| 00:00.02 | drom | Wait |
| 00:00.07 | Wormy_ | Yeah I know about that :P |
| 00:00.20 | Wormy_ | I used to make images with all sorts of effects |
| 00:00.20 | drom | Well, just pause the game, but still. |
| 00:00.57 | Wormy_ | But even pausing has issues, since effects change at distance |
| 00:01.46 | drom | Besides, Nomatarian would try to adapt their body language to those they interact or talk to. |
| 00:02.13 | drom | Basically, a traveller would be the most succesful diplomat |
| 00:02.30 | Cyrannian | I have more issues with textures becoming blurry at a distance, but some effects are pretty annoying to position correctly |
| 00:03.22 | drom | (I'll admit I generalized this. DrodoEmpire and Charles, just don't bore me to death with your diplomacy. Okay?) |
| 00:03.52 | Wormy_ | You need to have textures and effects at the right angle and distance, as well as catching some of the effects aet the right moment |
| 00:04.24 | DrodoEmpire | Er, I find nothing weird or oversimplified with that idea, seeing as its more psychology and biology? o.O |
| 00:04.50 | DrodoEmpire | I don't care to 'bore you with my diplomacy', whatever that means |
| 00:04.56 | DrodoEmpire | Its whatever dude |
| 00:05.05 | drom | Cyrannian Wormy_: The other struggle I had was trying to take screenshots using large-scaled effects. On a distance they are not visible despite popping up when getting an inch closer. |
| 00:05.51 | Wormy_ | Also, lights on starships for me also diminish at istance |
| 00:05.56 | Wormy_ | *distance |
| 00:06.00 | Cyrannian | That happens too. Do ships occasionally become completely black at a distance for you? |
| 00:06.09 | Charles_PC | (drom: ... ) |
| 00:06.10 | drom | DrodoEmpire: Just tried to be ironic considering all those grand strategy people I had seen and meet. |
| 00:06.16 | Wormy_ | Yeah, I think they did. |
| 00:06.25 | DrodoEmpire | Might be something to do with render or drawdistance Cyr |
| 00:06.44 | DrodoEmpire | I can't recall how detailed he graphics settings are with Spore, so you might be out of luck >.< |
| 00:07.00 | Cyrannian | Indeed, in-game limitations more than anything I'd imagine |
| 00:07.01 | drom | That and some models would shrink into an ugly barncale of reduced vectors. |
| 00:07.33 | Wormy_ | It probably is the in-game limitations, it probably coserves some performance to not render all effects in a scene at once. |
| 00:07.42 | Wormy_ | conserves |
| 00:07.48 | Charles_PC | ( drom : Well that was a gut-punch out of nowhere. Thanks.) |
| 00:08.05 | drom | Well, ops. |
| 00:08.09 | Charles_PC | Ass. |
| 00:08.23 | Wormy_ | Fight! Fight! Fight! |
| 00:08.32 | *** part/#sporewiki Charles_PC (6c380808@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.56.8.8) |
| 00:08.34 | DrodoEmpire | If you were joking, make an effort to let us know, got me? |
| 00:08.45 | DrodoEmpire | I assume you were, and you upset Charles quite a lot |
| 00:09.41 | Wormy_ | If I may step in, I don't think drom meant it too pesonally |
| 00:10.22 | DrodoEmpire | I hope not, a simple confirmation would be great |
| 00:12.12 | Technobliterator | I admit I haven't seen Charles amd |
| 00:12.17 | Technobliterator | mad before |
| 00:12.26 | Technobliterator | But I thought drom was joking |
| 00:12.45 | Wormy_ | I kind of have, but never seen him namecall anyone |
| 00:13.00 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Eternal_Enigma - New AI character I'm working on, c |
| 00:13.03 | Technobliterator | Frustrated, but not mad |
| 00:13.05 | drom | Actually, I was joking. I did not expect that would slam him in the toes that hard. |
| 00:13.19 | DrodoEmpire | Charles is good at keeping his cool- not to extend the drama anymore but yeah I've never seen him this upset |
| 00:13.27 | Technobliterator | Mhm |
| 00:13.43 | Technobliterator | You guys just need to kiss and make up |
| 00:13.43 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway, everyone has a breaking point or something that sets them off |
| 00:13.56 | drom | If anything. I've to put an effort into writing a diplomatic apology. |
| 00:14.06 | DrodoEmpire | drom: Good to hear drom, I'll let Charles know that |
| 00:14.19 | drom | DrodoEmpire: Sorry if this had been too personal for you. |
| 00:14.36 | DrodoEmpire | No, I was more confused than outright offended |
| 00:14.42 | drom | I too, take things personally, but I don't want to be an total ass about it. |
| 00:14.46 | Wormy_ | He might have had a bad day. |
| 00:14.54 | DrodoEmpire | Its alright, you didn't mean it |
| 00:15.03 | Wormy_ | People calling to save the horses and such. |
| 00:16.25 | Technobliterator | Probably was having a bad day already, yes |
| 00:16.59 | Technobliterator | Cyrannian, this looks interesting:o |
| 00:17.04 | Wormy_ | I've snapped before if I've had a bad day or was angered by something already. |
| 00:17.30 | Wormy_ | The price of slow electrochemical-mediated brains |
| 00:17.58 | Cyrannian | Nightie night |
| 00:18.01 | Wormy_ | night |
| 00:18.05 | Charles_Bot | Yeah, sorry about that |
| 00:18.12 | Charles_Bot | No need to apologize, I'm good |
| 00:18.23 | drom | You know, Charles is legendary for this emphasis on politics, economy and diplomacy. |
| 00:19.00 | drom | his, even |
| 00:19.02 | Charles_Bot | And oft-criticized for it, I'm afraid |
| 00:19.10 | Wormy_ | And has brought the whole dimension to the SporeWikiverse, and should be recognised for it |
| 00:19.36 | Charles_Bot | "Boring" was a little bit strong in terms of language, i.e. It came across as a bit of an attack on my fiction, but I get that you didn't mean it |
| 00:20.12 | DrodoEmpire | Aww, they made up |
| 00:20.14 | Charles_Bot | Sorry I overreacted, it did hit kind of a sensitive spot where I've been attacked and criticized before |
| 00:20.18 | DrodoEmpire | <3 |
| 00:20.20 | Charles_Bot | So yeah, we're good |
| 00:20.35 | DrodoAway | I gotta walk to a store now |
| 00:20.38 | drom | Charles_Bot: Tones are hard to deliver on monotonous sentences, like on the internet. |
| 00:20.55 | Charles_Bot | Especially across a language barrier |
| 00:21.37 | Wormy_ | I was a bit immature for shouting "fight", I didn't quite read the situation |
| 00:21.46 | Technobliterator | I remember when everyone criticised Wormy for being too sciency |
| 00:21.54 | Technobliterator | It's not exclusive to you |
| 00:22.03 | drom | I once saw an Austrian flip his shit over few sentenced written in a forum post by a Briton. Turns out the context did not translate well in both directions. |
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| 00:22.11 | Charles_Bot | Yeah, we've talked about that |
| 00:22.12 | Charles_Bot | Olol |
| 00:22.45 | drom | So the tone preceived non-serious until Brtion asked to his horsed and redeclared the context in different wording. |
| 00:22.57 | drom | asked him to hold his* |
| 00:22.59 | Technobliterator | Xho has been criticised for being too mythological |
| 00:23.38 | drom | Wonder about me. |
| 00:23.55 | Charles_Bot | Your templates are too beautiful |
| 00:24.02 | drom | <3 |
| 00:25.06 | drom | I remember few times Technobliterator had been [jokingly] criticised for being female. |
| 00:25.12 | drom | No offense Techno, but I could not resist. |
| 00:25.22 | Technobliterator | I do not recall |
| 00:26.33 | drom | I remember it vaguely. But I guess you remember that one time they thought you were a carp due to your usage of the ':o' emotes. |
| 00:26.55 | Charles_Bot | That rubbed off on me tbh :o |
| 00:27.40 | drom | At least we are not magikarps. |
| 00:27.49 | Technobliterator | oh |
| 00:27.51 | Technobliterator | eh |
| 00:28.56 | drom | Well. |
| 00:29.07 | drom | Time for me to take a rest. This day had been eventful. |
| 00:29.13 | drom | For me at least. |
| 00:30.07 | Technobliterator | I went to the Cayman Islands so it was eventful for me |
| 00:30.22 | Technobliterator | And no, I did no money laundering |
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| 00:39.44 | DrodoAway | hur |
| 00:39.50 | DrodoEmpire | Hi Wormy |
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| 00:52.25 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/KKSC4 |
| 00:58.39 | Wormy_ | >TheNightmareChild http://imgur.com/gallery/FVxaO |
| 00:58.43 | Wormy_ | nothx |
| 01:00.51 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 01:16.32 | Charles_PC | uh oh http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:215096 |
| 01:16.36 | Charles_PC | Here we go again |
| 01:17.38 | DrodoEmpire | Jeeezus |
| 01:17.54 | DrodoEmpire | Fresh new drama |
| 01:19.10 | DrodoEmpire | External hasn't even edited the Sporn page... literally ever |
| 01:19.11 | DrodoEmpire | o.O |
| 01:19.37 | DrodoEmpire | Checking talk |
| 01:19.48 | Technobliterator | Taken care of |
| 01:20.21 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah found what he was talking about to |
| 01:20.27 | DrodoEmpire | Sorta cringey, what External said |
| 01:20.34 | Technobliterator | eh, doesn't really make a difference |
| 01:20.36 | DrodoEmpire | Not worth flaming someone over, that's fucking dumb |
| 01:20.44 | Technobliterator | this guy has no right to harass him either way |
| 01:20.48 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah exactly |
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| 01:39.38 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 01:41.42 | Technobliterator | is going to start thinking about URO's government pages |
| 01:41.49 | Wormy_ | goodnight |
| 01:42.14 | DrodoEmpire | Tech: Cool, happy to help if you wish |
| 01:42.47 | Monet | I might head off as well |
| 01:42.54 | Technobliterator | I think I'll end up with, maybe 4 pages? |
| 01:42.59 | DrodoEmpire | Oh wow |
| 01:43.05 | DrodoEmpire | How come? |
| 01:43.30 | Technobliterator | One for Government as a whole, one for the Senate, one for political parties, and one for |
| 01:43.32 | Technobliterator | the Leaders |
| 01:43.37 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 01:43.39 | Technobliterator | that's not counting the character pages |
| 01:43.44 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 01:44.07 | Technobliterator | I mean |
| 01:44.10 | Monet | Why not combine the page on the senate and the political parties? |
| 01:44.12 | Technobliterator | the character pages are already made |
| 01:44.31 | Technobliterator | Monet, because political parties affects more than just the Senate |
| 01:44.36 | Technobliterator | It also affects the president |
| 01:44.46 | Technobliterator | Currently President Tuolog has no party, though |
| 01:45.29 | Monet | How much potential information is on the political parties? |
| 01:45.36 | Technobliterator | loads |
| 01:46.08 | Technobliterator | their policies, their history, their party leader, their electoral performance |
| 01:46.14 | Technobliterator | Oh, it affects the governors of state as well |
| 01:47.50 | Monet | Oh come on! Now Rogue One's doing that "trailer for the trailer" bullshit. |
| 01:48.09 | Technobliterator | .__. |
| 01:48.44 | DrodoEmpire | Tech: Ahh |
| 01:49.03 | DrodoEmpire | Charles might be more useful there >.< I *have* given thought to political parties for DE though |
| 01:49.35 | Technobliterator | Well, I know mostly what kind of parties there will be, it's the other pages that are giving me trouble |
| 01:49.44 | Technobliterator | mostly the Senate page |
| 01:49.58 | Technobliterator | I kind of...don't want to write details for every single senator |
| 01:49.59 | Monet | I'd suggest seeing how other users tackle the hurdle |
| 01:50.19 | Technobliterator | so I'll just need to describe it in other ways |
| 01:50.38 | Technobliterator | will probably make the parties page first |
| 01:52.09 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah describing every senator sounds like an utter pain >.< |
| 01:52.41 | DrodoEmpire | Depends on how big this senate is though- I know the Drodo's house of parliament has *hundreds* of seats which I have no want to describe very much |
| 01:53.08 | Technobliterator | I was thinking, like |
| 01:53.11 | Technobliterator | 200 senators or so |
| 01:53.40 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 01:53.54 | DrodoEmpire | Even generating names for them, and changing them up every few IC years seems like a pain |
| 01:54.01 | Technobliterator | where it's divided up by state, and the number of senators a state has is proportional to the population of all of URO |
| 01:54.02 | Technobliterator | as in |
| 01:54.19 | Technobliterator | a state in which 20% of URO's population resides in it has 40 senators |
| 01:55.03 | Charles_PC | Technobliterator : I created this: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Empire#Political_Parties |
| 01:55.43 | Technobliterator | oh, I like the design :o |
| 01:55.49 | Technobliterator | I would probably have more prose on mine, though |
| 01:56.04 | Charles_PC | Of course, I haven't written the prose on mine yet |
| 01:56.24 | Technobliterator | also, mine won't be a two party system |
| 01:56.45 | Charles_PC | Are you using first-past-the-post? |
| 01:56.48 | Technobliterator | There will be about 5 major parties and then I'll add a footnote for all the minor and extremist ones |
| 01:56.49 | Technobliterator | nah |
| 01:56.51 | Charles_PC | Good |
| 01:56.58 | Technobliterator | I'm using...what's it called |
| 01:57.11 | Technobliterator | I can't remember the name of it |
| 01:57.24 | Technobliterator | but it was preference voting where there are multiple representatives per constituency |
| 01:57.36 | Charles_PC | Mixed member representation |
