| 00:00.25 | Monet | I had a glass of pinot grigio today and I think my taste buds are getting over that urine taste you can get when unfamiliar with wine. |
| 00:00.52 | Monet | Wormy_: Isn't that the same dog you showed us earlier? |
| 00:01.11 | Wormy_ | It is indeed |
| 00:01.32 | Wormy_ | Urine taste??? |
| 00:01.54 | Monet | Wine tends to have a stronger alcohol content than beer. |
| 00:03.02 | Monet | A typical red wine can be about 8-12% alcohol |
| 00:04.33 | Wormy_ | I like red wine with dinner |
| 00:04.54 | Wormy_ | I had a 12% beer once, a Russian Imperial Stout |
| 00:06.49 | Monet | So I think I'm getting used to drinking wine. |
| 00:07.11 | Technobliterator | I just got back here and now I'm hungry for pizza |
| 00:07.18 | Wormy_ | Does it make you feel tired after say, the second glass? |
| 00:07.47 | Monet | I usually only have one so can't recall. |
| 00:10.26 | Monet | cooks Technobliterator some pan-fried chicken served on top of a stir fry |
| 00:10.33 | Wormy_ | I like a bit of Pinot noir |
| 00:10.50 | Technobliterator | nty |
| 00:11.26 | The_Randomness | pepperoni is best pizza |
| 00:11.52 | Monet | It's a slight shame I live on the student phase of my life. |
| 00:12.44 | Hachiman | >wine |
| 00:12.53 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:12.56 | Hachiman | Monet is making his full transition into a snob |
| 00:13.11 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 00:13.13 | Wormy_ | Rioja too |
| 00:13.24 | Wormy_ | Hey I drink wine, except I call it "plonk", so I'm safe |
| 00:13.50 | Monet | Technically I am since I'm a university student who is sans nobilite. |
| 00:16.21 | Hachiman | I wonder if it feels good for snobs and high-class folk to occasionally act and mingle among the middle and lower classes |
| 00:16.46 | Monet | But meh, there's a difference between surviving and living and I intend to live despite my student budget. |
| 00:17.01 | Wormy_ | contempt and amusement I imagine |
| 00:17.35 | Wormy_ | Use it while its there, it all had to be paid back anyway |
| 00:18.06 | Wormy_ | But seriously, drinking wine is not a posh thing anymore |
| 00:18.24 | Monet | I don't buy clothes that often nor do I go clubbing so that's one way of saving. |
| 00:18.30 | Wormy_ | maybe expensive wines of high sophistication |
| 00:19.37 | Monet | I'm told the right wine is down to personal preference. |
| 00:20.19 | Wormy_ | Chateau de La Dauphine is coming down in price but usually has been quite upmarket |
| 00:20.24 | Monet | True toffs will go by a vintage's price tag, true connoisseurs go by the vintage's richness. |
| 00:20.59 | Hachiman | I only buy clothes on a semi-monthly basis and usually wear the same shirt two days in a row while keeping the same set of trousers on for three to four |
| 00:21.12 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: Its like how chavs took burberry from the rich |
| 00:21.57 | Monet | Poor quality knock-offs that abuse the brand? |
| 00:22.06 | Hachiman | inb4 Lambrini |
| 00:22.13 | Wormy_ | Most of my clothes are handed down to me |
| 00:22.15 | Hachiman | Which every toff and their mum drinks |
| 00:22.42 | Wormy_ | I also wear shoes until they fall apart while I;m walking |
| 00:22.53 | Hachiman | Oh, shoes and boots are the things I buy least |
| 00:23.28 | Hachiman | Monet: You need to add the occasional Jaegerbomb and spirit shot into your diet if you want to live a little differently :p |
| 00:23.40 | Wormy_ | ^ |
| 00:23.49 | Wormy_ | Maybe some sambucas too |
| 00:24.25 | Wormy_ | Or go down to the local pub and treat yourself to some pints |
| 00:24.28 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 00:24.39 | Monet | From what I've learned of the brand's usage, real Burberry is like gold detailing while knock-off Burberry is like gold plating. |
| 00:24.54 | Hachiman | Although I actually hate lager and beer and can only stand certain brands of cider nowadays |
| 00:25.00 | Hachiman | So I stick to spirits |
| 00:25.16 | Wormy_ | I usually end the night on spirits but don't stick to them |
| 00:25.21 | Monet | Like a real Burberry jacket will have the pattern on the inner lining only. |
| 00:25.25 | Hachiman | Most ales tend to taste the same to me |
| 00:25.41 | Wormy_ | Huh, no I can differentiate ales quite well |
| 00:25.53 | Wormy_ | But then I've been drinking them for a long time |
| 00:26.04 | Monet | (sorry I'm verifying my snob metamorphosis aren't I?) |
| 00:26.08 | Wormy_ | Have you tried wheatbeer, thats quite different |
| 00:26.11 | Hachiman | Indeed you are hur |
| 00:26.27 | Hachiman | Wormy_: I do not believe I have, though I do like mead a fair amount |
| 00:26.44 | Monet | I go to a college that deals a lot in fashion. It kind of rubbedoff on me. |
| 00:26.55 | Wormy_ | Right, if you come across Hoegaarden, definatly try it out |
| 00:27.11 | *** join/#sporewiki ImpyDroid (~Anders@95.140.92.159) |
| 00:27.44 | Monet | Thing is you say "drink jaegerbombs and spirit bombs to live differently" - don't most young people do that? |
| 00:27.50 | Wormy_ | https://malvernbeerexchange.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/hoegaarden-wit-blanche1.jpg |
| 00:28.04 | Wormy_ | Xho had it after I recommended it and he said "it fucked me up" |
| 00:28.11 | Monet | Same with Sambucas. |
| 00:29.08 | Hachiman | I mean, you don't do it, so it'd be different for you, Mr. First Class Premium Airplane Tickets |
| 00:29.28 | Monet | Actually I have downed jaegerbombs. |
| 00:30.21 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.37 | Hachiman | Whoa |
| 00:30.48 | Hachiman | Most of my media class liked to go out and get shitfaced |
| 00:30.53 | Hachiman | And plenty of them were kinda nerdy |
| 00:30.53 | Wormy_ | I remember playing yucky drinking games with jaegerbombs being spilled everywhere and swapping drinks back when I started at Leicester |
| 00:30.55 | Monet | Most of them would rather spend their Friday nights playing Overwatch or LoL. |
| 00:31.09 | Wormy_ | Geology students love beer |
| 00:31.20 | Hachiman | Wormy_: Still do that hur |
| 00:31.42 | Hachiman | Alcohol's pretty safe to pass around and drink actually since it's, well, alcohol and that kills most bacteria |
| 00:31.58 | Wormy_ | In fact one of our lecturers would bring us to the pub after his lecture. And the local society would bring cans of lager into the classroom |
| 00:32.12 | Wormy_ | More worried about viruses hur |
| 00:33.09 | Wormy_ | https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/07/03/bc/0703bc3c5f41e4b840679d7a5ef40f08.jpg |
| 00:33.17 | Monet | That and alcohol doesn't quite kill microbes as it's made from yeast by way of metabolising sugars. |
| 00:33.30 | Hachiman | Ah yeah |
| 00:34.02 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: Thing is though, at the pub I've found myself sharing drinks anyway, or losing mine and picking the wrong one |
| 00:34.27 | Wormy_ | I seem to lose care about that |
| 00:34.28 | Hachiman | Oh I always keep an eye on my drink, no matter how shitfaced I am, or leave it with someone I can trust when I need to excuse myself |
| 00:34.33 | Monet | The alcohol used to clean the biology labs is 75% level |
| 00:35.12 | Hachiman | Nothing worse than somebody else picking up your drink and downing it for you while your back's turned |
| 00:35.21 | Monet | And yeah never take your eyes off your drink be it in a pub or a club. |
| 00:35.22 | ImpyDroid | Cyrannian|STO: Share my non-drinking national traitor pain |
| 00:35.35 | Wormy_ | Yeah, especially if you just bought a pint at last orders |
| 00:36.11 | Monet | You may turn around for a moment, come back and the next sip takes you to the land of talking lampposts. |
| 00:36.21 | Hachiman | I have a pub in my town that runs until like 3AM while others last until around 1 or 2 |
| 00:36.42 | Wormy_ | My town had one, but it changed owners and they now shut at 12 |
| 00:36.48 | Hachiman | Pansies hur |
| 00:36.55 | Wormy_ | There is one pub that sometimes stays open till 2 |
| 00:37.09 | Monet | Either the land of talking lampposts, or the toilet bowl. |
| 00:37.27 | Wormy_ | My town is notable for its many pubs |
| 00:37.41 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.06 | Monet | "It's like Starbucks only for alcoholics" |
| 00:38.26 | Hachiman | olol |
| 00:38.45 | Wormy_ | My liver has started ache lately if I drink more than a pint, so I'm a bit worried. Could be my anxiety, or maybe I should lay off more than drinking moderately |
| 00:39.22 | Monet | I'm told the occasional drink can have health benefits. |
| 00:39.31 | Monet | Emphasis on occasional |
| 00:39.47 | ImpyDroid | Duh |
| 00:40.03 | Wormy_ | I'm expecting to wake up yellow if I'm not careful |
| 00:40.13 | Monet | I don't mean "drink more you get hammered" |
| 00:40.42 | Monet | A small but regular amount of alcohol might have potential health benefits. |
| 00:40.42 | ImpyDroid | Am I the only person who usually does not drink on the grounds of "I may have to study or do something productive tomorrow" |
| 00:40.52 | Hachiman | I mean, I remember reaching around 1% or 2% alcohol content in my blood on Christmas Eve and woke up in a bed full of vomit while feeling like death for all of Christmas and Boxing Day |
| 00:40.55 | ImpyDroid | And only drinks when certain there won't be any work tomorrow |
| 00:41.06 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Boxing Day? |
| 00:41.10 | ImpyDroid | That sounds cool |
| 00:41.13 | Hachiman | Day after Christmas |
| 00:41.14 | Wormy_ | I've actually laid off drinking at all |
| 00:41.17 | Hachiman | And no, it does not involve boxing |
| 00:41.19 | ImpyDroid | Oh |
| 00:41.25 | ImpyDroid | Ah boxing as in boxes |
| 00:41.26 | Monet | ImpyDroid: Drink a single glass with dinner. You'll be fine unless you're a total lightweight. |
| 00:41.35 | Wormy_ | just for a couple of weeks |
