00:19.24 | DrodoEmpire | Hey Technobliterator |
00:19.52 | Technobliterator | hi |
00:20.41 | DrodoEmpire | Hey- when will you be able to RP? |
01:05.29 | Technobliterator | maybe friday |
01:07.04 | DrodoEmpire | kk |
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03:21.18 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
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10:49.29 | Monet | hello |
10:49.36 | NeonPanda | hi |
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10:56.34 | Monet | Hello |
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12:12.13 | Hachiman | Hi |
12:12.33 | Ghelae | hI |
12:12.44 | OluapPlayer | aaa |
12:49.47 | Monet | Hello |
13:22.43 | Hachiman | test |
13:22.54 | NeonPanda | u fehl |
13:31.24 | NeonPanda | thinking of going back and redoing that little thing I did on ship categories, maybe use it to build some momentum towards writing something |
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13:47.23 | Xho | bloody things and stuff |
13:47.24 | Xho | gha |
13:47.26 | Xho | gah even |
13:48.43 | OluapPlayer | spu |
13:48.53 | Xho | meow |
13:49.26 | Xho | The vet had the cat in overnight and she's apparently fine now |
13:49.45 | Xho | >this cat |
13:49.47 | Xho | >this fucking cat |
13:51.09 | Hachiman | hur |
13:51.36 | Xho | We've decided to put her to sleep if her health fails again though |
13:53.46 | Xho | She's too old to keep going around that vicious cycle so it's fairer like that |
13:53.57 | Hachiman | Of coruse |
13:54.00 | Hachiman | course |
13:58.39 | Xho | She has a tendency of doing this as well |
13:58.44 | Xho | Coming back from the brink |
13:59.02 | OluapPlayer | http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1472737225457.png Pelagrios in Dwarf Fortress |
13:59.19 | Xho | lel |
14:03.09 | Xho | Right I gotta bbl, need to pick the cat up from the vet |
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14:11.26 | Wormy_ | hi |
14:39.00 | Monet | Hi |
14:54.02 | Hachiman | Do, I just had a thought for a rather odd yet cool Sylit weapon |
14:54.08 | Hachiman | Vibro-chakram |
14:58.38 | OluapPlayer | do |
15:04.38 | Monet | Hmm, I can see such a weapon vibrating along its edge. |
15:05.11 | Hachiman | Aye |
15:05.30 | Hachiman | Although that kinda brings into question how one would hold them |
15:06.05 | Hachiman | I know some chakram designs have a central handle but the idea of throwing them like that is kinda awkward to me |
15:06.20 | Hachiman | As is using larger chakram in melee |
15:08.23 | Monet | They're best used like frisbees iirc. |
15:10.13 | Hachiman | Which makes a vibrating edge kind of awkward when it can cut your hand |
15:11.40 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/5zKPT |
15:11.40 | NeonPanda | Hachiman: blades aren't actually that good at cutting just from sheer pressure, you can hold one in your hand quite comfortably even with a tight grip as long as it's not moving along the edge |
15:13.00 | NeonPanda | there is the matter of vibrating blades not being as good as they're actually touted to be, but that's another thing |
15:13.13 | Hachiman | How so? |
15:14.01 | NeonPanda | basically, blades work really well because all the force is going in one direction along a really sharp edge, vibrations direct some of that force to either side thus making the cut weaker |
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15:14.40 | Hachiman | Hi Imp |
15:14.53 | Hachiman | We were discussing the possibility of how Sylit vibro-chakrams would work |
15:15.10 | NeonPanda | you could then argue that the vibrations make the blade better at maiming (pushing the wound apart), but cutting is a little more important |
15:15.19 | NeonPanda | also now that I think of it, the vibrations would probably screw up the flight path |
15:15.44 | Imperios | Hi |
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15:15.56 | Quark8 | Hello. |
15:15.56 | NeonPanda | is it being a chakram culturally significant? because I did just have another idea |
15:16.08 | Imperios | NeonPanda: Perhaps a chakram that starts vibrating once it gets there |
15:16.11 | Imperios | But then again |
15:16.23 | Imperios | You could just make exploding chakrams in that case |
15:16.34 | NeonPanda | well that was the idea I just had, but I figured that would work better for something like a throwing knife which digs in deeper |
15:16.36 | NeonPanda | that also |
15:16.40 | Imperios | Better yet, self-burning chakbrams |
15:16.47 | Imperios | Chakrams |
15:16.48 | Imperios | ON FIRE |
15:17.01 | NeonPanda | everything's better if it's on fire, except in Warframe :P |
15:17.05 | Hachiman | hur |
15:17.14 | Hachiman | Those are some good ideas |
15:17.16 | NeonPanda | I will never forgive that game for making a two-metre long flaming sword boring |
15:17.50 | Imperios | Also random idea |
15:18.07 | Wormy_ | hope this is humour http://i.imgur.com/HF59oad.jpg http://i.imgur.com/0no9q4i.jpg |
15:18.12 | Imperios | The honourable way to be executed in Sylit is the chakram-shaped guillotine |
15:18.26 | Imperios | *by chakram-shaped |
15:18.32 | Hachiman | Wouldn't that be a bit impractical? |
15:18.32 | Imperios | Which may or may not be ON FIRE |
15:18.46 | Imperios | Hachiman: Not if you make it a half-circle |
15:18.52 | Hachiman | Ah# |
15:18.52 | Imperios | Rather than a full circle |
15:19.05 | Hachiman | inb4 spinning chakra flaming saw blade guillotine |
15:19.33 | NeonPanda | with a serrated edge for extra crowd-pleasing |
15:20.16 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/cS77jiH |
15:20.24 | Hachiman | Eh, serrated edge and flaming sound like they cancel each other out kinda |
15:20.54 | NeonPanda | well tbh the flames aren't contributing much to the execution to start with |
15:21.01 | Hachiman | That's true |
15:21.57 | Wormy_ | nsfw http://imgur.com/gallery/oWsD6 |
15:22.11 | Hachiman | Would larger half-circle chakrams work for melee weapons? |
15:25.05 | Ghelae | Are these half-circle vibro-chakrams or half-circle flaming chakrams? |
15:25.47 | Hachiman | Half-circle vibro-chakrams |
15:26.19 | Hachiman | I imagine the rate at which vibroweapons actually vibrate would contribute enough heat to make fire redundants |
15:26.24 | Hachiman | redundant |
15:26.27 | Ghelae | Of the non-vibro non-flaming variety, I feel like this is something that already exists, although I might be misremembering. |
15:26.53 | Monet | The amount of heat the blade generates while vibrating depends on the cooling ssytem |
15:28.49 | NeonPanda | they'd work, there'd be better things for the same job but they'd work |
15:29.33 | Hachiman | Well I did plan for scimitar-like things to be the more standard and common weapon for Sylits |
15:29.42 | Ghelae | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_scalpel - non-weaponised vibroweapon |
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15:30.08 | Quark8 | Hello Charles_Bot. |
15:30.13 | Charles_Bot | Hey |
15:30.34 | Ghelae | Hello. |
15:30.49 | Wormy_ | This is quite unrelated but people have made taser swords. |
15:30.50 | Charles_Bot | Currently have a 15 minute break in my Politics of History course |
15:30.56 | Hachiman | Taser swords? |
15:30.59 | Charles_Bot | It's going to be a great class |
15:31.03 | Hachiman | I think I remember stuff like that |
15:31.25 | Wormy_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F-VVjqarZE |
15:31.51 | Monet | Charles_Bot: Always a good thing. |
15:32.12 | Hachiman | That looks more dangerous to use |
15:32.15 | Imperios | "A weapon disguised as a weapon. No one will ever expect it." |
15:33.56 | Wormy_ | https://youtu.be/fwzrWpB8_R0?t=1m13s |
15:34.06 | Hachiman | I honestly don't think fire would do much for Sylits since I did say that they were fairly naturally resistant to heat and fire |
15:35.27 | Charles_Bot | Started a Fallout4 survival mode game |
15:35.30 | Charles_Bot | Really fun |
15:35.34 | Charles_Bot | Really hard |
15:35.42 | Charles_Bot | Dying is a real pain |
15:35.49 | Monet | Hachiman: Maybe a bit. Fire is, after all, a plasma. |
15:35.55 | Hachiman | True |
15:35.59 | Wormy_ | oh god now someone's made an electric warhammer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFsid7sctOM |
15:36.28 | Hachiman | That's another thing; Falco did write for Sylits to make use of plasma |
15:37.45 | NeonPanda | Charles_Bot: what kind of build are you using? |
15:37.57 | Monet | Hachiman: What were his plans? |
15:38.16 | Hachiman | I remember that Falco wrote for Dondrik using something like Wolverine-style plasma claws |
15:38.57 | Hachiman | Which I'm not sure of the efficiency for but it does sound awesome |
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15:39.22 | Monet | Hi |
15:39.28 | Hachiman | Hi |
15:39.35 | OluapPlayer_ | no grrrr |
15:40.40 | Hachiman | I'm honestly unsure if plasma weapons can match up to the reputation that vibroweapons have built up |
15:41.20 | Monet | Hachiman: It does sound awesome. But if it's a natural process...idunno honestly. If they were a mechanical augmentation and the plasma fired up as the claws emerged, it could work. |
15:41.44 | Hachiman | Well I don't mean like actual "growing through the skin from bone" Wolverine |
15:41.52 | Hachiman | I meant more as in the formation of the claws |
15:42.26 | Hachiman | Presumably Dondrik would've used some like special gauntlet or something, although having some mechanical augmentation that lets you do that at any time is pretty fucking badass |
15:42.39 | Monet | As a device it's quite possible. Shaped magnetic fields might be a thing in the future |
15:43.16 | Ghelae | Do you mean claws made of plasma, or claws sheathed in plasma? |
15:43.30 | Hachiman | I am assuming claws made of plasma |
15:43.43 | Hachiman | Although claws sheathed in plasma might be more possible |
15:43.58 | Hachiman | Though I dunno how you'd sheath a blade in plasma without actually damaging the blade |
15:44.19 | Monet | That's easy |
15:44.49 | Ghelae | When you think of visible electricity, that's plasma: electrons themselves (as with any individual particle) have no colour; it's only when they re-bind to atoms that photons are emitted. |
15:46.16 | Monet | The interior walls of of Tokamak-style fusion reactors use superconducting magnets to keep the superhot hydrogen gas mixture from melting the chamber. |
15:46.47 | Ghelae | "Shaped magnetic fields", as required for plasma blades aren't entirely a plausible idea: magnetic fields depend only on electric currents and changing electric fields, and ones that depend only on the latter independently of any charge are just EM waves. |
15:47.17 | Wormy_ | They need a lot of power though just to cool the superconducting magnets. An awful lot for plasma-sheafed claws |
15:47.21 | Ghelae | So in order to have a magnetic field that traps a plasma, you need to literally surround it with electric currents. |
15:47.41 | Monet | Ghelae: What about some kind of utility fog? |
15:48.20 | Ghelae | That might be able to work. |
15:49.13 | Ghelae | Make their current-carrying parts with room-temperature superconductors with a high critical field strength. |
