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00:14.17Quark8Hello.
00:15.24ZF101Gotta go everyone. cya all later.
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01:42.04Tek0516Usain Bolt just got the "Double Sprint" (100m and 200m) golds for the third time in a row.
01:44.40DrodoEmpireOh wow
01:45.46Tek0516The Canadian got Silver in the 200m race and Brozne in the 100m race as well. :D
01:45.57DrodoEmpireyey
01:58.44DrodoEmpiretest
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02:54.38Tek0516Hello Charles_Bot
02:55.01Charles_BotHey
02:55.30DrodoEmpireHi
02:56.02Tek0516Charles_Bot: You wouldn't happen to remember when this took place, do you? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki%3AFiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#Roreinian_Insurgency_Escalates:_Foreign_Legion_Gases_Civilians
02:56.42Tek0516Between 2802-2806 obviously, but any idea on a specific date for it?
02:57.46Charles_BotWell, we could go with 2805?
03:03.43Tek0516Charles_Murray: Also, any comments or suggestions on the pre-Roreinian civil war sequence of events? https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/hxRuDapl/
03:06.57Charles_BotNot much without more info, though civil wars usually begin roughly in the same way that regular wars do: with a breakdown of trust and relations between two factions, escalating to war
03:07.07Charles_BotTek0516
03:08.23Tek0516Hang on, should probably have just given you the first draft of the Civil War prologue that I wrote. :P
03:09.40Tek0516Here, this is probably more descriptive. xD https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/JXLQAjDk
03:11.07Charles_BotFrench control?
03:12.07Tek0516Metaphorical, the decline of the classical French dominance over humanity during the GXS era.
03:12.58Charles_BotUnderstood. Seems good to me. You have the coalition around the Vice President, and then the coalition against him. Who leads the opposition?
03:13.16Tek0516changing that to French influence might be a little more accurate. Like I said it's a first draft and a little rough.
03:14.02Charles_Murray"end of the hegemony of the French Republic" might be more specific
03:14.28Charles_MurrayTek0516 : Oh, not sure if you were around for this - http://pastebin.com/VNsLEBbq
03:14.39Tek0516Yes, I saw that.
03:17.04DrodoEmpirehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqKH2LVVYAAn5Oj.jpg
03:22.34Tek0516Charles_Bot: I don't believe I specified it yet, but the leaders of the opposition are a few major leaders from the inner sectors. Not sure on which exactly, but some combination of the six major planets' governors would lead it.
03:24.03Charles_BotCould the civil war result from a failed coup?
03:24.30Tek0516Most likely the sector governors of Santiago, Mateusia, and Vermelho Novo, as well as the planetary governor of Vega would be the leaders of the opposition.
03:27.48Tek0516http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AXonexian_Golden_Age_Timeline#2811 I explain the build-up to the full war being an escalation of "reprogramming" (effectively an "assassination" in the eyes of the clones) attempts against the opposition leaders. The prologue doesn't cover that part yet.
03:30.07Tek0516I'll probably elaborate more on the underlying pre-war tensions in the second draft.
03:36.15Charles_MurrayThat's a pretty cool idea
03:36.27Charles_MurrayThe thing that could actually set off the civil war, though, is an attempted coup
03:36.55Charles_MurrayOr successful coup which doesn't capture or fully nullify the vice-president
03:49.11Charles_Murraytest
03:49.54Tek0516Charles_Murray: pass
03:55.20Tek0516Charles_Murray: Well technically at the moment the final trigger incident is a coup in Irenda Sector. I might retcon some order of events, but the main fighting presently starts with a counterattack by Loyalist forces after the coup.
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10:01.21Spluff5Does anyone know of some good stuff written about negative mass and how empires employ/obtain it?
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10:16.50NeonPandahi all
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11:40.24OluapPlayerhi
11:51.33ImperiosHiya
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12:12.25RagingDevilIs Xho here?
12:13.22Monetno
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12:16.39Raging...
12:16.42Ragingwtf?
12:22.07OluapPlayerWeird kid
12:31.59ImperiosMaybe it was R17?
12:32.23Imperioshttp://en.utrace.de/ip-address/74.127.160.19 Oh wait no
12:32.26Imperioshe's from... Minnesota
12:34.46OluapPlayerI suppose someone with "raging" in their name could pass as R17
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12:50.35HachimanHi
12:51.51Monethi
12:54.19OluapPlayerpoke
12:55.17HachimanSo my sister is apparently supposed to go into labour today
12:55.29HachimanAnd my stepdad has a hospital appointment later for his back
12:56.36OluapPlayeru gonna be an uncle
12:56.45HachimanI'm already an uncle hur
12:56.49HachimanTo two kids already
12:57.16OluapPlayeru gonna be an uncle x3
12:58.13MonetWill you be spending tonight in the hospital then?