| 00:41.43 | Hachiman | Which, given that Imp doesn't drink, he most probably is hur |
| 00:41.52 | ImpyDroid | I do drink |
| 00:42.00 | ImpyDroid | Not often but I do drink |
| 00:42.26 | Monet | So his body is familiar to der pisswasser. |
| 00:42.31 | ImpyDroid | Stuff like... what is it called in English... glintwine? |
| 00:42.48 | ImpyDroid | The hot wine mix thing |
| 00:43.05 | Wormy_ | My worst hangover was when I came back from the Scottish Isle of Arran with some students, I had been drunk on whiskey the night before, had to go on a ferry and travel all day on the train. Felt sick as a dog. |
| 00:43.16 | Monet | ImpyDroid: You mean Mulled wine? |
| 00:43.30 | Monet | Cool |
| 00:43.32 | ImpyDroid | That is it |
| 00:43.38 | ImpyDroid | The most I have ever drunk was on Lunar New Year |
| 00:44.06 | Monet | So I'm guessing you can handle the taste. |
| 00:44.06 | ImpyDroid | But it was a big party so I, well, *had* to |
| 00:44.16 | Wormy_ | Did you laugh at things for no real reason? |
| 00:44.30 | ImpyDroid | I do not need alcohol for that |
| 00:44.49 | ImpyDroid | Shit I do not need alcohol for being stupid |
| 00:44.52 | Wormy_ | ...You'll know what I mean when you experience that state |
| 00:44.59 | ImpyDroid | In general |
| 00:45.23 | ImpyDroid | Now you made me want to drink |
| 00:45.30 | ImpyDroid | Congratulations hur |
| 00:45.47 | Wormy_ | I want a drink too |
| 00:45.48 | Monet | If you can handle the taste of your alcohol, then an easy way to enjoy it and not become Barney Gumble is do what the French do - drink with a meal. |
| 00:46.10 | Wormy_ | Or, drink with a meal and then go on a boozer |
| 00:46.22 | Wormy_ | The meal helps absorb some of the alcohol |
| 00:46.46 | Hachiman | Or you down a load of shots before going on the piss, crawling between pubs, and ending the night with a visit to the chippy, a taxi home, and a bedside glass of water for your hangover |
| 00:47.17 | Monet | I had a glass of pinot today and because I had it with my dinner I'm not even slightly tipsy. |
| 00:47.27 | Wormy_ | Well when one is drunk its easy to get hungry for snacks |
| 00:47.43 | Hachiman | I can only eat the food from my local chip shops when I'm pissed |
| 00:47.44 | Wormy_ | I might chips or supernoodles |
| 00:47.48 | Hachiman | Otherwise it tastes horrendous |
| 00:47.48 | Technobliterator | Eh, alcohol is pointless |
| 00:48.05 | Wormy_ | ey up, resident nhilist |
| 00:48.07 | Hachiman | ur pointless |
| 00:48.26 | Hachiman | "hey how about we replace alcohol with nanomachines and humans with robots right guys" |
| 00:48.29 | Monet | I don't drink to get twatted. |
| 00:48.32 | Technobliterator | I uh |
| 00:48.35 | Technobliterator | Never said that |
| 00:48.44 | Wormy_ | Mon: I kind of do for the most part :/ |
| 00:49.08 | Technobliterator | I don't drink, slows protein synthesis |
| 00:49.17 | Hachiman | What are you, a fucking plant |
| 00:49.22 | Wormy_ | It causes cancer |
| 00:49.34 | Technobliterator | Among other problems |
| 00:49.41 | Technobliterator | just not worth it |
| 00:49.57 | Wormy_ | I think its pretty pointless to be tee-total as well |
| 00:49.57 | Hachiman | Monet: I drink to get twatted and to forget the purposelessness and insignificance of my short, meaningless spark of existence that I shall never have a second chance of reliving and improving |
| 00:50.03 | Hachiman | But mostly to get twatted |
| 00:50.15 | Wormy_ | One could live a healthy, untainted life and still die of cancer early |
| 00:50.59 | Technobliterator | I just like living healthier and feeling better about myself |
| 00:51.25 | Wormy_ | Most of the runners in my running group like their booze |
| 00:51.32 | Wormy_ | We even have pub runs |
| 00:52.44 | Wormy_ | I get twatted because it lifts me from my inhibitions and anxieties for a short while |
| 00:52.55 | Monet | Thing is the human body is designed to handle some amount of alcohol. |
| 00:53.38 | Monet | The problem is a lot of people don't how their limits or don't care. |
| 00:54.13 | Wormy_ | Well, herbivores and omnivores have always eaten fermenting fruits and meat |
| 00:54.29 | Monet | Red wine is healthy in some respects - it's rich in antioxidants. |
| 00:56.03 | Monet | But I suppose you can also get that same benefit drinking cranberry juice. |
| 00:56.20 | Wormy_ | Without as much risk |
| 00:56.48 | Wormy_ | Better start making fruit smoothies out of blueberries and goji berries |
| 00:56.59 | Monet | I like the flavour of the occasional glass of wine but that's just me. |
| 00:58.43 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: I read that in Kyras's voice |
| 00:58.57 | Hachiman | hur |
| 00:59.12 | Hachiman | BEER FOR THE BEER GOD, SHOTS FOR THE SHOT THRONE |
| 00:59.28 | ImpyDroid | Technobliterator: The two non-drinking Eastern Europeans |
| 00:59.35 | ImpyDroid | Excellent, we are both traitors |
| 00:59.48 | ImpyDroid | Cyrannian is another traitor but he ran away |
| 01:00.22 | ImpyDroid | Frankly with our lifestyles many of us will die young either way so who cares |
| 01:00.43 | ImpyDroid | I certainly will, weak immune system will kill me one day |
| 01:01.48 | Monet | Sitting at a PC all day isn't that healthy. |
| 01:01.56 | ImpyDroid | Exactly my point |
| 01:02.21 | Wormy_ | Thats why I run these days |
| 01:02.27 | ImpyDroid | Gah cannot decide what to do 20 |
| 01:02.42 | Monet | Then again I myself am an endurance walker |
| 01:02.56 | ImpyDroid | There will be a Korean Independence Day party, a zombie flashmob |
| 01:03.03 | ImpyDroid | And a vegan fest |
| 01:03.12 | ImpyDroid | (I want dem falafels) |
| 01:03.22 | Wormy_ | Are you implying vegans will bring the apocalypse? |
| 01:03.44 | ImpyDroid | And free Korea |
| 01:04.01 | ImpyDroid | Then Kim Jong Un will save the day |
| 01:04.17 | Wormy_ | Free Korea from Jim Jong Un or free Korea from US Imperalist Aggressors? |
| 01:04.28 | Wormy_ | Okay I guessed so |
| 01:04.47 | Wormy_ | There won't be much meat to go around when we're all red |
| 01:07.48 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer Hachiman: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0nM4zGXoCFM/TFkWNYHd6rI/AAAAAAAAAmM/brTtjko1EVw/s1600/ME3_TaliZorah_v2.jpg True Quarian face |
| 01:08.16 | Hachiman | pls no |
| 01:08.29 | Wormy_ | my dreams are ruined |
| 01:08.37 | *** join/#sporewiki Quark8 (49c685a7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.198.133.167) |
| 01:09.00 | AdmiralPanda | everyone knows quarians look like generic human stock photo models |
| 01:09.06 | DrodoEmpire | Its been a while- |
| 01:09.06 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 01:09.32 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, I was about to mention- wasn't there actually a somewhat controversial photograph of an unmasked quarian in one game? >.< |
| 01:09.49 | Monet | There was a picture of Tali in 3 |
| 01:09.54 | ImpyDroid | http://www.fanpup.me/uploads/2/3/5/9/23592480/362726.png?317 That one I like |
| 01:09.56 | DrodoEmpire | That's it |
| 01:09.56 | AdmiralPanda | mhm, and the stock photo was found on the internet a few days later :P |
| 01:10.05 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... |
| 01:10.16 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid: Still generic humanoid |
| 01:10.21 | Hachiman | But then, so are asari |
| 01:10.43 | Hachiman | But then, asari are kind of excused because turians see them as looking like turians and salarians see them as looking like salarians |
| 01:10.53 | Monet | Although maybe it was a goof when you consider QUarian legs. |
| 01:10.56 | AdmiralPanda | because pheremones and mindfuckery :P |
| 01:10.59 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 01:11.58 | Monet | What do Asari look like? "Whatever you want them to be!" |
| 01:12.04 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, does anyone else know of the new game 'Oriental Empires'? |
| 01:12.13 | ImpyDroid | Eormy_: http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/t_original/ruqyne7idydk3h50rbva.jpg Actually fits him well |
| 01:12.19 | Monet | Anyway goodnight |
| 01:12.23 | DrodoEmpire | Its a 4x game focused on China/Mongolia, looks really really good so far |
| 01:12.31 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Very hard to make them pretty and non-generic at the same time |
| 01:12.57 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: Okay that sounds interesting |
| 01:13.06 | DrodoEmpire | Superficially looks like Civ, but plays waaay differently |
| 01:13.25 | DrodoEmpire | Has all kinds of China-specific mechanics like becoming emperor and the Mandate of Heaven |
| 01:13.34 | *** join/#sporewiki Quark8_ (49c685a7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.198.133.167) |
| 01:13.40 | DrodoEmpire | The philosophical differences between Taoism, Confucianism, etc. |
| 01:13.54 | Hachiman | Do I get to play as a Khan and ravage and pillage the Chinese and Middle East with my army of unified horse warriors? |
| 01:13.58 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 01:14.02 | DrodoEmpire | You can play as nomads |
| 01:14.10 | Hachiman | Nice |
| 01:14.14 | AdmiralPanda | hte Mandate of Heaven is one of my favourite concepts ever, because it can be used to justify just about anything |
| 01:14.26 | DrodoEmpire | Armour and units would look at home at a recent Total War game (which is *absolutely* a compliment, Attila looks incredible) and're really accurate |
| 01:14.36 | DrodoEmpire | *Total War: Attila that is |
| 01:15.02 | Hachiman | Do you get to play as Japan/ |
| 01:15.03 | Hachiman | ? |
| 01:15.09 | DrodoEmpire | As far as I know, no |
| 01:15.13 | Hachiman | Bugger |
| 01:15.18 | DrodoEmpire | We don't know how moddable it is, though |
| 01:15.36 | DrodoEmpire | I'd *love* to see mods or expansions add like Tibet, Korea, Japan, Vietnam, etc. |
