| 00:00.25 | Charles_Murray | According to the article, Bin Laden was actually there |
| 00:00.37 | Charles_Murray | But escaped into Pakistan |
| 00:04.35 | Wormy_ | Hiding in caves, not super fortresses |
| 00:04.47 | Charles_Murray | Right |
| 00:04.57 | Charles_Murray | Claiming that there was a super fortress makes no sense |
| 00:05.24 | Wormy_ | To be fair, information in war is never always clear at the time and mistakes abound |
| 00:05.55 | Monet_2 | This was more like a snowball |
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| 00:08.35 | Hachiman | Hi again |
| 00:08.38 | Monet_2 | We understood Al Qaeda were using caves in Tora Bora as bolt-holes and weapon stashes. Their presence and wild speculation on the threat of the organisation snowballed until what media tried selling that Bin Laden was running an evil Tracy Island |
| 00:08.40 | Monet_2 | Hi |
| 00:08.45 | Hachiman | ALLAHU ACKBAR |
| 00:09.32 | Charles_Murray | Yeah, that seems likely. Or the Northern Alliance gave them that intel in order to convince them to intervene decisively |
| 00:09.36 | Charles_Murray | And overwhelmingly |
| 00:09.49 | Charles_Murray | because getting America to give that level of support otherwise is pretty difficult |
| 00:10.35 | Wormy_ | The media, but it appears in convinced people in the government and military as well, creating an exaggerated phantom enemy. And that oversimplification creates mistakes in engaging with the real threat, and unfortunately negatively effected many people. |
| 00:10.53 | Hachiman | Media Gear Solid V: The Phantom Enemy |
| 00:12.27 | Monet_2 | Yeah. By the time of the Iraq War, if not earlier or later, the picture painted was Bin Laden and his inner circle were genius supervillains. |
| 00:13.30 | Monet_2 | The terrorist mastermind who threatened all of Western society as we know it. |
| 00:15.24 | Wormy_ | Arguably it is quite a convenient myth for those pushing that agenda |
| 00:15.45 | Monet_2 | I swear I remember suggestions in the early 2000s that Al Quaeda were so deeply networked in Europe and America they came off as some Bond-like shadow oganisation. |
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| 00:17.29 | Wormy_ | I've read about people in the US (particularly from places like Afganistan), at the time getting wrongly accused of being in sleeper cells |
| 00:18.40 | Monet_2 | Yeah doesn't seem too surprising that whatever myths were envisioned about the KGB were transplanted to Al Qaeda. |
| 00:18.48 | Wormy_ | With evidence unfairly mountain against them, i.e. doodles on a piece of scrap paper having hidden meanings in the eyes of experts |
| 00:18.52 | Wormy_ | *mounted |
| 00:20.06 | NeonPanda | "People are stupid, easy to scare animals, and they're even stupider when they're scared." |
| 00:23.12 | Monet_2 | Mainstream media appeared obsessed with painting Bin Laden as anything but a normal, if well-connected man with a feeling of nothing left to lose. |
| 00:23.50 | Technobliterator | I remember when Bin Laden died |
| 00:23.59 | Technobliterator | and the first thhing my friends did was post conspiracy theories about how he was still alive |
| 00:24.04 | The_Randomness | >_> |
| 00:24.22 | Monet_2 | Technobliterator: Exactly |
| 00:24.42 | Monet_2 | "how could such a dangerous and super-clever man die so easily?" |
| 00:25.06 | The_Randomness | with a bullet to the head |
| 00:25.10 | Technobliterator | But like, why would Obama lie about that, guys |
| 00:25.26 | Technobliterator | If it turns out to be a lie it backfires badly and he loses badly |
| 00:27.01 | Monet_2 | Maybe it was like with the USSR - people were in such shock that he's finally dead they had a personal crisis of "what next" |
| 00:27.08 | Monet_2 | The ISIL emerged. |
| 00:27.36 | Monet_2 | For a few days we all probably thought the war on terror was over |
| 00:27.45 | Technobliterator | I can see why it was hard to believe |
| 00:27.49 | Technobliterator | It was hard to believe it when Michael Jackson died as well |
| 00:28.03 | Technobliterator | Not that you didn't believe it happened |
| 00:28.09 | Technobliterator | but it just came out of nowhere |
| 00:28.49 | Hachiman | I like how people make conspiracies about Osama still being alive due to not seeing him die yet when Saddam Hussein gets publicly executed they call barbarism |
| 00:29.35 | Technobliterator | Do people still believe he's alive? |
| 00:29.55 | Hachiman | Most definitely |
| 00:29.58 | Monet_2 | Some people still hope Elvis is still alive so maybe. |
| 00:30.05 | Wormy_ | I wasn't expecting it, yet at the time I remember remarking how Micheal Jackson had advertised his last tour was called "This Is It" |
| 00:30.33 | Wormy_ | Elvis would be pretty old by now |
| 00:30.56 | Hachiman | People still think Tupac, Elvis, and MJ are still alive; there are even people who think that Hitler did not actually commit suicide and instead immigrated to Brazil |
| 00:31.09 | Wormy_ | Or the Moon |
| 00:31.20 | Monet_2 | Hachiman: I think you mean Argentina |
| 00:31.29 | Technobliterator | People watch Infowars |
| 00:31.30 | Technobliterator | so |
| 00:33.49 | Monet_2 | One of the dark things about having great volumes of information is that quite often, people gravitate towards the information that comforts them. |
| 00:34.13 | Monet_2 | Not always the information that is true |
| 00:34.15 | Wormy_ | To sum up my earlier rant; I don't buy into conspiracies, but its not a tall order to believe myths are perpetuated by powerful figures, sometimes on purpose, and sometimes by their own beliefs that have affected government policy. |
| 00:36.04 | Monet_2 | "God is dead, we have killed him, but something must occupy the void for the world to make sense" |
| 00:36.27 | Wormy_ | Neoconservatism for example has its routes in Leo Strauss, who belioeved individualiosm was decaying American liberal values. He believed that it would be okay to nudge people away from individualism using myths that would unite them, if it would save the kind of nation he believed was decaying |
| 00:40.00 | Wormy_ | Hence, it might be useful for neoconservatives, and perhaps many other ideologies, to portray an black and white rationality of the world. |
| 00:40.26 | Wormy_ | Which almost always fails because the world is complex and dynamic |
| 00:40.36 | Monet_2 | Nothing unites a community more than a common enemy and a common virtue. |
| 00:42.27 | Wormy_ | I had hoped that people were waking up to these myths, the first to die was the utopian dreams peddled for the 21st century, and then secondly fears peddled about terrorism |
| 00:43.35 | Wormy_ | Actually, that people doubt the mainstream story told to them by media, even if for the wrong reasons (not bringing them any closer to the truth) might actually be a positive sign in this sense |
| 00:44.55 | Wormy_ | However, it seems social media can be even more isolating and confusing, because people end up receiving their information from their ow echochambers, once again simplifying their views of the world |
| 00:46.10 | Monet_2 | The dangerous thing is that by turning away from maintream media and developing an anti-establishment worldview, they risk becoming prey to anti-establishment sensationalism. |
| 00:46.29 | Wormy_ | Even the whole idea that social media can spur revolutions towards democracy, also cut short. |
| 00:46.40 | Wormy_ | yes |
| 00:47.01 | drom | Wormy_: http://i.imgur.com/28Zfpp2.jpg |
| 00:47.25 | Wormy_ | Perhaps one day people will be far more wary and critical of the information they receive from all sources |
| 00:47.29 | drom | Which reminds me, I could brighten Xho's week with more pictures of fluffy animals. |
| 00:47.52 | Wormy_ | Social media is still a recent phenomenon and society has a long time to adapt to it |
| 00:48.16 | Monet_2 | It's become hip to cry "wake up sheeple" by spouting rhetoric that paints the establishment as an unashamed threat to life and liberty. |
| 00:49.07 | Monet_2 | SO ironically these people exchange one shepherd for another. |
| 00:49.37 | Wormy_ | drom: cute |
| 00:54.01 | Wormy_ | Monet_2: With this in mind its easy to reject NWO/illuminati conspiracies. There may be groups like that that try to control the world. But they can't, nobody can say they have control https://youtu.be/McRIVsEHXCo?t=3m4s |
| 00:56.27 | Monet_2 | I had a guest lecturer who started his talk by saying "The truth is no one knows what they're doing" |
| 00:58.16 | Monet_2 | It's easy to assume "oh the rich control everything they have all the money" |
| 00:58.48 | Monet_2 | It's hard to rule the world when you are in contant competition with your peers. |
