| 00:10.44 | DrodoEmpire | "I put maple syrup in my vape" |
| 00:13.59 | Wormy_ | Very Canadian |
| 00:17.47 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 00:31.16 | DrodoEmpire | Technobliterator: What's your first AMA going to be about? |
| 00:35.57 | Hachiman | Please involve Loron |
| 00:36.05 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 00:44.22 | Technobliterator | Well, you shall see when it's up |
| 00:44.27 | Technobliterator | I think I'll just do it tomorrow though |
| 00:44.31 | DrodoEmpire | Ah alright |
| 00:44.31 | Technobliterator | got too caught up in Deus Ex |
| 01:11.01 | Quark8 | test |
| 01:32.18 | Wormy_ | Doing some work on the DCP during the Tigris War era http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Recent_works#Birth_of_the_Gigaquadrant.3B_2754_to_2759_.28686_to_690_ACS.29.3B_Milky_Way.2C_Andromeda_and_Tigris |
| 01:34.43 | DrodoEmpire | Ooh interesting |
| 01:43.55 | DrodoEmpire | Was dino on today/ |
| 01:43.57 | DrodoEmpire | *? |
| 01:43.59 | DrodoEmpire | I can't recall |
| 01:56.14 | Quark8 | ~seen dino82_ |
| 01:56.17 | infobot | dino82_ <52b0ddef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.176.221.239> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 1d 9h 49m 1s ago, saying: 'so the wikia is quite quiet haha :d'. |
| 01:57.10 | Quark8 | He was not on today. |
| 01:57.28 | DrodoEmpire | Seems so |
| 01:57.41 | DrodoEmpire | I was gonna check but I know sometimes he has extra underscores |
| 01:57.56 | DrodoEmpire | Don't recall seeing him on anyhow |
| 01:58.09 | Quark8 | What did you need him for? |
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| 02:02.43 | Quark8 | Hello The_Randomness. |
| 02:02.52 | The_Randomness | Hello |
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| 02:04.12 | Quark8 | Hello Tek0516. |
| 02:06.51 | DrodoEmpire | Quark8: A couple fiction things |
| 02:07.09 | DrodoEmpire | I also posted something on the UDB that may've interested him |
| 02:07.14 | DrodoEmpire | But that's not going nowhere |
| 02:07.34 | DrodoEmpire | Also now I feel pretty bad, a bit sick |
| 02:07.38 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 02:08.35 | Quark8 | I hope that you feel better. |
| 02:08.43 | Quark8 | ~give DrodoEmpire drugs |
| 02:08.44 | infobot | ACTION gives drugs to DrodoEmpire |
| 02:08.51 | DrodoEmpire | What drugs <.< |
| 02:09.06 | Quark8 | Any drugs <.> |
| 02:09.28 | DrodoEmpire | kk |
| 02:12.23 | Wormy_ | Goodnight |
| 02:13.18 | Tek0516 | Haven't heard of this "any" drug. What's it do? :P |
| 02:13.52 | Quark8 | It can be anything it can dream of. |
| 02:57.21 | DrodoEmpire | test |
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| 04:03.43 | DrodoEmpire | The people who edit wikipedia seem like such a bunch of unbearable cunts |
| 04:03.44 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 04:04.12 | DrodoEmpire | They're either ignorant, stuck-up, annoying, or most commonly all three |
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| 10:10.31 | Monet | hello |
| 10:10.47 | Xho | Hi |
| 10:11.23 | Ghelae | Hi |
| 10:18.19 | Xho | Well I've got an idea for the Akkani Precursors for the Tuuros Galaxy |
| 10:19.44 | Liquid_Ink | Neat |
| 10:21.00 | Monet | What's the idea. |
| 10:22.23 | Xho | Basically, colossal machine life created by the Zhulultu |
| 10:24.30 | Xho | After the Zhulultu's disappearance, the Akkani activated and started to uplift planets via planting pods that contained basic organisms |
| 10:25.45 | Xho | In terms of their allegiance to the Zhulultu it would have waned after the Zhulultu's disappearance |
| 10:27.13 | Xho | Although after their functions were completed they either deactivated themselves or fell into disrepair over time |
| 10:28.05 | Xho | So there's likely multiple Akkani husks still floating in space or would have crashed into a planet |
| 10:29.12 | Xho | Chances are there's still a dormant hub of multiple Akkani in the galaxy somewhere waiting to be activated |
| 10:29.19 | Xho | Couldn't quite imagine how big those hubs are |
| 10:30.49 | Monet | Larger than Earth I imagine. |
| 10:30.57 | Xho | Probably |
| 10:31.02 | Ghelae | How large are the Akkani? |
| 10:31.07 | Xho | Each Akkani is probably around 20,000 ft tall |
| 10:31.44 | Xho | Probably would have been built in likeness of the Zhulultu as well |
| 10:31.47 | Ghelae | So over 6km. |
| 10:33.04 | Xho | As for their purpose they were most likely failsafe devices in case the Zhulultu's more advanced technology was not available |
| 10:33.22 | Xho | In terms of technological advancement the Akkani were basic designs for the Zhulultu |
| 10:33.44 | Monet | Makes sense |
| 10:34.15 | Monet | Though if they're mostly spacebound devices would they be more like a Zhulultu head? |
| 10:34.22 | Xho | Each Akkani had thousands of pods worth of single cell organisms and probably had the technology to terraform a planet |
| 10:34.54 | Xho | Well I was thinking full bipedal body but they may have come in different shapes |
| 10:38.51 | Monet | For something like that o be considered basic would say a lot about what they're capable of. |
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| 10:46.26 | Monet | hello |
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| 10:50.48 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 10:53.35 | Xho | Hi |
| 10:53.59 | Xho | Going back to the Akkani thing, they were more benevolent than the Zhulultu although that's not saying much |
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| 11:02.42 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 11:03.32 | Wormy_ | hello |
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| 11:20.26 | Xho | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/60/Akkani.png/revision/latest?cb=20160906112004 Go mad |
| 11:22.19 | Wormy_ | Can't see it very well in that form |
| 11:23.18 | ImpyDroid | Xho Wormy_ Monet: http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/aleximedashvili/12584481/148646/148646_original.jpg |
| 11:23.19 | Xho | dats y im makin a pic |
| 11:24.29 | ImpyDroid | Remind me to give that to the Divinarium |
| 11:24.31 | Monet | ImpyDroid: A mobile Mosque? pretty genius. |
| 11:24.47 | Xho | Question |
| 11:24.55 | Xho | How do they pray towards Mecca |
| 11:25.03 | Xho | If they're constantly mobile |
| 11:25.37 | Monet | Xho: Stick to driving south. |
| 11:25.52 | ImpyDroid | That is not a mosque, that is a Dussian Orthodox churh |
| 11:25.53 | ImpyDroid | *Russian |
| 11:25.55 | Monet | Or north. |
| 11:26.02 | Xho | That would explain it |
| 11:26.02 | Monet | ...ah |
| 11:26.08 | Monet | My bad |
| 11:26.13 | Wormy_ | Thats what I thought, that iconic spire |
| 11:26.16 | Xho | IT'S AN UNORTHODOX ORTHODOX CHURCH |
| 11:26.26 | ImpyDroid | We have the same domes as Muslims for some reason |
| 11:29.01 | Xho | How heavy would a 20,000 foot tall robot be |
| 11:29.52 | Xho | Currently thinking between 8 - 10 million tons |
| 11:30.22 | Monet | Yeah these things would average the mass of a mountain. |
| 11:30.57 | Xho | Hm |
| 11:32.20 | Wormy_ | It'd have difficulty walking lol |
| 11:32.36 | ImpyDroid | Xho Monet: http://i1.tatar-inform.ru/image/2015/05/14/mob_mechet.jpg Though apparently we also have mobile mosques |
| 11:32.45 | Xho | Well it would be ultra slow |
| 11:33.15 | Monet | I was thinking these machines sound so tall airplanes could fly at cruising altitudes and brush their crowns but out in the gigaquadrant we do have megascrapers and city skylines that match that. |
| 11:33.30 | Xho | MAKE IT BIGGER |
| 11:33.41 | Xho | No I think 20,000 ft is big enough |
| 11:33.43 | Monet | ImpyDroid: To the MosqueMobile! |
| 11:33.58 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:35.06 | Monet | Theoretically even if these machines were ultra slow they'd get get picked up by seismographs. |
| 11:35.10 | Xho | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/ad/AkkaniPortrait.png/revision/latest?cb=20160906113439 There we go |
| 11:36.13 | Monet | Reminds me of the Iron Giant. Only a little more sophisticated. |
| 11:36.22 | Monet | Quite a bit more sophisticated. |
| 11:36.45 | Xho | superman |
| 11:37.26 | Monet | Actually I do wonder if it would make sense for a few to be reminiscent of Talos. |
| 11:37.47 | ImpyDroid | Monet: Having a lecture on British education ATMOSPHERE |
| 11:37.56 | ImpyDroid | *ATM |
| 11:38.07 | ImpyDroid | So... you have public schools but they are the exact opposite of public |
| 11:38.26 | Monet | It's a relic term. |
| 11:39.02 | Monet | I think the idea was these schools were not exclusive to the aristocracy. Then a state-funded school system was established. |
| 11:39.14 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/14238263_611169552389274_5773040253260985851_n.png?oh=84dd4e44da5e5dff4062ed18690c337f&oe=587DB5B6 |
| 11:39.49 | Monet | No wait I remember |
| 11:40.17 | Monet | The name "public school" I think comes from how they were originally a form of more secular education. |
| 11:41.00 | Monet | You didn't need to have a religious, guild- or trade-based background to get in, hence "public" |
| 11:41.14 | ImpyDroid | Right |
| 11:43.19 | Monet | But because they weren't backed by guilds or the church, they had to fund themselves some other way. |
| 11:43.36 | ImpyDroid | Also what is that with British usage of the word "fag" |
| 11:43.53 | ImpyDroid | You use it for like everything |
| 11:44.14 | Monet | That one has more of an enigma. But I've heard it has three particular origins |
| 11:44.15 | Xho | Mostly cigarettes though |
| 11:44.30 | ImpyDroid | >Dragon School |
| 11:44.37 | ImpyDroid | That sounds pretty awesome |
| 11:44.51 | Monet | I hear it's a derogatory term for public school kids who act as dogsbodies for older students. |
| 11:44.58 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 11:45.36 | Monet | In public school if you as a student are some older kid's "fag" you're their servant essentially. |
| 11:48.55 | Monet | Here in Britain "gay" instantly becomes an insult if you say it harshly |
| 11:50.24 | Monet | Hard to explain because its all about the tone of voice. Though adding the f-word as a prefix is a more tone-neutral way of using it as an insult. |
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| 11:51.30 | Monet | Hi |
| 11:51.34 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 11:53.36 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:55.03 | Monet | "This fucking car" = This car isn't doesn't working properly and it's getting on my nerves how it is playing up. |
| 11:57.57 | Xho | ups |
| 11:58.12 | Xho | OluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Akkani hoog bots |
| 11:58.29 | OluapPlayer | The hell is up with their size |
| 11:58.58 | Xho | They're designed to uplift planets |
| 11:59.15 | Xho | So they're basically massive spaceships in the shape of a robot |
| 11:59.20 | Wormy_ | Monet, Ghelae, Liquid_Ink: Worst. First Contact Scnenario. Ever. https://vimeo.com/176787869 |
| 12:00.09 | ImpyDroid | Xhi: *ANIME INTENSIFIES* |
| 12:00.16 | Xho | i don't get it |
| 12:00.21 | ImpyDroid | Giant robots |
| 12:00.27 | Xho | I still don't get it |
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| 12:00.59 | OluapPlayer | It's an oversized mech |
| 12:01.00 | ImpyDroid | Giant robots are a very anime thing |
| 12:01.10 | OluapPlayer | Anime has a bunch of those |
| 12:01.13 | ImpyDroid | Make them transform or combine or something |
| 12:01.21 | Xho | why tho |
| 12:01.43 | OluapPlayer | Don't pretend you don't know something this simple |
| 12:01.55 | Xho | Well I got the anime mechs thing |
| 12:02.03 | Xho | I just don't know why they should transform |
| 12:02.06 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: Remember that Xho is a filthy normie |
| 12:02.16 | Xho | They're terraforming devices, not combat mechs |
| 12:02.25 | ImpyDroid | Mechas in anime can often change shape and/or combine |
| 12:02.25 | Xho | terraforming precursor machine race even |
| 12:02.34 | ImpyDroid | Actually them transforming would make a lot of sense |
| 12:02.43 | Xho | No it really wouldn't pls stop |
| 12:03.08 | ImpyDroid | Transforming into some station or ship for easier Terra forming |
| 12:03.44 | Xho | Well they do possess the necessary technology to be spacefaring |
| 12:03.55 | Xho | Otherwise they wouldn't be very good at their job of giving life to planets |
| 12:04.20 | Xho | And they all probably came from a megaconstruct that stored them almost like a library |
| 12:04.27 | Xho | Couldn't imagine how big that would be |
| 12:04.33 | Xho | Planet sized probably |
| 12:05.39 | Xho | There was probably another hierarchy of Akkani as well that monitored the body-shaped lot |
| 12:05.47 | Xho | In a different shape |
| 12:08.17 | DrodoEmpire | ~seen dino82_ |
| 12:08.21 | infobot | dino82_ <52b0ddef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.176.221.239> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 1d 20h 1m 5s ago, saying: 'so the wikia is quite quiet haha :d'. |
| 12:08.33 | DrodoEmpire | darn |
| 12:16.04 | Wormy_ | Xho, OluapPlayer, Technobliterator: I've focused on DCP involvement in the Tigris War http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Recent_works#Birth_of_the_Gigaquadrant.3B_2754_to_2759_.28686_to_690_ACS.29.3B_Milky_Way.2C_Andromeda_and_Tigris |
| 12:16.19 | Technobliterator | :o |
| 12:16.20 | Technobliterator | nice |
| 12:16.26 | Wormy_ | Some of its uncertain, of course, until the Tigris War is ironed out |
| 12:17.55 | OluapPlayer | Interesting |
| 12:19.27 | Wormy_ | Basically this event turned the DCP into what it became http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Scrapbook#WoA_draft_1_-_Total_war |
| 12:30.36 | Xho | Zhulultu - get rekt bugs |
| 12:32.34 | ImpyDroid | Xho: What would be the sacred number for Santo? |
| 12:32.51 | Xho | 5 |
| 12:33.22 | Xho | Krath's is 8, Angazhar's is 7 |
| 12:33.27 | Xho | Draguros' is 9 |
| 12:34.23 | Xho | Or all of them are 0 I dunno |
| 12:36.16 | Xho | I dunno why it would be Santorakh related bots when the Zhulultu were 100% order or death |
| 12:36.58 | Xho | Goes against their trope |
| 12:45.43 | ImpyDroid | Xho: The way I imagined it, they were Zhulultu bots that were later abandoned and replicated by another race |
| 12:45.53 | ImpyDroid | Against whom they rebelled |
| 12:49.19 | Xho | Zhulultu - dum dums |
| 12:57.11 | Monet | Xho: I got thinking the DI (or at least a few aristocrats) may desire a working relationship with the Nijusi Syndicate. |
| 12:57.28 | Xho | "good luck lol" - Tuuros Galaxy |
| 12:58.28 | Xho | Eh could work but they'd have to be careful that Nijusi doesn't swindle them |
| 12:58.42 | Ghelae | ImpyDroid: Do you have any preference for a year when humans had first contact with the Sanctuarian Radeons, or should I make one up? |
| 12:59.26 | Monet | Draconis - We operate one of the economic nexi of the Gigaquadrant. He can try. |
| 13:00.09 | Xho | Nijusi - but how would you know if i did |
| 13:03.41 | Monet | Draconis - Well for one we're almost a corportocracy ourselves. |
| 13:04.57 | Monet | Draconis - How would you know we're not ripping you off? |
| 13:09.09 | Xho | Nijusi - im 3000 years old i kno a ripoff when i see it |
| 13:09.59 | Monet | Draconis - We have the Millennials. Space-Google them. |
| 13:10.24 | Monet | Like any good investor I imagine the DI's economic leaders would perform a ridiculously meticulous amount of research before approaching the Syndicate with any offers. |
| 13:11.07 | Wormy_ | Xho: Is the Xhodocto Eye on Earth still a canon thing? |
| 13:13.04 | ImpyDroid | Ghelae: Nah, no real preference |
| 13:14.12 | Ghelae | makes up a year |
| 13:15.51 | Monet | Xho: Hmm thinking about it a dynamic DI-NjS rivalry/working partnership could have some spice to it. |
| 13:16.06 | Wormy_ | The reaspon I ask is because we'e thinking of setting the abandonment of Earth as a consequence of the Radeon and Thal invasion |
| 13:16.20 | Wormy_ | Something like the Eye would be needed to make Earth a no-go zone |
| 13:16.36 | Wormy_ | Otherwise it would become a symbol of human victory and wouldn't be abandoned |
| 13:16.55 | OluapPlayer | The Eye is canon, it's this one http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain%3AEkthrikos |