| 01:15.42 | Quark8 | What game is this? |
| 01:15.49 | DrodoEmpire | 'Oriental Empires' |
| 01:15.51 | Hachiman | Oriental Empires |
| 01:15.52 | DrodoEmpire | Coming out in September |
| 01:16.35 | Quark8 | Cool. |
| 01:16.48 | Hachiman | I wonder if they will ad more content to it overtime after release based on how successful it will be |
| 01:16.53 | DrodoEmpire | I hope they do |
| 01:17.06 | DrodoEmpire | And, honestly, they're gonna make a fucking *fortune* off of total war people |
| 01:17.24 | DrodoEmpire | The TW community's been asking for a China: Total War since TW was a thing |
| 01:17.43 | DrodoEmpire | This isn't Total War, but its one of the few China-centered games being made for western consumption |
| 01:17.45 | Hachiman | I wanna finally see a full on battle between Mongolian horse-warriors and Japanese cavalrymen |
| 01:17.49 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:18.08 | DrodoEmpire | I mean, EUIV has that but battles are more like a game of risk, not very visual |
| 01:18.41 | DrodoEmpire | Lots of modifiers to influence, generals, terrain, etc. but yeah no tactical control battle-to-batt;e |
| 01:18.55 | DrodoEmpire | Still hilarious to beat a low-tech army when you're outnumbered two to one though >.< |
| 01:19.01 | Hachiman | hur |
| 01:19.13 | DrodoEmpire | Actually I have this screenshot for this really dumb mod I made once |
| 01:19.17 | DrodoEmpire | Lemme see if I can find it |
| 01:19.35 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh actually nvm |
| 01:20.54 | Quark8 | What mod was it? |
| 01:22.06 | DrodoEmpire | Basically the mod increased the income, forcelimit (how many troops that can be fielded at once without additional financial penalties) by like hundreds of thousands of percent |
| 01:22.18 | DrodoEmpire | Which resulted in small countries having like hundreds of thousands of troops |
| 01:22.41 | Quark8 | Ah. |
| 01:22.44 | DrodoEmpire | However I threw a curveball- one country in the world had no benefit except for having maxed-out tech at the very beginning of the game |
| 01:23.00 | DrodoEmpire | So 32/32/32, all post-napoleonic tech while the rest of the world's in the late middle ages |
| 01:23.42 | Quark8 | Would it be random or did you select it? |
| 01:23.58 | DrodoEmpire | I had to select it, but had I put a bit of effort in to it I could've made it randomised |
| 01:24.08 | DrodoEmpire | I made it a small one-province country- Navarra |
| 01:24.24 | DrodoEmpire | I had three-thousand max-tech, max-ideas infantrymen fight like 140 000 native american infantry (who start at level 1 everything) |
| 01:24.40 | Quark8 | Oh wow. |
| 01:25.06 | DrodoEmpire | Not only did the three-thousand troops win *on the attack*, they only took like 500 losses to *tens of thousands* of native losses |
| 01:25.12 | DrodoEmpire | In like a two-week long battle |
| 01:25.15 | Quark8 | Lol. |
| 01:25.44 | DrodoEmpire | Europe's not much better, mind you- they start at lvl 3 which is just about as primitive, but they have a *much* better tech group |
| 01:26.10 | DrodoEmpire | (tech group determines unit set and tech research penalty [western European has 0% penalty]) |
| 01:26.19 | Quark8 | Ok. |
| 01:26.32 | Quark8 | That reminds me, I should play more EUIV. |
| 01:26.39 | DrodoEmpire | Oh you play it too? |
| 01:26.58 | Quark8 | Yeah. Most of the *main* Paradox games. |
| 01:27.03 | DrodoEmpire | Nice, nice |
| 01:27.13 | Quark8 | Do you have HOIV? |
| 01:27.14 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah EUIV's probably my favourite paradox games |
| 01:27.17 | DrodoEmpire | Nah, not yet |
| 01:27.27 | DrodoEmpire | How is it? |
| 01:27.33 | DrodoEmpire | (Assuming you have it_ |
| 01:27.34 | Quark8 | I don't have it either. |
| 01:27.35 | DrodoEmpire | *) |
| 01:27.36 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 01:27.39 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 01:28.25 | Quark8 | At the moment I usually play either CK2 or RimWorld (too lazy to redownload EUIV). |
| 01:28.32 | DrodoEmpire | Right, right |
| 01:29.29 | Quark8 | Do you have CK2? |
| 01:33.44 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, though I play little |
| 01:33.49 | DrodoEmpire | http://imgur.com/gallery/vineg |
| 01:49.37 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: It's probably a bad sign for an HoI4 mechanic when the only answer on how to succeed in it is "move literally everything to a border" |
| 01:49.43 | Tek0516 | >.< |
| 01:50.07 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 01:52.33 | Tek0516 | Chinese border war. It involves a vague and undescribed mechanic. First time I had superior numbers on their border and lost immediately. Second time I moved all divisions to the border, was still <50% in a few areas, and won instantly. |
| 01:54.10 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 01:55.47 | Tek0516 | So in short: unexplained mechanic which is extremely confusing, and if you don't have enough troops on the border when it fires you lose it at the end of the day. |
| 01:56.04 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 01:56.23 | Tek0516 | Hello Random |
| 01:59.23 | DrodoEmpire | Sounds like a lot of Paradox games before expansions-patches |
| 01:59.32 | DrodoEmpire | EUIV used to be loaded with unexplained mechanics |
| 01:59.45 | DrodoEmpire | Subsequent patches and UI improvements makes the game ez to understand |
| 01:59.48 | The_Randomness | I don't think I've spotted anything quite like that in Stellaris |
| 02:00.09 | DrodoEmpire | I've never had complaints with Stellaris UI |
| 02:00.20 | DrodoEmpire | I survived EUIV pre-art of war |
| 02:00.21 | DrodoEmpire | I'm good |
| 02:01.43 | Tek0516 | It's so strange because the mechanic itself happens once for China/PRC and for a couple days only. |
| 02:02.06 | DrodoEmpire | Huh... |
| 02:05.23 | The_Randomness | I should really play Stellaris again now that they've patched a lot of stuff and revamped diplomacy |
| 02:05.33 | Tek0516 | Same |
| 02:06.24 | AdmiralPanda | playing it as we speak, and once again regretting including advanced AIs |
| 02:06.34 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh lol |
| 02:06.50 | The_Randomness | actually, if I didn't have to finish my dailies in FFXIV, I would play it right now |
| 02:06.56 | The_Randomness | or I could be smart and play it in queue |
| 02:07.16 | AdmiralPanda | the revamped diplomacy system is interesting but it makes diplomatic victories... difficult |
| 02:07.41 | The_Randomness | Also, Panda, I've got like 50% of the next session planned out |
| 02:07.53 | The_Randomness | gdi right as I start it up queue pops |
| 02:08.10 | AdmiralPanda | ... you've had a lot of time mate |
| 02:10.41 | The_Randomness | this is true |
| 02:11.22 | Tek0516 | AdmiralPanda: I forget, what do advanced AIs do? |
| 02:11.30 | AdmiralPanda | they have a bullshit technological lead |
| 02:11.59 | AdmiralPanda | as in, they have a whole host of T1 and some T2 techs unlocked from the start, on top of economy bonuses |
| 02:12.14 | Wormy_ | night |
| 02:13.11 | AdmiralPanda | they also either start with a free colony right away or a free colony ship |
| 02:13.12 | Tek0516 | AdmiralPanda: http://www.stellariswiki.com/Settings#AI_empires Huh. Yeah, I can see why they count as advanced. O.o |
| 02:14.01 | AdmiralPanda | welp, I just lost hte game to an advanced AI because the combat system sucked and I lost my fleet fighting crystals |
| 02:14.14 | Tek0516 | O.o |
| 02:14.18 | AdmiralPanda | god fucking damnit why don't ships focus fire? |
| 02:15.14 | AdmiralPanda | I had a ~1k strength fleet against a ~1k crystal fleet, my ships had shields and laser weapons so by all rights I should have won, but no, dumb fucking pilots can't focus down ships so I lose my entire navy while only killing one of three clusters |
| 02:15.40 | AdmiralPanda | then advanced AI comes along with double the fleet strength I had *before* I lost my entire fleet |
| 02:16.54 | AdmiralPanda | in other words, I genuinely just lost the game to factors I had no control over |
| 02:23.26 | The_Randomness | wow |
| 02:25.01 | AdmiralPanda | I need to figure out how one actually goes about creating mods, see if I can't find a way to code ships to focus already damaged craft |
| 02:25.17 | AdmiralPanda | improve the AI's targeting a bit... or a lot |
| 02:25.39 | The_Randomness | ok, time to play Stellaris for a bit before doing some more work on the next session |
| 02:28.19 | DrodoEmpire | AdmiralPanda: or you can play EUIV and blob across the world with armies that have more arty than inf <.< |
| 02:28.29 | DrodoEmpire | Well, two more arty than inf to be exact |
| 02:29.02 | DrodoEmpire | Best lategame comp is literally full row of inf in the front except for two cav on the extreme ends of the flanks and a full backrow of artillery |
| 02:29.26 | AdmiralPanda | thing is, the combat system at a fundamental level is pretty solid, it's just a couple of glaring stupid things |
| 02:29.49 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 02:29.55 | AdmiralPanda | once you get to late game shit like this doesn't happen because everyone's squaring off with super long-range weapons mixed in with strike craft |
| 02:30.40 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 02:31.26 | AdmiralPanda | target priority doesn't tend to matter as much because of how long it takes ships to die period, but when you're in the corvette blob phase when casualties are a fact it's a glaring problem |
| 02:31.53 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... |
| 02:33.11 | The_Randomness | sweet, now I can get rid of some more of these stupid tile blockers |
| 02:34.35 | AdmiralPanda | the funny thing is, I'm fine even playing this game on insane difficulty, I'm good enough generally that I can keep up with the AI and easily overtake them if I'm being aggressive, it's just that elevated start platform that really fucks you when advanced AI are involved |