| 01:57.38 | Charles_PC | I think |
| 01:57.38 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:57.39 | Monet | Techno hates FPPTP |
| 01:57.40 | Technobliterator | single transferable vote |
| 01:57.50 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo Empire uses Mixed member proportional |
| 01:57.51 | DrodoEmpire | Well |
| 01:57.59 | DrodoEmpire | That and aristocratic/family inheritance |
| 01:58.12 | Technobliterator | Single transferable vote was the one I was using, and it's all done digitally |
| 01:58.17 | Technobliterator | and within seconds |
| 01:58.29 | DrodoEmpire | Some seats in parliament have been held by a single noble house since almost the beginning of the Empire <.< |
| 01:58.33 | Charles_PC | You're discriminating against poor people, rural voters, and old people there ;) |
| 01:58.41 | DrodoEmpire | ayy |
| 01:58.48 | Technobliterator | Nope, they're already hooked up to nanomachines |
| 01:58.50 | DrodoEmpire | Public polling stations though |
| 01:58.52 | DrodoEmpire | Or that |
| 01:58.57 | Technobliterator | So just something flashes over their eyes |
| 01:59.00 | Technobliterator | and then they mentally decide |
| 01:59.02 | DrodoEmpire | Consumer electronics/nanomachines being super inexpensive |
| 01:59.21 | Technobliterator | Actually, URO's people have nanomachines by mandate :P |
| 01:59.37 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, that's right |
| 01:59.54 | Charles_PC | Nah, I was just recalling that socialsecurity.gov just created a new rule which requires people looking to log in to verify their identity with a phone "capable of receiving text messages." |
| 01:59.56 | Technobliterator | I imagine there would be campaigning and such beforehand |
| 02:00.12 | Charles_PC | Rip your little grannie who can't tell a toaster for a cell phone. |
| 02:00.16 | Technobliterator | So it wouldn't just be spontaneous, but it would happen within seconds |
| 02:00.21 | Charles_PC | from* |
| 02:00.32 | Technobliterator | heh |
| 02:02.23 | Technobliterator | Hm, I think an extra page might be needed for the president's executive branch |
| 02:03.04 | Technobliterator | so it'd be 5 once I'm done |
| 02:03.09 | Technobliterator | but I'll only make one now |
| 02:03.13 | DrodoEmpire | kk |
| 02:24.12 | DrodoEmpire | Technobliterator how's the page coming along? |
| 02:24.50 | Technobliterator | Well, I just got kicked out of the cabin and have only just been able to get back in and start it : |
| 02:24.51 | Technobliterator | :P |
| 02:24.56 | DrodoEmpire | Yikes |
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| 03:03.33 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 03:03.45 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 03:08.03 | Technobliterator | hihi |
| 03:29.11 | Technobliterator | bleh |
| 03:29.18 | Technobliterator | it's impossible to write a page on a cruise ship |
| 03:29.33 | The_Randomness | why's that? |
| 03:29.55 | Monet | Connection problems? |
| 03:31.11 | Technobliterator | Connection problems, and this tablet is a bitch to use |
| 03:31.40 | DrodoEmpire | Aw editing on a tablet must suck >.< |
| 03:32.53 | Technobliterator | Yup |
| 03:33.10 | Technobliterator | I'm using a keyboard with it and it's still not great |
| 03:33.26 | Technobliterator | Basically stupid hard to code like this |
| 03:34.11 | DrodoEmpire | I can imagine |
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| 08:25.53 | drom | The French really like their heraldry :o |
| 08:28.28 | drom | Oh man, this page is like walking into a store full of your favorite candy |
| 08:28.38 | drom | https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:SVG_coat_of_arms_elements |
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| 09:36.02 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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| 10:11.51 | ImpyDroid | Ghelae Liquid_Ink: https://67.media.tumblr.com/cc119eaececb9dfeba75f8693682a703/tumblr_ntdt7spmVz1to8e0mo1_1280.png |
| 10:14.42 | Ghelae | Ahh, it's been a while since I've seen "trans" and "cis" used in reference to chemistry rather than gender. |
| 10:24.43 | drom | Heeeey! |
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| 10:31.36 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 10:34.34 | Wormy_ | Umm, its entirely possible for "top researchers" to be pessimistic and negative about their own work https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cpc13WlVIAAsi7f.jpg:large |
| 10:45.48 | Wormy_ | Swedish Olympics https://www.facebook.com/sweklipp/videos/vb.474461939421489/556540821213600/?type=2&theater |
| 10:48.36 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 10:58.54 | Wormy_ | DrodoEmpire: It could be junk but I've seen the title that "Two players have met in NMS" already |
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| 10:59.13 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 10:59.24 | Wormy_ | Not reading because I want the game to be unspoiled |
| 10:59.27 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 11:00.39 | Hachiman | Oh, you on about No Man's Sky |
| 11:00.46 | Hachiman | Apparently I heard it's far from perfect |
| 11:01.46 | Hachiman | That two players met up on the same world despite the developer saying such was next to impossible, yet they could not see each other even when they stood on the same spot while they streamed and could not see the effects each one had on the environment around them |
| 11:04.11 | Wormy_ | They viewed two different randomised instances of the same dataset by the sounds of it |
| 11:04.59 | Hachiman | See, the developer said that No Man's Sky would be multiplayer, but I've yet to see any proof of that |
| 11:05.36 | Wormy_ | Its a shame I think it would add some spark to the game if it had a multiplayer or even full MMO option, you could a whole galactic society emerge |
| 11:05.52 | Hachiman | EVE Online has its own galactic society :p |
| 11:06.04 | Wormy_ | That was planned for Infinity: The Quest for Earth but it never got off the ground |
| 11:06.36 | Wormy_ | Eh... Eve doesn't look much like an exploration game though |
| 11:06.58 | Hachiman | It's less exploration and more corporate politics and economy |
| 11:08.44 | Wormy_ | The other game, Star Citizen, isn't that following the EVE model too? |
| 11:08.54 | Hachiman | From what I know |
| 11:09.56 | Wormy_ | I gotso excited about this game I founded a wiki on it http://infinitythequestforearth.wikia.com/wiki/Infinity |
| 11:10.16 | Wormy_ | But the devs seem to have given up on the original vision |
| 11:10.50 | Wormy_ | It was NMS-like, but with more realistic graphics and a society based on exploration and commerce |
| 11:14.55 | Wormy_ | Welcome to Glasgow http://imgur.com/gallery/MF6wR |
| 11:17.07 | drom | DrodoEmpire: Or heater shield bend sinister sable. |
| 11:17.07 | drom | or |
| 11:17.15 | drom | Argent heater shield bend sinister sable |
| 11:19.00 | Wormy_ | What NMS does achieve over all the space simulators is detailed and animated animals and plants on large planets |
| 11:19.38 | Wormy_ | pretty sure it only generates them in the camera-view or something but its pretty cool |
| 11:19.43 | drom | Wormy_: You being able to fly in a spaceship than being the all-seeing one that ascends through everything |
| 11:20.07 | Wormy_ | You mean no loading screens? |
| 11:20.21 | Wormy_ | Space Engine and Infinity: Engine had that |
| 11:20.55 | drom | Well, to be fair. Space Engine generated everything on the fly |
| 11:21.30 | Wormy_ | I much prefer the looks of SE to NMS |
| 11:21.53 | Wormy_ | Sadly mined stopped working even when I reinstalled :( |
| 11:22.05 | drom | Wormy_: http://i.imgur.com/YPGuNQa.png I'm uncertain if the argent (white) background should be or (yellow/gold) |
| 11:22.30 | drom | And yes. 'Or' is yellow/gold, in terms of heraldry. |
| 11:23.38 | Wormy_ | Go for Or |
| 11:24.00 | Wormy_ | Or if you do go for white, make it slightly textured or silvery |
| 11:29.30 | drom | Ew textured |
| 11:29.43 | drom | also, ew absolute white |
| 11:30.42 | drom | Wormy_: Besides, I stitched this together using two assets I could on Wiki-Commons. http://i.imgur.com/0qascBT.png |
| 11:32.06 | Wormy_ | Oh look its House Stark! |
| 11:32.08 | drom | Wormy_: http://i.imgur.com/n9W5GmF.png |
| 11:32.30 | Wormy_ | I prefer that to plain white, which looks unfinished to me |
| 11:35.11 | drom | Wormy_: Agh, no. They use "argent shield chef vert direwolf argent" |
| 11:41.29 | drom | Wormy_: Actually, base vert. |
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| 11:42.05 | drom | "chef" was supposed to be "chief" but that is at top, and "base" is the bottom equivalent of chief. |
| 11:42.10 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 11:42.33 | drom | Wormy_: See http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/gameofthrones/images/8/8a/House-Stark-Main-Shield.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20160703180116 |
| 11:43.08 | Wormy_ | Given its fur a scale-like appearence |
| 11:43.46 | drom | Wormy_: Medival/Dark ages was not an age for artistans |
| 11:44.16 | Wormy_ | Well maybe its symbolic of dragons and serpentine entities? |
| 11:47.13 | Hachiman | That'd be the Targaryens |
| 11:47.22 | Hachiman | Starks have nothing to do with dragons and such |
| 11:47.37 | Hachiman | Well, other than Jon Snow |
| 11:50.58 | Wormy_ | Well its clearly a dire wolf, but it can still trigger a serpentine symbolism |
| 11:51.42 | Wormy_ | Alternatively they are not scales but chainmail |
| 12:00.25 | Wormy_ | I must admit, this is one awesome countdown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3ezhvCzWCM |
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| 12:07.31 | Wormy_ | hi |
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| 12:36.47 | drom | Wormy_. Wolves tend to have shaggy fur |
| 12:37.07 | drom | Same applies to all furred mammals that are wet. |
| 12:37.24 | Wormy_ | Or covered in shit |
| 12:37.44 | drom | Hehehe |
| 12:45.03 | drom | Wormy_: Anyway, the bend sinister shield is Takoalasko's coat of arms. The italian horsehead is the nation/civilization's coat of arms |
| 12:45.19 | drom | Right now I'm doing the local authority's coat of arms |
| 12:45.57 | drom | I'm a bit uncertain which shape I should pick. |
| 12:45.58 | drom | https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:SVG_coat_of_arms_elements_-_escutcheon_shapes |
| 12:46.31 | Wormy_ | too much choice |
| 12:46.50 | Wormy_ | https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Italian_horse-head_escutcheon.svg ? |
| 12:47.17 | Wormy_ | oh right you want a different one |
| 12:47.38 | Wormy_ | maybe just a simpler, angular one |
| 12:48.14 | drom | The shape becomes more complex as the higher authority the coat of arms belongs to |
| 12:49.28 | drom | Ahem, to word it better. The shape becomes more complex as the higher authority the coat of arms represents. |
| 12:51.22 | drom | Wormy_: This could work, perhaps. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:SVG_coat_of_arms_elements_-_escutcheon_shapes#/media/File:Coa_Illustration_Shield_Renaissance_2.svg |
| 12:51.37 | drom | ugh |
| 12:51.40 | drom | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Coa_Illustration_Shield_Renaissance_2.svg |
| 12:52.40 | Wormy_ | Maybe, I was thinking of something even as simple as "Coa Illustration Tincture basic Argent" |
| 12:54.28 | drom | Wormy_: By local authority, I mean a baron/count/duke heir |
| 13:01.12 | Charles_Bot | IRL the coat of arms gets more complex and ornate, but the shape of the escutcheon doesn't change |
| 13:01.36 | Charles_Bot | It's a regional and traditional variation rather than rank |
| 13:22.08 | drom | Charles_Bot: That is true. Although my idea was to not follow that suit. |
| 13:22.26 | Charles_Bot | Of course |
| 13:32.24 | Hachiman | Wormy_away: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE0nuW-mQ8A No spoilers but you should watch |
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| 13:44.44 | DrodoEmpire | *Hi |
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| 14:05.03 | drom | Charles_Bot: How to pimp your heraldry: Overcharge it |
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| 14:18.30 | drom | Charles_Bot: I wonder what more could I fit in here. http://i.imgur.com/3VNziSh.png |
| 14:18.48 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 14:20.50 | Tek0516 | Don't know if anyone posted it already but there's a new Kurzgesagt video on genetic engineering. https://youtu.be/jAhjPd4uNFY |
| 14:21.32 | Hachiman | Saw that |
| 14:21.44 | Hachiman | Again, quality content |
| 14:22.37 | Tek0516 | Quite a long video on the subject too. |
| 14:25.45 | drom | Damn where is Imperios. |
| 14:27.46 | Monet | This video feels unsettlingly smooth. |
| 14:30.44 | Wormy_away | Hachiman: Lying is a strong word on the first day of its release: maybe there are server issues or bugs; maybe those players missed something |
| 14:31.39 | Wormy_away | Maybe they never got to test multiplayer capability properly. They weren't expecting multiplayer so put it on the backfoot, etc. |
| 14:31.51 | OluapPlayer | Are you talking about NMS multiplayer? |
| 14:31.58 | Wormy_away | *weren't expecting players to meet |
| 14:32.00 | Wormy_away | Yes |
| 14:32.25 | Wormy_away | Two players found the same world but experiences different instances of it. |
| 14:32.35 | OluapPlayer | The game was advertised as having multiplayer features. But the devs confirmed on Twitter this week there is no multiplayer of any nature in the game |
