IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160902

00:00.00DrodoEmpire_hur
00:00.09OluapPlayer*all the 'umies except my own
00:00.33HachimanI can only imagine a 21st century human somehow ending up in the 2800s and just thinking "what the fuck happened and why did France win"
00:01.03MonetFrance is still fairly significant.
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00:02.35DrodoEmpire_Hi
00:02.48MonetI mean...I recall everyone here went full wat when I mentioned that rumor of hot dragon on baguette between Uriel and Maxime where as Uriel was more like "and people are buying this? Disappointing."
00:02.53Monethi
00:02.54Dinolion92Hi. I
00:03.05DrodoEmpire_Monet: lol
00:03.13OluapPlayerI've done and seen worse
00:03.14DrodoEmpire_I *so* wish the Klaxon came just a bit earlier XD
00:03.41OluapPlayerSo Uriel getting on with a human doesn't really weird me out
00:03.54DrodoEmpire_Ah hur
00:04.03HachimanI mean
00:04.06OluapPlayerOther than the fact he'd be cheating on his wife
00:04.18HachimanConsider that Kalcedia services a large number of Borealis' races
00:04.19MonetDrodoEmpire: Do it. Go retroactive for stories.
00:04.25Dinolion92If you could pause time, what prank would you pull on the nearest person?
00:04.26DrodoEmpire_I mean, French-Drodo, er, "relations" have gotten so far that there's an entire ethnic group of Franco-Drodo people
00:04.35HachimanAnd then take a look at many of Borealis' races are weirdos hur
00:04.39DrodoEmpire_olol
00:04.52OluapPlayerKalcedia gets on with Krinkarut, Zí-Jittorám and Sska Akvii
00:05.05DrodoEmpire_Dinolion92: dunno
00:05.23OluapPlayerDrodoEmpire_: i'd launch projectile vomit on the drodo if i culd
00:05.28Dinolion92I would probably go to the nearest staircase, wait until someone got to the bottom, then pause time, and put them back on the top.
00:05.28HachimanDinolion92: Throw a bunch of kitchen knives at the nearest person and wait for time to restart
00:05.29OluapPlayergrosssss
00:05.33MonetWell Kalcedia doing it with random dudes is one thing. This is a married king on a president
00:06.01DrodoEmpire_Build daddy's wall in freeze time and then start <.<
00:06.06DrodoEmpire_TRUMP WINS
00:06.14OluapPlayertrump is shitty meme man
00:06.22DrodoEmpire_hur
00:06.23OluapPlayerAlso isn't What's her face dead?
00:06.31DrodoEmpire_Who?
00:06.36HachimanMaxime?
00:06.37MonetThis was before she died.
00:06.38OluapPlayerThe french woman
00:06.40DrodoEmpire_Yeah she died
00:06.51Hachimaninb4 rumours of Uriel fucking her corpse
00:07.09DrodoEmpire_Also yeah maybe nasti but not as nasti as Zazane-weird Borealis aliens
00:07.12OluapPlayerSo you'd be writing bad things about a dead woman and a disappeared man
00:07.13HachimanKalcedia has probably done it with a couple or more of high-profile individuals around Borealis
00:07.15Dinolion92Of all the empires on the fiction universe, what is your personal favorite? Mine is either the New Cyrannian Republic or the Galactic Empire of Cyrannus
00:07.23MonetHachiman: Random Praetor - That's a good idea actually!
00:07.25DrodoEmpire_Mine
00:07.34DrodoEmpire_'Cause I'm egotistical piece of shit
00:07.34DrodoEmpire_:>
00:07.37OluapPlayerXerkea - GET OFF MY DESK
00:07.45HachimanKalcedia - make me~
00:07.54OluapPlayergross
00:07.57OluapPlayerall of u
00:08.00MonetXerkea - No, seriously get off my desk or you'll crush hit.
00:08.13Dinolion92*Pushes Xerkea off desk*
00:08.17DrodoEmpire_I mean at least Drodo and Humans share a similar size and anatomy <.<
00:08.23OluapPlayerXerkea is 1) an elder 2) a fly
00:08.36OluapPlayerNiaka are not for sexual
00:08.57HachimanNot yet
00:09.01OluapPlayerGranted flies don't have fur in real life
00:09.05HachimanThey have hairs
00:09.14HachimanThey're practically covered in hair
00:09.15OluapPlayerHair, fur, same thing
00:09.19MonetPart of what makes them gross.
00:09.24OluapPlayerAnd I don't recall flies having hair
00:09.32HachimanYeah, flies have hair
00:09.37OluapPlayerThen again I don't spend my time looking at flies up close
00:09.41MonetI'd show a picture but flies make me puke.
00:09.46HachimanAye
00:09.51OluapPlayeryeah I'm not interested hur
00:09.57Dinolion92I hate a certain type of fly, the others just annoy me
00:10.02OluapPlayerThat makes the Niaka more like giant fly people than I anticipated
00:10.24MonetFruitflies aren't *too* bad
00:10.36HachimanI can just imagine the Councillors having a sort of ceremonial feast or something and then Xeron vomits on his meal like it's normal business
00:10.38Monet<PROTECTED>
00:10.38Dinolion92I am talking about botflies
00:10.51Dinolion92Botflies give me the creeps
00:10.54OluapPlayerXeron - what are you staring at
00:11.15OluapPlayerNiaka probably don't vomit on their food, no
00:11.55MonetHouseflies are bloated bags of filth and shit with who-knows-what swimming inside them.
00:12.25OluapPlayerI get reminded of ME3 when Javik claims salarians used to eat flies in his cycle
00:12.31HachimanBut flies vomiting their stomach acids on solid objects like food is how they eat, since it breaks down the solids and lets them suck it up
00:12.34Dinolion92I agree, houseflies are dirty little fuckers
00:12.46OluapPlayerYes but the Niaka are not flies
00:12.47DrodoEmpire_Best description of a housefly I've heard >.<
00:12.50MonetHachiman: Niaka have mandibles though.
00:12.51OluapPlayerThey just vaguely look like flies
00:12.57HachimanAh yeah, mandibles
00:13.14Dinolion92I am not insulting Niaka
00:13.25Dinolion92I am not a speciesist
00:13.25HachimanFucking
00:13.29HachimanI just looked up botfly
00:13.38OluapPlayeru fuked up
00:13.39HachimanAnd the first results are larva removal from human skin
00:13.45HachimanFucking why
00:13.52OluapPlayeru fuked up¹²³
00:14.00MonetI thank Top Gear for introducing me to the Botfly.
00:14.20Dinolion92I read about them on the Cracked website's list of scariest bugs.
00:14.26HachimanWhy, because Clarkson's face looks like it has a larval infestation of its own 24/7?
00:14.37OluapPlayerNiaka should look much more pleasant to the eyes than actual flies
00:14.43OluapPlayerThey also only have 4 limbs as opposed to 6
00:14.59MonetHachiman: No because on their trip to South America he used the description of a botfly as a bedtiem story for James and RIchard.
00:15.06HachimanAh
00:15.12HachimanThat doesn't surprise me hur
00:15.23Dinolion92But botflies are nothing compared to a bug from nightmares, I swear, I would run like hell if I saw an Asian Giant Hornet
00:15.44HachimanAren't those the hornets that lay their eggs inside of tarantulas and shit
00:16.14Dinolion92No, those are tarantula hawks, which are blue. Asian Giant Hornets, however, are worse. Thirty of them can wipe out a colony of bees in three hours
00:16.15HachimanOh wait, sorry that's the spider wasp
00:16.20HachimanTarantula hawk, even
00:16.28OluapPlayerHornets are like wasps but angrier
00:16.37Dinolion92Yeah, I learned that the hard way
00:16.47HachimanI never encountered a hornet thankfully
00:16.50OluapPlayerAnd wasps are pretty fucking angry already
00:17.19HachimanIt is absurd to me that there is something out there that exists that can be considered as a larger and angrier cousin to the wasp
00:17.31Dinolion92I accidentally stepped on a hornet when I was a kid. My foot hurt for hours!
00:17.50Dinolion92I still get uneasy when I hear buzzing
00:17.50MonetWell wasps aren't that large.
00:18.09HachimanAren't hornets pretty fucking big though?
00:18.13Dinolion92The asian giant hornet is the size of your thumb. *Shivers*
00:18.26MonetThat's one big bug.
00:20.14MonetStill they're all specks compared to the bugs of the carboniferous period.
00:20.26MonetNow -those- were big.
00:20.34Dinolion92Yeah, the biggest was the Arthropleura or something. Fucker was nine feet long!
00:21.04OluapPlayer>0.3–2.3 metre (1–7.5 feet) long millipede
00:21.06DrodoEmpire_What nation should I play in EUIV
00:21.07OluapPlayerbig fellow
00:21.11DrodoEmpire_*?