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| 02:37.50 | DrodoEmpire | Rit |
| 02:37.51 | DrodoEmpire | *Rite |
| 02:37.53 | DrodoEmpire | Hi Charles |
| 02:38.05 | Charles_Bot | Hey |
| 02:43.10 | The_Randomness | aw man, there's this nice habitable planet, but there's a pre-sentient species on it |
| 02:43.36 | The_Randomness | oh, and it's within another empire's space |
| 02:44.15 | Tybusen | Just blow up all the cities/villages, I'm sure it'll be fine |
| 02:44.27 | The_Randomness | wrong game? :P |
| 02:45.09 | Tybusen | I've always wondered how the Galactic Code in Spore has pretty much no problem with you genociding a pre-Space species |
| 02:45.19 | Tybusen | Or genociding people in general actually |
| 02:45.31 | The_Randomness | yeah |
| 02:45.52 | Tybusen | But convert them all to your religion and suddenly everyone loses their minds |
| 02:48.13 | The_Randomness | yeah |
| 02:48.36 | The_Randomness | gameplay in Spore was goofy |
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| 02:51.58 | DrodoEmpire | Back |
| 02:52.13 | DrodoEmpire | You can still invade primitives on Stellaris if you have the right ideologies and stuff Randomness |
| 02:52.46 | The_Randomness | yeah |
| 02:53.04 | The_Randomness | main thing is that it's in another nation's space |
| 02:53.39 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 03:00.51 | The_Randomness | yay adaptive bureaucracy |
| 03:17.20 | The_Randomness | ok, I'm off for tonight, bye guys |
| 03:31.45 | DrodoEmpire | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cpgjm6AWYAEwBE2.jpg:large |
| 03:37.30 | DrodoEmpire | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpcFfi-WcAEADDO.jpg:large |
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| 10:18.11 | Liquid_Ink | http://65.media.tumblr.com/988cc342bf08a79f93eb2a8884cbfb93/tumblr_nyam525NZV1sf0goto1_1280.jpg |
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| 11:21.29 | Imperios | Hi |
| 11:21.36 | Imperios | Liquid_Ink: https://2ch.hk/po/src/17702185/14708394371180.webm Why you don't wave American flags in Russia |
| 11:22.10 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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| 11:22.41 | Liquid_Ink_ | Imperios: Oh dear |
| 11:43.54 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/QOkmh |
| 11:44.06 | Liquid_Ink_ | That's pretty neat |
| 11:46.46 | Wormy_ | This is the dumbest post http://imgur.com/gallery/k727R |
| 11:47.16 | Liquid_Ink_ | Much dumb |
| 11:49.17 | Wormy_ | Veganism done properly is as good as any other diet |
| 11:50.16 | Wormy_ | I like how one person at least commented they were lactose intolerant so had no dairy |
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| 11:59.06 | Wormy_ | And this is stupid post, I think thats an oil they are rubbing into his muscles so its not like they just came on him and he's a victim (though the women might be enjoying it, lol) http://imgur.com/gallery/plxrN |
| 12:00.36 | Liquid_Ink_ | When a woman won a gold medal, they congradulated her trainer. |
| 12:01.12 | Liquid_Ink_ | When another woman won a gold medal, the headlines weren't "[Her name] wins gold medal" but "wife of footballer wins gold medal" |
| 12:01.27 | Wormy_ | Imgur's being Imder today |
| 12:01.35 | Wormy_ | *Imduh |
| 12:01.44 | Wormy_ | *Imdur |
| 12:02.04 | Liquid_Ink_ | The news' coverage of the Olympics is misogynistic. A shirtless guy doesn't suddenly make it balanced. |
| 12:02.27 | Wormy_ | I agree, and I think its also the wrong context. The oil is the clue |
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| 12:04.44 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 12:06.03 | Wormy_ | I've seen this film http://imgur.com/gallery/fag4q |
| 12:06.31 | Wormy_ | Psychopathic murderous girlfriend who captures men, tortures them while covering them in glitter |
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| 12:11.32 | Wormy_ | badgers are dangerous creatures http://imgur.com/gallery/59r3R |
| 12:11.34 | Monet | Hello |
| 12:14.11 | Monet | That they are |
| 12:14.31 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:17.56 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 12:19.27 | Monet | Hi |
| 12:30.15 | Monet | Everyone's dying! |
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| 12:32.47 | Liquid_Ink_ | We got one back |
| 12:36.58 | Monet | Hooray the NHS comes through again! |
| 12:37.34 | Liquid_Ink_ | Thank Chairman Corbyn |
| 12:38.59 | Monet | Yeah about that... |
| 12:40.45 | Monet | Owen Smith might be Labour's next leader |
| 12:40.58 | Liquid_Ink_ | Pff. |
| 12:41.38 | Monet | It's a might |
| 12:42.31 | Liquid_Ink_ | I'm going to embrace optimism here. |
| 12:43.02 | Liquid_Ink_ | Optimism has almost always betrayed me, but maybe it'll be nice. |
| 12:43.23 | Liquid_Ink_ | I'm off to bed now, goodnight! |
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| 12:45.25 | Treebeard | Hello |
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| 13:22.38 | Imperios | Wormy_: The only real problem AFAIK is the lack of one particular vitamin |
| 13:22.54 | Imperios | (problem with veganism) |
| 13:24.11 | Wormy_ | B12 I believe, yes one of my relatives is anaemic so had to give veganism up |
| 13:24.46 | Wormy_ | But most of the comments on that post were extremely ignorant |
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| 13:30.03 | Wormy | kiwiirc is horrible looking |
| 13:30.55 | test | seen Wormy_ |
| 13:30.55 | test | wat |
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| 13:40.08 | Hachiman | Feck |
| 13:41.14 | Wormy_ | Hachi: Sword fighting granny http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-37038134 |
| 13:43.03 | Hachiman | I heard about that |
| 13:43.07 | Hachiman | It's pretty cool |
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| 14:47.34 | Cyrannian | Hi |
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| 14:51.22 | Cyrannian | bbl |
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| 15:11.07 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 15:11.51 | dino82_ | hi |
| 15:13.48 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 15:14.06 | Cyrannian|Busy | Hai dino |
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| 15:19.05 | dino82_ | hoz all dong! |
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| 15:24.41 | DrodoEmpire | I'm doing well |
| 15:25.04 | dino82_ | great to hear! |
| 16:04.16 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=81345&page=1 And I thought it was just our Church who was doing that |
| 16:04.35 | Hachiman | hur |
| 16:05.18 | Imperios | >Other symbols include "crosses, sacred for Christians, triangles significant for Freemasons and symbols of Japan's Shintoism, which is based on the belief in more than one god," said the edict from the Higher Committee for Scientific Research and Islamic Law. |
| 16:05.24 | Imperios | THE GAME IS SATANIC |
| 16:05.27 | Imperios | BECAUSE IT HAS TRIANGLES |
| 16:08.01 | OluapPlayer | alluminium confirmed |
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| 16:34.16 | Tek0516 | Imperios: "Ever since the Pokémon phenomenon hit the market three years ago" They actually say three years multiple times and I don't know if it's a typo or fact checking fail. >.>> |
| 16:37.06 | Tek0516 | I also find them criticising a Japanese game containing Japanese symbols rather amusing. :P |
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| 16:50.46 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 16:50.51 | Cyrannian|Busy | Hello |
| 16:51.24 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 16:51.53 | Charles_Bot | My supervisor asked me for my analysis of two big constituent letters I wrote; I sent him a novel in response xD |
| 16:58.11 | Hachiman | Wormy_ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc04xiqgeCw |
| 16:59.37 | drom | Imperios: http://imgur.com/account/favorites/L5SZf |
| 17:00.19 | drom | Ugh |
| 17:00.29 | drom | Imperios: Try this if the above link does not work for you. http://imgur.com/account/favorites/L5SZf |
| 17:00.34 | drom | http://imgur.com/a/L5SZf |
| 17:01.38 | Hachiman | So, I've arranged to see Suicide Squad on Saturday with a friend |
| 17:02.09 | Hachiman | I'm going in with low expectations while my friend is hyped for it |
| 17:03.44 | Cyrannian|Busy | I think I'll wait for the DVD |
| 17:03.52 | Imperios | Hachiman: Just have fun |
| 17:04.11 | Imperios | Squeeze fun out of every movie you see |
| 17:04.16 | Imperios | I managed to enjoy the sheer stupidty of Jupiter Ascending |
| 17:04.18 | Cyrannian|Busy | Imperios: http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2016/08/04/russia-confirms-putin-will-represent-nation-in-every-olympic-sport/?utm_source=WWN_Facebook_Page&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=Social_Link&utm_content=Article |
| 17:04.19 | drom | Hachiman: Just like NMS hur |
| 17:04.27 | Imperios | And screamed at the stupidity of Gods of Egypt |
| 17:06.50 | Hachiman | "I feel Suicide Squad lives up to its name because it makes me want to kill myself" |
| 17:07.11 | Imperios | Hachiman: Think Thor |
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| 17:25.49 | Tek0516 | Well, ow. I leaned back in my desk chair, next thing I know the back of the chair bent all the way to the floor, taking me with it. >.< |
| 17:34.14 | drom | Tek0516: Reminds me when I returned to my programming classes two years ago after a Christmas break. |
| 17:34.33 | drom | I forgot how lenint the back support of the chairs were. |
| 17:34.56 | drom | So I quickly fell back screaming thinking I could hit my head. |
| 17:36.26 | Tek0516 | Drom: Well in this case the back of the chair physically gave out. My head was against the floor. (fortunately I wasn't a few inches closer to the wall, otherwise I would have slammed it against a metal vent.) |