| 14:33.05 | Wormy_away | How long ago did Sean say it had multiplayer though? |
| 14:33.19 | OluapPlayer | At least since E3 |
| 14:33.34 | Wormy_away | I just sense gamer ragefest |
| 14:33.46 | OluapPlayer | No, these are fact |
| 14:33.48 | OluapPlayer | s |
| 14:34.13 | Technobliterator | NMS is the closest we'll get to Spore 2 for a while, alas |
| 14:34.39 | OluapPlayer | Just because of space exploration? NMS has no creature creation |
| 14:34.44 | OluapPlayer | which is what made Spore what it is |
| 14:35.00 | Technobliterator | The space exploration, yeah |
| 14:35.02 | Wormy_away | Spore was way more creative |
| 14:35.15 | Technobliterator | Even though the creators were Spore's best part |
| 14:35.18 | Technobliterator | by far |
| 14:35.19 | Wormy_away | Don't think there is any creating in NMS |
| 14:35.39 | Wormy_away | Spore achieved its aims of creativity imo |
| 14:36.10 | Hachiman | Yes, Sean has been saying that NMS would have multiplayer for a long time and only recently started saying that there would be no multiplayer |
| 14:36.20 | Technobliterator | If EA got its head out of the sand, it could've achieved so much more |
| 14:36.21 | Hachiman | He lied and customers are lapping it up |
| 14:36.49 | Technobliterator | Honestly, lack of multiplayer is not a big deal |
| 14:36.50 | Wormy_away | They want to lap it up because they belong to a spoiled and entitled generation on 90's and 2000's kids |
| 14:37.03 | Wormy_away | Who had everything served to them ion a silver platter |
| 14:37.05 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: http://heatst.com/culture-wars/mass-effect-designer-manveer-heir-hates-white-people-and-wants-the-world-to-know/ Speaking of EA, here's one of the people in charge of working on Mass Effect: Andromeda |
| 14:37.19 | Technobliterator | wow what |
| 14:37.29 | OluapPlayer | It's okay to be hyped for a game but it's not okay to condole false advertising |
| 14:38.07 | OluapPlayer | People being promised features which are not in the game does not make them 'spoiled' |
| 14:38.26 | Monet | There's a kind-of multiplayer. |
| 14:38.58 | Technobliterator | Well that guy is a moron |
| 14:39.01 | Wormy_away | Nah but they expect everything to be perfect |
| 14:39.13 | Technobliterator | I mean |
| 14:39.15 | OluapPlayer | Of course they do, they're spending their money on it |
| 14:39.29 | Hachiman | Wormy_away: No, we expect games that live up to the promises that developers are making because it is *our* money that goes to them |
| 14:39.30 | Technobliterator | They could've delayed NMS even more to finish multiplayer |
| 14:39.42 | Wormy_away | and throw a hissy fit when real life proves everything not to be perect |
| 14:39.46 | Technobliterator | but then there would be complaints |
| 14:39.49 | OluapPlayer | I'm checking their twitter again and they seem to be backpedalling back and forth on the issue |
| 14:40.14 | OluapPlayer | First stating https://twitter.com/NoMansSky/status/762688708764135425 and then claiming players met each other after release |
| 14:40.20 | Wormy_away | It sounds like they couldn't finish multiplayer to me |
| 14:40.33 | Monet | I agree with Wormy |
| 14:40.42 | Hachiman | "The chances of two players ever crossing paths in a universe this large is pretty much zero." |
| 14:40.44 | Hachiman | Except they did |
| 14:40.59 | Hachiman | Or rather, they would have done if multiplayer was implemented |
| 14:41.05 | Monet | I think that's in reference to two players randomly encountering each other |
| 14:41.37 | OluapPlayer | A tweet made today says 2 players met during a stream |
| 14:41.39 | Hachiman | Because they were standing in the exact same spot on the exact same planet, interacting with the environment at the exact same time |
| 14:42.04 | OluapPlayer | So I don't get the point of claiming there was no multiplayer in the first place |
| 14:42.11 | Hachiman | And could not see one another or see the effects they had on the environment |
| 14:42.16 | Hachiman | And could not see one another or see the effects they had on the environment |
| 14:42.24 | OluapPlayer | y u post twice |
| 14:42.44 | Hachiman | They didn't *meet* though |
| 14:43.09 | OluapPlayer | https://twitter.com/NoMansSky/status/763270259080097792 they did |
| 14:43.13 | Hachiman | Like, there weren't two avatars cooperating with one another; they would have done if multiplayer was promised |
| 14:43.27 | Monet | They met, they just didn't see each other. |
| 14:43.41 | OluapPlayer | Eh? |
| 14:43.46 | OluapPlayer | How do they know they met then? |
| 14:43.56 | Monet | Skype communication |
| 14:44.04 | Technobliterator | This sounds |
| 14:44.15 | Technobliterator | like an extremely minor thing to complain anout |
| 14:44.18 | Hachiman | Because they were both running livestreams of the planet they were on and they could not see each other in-game |
| 14:44.20 | Technobliterator | It's not an MMO |
| 14:44.30 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: It was marketed as an MMO |
| 14:44.56 | Technobliterator | Source? |
| 14:44.57 | Monet | But this encounter doesn't count against the "pretty much zero" statement because that statement was saying "there are so many planets out there the chance of randomly crossing another player is slim to none" |
| 14:45.06 | Wormy_away | I'm honestly not bothered it doesn't have multiplayer. Players are just upset because most other games this big on the market have such features. And seriously buying a game just 'because its multiplayer' just proves to me the lack of imagination |
| 14:45.15 | OluapPlayer | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE0nuW-mQ8A interviews through the last few months |
| 14:45.15 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE0nuW-mQ8A |
| 14:45.40 | Hachiman | Wormy_away: That's not the point, you don't understand |
| 14:45.56 | Technobliterator | Oh, that's stupid |
| 14:45.57 | Wormy_away | I do understand, I;m just sayying "boo hoo" |
| 14:45.58 | Hachiman | It was marketed to have multiplayer and it doesn't have miltiplayer |
| 14:46.25 | Hachiman | It's like me marketing a product that has all these major features and then I release it and it is missing them |
| 14:46.25 | Monet | Gamers today have incredibly high standards. If a game does not meet expectations they go "we were lied to this sucks" regardless of how good the-rest- of the game is. |
| 14:46.25 | Technobliterator | Well, the complaints aren't that the game lacks multiplayer |
| 14:46.34 | Wormy_away | Sean being interviewed back in development isn't exactly the best form of marketing. Does it say it on the product? |
| 14:46.37 | OluapPlayer | It doesn't matter what features it has now. What matters is the false advertising done by the devs |
| 14:46.39 | Technobliterator | they are that the product was not marketed properly |
| 14:47.09 | Technobliterator | I'm not upset, but this is stupid |
| 14:47.19 | Wormy_away | What irritates me is 1) high standards 2) any excuse to "burn" down the studio |
| 14:47.25 | Hachiman | Like if Sean had just said "btw you actually can't physically meet in-game because it's not programmed" instead of "oh you can't meet because universe is so vast blah blah blah" this issue would be avoided |
| 14:47.41 | Monet | He wasn't lying. |
| 14:47.57 | Hachiman | Yes, he was |
| 14:48.00 | Monet | The only way these two met must have surely been coordination. |
| 14:48.04 | Wormy_away | As far as I'm aware he said *both* |
| 14:48.14 | Technobliterator | Maybe not lying |
| 14:48.18 | Monet | They didn't cross each other by coincidence. |
| 14:48.23 | Technobliterator | but making false promises |
| 14:48.23 | Hachiman | They didn't *meet*; they were on the same planet, in the same area, in the same fucking spot |
| 14:48.31 | OluapPlayer | I'm done with thsi talk because honestly it feels like I'm talking to a wall |
| 14:48.32 | Hachiman | They couldn't see or interact with each other |
| 14:48.46 | Wormy_away | What perhaps he should have said is that players can view each other discoveries or large-scale changes but not meet in the same instance |
| 14:49.04 | Technobliterator | I get it now |
| 14:49.22 | Technobliterator | It won't affect whether or not I buy the game, though |
| 14:49.47 | Wormy_away | It just confirms my irritation with the gaming community as much as anything |
| 14:49.48 | Wormy_away | bbl |
| 14:50.00 | Hachiman | So a developer lies and you blame the community |
| 14:50.01 | Hachiman | lol okay |
| 14:50.03 | Monet | Could they meet in space? |
| 14:50.13 | Hachiman | It's not programmed in |
| 14:50.13 | Hachiman | No, they can't meet at all |
| 14:50.46 | Monet | There's still multiplayer because their discoveries are still recorded for others to see. |
| 14:50.54 | Technobliterator | Uh |
| 14:50.57 | Technobliterator | That's not multiplayer |
| 14:51.02 | Hachiman | That isn't multiplayer |
| 14:51.11 | Technobliterator | By that definition, any game has multiplayer |
| 14:51.16 | Technobliterator | because anything can be streamed live |
| 14:51.30 | Wormy_away | He wasn't very specific, perhaps on purpose who knows |
| 14:51.34 | Hachiman | He claimed the game would have multiplayer for months and used "universe is so vast you can't meet" as an excuse to cover the fact you can't actually meet in-game which he never clarified |
| 14:51.45 | Monet | Other players are impacting your gameplay experience - that's multiplayer. |
| 14:51.46 | Hachiman | And then two players actually try to meet up and they can't |
| 14:52.00 | Technobliterator | A developer made a mistake |
| 14:52.10 | Technobliterator | It was stupid, but it doesn't warrant a witch hunt |
| 14:52.14 | Monet | Agreed |
| 14:52.22 | Wormy_away | Yes, all the places you can discover are uploaded to the servers; and large-scale changes to planets may also be I read |
| 14:52.31 | Hachiman | No, I disagree; this is not a mistake, he was purposely vague on the issue |
| 14:52.32 | OluapPlayer | Whether other people accept false advertising is your problem. I don't. |
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| 14:52.40 | Hachiman | Neither do I |
| 14:52.53 | Technobliterator | I think it was more likely just an error |
| 14:53.03 | Technobliterator | it's an indie studio that doesn't know how to do PR |
| 14:53.05 | Hachiman | To me it just sounds like you're trying to justify Sean because you *want* NMS to be good even though it's not and you've been lied to and you can't accept that |
| 14:53.14 | Technobliterator | Dude |
| 14:53.18 | Wormy_away | The whole witch-hunt comes from the spoiled entitlement consumers have with imperfect companies and media |
| 14:53.21 | Technobliterator | The lack of multiplayer does not ruin the game |
| 14:53.25 | Monet | "oh they made a mistake out of inexperience BURN THEM AT THE STAKE!" |
| 14:53.27 | Wormy_away | and institutions |
| 14:53.27 | Technobliterator | A developer made a mistake |
| 14:53.31 | OluapPlayer | I think Sony helped NMS's marketing |
| 14:53.33 | Hachiman | I'm not saying the fact it has no multiplayer is the issue |
| 14:53.35 | Quark8 | bbl |
| 14:53.40 | Hachiman | It's the fucking fact people were lied to about it |
| 14:53.43 | Technobliterator | Yeah, but |
| 14:53.50 | Hachiman | And Sean purposely avoided the issue |
| 14:53.55 | Hachiman | And lured people in thinking it did |
| 14:53.58 | Hachiman | To boost sales |
| 14:54.08 | Technobliterator | Does this mean that the rest of the game is bad? |
| 14:54.15 | Technobliterator | You'll judge the entire game on this? |
| 14:54.30 | Wormy_away | "you *want* NMS to be good even though it's not" - how does not having multiplayer make it bad? |
| 14:54.38 | Technobliterator | Because that's really shallow |
| 14:54.41 | Hachiman | Oh my God you're not getting it Wormy |
| 14:54.46 | Hachiman | It's not the lack of multiplayer |
| 14:54.53 | Hachiman | It's the fact the feature was lied about |
| 14:55.07 | Wormy_away | I'm sure the game is still great fun to play for many people |
| 14:55.14 | Technobliterator | Hachi, you said right there "you want it to be good even though it's not" |
| 14:55.21 | Hachiman | A guy completed a supposed "infinite game" in about 30 hours WITH detours to, in his words, "break up the monotony" |
| 14:55.28 | Technobliterator | You're implying that a feature being lied about sinks the rest of the game |
| 14:55.47 | Wormy_away | One person's opinion and approach to playing the game won't be someone-else's |
| 14:55.59 | Monet | Hachiman: It's infinite because he got to the core, the aim of the game is to map the entire galaxy. |
| 14:56.00 | Technobliterator | I think the developers made a stupid mistake |
| 14:56.04 | Technobliterator | and had no idea how to do PR |
| 14:56.08 | Wormy_away | People have been looking all along for reasons to hate this game |
| 14:56.18 | Hachiman | The game is overhyped |
| 14:56.22 | Wormy_away | I agree |
| 14:56.26 | DrodoEmpire | Hachiman: He's *literally* said the game isn't multiplayer |
| 14:56.27 | DrodoEmpire | Sean |
| 14:56.27 | Hachiman | Just like Spore and Destiny were |
| 14:56.28 | DrodoEmpire | Also |
| 14:56.37 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE0nuW-mQ8A YES he does |
| 14:56.39 | DrodoEmpire | 30 hours to the core's true if you just beeline for it |
| 14:56.44 | Technobliterator | I mean, how could anyone expect any game possible to live up to the hype |
| 14:56.46 | Wormy_away | Doesn't make either a bad experience. Spore is still my fav game |
| 14:56.46 | Technobliterator | like |
| 14:56.53 | Technobliterator | just enjoy the game for what it is |