00:21.14The_RandomnessI'm surprised nobody's brought up mosquitoes yet. They're extremely annoying, and great at carrying some truly awful diseases
00:21.35Dinolion92Mosquitoes are another thing I have to question why nature created
00:21.41OluapPlayerMosquitos are bad but they don't have the disgusting factor of flies
00:21.49The_Randomnessthis is true
00:21.56OluapPlayerI can crush a mosquito between my palms but I'd not do the same to a fly
00:21.59HachimanI dunno, pregnant mosquitoes are proper ech
00:22.27Dinolion92One time, one of those giant beetles bumped into me
00:22.38OluapPlayerhttp://www.prehistoric-wildlife.com/images/species/a/arthropleura-size.jpg aa
00:22.38Dinolion92I know they're harmless, but they're disgusting
00:22.46MonetOluapPLayer: I wouldn't crush a mosquito in my hand
00:23.02OluapPlayerI've done it countless times
00:23.05HachimanAren't centipedes and millipedes venomous?
00:23.11OluapPlayerUsually it's the only way you can get rid of them
00:23.12MonetIf a mosquito is feeding, crushing the bug just rams its proboscis into your skin.
00:23.12Dinolion92I would get a baseball bat and smash a fly with it!
00:23.23OluapPlayerOh no I mean, flying mosquitos
00:23.32MonetAh
00:23.38OluapPlayerI generally can't notice mosquitos biting me
00:23.48HachimanNot many people can
00:23.48MonetWell you're probably more familiar with them than me
00:24.00HachimanThat's how they're so insidious
00:24.11OluapPlayerYeah, hot weather = mosquitos
00:24.12Dinolion92I don't really know much about mosquitoes. I hate bugs in general.
00:24.13OluapPlayerThey love it
00:24.25OluapPlayerSummer is mosquito festival over here
00:24.31Dinolion92If you're in the tropics, then you WILL get mosquitoes
00:24.51OluapPlayerI live in the tropics so yeah, plenty of experience
00:24.52DrodoEmpire_What nation should I play in EUIV?
00:24.58HachimanDrodoEmpire: Armenia
00:25.06DrodoEmpire_Hmm...
00:25.09Hachimanj/k I've never played EUIV
00:25.10DrodoEmpire_Not a bad idea
00:25.19DrodoEmpire_Well it *could* work
00:25.20OluapPlayerFinland
00:25.24OluapPlayerSpend the game making Spurdo jokes
00:25.32DrodoEmpire_Doesn't exist at 1444 I'm afraid
00:25.38DrodoEmpire_(start date)
00:25.39OluapPlayeroh fug :ddd
00:25.40HachimanWhoa what
00:25.47DrodoEmpire_Hm?
00:25.52HachimanFinland didn't exist in 1440s?
00:25.58DrodoEmpire_Nope
00:26.10DrodoEmpire_I'm fairly sure it was a pretty recent development actually
00:26.15HachimanHuh
00:26.16Dinolion92Has anyone played Empire Total War? I heard its like EU4
00:26.18HachimanWhat was it before?
00:26.28MonetDinolion92: I have
00:26.29DrodoEmpire_Part of the Kingdoms of Sweden and Norway
00:26.32DrodoEmpire_And Novgorod
00:26.45DrodoEmpire_I have play ETW
00:27.00DrodoEmpire_Besides the general theme of imperialism, they're not very alike
00:27.21Dinolion92I always play as Prussia or Britain. I can never hold onto France or Austria. Trust me, taking a region is just the beginning
00:27.30DrodoEmpire_*played
00:27.44DrodoEmpire_Total War is grand strategy in the same way that really cheap sugary juice is proper juice :p
00:27.58DrodoEmpire_Not *really*
00:28.01MonetI was going to compare board games myself
00:28.23DrodoEmpire_(Not to knock TW as I love the franchise, but their grand strategy's pretty simplistic)
00:28.26Dinolion92I know. It is really watered down. Heck, no game can simulate war or conquest like in real life. Only if you lose in real life, you just lose
00:28.39DrodoEmpire_EUIV does it better for sure
00:28.44DrodoEmpire_And it has a wider time scope
00:28.47DrodoEmpire_1444-1821
00:28.55MonetEUIV is chess or Risk, ETW is...hmm
00:29.07Dinolion92Yeah, ETW just has 1700-1799
00:29.08MonetSettlers of Catan, maybe?
00:29.11DrodoEmpire_ETW's checkers or monopoly
00:29.18MonetI was thinking checkers
00:29.22DrodoEmpire_Yeah
00:29.40DrodoEmpire_I'd recommend it, but *buy it on sale* and prepare for a helluva learning curve
00:29.41Dinolion92I mostly play ETW for the regular battles
00:29.45DrodoEmpire_Yeah
00:30.16Dinolion92I always outflank my enemy with my main force, while using a decoy to trap them, they never can beat me that way
00:30.19MonetMonopoly's technically not a game since the only way to play is play to lose or get bored and quit.
00:30.25DrodoEmpire_True
00:30.42DrodoEmpire_Its one of the less complicated Paradox Games (on a scale of like Stellaris-Hearts of Iron/Victoria in complexity)
00:30.53DrodoEmpire_But its still crazy by comparison to TW
00:31.20Dinolion92Imagine if there was a game that combined RTS, RPG, and MMOs. That sadly, is not really optimal today
00:31.29MonetETW you play for the battles, EUIV you play for the grander scope.
00:31.32DrodoEmpire_^
00:31.35DrodoEmpire_Absolutely
00:31.47DrodoEmpire_I'd definitely buy something like that
00:31.53DrodoEmpire_I had an idea sorta like that
00:31.56DrodoEmpire_DUnno how it'd do
00:33.12MonetEVE manages it a little bit.
00:33.51DrodoEmpire_I suppos
00:33.59DrodoEmpire_But EVE is... Well, EVE.
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00:34.39Quark8Hello.
00:34.46DrodoEmpire_Hi
00:34.48MonetNot your run-of-the-mill MMO no
00:35.14Quark8Anything happened while I was out?
00:35.33DrodoEmpire_Eh not really
00:37.54Dinolion92I gotta go guys, I have some work to do. See ya
00:37.59Quark8Bye.
00:39.16Quark8I recall that there was some Tuuros discussion going on. What was the result of that?
00:43.16Hachimanhttps://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14199777_1760387490876395_1544864304121389330_n.jpg?oh=223bce87e6c50fca64558fe494e74ce5&oe=584086BC
00:43.38OluapPlayerhur
00:44.19DrodoEmpire_Yikes...
00:44.30DrodoEmpire_Buddy's reaction sums it all up >.<
00:48.18DrodoEmpire_test
00:55.18DrodoEmpire_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#.E2.80.A2LIVE:_Silvan_Raids_Intensify_on_New_Aratacia - Update to this
00:55.23DrodoEmpire_Big battle has begun <.<
00:57.18Quark8Intriguing.
00:57.59MonetThey're calling in the jets now
00:58.04MonetShit gets real
00:58.10DrodoEmpire_^
00:58.34DrodoEmpire_Everywhere outside of Drodo land is turning to complete shit >.<
01:00.21Wormy_DCP - should have taken our advise
01:01.36DrodoEmpire_Drodo - Yeah *that'd* look good for tourism
01:01.37DrodoEmpire_<.<
01:02.07Wormy_DCP - We attract a particular kind of tourist
01:03.44DrodoEmpire_Drodo - Clearly
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01:06.30DrodoEmpire_Hi
01:06.33Quark8Hello.
01:06.42Spluff5Hi
01:07.00Wormy_goodnight
01:36.07DrodoEmpire_test
01:36.33Spluff5This has been a test of the emergency broadcast system.
01:36.37DrodoEmpire_Hm?
01:36.39DrodoEmpire_Ahh
01:36.56DrodoEmpire_Yeah... methinks the New Aratacia incident's now gonna go *completely* off the rails
01:37.10DrodoEmpire_Luckily, its more or less restricted to the surface of one world
01:37.48DrodoEmpire_Unfortunately, it still has the potential to be wildly destructive >.<
01:37.51DrodoEmpire_Or at least sound bad
03:09.00DrodoEmpire_Now Keem's trying to dox someone
03:09.04DrodoEmpire_Oh dear
03:11.05The_Randomnessclassy
03:11.38DrodoEmpire_To be fai
03:11.41DrodoEmpire_*fair
03:11.57DrodoEmpire_The guy said *horrible* shit about Keem's daughter, so I can't blame him for being angry
03:12.05DrodoEmpire_You don't say that, that's extremely low
03:12.38The_RandomnessFair enough, but that doesn't justify doxxing somebody
03:13.20DrodoEmpire_Maybe not, daresay it comes close though depending on the circumstances
03:15.19DrodoEmpire_If it were face-to-face and someone said sexual shit about Keem's young daughter, I wouldn't blame him if he went and knocked that guy out
03:15.33DrodoEmpire_Whether assault or doxxing are the same or whatnot I dunno
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03:53.34DrodoEmpire_Nomad cav are amazing o.O
03:54.12DrodoEmpire_I outnumbered this Indian army pretty heavily admittedly, but they had a significant terrain advantage and I only took 811 cav losses to their 10 000 losses (the entire army)
03:54.28DrodoEmpire_The battle was done in two days
03:57.36The_Randomnessnice
03:57.42The_RandomnessI'm off for tonight, see you later
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04:55.07DrodoEmpireHi
04:57.41DrodoEmpirehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdslSXBY-XM - CS:GO radio show <.<
04:57.44DrodoEmpire*"radio"
04:58.23DrodoEmpireThe best part is that none of it is at all scripted
05:01.33DrodoEmpire"Can you tell me your life story?" "Well- Ahh- No!"