| 13:17.06 | OluapPlayer | His page is empty for some reason but he's a servant of Angazhar |
| 13:17.35 | Ghelae | Any suggestions for the name of the first human ship to visit Alpha Centauri? |
| 13:18.00 | Wormy_ | I'm thinking it, or something like it, gets tampered with during the war by humans or Radeon |
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| 13:19.51 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 13:19.51 | OluapPlayer | little dong man |
| 13:19.55 | Ghelae | Hi |
| 13:19.55 | Monet | Hi |
| 13:20.04 | Hachiman | STUPID BOY |
| 13:20.16 | OluapPlayer | u cannot defeat me |
| 13:20.46 | Ghelae | Hachiman: Do you have any suggestions for the name of the first human ship to visit Alpha Centauri and make contact with the Radeons? |
| 13:21.00 | OluapPlayer | Qwib-Qwib |
| 13:21.06 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
| 13:21.17 | ImpyDroid | Ghelae: Since we discussed that yesterday |
| 13:21.18 | ImpyDroid | Harambee |
| 13:21.21 | Hachiman | What nation was the human settlers? |
| 13:21.46 | Ghelae | ImpyDroid: I was waiting for someone to make that suggestion. |
| 13:21.50 | Wormy_ | Name it Baxter, because he wroe a great book about colonising a planet of Proxima |
| 13:22.15 | Hachiman | Well I wanna know the nation so it's appropriate but Baxter is one suggestion |
| 13:23.05 | Ghelae | Europe and Japan both had primitive warp drives prior to WWIII, so they might be the first ones to send out an exploration ship equipped with one of the new, reliable warp drives. |
| 13:23.23 | Ghelae | Otherwise, I'd guess the Fjord League and POTATO are in the running for it too. |
| 13:23.51 | Ghelae | Possibly France, but if that were the case I should ask Charles. |
| 13:24.01 | Hachiman | Yeah let's not go with France hur |
| 13:24.28 | Monet | Well France wasn't dealing with uprisings inside its borders |
| 13:24.29 | Ghelae | Looking at France's page, they weren't influential until the Intercolonial Wars. |
| 13:26.02 | ImpyDroid | Harambee-class "Baxter"? |
| 13:26.11 | ImpyDroid | Or Baxter-class "Harambee"? |
| 13:26.13 | OluapPlayer | Don't put memes in the thing please |
| 13:26.16 | Hachiman | >implying Africans had space travel |
| 13:26.27 | Hachiman | >implying Africans will ever have space travel |
| 13:26.34 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: Harambee is a very common motto |
| 13:26.46 | OluapPlayer | Don't give me that, you're just doing it for the meme |
| 13:26.50 | ImpyDroid | It means "Pull together" |
| 13:26.50 | Ghelae | Going by what's on the European Star Republic page, "The warp drive had been distributed to all spacefaring countries and allowed the Republic to evolve into the Star Republic", which implies that a) Europe didn't invent it and b) whoever did invent it was willing to freely share it. |
| 13:26.54 | Monet | Yes but this Harambe thing has gone on for far too long. |
| 13:27.08 | Wormy_ | Gorilla memes need to die |
| 13:27.18 | Wormy_ | shoot dead the meme |
| 13:27.21 | Hachiman | If I recall it was Japan or something that developed the first warp drives |
| 13:27.23 | Monet | Whatever happened to silently remembering the fallen? |
| 13:27.26 | Hachiman | And then they distributed to Europe |
| 13:27.36 | Hachiman | Monet: We got out dicks out instead |
| 13:27.51 | ImpyDroid | Alrighty |
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| 13:28.05 | OluapPlayer | ~punch Cyrannian |
| 13:28.05 | infobot | ACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyrannian right on the nose |
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| 13:28.14 | Cyrannian | ~slap OluapPlayer |
| 13:28.14 | infobot | ACTION slaps OluapPlayer, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 13:28.14 | Ghelae | Japan were some of the earliest, with the very earliest being held by British nationalists who later formed the New Britannic Commonwealth. |
| 13:28.16 | Ghelae | Hi |
| 13:28.21 | Wormy_ | b) could just be stolen |
| 13:28.23 | OluapPlayer | waptor pls get active |
| 13:28.23 | ImpyDroid | Alrighty |
| 13:28.48 | Ghelae | So we could have it as a Japanese ship. |
| 13:29.10 | ImpyDroid | As for the name |
| 13:29.16 | Hachiman | I was thinking European or British myself |
| 13:29.26 | ImpyDroid | "Cameron" suddenly sprang to mind |
| 13:29.31 | Hachiman | No hur |
| 13:29.31 | Ghelae | Looking at POTATO's page, it certainly can't be them, although there is a continuity problem there: |
| 13:29.43 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: As in James Cameron |
| 13:29.44 | Ghelae | "POTATO organized the colonization of the Alpha Centauri and Sigma Draconis systems in 2314. In Alpha Centauri, POTATO established contact with the native Centaurians... |
| 13:29.50 | Ghelae | "...who would initially resist POTATO expansion into their system but ultimately agreed to join POTATO in exchange for some political autonomy from the central Treaty Organization government." |
| 13:29.50 | Monet | Hachiman: The Runnymede used a prototype developed between the US and Britain. |
| 13:29.54 | Wormy_ | Battleship ba-ku-su-ta-san |
| 13:30.02 | Hachiman | Battleship Yamato hur |
| 13:30.15 | Ghelae | If it were a European ship, it could be the Fjord League. |
| 13:30.18 | Monet | Unless earth nations turn socialist after WWIII I can't really see any inventor simply "giving" the warp drive tech away. Maybe "distributed" meant sold? |
| 13:30.28 | Wormy_ | The Fjord League were booming at the time |
| 13:30.29 | ImpyDroid | Sanctuarium was inspired by Avatar |
| 13:30.33 | ImpyDroid | Avatar |
| 13:30.34 | ImpyDroid | Cameron |
| 13:30.35 | Hachiman | But in seriousness, give it to Europe / Britain and as for name suggestions, the Alighieri, the Cervantes, the Kingdom Brunel, the Beagle |
| 13:30.46 | Hachiman | I'll come up with some Scandinavian names in a moment |
| 13:30.49 | Monet | Remember Zefram Cochrane's amin motive for inventing the warp drive: Money. |
| 13:30.54 | Wormy_ | Fjord League has British peple in it |
| 13:31.02 | ImpyDroid | Vinland-class? |
| 13:31.08 | Wormy_ | ^^^ |
| 13:31.17 | Hachiman | Vinland-class sounds nice |
| 13:31.40 | ImpyDroid | Vinland-class Cervantes |
| 13:32.12 | Monet | "European Interstellar Colony Ship I" |
| 13:32.16 | Hachiman | Vinland-class "Ragnar" / "Lodbrok" |
| 13:32.23 | Hachiman | Or "Ragnar Lodbrok" |
| 13:32.26 | Wormy_ | The Fjord League had recovered quickly in many ways thanks to global warming, using Greenland as a resource and spreading across the world their geoeinegineering and humanitarian efforts after the third world war |
| 13:32.33 | Wormy_ | They were also friendly with Russia |
| 13:32.46 | Ghelae | Monet: The warp drive might not have been given away for free, but nuclear weapons aren't sold on the open market either. |
| 13:32.57 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: That is a bit too Scandinavian |
| 13:32.58 | Monet | There's an observatory called the European Very Large Telescope after all. |
| 13:33.10 | Hachiman | Well Ragnar Lodbrok was a Viking so |
| 13:33.13 | Monet | Ghelae: No they're sold via private agreements. |
| 13:33.14 | Hachiman | And also an explorer |
| 13:33.19 | ImpyDroid | True that |
| 13:33.28 | ImpyDroid | "Gagarin" |
| 13:33.34 | ImpyDroid | A bit generic but still |
| 13:33.42 | Hachiman | After the cosmonaut? |
| 13:33.53 | Hachiman | I think giving it a Viking name would be appropriate considering that they were naval explorers |
| 13:33.59 | ImpyDroid | >THE cosmonaur |
| 13:34.00 | Ghelae | Monet: My point simply being that it has to be a nation willing to sell advanced technology with military applications to various other nations. |
| 13:34.01 | Hachiman | nautical, even |
| 13:34.04 | ImpyDroid | *cosmonaut |
| 13:34.13 | Wormy_ | As Greenland warmed it became a great agricultural belt as well as exposing significant energy and mineral resources |
| 13:34.15 | ImpyDroid | Not just the cosmonaut, THE cosmonaut |
| 13:34.20 | Monet | Ghelae: Well yeah. |
| 13:34.24 | ImpyDroid | And THE space Explorer |
| 13:34.38 | ImpyDroid | Zheng He? |
| 13:34.42 | Wormy_ | So the Fjords are a good candidate |
| 13:34.43 | Monet | Or we could go libertarian and have the warp drive be invented by some private company. |
| 13:34.43 | ImpyDroid | Could be a cool mix |
| 13:34.50 | ImpyDroid | ^ |
| 13:34.58 | Wormy_ | Elon Musk Drive |
| 13:34.58 | ImpyDroid | "Vinland-class Zheng He" |
| 13:35.05 | Hachiman | Eh sounds a bit polarizing |
| 13:35.17 | ImpyDroid | As in? |
| 13:35.29 | Wormy_ | Doesn't roll off the tongue |
| 13:35.50 | Hachiman | >Fjord League, Viking-inspired class name >Chinese individual name |
| 13:35.59 | Hachiman | Vinland-class Ironside |
| 13:36.09 | Hachiman | After Bjorn Ironside |
| 13:36.12 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: It could be an interesting mix |
| 13:36.14 | Monet | The Mohammed Li of the space travel world. |
| 13:36.32 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Ironside sounds cool |
| 13:36.34 | Hachiman | Except I don't think the Fjord League has anything to do with China hur |
| 13:36.48 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: could be a joint project |
| 13:36.54 | Ghelae | This is one of the earliest exploration ships, so it might not be part of a class, so it could just be the Vinland. |
| 13:36.59 | ImpyDroid | I imagine early space exploration involved a lot of cooperation |
| 13:37.05 | Wormy_ | It could be a Chinese man living in the Fjord League I guess |
| 13:37.06 | Hachiman | China was being dicks at the time |
| 13:37.42 | Hachiman | So yeah, I'd call it either the Vinland or one of the names I suggested |
| 13:37.48 | Hachiman | And give it to the Fjord League |
| 13:37.48 | Monet | China was being dicks, Europe and American weren't friends, Euraspact I'm not sure and no one paid any interest to Africa. |
| 13:37.53 | Wormy_ | Hachi: The Texan Republic and Yamato iought to have battled over Titan |
| 13:38.04 | Hachiman | hur |
| 13:38.46 | Monet | The Musk Drive has a nice ring to it but sounds questionable. |
| 13:38.52 | ImpyDroid | The Vinland could work |
| 13:39.09 | Hachiman | The Musk Drive sounds like a furry thing |
| 13:39.16 | OluapPlayer | ew |
| 13:39.32 | Wormy_ | I think we also ought to have Shawyer [EM] drives |
| 13:39.41 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: RELEASE POWER MUSK |
| 13:39.50 | ImpyDroid | NOW BACK TO FURRY FORCE ON FOX KIDS |
| 13:39.52 | Hachiman | ech |
| 13:40.03 | ImpyDroid | Come on it was funny |
| 13:40.27 | Monet | Furry Force sounds like a Power Rangers instalment. |
| 13:40.28 | Hachiman | It was but goddamn those videos made me feel ech |
| 13:40.38 | Hachiman | Like genuinely sick |
| 13:40.44 | ImpyDroid | Monet: Google it |
| 13:40.49 | ImpyDroid | If you are brave |
| 13:40.55 | Ghelae | Vinland, Alighieri, Cervantes, Kingdom Brunel, Beagle, Vinland, Ragnar, Lodbrok, Ragnar Lodbrok, Ironside... |
| 13:41.02 | Monet | Impydroid: Yeah I'd rather not. |
| 13:41.19 | Monet | Eriksson? |
| 13:41.52 | Wormy_ | Cnut |
| 13:41.52 | ImpyDroid | I am opposed to most Viking personal names |
| 13:41.59 | ImpyDroid | Just because I do not like Vikings hur |
| 13:42.07 | Wormy_ | >:( |
| 13:42.15 | OluapPlayer | pleb taste |
| 13:42.18 | ImpyDroid | There I said it |
| 13:42.19 | Wormy_ | Very proud of my Viking ancestors |
| 13:42.28 | Hachiman | To be fair, they did conquer the Slavs so Imp is bound to be jealous |
| 13:42.36 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Excuse me |
| 13:42.39 | Cyrannian | Back |
| 13:42.43 | ImpyDroid | Rurik was not a conqueror |
| 13:42.50 | OluapPlayer | waptor get active pls |
| 13:42.52 | Hachiman | Oh, sorry, the Slavs invited the Vikings in because they couldn't rule themselves |
| 13:42.59 | ImpyDroid | Excuse me |
| 13:43.04 | ImpyDroid | Novgorod |
| 13:43.21 | Monet | For a minute there I thought Imp was mad because he's mostly Korean. |
| 13:43.29 | Wormy_ | I have a warrior ancestor who ruled over Northumbria, and later Cumberland |
| 13:43.39 | ImpyDroid | Quite funny to hear that of you whose ancestors were regularly raped by Viking raiders |
| 13:43.48 | ImpyDroid | As for the knyazes |
| 13:43.48 | Hachiman | kek |
| 13:44.07 | ImpyDroid | Let me remind you that in early Russian history they were largely military leaders |
| 13:44.13 | Monet | Wormy_: You should contact the MPs of those areas and declare their king has returned. |
| 13:44.20 | Hachiman | I mean, at least it wasn't tiny dong Japanese war veterans |
| 13:44.25 | Wormy_ | I won't mention because then you might work out my surname |
| 13:44.26 | ImpyDroid | And self-governance was a thing, especially in Novgorod which was a republic |
| 13:44.31 | ImpyDroid | Dude fuck you |
| 13:44.34 | ImpyDroid | I fucking respect you |
| 13:44.41 | Hachiman | Oh come on, I'm playing |
| 13:44.44 | Cyrannian | dis is strange |
| 13:44.52 | ImpyDroid | I fucking apologise every time I wrong you and do not touch things you hold dear |
| 13:45.03 | ImpyDroid | Do I ever get any fucking respect from you? |
| 13:45.05 | ImpyDroid | Never |
| 13:45.07 | Wormy_ | Monet: I plan on doing so, there must be some ancient document somewhere |
| 13:45.10 | OluapPlayer | Enough |
| 13:45.11 | Monet | ImpyDroid: Relax Hachi was just mucking about. |
| 13:45.13 | OluapPlayer | Stop overreacting |
| 13:45.15 | Hachiman | Dude, really, I was just teasing |
| 13:45.21 | Hachiman | I'm sorry if I touched a nerve |
| 13:45.48 | Wormy_ | Monet: In more recent history by Russian line of ancestors owned a forest in Russia |
| 13:45.48 | ImpyDroid | It is just that this joke is getting old |
| 13:45.51 | Wormy_ | *my |
| 13:45.54 | ImpyDroid | And has very little basis in reality |
| 13:46.11 | Ghelae | I would think Erikson is arguably the most appropriate Viking name to go for. Beagle also makes sense in that it participated in exploration, but it's most famous for the biological discoveries of Darwin, while the trip to Santuarium might not have been expecting to find aliens. |
| 13:46.18 | OluapPlayer | And you're gonna throw a fit over it |
| 13:46.27 | ImpyDroid | He did worse |
| 13:46.30 | ImpyDroid | He did far worse with me |
| 13:46.45 | ImpyDroid | He caused shitstorms and then blamed me for them |
| 13:46.58 | Wormy_ | This isn't going anywhere |
| 13:47.00 | Hachiman | I thought this was water under the bridge |
| 13:47.10 | Hachiman | You made a Saxon rape comment so I retorted with a Samurai rape comment |
| 13:47.22 | Hachiman | I was just playing |
| 13:47.36 | ImpyDroid | I cannot fucking watch anything DC-related now because I just feel depressed whenever that happens |
| 13:47.49 | ImpyDroid | Yeah it is okay |
| 13:47.51 | ImpyDroid | Alright |
| 13:47.52 | Xho | Wormy_: Not sure if the Eye is still on Earth |
| 13:47.53 | Xho | Probably not |
| 13:48.08 | Hachiman | I thought the Eye was on Koldenwelt |
| 13:48.15 | ImpyDroid | Different eye hyr |
| 13:48.16 | OluapPlayer | He's talking about Ekthrikos |
| 13:48.16 | ImpyDroid | *hur |
| 13:48.18 | Xho | r u dum blud |
| 13:48.21 | Monet | Ethilekros u dumbo. |
| 13:48.28 | Xho | is evrywun dum heer |
| 13:48.32 | Cyrannian | brb |
| 13:48.33 | Hachiman | yee |
| 13:48.44 | Xho | Xhodocto Eyes came before Koldenweltian Eyes |
| 13:48.55 | Hachiman | Anyway, Eriksson is another good name to go for |
| 13:49.07 | Monet | Yey |
| 13:49.15 | Xho | also wtf is going on |
| 13:49.17 | Hachiman | Erikson, rather |
| 13:49.18 | ImpyDroid | I vote nay for reasons stated above |
| 13:49.26 | ImpyDroid | Just personal preference |
| 13:50.05 | Monet | Xho: We're naming the ship that took humans to the land of blue pussy. |
| 13:50.05 | Hachiman | I vote for a Scandinavian / Fennoscandian name because I feel it's cultural appropriation |
| 13:50.12 | Xho | wut |
| 13:50.16 | Hachiman | *culturally appropriate fucvk |
| 13:50.17 | Hachiman | fuck |
| 13:50.19 | Xho | so much wut |
| 13:50.33 | ImpyDroid | Fennoscandian |
| 13:50.36 | ImpyDroid | Sampo? |
| 13:50.38 | Xho | Erikson works I guess |
| 13:50.48 | Hachiman | Fennoscandian: countries on the Scandinavian Peninsula |
| 13:50.56 | Hachiman | Meaning Sweden, Norway, and Finland |
| 13:51.02 | Xho | Although in Old Norse it's Eriksson |
| 13:51.09 | Xho | Eiriksson even |
| 13:51.21 | Monet | Missed by one letter. |
| 13:51.49 | ImpyDroid | Väinämöinen? |