15:50.41 | Ghelae | Keeping the fog in place is more tricky. If they're held together, they're just a microscopically-fine net surrounding your blade, and anything the blade hits will have to break it first, although at least it could reform afterwards. |
15:51.32 | Ghelae | Perhaps they each have optical tweezers which they use to keep each other in place. |
15:52.46 | Ghelae | Then our next problem is that the plasma will be hot, and thus will radiate a lot of heat. This won't be good for anything around it, especially not the utility fog. |
15:53.20 | Ghelae | These, of course, are the same issues that lightsabers have. |
15:53.25 | Wormy_ | You might have superheated gases escaping wherever the electric current-carrying foglets break up. That's one criticism of the plasmasaber. Although I'll use Sporewikiverse soldiers weilding plasma melee weapons need protection from EM radiation and heat anyway |
15:53.45 | Wormy_ | *I guess SporeWikiverse |
15:53.57 | Hachiman | I *might* just go with vibroclaws instead hur |
15:54.00 | Monet | Well that could actually have some benefit |
15:54.37 | Monet | That gas is super-hot, so anything that you hit will be blasted with a jet of some 1000+ degree heat |
15:54.43 | Wormy_ | And if they have plasma-shielding it might as well defeat the purpose of weilding a plasma knife or whatever |
15:55.10 | Wormy_ | True, but what if it blasts you? |
15:55.28 | Monet | ah |
15:55.50 | Wormy_ | I get the impression that if the plasma itself doesn't, the radiation it emits will (if it is superhot, colder plasma exists) |
15:56.27 | Ghelae | It is the thermal radiation that's a problem. |
15:57.54 | Ghelae | More generally, this is the problem with any plasma and particle weapons in an atmosphere: they're *too* deadly. |
15:58.31 | Ghelae | Bullets and swords just move air out of the way as they push through it. Plasma and particle weapons will break apart the air molecules themselves. |
15:59.28 | Monet | I think I had higher-ranking DI individuals using plasma-sheath blades. |
16:00.46 | Monet | Maybe their containment technology is one of those ancient innovations that they've managed to hold on to? |
16:01.02 | Hachiman | Perhaps |
16:01.56 | NeonPanda | plasma's a fairly prevalent thing in the setting already, so it's not unreasonable to have plasma blades, explanation or not |
16:02.13 | Ghelae | Plasma sheaths for material blades aren't so bad, because you need a lot less plasma, and you can allow it to dissipate because you just made more along the edge of the blade. |
16:02.24 | Ghelae | make* |
16:03.43 | Ghelae | NeonPanda: From the perspective of internal consistency, yes, it seems to be a perfectly workable technology; in fact, they might already exist in-universe. |
16:05.49 | Monet | bbs |
16:11.23 | Hachiman | Wormy_: You know, I realised recently that in a few days, it would have been 10 years since Steve Irwin was taken from us |
16:12.16 | Wormy_ | That was a sad day. |
16:17.20 | Charles_Bot | NeonPanda: VATS sniper/sneak ranger |
16:17.31 | NeonPanda | gut |
16:17.33 | Charles_Bot | Emphasis on perception and intelligence |
16:18.01 | Charles_Bot | Dying is horrible |
16:18.21 | NeonPanda | make sure you've got the agility and endurance where it counts |
16:18.38 | Charles_Bot | Aye, definitely |
16:19.01 | Charles_Bot | (Endurance comes in third, though I'm building that up) |
16:19.48 | Charles_Bot | At one point I had everything under control in a firefight, picking raiders off one by one with well timed VATS snipes; then I see the barrel of a shotgun pointing at the back of my head. |
16:19.53 | Charles_Bot | Me - ... |
16:20.07 | Charles_Bot | *head explodes* |
16:20.43 | NeonPanda | that does tend to happen |
16:24.15 | NeonPanda | surprised no 7 agi for the ninja perk, tbh |
16:40.21 | Charles_Bot | NeonPanda: still building it, wip |
16:40.47 | NeonPanda | fair enough, what are your current stats? |
16:45.43 | Charles_Bot | I'll get them for you as soon as I get home |
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17:09.57 | Monet | hi |
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17:10.36 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
17:19.19 | Monet | hi |
17:19.36 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
17:19.57 | Monet | Imperios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p4tZt7xRu8 Paris is not prepared. |
17:29.07 | Imperios | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/84/Maltris_Coat_of_Arms.png/revision/latest?cb=20160901172448 More heraldry because why not |
17:29.24 | Imperios | Now I wish I was a designer |
17:29.43 | DrodoEmpire | Ooh nice |
17:30.01 | Imperios | FUCK |
17:30.11 | Imperios | I ACCIDENTALLY PAINTED OVER THE CARTOUCHE |
17:40.52 | Xho_Away | undo ya git |
17:42.29 | Xho | Also I'm back ya gits |
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17:43.47 | Wormy_ | the birth of a meme http://imgur.com/gallery/vKbmh |
17:44.03 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
17:45.22 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/a/om3rF |
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17:50.51 | Hachiman | >tfw you lose connection to the Overwatch servers |
17:50.54 | Hachiman | Fucking kill me |
17:51.34 | Quark8 | Imperios: That heraldry is awesome. |
17:51.43 | Xho | hao bout u play spore and make shit for tuuros insted |
17:53.26 | DrodoEmpire_ | http://i.imgur.com/E0BfUmm.jpg |
17:55.08 | Xho | dat clause |
18:01.02 | Xho | It's hard finding the oomph to do fiction when you're not on your own comptuer |
18:01.05 | Xho | computer even |
18:01.07 | Xho | suks |
18:01.47 | DrodoEmpire_ | Yeah... |
18:01.58 | DrodoEmpire_ | Also- When're we doing Voidwalker next? |
18:02.02 | DrodoEmpire_ | Or is that on hold? |
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18:05.19 | DrodoEmpire_ | Hi |
18:05.23 | Xho | Well |
18:05.26 | The_Randomness | Hello |
18:05.29 | Xho | Do you have the Titanpad link |
18:06.44 | Ghelaway | I hav the link, if you want me to post it here. |
18:06.47 | Ghelaway | have* |
18:06.57 | DrodoEmpire_ | Xho: I should |
18:06.59 | Xho | Well private message it to the relevant individuals |
18:07.02 | Xho | I don't have it |
18:07.06 | DrodoEmpire_ | kk |
18:07.49 | Ghelaway | Are there any other relevant individuals present besides you, Drodo, Wormy and Monet? |
18:08.13 | Imperios | Xho: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/84/Maltris_Coat_of_Arms.png/revision/latest?cb=20160901180702 That's the coat of arms |
18:08.15 | Xho | I can't remember now it's been a while |
18:08.19 | Imperios | That I was talking about |
18:08.23 | Xho | I saw |
18:08.30 | Xho | y u no undo |
18:08.33 | DrodoEmpire_ | There's a list of people involved |
18:08.36 | Imperios | I fixed it now |
18:08.42 | DrodoEmpire_ | On the pad- I'll get it to as many as are on here |
18:09.26 | Ghelaway | Okay. |
18:10.05 | Hachiman | So, just watched Extra History's videos on Hiawatha and the Great Law of Peace |
18:10.29 | Hachiman | I wish I knew more about Native American history and culture because it does seem quite fascinating |
18:10.34 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
18:10.36 | DrodoEmpire_ | It is |
18:10.37 | The_Randomness | ^ |
18:10.58 | DrodoEmpire_ | I did an essay on central american warfare, and it was awesome (if a bit difficult) to research and write about |
18:11.30 | drom | Xho: Kicathian problemsolving http://imgur.com/gallery/yYyN8 |
18:11.52 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire_: Can you explain how Aztec macahuitls work? |
18:11.53 | DrodoEmpire_ | Anyway- I can't contact dino or zilla or the like right now unfortunately, as they're not on |
18:11.53 | Imperios | Are they like |
18:11.59 | DrodoEmpire_ | Imperios: sure |
18:12.01 | Imperios | Just sticks with sharp things inside? |
18:12.07 | DrodoEmpire_ | Ehh not really |
18:12.10 | Imperios | Well |
18:12.12 | Xho | "I will show him mercy by letting him be the first to die" |
18:12.16 | Imperios | Sticks with sharp obsidian shards |
18:12.18 | DrodoEmpire_ | Imagine like a cricket bat almost |
18:12.26 | Imperios | But I don't understand why it would be that effective |
18:12.32 | Imperios | It's just a stick with a sharp thing |
18:12.35 | DrodoEmpire_ | But along the edges are extremely sharp, regularly-sized shards of obsidian |
18:12.42 | Hachiman | Obsidian is the key |
18:12.46 | DrodoEmpire_ | They were topheavy, and a bit clumsy |
18:12.56 | Imperios | So it's mostly just a stick |
18:13.00 | DrodoEmpire_ | But they were easy to mass-produce and were *extremely* deadly when they contacted |
18:13.01 | DrodoEmpire_ | No |
18:13.01 | Imperios | IT just happens to leave cuts |
18:13.04 | Hachiman | It's not *just* a stick |
18:13.05 | DrodoEmpire_ | No |
18:13.09 | DrodoEmpire_ | You're wrong |
18:13.11 | Hachiman | They're good at both bludgeoning and piercing / puncturing |
18:13.18 | Xho | Allegedly powerful enough to hack through a horse's head given the momentum |
18:13.19 | DrodoEmpire_ | The obsidian could cut very well and very brutally, like a saw |
18:13.22 | Imperios | right |
18:13.28 | Hachiman | And slashing it seems as well |
18:13.29 | Xho | Or neck even |
18:13.33 | Imperios | Wait wait wai |
18:13.42 | Imperios | How does that thing can cut through things if it's like mostly wood |
18:13.48 | Hachiman | *Obsidian* |
18:13.48 | Imperios | Or is it very thin wood |
18:13.54 | DrodoEmpire_ | The fuckin obsidian! >.< |
18:14.04 | Imperios | Obsidian can leave cuts |
18:14.05 | DrodoEmpire_ | Its placed along the edges, very sharp |
18:14.11 | Xho | Obsidian is mega sharp u dunce |
18:14.14 | The_Randomness | ^ |
18:14.18 | Imperios | But how can the whole thing cut through something |
18:14.21 | Imperios | Yeah I understand that |
18:14.26 | DrodoEmpire_ | Because its more like a saw |
18:14.29 | Xho | Through a pull movement |
18:14.31 | Imperios | But I don't see how it can't, say, slash or chop |
18:14.39 | Xho | Hacks through like a hand saw |
18:14.41 | DrodoEmpire_ | You dig yourself in, and then pull |
18:14.46 | Imperios | Holy shit |
18:14.51 | DrodoEmpire_ | Its utterly savage |
18:14.53 | Xho | did u not watch deadliest warrior kek |
18:15.12 | Hachiman | Deadliest Warrior does a lot of things wrong, but the weapon demonstrations are actually pretty good from what I know |
18:15.19 | DrodoEmpire_ | Fairly good I guess |
18:15.22 | Xho | They get the principles right |
18:15.24 | Imperios | right |
18:15.25 | DrodoEmpire_ | The whole premise is dum though |
18:15.30 | Hachiman | Yeah the premise is dum |
18:15.41 | DrodoEmpire_ | It had disadavantages, like its clumsiness in comparison to a European sword, but it was pretty deadly when used right |
18:15.43 | Hachiman | As is the whole false antagonism that they advertise between the sides that go on there |
18:15.54 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
18:15.58 | Xho | Needs an energy sword from Halo |
18:16.04 | Xho | instakill pls |
18:16.12 | DrodoEmpire_ | hur |
18:16.35 | DrodoEmpire_ | The central americans used a lot of weapons based on the same principle as the macuahuitl |
18:16.44 | drom | Xho: No |
