IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160813

00:01.41Xhohttp://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/494654277132688067/EBBD5A7377AADC24AB96B79E307BF5193689A378/ Planets are trippy in this game
00:02.19DrodoEmpireFloating rocks
00:02.29DrodoEmpireActually sorta interesting, even assuming its a glitch
00:02.46DrodoEmpireHow's it running for you Xho?
00:02.46XhoI've seen it on two planets so I don't think it is
00:02.50XhoPerfectly fine
00:02.54DrodoEmpireOh, huh
00:03.07DrodoEmpireWhat sorta computer do you got? Would it be considered high-end?
00:03.09Xhohttp://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/494654277132692617/FAD6751F082646020DB057B51BF997C89BA46C5A/
00:03.15XhoHigh end enough
00:03.24DrodoEmpireI'm trying to survey some people so I can get a good idea of how it'll run on mine
00:03.26DrodoEmpireAh, okay
00:05.22XhoThat first planet was basically Fallout 4 everywhere
00:05.27XhoIrradiated planet
00:06.25XhoNot sure how many fps I'm doing though
00:07.43OluapPlayerSteam -> Settings -> In-Game -> In-game FPS counter
00:08.01Xhorite
00:10.07XhoAround 30
00:10.10XhoDoesn't bother me really
00:11.13OluapPlayerIs NMS FPS unlocked?
00:11.40OluapPlayerSince it's a PS4 game it might be locked at 30
00:12.01XhoIt is currently
00:12.18XhoI get occasional spikes towards 60 but it doesn't appear to try to go above 30
00:12.26OluapPlayerAh
00:12.48Xho212,000 players
00:12.49Xhojesus
00:13.03OluapPlayer>new release has many players
00:13.05OluapPlayerdingus
00:13.18Xhoyey
00:13.28XhoDota 2 still tops the table at 1 mil+
00:13.52OluapPlayerOf course, it's been the most played game on Steam for years
00:14.07XhoTeam Fortress 2 is in a sorry state now
00:14.19Xhotis a husk m8
00:14.24Xhotis a husk
00:14.44OluapPlayerTF2 is still among the 10 most played games on Steam
00:14.52OluapPlayerIt was 6th place last time I checked
00:15.02XhoSomething like that
00:15.12XhoI can't describe No Man's Sky
00:15.20XhoIt's like Spore's Space Stage on steroids
00:15.37XhoMinus the creating part
00:15.43XhoStill though dat exploration tho
00:15.51XhoI spent 3 hours in one system
00:16.41XhoIt's ridiculously huge though, at the cruising speed on a planet it would take a week in real life to go to the next planet at that same speed
00:17.09MonetPretty big.
00:17.20MonetReminds me of KSP
00:17.22XhoAnd at max speed it still takes 2 or 3 minutes
00:17.30OluapPlayeraint nobody got time for dat
00:18.09XhoI wish I had a max power rig for it though to get the full experience
00:18.19XhoMy computer's powerful but not 2016 powerful
00:18.40XhoIt's not supportive of 4K basically
00:18.54MonetFirst World Problems.
00:19.22OluapPlayerMeanwhile my PC is about 2013 powerful
00:19.37XhoSo while it can run 1920 x 1080 at full power it looks weird on my monitor
00:19.54DrodoEmpireOluap: I'm in the same boat
00:20.07DrodoEmpireMy computer's a bit outdated
00:21.52OluapPlayerMy graphics card was outdated when I bought it because I'm bad at PC hardware
00:23.21MonetI think the Beastie Boys' "Sabotage" has become the unofficial theme to Star Trek.
00:23.54OluapPlayerI want at least a new processor
00:23.58OluapPlayerbut dat shit expensiv
00:25.02Monet£250-300 on average iirc.
00:26.45OluapPlayerThat'd be around 800-1000 to me
00:26.59MonetYowch.
00:27.20LaptopPandaI'm in the curious spot of I have a ludicrously powerful computer (developer specs) but a very poor monitor
00:27.40LaptopPandaso my computer is actually capable of putting out graphics better than my monitor can display
00:27.59The_Randomnesslol
00:41.41MonetWell as it turns out my suspicion of marketers using memes in adverts is at least slightly true http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/Decoder/2014/0226/Doge-and-Obamacare.-Such-anger.-Very-bewilderment
00:42.19MonetIn 2014 the Obama Administration tried to push the ACA using Doge.
00:42.46DrodoEmpireAgh
00:42.47DrodoEmpireOh
00:42.48DrodoEmpireOw
00:42.52DrodoEmpireThe cringe
00:42.58DrodoEmpireIts physically fucking painful
00:43.18MonetYeahh this might be one of those examples of using it badly.
00:44.45MonetTurns out they're not alone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s48adiBUfc
00:45.24MonetThis Delta Airlines PSA is a treasure trove of memes.
