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| 00:06.09 | Charles_Bot | DrodoEmpire_ So what do you think? |
| 00:06.18 | DrodoEmpire_ | I like it |
| 00:06.27 | DrodoEmpire_ | Really clean and nice to look at |
| 00:09.14 | Charles_Bot | DrodoEmpire_ Cool! What other traits do you think I should I add? |
| 00:09.18 | drom | "xekotrikaro" |
| 00:09.29 | DrodoEmpire_ | Hmm |
| 00:09.30 | drom | That is what I get for using the basque language to generate a DF language |
| 00:09.36 | DrodoEmpire_ | More of those bullet-point traits? |
| 00:10.25 | Charles_Bot | More big-box traits |
| 00:10.43 | Charles_Bot | I.e. Another "Victor" with its own symbol, etc |
| 00:11.10 | drom | To be honest |
| 00:11.32 | drom | I find it a bit terrifying when people reuse style of some of my templates. :o |
| 00:12.19 | DrodoEmpire_ | Charles: Ehh, not quite, but okay |
| 00:15.00 | Charles_Bot | Drom: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Empire#Foreign_affairs |
| 00:15.22 | drom | I saw |
| 00:15.47 | drom | It was intriguing. |
| 00:16.53 | drom | Charles_Bot: For reference, consider using no or table style for this: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Empire#Readiness |
| 00:17.14 | drom | The white borders combined with the thin colored boxes make it very difficult to distinguish. |
| 00:17.20 | drom | or other table style* |
| 00:23.00 | drom | Monet Hachiman: I need some advice here |
| 00:23.06 | Hachiman | Go on |
| 00:23.10 | Monet | okay |
| 00:24.31 | drom | I'm starting with fiction of a location in Talmyr (because why not, I like embarking on freezing tundras). But I'm still at the stage of naming the article. If I should use its true name or its translated name á la dorf fort style. |
| 00:24.49 | Hachiman | Hm |
| 00:25.16 | drom | The true name is "Takoalasko", translated as "Silvercreek" |
| 00:25.32 | Hachiman | I'd use the translated name personally, maybe |
| 00:26.12 | Monet | Using the untranslated name would make it more distinct. |
| 00:27.32 | Monet | I always found the untranslated names of Dwarven locations to be more...impactful. |
| 00:28.24 | drom | Monet: Keep in mind the occupants are not dwarves, a fantasy knock-off of a species that already exist in the fictionverse. |
| 00:28.25 | Monet | "The Dwarven City of Gerintherog" sounds more impressive than "the Dwarven City of Weedyhills" |
| 00:28.37 | DrodoEmpire_ | Impactful isn't a word Monet <.< |
| 00:28.57 | drom | because I'm too lazy and unimaginative when it comes to original ideas of fantasy creatures. |
| 00:29.00 | DrodoEmpire_ | I know this because my history teacher would lose his shit if he ever saw it in a written document |
| 00:29.05 | Hachiman | Weedyhills |
| 00:29.07 | Hachiman | Fucking, my sides |
| 00:29.24 | drom | Hachiman: 'Anus' is a vaild word too |
| 00:29.34 | drom | There was a naga city named "Beachedanus" |
| 00:30.15 | Monet | DrodoEmpire_: Neither was "googled" a word one time. |
| 00:30.58 | drom | Try this combination: 'Anusaffection' |
| 00:31.02 | Monet | Though granted I myself would lose my shit over "irregardless" but then again who doesn't. |
| 00:31.15 | DrodoEmpire_ | Lots of nonsense words used yeah |
| 00:31.57 | Monet | Language is a living, breathing thing. |
| 00:32.35 | drom | I guess you wanted to say that 'impactful' could been replaced with 'intriguing'? |
| 00:32.41 | Hachiman | Fucking |
| 00:32.43 | Hachiman | Those names |
| 00:34.51 | drom | Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/VUAS0Wy.png |
| 00:35.10 | drom | No wonder no one likes him. Because he is an asshole. |
| 00:35.10 | Hachiman | Oh God |
| 00:35.34 | Hachiman | Shato Anusborn is perhaps the best name I've ever seen |
| 00:36.00 | Monet | drom: Maybe. I'm tired. |
| 00:36.22 | drom | Monet: I invent too many new words too |
| 00:36.53 | Monet | The important thing is that other people understand what you're trying to say. |
| 00:36.54 | drom | Like I tried 'googling' "intrigueful" when I went to check my spelling after had sent a message |
| 00:38.11 | drom | Hachiman: *cough* http://i.imgur.com/1Z1OQnX.png *cough* |
| 00:38.35 | Monet | IIRC, "to google" has been accepted into the OED. |
| 00:39.06 | drom | Terrible DF jokes aside, I guess I'll stick to "Takoalasko" for the time being |
| 00:39.46 | Monet | One does not argue against entries into the Oxford English Dictionary (not successfully anyway). |
| 00:40.07 | drom | POP QUIZ QUESTION NUMBERO UNO! |
| 00:40.18 | Primisback | NOOOO |
| 00:40.20 | drom | Does fantasyverse have an infobox for fiction of sites/locations |
| 00:40.21 | Primisback | explodes |
| 00:40.30 | Hachiman | I'm not sure |
| 00:40.31 | Primisback | ~kill drom |
| 00:40.31 | infobot | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized fluxproton gun at drom |
| 00:40.40 | Monet | Prim you really need to see a doctor. |
| 00:40.54 | Hachiman | Primius really needs to get booted by an admin |
| 00:41.14 | Monet | Dude that's cold. |
| 00:41.17 | Primisback | ^ |
| 00:41.48 | Hachiman | What can I say, I'm a pretty chill guy |
| 00:42.02 | drom | Hachiman: Try using point-toed steel boots. Apply the toe-end to groin. |
| 00:42.48 | Hachiman | The injured part explodes into gore |
| 00:42.55 | drom | http://medievalcostumesandgifts.com/images/product-images/ir80832_inside.jpg |
| 00:43.07 | Monet | Admittedly, physically exploding's probably the most extreme reaction I've seen to a pop quiz. |
| 00:43.30 | drom | More like; "the injured part is cloven asunder!" Hachiman. |
| 00:43.42 | Hachiman | hur |
| 00:43.45 | drom | The satisfaction of using halberds |
| 00:44.03 | Monet | And every man in a 100-yard radius instinctively clutches his crotch |
| 00:44.39 | drom | Hachiman Monet: The man is now a technicially woman with that groin in its state of injury. |
| 00:44.56 | drom | waggles his eyebrows. |
| 00:45.43 | drom | Which reminds me of this. |
| 00:45.44 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/LWgkwBV.png |
| 00:46.01 | Monet | Come to think of it. |
| 00:46.20 | drom | Half the teeth landed in the crowns of the nearby trees. |
| 00:46.39 | Monet | I'm slightly surprised now that Pinky and the Brain never exploited the male gender's instinctive tendency to reel whenever they see another man get kicked in the nads. |
| 00:46.42 | drom | It was a beautiful scene. |
| 00:47.03 | drom | They are mice |
| 00:47.08 | Hachiman | So, the herbalist bit out the fucking consort's teeth |
| 00:47.13 | drom | Yeah |
| 00:47.49 | Charles_Murray | test |
| 00:47.50 | drom | Spoiler: the consort was a human turned into a weretortiose, FOUR years before getting married to dukeress. |
| 00:48.00 | Monet | I'm having slight trouble picturing a man biting someone in the teeth. |
| 00:48.30 | OluapPlayer | You can bite someone's cheek and make it fly off in an arc |
| 00:48.39 | Hachiman | It's like something out of Berserk |
| 00:48.52 | drom | Monet: Canine muzzle biting you in the mouth, horizontally. |
| 00:49.00 | drom | Or an insect biting you in the mouth. |
| 00:49.13 | OluapPlayer | A Swordmaster in a combat trance is essentially Guts |
| 00:49.15 | Monet | Insects aren't people-sized though. |
| 00:49.27 | drom | Monet: Insect-people and giant insects |
| 00:49.36 | Monet | Also "They are mice" is not a valid reason for Pinky and Brain to not do anything. |
| 00:50.00 | Hachiman | I remember you telling me once that elven Swordmasters are fucking terrifying |