05:02.16DrodoEmpire"There was some indecipherable noise there, but- ahh- good thing is that I *do* speak poor!"
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06:22.31Spluff5http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Perseus_Coalition_of_Worlds/Technology/Materials%26Substances#Glucinium
06:22.37Spluff5I made mah metals!
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10:00.16NeonPandahi all
10:00.26GhelaeHi
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12:10.16HachimanHi
12:11.08OluapPlayerhi
12:12.13NeonPandahi u
12:12.34NeonPandakinda want to make an equivalent to Reinhardt in the wikiverse just cos
12:13.16HachimanHuge, hammer-wielding paladin with a Don Quixote complex
12:14.48NeonPandatbh he doesn't have a Don Quixote complex, he's just a happy guy
12:15.14NeonPandareminds me of Braum
12:17.52HachimanEh, I feel like he has a Don Quixote complex; I remember there was a comic where he thought a bunch of gangsters were dragons or something
12:18.27HachimanHe is overwhelmingly happy though
12:18.43HachimanWhich is one of the reasons I main him <3
12:20.35NeonPandayou're a dumb Hachi, the bandits are called "the Dragons"
12:21.42HachimanYes, and there are panels where suddenly the Dragons have turned into actual dragons
12:21.50HachimanFrom Reinhardt's POV
12:22.53NeonPandahe doesn't actually think he's fighting dragons you silly
12:23.31NeonPandaanyway, point stand
12:23.33NeonPandas
12:30.46NeonPandanow that I think of it, is it actually a Don Quixote if he comes from a whole order of people exactly like him, who are still active today?
12:32.28HachimanHm
12:32.32HachimanThat's a fairly good point
12:32.53HachimanBut then, what is to say it's not an order of people with Don Quixote complexes
12:33.29NeonPandabecause the whole thing of Don Quixote is he's post-chivalry but trying to be chivalrous, whereas these guys are basically right in the middle of chivalry
12:34.00HachimanHm that's a good point
12:35.23NeonPandaand Quixote isn't actually a knight, whereas these guys are part of the German military
12:39.47NeonPandabtw, proof he doesn't actually think he's fighting dragons: the "POV" shows dragon dudes with spears and maces, but he still puts up his shield to deflect gunfire- basically he's just embellishing it in his head at most
12:39.58HachimanAh right
12:40.03HachimanYeah that makes sense
12:40.20NeonPandawhich is fair enough, cos if you're fighting people called the Dragons you might as well pretend you're fighting dragon people- hell I'd do that XD
12:40.28Hachimanhur
12:40.33HachimanI'm still wondering how he got beat up at first
12:40.36HachimanLike, Reinhardt is huge
12:40.47NeonPandahe's also old, and he got cheap-shot
12:41.00HachimanAh
12:41.01NeonPandaI mean that guy can pull his back out on demand, so not that surprising
12:41.29HachimanImpyDroid: You there? I need naming suggestions for Sylit stuff
12:42.15HachimanI get reminded of this rumour that apparently, when more heroes get included into the roster, that Blizzard would 'retire' some heroes from play
12:42.29HachimanOr rather, that the option to do that isn't off the table
12:42.31NeonPandadoubtful
12:42.43NeonPandaI mean they have the option but I can't think of any good reason to do it
12:42.51HachimanYeah
12:43.03NeonPandabarring of course them creating a new character who fills exactly the same niche as the old one, which is idiocy
12:43.45HachimanI just wish they'd hurry up and release Sombra already
12:43.54HachimanRather than continuing with this ARG business
12:44.00NeonPandapart of me wants them to never release him/her
12:44.15NeonPandabut that part of me is also a sadistic prick, so probably shouldn't listen to that part
12:44.20Hachimanhur
12:45.18NeonPandaI still just laughed at all the people who were like "the stealth detection lines don't say sombra so sombra can make others invisible!!!!!!!!" when it's just standard practice so they can make more stealth heroes in the future
12:46.20HachimanSombra making others invisible would be OP for characters like Bastion
12:48.12NeonPandathey could do it, it'd make Hanzo and Widowmaker immediately spike in popularity, but I just don't really see something like that working out that well
12:49.11NeonPandalike, I can't really think of any character who'd benefit excessively from stealth unless it was their whole thing
12:50.56HachimanAlso can we agree that Reaper isn't as edgy as memes make him out to be hur
12:51.13NeonPandahe's exactly as edgy as the memes make him out to be, what are you on about?
12:54.08HachimanI don't find him ridiculously edgy; like yeah he's got edge and the thing about him regaining HP via eating souls is a bit dumb, but he's not like say some original character than a 12 year old first thought of
12:54.20Hachimanthat*
12:54.36OluapPlayerFunnier to say that he is
12:54.39OluapPlayeruse ur brain
12:54.52Hachimanfuk off u dunt even play overwatch
12:54.53NeonPandaiunno, his hero select dialogue is "DEATH WALKS AMONG YOU," he called his shotguns Hellfire, his backstory is completely edgy OC
12:55.09NeonPandalike, the only thing not edgy about him is his mariachi skin, which is AMAZING
12:55.12OluapPlayerI don't need to play the game to know Reaper is an edgelord
12:56.30OluapPlayerIn fact Reaper being an edgelord is the only thing I know about the game hur
12:56.50HachimanYou also know about some of the girls being waifu material
12:57.06NeonPandaand mei being satan
12:57.09OluapPlayerThat's not really specific
12:57.27OluapPlayerI don't know Mei other than people call her fat all the time
12:57.30HachimanMei is a fucking cunt and people who main her deserve to die
12:57.49NeonPandahell froze over when Mei took over
12:58.11HachimanAlso I'm still not sure whether Mei is actually fat or not
12:58.22NeonPandaprettymuch
12:58.27HachimanArt shows that she's not but her model shows that she is
12:58.34NeonPandalike she's not pot belly fat but she's chubby
12:58.39HachimanYeah
12:59.14HachimanAlso, I like the Mariachi skin because it's like the only thing that reminds me that Reaper is supposed to be Mexican since he doesn't carry an accent or speak the language like the other heroes
12:59.48NeonPanda> when you realise Reaper is actually crawling in his skin, and his wounds actually will not heal
12:59.54Hachimanolol
13:00.55NeonPandaI just love the fact that it changes DIE DIE DIE into MORIR MORIR MORIR
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13:02.53HachimanHi Imp
13:03.29HachimanIt still bothers me that Blizzard doesn't know how to make Tracer convincingly British even though her VA is actually British
13:04.02NeonPandagod I hate tracer
13:04.25NeonPandaevery single tracer main has the "Do you ever get that feeling of deja vous?" voice line and it pisses me off
13:04.48NeonPandawait got my languages mixed up
13:05.01NeonPandavous is french
13:05.19NeonPandastill french* but not the right one
13:05.28HachimanI was gonna say, it's still French hur
13:06.11NeonPandawhat I meant to say was vous is still french, but it's the wrong vu
13:07.18NeonPandagood thing Charles isn't here, might have broken him for a bit
13:07.34HachimanBut yeah, for me, Tracer is the most annoying character in regards to her personality, her voice, and her playstyle
13:07.49NeonPandaI don't mind Tracer's playstyle or personality, her voice is just grating
13:08.05NeonPandafor Mei it's her playstyle and her voice, her personality is fine
13:10.15NeonPandathe sad thing is, there's actually a couple of situations where I really like having a Mei
13:10.48HachimanMei is undoubtedly useful and I feel there are ways to make her less bullshit
13:11.57NeonPandathe problem is her kit is designed around you don't get to have fun
13:12.26NeonPandashe's the one character that I honestly don't feel is healthy for the game environment, mainly cos I don't see what niche she fills beyond "make the enemy hate life"
13:13.04HachimanYeah
13:13.23HachimanImperios: You there? I need naming suggestions for Sylit stuff
13:13.50ImperiosHm?
13:14.02NeonPandalike, the one time I really like her is Hamanura defence, point A, where she can get Bastion up to the sniper window for added evil :P
13:14.40HachimanImperios: I need names for the Sylit equivalent of Marines; I'd use Firebrands but I already reserved that name for something else
13:14.51ImperiosHm
13:15.32ImperiosMarines as in specifically marines or just their elite military forces
13:16.20HachimanElites I suppose
13:17.04HachimanOh and I also need a name for their army
13:17.20HachimanSupreme Fleet is the name for their navy based on what Falco wrote
13:18.11NeonPandaquest to murder guy, forced to talk to guy before murdering
13:18.13NeonPandamake your mind up game
13:18.18Hachimanhur
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14:05.01ImperiosHachiman: Veatrex Armed Forces
14:05.19ImperiosIt kind of struck me that almost all of your fiction has fancy army names, let this be an exception hur
14:05.57ImperiosOr for it to be a little bit less generic
14:06.09ImperiosVeatrex Imperatorial Armed Forces
14:06.16dino82_hi
14:06.17Imperioshttps://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/imperatorial THis is a word
14:07.11HachimanHm makes sense
14:07.13OluapPlayerHi dino
14:07.17HachimanHi Dino
14:07.34HachimanI dunno if Imperatorial works though cus it's a federation, not an empire
14:07.35ImperiosAs for the elites
14:07.42ImperiosIt has an emperor
14:07.44ImperiosDoesn't it?
