which're big, fresh, and cheap in NS |
| 20:33.56 | DrodoEmpire | (relatively cheap, still expensive ofc) |
| 20:34.02 | Imperios | Lemme show you Korean seaweed soup |
| 20:34.21 | Monet | Seafood has a short shelf-life and very easily tastes like cardboard if you keep it out of the water too long. |
| 20:35.06 | Monet | Cook it while it's fresh and it is gorgeous. |
| 20:35.33 | Imperios | Monet Wormy_: http://itd2.mycdn.me/image?t=20&bid=802845808307&id=802845808307&plc=WEB&tkn=*ZytHKBdXEOdvyhPgmfw10iuH0HU Not the best picture but that's what i could find |
| 20:35.48 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 20:36.00 | Monet | Is that tofu on the side? |
| 20:36.16 | Wormy_ | Is that a dumpling? |
| 20:36.30 | Monet | There's a lot of liquid there. |
| 20:36.48 | Wormy_ | It looks a bit like miso soup |
| 20:36.51 | Imperios | Monet: Tofu yeah, though my family did not add it |
| 20:37.01 | Monet | Actually one thing I've fallen in love with today: Barrel-aged feta. |
| 20:37.12 | Imperios | Actually, Koreans in Russia in particular have a slightly different way of making soups |
| 20:37.32 | Imperios | See, Koreans usually eat rice and soup separately |
| 20:37.44 | Wormy_ | Don't think I've ever had Korean food, would like to try |
| 20:37.55 | Imperios | However in Russia times were tough, and people had to use up all food - including rice |
| 20:38.19 | Monet | At least water was plentiful in winter lol. |
| 20:38.36 | Imperios | Since a lot of rice remained on the bowl when cooked, people came to use that overcooked rice by submerging rice in water |
| 20:38.48 | Imperios | So that it would get off the bowl |
| 20:38.50 | Wormy_ | You have to boil up a lot of snow though lol |
| 20:39.03 | Imperios | That's why Koreans in Russia and Kazakhstan eat soup with rice inside |
| 20:39.15 | Monet | Wormy_: In the middle of the Russian winter I doubt that's much of a concern. |
| 20:39.17 | Imperios | Or just water with rice and some garnish |
| 20:39.22 | Imperios | Wormy_: http://ifs.cook-time.com/preview/img718/718030.jpg For example |
| 20:39.58 | Wormy_ | So it all sticks together? |
| 20:40.21 | Monet | Actually one of the more creative English meals is probably toad in the hole, though not sure |
| 20:40.32 | Monet | It's basically pudding batter embedded with sausages |
| 20:40.34 | Imperios | Well the rice will obviously become softer in the water |
| 20:41.06 | Monet | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/Toad_in_the_hole.jpg |
| 20:41.09 | Imperios | http://gotovimsami.kz/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/DSC00009.jpg Like this, simple Korean cuisine in Russian condition |
| 20:41.13 | Imperios | Russian conditions |
| 20:41.48 | Wormy_ | Have you ever had stuffed vine leaves, I think they are they are Turkic: usually rice stuffed in sour leaves and left in brine. I could eat a whole tin of them |
| 20:42.12 | Monet | Imperios: ...that's just rice in water. I think Russia just out-blanded Britain. |
| 20:42.39 | Monet | Or Korea |
| 20:42.46 | Imperios | Monet: Well obviously you don't eat it alone |
| 20:42.55 | Wormy_ | Hm, I usually don't like my rice watery |
| 20:42.56 | Imperios | You take some meat and vegetables with it |
| 20:43.02 | Monet | I've eaten noodles on their own before. |
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| 20:43.36 | Imperios | Wormy_: It goes really well with stewed potatoes |
| 20:43.38 | Imperios | And chicken |
| 20:43.52 | Wormy_ | Yeah |
| 20:44.01 | Imperios | Rice plus potatoes |
| 20:44.10 | Imperios | See perfect Russian-Korean combination |
| 20:44.19 | Monet | Lol. |
| 20:44.21 | Wormy_ | These are stuffed vine leaves, vtw https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3820/12033837163_15ab595aef_b.jpg |
| 20:44.29 | Imperios | Ooh I ate these |
| 20:44.33 | Wormy_ | They are actually Greek, not Turkic |
| 20:44.34 | Imperios | CAn't remember where |
| 20:46.51 | Imperios | Monet: Since you like feta, lemme show you Caucasian cheese |
| 20:47.22 | Imperios | http://nasha-kuhnya.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/illu_article_content.jpg t|hat's suluguni |
| 20:47.29 | Imperios | It has a very strong salty taste |