| 14:57.10 | Monet | The guy who did it said would probably take hundreds of hours. |
| 14:57.15 | Technobliterator | I just think if you choose to judge it based solely on this, then that's really shallow |
| 14:57.51 | Hachiman | So I should enjoy say Suicide Squad for what it is even though it was marketed to be a good film when it's actually been deemed mediocre by film critics |
| 14:57.53 | Monet | Woemy_away Technobliterator: That's the thing that infuriates me the most about modern gamer culture. It's a community of nit-pickers who will look for any reason to pour hot-shit on any positivity. |
| 14:58.01 | Wormy_away | I swear I've seen videos where Sean denied multiplayer too |
| 14:58.10 | Technobliterator | Yes? |
| 14:58.17 | Technobliterator | If you enjoy it, then fine |
| 14:58.25 | Technobliterator | If you don't, then that's also fine |
| 14:58.37 | DrodoEmpire | I've seen very recent tweets in which he says it isn't necessarily an MP game |
| 14:58.43 | Technobliterator | How you think this is comparable to bad reviews is honestly beyond me |
| 14:58.44 | DrodoEmpire | And I've done my research besides that |
| 14:58.49 | OluapPlayer | I think this discussion has run its course |
| 14:58.59 | OluapPlayer | up* |
| 14:59.10 | DrodoEmpire | https://twitter.com/NoMansSky/status/762688708764135425 - Hachiman |
| 14:59.17 | OluapPlayer | People are getting worked yu |
| 14:59.25 | DrodoEmpire | They are |
| 14:59.26 | Wormy_away | Monet: It reminds me of many students I've encountered where they can't take criticism or expect high marks when they have so much less, or produce shallow work and expect to be showered with praise |
| 14:59.36 | DrodoEmpire | If you don't like the game then don't play it Hachiman |
| 14:59.40 | DrodoEmpire | Nobody's forcing you |
| 14:59.44 | Monet | ~offtopic |
| 14:59.44 | infobot | Sorry, please check the topic and try your comment again. <BEEP> |
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| 14:59.48 | Wormy_away | I blame the education system and nanny state for that |
| 14:59.48 | Monet | Fuck |
| 14:59.55 | ImpyDroid2 | People are being salty again? |
| 15:00.06 | Technobliterator | It's ~swofftopic, Monet |
| 15:00.07 | Hachiman | I can't make a comment on whether I like the game or not but the fact Sean lied and constantly avoided the issue is absolutely infuriating |
| 15:00.15 | Monet | Technobliterator: Thanks |
| 15:00.22 | Technobliterator | It's a stupid PR mistake, Hachi, nothing more |
| 15:00.24 | Wormy_away | The same suffer terrible anxiety towards risk taking |
| 15:00.28 | OluapPlayer | I thought I was clear before but evidently not |
| 15:00.33 | OluapPlayer | Let's stop this talk now |
| 15:00.34 | ImpyDroid2 | Right what is the center of discussion |
| 15:00.36 | Wormy_away | and have high expectations |
| 15:00.39 | ImpyDroid2 | Some game was bad or something |
| 15:00.47 | Monet | ~swofftopic |
| 15:00.47 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, swofftopic is #sporewiki-offtopic |
| 15:00.55 | OluapPlayer | False advertising in No Man's Sky |
| 15:01.02 | Technobliterator | ^anyone who wants to discuss it can go there |
| 15:01.03 | DrodoEmpire | Let's take this to offotpic |
| 15:01.04 | OluapPlayer | Right now |
| 15:01.04 | Hachiman | We're done with the discussion |
| 15:01.05 | DrodoEmpire | *topic |
| 15:01.07 | OluapPlayer | Which yes you should take to the offtopic channel |
| 15:01.15 | ImpyDroid2 | Such is the way of developers to lie and mislead us |
| 15:01.23 | ImpyDroid2 | Destroying them is the only way to avoid their influence |
| 15:01.30 | Technobliterator | : | |
| 15:01.43 | OluapPlayer | DON'T YOU KNOW, MAXIS'S SOUL HAS BEEN PICKED CLEAN... CENTURIES AGO! |
| 15:01.44 | Technobliterator | So, I'm going to have another shot at writing URO's government pages |
| 15:02.18 | Hachiman | Also Wormy, you have no idea how the gaming community works and I can't believe you feel it's wrong for players, specifically those who buy pre-orders, to get what developers have promised them |
| 15:02.27 | OluapPlayer | Shut UP |
| 15:02.31 | DrodoEmpire | Go to the other fucking channel Hachiman |
| 15:02.32 | Technobliterator | ^ |
| 15:02.32 | OluapPlayer | Move to offtopic |
| 15:02.34 | DrodoEmpire | Jesus Christ |
| 15:02.50 | Hachiman | Alright, fuck |
| 15:02.57 | Wormy_away | Hachiman: I'm willing to discuss it there with you |
| 15:06.24 | Tek0516 | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1470838446-20160810.png |
| 15:08.26 | ImpyDroid2 | Hachiman: Imagine a movie about Abdul al-Hazred |
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| 15:12.24 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid2: I was actually listening to The Dunwich Horror earlier and figured that it would make an interesting movie |
| 15:12.35 | Hachiman | A movie about al-Hazred would also be cool |
| 15:29.22 | Treebeard | Test |
| 15:29.37 | Technobliterator | you failed |
| 15:29.44 | Technobliterator | you faaaaaaaailed |
| 15:43.43 | Wormy_away | Tek0516: Brilliant |
| 15:50.04 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid2: Imagine a movie adaptation of Call of Cthulhu, Shadow Over Innsmouth, or Mountains of Madness |
| 15:51.10 | Hachiman | I still find it funny ReAnimator is a praised cult film yet it was the literary work that Lovecraft hated most |
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| 16:02.15 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid2: https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/13891851_987091218069733_753174355453285081_n.jpg?oh=7c024b805a012fd81849cd3d846dc929&oe=585480E4 |
| 16:04.13 | drom | ImpyDroid2: http://i.imgur.com/S7Isbxo.png |
| 16:05.05 | Hachiman | Fucking gnome gets what he deserves for being a gnome hur |
| 16:05.58 | drom | I never realized this raid instance was supposed to be funny until I read the conservation now |
| 16:12.55 | ImpyDroid2 | Hachiman: But Medusa dindunuffingwrong |
| 16:13.07 | ImpyDroid2 | She was snakehead-shamed by the patriarchy |
| 16:13.37 | ImpyDroid2 | drom: That is a classic |
| 16:13.58 | ImpyDroid2 | They actually brought back Jaraxxus for the new expansion |
| 16:15.06 | ImpyDroid2 | Hachiman: Gnome master race plz |
| 16:15.56 | Hachiman | How about you put gnomes in Fantasyverse u |
| 16:15.56 | ImpyDroid2 | Jokes on me, my main is actually a female gnome monk |
| 16:16.13 | ImpyDroid2 | least popular race and least popular class |
| 16:16.17 | ImpyDroid2 | And least popular gender |
| 16:16.53 | ImpyDroid2 | But damn does it look cool when I kung fu ogres four times my size |
| 16:17.29 | ImpyDroid2 | As for gnomes, could do but what would be their shtick? |
| 16:17.38 | ImpyDroid2 | Cannot make them engineers like in Warcraft |
| 16:18.07 | Hachiman | Make them oriental monk-ish earthbenders |
| 16:18.37 | Hachiman | Shaolin live in mountains, gnomes are related to earth |
| 16:19.18 | ImpyDroid2 | So like Paracelsian gnomes? |
| 16:19.48 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 16:23.26 | drom | Technobliterator: Looks like I need to change the name of a file. But apparently the rename/move tool doesn't work with file anymore |
| 16:23.38 | drom | Or it never did |
| 16:23.40 | Technobliterator | uh |
| 16:23.44 | Technobliterator | It should do? |
| 16:25.42 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/UeLsfbG.png This is all I can see |
| 16:28.21 | drom | Technobliterator: Oh, I see now. http://i.imgur.com/8dfHZam.png |
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| 16:49.52 | Wormy_away | Hachiman, Tek0516: Watched Kurzgesagt's video on CRISPR. A really balanced perspective, I'm certainly for most applications against disease and maybe even ageing, though the idea of designing human beings out of vanity does make meel uncomfortable |
| 16:51.04 | Wormy_away | It also makes me feel uncomfortable that such a society would be likely to eliminate things like Asperger's, yeah it causes problems but I like to think there is value in neuro-diversity |
| 16:51.39 | *** join/#sporewiki Xho (97e0b138@gateway/web/freenode/ip.151.224.177.56) |
| 16:53.01 | Ghelaway | Hello. |
| 16:53.03 | Wormy_away | Especially since you are not just changing your own child, but potentially more and more of humanity down the line which had no say |
| 16:53.07 | Wormy_away | Hi |
| 16:53.22 | Xho | meow |
| 16:53.36 | OluapPlayer_ | spu |
| 16:56.50 | Technobliterator | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Union_Republic_of_Ottzello/Government/Parties It is done |
| 16:56.52 | Xho | meow again |
| 16:57.00 | Technobliterator | You guys may like the third one |
| 16:57.20 | Wormy_away | Pro-Loron party! |
| 16:58.01 | OluapPlayer_ | Tuolog - i have no idea what i'm doing |
| 16:58.54 | Wormy_away | Zr'Ahgloth only finding out what a political party was funny. |
| 17:00.26 | DrodoEmpire | Ooh |
| 17:00.31 | DrodoEmpire | I *love* the templates |
| 17:00.35 | OluapPlayer_ | >the 1% of Loron who do not vote are either far more intelligent than the average Loron, or put a cross in the incorrect box |
| 17:00.35 | OluapPlayer_ | kek |
| 17:00.39 | DrodoEmpire | Really really clean |
| 17:01.00 | OluapPlayer_ | Technobliterator: >Leader to "biggest boss boss boss" |
| 17:01.01 | OluapPlayer_ | SOLIDUS |
| 17:01.14 | Technobliterator | :D |
| 17:01.16 | Technobliterator | Yup |
| 17:01.33 | OluapPlayer_ | THAT'S NOT ZR'AHGLOTH I AM ZR'AHGLOTH NO ME |
| 17:02.09 | Wormy_away | "Removal of national education and healthcare programs" - Usually Libertarians offer private companies and charities as an alternative, perhaps with some control on where taxes go to the people |
| 17:02.31 | OluapPlayer_ | I'd maybe recommend using a lighter shade of red in the Libertarian Party box |
| 17:02.31 | DrodoEmpire | 'Initially, Zr'Ahgloth demanded free pizza be "everywhere", until he learnt that "party" did not refer to a gathering but a political movement.' |
| 17:02.33 | DrodoEmpire | ohgodlol |
| 17:02.35 | OluapPlayer_ | It's kinda grating to the eyes |
| 17:02.56 | Technobliterator | Yeah, I could do |
| 17:03.36 | Wormy_away | A nice addition that each party is geared to the interests of only a couple of members |
| 17:04.09 | OluapPlayer_ | Vida'Rranlora - fucking primitives |
| 17:04.42 | Technobliterator | bbl food |
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| 17:05.54 | dino82_ | hi |
| 17:07.19 | drom | Anyway |
| 17:07.30 | drom | Speaking of that CRISPR video of Kutz |
| 17:08.02 | drom | It was very reliveing for me to see that bubble of "retinas pigmentosa" pop. |
| 17:08.37 | drom | Because, once again. I've a genetic defect we call Ushers Syndrome |
| 17:10.29 | dino82_ | howz all doing |
| 17:11.12 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 17:11.13 | OluapPlayer_ | Hi dino. Doing okay |
| 17:14.26 | dino82_ | Great to hear! |
| 17:14.30 | dino82_ | Some nice new images have been uploaded! |
| 17:14.32 | dino82_ | Interessting |
| 17:16.58 | drom | I'm doing well too! |
| 17:20.04 | Xho | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/2c/ZBrushKicathBody.png/revision/latest?cb=20160810171902 Well pretty much done I guess |
| 17:20.19 | DrodoEmpire | Oh that's awesome |
| 17:20.28 | DrodoEmpire | I like the colours a lot |
| 17:20.48 | Xho | It has been enhanced a lot, the actual model is much darker |
| 17:22.27 | drom | Xho: You mean you are using bright scene/render lightning? |
| 17:22.40 | Xho | Nope, enhaced the image in GIMP |
| 17:22.47 | drom | I see. |
| 17:23.34 | Xho | I used a Spore screenshot for the reflective map |
| 17:23.50 | Xho | Turns out the Kicath almost appear green in Paclernos' atmosphere |
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| 17:32.07 | Imperios | Hi |
| 17:32.22 | Imperios | drom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr_Nsbtkz1M&index=1&list=FLVgk3MXpU_EN_qzFHEbMfCg Love this video |
| 17:33.58 | drom | Imperios: Love that little cute Swiss flag |
| 17:34.25 | drom | But yes. I hate it when multimedia deliever the news without the context behind their story. |
| 17:36.02 | drom | Reminds me of that busdriver in the local traffic service. He was filmed swatting on an immigrant. The multimedia shipped it with the busdriver labelled as a "racist swine" and "nazi" |
| 17:37.00 | drom | The true story was revealed one week later by a smaller newspaper, local one too. The immigrant is a know troublemaker who harash the public transport with their own rules. |
| 17:37.06 | drom | known even |
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| 17:47.13 | Imperios | Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cENbkHS3mnY Ohgod that sounds cool |
| 17:47.19 | Imperios | DoooKH-taahr |
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| 17:50.03 | Charles_Bot | DrodoEmpire Imperios Wormy_away Tek0516 Christ |
| 17:50.17 | Imperios | Christ isn't online I am afraid |
| 17:50.38 | Imperios | Left like almost 2000 years ago and promised to log in one day |
| 17:50.40 | Imperios | He's like GD12 |
| 17:50.42 | Imperios | Left for breakfast |
| 17:51.14 | Quark8 | ~seen Christ |
| 17:51.14 | infobot | Quark8: i haven't seen 'christ' |
| 17:51.20 | Charles_Bot | My office hadn't realized that the "Institute for Middle East Truth" was a Republican think tank when they sent me to he briefing |
| 17:51.23 | Charles_Bot | The* |
| 17:51.59 | DrodoEmpire | Oh wow |
| 17:52.04 | Imperios | Ohgod must have been fun |
| 17:52.10 | Imperios | You should have just blended in |
| 17:52.32 | Imperios | Affect a Southern drawl and complain about dem commies ruining Muhrica |