00:47.41DrodoEmpireAh, I think I saw that one
00:47.50DrodoEmpireIts always bad when the internet leaks
00:47.51DrodoEmpire>.<
00:48.39MonetNearly two minutes in you have (and these are the ones I can identify): Keyboard Cat, Annoying Orange, internet cats, PSY's Gentleman Harlem Shake and screaming goat,
00:49.05OluapPlayerKeyboard Cat
00:49.12OluapPlayerThat's some ancient stuff
00:49.42MonetHow about Dramatic Beaver?
00:50.17OluapPlayercaveman-tier
00:50.27OluapPlayerhttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/eb/Queen_Ganthar.png/revision/latest?cb=20160813005007 hot alien babe
00:52.09Monet3:54 I just saw Clingy Jealous Girlfriend
00:52.37CyrannianVery impressive Oluap
00:53.19OluapPlayerThat was a Rovegar about one million years ago
00:53.29DrodoEmpirehawt :o:o:o *underlined red '100' emoji about a million times*
00:53.38DrodoEmpireJeez
00:53.41DrodoEmpireWhat changed? >.<
00:53.45MonetI dread to think how mentally fucked up she became to get like that
00:54.13OluapPlayerhttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/a1/Princess_Ganthar.png/revision/latest?cb=20160805222248 her daughter has beautiful eyes
00:54.46MonetWell they say beauty is more than skin deep.
00:57.16OluapPlayerCyrannian: Nice new ship btw. I got it on my game immediately after you published it
00:57.47MonetThat Delta video...you'd think with all the understanding advertising put into trends they'd work out some of those memes are so old no one cares for them anymore.
00:58.22CyrannianDanke, just a recolour really
00:58.32OluapPlayeris good nonetheless
00:58.56OluapPlayerReminds me I was meaning to ask
00:59.13OluapPlayerI made a model for the fantasyverse but I think it could also fit as a Cyrannus race if you're interested
00:59.57OluapPlayerhttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/bc/Vulcaraptor.png/revision/latest?cb=20160728235308 this one
01:05.09CyrannianI c the word 'raptor' in the name and I already agree before I open the image hur
01:05.38MonetDrodoEmpire: I agree with you that Hello Games have blundered their launch.
01:05.43CyrannianThat's very impressive
01:05.49OluapPlayerIn the fantasyverse they're evil raptors who can breathe fire
01:06.00OluapPlayerThat last part will probably not carry over to Cyrannus hur
01:06.12CyrannianDu'utahrovin - #rude
01:06.32MonetSaw the post that they're currently working on a version that supports intel cards - ...How!
01:06.34OluapPlayerVulcaraptor - our fire betta    we even red
01:06.50MonetIntel is like...what the majority provider?
01:06.56CyrannianI really like the layout of the feathers
01:07.13OluapPlayerThis was the first successful attempt at making a dinosaur
01:07.20OluapPlayerOr dinosaur-like thing at least
01:07.25OluapPlayerDinosaurs were probably not that color
01:08.44MonetI'm now glad I decided not to buy as I use an Intel processor.
01:08.49CyrannianReminds me of this depiction of a Pyroraptor, which incidentally means 'fire thief': http://www.dinosauriaonline.com/Dinosaurs/P/Pyroraptor.jpg
01:09.06OluapPlayerIt looks like it's wearing a coat
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01:10.01DrodoEmpirepyroraptorcynical <.<
01:10.02DrodoEmpireHi
01:10.27OluapPlayercozy raptor
01:13.02MonetWhenever I hear raptor there's a 50/50 chance I think sprinter dinos or F-22s.
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01:25.21OluapPlayerCyrannian: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/81/Bugahoulger.png/revision/latest?cb=20160813012505 bet you forgot these existed
01:25.44CyrannianThe Cognatus folks?
01:25.50OluapPlayerYep
01:25.54OluapPlayerNew model for you
01:26.21CyrannianThey look strangely cute
01:26.40CyrannianI think they would work well in the Order than than Vos' gang of misfits
01:27.25OluapPlayerqt 3-headed bug
01:27.47OluapPlayerAnd yes they're more inclined to work for peace
01:32.00Wormy_Here's a pretty planet I visited, morning and evening, and I spent the longest on this one:  http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=742768835 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=742768961  and here's a bizzare alien from the fungus planet http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=742769452
01:32.29Wormy_I called the last one "Mckenna's planet" after Terence Mckenna for his bizzare theories of shrooms
01:35.23CyrannianI'm jelly :<
01:35.27Wormy_he came up with this for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxKrskPyBuI
01:36.26OluapPlayerThat alien is wearing a little hat
01:38.52Wormy_I'll get some more pictures of the fungus creatures tomorrow
01:42.02Charles_BotMeanwhile, in Mirus
01:43.45Charles_BotThe Mendel Pact deployed troops along the border of one of their territories with France. I successfully interrupted their deployment with a blockade (a bluff, when you get down to it). Now I'm counter-escalating and demanding that they pull out all of the troops that have already been deployed. If those troops don't go, I bomb.