| 20:47.37 | Imperios | Like Greek cheese |
| 20:47.39 | Monet | I tried eating Feta mostly to wean myself of cowsmilk. |
| 20:47.47 | Imperios | But is also solid |
| 20:48.25 | Imperios | Hm |
| 20:48.40 | Imperios | Wormy_ Monet: http://irecommend.ru/sites/default/files/product-images/9672/13770638_2007915kaese_ger_web_600.jpg Do you have cheese braids like this? |
| 20:49.16 | Monet | Can't say I have seen those. |
| 20:49.34 | Imperios | Oooh it tastes really good |
| 20:49.35 | Monet | they look vaguely familiar but I might be thinking of a bread. |
| 20:50.01 | Imperios | I like how most of the food we talk about that is popular in our countries isn't even English or Russian |
| 20:50.11 | Monet | I think I once had salty butter. |
| 20:50.14 | Wormy_ | Yes, but only as a product marketed to children |
| 20:50.29 | Wormy_ | Hm, "cheese straws" or something like thayt |
| 20:50.34 | Wormy_ | probably nothing like it |
| 20:50.42 | Monet | Wasn't so keen on salted butter. |
| 20:51.21 | Wormy_ | They do look interesting |
| 20:52.27 | Monet | During wartime there was a type of bread introduced that wa smade with a good amount of salt. APparently it tasted horrible though. |
| 20:52.44 | Wormy_ | sounds unhealthy |
| 20:53.17 | Monet | It was introduced due to rationing iirc. |
| 20:53.28 | Monet | It lasted longer than normal bread I think. |
| 20:55.43 | Monet | And yeah after the war people were very glad when it was phased out. |
| 20:56.39 | Imperios | I fucking love our uni lecturers |
| 20:56.56 | Imperios | They sent us an email and they called us "Dear children" at the start |
| 20:57.01 | Imperios | >dear children |
| 20:57.07 | Imperios | WE ARE FUCKING 20 WOMAN |
| 20:57.57 | Imperios | Wormy_ Monet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtDmYeqfcYM is it just me or does Hitler sound like Farage her |
| 20:57.59 | Imperios | here |
| 20:59.58 | Monet | He kind of does. |
| 21:03.11 | Monet | You're not alone in the comparison. |
| 21:04.18 | Wormy_ | lol |
| 21:04.24 | Monet | "Dear children" *whole class is triggered* |
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| 21:05.55 | Imperios | Monet: When does secondary educxation begin in the UK? |
| 21:06.19 | Monet | Age or date? |
| 21:06.25 | Imperios | Agwe |
| 21:06.26 | Imperios | Age |
| 21:06.30 | Imperios | Wormy_: http://thumbs.ifood.tv/files/image/03/03/72043-cheese-straws.jpg When you saisd cheese straws did you mean that? |
| 21:06.33 | Monet | 11 |
| 21:06.52 | Monet | Imperios: Those are what I've eaten! |
| 21:07.03 | Imperios | Nah cheese braids are different |
| 21:07.06 | Imperios | That's bread with cheese |
| 21:07.14 | Imperios | Cheese braids are braid-shaped sheese |
| 21:07.16 | Imperios | cheese |
| 21:07.41 | Monet | Wormy might be thinking of these https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2014/11/shutterstock_219722968/lead_large.jpg?1430149773 |
| 21:07.56 | Monet | We call them cheesestrings. |
| 21:08.14 | Imperios | Yeah like these but thinner and roasted |
| 21:08.27 | Monet | Basically they're tubes of cheese that you can peel apart and eat. |
| 21:09.04 | The_Randomness | I call it string cheese lol |
| 21:09.53 | Monet | Maybe it's a branding thing. Stringcheese in the states, Cheestrings in the UK. |
| 21:11.06 | Imperios | The_Randomness: http://irecommend.ru/sites/default/files/product-images/9672/13770638_2007915kaese_ger_web_600.jpg For the record, that's what we have in Russia |
| 21:11.55 | The_Randomness | That reminds me of a spindle(?) of yarn or something |
| 21:12.44 | Imperios | that's edible |
| 21:12.48 | Imperios | That's cheese |
| 21:13.13 | OluapPlayer | Cheese hair |
| 21:13.55 | Monet | FUnnily enough it was very common (due to the brand mascot) to pull apart cheesestrings to look like the stick had dreadlocks. |
| 21:14.33 | Imperios | Xho: http://steaklovers.menu/food/~m/ckeditor/view/articles/561e25e12dba9 Azerbaijan cheese |
| 21:14.55 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: HAIR FOR EVERYONE SCRATCH THAT HAIR FOR NOONE (Also known as Warhammer 40000) |
| 21:20.37 | Imperios | Monet: I have been thinking |