12:59.12HachimanNah, I'll be spending it at home
12:59.28HachimanI have to look after my sister's other kids since they're staying here
13:15.55NeonPandaMonet: random PuGS in GTA V have the worst fashion sense I've ever seen
13:16.19MonetOoh gimme some highlights.
13:17.18NeonPandawool sweater and bright orange short-shorts is the current... winner?
13:17.48MonetOkay that tops any of my experiences.
13:19.15MonetI knew one girl who wore a mock gold t-shirt.
13:21.07NeonPandathere was a VIP escort mission going on in the area near where I was shopping, I said ahead of time "Hey, just doing some shopping, not going after you so don't shoot me down ok?" just casually walking and everything,
13:21.34NeonPandaasshole in the back of a jeep with a minigun kills me, next thing I know his own CEO plants a sticky bomb on the car and blows them both up, sends me a nice curt apology
13:21.59MonetCool
13:22.34MonetI've told this story but I remember going shopping one time, when I was done this wanker stabs me to death.
13:22.47MonetIn the store
13:22.53NeonPandawe met up later for drinks, turned out we have a similar taste in 1950's mafia getups
13:25.36MonetAny hacker trouble?
13:26.53MonetThe servers are much cleaner than they used to be I have to say...save for the beggars who spring up asking for free money.
13:30.01NeonPandaI haven't had any, though I haven't played too much public (been mostly playing with friends)
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13:30.10GhelaeHello.
13:34.36OluapPlayerHi
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13:48.54ImperiosHachiman: Are they annoying?
13:49.01HachimanNot really
13:56.01HachimanImperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Goldhawk_Chronicles#Heralds
14:00.06ImperiosI'll take a lok now
14:05.43GhelaeMore super-collab stuff: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Prasandadr
14:08.23Imperios>,the Black Orcs of the Western Forests were known for their affinity with law
14:08.31ImperiosI literally imagined orcs in lawyer suits
14:08.36Hachimanhur
14:08.50ImperiosMY STUFF IS MENTIONED
14:08.58ImperiosMY EGO IS VALIDATED
14:09.00OluapPlayerstoof
14:09.07Imperiosexplodes in a burst of narcissist self-love
14:10.56ImperiosAlso ooooh
14:11.01ImperiosImportant characters are set up
14:11.19ImperiosOluapPlayer: I kind of imagine Tibias speaking with a Celtic accent now
14:11.22ImperiosScottish or Irish, not sure
14:11.24Imperiosor Welsh
14:11.45Wormy_Currently making some terrain maps for Prasandadr
14:11.50OluapPlayerladdeh
14:12.23ImperiosHachiman: Khadya seems quite mature for her age
14:12.35Imperiosat the time that is
14:13.10HachimanOrcs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
14:13.48OluapPlayerTibias - more like x.x lmao
14:16.44HachimanSo, I shall say now, Goldhawks is coming to an end soon
14:17.25HachimanI know it's not my best or favourite story but it was an exercise in setting stuff up
14:17.38HachimanAnd showing off stuff that neither me or Oluap had much of a chance to use
14:17.56OluapPlayerWhat don't you like about?
14:18.00OluapPlayerabout it*]
14:19.27HachimanEh I just feel it's not very coherent
14:41.19ImperiosHachiman: It is actually a bit weird that Khadya knows the term "cremate" at such a young age
14:41.30ImperiosI would kind of expect her to say "we burn our dead" or something, not "cremate"
14:43.21HachimanEh, I've not written kids before
14:44.12MonetHow old are your nieces/nephews?
14:44.36HachimanNephew's about 7, niece is 6 iirc
14:45.20HachimanKhadya is intended to be around 10 - 12 in that section so
14:45.23MonetRight. Was going to say you've doen young kids before
14:47.16MonetFancy words like "cremate" are usually rare.
14:47.24Monetat that age.
14:47.41HachimanEh, my nephew knows how to say words like that and what they mean
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14:48.44MonetDepends how he's using it.
14:50.39MonetAt his age (I'm not a parent so my only sources are second-hand), fancy words are used to impress.