18:16.44 | Xho | Oh we're missing Treebeard as well although he appears to have disappeared |
18:16.45 | DrodoEmpire_ | (I believed the style's called "macana) |
18:16.48 | DrodoEmpire_ | *" |
18:16.48 | drom | Needs more katanas |
18:17.00 | DrodoEmpire_ | Including spears, axes, etc. |
18:17.04 | DrodoEmpire_ | ew katanas |
18:17.05 | drom | And we need more steel-plated fedoras |
18:17.07 | DrodoEmpire_ | >.> |
18:17.14 | Hachiman | Considering that Aztecs did not have to fight opponents heavily-armoured opponents, the macuahuitl and other weapons they used were quite effective |
18:17.17 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
18:17.30 | DrodoEmpire_ | The central americans lacked very heavy armour yeah |
18:17.39 | Hachiman | Armour I suppose mostly consisted of hides and wood and such for Central Americans |
18:17.48 | Xho | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khanda_(sword)) india represent |
18:17.49 | DrodoEmpire_ | The best they had were ornate wooden helmets and cotton suits, soaked in brine |
18:17.53 | DrodoEmpire_ | I love the Khanda |
18:18.00 | Hachiman | The Khanda is cool |
18:18.02 | Xho | Quark8: india represent dammit |
18:18.21 | drom | I love halberds the most |
18:18.23 | Quark8 | Wee. |
18:18.32 | DrodoEmpire_ | drom: Halberds are really cool yeah |
18:18.41 | drom | They are still quite powerful |
18:18.48 | Hachiman | Isn't the Khanda functionally more like a saw than a sword? |
18:19.09 | Xho | Can't remember |
18:19.11 | DrodoEmpire_ | More like a cleaver I think |
18:19.17 | Quark8 | Dravidian power: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katar_(dagger) |
18:19.18 | drom | So you are basically using a khanda is like murdering someone with a bread knife? |
18:19.21 | Hachiman | Yeah, a cleaver is what I've heard it described at |
18:19.23 | Hachiman | as |
18:19.33 | Hachiman | More like a butcher's knife |
18:19.40 | Xho | Katars are great as well |
18:19.48 | Xho | Although I get reminded of Voldo from Soulcalibur |
18:20.02 | DrodoEmpire_ | hur |
18:20.17 | Hachiman | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pata_(sword)) This seems kinda cool |
18:20.18 | DrodoEmpire_ | India's home to a *ton* of exotic weapons |
18:20.42 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: I was actually discussing giving Sylits chakrams earlier |
18:21.12 | DrodoEmpire_ | "The Mughals also developed a variation of the pata with matchlock pistols adjoining the handle." |
18:21.22 | Hachiman | Whoa what |
18:21.36 | DrodoEmpire_ | kickass shit XD |
18:21.42 | DrodoEmpire_ | Anyhow, go on |
18:21.43 | Imperios | drodo: steel-tipped fedora that can be thrown like a chakram |
18:21.47 | drom | DrodoEmpire_: Remember, if we were Indians, we'd say that Europe is home to a *ton* of exotic weapons. |
18:21.47 | Imperios | * drom |
18:21.48 | DrodoEmpire_ | olol |
18:21.51 | drom | But still |
18:21.57 | Xho | i.e. kung lao |
18:22.05 | DrodoEmpire_ | drom: Not necessarily |
18:22.10 | DrodoEmpire_ | Europe had its share |
18:22.19 | Hachiman | Like, smaller vibro-chakram used for throwing while larger half-circle vibro-chakram possibly for melee |
18:22.26 | drom | I see. |
18:22.31 | DrodoEmpire_ | But longswords, glaives, halberds, etc. appear in the hands of most civilisations |
18:22.37 | DrodoEmpire_ | Push-daggers don't |
18:22.50 | drom | Longswords, also called bastard swords. |
18:22.50 | DrodoEmpire_ | So no, relativism is wrong again >.< |
18:22.54 | drom | No wonder why. |
18:23.00 | DrodoEmpire_ | Slightly different I believe |
18:23.07 | DrodoEmpire_ | But that whole debate's a little murky |
18:23.11 | Hachiman | Scimitar-esque curved blades would be more common among Sylit officers and warriors and such but it was just a thought to make them a bit more exotic |
18:23.27 | DrodoEmpire_ | Nah that's pretty cool Hachi |
18:23.31 | Hachiman | I'm honestly iffy on the idea of how chakram can be used for melee |
18:23.36 | Xho | slash |
18:23.36 | Hachiman | It just seems so odd |
18:23.37 | DrodoEmpire_ | Drodo - More swords yey |
18:23.46 | DrodoEmpire_ | It does, so I'm a bit skeptical |
18:23.48 | NeonPanda | way late to the obsidian club conversation, but basically it's better to think of it as a club with sharp bits than a blunt sword |
18:23.53 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
18:24.03 | DrodoEmpire_ | It behaved more like a sophisticated club |
18:24.13 | Hachiman | Yeah; think a baseball bat with reinforced glass sticking out the ends of it |
18:24.23 | drom | Well yeah. The aztecs barely developed the proper art of blacksmithing |
18:24.38 | NeonPanda | Hachiman: not very effectively, but basically you'd use it for slashing attacks |
18:24.41 | DrodoEmpire_ | They had bronzeworking and that's it yeah |
18:24.54 | DrodoEmpire_ | I prefer the cricket bat analogy but yeah |
18:25.07 | drom | Yeah, but was it also used for smithing/crafting weapons? |
18:25.17 | DrodoEmpire_ | Yes |
18:25.20 | Hachiman | What are bronze weapons |
18:25.22 | drom | I see. |
18:25.34 | DrodoEmpire_ | The central americans made use of rudimentary bronze axes |
18:25.49 | DrodoEmpire_ | But they were usually used by the wealthy and were hardly universal among the ethnic groups there |
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18:26.09 | Luxor | evening |
18:26.10 | DrodoEmpire_ | Hi |
18:26.14 | drom | That explains it |
18:26.15 | drom | Hi |
18:26.49 | Luxor | 16 more flags to do... meh |
18:26.53 | drom | Anyway, DrodoEmpire_. I remember me discussing about the culture of Kurinnur Technocracy. |
18:27.21 | drom | Not much about it, but I did comtemplate about writing it. |
18:27.23 | NeonPanda | unrelated note, I went back and read through basically everything on my ideas page |
18:27.37 | NeonPanda | at some point I should put some more wholesome ultraviolence to paper |
18:29.13 | Imperios | NeonPanda: Horrorshow droog |
18:29.38 | NeonPanda | not sure if I get that reference |
18:29.53 | Imperios | Clockwork Orange |
18:29.59 | Imperios | Ultraviolence |
18:30.09 | Hachiman | Aye |
18:30.17 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/9yySPyD.jpg |
18:31.07 | NeonPanda | everyone knows I lean more towards the WH40K kind of ultraviolence, less rape involved, lot more murder |
18:31.53 | Hachiman | Eh, well, when Slaanesh is involved... |
18:32.03 | Hachiman | And when the Dark Eldar are involved... |
18:33.29 | NeonPanda | but when Khorne is involved |
18:33.43 | NeonPanda | and for that matter basically anything that isn't the two above |
18:34.30 | Hachiman | I have to say that 40K needs a little more BURN MAIM KILL |
18:34.42 | Hachiman | To make up for the fact that Slaanesh is such a massive faggot |
18:35.55 | Xho | milk for the khorne flakes |
18:36.13 | NeonPanda | 40k has plenty of BMK, you're just paying attention to the pervy parts |
18:38.19 | Imperios | mememeemememememeemememmemeememememememeemememememememememeemememememememeeeeeeemememe |
18:38.27 | Imperios | shit |
18:38.57 | Hachiman | Looks like Imp couldn't hold all of his memes |
18:39.43 | Xho | dankh mehmehs |
18:39.56 | NeonPanda | imp needs to calm down is what he needs |
18:40.06 | Imperios | I am calm |
18:40.11 | Imperios | Keyboard stuff |
18:41.01 | Luxor | Normal for russians |
18:41.05 | Luxor | >:D |
18:41.07 | Xho | cyka |
18:41.10 | Hachiman | Also I'm kind of mad I have to share my Overwatch EU servers with Russians |
18:41.18 | Luxor | huehue |
18:41.25 | Luxor | guess you never played cs go |
18:41.32 | Hachiman | There are only exclusive servers for Americans, Europeans, and Asians |
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18:41.47 | NeonPanda | hey man, I've got to play with americans |
18:42.26 | dino82_ | hi |
18:43.10 | Quark8 | Hello. |
18:43.12 | Xho | MESHUGGAH HYPE TRAIN AT MAXIMUM SPEED |
18:43.37 | drom | twitches violently |
18:43.53 | drom | I don't know how to expand KT's culture section! |
18:44.04 | Xho | worships meshuggah |
18:44.04 | Xho | dere |
18:47.29 | drom | Besides, I'm supposed to make KT some space vessels too. Design ansethetics are welcome |
18:48.15 | Luxor | ornaments, lots of ornaments |
18:48.25 | Luxor | ornaments look great, always, on a n y t h i n g |
18:48.29 | Luxor | especially floral ones |
18:48.30 | Xho | anesthetics |
18:48.31 | Xho | wut |
18:48.51 | Luxor | aneasthetics preferably |
18:49.00 | Luxor | Not sure if... |
18:49.07 | Xho | anaesthetics |
18:49.09 | Xho | but wut |
18:49.30 | Monet | drom: Well it could reflect their buildings |
18:49.44 | Imperios | You mean aesthetics |
18:49.48 | drom | AESTHETICS |
18:49.49 | Imperios | anasthetics are drugs |
18:50.07 | drom | That is what I get for roleplaying as a doctor the whole last summer. |
18:50.44 | Luxor | huehuehue... |
18:50.55 | Luxor | *vietnam flashbacks intensifies* |
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18:51.03 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o Cyrannian] by ChanServ |
18:51.06 | Luxor | ay |
18:51.25 | Quark8 | Hello Cyrannman. |
18:51.28 | Hachiman | A E S T H E T I C |
18:51.30 | Quark8 | *Cyrannian |
18:51.32 | Cyrannian | Hello everyone |
18:52.24 | Xho | W H A T I S U P W I T H T Y P I N G L I K E T H I S |
18:52.39 | Luxor | I T K I L L S M Y S P A C E B A R |
18:52.45 | Luxor | P L E A S E S T A H P |
18:52.58 | OluapPlayer_ | Can you cut that out please |
18:53.04 | Xho | No seriously where did this meme come from |
18:53.14 | DrodoEmpire_ | Ironic memeing for the most part |
18:53.26 | DrodoEmpire_ | Or- the Modern Art of the Internet |
18:53.27 | DrodoEmpire_ | <.< |
18:53.32 | drom | Straight outta 4chan |
18:54.20 | Luxor | making memes since 1945 |
18:54.41 | Xho | i did nazi that coming |
18:55.03 | Luxor | donut talk to me like that |
18:55.07 | Xho | This is the worst conversation on the IRC ever |
18:55.15 | Monet | If memes are the DNA of culture then doge and co must be viri. |
18:55.32 | DrodoEmpire_ | Xho: Ironic memes are generally the worst thing ever |
18:55.35 | DrodoEmpire_ | <.< |
18:55.39 | Xho | nice psot |
18:55.44 | Luxor | omfg |
18:55.46 | Xho | wow I suck at this |
18:55.58 | Luxor | okay, enough of that |
18:56.20 | drom | > donut talk to me like that |
18:56.26 | Luxor | hue |
18:56.28 | drom | You reminded me of the three stoogies |
18:56.38 | Monet | 4chan is infectious, wash your hands regularly. |
18:56.54 | Luxor | all 'chans are infectious, if not cancerous |
18:57.10 | Luxor | The Toilet of Internet |
18:57.16 | drom | The symptoms are memetic mutation and retardation. |
18:57.16 | Monet | cancers and infections are every different things. |
18:57.28 | Luxor | ikr |
18:58.53 | Monet | Actually come to think of it consider how prevalent memes are these days. |
18:59.18 | Monet | And then all the people who design something with the intent of it becoming a meme. |
18:59.19 | Hachiman | Memes and trends have always been prevalent in almost every culture |
18:59.35 | Luxor | *reminds 'dat boi' heresy and other forced memes* |
18:59.39 | Monet | Memes are something of a super-trend. |
18:59.52 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
19:00.09 | DrodoEmpire_ | Internet memes and shitposting are pretty unique in their size and speed or spread |