| 21:20.49 | Imperios | Do you think Brexit makes it more likely for the (remaining) EU to federalise or less? |
| 21:21.02 | Imperios | I guess less but then again a smaller federation could be easier to unite |
| 21:21.29 | Monet | Well Britain has been one of the highest-profile opposers to the idea of federalisation. |
| 21:32.02 | Charles_Murray | test |
| 21:32.30 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 21:36.58 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 21:39.32 | Xho | test |
| 21:39.44 | Xho | Imperios: Looks like a slab of marble |
| 21:39.53 | Xho | Or styrofoam actually |
| 21:39.57 | Xho | Let's go with styrofoam |
| 21:53.16 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 22:11.10 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14224794_1778998389045510_4843813419455048056_n.jpg?oh=ab29ee09ae88543949c89c596b5d44ac&oe=584DFF2F |
| 22:13.20 | Monet | "I am four eels" *groans* |
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| 22:14.57 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
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| 22:57.57 | Tek0516 | If you're patient enough to explore Elite certainly has some nice sights. (Pleiades Nebula if anyone's curious.) https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/H1DfDRsR/20160908185634_1.jpg |
| 22:58.27 | DrodoEmpire | Ooh |
| 23:00.31 | Tek0516 | There was also an alien crash site people discovered recently. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/R9nM2rPf/20160907230819_1.jpg |
| 23:00.54 | Monet | cool |
| 23:00.56 | DrodoEmpire | Oh cool |
| 23:01.27 | Tek0516 | Though when I logged back in this morning there was a 2km capital ship right above it telling me to go away or get killed... I accidentally flew too close and had a brief heart attack. :P |
| 23:01.37 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 23:01.43 | Wormy_ | I hear that players presume a big alien contact update to the game is being hinted at |
| 23:01.59 | DrodoEmpire | That'd be interesting |
| 23:02.21 | Tek0516 | The game's spent most of this year leading up to it. |
| 23:02.51 | Tek0516 | Hm... it seems that after all that effort to reach NGC 7822 nebula I never took any screenshots. |
| 23:03.01 | Tek0516 | :/ |
| 23:14.22 | Xho | Whatever game that is it looks better than NMS |
| 23:14.46 | DrodoEmpire | Its Elite: Dangerous |
| 23:15.21 | Tek0516 | It's not exactly the cheapest game, and can be a bit grindy, but it looks great and I've quite enjoyed the game. |
| 23:16.29 | Tek0516 | Has its own exploration system, or just dedicated combat, trading, etc systems for the majority of players. :P |
| 23:18.53 | Tek0516 | Here's a quick shot of the inside of a space station (and my gorgeous Imperial Clipper ship. :P) https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/G0CyKDoZ/20160908191811_1.jpg |
| 23:20.55 | Xho | It looks like it should have had more hype than NMS did |
| 23:21.09 | Tek0516 | It's been out for around two years now too. :P |
| 23:22.16 | Tek0516 | Oh, and while I'm sitting here there's even station announcements with full voice acting. Apparently they even added some for station approach, don't remember those. |
| 23:22.58 | Wormy_ | Guys I'm genuinly frightened and disturbed, my reality totally glitched the fuck out |
| 23:23.49 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: Uh oh? |
| 23:24.28 | Wormy_ | I've been staying at this house all week to look after a dog, I lock the backdoor at night. The dog needs to go out, so I go to unlock the door. The bloody key would not the fit the lock, try as I might from any angle or force. |
| 23:24.46 | Wormy_ | Never ever had a problem with this door, I unlock it and lock it frequently |
| 23:25.01 | Wormy_ | First I thought it was funny, then I got more and more disturbed |
| 23:25.28 | Wormy_ | I start thinking "omg reality has bugged", and then the key miracoulsly fot the lock |
| 23:25.31 | Wormy_ | *fit |
| 23:26.02 | Wormy_ | And then I try numerous tims again, the lock slides in perfectly with no resistance |
| 23:26.42 | Xho | You're not drunk are you |
| 23:26.57 | Wormy_ | I had a half a bottle of wine, but don't feel drunk |