14:50.47HachimanYeah
14:51.16HachimanHe considers me to be the smartest person he knows for some reason even though I just tell him irrelevant trivia about animals and astronomy a lot of the time
14:51.22HachimanSo he tries to be fancy around me
14:52.36MonetThat random trivia is why he thinks you're the smartest person he knows.
14:56.37MonetHe's still at that age where knowledge and intelligence are thought to be interchangeable.
14:59.57MonetSounds like you're an inspiration to him.
15:00.19HachimanMust be
15:00.26HachimanHopefully he doesn't turn out like me
15:01.57MonetIf he admires you, it makes things easier to help in raising him right.
15:02.12HachimanMainly because I annoy my family also with random trivia pieces and he ends up trying to do the same with his family at home
15:04.00MonetI used to be the same. Probably because my dad is a scientist.
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15:04.20MonetHi
15:04.36DrodoEmpireHi everyone
15:04.41DrodoEmpireHey Monet
15:06.10Monet<PROTECTED>
15:06.42Monet<PROTECTED>
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15:25.10Wormy_DrodoEmpire, Charles_Murray:  We've finished the geology and geography section.  The "land use" and "natural resources" sections might be useful for history and politics http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Prasandadr
15:25.49Wormy_I'm going to make nicer images over the next couple of days
15:25.52DrodoEmpireOkay thanks
15:26.17Hachiman"what a complacent, self-assured, egocentric jackass I was in those days! . . . I can the better understand the inert blindness and defiant ignorance of the reactionaries from having been one of them. I know how smugly ignorant I was. . . . It's hard to have done all one's growing up since 33—but that's a damn sight better than not growing up at all." - HPL to C. L. Moore, 1937
15:26.28Wormy_Oh, "land use" has bee changed to "Recent"
15:26.53HachimanSo it turns out that Lovecraft, in his later life, actually started to abandon his preconceived ideas about society and pro-Anglocentric views
16:03.21MonetInteresting. Didn't he have a rather short life though?
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16:06.10HachimanYeah, he died in his mid-40s
16:06.58HachimanIf only he had lived another 20 or so years and he might have been recognised as a far better person and have lived to see himself be considered an inspirational authot
16:06.58Hachimanauthor*
16:11.21MonetMaybe.
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16:12.14MonetHi
16:12.18MonetHachiman: But the conditions that made him unhealthy may have also made him as arrogant and judgemental as he was.
16:12.31MonetHe was not a healthy child.
16:12.43Hachimanspunk
16:13.40Tek0516He also missed WWII. That could have changed some opinions.
16:13.45Xhomeow
16:13.47XhoHachiman: hb
16:13.55Hachimanthx
16:14.40OluapPlayerspu
16:15.04Xhou
16:15.25XhoTempted to do a ZBrush of something
16:17.34MonetAnother alien?
16:18.45XhoPossibly
16:18.52XhoTempted to do a demon of some sort as well
16:19.49Monet"Draconis head" was my first thought - I'd try one myself but I'm working.
16:20.03MonetOne of the 21 demons perhaps?
16:20.36XhoHm maybe
16:21.46Xhohttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/79/Alsium-Ali2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20160327225748 This might present a challenge
16:21.59XhoI'd only do a bust of it
16:22.02Xhocba whole body
16:22.23MonetWhole body will take ages.
16:22.24OluapPlayerI don't remember that model
16:23.02XhoI never showed it to anyone
16:35.36HachimanXho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Goldhawk_Chronicles#Wrath_of_the_White_Bull and the section after that
16:35.42HachimanAlso nice ayy lmao
16:36.19XhoI'll read it later
17:03.11XhoGoing well so far
17:04.22XhoFace is almost done
17:04.43DrodoEmpireSo as it would turn out, in the early modern period the most effective way to fire a wheellock pistol was to hold it at an angle, almost 'gangsta-style'
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17:05.25DrodoEmpireGranted, it was at *quite* an extreme angle
17:06.08DrodoEmpireHi
17:06.39MonetHi
17:18.49XhoMonet: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/de/SamutangarHead.png/revision/latest?cb=20160819171817 That's the head so far
17:19.19MonetQuite stern
17:21.15HachimanJesus
17:22.10MonetYou sculpt fast
17:27.01XhoI suppose
17:28.47MonetI'd say more but I've just started a break.
17:41.27MonetCompletely forgot how invigorating a cup of tea can be.