| 00:50.06 | Hachiman | Or like, elven legendaries in general |
| 00:50.17 | drom | Well, Pinky is simply too simple/uneducated to comprehend the injury. |
| 00:50.24 | OluapPlayer | Well no. They're as good as any other legendary |
| 00:50.29 | OluapPlayer | But elves are numerous |
| 00:50.36 | Monet | Brain once tried taking over the world with a plan that involved paralysing everyone though sneezing and dispersing a wallet-repellent into the atmosphere. |
| 00:50.44 | Hachiman | They're also faster than dwarves from what you've told me |
| 00:50.44 | drom | The Brain is too smart to have any place for simple instincts or emotions sparked by squicks. |
| 00:51.10 | OluapPlayer | A running dwarf is still really damn fast |
| 00:51.27 | drom | Hachiman: Speaking of anything faster than a running dwarf... |
| 00:51.33 | OluapPlayer | Nothing funnier than a mob of dwarves running at high speed after one terrified capybara |
| 00:51.35 | drom | Awaken stones/gems in Masterwork |
| 00:51.44 | Monet | Wait. |
| 00:51.50 | Monet | Pinky's been hit thousands of times. |
| 00:51.56 | Hachiman | Didn't those dwarves punch that capybara to death afterwards |
| 00:52.09 | OluapPlayer | I mean in general |
| 00:52.12 | Hachiman | Oh right hur |
| 00:52.13 | OluapPlayer | I've had that happen several times |
| 00:53.13 | Monet | Still fondly remember the time I had a pack of dwarves punch a cyclops to death. Halfway though the big guy tried running away form them but I think they then broke his legs. |
| 00:53.50 | OluapPlayer | Cyclopes, Giants and Ettins are all pushovers. Your dwarves knock them down then beat them to death |
| 00:53.52 | OluapPlayer | every single time |
| 00:54.23 | Monet | Then along come colossi and just wreck everything |
| 00:54.29 | drom | OluapPlayer: What about Bronze Colusses? |
| 00:54.43 | OluapPlayer | Bronze colossi are immune to pain |
| 00:54.44 | Hachiman | Unless you have a trusty rabbit to fucking throw at their head |
| 00:54.48 | OluapPlayer | and are made of, you know, bronze |
| 00:54.54 | drom | Also, I love crundles |
| 00:54.59 | OluapPlayer | They take no damage from anything inferior to steel |
| 00:55.12 | Monet | Well, wreck everything until they end up underneath a Dwarven atom smasher. |
| 00:55.26 | Hachiman | You can atom smash Bronze Colossi? |
| 00:55.31 | OluapPlayer | You can't |
| 00:55.35 | OluapPlayer | They're too large |
| 00:55.43 | drom | Only blunt weapons do work on anything that are made of stone and metal iirc. |
| 00:55.43 | Monet | Can't remember if you ever could. |
| 00:55.46 | OluapPlayer | If you try that, the bridge is destroyed |
| 00:55.59 | OluapPlayer | You can hack off the limbs of a bronze colossus |
| 00:56.04 | OluapPlayer | But it'll require steel or adamantine |
| 00:56.05 | drom | Oh |
| 00:56.09 | drom | Well, yeah. |
| 00:56.14 | drom | That cyan candy |
| 00:56.28 | drom | One candy is enough for the clown car to drive in your fort |
| 00:56.38 | OluapPlayer | If you're dumb and dig into it sure |
| 00:57.09 | drom | Armok have mercy on you if one of your nobles demands something made of adamantine. |
| 00:57.18 | Monet | Its not really a clown car when you're breaching a hole into an infinitely-sized cavern |
| 00:57.18 | OluapPlayer | I've never had a bronze colossus attack |
| 00:57.26 | OluapPlayer | Had a dragon once though |
| 00:57.37 | OluapPlayer | Burned the whole surface then got caught into a wooden cage |
| 00:58.04 | drom | Monet: The welcome party are usually overwhelming for your militia |
| 00:58.09 | drom | parties even |
| 00:58.12 | Monet | Dragon - DOKKLO! [WOOD!] |
| 00:58.17 | Hachiman | I remember in Boatmurdered that early on, a noble ordered a window to be put in his room or office or something - said room would have a window looking at a wall based on where it was positioned |
| 00:58.24 | OluapPlayer | "NOOO NOT A CAGE OF ANY NATURE" |
| 00:58.44 | OluapPlayer | That still happens, had it a couple of times |
| 00:58.45 | Monet | Hachiman: I remember that |
| 00:58.50 | drom | Monet OluapPlayer: Wooden magma cistern. |
| 00:58.54 | OluapPlayer | Never made windows, nobles don't deserve nice things |
| 00:58.55 | Monet | "I hope the bastard gets drunk and falls though it" |
| 00:59.06 | OluapPlayer | Nobles are for dying terrible deaths |
| 00:59.16 | drom | More like cannon fodder |
| 00:59.18 | Monet | What about the mayor? |
| 00:59.29 | OluapPlayer | Useless, serves only to talk to diplomats |
| 00:59.30 | drom | Along with the legendary cheese and soap makers |
| 00:59.52 | OluapPlayer | Only useful nobles are the broker, the bookkeeper, the manager, the militia commander and the chief medical dwarf |
| 00:59.54 | Monet | So mostly useless. |
| 01:00.02 | drom | The benefits of kobold merchants. http://i.imgur.com/T6AmuVW.png |
| 01:00.10 | OluapPlayer | They 1) make no demands 2) actually work |
| 01:00.28 | Monet | I think it's because they're technically adminstrators. |
| 01:00.43 | Monet | They don't hold noble titles. |
| 01:00.59 | OluapPlayer | Mayors are nobles |
| 01:01.20 | OluapPlayer | But they serve little purpose other than demanding things from you |
| 01:01.31 | drom | The only nobles I've use of are the militia ones, broker, manager and bookkepper |
| 01:01.42 | OluapPlayer | Same for barons, dukes and counts who are just upgraded and more demanding mayors |
| 01:01.48 | Monet | I mean the broker, bookkeeper, chief medical dwarf and militia commander |
| 01:01.54 | OluapPlayer | Ah |
| 01:02.04 | OluapPlayer | Well they're all nobles, but they contribute to society |
| 01:02.14 | OluapPlayer | Mayors and related are useless vermin |
| 01:02.17 | drom | Executioner and sheriff too |
| 01:02.20 | OluapPlayer | Little better than elves |
| 01:02.25 | Hachiman | REMOVE |
| 01:02.31 | OluapPlayer | RRRRRREMOVE ELF |
| 01:02.45 | drom | You know |
| 01:02.48 | Hachiman | jobel |
| 01:02.48 | drom | build a giant building |
| 01:03.02 | drom | In the shape of a hand doing the birde |
| 01:03.04 | OluapPlayer | ARE YOU DOWNLOADING NIPPLES AGAIN JOEL |
| 01:03.07 | drom | ALL IN WOOD |
| 01:03.09 | Hachiman | Fucking |
| 01:03.20 | Hachiman | I'll never get that Kermit voice out of my head |
| 01:03.25 | OluapPlayer | JOOL |
| 01:03.43 | drom | In the direction of the elven neighbours. |
| 01:04.03 | drom | Get a wooden artifact and put it ontop of the middle finger, lit on fire. |
| 01:04.48 | drom | They'll never understand or why the giant middle finger is erected in their territory. |
| 01:05.16 | Hachiman | Could just burn their fucking faggoty forests down |
| 01:05.33 | Monet | Yeah but you need the forests to make coal and beds. |
| 01:05.53 | OluapPlayer | And useless trash to sell to other dwarves and humans |
| 01:05.58 | Monet | Aye |
| 01:06.30 | Monet | Although I mostly find myself making trinkets out of the rubble my excavators leave behind |
| 01:06.41 | OluapPlayer | Well you can make charcoal out of bituminous coal, but then again it's much less limited than wood |
| 01:06.45 | drom | I don't know why they bash you for cutting down underground trees |
| 01:06.49 | drom | I mean |
| 01:06.52 | drom | How did they know? |
| 01:07.09 | OluapPlayer | I generally make crafts out of shells |
| 01:07.11 | Monet | So all my dwarf kiddies play with action figures and toy carriages made out of rock. |
| 01:07.14 | OluapPlayer | Because I tend to drown in shells |
