IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160824

00:05.38Wormy_STOMonet, Hachi, The_Randomness, Drodo:  Hah, disrupted a RP in Quark's bar on DS9 between two vulcan players being scientific
00:05.56Wormy_STOI play a Vulcan, so I lay down on the bar and stuck my head between them to listen in
00:06.52The_Randomnesslol
00:08.17DrodoEmpirehur
00:08.33DrodoEmpire'whatcha up to'
00:09.30Wormy_STOI'll post a screenshot lol
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00:15.35ZF101Gotta go. Bye everyone.
00:22.00Wormy_STOThe_Randomness:  The two Vulcan players are having a great fun conersation of human land fills
00:22.07The_Randomnesslol
00:52.33DrodoEmpiretest
01:01.05Wormy_STOThe roleplays were really creepy
01:01.25Wormy_STOOne playing as a psychotic imp like child
01:01.49Wormy_STOTwo Orion lesbians
01:01.58Wormy_STOmaking love RP
01:01.58DrodoEmpireJeez
01:02.10Wormy_STOAnd two very serious vulcans
01:02.39DrodoEmpireWeird
01:09.35DrodoEmpireohgod  really shittyhip-hop version of Ocean Man
01:09.41DrodoEmpire*really shitty hip-hop
01:09.43DrodoEmpireOn this stream
01:09.54DrodoEmpireNow just generally shitty rendition of it >.<
01:17.02DrodoEmpiretest
01:19.25Tek0516Just rewatched Star Trek Beyond. Spent half the movie giving a bunch of assholes the finger.
01:20.51The_Randomnesslol
01:21.51DrodoEmpirelul
01:21.58Tek0516Bunch of fucking assholes spent most of the movie talking, randomly laughing, and jumping around theaters.
01:22.26Tek0516*around the theater
01:23.01DrodoEmpireOh woow
01:23.20Tek0516And there was a dozen of them, all doing this. Except when security came in to kick them out, of course.
01:23.26DrodoEmpirehur
01:23.39DrodoEmpireGood, they sound like a bunch of dickheads
01:23.41DrodoEmpire>.<
01:25.07Tek0516After the movie finished I stood up and just gave them the middle finger for a good 30 seconds. Manager gave everyone who complained a free movie at least.
01:25.35DrodoEmpireOh good
01:26.20Tek0516They kicked out the two they caught too at least. Didn't help much.
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01:29.50Tek0516Just the fact it has me swearing is an indicator of how annoyings those fucking idiots were.
01:30.10Tek0516Hey Charles
01:31.01DrodoEmpireThe fact that you're actually cursing on the IRC shows how upset you are
01:31.06DrodoEmpireYou like never do that
01:31.07DrodoEmpire>.<
01:34.13Tek0516I accidentally swore while home this summer and even my mom was shocked at the fact. >.>
01:39.28DrodoEmpireHuh lol
01:39.49DrodoEmpireI curse like a sailor, so does my entire family >.<
01:40.03DrodoEmpire(proof being I almost wrote "fucking sailor")
01:40.10DrodoEmpireWithout thinking
01:42.04Tek0516At work I seem to end up cursing like a sailor, but usually I'm quiet about it. It physical threats to make me audibly swear the first time. >.>
01:44.11DrodoEmpireAhh
01:54.32Tek0516Made this new draft timeline for the start of the Roreinian Civil War, adjusting the timeframe and adding in the proposed conference. Still need a location for it, due to time it should be in Human space, but the loyalists will object to it being held in France. https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/tJ4qpuFq/Roreinia+Civil+War+Outbreak+Timeline
01:55.12DrodoEmpireOkay great
01:56.37Tek0516Maybe grab Tybusen and hold it in POTATO, it is their neighbour. :P
01:57.34Tek0516Charles_Murray: any ideas on a possible conference location?
02:15.56DrodoEmpiretest
02:28.50Wormy_STOTek0516:  When you mean jumping, you mean hopping seats or jumping around on the seats?
02:29.16Wormy_STOI also get the image of security chasing the about having only caught two
02:30.39Tek0516Just constantly changing seats, they eventually scattered across the first few rows and kept getting up to talk to each other. I swear one entered and left the theater a dozen times throughout the movie.
02:33.10Tek0516Security and the manager apparently watched the theater a lot more than normal, hoping to catch them in the act.
02:33.31Tek0516Many people complained. One guy yelled at them one time.
02:34.13Tek0516Didn't even enter the theater until the movie started. And continued to enter a couple at a time for several minutes.
02:34.36Wormy_STOThat's so irritating
02:34.56Wormy_STOGosh I hate people like that
02:36.20DrodoEmpiredonor messages on this livestream are sooooo edgy and horrible >.<
02:36.51DrodoEmpireThey range from "hey love the stream, keep it up" to... Honestly its so bad I shouldn't even post
02:37.51Wormy_STOgoodnight
03:06.58DrodoEmpiretest
04:05.25Charles_Murraytest
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06:37.00dino82_hi
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07:12.28dino82_hi
07:12.38Liquid_InkHello
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09:02.55dino82_have to go
09:02.56dino82_bye bye
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11:44.47HachimanHi
11:45.26Monet2Hi
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11:45.35JepardiHi
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11:50.18Monet2Hi
11:50.36XhoHi
11:50.55Monet2router is having issues so I'm confined to mobile atm
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11:51.10Wormy_hii
11:51.35Monet2Hi
11:51.44HachimanHello everyone
11:52.47Monet2Cornyn's been busted lol
11:53.18HachimanOh, how so?
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11:53.38HachimanOh, how so?
11:54.27MonetVirgin came out saying that according to CCTV there were seats on the train he was on
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11:56.20ImperiosHi
11:56.46ImperiosHachiman: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Aichatharna So these guys are... Zazane gods? Demigods? The demonic forms of descended Zazane?
11:56.55Monetas well as the suggestion that he sat in a seat after recordinng himself
11:57.42HachimanImperios: Essentially Zazane gods
11:57.50Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13937879_10153596813237100_3522584182943900204_o.png Meanwhile in the Fantasyverse
11:58.06Hachimanhur
11:58.24ImperiosXho Hachiman Monet drom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sptmcBhEDo Russians trying to make superhero movies
11:59.01MonetHowever I've just realised: I'll be on one of these London-Norrthern trains this weekend
11:59.18XhoImperios: but why
11:59.37ImperiosXho:
11:59.42XhoImperios:
12:00.02XhoAlso I need to make a navbox for Tuuros
12:00.11XhoDunno how to structure this
12:00.19HachimanImperios: That fucking Winter Soldier / Prince of Persia assassin guy
12:00.39Wormy_Gone off Corbyn
12:00.43ImperiosHachiman: He's also called "the Khan"
12:01.12HachimanAlso, the fucking werebear guy with a heavy machine gun
12:01.27HachimanIt could look like an interesting B movie
12:01.43HachimanIt's well produced for a Russian superhero film
12:01.47HachimanOr at least, visually
12:02.18MonetWormy_: I feel this isn't the first time he's stretched the truth
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12:02.47Hachimanhttp://i.imgur.com/q8bOjlI.png?1 Meanwhile, a WIP of what I've been working on
12:03.15Monet2Sparkly
12:03.21ImperiosHachiman: Christmas tree Sylit
12:03.27HachimanFuck off hur
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12:05.34Wormy_<PROTECTED>
12:06.30HachimanI was dubious of Corbyn early on
12:06.37HachimanHe was too good to be true, essentially
12:06.57Wormy_<PROTECTED>
12:07.19Wormy_This train issie to me is the last straw
12:07.36HachimanSo wait, what's the train issue?