17:42.03DrodoEmpirelol
17:43.45DrodoEmpirehttps://i.gyazo.com/d3914f9d586a2c6cbf52bb5d7d4df28b.png yey
17:44.09DrodoEmpireDunno what they mean by "livable", but okay
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17:49.46ImperiosHi
17:49.55ImperiosHachiman OluapPlayer: http://risovach.ru/upload/2014/01/mem/reptiloidy_41288422_orig_.jpeg Cyroslavia
17:50.27OluapPlayerCykannus galaxy
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18:24.57dino82_hi
18:27.39Tek0516~test
18:27.40infobotit has been said that test is not funny
18:33.48DrodoEmpireHi
18:36.52Tek0516Internet in the area (wi-fi and data) went to hell suddenly. :/
18:48.03ImperiosMonet Technobltierator: Looks like I won't be able to RP today, tomorrow?
18:58.53MonetMaybe
19:06.08Xhohttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/9d/SamutangarHead2.png/revision/latest?cb=20160819190545 Done a bit of texturing and painting on it
19:06.12XhoAs well as adding teeth
19:07.44OluapPlayerFearsome
19:10.02MonetI like the iron look and the way the cheek-lines flow into the mouth.
19:10.43XhoThe holes in the forehead are for horns although I'll do those at a later date
19:24.56ImperiosXho: IT's like an Asian Gray
19:25.06Xho?
19:25.18ImperiosTHe alien guy I mean
19:33.42MonetWormy_: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/gamescom
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19:55.27DrodoEmpire_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#BREAKING:_Former_Drodo_Premier_Fiihar_Jivirik_III_Killed_in_Duel - First time I killed off a semi-important character
19:57.18OluapPlayerrips in bits
19:57.28DrodoEmpire_ayy lmao
19:57.42ImperiosDrodoEmpire_: You're on the Oluap Side now
19:57.49DrodoEmpire_Hm?
19:59.22ImperiosOluap likes to kill dem chracters
19:59.25ImperiosAs he can confirm
19:59.26ImperiosAlso
19:59.30DrodoEmpire_Ahh
19:59.38ImperiosWhen I first saw the link, that's what I imagined https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHMrgwAuJ_U
19:59.54DrodoEmpire_ololol
19:59.59Wormy_Monet: *watches it*
20:00.04OluapPlayerI only like killing villains
20:00.38DrodoEmpire_Imperios: Yeah Fiihar had since been exiled from the Empire- he lived quietly in the DI >.<
20:00.58OluapPlayernow he's quiet forever
20:01.51DrodoEmpire_olol
20:01.52Wormy_Monet:  If Infinity had ever got off the ground, it would have been Space engine, NMS and Star Citizen in one.  But it was too big and they've cut down their focus
20:02.04DrodoEmpire_Yeah I noticed that recently Wormy
20:02.13DrodoEmpire_I recall it wanted to be like another Elite: Dangerous
20:02.47Wormy_Even when I had discovered it, it had been years and years in development
20:03.39MonetChris Roberts can do what he is doing because of his experience with Wing Commander.
20:07.15XhoTechnobliterator: https://soundcloud.com/turkeychickensandwich/seven-eight Once again got bored
20:07.48Technobliteratoroh that's really good
20:07.53TechnobliteratorThat sounds like a good intro for a song
20:08.38TechnobliteratorI imagine it immediately dropping a few layers, going quieter, and vocals coming in just where it ends
20:08.48XhoHm maybe
20:09.02Xho7/8 is a fun time signature to djent in
20:09.04OluapPlayerdumba
20:09.10Technobliteratorya dad
20:13.15Wormy_Monet:  I never actually paid much attention...
20:13.20Wormy_to this game until now
20:13.37MonetI remember hearing about it about 3 years ago.
20:13.45OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: Did you come back from your trip yet?
20:13.54Technobliteratoryup
20:14.16Wormy_Loving the immersion, graphics, level design, camera movements
20:14.23OluapPlayerDo Debug Squid Bot stuff then pls
20:15.31Technobliteratorshall get to it soon
20:15.52MonetWormy_: There are *loads* of tiny mechanical features to every ship
20:16.29Wormy_I think the crowd have been supplied a lot of booze
20:16.35MonetTurning valves, service hatches, fully-articulated landing gear, articulated wings, aileron flaps, you name it.