| 00:58.58 | Wormy_ | yes, it seems to me that the core of all knowledge acquisition is trial and error experimentation and fallible conjecture. As Karl Popper said, "Science must begin with myths, and with the criticism of myths." |
| 00:59.58 | Wormy_ | we're all using imperfect models of the world, whether they be scientific, economic or political |
| 01:00.14 | Monet_2 | Ineed. |
| 01:00.55 | Monet_2 | The simple explanation of "no one is in control" is completely counter to the perception of an organsied world. |
| 01:03.30 | Wormy_ | Economists don't fully understand how to manage the economy, it was believed (and probably still is) that it can always self-sustain and equilibrium, especially using computers. And that simplification might have lead to the financial crisis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efficient-market_hypothesis |
| 01:03.57 | Wormy_ | So when people try to pin all world control on them, its hopelessly false. |
| 01:04.31 | Monet_2 | "let the market sort it out" |
| 01:05.00 | Monet_2 | Another possibility is economists assume either someone else will see the problem and fix it, or they gather the capital to fix the issue themselves. |
| 01:05.14 | Technobliterator | I think that that mentality is exactly what led to the 2008 crash |
| 01:05.44 | DrodoEmpire | Technobliterator: I think a *lot* of corruption and irresponsible banks went in to that >.< |
| 01:05.54 | Technobliterator | Of course |
| 01:05.54 | DrodoEmpire | Less that economists didn't see it coming |
| 01:05.59 | Technobliterator | But deregulation didn't help |
| 01:06.01 | DrodoEmpire | I'm sure they did, they're smart people |
| 01:06.24 | DrodoEmpire | Oh yeah letting the banks do dumb shit in the first place definitely was the problem |
| 01:06.44 | Technobliterator | like repealing Glass Steagall |
| 01:06.48 | Monet_2 | Like go crazy with handing out loans? |
| 01:06.51 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 01:06.54 | DrodoEmpire | To Tech |
| 01:16.31 | Monet_2 | goodnight |
| 01:19.39 | DrodoEmpire | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKX-k4qVJT0 best cheater na |
| 01:20.12 | Wormy_ | There's a claim in this documentary by Curtis that leading up to the 2008 collapse, the stability (without inflation) of the economic boom was confirmation to many economists that their theory of the market managing itself was correct, when actually it was being managed by China's Politburo by buying government bonds while flooding in cheap goods at a low exchange rate, causing banks to lend too much money https://vimeo.com/groups/ |
| 01:38.11 | Wormy_ | goodnight |
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| 01:49.58 | Quark8 | Hello. |
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| 02:19.57 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 02:20.02 | Tybusen | Hello |
| 03:48.04 | DrodoEmpire | Does anybody have any recent events happening in their fiction? |
| 03:48.24 | DrodoEmpire | I'm gonna get roooooooooooooooooooooooooight in to the newwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwws soon with the Klaxon <.< |
| 04:05.17 | Tybusen | Unfortunately, besides the Marko Colonial War most of my fiction happenings right now are in the realm of history |
| 04:05.49 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh, kk |
| 04:06.31 | Tybusen | Busy with the First Bunsen War rewrite and filling out character bios |
| 04:07.01 | Tybusen | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Mikos_Saladot Currently working on this guy who's essentially the Bunsen Grox Ataturk |
| 04:08.45 | Tybusen | I'm trying to decide if it makes more sense from a political perspective to have him start his revolution when he's a high-ranked military officer or after he's retired from active military service |
| 04:08.55 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh, so I see |
| 04:10.18 | Tybusen | From a character perspective, he would have probably retired from the military before starting his movement since he didn't like some of the actions the Bunsen Grox Empire was taken militarily |
| 04:10.46 | Tybusen | But from a political perspective, it seems like he would have more resources at his disposal if he launched it while still a general in the army |
| 04:12.01 | DrodoEmpire | True |
| 04:12.52 | DrodoEmpire | Though he may have more influence with a full career behind him and (presumbably) a lot of respect |
| 04:13.23 | Tybusen | True, though the war I would think he would have retired after ends roughly 50 years before the First Bunsen War |
| 04:14.02 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 04:14.19 | Tybusen | Though, maybe he took up politics after retiring from the military so he could keep up a public profile and influence network |
| 04:14.53 | DrodoEmpire | Could be yeah |
| 04:43.20 | NeonPanda | alrighty, having interposed work on fiction with housework, giant enemy space crabs are now a coherent concept |
| 04:43.45 | NeonPanda | for those who don't know, making a couple of T4 fictions to throw at each other in a war because reasons, as that's the sort of thing that interests me |
| 04:46.31 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm okay |
| 04:49.17 | NeonPanda | I can appreciate peoples' interest in diplomacy, and other peoples' interests in high-end theoretical sci-fi, I just prefer a good old fashioned scrap and that's what I like writing about, so that's what I'm gonna write about |
| 04:52.28 | NeonPanda | as far as space crabs go, biologically speaking they hail from a higher oxygen density and humidity planet, being about the size of a large bear |
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| 04:54.58 | NeonPanda | these organisms operating in association with a cephalopoid species that are more intelligent in the traditional sense (crabs are still sentient and pretty intelligent, just the cephalopoids are the brains of the operation) |
| 05:00.04 | NeonPanda | these two races developing somewhat in tandem, the industrialisation of their homeworld rapidly depleting its resources to the point of investing in space travel as a means of acquiring new resources, spaceborne invader society ensues |
| 05:06.37 | NeonPanda | as far as the stabby end goes, giant space crabs and I don't really need to say much more than that |
| 05:08.38 | DrodoEmpire | right, interesting |
| 05:09.54 | NeonPanda | I did also have the stray idea that in order to cope with alien environments, said crabs would probably have artificial lungs implanted into their bodies |
| 05:16.47 | DrodoEmpire | I see |
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| 07:58.15 | Tybusen | Damn it, Pastie is down |
| 08:02.49 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
| 08:05.25 | Tybusen | Hai |
| 08:20.14 | Tybusen | ImpyDroid: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Mikos_Saladot atagrox, grox greattest country |
| 08:20.46 | Tybusen | Not finished yet but the summary is there which is enough for now |
| 08:57.15 | ImpyDroid | Tybusen: It ain't easy being green |
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| 09:02.16 | Tybusen | The thing about Saladot is that he's the kind of guy who doesn't think anyone else can continue his vision of a "perfect" Bunsen Grox Republic |
| 09:02.40 | Tybusen | So he'll just stay in power until he shits the bed on something and someone finally manages to legitimately challenge him for the Chancellorship |
| 09:02.45 | Tybusen | Hai Xho |
| 09:02.57 | Xho | bok |
| 09:03.14 | Tybusen | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Mikos_Saladot Started working on the page for this guy |
| 09:05.06 | Xho | >grox |
| 09:05.07 | Xho | >GROX |
| 09:05.19 | Tybusen | but |
| 09:05.21 | Tybusen | nice grox |
| 09:05.34 | Xho | GROX |
| 09:05.50 | Tybusen | xorg |
| 09:06.06 | Liquid_Ink | gorx |
| 09:06.20 | Xho | I would've thought he'd be older than 160 if he was born in 1278 SY |
| 09:06.38 | Tybusen | 4 SY = 1 regular year |
| 09:06.50 | Xho | this i was not aware of |
| 09:06.53 | Tybusen | In-universe date is roughly 1944 SY |
| 09:06.54 | Xho | That explains it |
| 09:07.21 | Tybusen | So actually he's still a little older than 160 actually |
| 09:07.49 | Tybusen | Actually he's 666 SY old |
| 09:07.56 | Xho | ahah i beat the system |
| 09:08.29 | Tybusen | in soviet russia system beats you |
| 09:09.29 | Xho | It actually did which was the bad thing |
| 09:10.07 | Tybusen | in soviet ottzello system ASSUMES DIRECT CONTROL |
| 09:12.26 | Tybusen | I'm pretty sure that Saladot speaks almost exclusively in poetic phrases or quotable soundbites |
| 09:12.44 | Xho | could be a xhodocto |
| 09:12.46 | Xho | watch out |
| 09:13.19 | Tybusen | > 666 SY old |