12:07.45HachimanI've not heard about this
12:08.15Wormy_Corbyn complains there are no free seats on the train, and is pictured sitting down near the toilet to make a satatement that the trains need nationalising
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12:08.34Wormy_Actually there's footage of him passing free seats
12:08.48MonetYeah
12:08.59HachimanOh
12:08.59Wormy_It appeals to his supporters because it makes him seem pure
12:09.10Wormy_But actually it was a filthy lie
12:09.33Monethaven't seen the footage but couldn't he have had the aisle between him and his wife?
12:09.33Wormy_I might have fallen for it
12:09.50Wormy_There were loads
12:10.14Wormy_Some of the seats were reserved, but you can sit on reserved seats until the person arrives
12:10.37MonetRight
12:10.57Wormy_Thank Virgin Trains for bringing facts to the fold
12:12.26MonetAfter Farage and Trump, I've grown wary of populists
12:12.45Wormy_Facts and figures is what a radical new politics needs, not ideology and personality cultism
12:12.57HachimanAye, especially after Sanders started endorsing Shillary
12:17.43XhoSo
12:17.46XhoTuuros navbox
12:17.48XhoAny suggestions
12:18.07MonetOne of the things I like about the Tories....admittedly...Is they don't try appealing to popular demand. It makes them look like twats no question, but they use that conserved energy to better manage things
12:18.16HachimanHm
12:18.29HachimanI've not worked on a navbox before so I wouldn't know what to suggest
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12:19.20HachimanYou could take a look at the other galaxy navboxes, like the one for Borealis, to get a firm grasp of how to do things
12:20.17Wormy_Well, I feel like the Tories go too far, to mean levels.  People have actually died since disability support has been cut, and they've failed to tackle the rising demand for food banks.
12:20.34XhoWell I know how to make one, it's just a matter of what I could do for a galaxy
12:20.43XhoIt's either the Andromeda format or the Borealis format
12:20.57Wormy_There's been a demand for the government to release figures on that, but they are refusing
12:20.58XhoI'm more tempted to follow the Andromeda format
12:21.09HachimanRight
12:21.14MonetGo for it
12:23.00MonetWormy_: Tories aren't perfect, but I see it as a virtue that you won't see Cameron or May doing something like Corbyn did.
12:23.51Wormy_No, but they push their own Conservative personality into things in different ways
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12:24.10Wormy_No, but they push their own Conservative personality into things in different ways
12:25.04Wormy_What I'm saying his, Corbyn isn't worse than the Tory politicians.  He just neither has anymore integrity and purity as his supporters idealise him and he tries to make himself out as
12:26.33MonetI disagree with nationalising the railways - it means another tax and removes the incentive of competition
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12:26.44Xhoups
12:26.54OluapPlayerbwah
12:26.57OluapPlayerYou're up early
12:27.39Monetmaybe it would be nice for commuters but it would just add to the deficit
12:27.51Wormy_But at least someone like Corbyn is more liukely to protect the NHS from its gradual privatisation
12:28.01XhoHalf day from work
12:28.06Xhotoo efficient yo
12:29.03OluapPlayerstronk
12:29.46Wormy_I don't know enough about his nationalising the railways to be swayed one way or the other.
12:33.01MonetAll he might end up doing is not saving people money
12:34.34Monetpeople who work locally or in the north that most benefits London commuters and tourists
12:36.16Wormy_But given that it's people money, many are happy for their money to go to things like the NHS.  Whether or not they want nationalised rail as well also depends on how much support it gets.  I just hope any future campaign he makes will be based on a thorough analysis and advertised with useful information, not ideological political opinion.  Which I have low optimism about.
12:36.34XhoIt's 28 C outside
12:36.35Xhosend hep
12:36.37Xhohelp even
12:37.59OluapPlayerget hep'd boyo
12:39.17MonetThe NHS is great as it grants peace of mind
12:39.48Monetif trains get nationalised, will buses be next?
12:39.51Wormy_Is nationalised rail purported to stop rising ticket prices?
12:40.27Wormy_Many many many people complain about that; especially those who commute to work and earn only low wages
12:40.35MonetRising ticket prices and overcrowding
12:41.27MonetCorbyn is under the impression nationalisation will bring more trains
12:41.55Wormy_It costs be almost £9 now to get into Nottingham, which is a 45 minute journey.  And the train is often late having only one or two carriages which are crammed.  I don't think my £9 is worth it.
12:42.41Wormy_Singles and returns cost almost the same
12:44.14MonetCosts me £18-20 to get into London in a similar amount of time, but the trains are always good and on time
12:46.52MonetAlthough in my life most of my experiences are with CrossCountry, Virgin, First Great Western and Eurolink
12:47.54Wormy_East Midlands Trains and Virgin
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13:00.27XhoHm
13:00.32XhoI need a name for the Non-Schism Races
13:00.41XhoIt's gonna get tiring calling them 'Non-Schism'
13:01.27OluapPlayerRandom name generator hur
13:01.42Xhoneeds to be english silly
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13:02.44MonetHmm
13:04.08MonetNormatives?
13:04.37XhoWell it needs to be something like 'The Schism' but 'The ???'