| 01:07.35 | OluapPlayer | Half of my refuse is pond turtle shells whenever I embark next to a river |
| 01:07.48 | drom | Mmm... I tend to drown in logs of the trees I remove to make space for my aboveground megaprojects. |
| 01:07.59 | drom | Like the recent hill fortress I tried to make |
| 01:08.16 | drom | Only to be plagued by the curse of terrible pathfinding and AI. |
| 01:08.20 | Monet | So Oluap drowns in shells, I drown in rubble and drom drowns in wood. |
| 01:08.34 | OluapPlayer | At one fort I had so many shells I could make crafts out of shells, then decorate these crafts with more shells |
| 01:08.40 | OluapPlayer | and STILL have shells lying around |
| 01:08.56 | Monet | "you like shells? Have some SHELLs decorated with SHELL" |
| 01:09.25 | drom | Monet: 'createitem TANNED_SKIN CREATURE:ELF:SKIN 999999999' to crash your game in the most dwarven way. |
| 01:09.39 | OluapPlayer | I embarked near the ocean once and I didn't have this many shells |
| 01:09.57 | OluapPlayer | All from one small river. Turtle population probably surpassed humanoid life there |
| 01:10.31 | Monet | We all remember the great turtle genocide...there were just too many of them |
| 01:10.46 | drom | Monet: "This shell <crafting description> [...] has hanging rings of shell, encircled by bands of shell, on the shell there is an image of a shell." |
| 01:11.05 | Monet | Great now I have this image that brooks consist of nothing of nothing but swimming turtles. |
| 01:11.29 | drom | The merfolk genocide |
| 01:11.30 | OluapPlayer | That's more or less what I experienced |
| 01:11.31 | drom | never forget |
| 01:11.44 | OluapPlayer | Get off the stone age grandpa that was years ago |
| 01:11.48 | Monet | Instead of water the dwarves drank mugs filled with microscopic turtles. |
| 01:11.50 | drom | The industrial scale genocide of merfolk, rather. |
| 01:12.31 | Monet | old news that. |
| 01:12.59 | drom | Well |
| 01:13.31 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:14.02 | OluapPlayer | The current craze is cats getting alcohol poisoning by licking alcohol off their paws |
| 01:14.06 | OluapPlayer | Or worlds inhabited by colossal amounts of horses |
| 01:14.14 | drom | Capture some elves and hope they breed so you get more elves to breed into a bigger scale. So you can pit one elf each season from a height into your dwarves' communal meeting area. |
| 01:14.27 | drom | One can dream |
| 01:15.16 | Hachiman | >The Merocaust |
| 01:15.18 | Hachiman | Fucking kek |
| 01:19.45 | drom | "The Passionate Steel" |
| 01:19.57 | drom | I don't feel like it is a good name of the civilization I'm considering |
| 01:20.27 | drom | Throw me suggestions/ideas |
| 01:20.41 | drom | I'll 'translate' them |
| 01:35.22 | DrodoEmpire_ | test |
| 01:35.37 | drom | List of the civilizations that was in my game. For those curious |
| 01:35.37 | drom | http://i.imgur.com/O3yxZLC.png |
| 01:46.54 | Monet | goodnight |
| 01:59.51 | DrodoEmpire_ | test |
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| 02:09.23 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 02:13.42 | DrodoEmpire_ | Hi |
| 02:15.44 | Tek0516 | Well I just watched Season 6 Episode 9 of Game of Thrones. It was a good episode but wow it's graphic. |
| 02:18.57 | DrodoEmpire_ | Oh? |
| 02:20.37 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire_: Don't know how much I can say without spoiling for people. |
| 02:21.00 | DrodoEmpire_ | Ahh |
| 02:21.09 | The_Randomness | idgaf about the show, so I wouldn't care |
| 02:22.27 | Tek0516 | One of the scenes involved a literal wall of dead and dying bodies. O.o |
| 02:22.34 | Charles_Murray | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Empire#At_a_Glance |
| 02:22.38 | Charles_Murray | No spoilers |
| 02:23.55 | The_Randomness | Tek0516: oh gosh what |
| 02:27.54 | Tek0516 | I can't really say much without completely spoiling things. Though honestly even the episode name itself is a spoiler for anyone who hasn't watched to at least to the first few episodes of the season. |
| 02:31.15 | Charles_Murray | New national spirit :P http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Empire#At_a_Glance DrodoEmpire_ Tek0516 |
| 02:32.06 | DrodoEmpire_ | Ah cool |
| 02:32.13 | DrodoEmpire_ | I should try these out, perhaps |
| 02:32.52 | Charles_Murray | So far they're horrible xD |
| 02:33.01 | Charles_Murray | But I might add a few positive and neutral ones |
| 02:34.14 | DrodoEmpire_ | Nah I like them |
| 02:34.30 | DrodoEmpire_ | They're sorta quick traits or characteristics of a country, its a great idea |
| 02:34.47 | DrodoEmpire_ | Maybe some generic-semi generic ones could be usefu; |
| 02:34.51 | DrodoEmpire_ | *ful |
| 02:35.17 | Charles_Murray | Yeah, like "Capitalist" |
| 02:35.22 | Charles_Murray | Or something like that |
| 02:35.36 | DrodoEmpire_ | Stuff like that |
| 02:35.43 | DrodoEmpire_ | I have a few ideas for Drodo ones |
| 02:35.48 | Charles_Murray | (By horrible I mean that they're malnuses as opposed to bonuses) |
| 02:35.53 | Charles_Murray | Oh? Like what? |
| 02:39.24 | Charles_Murray | test |
| 02:39.29 | DrodoEmpire_ | Right |
| 02:39.47 | DrodoEmpire_ | Eh, maybe one describing C's government |
| 02:40.13 | DrodoEmpire_ | Maybe another explaining the cultural diversity/fracticiousness of the government, and maybe another... |
| 02:40.18 | DrodoEmpire_ | *of the empire |
| 02:40.26 | DrodoEmpire_ | government too, but nation in general |
| 02:54.52 | Charles_Murray | Cool |
| 03:33.37 | Tek0516 | Damnit, I just noticed something about France I need to annoy Charles about. |
| 03:35.52 | DrodoEmpire_ | Yeah, I meant to be back sooner >.< |
| 03:38.01 | The_Randomness | rip |
| 03:48.03 | DrodoEmpire_ | test |
| 04:04.47 | The_Randomness | I've spent the past hour or so listening to meme/cancer music |
| 04:04.52 | The_Randomness | SeemsGood |
| 04:10.12 | DrodoEmpire_ | Jesus |
| 04:11.31 | DrodoEmpire_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYYwQrKhnDQ Have an extra six seconds |
| 04:11.32 | DrodoEmpire_ | <.< |
| 04:15.14 | The_Randomness | weak sauce |
| 04:25.35 | The_Randomness | meme_master https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldN9fNhZcsQ |
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| 10:32.24 | NeonPanda | hi all |
| 10:33.21 | drom | Oh no |
| 10:33.34 | drom | Hi |
| 10:36.43 | drom | Trying to make three different heraldic symbolcs |
| 10:36.47 | drom | symbols even |
| 10:43.11 | NeonPanda | I'm sitting here watching the Australian Bureau of Statistics' website be dumb |
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| 11:42.36 | Wormy_ | Deustch is quite optimistic about Type IV civilisations https://twitter.com/DavidDeutschOxf/status/762811365723693056 |
| 11:42.39 | Wormy_ | hi |
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| 11:54.20 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 12:01.44 | Monet | Hello |
| 12:02.05 | Monet | Wormy_: I can see Herzog's point. |
| 12:03.32 | Wormy_ | It all needs some unpicking, I agree with both kinda. The universe is a harsh and cruel place barely habitable and we could be snuffed out in the next minute by a nearby GBR from WR 104 |
| 12:03.42 | Wormy_ | or whatever |
| 12:04.22 | Monet | I think that's Herzog's angle. |
| 12:04.41 | Hachiman | I have to agree with Herzog |