01:51.57Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/RYPkDA3
01:53.34Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Vehicle:Venator-class_Star_Destroyer - Some updates
01:57.02CyrannianNightie night
02:05.33Wormy_3 countries through one keyhole http://imgur.com/gallery/DOGQR
02:15.03The_Randomnessthat's a pretty cool picture
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02:34.22Quark8Hello.
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03:36.28DrodoEmpireUpdate to my extended timeline thing on EUIV: Rome's completely falling apart
03:36.45DrodoEmpireGallia's seceded, and is also being consumed by rebels as is Rome
03:36.56DrodoEmpireLiu Song's getting bigger and is stable, ironically
03:37.19DrodoEmpireXiongnu's succumbing to invasion after a mediocre 250 year track record
03:37.24DrodoEmpireits 252 AD
03:43.49The_RandomnessWhen did Rome fall IRL again?
03:43.59DrodoEmpireWell...
03:44.10DrodoEmpireWestern Rome fell in the 400s AD
03:44.38DrodoEmpire476, that's it
03:44.56The_Randomnessah
03:44.58DrodoEmpireAnd the Eastern Roman Empire is *generally* agreed to have fallen in 1453 AD
03:45.13The_RandomnessYeah, I know the Eastern Roman Empire stuck around for quite a bit longer
03:45.23The_RandomnessAnd then fell when the Ottomans took it, right?
03:45.25DrodoEmpireBut the whole thing with what's the Byzantine Empire, Latin Empire, Eastern Roman, whatever can be a bit controversial
03:45.28DrodoEmpireYes
03:45.55The_Randomnesscannons OP
03:46.11DrodoEmpireThe Byzantine Empire collapsed with the end of the siege of Constantinople in 1453- they did not go out quietly
03:46.16DrodoEmpireWell...
03:46.34DrodoEmpireThe Ottomans needed the biggest cannon in the world at the time to breach the ancient Theodosian walls
03:46.45DrodoEmpireWhich is a testament to their strength
03:48.05The_Randomnessyeah, it was quite the cannon
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05:53.24Yuggy04Hola como estas
05:53.39The_Randomnessbien, y tu?
05:54.08Yuggy04Si, moi bien!
05:54.43The_Randomness"moi" - that doesn't look like Spanish :P
05:56.09Yuggy04:P I don't speak much spanish, much less know how to type in Spanish
05:56.32The_Randomnessyeah, I'm too lazy to do the accent marks 99% of the time
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06:01.36DrodoEmpireOh, hi Yuggy
06:05.20Yuggy04_Herro!
06:06.16DrodoEmpireHEY
06:06.21DrodoEmpire*Hey
06:07.29Yuggy04_How are you?
06:08.19DrodoEmpireI'm good
06:08.27DrodoEmpireIts late, but I'm good
06:09.01Yuggy04_Sounds good. Late for me as well.
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08:13.45ImpyDroidNeonPanda: So apparently the last Bulgarian Tsar, who was deposed at young age, returned to the country years ago to restore his rule - but not as a monarch, through running for PM
08:13.51ImpyDroidAnd he actually woj
08:13.53ImpyDroid*won
08:13.55ImpyDroid*Premier
08:14.48ImpyDroidNot Premier, President
08:14.58ImpyDroidSo basically they had a king for a president for a while
08:54.23NeonPandasolid effort
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12:41.24dino82_ow quiet on here :d
12:43.36OluapPlayernothing to talk about
12:44.16dino82_lol
12:44.33dino82_on interessting quote oluap on sanfairy :D
12:44.43dino82_thanks :D
12:46.07OluapPlayerit's a joke
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13:01.48GhelaeHello.
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13:13.26Wormy_hi
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13:16.23Wormy_DrodoEmpire, Monet Slavery in the Federation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvpQjzwBh_U
13:19.24Charles_BotBoo
13:35.06MonetWormy_: What about the hologram miners?
13:42.38Wormy_them too
13:46.08MonetAlthough commenters are saying this is from the Outer Limits.
13:53.43Wormy_Yeah Grin makes parody recuts of Star Trek TNG and mashes them with actors from other films.
13:54.13GhelaeDrodoEmpire: Would I correct in thinking that your description of the industrialisation of the Holy Theox Kingdom implies military equipment comparable to that of the mid-19th century on Earth, and so the Great War is technologically equivalent to WWI, or a bit earlier?
13:55.14DrodoEmpireEhh, more like the mid-late 19th century yes
13:55.32DrodoEmpireAnd that second assumption's also more or less correct
13:56.33GhelaeOkay. I'm currently working out roughly how science and technology should develop around that time.
13:57.22DrodoEmpireAlright
13:59.51GhelaeI'm thinking, if nuclear weapons were never used in warfare on Prasandadr, perhaps nuclear-powered rockets would have been developed. Not that fear of nuclear explosions due to Hiroshima was the only reason why Project Orion never made it off the ground.