19:00.50 | OluapPlayer_ | This conversation is starting to verge on cringe territory |
19:01.07 | DrodoEmpire_ | *something I don't like comes along* -> *call it cringey" |
19:01.08 | DrodoEmpire_ | * |
19:01.09 | DrodoEmpire_ | kk |
19:01.25 | Monet | And that's why memes are no normal trend. |
19:01.42 | Luxor | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3pLDrZQTf8 |
19:01.50 | DrodoEmpire_ | In-jokes in general are indeed ancient- the old "Kilroy is here" graffiti sorta resembled a meme in how and why it spread and it dates back to WWII |
19:02.04 | OluapPlayer_ | Don't "kk" me |
19:03.27 | Monet | I might have been one of those who grew up on memes before Revengeance referenced the word. I vaguely recall my dad had a copy of The Selfish Gene in the early 2000s. |
19:03.29 | DrodoEmpire_ | Don't say a conversation on memetics in general is cringey for some reason |
19:03.52 | OluapPlayer_ | So i'm not allowed to voice my opinion |
19:04.06 | DrodoEmpire_ | You're perfectly allowed |
19:04.28 | Luxor | *emergency evacuation inbound* |
19:05.03 | OluapPlayer_ | I find the act of over-analyzing internet memes cringeworthy |
19:05.08 | Monet | Allowed but free speech means we are allowed to challenge the opinion. So long as it doesn't become a battleground. |
19:05.34 | DrodoEmpire_ | I figure its more a case-study for a larger subject |
19:05.54 | Luxor | How did this conversation even go this way |
19:06.04 | DrodoEmpire_ | No idea but it should stop |
19:06.05 | Luxor | I guess it begun with anesthetics |
19:06.20 | Monet | Considering Richard Dawkins practically predicted the internet meme, and was a catalyst for the scientific field of Memetics, I'm not sure if we are over-analyzing. |
19:06.49 | OluapPlayer_ | I'm more concerned over the fact I can't find a stock sound for a video |
19:07.06 | OluapPlayer_ | It shouldn't be this difficult to find the sound of a person trembling |
19:07.22 | Monet | OluapPLayer: Where are you looking? |
19:07.29 | Luxor | I just found one |
19:07.29 | Luxor | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqo-v-zeZ24 |
19:07.30 | OluapPlayer_ | Google |
19:07.41 | Luxor | I'm a horrible person |
19:07.44 | OluapPlayer_ | I'm not laughing |
19:07.49 | Monet | Soundcloud has a pretty good sound effects library. |
19:08.01 | DrodoEmpire_ | Luxor: ancient meme <.< |
19:08.27 | Luxor | don't even start that again |
19:08.27 | Monet | I use Freesound.org a lot. |
19:09.00 | OluapPlayer_ | I visited that |
19:09.06 | OluapPlayer_ | It doesn't have the sound I want |
19:09.11 | OluapPlayer_ | At least, I couldn't find it |
19:09.18 | Monet | ah |
19:09.54 | OluapPlayer_ | Well putting "trembling" in soundcloud gets me a bunch of song tracks with "trembling" in their title |
19:10.08 | Monet | Look up something like "hyperventilating" |
19:11.34 | Monet | When people tremble the vast majority of sound comes from the breathing - try sounds for people who are scared, cold, nervous, etc. |
19:11.51 | Monet | "panic breathing" |
19:12.03 | OluapPlayer_ | I want cartoony noises, not actual scared person noises |
19:12.06 | Luxor | I'd like to know why you'd need such a sound |
19:12.24 | OluapPlayer_ | Anyway I found a rattling noise which's close enough |
19:12.25 | Luxor | If possible ofc |
19:12.26 | DrodoEmpire_ | Oluap: Ahh, like the old cartoon shivering sound |
19:13.17 | OluapPlayer_ | Yeah |
19:13.45 | DrodoEmpire_ | Being such a common sound I'm surprised it didn't show up |
19:14.40 | Monet | Maybe "shivering" would have produced more positive results |
19:14.56 | OluapPlayer_ | It's hard to find something that common because you don't know how to word the search |
19:15.06 | OluapPlayer_ | That sound could have dozens of different names |
19:17.05 | Monet | It's easier to look for something that closely resembles your sound rather than the sound itself - A lot of traditional SFX involves all kinds of crazy sources |
19:17.46 | OluapPlayer_ | Fucking what are you serious |
19:17.50 | Monet | The lightsaber "vmmm" for instance comes from holding a microphone to an idle speaker. |
19:17.54 | OluapPlayer_ | I'm not gonna pay 5 dollars for a gulping noise |
19:18.12 | OluapPlayer_ | Why would you even charge people for that? |
19:18.51 | Monet | Probably because the equipment to record a good sound is on the pricy side. |
19:20.42 | OluapPlayer_ | disgusting still |
19:21.22 | Monet | Some peopel make a living off making all these random sounds. |
19:22.23 | Monet | Freesound is, well, free. |
19:32.48 | DrodoEmpire_ | test |
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19:34.48 | Luxor | am of backings |
19:34.54 | DrodoEmpire_ | Hi |
19:50.29 | drom | Alright... |
19:50.39 | drom | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Kurinnur_Technocracy#Culture_.26_Ethics I did describe their cuisine a bit. |
19:50.40 | DrodoEmpire_ | Hm? |
19:52.25 | Luxor | yummy |
19:54.16 | drom | I forgot to add a detail about the alcohol content of their brewage, it is there now. |
19:58.08 | Wormy_ | I hate it when I ask someone do do my a favour on the phone and I forgot to say "thanks" |
19:58.24 | Luxor | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:215893 |
19:58.26 | Luxor | Here we go |
19:58.35 | Luxor | have a nice (rest) of the day |
19:58.46 | Luxor | I'm going to bed, 'll check responses tomorro. |
19:58.50 | Luxor | cya |
19:58.55 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
20:01.00 | drom | Xho: Apparently the translation of "divine" to KT's language is "spu" |
20:01.50 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: As a Canadian with Aspergers I symphasize. :P |
20:02.22 | Wormy_ | I don't ask favours very often so got a bit shy and tried to finish it as quickly as possible |
20:02.26 | Hachiman | Ass burgers |
20:02.40 | Tek0516 | kicks Hachiman |
20:02.59 | drom | Anyway, here is Kurinnur Technocracy's language. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Dromlexer/Language/KT |
20:03.08 | drom | Ã la DF |
20:03.15 | Tek0516 | Wormy_: oh I absolutely know what you mean. |
20:03.32 | Wormy_ | I think we with Aspergers are very self-conscious so everything we do and feel gets reflected inwards, unfortunately somehow that makes us less socially aware somehow |
20:03.58 | Quark8 | drom: How did you generate that? |
20:04.29 | drom | I used a third-party tool and a plenty google searching to create it |
20:05.25 | Quark8 | Which tool? |
20:05.25 | drom | However, the availability of words is limited and does only come in one form. I've to edit a specific file and then hit "Extend Language" |
20:05.51 | Wormy_ | Constantly applying too much thought to ourse;ves is probably mentally tasking |
20:06.35 | drom | ourse;ves? |
20:06.38 | drom | universe? |
20:07.14 | drom | Oh |
20:07.16 | drom | Ourselves |
20:09.02 | DrodoEmpire_ | I'll need to cook up some new stuff for this next Klaxon <.< |
20:09.06 | drom | Quark8: http://i.imgur.com/culdEAO.png |
20:14.08 | drom | DrodoEmpire_: Here I sit and ponder how KT would introduce themselves in UDB :thinking: |
20:14.19 | DrodoEmpire_ | Ah |
20:15.25 | drom | If it should be like this: |
20:16.57 | drom | "Encrypted message; Kurinnur Technocracy - Tuuros Galaxy. Message: Hi, we welcome you with two words: "Fuck off" Have a good day! - Agency of Foreign Relations" |
20:17.32 | The_Randomness | lol |
20:22.40 | drom | DrodoEmpire_: I love the effort you put into satire |
20:22.48 | DrodoEmpire_ | Thanks |
20:22.49 | DrodoEmpire_ | :> |
20:36.53 | Xho | drom: Fuck how long did that take |
20:40.24 | Ghelaway | The_Randomness, and Xho maybe: Quark and I are working on the super-collab language again, if you'd like to join in. |
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20:40.44 | The_Randomness | Ghelaway: Just got into a match in League of Legends, I'll pop in later |
20:40.51 | Ghelaway | Okay. |
20:40.56 | drom | Xho: Making that language of KT? |
20:44.52 | drom | Xho: Not too long |
20:45.03 | drom | Less than 30 mins to setup the tool |
20:45.24 | drom | One hour on finding a text file of a reference language you want use |
20:49.03 | Xho | icelandic tho |
20:49.15 | Xho | Ghelaway: titanpad pls |
20:49.25 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid: What would you say if I proposed to myself becoming the next Heinlein |
20:49.26 | Quark8 | https://titanpad.com/hK8iu1YqBn |
20:49.32 | Quark8 | *Xho: |
20:50.58 | Xho | Poor old cat's not in a good state |
20:51.05 | Hachiman | Ouch |
20:51.11 | Hachiman | Is she turning again? |
20:51.17 | Xho | Looks like it |
20:51.30 | Xho | She keeps spacing out |
20:51.46 | Hachiman | Did the vet give her any drugs or medication? |
20:51.56 | Xho | We already have some |
20:52.08 | Xho | I don't think it's gonna do anything now though |
20:52.15 | Hachiman | Maybe it's those that are causing her to space? |
20:52.36 | Xho | Unlikely, it's the main thing that's kept her health together until now |
20:52.48 | Xho | I think she's just too old to go on |
20:53.25 | Hachiman | Damn, I'm sorry |
20:58.31 | Xho | Well I'm not massively gutted about it |
20:58.48 | Xho | It's more reassuring to know that putting her down is more merciful than her current condition |
20:59.14 | Hachiman | Yeah I get you |
20:59.34 | Xho | Right now I'm more concerned in trying to figure out just what the fuck Death Stranding is |
21:00.01 | Hachiman | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCQvFPll-oQ Well there is this |
21:00.58 | Hachiman | I can tell I'm about to go through a rough patch soon regarding pets; one of my dogs has epilepsy and he's been having more regular fits recently, it wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the fact he was only 4 years old |
21:01.34 | Hachiman | Well, is |
21:02.27 | *** join/#sporewiki Spluff5 (2f483e08@gateway/web/freenode/ip.47.72.62.8) |
21:02.56 | Spluff5 | I made a thing! |
21:03.04 | Quark8 | Congrats. |
21:03.14 | drom | Xho: "In memory of Fluffy Kitten. We are adopting another cat, Floffy Kitten!" |
21:03.55 | Xho | life |
21:04.04 | drom | Insensitivty aside, I know that feel. |
21:04.09 | Xho | Hachiman: That sucks |
21:04.24 | drom | Had to put down our old dog after they bit my mother. |
21:04.30 | Xho | Drom: Oddly enough the cat is actually eating her food |
21:04.35 | Xho | She wasn't eating yesterday |
21:04.56 | Spluff5 | http://imgur.com/PuiVfJa |
21:05.06 | Spluff5 | Space-born antimatter plant. |
21:05.23 | Xho | but hao does dat work |
21:06.00 | drom | Xho: It uses handwavium as its primary source of energy. |
21:06.07 | Xho | ah yes |
21:06.12 | Xho | i invented that source |
21:06.16 | Xho | Or was it Valader I forget |
21:06.21 | drom | No I did |
21:06.23 | Xho | rite |
21:06.25 | Xho | fuk u den |
21:06.29 | drom | Or wait |
21:06.38 | drom | Ghel did, probably... |
21:06.43 | drom | Or was it Wormy_? |
21:07.03 | Ghelaway | I don't think any of us here invented the word "handwavium". |
21:07.47 | Ghelaway | But Spluff's plant uses either monopoles or Q-balls, both of which have real-world theoretical physics mechanisms for matter-antimatter conversion. |