| 13:52.24 | Ghelae | ImpyDroid: On a different part of the timeline, are the Fendrassi descended from colonists from Earth? That puts the first intergalactic colonisation over 300 years earlier than I thought, but conveniently allows me to use "intergalactic age" instead of "post-Terran age"? |
| 13:52.45 | Hachiman | So, are we going with Vinland-class "Erikson"? |
| 13:52.48 | Monet | The native Centarans could have found Simo Häyhä more apt lol. |
| 13:53.09 | Wormy_ | I vote for that. |
| 13:53.22 | ImpyDroid | Ghelae: Well they just kind of got into a wormhole |
| 13:53.38 | Monet | The Vinland-class Eiriksson works for me. |
| 13:53.45 | ImpyDroid | It was a one-of-a-kind emergency escape |
| 13:54.27 | Ghelae | Good enough for me. |
| 13:54.54 | Ghelae | Actually, on second thoughts, I'll come up with another name for "post-Terran age". |
| 13:55.10 | Ghelae | As for the ship, I've currently called it the "Vinland", but can change it to "Erikson" easily enough. |
| 13:56.45 | Ghelae | It is worth pointing out that the out-of-universe purpose of this ship is to make contact with Imp's fiction. |
| 13:57.15 | Monet | The Columbus! |
| 13:57.19 | Ghelae | Hence I'm not planning to immediately disregard his feelings on its name. |
| 13:57.23 | ImpyDroid | ^I vote this because fuck Vikings plz |
| 13:57.38 | ImpyDroid | Though if the rest want Erikson then why not |
| 13:58.14 | Ghelae | Calling a ship the Columbus would result in a lot of people complaining that it's historically inaccurate and should really be called the Erikson. |
| 13:58.51 | Wormy_ | We all like Vikings because we think they were cool |
| 13:59.00 | Wormy_ | They might have raped us, but we love them |
| 13:59.08 | ImpyDroid | They were cool yeah but they did not, well, build that much |
| 13:59.09 | Wormy_ | They ruled you nicely, yet you hate them |
| 13:59.17 | Ghelae | That's just Stockholm Syndrome. :P |
| 13:59.36 | Wormy_ | Anyway lets not get into arguments over very old history |
| 13:59.37 | ImpyDroid | I think the Mongols or the Arabs are cooler because they built an empir |
| 13:59.39 | ImpyDroid | Or Roman's |
| 13:59.51 | ImpyDroid | Romans even |
| 13:59.59 | Wormy_ | Vikings were impressive what they did though |
| 14:00.00 | ImpyDroid | Or Persians |
| 14:00.12 | Hachiman | Columbus should not be celebrated |
| 14:00.16 | Hachiman | He was a genocidal tyrant |
| 14:00.17 | Wormy_ | And hard |
| 14:00.20 | Hachiman | He murdered Native Americans |
| 14:00.30 | ImpyDroid | He did not really murder that many himself now did he |
| 14:00.32 | Hachiman | I don't think we should grace him with a name |
| 14:00.35 | Wormy_ | Yeahm, Vikings traded wqith them |
| 14:01.17 | Monet | HAchiman: I was joking. |
| 14:01.46 | ImpyDroid | Hm |
| 14:01.48 | ImpyDroid | The Maelstrom |
| 14:01.53 | Ghelae | A Fjord Leage ship perhaps should be named after a Scandinavian or a Brit, unless the point is to be all international with the name (in which case why stop at Spain? That line of thinking brings us back to the Zheng He). |
| 14:01.57 | Monet | Humans come to Pandora and fuck everything up, just like old daddy Columbus. |
| 14:01.57 | ImpyDroid | That is Scandinavian enough |
| 14:02.05 | Hachiman | The Jormungandr |
| 14:02.17 | ImpyDroid | Hell yeah let us go with something mythology |
| 14:02.26 | Hachiman | I mean we could |
| 14:02.28 | ImpyDroid | Jormungandr works but a bit too hard to pronounce |
| 14:02.30 | Hachiman | But it'd be the easy way out |
| 14:02.32 | ImpyDroid | Fenryr? |
| 14:02.55 | Hachiman | Considering Fenrir and Jormungandr are creatures of Ragnarok that cause mass death and destruction |
| 14:02.59 | Hachiman | I'm gonna say no hur |
| 14:03.14 | ImpyDroid | Hm |
| 14:03.22 | ImpyDroid | What was the name of Odin's raven? |
| 14:03.27 | Hachiman | He had two |
| 14:03.33 | ImpyDroid | Either |
| 14:03.47 | Hachiman | Muninn and Huginn |
| 14:03.52 | ImpyDroid | Muninn |
| 14:03.55 | ImpyDroid | There we go |
| 14:04.30 | Ghelae | Ought to be twin ships. One is the Muninn and the other is the Huginn. |
| 14:04.32 | ImpyDroid | Or we could cop out and go for a number |
| 14:04.42 | ImpyDroid | Interstellar Ship 001 |
| 14:05.08 | Hachiman | Twin ships could be interesting |
| 14:05.16 | Ghelae | Sleipnir might be better. It's a warp-capable ship, so it's faster than any previous vessel. |
| 14:05.21 | Hachiman | Ooh yeah |
| 14:05.24 | Monet | ImpyDroid: WOrks for space stations and observatories |
| 14:05.26 | ImpyDroid | YES! |
| 14:05.30 | ImpyDroid | Sleipnir |
| 14:05.37 | ImpyDroid | Actually model it after it |
| 14:05.50 | ImpyDroid | Give it eight wings or thrusters or something |
| 14:05.52 | Hachiman | Eight thrusters hur |
| 14:06.03 | ImpyDroid | Fucking ninjad |
| 14:06.11 | Ghelae | Still Vinland-class? |
| 14:06.20 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 14:06.30 | Hachiman | Vinland-class "Sleipnir" |
| 14:06.35 | ImpyDroid | ^ |
| 14:06.38 | Monet | Tha't what got me. Russia's first space station was called "peace", China's creating a range of space stations that translate to "heavenly palace". The largest at the moment? "International Space Station" |
| 14:06.52 | ImpyDroid | Monet" "Peace" or "world" |
| 14:07.10 | ImpyDroid | The double meaning is relevant here |
| 14:09.05 | Monet | Yeah but that's what got me thinking |
| 14:09.35 | Monet | The current trend is when a construction project goes international, meaningful names go out the window. |
| 14:09.52 | Monet | In favour of some really bland but functional name. |
| 14:11.49 | Xho | slupnur |
| 14:12.23 | ImpyDroid | "SLP-N1R" |
| 14:13.22 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 14:13.38 | Wormy_ | I just wish China and Russia would built their lunar colonies already and space mining companies start capturing asteroids |
| 14:14.03 | Wormy_ | We could even buid space elevators on the Moon now, out of kevlar |
| 14:15.44 | *** join/#sporewiki ImpyDroid2 (~Anders@95.140.92.43) |
| 14:16.59 | ImpyDroid2 | cjxj |
| 14:18.08 | Wormy_ | bbl |
| 14:20.52 | ImpyDroid2 | Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/poCCGyth.jpg |
| 14:23.54 | Hachiman | "if a dead ancestor doesn't appear in the sky to stop me, it can't be that bad a decision" |
| 14:24.24 | ImpyDroid2 | ? |
| 14:24.38 | Xho | "Microsoft Edge" yeah alright i see your tricks |
| 14:25.30 | Monet | Xho: Edge - High, I'm Internet Exp- I mean Edge. |
| 14:25.54 | ImpyDroid2 | DrodoEmpire: "if Japan and Germany had won the war, then we wouldnt have idiots like you making all sorts of conspiracy theories that the Axis comitted crimes" |
| 14:26.09 | ImpyDroid2 | >conspiracy theories that the Axis comitted crimes |
| 14:26.40 | DrodoEmpire | o.O |
| 14:26.54 | ImpyDroid2 | Some hapanese nationalist |
| 14:26.56 | ImpyDroid2 | *Japanese |
| 14:27.03 | DrodoEmpire | Axis dindu nuffin |
| 14:27.10 | Wormy_away | The people you find and debate with |
| 14:27.32 | DrodoEmpire | *Has* to be some edgelord trying to get a rise out of you >.< |
| 14:27.42 | Wormy_away | Worst I've debated with on the internet are creationists and an anti-vaxxer |
| 14:27.49 | ImpyDroid2 | Not edgy, just Japanese |
| 14:27.53 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 14:28.12 | Hachiman | To be fair, the Japanese do write stuff out of their history books |
| 14:28.50 | ImpyDroid2 | Wormy_away: The worst thing is, it is not just on the Internet that I meet these people |
| 14:29.23 | Wormy_away | The said antivaxxer came to believe I was from Big Pharma come to troll them |
| 14:29.42 | ImpyDroid2 | I was friends with people with basically Neo-Nazi views |
| 14:29.58 | ImpyDroid2 | A few anarchists too |
| 14:30.02 | Wormy_away | Yeah I don't tend to hang out with any of that crowd |
| 14:30.13 | Wormy_away | I have hard left friends though |
| 14:30.20 | ImpyDroid2 | It is Russia, being intolerant is not that much of a taboo here |
| 14:30.52 | ImpyDroid2 | I went to summer camp and then people used to talk how their Neo-Nazi friends invited them to attack pride parades |
| 14:30.54 | Wormy_away | And also a skinhead friend, but he was in Skin Heads Against Racist People, or SHARP |
| 14:30.57 | Monet | Back when I was in Canterbury there was this young-earth creationist who talked every Wednesday afternoon. He once got into an argument with a Vicar. |
| 14:31.47 | Monet | He would hold some kind of speech in the city centre. |
| 14:32.19 | Wormy_away | This skinhead would basically get into a fight with racist skinheads. Unfortunately he gets wrongly accused in public as a fascist |
| 14:32.23 | ImpyDroid2 | That guy was crazy, but I will give him some slack - he is a teenager |
| 14:33.25 | ImpyDroid2 | Then I had that anarchist friend |
| 14:33.35 | Wormy_away | Right or Left anarchist? |
| 14:33.39 | ImpyDroid2 | Left |
| 14:34.09 | ImpyDroid2 | She preached about how we could achieve world peace if only we changed our mentality by dismantling the very idea of oppression |
| 14:34.34 | Monet | Pardon? |
| 14:35.11 | ImpyDroid2 | She basically argued that the very idea of an organised group like the nation or the state is divisive |
| 14:35.33 | Monet | Someone's been reading a lot of Karl Marx. |
| 14:36.04 | ImpyDroid2 | Maybe that but she is not your usual Russian commie |
| 14:37.21 | Monet | Well no. The USSR was still technically a dividing entity |
| 14:38.06 | Wormy_away | I've met and talked to various punks and crusties who were in the punk rock and DIY scene, went to protests, lllegal raves and so on back in the day |
| 14:38.36 | Wormy_away | they have hard left beliefs but are a lot more individualist and intelliogent than the modern progressive subculture |
| 14:39.17 | Wormy_away | they also tend to have a taste in art |
| 14:40.09 | Wormy_away | By intelligent I mean simply more proactive, interesting and thoughtful |
| 14:40.28 | Wormy_away | Not warring on Twitter |
| 14:40.43 | Wormy_away | and playing victim |
| 14:41.29 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 14:42.01 | Wormy_away | Yeah anti-establishment youth culture 70's to 90's was a lot more interesting than it is now |
| 14:43.49 | Monet | Nowadays it's mostly pampered teenagers who think Karl Marx was one of the most brilliant social commentators of the past 200 years. |
| 14:44.12 | DrodoEmpire | It helped that there were some real grievances back then too |
| 14:45.14 | Wormy_away | I've heard a lot of funny stories, like one person I know stole a policeman's hat and spray painted it pink to look like a nipple |
| 14:45.51 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 14:46.01 | Hachiman | What really made me change my mind about the 'vaping community' is that it is essentially another form of counter-culture |
| 14:48.23 | Monet | Those vapers who act superior because they use an e-cig yeah, they should look in a mirror. |
| 14:49.26 | Hachiman | I'm not fond of arrogant, in-your-face vapers but what they are doing is, in essence, another form of youthful self-expression that goes against established norms |
| 14:49.40 | Wormy_away | Never met a vaper, but I've see people vaping |
| 14:49.46 | Wormy_away | seen |
| 14:49.48 | Hachiman | I know a fair number of vapers |
| 14:49.54 | Monet | I had a flatmate who adopted e-cigs, he loved them. |
| 14:50.07 | Wormy_away | The subculture I'm most exposed to are crustioes and old punks |
| 14:50.21 | Hachiman | And I do know a large number of older adults who vape because it is supposedly a healthier alternative to smoking tobacco |
| 14:50.23 | Wormy_away | they're a bit tired now |
| 14:51.36 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah most people I know who vape are older and want to quit smoking |
| 14:51.54 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:51.54 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#BREAKING:_French_Diplomat_robbed_on_Imperial_Capital |
| 14:52.01 | Wormy_away | I don't want to vape simply because I don't want popcorn lung |
| 14:52.07 | Wormy_away | look it up |
| 14:52.33 | Monet | For a counter-cultural movement, e-cigarettes are a very diverse product when it comes to casings. |
| 14:53.58 | Wormy_away | Smart phone in the 29th century? Oh well, its hard to imagine what communications will be like then |
| 14:54.31 | Monet | They might have dropped the 'smart' bit. |
| 14:54.48 | Hachiman | I imagine that a smartphone in the 29th century is very different to a smartphone in the 21st century |
| 14:55.03 | Hachiman | But the term would still be applicable I imagine |
| 14:55.10 | DrodoEmpire | I figure |
| 14:55.18 | Wormy_away | This lifetime we could see smart devices replaced with a smart environment of an internet of things, wearable clothing, and then maybe brain-computer interfaces. And utility fog probably replaces all of that |
| 14:55.30 | DrodoEmpire | Meh, I don't know |
| 14:55.45 | Hachiman | It's very difficult to rob someone of their utility fog |
| 14:55.51 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not a big guy for speculative sci-fi, and I don't think the Drodo have too too much of that sorta thing anyway |
| 14:55.59 | Wormy_away | Alright |
| 14:56.12 | Wormy_away | Just saying, smartphones could disappear in our lifetimes |
| 14:56.23 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah they definitely could |
| 14:56.40 | DrodoEmpire | People thought the Communicator on TOS was a novel idea after all >.< |
| 14:56.52 | Wormy_away | and merge with everything-else becoming smart. I have this image of people tapping messages on random walls down the high street lol |
| 14:57.01 | Wormy_away | with the virtual interface following them |
| 14:57.07 | DrodoEmpire | Possibly, yeah |
| 14:58.59 | Monet | Hard to say what the future holds. |
| 14:59.40 | Monet | Though I've had one suggestion that sci-fi shouldn't always be future prediction. |
| 15:00.14 | Wormy_away | Especially when some of the stuff mentioned above could happen in our lifetimes, forget 29th century |
| 15:00.19 | Monet | As you're always going to get some holdover of the age - like how in the late 60s the Enterprise crew all wore sweaters. |
| 15:01.01 | *** join/#sporewiki Imperios (~Imperios@95.140.92.43) |
| 15:01.12 | Hachiman | I just imagined that it was too expensive to turn the heating on in the Enterprise so everyone made do with sweaters |
| 15:01.18 | Monet | ISS personnel tend to wear trousers, tucked t-shirts and baseball caps. |
| 15:01.34 | Wormy_away | Sci-fi is in many ways a projection of the known, into the unknown; or the unknown interfering with the known |
| 15:01.37 | DrodoEmpire | hachi: hur |
| 15:01.42 | Hachiman | It must get very drafty on the Enterprise when you're out in the cold, vast expanse of space |
| 15:02.07 | Ghelae | The vacuum of space, that place widely known for its windy drafts. |
| 15:02.12 | Hachiman | hur |
| 15:02.42 | Monet | Then when Trek returned we got the black onesies of TNG. |
| 15:03.07 | Wormy_away | Onesies did have a craze a couple of years ago |
| 15:03.10 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Actually I do sorta wonder what the uniforms of different SW countries are- me and Dino (Cyrannian also?) seem to be the only people to write about them |
| 15:03.28 | Monet | I've contemplated a little. |
| 15:03.44 | DrodoEmpire | (Drodo tend to design their uniforms after the styles popular between the mid 19th to the mid 20th centuries) |
| 15:04.01 | DrodoEmpire | (to use a rough human approximation) |
| 15:04.08 | Wormy_away | Some Grimbolsaurian uniforms are almost grimdark |
| 15:04.10 | Hachiman | I never really put too much thought into fashion statements |
| 15:04.16 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_away: ahh |
| 15:04.28 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo cops are among the best dressed in the gigaquadrant no doubt <.< |
| 15:04.45 | Monet | I made this a long time ago http://img02.deviantart.net/f117/i/2012/186/1/6/imperial_talon_navy___crewman_uniform_by_spacer176-d562giw.png |
| 15:05.01 | DrodoEmpire | Seems cool |
| 15:05.29 | Monet | Officers would wear something closer to navy dress uniforms. |
| 15:05.49 | DrodoEmpire | Makes sense |
| 15:06.36 | Monet | While admirals I went full commissar with long open trenchcoats. |