14:00.44DrodoEmpireHmm, yeah perhaps
14:01.41Charles_BotGhelae Would those have been practical? (I don't know the answer to that question)
14:02.39GhelaeI believe so, for the most part. You might want to use chemical rockets to get to orbit, especially in something like the modern world where an EMP would seriously harm our satellite-dependent technology.
14:03.21DrodoEmpireYeah several plans were drawn up for an idea like that
14:03.30GhelaeA bigger problem is shielding the crew from radiation. I don't know whether the increased power of the propulsion system would be sufficient to counteract the extra mass needed for shielding.
14:03.38Ghelaehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion) is what I'm thinking of.
14:03.41DrodoEmpireIncluding at least one where the ship was propelled by detonating nuclear weapons right behind it
14:03.59GhelaeMore generally, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_pulse_propulsion
14:04.07DrodoEmpireAh, yes, this is the one that does that >.<
14:04.32MonetI was going to say, I recall one reason Orion didn't get off the ground was that you were using a nuclear explosions to provide lift - which would have created a trail of gamma rays.
14:05.23Charles_BotAnd also, you know, detonate a nuclear device :P
14:05.36Wormy_Well, gamma rays could be blocked with enough shielding (and I mean a lot)
14:05.44Wormy_As for the blast, well its in a vacuum
14:06.16Wormy_The heat produced would mean that the nuke would have to be detonated at a fair distance I guess
14:06.19MonetWormy_: Newton's laws though.
14:06.33MonetYou still have a radioactive exhaust.
14:06.54GhelaePrasandadr had an advantage over Earth in that its continents are all closer together, so its equivalent of the middle of the Pacific Ocean is even emptier and further from civilisation than it is on Earth.
14:07.09Wormy_Yeah but it isn't what is most damanging about a nuclear explosion - that's all turned to particle radiation
14:07.25Wormy_In the atmosphere that gets absorbed by the atmosphere
14:07.44Wormy_In space that will be the job of the radiation shielding
14:07.58GhelaeRadiation shielding isn't just needed to protect against the explosions, I should point out: it's for cosmic rays too.
14:09.34Charles_BotI was thinking that France has an arsenal of long-range hyperspace-delivered nuclear weapons, so this discussion is helpful
14:11.25Wormy_This is what a nuclear detonation looks like at the edge of space https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFXlrn6-ypg
14:11.37Wormy_Most of the glow comes from ionisation of the upper atmosphere
14:13.11GhelaeHow long do you think it would take to build an Orion-type spacecraft?
14:13.16Wormy_I believe it caused a surprise EMP blast over Hawaii
14:13.43Wormy_And a long lasting aurora phenomenon
14:17.24GhelaeSaturn V took about four years to build, and it looks like some Orions could be around the same size and mass.
14:18.01Wormy_It might be a lot heavier than a Saturn V, which implies to me its better off built and assembled in orbit
14:18.58GhelaeAn interstellar one, certainly. Possibly along with the bigger interplanetary ones.
14:19.13GhelaeFor the first one, I'll guess maybe about a decade.
14:21.55Wormy_I think thats reasonable
14:26.39Wormy_I was fascinated by this:  During hydrogen bomb tests, the US put down multi-km long pipes that were rigged straight to the bomb.  The pipes were vapourised but not before they directed gamma and neutron radiation down to detectors far away that could detect the first fraction of the explosion  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7vyKDcSTaE
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14:38.21Monetbbl
14:38.35dino82_hi
15:02.20GhelThe super-collab timeline has now reached the interstellar age. I don't think we need to go any further yet.
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15:11.53The_Ex-HoeI don't think anyone's getting the pun
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15:14.32XhoI tried and faile
15:14.35Xhofailed even
15:14.45Xho"Steam refund simulator 2016  10/10 would refund again"  - Some guy about No Man's Sky
15:16.20XhoMy only gripe with No Man's Sky is that it isn't multiplayer friendly
15:16.38XhoOkay yeah sure you've got ~200,000 people playing it but that's across 18 quintillion planets
15:16.59XhoThat's still an exceptionally small chance of encountering anyone
15:17.40Xho1 in 92 quadrillion chance
15:20.40OluapPlayerXho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet%3AHyposirius check
15:22.42XhoI could imagine Nu living there
15:22.53XhoIt's out of PCA jurisdiction and it's a haven for nutcases
15:23.35OluapPlayerLiving there implies some mental functionality
15:23.44OluapPlayerUnless his house is a hole in the ground at the Dead End
15:23.57XhoNu - well i didn't say it was easy living
15:24.14OluapPlayerThat's where the nutcases exist, because only a nutcase would want to live there
15:26.20XhoNu's insane but not an animal
15:26.56OluapPlayerlike Omega but the vorcha are twice larger and twice angrier
15:27.08XhoNu - BRUSH YO TEETH NIGGA
15:27.46XhoI can imagine Nu probably working for Skarten to some degree
15:28.04XhoSkarten would probably like a supersoldier who likes being paid to kill
15:28.08OluapPlayerKithworto - whose side are you on           Nu - against everyone
15:28.44OluapPlayerAnd yes he would work with Nu as long as he doesn't cause trouble
15:29.00XhoI think as long as interference is at a minimum Nu wouldn't mind being a criminal
15:30.16OluapPlayerSince Kicath are a Council race there shouldn't be many of them there
15:30.26OluapPlayerHaving a angry and mighty attitude also would get you killed very quickly
15:31.01XhoNu - gud             tau can fuk the fuk off
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15:58.07Wormy_Good ol' Wiggo http://imgur.com/gallery/Jhrl0VM
15:58.55Tek0516I read an interesting study last night, according to it's results students who do more online gaming score higher in school while students who use more social media score lower in school.