| 17:53.02 | Charles_Bot | So I found myself in a room full of Republicans, listening to speakers RAIL on Turkey and (implicitly) on the Obama administration's foreign policy. I had Trump grannies right behind me who were muttering about Clinton breaking the law and her in effectual Middle East policy |
| 17:53.09 | Charles_Bot | And it got so much better |
| 17:53.24 | Charles_Bot | There was a guy from the Turkish embassy in the audience |
| 17:53.28 | Charles_Bot | Holy crap |
| 17:53.46 | Charles_Bot | The guy tried to speak to defend his country, but they shut him down |
| 17:54.18 | Charles_Bot | And the speakers proceeded to angrily strip his objections to shreds in tones of thinly veiled anger and contempt |
| 17:55.04 | Charles_Bot | I'm white, so I blended in just fine |
| 17:55.23 | Charles_Bot | But weirdly someone asked what my ethnicity was |
| 17:55.28 | Charles_Bot | Me - ...? |
| 17:55.40 | Charles_Bot | First time I've been asked that in my life |
| 17:55.55 | Charles_Bot | Aside from the SAT, that is |
| 17:56.48 | Imperios | inb4 surrender jokes |
| 17:56.59 | Imperios | >First time I've been asked that in my life |
| 17:57.11 | *** join/#sporewiki AdmiralPanda (65b30e25@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.179.14.37) |
| 17:57.14 | Imperios | Ooooh now you understand how it feels |
| 17:57.15 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
| 17:57.28 | Imperios | Did they say it just blunt and up front? |
| 17:57.31 | AdmiralPanda | why does that sentence fill me with dread about the current topic? |
| 17:57.38 | Imperios | Not like "where are you from" "where are your ancestors from" etc? |
| 17:57.56 | Imperios | AdmiralPanda: Charles had to survive working with Republicans |
| 17:57.57 | Charles_Bot | That was a quote lol |
| 17:58.09 | Imperios | Wow |
| 17:58.15 | Imperios | Hi Panda |
| 17:58.16 | Charles_Bot | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/bRNgtMxs/IMG_0853.PNG |
| 17:58.30 | Charles_Bot | To fill you in Panda |
| 17:58.48 | AdmiralPanda | right |
| 17:58.54 | Charles_Bot | My office sent me to a briefing given by what turned out to be a Republican think-tank |
| 17:58.54 | DrodoEmpire | In normal conversation it can be fun to discuss ancestry and stuff- seems utterly inappropriate in a *think tank* |
| 17:59.10 | AdmiralPanda | at least people aren't arguing, so I'ma go back to watching Epic Rap Battles of History |
| 17:59.16 | Charles_Bot | K |
| 17:59.45 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Yeah it is, it is often amusing |
| 18:00.07 | Imperios | Non-Russian people are often dumbstruck that I am from Russia |
| 18:00.18 | Imperios | Russians are dumbfounded that there are Koreans in Russia |
| 18:00.33 | DrodoEmpire | Strikes me as odd that they'd be surprised- seems like a pretty logical thing to me there'd be Koreans in Russia |
| 18:00.47 | DrodoEmpire | They're close to eachother and Russia historically had involvement in East Asia |
| 18:00.55 | Charles_Bot | Imperios: She asked me that in response to me telling her what my name was lol |
| 18:01.04 | Imperios | Ohgod |
| 18:01.12 | Imperios | do you have a very French-y name or something? |
| 18:01.25 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: It's mostly the young people that are surprised |
| 18:01.33 | Charles_Bot | French-German-Scandinavian |
| 18:01.34 | Imperios | Soviet-era old people usually have met a Korean or two in their life |
| 18:01.45 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 18:01.46 | Charles_Bot | So not obviously French |
| 18:01.56 | Imperios | But people my age, yeah it takes some explaining |
| 18:02.08 | DrodoEmpire | Right, right |
| 18:03.36 | Imperios | That, and Russia is big |
| 18:03.53 | Wormy_away | Charles_Bot: I'd have great fun tempting them to be as horrible as possible foir my own amusement |
| 18:04.12 | Imperios | Koreans have historically been concentrated in Central Asia (which now is no longer Russian), and before that, in the Russian Far East |
| 18:04.45 | Wormy_away | Like how Sacha Baron Cohen playing as his alter ego Borat got relativewly normal people to be antisemitic while Cohen is in fact Jewish |
| 18:04.47 | Imperios | We've just kind of spread everywhere else after Stalin's death |
| 18:04.57 | Imperios | Wormy_away: THROW THE JEW DOWN THE WELL |
| 18:05.00 | Imperios | SO MY COUNTRY CAN BE FREE |
| 18:05.01 | Wormy_away | lol |
| 18:05.17 | Imperios | There are actually no Jews in Kazakhstan |
| 18:06.25 | Wormy_away | Here he gets a hunter to joke about hunting black people and the Jewish https://youtu.be/DvZVZ8h1p4Q?t=1m13s |
| 18:06.27 | Charles_Bot | Wormy_away: Well the thing is that they mean well. What I'm describing is the culture shock |
| 18:06.31 | Imperios | Like 5 thousand or so |
| 18:10.14 | Tek0516 | Charles_Bot: that day sounds like the worst of every conservative American stereotype at once. |
| 18:11.20 | Xho | "Within 24 hours of the game's official launch, Hello Games reported that more than 10 million distinct species were registered by players, exceeding the estimated 8.7 million species believed to exist on Earth." |
| 18:11.21 | Charles_Bot | I know right? |
| 18:11.28 | Xho | dammit no man's sky y u do dis |
| 18:11.40 | Wormy_away | Soon it will beat Spore's creation count |
| 18:11.57 | Wormy_away | checks the number of shared creations |
| 18:12.17 | Xho | 180 million or something |
| 18:12.19 | Wormy_away | 189,405,896 |
| 18:12.24 | Imperios | What is that no man sky thing |
| 18:12.28 | Xho | No Man's Sky |
| 18:12.30 | Xho | the game u dunce |
| 18:12.35 | Xho | Like Spore's Space Stage Ultra |
| 18:12.40 | Imperios | So like Stellaris |
| 18:12.44 | Wormy_away | How could you not have heard of it??? |
| 18:12.58 | Wormy_away | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Man%27s_Sky |
| 18:13.00 | Tek0516 | Not a strategy game, it's an exploration one mostly AFAIK |
| 18:13.02 | DrodoEmpire | No, not Stellaris |
| 18:13.07 | Ghel | The focus on planetside exploration makes me think it's more like Spore Galactic Adventures, but without the adventures. |
| 18:13.14 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah its a first-person exploration |
| 18:13.29 | Imperios | Wormy_away: It is the one that Hachiman complained about right? |
| 18:13.35 | Wormy_away | Imperios: trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBERVWYa-1Y |
| 18:13.36 | Wormy_away | yeah |
| 18:13.38 | Imperios | So I take that it isn't very good |
| 18:13.42 | DrodoEmpire | Nooo |
| 18:13.48 | Wormy_away | Please don't |
| 18:13.48 | DrodoEmpire | People're loving it |
| 18:13.57 | Xho | There are no full reviews yet |
| 18:13.58 | Hachiman | Well |
| 18:14.03 | Xho | Mainly because it hasn't been released yet |
| 18:14.04 | Tek0516 | Let's not go down that argument again though, please. |
| 18:14.06 | DrodoEmpire | Really it seems like its part-Spore, part-Elite Dangerous, part-GTA and a lot of its own stuff |
| 18:14.18 | DrodoEmpire | Xho: Launched on Playstation yesterday I do believe |
| 18:14.22 | Xho | rite |
| 18:14.24 | DrodoEmpire | PC release is the 12th |
| 18:14.29 | Xho | console untermenschen |
| 18:14.32 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 18:14.34 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: Part-Space Engine as well |
| 18:14.35 | Xho | konsoluntermenschen |
| 18:14.39 | DrodoEmpire | Ohh yeah |
| 18:14.42 | DrodoEmpire | Space Engine |
| 18:15.18 | Quark8 | Hm. it's a shame that I probably won't be able to play till I come back from India. |
| 18:15.23 | Xho | >India |
| 18:15.25 | DrodoEmpire | Oh you're in India? |
| 18:15.25 | Xho | y u going to india |
| 18:15.44 | Imperios | Right |
| 18:16.00 | Quark8 | Family. |
| 18:16.01 | Xho | dunt pollute my homeland with ur white skin (>tfw Xho is also white) |
| 18:16.10 | Quark8 | I'm brown. |
| 18:16.10 | Imperios | Xho: https://lenta.ru/articles/2016/08/09/boss/ Looking for pokemons inside a Bosch painting |
| 18:16.12 | Xho | Anyway hypocrisy aside |
| 18:16.24 | Xho | Quark8: You've got Indian heritage as well? |
| 18:16.25 | Imperios | Quark8: Was it you who played WoW, remind me? |
| 18:16.33 | Tek0516 | I'd say bit of a combination of Spore Space Stage, Elite:Dangerous, and Space Engine with a focus on the exploration aspects of all of them. |
| 18:16.39 | Imperios | Xho: If he has family there I would think so |
| 18:16.45 | DrodoEmpire | Tek: Yeah |
| 18:16.46 | Xho | I'M NOT ALONE ON THIS CESSPIT OF A WIKI MWAHAHA |
| 18:16.51 | Xho | cough |
| 18:17.04 | DrodoEmpire | As much as I dislike the whole "part x part y" way of describing stuff |
| 18:17.04 | OluapPlayer_ | yes you are eatus shittus |
| 18:17.23 | Xho | Alright racism and operating system fascism mode over |
| 18:17.44 | Quark8 | Imperios: If by WoW you mean World of Warcraft, then now. |
| 18:17.51 | Hachiman | Xho: Only reason people would ever call you on Skype is for tech support |
| 18:17.56 | Xho | ouch |
| 18:18.02 | Xho | I'm actually white though |
| 18:18.07 | Wormy_away | I really look forward to explore the richness of the procedural generation. People are saying it will get samey, but my experience of Space Engine shows that procedural generation can throw up a lot of randomised beauty |
| 18:18.12 | Xho | Well, olive skinned white |
| 18:18.20 | Hachiman | ur an oliv |
| 18:18.26 | OluapPlayer_ | Ultimately a white skeleton |
| 18:18.47 | Hachiman | Not all skeletons are white |
| 18:19.08 | OluapPlayer_ | That's what skeletons want you to believe |
| 18:19.12 | Imperios | I am... eh... |
| 18:19.14 | Wormy_away | I hear that planets and life can also evolve, but I'm not sure I trust that old claim now |
| 18:19.14 | Imperios | Light orange? |
| 18:19.16 | Hachiman | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hod0WtYE4SA |
| 18:19.38 | Quark8 | Xho: What part of India are your ancestors from? |
| 18:19.44 | Xho | Northern India |
| 18:19.44 | OluapPlayer_ | Skeleton Nigga is an exception |
| 18:20.02 | Wormy_away | I'm a very hairy white person |
| 18:20.14 | Imperios | Quark8 Xho: One good thing about your country: best anthem ever |
| 18:20.26 | Imperios | Okay Israel and Russia come closer |
| 18:20.35 | Wormy_away | Enough to stand out from most English at least |
| 18:20.40 | Imperios | Maybe Afghanistan and Azerbaijan |
| 18:20.44 | Wormy_away | *white-English |
| 18:20.52 | Xho | I'm not totally sure though, since my family migrated from India we don't have anything further back than 1888 |
| 18:21.02 | Xho | That's only three generations back as well |
| 18:21.07 | Quark8 | I'm half from Tamil Nadu (dad's side) and Kerala (mom's side). |
| 18:21.36 | Imperios | My mother's ancestors are from Gyeongju, that's about all that I know |
| 18:21.51 | Quark8 | I can trace stuff on my mom's side back to her grandmother, but on my father's side I can only go as far back as my paternal parents. |
| 18:22.20 | Xho | My grandparents were English speaking unfortunately although I'm led to believe they were conversational in Urdu |
| 18:22.28 | Xho | British Raj was fun times |
| 18:22.29 | Imperios | Xho: >Urdu |
| 18:22.39 | Imperios | TRYIN' TO TAKE THEI' LA' |
| 18:22.47 | Imperios | ALL OVE' OU' COONTRE' |
| 18:23.00 | Hachiman | ur doo |
| 18:23.19 | DrodoEmpire | I'm like three-quarters Scottish and a quarter French, myself |
| 18:23.56 | Imperios | Hachiman: The word "urdu" is actually cognate with "horde", i.e. "language of the Horde" |
| 18:24.14 | Hachiman | >Horde |
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| 18:24.25 | Imperios | Islamabadgrimmar |
| 18:24.26 | Hachiman | LOK'TAR OGAR |
| 18:24.33 | Wormy_away | I'm a mix bag, I have Polish, Russian, Irish, Northern English (and Dane on that side) and Jewish ancestry |
| 18:25.04 | Imperios | Warchief Muhammad Ali Jinnahscream |
| 18:25.12 | Xho | I also probably have some Portuguese blood somewhere as well |
| 18:25.21 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: Where does Urdu, or rather Urdo-speakers originate? |
| 18:25.25 | DrodoEmpire | Central Asia I presume? |
| 18:25.30 | DrodoEmpire | *Urdu |
| 18:25.32 | Xho | Pakistan mostly |
| 18:25.44 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 18:26.00 | Wormy_away | There's a suggestion my Jewish ancestors came from Spain and moved up North |
| 18:26.14 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: It's basically Hindi but more Turkic and Persian-influenced |
| 18:26.15 | Xho | My grandmother was from Karachi and my grandfather was from Delhi |
| 18:26.18 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 18:26.21 | Wormy_away | When the Spanish forced them out |
| 18:26.26 | Imperios | So yeah the name comes from the Turkic languages |
| 18:26.31 | DrodoEmpire | Makes sense |
| 18:26.44 | Imperios | "Urdu" in that case means "imperial soldiers" or something |
| 18:26.48 | Imperios | The Imperial Horde |
| 18:26.56 | DrodoEmpire | Turkic peoples did live as a horse people, most of them |
| 18:27.44 | Xho | Quark8: Reminds me of this brilliant conversation when I was in school, two of my friends were Indian and they were just insulting each other, although one of them was speaking Hindi and the other Malayalam |
| 18:27.53 | Xho | Absolute nonsense but hilarious |
| 18:27.54 | Quark8 | Heh. |
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| 18:28.06 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o The_Randomness] by ChanServ |
| 18:28.11 | Quark8 | Hello Randomness. |
| 18:28.44 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 18:28.57 | DrodoEmpire | Hi Random |
| 18:29.48 | Imperios | Xho: But they understood each other |