20:16.56Wormy_cool, yeah
20:19.22MonetI might invest
20:20.02MonetNo wonder this thing might be 100GB
20:21.28OluapPlayer>100GB
20:21.29OluapPlayerWhat the fuck
20:22.03XhoOluapPlayer: https://soundcloud.com/elliothardman/what-is-doot
20:23.03OluapPlayerXho: Legit fantastic
20:23.12OluapPlayerAlso reminds me I wanted to link you this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m33KibYiCY4
20:23.53Xhobut why
20:24.21OluapPlayerbattle bob was a mistake
20:25.09MonetOluapPlayer: http://www.polygon.com/2015/3/12/8198615/star-citizens-client-will-be-a-100gb-download
20:26.15OluapPlayer>each of these assets are at times 200mb, this leads to 2-6 GB patches, and if we end up doing a file type re-factor and have to re-download 30-40 per cent of the assets on the hard-drive, then the patch will be 14-20 GB.
20:26.19OluapPlayerWhat the fuck is this game
20:26.31OluapPlayerYou're gonna need a HD dedicated just to it
20:26.48OluapPlayerfor, even
20:27.20TechnobliteratorUh
20:27.27TechnobliteratorI don't know why anyone would download a game that big ._.
20:28.08OluapPlayerXho: >ear rape in the end
20:28.12OluapPlayerthis kills the interest
20:28.22XhoNever got that far lul
20:28.45OluapPlayerIt went from 10/10 to the TRASH in one swift swoop
20:28.48MonetTechnobliterator: I have good internet.
20:29.19OluapPlayerHaving good internet isn't the issue here. 100 GB is a tenth of my hard drive
20:29.54MonetThe GB size reflects the ambition of the game
20:30.43MonetTBF, five years ago a game larger than 20GB was considered huge.
20:30.54Xho100 GB is still pretty big tho
20:31.07OluapPlayerThat's bigger than any game ever mad
20:31.08OluapPlayere
20:31.17XhoPerhaps if No Man's Sky was 100 GB it might have had enough content to have lived up to the hypetrain
20:32.34Wormy_Monet:  Getting uncanny valley off the face animation
20:35.07Xhohttps://soundcloud.com/mrmagoffin/never-gonna-slam-your-jam Good contender for Santorakh's theme
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20:35.57XhoOluapPlayer: Volim's bedtime song
20:36.06OluapPlayerVolim - awful
20:38.02Spluff5Does anyone know of any good stuff anyone has written on the nature of negative mass? Like, how they get it, various applications...
20:39.37Xhoeat it and you lose weight
20:39.47OluapPlayerdur
20:48.11MonetWormy_: I agree that guy's animation seems a little...off
20:48.32Wormy_I'm sure its a work in progress
20:49.02DrodoEmpire_Technobliterator: Able to RP today?
20:49.20TechnobliteratorNot today, but I actually might be able to in two days
20:49.26TechnobliteratorI have a few things to take care of first
20:49.26DrodoEmpire_kk
20:50.00Wormy_Disappointed I can't see floating globules of blood
20:50.29Wormy_But many players wouldn't like seeing blood
20:50.41MonetMaybe these guys died bloodlessly?
20:50.47Wormy_I once made a Spore adventure which had blood and it got panned
20:52.15Xhorekt 7+ only
20:52.20MonetThis is definitely a game made to play with friends.
20:53.57OluapPlayerRIP blood in Spore
20:54.49Wormy_Think I even got criticised for this http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/3/39/Spore_2011-05-31_01-11-52.png/revision/latest?cb=20110531001919
20:55.20Wormy_^They probably didn't even do much wrong
20:55.29OluapPlayerThat's really tame compared to today's wikiverse
20:55.30Wormy_Other citizens just walk by
20:55.55Wormy_Indeed
20:56.38Xhoneeds more samutangar heads
20:57.01OluapPlayerget to work den
20:57.27Xhohttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/9d/SamutangarHead2.png/revision/latest?cb=20160819190545 dun
21:01.51MonetSavage
21:02.20MonetI am reminded a little of the Mouth of Sauron.
21:03.20MonetPlayer honesteads in Star Citizen? Yes please.
21:05.58Wormy_I really love how everything has a dynamic impact on player
21:06.10Wormy_Pickup heavy items - you can drop them if not careful
21:07.02Wormy_Getting medical supplies out to an outpost - landscape acts as obstacle etc.
21:08.04Wormy_Lol their site's store went down within a minute of advertising it from visitor overload
21:11.55MonetLol
21:12.40Monet"everyone check out the store" one minute later "Everyone stop going to the store our server is overheating!"