| 15:06.37 | DrodoEmpire | It depends a lot, but I bet rank is often displayed by dressings on the hat or things like tassels on the uniform |
| 15:07.15 | DrodoEmpire | (Different ranks of IDMP officers for example may have differently-coloured hat feathers, or differently-engraved plaques on their hat0 |
| 15:07.17 | DrodoEmpire | *) |
| 15:07.29 | DrodoEmpire | (They may also have the right to wear a sword) |
| 15:07.38 | Monet | http://img08.deviantart.net/796c/i/2014/253/7/d/formation_of_the_the_alcanti_triad_by_spacer176-d7yorp6.jpg in this Larnus wears his Lord-Admiral's uniform. |
| 15:07.50 | DrodoEmpire | Quite ornate |
| 15:09.37 | Monet | Looking back at this image it must be slightly bewildering to look at a Draocnid-friendly cocktail glass. |
| 15:09.57 | DrodoEmpire | hur yeah |
| 15:09.58 | Monet | Imagine their wine glasses. |
| 15:09.58 | Wormy_away | Lunarai Khan wears gear that looks like it came from the Boer Wars http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Lunarai_Khan.png |
| 15:10.12 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo - gud |
| 15:10.13 | Monet | You could probably drown someone in them. |
| 15:10.27 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 15:11.13 | Wormy_away | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Spore_2013-10-24_04-07-22.png |
| 15:11.27 | Wormy_away | Not sure why that DCP rebel colony is so low tech |
| 15:11.45 | DrodoEmpire | Could be a backwater |
| 15:12.35 | Wormy_away | Yes, perhaps a newly assimilated low tech world that is still rebelling |
| 15:13.16 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 15:13.19 | Monet | I think I was mostly inspired by Napoleonic-era naval dress for the officers. For crewmen I'd say...Star Trek: Enterprise? |
| 15:13.36 | Ghelae | Apparently he also took on cavalry: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/1d/Spore_2013-10-24_04-13-50.png/revision/latest?cb=20131026000241 |
| 15:14.04 | Wormy_away | They didn't stand a chance |
| 15:14.40 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo - ours would |
| 15:15.21 | Ghelae | There's a battle to write about for the GXS. |
| 15:15.35 | OluapPlayer | He's got guns for eyes |
| 15:16.51 | Wormy_away | He can also hop across spaceike seperations and jump into different points in time and space to snipe people instantly |
| 15:16.57 | Wormy_away | *spacelike |
| 15:17.16 | OluapPlayer | thats bullshit but I believe it |
| 15:17.32 | Ghelae | In other words, he goes FTL. |
| 15:17.33 | Xho | hashtag sporewiki |
| 15:17.41 | Wormy_away | Yes |
| 15:18.01 | OluapPlayer | sanic grimbo |
| 15:18.04 | OluapPlayer | GOTTA GO FAST |
| 15:18.14 | Wormy_away | The spaceship idea put in a suit. But it must be a pretty special to suit to penetrate hyperspace fog |
| 15:18.28 | Wormy_away | *special suit |
| 15:18.54 | Monet | Lunerai's engfagement reminds me of this http://img15.deviantart.net/492f/i/2013/020/0/f/knight_and_draconis_by_spacer176-d5s4yb0.jpg |
| 15:18.59 | Hachiman | I think I remember coming up with that idea |
| 15:19.02 | Ghelae | Over short distances fog shouldn't be too much of a hindrance. |
| 15:19.13 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://imgur.com/gallery/PeUtg |
| 15:19.18 | Wormy_away | It is indeed Hachi's idea |
| 15:19.28 | Hachiman | olol |
| 15:20.03 | Hachiman | Just gotta wonder how Lunarai can survive being accelerated to FTL speeds |
| 15:20.05 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: I'm still triggered by that 16th century armour with the 11th century weapons |
| 15:20.06 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 15:20.10 | Wormy_away | Despite an earlier history as a ruthless squasher of rebellion, he grows up to be a gentle leader compared to other DCP leaders |
| 15:20.24 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: I was young, new and stupid. |
| 15:20.29 | DrodoEmpire | I know I know |
| 15:20.35 | DrodoEmpire | Just joking XD |
| 15:21.12 | Wormy_away | Hachi: I think locally, he is travelling at normal speeds |
| 15:21.43 | Ghelae | Yes, just like any FTL. |
| 15:21.50 | Hachiman | Right |
| 15:21.55 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: Still, it's a frightening image. |
| 15:22.02 | Wormy_away | Spacetime around him is what shifts insansely |
| 15:22.34 | Hachiman | So, when Lunarai engages FTL, does that mean everything around him just slows down to a crawl? |
| 15:22.42 | Hachiman | Like, from his perception |
| 15:22.42 | Wormy_away | He probably needs enhanced processing power and senses to understand spacetime in four dimensions |
| 15:23.28 | Xho | needs a nvidia 1080 |
| 15:23.47 | Ghelae | If you're thinking of time dilation, that becomes infinite at the speed of light and imaginary at FTL speeds, which is one symptom of that fact that, when space and time are considered as part of a unified spacetime, faster-than-light speeds are geometrically nonsensical. |
| 15:23.54 | Wormy_away | I guess spacetime would look like a collection of moments, but with each angle having the percieved proper ordering of events, changing angle would appear to change the order of events |
| 15:24.21 | Wormy_away | I didn't describe that very well |
| 15:24.35 | Hachiman | Knowing DCP tech, Lunarai probably processes the power for his FTL abilities with a miniature black hole or an antimatter chamber somewhere in his armour |
| 15:25.03 | Ghelae | Antimatter, of course. The black holes are for shooting things with. |
| 15:25.50 | Monet | Antimatter is for thinking and seeing, black holes are for shooty-shooty-boom-boom |
| 15:26.48 | Ghelae | This, of course, implies that antimatter isn't a powerful enough weapon. |
| 15:27.34 | Hachiman | I think Lunarai would actually be fully capable of taking on a number of supernatural characters; he can move as exponentially fast as them at least by merit of being able to move at FTL speeds |
| 15:28.16 | Wormy_away | Quite possibly |
| 15:29.44 | Wormy_away | Brian Cox explains spacelike events https://youtu.be/6I9-lYeVP6o?t=1m3s |
| 15:30.26 | *** join/#sporewiki DrodoEmpire (2f36fa72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.47.54.250.114) |
| 15:30.33 | DrodoEmpire | Back >.< |
| 15:31.43 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman: in short, "H-HE'S FAST...!" |
| 15:32.47 | Wormy_away | Since time dilation would be infinite, there'd be no time or distance at all in Lunarai's perception of things |
| 15:33.09 | Ghelaway | That would be if he actually travelled at the speed of light. |
| 15:33.20 | Wormy_away | Oh right yes |
| 15:35.33 | Wormy_away | I don't know what it would be like. I have a two dimensional image of a spacetime diagram, which might be how he plans the strategy, but what it'd actually be like to move through spacetime at imaginary speeds, I don't know. What Brian Cox describes as different orders of events at different angles of interception might be something like it |
| 15:36.46 | Wormy_away | probably terrifying |
| 15:36.57 | Wormy_away | even for a Grimbolsaurian warlord |
| 15:37.11 | Wormy_away | "Fearful geometry" |
| 15:39.07 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/znTXike.jpg |
| 15:42.47 | *** join/#sporewiki Quark8 (49c685a7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.198.133.167) |
| 15:42.48 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 15:43.06 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 15:47.29 | Xho | Oh wow I nearly forgot about the Jovar |
| 15:48.05 | DrodoEmpire | Oh? |
| 15:49.39 | Xho | Ah so that's who Prussian Fool is on my friends list |
| 15:49.41 | Xho | I was wondering |
| 15:53.38 | Monet | I think that's Liquid Ink. |
| 15:53.51 | Xho | Liquid Ink is Liquid Ink |
| 15:54.20 | OluapPlayer | Check their past user names |
| 15:54.32 | Xho | >Jovar1 |
| 15:54.33 | Xho | c |
| 15:55.48 | Xho | We'd ought to do something with the Jovar like we did with the Sylit |
| 15:55.53 | Xho | Sylits |
| 15:55.57 | Xho | I dunno what the plural is |
| 15:56.41 | OluapPlayer | Jovar are shared fiction now afaik |
| 15:56.44 | OluapPlayer | Part of humanity |
| 15:56.53 | Xho | absolutely haram af |
| 15:58.32 | Xho | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/c6/Kormacvar_Original.png/revision/latest?cb=20160803155014 I do not remember this |
| 15:58.56 | OluapPlayer | step ur memory up senpai |
| 15:59.13 | Xho | It looks demonic tho |
| 15:59.56 | OluapPlayer | I'd not say that |
| 16:00.14 | OluapPlayer | It looks weird but not like a demon hur |
| 16:00.44 | Xho | "GOD LEFT ME UNFINISHED" - Arkarixus, 2785 |
| 16:01.50 | OluapPlayer | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/60/Arkarixus.png/revision/latest?cb=20160401005835 "no" - Arkarixus, 2815 |
| 16:02.25 | Xho | icy |
| 16:07.06 | Wormy_away | Half my IRC screen vanished |
| 16:07.15 | Wormy_away | What is this laptop doing |
| 16:07.27 | Wormy_away | Back now |
| 16:07.35 | Hachiman | Xho: https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/14184378_1076226402426155_7638080416478542110_n.jpg?oh=cd6467f6989752ab0f46917532460ef8&oe=5847194D |
| 16:08.33 | OluapPlayer | GOOD OL' RUB |
| 16:09.17 | Wormy_away | I also wonder who Prussisn Fool is |
| 16:09.42 | Wormy_away | Oh its Jovar |
| 16:10.51 | Hachiman | I wonder how Jovar is doing |
| 16:11.03 | Wormy_away | I think he visited us once this year |
| 16:11.10 | Wormy_away | ~seen Jovar1 |
| 16:11.15 | infobot | jovar1 <82a09a5c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.160.154.92> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 314d 11h 52m 21s ago, saying: '(And only 2 more weeks 'til Fallout 4 :S)'. |
| 16:11.34 | Hachiman | Xho: On all levels except physical, I am a hamster |
| 16:12.11 | Wormy_away | Drodo: Have you pursued joining Sagan 4 wiki any further? |
| 16:12.50 | Wormy_away | Sagan 4 is where the founding SporeWiki community went and still persist |
| 16:13.41 | Hachiman | Also there was once a Roman Emperor known as Valerian the Elder who was said to have been subject to death by being forced to consume molten lead after a long period of captivity as a Persian PoW |
| 16:14.11 | OluapPlayer | lead poisoning level = pro |
| 16:15.25 | Quark8 | ~seen Treebeard |
| 16:15.25 | infobot | treebeard <52068dfd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.6.141.253> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 1d 45m 50s ago, saying: 'Hello'. |
| 16:15.36 | Quark8 | Oh. I thought that he disappeared. |
| 16:15.42 | Hachiman | Did nobody say hello back to Treebeard? |
| 16:15.44 | Hachiman | You monsters |
| 16:16.06 | OluapPlayer | Did YOU? |
| 16:16.27 | Hachiman | yee |
| 16:16.43 | OluapPlayer | i dun beleeb u |
| 16:17.19 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_: Oh! |
| 16:17.31 | DrodoEmpire | Nah, I haven't unfortunately |
| 16:20.31 | Imperios | Hachiman: It is better to die for Treebeard than live for yourself |
| 16:21.29 | Imperios | Hachiman OluapPlayer: http://2ch.hk/wh/src/541722/14731177462430.jpg Paints left unthinned |
| 16:21.40 | Hachiman | hur |
| 16:21.48 | OluapPlayer | Fucking hell |
| 16:22.49 | Monet | THIN YOUR PAINTS |
| 16:23.40 | Monet | https://i.ytimg.com/vi/m3p_VuPIS2c/hqdefault.jpg kill me or I take your soul |
| 16:24.47 | DrodoEmpire | ohgod |
| 16:25.03 | Imperios | Jokes on you, I have hoards of miniatures like that somewhere in my room |
| 16:25.46 | Monet | http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/2012/9/2/6571650f06e46a294d7bb4789388c51d_54120.png__thumb FEHHHR THEGH EMPERERGH |
| 16:26.56 | OluapPlayer | so these are the mutants they keep warning us about |
| 16:27.07 | *** join/#sporewiki Treebeard (52068dfd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.6.141.253) |
| 16:27.12 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 16:27.13 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: http://2ch.hk/wh/src/547922/14706780571480.jpg |
| 16:27.19 | Cyrannian | Hi |
| 16:27.22 | Quark8 | Hello Freeboard. |
| 16:27.26 | Quark8 | *Treebeard |
| 16:27.28 | OluapPlayer | EEY |
| 16:27.34 | OluapPlayer | EET SEZ YER A GROT |
| 16:28.59 | Monet | Hello |
| 16:29.22 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 16:31.25 | Hachiman | Hi Tree |
| 16:47.38 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 16:55.01 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Eternal_Enigma - Take a look |
| 16:57.29 | *** join/#sporewiki dino82_ (52b0ddef@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.176.221.239) |
| 16:57.37 | Quark8 | Hello dino82_. |
| 16:57.46 | dino82_ | Hi! |
| 16:58.06 | Cyrannian | Hello dino! |
| 16:58.43 | dino82_ | Hi |
| 16:58.46 | dino82_ | Howz all doing! |
| 16:58.51 | dino82_ | Seems the wikia shows some more activity :D |
| 16:59.05 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 16:59.08 | Treebeard | Cyrannian: Is Enigma's appearance a holographic projection, or his physical form? |
| 16:59.14 | DrodoEmpire | Hi dino |
| 16:59.26 | Quark8 | The page is a good read. I didn't expect Eternal Enigma to be apathetic to Tyrómairon. |
| 16:59.53 | Cyrannian | Treebeard: Advanced holography, he doesn't have a physical form, though can interact with the world around him |
| 17:00.37 | Hachiman | I like the fact that Enigma actually has a personality |
| 17:00.41 | Hachiman | He's like a Halo AI |
| 17:02.01 | Cyrannian | Something similar yes, first character of that sort I've created (I think anyway, I'm pretty sure I mentioned a couple in passing at some point) |
| 17:06.24 | OluapPlayer | Adjunct tho |
| 17:07.12 | Xho | Just about to say Adjunct hur |
| 17:07.56 | Xho | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/0a/ZhulultuEmblem.png/revision/latest?cb=20160906170630 zhulultu and shi |
| 17:08.48 | OluapPlayer | Nice |
| 17:11.07 | Hachiman | That's pretty cool |
| 17:11.28 | Xho | I was gonna give it a full look but I thought a decaying symbol was better |
| 17:18.38 | Cyrannian | Very impressive |
| 17:25.19 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: http://2ch.hk/wh/src/548928/14725104379970.jpg Warhammer meets Warcraft |
| 17:25.51 | Imperios | Xho_Away: Why does this look so communist? |
| 17:35.06 | DrodoEmpire | dino82_ I made a new Klaxon post that may interest you |
| 17:35.09 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 17:35.43 | dino82_ | checkingout |
| 17:36.47 | Xho_Away | Imperios: Better dead than red |
| 17:36.51 | Xho_Away | Or the other way around |
| 17:37.12 | DrodoEmpire | Pretty sure the original slogan was as you said it |
| 17:37.23 | Monet | Xho: It's decay, but organised decay |
| 17:38.19 | Xho | I guess |
| 17:38.39 | Wormy_away | Comes from Bertrand Russel, "better red than dead" |
| 17:38.56 | Xho | Well my new PC is on its way |
| 17:38.59 | Wormy_away | *Russell |
| 17:39.10 | Xho | ubercharge mania train |
| 17:39.27 | OluapPlayer | medick |
| 17:39.39 | Xho | It's just the sheer size of it I can't get over |
| 17:40.15 | dino82_ | nice post, interessting to see the klaxxon still refers to him as mr. |
| 17:40.21 | Monet | Wormy_Away: No pretty sure it's "better dead than red" as it was an anti-communist slogan. |
| 17:40.29 | Xho | Tower height is 22" |
| 17:40.33 | DrodoEmpire | dino82_: Yeah, just to tease him further >.< |
| 17:40.55 | Wormy_away | It became appropriated by anti-communists |
| 17:41.20 | Wormy_away | *anti-communist capitalist pigs |
| 17:41.57 | Wormy_away | Russell was a man who despised human suffering |
| 17:42.01 | Wormy_away | He said "no alternatives remain except Communist domination or extinction of the human race, the former alternative is the lesser of two evils," |
| 17:42.04 | Monet | Well Russell did have socialist inclinations. |
| 17:42.42 | Wormy_away | He's not being pro-socialist, he is just making a statement that its the lesser two two evils |
| 17:42.59 | Xho | Tower height is 22", depth of 22" and 9.3" wide |
| 17:43.16 | Xho | Good thing I have a big enough desk |
| 17:43.21 | OluapPlayer | 22 things |
| 17:43.31 | dino82_ | @drodo: haha |
| 17:43.36 | Wormy_away | You escaped the number 21 |
| 17:43.44 | Xho | OluapPlayer: 56 cm |
| 17:43.51 | OluapPlayer | Right |
| 17:44.46 | Xho | In comparison my old desktop's case was 16.3" |
| 17:45.03 | Xho | Or 41.5 cm |
| 17:45.30 | Monet | Wormy_away: Fair enough. The anti-communists had a point though, given the standards of living in Russia by the 50s. |