14:07.53ImperiosI could swear it did
14:08.18ImperiosAS for the name of the marines, since we are going for a Zoroastrian theme, Immortals
14:08.32HachimanEmperor does not rule the entire UVF; he rules the Sylits and has sway in a senate
14:08.55HachimanA senate consisting of other racial leaders and representatives
14:10.09HachimanAnd Immortals sounds good
14:10.21ImperiosFederal Armed Forces then duh
14:10.26Hachimanrite
14:10.29ImperiosVeatrex Federal Armed Forces
14:10.32ImperiosVFAF
14:10.38Hachimanfaf
14:10.58dino82_Howz alld oing!
14:11.49HachimanAlso, Imp
14:12.02HachimanCan you please come up with a name that sounds a little better than Woomus for Rambanda's moon hur
14:12.12OluapPlayerwoomy
14:12.17NeonPandawoona clearly
14:17.01ImperiosWoomus
14:17.02ImperiosHmm
14:17.09ImperiosLEt's take that and whack that somehow
14:18.18ImperiosUsman
14:18.45HachimanUs, man
14:18.57HachimanUsman sounds good tho
14:20.32ImperiosMore like a reference to the Ottomans
14:20.34ImperiosOttoman
14:20.39ImperiosOr "Osman", in Turkish
14:20.40ImperiosOsman
14:20.41ImperiosMoon
14:20.42HachimanAh right
14:20.46ImperiosCrescent
14:20.47HachimanYeah, that definitely fits
14:27.55HachimanActually I might switch Firebrand and Immortal around
14:28.09HachimanAnd let Immortals be the things I was originally reserving the Firebrand term for
14:28.28HachimanSo psychically and physically augmented and enhanced soldiers / warriors like Cycklos are Immortals
14:29.02NeonPandacomplete with reinforcements being constantly brought in so it looks like none of them truly die
14:29.20Hachimanhur
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14:39.23Quark8Hello.
14:39.53ImperiosHm
14:40.12ImperiosSince you are you going to call Sylit elite soldiers "Firebrands", why not make them actual firebrands?
14:40.26HachimanHow do you mean?
14:40.44ImperiosMaybe they operate as individuals and small squads more than as larger units, and are selected for their initiative
14:41.33HachimanYeah that makes sense
14:41.37HachimanThat is what I kinda had in mind
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14:54.48DrodoEmpireHi everyone
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14:58.51ManifestationI have a problem with SPORE: GA, whenever i'm trying to use freedom, it doesn't work, anyone know how to fix this?
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15:02.14Manifestationanyone?
15:02.35Quark8Hm. My birthday is passing with unexpected normalcy compared the last few.
15:02.44ManifestationOh, hello
15:02.49Quark8Hello.
15:03.12ManifestationI was just trying to figure out how to fix freedom cheat, cuz' it's supposed to allow u to go beyond the complexity meter, right?
15:05.15Manifestation.....right?
15:06.17HachimanYes
15:06.28ManifestationWell it's not.
15:06.35Manifestationso does anyone know how to fix it?
15:06.45Quark8How does one cheat in Spore?
15:07.01ManifestationU do Ctrl Shift C
15:07.10Manifestationpress and hold in order
15:08.15Manifestationif u type 'help' in the cheat console after pressing Ctrl + Shift + C, it shows all the cheats.
15:09.22ManifestationSo, anyway, my freedom cheat doesn't work, so anyone know how to fix it?
15:09.51Quark8Nope.
15:10.05ManifestationCuz' I thought it was strange
15:10.18ManifestationI had bot parts the first time I used Freedom cheat.
15:10.56HachimanI dunno
15:11.01Quark8I would suggest Googling the answer.
15:11.04HachimanIf your cheats aren't working, then your game's bugged
15:11.12ManifestationAll but freedom works
15:11.15Manifestationadddna works
15:11.18Manifestationmoremoney works
15:11.24Manifestationunlocksuperweapons works
15:11.37Manifestationeven adventurelook works
15:12.12Manifestationwell, actually, adventurelook is a tiny bit bugged, but after exiting and re-entering adventure, the cheat works.
15:12.58Manifestationand yes, I did exit and reenter thing for the creature creator as well, still didn't work.
15:14.01GhelaeHave you tried installing a mod that gives you extra complexity instead?
15:14.23Manifestationu mean like no complexity meter dark injection?
15:14.26Manifestationversion?
15:14.53ManifestationThat would work, but I was getting new computer soon.
15:15.19ManifestationI thought I might install DI after getting that 1.
15:17.30ManifestationI also heard a new FNAF came out.
15:17.34GhelaeThat is an example, but there are probably smaller mods too if you don't want to download DI.
15:17.43ManifestationI do want DI
15:17.47Manifestationjust not on this computer
15:17.55GhelaeThat's what I mean.
15:18.14ManifestationI also heard a new FNAF came out.
15:18.58Manifestationanyone know what it's called?
15:19.02Quark8We have heard as well. Twice.
15:20.12ManifestationSister Location, is that what it's called?
15:21.22HachimanIt's not come out
15:21.26HachimanIt was just announced
15:21.38HachimanAnd I don't think anybody really cares for it
15:22.02Quark8What is FNAF?
15:22.08HachimanFives Nights at Freddy's
15:22.33Quark8Ah.
15:22.35HachimanFive*
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15:29.18dino82_hi connection fell away
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15:58.11Tek0516Hey Charles_Bot
15:58.31Charles_BotHey
15:59.01Quark8Hello Charles.
16:02.30dino82_hi
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16:03.47Monethello
16:03.53Charles_BotHey
16:04.42DrodoEmpireHi
16:11.30Charles_BotMonet : #Katar pls
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16:13.07Charles_BotDumnet
16:13.28Charles_Bot*pokes Monet*
16:13.30DrodoEmpire<.<
16:13.42DrodoEmpirekicks Monet in the shin
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16:17.05Xhoguys halp
16:17.18dino82_@Xho: HiXho!
16:17.29XhoHi
16:17.36DrodoEmpireHey
16:17.38DrodoEmpireWhat's needed?
16:18.04XhoNothing lol
16:18.11DrodoEmpireOh >:
16:18.14XhoSeriously though I'm all good
16:18.31XhoStill on the hunt for a new desktop
16:19.22DrodoEmpirekk
16:23.42XhoOne I'm looking at here is 1753
16:25.30DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#.E2.80.A2LIVE:_Silvan_Raids_Intensify_on_New_Aratacia - Updates to this, including the conclusion of the first phase of the big battle
16:37.14XhoI think Zilla is being a bit of a tryhard with Phase-Hunter there
16:37.25Xhotone dat down boyo
16:38.26DrodoEmpireYeah maybe a bit
16:38.49MonetDeadpool's funny, but there is a thing as trying too hard to be Deadpool.
16:39.46DrodoEmpire^
16:42.57MonetMaybe the issue here is Deadpool references *everything*
16:43.59MonetPhase Hunter seems to mainly talk about how great he is or Queen most of the time.
16:44.58XhoNu - http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/003/304/Ben-mitchel-YOU-NEED-SLAPPING-DOWN.jpg
16:45.10DrodoEmpireayy lmao
16:45.12DrodoEmpireAnd yeah perhaps
16:45.26MonetIn Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Deadpool's jokes include "I charge stupid people" "oh yeah if I die my price doubles" "I'm killing you because you interrupted the cherry-blossom festival" and "Hey wen we meet [Russian] Titanium Man, let's get him to say "Moose and Squirrel"
16:46.13Xhoegad
16:47.54MonetI can message Zilla.
16:48.05MonetThe last tiem we talked fiction behind his back he got -really- mad
16:48.48Hachimanlol his problem
16:49.08HachimanHis fiction is bad to mediocre and Phase-Hunter is one of the worst things I think we have that is still active here
16:49.24MonetAlso I used to play Champions Online, which suffered a Deadpool plague.
16:49.43HachimanI don't even like Deadpool though so
16:49.48HachimanI find him immensely grating and irritating
16:50.02NeonPandaanyone else just imagining a disease that makes people act like deadpool when Monet said deadpool plague?
16:50.11Hachimanhur
16:50.13DrodoEmpirehur
16:50.17MonetNeonPanda: You're close.
16:50.52MonetI swear every third guy and his dog on SUperhero MMOs tries making a Deadpool clone which most of the time is basically a wisecracking ninja with twin-swords.
16:52.32NeonPandanot too surprising, that one LotR game I played taught me just how many ways you can spell "Legolas" without actually spelling Legolas
16:53.34DrodoEmpirelul
16:53.52MonetI remember that game.