21:11.13 | Spluff5 | This particular one uses monopoles. You can see the two high-intensity electron beams and the particle accelerator that makes the monopoles. |
21:11.57 | Monet | Xho: Sorry about your cat. 19 is an amazing age though. |
21:12.02 | Xho | 17 |
21:13.33 | Monet | still a good long life for a cat. |
21:13.51 | Xho | Yeah |
21:15.29 | Spluff5 | I don't like way the lighting came out though, is there a way to make stuff brighter but still look like it's in space? |
21:16.54 | Hachiman | Put it next to a sun |
21:17.12 | Xho | 10/1- |
21:17.36 | Xho | Wormy_: What site did you get your PC from |
21:17.46 | Wormy_ | Cyberpower |
21:17.52 | Hachiman | PC World |
21:17.58 | Wormy_ | Christmas deal is best |
21:18.25 | Wormy_ | Don't listen to the hate about Cyberpower my PC is awesomesauce |
21:19.03 | Wormy_ | More powerful yet £1000 cheaper than the equivelient Alienware |
21:19.13 | Wormy_ | *equivalent |
21:19.16 | Xho | hm |
21:19.16 | drom | How many of ya'all had tried making their own computer rig from scratch? |
21:19.21 | drom | raises a hand |
21:19.23 | Xho | I was looking at an Alienware |
21:19.32 | Xho | Decent price all things considered |
21:19.39 | Wormy_ | No, but I had my computer assembled from parts I selected |
21:19.50 | Spluff5 | http://imgur.com/9FJTSdY |
21:20.17 | drom | Anyway, what are your thoughts on the Kurinnurii cuisine so far? |
21:20.27 | Spluff5 | Paradoxically, the solution was to make it night time on the planet right where it was. |
21:20.29 | Monet | Alienware is good but can be overpriced. |
21:20.35 | drom | second paragraph in here http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Kurinnur_Technocracy#Culture_.26_Ethics |
21:20.54 | drom | ops, gotta go |
21:21.22 | Wormy_ | Xho: If you are going Cyberpower, I'd wait until the winter deals |
21:23.17 | Xho | I cannot wait that long |
21:24.07 | Spluff5 | I like the cuisine, sounds kind of Klingon. |
21:24.15 | Spluff5 | Also, space Marmite. |
21:25.28 | Wormy_ | +1 for saying marmite, not vegemite |
21:27.57 | Xho | Might try Cyberpower then |
21:28.06 | Xho | 2000 pounds is better than 3000 |
21:30.34 | Monet | http://www.pcgamer.com/lindsay-lohans-gta-5-lawsuit-has-been-tossed-out-of-court/ well that took forever. |
21:30.57 | Xho | yuy |
21:32.15 | DrodoEmpire_ | hur |
21:33.28 | *** join/#sporewiki Groxkiller98 (520393e3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.3.147.227) |
21:33.30 | Groxkiller98 | Heya. |
21:33.32 | Xho | Might work on the Zhulultu homeworld |
21:33.33 | Xho | Hi |
21:33.46 | Quark8 | Hello. |
21:33.51 | Groxkiller98 | I had an idea for a Teyan military technology. |
21:34.04 | Groxkiller98 | Anyone seen the Titans from 40K? |
21:34.07 | Groxkiller98 | That. |
21:34.13 | Groxkiller98 | But... Bigger. |
21:34.18 | DrodoEmpire_ | :p |
21:34.19 | Monet | Seems the primary reason for dismissal is Lacey Jonas and Red Bikini Girl is neither were ever named "Lindsay Lohan", and the two weren't played by or a photograph of her |
21:34.25 | DrodoEmpire_ | So a ridiculously-massive mech |
21:34.33 | Groxkiller98 | Yes! |
21:34.53 | Groxkiller98 | Because nothing beats having the biggest, flashiest gun! |
21:35.02 | DrodoEmpire_ | Personally, I'm not the *biggest* fan of mechs but they absolutely have their uses |
21:35.06 | DrodoEmpire_ | But why so large? |
21:35.11 | DrodoEmpire_ | And how large are you thinking? |
21:35.15 | Groxkiller98 | Because it's big and flashy? |
21:35.34 | DrodoEmpire_ | How large are you thinking? |
21:35.37 | Monet | As a video game, the two were also protected by the right of Free Speech as an image of fiction and satire |
21:36.25 | Groxkiller98 | I was thinking between 10 and 70 meters tall. |
21:37.04 | DrodoEmpire_ | Hmm |
21:37.05 | Ghelaway | That's quite a height range. |
21:37.09 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
21:37.11 | Groxkiller98 | It is. |
21:37.21 | Groxkiller98 | Different classes are different sizes. |
21:37.25 | Hachiman | That's a lot of resources for something that will have its legs blown out from underneath it |
21:37.41 | DrodoEmpire_ | A thirty-foot tall mech *could* work |
21:37.44 | Hachiman | In regards to practicality, I much prefer the battlesuits used in Starship Troopers |
21:37.49 | DrodoEmpire_ | It'd be enormous |
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21:37.53 | Groxkiller98 | Scouting Titanmechs would be 10-15. Battle Titanmechs would be 30-50 |
21:37.55 | DrodoEmpire_ | But its still rather big |
21:37.57 | Hachiman | Speaking of small dongs |
21:37.59 | Hachiman | Hi |
21:38.10 | Quark8 | Hello OluapPlayer. |
21:38.10 | DrodoEmpire_ | Why would you use an enormous titan for scouting? |
21:38.12 | DrodoEmpire_ | o.O |
21:38.24 | Groxkiller98 | Because big, and flashy? |
21:38.28 | Xho | ups |
21:38.33 | DrodoEmpire_ | You use an plane, jeep, radar, or cavalryman for that |
21:38.46 | Groxkiller98 | Have you seen the scouting Titans in 40K? |
21:38.50 | Hachiman | I honestly have come to prefer Tau battlesuits; I just find Titans kinda silly |
21:39.00 | DrodoEmpire_ | Its still a ridiculous idea |
21:39.03 | Hachiman | And yes, I have; it's not efficient for scouting despite the name due to its size |
21:39.08 | DrodoEmpire_ | Here, I'll explain something |
21:39.10 | Groxkiller98 | It's about big and flashy. |
21:39.19 | DrodoEmpire_ | I *love* rule of cool, and I use it in my fiction |
21:39.24 | Groxkiller98 | ^ |
21:39.27 | DrodoEmpire_ | But for something to actually becool it still has to work |
21:39.32 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
21:39.33 | DrodoEmpire_ | It has to be justified and somewhat practical |
21:39.46 | Hachiman | Yeah |
21:39.47 | DrodoEmpire_ | What you're proposing isn't practical and lacks any real justification |
21:39.50 | Groxkiller98 | Terror tactics. |
21:40.00 | DrodoEmpire_ | Terror doesn't win wars |
21:40.11 | DrodoEmpire_ | And it isn;t worth investing so much in to |
21:40.13 | Hachiman | Do you ever wonder why terror tactics are not used by official militaries |
21:40.25 | Groxkiller98 | Because ethics? |
21:40.25 | DrodoEmpire_ | Partly because its completely immoral and we have laws against |
21:40.28 | DrodoEmpire_ | *that |
21:40.42 | Groxkiller98 | Whatever! I'm going to do it! |
21:40.43 | Monet | "big and flashy" and "scouting" *really* don't mix well |
21:40.50 | Hachiman | You have Rule of Cool and then you have just being flat out retarded |
21:40.53 | DrodoEmpire_ | And partly because a *real* military will never allow such an enemy the opportunity to terrorise |
21:41.02 | Hachiman | And 40k has an occasional tendency to be retarded at times |
21:41.04 | Xho | why not rule of retard |
21:41.06 | DrodoEmpire_ | Groxkiller98: If you're gonna do it anyway why ask for advice |
21:41.09 | DrodoEmpire_ | *? |
21:41.11 | Hachiman | retards do not have rules |
21:41.15 | Groxkiller98 | ... |
21:41.35 | DrodoEmpire_ | We're telling you stuff and you're saying "fuck that!" |
21:41.38 | DrodoEmpire_ | You're allowed to |
21:41.39 | Groxkiller98 | I wanted opinions. Didn't mean I was gonna change my mind based on the opinion |
21:41.39 | Xho | Santorakh - dam straight |
21:41.42 | DrodoEmpire_ | But I don't recomment it |
21:42.01 | Groxkiller98 | They're like mobile fortresses. |
21:42.05 | Monet | Groxkiller: That's not really how feedback works. |
21:42.07 | Groxkiller98 | And look a weird. |
21:42.13 | Groxkiller98 | Awesome* |
21:42.23 | Groxkiller98 | Sometimes I hate my phone... |
21:42.29 | Hachiman | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/5/57/Stitch16.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130419052459 Stealth battlesuits are still one of my favourite things regarding the Tau |
21:42.39 | Groxkiller98 | I'm gonna try make them look realistic enough, still. |
21:42.50 | Groxkiller98 | But honestly; Rule of Cool. |
21:42.58 | Groxkiller98 | That's all the reason I need. |
21:42.59 | DrodoEmpire_ | Rule of cool still needs justification |
21:43.07 | DrodoEmpire_ | I do that-- you aren't |
21:43.10 | DrodoEmpire_ | But go right ahead |
21:43.15 | OluapPlayer | What you're suggesting isn't cool |
21:43.20 | Groxkiller98 | ... |
21:43.22 | Groxkiller98 | :( |
21:43.33 | Monet | It's showing off more than anything. |
21:43.38 | Xho | My parents used the word cool once |
21:43.47 | Groxkiller98 | That's the Teyan for you... |
21:43.52 | Hachiman | 40k gets away with it because Titans are used to fight equally large and terrifying threats |
21:44.26 | Hachiman | Although Chaos just dumps Titans wherever because they're Chaos and they're a bunch of madmen |
21:44.29 | Groxkiller98 | The Teyan can be show offs. Doesn't make it effective. But they can pour resources into it if they want. |
21:44.34 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
21:44.40 | Groxkiller98 | Chaos! Perfect! |
21:44.41 | Xho | Well instead of making them mechs |
21:44.48 | Xho | Make actual mobile fortresses |
21:44.51 | Xho | That's more feasible |
21:44.53 | Hachiman | Walking tanks |
21:44.54 | OluapPlayer | That just means they'll get their asses kicked and get annihilated |
21:44.57 | Groxkiller98 | I'll mix the two. |
21:44.57 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
21:45.00 | Monet | In XCOM Chryssalids are used as a terror weapon. But *only* as a terror weapon. As beasts bred to kill they're very good at killing but practically uncontrollable. |
21:45.07 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
21:45.28 | DrodoEmpire_ | They tend to get their asses handed to them by well-positioned soldiers with guns :p |
21:45.51 | Monet | Terror weapons are for making the enemy shit themselves, weapons of war are for making sure the enemy dies in a controlled and effective manner. |
21:45.56 | Hachiman | That's a lot of valuable time and resources being pooled into something that just goes into a terror weapon |
21:46.02 | Groxkiller98 | Well, an overly massive, mobile, metal monstrosity is still pretty terrifying when it's aiming everything it has at you. |
21:46.07 | OluapPlayer | We're a website that doesn't really approve of dickwaving |
21:46.18 | Hachiman | Yeah but for some reason we keep Xho around |
21:46.26 | DrodoEmpire_ | ayy |
21:46.27 | DrodoEmpire_ | <.< |
21:46.27 | Groxkiller98 | It's not trying to be dick waving. |
21:46.33 | OluapPlayer | Xho is an exception since he always loses in the end |
21:46.33 | DrodoEmpire_ | Anyway |
21:46.34 | Groxkiller98 | Xx |
21:46.38 | Monet | Groxkiller98: It's also a massive target for enemy artillery and air support. |
21:46.38 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
21:46.42 | DrodoEmpire_ | Like I said, feel free to make it |
21:46.50 | Xho | do what you will i already won |
21:46.54 | DrodoEmpire_ | But don't ever complain of belittling |
21:46.55 | DrodoEmpire_ | :p |
21:47.02 | Groxkiller98 | Well... Ever heard of the Distraction Carnifex? |
21:47.12 | Hachiman | Yes and that's dumb |
21:47.15 | DrodoEmpire_ | A competent military *will* destroy your titans easily |
21:47.16 | Groxkiller98 | It works. |
21:47.21 | DrodoEmpire_ | No |
21:47.25 | Hachiman | Also Tyranids use Zerg tactics |
21:47.28 | Groxkiller98 | It used to. |