| 17:46.11 | DrodoEmpire | "The anti-communists had a point though" is the understatement of the century |
| 17:46.14 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 17:46.23 | Xho | I did opt in for colour-controlled interior because RAINBOW |
| 17:46.51 | Wormy_away | As long as you are alive, things could change for the better. Philosophically its been argued even in prison, you are free |
| 17:47.28 | Wormy_away | Of course, coming from a man who despised suffering, you could take it reductio ad absurdum |
| 17:47.40 | Monet | Perhaps. |
| 17:47.45 | Wormy_away | And eliminate human existence completely |
| 17:48.22 | Monet | Communism, at least in Russia appears to follow the logic of "what can the state/party/people do to fix this problem?" while Capialism went with the attitude of "What could I do to fix this problem?" |
| 17:48.57 | DrodoEmpire | Capitalism was by its very nature individualist indeed |
| 17:49.19 | DrodoEmpire | Which is one reason why I like it- besides the fact that it actually, you know, *works* |
| 17:49.30 | DrodoEmpire | (And, yes, its *flawed*, what isn't.) |
| 17:50.07 | Monet | Capitalism is a very self-organising and self-growing system. |
| 17:50.18 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 17:50.44 | Wormy_away | I think it was communist Russia that deviated from Marx's conception that the state and an elite was there to guide the revolution, effectively creating the image of communism in the 20th century |
| 17:51.04 | Wormy_away | There are communist visions which focus on individuals |
| 17:51.27 | DrodoEmpire | There are |
| 17:51.37 | DrodoEmpire | But that doesn't mean they're viable or desirable |
| 17:52.04 | Monet | Often the most ideal systems are the ones that seem to work best on the small scale. |
| 17:52.58 | Monet | As much as people applaud the Nordic countries for their high levels of education and standard of living, they're also countries that have a fraction of the population of larger countries like Japan, China, Germany, India and the US. |
| 17:53.33 | Hachiman | >larger countries >Japan |
| 17:53.36 | Monet | What works in Denmark might not work in France because France has 12x as many people. |
| 17:53.57 | Monet | Hachiman: I was talking population numbers. |
| 17:54.03 | DrodoEmpire | Hachiman: Japan's population is pretty big considering how small the country is |
| 17:54.14 | DrodoEmpire | Actual *size* in square miles is meaningless |
| 17:54.25 | Wormy_away | Capitalism survived, so obviously it was better, but I choose not glorify it. |
| 17:55.02 | DrodoEmpire | Like I said, it isn't perfect, but its the best we got and gives the most opportunity to the most people |
| 17:55.35 | DrodoEmpire | But because something isn't perfect doesn't mean we should try literally *any* other solution, which seems to be the brain-damaged mindset of some people >.< |
| 17:55.38 | Xho | Japan isn't that small |
| 17:55.39 | Wormy_away | It causes a great deal of misery across the developing world. |
| 17:55.55 | DrodoEmpire | It does, but it doesn't *have* to |
| 17:56.06 | Wormy_away | Gives opportunities in some ways, takes them away in others. |
| 17:56.37 | Wormy_away | And many great capitalist ideas have failed. But one thing I will agree on, it appears to be self-correcting |
| 17:56.42 | Xho | Honshu and Hokkaido N - S is roughly the same as America N - S |
| 17:58.02 | Monet | Technogical development is also something that works best in an individually-minded system. |
| 18:00.10 | Wormy_away | In the end of the day, I think it less about a system in and of itself but how we as humans beings use our knowledge and our creativity inside it. And that can be for good |
| 18:00.26 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_away: I think the biggest difference between a great Capitalist idea failing and a Communist one failing is that more often than not, when a great capitalist idea fails, several thousand people- employees, investors, etc. lose their jobs and fortunes, and hundreds of thousands/millions of others are indirectly affected negatively and the economy shudders |
| 18:00.29 | DrodoEmpire | Its terrible |
| 18:00.57 | DrodoEmpire | But *not* as terrible as when a communist idea bombs- then you get political upheaval, food/supplies shortages, and thousands or millions dead or wounded. :p |
| 18:02.31 | Xho | red terror pls |
| 18:02.51 | Wormy_away | I'd love to agree with you, but you can probably find numerous examples of political upheaval, shortages as well as conflict brought on, at least indirectly, by capitalism |
| 18:03.25 | Imperios | Hachiman: Japan is actually pretty large if you compare it with, say, an average European country |
| 18:03.27 | DrodoEmpire | But this is direct |
| 18:03.27 | Hachiman | I mean |
| 18:03.34 | Imperios | that and it is, as Drodo mentioned, very popular |
| 18:03.37 | Imperios | IT's larger than, say, the UK |
| 18:03.58 | DrodoEmpire | When a capitalist idea fails, you get the Great Recession and with communism you get the Cultural Revolution |
| 18:04.15 | Xho | http://thetruesize.com/#?borders=1~!MTY5MjIxMTg.NTU0NzcyMQ*OTMzNjQ3(MzQ4MjQ3Ng~!JP*ODM2NDY5MA.MTU1ODE0Njc)Mw Look at that |
| 18:04.21 | Imperios | Or Germany |
| 18:04.33 | DrodoEmpire | And note that when it comes to things like illegal regime changes that seem to fit corporate interests- that's corporatism, that's corruption and illegal shit |
| 18:04.45 | Monet | When a capitalist idea fails, the minds behind the idea fall and bring problems down with them. When a great communist idea fails, everyone falls. |
| 18:04.48 | DrodoEmpire | Stuff that can arise out of capitalism, which is bad, but not the essence of capitalism |
| 18:05.34 | DrodoEmpire | Things like the Cultural Revolution or famine no. eighty billion in shitholeistan are basically direct results of communist policies |
| 18:05.36 | Hachiman | Is the essence of communism inherently malign then? |
| 18:05.48 | Imperios | Communism is very hard to define |
| 18:05.49 | Monet | I recall a lot of dictators in the Caribbean and the Middle East were installed in place of Marxist or Communist demagogues. |
| 18:05.52 | DrodoEmpire | I'd argue its inherently impractical, and possibly malign |
| 18:05.56 | DrodoEmpire | *I* don't like t |
| 18:05.58 | DrodoEmpire | *it |
| 18:06.02 | OluapPlayer | Spore is 75% off on Steam this week |
| 18:06.06 | DrodoEmpire | Ooh |
| 18:06.08 | OluapPlayer | Just in case anyone wants to buy it there |
| 18:06.12 | Imperios | Keep in mind that regimes defined as "communist" are called so not because they were ruled *by* communism |
| 18:06.17 | Xho | loadsa percent |
| 18:06.21 | Imperios | But because they intended to move *towards* communism |
| 18:06.29 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 18:06.48 | Hachiman | Also, I think capitalism does give rise to stuff like famine and poverty |
| 18:06.50 | Imperios | Though devoting the country's entire resources towards a single goal can be, for the lack of a better word, problematic |
| 18:07.00 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: You there? |
| 18:07.03 | DrodoEmpire | Hachiman: Not often, and not as a direct result |
| 18:07.05 | Wormy_away | What I question is the essence of capitalism or communism we are referring to. I can agree it is less practical, but we are in danger of making utopian myths out of capitalism which is itself, uncritical |
| 18:07.05 | Technobliterator | I am |
| 18:07.08 | DrodoEmpire | What're your examples? |
| 18:07.09 | Technobliterator | But only briefly |
| 18:07.09 | OluapPlayer | AMA pls |
| 18:07.19 | Imperios | TBH looking at the world, socialism works best in developing countries |
| 18:07.23 | Technobliterator | I'll put it up in a couple hours |
| 18:07.25 | Imperios | Even South Korea went through a socialist phase |
| 18:07.28 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_away: I have no delusions about Capitalism being utopian |
| 18:07.29 | Technobliterator | I have to go shortly |
| 18:07.36 | OluapPlayer | bleh |
| 18:07.43 | DrodoEmpire | But its far, far better in almost every circumstance |
| 18:07.44 | Imperios | From 1960s to 1970s it was basically a communist dictatorship |
| 18:07.47 | Imperios | Oddly enough |
| 18:07.51 | Technobliterator | sorry, been busy most of today |
| 18:08.15 | Imperios | And despite its dark sides, it did pave way for the country's current progressive state |
| 18:08.19 | DrodoEmpire | In desperate times or in truly-decisive times yeah socialism/near-communism are probably good for making the most out of extremely limited resoures |
| 18:08.22 | DrodoEmpire | You're right Imperios |
| 18:08.29 | DrodoEmpire | But it doesn't scale and it doesn't last |
| 18:08.30 | Wormy_away | Does even capitalism exist in its truest form? I've heard a few times peop;le say it does not |
| 18:08.43 | DrodoEmpire | No, I'd argue it doesn't |
| 18:08.53 | Imperios | Wormy_away: Not anymore, at least, and probably never did |
| 18:08.56 | DrodoEmpire | But why do you care? I never said it did |
| 18:09.12 | Monet | OluapPlayer: That does make some sense. While Communism is famous for helping people living dirt-poor, it does often grant a lot of people some level of matched quality of life. |
| 18:09.15 | DrodoEmpire | Like I said, I have no delusions about capitalism, I know how it can go wrong |
| 18:09.15 | Imperios | Laissez-faire is inherently flawed and leads to the very same result as pure planned economy |
| 18:09.19 | Hachiman | Look at countries like Brazil and what corporations, of course driven by capitalism, are doing to stuff like the Amazon and its native peoples and how it negatively affects animal conservation efforts |
| 18:09.29 | OluapPlayer | You must've pinged the wrong person there |
| 18:09.33 | DrodoEmpire | Right, unfair competition |
| 18:09.43 | DrodoEmpire | Which is why capitalism does need regulation |
| 18:09.44 | Wormy_away | That's why I;m keeping away from arguments like "But X was not a real communist country so is a bad example" |
| 18:09.47 | Imperios | Hachiman: Counterexample: Kazakhstan |
| 18:10.05 | Hachiman | And of course the whole thing with companies that buy land to expand and build industry and shove its previous residents out onto the streets |
| 18:10.12 | Imperios | The USSR sought to massively change its geography to cover it in farms and the like |
| 18:10.16 | DrodoEmpire | That doesn't happen very often though |
| 18:10.23 | DrodoEmpire | Not in developed countries especially |
| 18:10.27 | DrodoEmpire | Far more common in China |
| 18:10.31 | Imperios | However they stumbled so much that half of the country is a desert |
| 18:10.33 | Hachiman | It does happen though |
| 18:10.38 | Imperios | Because of incompetent governance |
| 18:10.42 | DrodoEmpire | Nowhere near as much as you seem to imply |
| 18:10.54 | Imperios | I do not think there's a point in arguing guys |
| 18:10.58 | Monet | Russia is an example of communism done with gross incompetence. |
| 18:11.02 | DrodoEmpire | And it happens *far more* at the hands of the government of China |
| 18:11.03 | Imperios | Laissez-faire was a failed idea |
| 18:11.09 | DrodoEmpire | It was, for sure |
| 18:11.09 | Imperios | So was purely planned economy |
| 18:11.24 | Xho | all ideology is bad no need to destroy the bear just cut its throat |
| 18:11.30 | Imperios | Ergo, wherever the perfect golden mean lies, it will be neither socialist nor capitalist |
| 18:11.33 | DrodoEmpire | I think ancaps are just as crazy as communists, don't worry |
| 18:11.37 | OluapPlayer | DA BEAR AND DA BULL |
| 18:11.38 | Imperios | Monet: Well |
| 18:11.48 | Monet | They were feeding their people by getting physicists and virtuosos to work land they thought would be good farmland because it was flat and empty. |
| 18:11.49 | Imperios | Lenin did manage to bring the country out of a dead end |
| 18:12.00 | DrodoEmpire | Well no, I think reasonably-well regulated capitalism is best for a stable country |
| 18:12.15 | Imperios | And Stalin, for all his incompetence and brutality, managed to industrialise the USSR |
| 18:12.28 | DrodoEmpire | For a country that has extremely limited resources, you're right, a competent dictator and a planned economy's best |
| 18:12.41 | Imperios | The USSR managed the country better than Putin, for sure |
| 18:12.42 | DrodoEmpire | But then it needs to develop beyond that after its on its feet |
| 18:12.48 | Imperios | But that was not due to economy, but rather due to ideology |
| 18:13.01 | Monet | China's system of state-supported capitalism does certainly have its advantages |
| 18:13.09 | Imperios | The Communist party was far more idealistic |
| 18:13.28 | Imperios | And, for all its faults, invested in social security, social justice and the like |
| 18:13.39 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway, I say we take this to off-topic |
| 18:13.42 | Wormy_away | DrodoEmpire: I think in terms of self-improvement, captalism has shown that it can and is more open to change. So that is one feature that makes it better. |
| 18:13.47 | Imperios | Alrightio |
| 18:13.50 | DrodoEmpire | I agree |
| 18:13.56 | Monet | China's economy may be a middle finger to environmentalism and worker's right,s but it's industrialsied the country considerably. |
| 18:14.00 | Imperios | #sporewiki-offtopic |
| 18:14.02 | Hachiman | GUYS DID YOU KNOW THAT HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST |
| 18:14.14 | Hachiman | IF YOU'RE A SOCIALIST, YOU SHARE THE SAME IDEOLOGY AS HITLER |
| 18:14.32 | OluapPlayer | Godwin's quota achieved |
| 18:14.47 | Monet | The Nazis hated Communists though. |
| 18:15.13 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Ruuvitharn - Finished Page 2: Electric Phaedricaloo |
| 18:15.39 | OluapPlayer | Meketanor - awful/10 pls explode |
| 18:15.40 | Quark8 | *takes a looksee* |
| 18:15.45 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WotcdNF3ASk/T-W3HI6IAgI/AAAAAAAAAOk/1_HCrB_0GL8/s1600/swastika3swastika.jpg |
| 18:15.47 | Hachiman | Monet: National Socialism = Nationalsozialismus, shortened to Nazi |
| 18:16.03 | Xho | but he was far right |
| 18:16.09 | Xho | wat wrong wit dem nazis |
| 18:16.14 | Monet | Hachiman: It was a different kind of socialism to what was going on in Russia. |
| 18:16.54 | Imperios | Monet: Hitler's idea was |
| 18:17.04 | Imperios | ALRIGHT, WE NEED TO GET THE WORKERS SUPPORT US AND THESE FUCKERS ARE RUNNING TO THE COMMIES |
| 18:17.04 | OluapPlayer | Move to offtopic yo |
| 18:17.22 | Imperios | SO WE NEED TO SUPPORT THEM BUT AT THE SAME TIME BOOTLICK THE BOURGEOIS |
| 18:17.24 | *** part/#sporewiki Quark8 (49c685a7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.198.133.167) |
| 18:17.25 | Imperios | HOW DO WE DO THAT? |
| 18:17.26 | Imperios | OBVIOUSLY |
| 18:17.29 | OluapPlayer | Cyrannian: I don't get it, are the other Phaedra aware of his betrayal? |
| 18:17.34 | *** join/#sporewiki Quark8 (49c685a7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.198.133.167) |
| 18:17.36 | Imperios | BY RENDERING CLASS STRUGGLE IRRELEVANT IN FAVOUR OF NATIONAL STRUGGLE |
| 18:17.43 | Imperios | WHY SHOULD WE KILL CAPITALISTS |
| 18:17.46 | Imperios | WHEN WE CAN KILL JEWS |
| 18:17.48 | OluapPlayer | Move to offtopic I said |
| 18:17.51 | DrodoEmpire | dino82_ is Rambert going to respond? Just curious |
| 18:17.52 | Imperios | i DID |
| 18:17.56 | Xho | Lanius' karma: >neutral |
| 18:17.57 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 18:17.57 | Imperios | Hachi didn't |
| 18:18.01 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 18:18.01 | DrodoEmpire | oy vey |
| 18:18.01 | Xho | New Vegas had no priorities |
| 18:18.02 | DrodoEmpire | fine |
| 18:18.20 | OluapPlayer | Lanius was a pretty good guy when he wasn't crucifying profligates |
| 18:18.22 | dino82_ | @drodo: Not sure, I don't think so, |
| 18:18.43 | dino82_ | @He will keep his words to himself, feeling that there is little to actually convince the Klaxxon to do otherwise |
| 18:19.03 | Xho | Not the smartest bloke aside from strategics on killing people though |
| 18:19.12 | Hachiman | inb4 Ruuvitharn's betrayal is a ruse to convince Intelligence otherwise |
| 18:19.28 | OluapPlayer | Anteddy - jokes on you i betrayed myself |
| 18:19.41 | DrodoEmpire | dino82_ ahh, kk |