| 23:28.12 | Wormy_ | When it wasn't going in, I even tried to look through the keyhole to see if anything was blocking it |
| 23:29.26 | Wormy_ | I stood there for about 3 minutes to try and unlock the door honestly it wasn' funny anymore at that point |
| 23:29.31 | Tek0516 | Drunk Wormy_ is drunk. :P (Shhh... Can't let him learn the truth.) |
| 23:29.58 | Wormy_ | Also, when I looked through the keyhole after, I could see through it |
| 23:30.20 | Wormy_ | What if someone had their finger on the keyhole, seriously? |
| 23:30.33 | Wormy_ | I'm in a dodgy place |
| 23:33.03 | Tek0516 | O.o |
| 23:36.14 | Wormy_ | THe weird thing is, I even try to replicate rthe key not fitting the lock, it just slides in so easily like a hot knife through butter |
| 23:36.33 | Wormy_ | And yes, I did check if I had the key upside down |
| 23:38.26 | Tek0516 | Xho: E:D has like half the stuff NMS promised. :P Excluding anything about landing on habitable planets or walking around, though both are actively being added and the latter may be relatively soon. |
| 23:39.04 | Xho | geezush |
| 23:40.20 | Tek0516 | It's certainly not a perfect game but it's got a fair amount of what NMS missed, and unlike Star Citizen is actually released. :P |
| 23:41.43 | Wormy_ | I hear something tapping on the window >_< |
| 23:41.52 | Wormy_ | I dare not look |
| 23:43.50 | Xho | Probably a moth |
| 23:46.35 | Tek0516 | Even just look at this one station model. And for Wormy_, yes it rotates. And for NMS haters, yes it actually moves in an orbit. :P https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/bq6rCHbv/20160908194525_1.jpg |
| 23:47.08 | Wormy_ | Awesome, but I'm an NMS apologist |
| 23:47.15 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 23:47.28 | The_Randomness | I love that station model |
| 23:47.33 | The_Randomness | also, that ship is shiny |
| 23:47.57 | Tek0516 | Sitting in that position I can actually see us orbiting around the planet slowly. |
| 23:48.33 | Tek0516 | The_Randomness: You need to unlock the Imperial ships but damn they look nice. Totally worth the grind. :P |
| 23:49.42 | Wormy_ | NMS did have rotating planets, but it was removed to make the gameplay easier. Its not a simulation game even though you could be forgiven for thinking it was one. |
| 23:50.13 | Wormy_ | Also, the ability to own a big ship is coming with the next major update |
| 23:50.57 | Wormy_ | There's a lot of bullshit and hate spread around NMS, and worst of all, somne of it usn't even true |
| 23:51.30 | Tek0516 | Fair enough, though I would have preferred more realistic mechanics like in here. :P |
| 23:52.34 | Wormy_ | And while people have cited Sean saying this or that, which wasn't accurate or made it to the final game, they never mention all the videos where he said the truth |
| 23:53.23 | Wormy_ | So would I, I'm a digger of simulation and sandbox games |
| 23:53.49 | Wormy_ | I thinking rotating planets should be optional |
| 23:53.49 | Tek0516 | I haven't played the game and I'm not on the hate train. Just pointing out ED has a few things NMS doesn't. :P |
| 23:54.12 | Wormy_ | That's fine, they're different games |
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| 23:54.56 | Wormy_ | NMS is essentially like walkjing around in the world of a 70's sci-fi cover |
| 23:55.14 | Tek0516 | Most of the space stuff is in orbit or on a few pre-selected surface bases. Since the rotation speed is realistic and the distances in general are large enough the rotation is never really an issue in ED. |
| 23:56.43 | Tek0516 | ooh, sat at that one spot just long enough for the planet to slide off the edge of the screen. |
| 23:58.11 | Wormy_ | I wish there could be a game with the exploration and gameplay depth of Star Citizen, economics of ED or EVE, beauty of NMS and realism of Space Engine |
| 23:58.56 | Wormy_ | It will never be done because you can't spread out the game's goals too widely |
| 23:59.00 | DrodoEmpire | I think we'll have to wait >.< |
| 23:59.09 | DrodoEmpire | And yeah |
| 23:59.29 | Wormy_ | Both practically and the product's goodness itself |
| 23:59.57 | Wormy_ | Spore developer Chris Hecker explained this smewhere to address why some of Spore's features were removed |