| 09:13.43 | Xho | c |
| 09:13.52 | ImpyDroid | Tybusen: "I am Mikos Saladot, and I approve this message" |
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| 09:15.16 | Imperios | Tybusen: I actually wonder |
| 09:15.49 | Tybusen | "I am Mikos Saladot, and it's my conviction that the beliefs stated here resonate with my own and are worthy to be echoed in the halls of the Republic government" |
| 09:15.49 | Imperios | Just how individual are Bunsen Grox? |
| 09:15.59 | Tybusen | Very individual |
| 09:16.15 | Imperios | Like, they do not have *anything* resembling a group mind or something like that |
| 09:16.19 | Tybusen | They make a big deal out of avoiding becoming too collectivist |
| 09:16.21 | Imperios | Not even a very weak one |
| 09:16.32 | Tybusen | Their founders were exiles of the original Empire |
| 09:17.16 | Tybusen | They were sent to colonize Bunsen since old Bunsen was believed to be barren and incapable of supporting large-scale space civilization |
| 09:18.01 | Tybusen | They have no group mind because they were founded on the principle of rejecting it |
| 09:20.30 | Imperios | right |
| 09:21.43 | Tybusen | Early Bunsen Grox - maaaaaaan i ain't a part of your system |
| 09:37.40 | Xho | Which user was it that hated heavy music |
| 09:37.50 | Xho | Like he couldn't listen to anything heavier than Coldplay or something |
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| 10:10.37 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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| 12:05.48 | OluapPlayer | hi |
| 12:07.04 | Monet | on and off atm, helping new students move into halls but it's not very busy right now |
| 12:09.35 | Monet | Most of them came yesterday |
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| 12:17.26 | Hachiman | Hi |
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| 13:11.53 | Wormy_ | we're doomed |
| 13:12.19 | Wormy_ | God has abandoned us. |
| 13:13.52 | Technobliterator | it's ok, there are still ops here |
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| 13:38.03 | ImpyDroid2 | Xho: Was at a Nepalese festival today |
| 13:38.12 | ImpyDroid2 | The Hindu lection was entertaining |
| 13:38.38 | ImpyDroid2 | I like how the Indian way of dealing with holy men is throwing hot girls at them |
| 13:40.40 | Wormy_ | Lol |
| 13:49.56 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S77yann_Rko Snorlax becomes an Aztec God of Fitness |
| 13:51.31 | ImpyDroid2 | Hachiman: MY OILED STOMACH QUIVERS AT YOUR VOICE |
| 13:51.43 | Hachiman | kek |
| 13:52.10 | Hachiman | Which reminds me, Alfabusa hasn't uploaded in a while |
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| 13:56.01 | OluapPlayer_ | Fucking shit |
| 13:56.15 | OluapPlayer_ | Alfabusa's videos take a long time to make. He said on his twitter yesterday that the next TTS video will be over 30 minutes long |
| 13:57.37 | Hachiman | Oh cool |
| 13:58.01 | Hachiman | I can imagine they take a while to make |
| 14:11.13 | Xho | ImpyDroid2: Might be related to brahmacharya |
| 14:14.22 | Xho | Hm what to do |
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| 14:15.00 | Hachiman | Fantasyverse plantfolk |
| 14:15.04 | N3therIsHere | hi |
| 14:15.32 | Hachiman | Hello |
| 14:16.43 | Xho | meow |
| 14:18.11 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 14:19.17 | Xho | Well I'm selling my 1080 and putting it towards my new desktop |
| 14:19.36 | Xho | bad idea trying to change that |
| 14:24.09 | Monet2 | Should get a fair amount for it |
| 14:25.38 | Xho | Half price probably since it's been opened and messed around with |
| 14:26.12 | Xho | I just need to figure out how to transfer data from my old HDD to the new one |
| 14:29.57 | ImpyDroid2 | Hachiman: Now I want to make a race of sexy dryads |
| 14:30.24 | Hachiman | Go ahead hur |
| 14:30.46 | Hachiman | I did consider dryads for a while but I've no confidence in the Editor to make them look good anymore |
| 14:33.44 | ImpyDroid2 | Xho: Also I like how unlike Christianity, where ascetism simply purifies your soul |
| 14:33.56 | ImpyDroid2 | In Hinduism, ascetism gives you *POWERS* |
| 14:34.22 | ImpyDroid2 | "I DID NOT FUCK GIRLS IN 30 YEARS, I AM A POWERFUL SADHI" |
| 14:35.27 | ImpyDroid2 | saddhi |
| 14:35.30 | ImpyDroid2 | saddhu |
| 14:35.30 | Hachiman | Powers derived from virginity; sounds like Hachi's kind of superpower |
| 14:35.41 | ImpyDroid2 | Je ne comprends pas hindi |
| 14:36.06 | ImpyDroid2 | or l'hindi even |
| 14:37.04 | ImpyDroid2 | Hachiman: Which is why Hindu gods apparently removed too powerful holy men by summoning seductresses to distract them |
| 14:37.23 | Hachiman | That's awesome hur |
| 14:38.00 | Xho | I just realised I lost my ZBrush license |
| 14:38.05 | Xho | is marginally angry |
| 14:38.38 | Hachiman | It ran out? |
| 14:38.51 | Xho | My hard drive is botched |
| 14:39.09 | Xho | Hopefully I can get to it and fix it |
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| 14:54.28 | dino82_ | hi |
| 14:54.31 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 14:56.30 | Hachiman | So, I was watching Crash Course World History last night and went through a vid about the historical bias of Herodotus in regards to the Greeks and the antagonism of the Persian Empire |
| 14:58.16 | Hachiman | Kind of funny how we treat the Spartans as the protagonists of the Battle of Thermopylae and Athens as a place of peace, rational thought, and scholarly learning when slavery was one of the factors that drove their conflict against the Achaemenids, whose Zoroastrian faith prohibited slavery |
| 14:58.43 | Hachiman | Slavery also being a major focus and foundation in Greek culture and society at the time |
| 15:01.07 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah the Persians *really* weren't that bad |
| 15:01.48 | Xho | Well it's the west vs east trope |
| 15:03.41 | Xho | The forefront of the occident at that time was Greece and anything further east of Greece was foreign and therefore a threat |
| 15:03.47 | Hachiman | I've heard it said that if one was to be alive between 500 BC - 300 BC, the Achaemenid Empire was one of the best places to live if you were a commoner |
| 15:04.59 | Xho | They were the most powerful Empire in the world up until a point I guess |
| 15:05.35 | Xho | Then it was the Macedonians |
| 15:06.36 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: Didn't a lot of Western empires following the decline of the Achaemenids actually borrow and follow a lot of the systems that the Achaemenids used? |
| 15:07.02 | Hachiman | I know that the Achaemenids had a lasting influence over the West |
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| 15:07.06 | Hachiman | Hi Imp |
| 15:07.07 | DrodoEmpire | There was a lot of cultural exchange in general yes |
| 15:07.14 | Imperios | Hiya |
| 15:07.15 | DrodoEmpire | I'm no expert but I do know that |
| 15:07.24 | Hachiman | We were just discussing the Achaemenid Empire and Greek historical bias |
| 15:07.31 | Imperios | Exactly |
| 15:07.34 | Xho | The Persians had notable control over northern Greece in a geographical sense |
| 15:07.45 | Imperios | The Greek view of Thermopylae is BLASPHEMY |
| 15:07.48 | Imperios | It is MADNESS |
| 15:07.58 | Hachiman | dis is spurtur |
| 15:08.26 | Xho | I would have liked to see a war between 19th Dynasty Egypt and the Persians under Xerxes |
| 15:08.31 | Imperios | But yeah the Greeks were very biased against their enemies, which is why our view of Persia was skewed |
| 15:08.39 | Imperios | But I am also skewed towards Persians |
| 15:08.47 | Imperios | *is skewed |
| 15:08.50 | Imperios | *I am also biased |
| 15:09.01 | Imperios | I am having one of these dyslexic phases again |
| 15:09.56 | Xho | Well, I'd go with the Persians under Xerxes actually |
| 15:10.14 | Xho | The Egyptians weren't all that advanced really |
| 15:10.35 | Xho | Maybe for their time but not in 500 BC onwards |
| 15:11.04 | Hachiman | egyptians were noob-ians |
| 15:11.58 | Xho | Kind of why they were conquered in 500 BC or thereabous |
| 15:12.01 | Xho | thereabouts |
| 15:25.33 | Imperios | Interestingly enough, the Battle for Thermopylae was actually more or less even in terms of size |
| 15:25.38 | Imperios | Of the opposing armies that is |
| 15:26.00 | Imperios | The only difference was that the two sides used different tactics, and the Persians had an advantage of having a regular army |
| 15:26.08 | Imperios | Whereas Greeks were mostly militia |
| 15:26.23 | Imperios | With the exception of the Spartans, but even they were technically militia citizens |
| 15:26.39 | Imperios | It's just that Spartan citizenship was very elitist |