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| 17:49.43 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 17:50.53 | The_Randomness | Technobliterator: Did you see the EG vs EHOME game? |
| 17:54.57 | Tek0516 | :/ Yep, that chair is so f***ed it won't even bend back to it's original positionl. |
| 17:55.53 | The_Randomness | that doesn't sound good |
| 17:56.40 | Tek0516 | The_Randomness: 1:36 PM <Tek0516> Drom: Well in this case the back of the chair physically gave out. My head was against the floor. (fortunately I wasn't a few inches closer to the wall, otherwise I would have slammed it against a metal vent.) |
| 17:56.58 | The_Randomness | O_o |
| 17:57.54 | Tek0516 | Leaned back in my chair, and the back leaned all the way to the floor. :/ |
| 17:59.47 | Tek0516 | Not the ideal way to settle down after a day of work. XD |
| 18:00.30 | The_Randomness | Indeed, it's good that you're alright though |
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| 18:38.37 | Tek0516 | Trying to decide what to do in my Stellaris game. Thinking either spiritualists with psionics, or go with AI and then purge the organics. |
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| 18:57.50 | dino82_ | hi, back |
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| 19:05.10 | Monet | Hi |
| 19:06.44 | Monet | Read up there is an increasing number of measles cases |
| 19:07.53 | The_Randomness | oh dear |
| 19:08.51 | Monet | According to the BBC the number of reported cases between January and June has gone up from 54 in 2015 to 234 in 2016 |
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| 19:09.31 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 19:09.42 | Monet | Hi |
| 19:10.03 | The_Randomness | I bet that's from idiots choosing not to get their kids vaccinated |
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| 19:11.08 | Monet2 | It is - most festival cases are from attendees who haven't been vaccinated |
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| 19:12.43 | Monet2 | Apparently there's a minority who are symptomatic but still go to a festival |
| 19:12.49 | The_Randomness | ... |
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| 19:13.22 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 19:13.25 | DrodoEmpire | Hi Quark |
| 19:13.27 | The_Randomness | Hey Quark |
| 19:13.39 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah anti-vaccination people are, well, are wrong |
| 19:13.43 | Monet2 | Hi |
| 19:14.09 | The_Randomness | yeah, anti-vaxxers make my blood boil |
| 19:14.22 | DrodoEmpire | Still, mandatory vaccinations are a bit of a flip-flop issue for me- should the state be allowed to *force* people to do this? I don't know, as a libertarian |
| 19:14.24 | DrodoEmpire | At the same time |
| 19:14.35 | Monet2 | Well this is going to be the latest proof anti vaxxers are mistaken |
| 19:15.02 | DrodoEmpire | Does someone really have the right to do something as dangerous as not get vaccinated, and then risk the safety of others when they contract a deadly disease? |
| 19:15.42 | DrodoEmpire | Is it ethical to put one's children at risk of catching a preventable, deadly disease? Would you be violating their right to safety in that case? |
| 19:15.45 | DrodoEmpire | Complex issue |
| 19:15.59 | OluapPlayer | u gon get the needle boi |
| 19:16.23 | The_Randomness | Monet2: Do we really need any more proof? There's oodles of evidence towards the safety and efficacy of vaccines, and all they've got going for them is a fraudulent paper and a bunch of baseless beliefs |
| 19:16.32 | The_Randomness | Beliefs which endanger other people |
| 19:17.00 | DrodoEmpire | Its not like *more* proof is bad Random |
| 19:17.02 | DrodoEmpire | Chill |
| 19:17.02 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 19:17.08 | The_Randomness | I know :P |
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| 19:17.46 | DrodoEmpire | Hi dino |
| 19:19.07 | dino82_ | hi connection felll away :d |
| 19:19.16 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 19:19.49 | Monet | I think what it's going to take is a rising number of cases coinciding with a falling vaccination rate |
| 19:19.53 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: Gonna have to disagree with you bud, I think the state should be allowed to enforce mandatory vaccinations if children that have not been vaccined put others at harm |
| 19:20.09 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not saying I'm out-and-out against it |
| 19:20.11 | The_Randomness | Yeah, I'm with Hachi here |
| 19:20.13 | DrodoEmpire | I never ever said that |
| 19:20.16 | The_Randomness | yeah |
| 19:20.36 | DrodoEmpire | All I said is that, as a libertarian, its a complicated issue, as any granting of state power is |
| 19:20.46 | Hachiman | I know, but the issue is less complex than what it really is and there's no real beneficial arguments to NOT getting your kid vaccined |
| 19:21.08 | Hachiman | Or vaccinated, whatever |
| 19:21.09 | DrodoEmpire | Which is why I'm more inclined to support mandatory vaccinations |
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| 19:21.20 | DrodoEmpire | But I can't just throw my lot in entirely |
| 19:21.23 | Luxor | Goooood evening |
| 19:21.35 | Luxor | I come here because of grammar confusion. |
| 19:21.40 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, okay |
| 19:21.41 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 19:22.00 | Luxor | Am I to write 'among few man was' or different form? |
| 19:22.15 | Luxor | I'm just not sure about 'was'. |
| 19:22.16 | DrodoEmpire | No, that doesn't make much grammatical sense |
| 19:22.22 | The_Randomness | Yeah, that doesn't make any sense at all |
| 19:22.26 | DrodoEmpire | Unless... |
| 19:22.29 | Luxor | ...any clues? |
| 19:22.29 | Hachiman | "among few men were" |
| 19:22.35 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 19:22.36 | dino82_ | @hachi: Actually there is a moral argument, you cannot enforce any medical treatment upon anyone (vaccinations fall in that category as well), unless a doctor declares someone unfti to make decisions on their own |
| 19:23.00 | Luxor | Can I use that if I am referring to a single person? |
| 19:23.03 | Hachiman | And children are fit to make their own decisions? :P |
| 19:23.06 | DrodoEmpire | Using a semi-libertarian lens, I can say that its violating a child's right to safety to not get them vaccinated |
| 19:23.17 | Luxor | 'among few men were [name]' |
| 19:23.25 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh |
| 19:23.26 | Luxor | and yes, wrong plural for man. My bad |
| 19:23.39 | The_Randomness | In that case you would use "was" |
| 19:23.39 | Hachiman | I'd say, "among few men was [name]" |
| 19:23.54 | Luxor | Ahh. So plural was the mistake. |
| 19:23.54 | dino82_ | @hachi: No true, their parents should be |
| 19:24.04 | DrodoEmpire | That may be better written as 'among the few men was [whoever]' if you're referring to a specific group |
| 19:24.04 | Luxor | I wouldn't notice that if I didn't ask. |
| 19:24.06 | Imperios | Not sure if "among few man" is correct |
| 19:24.10 | Imperios | *men |
| 19:24.20 | Imperios | MAybe "among these few men" |
| 19:24.23 | dino82_ | but it is interessting to see that the discussion is going on in other coutnries as well, we often have these discussions as well when child diseases rises on schools and turn out people got it who didn't get vaccinated |
| 19:24.29 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: That'd work too |
| 19:24.30 | dino82_ | it is a morale dillema |
| 19:24.34 | Luxor | lol |
| 19:25.00 | Luxor | The sentence I'm trying to build is 'Among few passengers was [insert name here] |
| 19:25.07 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 19:25.22 | The_Randomness | The beginning of that sentence feels awkward |
| 19:25.28 | DrodoEmpire | That could be written as "Among the few passengers was [whoever]" |
| 19:25.28 | Hachiman | I think it's just a case of uneducated people being uneducated and stupid and putting too much faith in conspiracy theorists and faulty, disproven medical professionals |
| 19:25.39 | DrodoEmpire | But that might be a biit clunky |
| 19:25.56 | DrodoEmpire | Hachiman: Yeah anti-vaccination thinking *is* not based in fact |
| 19:25.58 | Luxor | English is more complicated than Polish in many situations |
| 19:25.58 | DrodoEmpire | Absolutely |
| 19:26.01 | Ghelae | I think what Drodo wrote is what you need. |
| 19:26.19 | Ghelae | Also, if you haven't seen, I added my thoughts on that Havoc titanpad. |
| 19:26.19 | DrodoEmpire | It can be Luxor >.< |
| 19:26.23 | DrodoEmpire | Happy to help though |
| 19:26.33 | Luxor | Ghel, I'll check in a minute. |
| 19:26.35 | Hachiman | I remember one guy who published a paper about vaccinations correlating with autism outright admitted sometime later that he was paid to write that paper or something along those lines |
| 19:26.41 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 19:26.41 | Luxor | Just writing first chapter of story :I |
| 19:27.42 | Luxor | Whole Havoc concept got wiped out because of problems, though it is far better now |
| 19:28.31 | Luxor | AFK, I'll come back if I am not sure if what I'm writing is making me a grammar nazi. |
| 19:28.48 | DrodoEmpire | Alright |
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| 19:32.05 | Monet | Hachiman: despite no longer having a scientific career a lot of people still trust his paper yeah. Some see his ejection as martyrdom |
| 19:32.45 | Hachiman | Guy's no martyr; Harambe was a fucking martyr |
| 19:33.31 | Monet | He lost his credentials as a scientist from that fiasco |
| 19:33.42 | The_Randomness | I'm out of the loop here, who's Harambe? |
| 19:34.15 | Luxor | HOW DARE YOU |