21:47.29 | DrodoEmpire_ | Just because someone else does it doesn't mean it works |
21:47.34 | Xho | I already have the eternal destroyer gods so I can lose all I want |
21:47.36 | DrodoEmpire_ | It means they *think* it works |
21:47.37 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
21:47.44 | Hachiman | aka the most basic and primitive form of warfare |
21:48.09 | Groxkiller98 | I'm going to ally with the Xhodocto. If they don't murder me first... |
21:49.06 | Groxkiller98 | Xhodocto, can my races be your underlings for protection when they waste military resources on pointlessly flash garbage? |
21:49.12 | Groxkiller98 | Xho* |
21:49.12 | DrodoEmpire_ | ... |
21:49.17 | Groxkiller98 | Again. Phone... |
21:49.18 | Hachiman | This is about as retarded as the idea of nations using kaiju |
21:49.21 | DrodoEmpire_ | My head... |
21:49.39 | Groxkiller98 | Okay. Yeah. This has devolved a lot... |
21:49.41 | Quark8 | ~revive DrodoEmpire_ |
21:49.41 | infobot | ACTION performs the Heimlich, mouth-to-mouth, shock treatment and anything else necessary to revive DrodoEmpire_ |
21:49.53 | Quark8 | Are you better now? |
21:49.57 | Groxkiller98 | I'll revise my idea. |
21:50.05 | Monet | Good idea |
21:50.07 | DrodoEmpire_ | A bit >.< |
21:50.12 | DrodoEmpire_ | Excellent plan |
21:50.13 | Groxkiller98 | But I'm keeping some flashy stuff. |
21:50.14 | Quark8 | ~congratulate Groxkiller98 |
21:50.14 | infobot | ACTION congratulates Groxkiller98 on being a new owner of a $500 brick. |
21:50.23 | Quark8 | Dere. |
21:50.24 | Groxkiller98 | And |
21:50.25 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxXEPk3dzFg Dominion council right now |
21:50.35 | Groxkiller98 | ... Biggness. |
21:50.59 | Hachiman | Xho: do yoo baleev in da devil |
21:51.17 | Groxkiller98 | I might actually have some mad Teyan general try build a Titan, just because he can... |
21:51.21 | Xho | Hez - OUR BOOLETS WILL PIERCE DER BRAINS LIKE BUTTA |
21:51.24 | DrodoEmpire_ | Xho: http://i.imgur.com/16Np16F.gif |
21:52.10 | Hachiman | Hm, Sylit battlesuits, I wonder |
21:52.15 | Hachiman | Fuck Imp's gone |
21:52.16 | DrodoEmpire_ | Could be cool |
21:52.35 | DrodoEmpire_ | Power armour's pretty practical stuff- the Drodo use mechanical modifications to their armour if not full suits |
21:53.03 | Ghelaway | Groxkiller98: Drodo did say that these mechs could have their uses. Just that scouting is absolutely not one of them. |
21:53.08 | Groxkiller98 | I tried that for my Mithadorn. Failed miserable with it. |
21:53.15 | DrodoEmpire_ | More like Stormtrooper armour but with added leg enhancements especially for increased mobility (sprinting, high-jump, etc.) and load-bearing |
21:53.31 | DrodoEmpire_ | Ghelaway: *Limited* use, mind you |
21:53.53 | DrodoEmpire_ | Granted Drodo Colonial militias get a uniform and a steel helmet <.< |
21:55.06 | Quark8 | Hm. I'm not sure if I should play Stellaris or EUIV now. |
21:55.19 | *** part/#sporewiki Groxkiller98 (520393e3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.3.147.227) |
21:55.21 | Hachiman | Stellaris IV |
21:55.29 | DrodoEmpire_ | hur |
21:55.35 | OluapPlayer | How old is that guy? He acts like a 14 year old |
21:55.38 | DrodoEmpire_ | Make the Ming tentacle of knowledge |
21:55.42 | DrodoEmpire_ | Probably 14 |
21:55.47 | DrodoEmpire_ | Westernise |
21:55.49 | Monet | There are very few places a mech that big could be tactically viable and not be a massive target |
21:55.50 | DrodoEmpire_ | COnquer the world |
21:55.53 | OluapPlayer | my BIG and AWESOME mech |
21:55.54 | DrodoEmpire_ | Yeah |
21:56.16 | Monet | I've known 11-year-olds say stuff like that. |
21:56.23 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
21:56.28 | Hachiman | I mean, fuck, I've said shit like that when I was younger |
21:56.35 | Hachiman | And I look back and think how retarded I was |
21:56.54 | DrodoEmpire_ | Bad- or young- writers- replace good writing with "muh scale" |
21:56.59 | Quark8 | Well, considering that I'm around 14, give or take a few years, I feel slightly mature. |
21:57.02 | DrodoEmpire_ | *writers replace |
21:57.16 | *** join/#sporewiki Groxkiller98 (520393e3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.3.147.227) |
21:57.23 | Groxkiller98 | I crashed. :| |
21:57.24 | DrodoEmpire_ | Yeah its definitely not a universal Quark |
21:57.49 | DrodoEmpire_ | I'm sixteen now, which made me like thirteen when I joined |
21:58.03 | Quark8 | I joined the wiki underage :P. |
21:58.03 | DrodoEmpire_ | I was an idiot until like mid 2014, maybe longer |
21:58.08 | DrodoEmpire_ | <.< |
21:58.11 | OluapPlayer | ur an idiot now lmao |
21:58.14 | DrodoEmpire_ | >: |
21:58.20 | Technobliterator | I think everyone went through that phase |
21:58.24 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
21:58.29 | Technobliterator | of "I need the biggest thing eveeeeer" |
21:58.41 | OluapPlayer | you included |
21:58.46 | Hachiman | muh time gods |
21:58.46 | Technobliterator | Of course |
21:58.46 | Quark8 | Looking back at my earliest fiction, it was complete and absolute s***. |
21:58.48 | Hachiman | muh kanye west |
21:58.50 | Technobliterator | I was the textbook example |
21:58.51 | OluapPlayer | original talkar haw |
21:58.57 | OluapPlayer | taldar even |
21:59.07 | OluapPlayer | Granted I came back to the wiki after the Taldar got revised |
21:59.14 | Technobliterator | I don't know anyone but Ghelae and Random who really avoided that phase |
21:59.20 | OluapPlayer | I didn't experience their original version |
21:59.25 | Technobliterator | Meanwhile, Mush made it his entire "career" |
21:59.29 | Hachiman | hur |
21:59.30 | DrodoEmpire_ | ayyyyy lmao |
21:59.31 | OluapPlayer | kek |
21:59.45 | Hachiman | I wonder if he'll ever come back |
21:59.57 | The_Randomness | I remember calling people out on that lol |
21:59.58 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
22:00.01 | Hachiman | Or is he just like actually permabanned |
22:00.02 | OluapPlayer | I am Mush |
22:00.03 | Ghelaway | He still edits, occasionally. Not logged in. |
22:00.05 | OluapPlayer | stripping angels and shit |
22:00.12 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Zhulvuran planet of dead ayy lmaos |
22:00.24 | Hachiman | wat is dis shi dead space |
22:00.38 | Xho | Pretty much |
22:00.50 | DrodoEmpire_ | ey laymo |
22:00.51 | Quark8 | Who was Mush? |
22:01.03 | Monet | The Zhul beacon on Earth could qualify as the Marker. |
22:01.06 | OluapPlayer | An user infamous for his narcissism |
22:01.06 | DrodoEmpire_ | Controversial user a while back |
22:01.09 | Hachiman | Mush was the mushiest mush who ever did mush |
22:01.20 | DrodoEmpire_ | I was just joining when that drama was going on I think |
22:01.22 | Xho | He was basically me but twice the dick |
22:01.35 | Hachiman | Yeah |
22:01.48 | Xho | Maybe triple actually I'm not that much of a dick now |
22:02.27 | The_Randomness | I was a little shit until a few years ago, and it was only this year that I stopped being a pleb |
22:02.56 | OluapPlayer | Leaving the wiki doesn't count as stopping being a pleb |
22:03.06 | The_Randomness | :P |
22:03.17 | Monet | Xho: You were aggressive, Mush was just arrogant |
22:05.53 | Wormy_ | I used to be *more* sensible when I was younger here |
22:06.08 | DrodoEmpire_ | Really? XD |
22:06.26 | Wormy_ | I used to be the big sensible admin who never joked and took neutral positions and so on |
22:06.38 | Wormy_ | And then I discovered BEER |
22:06.45 | OluapPlayer | You still are tho |
22:07.31 | Wormy_ | Good, I've felt as though I'd lost it |
22:07.39 | Xho | Hm |
22:07.40 | Quark|Stellaris | Wormy_: I can't be punished for joining the wiki underage, right? |
22:07.50 | Wormy_ | No |
22:07.57 | Quark|Stellaris | Phew. |
22:08.03 | Xho | Anyone here got any suggestions for how a star's life cycle could be prolonged well beyond its natural span |
22:08.20 | Quark|Stellaris | Technology that uses Handwavium. |
22:08.23 | Wormy_ | You can try removing it's mass |
22:08.38 | Xho | If there's no clear cut explanation I'll just owe it to Zhulultu ultra technology |
22:08.44 | OluapPlayer | My internet is exceptionally shitty today |
22:08.53 | OluapPlayer | Taking ages to load a minute long video |
22:09.21 | Monet | Yeah. The plasma on a star's surface will never get used for fusion, so it can be extracted, which relieves pressure on the core. |
22:09.36 | Technobliterator | He was liked for a brief period, then he acted like an asshat on IRC |
22:09.39 | Wormy_ | You could remove mass by squeezing the star with superconducting magnets or grazing it with a powerful laser. Or use wormhole technology |
22:09.43 | Technobliterator | and so is no longer popular |
22:09.59 | Xho | I'm getting the more artistic concept of the star actually being black in colour but how that would work I don't know |
22:10.17 | OluapPlayer | Ultraterrestrial dongery |
22:10.23 | Xho | And this being some kind of 'immortalised energy source' the Zhulultu created in the Tuuros Galaxy |
22:10.29 | Wormy_ | That'd be impossible as far as my knowledge goes |
22:10.46 | Monet | if a star is black, it's not generating any heat. |
22:10.47 | OluapPlayer | Pump it with demonic energy |
22:10.48 | OluapPlayer | dun |
22:11.01 | Xho | i broke the wiki |
22:11.20 | Xho | Might not actually be a star of course |
22:11.23 | Wormy_ | Stars generally follow the blackbody curve so even stars trhat emit mostly in ultraviolet radiation will emit enough in the visual spectrum as well to be white or bluish |
22:11.43 | Xho | Might be a self-sustaining megaconstruct instead that looks like a star but just black |
22:11.57 | Hachiman | You know |
22:12.02 | Hachiman | You could just have it be a black hole |
22:12.04 | Wormy_ | Hm, my hyperspaces are invisible come to think of it |
22:12.07 | Hachiman | Black holes can function as stars |
22:12.11 | Xho | Although it would need to project the necessary energy to sustain a planet |
22:12.14 | Wormy_ | *hyperspace stars |
22:12.23 | Wormy_ | ... Hachi is right |
22:12.29 | Xho | Black holes don't emit light from what I gather |
22:12.31 | Xho | Or do they |
22:12.47 | Wormy_ | Sometimes overcomplicating things misses the answer |
22:12.53 | OluapPlayer | If it's black you're not gonna get light from it to begin with |
22:13.08 | Xho | Well it's black in colour but still gives off light because fuck physics |
22:13.28 | OluapPlayer | More like fuck your idea, it doesn't work hur |
22:13.34 | Wormy_ | Well, they do. The light just can't escape |
22:13.37 | Hachiman | Yeah |
22:13.45 | Hachiman | But planets still benefit from that light |
22:13.57 | Xho | That would have to be intense light though |
22:14.18 | OluapPlayer | Gravity wise a planet can safely orbit a black hole as long as it's not too close |
22:14.22 | Hachiman | Yeah |
22:14.34 | Wormy_ | The light planets would receive by orbiting black holes would come from the accretion disc and lensing of light from behind |
22:14.44 | Hachiman | That's it, the accretion disc |
22:14.49 | Hachiman | That's what I was looking for |
22:14.57 | Hachiman | It works in place of a star |
22:15.06 | Xho | >tfw The Wound is actually a colossal black hole |