| 15:26.56 | Imperios | TBH Sparta if you think about it was a pretty terrible place |
| 15:27.37 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: ...No, the Greeks were significantly outnumbered |
| 15:27.50 | DrodoEmpire | The modern estimate for the Greek army size is ~20 000 |
| 15:28.05 | DrodoEmpire | The most conservative estimate for the Persian army size is 70 000 |
| 15:28.42 | DrodoEmpire | You weren't kidding when you said you had a Persian bias. :p |
| 15:28.44 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: That's still comparable, it wasn't actuially an overwhelming size advantage that the historians portrayed it as |
| 15:28.56 | DrodoEmpire | That's not at all comparable |
| 15:29.09 | DrodoEmpire | The Greeks were outnumbered three to one |
| 15:29.09 | Imperios | Alrighty, my bad |
| 15:29.16 | Imperios | Anyway |
| 15:29.37 | DrodoEmpire | *over three to one |
| 15:30.07 | Imperios | So you got to live in a state where most of the population were slaves and an artistocratic warrior caste commited regular ethnic purges and pogroms against the common people |
| 15:30.22 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah Sparta was awful |
| 15:30.28 | Imperios | All while being the poorest Greek city state |
| 15:31.51 | Imperios | Actually if you think about it - Sparta was a state that, although playing a significant role in Greek politics at the time, was dirt-poor, plagued by hatred, and had an extremely skewed distribution of wealth |
| 15:32.01 | Imperios | ...Sparta was Ancient Russia |
| 15:32.15 | DrodoEmpire | (Modern estimates peak at 300k as well, which makes the Greeks outnumbered well over *ten* to one) |
| 15:32.37 | Hachiman | Athenians weren't much better |
| 15:33.09 | Imperios | At the very least they did not commit purges against their population, and did not have *as* many slaves |
| 15:33.09 | Hachiman | They were supposed to be a democratic state by the time that Herodotus was forced to commit suicide and the slaughter of Melos |
| 15:33.21 | DrodoEmpire | Athenians were a bit better- at the very least, they were cultured and had a democracy (though, a democracy for the aristocracy) |
| 15:33.24 | Imperios | And were not an ethnocracy |
| 15:33.41 | DrodoEmpire | Democracy meant something quite different from it does now |
| 15:33.51 | Imperios | De jure democratic but de facto oligarchic |
| 15:33.55 | Imperios | A bit like Ancient America |
| 15:34.00 | Imperios | History repeats hur |
| 15:34.21 | DrodoEmpire | I hear Corinth was cool |
| 15:34.28 | DrodoEmpire | They were a big trade city |
| 15:35.47 | Imperios | Hachiman DrodoEmpire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvtvjo3fPsQ Holy shit the comments |
| 15:35.49 | Imperios | I fucking love them hur |
| 15:38.22 | DrodoEmpire | "t. alberto barbosa" ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy lmao |
| 15:38.56 | Imperios | I personally want Israel, an Islamic Persia and some Caucasian nation |
| 15:39.00 | Imperios | Like Georgia or Armenia |
| 15:39.19 | DrodoEmpire | Isreal would be interesting |
| 15:39.28 | DrodoEmpire | I'd like to see something like Sumer or Akkad as we;; |
| 15:39.30 | DrodoEmpire | *well |
| 15:39.45 | DrodoEmpire | Bronze age is underrated as a time period |
| 15:39.51 | ImpyDroid | I believe Sumer will be in Civ VI |
| 15:39.56 | DrodoEmpire | Cool cool |
| 15:40.18 | Hachiman | Needs Gilgamesh as its ruler and Enkidu somewhere else |
| 15:40.24 | ImpyDroid | They were mentioned in the leak |
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| 15:40.31 | ImpyDroid | That so far was correct every time |
| 15:41.08 | ImpyDroid | http://well-of-souls.com/civ/images/civ6_portrait_bingo2.jpg There |
| 15:42.11 | Hachiman | Gilgamesh will be best because he's like an early historic Superman |
| 15:42.23 | Imperios | According to this, we will have both Pericles, which would be Athens |
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| 15:42.48 | Imperios | *we will have two Greek leaders: Pericles, who stands for Athens |
| 15:42.50 | Imperios | And... |
| 15:42.55 | Imperios | Gorgo, Queen of SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 15:43.00 | Hachiman | noice |
| 15:43.09 | Imperios | *Insert anti-feminist complaint* |
| 15:43.09 | Hachiman | Gilgamesh is 1/3 human and 2/3 god so |
| 15:43.29 | Imperios | Then again, if ANY ancient Greek state can have a female leader in Civ, that'd be Sparta |
| 15:43.46 | Imperios | Probably one of the only good things about it - they were prettty good with women's rights |
| 15:43.54 | Imperios | fooking feminists roight |
| 15:44.00 | Hachiman | >anti-feminist complaint >about a city-state that allowed women's rights in an otherwise patriarchal society |
| 15:44.10 | Imperios | Exactly hur |
| 15:44.17 | Xho | leaders* |
| 15:44.26 | Xho | Sparta always had two leaders |
| 15:44.36 | Charles_Murray | Anyone know if they can reach Tybusen if he's not on IRC or Steam? |
| 15:44.40 | Imperios | But hey, people complained about the Scythian queen too |
| 15:44.46 | Imperios | Charles_Murray: Skype |
| 15:44.54 | Charles_Murray | Do you have him on Skype? |
| 15:45.49 | Imperios | yep |
| 15:46.09 | Charles_Murray | Could you poke him for me? |
| 15:46.27 | Imperios | He's away |
| 15:46.36 | Imperios | He's in California duh |
| 15:48.21 | Charles_Murray | It's 8:50 over there |
| 15:49.18 | Imperios | I think he's sleeping ATM |
| 15:49.29 | Charles_Murray | Makes sense. Thanks! |
| 15:49.45 | Charles_Murray | Could you drop him a quick message saying I might want to do the Congress of Paris later today? |
| 15:49.49 | Xho | Would be nice to be asleep |
| 15:50.04 | Xho | Gilgamesh hm |
| 15:50.11 | Hachiman | Imperios: Did Catherine the Great really die trying to fuck a horse? |
| 15:50.26 | Xho | There's not any planet in wikiverse called Gilgamesh is there |
| 15:50.31 | Xho | Cause I might use it for a name |
| 15:50.39 | Imperios | No, but her real death might be related to her... adventures |
| 15:50.49 | Imperios | She died on her toilet out of vaginal rupture I believe |
| 15:50.54 | Hachiman | As far as I know, there is no planet named Gilgamesh yet |
| 15:50.54 | Xho | lovely |
| 15:51.04 | Hachiman | Also holy fuck |
| 15:51.22 | Xho | Might use it as a name for a Zhulultu world then |
| 15:51.32 | Hachiman | Was Catherine the Great *that* promiscuous? |
| 15:52.00 | Imperios | She was a monarch hur |
| 15:52.05 | Imperios | She had the power, and power is sexy |
| 15:52.40 | Monet2 | She built an empire with her tits. |
| 15:52.49 | Charles_Murray | Imperios |
| 15:52.53 | Xho | all hail the royal tits |
| 15:52.59 | Charles_Murray | Wikipedia says she died of a stroke |
| 15:53.08 | Imperios | My mistake |
| 15:53.14 | Imperios | But yeah she died on her toilet anyway |
| 15:53.34 | Charles_Murray | ^ |
| 15:54.13 | Monet2 | Embarrassing |
| 15:54.18 | Imperios | Then again |
| 15:54.39 | Imperios | Her toilet was actually fashioned from the Polish throne |
| 15:54.52 | Imperios | That she took when she conquered Poland |
| 15:55.02 | Wormy_ | DrodoEmpire, Imperios: Wasn't it a large Greek army headed by a smaller group of Spartans? |
| 15:55.33 | Hachiman | It was |
| 15:55.38 | Monet2 | "I want to crap in the throne of Poland" - Catherine |
| 15:55.51 | Hachiman | Several thousand militia and fighting slaves sent by other Greek city-states |
| 15:56.03 | Imperios | So at least she died on a throne, albeit not her throne |
| 15:58.32 | Xho | she did not shit gold i see |
| 15:58.44 | Hachiman | hur |
| 15:59.37 | Imperios | She shit shit into shit (a.k.a. Poland) |
| 15:59.44 | Imperios | shat even |
| 16:00.14 | Xho | she shat shat into shat |
| 16:01.01 | Hachiman | I have no arse and I must shitte |
| 16:02.24 | Xho | oh lord |
| 16:03.44 | Monet2 | Well this took a crappy direction |
| 16:04.19 | Xho | doi |
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| 16:06.35 | Xho | ups |
| 16:07.08 | dino82_ | hi Oluap! |
| 16:07.15 | Monet2 | Hi |
| 16:07.16 | dino82_ | so the wikia is quite quiet haha :d |
| 16:08.22 | OluapPlayer | hi |
| 16:10.28 | Imperios | Xho Hachiman OluapPlayer: https://www.evernote.com/ So I found this website that might be a safer, more secure replacement for Titanpad |
| 16:11.09 | Wormy_ | Eugh, I'm fed up of signing up for things |
| 16:15.52 | Monet2 | Too many usernames and passwords to remember |
| 16:16.44 | Monet2 | Too many instances of personal details that could be stolen by hackers |
| 16:17.03 | Wormy_ | Too much spam in the email inbox |
| 16:17.15 | Wormy_ | Or alternatively Facebook intrusion |
| 16:18.01 | Wormy_ | Its a horrible trend that I'm seeing getting worse and worse to the point where one has to sign in to read blogs or news |