| 12:05.05 | Wormy_ | But at the same time Deutsch uses "person" to represent anything that can create knowledge with a purpose of learning or changing the world - so he's argued that we can't model the future behaviour of planets, stars and beyond without considering the acrtions of people |
| 12:05.42 | Wormy_ | Earth for example is already being defined to be going through an Anthropocene |
| 12:06.45 | Wormy_ | The fact that we can learn about the world implies we have some relationship with the universe's laws, such that they are possible to understand using comoutations/thought processes |
| 12:07.16 | Wormy_ | So I agree with Deutsch that we are part of this universe and life and people can have causation in it |
| 12:07.56 | Monet | The two philosophers might be approaching this at different angles. |
| 12:08.23 | Monet | We can have causation in what we do to this planet, but the universe can still be indifferent to what we do. |
| 12:08.50 | Wormy_ | What does "indifference" physically mean here? |
| 12:09.22 | Wormy_ | We have a relationship with the world and can create environments increasingly suited for us |
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| 12:09.41 | Hachiman | We have a relationship to the world, but not to the cosmos |
| 12:09.55 | Wormy_ | The universe can't be indifferent to us if it as a whole can't think at all |
| 12:10.11 | Wormy_ | Thats just parochialism. Its not impossible we could expand to the stars |
| 12:10.44 | Wormy_ | Its possible other people in the universe already have |
| 12:11.25 | Wormy_ | I just think Deutsch is questioning the conventional wisdom by offering this strange twist |
| 12:12.22 | Monet | The universe is a big place. |
| 12:13.17 | Wormy_ | It is, but life as we know can operate on vast timescales |
| 12:13.50 | Wormy_ | Consider self-replicating machines - they could expand across the galaxy in just over 100,000 years once they reached a critical number |
| 12:14.15 | Monet | "Almost everything in spacetime depends on what people do." - this does sound like a rather anthopocentric proposal. |
| 12:14.19 | Wormy_ | Which is why the Fermi paradox is extremely odd, we should expect the universe to be full by now |
| 12:15.13 | Wormy_ | Its not anthropocentric because if you think as "peopling" as a possible process in the universe, its a property shared by anything from humans to self-replicator bots |
| 12:17.57 | Monet | I think indifference could be a possible answer to the Fermi paradox. Life could be quite common and we're not that special. |
| 12:18.33 | Monet | Humanity is a remarkable species but in all likelihood, there are aliens out there as remarkable as we are. |
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| 12:19.02 | Wormy_ | What is remarkable is that people like us can exist at all |
| 12:19.25 | Wormy_ | Why should the laws of physics be comprehensible? etc. |
| 12:20.22 | Wormy_ | (oh, and I should say that the overwhelming majority of all species and all cultures are dead, including our hominid cousins which also used tools and language) |
| 12:23.22 | Monet | I'm not saying humanity isn't remarkable. |
| 12:24.46 | Wormy_ | Well I certainly agree we might not be alone (and we could simply die out) |
| 12:24.56 | Monet | The best analogy I can think of is these uncontacted tribes in the Amazon - what knowledge do they have of WWI, the Napoleonic Wars? What evidence can they see in their reality for those happening. |
| 12:25.44 | Monet | Perhaps we have no evidence for extra-terrestrial intelligent life because it's operating at a level we can't at repsent analyse. |
| 12:25.53 | Monet | at present* |
| 12:25.55 | Wormy_ | But that remarkableness is shared by all sentient beings in the universe |
| 12:26.38 | Wormy_ | Perhaps, but is that a matter of them being like us, but just a lot better at it? Or are they qualitively interacting with the universe in a different way to us? |
| 12:26.59 | Wormy_ | *qualitatively |
| 12:27.18 | Wormy_ | I'm undecided on that issue... |
| 12:28.24 | Ghelae | The problem with explaining the Fermi paradox is that there are so many obvious things that advanced aliens could do (think astroengineering), it only takes one civilisation in 100,000 galaxies to have done it, for any reason whatsoever, for us to be aware of them. Not only does it not require them to make contact with us, but if an alien race did make contact with us, that wouldn't explain why we still haven't seen any other sig |
| 12:28.39 | Monet | I once hypothesised that if God is just an advanced alien, living on a starship in the interstellar medium might be all he needs to do to keep hidden from us. |
| 12:30.41 | Ghelae | Yes, there are plenty of ways for aliens for not be seen by us. But there's no good reason for all aliens to do that. |
| 12:30.46 | Ghelae | aliens to not* |
| 12:30.58 | Ghelae | (that we can be certain of) |
| 12:31.32 | Wormy_ | It certainly is problematic |
| 12:32.04 | Wormy_ | However, there's the range of possible we can detect, and there's the range of data we have yet to understand or analyse. |
| 12:32.24 | Wormy_ | *range of possible signals (here I mean any kind of observation) |
| 12:32.54 | Monet | Observing for alien life is indeed tricky. |
| 12:32.58 | Ghelae | So workable solutions of the Fermi paradox are either that there are few enough technological species that all of them are affected by one of the proposed reasons, or by taking the "it only takes one" logic and applying in the other direction with a civilisation that actively prevents other aliens from doing anything obvious. |
| 12:36.23 | Wormy_ | Its not impossibly we simply one of a few, or are alone. |
| 12:36.40 | drom | Monet Hachiman: Unsure if I should give Takoalasko's tavern the name of "The Red Axe" (Aketoka) or "The Dead Horse" (Utormartua). |
| 12:37.26 | drom | Alternative for the latter; "The Dead Steed" (Utorohitu) |
| 12:38.45 | Wormy_ | Earth's life has had a very odd set of happenings in its evolution, frozen in by genes. I.e. complex life: origin of biomolecules and the first life, the change from RNA to DNA, endosymbiosis, sexual reproduction, multi-cellularity |
| 12:40.54 | Monet | It's an interesting philosophical discussion but I think this might be deviating from Herzog's angle. |
| 12:41.27 | Ghelae | Multicellularity has arisen multiple times amongst eukaryotes, so that on its own isn't likely to be a barrier, but I do suspect that life may be rare for some of the other reasons you mentioned. |
| 12:43.25 | Monet | Far as I can tell he might simply be saying the universe itself (its fabric, its structure, not the life it contains) has developed in such a way that what we do or what we are doesn't matter to it. |
| 12:44.26 | Wormy_ | Well, I don't know about plants but animal cells needed collagen to bind to each other - which requires a lot of free oxygen. But then plants were already freeing up oxygen into the Earth's atmosphere by that point |
| 12:44.55 | Monet | Though suppose there is alien life, could we be deluding ourselves into thinking we're some wondrous thing that aliens would cherish? What might more advanced aliens gain by trading knowledge and technology with us? |
| 12:45.25 | Wormy_ | I think it doesn't really matter what these aliens think of us. |
| 12:46.01 | Wormy_ | What matters is how people understand and interact with the universe - that physical process is what needs explanation |