16:02.08Tek0516Though also interestingly they admit it's not clear whether it might be reverse casuality (i.e. "nerds" playing more online gaming)
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16:11.01Tek0516Hello
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16:28.50XhoTempted to just rename every planet I come across in No Man's Sky to 'Dicks Out for Harambe'
16:29.59OluapPlayerget puked on
16:36.42Xhodick it out dam u
16:36.53Quark8Xho: Yesterday I saw that you had some problems using No Man's Sky. How did you fix it?
16:37.31Xhohttps://developer.nvidia.com/opengl-driver I downloaded the relevant link on this site and installed the update
16:37.33XhoWorked fine after that
16:38.00Quark8I see.
16:40.54XhoIt requires OpenGL 4.5 to run so I looked for an update to that
16:47.29XhoWell just found out that the actor for R2-D2 has died
16:50.52Tek0516He had an actor?
16:51.07MonetHe had A controller.
16:51.22Xhowow harsh toke
16:51.35MonetMight ave ben th wrong word
16:52.16Tek0516Not to be rude to him, just surprised
17:02.57XhoOluapPlayer: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/559826254430731342/BB84BB7A1895AE0AF666B168C772BB0C30AAAD2D/ "k"
17:03.30OluapPlayerSeen that, 10/10
17:03.31Tek0516O.o The TV got interrupted for a tornado warning.
17:03.33OluapPlayershopped though
17:04.24XhoIt's a good shop then
17:07.31Wormy_Monet http://imgur.com/gallery/Jhrl0VM
17:11.08Wormy_Monet:  Pretty sure the actor of R2D2 actually did sit inside the case in the original films
17:11.27Wormy_I also heard he had a rivalry with Anthony Daniels
17:11.50Wormy_<PROTECTED>
17:12.10Tek0516O.o
17:13.47Wormy_Also, one of the Ewok actors is a family friend
17:14.12Wormy_He keeps promising to give me loads of Star Wars stuff he has but it never happens
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17:23.56Quark8Hello Luxor.
17:23.57LuxorAye
17:24.28LuxorIt's the very first time I see you on IRC, Quark
17:25.16Quark8Oh. I've seen you multiple times on IRC.
17:25.27LuxorPerhaps I'm just blind.
17:26.13Wormy_"Dachshund Pepper preparing a pillow for sleep" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP7AfB-u4Qg  -> all the people worried about its dick rubbing on the pillow = They clearly don't have dogs.  I'm used to having mine lay allover my bed and often in it
17:26.37Wormy_*used to having my dogs
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17:35.51DrodoEmpireBack >.<
17:36.25Quark8Welcome back.
17:37.32DrodoEmpireThanks
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18:10.39Yuggy04Hi!
18:10.47Quark8_Hello.
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18:17.49Yuggy04_ow I'm lagging
18:19.19DrodoEmpireHey Yuggy
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18:52.42DrodoEmpireOh shit
18:53.08DrodoEmpireThe empire of Aksum has just turned in to the Rashidun Caliphate in my EUIV game o.O
18:53.12DrodoEmpireits 627 AD
18:53.35DrodoEmpireIt was a *huge* empire, too
18:53.43DrodoEmpireSo its full-on aloha snackbar from here <.<
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18:56.54Wormy_NMSFound a mud pool or something like it
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18:58.26The_RandomnessHello
18:59.48Quark8Hey.
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19:30.32Quark8Hello Imperios.
19:59.26Charles_BotMy phone just asked me if I wanted "to allow this computer access to my phone, videos, and other data."
19:59.34Charles_BotI had just plugged my phone into the plane.
20:00.21The_Randomnesshuh
20:02.03Tek0516Charles_Bot: that feels like a massive security vulnerability, and I'm not even sure for who.
20:05.54The_RandomnessIt could just be due to the way ports are configured or something
20:05.59The_Randomnessprobably not significant
20:09.46Charles_BotOf course
20:09.49Charles_BotStill funny
20:11.29Tek0516It implies that the phone detected a connection capable of data transfer. I assume it was a USB port?
20:13.33The_RandomnessI'd guess it would be, but I haven't been on a plane in AGES, so I wouldn't know
20:14.22Xhohttp://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=743409765 So, No Man's Sky gave me a bit of a jump
20:14.38The_Randomnessmassive spider thing
20:15.38XhoNMS' random name generators are like Spore+Hard Difficulty
20:16.54XhoOn Spore you get a planet called Tulodoc or something
20:17.16XhoOn NMS you get some crazy ass 15 word long planet
20:17.56Quark8What do you think of NMS?