| 19:34.22 | Luxor | NOT TO KNOW WHO HARAMBE WAS |
| 19:34.28 | Hachiman | He was a proud, black, silverback gorilla who tried to save a kid that fell into his enclosure but was shot by white patriarchists |
| 19:34.44 | Luxor | Whole internet entered shitstorm period after 'accident' |
| 19:35.00 | Hachiman | It was an assassination, really |
| 19:35.07 | Luxor | it was |
| 19:35.13 | The_Randomness | Now I feel like I'm being memed |
| 19:35.31 | Cyrannian | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/fc/ArcadiaBattlecruiser.png/revision/latest?cb=20160811193411 - c |
| 19:35.34 | OluapPlayer | shitty monkey meme that needs to stop |
| 19:35.37 | Luxor | Tell that to harambe |
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| 19:35.43 | The_Randomness | you say that about every meme zz |
| 19:35.47 | OluapPlayer | Cyrannian: Pretty good |
| 19:35.49 | Hachiman | Cyrannian: Ooh nice |
| 19:35.51 | Monet | You're lucky to not know him. He's only as famous as he is because he was shot |
| 19:35.52 | The_Randomness | Monet: you having connection issues? |
| 19:36.23 | Hachiman | Bit like how Kurt Cobain and Heath Ledger only gained mass popularity when they died |
| 19:36.33 | dino82_ | Nice hsip Cyrannian! |
| 19:36.48 | Hachiman | It's a bit of an odd design for a battlecruiser I feel |
| 19:36.51 | Hachiman | What's it based on? |
| 19:36.59 | Luxor | ...battlecruiser? |
| 19:37.06 | Monet | The_Randomness: I'm on the tube |
| 19:37.08 | Cyrannian | http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/18/17952/AC1.jpg -Mass Effect sheep |
| 19:37.13 | Luxor | I assumed that's a frigate. But design is superb. |
| 19:37.20 | Quark8 | Cyrannian: Cool sheep. |
| 19:37.21 | Hachiman | Ah that's it |
| 19:37.22 | Quark8 | *ship |
| 19:37.23 | The_Randomness | Monet: ahg |
| 19:37.36 | OluapPlayer | Paladian-made calibrations |
| 19:38.07 | dino82_ | nice song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNYlVKMJpT0 |
| 19:38.59 | The_Randomness | brb |
| 19:40.34 | Luxor | dino82_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSCiMbMVDLI |
| 19:41.16 | dino82_ | lol :D |
| 19:41.18 | dino82_ | That was intense |
| 19:42.38 | Luxor | Just a lil' video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nyjpzbRKkw&index=2&list=LL5gvzcAPE9o5Gb0ZEPZJQtA |
| 19:42.51 | Luxor | It cured many ppl from assuming Death Camps were Polish |
| 19:43.04 | dino82_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSk_xOy6Bwc |
| 19:43.46 | Imperios | Luxor: Well there were colloborateurs nearly everywhere |
| 19:43.57 | Luxor | Oh go away |
| 19:43.59 | Imperios | Bandera, Vlasov, Azad Hind |
| 19:44.12 | Luxor | Stepan Bandera was not a Pole |
| 19:44.15 | dino82_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hEDJsABr-k |
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| 19:47.37 | Monet | Harambe's coverage gets on my nerves. Because he's a primate people act like killing him to protect a child is a travesty |
| 19:48.17 | Hachiman | "Maybe they gassed themselves with Zyklon B!" "Who were the Nazis then... fucking aliens?!" |
| 19:48.20 | Hachiman | My sides |
| 19:48.36 | Monet | He's a silverback gorilla - an alpha male |
| 19:54.58 | Monet | Sorry. Gotten tired of hearing about Harambe |
| 19:55.55 | The_Randomness | I think I heard about the original incident, just never connected it to the meme since I just went "oh, whatever" after seeing it in the news |
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| 20:01.43 | Monet2 | It's naive to think a gorilla will adopt and protect any young child that falls into its enclosure |
| 20:02.05 | The_Randomness | Some people thought that? wat |
| 20:02.31 | Monet2 | Because of cases where it has happened |
| 20:03.05 | Monet2 | though I have a suspicion most cases involved female gorillas |
| 20:03.35 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB871SVYMhI |
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| 20:07.50 | Monet | Memes are luke adverts, creepily like adverts |
| 20:09.59 | Monet | In fact I suspect some advertising companies are exploiting memes |
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| 20:11.53 | Monet2 | I mean Internet memes, advertising has been going hand in hand with memetics for decades |
| 20:14.47 | The_Randomness | I can see why you might be able to draw a connection, but I don't necessarily agree |
| 20:15.24 | Monet2 | It's more of a hunch atm |
| 20:16.00 | Monet2 | an advert doesn't have to be well crafted, just memorable |
| 20:16.31 | The_Randomness | Like, in the case an advertisement does become a meme, like, for example, with some of the Old Spice stuff, the focus is shifted away from the product and/or selling the product to amusing permutations of the original video or w/e |
| 20:17.35 | The_Randomness | Yeah, as a byproduct it will end up in additional exposure for the product, but the advertisers don't have any control over whether they have their video go viral or not |
| 20:17.47 | The_Randomness | or become a meme |
| 20:17.49 | Monet2 | What about Got Milk or Go Compare? |
| 20:18.31 | The_Randomness | Haven't heard of the second one, and I don't know enough about the "Got Milk" one to say much |
| 20:18.41 | The_Randomness | Since I'm focusing almost entirely on internet memes here |
| 20:20.09 | Monet2 | There was one Money Supermarket advert that used Snoop Dogg's "smoke weed everyday" |
| 20:21.47 | The_Randomness | Generally stuff like that is poorly executed and just makes the ad worse |
| 20:22.09 | Monet2 | Yeah it didn't last long |
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| 20:25.00 | Monet2 | I think there is increasing incentive to make an advert that is memetic |
| 20:25.46 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah probably |
| 20:25.53 | DrodoEmpire | I've noticed how bizarre adverts are |
| 20:26.03 | Monet2 | Look up Gio Compario orthe Compare Meerkat or |
| 20:26.13 | DrodoEmpire | They don't often actually advertise the product or even discuss it *at all* |
| 20:26.20 | DrodoEmpire | They're just... Strange, and funny |
| 20:26.24 | DrodoEmpire | But it sticks |
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| 20:27.02 | Monet2 | the important element is that it sticks |
| 20:27.31 | Monet2 | even if you mostly remember the weird bit |
| 20:28.37 | Monet2 | I was chatting with a friend today that a lot of car adverts feel like porn |
| 20:30.20 | Monet2 | Lots of sexy angles, smooth motions and or the driver caressing the wheel |
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| 21:11.46 | Monet_2 | So the other night I managed to unlock the lethal poison in Hitman. Let the cyanide tequilas flow lol. |
| 21:11.55 | DrodoEmpire | lol |
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| 21:15.23 | Tybusen | Hello |
| 21:18.39 | DrodoEmpire | hi |
| 21:20.21 | Imperios | Hi |
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| 21:24.01 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 21:24.21 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 22:14.55 | Monet_2 | Well I just saw something fun |
| 22:15.11 | Monet_2 | An advert for Aliens to the tune of the Pokemon theme song. |
| 22:15.36 | DrodoEmpire | wat |
| 22:16.07 | Monet_2 | I'm not sure either. |
| 22:17.55 | Monet_2 | Although it was funny to see a Xenomorph one one of those streaky backgrounds many Anime use to convey action. |
| 22:20.07 | Technobliterator | Who is this Raging something user asking stupid questions on talk pages ._. |
| 22:20.18 | Technobliterator | Why can't he do his own research? |
| 22:20.19 | Hachiman | Some noob |
| 22:23.04 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah some newbie |
| 22:23.19 | DrodoEmpire | Honestly its less grating if he were to ask here |
| 22:23.26 | DrodoEmpire | Someone should direct him here |
| 22:23.46 | Technobliterator | I mean, our project space needs reorganising, but it's stiol |
| 22:23.58 | Technobliterator | easy to find stuff like that out |
| 22:24.26 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah its not too hard |
| 22:26.10 | Imperios | Tybusen: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/3/32/Spodeguy_Emblem.png/revision/latest?cb=20160811222554 Did the Spodeguy emblem |
| 22:26.28 | DrodoEmpire | Ooh nice |
| 22:27.09 | DrodoEmpire | Aww yiss |
| 22:27.19 | DrodoEmpire | Rebels are rising in mainland China |
| 22:27.23 | DrodoEmpire | Ming's gonna get rekt |
| 22:27.33 | Imperios | For a second I thought you were talking about the PRC |
| 22:27.39 | DrodoEmpire | As Korea this is a very very good thing |
| 22:27.41 | DrodoEmpire | No no |
| 22:27.44 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 22:27.50 | DrodoEmpire | Wouldn't be good then |
| 22:28.04 | DrodoEmpire | Only when its virtual 16th century chinese peasants |
| 22:29.04 | Hachiman | Imperios: Spodeguy |
| 22:29.11 | Hachiman | As in, like Doomguy |
| 22:29.25 | Imperios | WE still have no idea how to call that organisation |
| 22:29.29 | Imperios | Basically an alliance of Spodist nations |
| 22:29.30 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah there's like four different revolts- Qi separatists right in Shandong region, Wun separatists near Nanjing, a huge Shu revolt in and around Sichuan I think and some nationalist rebels for Dali |
| 22:29.33 | DrodoEmpire | A non-Chinese state |
| 22:29.57 | DrodoEmpire | Combined they have the potential to overextend and crush the Ming army |
| 22:30.11 | DrodoEmpire | Oh also some Liang separatists near Xi'an |
| 22:30.33 | DrodoEmpire | Time to fund some groups under the table <.< |
| 22:32.30 | Monet_2 | How very European. |
| 22:33.17 | DrodoEmpire | Actually the Europeans universally disliked Chinese rebels during their time of imperialism in China |