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| 12:46.15 | Monet | If there is a von Neumann probe hurtling towards us, the possibility exists that it'll wipe us out in some long-ago-encoded terraforming process. |
| 12:46.31 | Monet | hi |
| 12:47.14 | Wormy_ | Maybe, but that von-nuemann probe might also have been buolt by people (or is a person) that understands the universe through the same means we o, because there might be only one way to to acquire knowledge |
| 12:47.46 | Wormy_ | I.e. through computations (if you believe in a mechanistic view of the mind) |
| 12:48.05 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 12:49.48 | Wormy_ | Understanding what might be universal between human activity and alien activity might be key to lifting any specialness from humans per se, to understanding that the special property is simply another principle in the universe that needs explaining, not undermining |
| 12:50.08 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 12:51.47 | Wormy_ | I think I used to believe in truly alien interactions with the universe a lot more than I do now |
| 12:52.26 | Wormy_ | I don't know what possibly those things could comprise of, its proposing the supernatural unless one can explain it or has an explanation for it. |
| 12:55.56 | Wormy_ | Sure, aliens could have advanced far beyond anything we know about now (like some super-civilisation that prevents other civilisations from being obvious), but are they impossible to detect or understand in principle? |
| 12:56.33 | Monet | I think I've grown a bit more indifferent to the possibility of alien life. For two reasons mostly |
| 12:56.38 | Wormy_ | Could we communicate with them? Could they teach us to communicate with them (in principle) |
| 12:57.17 | Monet | The first is whether they exist or not, we should focus on life on Earth. |
| 12:58.22 | Monet | Second reason I have is if there's so much intolerance towards other human cultures going on right now, how can we be sure we'll get along better with a society that has no shared origin at all. |
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| 12:59.48 | Wormy_ | I agree with those two statements. There could be exotic forms of Life, but Earth is our own example to study and a good start would be to look for similar worlds |
| 12:59.58 | Wormy_ | *our only example |
| 13:01.22 | Wormy_ | We can't be sure we will get along better with alien societies, but then those are problems that could still be solvable in principle |
| 13:02.43 | Monet | Who knows, maybe aliens arrive and reveal see China as the country most on the path to an ideal society. |
| 13:04.51 | Wormy_ | As for Herzog, maybe saying we have nothing to do with the universe is in a sense giving humans a special anthropomorphic quality. At least Deutsch has a proposal for what people are and do in the universe. |
| 13:05.03 | Wormy_ | human or not |
| 13:06.14 | Wormy_ | Trying to unpick why Deutsch said that Herzog was thinking anthropomorphically |
| 13:07.21 | Monet | Probably because he was ascribing an emotional trait (indifference) to an inanimate entity. |
| 13:07.48 | Wormy_ | Possibly |
| 13:08.02 | Monet | Herzog's far from the first to describe the nature of the world around him using anthropomorphic qualities. |
| 13:08.04 | Wormy_ | I think its a good thing to ask therefore, what indifference means here |
| 13:08.43 | Wormy_ | Nobody's doubting the universe isn't centered around us and our feelings |
| 13:09.46 | Monet | But I think his general point is the universe isn't going to change what it does simply because we exist; If we get hit by a GRB or pass a black hole and fall in, it just happened. |
| 13:10.59 | Wormy_ | Nobody's doubting that either |
| 13:11.02 | Monet | the universe will keep turning as if nothing happened. |
| 13:11.27 | Wormy_ | But, the presence of people may have profound effects on other physical objects in the universe |
| 13:13.36 | Wormy_ | So we not inconsequential |
| 13:13.47 | Wormy_ | *we're |
| 13:14.00 | Monet | True, it might be Herzog's not talking about other life out there. |
| 13:14.10 | drom | Hachiman Monet: Finished the starter. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Takoalasko |
| 13:14.23 | Wormy_ | In fact I say may - its actually more of an is. The Earth has been changed radically by life and by people |
| 13:14.37 | Wormy_ | Yeah but it has nothing to do with us or aliens |
| 13:14.54 | Wormy_ | It has everything to do with what they/we do |
| 13:15.42 | Wormy_ | It could be us who will one day be a Xeelee-esque civilisation |
| 13:15.47 | Wormy_ | Or they might exist already |
| 13:16.05 | Wormy_ | Or we might die out and another species achieves such a level |
| 13:17.20 | Wormy_ | Or it may never happen |
| 13:17.54 | Monet | Aliens could treat us as a rare thing, or they could repeat the Colombian Exchange. |
| 13:18.15 | Wormy_ | Or destroy us :O |
| 13:18.47 | Monet | That could come under repeating the Exchange. |
| 13:22.26 | Wormy_ | I meant some kind of blind annihilation without any exchange |
| 13:22.38 | Monet | drom: Looked at the page. Your English might be slipping. |
| 13:22.55 | Wormy_ | Detects Earth signals > sends an interstellar relativistic missile to smash into Earth |
| 13:23.11 | Hachiman | Wormy: Our successors will be the cephalopods |
| 13:23.26 | Monet | Wormy_: Oh. Yeah could happen but then the question becomes why destroy Earth after one message? |
| 13:23.44 | OluapPlayer | we cthulhu now |
| 13:23.50 | Wormy_ | competition |
| 13:24.15 | Wormy_ | Although assimilation could equally work |
| 13:24.27 | Wormy_ | Hachiman: I can believe it |
| 13:24.38 | Monet | Unless they're managed under an isolationist dictatorship, there are advantages to exploiting foreigners for money or labour. |
| 13:25.30 | Wormy_ | Monet, Hachiman: Don't know if you saw Ghelae post this yesterday https://www.newscientist.com/article/2100319-triple-signal-of-alien-megastructure-star-baffles-astronomers/ |
| 13:26.20 | Monet | âIt seems that every time someone looks at the star, it gets weirder and weirder,â - I agree |
| 13:26.35 | Ghelae | I suggest the aliens who assimilate everyone have been building a new dyson sphere in our part of the universe. |
| 13:27.38 | Hachiman | How exciting |
| 13:27.43 | drom | Monet: Damnit, care pointing me an example? |
| 13:27.47 | Wormy_ | I'd like to be assimilated ad join their construction project |
| 13:27.58 | Wormy_ | So long as they don't torture me eternally for fun |
| 13:28.04 | Hachiman | I wonder if the aliens are open to tourism |
| 13:28.31 | OluapPlayer | That's interesting |
| 13:29.21 | Monet | drom: "Tens of years later, the fortified ruins changed name after a splint[er] group of former inhabitants and pioneers had reclaimed the site and [restored] it to its former glory" - I marked possible corrections with square brackets |
| 13:30.05 | Monet | Hachiman: Hard to say what they're building. If they're building a giant-ass factory they may say "no" |
| 13:30.24 | Hachiman | What if they're building a giant brothel |
| 13:30.27 | Hachiman | You never know |
| 13:30.28 | Wormy_ | drom: Are youdoing some stuff inthe Fantasyverse? |
| 13:30.31 | DrodoEmpire_ | ayy lmao |
| 13:31.58 | drom | Wormy_: For now, yes. |
| 13:32.11 | drom | My imagination has to go to somewhere. |
| 13:35.31 | Wormy_ | whispers Super Collab |
| 13:35.46 | Wormy_ | That being said I've hardly touched fiction |