| 18:29.57 | Xho | Not really no |
| 18:30.03 | Xho | Hindi and Malayalam are quite different |
| 18:30.07 | Quark8 | Yep. |
| 18:30.34 | Xho | They did understand the insults but that's all they understood of one another |
| 18:30.42 | Xho | Mainly because they used the insults a lot |
| 18:30.53 | Quark8 | Were they vulgar? |
| 18:31.10 | Xho | Not really no |
| 18:31.21 | Xho | Things like "Son of an elephant" |
| 18:31.55 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 18:31.55 | Imperios | Hm |
| 18:32.05 | Imperios | Xho Quark8: What would happen if I call an Indian woman a cow |
| 18:32.08 | Imperios | *will |
| 18:32.16 | Xho | More than likely an insult |
| 18:32.29 | Quark8 | ^ |
| 18:32.49 | Xho | Quark's the one to talk about Indian culture, I only know about 5% of it |
| 18:32.59 | AdmiralPanda | just because you worship beef doesn't necessarily mean you want to be beef :P |
| 18:33.31 | Wormy_away | It also might be a bit of an odd insult |
| 18:34.13 | DrodoEmpire | I figure it'd be |
| 18:34.31 | Tek0516 | Apparently my ancestry is pretty English on both sides of the family, with little bits of stuff like Irish in there somewhere. |
| 18:35.16 | Quark8 | Huh. I knew that cousin marriage and uncle-niece marriage was a thing in South India, but I'm still surprised that my aunt married her cousin. |
| 18:37.17 | Hachiman | Well |
| 18:37.20 | Hachiman | That's kind of weird |
| 18:38.09 | Imperios | Quark8: As in her cousin, or your cousin/her nephew |
| 18:38.19 | Quark8 | Her cousin. |
| 18:39.01 | Quark8 | I don't think aunt-nephew marriages happen much in that area. |
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| 18:40.50 | Quark8 | Their kids are genetically healthy though. |
| 18:41.05 | Charles_Bot | Hey Quark8 |
| 18:41.21 | Quark8 | Yes, Charles? |
| 18:41.33 | Charles_Bot | Want to join the Grand Commonwealth of Sovereign States with the Siranian Directorate? |
| 18:42.31 | Quark8 | Hm. |
| 18:44.12 | Quark8 | I can see the Directorate's government not being too keen on it, and due to Siran's current situation opposition to that notion would not have an impact. |
| 18:46.00 | OluapPlayer_ | I just found out there were once maltese giant swams who were 2 meters big from bill to tail |
| 18:46.05 | OluapPlayer_ | Small swams are bad enough |
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| 18:50.22 | OluapPlayer_ | Swan even |
| 18:50.48 | OluapPlayer_ | https://gwawinapterus.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/161.jpg things like swans shouldn't be allowed to be man-sized |
| 18:51.48 | DrodoEmpire | Jeez |
| 18:52.22 | OluapPlayer_ | Swans are birds who still remember how to act like dinosaurs |
| 18:52.25 | OluapPlayer_ | Aggressive little shits |
| 18:52.26 | Xho | GOD SAVE THE QUEEN |
| 18:52.38 | Hachiman | Holy shit what the fuck |
| 18:52.39 | AdmiralPanda | man-swan - I AM YOUR QUEEN NOW |
| 18:53.28 | Hachiman | That's bigger than a man |
| 18:54.02 | Wormy_away | I used to live part time on a boat. Those things could actually come on board or knock the side loudly to demand food |
| 18:54.10 | OluapPlayer_ | They stood taller than the dwarf elephants who lived with them at the time and were probably too heavy to fly |
| 18:54.44 | Ghel | Their being dwarf elephants puts the picture into perspective. |
| 18:55.02 | OluapPlayer_ | Yeah those aren't african elephants or anything of the short |
| 18:55.11 | OluapPlayer_ | But today's swans are small |
| 18:55.17 | OluapPlayer_ | These were man-sized |
| 18:55.37 | OluapPlayer_ | sort* |
| 18:55.41 | Imperios | drom Hachiman DrodoEmpire Xho Charles_Bot: https://2ch.hk/po/src/17702185/14708394371180.webm |
| 18:55.51 | Wormy_away | Where was this by any chance? Not Indonesia, because it had Hobbit people once that would certainly be like having swans bigger than men (and the elephants would be more like regular size to the Hobbits) |
| 18:56.05 | Wormy_away | *Was it Indonesia? |
| 18:56.37 | OluapPlayer_ | Sicily and Malta |
| 18:57.11 | Wormy_away | So a different dwarf elephant subspecies |
| 18:57.33 | Wormy_away | The Hobbit people did have to content with giant monitor lizards and rats |
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| 18:57.41 | Wormy_away | *contend |
| 18:57.49 | OluapPlayer_ | From what I'm reading these swans predate human presence in the islands |
| 18:58.00 | OluapPlayer_ | As in, they were already extinct by the time humans got there |
| 18:58.06 | dino82_ | first Cogsangui Cadet in service of Rambo Command: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Volerx_AteesheCadetLarge.png |
| 18:58.16 | Ghel | Wormy_away: Something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palaeoloxodon_falconeri instead of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stegodon |
| 18:58.31 | OluapPlayer_ | Cogsangui without armor |
| 18:58.33 | OluapPlayer_ | weird |
| 18:58.38 | Hachiman | Looks weird seeing Cogsangui without armour |
| 18:58.51 | OluapPlayer_ | fuk off |
| 18:59.03 | Imperios | dino82_: Volerx - THEY MAKE US GO NAKED HELP |
| 18:59.31 | OluapPlayer_ | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Tanystropheus_BW.jpg "heard you been talking shit" |
| 18:59.41 | dino82_ | @Imperios: Lol |
| 18:59.44 | Wormy_away | Ah, possible origin of the Cyclops legend |
| 18:59.58 | Hachiman | The Cyclops legend came about when Greeks saw elephant skulls |
| 19:00.13 | Wormy_away | Indeed |
| 19:00.23 | Hachiman | They looked like the skulls of one-eyed, tusked giants |
| 19:00.49 | Imperios | Wormy_away: https://2ch.hk/po/src/17702185/14708394371180.webm What will happen to the American flag in Russia |
| 19:00.53 | Imperios | *What happs |
| 19:00.55 | Imperios | *What happens |
| 19:01.04 | Imperios | *What happens to American flags |
| 19:02.00 | Wormy_away | The Aboriginal Australians had to deal with giant Marsupial mammals, including carnivores and a giant lizard related to the Komodo dragon (but gigantic) |
| 19:02.13 | OluapPlayer_ | Megalania? |
| 19:02.23 | Wormy_away | Some suggest the Bunyip might be a culturally passed down memory of these creatures |
| 19:02.32 | Wormy_away | Yes |
| 19:02.37 | AdmiralPanda | hehehe bunyip |
| 19:02.43 | OluapPlayer_ | It'd be awesome to see a living megalania |
| 19:02.45 | OluapPlayer_ | They were huge |
| 19:02.45 | Wormy_away | Not messing with that https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/Varanus_priscus_Melbourne_Museum.jpg |
| 19:03.12 | Wormy_away | Wouldn't like to be hunted by a Komodo dragon either |
| 19:04.43 | OluapPlayer_ | Born too late to see all the cool giant animals live |
| 19:04.56 | Wormy_away | Imperios: What is it doing in Russia thats the question |
| 19:05.47 | Hachiman | Born too early to explore space |
| 19:05.58 | Hachiman | Born just at the right time to shitpost copypasta |
| 19:06.03 | OluapPlayer_ | http://i.4cdn.org/an/1468786683780.jpg this is the happiest crocodile I've ever seen |
| 19:06.48 | AdmiralPanda | I've seen happier, baby crocodiles literally can't not smile |
| 19:07.03 | OluapPlayer_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Araripesuchus_wegeneri here it is |
| 19:07.09 | OluapPlayer_ | It's like a reptilian dog |
| 19:08.02 | Imperios | Wormy_away: https://2ch.hk/po/src/17702185/14708533625831.webm |
| 19:08.44 | Wormy_away | Did they screw up Putin? |
| 19:08.56 | OluapPlayer_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalicothere real life Mahanayans |
| 19:09.26 | Imperios | Wormy_away: Apparently they were actually on a protest, and their flags were to show their loyalty |
| 19:09.37 | Xho | OluapPlayer: damn son |
| 19:09.39 | Imperios | "We love the government, and we hope it would take our needs into consideration" |
| 19:09.42 | Imperios | *it will |
| 19:09.52 | Imperios | Wormy_away drom: https://2ch.hk/po/src/17702185/14708533625831.webm Russian nationalists |
| 19:10.06 | OluapPlayer_ | "The western lowland gorilla (Gorilla gorilla gorilla)" |
| 19:10.11 | OluapPlayer_ | Someone was really lazy with that name |
| 19:11.27 | Wormy_away | I love the Creodont and Mesonychid carnivores (in no way related to modern Carnivorans). Less agile, adaptable or intelligent than modern day Carnivorans, but they were often much bigger and had bigger jaws. |
| 19:11.28 | OluapPlayer_ | The western gorilla, also known as the gorilla³ |
| 19:11.42 | Hachiman | >Gorilla |
| 19:11.53 | Hachiman | RIP Harambe |
| 19:12.01 | OluapPlayer_ | Fuck off |
| 19:12.20 | AdmiralPanda | basically Gorilla gorilla = any western gorilla cos at first ppl were dumb and didn't realise there were multiple kinds of western gorilla |
| 19:12.31 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 19:12.38 | OluapPlayer_ | Yeah but the name is still dumb |
| 19:12.44 | OluapPlayer_ | it's just gorilla twice/thrice |
| 19:12.45 | Hachiman | Reminds me of vulpes vulpes |
| 19:12.51 | Hachiman | Which is a red fox |
| 19:12.52 | OluapPlayer_ | Homo homo |
| 19:12.54 | OluapPlayer_ | aka Hachi |
| 19:12.55 | Imperios | Do not forget homo sapiens sapiens |
| 19:13.16 | AdmiralPanda | tbh it's the standard practice when there's no subdivision |
| 19:13.25 | OluapPlayer_ | That's not so bad. It could be Sapiens sapiens sapiens |
| 19:14.18 | Hachiman | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tautonyms There's a whole list |
| 19:14.23 | Wormy_away | Click to enlarge to see Sarkastodon and Andrewsarchus http://www.johnsibbick.com/library/display.asp?product=M1&page=1# |
| 19:14.34 | Imperios | Hachiman Xho: https://pp.vk.me/c637326/v637326336/5850/qA08-n4NDAs.jpg |
| 19:14.35 | Hachiman | >Mops mops |
| 19:14.56 | Xho | oh god |
| 19:15.19 | Hachiman | Optimus Prime - TAKE ME TO PAUL WALKER |
| 19:15.28 | Wormy_away | Meanwhile the ancestor of modern day Carnivorans slips through as the giants feast |
| 19:15.36 | OluapPlayer_ | Bubo bubo |
| 19:15.39 | OluapPlayer_ | Bob Bob |
| 19:17.00 | Hachiman | >Indicator indicator |
| 19:17.10 | Hachiman | Isn't that was most people shout while on UK roads |
| 19:17.17 | Hachiman | *what |
| 19:17.49 | Hachiman | Also I'm disappointed that "Pica pica" is a bird and not a lagomorph |
| 19:17.58 | AdmiralPanda | Hachiman: I think you're looking for the "Fucking wanker," it's a little further down the list |
| 19:18.24 | Hachiman | hur |
| 19:18.28 | Hachiman | >Troglodytes troglodytes |
| 19:18.37 | Hachiman | >Tyrannus tyrannus |
| 19:19.00 | Hachiman | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/02/Tyrannus-tyrannus-001.jpg/220px-Tyrannus-tyrannus-001.jpg This is a troglodyte apparently |
| 19:19.03 | OluapPlayer_ | Shame Cyrannian isn't here |
| 19:19.12 | Hachiman | No wait |
| 19:19.17 | OluapPlayer_ | Yeah the word troglodyte in taxon is used for a bird |
| 19:19.23 | Hachiman | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/Troglodytes_hiemalis_Central_Park_NY.jpg/220px-Troglodytes_hiemalis_Central_Park_NY.jpg This is a troglodyte |
| 19:19.36 | Hachiman | Like, I thought troglodytes were cave things |
| 19:19.58 | OluapPlayer_ | It's also a slang for cavemen |
| 19:20.05 | OluapPlayer_ | But it's not the taxon name of cavemen |
| 19:21.10 | OluapPlayer_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troglodyte |
| 19:21.16 | Imperios | Hachiman: I thought he was a rodent |
| 19:21.47 | Hachiman | Pikas are lagos |
| 19:22.06 | OluapPlayer_ | Are you talking about Pikachu? |
| 19:22.16 | Hachiman | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pika |
| 19:22.27 | OluapPlayer_ | Ah |
| 19:22.43 | OluapPlayer_ | Looks cuddly |
| 19:23.10 | Wormy_away | Looks like the mouse from Tom and Jerry |
| 19:23.47 | Wormy_away | (I know its not a mouse) |
| 19:36.27 | Wormy_away | DrodoEmpire, Hachiman: Cameraman who's job to film a nuclear explosion test dropped his goggles just befre detonation and recaccounts the experience https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mbkTGTafgM |
| 19:45.38 | DrodoAway | Sorry, I'ma go somewhere with friends >.< |
| 19:45.43 | DrodoAway | Will check it out after |
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| 20:00.11 | Xho | Hachiman OluapPlayer_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUnglD5-h9A&feature=youtu.be |
| 20:06.10 | OluapPlayer_ | hur |
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| 20:09.30 | Wormy_ | Stupid doggo http://imgur.com/gallery/toMr0 |
| 20:16.23 | The_Randomness | Wormy_: lol |
| 20:18.27 | Wormy_ | drom http://i.imgur.com/T06yPkY.gifv |
| 20:19.19 | Wormy_ | and http://i.imgur.com/Py3djC2.gifv |
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| 20:21.45 | The_Randomness | freenode y |
| 20:22.35 | Imperios | Hachiman: https://pp.vk.me/c631416/v631416219/4129b/1ehSt03dY3g.jpg |
| 20:22.56 | Hachiman | hur |
| 20:23.06 | Hachiman | Imperios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUnglD5-h9A Khoyan'Xa plays Call of Duty |
| 20:24.28 | Imperios | Hachiman: Where does this voice come from? |
| 20:24.45 | Hachiman | Apparently that's the guy doing the impression himself |
| 20:24.51 | Hachiman | No voice changer or soundboard |
| 20:25.02 | Imperios | Wow |
| 20:25.10 | Imperios | That language sounds authentic |
| 20:25.18 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 20:25.18 | Imperios | At least he knows how to do South African clicks |
| 20:25.47 | Hachiman | Yeah that's impressive |
| 20:26.57 | Hachiman | Is it bad that even though you said that you'd make the Khoyan'Xa contrast with the stereotype of primitive, bloodthirsty barbarians, I still want to see them practice voodoo, blood magic, and generally be brutal hur |