20:18.47XhoI like it but the single-playerness of the game makes it a little more boring than it should be
20:19.37XhoIt doesn't live up to the hype but it's still an interesting game
20:19.52Quark8Ok. Does it get repetitive?
20:20.02XhoYeah
20:20.09XhoVisual experiences are different every time
20:20.16XhoAlthough the gameplay mechanics doesn't change
20:22.26XhoIf it had a strong multiplayer element this game could be very interesting
20:23.53Quark8Hm.
20:27.48XhoThe game's trailers and the game itself are different
20:29.41DrodoEmpireI do hope some sort of group-exploration, like the ability to join a 'lobby' that keeps a few players together in an expedition would be a cool update
20:32.05XhoThat would make the game I think
20:32.17XhoRight now it's extremely empty
20:32.30DrodoEmpireI think that's coming, at some point
20:32.34DrodoEmpireSuch an obvious addition
20:32.41Quark8^
20:32.44DrodoEmpireAnd they're clearly an extremely skilled team
20:32.55Tek0516Using another game as an example, so far NMS sounds a lot like the "Solo" mode of Elite:Dangerous, while its "Open" (multiplayer) mode is what many people expected.
20:33.44Tek0516(In open you still deal mostly with NPCs but any players in your instance can interact with you.)
20:37.50XhoI wish I could say there was a strong exlporation element to it as well but it becomes pretty obvious after a while that the game only rehashes the same variants
20:37.55XhoSpore has more variety than NMS
20:38.38Technobliteratoroh, it does?
20:39.00XhoSpore has a million times more variation than NMS
20:39.15XhoThere's a lot of variables in NMS but I've seen the same thing more than once
20:39.25OluapPlayerSome help me with grammar for a sec
20:39.29The_Randomnesssure
20:39.30OluapPlayerSomeone even
20:39.38Xhonot wit dat mistake 0/10 help urself
20:40.05OluapPlayer"Cats are friendly toward other creatures" or "Cats are friendly towards other creatures"?
20:40.31The_Randomnessthe former
20:40.38OluapPlayerOkay thanks
20:40.42The_Randomnesstowards is for singular subject
20:40.56OluapPlayerStuff like this always get me
20:41.21OluapPlayerSame with "the cat is on the table" and "the cat is in the table"
20:41.29OluapPlayerengrish dum languaj
20:41.46The_RandomnessYeah, English has a separate word for on and in
20:41.56The_RandomnessInstead of just "en" in the case of Spanish
20:42.46Tek0516The E:D subreddit actually has a whole long welcome post dedicated to disappointed NMS players. XD
20:42.52OluapPlayerYeah we use completely separate expressions for that in portuguese so there isn't any confusion there
20:43.00XhoIt is a disappointment
20:44.59XhoWormy might get a different experience out of it
20:45.04XhoBut I'm seeing the same thing over and over again
20:46.53TechnobliteratorSo, NMS is disappointing?
20:47.24Tek0516Sounds like it is for a lot of people.
20:47.36The_RandomnessSounds like it was overhyped more than anything else
20:47.42Quark8Aye.
20:47.45XhoDefinitely overhyped
20:47.53Quark8Hm. Apparently, this time in India I'll have internet.
20:47.58TechnobliteratorI mean, I am not surprised that it was overhyped
20:47.59Technobliteratorat all
20:48.43Tek0516The impression I'm getting is it's a game all about the exploration but the diversity within the exploration is underwhelming.
20:50.44XhoThat's pretty much it
20:50.54XhoI don't think there's a large number of NPC races either
20:51.09XhoI've come across two and I don't think there's much more than two
20:52.13Charles_BotWhat about the journey to the center of the galaxy thing, and the sheer scale of the game?
20:52.33XhoAll I can say is A for effort
20:55.18DrodoEmpireThe game had zero chance to living up to the hype
20:55.39Tek0516Of course
20:56.19DrodoEmpirePart of that is Hello Games mismanaging the info around the game's development- the game, in all, went through a pretty typical development cycle for a game, with stuff added, cut, etc. but the media around it spoke waay too much in some areas and too little in others
20:56.54DrodoEmpireAnd that meant people made up their own idea in their head on what NMS would be, and when it wasn't like that they felt cheated
20:57.05Tek0516And some of the big hyped parts got cut (like the multiplayer)
20:57.30XhoIf you want creativity and diversity stick to Spore
20:57.33DrodoEmpireWell, no, the 'multiplayer' was always there, but Hello Games didn't make it clear what exactly it was until it was too laye
20:57.35DrodoEmpire*late
20:58.13DrodoEmpirePeople probably wouldn't feel cheated, or that NMS was somehow a horrible game if Hello games was able to manage its media coverage better
20:58.27DrodoEmpireAnd keep a realistic vision of it in peoples' heads
20:58.27Quark8Right.