| 22:33.19 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 22:33.38 | DrodoEmpire | It was in their interests to have a relatively stable, though weak, Qing dynasty to profit from |
| 22:34.28 | DrodoEmpire | The Boxers and Taipings greatly disturbed the European countries, though some western arms dealers got rich from the Taiping conflict especially |
| 22:34.38 | Imperios | Ohgod the Taiping Rebellion |
| 22:34.53 | DrodoEmpire | Probably the bloodiest war in human history by number of deaths |
| 22:35.07 | Imperios | Just the concept of the state it sought to create is both insane and awesome |
| 22:35.14 | Imperios | Fucking |
| 22:35.20 | Imperios | Egalitarian Chinese Christian theocracy |
| 22:35.32 | DrodoEmpire | Well, quasi-Christian |
| 22:35.35 | DrodoEmpire | Barely |
| 22:35.37 | Imperios | I would come up with that idea on drugs |
| 22:35.46 | Imperios | "ISIS BUT CHINESE AND CHRISTIAN" |
| 22:36.08 | Imperios | "ITS LEADER THINKS HE IS JESUS'S BROTHER" |
| 22:36.15 | DrodoEmpire | The leader had only read a smattering of Christian literature, and that's what the state was based off of |
| 22:36.15 | Technobliterator | oh boy |
| 22:36.21 | DrodoEmpire | But yeah |
| 22:36.21 | Technobliterator | this chat again |
| 22:36.24 | Imperios | "IT LITERALLY SLAUGHTERS EVERYONE BUT CALLS ITSELF THE KINGDOM OF GREAT PEACE' |
| 22:36.28 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 22:36.32 | Imperios | Technobliterator: We're just talking history |
| 22:37.01 | Imperios | And how it can sometimes be crazier than fiction |
| 22:37.10 | DrodoEmpire | The leader thought he was the younger brother of Jesus Christ, had no serious knowledge of Christianity, and his armies, while well-organised for rebels, were unadvanced and very brutal |
| 22:37.13 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 22:37.23 | Imperios | Oh I forgot |
| 22:37.31 | Imperios | "Private property ownership was abolished and all land was held and distributed by the state." |
| 22:37.42 | Imperios | COMMUNIST CHINESE CHRISTIAN THEOCRATIC PROTO-STATE |
| 22:37.47 | DrodoEmpire | Communist before it was cool |
| 22:37.49 | Hachiman | Imperios: The Enlightenment Squad |
| 22:37.50 | DrodoEmpire | Or even existed |
| 22:37.54 | Hachiman | For the Spodeguys |
| 22:38.21 | Imperios | Hachiman: "I'm not going to convert you, I'm just going to preach you really... reallly... bad." |
| 22:38.30 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 22:38.32 | Hachiman | hur |
| 22:38.33 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Mao was a fucking poser |
| 22:38.38 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
| 22:38.47 | Imperios | Taiping, the ORIGINAL Chinese communist |
| 22:38.56 | Imperios | Technobliterator: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Heavenly_Kingdom Just read up |
| 22:39.05 | Imperios | I swear you are not having an acid trip |
| 22:39.06 | Hachiman | Hm |
| 22:39.07 | Imperios | THat really happened |
| 22:39.12 | Hachiman | The Quadrantic Heavenly Kingdoms |
| 22:39.12 | DrodoEmpire | I actually have an awesome Osprey Publishing book on the Taipings |
| 22:39.15 | DrodoEmpire | Wish I had it here |
| 22:39.24 | Imperios | "In his dreams, a bearded man with golden hair and a black robe called himself Jehovah, gave him a sword, and taught him to slay demons beside a younger man whom Hong addressed as "Elder Brother".[11] Hong Xiuquan came to believe that the figures in his dreams were God the Father and Jesus Christ the Son, and that they were revealing his destiny as a slayer of demons." |
| 22:39.34 | DrodoEmpire | Their armies were surprisingly well-organised, and *enormous* |
| 22:39.35 | Technobliterator | Not really interested |
| 22:39.43 | DrodoEmpire | They also used mass-use of child soldiers, sadly |
| 22:40.34 | Imperios | So basically they were Chinese ISIS |
| 22:40.44 | Imperios | Chinese *Christian* *Communist* ISIS |
| 22:40.52 | Hachiman | ARRAHU ACKUBARA |
| 22:40.54 | DrodoEmpire | That'd be an apt comparison |
| 22:40.57 | DrodoEmpire | Well |
| 22:41.02 | DrodoEmpire | In terms of behavior and composition |
| 22:41.11 | DrodoEmpire | Naturally, they're incomparible ideologically |
| 22:41.14 | Imperios | Hachiman: *JESUS AKBAL |
| 22:41.56 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: Couldn't an arab christian still say "Allahu Akbar" though? In all seriousness |
| 22:42.13 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: I believe so, it wouldn't be a commonly said phrase but it could |
| 22:42.16 | DrodoEmpire | "Allah" has come to just mean god, and the god of the bible and the Qur'an are technically the same one I think |
| 22:42.19 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I figured |
| 22:42.26 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 22:42.26 | Imperios | "Allah" is used for the Christian God too |
| 22:42.37 | Imperios | >Society was declared classless and the sexes were declared equal. |
| 22:42.49 | Imperios | > There were separate army units consisting of women only; |
| 22:42.49 | Hachiman | Islam and Christianity are related faiths iirc |
| 22:42.55 | DrodoEmpire | Closely yeah |
| 22:43.00 | Imperios | >At one point, for the first time in Chinese history civil service exams were held for women. |
| 22:43.20 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah there was an entire corps of women |
| 22:43.40 | DrodoEmpire | They protected the capital and took part in fortification/development projects for the most part |
| 22:43.40 | Imperios | Hachiman: Islam is like your ADHD-laden little brother whom you bully but then he lashes at you and shouts incoherently |
| 22:43.50 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
| 22:43.58 | Imperios | So they also supported women's rights |
| 22:44.00 | Imperios | Excellent |
| 22:44.00 | Hachiman | With an extra dosage of Down's Syndrome |
| 22:44.06 | Imperios | Chinese, Christian, Communist, FEMINIST ISIS |
| 22:44.15 | Imperios | That's some TMNT level shit |
| 22:44.24 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: Yeah to their credit they seemed to at least be egalitarian in nature |
| 22:44.24 | Imperios | Hachiman: Well not necessarily Down's Syndrome |
| 22:44.28 | Imperios | As Avicenna can attest |
| 22:44.37 | Imperios | And al-Khwarizmi, and ibn Haldun, etc |
| 22:44.58 | Hachiman | hur |
| 22:45.30 | DrodoEmpire | Aww what |
| 22:45.36 | Imperios | Hm? |
| 22:45.38 | DrodoEmpire | Chinese rebels in my EUIV game are losing |
| 22:45.41 | Imperios | Oh |
| 22:45.45 | Imperios | > Hong declared that God would defend Nanjing, but in June 1864, with Qing forces approaching, he died of food poisoning as the result of eating wild vegetables |
| 22:45.50 | Imperios | >he died of food poisoning as the result of eating wild vegetables |
| 22:45.51 | Imperios | Top kek |
| 22:46.24 | Hachiman | Heavenly Kingdoms of Spodist Enlightenment, or something |
| 22:47.45 | Hachiman | That reminds me |
| 22:47.49 | Imperios | That does not really work because that organisation does not aspire to be a *state* |
| 22:47.52 | Hachiman | Still gotta work on my Spodist military guys |
| 22:47.55 | Imperios | It's like the EU at the very best |
| 22:48.58 | DrodoEmpire | Got the 'Second Literati Purge' event |
| 22:49.15 | DrodoEmpire | It was over having wine spilt on his robes at a fucking banquet |
| 22:49.29 | Hachiman | olol |
| 22:49.30 | DrodoEmpire | My king's the most insecure asshole on earth |
| 22:49.36 | Imperios | Qin Shi DrodoEmpire |
| 22:49.39 | Imperios | Build a wall too |
| 22:49.39 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 22:49.47 | Tybusen | Imperios: That Spodeguy emblem looks really nice |
| 22:49.49 | DrodoEmpire | I'm Korea tho |
| 22:49.56 | Monet_2 | Wait what? |
| 22:50.36 | Monet_2 | Emperor has wine spilt over his robes -> Every intellectual must die. |
| 22:50.36 | Imperios | Hm? |
| 22:50.49 | Monet_2 | or every scholar. |
| 22:50.50 | DrodoEmpire | Monet_2: My king, Yeong Yi I, decided to purge the literati of Korea over some spilt wine of his robes |
| 22:50.58 | DrodoEmpire | Destablised my country >.< |
| 22:51.14 | Monet_2 | What did the literati do? |
| 22:51.27 | DrodoEmpire | A *single* intellectual invited over must've spilt the wine on him |
| 22:51.29 | *** join/#sporewiki Charles_Murray (6c380808@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.56.8.8) |
| 22:52.01 | DrodoEmpire | In EUIV, the trouble is you have control over the *country* but not exactly the people within it- asshole kings included |
| 22:52.08 | Imperios | Charles_Murray: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/3/32/Spodeguy_Emblem.png/revision/latest?cb=20160811222554 Take a look |
| 22:52.33 | Charles_Murray | Imperios get on #Katar |
| 22:52.55 | Charles_Murray | Might not be of immediate relevance to you, but you're on the X6 |
| 22:53.48 | Charles_Murray | drom get on #Katar |
| 22:53.53 | Charles_Murray | For a Bunsen conflict |
| 22:55.00 | Monet_2 | DrodoEmpire: So because one nerd had an accident on the king of Korea, every nerd in Korea has been marked for death. |
| 22:55.10 | Hachiman | I mean |
| 22:55.30 | Hachiman | Sounds like something Jong-un would do |
| 22:56.45 | DrodoEmpire | Monet_2 basically yeah |
| 22:56.56 | DrodoEmpire | Keep in mind that this is the *second* time this has happened |
| 22:56.59 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 23:01.11 | Hachiman | https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13876311_164521363972605_6342303678662948609_n.jpg?oh=879ae972b13e99c50ecb2d1e74038172&oe=585BEC3E |
| 23:05.13 | Monet_2 | Scary thing about that is that starfish eating is horrifying |
| 23:05.21 | Monet_2 | IIRC they turn themselves inside out |
| 23:05.49 | Hachiman | That's right |
| 23:10.42 | Monet_2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:11.01 | Hachiman | I use them interchangeably |