13:04.40XhoSo Normatives wouldn't really fit
13:04.54OluapPlayerthe normies
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13:05.17HachimanThe Non-Schism
13:05.20XhoSchism - REEEEEEE
13:05.43XhoThe Schism is actually full of REEEE so it would work
13:15.11Monet2One idea I have for a story is a pioneer expedition
13:18.52Monet2setting up a frontier
13:19.18Xhorite
13:19.26XhoFrontier would work for the name I'm looking for as well
13:19.28Xhogg monet
13:20.31Monet2I r geenius
13:23.28Wormy_Hachiman:  Is this the most annoying woman ever?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvnx4M293oU
13:24.11HachimanAmerican so yes
13:24.52Wormy_I want the bear to break it
13:35.11Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tuuros_Galaxy Added the new navbox
13:35.36HachimanNice
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13:38.57CyrannianHello everyone
13:40.45Wormy_hi
13:46.56OluapPlayer~kick Cyrannian
13:46.56infobotACTION kicks Cyrannian
13:47.08Cyrannian~smash OluapPlayer
13:47.08infobotACTION flings an anvil in OluapPlayer's general direction
13:48.43Monet2Wonder how receptive Tuuros might be to Pax Draconica
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13:49.15MonetBlast
13:51.37Wormy_I think there should be a new kind of vu, then you thought you were asleep but realise you are still awake https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A9j%C3%A0_vu#Related_terms
13:54.03Wormy_"ne pas endormi"
13:55.46OluapPlayerThat's called being lazy hur
13:58.21MonetThat's the odd thing about the brain
13:58.53MonetIt's very capable of mixing the real and unreal
13:59.20XhoI dunno whether Pax Draconica would work; I have a feeling Tuuros would erupt into a hot war if any foreign policies tried to intervene on them
14:00.42MonetI had a thought given how lax it can be
14:01.01OluapPlayerNeonPanda: https://youtu.be/Ic4EHyRm_Tw
14:01.49NeonPandaa thing
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14:04.07Xho"new boss to rage about"
14:04.14DrodoEmpireHi everyone
14:04.23NeonPandahi
14:04.24OluapPlayergit gud
14:04.25OluapPlayerHi
14:04.57MonetXho: okay apart from that lol
14:06.02NeonPandathink he was talking about Dark Souls
14:06.36MonetOh
14:07.35Monetthen again a lot of Xho's aliens do have authority issues
14:08.01Hachiman>authority issues
14:08.42HachimanYou are instilling the alien equivalent of Pax Romanica on an entire collection of galactic cultures
14:08.52HachimanOf course they're not gonna be happy about it hur
14:09.51XhoRomana but yeah
14:10.19MonetEhh adoption is generally voluntary or coerced
14:12.14MonetDraconidophobia was fun back in the day. Irrational, but fun
14:16.59XhoRight what next
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14:26.54MonetI should probably try making a Draconidophobia poster - had this idea of a menacing Draconid silhouette with a red eye squeezing Horehronie in its palm
14:28.58Monetwith some patriotic phrasing underneath
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14:29.27DrodoEmpireThat'd be interesting
14:29.27dino82_hi
14:29.29DrodoEmpireHi
14:29.38MonetHi
14:35.05dino82_howz all doing
14:35.42DrodoEmpireI'm fine, but we'll need to talk once Charles is properly on
14:35.47GhelHi
14:37.56dino82_Oh ok, drastic talks?
14:37.57dino82_Hi ghel!
14:38.39DrodoEmpireNot 'drastic'
14:38.46GhelDrodoEmpire: I've had a go at putting as many of the history+culture notes as I can into a draft, and reorganising the rest, on the super-collab pad.
14:39.03DrodoEmpireOkay, I'll take a look
15:01.43XhoHm what to do now
15:04.47OluapPlayerfinish paegs
15:10.25MonetI had a thought on doing a Rambo run in MGSV tonight
15:10.52Xhowhich paegs tho
15:11.56MonetI considered the whole hog -  running around Afghanistan shirtless wieldiing an LMG
15:12.15NeonPandaI approve
15:13.07dino82_Rambo run?
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15:13.31XhoSylvester Stallone Rambo, not bird Rambo
15:14.12ImpyDroidWhy not both
15:14.52MonetThat would involve wearing the chicken hat
15:14.54XhoSylvester Le Rambo, ultimate saviour of the universe
15:15.48ImpyDroidYeah the name Rambo is probably one of the bigger rudiments of Old SporeWiki
15:16.10ImpyDroidAlong with "Ottzello" and maybe "Cyrannus"
15:16.16ImpyDroidAnd "Radeon"
15:17.30XhoAnd Nvidia
15:19.29ImpyDroidI wish I could rename Radeons into something less... videocardy
15:19.40MonetActually a full hog Rambo run might have to involve me screaming incomprehensible gibberish down the Mic
15:19.54ImpyDroidI actually considered "Deonari"
15:22.28MonetDeonari sounds cool
15:23.51DrodoEmpire^
15:24.29Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Nexul_Tohon - c Trucinex captain
15:26.02ImpyDroidCyrannian: I like how many Trucinex are posed the same way
15:26.10ImpyDroidlooking to the right
15:26.38ImpyDroidOr the left
15:27.26Cyrannianunintentional, though I'll be sure to pose him to the right when I'm updating his character model
15:28.40dino82_nice page!
15:28.45dino82_Nice to see the TRucinex getting more attention :D
15:29.24Cyrannianhttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/fb/Trucinex.png/revision/20111008172429 - They've come a long way
15:30.39Xhokek
15:32.01OluapPlayer"hurhurhur gonna kill all dem capricornians"
15:34.44Cyranniangot to get ready for work, bbl
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15:42.38Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Aichatharna So, me and Oluap decided to work on Zazane stuff
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15:43.35dino82_argh lost hte connection!
15:45.22Xho9.5/10 not tuuros related
15:46.10OluapPlayershove ur score up ur sphicter pls
15:46.11ImpyDroid2Hachiman: Remember what you said about you being a Republican?
15:46.27HachimanI said what
15:46.56ImpyDroid2As in, being against the British monarchy
15:47.12HachimanOh, right
15:47.13HachimanYes
15:47.19XhoStill though good page
15:47.21ImpyDroid2Republican as in "for a republic on the British Isles"
15:48.29dino82_@xho: lol :D
15:48.44ImpyDroid2I have been thinking. Since the UK is diverse and its regions are brought mostly by the monarchy, do you think that its dissolution would separate the country as a whole?
15:48.45dino82_is the plan g oin through with the gladiators?
15:48.55ImpyDroid2Like, separate English Republic, Scottish Republic, etc
15:49.22OluapPlayerDon't kno if you noticed but we're discussing fiction here
15:50.32dino82_@Oluap: Me? About Tuuros?
15:50.49Xhodino82_: Eventually but Tuuros is massively barebones still
15:50.54ImpyDroid2OluapPlayer: There, quoted
15:51.06dino82_ok
15:51.08OluapPlayerNo, I'm talking to Imp
15:51.20ImpyDroid2Also Vaxaal is the Broken God
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15:51.27OluapPlayerAnd don't ping me, ping Hachi
15:51.32OluapPlayerThe Aichatharna are his fiction
15:51.39ImpyDroid2The page was made by you tho
15:52.02ImpyDroid2I already have his attention, we were talking duh
15:52.18OluapPlayerI just wrote what Hachi had planned because him in charge of writing a page = bad
15:52.29Hachiman;-;
15:52.54OluapPlayer>quote is a /pol/ meme
15:53.00OluapPlayerThat also = bad
15:53.32ImpyDroid2Not sure what my guys would say otherwise
15:53.49HachimanWasn't really asking for quotes
15:53.50ImpyDroid2Perhaps some "FALSE GOD FALSE GOD" Radeon rant
15:53.53HachimanJust some acknowledgement
15:54.20ImpyDroid2Well there you have it hur
15:54.22ImpyDroid2Well as I said, fucking Zazane Broken God
15:54.36MonetIt's hard to quote someone or something barely anyone in fiction is aware of
15:54.59HachimanBroken God?
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15:55.31ImpyDroid2SCP Foundation
15:55.50HachimanAh
15:57.12ImpyDroid2I assume what is written in the page is mostly mythology right?
15:57.21HachimanHalf and half
15:57.22OluapPlayerIt's fact
15:57.29ImpyDroid2Rifht
15:57.48HachimanWell, most of it is fact
15:57.54ImpyDroid2Also wait Descension wasn't always... fire-y and darkness-y?