21:14.18Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/0lKwW
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21:19.28Spluff5Hi Drodo
21:19.56Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/aFhlBHy
21:20.08DrodoEmpireHi
21:21.00Spluff5-_-
21:21.23Spluff5I've finally started my technology page
21:22.37Wormy_"No Man's Sky: You have a weapon but nothing to shoot it at" http://imgur.com/gallery/xVCRK
21:24.55Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13937863_1272789619411579_8970476364418930667_o.jpg
21:26.11MonetWormy_: All painfully true
21:26.58Monet"Alein Isolation: You have a weapon, the alien has godmode" I've seen that bastard rip through survivors, wh ohave bigger guns than you.
21:27.21Wormy_lol
21:28.50MonetScariest part about the Alien in that game? it LEARNS
21:29.37MonetI swear halfway before I stopped playing it could tell that I like hiding in lockers. It never found me in them, but it always moved close.
21:31.15MonetIt would start skirting near the lockers henever it patrolled a barracks.
21:32.11Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/14054153_1036286656486293_1916472622431057423_n.jpg?oh=65a39b160c95e28c2c15afdd2c5ced38&oe=581399C6 "Ah yes. The Australian version of 'To Kill a Mockingbird'."
21:33.12MonetWeirdly the book only mentions mockingbirds once.
21:33.15GhelawaySpluff5: Negative mass is on the hyperspace technology page. As a general rule, we'd want to link our FTL-related stuff to hyperspace so as to avoid it leading to easy time travel, and since we have FTL warp drives, that's what we do for exotic matter.
21:33.21Wormy_doge http://imgur.com/gallery/Bdv9z
21:33.47MonetLike, this thing is a brick and there's only 1 or two pages that give any reference or hint to the title.
21:34.09DrodoEmpireAlso- you have to be *super dumb* to jump and gun with a rifle in CS:GO >.<
21:34.26DrodoEmpireReferring to that picture
21:34.42DrodoEmpireSMGs though you're good <.,
21:34.44DrodoEmpire*<.<
21:35.14DrodoEmpireJumping around a corner, guns blazing is actually a good tactic on some maps to get rid of point-blank enemies
21:35.25OluapPlayercrouch jump yo ass boi
21:35.29DrodoEmpirehur
21:35.33OluapPlayerUnless CS:Go doesn't have that
21:35.36OluapPlayerNever played it
21:35.42DrodoEmpireWell its possible
21:35.52DrodoEmpireNot really all that necessary on most maps anymore though
21:36.02OluapPlayerTF2 made me try to crouch jump in every other shooter I've played
21:36.25DrodoEmpireI think the idea of CS:GO's map design is to streamline their designs so specialised movements like that aren't all that necessary anymore
21:36.34DrodoEmpireIts a good idea in CSS tho
21:36.37XhoWorks in Halo
21:36.42OluapPlayerhola
21:37.12Xhoayyyyy sí
21:39.10Wormy_BEES http://imgur.com/a/ZaO9H
21:39.52OluapPlayerThe text's in portuguese
21:47.25Xho"protect your face from my fists"
21:52.25Monethttp://www.popsci.com/mit-researchers-make-wearable-glowing-jewelry-from-gold-leaf?src=SOC&dom=tw this looks like something from the DI.
21:56.28DrodoEmpirehur
21:56.32DrodoEmpireThat's pretty cool though
21:57.18MonetIndeed.
21:58.32Spluff5What would happen if one brought hypermatter into realspace through a wormhole?
21:59.12MonetYou get the equivalent of a thermobaric explosion.
21:59.45MonetThe hypermatter encounters the realspace fabric and is forced to release its excess energy - boom.
21:59.45GhelawayIt's not actually immediately obvious what "bringing hypermatter into realspace" would mean: hypermatter isn't something that's restricted to hyperspace; it just has momentum in an extra dimension.
22:00.14GhelawayBut yes, when you get rid of that momentum, the extra kinetic energy has to go somewhere, and it is released in the decay of hyperparticles.
22:01.27GhelawayThat being said, it's clear that for some reason hypermatter doesn't interact non-gravitationally with anything in realspace.
22:02.16GhelawayPerhaps the realspace brane only exists at nodes in hyperparticle wavefunctions.
22:02.31Wormy_Intriguing
22:03.22GhelawayThe hyperspace page does have the wording that hypermatter energy "can be released by bringing hyperparticles into realspace".
22:03.27Wormy_Nodes that are only excitations of some gravitational field?
22:03.46GhelawayNo; it's nothing to do with gravity.