16:54.37MonetThis is probably what some MMOs have tapped into by giving you a MOBA-style roster.
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17:21.20XhoOooh this desktop has colours you can change
17:21.26XhoHeck I'd just pay for that
17:21.31Xhoprettylights.exe
17:24.03DrodoEmpirehur
17:24.13OluapPlayerspu
17:24.24DrodoAwayI'ma take a walk somewhere, gotta pick something up
17:28.54MonetSo I just saw Snorlax's new Z-move for Sun and Moon.
17:30.10MonetI'm with the internet, when Snorlax wakes up, run. Run fast, run far.
17:32.07OluapPlayerEven without Z-moves Snorlax is one of the strongest Normal-types
17:32.23OluapPlayerHigh attack, high special defense, very high HP
17:33.14MonetI know but still.
17:33.20Xhorups
17:33.30MonetIt looks like it's going demon mode.
17:38.22XhoRight so this desktop I'm looking at has a 1080, 3TB and 32GB RAM
17:38.39Xho4 GHz processor as well
17:38.49XhoAll for 1836
17:42.57Charles_BotFor gaming, so much overkill
17:43.05Xhomy middle name is overkill
17:43.06Charles_BotYou do a lot of rendering work, though?
17:43.15XhoI do
17:43.31Charles_BotAlright. That seems like a smashing deal then
17:44.26XhoI could go mental and up the RAM even further but 32GB is big enough
17:49.15XhoGod how do I adjust the brightness on this monitor
17:49.28dino82_:d
17:50.25XhoAh figured it out
17:50.27XhoThat's a lot better
17:50.34XhoI can now edit things without my brain burning
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17:54.00JepardiHi
17:56.13XhoHi
18:03.01XhoI'm a little short on ideas for this page
18:03.44XhoAlso can someone give me map maker images
18:03.48XhoI need them for Tuuros
18:05.14OluapPlayerI'd expect you to have stuff like that
18:05.19OluapPlayercause I don't
18:05.47Xhoden wat u use for borealis
18:05.53Xhotop snowflake
18:06.21OluapPlayerPaint.net
18:06.35Xhobut i dont have paint.net
18:06.40Xhoor anything on this
18:06.46OluapPlayerbitch use google
18:07.02OluapPlayerThat being said I don't know how to make nice looking galaxy maps like yours or Cyrannians
18:07.19OluapPlayerMine look like something done in normal Paint
18:07.40XhoMine's not that great
18:08.33OluapPlayerTuuros's map is pretty well done ho
18:08.35OluapPlayertho/*
18:09.42XhoI guess
18:09.51XhoThe actual galaxy itself was shitloads of brush tools
18:15.36XhoHuh well
18:15.56XhoTallok Nal, Enaphros, Asilapheos and Nijusisumarec form a square
18:16.20XhoArguably forming the safest zone in the galaxy
18:19.28OluapPlayerliteral safe box
18:20.20ImperiosTuuros safe space, free from demon shitlords
18:20.39ImperiosBringing their mortalphobia and shit
18:25.02Monetlol
18:26.18XhoI read that as 'literal hot box'
18:30.51Xhoall of a sudden all of the Frontier races are high af
18:32.24NeonPandathey just need a little help to get through the day, life's tough over there
18:33.04DrodoAwaytest
18:33.08Xho"hey open up it's krath"           "krath's not here man"
18:37.21DrodoEmpireI think I might let things go on for a bit until I release the next Klaxon
18:37.24DrodoEmpireSlow day today
18:40.22HachimanNeonPanda: I wonder what it would take to expy Mercy somewhere in the wikiverse
18:40.46NeonPandanot much, a staff with medical nanomachines and a fancy jetpack
18:41.32Xhomehdik
18:44.00DrodoEmpireTechnobliterator, are you able to RP today?
18:46.28TechnobliteratorI might be able to
18:46.31TechnobliteratorIf not, definitely tomorrow
18:47.11XhoI've added a piece of Zhulultu tech called a Black Sun Device
18:47.22XhoBasically a self perpetuating energy source
18:47.31XhoAs to what it entails or what it looks like I have no idea
18:47.32DrodoEmpireTechnobliterator: Great
18:47.58XhoProbably like most Zhulultu technology - handheld and dangerous af
18:49.07DrodoEmpireHuh cool
18:49.42XhoSince it's godtech I don't really need to explain it much other than the energy within it can be utilised ad infinitum
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18:49.46Luxorevening
18:49.57XhoHi
18:50.17XhoBlack Sun Devices are probably dormant power sources in their megaconstructs so there's a good number of them lying about
18:52.18XhoGiven the right psychopath it could be put into a superweapon and it would be ultra destructive
18:54.26XhoSo Schism races are on a hunt for them both to solve their energy crisis and for the fact that it could be used to destroy anyone else trying
18:58.34HachimanNeonPanda: https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14141652_1088612117883669_7961880983847415102_n.jpg?oh=42a27918aeb7c8bf34f8e591b3ce9fb6&oe=584481A6 Mei's getting a spin-off
18:58.47HachimanXho: hao dey supply endless energy tho
18:59.01Xhothey're gods fuk off
19:00.03OluapPlayerSantorakh - its filled with cheese
19:02.09Charles_BotDrodoEmpire *all Drodoian parties are libertarian*
19:02.24DrodoEmpireMost are moderately libertarian
19:02.31OluapPlayerDon't know what to do
19:02.38Xhohalp with tuuros pls
19:02.40OluapPlayerWant to work on the wiki but I've nothing pending
19:02.45OluapPlayerI've no ideas for that
19:02.51Xhomake random creatures go
19:02.56DrodoEmpireThey pretty much have to be, given the nature of the Empire
19:03.08OluapPlayerprojectile vomit on u hao bout dat
19:03.27Xhonot gud
19:03.34DrodoEmpireTo make the government too big or powerful would upset *many* people
19:03.41OluapPlayerSure I can make random creatures but you need more than that to put them in a galaxy
19:03.48DrodoEmpireIf it helps, the Aristocratic Party under Jivirik *was* authoritarian
19:04.08DrodoEmpireBefore reverting back to its original agenda, more or less
19:04.27XhoOluapPlayer: come up wit random shit den
19:04.35OluapPlayerI feel like if I just do "dey a race of big strong warriors" etc would come off as generic
19:04.50XhoVranntan tho
19:05.06XhoHow about
19:05.10OluapPlayerThat was an example
19:05.12LuxorBurned worlds
19:05.19Luxorthat's enough of an example
19:05.26OluapPlayer"big strong warrior", "super smart scientist", etc etc
19:05.33OluapPlayerToo simple to be a good contribution
19:05.34LuxorWhen I think about Tuuros I imagine dozens of burned worlds
19:05.45XhoWell the Vranntan are smart but just assholes
19:05.47Luxorand civilizations struggling to thrive
19:06.26XhoMake a precursor race then
19:06.33LuxorConsider interstellar civilization which went nearly extinct after nuclear civil war
19:06.48LuxorI'll try to do base creature for that tomorrow, yet in evening
19:07.00Luxorthe story still sits in the head
19:07.14OluapPlayerI would contribute with something, I just need a worthy idea
19:07.25OluapPlayerThem being dead wouldn't make them easier to write about hur
19:07.29XhoI mean everyone's welcome to colonise Tuuros if they want to
19:07.34OluapPlayerAlso that'd be stealing the Zhuhuhuhuhu's thunder
19:07.45XhoThe Zhulultu died out 1.5 billion years ago
19:08.00XhoThere's still another 1.5 billion years worth of precursor civs
19:08.16OluapPlayeru get wat i mean dont b cheeki breeki
19:08.39Luxori v damke
19:08.44XhoZhulultu - cheeki breeki device                  makes everyone break their spines
19:08.59OluapPlayerThe Squatting Sun
19:09.04OluapPlayerI'll see if I can think of something
19:09.20XhoIt's a rare time when Xho nags OluapPlayer and not the other way around
19:09.33OluapPlayerOne thing I want to know is how influential the Xhodominion is in Tuuros
19:09.40XhoNot very influential
19:09.41OluapPlayerDepending of how much I could move the Zua-Zaoi there
19:09.56XhoThe Dominion will suffer the Schism as well
19:10.02OluapPlayerdat somewhat strange
19:10.22XhoThere'd only be a select few strong enough to survive in it
19:10.42OluapPlayerTuuros was the Congregation's home and the Dominion is the Congregatio 2: Electric Boogaloo
19:11.00XhoZhuleshxi - no boogaloo      eet deemun
19:11.08OluapPlayerYou'd expect there to inhabit the galaxy
19:11.13OluapPlayerthem*
19:11.31XhoThe Dominion could inhabit the Schism but it won't be any more forgiving to them
19:11.37LuxorI'd say there are more nebulas in Tuuros than habitable planets hur
19:11.48XhoThe Zhulultu's legacy is indiscriminate in its assholery
19:12.00OluapPlayerIf the Schism is so bad the Dominion can't inhabit it, just colonize the non-Schism part doi
19:12.14Xhowell exactly
19:12.36XhoZhuleshxi was a servant of Angazhar, anything Angazhar related that gets left to be free basically grows into a death zone
19:13.03OluapPlayerKrath - look what you did you STUPID          Angazhar - ur just jelus yellow boi
19:13.26XhoMost of the darker religions in Tuuros would probably claim that the galaxy still belongs to Angazhar
19:13.33OluapPlayerActually this got me an idea of something I could use in Tuuros
19:13.36XhoAlthough Angazhar gives as much as a fuck about it as the rest of the universe
19:14.57OluapPlayerBack when you were working on the Dominion, you offered me a Xhodocto character which I refused because I couldn't think of a place to use it
19:15.03OluapPlayerTuuros is one opportunity for that
19:15.28Xhoyuy
19:15.33XhoI forget which one that was
19:15.46OluapPlayerThe white one
19:16.01XhoSethzak
19:16.03OluapPlayerracistjoke.wav
19:16.05ImperiosHachiman: https://pp.vk.me/c543105/v543105346/1c7b3/uyhgKj7trto.jpg The truth behind Apocalypse
19:16.06OluapPlayerThat one
19:16.53OluapPlayerWe can say he's gone to Tuuros in order to establish a foothold for the Dominion there
19:17.02XhoIn the more updated canon the other Xhodocto are manifestations of the greater Xhodocto so I'm wondering which one Sethzak would be a part of
19:17.37XhoConsidering he's a tormenting asshole probably Angazhar
19:17.51ImperiosXho: https://pp.vk.me/c543105/v543105346/1a886/CFu6dEVQxiI.jpg
19:18.00Xhoegad
19:18.06ImperiosXho: He was supposed to be a priest-mage-kind of guy
19:18.10OluapPlayerA manifestation of Angazhar would probably be interested in the races of the Schism
19:18.21Imperiospriest kind of lends itself to Draguros or Krath
19:18.25ImperiosACTUALLY
19:18.33ImperiosWhat if Sethzak helped lead the Renaissance
19:18.45OluapPlayerI don't want involvement with that
19:19.09XhoI dunno any of the Xhodocto fit but he's listed as Chaotic Evil on his page so that implies Santorakh or Angazhar
19:19.28OluapPlayerHe has a page?