15:58.04ImpyDroid2Now that is interestingly
15:58.07HachimanMost of the unexplained stuff is either myth or just unexplained
15:58.42HachimanAnd yes
15:58.50HachimanDescension was a more neutral force at some point
15:58.56HachimanAnd then bad things happened
15:59.34ImpyDroid2Right so demon forms are Zazane invoking the psychological imprints of their creators
15:59.39ImpyDroid2That is actually cool
16:00.14ImpyDroid2BTW would that mean that, say, Ma'fest's demon form would be draconic as well?
16:00.40HachimanI mean, Aichatharna fragments only exist within Zazane
16:00.48XhoWell I quoted the page
16:01.33HachimanA demon form is not necessarily draconic in nature
16:01.35Hachimanrite
16:01.43XhoBasically Imperios' quote but as said by Angazhar
16:01.44OluapPlayer"a twisted, demonic version of the user" doesn't equal draconic
16:03.04ImpyDroid2My point is, since these things are linked with the Ai-guys
16:03.17ImpyDroid2They should probably all incorporate Ai-guy traits
16:03.24HachimanBut we just said a demon form isn't necessarily draconic
16:03.46ImpyDroid2Right
16:04.05ImpyDroid2I explained the logic that I tried to follow
16:04.36HachimanA demon form is an outward expression of the Descended, not the Aichatharna
16:06.23ImpyDroid2Rite
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16:10.08ImpyDroid2That page is actually full of cool ideas
16:10.11ImpyDroid2I like it
16:10.39ImperiosYou guys actually work REALLY well together; Hachi provides good ideas while OP expresses them very concisely and elegantly
16:11.47OluapPlayerI'd hardly call my writing style elegant
16:11.53OluapPlayerI'm very blunt about providing informatin
16:11.57OluapPlayerinformation even
16:11.59HachimanI'd hardly say my ideas are good
16:12.21Monet2I disagree Hachi
16:12.24OluapPlayerIf they weren't I'd not have wasted my time writing them for you tho]
16:12.52HachimanIf I didn't trust you as a writer, I'd not have let you write for me
16:14.13ImperiosOluapPlayer: "Blunt" can be a good thing
16:14.23ImperiosYour style is not overwrought as say mine or Hachi's
16:14.26OluapPlayerI'm not saying I'm a bad writer, I'm saying I'm short and laconic
16:14.59ImperiosWhat I am saying is, your percentage of useful information to fluff and purple prose is much higher
16:17.54Monet2Looking at Lovecraft's style, as flowering as it is, it seems like he's showing off a bit. I mean he frequently chains multiple adjectives together for instance
16:19.26Monet2that's not necessarily a bad thing but overuse can drag a piece
16:26.00DrodoEmpire^
16:29.06Hachimanhttp://i.imgur.com/htvIj0p.png?1 So, I worked on another thing
16:29.15HachimanThat's Cycklos btw
16:29.27Monet2just an analysis but Loveceaft had a lot of aristocratic pretentions, Providence was the Mecca of the New England elite
16:30.35Monet2The closest America had to an aristocracy
16:32.35Monet2Hachiman: He has a strong angelic grace to him
16:33.37ImperiosThat and he wanted to sound like an old person
16:33.57XhoHachiman: shiny
16:34.04ImperiosHachiman: Christmas tree monk
16:34.10XhoRemind me to never forget a Meshuggah riff again
16:34.17HachimanNot Christmas tree, shut up hur
16:34.25XhoI forgot a riff in Dancers To A Discordant System and I'm punishing myself by re-learning it
16:34.27HachimanXho: Never forget a Meshuggah riff again
16:35.39Monet2he read a lot of the Victorian and Gilded Age classics. He was a man born a century too late and it indeed shows
16:35.48ImperiosDw, just kidding hur
16:35.53ImperiosSorry if I offended you
16:36.16HachimanNah it's cool
16:47.59Wormy_Hachiman:  How did you make the lights?
16:48.17HachimanI used effects that came with Dark Injection
16:48.37HachimanThe Bright Sun Orb specifically
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17:32.09MonetBack
17:32.17MonetAnd so is my internet.
17:34.11HachimanNice
17:35.32MonetSo I might go ahead with Metal Gear Rambo: Phantom Blood Part Five.
17:35.51Hachiman>Phantom Blood
17:35.59HachimanSomebody's heard of JoJo
17:37.08MonetActually I was thinking a portmanteau of Phantom Pain and First Blood.
17:37.55HachimanOh hur
17:38.17MonetOh wait Rambo in Afghanistan is Rambo III.
17:38.40MonetFirst Blood part II is where he goes back to Vietnam.
17:38.58MonetRambo Gear Solid III: Phantom Blood
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17:39.47XhoWormy_: Huh I just discovered a Lifeless Planet
17:39.56XhoLiterally nothing on the surface
17:41.16Wormy_Not found a single one of those yet
17:41.19Wormy_bbl dinner
17:41.42Tek0516Hello
17:56.57dino82_new New Republic Uniform (?)"http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Kalae_SevineLArge.png
17:57.31dino82_and some of the stations in the Gorge are now featured: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Quadrant_Galaxies/Gorge
18:00.01ImperiosThat's quite elegant
18:00.11Tek0516Wormy_ IRL: http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1472052164-20160824.png :P
18:00.20Tek0516Or did you change your program, I forget.
18:00.33dino82_@Imperis: Thanks :D
18:00.40OluapPlayerNice job dino
18:00.40dino82_Was a nice new challenge to make such a uniform
18:00.49dino82_Thanks Oluap :D
18:04.15Wormy_Rocks are great, rocks are a storytime
18:07.50XhoEveryone's complaining about Deus Ex's performance on the desktop now
18:08.00XhoI'm pretty sure everyone's desktops are just getting outdated
18:08.44OluapPlayerDepends whether it's an universal problem or not
18:08.52Wormy_http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/north-korea-kim-jong-un-rio-2016-impersonator-lookalike-trick-athletes-olympics-a7205611.html
18:09.06Wormy_I love how this fooled NK athletes
18:09.07OluapPlayerUser PCs are outdated, or it might be badly optimized
18:10.52XhoProbably a bit of both at this point
18:11.05XhoI don't quite understand how a game can be badly optimised though
18:11.23Wormy_The sea is a terrifying place http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3756569/Three-people-pulled-unconscious-waves-Camber-Sands-rescue-teams-try-desperately-revive-them.html
18:12.21OluapPlayerA game made for consoles but with a wiffed PC port is badly optimized
18:12.26OluapPlayerDark Souls 1 is an example
18:12.43OluapPlayerSo is that one Batman game that caused a massive outrage due to how terrible the PC port was
18:13.42MonetArkham Knight.