22:04.12GhelawayHyperparticles will form standing waves along the extra dimensions. Standing waves have nodes.
22:05.28Ghelaway"Bringing hyperparticles into realspace" is presumably shorthand for removing their extra-dimensional momentum somehow.
22:05.44DrodoEmpireGuys- generally speaking, in English, is Monet right? >>,
22:05.46DrodoEmpire*>.<
22:05.53DrodoEmpireI think Spluff wants a short sweet answer
22:06.23GhelawayBringing hypermatter into realspace, whatever that means, will do what Monet says.
22:06.32DrodoEmpireAlright
22:06.37GhelawayI don't think it makes sense to talk about doing that via wormhole.
22:06.44DrodoEmpireThere's your answer Spluff5
22:06.53DrodoEmpireContinue though, its interesting
22:07.03GhelawaySpluff and I have had more technical discussions before.
22:08.33GhelawayI don't think there's much more to say about it, unless I or someone else figures out how it should actually work.
22:09.22Spluff5The reason I ask is because I need negative mass without the discovery of hyperspace being made yet.
22:10.23Wormy_Possible, more generally negative energy arises from various quantum field effects
22:10.43GhelawayI suspect it could be discovered without knowing where it comes from.
22:10.54Wormy_The difficulty is how, if it at all, it can be harnessed
22:11.14Wormy_And thats true of a lot of things, especially in engineering
22:11.16GhelawayWormy_: The subtlety here is in what you mean by "negative energy". In the literal sense, yes, quantum fields can locally have a negative energy density.
22:11.54GhelawayBut for the applications that people think of for "exotic matter", it needs to be gravitationally repulsive, and pressure contributes to gravity too.
22:12.26GhelawaySo it's not enough to merely have negative energy; the negativity of the energy density also cannot be counteracted by positivity of the pressure.
22:13.12Spluff5I'm thinking for the Alcubierre drive which does require it
22:14.58GhelawayI don't see why you couldn't discover SporeWikiverse negative mass without becoming aware of hyperspace, and "bringing hypermatter into realspace through a wormhole" wouldn't be part of it.
22:16.43Spluff5Where would you find/get it though?
22:20.45GhelawayWe don't observe negative mass floating around in the universe, so I suppose you'd have to make it.
22:21.10Wormy_Not sure how it can help, but I found a paper somewhere where some physicists claimed they could split light into positive and negative energy components
22:22.05GhelawayMaking it would have to involve high-energy technologies that are capable of affecting fields on length scales equal to the size of the extra dimensions, but without being able to probe the structure of spacetime within these dimensions.
22:22.50GhelawayThat isn't necessarily impossible, but our description of negative mass coming from hyperspace is very handwavy as it is, so I don't know what these technologies would be.
22:23.14GhelawayWormy_: I think that's just negative energy without a sufficiently small or negative pressure.
22:24.29Ghelawayhttp://strangebeautiful.com/papers/curiel-primer-energy-conds.pdf - what you need is something that violates the averaged null energy condition.
22:25.42GhelawayNon-minimally coupled scalar fields are the only types of field known to do that. We don't officially have them in the SporeWikiverse; in real life they have been suggested as a mechanism for inflation.
22:27.12GhelawayIf we do include them, the problem of easily using it for time travel arises.
22:28.38GhelawayI think some models of dark energy have them too.
22:29.13GhelawayWhat they are are simply fields that interact with the metric in a way that isn't just simple gravitation.
22:31.41Wormy_For the most part, I'm willing to accept easy time travel in the SporeWikiverse as it follows the many worlds interpretation, barring of course magical time technologies
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22:35.43GhelawayThe problem is continuity, and how little it's been used. Even people who have no qualms about screwing with history tend to use Gyronic or more complicated methods instead. And a field with non-minimal coupling to the metric should hardly be the kind of thing you can miss if you've discovered quantum-scale spacetime curvature in hyperspace.
22:37.32GhelawayChronoscopic*
22:37.47Ghelawaychecks
22:37.53GhelawayOh good, Gyronic is still a canon name.
22:40.31Wormy_My reference to magic is that I recall you said before it was potentially non-quantum in its ability to manipulate histories without being part of one (which sounds like we could never really explain that).  But for any physics we can describe, the multiverse should rescue us from time meddlers (so time travellers never return to the same history they departed)
22:40.50GhelawayYes.
22:41.13GhelawayAlthough it could well be possible to entangle yourself with your own past timeline.