| 20:27.50 | Imperios | They are brutal |
| 20:27.53 | Imperios | They are just organised at it |
| 20:27.59 | Imperios | Like black Nazis |
| 20:28.26 | Hachiman | Bit of a jump |
| 20:28.35 | Xho | Caligavoodoo |
| 20:28.36 | Xho | nao |
| 20:30.11 | Hachiman | I can imagine the Khoyan'Xa making the Freelanders look like pansies by comparison to their rituals and whatnot |
| 20:31.29 | Xho | Their Ximicacan level is greater than or equal to Ximicacan |
| 20:38.45 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NlhjzyvOIk&feature=youtu.be I got bored so I made SPACE |
| 20:43.08 | Monet | Mystic |
| 20:45.07 | Monet | You have talent |
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| 20:47.36 | Cyrannian | Hai |
| 20:47.49 | OluapPlayer_ | ~eat Cyrannian |
| 20:47.49 | infobot | ACTION slurps up all the Cyrannian available |
| 20:47.58 | Cyrannian | ~drink OluapPlayer_ |
| 20:47.58 | infobot | drinks OluapPlayer_ in one swig, turns blue, green, and ultraviolet, and then vomits OluapPlayer_ across the room |
| 20:53.57 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/hVTIxhC.png |
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| 21:00.25 | AdmiralPanda | Wormy_: Hachi following his (doomed) olympic dreams |
| 21:01.20 | The_Randomness | savage |
| 21:02.03 | Wormy_ | rekt |
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| 21:15.24 | The_Randomness | Hey Charles |
| 21:18.32 | drom | I'm tired |
| 21:18.41 | drom | I've so many emotions |
| 21:19.42 | drom | I feel like I'm hanging on eternal rage, watery sadness and flowering happiness. All of them at once. |
| 21:19.58 | The_Randomness | interesting |
| 21:20.59 | Xho | Drom: consume them all and become a sociopath |
| 21:21.37 | Wormy_ | Its called melancholy. |
| 21:22.28 | Wormy_ | It can be good and sublime in small amounts http://www.contempaesthetics.org/newvolume/pages/article.php?articleID=214 |
| 21:23.05 | Xho | Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZGIMNplzAQ I should do an electronic/metal version of this |
| 21:24.26 | drom | hugs Charles_Murray without any warning or hesistation |
| 21:24.53 | Wormy_ | Some melancholic tracks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeLuQ6X2ixI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AWIqXzvX-U |
| 21:25.01 | Charles_Murray | I have attracted a spore |
| 21:25.05 | Charles_Murray | *hugs back* |
| 21:29.16 | The_Randomness | webchat? |
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| 21:36.27 | Xho | https://www.facebook.com/getinthesea/photos/a.1448894545404836.1073741827.1448892482071709/1597461987214757/?type=3&theater |
| 21:37.10 | Technobliterator | Charles_Murray, seen http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Union_Republic_of_Ottzello/Government/Parties yet? |
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| 21:37.18 | OluapPlayer_ | return of waptor |
| 21:37.21 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 21:38.41 | AdmiralPanda | Xho: "They can tell me Pacific time when they're at the bottom of the fucking Mariana Trench" |
| 21:38.45 | Charles_Murray | Not yet, I'll take a look! |
| 21:38.50 | AdmiralPanda | gdi that's some quality right there |
| 21:38.51 | Xho | 10/10 |
| 21:38.56 | Xho | It's a good site in general |
| 21:39.03 | Xho | Just angry, angry banter |
| 21:39.26 | AdmiralPanda | that ain't even banter, that's just verbal massacre and I love it |
| 21:39.43 | Quark8 | Which site? |
| 21:42.31 | Imperios | Technobliterator: >Da Gangsta Party |
| 21:42.32 | Imperios | Best |
| 21:42.41 | Technobliterator | Indeed |
| 21:42.55 | Imperios | The names look a bit generic, but maybe it is better that way |
| 21:44.10 | Imperios | I think the former Soviet Union is more of an exception when it comes to party names |
| 21:44.13 | Imperios | Ours are a bit fancier |
| 21:44.28 | Technobliterator | They're generic deliberately |
| 21:44.30 | Imperios | Not just Russia, all post-Soviet countries |
| 21:44.55 | Technobliterator | They're supposed to be alien, this is just the translation of what their names mean |
| 21:45.12 | Imperios | I am not sure what kind of names do parties have in Europe |
| 21:46.03 | Monet | Fairly generic for the most part. |
| 21:46.20 | Quark8 | There's one called the Official Monster Raving Loony Party. |
| 21:46.32 | Charles_Murray | Technobliterator : Might want to desaturate some colors, some are really taxing on the eyes |
| 21:46.35 | Imperios | Right so it's normal in most countries |
| 21:46.46 | Charles_Murray | especially the bright red and blue |
| 21:46.51 | Technobliterator | yeah, I've been told that |
| 21:46.55 | Technobliterator | I provably will do |
| 21:46.57 | Charles_Murray | The black-on-red is particularly ow |
| 21:47.05 | Technobliterator | when I next edit |
| 21:47.07 | Charles_Murray | But otherwise great detail and diversity |
| 21:47.07 | AdmiralPanda | we have mostly normal-sounding ones, then we have a couple of weird ones |
| 21:47.35 | Imperios | Technobliterator: The Libertarians look like they want to bring the BCN back basically |
| 21:47.44 | Technobliterator | haha yeah |
| 21:47.45 | Imperios | "Don't tread on me reeeeeeeeee" |
| 21:47.46 | Cyrannian | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland#Parties_and_groupings_represented_in_the_Oireachtas - We use most party names in the original Gaelic Irish rather than translating them to English |
| 21:48.14 | Charles_Murray | In France, we literally have the "Center-Left Party." It is a center-left party. |
| 21:48.22 | Monet | But in French. |
| 21:48.38 | Charles_Murray | Aye |
| 21:48.39 | Imperios | Cyrannian: Isn't like one third of the country not proficient in Irish in Ireland? |
| 21:48.52 | AdmiralPanda | about the weirdest party name we have is the Australian Sex Party |
| 21:49.37 | Monet | Technobliterator: Yeah the bright yellow is discomforting to the eyes. It might be because of the wiki's dark background though |
| 21:49.46 | Monet | The dark makes the yellow bolder. |
| 21:49.52 | Cyrannian | Imperios: It's the third most spoken language after English and Polish, so aye |
| 21:50.10 | Imperios | Meanwhile, we have "United Russia", "Just Russia", "Just Cause", "People's Freedom" (also known as PARNASSUS, basically the anti-Putin guys), "People's Union" |
| 21:50.25 | Monet | AdmiralPanda: "Austrailian Sex Party" certainly beats "Monster Raving Looney Party" |
| 21:50.29 | Imperios | and "the Apple" |
| 21:50.34 | Imperios | Or rather APPLE |
| 21:50.39 | Imperios | IT is some sort of abbreviation |
| 21:50.45 | Monet | The Apple sounds like a newspaper. |
| 21:50.55 | Imperios | THere are like two parties with normal names in Russia |
| 21:51.02 | Imperios | THe Liberal-Democratic Party |
| 21:51.05 | Imperios | Which is actually far-right |
| 21:51.09 | Imperios | somehow |
| 21:51.13 | Imperios | And led by our Trump |
| 21:51.16 | AdmiralPanda | I'm slightly ashamed to admit they're the ones I voted for last election, mainly because they actually have a sensible, progressive platform |
| 21:52.11 | Imperios | And, well, the good ol' Communist Party |
| 21:52.15 | Wormy_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Zebabist_Nation_of_Ooog |
| 21:53.02 | Wormy_ | Their broadcasts and manifesto are strange https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9Gn04SLiyY |
| 21:54.40 | Tek0516 | Most major Canadian parties are literal named: Liberal Party, Conservative Party, Bloc Quebecois (Quebec Bloc), Green Party, I guess New Democratic Party somewhat counts. |
| 21:54.59 | Imperios | Cyrannian: So you give parties names that half of the country can't understand? |
| 21:55.43 | Cyrannian | yus, though Irish is a compulsory language in both primary and secondary schools, so most people have at least a partial knowledge of it |
| 21:56.29 | Quark8 | Can you speak Irish fluently? |
| 21:56.40 | Xho | Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6-7h5Dfiso |
| 21:56.57 | Hachiman | Saw that the other day |
| 21:57.02 | Hachiman | tis funi |
| 21:57.45 | Cyrannian | Quark8: Nope, but I can have a disjointed and awkward conversation :P |
| 21:59.16 | Imperios | Charles_Murray: Looking at Republican discussions - TBH they remind me the most of the modern Russian Communist PArty |
| 21:59.34 | Imperios | Conservative, wary of the outside world, favoured mostly by old people |
| 21:59.39 | Wormy_ | Some people have dialects so thick in the towns where I live its like a whole other language |
| 21:59.44 | Monet | Reminds me of how the motto for the Oxford University is in Latin. So half the country doesn't know what "dominia inusto illumea" means. |
| 21:59.47 | Imperios | Hell, modern Russian communists are actually okay with religion |
| 22:00.02 | Imperios | Monet: It is a university |
| 22:00.02 | Wormy_ | I actually carry a whole book to interpret |
| 22:00.17 | Imperios | You will learn the meaning of the motto if you go to Oxford, duh |
| 22:00.37 | Monet | Yes that is true. |
| 22:00.47 | Hachiman | I'm a modern communist and I'm not okay with religion |
| 22:00.58 | Wormy_ | http://www.countrysidebooks.co.uk/book-catalogue-book-details.php?book=511 |
| 22:00.58 | Monet | But anyone not of the university is unlikely ot know what those words mean in English. |
| 22:01.01 | Imperios | You are not a modern RUSSIAN commnuist |
| 22:01.10 | Imperios | bro do you even squat |
| 22:01.37 | Xho | BRO DO YOU EVEN ICE PICK |
| 22:01.50 | Wormy_ | Better Dead than Red :/ |
| 22:02.11 | Technobliterator | Alright, updated |
| 22:02.20 | Technobliterator | Should be fine now |
| 22:02.35 | Imperios | Hachiman: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/64/c2/fd/64c2fd862487164424cd858803abe4de.jpg |
| 22:03.02 | Hachiman | hur |
| 22:03.23 | Imperios | Monet: What's the motto of your uni? |
| 22:04.46 | Monet | I'm not entirely sure. It's a fairly modern one so it's likely in English for one. |
| 22:04.58 | Cyrannian | Mine is Ad Astra, to the stars |
| 22:05.14 | Imperios | "Hic tuta perennat" |
| 22:05.30 | Imperios | "There, safely lasts" |
| 22:05.34 | Imperios | Safely last... what |
| 22:05.42 | Imperios | Tis a mystery motto |
| 22:06.02 | Charles_Murray | Technobliterator |
| 22:06.04 | Charles_Murray | Use shades |
| 22:06.06 | Charles_Murray | Not color |
| 22:06.08 | Charles_Murray | s |
| 22:06.19 | Charles_Murray | shades of colors |
| 22:06.26 | Technobliterator | I did |
| 22:06.28 | Xho | NIL IGITUR MORS EST AD NOS |
| 22:06.35 | Monet | I'm studying at what is mostly a fashion university. |
| 22:06.55 | Hachiman | Xho: Read that as IL NIGUR |
| 22:07.07 | Charles_Murray | Might want to desaturate them more |
| 22:07.12 | Xho | 2much african drug lord |
| 22:07.22 | Imperios | Xho: Where does that even come from? |
| 22:07.25 | Hachiman | watchu say bout my mudda |
| 22:07.32 | Imperios | Some classical work? |
| 22:07.56 | Imperios | Bah tfw when I am technically a linguist but know no classics |
| 22:07.58 | Imperios | Not even Latin |
| 22:08.09 | Hachiman | Why even live |
| 22:08.30 | Xho | Imperios: Lucretrius |
| 22:08.31 | Monet | Ah found my university's motto |
| 22:08.35 | Xho | I can't type |
| 22:08.39 | Monet | "We create extraordinary" |
| 22:08.39 | Xho | Lucretius |
| 22:10.34 | Monet | I'm studying at a creative design college so our motto is going to be something about being unorthadox or out-of-the-box. |
| 22:10.36 | Tek0516 | Huh. Mine is "Ours the Task Eternal" |
| 22:11.46 | Monet | I think I can prove it...where is it. |
| 22:12.59 | Wormy_ | University of Leicester's motto Ut Vitam Habeant "so that they may have life" |
| 22:13.03 | Monet | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh1blaC1DRU this was a third-year project made largely by *one guy* the year before I started. |
| 22:14.02 | Wormy_ | University of Nottingham's motto where I'm going is: Sapientia urbs conditur - "A city is built on wisdom" |
| 22:14.33 | Hachiman | So according to a guy called Darkness Vlad Tepes, real name Jack, who lives in Blackburn, England is home to around 45,000 vampires and Darkness himself is a member of a cult consisting of 5,000 international members |
| 22:14.34 | Monet | And one of my flatmates (who is on a fashion course) managed to secure an internship on Savile Row. |
| 22:16.22 | Wormy_ | [ Insert unsavoury Jimmy Saville meme] |
| 22:16.46 | Monet | Yeah I guessed that Saville might come to mind. |
| 22:17.08 | Hachiman | In an interview, he said that he spends most of his time with other English members of his cult in woods and graveyards, where they perform pagan rituals and the letting and drinking of animal blood, although he does prefer 'mortal' blood which he gets from donors |
| 22:18.07 | Wormy_ | He better not be sacrificing animals |
| 22:18.13 | Ghel | It doesn't suprise me that some people would do that. |
| 22:18.23 | Hachiman | Not animal sacrifice, I imagine they get the blood through other means |
| 22:18.41 | Hachiman | You can't just drink animal blood on the spot because that is immensely unhygienic |
| 22:19.00 | Ghel | IIRC there are occasionally reports of animals that seem to have been killed in fields in ritualistic ways. |
| 22:19.20 | Wormy_ | I think some indigenous peoples do it |
| 22:19.28 | Hachiman | He also said that real vampires do not wear capes - as that is an idea embedded by Hollywood - and he has natural fangs, an aversion to sunlight, needs permission to enter people's homes, and sleeps in his own custom-made coffin at home |
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| 22:20.02 | Ghel | In some parts of the world, perhaps, but I don't think the indigenous peoples of England sacrifice animals. |