18:13.57OluapPlayerThat one
18:14.06OluapPlayerGranted that one is the most extreme example
18:14.21XhoThat bad eh
18:14.56Xho"Even high-end graphics cards such as Nvidia's GeForce GTX 970 were unable to handle the game well, with users reporting frequent frame rate dips and stutters"
18:14.58Xhoholy shit
18:16.15OluapPlayerBad optimization seems to be the case then
18:16.41XhoI was thinking of getting Mankind Divided
18:16.51XhoNo Man's Sky was the nail in the coffin for pre-orders
18:16.57Xhoaint doing that again
18:17.25OluapPlayerGranted it'll probably get patched by either Nvidia or whoever makes Deus Ex, I'm not quite sure
18:17.36XhoImperios: http://www.iflscience.com/space/earthlike-exoplanet-discovered-in-the-nearest-star-system-to-our-own/ Sanctuarium is fucking real m9
18:17.51ImperiosThe Radeons are coming
18:18.09OluapPlayerEvery PC release ends up like this
18:18.16XhoNvidia must love moments like this
18:18.26Xho"oh look badly optimised game                 TIME TO EVOLVE"
18:18.42OluapPlayerThat being said Nvidia is supposed to make preparation patches for games BEFORE their release
18:18.59Xho"TIME TO EVOLVE           AT SOME POINT"
18:19.07XhoThey probably do
18:19.21XhoProbably a business move to release them after the game release
18:19.25OluapPlayerLike, they do most of the time
18:19.30OluapPlayerBut this time it seems they didn't
18:19.56XhoWell I've got South Park: The Stick of Truth instead
18:20.03OluapPlayerI get a new update to my graphics card whenever a big release is about to happen. Dark Souls 3, Tomb Raider, DOOM, all of these had pre-release patches
18:20.07Xhobit of a stretch from Deus Ex granted
18:20.25XhoI want to try DOOM but I have a feeling it's ragequit worthy
18:20.37OluapPlayerStop bein a bich
18:20.50OluapPlayerYou could just download the demo and try that
18:20.55OluapPlayerI did and it was okay
18:21.13OluapPlayerMade my PC shit itself but it was
18:22.18XhoRecommended: 970
18:22.21Xhoyeah i need a better card
18:22.41Xho55 GB space holy moly
18:23.08Tek0516What's 55 GB?
18:23.21XhoDOOM
18:23.41Xholoadsa gig
18:23.42Tek0516Ah
18:23.49XhoI wonder what the biggest hard drive currently going is
18:23.54OluapPlayerDOOM is a VERY demanding game yeah
18:24.10OluapPlayerOnly way I had a stable framerate in the demo was to set everything to Low
18:24.28Xhooh my
18:24.47MonetXho: I was shopping for a 3TB drive at christmas.
18:24.52OluapPlayerGranted my PC is grandpa-tier
18:24.57OluapPlayer>3TB
18:25.03OluapPlayerFucking hell that's a thing?
18:25.05Xho3TB is probably enough for most things going atm
18:25.10XhoI have a 3TB hard drive
18:25.25XhoI have 1.95 TB free
18:25.35OluapPlayerI'm still the kind of person who thinks 1 TB is top-end tech
18:25.41Xhodoi
18:25.47OluapPlayerrite *dois*
18:25.53XhoMy desktop was ridiculously expensive though
18:25.59XhoGood purchase tho
18:26.12Xho£1400 at the time I think, I dunno how much it would be worth now
18:26.46MonetYou want top-notch? I've seen CPUs on sale that are 8-core 4 GHz processors.
18:27.03HachimanHm I might purchase a membership for WoW
18:27.07MonetThey cost a couple of grand, granted.
18:27.19NeonPandaHachiman: Don't
18:27.23Tek0516I have a 1 TB HDD, but I also have a couple TB in external storage.
18:27.32HachimanBut why
18:27.43MonetHAchiman: It will steal your soul.
18:27.52NeonPandabecause, taking it from a friend who's been a WoW player since vanilla, it's the worst its ever been
18:28.00OluapPlayery u want to play World of Metzen
18:28.00NeonPandaand whatever you want from it there's MMOs that do it better
18:28.19Xhohttp://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=c03886335 This is my desktop
18:29.04XhoIt's no longer in production so it's not exactly top of the line anymore
18:29.06OluapPlayerI like the red bits
18:29.27XhoIt's still fast, just not 2016 fast
18:29.47MonetOnly a GTX 680?
18:30.21XhoMine has a 770
18:30.29MonetAh, fair enough.
18:30.39Xhosoon to be 1080 *evil laugh*
18:31.03MonetMy R390 has 3GB onboard memory iirc.
18:31.54MonetThe mouse this thing comes with looks ew.
18:32.27OluapPlayerIs it one of those weird blocky "gamer" mouses?
18:32.47MonetThat's not a gamer mouse.
18:33.22OluapPlayerIf you mean the one from Xho's link, it looks good to me
18:33.57Monet"2 primary buttons, clickable scroll wheel" yeah that's not a gamer mouse.
18:34.06ImperiosNeonPanda: Warlords were terrible yeah
18:34.08MonetGamer mice have more.
18:34.12ImperiosBut Legion seems decent
18:34.26Wormy_I had an assembled desktop http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:IMG_20140103_121435.png
18:34.32Monethttps://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91YmmYMH40L._SL1500_.jpg this is what I use.
18:34.35Wormy_Still seems to work well
18:34.46Xhohttp://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/Infinity_Xtreme_SLI £4384 what
18:34.49ImperiosJokes on you, I have a tiny mouse that does not even fit in my hand
18:34.51OluapPlayerOkat that doesn't look so bad
18:35.03OluapPlayerBut I've seen some truly horrendous gamer mouse designs
18:35.16OluapPlayerWormy_: The hell is that shining thing
18:35.21OluapPlayerIt looks like a tiny helicopter fan
18:35.25Wormy_A clock fan
18:35.32Wormy_Keeps me cool, tells the time
18:35.54MonetXho: It has a ten-core CPU
18:35.54OluapPlayerI was half-close
18:35.56Wormy_I want a cyberpunk decor in my room so that is part of that development
18:36.27Xhohttps://www.overclockers.co.uk/8pack-supernova-intel-core-i7-6950x-4.4ghz-ddr4-extreme-overclocked-pc-fs-001-8p.html Dickwave Elite
18:36.42Xho4 1080s
18:36.46Xhobecause why not
18:37.11Wormy_https://www.amazon.com/Clock-Fan-Floating-Time-Display/dp/B00L98MNJI
18:37.16Monetten-core CPU, liquid cooling, GTX 1080, 480GB SSD card
18:37.22OluapPlayer>£11464,99
18:37.29Wormy_Oops wrong one, but same idea
18:37.38XhoOluapPlayer: get dosh
18:37.40OluapPlayerYou'd waste less by just selling your soul to Satan
18:37.49Wormy_https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AFVDDVG?psc=1
18:37.58XhoIt's the 838mm height that gets me
18:38.10Monet"4 x Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5 Graphics Cards Configured in 3-Way SLI" HOLY SHITBALLS
18:38.51Xhojokes on you it's actually the Nvidia GeForce GTX 4320
18:38.55OluapPlayerI don't even have an appropriate reaction to tha
18:38.56OluapPlayert
18:39.11XhoBasically it will run everything ever
18:39.27XhoThe power consumption must be bullshit though
18:39.31Monet2.8TB worth orth of SSD hard drive space
18:39.55ImpyDroid2o
18:40.27MonetThe only way this thing could be more fancy is if it liquid-cooled with liquid nitrogen rather than water.