| 18:19.53 | OluapPlayer | yes Lanius is a poor leader hence why the Legion is better off withy Caesar alive |
| 18:19.57 | OluapPlayer | with* |
| 18:20.46 | Monet | Lanius - KILL SHIT. and...CRUCIFY SHIT. Okay I'm out of ideas. |
| 18:25.21 | Hachiman | "Caranye: "Come! The TÄ will distract the tentacles!" Hachiman: "H-Hey, I have a name you know! ... And a phone number if you're interested in--"" |
| 18:25.25 | Hachiman | I forgot about that |
| 18:25.30 | Hachiman | Gave me a good chuckle |
| 18:26.08 | Cyrannian | Brezank was a fun story, she fired a warning shot near his crotch IIRC |
| 18:26.10 | OluapPlayer | Only kind of successful flirting in Cyrandia is waptor-on-birb action |
| 18:26.56 | Cyrannian | Mortikran - what about land shark-on-humanoid action |
| 18:27.00 | OluapPlayer | Brezank was not as good as I hoped it would be, but it worked well enough |
| 18:27.18 | OluapPlayer | Should've probably planned the story more before doing it |
| 18:27.27 | Xho | severe lack of xho as well |
| 18:27.30 | Xho | lack of xho is lack of |
| 18:27.31 | Xho | well |
| 18:27.32 | Xho | xho |
| 18:27.42 | OluapPlayer | 10/1 |
| 18:27.45 | OluapPlayer | yes 10/1 |
| 18:27.45 | Hachiman | http://i.imgur.com/FA5AxTA.png Also looks like Cyrannian had another accident |
| 18:27.58 | Cyrannian | how dis |
| 18:28.07 | Cyrannian | I'm still in the edit page thingie |
| 18:28.07 | OluapPlayer | Voe - oh god what is this i'm not good with computer |
| 18:30.16 | Xho | computer skill level: actual waptor |
| 18:30.20 | Quark8 | Voe - Editor bitch stung me |
| 18:30.34 | Hachiman | "I AM HACHIMAN THE GREAT AND HANDSOME AND ON ALL LEVELS INCLUDING PHYSICAL I AM A RABBIT" |
| 18:30.36 | Hachiman | Imagine if we wrote pages from the perspective of the character we were writing about |
| 18:30.37 | *** join/#sporewiki Charles_Murray (c0f6ea1b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.246.234.27) |
| 18:30.55 | Quark8 | Hello Charles. |
| 18:31.04 | OluapPlayer | Well |
| 18:31.07 | OluapPlayer | That'd be weird |
| 18:31.19 | Xho | Hachiman: "Cheese is good. That's all there has to be said." |
| 18:31.55 | OluapPlayer | "I was surrounded by primitives. But I had to deal with their existence. I am still surrounded by primitives, but I don't say that out loud." |
| 18:31.55 | Imperios | "I am superior in every way" - Venoriel |
| 18:32.12 | Hachiman | "My name is not important, what is important is what I'm going to do. I just f--king hate this world, and the human worms feasting on it's carcass! My whole life is just cold bitter Hatred, and I always wanted to die violently. This is the time of vengeance, and no life is worth saving." - Tyraz' page |
| 18:32.24 | OluapPlayer | >implying this hard |
| 18:32.28 | Xho | "Tyraz is an edgelord." - Kithworto |
| 18:33.17 | Xho | Kithworto's one would be like "Was born. Turned into a god. Seen too much shit. Taking long vacation." |
| 18:33.26 | OluapPlayer | I can't fathom Regnatus & related's pages written by themselves |
| 18:33.57 | Xho | "SUCCUMB AND ASCEND. Related Pages: SUCCUMB and ASCEND" |
| 18:34.03 | Hachiman | succ |
| 18:34.08 | Monet | Arsac's page might be like Kithworto's |
| 18:34.23 | OluapPlayer | Vorius's page would be 2 TB of the same mantra over and over again |
| 18:34.43 | Xho | "Got turned into a supersoldier. Was lied to. Actually day-carer." - Tau |
| 18:34.44 | Hachiman | Well, at least it looks like Zilla wrote Phase-Hunter's page from the perspective of Phase-hunter |
| 18:35.02 | OluapPlayer | "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" -Koluap |
| 18:35.24 | Monet | Uriel's bio at least would be written like an a full biography Anecdotes and all. |
| 18:35.33 | Hachiman | I can only imagine what the Loron pages would look like |
| 18:35.47 | OluapPlayer | "IM DA BEST SCROO YOO" |
| 18:35.49 | OluapPlayer | All of them |
| 18:35.51 | Hachiman | Loron character pages written by themselves sound like an absolute goldmine |
| 18:35.58 | Xho | Apart from the one that goes GRUMBLE |
| 18:36.05 | Hachiman | GRUMBLE GRUMBLE GRUMBLE |
| 18:36.10 | OluapPlayer | Except Hagto'Zhl and Zr'Ahgloth's pages have one extra detail saying "btw IM DA REEL ZR'AHGLOTH" |
| 18:36.31 | Monet | We already have a Loron encyclopaedia |
| 18:36.42 | OluapPlayer | There is that |
| 18:36.46 | Xho | Angazhar's page would be a virtually endless page mocking mortality in a cryptic and poetic manner |
| 18:36.57 | OluapPlayer | Angazhar - fires n shit |
| 18:37.18 | Xho | "Lego blocks. The perfect state of being." - Krathazhrukhal |
| 18:37.40 | OluapPlayer | The Gangstapedia is canon too |
| 18:38.16 | Hachiman | "MyÌ¢Ì̶ ̢̡naÌ´ÌÌ¢mÒ̶e̸̷ ÍiÌ¡s̨̡ ̵ÍnÍÒÌ´ot̸̢̡ ̵įÍm̢̢̧p̷̨oÍÍrÌ¡tÌ·ÍaÌ´ÍntÍ,Í Ì¢wh̵a̧tÍ i̶̷s Í¢iÌ¡Í¡mpÍ¢or̵̶t̨ÍaÍĮ́ntÍ Ì´ ̶i̶ş͡ ÍÒÍwhÌatÌÍ¡ Í¢IÍ 'mÍ Í Òg̵oÌ¢ÍiÍnÍÍ Í gÍ¡Í¡Í tÍo dÍ¢o.̶ IÌ· Ì¡jÍ¡Ì¡u̧̢͡s̶ÍtÌ´ÌÌ¡ f-ÍÍ-ÍkÍÌ¡iÒÍnÒÍgÍ¢ Íh̶̡͡a̸tÍÍ¢eÌ·Í Ì¶Ì¡thÌis ÍÍwÌ·Ì´Í¢oÌ·rÒlÍ̶ḑ,Í Í̢̧ą̴̧nÍÌ´dÍÌ¢Í Ì¨tÍÍheÌÍ ÍhuÍ¢mÍ¢aÌ¢nÍ Ì¶ wo̸ÍrÌ |
| 18:38.25 | OluapPlayer | nani |
| 18:38.32 | Hachiman | NANI |
| 18:38.38 | Xho | NANDAYO |
| 18:38.44 | OluapPlayer | H-HE'S FAST |
| 18:38.49 | Hachiman | hur |
| 18:40.30 | Cyrannian | Tigarlu's page would be like a private journal detailing her infiltration and outlining her plans for mass murder |
| 18:41.05 | OluapPlayer | Enemies = Apollo, Tyromairon, the Neraida and the Xeranbha Allies = Gorf |
| 18:41.19 | Hachiman | *Gorf <3 |
| 18:41.24 | *** join/#sporewiki Dinolion92 (6028a95e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.40.169.94) |
| 18:41.41 | OluapPlayer | wot |
| 18:41.43 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 18:41.51 | Dinolion92 | Hi |
| 18:42.25 | Hachiman | I can imagine that if Hachi writ his own character page it'd be like something a 12 year old would write |
| 18:42.35 | Hachiman | *wrote even |
| 18:42.48 | OluapPlayer | so no changes |
| 18:42.54 | DrodoEmpire | savage |
| 18:42.59 | Hachiman | ;-; |
| 18:43.03 | Xho | gonna need a senzu for that one |
| 18:43.05 | OluapPlayer | hee hee |
| 18:43.17 | Hachiman | I feel like I just got Yamcha'd |
| 18:43.19 | Dinolion92 | If I wrote a character page for myself, it would probably be to similar to Tyromairon's page. I am kind of a power hungry dictator |
| 18:43.48 | Monet | "Thea took me for ice cream on Saturday, I got pistachio and topped with a flake. Thea said I shouldn't lick too fast but I did anyway and got brain-freeze. She rubbed it better but head still hurts a little" |
| 18:44.03 | Dinolion92 | LOL |
| 18:45.37 | Xho | Kithworto - this is not training |
| 18:45.53 | OluapPlayer | Thea - half training half family member |
| 18:46.03 | Monet | Awww :> |
| 18:46.04 | Xho | Kithworto - #whatislove |
| 18:46.13 | Hachiman | Hachi - not for u lol |
| 18:46.16 | Monet | BABY DON'T HURT ME! |
| 18:46.36 | Dinolion92 | ROFL |
| 18:46.41 | Xho | Kithworto - protect universe destroy it because savage burn scales r tipping u dense mofo |
| 18:47.00 | OluapPlayer | Shu'rimrodir - get in line pepper-head |
| 18:47.18 | Xho | Kithworto - hao bout u move ur lazy ass so i can kik it |
| 18:47.37 | OluapPlayer | Shu'rimrodir - sleepy non-euclidian nightmare |
| 18:47.51 | Hachiman | Cthulhu called; he wants his motif back |
| 18:48.02 | Dinolion92 | *Kicks both OluapPlayer and Xho as they argue* |
| 18:48.15 | Dinolion92 | *Then runs away to escape their anger* |
| 18:49.49 | Xho | Truth is I have no clue what Kithworto is doing atm |
| 18:50.34 | OluapPlayer | Why did he even leave? |
| 18:51.02 | Monet | Well there was the backlash against that accord. |
| 18:51.17 | Hachiman | Funny how both Kithworto and Kinmorunddraver have disappeared from the mortal realms |
| 18:51.53 | Xho | Kinmorunddraver's departure was actually reasoned |
| 18:51.53 | OluapPlayer | >allies with god-like evil dictator widely hated by the galactic community >"wow y u guys angry at me" |
| 18:52.49 | Monet | The universe has evolved in a way that modern powers disagree with the idea of one particular nation installing itself as some guardian of all. |
| 18:53.12 | Hachiman | Yet for some reason France has gotten as far as it has hur |
| 18:53.25 | Cyrannian | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/f6/Tigarlu.png/revision/latest?cb=20160906185314 - The face of evil |
| 18:53.32 | Xho | Kithworto's an amoral force of nature underneath his Kicathian guise and not many are privy to it |
| 18:53.35 | Monet | France did so at the agreement of other nations. |
| 18:53.40 | OluapPlayer | watch out he's yellow |
| 18:53.48 | Hachiman | h-he's yellow |
| 18:53.50 | OluapPlayer | yellow dvottie are particularly cunning |
| 18:53.51 | DrodoEmpire | Hachiman: Except that France isn't some one guardian nation |
| 18:53.51 | Cyrannian | *she |
| 18:54.13 | Xho | KIIROI |
| 18:54.14 | OluapPlayer | As far as I'm aware of the current state of the Milky Way, it kinda is |
| 18:54.15 | DrodoEmpire | It exists with the cooperation of others |
| 18:54.19 | DrodoEmpire | ...It isn't |
| 18:54.33 | DrodoEmpire | Again, it exists with the cooperation and equality of others- the DCP, the DI, the Drodo Empire |
| 18:54.34 | DrodoEmpire | So on |
| 18:54.43 | DrodoEmpire | Its Empire is overextended anyway as it is |
| 18:54.56 | OluapPlayer | It took the place over, the DCP isn't the top dog anymore |
| 18:54.57 | Hachiman | I was gonna say that France seems a bit overextended for its own good |
| 18:55.07 | Xho | I don't know how many would be aware of the fact that Kithworto and Tyromairon entered an agreement because neither of them wanted to wage war on one another |
| 18:55.09 | Quark8 | Well, an elevator almost cursed my sister. |
| 18:55.11 | Hachiman | I mean, look at its Borealis colonies |
| 18:55.17 | OluapPlayer | Because you announced it to the UDB |
| 18:55.18 | DrodoEmpire | Its not the "top dog" though as it exists alongside the DCP |
| 18:55.20 | DrodoEmpire | I know this |
| 18:55.50 | OluapPlayer | Oh wait I thought you asked how people were aware of it |
| 18:55.52 | DrodoEmpire | Its whole structure and the international order isn't based on one great power |
| 18:55.54 | OluapPlayer | Retract that statement |
| 18:56.01 | Xho | Well as far as the UDB was aware it was a diplomatic effort rather than an existential deterrent |
| 18:56.10 | OluapPlayer | retract dam u |
| 18:56.15 | Xho | IMPOSSIBRU |
| 18:56.22 | Monet | Xho: YUou can Blame Tyro's dogbody for using it as a means to validate the GEC's authority over the gigaquadrant. |
| 18:56.30 | OluapPlayer | Though he still did it behind the backs of the Kicathian Remnant |
| 18:56.44 | OluapPlayer | Which was one of the most disagreed parts of it iirc |
| 18:56.47 | Hachiman | >Tyro's dogbody |
| 18:56.50 | Xho | Kitravasuron - id suplex but dude's a god |
| 18:56.53 | Hachiman | But he's a raptor |
| 18:57.02 | Hachiman | So he has a raptor body |
| 18:57.07 | Xho | waptorbod |
| 18:57.08 | Xho | hawt |
| 18:57.17 | Monet | Right-hand guy then. |
| 18:57.33 | Hachiman | Oh right you mean that |
| 18:57.35 | OluapPlayer | Regarding the Milky Way, I'd rather not go on into this kind of talk, but I'll just say it's one of the reasons I left the galaxy and moved to Borealis |
| 18:57.46 | OluapPlayer | Completely that is, Borealis was already mine before that |
| 18:58.01 | Xho | I'd hate to say it but the Milky Way's organisation is a mess so that's why I don't delve into it |
| 18:58.01 | Hachiman | Just so you know, I'm actually revising the Sylits so I can kill fiction I don't like lmao |
| 18:58.14 | Xho | Hachiman: just move it to tuuros u dunce |
| 18:58.28 | Hachiman | y wud they go to tuuros |
| 18:58.30 | Hachiman | its a shit hole dere |
| 18:58.43 | Hachiman | Well I mean they're going there anyway but you know |
| 18:58.45 | OluapPlayer | mad pit of violent evil for mad violent evil people |
| 18:58.50 | Monet | Xho: Might have been due to its origins as a galaxy no one explicitly owned. |
| 18:58.57 | Xho | better than ramvelkys bcus ramvelkys |
| 18:59.04 | Xho | or no ramvelkys for that matter |
| 18:59.09 | Hachiman | Well Ramvelkys is fucking dead so |
| 18:59.15 | Xho | Angazhar - my bad |
| 18:59.21 | Xho | Monet: That's kind of the idea |
| 18:59.55 | Xho | It's alright if a user's beginning in it, the lack of structure makes it freeform |
| 19:00.11 | Xho | Also a reason why I wanted to make Tuuros because structure was necessary |
| 19:00.11 | OluapPlayer | Cyrannian: Also I just noticed your *. Tigarlu is a girl? |
| 19:00.38 | Hachiman | I did have the idea that a majority of UVF colonies were moved to the Milky Way by supernatural forces but then I also kinda don't wanna get involved in the political mess that is Milky Way |
| 19:01.08 | Monet | Part of the current state may be Valery's desire for an AGC-style galactic body in each galaxy. |
| 19:01.26 | Hachiman | Crispy - [triggered] |
| 19:01.38 | dino82_ | i |
| 19:01.39 | Monet | He considered the Civilisation a failed state. |
| 19:01.40 | Xho | Monet: Man the Tuuros backlash would be violent af |
| 19:01.48 | Cyrannian | OluapPlayer: I'm pretty sure, though she has been referred to as a 'he' in previous stories |
| 19:01.57 | Hachiman | What if Tigarlu is both |
| 19:02.01 | Hachiman | Or neither |
| 19:02.05 | OluapPlayer | Gorf - that explains more than gorf wanted |
| 19:02.12 | Xho | If Alexandre preached galactic unification in Tuuros it would move the war mode into full pelt |
| 19:02.13 | Monet | Tigarlu identifies as non-binary. |
| 19:02.18 | Hachiman | Tigarlu - DID YOU JUST ASSUME MY GENDER |
| 19:02.40 | Xho | Nijusi would certainly hate it |
| 19:02.54 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Republic_Remnant#Civilians - This is her only biography section and she's a female in it |
| 19:03.18 | OluapPlayer | Well damn |
| 19:03.24 | OluapPlayer | I always thought she was a boy bird |
| 19:03.24 | Cyrannian | Though whatever tickles her fancy, I suppose |
| 19:03.36 | Monet | Well perhaps part of the reason France is so prominent in the MW is the rest - Wormy, Tek, and Drodo for instance, aren't as prominent due to real life commitments. |
| 19:03.43 | Hachiman | I'd rather not tickle an animal's anything |
| 19:03.54 | OluapPlayer | Though this won't change the way Gorf treats her, however it may be |
| 19:04.05 | OluapPlayer | It probably involves throwing her at Apollo when he's distracted |
| 19:04.07 | Hachiman | Gorf - <3 Tigarlu - >:( |
| 19:04.43 | Cyrannian | Tigarlu - YOU WILL RUE THIS DAY UNCLEAN ONE |
| 19:04.46 | OluapPlayer | Cyrannian: Oh god. Imagine Gorf in the Aldar Order |
| 19:05.24 | Cyrannian | Using a Tigarlu as a not!lightsaber |
| 19:05.40 | OluapPlayer | Gorf - may force be somewhere doing something (?????) |
| 19:05.50 | Hachiman | Wouldn't Gorf be like Yoda |
| 19:05.51 | Monet | Hachiman: Doesn't Golden Movement involve a little politics in its plot? |
| 19:06.06 | OluapPlayer | Gorf does not like this talk |
| 19:06.10 | Hachiman | It does but I also planned for it to involve anime-style punch fests |
| 19:06.23 | Hachiman | Which Milky Way suspiciously lacks |
| 19:06.34 | OluapPlayer | He'd only fit the part of being a squat, mischievous monkey-like thing who likes to bother people |
| 19:06.57 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: More like, "talk like this, Gorf does not" |
| 19:06.57 | Monet | Well DrodoEmpire could help you bring some punch-fests to the Milky Way. |
| 19:07.18 | Hachiman | It's kinda why I set the Sylits there, so more punch fests could happen |
| 19:07.21 | OluapPlayer | Gorf - gorf talks like gorf wants you sea cucumber |
| 19:07.38 | Cyrannian | Truth of Cyrannus is that it's an epic tale of the clash between Gorf and Tigarlu, with Tyrómairon, Apollo and the rest unwitting pawns |
| 19:07.53 | Hachiman | A tale of two friends become enemies |
| 19:07.55 | Xho | The One Gorf and the Anti-Gorf |
| 19:08.04 | Monet | And I have my Space Britbongs. |
| 19:08.19 | OluapPlayer | Tyrómairon - libráe, i have finally found you Tigarlu - tweet Tyrómairon - time was not nice to you i see |
| 19:08.20 | Monet | Unleash the tallyho |
| 19:08.43 | Imperios | I kind of relinquished my Russian fiction by making it join the ATR |
| 19:09.10 | OluapPlayer | my humans are, gasp, minor and mostly background stuff |
| 19:09.30 | Monet | Imperios: But...Wouldn't that make them traitors to the name of almighty Putin? |