| 16:18.30 | Wormy_ | I remember once I could just download or use web tools without signing up first |
| 16:19.38 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Incunabula Expanded on this a bit |
| 16:21.34 | Charles_Murray | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiWroA7310E :( |
| 16:22.04 | Hachiman | Why sign up for anything ever |
| 16:22.30 | Imperios | Alright-y |
| 16:26.13 | Monet2 | Hachiman: services and notifications |
| 16:26.16 | Charles_Murray | Trump in Fallout 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0i90-arfyE |
| 16:26.41 | Monet2 | Next for instance emails you whenever they hold a sale |
| 16:29.05 | Monet2 | Train tickets can be much cheaper when you book in advance |
| 16:36.17 | Xho | Someone gimme a quote for these freaks http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/cf/Zamuyrnnui.png/revision/latest?cb=20160817193429 |
| 16:37.23 | OluapPlayer | "[screams externally]" -anonymous alien |
| 16:37.39 | Xho | that works |
| 16:37.48 | OluapPlayer | fug |
| 16:39.06 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Zamuyrnnui blah |
| 16:40.15 | Wormy_ | bbs |
| 16:56.45 | Hachiman | Charles_Murray: Holy shit that ship drifting |
| 16:57.13 | Xho | Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIIyFhnYJs4 |
| 16:57.32 | Hachiman | Oh God |
| 16:58.00 | Hachiman | >log onto the UDB >this is the latest audio message |
| 16:58.17 | Imperios | Xho: In Tuurosian mythologies, what would Santorakh represent outside of the obvious (madness, chaos, cheese)? |
| 16:59.36 | Hachiman | Sex |
| 16:59.41 | Xho | More or less |
| 16:59.42 | Hachiman | And creative freedom |
| 16:59.50 | Xho | Tuuros!Slaanesh |
| 16:59.55 | Hachiman | Essentially hur |
| 17:00.56 | Xho | So if anyone had the madness to watch X Factor recently you probably saw two guys on there which were *ridiculously* camp |
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| 17:01.15 | Hachiman | Xho: Link/ |
| 17:01.15 | Xho | Believe it or not, Southampton residents |
| 17:01.16 | Hachiman | ? |
| 17:02.06 | Xho | Don't think there's a link |
| 17:02.14 | Xho | But trust me you'd know them if you saw them |
| 17:03.09 | Xho | Southampton's good at this |
| 17:03.45 | Monet2 | Can't be any more camp than UbiSoft's e3 opening display |
| 17:03.48 | Xho | Trust me |
| 17:04.44 | Monet2 | so it's a hellhole that's camp and proud? |
| 17:05.01 | Xho | eh kinda |
| 17:09.24 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14233144_1289789434378264_2617513382579141533_n.jpg?oh=888140ffb062a1f9f3ffd5f7cf745dab&oe=587BF95A Santorakh as final boss of Tuuros |
| 17:10.26 | Monet2 | Poke his butt |
| 17:16.13 | Hachiman | https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/14202705_1006827859429402_5159027264471004990_n.jpg?oh=b4f7a4984a51163c9cb75fec4bf32073&oe=58526AF8 |
| 17:18.40 | Xho | Why you should never marry an Asgord |
| 17:19.44 | Xho | needs asgord genocide mark 2 |
| 17:21.11 | Monet2 | The Asgordening |
| 17:25.19 | Monet2 | I now wonder. According to their page the Kraw used to treat those pig things of theirs as sacred, and none were allowed to be killed |
| 17:25.58 | Xho | Kicath - kill them all |
| 17:26.01 | Monet2 | I wonder if this was a jab at the sacred perception of cattle in India |
| 17:26.34 | Hachiman | I don't think Irsk even knows about that |
| 17:26.40 | Hachiman | It's religion and he hates religion |
| 17:27.16 | Monet2 | He hates religion but that doesn't mean he knows nothing about it |
| 17:28.31 | Monet2 | the joke of Indians worshipping cows is fairly widespread in western media |
| 17:28.33 | Hachiman | Come on, it's Irsk |
| 17:29.56 | Xho | m'lady |
| 17:31.54 | Monet2 | The extent of his knowledge could be "Indians worship cows. Umm....why?" |
| 17:32.43 | Hachiman | True |
| 17:34.56 | Monet2 | Isn't cow's milk still drunk in India? |
| 17:35.46 | OluapPlayer | You don't have to kill the cow to get milk |
| 17:35.54 | OluapPlayer | In fact killing the cow negates you of the milk |
| 17:36.22 | Monet2 | My point exactly |
| 17:37.21 | Monet2 | treatment, if I remember. Manifests as giving them right of way, respecting them and not killing them for food |
| 17:37.42 | Xho | dafuq is goin on |
| 17:38.15 | Hachiman | Xho, you're part-IT operator, tell us more about the cow thing |
| 17:38.36 | Imperios | Xho Hachiman: https://derpicdn.net/img/2015/11/9/1019874/medium.gif You thought MLP can't be scary |
| 17:38.37 | Xho | eh |
| 17:38.57 | Xho | I don't know much about the sanctity of cows |
| 17:39.46 | Hachiman | Imperios: Does that count as trypophobia or not |
| 17:39.46 | Xho | Although I believe eating/drinking things that come from milk is allowed |
| 17:40.13 | OluapPlayer | They look like holes so yes it does |
| 17:41.20 | Xho | Just killing a cow and eating beef is not allowed |
| 17:41.30 | Monet2 | Though goats are popular for meat and milk as they're lower maintenance |
| 17:42.41 | Xho | Well I guess Indians must use milk in their cuisine, I mean gulab jamuns are made with milk powder |
| 17:43.07 | Hachiman | ooga joobas |
| 17:44.01 | Monet2 | washing your mouth with Milk is useful for defusing spicy foods |
| 17:44.08 | Monet2 | that or lager |
| 17:44.23 | Xho | Wouldn't have thought lager was good |
| 17:44.26 | Xho | It's mostly water |
| 17:46.29 | Monet2 | Lager and chicken tikka Masala are a classic combination |
| 17:46.49 | Xho | >chicken tikka masala >spicy >Indian |
| 17:46.54 | Xho | i'd ought to slap your shit |
| 17:47.53 | Monet2 | I know it's not Indian |
| 17:48.04 | Monet2 | it's fake Indian food |
| 17:50.05 | Xho | http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/003/878/1237917779613a.jpg?1284764479 Exact face |
| 17:50.38 | Xho | All things considered it doesn't taste bad |
| 17:51.01 | Xho | Hottest thing I've ever had from an Indian is lamb madras |
| 17:51.11 | Xho | My mouth was almost numb by the end of it |
| 17:51.31 | Hachiman | What about vindaloo |
| 17:51.38 | Xho | Never had vindaloo surprisingly |
| 17:52.16 | Xho | Considering my general condition atm I'm not a fan of spicy food |
| 17:52.53 | Monet2 | Vindaloo varies from what I hear between "meh" and "oh lords above my face is melting!" |
| 17:53.31 | Monet2 | All depends on how hot you want it |
| 17:54.58 | Hachiman | https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/14231137_644532202382681_5192022979781153769_o.jpg |
| 17:55.03 | Xho | There's also tindaloo and phall |
| 17:55.07 | Xho | Often too hot for most |
| 17:55.51 | Xho | Phall is actually British which would explain why it's hot for the sake of being hot |
| 17:59.44 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImBrrZXjnho #humans |
| 18:07.28 | Monet2 | Irskaad was unpredictable in what he did or didn't know. |
| 18:08.18 | Imperios | Monet2: Fake as in? |
| 18:08.37 | Imperios | As in it was invented by European Brits, or by Indians, but for Brits specifically? |
| 18:09.09 | Monet2 | imperios: invented by Brits but passed off as Indian food |
| 18:11.20 | Imperios | Ah |
| 18:11.31 | Imperios | I thought it was like with Russian Korean food |
| 18:12.01 | Imperios | Kimchi as eaten in Russia is not as spicy as actual authentic Korean kimchi |
| 18:13.02 | Hachiman | I get reminded of how haggis isn't genuine Scottish food |
| 18:14.58 | Monet2 | Tikka Masala is pub food, but it's technically a curry |
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| 19:06.04 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Nijusi_Syndicate Started |
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| 19:12.28 | Hachiman | PEPSIMAN |
| 19:13.21 | Xho | ack |
| 19:13.27 | Xho | Read the new GOLDCAW section |
| 19:13.39 | Xho | group's got elf problems |
| 19:13.56 | Hachiman | Needs an elf and safety check |
| 19:14.11 | Xho | fucking die 0/10 |
| 19:16.57 | Xho | OluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Nijusi_Syndicate juicy crime place |
| 19:17.25 | OluapPlayer | dfgsdfg |
| 19:27.14 | Xho | no response so far this is going well |
| 19:29.15 | OluapPlayer | I can't say anything about it considering the page is unfinished |
| 19:30.57 | Xho | Hachiman: Is it me or is Bleed's video a Franku video gone very wrong |
| 19:31.06 | Hachiman | hur |
| 19:31.33 | Hachiman | Also, so the Nijusi Syndicate is like Mafia + an actual large brand corporation |
| 19:32.09 | Xho | Nijusi - thats the joke or is it |
| 19:35.45 | Xho | The Syndicate is basically a rework of that Antares Corporation idea I had |
| 19:36.28 | Hachiman | Oh nice |
| 19:37.39 | Xho | Although a little less sinister I guess |
| 19:37.45 | Xho | Or more sinister |
| 19:37.51 | Xho | I dunno let's see how it goes |