20:59.15DrodoEmpireI mean if you *really* did your research (like I did, or people like CobraTV did) you wouldn't be disappointed. But you shouldn't need to do such research in order to have a realistic idea of the game
21:00.15DrodoEmpireBut its hard to blame Hello Games, as they were making an insanely ambitious game with a tiny team, and probably had zero resources left over for a competent media campaign
21:00.20XhoFor someone who likes creativity and some sort of artistry in a game, No Man's Sky has more of the latter than the former but it's a very choppy idea of it
21:00.35DrodoEmpireFair enough
21:00.56Monet<PROTECTED>
21:01.14XhoI'll stick to ZBrush and Spore I think
21:01.57TechnobliteratorI mean
21:01.58DrodoEmpireLike I said, this controversy wouldn't be here if NMS had a good media campaign- other examples of bad media coverage in video games would be the 'Meet your Match' update for TF2
21:02.02TechnobliteratorI knew it'd be overhyped
21:02.09Technobliteratordepends on how good it is despite being overhyped
21:02.46DrodoEmpireMeet your Match was infamously described as "neato" by a dev, with almost no other coverage than that made
21:03.04DrodoEmpireAlmost everything else was stuff fans found by digging in the game files
21:03.39DrodoEmpireSurprise surprise, mixed reception :p
21:03.44OluapPlayerTF2 is a mess overall, has been for years
21:04.14DrodoEmpireYeah, and Meet your Match is a great example of how and why it is in a small package
21:04.34TechnobliteratorTF2 does not sound like a game Valve gives enough care these days
21:04.41XhoI don't really know what's up with game devs these days
21:04.58XhoThe last really good game I played in a chronologically-released matter was Fallout New Vegas
21:05.28TechnobliteratorMGSV was fantastic
21:05.39Technobliteratoroh
21:05.41TechnobliteratorUncharted 4
21:05.42OluapPlayerI have to wonder what Valve even those nowadays. They've got over 200 employees but we don't see them doing anything other than TF2/Dota 2 cosmetics
21:05.59OluapPlayerand the occasional Steam thing no one really cares about after the first week
21:06.00TechnobliteratorOluapPlayer, there are two new Dota 2 heroes announced
21:06.05XhoMoving Gaben around as he's now too big to use his own legs
21:06.08TechnobliteratorOne of which is a brand new hero, ie, not seen in Dota 1
21:06.10Technobliteratorso there's that
21:06.19XhoIT'S A 200 MAN TEAM
21:06.23OluapPlayerValve didn't port Pit Lord to Dota 2 yet
21:06.30TechnobliteratorThey did
21:06.31OluapPlayerAnd it's been what, 3 years since release?
21:06.32TechnobliteratorUnderlord
21:06.44TechnobliteratorUnderlord is what they called him, and it was just announced
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21:06.50Technobliteratorhihi
21:06.51TybusenHello
21:07.02OluapPlayerI checked last month and he was still unreleased
21:07.12TechnobliteratorWell, it was announced two days ago
21:07.18TechnobliteratorAnd he's releasing August 23rd
21:07.22TechnobliteratorNot sure when Sun Wukong is releasing
21:07.29OluapPlayerSo my point stands
21:07.42OluapPlayerBack when Dota 2 was in beta, we were getting a new hero every month or so
21:07.45TechnobliteratorI mean, it's something that's not a cosmetic
21:07.48Technobliterator:V
21:07.57Technobliteratoryeah, but they were lower quality than now
21:08.06Technobliteratorpoorer textures
21:08.13Technobliteratorfewer voice lines
21:08.30OluapPlayerTextures they never bothered to update
21:08.36TechnobliteratorI imagine they've shifted a lot of focus on things like SteamOS
21:08.42Technobliteratorand VR
21:08.48TechnobliteratorSteam Box did not do well at all
21:08.59XhoValve's basically turned into EA 2.0
21:09.08OluapPlayerJakiro still looks like something out of a PS2 game
21:09.08TechnobliteratorNo, they're the opposite
21:09.18TechnobliteratorEA release too much stuff and overhype the hell out of everything
21:09.31TechnobliteratorValve don't release anything at all and refuse to market their products
21:09.46TechnobliteratorEA release 9999 sequels, Valve have yet to release a third sequel to anything
21:09.53OluapPlayerBoth bad. Valve left the good dev list for a while now
21:10.06TechnobliteratorBut they're bad for different reasons
21:10.17TechnobliteratorI have lost faith in Valve, which used to be one of my favourite devs
21:10.31OluapPlayerThe only game dev I see no flaws in nowadays is CD Projekt RED
21:10.45TechnobliteratorThe modern Square Enix is pretty good :o
21:11.01XhoI wanted to like The Witcher but it was too slow for my taste
21:11.07Xhomuch like NMS :v
21:11.11Technobliteratorbbl
21:11.15OluapPlayerYou played the worst game in the trailer so of course
21:11.26OluapPlayerWitcher 3 deserves all the awards it got
21:11.30OluapPlayer*trilogy
21:11.40MonetIt does. One of the best games in a while
21:11.52MonetValve I think has become more of a publisher.