22:41.36Ghelawaysees if he said that on the Time page
22:42.37TechnobliteratorGyronic is still a canon name, but Chronoscopic is preferred
22:42.37Ghelawaydid, in fact, describe it as being the most likely situation
22:42.54GhelawayBut if you do specifically meddle with time, you can and will end up in a different timeline.
22:44.15GhelawayAssuming you're successful.
22:44.49GhelawayI'm going to go now. Bye!
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23:11.39Charles_BotThere's a series of videos on YouTube called "Naval Legends," which goes through famous ships in the WWI-WWII period
23:12.07ZF101Hello all.
23:12.41Charles_BotIt's made by a video game company, so they're appealing to that audience of gamers and battleship enthusiasts who appreciate big guns, armor, etc
23:13.07Charles_BotIt's really funny how they try, they try so hard to make what these battleships did in actual history interesting
23:13.10MonetHello
23:13.26DrodoEmpireCharles_Bot: hur
23:13.35Charles_BotWhen none of them, whether it's the Russian Baradino, the American Iowa, or the Japanese Yamato actually did anything
23:13.42DrodoEmpireYeah naval engagements have become increasingly rare
23:14.17Charles_BotBattleships might have had huge guns and armor, which makes you think that they'd meet in massive naval engagements a la trafalgar, but... They weren't
23:14.46DrodoEmpireYeah...
23:19.19Charles_BotDue to how naval warfare actually worked back then, the best way I can describe the use of battleships is as a measure of a navy's aggragate naval power, kept in reserve. The number of battleships you had, until the age of carriers, determined whether your cruisers would roam the seas.
23:20.05Charles_BotThe reality being that if an inferior battleship fleet left port, the superior fleet would go out and crush it.
23:20.53DrodoEmpireRight
23:22.20Charles_BotTek0516: want to play NTW sometime?
23:22.26Charles_BotMP campaign
23:26.57ZF101Did someone say total war?
23:27.14Charles_BotI did! You want to play a NTW campaign with me?
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23:27.31DrodoEmpireHi
23:27.33ZF101Sorry I busted in, I got excited.
23:27.42queenhelo
23:27.51Charles_BotNp, please
23:28.22ZF101Alright, you got a steam account?
23:28.31Charles_BotYAAAAY
23:28.38Charles_BotEtzan
23:28.44Charles_BotIt's the while hawk
23:28.56ZF101Made in Heaven is mine. It has a pony on it.
23:29.26Guest28373lol
23:30.00Charles_BotThere's a lot of made in heavens
23:30.09Charles_BotAny more info you can give me?
23:30.34ZF101Really, those jerks are copying my style!
23:30.45Charles_BotPonies too
23:31.33Charles_BotAdded the ones with ponies
23:31.55Charles_BotWho do you want to play as?
23:33.19ZF101Alright, I added you to my buddy list.
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23:35.04HachimanHi
23:35.52MonetHi
23:36.12Xhorabit
23:36.28XhoHachiman: https://soundcloud.com/turkeychickensandwich/seven-eight I did a dj0nt earlier
23:36.56MonetJust in time, I've just been updating some social dynamics http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Draconis#Social_Structure
23:37.08Hachimanneeds more non-conventional time signatures bruh
23:37.18Xho7/8 m8
23:37.26HachimanVery nice
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23:38.28XhoIt was less 0-0--0-0-0--0- and more 2-2--2-2-2--2-
23:41.50XhoMight turn it into a full song I dunno
23:45.54MonetWhat I've figured is Draconis probably haven't had much history of "you're a woman you can't X" for several reasons. Not least of which they're not that much different physically from Draconid men.
23:46.24DrodoEmpireMakes sense
23:47.18MonetMore accurately it's kind of "not fussed but women are important"
23:47.36MonetFor instance, bloodline names are matrilineal.
23:49.00MonetSpetis, Alessa, Paronus, they're all of the Vossus bloodline.
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23:49.39NeonPandahi all
23:49.44MonetHi
23:49.59Charles_MurrayDrodoEmpire Monet : Battleship gunnery
23:50.01Charles_Murrayhttps://youtu.be/nevcyobcpBc?t=4m7s
23:50.03DrodoEmpireMonet: Huh
23:50.24MonetUriel's of the Vecartus bloodline. The only way to continue the Vecartus line, according to tradition, is through any of his aunts, sisters or cousins.
23:55.03MonetCharles_Murray:I admire the mechanism.
23:58.15OluapPlayerlady's town
23:59.58MonetYeah

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