18:40.48OluapPlayerThis is probably close to NASA computer-level
18:41.05XhoI don't exactly know why anyone would need a desktop like that
18:41.15XhoA normal high end desktop can run most things
18:41.15OluapPlayerDickwaving
18:41.22OluapPlayerI can't think of any other reason
18:41.37MonetOluapPLayer: NASA's computers are actually surprisingly basic.
18:42.05OluapPlayereverything i know is a lie
18:42.08MonetThough I agree this thing sounds like it's trying to be a supercomputer.
18:42.37OluapPlayerA couple more steps and that PC will grow sapience as well as legs to run around
18:42.37MonetFun fact, NASA still use what was it...It was either WIndows 97 or XP?
18:42.47OluapPlayerOh god no
18:43.13MonetNo joke, government computers use OSs several generations behind everyone else.
18:49.02MonetBut I agree with you on this computer: It's pretty much dickwaving
18:49.13MonetSomething a tenth of that price can run most things.
18:49.31OluapPlayerA tenth of that price could sustain me for a year
18:53.06Tek0516Monet: might have mentioned this before, but speaking of outdated government computers here in Toronto we have entire line of our public transit run by a single Commodore 64. :P
18:54.20MonetTek0516: That thing must be on the verge of tears.
18:55.16OluapPlayerThat's as terrible as it is impressive
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18:55.39The_RandomnessHello
18:56.43Tek0516Monet: Well the entire system is basically the original equipment from the 80s. And it's another decade before the replacement is scheduled to be ready.
18:57.08Tek0516(Yay for city politics)
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18:59.04Tek0516I've seen some of the station equipment. It looks like more like decades old TC sci-fi props than something you'd trust to hold tens of thousands of people dialy.
18:59.13Tek0516*TV
19:02.22OluapPlayerreturn of spoi
19:13.45HachimanFucking
19:13.50HachimanOverwatch players need to sort their shit out
19:14.45HachimanIf I'm healing two people simultaneously I fucking expect them to kill the goddamn fucking MeiCree that's killing them
19:16.32OluapPlayerWelcome to every team game ever
19:18.15OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Vaxal_Myraad here we have Biggest Guy
19:18.53HachimanVaxal?
19:19.10OluapPlayerYou don't get to bring descension
19:20.39HachimanIt's not my descension
19:25.52OluapPlayerWith that I'm done editing Hachi's pages
19:25.55OluapPlayerdo ur own work m8
19:26.39Charles_MuraySo this is now a thing: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Quadrant_Galaxies/Gorge
19:27.00Charles_MurayRambo Nation is building a wall
19:27.39DrodoEmpireA big, beautiful wall
19:27.48Charles_MurayAnd we're not paying for it
19:27.57DrodoEmpireayy
19:30.07dino82_:D
19:31.02ImperiosOluapPlayer: Quoted
19:37.04dino82_have to go
19:37.05dino82_bye bye
19:37.10DrodoEmpireBye
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19:38.40Charles_MurayImperios : http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Quadrant_Galaxies/Gorge dis
19:38.56ImperiosHachiman: The whole Vaxal thing reminded me
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19:39.27ImperiosBack in, I think, 2012 it was suggested that many Zazane had adopted Spodism as their religion following the Andromeda War
19:39.36ImperiosOutside of the Sacrenar that is
19:39.52HachimanI think many Zazane would probably remain atheists or something
19:40.11ImperiosIs that still canon?
19:41.44ImperiosCharles_Bot: *insert Trump meme here*
19:42.23Charles_BotYup
19:43.58HachimanDoubt it
19:53.09ImperiosAlrighty then
20:05.12NeonPandaMonet: with the discovery that ruined buses are now a craftable thing post the DLC that added deathclaw cage matches, I've built a Mad Max fortress at the Starlight Drive-In
20:08.39MonetNiiice
20:09.48NeonPandasix ruined buses around the perimeter which serve as both bunks and mounts for turrets, internal farm plots growing mutfruit, the pond in the middle is full of water purifiers
20:09.58NeonPandaand a truck full of generators
20:16.24DrodoEmpiretest
20:30.50CyrannianHello everyone
20:31.15OluapPlayerreturn of the chicken
20:32.19Cyrannian#rude
20:46.01DrodoEmpiretest
21:06.25Return_of_SpuSo Hideo Kojima is 53 today
21:06.28Return_of_SpuLooks 35
21:09.07OluapPlayerkojimbo
21:11.07Return_of_SpuSo South Park: The Stick of Truth is actually enjoyable
21:13.12Return_of_SpuI mean you take on a horde of Mongolians
21:16.02Return_of_SpuHachiman: So what actually sparked the corruption in the first place
21:16.14Return_of_SpuIf Vaxal was omnipotent and such
21:18.12OluapPlayerWell we have no truly omnipotent beings other than the Xhodocto
21:18.27OluapPlayerAnd the culprits for the corruption are the Five Gods, not Vaxal
21:29.21ImperiosHachiman: I like how both Vaxal and the Five Gods are kind of dicks
21:29.24Return_of_Spusantorakh - see                  this is what happens when you give them free will
21:29.34OluapPlayerNot kind of
21:29.40OluapPlayerThey're all terrible
21:29.48OluapPlayerOr were all terrible since they're all dead now
21:30.27Imperioshttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/bf/Chaos_Shu%27olerthae.png/revision/latest?cb=20160602152848 Also what the actual
21:30.36ImperiosHow come I only noticed the new model now
21:30.47Return_of_Spuno meep 4 u
21:30.57OluapPlayerBecause no one notices my edits unless I post them here
21:31.06OluapPlayerWhich I didn't with the newest Shu'olerthae canon
21:31.47ImperiosThey are no longer cute
21:31.51ImperiosThat's a downer
21:32.02MonetI think I saw.
21:34.45ImperiosThat's just my opinion but I liked when they were small and kind of cute
21:34.46OluapPlayerthe demons actually look demonic now
21:34.53OluapPlayerwhat a conumdrum
21:35.03ImperiosThey appear harmless at first and them boo-yah, they kill everything
21:36.29Monethttps://vimeo.com/178215732 anyone who believes CGI is inferior or "cheap" compared to practical effects doesn't know what it takes.
21:37.07MonetCheap CGI fair do's, but this?
21:42.48ImperiosThere's stuff like Warcraft or Avatar
21:43.11DrodoEmpireCGI's fine, but its waay overused nowadays
21:43.17ImperiosAnd then there are the CGI elements in, say, Batman Begins
21:43.23DrodoEmpireAnd sometimes there's no replacing practical effects
21:43.25ImperiosWhy did they even need to add the CGI nightmare batman
21:43.27DrodoEmpireLike with big battle scenes
21:43.46ImperiosIs there some CGI animator trade union that demands that EVERY blockbuster have some CGI scenes?
21:44.00ImperiosPerhaps there is
21:44.15DrodoEmpire"Waterloo" was released in 1970, very old movie- but its got some of the best battle scenes of any movie imo
21:44.24MonetWell sci fi and CGI is something of a given.