| 19:41.45 | OluapPlayer | All things considered seems pretty damn sinister |
| 19:42.09 | Xho | everything is sinister |
| 19:42.11 | Xho | tis xho fic |
| 19:44.16 | Xho | Hachiman: I've come to the conclusion that Behind the Sun is the best song on Koloss |
| 20:02.47 | DrodoEmpire | Back |
| 20:02.53 | DrodoEmpire | Or rather, have been back for a bit now |
| 20:03.18 | DrodoEmpire | Does anybody have any new fiction events they'd like to share? Starting a new Klaxon article soon |
| 20:03.31 | DrodoEmpire | So I'll need stuff to roooooooooooooooooooooooooooooight into the newwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwws with |
| 20:03.32 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 20:04.45 | Hachiman | Xho: >not I Am Colossus |
| 20:05.34 | OluapPlayer | I'd rather not have my fiction slandered hur |
| 20:06.05 | Monet | Could be funny |
| 20:06.53 | Hachiman | Honestly, the stuff that comes out of Borealis is so weird and bizarre it'd be hard to slander it |
| 20:07.23 | Technobliterator | DrodoEmpire, did you post the latest chapter :o |
| 20:07.26 | Monet | It'd be easy to joke about though |
| 20:10.16 | DrodoEmpire | Tech: Not quite yet, doing a few edits here and there |
| 20:10.25 | DrodoEmpire | Just stuff on my grammar |
| 20:10.34 | Technobliterator | ah |
| 20:11.50 | OluapPlayer | I would rather not be the short end of the joke |
| 20:11.54 | Xho | Hachiman: second best song |
| 20:12.37 | Xho | DrodoEmpire: Did you do the Tuuros message |
| 20:12.39 | Xho | I think you did |
| 20:12.56 | DrodoEmpire | I did, though some stuff did arise since |
| 20:13.06 | DrodoEmpire | Allegations of illegal stuff going on notably |
| 20:15.14 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14225471_1761649987416812_3300064842847036516_n.jpg?oh=7d41cc7cc42efaca4bae67b3590f085c&oe=5883447D Dating, Hachi edition |
| 20:16.17 | Xho | Well new desktop is on its way |
| 20:16.37 | Xho | Should come week after next |
| 20:17.48 | Xho | https://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/images/cs/obsidian750d/01_400.png One of these beasts |
| 20:18.37 | DrodoEmpire | Ooh nice |
| 20:21.15 | DrodoEmpire | Posting it now Technobliterator |
| 20:21.19 | Technobliterator | \o/ |
| 20:21.21 | DrodoEmpire | Making final edits/proofreading |
| 20:27.49 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Hard_Contact#Chapter_Five - Another fairly-big chapter |
| 20:34.57 | DrodoEmpire | Alright |
| 20:34.59 | DrodoEmpire | CKII |
| 20:35.01 | DrodoEmpire | Big sale now |
| 20:35.04 | DrodoEmpire | What should I get |
| 20:35.31 | Xho | I thought you typed CYKA there fore a sec |
| 20:35.41 | DrodoEmpire | Charles_Bot Charles_Murray Tek0516 |
| 20:35.42 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 20:35.49 | DrodoEmpire | That's CS:GO <.< |
| 20:35.53 | Charles_Murray | All of it |
| 20:36.10 | Tek0516 | I'm planning to grab the on sale DLCs for it. |
| 20:36.24 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not willing to spend 116$ >.< |
| 20:36.30 | DrodoEmpire | What're the essentials? |
| 20:36.45 | Tek0516 | Uh... What do you have? |
| 20:37.01 | DrodoEmpire | CKII vanilla, Old Gods, and Rajas of India |
| 20:37.42 | Tek0516 | I actually saw a decent outline on essential ones. |
| 20:37.45 | Hachiman | CKII? |
| 20:37.56 | Tek0516 | First of all, Legacy of Rome definitely. |
| 20:38.05 | Tek0516 | That adds Retinues. |
| 20:38.14 | DrodoEmpire | Crusader Kings II |
| 20:38.18 | Hachiman | Ah |
| 20:38.20 | DrodoEmpire | Alright |
| 20:39.33 | Xho | Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHBi4AkVzbA |
| 20:39.44 | Charles_Murray | Conclave is really good, fleshes out realm politics a lot more |
| 20:39.49 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh, alright |
| 20:39.59 | Charles_Murray | Way of Life absolutely |
| 20:39.59 | Xho | Remind me to send that to Oluap as well, he'd probably like that on the basis it's instrumental |
| 20:40.02 | Charles_Murray | Charlemagne |
| 20:40.18 | Charles_Murray | Ruler designer |
| 20:40.25 | Technobliterator | bleh |
| 20:40.34 | Technobliterator | I have failed to do the "fiction reading day" thing |
| 20:40.45 | Technobliterator | I need to set myself a reminder to actually do it |
| 20:40.48 | DrodoEmpire | D:< |
| 20:41.25 | Xho | 0/10 |
| 20:41.25 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: Any groups you want to play especially? Nomads, Muslims, Jews, Christians, Pagans? |
| 20:41.39 | DrodoEmpire | Not *really* |
| 20:42.54 | Tek0516 | Because many DLCs are for specific religions or government types. |
| 20:43.01 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 20:43.31 | DrodoEmpire | Nah I think this is good right now |
| 20:43.35 | Charles_Murray | Cool |
| 20:43.36 | DrodoEmpire | I might look around a bit more |
| 20:44.17 | Tek0516 | I'm buying the two remaining major DLC i don't have (excluding the new one) |
| 20:45.21 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Downloadable_content#Expansions Quick outline of what adds what |
| 20:45.32 | DrodoEmpire | Thanks |
| 20:48.58 | Xho | According to the WWF, the Panda is no longer deemed endangered |
| 20:49.22 | Tek0516 | Really? |
| 20:49.36 | Technobliterator | That is good news |
| 20:49.54 | Xho | Well they've upgraded their status to vulnerable but yeah they're no longer endangered |
| 20:51.23 | Hachiman | Nice |
| 20:51.59 | DrodoEmpire | My history teacher would be *TRIGGERED* by this news <.< |
| 20:52.25 | DrodoEmpire | (He had an irrational hatred of the Panda, among other strange views) |
| 20:52.43 | Xho | Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=119xf6xCu5I Holy shit what did I find |
| 20:53.35 | Hachiman | I'll check that in a bit |
| 21:00.51 | Hachiman | Imperios: Sometimes when I open up Overwatch and the intro screen has Roadhog on it, I like to leave it on so I can hear the sounds of his fatty breathing in my ear while I eat |
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| 21:06.53 | Quark8 | Hello. |
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| 21:19.06 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 21:20.27 | drom | DrodoEmpire: Inbound he brings "why we need a third nuclear bombing of *Asia*" to the next lecture if he watches the wind of this news |
| 21:20.53 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 21:21.22 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Was your English teacher that crazy leftie you told me abou? |
| 21:21.37 | DrodoEmpire | Nah, history teacher was semi-crazy leftie |
| 21:21.42 | DrodoEmpire | I mean |
| 21:21.43 | drom | So, my pacfist character in a RPG was given a pistol by someone she had become a good friend with. |
| 21:22.07 | drom | DrodoEmpire: Neo-commie ruski in disguise detected. |
| 21:22.13 | DrodoEmpire | He was smart, clearly quite smart, and I liked his sense of humour and even the fact he was a *bit* of an asshole >.< |
| 21:22.19 | DrodoEmpire | But yeah he had some strange political views |
| 21:22.54 | DrodoEmpire | I have him next year, anyhow |
| 21:22.58 | DrodoEmpire | So there's that <.< |
| 21:23.02 | drom | Heh |
| 21:23.14 | Imperios | We have a crazy leftie psychology tutor |
| 21:23.18 | Imperios | But she's just senile |
| 21:23.21 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 21:23.40 | DrodoEmpire | Its funny because I have the history class with two of my friends who are *waaay* farther to the right than I am |
| 21:23.41 | drom | Reminds me of how a bit uneducated I was about the two assaults linked to Julian Assange and talked with my mother-language teacher about it. |
| 21:23.46 | DrodoEmpire | Like real conservatives |
| 21:23.54 | DrodoEmpire | So it'll be... Interesting to see that >.< |
| 21:23.57 | Imperios | I presume her father was sent to Siberia during Stalin's rule and she never recovered |
| 21:24.02 | drom | She snapped "no evidence is required, sexual assaults extremely serious" |
| 21:24.23 | DrodoEmpire | Jesus... |
| 21:24.28 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah that's obviously, well, wrong |
| 21:24.33 | DrodoEmpire | And a terrifying stance to take |
| 21:24.38 | drom | Well, sexual assaults are serious indeed. But seriously? |
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| 21:24.58 | Quark8 | Hello Tybunsen. |
| 21:25.01 | DrodoEmpire | Which is all the more reason to require real evidence |
| 21:25.04 | Imperios | drom: DU GAMLA, DU FRIA |
| 21:25.19 | drom | I was skeptic about the accusations on Julian Assange. I mean, do we got evidence? |
| 21:25.19 | Tybusen | Hello |
| 21:25.36 | DrodoEmpire | drom: If there isn't any, it probably didn't happen and you can't press charges |