| 13:35.53 | Wormy_ | Hope to change that soon |
| 13:44.25 | Monet | Fingers crossed |
| 13:44.39 | Ghelae | Wormy_: I've finally remembered to add my comments to Luxor's Havoc titanpad. |
| 13:44.44 | drom | Super collaboration, as in that one you are planning about? |
| 13:44.50 | Wormy_ | I'll have a look |
| 13:45.49 | Ghelae | drom: Yes. We've even got the first page published (although not finished): http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Assan |
| 13:46.08 | Ghelae | Not "even". "finally". |
| 13:46.34 | Ghelae | Still have a few more things that have been agreed upon but I've not added to the page. |
| 14:06.25 | Wormy_ | I will work on detailing the geology of the planet soon |
| 14:06.48 | Wormy_ | I need someone to nag me |
| 14:09.12 | Wormy_ | Monet, Hachiman: This show makes me feel old https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuyyXLLIsvc |
| 14:09.42 | Wormy_ | I don't think they would make a kids show around a crisp factory anymore |
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| 14:21.46 | Wormy_ | http://existentialcomics.com/comic/145 |
| 14:26.54 | drom | Monet: Thanks for the help with my english! |
| 14:29.51 | MonetAway | WOrmy_: I remember this show. |
| 14:32.17 | Wormy_ | Apparent Pippin's descendent is the dog featured on Pedigree bags of dog food. |
| 14:32.31 | Monet | "In all seriousness. If it wasn't for this show, I'd still probably think that potatoes grew on trees." |
| 14:37.02 | Monet | Wormy_: I'm noticing Channel 4 seems to be censoring its pre-watershed shows. Lately I've noticed frames missing from various episodes of the Simpsons. |
| 14:37.55 | Wormy_ | Even the Simpsons??? |
| 14:38.15 | Monet | I noticed it last night but can't remember the circumstance. |
| 14:39.16 | Wormy_ | Ch4 used to be a daring channel |
| 14:39.43 | Monet | But one episode I do remember it happening was that episode where Bart gets that Lassie parody. Recent episodes have cut out the bit where the dog uncovers some weed in the blind mans' pocket. |
| 14:40.13 | Wormy_ | lol |
| 14:40.41 | Monet | It has Wiggum revealing the dog picked out narcotics but then cut out Lou interrupting suggesting "they might be medicinal" and the blind man panicking going "yea, yeah! Without it I might go...blinder" |
| 14:41.12 | Wormy_ | Moleman? |
| 14:41.38 | Wormy_ | I can imagine he is a walking chemical factory |
| 14:41.52 | Wormy_ | I doin't remember this scene |
| 14:41.56 | Monet | No that one-shot blind guy that the church gave Santa's Little Helper to. |
| 14:42.55 | Wormy_ | Found it on Youtube |
| 14:43.01 | Monet | Although this censorship seems to be mainly happening mostly on the main Channel 4. E4 and More4 I'm not seeing it. |
| 14:43.02 | drom | I wonder what is the current year in Fantasyverse? |
| 14:44.15 | Wormy_ | Watched the scene, there's also a bit where the police arrive at the blind man's house with booze and a girl |
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| 14:44.35 | Wormy_ | That has actually happened |
| 14:44.45 | Monet | Oddly I recall that bit was left in. |
| 14:44.46 | Wormy_ | Where cops used the weed they've taken off people |
| 14:45.06 | NeonPanda | census.exe has stopped responding, because apparently the ABS thought that asking ~21 million people to use the same website to fill in a form was a good idea |
| 14:45.21 | Monet | It might have been left in because it was a credits sequence |
| 14:46.35 | Wormy_ | also quite cryptic towards a young audience |
| 14:46.55 | drom | Hachiman OluapPlayer: What is the current year of the Fantasyverse, if you don't mind me asking? |
| 14:47.03 | Hachiman | 35 NA |
| 14:47.10 | Hachiman | NA = New Age |
| 14:47.18 | OluapPlayer | 34, not 35 |
| 14:47.23 | drom | Ah, I see. |
| 14:47.47 | Wormy_ | bbl going to work on the animations that I didn't finish |
| 14:48.44 | Monet | Hmm. Might have been left in because prostitution is legal in the UK. |
| 14:49.04 | Hachiman | Wait it is? |
| 14:49.20 | Wormy_away | Its touchy, but yes |
| 14:49.49 | Hachiman | Most prostitutes are touchy |
| 14:50.05 | Wormy_away | ! |
| 14:50.17 | Wormy_away | Speaking from experience? |
| 14:50.18 | OluapPlayer | hee hee |
| 14:50.52 | NeonPanda | it'd be the only experience he has :P |
| 14:50.56 | Wormy_away | Pimping, brthels and prositution in public spaces isn't but in private it is |
| 14:50.57 | Monet | Hachiman: Prostitution is legal, but they can't solicit on the street. |
| 14:51.11 | Hachiman | Right |
| 14:51.16 | Hachiman | Thanks for letting me know |
| 14:51.24 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 14:51.29 | NeonPanda | what I find funniest about this |
| 14:51.31 | NeonPanda | is that apparently |
| 14:51.36 | NeonPanda | Hachi never bothered to research this himself |
| 14:51.52 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 14:52.01 | Hachiman | I just assumed prostitution was entirely illegal in the UK because our nation is PC nanny state |
| 14:52.17 | Wormy_away | Maybe there's so many prostitutes in his area he never questioned it |
| 14:52.41 | Monet | The UK's prostitution laws are a bit peculiar |
| 14:54.13 | Monet | Prostitution is legal, but they can't solicit clients on the street and brothels are a prohibited business. So I guess hiring a hooker is legal so long as you call them up, and do it in their or your home or a hotel room. |
| 14:54.46 | NeonPanda | playing GMod murder, where the murderer can see a trail left behind by their targets, "So why are there footsteps all over the place" |
| 14:54.54 | NeonPanda | blooper reels ftw |
| 14:57.26 | Hachiman | Fucking kek |
| 14:57.42 | Hachiman | I remember when I used to watch a guy called SeaNanners play that all the time |
| 14:59.29 | NeonPanda | funny thing about SN is I used to watch his CoD videos back when I played that, now he's occasionally in the background of MrSark videos |
| 14:59.36 | NeonPanda | he changed, a lot |
| 14:59.54 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 15:01.42 | Hachiman | Also, I'm considering watching Suicide Squad because I hear it has die-hard DC fanboys and cultists arguing with actual film critics about the quality of the movie |
| 15:02.07 | Hachiman | And that Jared Leto's Joker is so-bad-it's-good |
| 15:03.04 | Monet | A lot of people are measuring him to Ledger even though their visions of the Joker are very different. |
| 15:03.43 | Hachiman | I find Ledger's Joker to be overrated so |
| 15:03.51 | Monet | Weird how it's always Ledger and I rarely see comments comparing him to Nicholson. Although might be because it's hard ot tell if Nicholson was playing the Joker or himself. |
| 15:04.09 | Hachiman | Nicholson may have been my favourite Joker |
| 15:04.23 | Hachiman | Like, he did not come off as trying too hard to me |
| 15:05.01 | NeonPanda | for me, there will never be a joker to replace TAS |
| 15:05.11 | Monet | The possibility exists Nicholson was just being himself. |
| 15:05.24 | Hachiman | Only reason why Ledger's Joker is so popular is the same reason why everybody claims the band Nirvana is better than it actually is |
| 15:06.07 | Monet | Bandwagoning and because Ledger died? |
| 15:06.13 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 15:08.17 | Monet | Bit morbid that: Being dead makes you better at something than you were. |
| 15:08.29 | Monet | you were in life* |