19:19.35XhoIt's empty but yes
19:20.11OluapPlayerif his page is empty then he could be anything since he's effectively reset from zero
19:20.21XhoSantorakh - cheese block
19:20.41OluapPlayerSethzak - except that
19:20.54XhoSantorakh - CHEESEBLOCK.AVI
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19:21.52OluapPlayerWe can go for whatever you think fits best
19:21.55XhoSantorakh as a general rule is extremely unlikely to take on a lesser persona or have a lesser manifestation so it's pointing much more towards Angazhar
19:22.22OluapPlayerWouldn't a manifestation of Angazhar be inclined to just destroy everything ever though
19:22.25OluapPlayerThat's my main concern
19:22.39XhoNot necessarily
19:23.09XhoCould technically use the lesser manifestations as intermediaries between the main four
19:23.20ImperiosWhy not Krath though?
19:23.35ImperiosOr Drag?
19:23.50XhoDraguros isn't interested, Draguros is never interested
19:24.28HachimanPerhaps Sethzak just encompasses one aspect of Angazhar's personality rather than all of it
19:24.34HachimanOne or two, even
19:24.44OluapPlayerDraguros - yes no maybe
19:25.02XhoIt's hard to justify the lesser Xhodocto now that only four are meant to actually be
19:25.23XhoThe lesser lot are probably personalities of the greater four
19:25.31OluapPlayerWell Shu'wokerama is a manifestation of Shu'rimrodir and he's still around
19:26.21OluapPlayer>tfw Dhazhrak is a manifestation of Santorakh's crossdressing tendencies
19:26.44XhoSantorakh - not impossible
19:27.02XhoDhazhrak is most likely Santorakh though
19:27.24XhoThere's a lot of persistence and theatricality in Dhazhrak that there is in Santorakh
19:29.28OluapPlayerStill with Sethzak I can make like a race of servants whose objective is 'recruiting' Schism races into the Dominion
19:30.29XhoSethzak - eet demun                     Schism Race - already did but alright
19:33.46OluapPlayerSo that's one thing I can do
19:34.01OluapPlayerI'd say I need the Xhodocto model but you wouldn't have it right now
19:34.02OluapPlayerSo fug
19:35.05ImperiosIs Sethzak still white?
19:35.15XhoHeck I dunno
19:35.32XhoOluapPlayer: Chances are I'll never have it again at this rate
19:35.32ImperiosI originally envisioned him as a skeleton I think
19:35.52XhoHe wouldn't appear as a greater Xhodocto anyway
19:35.59HachimanIsn't there a Xhodocto png
19:36.04XhoPossibly, not sure
19:36.15OluapPlayerXho never uploads PNGs of his creatures
19:36.20OluapPlayerbecause he's a terrible human bean
19:37.57OluapPlayerEven if he doesn't appear as a greater Xhodocto surely he'd have a Tandava body at least
19:38.41XhoYeah
19:38.46XhoI need to redo the Tandava body
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19:38.59Quark8Hello.
19:42.59Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Vranntan_Order Finished this page
19:42.59Xhosorta
19:45.10OluapPlayerVery angry fellows
19:45.52MonetDraconis - Very problematic.
19:47.05DrodoEmpireChalag - decent style
19:47.13XhoI still imagine the Vranntan being shit scared of a Zi-Jittoram
19:47.34XhoWho isn't shit scared of a Zi-Jittoram
19:47.42OluapPlayerSantorakh - stupid weeds
19:48.33MonetActually I can see the Draconis considerinf Hrantaec a threat
19:49.00dromNot sure if I wrote a confusing introduction UDB post or Kicath being Kicath
19:49.16XhoKicath being Kicath of course
19:49.56OluapPlayerAll you wrote was "What." tho
19:50.16XhoKicath are dicks
19:50.21Xhohav we not gon thru dis
19:53.22XhoIf the Vranntan get their hands on a Black Sun Device it could spell game over for Tuuros
19:54.31OluapPlayerkill em all
19:56.36dromXho: Another reason for the Kurinnurii to do illegal inhumane experiments on the Vranntan
19:56.40drom*nods evily*
19:56.48XhoNijusi - and you call me evil         look at this folks
19:58.26dromNijusi - actually, they are not folks           monsters rather
20:10.55Monethmm, quiet.
20:11.33MonetI wonder about writing another case study/essay
20:11.37MonetOn what I'm not sure
20:13.28dromXho: Kurinnuii - speak for yourself *returns poking on the exposed brain of a still-conscious Vranntan*
20:13.49MonetAny suggestions?
20:21.39DrodoEmpireHmm
20:22.02DrodoEmpireI'd say maybe an economist's look or an anthropologist's look at the Chalag, but I dunno
20:27.11MonetPerhaps.
20:27.44DrodoEmpireOr a look at Drodo clan structure
20:33.42ImperiosMonet Xho: Been reading up on British history for our English course recently
20:33.55ImperiosThe fuck
20:34.00ImperiosThe UK's foundations were laid up by a Scot?
20:34.49MonetJames the VI of Scotland and I of England.
20:35.03ImperiosYes him
20:35.12ImperiosThat's probably basic knowledge for you but I found that surprising
20:35.52MonetWell he was related by blood to the Tudors.
20:37.35XhoSCOOTLAND
20:38.40ImperiosMonet: So... basically Scots are trying to secede from the very kingdom they created?
20:38.59MonetWell the union wasn't perfect.
20:39.01dromMonet: Investigating mysterious cases
20:39.10ImperiosWell then again you aren't unique in that case
20:39.18ImperiosUkraine was once the heartland of the Russian state
20:39.18dromI mean, like researching at a certain thing and then make a theory for it
20:39.20MonetThis was before the Jacobite rebellion.
20:40.05ImperiosAh yes religion was important as well I understand
20:42.59MonetOne of Charles I's goofups that led to the English Civil War was an attempt to spread Catholicism
20:43.26MonetScotland, by the time of union, I think was fairly protestant.
20:46.54Imperios>One of Charles I's goofups
20:46.57ImperiosFor a second I meant our Charles
20:47.04ImperiosIt is Presbyterian right?
20:47.07ImperiosSctoaldn that is
21:03.49ImperiosCotland even
21:08.59MonetNot sure.
21:09.18Moneton the exact denomination
21:09.51MonetIreland is really the only part of the British Isles where the Catholic population is significant.
21:10.29ImperiosWhat denomination does Wales belong to?
21:17.12MonetChurch of England.
21:18.45MonetThough they might have their own denomination.
21:19.48MonetWales has a long history of just being forgotten or treated as England's little brother honestly.
21:20.49MonetI think it's technically a vassal state, the highest royal authority for some 7-800 years was the prince of wales.
21:21.35MonetSomething of a compromise for Welsh loyalty when it was conquered by England.
21:26.31Quark8They have their own denomination, the Church in Wales: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_in_Wales.
21:26.41Quark8*Wales has its
21:49.48HachimanSo, it turns out fecal transplants are a thing
21:52.04DrodoEmpirefetal or fecal?