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| 23:11.57 | Monet_2 | Hi |
| 23:12.15 | OluapPlayer | hi |
| 23:12.28 | DrodoEmpire | YESSSSSSSSSS |
| 23:12.35 | Monet_2 | Then again I guess there's little to do - look at how many CoD kiddies recklessly though about the n- and f-word. |
| 23:12.47 | DrodoEmpire | The Ming heir's only got an Average claim to the thron |
| 23:12.48 | DrodoEmpire | *e |
| 23:13.02 | Wormy_ | I'm concerned the way internet throws "autistic" around as a meme sometimes implies they think autism is like a subcultural choice |
| 23:13.13 | Hachiman | Like being gay? |
| 23:13.19 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 23:13.41 | DrodoEmpire | Eh I do have mild autism (like several here)- I don't mind tbh >.< |
| 23:13.44 | OluapPlayer | It's a meaningless buzzword. If you're offended by it then you're fallen into their hands |
| 23:13.54 | DrodoEmpire | I'm thick-skinned by nature so yeah |
| 23:14.03 | DrodoEmpire | I basically take Oluap's stance |
| 23:14.07 | Hachiman | look at dis fun-ruinin autistic faggot |
| 23:14.13 | DrodoEmpire | ey |
| 23:14.18 | OluapPlayer | ayy |
| 23:14.24 | Hachiman | lmao |
| 23:14.35 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway, if the Ming get below fifty legitimacy they lose the mandate of heaven |
| 23:14.54 | Wormy_ | Not offended, but its symptomatic of how ignorant people are in social media and doesn't help my general disgust of that. |
| 23:15.06 | DrodoEmpire | And if you have an average claim heir they only have like fifty legitimacy- one small nudge and the whole country's in chaos |
| 23:15.14 | Monet_2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:15.43 | Hachiman | I prefer the term "cretin" because it's not used much anymore and has a bit more impact |
| 23:15.55 | DrodoEmpire | I like "cretin" as well |
| 23:15.57 | OluapPlayer | It's not ignorance, it's just rudeness. When they're calling you that, they're calling you stupid, not actually autistic |
| 23:15.58 | Wormy_ | Yeah most people using the buzzword have no idea what it is |
| 23:16.38 | Wormy_ | I guess what I mean to say its got appropriated |
| 23:17.27 | OluapPlayer | Not the first word to suffer this nor it will be the last. The internet will find a new buzzword later and 'autistic' will fall into disuse |
| 23:17.41 | Monet_2 | Oh definitely |
| 23:18.03 | Monet_2 | "Fascist" might be going that way |
| 23:19.33 | OluapPlayer | I've not seen that being used |
| 23:20.01 | DrodoEmpire | Eeyeah that hasn't been a popular insult for like thirty years |
| 23:20.02 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 23:20.07 | Wormy_ | Monet might mean people using the term, again not appropriately |
| 23:20.20 | DrodoEmpire | I know |
| 23:21.41 | Monet_2 | I said might |
| 23:22.04 | Monet_2 | Considering all the calls of Trump being Hitler, he might be the start. |
| 23:23.06 | OluapPlayer | Calling who you don't like Hitler is kinda old news |
| 23:25.00 | Hachiman | Monet's behind on the memes |
| 23:25.11 | Hachiman | God I fucking hate using that word |
| 23:25.28 | OluapPlayer | Nah that'd be http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GodwinsLaw |
| 23:25.41 | Hachiman | Ah yeah |
| 23:25.44 | Monet_2 | Hitler is one of those slurs that has been killed by overuse. |
| 23:26.11 | Wormy_ | I can't believe we just enacted Godwin's Law right now |
| 23:26.15 | Monet_2 | Even if compared to the likes of Stalin or Pol Pot he's a milder example of a batshit murder-happy dictator. |
| 23:26.17 | Wormy_ | Thanks Monet |
| 23:27.59 | Monet_2 | We'll just have to se I guess what the next insensitive slur is. |
| 23:29.05 | Wormy_ | I remember "you big pedo" being thrown around some years ago |
| 23:31.01 | Monet_2 | Oh bloody hell yes. |
| 23:31.05 | Monet_2 | Paedogeddon |
| 23:32.00 | OluapPlayer | I've only seen that being used against actual pedos |
| 23:32.46 | Monet_2 | Britain and America are currently under the grip of many personalities being accused of child sex abuse. |
| 23:33.45 | OluapPlayer | u big pedos |
| 23:34.16 | Monet_2 | The Thatcherite House of Commons, Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris, Bill Cosby, probably a lot more. It's perceived that it's almost a given that if a guy worked in children's television, he's likely a kiddie-fiddler. |
| 23:34.39 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/yQw6z |
| 23:34.42 | Hachiman | BBC for ya |
| 23:36.52 | Monet_2 | I think it's also ITV. Given they also provide a lot of children's programming. |
| 23:37.47 | Monet_2 | But from what I'm hearing the paedophile situation is so bad that the body set up to get though all the currently-known paedophile accusations could take at least ten years. |
| 23:39.35 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.14 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.52 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:41.11 | Wormy_ | They all knew about Jimmy Savile you know, these celebs |
| 23:42.05 | Wormy_ | OluapPlayer, DrodoEmpire: One look at this guy, whats your impression? http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02360/jimmySaville_2360477b.jpg |
| 23:42.23 | Hachiman | Member of the A-Team |
| 23:43.19 | OluapPlayer | Only about 5 more years to live |
| 23:43.35 | Hachiman | olol |
| 23:43.49 | Monet_2 | OluapPlayer: Well good news, He's already dead. |
| 23:43.55 | OluapPlayer | I was close |
| 23:44.13 | OluapPlayer | I don't know who that is mind you |
| 23:44.49 | Wormy_ | The authorities let him creep around children's hospitals and orphanages where he molested them |
| 23:44.55 | Monet_2 | That guy is Jimmy Saville. |
| 23:45.07 | Wormy_ | He created loads of charities to get close to children and seem innocent |
| 23:45.21 | Monet_2 | Used to be a creepy but beloved children's personality |
| 23:45.37 | Hachiman | Consider that Oluap lives in a country where paedophilia and child trafficking is quite probably the norm |
| 23:45.52 | Wormy_ | So kids would go to his dressing room where they would get assaulted and raped |
| 23:45.59 | OluapPlayer | Yes we're all savages and I'm speaking through a banana peel |
| 23:46.05 | Hachiman | oogabooga |
| 23:46.35 | OluapPlayer | Paedophilia and child trafficking is about as common here as it is anywhere else in the world |
| 23:46.38 | Wormy_ | Sounds like its the norm here when authorities and the police ignored it for so long :/ |
| 23:47.07 | Hachiman | #KillAllCops |
| 23:47.11 | Monet_2 | As I understand it, Brazil is on the richer end of the developing nation scale. |
| 23:47.34 | OluapPlayer | It is, along with a couple of others |
| 23:47.37 | Hachiman | I kid btw, both my parents are cops so I'd never badmouth the forces |
| 23:47.38 | Monet_2 | So it's no Uganda. |
| 23:47.56 | OluapPlayer | My dad's a cop and he badmouths the forces often |
| 23:48.05 | Hachiman | So do my folks but still hur |
| 23:48.15 | Hachiman | It seems cops just hate being cops |
| 23:48.16 | OluapPlayer | Impunity is a very serious problem here |
| 23:48.31 | Monet_2 | No one likes cops. |
| 23:48.32 | Wormy_ | Not a fan of cops tbh |
| 23:48.39 | OluapPlayer | Criminals don't get what they deserve which makes cops dissatisfied with their job |
| 23:49.51 | Monet_2 | Was this an influence for the frontier justice among the Indocs and the Niaka? |
| 23:50.22 | OluapPlayer | Might have been |
| 23:50.43 | OluapPlayer | Our penal code hasn't been altered or updated in over 70 years |
| 23:50.48 | The_Randomness | wtf |
| 23:51.10 | Monet_2 | That's... Damn. |
| 23:51.35 | OluapPlayer | Welcome to Brazil we're a developing power! |
| 23:53.02 | Monet_2 | You're doing well for yourselves on the economy side. |
| 23:54.26 | Monet_2 | Brasilia looks very much like a small city in the States |
| 23:55.03 | OluapPlayer | Brasilia was designed from scratch to be a capital |
| 23:55.13 | OluapPlayer | Like they got a top tier engineer specifically to make a capital |
| 23:55.25 | OluapPlayer | It's not a normal city which was settled and then grew with time |
| 23:55.38 | OluapPlayer | architect I mean |
| 23:55.51 | Monet_2 | You paid good money. Might still prefer Rio de Jenairo though. |
| 23:55.59 | Monet_2 | Rio seems more...fun. |
| 23:56.18 | OluapPlayer | Fun but dangerous and polluted |
| 23:56.30 | OluapPlayer | The athletes are complaining a lot about the water being dirty |
| 23:56.51 | Monet_2 | So it's like New York. |
| 23:57.03 | The_Randomness | well yeah, because there's some place nearby that pumps their sewage into the river |
| 23:57.12 | OluapPlayer | New York with more slums and less FREEDOM |
| 23:57.15 | Monet_2 | I'd say Detroit but Detroit's a shithole. |
| 23:57.24 | Technobliterator | Well, I was in Honduras the other day |
| 23:57.37 | Technobliterator | I imagine it's worse than Brazil |
| 23:57.39 | The_Randomness | jeez, the slums in Brazil are intense |
| 23:57.59 | The_Randomness | like, the worst in the world from what I've heard |
| 23:58.08 | OluapPlayer | About right |
| 23:58.17 | OluapPlayer | They almost feel like entirely different cities growing from normal ones |
| 23:58.28 | Technobliterator | I imagine this is why you don't go out much |
| 23:58.30 | Technobliterator | :P |
| 23:58.30 | OluapPlayer | Like tumors |
| 23:58.58 | OluapPlayer | Well there aren't any big slums here. I don't go out mostly because I prefer being at home |
| 23:59.01 | Technobliterator | Another friend of mine from Brazil claims the drug war is bad too |
| 23:59.10 | The_Randomness | From the way I see it, if Brazil can sort out their growing pains and fix up their politics, it'll be set |
| 23:59.26 | Monet_2 | The drug war is a general SOuth American problem, except in Chile apparently. |
| 23:59.32 | Technobliterator | Closer to being set than Honduras, anyhow |
| 23:59.44 | Technobliterator | It was so eye opening going there |