21:12.13ImperiosTechnobliterator: So basically we finally have all the heroes in the game?
21:12.38OluapPlayeralso I can't comment on Square Enix. The last time I played a game made by them was when I played Super Mario RPG for the SNES
21:12.54TybusenI'm just mostly disappointed with what Valve did to TF2
21:13.25OluapPlayerAlso Bay 12 Games is god-tier for the sole purpose of being the maker of Dwarf Fortress
21:13.26Tek0516Portal 2, TF2, L4D2, HL2... Huh, Valve does seem to hate third games. XD
21:13.39OluapPlayer*sole reason
21:13.56Tek0516(I probably misattributed something there. >.>)
21:14.13OluapPlayerValve never released a title with a 3 in it, no
21:14.22ImperiosTybusen: Well now we have Overwatch
21:14.28XhoTF3 would be an interesting theory
21:14.35ImperiosSo at least the market is still filled
21:14.36OluapPlayerAnd for all we know about what they're doing, they aren't going to
21:14.40TybusenYeah but we did have TF2
21:14.45OluapPlayerOnly 3's in Valve are Gabe's 3 million sold hats
21:14.53TybusenI don't think TF2 and Overwatch are quite the same
21:14.56XhoAlthough TF2 did perfect their characters until TF2 started to lose its quality
21:15.13OluapPlayerTF2's characters degraded heavily over time
21:15.31OluapPlayerAll of them are bumbling idiots right now
21:16.04ImperiosTybusen: IT's roughly the same genre
21:16.05ImperiosRoughly
21:16.17OluapPlayerbrb
21:16.26XhoI can't say I've played a perfect game for years, but yeah New Vegas is the closest to perfect that I've come across
21:16.36XhoAlongside Oblivion and SC II of course
21:16.54TybusenI mostly liked TF2 because it didn't take itself too seriously
21:17.10XhoTF2's alright but I get varying experiences out of it
21:17.22XhoI don't get consistent performance and I go between idiot and god mode every game
21:17.24Quark8The last game that I've liked -a lot- was RimWorld.
21:17.47TybusenI haven't played any of the normal TF2 modes since MyM released
21:17.55TybusenI just mostly do VSH games now
21:18.30XhoI do FF2 a bit because one of my Garry's Mod characters is in it so
21:18.33Xhowhy the hell not
21:19.02XhoOne of Oluap's characters are in it as well but mentioning TF2 GMod characters is a trigger button
21:21.04TybusenHonestly I preferred TF2 without the matchmaking stuff even if it meant some hilariously unbalanced servers
21:21.31XhoI don't understand why they've done matchmaking
21:21.40XhoIt really doesn't float my boat
21:21.51TybusenYou could just easily jump to another server if it was getting frustrating, and even then the cartooniness of TF2 alleviated some of the salt
21:22.20TybusenCompetitive matchmaking is understandable but I don't know why they forced it on Casual
21:22.32TybusenTrying too hard to copy Overwatch there imo
21:30.33NeonPandaI missed the moment, but CD Project Red has a fan in me, so long as they actually finish Cyberpunk2077
21:30.47NeonPandaif they make that and it's anything like The Witcher meets Night City, I will love them forever
21:34.43Quark8I'm watching the Olympics, and I'm pretty sure I'm hearing Darth Vader's theme in the volleyball. :P
21:39.58NeonPandaoh, speaking of, DrodoEmpire Monet: a ways further down the track, but once Hachi gets his thing going I'll probably run a few sessions of Cyberpunk
21:42.19Monet<PROTECTED>
21:43.34DrodoEmpireHmm, okay
21:54.47OluapPlayerbah he left as I was about to post something
21:57.07OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/9qj9s0M.jpg real life picture of Cyrannian
21:57.54NeonPandaaccurate
22:11.00Charles_BotMonet: Katar
22:11.08Charles_BotImperios you too
22:17.45MonetI was about to start a stream
22:22.02NeonPandawhatcha streamin?
22:22.23DrodoEmpireStream featuring Keemstar <.<
22:27.16Monethttp://www.youtube.com/c/Mstamp176BlogspotUk/live this
22:27.21MonetMe working in Maya
22:28.26DrodoEmpireCool cool
22:32.13DrodoEmpireThe Rashidun Caliphate and the Papal State are fighting as allies in a war, in my EUIV game o.O
22:33.36DrodoEmpireAnd as the only two nations on that side, too- so its not like they're fighting together because of a web of alliances
22:34.23DrodoEmpireYep, Papal State's allied with Etruria and the Caliphate
22:35.39ImperiosDrodoEmpire: "Whether God has a son or a messenger, we're pretty safe he's on our side now"
22:54.27DrodoEmpireolol
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