21:53.40DrodoEmpirehttps://i.gyazo.com/af9c3bc6f08be88ada8e7d6e24a1a831.png ???
21:53.46DrodoEmpireWhat're these appreciation things?
21:55.44HachimanFecal
21:55.51Quark8It's a nice work! thing in the history section of each page.
21:56.00HachimanAlso what
21:57.54DrodoEmpireQuark8: Huh
21:58.48DrodoEmpireAh, found it
21:59.11DrodoEmpireI joined wikia when talk pages were still a thing damnit
21:59.24Quark8Talk pages?
21:59.25DrodoEmpireThese newfangled gimmicks are weird
21:59.29DrodoEmpireExactly
22:00.55Quark8Speaking of stuff, what happened to blog posts?
22:01.05DrodoEmpireThey were done away with by us
22:01.20DrodoEmpireWe figured they were redundant when the forum and message walls exist
22:05.21Quark8Ah.
22:13.43Quark8Huh. It's been so long since I've been to the temple that I've forgotten that the majority of it is praying in front of statues with elephant heads or letting shirtless guys with man-boobs and (IMO) creepy face-paint put a little cone on your head and dump milk on your hair :|.
22:15.18Quark8Personally, I found the experience a little odd and strange, though I still disagree when people call us Hindus creepy pagans who write sex position books (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kama_Sutra).
22:16.40DrodoEmpireNah, I don't have anything against Hinduism
22:16.51MonetConsidering Hinduism a pagan faith sounds offensive.
22:17.06DrodoEmpireI dunno, are you a pagan Monet?
22:17.14DrodoEmpireQuark, are you triggered?
22:17.22DrodoEmpireMonet: Hindu rather
22:17.52MonetNo it just sounds like an ignorant thing to think.
22:18.04MonetI was born Anglican
22:18.55Quark8I'm not triggered. Just a little annoyed.
22:19.11DrodoEmpireYeah its silly for sure
22:19.36Quark8Now, if it weren't for one of these people I would't have learned about that sex manual :P.
22:19.43DrodoEmpirehur
22:20.04DrodoEmpireI was gonna ask if it even *was* religious in nature
22:20.26DrodoEmpireTurns out it is, but even so? Not that bad
22:21.31Quark8"Contrary to western popular perception, the Kama Sutra is not exclusively a sex manual; it presents itself as a guide to a virtuous and gracious living that discusses the nature of love, family life and other aspects pertaining to pleasure oriented faculties of human life. Kama Sutra, in parts of the world, is presumed or depicted as a synonym for creative sexual positions; in reality, only 20% of Kama Sutra is about sexual posit
22:21.43Quark8It's not purely sexual in nature.
22:21.57DrodoEmpireRight, right
22:22.21MonetReminds me of how FOX accused Mass Effect of being a porn game despite there only being one sex scene in the entire game.
22:22.42DrodoEmpireMonet: hasty assumptions and cultural misunderstanding
22:23.50MonetYeah
22:24.54HachimanI remember learning about Hinduism in school
22:24.58HachimanPretty interesting faith
22:25.50HachimanWell, most faiths are interesting to me in one way or another
22:26.08Quark8^
22:26.12HachimanI learned about Hinduism, Islam, and Sikhism as well as a bit of Buddhism
22:26.26Quark8In what grade?
22:27.07HachimanI think between 8th and 10th
22:27.13Quark8Ah.
22:28.52HachimanRegarding Hinduism, I was taught marriage, the creation myth, some stories of Vishnu being a demon-fighting badass, food, the practice of prayer, some stuff about the temples
22:29.17Quark8Most of my knowledge about Hinduism comes from my parents (not the temple as they almost never speak English), while I learned a *little* about Islam and Buddhism in school.
22:29.41HachimanA number of gods, including the Trimurti
22:30.07HachimanYou have Hindu parents?
22:30.10Quark8Yep.
22:30.23HachimanI can imagine it'd be a bit awkward learning about Islam in school as a Hindu
22:30.34Quark8Not really.
22:31.43MonetBoth Islam and Hinduism are quite prevalent in India.
22:31.56DrodoEmpireThe subcontinent in general, anyway
22:32.29HachimanAh fair enough
22:33.19HachimanFor some reason I was taught that there was some antagonism or uneasiness between Hindu and Islamic faiths
22:34.25DrodoEmpireThere *is* the whole India-Pakistan... Thing
22:34.41Quark8My father always characterized Muslims as rude and arrogant and dislikes Islam in general, but my mother is less antagonized towards them and it seems like most of my extended family doesn't really mind.
22:34.55Quark8Apparently (I learned this on my most recent Indian trip), polygamy is legal in India if you're a Muslim.
22:35.03DrodoEmpireAh
22:35.14DrodoEmpireAlso... Yikes :L
22:35.50HachimanI forgot that Islam was a polygamist faith
22:36.19HachimanI think it's because most Muslims I am aware of in the UK only have one partner
22:36.43DrodoEmpireYeah westernised Muslims probably wouldn't see that as acceptable
22:37.06Quark8Apparently, there''s a very large Muslim population in Kerala (my state of residence in India), though I've only seen one or two polygamist couples, and that was in Mumbai.
22:40.19Quark8Something else I noticed for the first time: there are a bunch of hammer and sickles spray-painted on the poles of the city and the CPI(M) (Communist Party of India (Marxist)) is the ruling party in Kerala.
22:40.40DrodoEmpireYikes
22:41.02DrodoEmpireCommunists run that province? >.<
22:45.00Quark8Yes, but they regularly contend with the Indian National Congress (a political party), and therefore don't have a significant dominance, and they have very little support in Indian Parliament (only 17 seats out of 790).
22:45.36DrodoEmpireAhh
22:46.34Quark8That, and my routine was quite normal (aside from the common power outages, occasional strikes and insects in my food).
22:47.14Hachiman>insects in my food
22:47.16HachimanWhat the fuck
22:47.24Quark8Just a few ants.
22:47.47Quark8I complained, by grandmother blasted me in Malayalam, relatives were around, so I complied.
22:48.39Quark8*relative (second cousin once removed)
22:50.17Quark8What I couldn't stand for, though, was the fact that everyone in the neighborhood would shrug off the fact that they had a few cockroaches in their house.
22:50.37MonetSquish em.
22:50.53HachimanJesus
22:51.00Quark8They were on the ceilings and walls.
22:51.05HachimanHow can people treat that as the norm?
22:51.10Quark8I was tempted to buy a gun and shoot.
22:51.54Quark8I don't know. It's a little disturbing some times.
22:52.14MonetHachiman: I think people tend to forget that most Westerners generally live on the higher end of the quality of life scale.
22:52.27MonetWell, not forget
22:52.28HachimanBut, Dubai
22:52.32HachimanAnd Saudi Arabia
22:52.33MonetTake for granted
22:52.51HachimanWell, actually no, strike SA off that
22:52.53HachimanBut Dubai
22:53.13Quark8After a few days, I grew accustomed to everything except for the cockroaches and, as my sister says, "suicidal driving".
22:53.47Quark8Dubai is nice, and hardly like my part of India.
22:53.53MonetNot everyone in Dubai is a millionaire.
22:54.08Quark8Right.
22:54.19HachimanI imagine most people live comfortably though
22:55.11DrodoEmpireI wouldn't underestimate the sort of wealth inequality that exists in developing countries
22:55.25DrodoEmpireI mean, if I'm not mistaken Dubai was pretty much created by slaves
22:55.51NeonPandaon one side you've got ultra wealthy, on the other side you've got if you go within smelling distance of the ultra wealthy you get shot
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22:56.09Quark8Hello.
22:56.19DrodoEmpirePeople who're paid almost nothing (if anything), and have their passports revoked
22:56.36MonetThe side of Dubai most tourists don't see.
22:56.46HachimanRight
22:57.28TybusenHello
22:57.35MonetHello
22:57.53MonetI've come to understand Dubai is like some living Disneyland.
22:58.16Quark8if you're a tourist, pretty much.
22:58.56Quark8However, whenever I went I was there for only two days at most, so I can't be the best judge.
22:59.28Monet<PROTECTED>
22:59.59NeonPandahad a friend who worked there for 9 months as a technician, basically the way he summed it up was "as long as you stay in the district they like you to be in, it's a holiday"
23:00.03Quark8What does he do there?
23:00.07Quark8*Monet:
23:00.09Monet<PROTECTED>
23:00.20Quark8Ah
23:02.00NeonPandaholy shit there are cephalopods that shoot themselves out of the water for 30 to 50 metres
23:02.15The_Randomnessholy shit
23:02.21The_Randomnessthat's nuts
23:03.01NeonPandalike I knew a lot of them used jet propulsion, but dayumn
23:03.21MonetI think the amazing thing is despite all the skyscrapers, it's somewhat tiny.
23:03.41Monethttp://www.2daydubai.com/maps/dubai-maps_clip_image017.jpg this is pretty-much it for a city of 2.5 million.
23:04.26The_Randomnessthose artificial islands tho
23:05.39MonetDubai's growing more in the sea than it is on land.