22:15.25 | OluapPlayer | Universe - not our problem just tuuros's |
22:15.31 | Wormy_ | In a weird way though, black holes can emit radiation by capturing one of two virtual particles in a pair and letting the other escape |
22:15.39 | Xho | It still needs some kind of alien style engineering to it though otherwise it's not mysterious enough |
22:15.48 | Wormy_ | not enough to see though |
22:16.07 | OluapPlayer | There can be engineering around the black hole, but not in the black hole itself |
22:16.28 | Xho | Hm |
22:16.50 | Wormy_ | Maybe the megastructure somehow does absorb all the radiation emitted by the star, but uses something like metric shields of hyperspace to dump it |
22:17.04 | Wormy_ | *metric shields or |
22:17.30 | Xho | super huge megaconstruct orbiting black hole |
22:18.45 | Wormy_ | Sounds like just the thing Zhulultu wuld build |
22:19.02 | Xho | Well the Zhulultu would build much bigger really |
22:19.16 | OluapPlayer | You really have no idea of what you're talking about hur |
22:19.38 | Hachiman | What if the Zhulultu created miniature black holes in orbit of the black hole their world orbits |
22:19.43 | Hachiman | For some reason |
22:19.57 | Xho | "NOT BLACK ENOUGH" - Zhuleshxi |
22:19.59 | Monet | Could be cool for a computer. |
22:20.02 | Hachiman | Yeah |
22:20.05 | OluapPlayer | "santorakh made us do it" |
22:21.16 | Xho | I would have imagined that the Zhulultu would have engineered an entire galaxy into a power source |
22:21.51 | Monet | To be anything less than a Type III would be a disservice. |
22:22.02 | Hachiman | Don't they have stuff around the supermassive black hole at their galactic core |
22:22.07 | Xho | They do |
22:22.11 | Xho | Or did |
22:23.25 | Xho | They did have the ol' Scourge Devices as well |
22:23.59 | Wormy_ | I suspect harnessing an entire galaxy would be off the table since hyperspace exists |
22:24.30 | Hachiman | inb4 Zhulultu have somehow managed to put black holes in hyperspace |
22:24.32 | Hachiman | Or something |
22:24.39 | Xho | Zhulesxhi - fuck you all |
22:24.48 | OluapPlayer | Universe - ded |
22:24.50 | Wormy_ | Certainly possible, all the physics of realspace exist in that layer too |
22:24.56 | Hachiman | And have hypercomputers in hyperspace built around them |
22:25.04 | Wormy_ | I already have hyperspace stars |
22:25.06 | Xho | Hyperspatial Black Hole |
22:25.10 | Wormy_ | Which I'm going to bring back |
22:25.27 | Xho | could work |
22:25.58 | Wormy_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User%3AWormulon/Recent_works#Future.3B_uncertain |
22:26.26 | Wormy_ | that's my fiction dump until I've caught up |
22:26.42 | Xho | But I do want to create some kind of self-perpetuating energy source that's of enough advancement to be considered Ultraterrestrial |
22:26.58 | Xho | To replace stars |
22:27.34 | Xho | Because I have an idea for it to be used as goldmines for Schism races because of their resource crisis |
22:28.48 | Quark8 | Ooh interesting. |
22:28.56 | Wormy_ | Well, low-mass and degenerate stars are good for that role, since they are self-sustaining for long time periods |
22:29.36 | Wormy_ | But it makes me think these races uses wormholehole technology to balance the age of the star by taking away and adding mass |
22:29.48 | Wormy_ | (using a laptop not used to typing on it) |
22:30.45 | Quark8 | bbl |
22:32.53 | Monet | Xho: Maybe they've found a way to cluster hypermatter in realspace? |
22:33.38 | Xho | I'm just looking at Orion's Arm for ideaas |
22:33.40 | Xho | ideas |
22:34.04 | OluapPlayer | 2muchscience4me |
22:34.38 | Xho | OluapPlayer: [10:19] <@OluapPlayer> You really have no idea of what you're talking about hur [10:33] <@OluapPlayer> 2muchscience4me U DUN GOOF'D |
22:34.45 | Wormy_ | DrodoEmpire http://i.imgur.com/Jg15Hid.jpg |
22:34.50 | OluapPlayer | I never said I knew tho |
22:35.15 | Xho | Angelnets are a good idea for Zhulultu tech |
22:35.35 | Xho | Although Angelnet is probably too benevolent a term for what they did |
22:35.38 | Hachiman | Ooh, perhaps the Zhulultu made mechs that are 10m - 70m tall and use them for scouting because they're big and flashy |
22:35.44 | OluapPlayer | Demonnet |
22:36.02 | Xho | Krath - MUST BROWSE |
22:36.04 | Hachiman | Demonet |
22:36.10 | Xho | Demopan |
22:36.16 | OluapPlayer | STOUT SHAKO |
22:36.21 | Wormy_ | "Demons to some. Angels to others" Pinhead |
22:36.55 | Wormy_ | Wouldn't surprise me if these guys see Xhodocto as angels |
22:36.56 | Xho | Mightbeademonet |
22:37.50 | OluapPlayer | You had the quark life call them Angel Plasma so it'd not be the first time |
22:38.29 | Xho | Krath - cosmospawn represent |
22:39.45 | Xho | Wormy_: Would Godstars work |
22:40.19 | Wormy_ | Like a big cloudy AI thing around the star? |
22:40.31 | Wormy_ | Don't see why not |
22:41.12 | Xho | Well I'm reading it's an archailect in the form of a star |
22:41.31 | Wormy_ | Ooh that's a new article to me |
22:42.00 | Xho | http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/462d9a409a10b I dunno it looks a star to me |
22:42.20 | Xho | As for the Zhulultu they could either designed things of that complexity or enslaved them |
22:42.21 | Xho | Or both |
22:42.50 | Wormy_ | Looks like in OA, they are stars that have been uplifted into beings |
22:43.16 | Wormy_ | I wouldn't know how that is done, but SporeWikiverse tech is magical enough to allow for it |
22:44.00 | Xho | Well, Zhulultu technology enslaving those things could work |
22:44.24 | Hachiman | They could work as Zhulultu super-AI |
22:44.39 | Xho | Zhulultu - >tfw we're actually smarter than the super-AI |
22:45.19 | OluapPlayer | I doubt you want your AIs to be smarter than you |
22:45.23 | Wormy_ | OA has articles on plasma computing, so I presume the star's inner processes have been somehow arranged into plasma processing |
22:45.29 | OluapPlayer | That's like the reason Mass Effect happened |
22:45.45 | Hachiman | SYNTHETICS AND ORGANICS CANNOT LIVE IN PEACE |
22:45.51 | Hachiman | except quarians and geth |
22:46.05 | Cyrannian | *insert tali suicide* |
22:46.05 | OluapPlayer | But they couldn't live in peace for 90% of their screentime |
22:46.16 | OluapPlayer | >not saving both |
22:46.19 | OluapPlayer | dunt b a pleb |
22:46.21 | Wormy_ | In real life organics and synths will both keep looking at porn of the opposite |
22:47.07 | Wormy_ | Here's their article on plasma processing http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/506308cd7f8c1 |
22:47.18 | Hachiman | I mean, we're already sleeping with dumb AI synthetics |
22:47.23 | Wormy_ | Okay so it uses monopole matter, that might be strong enough to survive in the star |
22:48.35 | Xho | Gonna go to sleep now |
22:48.40 | Wormy_ | Also, I'm sure Google Now has a crush on me |
22:49.40 | OluapPlayer | more like a crush on everyone who speaks to it |
22:49.43 | OluapPlayer | ur waifu is a slut |
22:53.30 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/6avKqsu.jpg |
22:56.04 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/IY2Z6ov.jpg |
22:57.14 | Wormy_ | God help us all http://i.imgur.com/gu07dW0.jpg |
22:57.23 | DrodoEmpire_ | >.< |
22:57.43 | DrodoEmpire_ | What an intellectual warrior <.< |
22:57.58 | OluapPlayer | baaa |
22:58.10 | Monet | That man of intelligence and wisdom just insulted every military personnel on Earth. |
22:59.00 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
22:59.20 | OluapPlayer | He can deflect gunshots with his fedora aura |
22:59.34 | Monet | He's wearing a flatcap. |
22:59.39 | Monet | But also a turtleneck. |
22:59.50 | Wormy_ | What gets me is that he doesn't concern himself with the opinion of sheep to someone who just said "no thanks" |
22:59.55 | Monet | He can deflect bullets with his turtleneck aura. |
23:01.01 | Hachiman | Oh it's fine to insult military personnel, they're military and they kill people; war is bad and if you're a soldier, you deserve nothing but shit because you're just a murderer with a permit |
23:01.02 | OluapPlayer | Immune to bullets and girlfriends |
23:03.23 | Cyrannian | Bit rude to sheep https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nioBvJxGU9M |
23:03.33 | Wormy_ | we could all just sit down ad vape http://i.imgur.com/0y22hRZ.jpg |
23:04.23 | Hachiman | I should note that I'm just joking btw |
23:04.24 | DrodoEmpire_ | Hachiman: hyperedge |
23:04.26 | DrodoEmpire_ | <.< |
23:04.36 | Hachiman | Thing is, there are people who talk like that |
23:04.53 | Hachiman | Mostly far-lefties |
23:04.57 | OluapPlayer | Yeah but their opinions don't matter |
23:05.00 | Hachiman | And Tumblrists |
23:05.02 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
23:05.25 | Wormy_ | Or just edgy hipsters |
23:07.01 | Monet | "wa |
23:07.15 | Monet | "killing is bad, m'kay" |
23:07.47 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/jiFSrnE.jpg |
23:08.11 | Monet | It sickens me when people moan that military personnel are little more than murderers with permits. |
23:08.26 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
23:08.42 | DrodoEmpire_ | My history teacher last year came dangerously close to saying that *multiple times* |
23:09.24 | DrodoEmpire_ | I mean, he called Billy Bishop- our best fighter ace- a murderer |
23:09.30 | DrodoEmpire_ | Which pissed me off a bit |
23:09.33 | DrodoEmpire_ | He also said Canada isn't a real country |
23:09.38 | Wormy_ | Can someone explain this one to me? http://i.imgur.com/WzXBojC.jpg |
23:09.51 | OluapPlayer | "next time when war is declared you go and tell the enemy army how triggered you are" |
23:10.01 | Wormy_ | Sounds like a "history" teacher |
23:10.23 | DrodoEmpire_ | Wormy_ I think the joke is that that guy was so eager to say something's "cringey" |
23:10.28 | DrodoEmpire_ | Oluap: hur |
23:10.30 | Technobliterator | it's not the fault of the military personnel |
23:10.36 | Technobliterator | It's the fault of people who start pointless wars |
23:10.45 | DrodoEmpire_ | And yeah I want to say my history teacher's an asswipe |
23:10.47 | DrodoEmpire_ | And he is |
23:10.49 | Wormy_ | Oh right, and then dug their own cringe pit |
23:10.54 | DrodoEmpire_ | But he's an interesting asswipe |
23:11.10 | DrodoEmpire_ | And he's, like, he's clearly smart, and has a dark sense of humour I enjoy |
23:11.23 | DrodoEmpire_ | But some of the shit he says in class >.< |
23:11.27 | Hachiman | People who comment "cringe" on stuff that isn't cringey are cringe |
23:11.31 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
23:11.43 | OluapPlayer | ur cringy tho |
23:11.57 | DrodoEmpire_ | CRINGIEST IRC COMMENT ON YOUTUBE |
23:11.59 | Monet | Whenever anti-war advocates talk about murder militaries they're generally talking about 8-10% of the military. |
23:12.02 | Hachiman | tell u wats cringeworthy women rights |
23:12.12 | OluapPlayer | OOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
23:12.27 | OluapPlayer | CRINGIEST IRC COMMENT ON YOUTUBE [GONE SEXUAL] |
23:12.31 | OluapPlayer | needs more clickbait |
23:12.33 | DrodoEmpire_ | ^ |
23:12.47 | Hachiman | I also think it would be right to bring up the fact that many soldiers go on to become anti-war advocates |