| 22:20.05 | Wormy_ | People genuily are averted to sunlight or can get reactions in their skin when exposed to UV |
| 22:20.26 | Xho | "needs permission to enter people's homes" |
| 22:20.28 | Xho | eh |
| 22:20.31 | Wormy_ | *some people |
| 22:21.08 | Hachiman | He also says that he only has sex when he drinks blood, both first and during, and that he is kind of frustrated recently because he is single and feels not many people understand him and judge him unfairly |
| 22:21.20 | Wormy_ | Ghel: What goes on in the depths of the countryside stays in the countryside |
| 22:21.23 | Ghel | Xho: That does sound remarkably... unconvincing. |
| 22:22.08 | Wormy_ | Is he worried about disease? |
| 22:22.10 | Monet | Coffins are soooo 1895. |
| 22:22.41 | Monet | A sensory deprivation tank is much more stylish. |
| 22:22.42 | Wormy_ | Blood is... eugh. Especially if it touches your blood. |
| 22:22.42 | Hachiman | He is, that's why he uses blood that's been donated to drink |
| 22:23.56 | Wormy_ | I wonder how he gets medical sources. They would be the cleanest... But then thats taking precious blood from people who need it. So he has trusted volunteers, that is remarkable trust |
| 22:24.06 | Xho | http://memestorage.com/_nw/22/17506846.jpg This comes to mind |
| 22:24.09 | Hachiman | Then again, he also believes that he is immortal and claims to worship Satan |
| 22:24.54 | drom | Wormy_ Charles_Murray: I'm uncertain if I could return to ficionverse, albeit less active. |
| 22:25.03 | Wormy_ | I shall tell you a funny story from my childhood when I encountered a vampire trap |
| 22:27.05 | Wormy_ | Was on holiday with my parents in Crete. We found an odd little bar based in a cave, and these pasty white barmen with a stare that would give you the chills begged us to come in. I was immediately convinced they were vampires as the bar had coffin shaped stools |
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| 22:28.00 | Wormy_ | Then the barman showed me a tank full of piranhas which he was fery enthusiastic about, well I noped the hell out of there and remained outside until we left. |
| 22:28.18 | Monet | Sounds like a Goth bar to me. |
| 22:28.26 | Wormy_ | I think it was |
| 22:28.51 | Ghel | As opposed to bars visited by real vampires, which totally exist. |
| 22:30.49 | Wormy_ | Well we couldn't find the odd bar the next day |
| 22:31.32 | Wormy_ | It was a trap actually, to drag in tourists drunk on cocktails |
| 22:32.08 | Wormy_ | But you have to be a child to see through the facade |
| 22:33.15 | Ghel | Here I was hoping you were going to follow up the comment that it was no longer there with something like "In fact, the cave was entirely blocked off from the outside, and the locals all said it had been that way for 400 years". |
| 22:34.03 | Wormy_ | It had electricity and lighting |
| 22:36.05 | Wormy_ | I just rembembered something |
| 22:36.22 | Wormy_ | The head barman leaned over and said to me "They like to feeed..." |
| 22:37.57 | Monet | Definitely sounds like some kind of alternative club to draw tourists. |
| 22:39.10 | OluapPlayer_ | I'd have made a comment but it'd probably come across as awkward |
| 22:39.47 | Hachiman | Go on hur |
| 22:39.59 | OluapPlayer_ | Nope |
| 22:40.01 | Xho | IT'S ALL RECKLESS FAGGOTRY OF THE HIGHEST ORDER |
| 22:40.15 | OluapPlayer_ | nah ur just ghey |
| 22:40.30 | Xho | get zyklon b'd untermensch |
| 22:40.41 | Xho | Why am I turning into a Nazi today |
| 22:40.43 | OluapPlayer_ | speek engrish u alien being |
| 22:40.45 | Xho | I need to go to sleep I think |
| 22:40.48 | Hachiman | ayy lmoa |
| 22:40.50 | Hachiman | lmao* |
| 22:41.01 | Xho | get gassed u jew |
| 22:41.03 | Xho | Basically |
| 22:41.21 | Xho | Yeah today has seen some extreme racism from me and I'm not quite sure why |
| 22:41.39 | Xho | August might as well be Latent Xho the Nazi Month |
| 22:42.12 | Xho | I need sleep anyway |
| 22:42.32 | Monet | Maybe he was tired |
| 22:42.39 | Wormy_ | http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/fa/fa93e7ba26ce7d2b0c2210cbb244b9303d88383f4c957f90e52ca1c2c60adb8f.jpg |
| 22:46.12 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/ISgIk |
| 22:47.03 | Monet | It's pretty scary to think how many Holocaust survivors were terrified of taking a shower. |
| 22:47.12 | Monet | For years. |
| 22:48.20 | Monet | Even if they had escaped there was that primal feeling that one day, instead of water that shower-head would spray them with pesticide. |
| 22:50.50 | Wormy_ | I hear that some of the people living in Chernobyl had been liberated from Nazi death camps, and refused to go on the trains and coaches put on to evacuate the towns around the region. |
| 22:51.35 | Monet | I imagine it wasn't just liberated Nazis. |
| 22:52.04 | Monet | In Stalin's Russia, trains were used to transport millions of people to the gulags. |
| 22:52.23 | Monet | Liberated Nazi death camp survivors* |
| 22:52.43 | Wormy_ | I was about to say, Jews and Slavs for example |
| 22:54.29 | Monet | Sure there were probably some who had experienced the dread of a riding a train into a death camp, but people hear stories. |
| 22:57.01 | Wormy_ | Someone I know just visited Auschwitz, she was almost in tears telling me the horrific details she learned |
| 22:57.45 | Wormy_ | 4 or 5 people crammed into tiny boxes where they were expected to die, and if anybody survived, they were forced to work all day and then go back to the cramped box |
| 23:06.46 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:07.29 | Monet | Aushuitz is the most famous but I think Dakov was one of the most brutal. |
| 23:08.32 | Monet | Mainly because, if I recall, Dakov was where the killing of PoWs was refined into an industrial practice. |
| 23:13.45 | Wormy_ | From what I've heard, both were industrialised forms of killing |
| 23:15.00 | Wormy_ | The women, children, the pregnant, and less-able were either shot or sent straight to the gas chambers or pit. The able-bodied men were sent to forced labour until they died |
| 23:15.35 | Wormy_ | Then shockingly towards the end of the war they resorted to burning children alive to save bullets |
| 23:15.59 | Wormy_ | And because the gas chambers were over-capacity |
| 23:16.48 | Monet | Yeah as the Nazis began to realise they were losing I guess they stepped up the pace. |
| 23:19.37 | Wormy_ | Freakishly they also used the corpses, hair and skin for brushes, felt or leather, teeth and bone for fertiliser. False teeth and limbs were melted down |
| 23:21.08 | Wormy_ | I struggle to comprehend how humans can be this inhumane to each-other. Even if its read out to me, you can't put it in words |
| 23:21.40 | DrodoEmpire | Back |
| 23:21.50 | Quark8 | Welcome back. |
| 23:22.46 | DrodoEmpire | Thanks |
| 23:22.57 | DrodoEmpire | Was out with friends, fun time all and all |
| 23:24.30 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: Any drink? |
| 23:25.15 | DrodoEmpire | Nah, no alcohol |
| 23:25.21 | DrodoEmpire | Not of age for that actually |
| 23:25.36 | Hachiman | Ah |
| 23:25.39 | Hachiman | Sounds boring hur |
| 23:25.51 | Hachiman | Wormy_: I suppose you've heard of Mengele |
| 23:25.57 | Wormy_ | Of course |
| 23:26.14 | Hachiman | Josef Mengele and his weird twin fetish |
| 23:26.36 | Wormy_ | Where he sew twins together or something like that |
| 23:26.38 | DrodoEmpire | Meh we had fun- probably would be *more* fun with a bit of drink but you know |
| 23:26.57 | Wormy_ | I remember having fun without alcohol |
| 23:27.17 | Wormy_ | But once you've had a fun night of alcohol, then things are never the same again |
| 23:27.35 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I can imagine |
| 23:28.13 | Wormy_ | Hachi: Do you remember panda pops? |
| 23:28.25 | DrodoEmpire | My older brother actually refuses to drink or do any sort of drugs, which I've found *odd* but admirable |
| 23:28.36 | DrodoEmpire | (he's legal age for that sorta thing btw) |
| 23:28.49 | Wormy_ | Good for him |
| 23:29.02 | Monet | You don't need booze to have a deep conversation. |
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| 23:29.19 | DrodoEmpire | Actually its probably better not to booze up to have a deep conversation, but I dunno |
| 23:29.47 | Wormy_ | When you have booze, it can inspire a deep conversation, though it might be an illusion |
| 23:30.06 | Monet | Ahh the old pub logic. |
| 23:30.52 | Monet | "Why do we call them chilies when they trick you int othinking you're hot?" |
| 23:31.23 | Wormy_ | One of the first times I got drunk I thought I jumped 11 feet off a climbing frame because I dared myself too |
| 23:31.25 | Hachiman | What I find a bit dumb is how people treat alcohol as if it's a cause for you doing wrongdoings; it does not implant the thoughts of committing crime or being unfaithful, but rather, it inhibits your self-control over those thoughts you must have had already in mind |
| 23:31.52 | Wormy_ | Yes, probably |
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| 23:32.30 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah you don't think straight while drunk, naturally |
| 23:32.56 | Wormy_ | Alcohol took away my inhibitions that night and I am an extremely self-inhibited person. It gave me the excuse to jump 11 feet and nearly break bones because I obviously desired to break inhibition, so it made me feel I could do anything |
| 23:33.26 | Tybusen | Hello |
| 23:33.30 | Monet | Hello |
| 23:33.33 | Wormy_ | The gods of Beer looked favourably on me that night |
| 23:33.37 | DrodoEmpire | Jeez |
| 23:33.37 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 23:33.38 | Tybusen | Also Wormy_ are you ok |
| 23:33.56 | Wormy_ | Giving my experience of something that happened years ago |
| 23:34.05 | Tybusen | Ah ok |
| 23:38.34 | DrodoEmpire | http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/man-charged-in-violent-weekend-confrontation-caught-on-video-1.3022056 - Saw this on facebook |
| 23:38.37 | DrodoEmpire | Jesus, some people |
| 23:38.41 | Hachiman | https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/13924923_2344931955529850_370011920077071646_n.jpg?oh=0b36126aa236d4e2ace3c7e814fa3526&oe=5821EAF4 Look at the fucking size of this thing |
| 23:39.01 | DrodoEmpire | Landscaping dispute ends with buddy in the car getting both windows smashed out and a faceful of glass |
| 23:39.22 | DrodoEmpire | Hachiman: Might have a few mates who could help tackle that XD |
| 23:39.42 | DrodoEmpire | If it were SW just bring Loron <.< |
| 23:39.59 | Wormy_ | I would feel compelled to throw the broken glass back in his face |
| 23:40.35 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah the guy on the camera kept his cool incredibly well |
| 23:40.46 | DrodoEmpire | I would've probably gotten out-and-out violent to be honest |
| 23:40.48 | Hachiman | Ultimately, the guy smashing the windows loses |
| 23:40.52 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 23:41.03 | DrodoEmpire | He's being charged with mischief, probably an assault charge coming |
| 23:41.27 | OluapPlayer_ | dat pizza |
| 23:41.31 | OluapPlayer_ | Now I'm hungry |
| 23:41.39 | OluapPlayer_ | Haven't had a good pizza in a while |
| 23:41.41 | Wormy_ | I'd probably shred my hands if I did try to grab a handful |
| 23:41.49 | DrodoEmpire | Oh definitely |
| 23:41.54 | DrodoEmpire | That stuff's sharp |
| 23:42.01 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer_: me n u eet da poopoo |
| 23:42.05 | Hachiman | I mean pizza |
| 23:42.09 | OluapPlayer_ | what the fuck |
| 23:42.14 | DrodoEmpire | But if you're hyped up on adrenline you probably wouldn't care |
| 23:42.45 | DrodoEmpire | But yeah, that Mr. Tissington's probably gonna go to jail for a bit :p |
| 23:42.49 | DrodoEmpire | At least a hefty fine |
| 23:43.41 | Monet | I'm not hungry, fortunately. Had a very filling seafood platter today. |
| 23:44.39 | Monet | Actually call me a heretic but I've found myself not eating pizza often lately. |
| 23:45.12 | Hachiman | I find it a little ridiculous that some people I talk to find the idea of eating squid bizarre - even though we live in a seaside town with a notable hand in the southern England fishing industry |
| 23:46.34 | Monet | I remember before trying my first squid I was worried it was going to be quite rubbery. |
| 23:46.42 | Monet | in taste |
| 23:47.00 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:48.08 | Wormy_ | What is squid like? |
| 23:49.11 | Hachiman | It's pretty good |
| 23:49.19 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: Easy, starve oneself for three days |
| 23:49.22 | Monet | It's quite tender. |
| 23:49.35 | Wormy_ | Then that pizza will go down nicely |
| 23:50.25 | Monet | I might have goen off pizza because I've become a dab hand on the oven |
| 23:51.49 | Wormy_ | What about making your own pizza? |
| 23:52.21 | Wormy_ | I made a curry pizza last time and it went surprisingly well |
| 23:52.56 | Monet | I think I've done that once or twice. |
| 23:53.34 | Wormy_ | Used paneer cheese, red onion, peppers, curry source with some tomato in it, fresh corianda |
| 23:53.41 | Wormy_ | and chilli |
| 23:55.13 | Monet | But I cook a lovely ginger beef with asparagus, or duck flavoured with orange zest. |
| 23:56.01 | Monet | Although one of my far-off favourite homemade meals is macaroni in a goat's cheese sauce mixed with green beans. |
| 23:59.00 | Monet | I think I might be more of a gourmet kind of guy. |
| 23:59.42 | Wormy_ | https://barkpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/husky-in-couch.jpg |