| 19:09.39 | Hachiman | Libráe - tyromairon, is that you Gorf - :D Libráe - oh god |
| 19:09.53 | Imperios | Monet: They ARE traitors to most Russian values |
| 19:10.04 | Cyrannian | Spoiler: My humans are actually waptors in disguise |
| 19:10.16 | Imperios | Siberians have always been the most rebellious Russians IRL |
| 19:10.22 | Xho | I still ultimately don't see the point of humans on SporeWiki |
| 19:10.22 | OluapPlayer | gud |
| 19:10.27 | OluapPlayer | Cyrannus is no place for mammals |
| 19:10.31 | Monet | Cyrannian: Don't you have the Alpha Dracs and Bisistar for that though |
| 19:10.38 | OluapPlayer | Because human writers u dense fuk |
| 19:10.39 | Imperios | Like, most major uprisings in Russia came from its Eastenr regions |
| 19:10.45 | Imperios | Stepan Razin's uprising |
| 19:10.47 | Cyrannian | David Icke was right all along |
| 19:10.50 | Imperios | Pugachev's uprising |
| 19:10.50 | Xho | i have no humans in fiction fuk u |
| 19:10.52 | Hachiman | >I see no point of humans on SporeWiki >look at me set the Monolith beneath Eridu |
| 19:10.56 | Xho | Or that |
| 19:11.03 | Xho | Okay well I beat myself there |
| 19:11.17 | Imperios | Even the Whites in Russia were centered in Siberia |
| 19:11.18 | OluapPlayer | Also Kei'un huhu |
| 19:11.21 | Xho | If it were up to me the Monolith would have destroyed Earth |
| 19:11.26 | Xho | upon activation |
| 19:11.33 | Hachiman | Monolith would have done nothing wrong |
| 19:11.37 | Monet | We have humans in sporewiki partly because none of us decided to blow up the Earth. |
| 19:11.42 | Xho | Zhuleshxi - agreed |
| 19:12.06 | OluapPlayer | Zhuleshxi never leaves Earth because he's left stranded in space because the planet fucking exploded |
| 19:12.21 | Xho | Zhuleshxi didn't awaken on Earth u dunce |
| 19:12.35 | OluapPlayer | hao dis |
| 19:12.38 | Hachiman | Does anybody else remember that time when Kithworto was literally punched into another fucking planet by a caveman |
| 19:12.38 | Monet | The monolith was to wake him up. |
| 19:12.42 | OluapPlayer | What's the point of the Monolith? |
| 19:12.48 | Xho | The Monolith was a beacon device that was activated on physical contact |
| 19:12.57 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman: wot |
| 19:13.00 | Hachiman | Nocturnia |
| 19:13.11 | OluapPlayer | I'd definitely not classify those as cavemen |
| 19:13.17 | Xho | more like chaos monsters kek |
| 19:13.21 | Monet | Super-cavemen maybe. |
| 19:13.34 | Hachiman | They're not spacefaring hur |
| 19:13.34 | OluapPlayer | Yes, less of cavemen and more of literal demons |
| 19:13.52 | OluapPlayer | Or something worse than a demon |
| 19:13.59 | Xho | Anyway yeah there's countless other Monoliths that linked to Zhuleshxi's ship |
| 19:14.22 | Hachiman | I wonder how many cultures looked at those and thought "yeah fuck that" |
| 19:14.31 | Monet | It just so happened the one on Earth was the fist to be activated in 1.5bln years. |
| 19:14.33 | Xho | The other monoliths probably did destroy the planets they were on when Earth's monolith was touched |
| 19:15.04 | Hachiman | Hm |
| 19:15.11 | Hachiman | Could I bring werewolves / vampires to Tuuros |
| 19:15.35 | Cyrannian | Inappropriately touching strange monoliths is bad, kids |
| 19:15.36 | Monet | Reminds me of how when going to Mahanaya, the only people who went "yeah, fuck that" to the Xhodocto vault were the Inquisition. |
| 19:16.04 | OluapPlayer | You already made vampires for Borealis but never bothered to write about them |
| 19:16.07 | Xho | doi |
| 19:16.11 | Hachiman | i wat |
| 19:16.19 | Xho | Those vaults were likely Zhulultu vaults now |
| 19:16.27 | OluapPlayer | Hseraelna |
| 19:16.30 | Hachiman | Oh those |
| 19:16.35 | Xho | The concept of Xhodocto creating technology vaults is a little silly now |
| 19:16.46 | Monet | For once the rule-crazy zealots were the ones thinking rationally. |
| 19:16.52 | Hachiman | What about Xhodocto followers |
| 19:16.56 | OluapPlayer | Angazhar - I DO WHAT I WANT IF I WANT A GAMING PC I WILL HAVE ONE |
| 19:17.48 | Xho | yus |
| 19:17.52 | Xho | Should be here tomorrow |
| 19:18.00 | Monet | Wahey |
| 19:18.10 | OluapPlayer | nito |
| 19:18.35 | Hachiman | Imperios: I had a thought yesterday about Sylit history / mythology stuff and thought about the possibility of mages or sorcerers "stealing" the Flame's power to grant life to their own creations, like a sorta Prometheus tale |
| 19:18.38 | OluapPlayer | Angazhar's most played game: I Wanna Be The Guy |
| 19:18.48 | Monet | Imagine if the Manhattan Project was based off a Zhulutu artefact. |
| 19:18.58 | Hachiman | Dr. Zhulultu |
| 19:19.31 | Xho | It's got a 1080, 32GB RAM and a quad-core 3.4 GHz processor |
| 19:19.36 | Xho | Because this will last me a while |
| 19:19.39 | OluapPlayer | giga PC |
| 19:19.46 | Monet | Fat Man dropped on Hiroshima - destroys Japan |
| 19:20.03 | Xho | I AM BECOME DEATH THE DESTROYER OF WORLDS |
| 19:20.13 | Xho | Zhuleshxi - count it worlds why stop at earth |
| 19:20.33 | Monet | Oppenhemier - CHALLENGE ACCEPTED VOICES IN MY HEAD! |
| 19:20.58 | Xho | As for storage it's got a 240 GB SSD and a 3TB HDD |
| 19:21.44 | Monet | Nice |
| 19:22.08 | OluapPlayer | PC level = no upgrades needed in the foreseeable future tier |
| 19:22.10 | Xho | Also my favourite feature which is the colour control interior lights because I'm easy to please like that |
| 19:22.35 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Unless the peak of Moore's Law is round the corner, probably not |
| 19:23.27 | Xho | But yeah this should last me at least 5 years |
| 19:23.30 | Monet | A 3.4 GHz processor will be good for maybe 4-6 years? |
| 19:23.40 | Xho | Should be |
| 19:23.52 | Xho | I didn't opt in for overclocking because at that degree I didn't deem it necessary |
| 19:23.54 | Imperios | Hachiman: Azravi, the Great Raven of Blood |
| 19:23.58 | Monet | I think mine's 3.5 |
| 19:24.04 | OluapPlayer | BLOOD RAVENS |
| 19:24.55 | Monet | Yep, quad-core 3.5 GHz processor |
| 19:25.02 | Quark8 | How long does a 2.53 GHz processor usually last? |
| 19:25.16 | OluapPlayer | Meanwhile I'm stuck with some 3 year old trash |
| 19:25.28 | Monet | Quark8: Those things will struggle with any major new games. |
| 19:25.33 | Xho | Monet: The one I ordered was an i7-6700 |
| 19:25.34 | Quark8 | The laptop I'm on has been in use since mid-2010. |
| 19:26.00 | Monet | Xho: i5-4690 |
| 19:26.31 | Monet | I think the difference might be marginal. |
| 19:26.38 | OluapPlayer | i3-3240 3.40 GHz |
| 19:26.42 | OluapPlayer | afaik the i3 part is the bad one |
| 19:27.27 | Monet | Yeah cahnces are yours is only dual-core |
| 19:27.43 | Quark8 | So far this thing's been able to run most of the new games (i.e. Stellaris and whatnot). |
| 19:27.50 | OluapPlayer | No mention of dual |
| 19:27.51 | OluapPlayer | Just Core |
| 19:28.07 | OluapPlayer | I don't know what a processor core is but I probably only have one |
| 19:29.03 | Xho | https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/images/cs/obsidian750d/750D_01_400.png Well that's my tower |
| 19:29.29 | Xho | OluapPlayer: It's a dual-core |
| 19:29.31 | Monet | OluapPLayer: more cores = more multitasking available |
| 19:29.31 | OluapPlayer | top tower |
| 19:29.38 | OluapPlayer | Okay |
| 19:29.51 | OluapPlayer | Regardless it struggles to run 2015+ games |
| 19:30.21 | OluapPlayer | Also struggles to run Dwarf Fortress for more than a few in-game years |
| 19:30.55 | Monet | What DF lacks in graphics it compensates in raw maths. |
| 19:31.03 | Xho | https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/images/cs/x71/06_400.png?1 The biggest tower was this demon, 26.7" high |
| 19:31.22 | Monet | That's a monster |
| 19:31.31 | Monet | Liquid cooling too |
| 19:31.32 | OluapPlayer | That looks like a portal to hell |
| 19:31.59 | Xho | My one is 22" high which is big enough |
| 19:40.03 | Hachiman | Xho: Got first like on a LAD Bible post again |
| 19:40.34 | Xho | 10/10 ur life is exciting |
| 19:41.08 | Xho | OH AND YOU HAD TO COMMENT ON IT AS WELL |
| 19:41.32 | Monet | Lol |
| 19:42.25 | Hachiman | <3 |
| 19:46.39 | Hachiman | Xho: Just got a second one |
| 19:49.06 | Xho | y u do dis |
| 19:49.40 | Hachiman | empires gotta start somewhere |
| 19:49.55 | Cyrannian | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/06/Nagith.png/revision/latest?cb=20160906194913 - Take a look, made using my laptop, so they still need to be cyborg-ified |
| 19:50.18 | OluapPlayer | Does it not have a tail? |
| 19:50.25 | Cyrannian | Nope |
| 19:50.39 | Hachiman | So |
| 19:50.41 | OluapPlayer | y not |
| 19:50.41 | Hachiman | Frog raptors |
| 19:50.42 | Monet | So while pandas are now vulnerable instead of endangered, gorillas are now critically endangered. |
| 19:50.44 | OluapPlayer | tails r bae |
| 19:50.48 | Quark8 | Is that a Nagith? |
| 19:50.59 | Cyrannian | I agree, though the complexity meter was being a lil bich, so I had no choice |
| 19:51.09 | Xho | DI with infinite complexity u pleb-bot |
| 19:51.10 | OluapPlayer | Don't you have |
| 19:51.13 | Hachiman | Monet: cue harambe comment |
| 19:51.19 | OluapPlayer | Oh you're not on your PC |
| 19:51.28 | OluapPlayer | I was gonna say taht |
| 19:51.35 | Cyrannian | No, I keep my laptop Spore unmodded so I can share creatures |
| 19:51.48 | Monet | Hachiman: Funnily enough the first comment on Twitter was "Harambe :(" |
| 19:52.11 | Hachiman | Harambe wasn't even that kind of gorilla |
| 19:52.16 | Monet | All that time everyone was posting about he who died for their sins that his species is now even worse off. Good job social media |
| 19:52.32 | Xho | Hachiman: how many brothers must fall |
| 19:52.32 | OluapPlayer | Harambo's species IS also critically endangered |
| 19:52.36 | OluapPlayer | All gorillas are |
| 19:52.56 | Xho | In all fairness though gorillas are great |
| 19:52.59 | Hachiman | Harambe was a Western lowland gorilla while the new endangered gorilla species are Eastern gorillas |
| 19:53.20 | Hachiman | harambe was a gorilla gorilla gorilla |
| 19:53.26 | Monet | The internet doesn't seem that interested in the distinction. |
| 19:53.30 | OluapPlayer | Western lowland gorillas have been critically endangered for longer than shitty meme monkey was relevant |
| 19:53.36 | Xho | HOW MANY BROTHERS MUST FALL |
| 19:53.46 | Hachiman | inb4 all of them |
| 19:53.54 | Xho | [Zhulesxhi liked this.] |
| 19:54.04 | OluapPlayer | Generally the public only cares after it's beyond saving |
| 19:54.13 | Xho | Welcome to humanity |
| 19:54.18 | Monet | Because dey cyoot. |
| 19:54.22 | Monet | And in peril |
| 19:54.33 | Hachiman | "Today is a dark day for humanity because pandas have been removed from the endangered species list. We have failed as humans, but it's not too late. We can still wipe them out. They aren't very smart, and we have guns. Let's show them the true meaning of fear." |
| 19:55.04 | OluapPlayer | Wipe out the pandas, they're eating all of our bamboo |
| 19:55.50 | Monet | I actually wonder a little by what order of magnitude did the number of people who had heard of Harambe go up after he died? |
| 19:56.00 | Monet | went up* |
| 19:56.02 | Hachiman | Exponentially |
| 19:56.02 | Xho | I just realised I can run the remastered Skyrim at max settings |
| 19:56.06 | Xho | go mad biatch |
| 19:56.19 | Monet | Exponential is a rate of growth. |
| 19:56.29 | Hachiman | ur a rate of growth |
| 19:56.45 | Monet | I was talking about how many people in general. |
| 19:57.13 | Hachiman | Ooh, apparently NASA is gonna launch a mission to Mars in 2018 |
| 19:57.29 | Hachiman | Oh it's unamnned |
| 19:57.31 | Hachiman | unmanned |
| 19:57.35 | Hachiman | Fuck sake |
| 19:57.47 | Monet | But it's groundwork for the future human colony. |
| 19:57.53 | OluapPlayer | They refuse to send humans to the Moon, imagine Mars |
| 19:58.13 | Hachiman | At this rate I'll be dead before they dig through Europa and start turning its inhabitants into fish fingers |
| 19:58.17 | Xho | m0rs |
| 19:59.13 | OluapPlayer | m8s |
| 19:59.13 | Cyrannian | They should send humans to the sun, now that would be interesting |
| 19:59.23 | OluapPlayer | Be sure to do it at night though so you don't get burned |
| 19:59.28 | Monet | NASA is still planning a 2035 mission. |
| 19:59.56 | OluapPlayer | 2035 |
| 19:59.58 | OluapPlayer | fuk dat |
| 20:00.07 | Cyrannian | Yes, sunscreen would be essentially |
| 20:00.13 | OluapPlayer | I'll be 40 years old by then |
| 20:00.19 | Cyrannian | *essential |
| 20:00.20 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14212085_1769521653330744_6853599011690396607_n.png?oh=c890c9ac900efc4a90be91b08ce97c81&oe=584F2947 |
| 20:00.24 | Wormy_away | In the Xeelee Sequence, humans do colonise the sun |
| 20:00.37 | Monet | OluapPlayer: You could watch the Mars landing with your kids. |
| 20:00.48 | Monet | :> |
| 20:00.59 | OluapPlayer | Me with kids |
| 20:01.07 | OluapPlayer | Easier to land humans on Mars |
| 20:01.19 | Monet | Things might change in 10 years. |
| 20:01.31 | Quark8 | I'd be in my earlier 30's by then. |
| 20:01.48 | OluapPlayer | That being said i'd like to see Halley's Comet before I die |
| 20:02.02 | OluapPlayer | Just gotta survive until 2061 |
| 20:02.06 | OluapPlayer | Might be difficult |
| 20:02.24 | Hachiman | I want Halley's Comet to die before you see it |
| 20:02.31 | Xho | fucking savage |
| 20:02.33 | OluapPlayer | wow what did it do to you? |
| 20:02.41 | Hachiman | what did it ever do FOR me |
| 20:02.45 | Hachiman | nothing thats what |
| 20:03.16 | OluapPlayer | It owes you nothing, you on the other hand owes your life to it #panspermia |
| 20:03.25 | Wormy_away | If we live to get biological immortality, we'll live to get computerised immortality and could see the end of time |
| 20:03.44 | OluapPlayer | "there's literally nothing to do now" |
| 20:03.48 | Monet | Hailey's Comet flew over the battle of Hastings. |
| 20:03.54 | Wormy_away | *plays psychedelic space rock* |
| 20:04.07 | Hachiman | I hope I get biological immortality |
| 20:04.12 | Hachiman | Or at least a youth serum |
| 20:04.14 | Wormy_away | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3W7ch0oLeA |
| 20:04.30 | OluapPlayer | Do you fear death jack sparrow |
| 20:04.34 | Wormy_away | If I did become digitally immortal, I'd inhabit a spaceship |
| 20:04.42 | Monet | I already got a youth serum it's called a good diet, exercise and positive thinking. |
| 20:04.42 | Hachiman | My fear of death and what doesn't lie beyond is paramount |
| 20:05.03 | OluapPlayer | dat shit dont woerk you'll still die in the next 70 or 80 years |
| 20:05.07 | Xho | DO YUH FEER DETH JUCK SPURRUH |
| 20:05.21 | OluapPlayer | Pelagrios - yes actually |
| 20:05.26 | Wormy_away | I do not fear or loathe eternal oblivion. But I do not want to miss out on unfolding history |
| 20:05.30 | Xho | Monet: I have the good diet down but not the exercise and positive thinking |
| 20:05.31 | Monet | I'm almost 25, the year the body starts to give up on looking hot. |
| 20:05.59 | OluapPlayer | I lack all three of those |
| 20:06.03 | Hachiman | Except me or Oluap never looked hot |
| 20:06.05 | Xho | Then again my diet's good enough that exercise isn't stabbingly necessary |
| 20:06.11 | OluapPlayer | I'm probably not gonna see digital immortality |
| 20:06.41 | OluapPlayer | Which's a shame because it implies unlimited internet access |
| 20:06.52 | Xho | **I AM THE TINTERWEBS** |
| 20:07.01 | OluapPlayer | You don't play the new games, you ARE the new games |
| 20:07.14 | Monet | Digital Immortality I imagine would also be expensive at first. |
| 20:07.15 | Hachiman | I don't need digital immortality to play with myself |
| 20:07.21 | Wormy_away | Reason I have lost fear of death is quite possibly because I largely reject the flow of time as a fundamental; and if multiverses exist, there are infinitely many "I's", which makes sense. Finite life and eternal oblivion doesn't. I always existed and always will. |
| 20:07.33 | OluapPlayer | That sounded incredibly pathetic hur |
| 20:07.41 | Xho | I don't know if I fear death or not |
| 20:07.51 | Xho | I certainly don't fear other people's deaths |
| 20:07.55 | Cyrannian | Digital immortality would probably eat up your 4G |
| 20:08.17 | Monet | Cyrannian: Then be a smart perso nand don't upload via mobile. |