| 15:08.42 | Hachiman | Also I find it very fucking amusing that DC fans are petitioning against Rotten Tomatoes for its ratings on DC movies and claiming it's a biased review site - when Rotten Tomatoes is owned by Warner Bros., who also own DC Entertainment |
| 15:09.21 | Monet | It's also an aggregator. |
| 15:11.09 | Wormy_away | Maybe Rotten Tomatoes is biased |
| 15:11.35 | Hachiman | Rotten Tomatoes gave Suicide Squad a negative score |
| 15:11.56 | Wormy_away | Its the Illuminati controlled Warner Bros |
| 15:11.59 | Wormy_away | ...or maybe not |
| 15:12.16 | Hachiman | Also note the fact that all of Nolan's movies are praised very highly by critics, who, as DC fans will continuously bitch about, "hate DC movies / DC in general" |
| 15:12.58 | Monet | I heard a funny story that while Rotton Tomatoes says it's crap, IMDb says it's good. |
| 15:13.22 | Hachiman | Suicide Squad looks like the kind of movie I'd immediately want to take a shower after rather than talk about with my friends |
| 15:15.38 | Wormy_away | Monet: So I opened some arrows I made in Adobe Illustrator CC at college (should have backsaved them into CS6). They open in CS6 but the arrows need cutting out of the background. My knowledge of Illustrator is very limited, how do I cut them out? |
| 15:16.05 | Monet | I'm also slightly unfamiliar with illustrator. |
| 15:16.19 | Monet | Never took much time to master vector graphics |
| 15:16.22 | Wormy_away | Ah, I'd hoped you would work on it more |
| 15:16.38 | Wormy_away | Photoshop is what I used most of the time by my lecturer liked Illustrator |
| 15:17.35 | Monet | Illustrator is useful because of the vector graphics system |
| 15:20.36 | Wormy_away | I thinkI use the knife tool |
| 15:21.57 | Hachiman | If I do end up watching Suicide Squad, I'm probably going to be biased about how I feel about it because I absolutely fucking hate Harley Quinn |
| 15:22.11 | Hachiman | Like, no matter what media she is in, I despise her |
| 15:23.18 | drom | She is cute tho |
| 15:23.34 | drom | The cute chick made to be hated. |
| 15:23.52 | Monet | Might be best to scrub her from memory after watching it, or judge the performance itself in a "she was crap but her actress was pretty convincing". |
| 15:24.01 | Monet | kind of way |
| 15:24.46 | Hachiman | I'll find her convincing if she manages to make me absolutely hate the character |
| 15:24.50 | Hachiman | Which should be easy enough |
| 15:25.14 | Hachiman | Because apparently she's got some cringey lines throughout and exists to deliver punchlines |
| 15:25.19 | drom | Where is Xho when I need him? |
| 15:25.20 | drom | Damnit |
| 15:25.51 | Monet | Will Smith looks promising. (I see his After Earth performance as the one time not even he could make a movie look good) |
| 15:25.54 | DrodoEmpire | http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=469950447&searchtext= Best EUIV mod |
| 15:26.41 | Monet | (My guess is the -only- reason he did After Earth was for his dumb kid. And this time around he's got his usual commitment) |
| 15:27.05 | Wormy_away | Monet: No cutting required, I simply grouped the shape and then I can export |
| 15:27.43 | DrodoEmpire | "The Katana was the greatest weapon in the world in medieval and early modern history, not surpassed until the invention of the hydrogen bomb. This gives Japan advantages, and the rest of Japan's old, unbalanced (national) ideas" |
| 15:28.56 | OluapPlayer | ayy lmao |
| 15:29.14 | OluapPlayer | katana so sharp it can cut through atoms |
| 15:29.21 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 15:29.22 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 15:33.37 | Monet | Brilliant |
| 15:34.33 | Wormy_away | Blades thin enough to break chemical bonds - maybe; cutting atoms themselves - needs nuclear forces to break up that binding energy |
| 15:34.47 | OluapPlayer | katana can do it through grorious nippon steel |
| 15:34.49 | DrodoEmpire | Good things katanas are just that powerful <.< |
| 15:34.56 | Hachiman | This reminds me of monopolular blades |
| 15:35.00 | Wormy_away | So is a well made flint knife |
| 15:35.01 | DrodoEmpire | forded six gorillion times |
| 15:35.04 | Hachiman | Or something like that |
| 15:35.16 | Hachiman | Blades made of / that can cut monopoles or some shit |
| 15:35.19 | Wormy_away | Stone age peoples had flint knives that could do that |
| 15:36.06 | OluapPlayer | Japanese cavemen invented the katana and became civilized while filthy europeans remained grunting at each other around fires #fact |
| 15:36.14 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 15:36.25 | DrodoEmpire | they wus kangs |
| 15:36.55 | Technobliterator | wait what |
| 15:37.06 | Hachiman | Funny thing is, there are people around today who believe that the ancestors of black people "created" white people and that they had spaceships and advanced tech and shit before the white man ruined everything |
| 15:37.14 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 15:37.18 | Technobliterator | Who wrote that the katana was the most powerful weapon._. |
| 15:37.22 | OluapPlayer | Excuse me |
| 15:37.27 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: Neckbeards and weeaboos |
| 15:37.28 | DrodoEmpire | Really nutty Afrocentrist history >.< |
| 15:37.33 | Technobliterator | ahh |
| 15:37.40 | Hachiman | WE WUZ KANGZ |
| 15:37.45 | OluapPlayer | that meme dumb |
| 15:37.46 | DrodoEmpire | Tech: I linked a mod for EUIV that was satire |
| 15:37.55 | DrodoEmpire | Hachi: ayo hol up <.< |
| 15:38.03 | Technobliterator | Oh, I see |
| 15:38.05 | OluapPlayer | le epic racist man |
| 15:38.13 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13934953_1748236938750129_2832475574124155794_n.png?oh=d662aa5f22cadd50bd658df058b1ce2e&oe=585C3084 |
| 15:38.23 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
| 15:38.34 | Monet | Technobliterator: Grorious Nippon Sterr is old joke. |
| 15:38.39 | Wormy_away | They are dinosaurs |
| 15:38.39 | Technobliterator | The internet is full of all kinds of stupid |
| 15:39.13 | Wormy_away | Maybe the dinosaurs died out because they were stupid bird brains |
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| 15:39.17 | DrodoEmpire | Hachiman: I mean, to be perfectly fair history is full of powerful, wealthy African kingdoms |
| 15:39.25 | Wormy_away | And all fell on ouch other like dominoes |
| 15:39.27 | dino82_ | hi |
| 15:39.31 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 15:39.40 | OluapPlayer | Unfortunately I can't make a joke about Cyrannian raptors with kanatas since they all use lightsabers already |
| 15:39.41 | OluapPlayer | Hi dino |
| 15:39.47 | DrodoEmpire | Why afrocentrists seem to like to ignore this and then appropriate the history of other continents and groups I have no idea |
| 15:40.36 | Monet | Could it be they don't know? |
| 15:40.54 | Hachiman | I remember a while ago that a group of afrocentrists were arguing that white people caused the downfall of Egypt |
| 15:40.59 | DrodoEmpire | Its a respectable and good thing to research the influence the Swahili kingdoms had on trade and culture in the Indian ocean- its silly to posit that the ancient Jewish people were black despite all evidence to the contrary :p |
| 15:41.07 | DrodoEmpire | And means nothing anyway |
| 15:41.08 | Hachiman | And that it was a technologically-advanced nation while the Nubians ruled it |
| 15:41.13 | Monet | It's great to me that one of the world's richest men in history was a) a Muslim and B) African. |