23:06.04HachimanDubai's artificial islands are fucking cool
23:06.05Quark8Huh. Like last year, today is a nationwide strike in India that coincides with my birthday.
23:06.13MonetAnd those giant islands are as densely populated as your average American suburb.
23:06.23Quark8Dey dam cool.
23:06.36DrodoEmpireAnything's possible with Arabian oil money
23:06.37DrodoEmpire<.<
23:07.05MonetAye. Dubai's life depends on its oil.
23:07.17Quark8Bbs.
23:07.41MonetIt may be full of casinos, hotels and I-don't-know-what, but oil is still where the real money is.
23:07.50DrodoEmpireYeah sure
23:08.10DrodoEmpireNot hard to build a pretty city when you're literally yanking money out from under the sand
23:08.12DrodoEmpire:p
23:08.19The_RandomnessCould be thinking of another place, but don't they use migrant workers to help build this stuff?
23:08.28DrodoEmpireYeah
23:08.31MonetThey do.
23:08.33DrodoEmpireSlave labour, more like
23:08.36The_Randomnessyeah
23:08.46MonetMigrant workers who barely get paid and have limited freedom.
23:08.49NeonPandaDrodoEmpire: they import highly skilled foreign workers who get paid a shitton
23:08.59MonetLike Panda said - if you stay where you're told it's like a holiday.
23:09.14NeonPandathere are the basically slave people, but there's also the people who have the in-demand skills and get paid a shitton of money for it
23:09.29DrodoEmpireYeah duh
23:09.31DrodoEmpireNo shit
23:09.32DrodoEmpire:p
23:09.41DrodoEmpireBut they also use a lot of slave labour for the dirty work
23:09.57NeonPandalike my friend made three years' money in nine months, doing exactly the same thing
23:10.59Monethttp://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/30895815.jpg I've always found night views are a fairly reliable way of measuring urban sprawl.
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23:13.07Spluff5Pretty, pretty gif
23:13.16Spluff5of pretty, pretty goo
23:13.20DrodoEmpire?
23:13.22Spluff5http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/ae/Solareon.gif/revision/latest?cb=20160902222119
23:13.46Spluff5It's my latest new element
23:14.52MonetCompare that however with Paris, which has a similar amount of people.
23:14.55DrodoEmpireHuh, cool
23:19.04Spluff5<shamelessselfplug> You can read all about it on my new technology page </shamelessselfplug>
23:21.01DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#.E2.80.A2LIVE:_.7B.7Bcreature.7CSilvan.7D.7D_Raids_Intensify_on_.7B.7Bplanet.7CNew_Aratacia.7D.7D - New update
23:22.27DrodoEmpiref5
23:22.34DrodoEmpiretest
23:22.45NeonPandau fehl
23:24.55Spluff5I don't really get that whole message board thing, what is it exactly?
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23:25.25DrodoEmpireIts basically an open board for countries, characters, and news organisations to talk on or make announcements
23:25.49DrodoEmpireCurrently I'm doing a live update newsfeed on a crisis on the Drodo world with the native inhabitants
23:29.43Spluff5Where?
23:30.12DrodoEmpire...On the UDB
23:30.14DrodoEmpire:p
23:31.21Spluff5Oh, found it. That link just leads to the top of the page btw.
23:31.51DrodoEmpireShouldn't, but alright
23:36.16DrodoEmpire~seen AnonyLurk
23:36.19infobotanonylurk <44048e73@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.4.142.115> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 50d 18h 9m 22s ago, saying: 'For one of us.'.
23:36.34DrodoEmpireBeen a while
23:36.40DrodoEmpireDid we kick/ban that guy?
23:36.59The_Randomnessbanned
23:37.06DrodoEmpireAh
23:37.19DrodoEmpireAnd he tried to avoid it but has since given up I guess
23:37.41Spluff5What brings him up now?
23:38.32DrodoEmpireNah, just thought of him all the sudden
23:38.51DrodoEmpireAnd that incredibly-frustrating argument >.<
23:39.31TechnobliteratorWhat was he banned for?
23:39.36TechnobliteratorHe was a jerk, but
23:39.41The_Randomnessattempting to evade a mute
23:39.44DrodoEmpire^
23:39.48DrodoEmpireHe evaded multiple times
23:40.04Technobliteratoroh
23:40.07TechnobliteratorThen he deserved it
23:40.13DrodoEmpireAnd openly mocked us, to boot :p
23:43.43Spluff5I was there at the time but missed the argument and couldn't be bother going back through the archives.
23:44.08DrodoEmpireYeah
23:44.21TechnobliteratorWhat was the argument even about
23:44.40Spluff5?
23:45.10Spluff5Judging by the time it took place. Probably either Trump or the SJWs.
23:45.15The_Randomnessnope
23:45.57The_RandomnessIt was Anon not understanding what the purpose of war is and being shit at arguing
23:45.59DrodoEmpireNo
23:46.08DrodoEmpirehttp://infobot.rikers.org/%23sporewiki/20160714.html.gz - First thing here
23:46.18DrodoEmpireStarted as a productive discussion
23:46.33DrodoEmpireThen shit-for-brains began saying dumb stuff
23:48.11*** join/#sporewiki Quark8 (49c685a7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.198.133.167)
23:48.12Quark8Hello.
23:48.14TechnobliteratorI dunno what this guy was on
23:48.14Technobliteratorhi
23:48.29Quark8What did I miss?
23:48.59DrodoEmpireWe're looking over some guy who started an argument
23:49.11Technobliterator"If it's strategically valuable, that's even more reason to destroy everything on it"
23:49.12Technobliteratoruh wut
23:49.17DrodoEmpireWhat's "ProjectRho" anyhow?
23:49.27DrodoEmpireYeah this guy had no knowledgeof warfare
23:49.40Quark8On the IRC or the wiki?
23:49.44The_Randomnesspretty sure that's Atomic Rockets
23:49.50The_RandomnessWhich is otherwise a good site
23:50.03DrodoEmpireIRC a while ago
23:50.09DrodoEmpireHuh
23:50.17Quark8Was this that AnonyLurk folk?
23:50.23Quark8Or someone else?
23:50.26DrodoEmpireYeah
23:50.45DrodoEmpire"03:16.07AnonyLurkWe don't talk about Essence." - As yes, AnonyLurk the ultimate insider telling us what is and isn't totally silly
23:50.50DrodoEmpireGimme a break
23:50.51DrodoEmpire>.<
23:51.20The_Randomnessyeah, you don't even participate in the project and yet you judge it
23:51.28DrodoEmpire^
23:51.29The_Randomnessclassy guy
23:51.35DrodoEmpireThis guy was always such a dick
23:51.40DrodoEmpireEven before this
23:51.48The_Randomnessyeah
23:52.14TechnobliteratorHe doesn't seem to understand that one of the main causes of war is battle over resources
23:52.18DrodoEmpire^
23:52.34DrodoEmpireAnd then there's his *brilliant* idea of making every starship a massive missile
23:52.45DrodoEmpireDespite how rigid and inflexible that'd be
23:54.28NeonPandaand how resource inefficient
23:54.44NeonPandacos the only time you get a bomb back is if it doesn't explode :P
23:54.50Monet"The first rule of British Fight Club is always ask politely.
23:54.50Monet<PROTECTED>
23:54.51DrodoEmpire^
23:54.56DrodoEmpireolol
23:55.41NeonPandasounds like the Australian fight club, although the first rule is get drunk, the second rule is knock someone out, the third rule is resume drinking
23:55.59Technobliteratoryeah that guy was just
23:56.03Technobliteratora jackass
23:56.24DrodoEmpire^
23:56.48Quark8Hm. I'm not sure if I should write the culture or history of my fiction now.
23:56.49DrodoEmpireFirst rule of Canadian fight club is to keep it down please, someone could be trying to sleep or concentrate
23:57.02Quark8lol
23:57.03NeonPandaI just remembered a D&D webcomic with a talking donkey in it, and every time the bard said "kick his ass!" the donkey said "excuse me?"
23:57.06TechnobliteratorI don't normally call people jackasses
23:57.07NeonPandalame joke but never got old
23:57.07DrodoEmpireSecond is to say sorry and make up afterward
23:57.11Technobliteratorbut that guy was a jackass
23:57.18DrodoEmpireYeah... Christ
23:57.19DrodoEmpire>.<
23:57.55MonetNeonPanda: I'm learning that it's a thing for some people in the UK to go around asking "scuse me mate, do you fancy a fight?" and if you say now they let you go on your merry way.
23:58.06Monetsay no*
23:58.34DrodoEmpireThey politely ask if you want to fight?
23:58.44DrodoEmpireI mean, that's awful polite
23:58.51NeonPandafor the most part the average aussie gets his/her violence out playing touch, so fights only really happen when alcohol is involved
23:58.52DrodoEmpireBut why
23:59.00NeonPandawhich is more often than it should be because lockout laws
23:59.31MonetDoroEmpire: It's common around pubs. I imagine it's for more outside binge drinking hours.
23:59.44Spluff5Yeah, I just read some of that. It got really emotionally heated.

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