| 20:08.21 | OluapPlayer | I don't fear the concept of death. But I'd be pretty scared of experiencing it on the spot |
| 20:08.21 | Monet | or wifi |
| 20:08.42 | Wormy_away | I fear leaving other people behind, that's about it |
| 20:08.51 | Hachiman | I do; I know there's nothing beyond and the fact reincarnation probably isn't a thing either scares me |
| 20:09.02 | Xho | I kind of believe in reincarnation |
| 20:09.06 | Xho | Call that indian genes there |
| 20:09.16 | Hachiman | There are no second chances and I've wasted my life up until now, and will probably continue wasting it |
| 20:09.19 | Monet | I try not to let what lies beyond bother me. This life is what matters. |
| 20:09.21 | OluapPlayer | I've better things to worry about than if death is the ultimate end or not |
| 20:09.27 | Xho | I dunno I just refuse to believe there's an oblivion beyond the death of the body |
| 20:09.39 | Xho | It's never that absolute |
| 20:09.39 | OluapPlayer | you become mushroom foob |
| 20:09.44 | Xho | xhoshroom |
| 20:09.47 | Wormy_away | I don't, but like I say, it seems determinism + the possibility of multiverses make me exist simply because I have to, and infinitely many times. |
| 20:09.47 | Xho | acidic as fuk m8 |
| 20:09.55 | Monet | I like to focus on the passings of this world. |
| 20:10.24 | OluapPlayer | That depends on whether multiversal Wormys will let you still be able to feel the world |
| 20:10.35 | Hachiman | Which I doubt |
| 20:10.37 | Wormy_away | They won't |
| 20:10.41 | Monet | They're all Wormy. |
| 20:10.48 | Wormy_away | monet gets it |
| 20:11.01 | Monet | When one Wormy dies he will seamlessly share the body of another |
| 20:11.12 | Hachiman | But what about his memories |
| 20:11.22 | Monet | They'll go with him |
| 20:11.25 | OluapPlayer | That's saying they all share the same consciousness |
| 20:11.33 | OluapPlayer | That's kind of scary |
| 20:11.35 | Wormy_away | Actually, Monet doesn't get it :P |
| 20:11.38 | Hachiman | Remembering how you died is probably terrifying |
| 20:11.44 | Wormy_away | They all exist simultaneously is what I mean to say |
| 20:11.44 | OluapPlayer | Every living thing is a multiversal hivemind |
| 20:11.49 | Cyrannian | But what about the memories of your brain hosts, Wormy? |
| 20:11.56 | Wormy_away | Each with their own perception and memory |
| 20:12.04 | Monet | If he dies by car, He will see a car almost hit him but he'll otherwise feel fine. But back in the old reality the car hits him and he died on the road. |
| 20:12.25 | OluapPlayer | I get what you mean |
| 20:12.34 | Xho | We're all hyperdimensional objects protruding into 3D space :v |
| 20:12.43 | Wormy_away | They all exist simultaneously, for all time past, present and future, and in alternative spacetimes |
| 20:12.46 | OluapPlayer | ur not cool enuff to be hyper |
| 20:12.57 | Xho | wait until u c my MAGNUM DONG |
| 20:13.08 | Hachiman | MY MONSTER CONDOM |
| 20:13.13 | Wormy_away | If time doesn't flow then the three year olds we all were are still experiencing their now, now |
| 20:13.18 | Monet | There are Wormys out there that have lived a different life that our Wormy will nver experience. |
| 20:13.44 | Quark8 | Xho Hachiman: My BANANA BUNKER. |
| 20:13.49 | Xho | eugh |
| 20:13.56 | Monet | But if a car barrels towards him our wormy's consciousness will join the Wormy of the reality where the car stops just in time. |
| 20:14.07 | Wormy_away | There are Wormy's living such distant lives they gradually become someone-else too |
| 20:14.19 | Wormy_away | I won't go anywhere |
| 20:14.38 | Wormy_away | None of us go anywhere in this conception of reality |
| 20:14.40 | OluapPlayer | In short: Wormy achieved Nirvana and we are just specks of dust in the wind |
| 20:14.46 | Xho | Draguros - correct |
| 20:15.03 | Monet | OluapPLayer: Nah this is a suggestion that applies to all humans. |
| 20:15.14 | Monet | Wormy's just more aware of it. |
| 20:15.29 | Wormy_away | The events where I'm alive and dead are being experienced simultaneously |
| 20:15.45 | Monet | He's Schrodinger's Wormy. |
| 20:15.49 | Wormy_away | Or rather, just before death |
| 20:16.11 | OluapPlayer | Cover Wormy's back with toast and throw him off a table to see if he spins in place indefinitely |
| 20:16.16 | Xho | or is it |
| 20:16.20 | Xho | Wormy's Schrodinger |
| 20:16.21 | OluapPlayer | Butter even |
| 20:16.51 | Xho | OUR BOOLETS WILL PEERCE DEIR BRAINS LIKE BUTTA |
| 20:16.59 | Wormy_away | I actually thought of this to solve the uncomfortable feeling one gets when they realise they didn't always exist |
| 20:17.04 | OluapPlayer | outsmart boolet |
| 20:17.47 | Monet | I like to think our imaginationlands are like pocket realities that we visit when we sleep. |
| 20:17.58 | Wormy_away | Of course, its a nonsense idea. You only exist in the moments you define them, you don't exist in moments where you aren't present. |
| 20:18.24 | Wormy_away | But that also means I'm eternal |
| 20:18.28 | Monet | The brain is fooled enough to believe they are real. So in some respects, the dreamworld is real. |
| 20:19.22 | Monet | As honestly, t othe brain there is no real difference between reality and the dreamworld - it's all a perceptive reality created by the senses and the brain's assumptions. |
| 20:19.41 | Wormy_away | Did I just give everyone an existential crisis? |
| 20:19.54 | OluapPlayer | SporeWiki: Existential Crisis Edition |
| 20:20.03 | Monet | Oh no I came to that conclusion of mine years ago. |
| 20:20.21 | Xho | I have the Xhodocto card |
| 20:21.17 | Monet | Blame my level 3 psychology teacher who summed up the brain is an organ that exists in a lightless box that creates the world we see based on sensory information. |
| 20:21.35 | Monet | And its own guesswork |
| 20:21.57 | Wormy_away | My current existential crisis is a conjecture that dogs don't actually love us, their genes evolved to trick us into thinking they love us for easy access to food and bitches |
| 20:22.02 | Monet | The world looks shit partly because the information the brain is getting says it is shit. |
| 20:23.05 | OluapPlayer | Well, as long as they're happy, it shouldn't matter |
| 20:23.06 | Wormy_away | Monet: Its true, our brain reconstructs sensory information. We don't even see signals in our neurons we are that distant from reality |
| 20:23.51 | Wormy_away | In accordance to biological and cultural "programs" |
| 20:23.59 | Monet | They're as happy as one can be from a genetically-encoded serotonin injection created by hardcoded stimuli. |
| 20:24.26 | Wormy_away | The dog showing happiness might still be faking it |
| 20:24.27 | Monet | They're happy because we bred them to be happy with us as their caring masters. |
| 20:24.40 | Monet | to feel happy* |
| 20:25.19 | Wormy_away | But I have no good reason to believe this conjecture. I mean, their genes probablky didn't evolve strickly to trick us |
| 20:25.36 | Monet | Emotions and reality get depressing when you realise it's all electronic signals, trained neurons and well-timed chemical releases. |
| 20:25.49 | Wormy_away | Strictly |
| 20:26.22 | Monet | On the plus side, it demonstrates the brain is an amazingly plastic thing that can, with effort, be rewired - changing reality as a result. |
| 20:26.43 | Wormy_away | And they either could have inheraited a sense of affection from a common ancestor with us, or convergently |
| 20:27.12 | Monet | Through strategic use of the right stimuli, WE BECOME GOOODDDSS!!! |
| 20:27.22 | Wormy_away | It also means that all knowledge is actually conjectural, not derived from senses |
| 20:27.34 | Monet | BENDING (our perceptual) REALITY TO OUR WILL |
| 20:27.59 | Wormy_away | We can still use observations of course, but only criticise our conjectures |
| 20:28.40 | Wormy_away | Monet: Our conscious experience also lags because of the time it takes to sense something, process and make a decision |
| 20:29.16 | Monet | Starting to think it wasn't the flaws of the Bible that made me stop believing in God but my interest in the workings of the human brain. |
| 20:29.48 | Wormy_away | Here's something-else that is crazy: the difference in information content and structure between two human brains is probably greater than the information gap between bees and flowers |
| 20:30.14 | Monet | I can believe that. |
| 20:30.32 | Wormy_away | If that's the case then we are both really isolated from each other, but also really profound at communicating our meanings. |
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| 20:31.54 | Monet | Welcome back |
| 20:32.08 | Imperios | Monet: Been rewatching Civil War videos |
| 20:32.16 | Imperios | Is the Winter Soldier in English in the original? |
| 20:32.23 | Imperios | Freight wagon, homecoming, 17, that stuff? |
| 20:32.33 | OluapPlayer | My energy went out for no reason |
| 20:32.49 | Monet | Imperios: No, in the English release the words are Russian. |
| 20:33.07 | Imperios | That explains why they only became a meme in our parts |
| 20:34.47 | Monet | The entire first scene, with the Winter Soldier waking up, is done in Russian. |
| 20:36.28 | Monet | https://youtu.be/4lwCqcO3gb4?t=24s |
| 20:37.22 | Monet | (apologies for the subtitles) |
| 20:41.22 | Imperios | What's that with Marvel and its inability to hire authentic Russian speakers |
| 20:41.32 | Imperios | Whiplash and now this |
| 20:42.18 | Monet | Cold War possibly. |
| 20:42.38 | Xho | Mainly because the Winter Soldier isn't actually Russian |
| 20:42.39 | Monet | Whiplash looked to be more about star power because topless Mickey Rourke. |
| 20:43.15 | Monet | Xho: He's lived long enough as a Hyrdra kill-bot he should be fluent. |
| 20:43.31 | Xho | I guess |
| 20:44.01 | Monet | Zemo's use of Russian I'm not sure. Sokovia was on/near the Russian border. |
| 20:44.37 | Monet | But when interrogating that Hydra agent, both appeared to be speaking English. |
| 20:45.09 | Xho | I don't know anything about Russian as a language so I couldn't comment on the pronunciation |
| 20:45.14 | Xho | Although it sounds better than not |
| 20:45.33 | Monet | That's often what non-fluent speakers get wrong isn't it? |
| 20:45.46 | Xho | For languages like Russian I guess |
| 20:46.42 | Xho | Languages like Mandarin are bitches for pronunciation |
| 20:48.15 | Monet | I think the idea for Russian is unless you get the pronunciation right you sound like a simpleton. |
| 20:49.05 | Xho | Probably |
| 20:49.11 | Xho | The grammar's hard from what I can gather |
| 20:50.24 | Monet | Good Russian = Excuse me can you halp a friend out?, Bad Russian = Me friend. You help? Please need help. |
| 20:50.35 | Monet | I think. Imperios is the expert |
| 20:50.55 | OluapPlayer | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8410qUT4QtA Cyrannus club music |
| 20:52.03 | Monet | But yeah in terms of where he was born, Winter Soldier is a Yankee doodle. |
| 20:55.50 | Monet | ALs ostarted watching Agents of SHield again. |
| 20:57.02 | Monet | They set the events for the creation of Graviton in one of the first episodes but it's been over five seasons and we have yet to see him again. |
| 20:57.34 | Monet | That and we got to see Jasper Sitwell a good while before he was in Winter Soldier. |
| 21:06.17 | dino82_ | oh have to leave |
| 21:06.19 | dino82_ | bye bye all |
| 21:06.23 | dino82_ | Till next time............. |
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| 21:26.16 | Wormy_away | hi |
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| 21:28.27 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/d6iaymt |
| 21:31.19 | Wormy_ | I have a story like that post |
| 21:31.56 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 21:32.49 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:33.10 | Wormy_ | I was about three or four at the time |
| 21:33.14 | DrodoEmpire | Yikes XS |
| 21:33.17 | DrodoEmpire | *XD |
| 21:33.27 | DrodoEmpire | Eh yeah, you were naive, didn't know any better |
| 21:33.41 | Wormy_ | Hachiman and Monet might remember Oatis |
| 21:34.12 | Monet | Yeah I think I remember him |
| 21:41.27 | Cyrannian | Rite guys, finally installing my new graphics card |
| 21:42.08 | Cyrannian | So far so good, nothing has exploded |
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| 21:42.47 | Monet | That's usually a very good hardware sign. |
| 21:42.49 | Monet | Hi |
| 21:58.41 | Xho | ~seen Xho |
| 21:58.47 | infobot | xho is currently on #sporewiki (11h 48m 43s). Has said a total of 235 messages. Is idling for 6s, last said: '~seen Xho'. |
| 21:58.54 | Xho | 2long |
| 21:59.44 | OluapPlayer | wat u doin |
| 22:00.00 | Xho | Watching a film atm |
| 22:27.09 | Xho | Dunno what happened to my capacity of having late nights and sleeping in |
| 22:27.12 | Xho | gettin' tough |
| 23:14.07 | Wormy_ | DrodoEmpire: When a dad joke collides with an SJW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aVna3HohXI |
| 23:15.46 | DrodoEmpire | Ahhm Hugh Mungus |
| 23:15.55 | DrodoEmpire | The savior of western civilization |
| 23:17.07 | DrodoEmpire | (I have seen the video, hilarious how she tries to twist a silly pun [I presume, there's every possibility Hugh Mungus *is* buddy's real name] in to "sexual harrassment") |
| 23:17.26 | Wormy_ | lol |
| 23:17.44 | DrodoEmpire | (I mean, there was at least one US mayor named "Harry Balls") |
| 23:17.59 | DrodoEmpire | (Was it "Baals"? No matter) |
| 23:19.01 | Monet | New trailer for Civ VI |
| 23:19.32 | DrodoEmpire | Oh? |
| 23:19.33 | Monet | Mvemba Nzinga/Alfonso I of the kingdom of Kongo. |
| 23:19.38 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 23:20.51 | Monet | Gameplay appears to focus on the kingdom's conversion to Catholicism by the Portuguese. |
| 23:21.08 | Wormy_ | "The Cult of Outrage" YES YES that is what it is |
| 23:21.10 | DrodoEmpire | That's pretty cool actually |
| 23:21.27 | DrodoEmpire | Actually speaking of which |
| 23:21.35 | Wormy_ | People want to literally be outraged whenever the fuck they want to be |
| 23:21.38 | DrodoEmpire | is Kongo in my EUIV game catholic- ah, seems not |
| 23:21.40 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 23:21.44 | DrodoEmpire | Outrage culture |
| 23:21.58 | Wormy_ | so they create massive, broad definitions to trigger themselves |
| 23:22.06 | DrodoEmpire | Honestly I like Milo Yiannopoulos' quote on it- "The only appropriate response to Outrage Culture is to be outrageous" |
| 23:22.11 | DrodoEmpire | Not to be cowed by it |
| 23:22.26 | Wormy_ | Its almost consumerist-idelogy, like wearing outrage like a fashion |
| 23:22.26 | Monet | I was going to say that sounds a bit like British moaning but we tend to keep that between ourselves. |
| 23:23.06 | Wormy_ | yeah |
| 23:23.18 | Wormy_ | Is dogooder culture squared |
| 23:26.30 | Monet | This seems like a slight product of the social justice classes. THese people have poor job prospects so all they can do is complain. |
| 23:27.14 | DrodoEmpire | Absolutely |
| 23:27.54 | Monet | Seems to be all they can do. |
| 23:30.28 | Monet | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61wJPNJgZQ Colbert is shown some robots |
| 23:38.45 | Wormy_ | Watching the full video, oh god, it only gets worse, she is protesting/gate crashing the guy's interview which had a positive image of cops |
| 23:39.12 | Wormy_ | These people feel threatened and oppressed by other people's opinions |
| 23:39.35 | The_Randomness | that's pretty silly |
| 23:40.06 | Wormy_ | they are essentially thought-police, or more precisely, a thought-mob |
| 23:41.02 | The_Randomness | This makes me think of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgNSTBDEV4U |
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| 23:45.30 | Wormy_ | "Why did you not do anything to stop him sexually harassing me" ... Because you didn't report it to the, duh. You just created a scene |
| 23:45.48 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 23:49.05 | Liquid_Ink | What? |
| 23:50.20 | Wormy_ | "Why would I call the cops when they act like pigs?" |
| 23:51.01 | Wormy_ | I'm repeating quotes from a woman who claimed she was sexually harrasssed when a man said his name was "Hugh Mungus" to her |
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| 23:52.52 | DrodoAway | brb |
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