23:12.48 | Technobliterator | ._. |
23:13.09 | Monet | Hachiman: They have reason. |
23:13.13 | DrodoEmpire_ | CRINGIEST IRC COMMENT ON YOUTUBE [GONE SEXUAL] pewdiepie #DramaAlert |
23:13.18 | DrodoEmpire_ | Fixed for more clickbait |
23:13.24 | OluapPlayer | kek |
23:14.02 | Monet | But to assume everyone in the military is/was a killer is insultingly disrespectful to support personnel. |
23:14.14 | Monet | Who make up the vast majority of military staff. |
23:14.20 | Hachiman | Aye |
23:14.22 | DrodoEmpire_ | Its insultingly disrespectful to the people who *have* killed |
23:14.32 | DrodoEmpire_ | COnsidering the sheer amount of guilt the vast majority of them feel afterwards |
23:14.35 | OluapPlayer | I doubt many soldiers actually enjoy killing anyway |
23:14.41 | Hachiman | Yeah |
23:14.52 | OluapPlayer | If you enjoy killing you're sent to a madhouse or a prison, not the army |
23:15.17 | OluapPlayer | wow this is literally Koluap's backstory |
23:15.25 | Hachiman | I know that most people who enjoy war aren't technically considered entirely clinically sane or rational |
23:15.32 | DrodoEmpire_ | It doesn't help that modern training makes shooting to kill a *reflex*, to the point many soldiers don't even truly *think* before they identify the threat, raise their rifle, and shoot |
23:15.40 | Monet | You said Koluap went mad suffering brain damage |
23:15.49 | Hachiman | It's better to not think of the person you're killing as another person |
23:15.59 | OluapPlayer | Yeah then he got sent to a madhouse, then got drafted into war |
23:16.04 | OluapPlayer | And got a colossal kill count |
23:16.26 | Monet | Koluap could have suffered some kind of trauma-related psychosis; Colonel Kurze from Heart of Darkness is a textbook example. |
23:16.26 | Technobliterator | Except of course it's the life of another person you're ending ._. |
23:16.41 | Hachiman | Well of course |
23:16.52 | DrodoEmpire_ | Yeah its horrid stuff |
23:16.55 | Hachiman | But that makes it more difficult for you to do your job so that is why you are conditioned not to think that way |
23:17.09 | OluapPlayer | >Twelve billion, eight hundred and seven million, nine hundred and eighty seven thousand, six hundred and thirty two |
23:17.15 | OluapPlayer | That'd probably trigger a couple of people |
23:17.18 | Hachiman | hur |
23:17.19 | DrodoEmpire_ | Hm? |
23:17.29 | OluapPlayer | Koluap's kill count |
23:17.32 | Hachiman | Wait what |
23:17.43 | Monet | Kurze, iirc, went AWOL in the jungle, and when he was found again he had assumed the position of a tribal king. |
23:17.43 | Hachiman | How did he get over 12 billion kills |
23:17.44 | DrodoEmpire_ | Oh wow |
23:17.47 | Technobliterator | I have no issue with the military personnel. What they're doing is extremely brave throwing their lives on the line like that, and that goes for both sides. So, if you end the life of another military personnel, then as sad as it is for their family, they knew what they were getting into |
23:18.00 | OluapPlayer | Ernai, Marinox and Corruptus Demons |
23:18.01 | Hachiman | Unless they're a conscript |
23:18.06 | DrodoEmpire_ | Unfortunately that is pretty well true |
23:18.07 | OluapPlayer | Mind you he was nearly 1000 years old |
23:18.08 | Technobliterator | The only time I take issue is when they kill civilians, and even then it's probably not their fault |
23:18.14 | Hachiman | In which case they didn't ask for this and had no chance or opportunity to leave |
23:18.18 | Technobliterator | it's probably just them taking orders from higher up |
23:18.30 | Monet | Technobliterator: Fortunately the UN agrees with you. |
23:18.36 | OluapPlayer | That probably also counts kills via spaceship |
23:18.42 | Hachiman | Ah I was gonna say |
23:19.00 | Monet | Sometimes it's orders form higher up, sometimes it's panic, sometimes it's crossfire. |
23:19.06 | Technobliterator | mhm |
23:19.24 | Hachiman | That shotgun he used would probably fetch for a high price if put on the market for how many lives it ended, including his own |
23:19.30 | Monet | In a hotzone there's very little time to work out whose an ally and whose an enemy. |
23:19.31 | OluapPlayer | I'd be willing to say they were all kills on foot but I can claim part of it was spaceship-made if it bothers people |
23:19.32 | Technobliterator | Lots of police brutality is also probably caused by panic |
23:20.08 | Hachiman | To be fair, he wasn't on his own when he was killing people |
23:20.12 | Wormy_ | Apparently this is a very famous car in Oregon and there are lots of pics of it. The owners probably don't even know http://i.imgur.com/lS3F7d0.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zNb7r1R.jpg |
23:20.19 | Hachiman | Except for maybe a couple of times |
23:20.21 | OluapPlayer | His shotgun is probably under Jerkon's possession today |
23:20.37 | OluapPlayer | Though he'd not use it since Jerkon prefers assault rifles |
23:21.22 | Monet | One of the things that caused problems in fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan is any local could be a Taliban or Al Qaeda insurgent. |
23:22.11 | Monet | It was impossible to tell as the terrorists could have engaged while in civilian clothing. |
23:22.30 | Technobliterator | yeah |
23:22.38 | OluapPlayer | I'd say "imagine if Koluap was evil" but I don't imagine he would survive as long as he did if he weren't a good guy |
23:23.01 | Technobliterator | Neither of those wars should've happened, but that's still not the fault of the soldiers |
23:23.03 | Technobliterator | they didn't start it |
23:23.50 | Monet | there's a bit more to Iraq and Afghanistan than oil but maybe that's better discussed in Offtopic |
23:24.12 | Hachiman | I mean, I don't see many reasons for Koluap to go evil |
23:24.30 | OluapPlayer | Get lost in his bloodlust |
23:24.36 | OluapPlayer | Or just be under evil orders |
23:24.59 | Technobliterator | It's funny to think of Koluap as such a murderer |
23:25.01 | Technobliterator | because like |
23:25.03 | Technobliterator | he was such a cool guy |
23:25.04 | OluapPlayer | Which was the case back when he started |
23:25.15 | Monet | He was cool, but he was also unhinged. |
23:25.26 | OluapPlayer | He saw himself as a murderer and that's one reason he blew his own head off |
23:25.43 | Monet | Then again I recall Jerkon was rather nonchalant suggesting genocide on the Draconizane. |
23:25.46 | Hachiman | Realistically I can imagine the people who sent him into war doing so because they didn't expect him to live long |
23:26.02 | OluapPlayer | That's Dracogonarious behavior not limited to Jerkon |
23:26.04 | Hachiman | And then he turns out to have a knack for surviving absurd shit |
23:26.15 | Monet | Jerkon I'd say was definitely suffering a from of war weariness or PTSD. |
23:26.26 | Monet | Koluap I mean |
23:26.35 | OluapPlayer | Koluap's case was PTSD yeah |
23:27.00 | OluapPlayer | Dracogonarious are very cold regarding things they disapprove of |
23:27.06 | OluapPlayer | which sometimes include other people |
23:27.08 | Monet | "How many more must I kill before I can finally rest?" |
23:27.43 | Hachiman | "Man fuck Tyraz, bet he'll hate it if I do this" |
23:28.00 | OluapPlayer | Tyraz - shit |
23:28.16 | Monet | This is a good deal why I initially thought Koluap might have turned to booze in his final days. |
23:28.30 | Hachiman | I forgot that Tyraz is actually dead by the time Koluap an hero's |
23:28.31 | OluapPlayer | He always had a thing for alcohol |
23:28.44 | OluapPlayer | For nearly 15 years yes |
23:29.00 | Monet | It's not uncommon for veterans to turn to drink to chase away the nightmares. |
23:29.20 | Hachiman | Tyraz' Ghost - yo ur still a lil bitch Koluap - shup fag |
23:29.30 | OluapPlayer | This talk is distracting me from getting dinner |
23:29.30 | OluapPlayer | brb |
23:29.36 | Hachiman | hope u starv |
23:30.19 | Monet | In fact before proper forms of therapy were devleoped, the most common thing that happened when soldiers with PTSD returned home was they'd descend into a self-destructive spiral of alcohol, potentially crowned with attempts at suicide. |
23:30.40 | Hachiman | Funny that they rarely, if ever, turned to morphine after the Vietnam War though |
23:31.25 | DrodoEmpire_ | This is, as Trump would put it, "Sad!" |
23:31.26 | DrodoEmpire_ | Like |
23:31.30 | DrodoEmpire_ | Really, really depressing |
23:31.31 | Hachiman | If I recall, it was either morphine or something else that was given to US soldiers during the Vietnam conflict to relieve and offset stress |
23:31.34 | DrodoEmpire_ | Change of subject? |
23:32.21 | Hachiman | I was hoping Imp would still be around but I kinda need naming suggestions for the Sylit equivalent of Marines |
23:32.36 | DrodoEmpire_ | Hmm |
23:32.44 | Hachiman | Like, specialist orbit-to-ground soldiers rather than standard army |
23:32.55 | DrodoEmpire_ | Right |
23:33.11 | DrodoEmpire_ | "Jumpy-landy people" |
23:33.17 | Hachiman | 10/10 |
23:33.25 | DrodoEmpire_ | <.< |
23:33.48 | Monet | "ground-strikers" perhaps? |
23:33.54 | OluapPlayer | Ok here |
23:34.25 | OluapPlayer | "Falco Punchers" |
23:34.29 | Hachiman | Brilliant |
23:34.47 | Hachiman | I was more looking for something fire-oriented to fit in with the rest of the theme |
23:34.56 | Hachiman | Doesn't have to be but I like to be smart and consistent hur |
23:35.11 | Hachiman | I'd use Firebrands but I already reserved that for something else |
23:36.30 | DrodoEmpire_ | Ah |
23:36.39 | Monet | Trickyone |
23:36.42 | Monet | Starfallers? |
23:37.10 | DrodoEmpire_ | "trickyone" is a dumb name Monet |
23:37.12 | DrodoEmpire_ | Jesus christ |
23:37.15 | DrodoEmpire_ | >.> |
23:38.15 | OluapPlayer | lel |
23:40.19 | Monet | Jesus Christ is a bit of a strange name for these marines as well. |
23:40.35 | Hachiman | hur |
23:40.50 | OluapPlayer | #roasted |
23:44.50 | DrodoEmpire_ | >': |
23:50.09 | DrodoEmpire_ | On the extreem keem streem <.< |
23:50.22 | DrodoEmpire_ | Need to study for my next Klaxon post |
23:50.38 | OluapPlayer | studying for the next shitpost |
23:50.39 | OluapPlayer | shame on u |
23:50.57 | DrodoEmpire_ | ;-; |
23:54.04 | Monet | These are funny. |
23:54.35 | Monet | Not sure if Rambert is digging himself a hole by responding to them. |
23:54.48 | DrodoEmpire_ | Maaybe |
23:55.08 | OluapPlayer | i for one welcome our new bird overlords |
23:56.03 | Monet | The Hitler card may have been a stretch but honestly you don't get very far in politics if you're going to cry foul over a bit of insulting tabloid journalism. |
23:57.24 | OluapPlayer | The Hitler card was full retard |
23:57.27 | OluapPlayer | Loron-level retard |
23:57.38 | DrodoEmpire_ | Indeed <.< |
23:58.08 | OluapPlayer | That guy would do well in 21st century Earth |
23:58.41 | Hachiman | I think The Klaxon is unrealistic; surely tabloid journalism would be much worse than it is now hur |
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23:59.09 | Monet | Political discourse may not involve killing peeps (barring calling hits on rivals) but the environment is just as legit a warzone as any battlefield. |
23:59.32 | OluapPlayer | explode all the 'umies |
23:59.59 | DrodoEmpire_ | Hi |