| 21:25.40 | DrodoEmpire | Just like any other serious crime |
| 21:26.19 | DrodoEmpire | The quickest way to discredit sexual assault as a charge to be taken seriously is to lower the burden of evidence needed |
| 21:26.19 | Imperios | drom: Explain her that presumption of innocence is a thing |
| 21:26.23 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 21:26.34 | DrodoEmpire | When it so clearly *is* a heinous crime |
| 21:26.42 | Imperios | This reminds me |
| 21:26.59 | Imperios | We now have a politology course, and the lector is a Russian colonel |
| 21:27.05 | drom | Imperios: Too late, it was one half a year ago, and I'm in a different school now. |
| 21:27.11 | Imperios | Oh |
| 21:27.14 | Imperios | So anyway |
| 21:27.42 | drom | Well still. |
| 21:27.59 | drom | She is a very nice teacher, if not the social justince warrior sort. |
| 21:28.01 | Imperios | We have a lot of Chinese students from the Russian language course, so the moment he began talking, he took notice of them |
| 21:28.21 | Imperios | "I SEE THAT WE HAVE MANY VISITORS FROM PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA. THIS IS... GOOD. RAISE YOUR HANDS." |
| 21:28.28 | Imperios | So the Chinese raised their hands naturally |
| 21:28.36 | Imperios | He counted them |
| 21:28.41 | Imperios | Then he stared at me in the eyes |
| 21:28.48 | Imperios | "AND WHERE WOULD YOU BE FROM" |
| 21:28.56 | drom | "I'm 50% ruskie" |
| 21:29.13 | DrodoEmpire | The way he chose his words with "good" is odd XD |
| 21:29.20 | Imperios | I was like "I AM A PROUD CITIZEN OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION, ROSSIYA SVYASCHENNAYA NASHA DERZHAVA" |
| 21:29.31 | DrodoEmpire | "THIS IS... SECURITY THREAT, SPIES SPIES" |
| 21:29.32 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 21:29.48 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: And then he actually started lecturing |
| 21:29.52 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 21:30.22 | Imperios | "THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OUR POLITICS AND THE POLITICS OF THE UNITED STATES IS THAT THE UNITED STATES SEEK WORLD DOMINATION. WE ARE JUST PROTECTING OUR VITAL INTERESTS." |
| 21:30.38 | Tybusen | shit, he's on to us |
| 21:30.52 | drom | Quick |
| 21:31.14 | Xho | Well |
| 21:31.22 | drom | Tybusen: Travel to Russia and take one of those courses to spy their progaganda making |
| 21:32.11 | drom | Anyway, I've meet two lecturers so far |
| 21:32.22 | Tybusen | Don't think the US needs any help with propaganda making |
| 21:32.34 | drom | One who has a big disbelief in the gymnasium education |
| 21:32.43 | drom | Our math lecturer to be exact |
| 21:32.43 | Tybusen | They've already fooled most of the population that they are actually represented by their politicians |
| 21:33.03 | drom | The other who is shy and stutters between words |
| 21:33.37 | drom | Our programme instructor. |
| 21:33.48 | drom | This is going go well. |
| 21:34.35 | drom | ach... 11:30 PM |
| 21:44.51 | ImpyDroid | Tybusen: https://youtu.be/hvtvjo3fPsQ Oh God the comments |
| 21:45.16 | Tybusen | Yep that's youtube comments alright |
| 21:45.20 | ImpyDroid | Also |
| 21:45.28 | Tybusen | corporal, turn the key. time to end this |
| 21:45.43 | ImpyDroid | I like how the African leader gets a unique district that is an improved version of |
| 21:45.44 | *** join/#sporewiki NeonPanda (3a6b1c72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.58.107.28.114) |
| 21:45.47 | ImpyDroid | The neighborhood |
| 21:45.49 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
| 21:46.00 | NeonPanda | hi |
| 21:46.03 | ImpyDroid | Hi Panda |
| 21:46.04 | Tybusen | Hello |
| 21:47.04 | Charles_Murray | C - http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Borealum_Crisis |
| 21:47.27 | Charles_Murray | Tybusen DrodoEmpire Monet Quark8 Tek0516 |
| 21:47.31 | Tybusen | Ja |
| 21:47.33 | Tybusen | I saw it |
| 21:48.11 | Quark8 | Looks good. |
| 21:48.47 | Charles_Murray | What do you guys think? |
| 21:49.13 | ImpyDroid | TODAY, THE ENEMY IS AT OUR DOOR |
| 21:49.51 | Charles_Murray | ^ |
| 21:50.33 | ImpyDroid | Do you even know what I am referencing hur |
| 21:50.53 | NeonPanda | HE IS ALREADY GLOATING |
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| 21:51.17 | Quark8 | Hello OluapPlayer. |
| 21:51.19 | Technobliterator | dumbo |
| 21:51.24 | OluapPlayer | losa |
| 21:51.41 | ImpyDroid | NeonPanda: Who? |
| 21:51.43 | Technobliterator | c new Hard Contact chapter |
| 21:52.03 | NeonPanda | ImpyDroid: I presumed you were quoting Thule so I kept going |
| 21:52.38 | OluapPlayer | Did |
| 21:53.48 | ImpyDroid | NeonPanda: Ah, no, this is *Borealum* so well |
| 21:54.01 | NeonPanda | ah right |
| 21:54.08 | NeonPanda | I defaulted to Dark Crusade SM stronghold intro |
| 21:55.54 | Hachiman | STEEL REHN |
| 21:55.57 | Hachiman | BOREALUM |
| 21:56.10 | Hachiman | SPESS MEHREENS |
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| 21:58.13 | Technobliterator | what did you think of it? :o |
| 21:58.27 | OluapPlayer | It was good |
| 21:58.31 | OluapPlayer | Not much else to say |
| 22:02.49 | Monet | There never is |
| 22:03.40 | Hachiman | That's a bit rude |
| 22:05.20 | Monet | So is always asking for feedback but never giving anythIng serious |
| 22:06.20 | Technobliterator | Uh |
| 22:06.32 | Technobliterator | I wasn't really asking for detailed feedback |
| 22:06.59 | Technobliterator | And it's not like I regularly do |
| 22:07.36 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I don't mind if Oluap doesn't have much to comment |
| 22:07.46 | DrodoEmpire | Glad you liked it Oluap |
| 22:08.13 | Technobliterator | "It was good" is enough for me, it shows that someone thought reading it was worth their time |
| 22:08.49 | ImpyDroid | You could be me who never comments on things unless people force him too |
| 22:09.11 | Monet | My personal standards differ. |
| 22:09.12 | OluapPlayer | I'm not even gonna comment on that |
| 22:09.13 | Technobliterator | But then I can't tell whether you read things or not |
| 22:09.14 | Technobliterator | : | |
| 22:09.23 | DrodoEmpire | give feedback or i'll kick you in the shin |
| 22:09.24 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 22:09.34 | ImpyDroid | Yes I once again egocentrically direct the discussion towards myself |
| 22:09.35 | Technobliterator | Give feedback or I'll kick you from the channel |
| 22:09.36 | Technobliterator | 8D |
| 22:09.37 | ImpyDroid | MEMEMEMEMEME |
| 22:09.39 | Charles_Murray | Give feedback or I will bomb |
| 22:09.42 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 22:09.45 | ImpyDroid | Sorry it is 1:30 here |
| 22:09.46 | Technobliterator | or that |
| 22:09.50 | Technobliterator | nah, I'm kidding |
| 22:09.51 | Technobliterator | it's cool |
| 22:09.55 | ImpyDroid | I can give feedback tomorrow tho |
| 22:10.01 | Technobliterator | Sure |
| 22:10.15 | DrodoEmpire | wrests the banhammer from Tech's hands- "But I'm not so say something" |
| 22:10.18 | DrodoEmpire | D:< |
| 22:10.18 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: Sorry if I offended you |
| 22:10.36 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway yeah that's cool |
| 22:10.40 | OluapPlayer | That was not directed to you |
| 22:11.41 | Technobliterator | Once I get the chance, I really should get back to Da Reckoning and finish it, but I'll probably just skip the Andromeda and Cyrannus fronts |
| 22:11.54 | Technobliterator | otherwise it'll be next year and still not done |
| 22:12.11 | Monet | So I don't find value in"it was good", I feel it's a cheap response |
| 22:12.16 | DrodoEmpire | Still trying to get my Reckoning section's shit together |
| 22:12.21 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 22:13.15 | ImpyDroid | We can RP tomorrow |
| 22:13.28 | Technobliterator | Sure, but it's a lot to rp :| |
| 22:13.38 | Technobliterator | there are about 3 sections or so |
| 22:13.41 | Tek0516 | Charles_Murray: Looks great. Diplo RPs can be interesting things. :P |
| 22:21.38 | *** topic/#sporewiki by Technobliterator -> SporeWiki! http://spore.wikia.com || Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23sporewiki/ || Collaborative Universes: Sci-Fi http://tinyurl.com/3ddvp7q Fantasy http://tinyurl.com/p9qau7l || Titanpad: https://titanpad.com/ || Offtopic chat: #sporewiki-offtopic || Fiction reading day 10th September! |
| 22:21.47 | Technobliterator | That should serve as a good reminder for myself |
| 22:22.06 | DrodoEmpire | yey |
| 22:22.08 | Technobliterator | Please lemme know beforehand if you have any fictions you want me to put on display |
| 22:22.28 | OluapPlayer | Gorf |