21:44.37DrodoEmpireBecause every single soldier is an actual extra, trained in Napoleonic drill and tactics
21:44.51DrodoEmpireAnd there're literal *thousands* of extras, an entire army of them
21:45.39MonetYeah, thousands of extras that need to be paid and trained.
21:45.46HachimanCGI ruined Berserk
21:46.09DrodoEmpireWell yeah Monet, no shit
21:46.10DrodoEmpire:p
21:46.28DrodoEmpireWaterloo was one of the most expensive movies in history
21:46.38OluapPlayer>watching the anime instead of reading the manga
21:46.41OluapPlayerthis does not FORCES
21:46.52DrodoEmpireBut its still an unbeatable thing imo
21:47.03DrodoEmpireCGI's been great as its made bringing big ideas to the screen cheaper
21:47.13DrodoEmpireMy point's that people get carried away
21:47.42MonetI don't like this battle between CG and practical effects because 1) both are generally used anyway and 2) it's a craft all on its own.
21:48.01DrodoEmpireNo me neither, they're not in competition
21:48.08DrodoEmpireAnd that's not what I'm saying
21:49.25MonetWell as you said, it makes it cheaper to bring bigger ideas to screen. Which is what people want.
21:49.45MonetSpectacle is what draws in the summer blockbuster.
21:50.10DrodoEmpireRight great, but then there's a point where it gets overused and easy to spot
21:50.22MonetAs much as I agree that practical effects have their tacticle advantages, Hollywood's a business.
21:50.23DrodoEmpireWe're at that point
21:50.32DrodoEmpireYeah and isn't that sad
21:50.34DrodoEmpire>.<
21:50.38Charles_MurayThere's also the fact that, well, animators don't often know what they're doing when it comes to animating big battles xD
21:50.42DrodoEmpire^
21:50.44Charles_MurayAnd it's obvious
21:50.50MonetIt's been a business for over 85 years.
21:51.03DrodoEmpireJesus christ movies have no grasp of warfare, especially pre-modern warfare
21:51.17DrodoEmpireI get it, but movies are art, and I'll vote with my wallet
21:51.38MonetThat's fine, everyone has their own tastes
21:52.05DrodoEmpireI find movie tactics in older movies, where they had to use extras for soldiers (and are often in a historical setting), are often so much better
21:52.30DrodoEmpireWaterloo might be unfair to use as it was literally a play-by-play recreation of the battle
21:52.34DrodoEmpireBut even in general
21:52.49MonetHow common was it to use an actual army to film these?
21:53.04DrodoEmpireWaterloo used tens of thousands of Soviet army extras
21:53.12DrodoEmpireWhy does that matter though?
21:53.27MonetIt helped push the realism.
21:54.04DrodoEmpireWhat would a modern soldier know of napoleonic warfare? >.<
21:54.27DrodoEmpireThe extras were actually trained in these tactics- how to march, how to load/fire a musket, how to form square, etc.
21:54.35DrodoEmpireBecause the modern training didn't apply
21:54.36DrodoEmpireAnyway
21:56.00MonetIt sounds like I might be in the minority in that I enjoyed Avatar's visuals.
21:56.24DrodoEmpireIts been a while since I watched it
21:56.33DrodoEmpireVery clearly CG, but it was undeniably impressive
21:56.54The_Randomnessnothing wrong with lots of CGI
21:57.02MonetI like the mountains, the plants, the animals, the hardware...
21:57.18The_RandomnessAnd yeah, Avatar was a very visually impressive movie
21:57.24The_Randomnessbut that's about all it had going for it for me
21:57.26The_Randomness>_>
21:57.33DrodoEmpireThe_Randomness: I disagree, its overused nowadays to the point I can point it out too easily
21:57.47DrodoEmpireI like a more balanced approach, looks better imo
21:58.11MonetI enjoyed the link I gave as I saw Resurgence in cinemas.
21:58.32MonetIt was corny as hell, but so was the original.
21:59.44The_RandomnessI'm a pleb that watches almost no movies, so I can't say much lol
22:00.17DrodoEmpireI don't watch many either and that's the problem >.<
22:01.37MonetI'm going to sound like an idiot here but...I think Resurgence could be...art.
22:01.59Hachimanayy lmao
22:02.06HachimanAll films are art
22:02.36MonetIt's not a masterpiece of cinema like Bridge of Spies but I can tell it's a film that's had a fair amount of thought put into many stages of it.
22:04.16MonetThe mothership, while stupidly massive, was very detailed with a lot of thought into what a generation ship might look like inside.
22:04.29HachimanSame can be said of most scifi movies though
22:04.34MonetIt was fun to see an alternate Earth.
22:04.57HachimanResurgence isn't anything special when you considered what films preceded it
22:06.59MonetIt's a modern-day War of the Worlds. I always latched on to it because it deconstructs how resiliant human civilisation is after an alien attack.
22:07.28HachimanModern day War of the Worlds was done by Steven Spielberg in 2005 and was a wreck
22:07.42ImperiosHachiman: Michael Bay?
22:08.07MonetPartially because the 2005 war of the worlds transplanted while Indpendence Day adapted.
22:08.19HachimanAll films are art, unless you are producing them with the intent of money, in which case they are a product
22:08.25MonetMost scifi films IIRC when the alien menace is defeated everyone rebuilds and life mostly returns to normal.
22:08.53Tek0516When it comes to CGI vs practical I think the quality of the design is far more important than the choice of system. CGI has given us some complex visuals that practical would struggle to produce, and in other cases practical gives you a more realistic feel that CGI just can't match yet.
22:09.44DrodoEmpireYeah that's fair
22:09.44MonetID and it's sequel ended with "Well we defeated the aliens, they left a huge mess and body toll behind that...crap what if they come back!?"
22:11.13MonetResurgence was kind of like district Nine in that it showed how a post-alien-arrival Earth might develop.
22:12.18Hachiman>comparing a Summer flick to District 9
22:12.21HachimanMonet's lost the plot
22:12.42Monet*kind of*
22:13.40MonetYou just said all films are art and then you tell me I can't compare certain films to each other?
22:14.50MonetBringing back an entire cast to make a sequel, I admit, is nothing new. Less so bringing back a cast for a sequel for a film released 20 years ago is probably something else.
22:15.33MonetAnd if the cast is passionate, why shoulda film's merit be discarded because "It's a blockbuster"
22:15.44MonetOr "It's a summer flick"
22:17.09MonetLooking at behind-the-scenes footage I noticed something about Suicide Squad that media also picked out: The cast got themselves matching tattoos.
22:17.38The_RandomnessI agree with Monet here
22:18.23HachimanI was partially joking
22:18.38HachimanAnd I haven't seen Resurgence so I cannot make a serious comment on its quality
22:21.49MonetI wouldn't put it up for an academy award save for best VFX and best sound design, but I'd watch it again.
22:23.06MonetI might be slightly biased because the original ID was muh childhood. Every time I watch it or the sequel I feel like playing Xcom.
22:24.59MonetActualyl regarding Blonkamp's films someone help me out
22:25.35MonetDistrict 9 discussed Apartheid, Elysium had heavy Apartheid tones, were they also present in Chappie?