| 22:22.36 | DrodoEmpire | Kanye West <.< |
| 22:22.49 | Technobliterator | Kanye West is no longer canon :| |
| 22:22.56 | Tybusen | Kanye East |
| 22:22.59 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 22:23.03 | Technobliterator | He could be canonized |
| 22:23.05 | Technobliterator | but he shouldn't be |
| 22:23.08 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 22:23.37 | OluapPlayer | Kanye survive all the way to the 28th century through sheer arrogance |
| 22:23.59 | Monet | I think I might go |
| 22:24.59 | Technobliterator | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:25.46 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 22:26.17 | Hachiman | North East |
| 22:26.23 | Hachiman | Sorry, North West |
| 22:27.30 | Tybusen | South West |
| 22:27.47 | Tybusen | Now with 2 free checked baggage |
| 22:28.47 | Hachiman | I thought you said fried chicken bags for a moment |
| 22:29.32 | Tybusen | I mean |
| 22:29.36 | Tybusen | I wouldn't complain if that were the case |
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| 22:48.00 | Quark8 | Hello Wormy_. |
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| 22:49.32 | Wormy_ | Played some Minecraft after at least two or three years. Got straight back into like it was yesterday |
| 22:50.28 | OluapPlayer | blocky |
| 22:50.34 | OluapPlayer | Actually Wormy_ I wanted to ask you something |
| 22:50.48 | Wormy_ | Okay, what is it? |
| 22:51.09 | OluapPlayer | Is there any kind of shielding that could defend against an antimatter weapon? |
| 22:51.40 | Wormy_ | Intense magnetic fields could trap antimatter particles |
| 22:52.14 | Wormy_ | Negative energy shields could repel it; metric shields could stop it entirely |
| 22:52.14 | OluapPlayer | I see |
| 22:53.26 | Wormy_ | However, the blast of an antimatter weapon will not be stopped by magnetic fields and a negative energy shield wouldn't be very useful |
| 22:53.54 | OluapPlayer | So what would be best against say, an antimatter bomb? Metrid shields? |
| 22:53.57 | OluapPlayer | Metric* |
| 22:54.33 | Wormy_ | Metric shields would |
| 22:55.12 | Hachiman | And what is a metric shield/ |
| 22:55.57 | OluapPlayer | Yes that's a good question hur |
| 22:56.13 | Wormy_ | I'm not sure how it works tbh, but it can block worldlines through a section of space |
| 22:56.33 | Wormy_ | So outgoing radiation of a ship escapes the shield, ingoing radiation does not |
| 22:57.19 | OluapPlayer | The scenario is an attack on a planetary base. I want the bomb to be brought inside rather than just being thrown from orbit |
| 22:57.22 | OluapPlayer | cause that's too easy |
| 22:59.11 | Wormy_ | I don't think any substance can survive ground zero of an antimatter explosion, even monopolium or neutron degenerate matter. The gamma rays would turn any atomic structure or exotic atom into glasma |
| 22:59.45 | Wormy_ | That being said, Ghelae created some impossible essence materials that might |
| 23:00.27 | OluapPlayer | So I say the base is shielded by something (metric shields or better) which forces a ground team to bring the bomb inside so they can detonate it |
| 23:02.22 | Wormy_ | Maybe they access it from hyperspace, I think that is the only way to get past the shield |
| 23:03.46 | OluapPlayer | I think that might a little too advanced for Borealis |
| 23:05.05 | Wormy_ | Oh, maybe as an alternative to metric shields, they face a defense that can dump energy into hyperspace. |
| 23:05.34 | OluapPlayer | So any attempt at attacking it from orbit would be thrown into hyperspace |
| 23:05.50 | Wormy_ | Maybe it only functions on the outside of the base, ad a few low energy soldiers won't be detected by it |
| 23:06.18 | OluapPlayer | That'd work perfectly actually |
| 23:10.52 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: So a second Tabby's-type star has been discovered, this time with dips of up to 65% |
| 23:11.19 | Hachiman | Nice |
| 23:12.12 | Wormy_ | The discoverers suggested in their paper it might be the edge of a proto-planetary disc facing us, but its out there for others to poke holes in so we'll see |
| 23:21.12 | Charles_Murray | Wormy_ This happened http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Borealum_Crisis |
| 23:21.47 | Wormy_ | checks it out |
| 23:22.36 | Tek0516 | Mendel - Come at me bro. Wait... OH S-[contact lost] |
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| 23:23.42 | Charles_Murray | ^ |
| 23:26.21 | DrodoEmpire | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-242qaiWDk 80% of GMod servers |
| 23:27.14 | OluapPlayer_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHgW2z61_9k can't speak of Gmod multiplayer without this |
| 23:28.17 | DrodoEmpire | ohgod lol |
| 23:31.16 | Wormy_ | London bridge burned down again http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/37271612 |
| 23:32.53 | Charles_Murray | What do you think Wormy_ ? |
| 23:34.10 | Wormy_ | Looks like France is taking tough tactics on aggressive native powers |
| 23:34.25 | Wormy_ | In their extragalactic territories |
| 23:34.57 | Charles_Murray | Aye |
| 23:34.58 | OluapPlayer_ | explode france pls |
| 23:35.21 | OluapPlayer_ | preferably with antimatter bombs before they learn of the hyperspace shield talk |
| 23:35.34 | Charles_Murray | France - u explode |
| 23:36.25 | Technobliterator | Hey guys! Tomorrow I will be (finally) finishing off Da Reckoning, even though the other fronts aren't quite done yet, I'll just leave them unfinished and they can be revisited if we ever feel like. In the meantime, at the end of Da Reckoning will be a "trial" section in which the Gigaquadrant decides the fate of the Loron. Can you people give me a statement from each of your factions as to what they would say durin |
| 23:36.25 | Technobliterator | g the trial, and I will include it? :o |
| 23:36.44 | Charles_Murray | Of course |
| 23:36.48 | Wormy_ | Yes |
| 23:37.13 | OluapPlayer_ | bwah |
| 23:37.14 | Technobliterator | Sweet |
| 23:38.06 | Wormy_ | And I think it's Alexandre who takes the strongest militant policies, with his rivals wanting to return to neutrality and domestic growth |
| 23:40.25 | Wormy_ | I think the DCP's opinion is that the Loron get returned to the stone age and blockaded on their homeworld, if not total extinction they would settle on that. |
| 23:40.56 | Technobliterator | That makes sense |
| 23:41.01 | NeonPanda | https://youtu.be/UhduvvA_Xpo?t=4m19s Fordanta's response to basically everything |
| 23:41.18 | Wormy_ | With exception of a few that have been helpful to the UNO |
| 23:42.20 | Technobliterator | hahahaha |
| 23:42.36 | DrodoEmpire | Technobliterator: Yeah sure |
| 23:42.42 | DrodoEmpire | Sorry for the lateness >.< |
| 23:42.51 | Technobliterator | np |
| 23:43.26 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, what year does Da Reckoning end on? |
| 23:43.34 | DrodoEmpire | Or is it all confined to 2810? |
| 23:45.12 | DrodoEmpire | I ask as depending on the end date the Chalag may be able to weigh in |
| 23:45.20 | Technobliterator | I think it's all done in 2810 |
| 23:45.24 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh, alright |
| 23:45.35 | DrodoEmpire | Chalag didn't exist then, so yeah >.< |
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| 23:48.58 | Quark8 | Hello Liquid_Ink. |
| 23:49.15 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 23:49.36 | Liquid_Ink | Hey |
| 23:54.17 | Charles_Murray | Wormy_ Wait no |
| 23:54.21 | Charles_Murray | It's the other way around? |
| 23:54.50 | Charles_Murray | Or you mean his domestic political rivals? |
| 23:54.55 | Wormy_ | Yes |
| 23:55.22 | Charles_Murray | Alexandre's reflexes aren't exactly -militant-. Extroverted is probably the better term |
| 23:55.50 | Charles_Murray | He doesn't resort to force very easily, and when he does it's usually in a very controlled, very measured way |
| 23:57.00 | Charles_Murray | He's, at the core, an internationalist |
| 23:57.29 | Charles_Murray | Which in his mind means the creation and maintenance of international institutions and systems which can maintain peace and prosperity |
| 23:58.10 | Charles_Murray | And France has taken on unique responsibilities in that regard, defending those institutions against those who would take advantage of them or overthrow them |
| 23:58.13 | Charles_Murray | Like the Mendel Pact |
| 23:58.34 | Charles_Murray | So that implies a certain level of power projection, military readiness, and willingness to use force to defend others |
| 23:59.48 | Charles_Murray | His rivals, on the other hand, tend to misunderstand his policies as militarist and building for himself a foreign empire held together by the sword, and they oppose that very strongly |