22:25.55Tek0516I like the original better just thematically. It's modern humans using (then) modern tech to overcome the aliens compared to humans using alien tech to fight alien tech as part of an intergalactic war. (Poorly phrased but you probably get the idea)
22:26.28Tek0516Monet: I can't remember actually. I think so?
22:28.12DrodoEmpireNothing beats Musical Version of War of the Worlds when it comes to alien invasion stories <.<
22:28.18DrodoEmpire*the Musical version
22:28.32DrodoEmpireThe 1978 one, not the new one >.>
22:31.46MonetI think the story in general might be in need of some rewrites.
22:32.20MonetThe idea of germs killing the aliens just...doesn't work anymore. It sounds too silly.
22:32.52DrodoEmpireI was half joking, though I do love the album
22:33.07DrodoEmpireIt was a lazy resolution then and it is now I figure
22:33.18DrodoEmpireAnd now we know its probably impossible
22:34.35OluapPlayerWorks against the quarians
22:36.01ImperiosI've actually been thinking, most ME races embody some classic science fiction u
22:36.05Imperiosscience fiction work
22:36.11MonetQuarians wear hazard suits, WotW aliens strut about practically naked.
22:37.27ImperiosTurians are like the Federation from Starship Troopers, asari are Star Trek-y enlightened explorers, salarians are Greys, krogans embody the ideals of Dune, quarians are Battlestar Galactica
22:37.29MonetApparently Martians are so far ahead of us they've rendered trousers obsolete.
22:38.33ImperiosYou could also say that Reapers are Warhammer 40k I suppose
22:38.49MonetI think the Asari are supposed to be like Orions.
22:39.06OluapPlayerReapers are Cthulhu
22:40.04MonetA race of sexy human-looking alien women that exist for men to read alien porn without being considered "weird" by their peers.
22:45.16HachimanIsn't that most of my fiction?
22:45.43OluapPlayerYour only race of sexy aliens is co-owned by me
22:45.49MonetAsari are a little more human.
22:46.21MonetRovegar aren't so sexy due to being 3m tall and having gigantic heads.
22:46.49OluapPlayerOnly the oldest ones are that big
22:47.09OluapPlayerThe average Rovegar is roughly 2m tall
22:47.31MonetOkay that's fairer
22:47.42HachimanYou know that Kalcedia is 3m+ at default right
22:48.01OluapPlayerKalcedia is a shapeshifter
22:48.06HachimanI mean that's true
22:48.18Monet"what's your type" "whatever you want me to be"
22:48.48OluapPlayerAbout them having big heads
22:48.51OluapPlayerI guess that's true
22:48.53HachimanKalcedia's probably seen some shit while on the job
22:49.04OluapPlayerKalcedia - sometimes literally
22:49.11DrodoEmpireayy lmao
22:50.18OluapPlayerLooking back the Rovegar were probably not a good addition
22:50.23OluapPlayerBut it's a bit too late to change that
22:50.59DrodoEmpireI figure the Drodo are far more on the "cute" spectrum then anything else, perhaps they're a bit hard to take seriously at times >.<
22:51.41MonetOluapPlayer: Some bits yeah, others you might be able ot get away with retcon.
22:52.04OluapPlayerI'm not willing to retcon what currently exists
22:52.22MonetAlright fair enough.
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22:53.33DrodoEmpireHey
22:53.34Wortmyhello
22:54.09Wortmywoops
22:54.44Tek0516Speaking of name typos, I'm surprised Charles_Muray hasn't noticed yet. :P
22:54.53HachimanSo, apparently another Earthlike planet has been found, this time in Proxima Centauri or something
22:55.05Tek0516It has.
22:55.06WortmySo close, yet so far
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22:55.43Tek0516Apparently it's tidally locked though, so that may be a problem.
22:55.47WortmyI hope something like Project Starshit will reach it
22:55.54HachimanStarshit
22:55.56WortmyStarshot,
22:55.57HachimanWhat
22:55.59Tek0516Lol
22:56.41Wortmydis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakthrough_Starshot
22:58.12ImpyDroidMonet Hachiman: Would it make sense for Radeons to have any concept of nobility? Not as a society-defining factor, as that would be their caste system, but as a minor thing in their culture
22:58.26HachimanSre
22:58.28HachimanSure
22:58.46ImpyDroidLike in, say, Sweden or the UK
22:58.58ImpyDroidActually I have no idea how important nobility is in the UK
22:59.21ImpyDroidSure as in "could go either way" or "that is positively a good idea"
23:01.02MonetNobility is something of an artefact in the modern UK. One can be granted land and titles by the Queen, and can own a manor.
23:01.36MonetBut other than a seat in the House of Lords, there aren't that many perks compared to simply being wealthy.
23:06.35WortmyI think there are plenty of wealthy britons richer and more powerful than the Royals
23:07.44WortmyAlthough they're all connected into somew lizard organisation
23:10.05MonetProbably.
23:10.17MonetThe royals have a net worth of about...450mil?
23:10.56MonetAlthough the royals probably maintain the largest number of stately homes.
23:13.30WortmyLast I read Buckingham Palace was getting a bit shabby and needs some refurbishing that will be very expensive for them
23:13.51WortmyYeah they don't even make this list by far https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_by_net_worth
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23:18.03MonetHi
23:18.59MonetWormy_: Yeah. But that doesn't mean their not successful
23:20.04MonetI've learned that when discussing if they are, wealthy people talk more about their income vs. expenditures.
23:21.15MonetFor instance A millionaire who earns 5 million a year but spends 4.5 million a year in taxes, food, property maintenance and staff salaries is considered impoverished by his peers.
23:24.09Wortmytrue, it often winds up relative
23:26.35MonetRelative value is often more reliabe than raw numbers.
23:28.40WortmyI think this guy could be more powerful than the Royals, born in Swittzerland but to British parents and indentifies as such https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aga_Khan_IV
23:28.56Wortmyidentifies
23:31.04MonetIt also depends on his connections
23:32.56WortmyNo geographical royalty, but he he's imam to 25 million Nizari Ismailis
23:37.47WortmyHe seems to meld both “Aga Khan” by the shah of Persia and "His Heighness" by the Queen
23:37.51MonetThat's quite a few followers, though they say it's often who you know that gets you ahead.
23:38.21WortmyYeah I'm convinced this guy is connected to royalty across the world
23:38.52Wortmy"His Highness the Aga Khan" is the proper title of him
23:40.58Wortmynetworth estimated by 800 million to even 3 billion by some sources
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23:56.51WortmyMonet, Hachiman:  I find this quite odd, probably riptides.  But some people said they witnessed sharks or Portuguese man of war http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-37178643
23:57.17WortmyAlso some of victims were Chinese tourists, I hear
23:57.22Tek0516gah. tripped on the cable and busted the plug on my good headphones. >.<
23:57.28The_Randomnessrip
23:57.34DrodoEmpireJeez....
23:57.35DrodoEmpireAlso darn >.<
23:57.56Tek0516Oh my
23:58.25HachimanI reckon they died of shock
23:58.47DrodoEmpireWhat sorta headphones were they?
23:58.48DrodoEmpireI got a pretty nice pair of Razer headphones, though I've owned them for a while now and they show that fact a bit

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