| 15:41.18 | OluapPlayer | Egypt never stood a chance they settled right next to a bunch of man-eating crocs |
| 15:41.46 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: I wouldn't be surprised in many afrocentrists don't know of the Songhai and whatnot |
| 15:42.06 | DrodoEmpire | Songhai, Ethiopia, Swahili, Zulu, etc. |
| 15:42.13 | DrodoEmpire | Mali |
| 15:42.14 | Hachiman | Many afrocentrists happen to be thugs and / or uneducated |
| 15:42.15 | Wormy_away | I think all centrist types do that. Imperios will tell you some neonazis think white Europeans founded Egypt and ancient Asian civilisations |
| 15:42.18 | Hachiman | Which would be why |
| 15:42.26 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah possibly |
| 15:42.27 | Imperios | Aye |
| 15:42.35 | Monet | Hachiman: Well they're part right. Classic Egypt ended at the time of Alexander. Clasical-era Egypt was a mix of Egyptian and Greek culture. |
| 15:42.41 | Technobliterator | Afrocentrism sounds... stupid |
| 15:42.45 | DrodoEmpire | And yeah most centrists try to credit to their people the achievments of others in a sort of pissing contest |
| 15:42.50 | DrodoEmpire | Its extremely stupid |
| 15:42.50 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 15:42.58 | Hachiman | Afrocentrism also promotes killing cops and such |
| 15:43.11 | OluapPlayer | There's no point to such things. In the end we're ultimately all white skeletons |
| 15:43.13 | Hachiman | And encouraging black people to harm whites if they feel threatened by them |
| 15:43.26 | Technobliterator | Oh jeez |
| 15:43.33 | DrodoEmpire | Afrocentrism, in a historical context, basically tries to posit that world history/periods of history revolve around Africa |
| 15:43.45 | Technobliterator | great way to heal racial division, guys |
| 15:43.51 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 15:43.52 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 15:43.57 | Hachiman | It's justified though because those dumb white motherfuckers killed my nigga Harambe for trying to save a kid |
| 15:43.57 | DrodoEmpire | Some with any sort of centrist view, but it has an even weaker factual basis |
| 15:44.01 | DrodoEmpire | *same with |
| 15:44.08 | OluapPlayer | harambe's a literal shitty monkey meme |
| 15:44.09 | Monet | Technobliterator: Sadly an eye for an eye has always been quite popular. |
| 15:44.20 | Wormy_away | People use racism to justify empowerment, there's much more enlightened ways of empowering people |
| 15:45.23 | Monet | Emotion rules with these kinds of things though |
| 15:47.44 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:48.02 | DrodoEmpire | Its tribalist yeah |
| 15:48.39 | Imperios | And yes "We wuz Kangs" is hardly an African-only meme |
| 15:48.51 | Imperios | Russians indulge in it all the time |
| 15:48.53 | Imperios | And Slavs in general |
| 15:49.10 | Hachiman | But Slavs were never kings |
| 15:49.18 | Imperios | Slavs would tell you otherwise |
| 15:49.32 | Imperios | Hachiman: I've seen Russian nationalists claim that the Great Wall was built by *ancient Russians* to contain China |
| 15:49.36 | Hachiman | Vikings and Mongols would tell them otherwise |
| 15:49.39 | Monet | Poland was pretty significant before WWII |
| 15:49.44 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: Yeah white nationalists make ridiculous claims like how the Sumerians were white |
| 15:49.46 | OluapPlayer | All memes are shit except the ones I like |
| 15:49.54 | OluapPlayer | super tolerant man |
| 15:49.55 | Technobliterator | Of course, no source for such a claim |
| 15:49.58 | Imperios | Well actualyl |
| 15:49.59 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: That's a big claim |
| 15:50.04 | Imperios | Russians never had *kings* |
| 15:50.04 | OluapPlayer | UUUU |
| 15:50.18 | Imperios | They had exactly one king and even he was a Pole |
| 15:50.20 | Wormy_away | Whenever Brits try to be "We wuz Kangs" on Youtube it causes an argument with Americans over WWII |
| 15:50.38 | Monet | Imperios: There was a long-running joke in the original Star-Trek that according to Chekov, Russia invented everything. |
| 15:50.39 | Hachiman | Britain wuz kangz though |
| 15:50.58 | Imperios | So was Africa, we are not talking about actual kangs |
| 15:51.12 | Hachiman | Kony is best kang |
| 15:51.43 | Hachiman | Promising a future for African children in war-torn countries everywhere |
| 15:51.55 | Imperios | But what about Emperor Harambe I |
| 15:52.03 | Wormy_away | *God Emperor |
| 15:52.07 | Monet | Imperios: Chekov claims that whiskey was invented by a little old lady in Leningrad. |
| 15:52.14 | OluapPlayer | sure is cancer here today |
| 15:52.15 | Monet | skotch whiskey* |
| 15:52.20 | Wormy_away | Oh wait was this someone who actually existed |
| 15:52.20 | Imperios | >Leningrad |
| 15:52.21 | OluapPlayer | It's like I'm really at 4chan |
| 15:52.27 | Imperios | That's some time paradox shit right here |
| 15:52.28 | Technobliterator | Yup |
| 15:52.40 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: fucking newfag |
| 15:52.44 | Monet | Imperios: :Sixties: |
| 15:52.57 | OluapPlayer | excuse u bitch |
| 15:53.10 | Hachiman | bait.fish |
| 15:53.30 | OluapPlayer | I am literally the biggest oldfag here |
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| 15:55.01 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 15:55.02 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 15:55.23 | Hachiman | Needs to be some sort of equivalent to the old African kingdoms in the Fantasyverse |
| 15:55.30 | Hachiman | Barring Egypt because Sohet and Khaepsha |
| 15:56.12 | DrodoEmpire | An equivalent to the Ethiopians or Swahili would be cool |
| 15:56.15 | Monet | Wouldn't the Khaepsha make that problematic? |
| 15:56.46 | dino82_ | anything going on at the wiki? |
| 15:57.07 | OluapPlayer | Cyrannian updated the Neraida War yesterday |
| 15:57.19 | dino82_ | I saw, very nice story |
| 15:57.23 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#.E2.80.A2LIVE:_Silvan_Raids_Intensify_on_New_Aratacia Been updating this |
| 15:58.00 | Hachiman | Monet: How so? |
| 15:58.02 | OluapPlayer | I was thinking of making a news post kinda like that but I'm not sure how relevant it would be |
| 15:58.07 | Wormy_away | Maybe the Kindom of Axum? |
| 15:58.13 | OluapPlayer | They'd be like, stuff I want to announce but got nowhere else to |
| 15:58.20 | OluapPlayer | Trivial newss you could say |
| 15:58.29 | Hachiman | Also, I still gotta read Florida War |
| 15:58.33 | Hachiman | I mean Neraida War |
| 15:59.08 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Just do what Charles and Drodo have been doing. |
| 15:59.36 | OluapPlayer | Yes but their posts are about ongoing fiction stories from what I can tell |
| 15:59.46 | OluapPlayer | Mine is just "this happened, fyi" |
| 16:00.14 | Monet | It would make the fiction feel alive |
| 16:00.31 | OluapPlayer | I guess |
| 16:00.34 | DrodoEmpire | Mine's... Ehh, won't call it *minor* but its a single world |
| 16:00.38 | DrodoEmpire | So nothing too small |
| 16:00.48 | DrodoEmpire | *nothing's too small |
| 16:01.03 | OluapPlayer | Guess I'll do it now |
| 16:01.04 | dino82_ | Nice things going on! |
| 16:01.06 | dino82_ | Interssting |
| 16:01.11 | DrodoEmpire | Cool cool Oluap |
| 16:02.01 | Imperios | Wormy_away: Axum is Ethiopia, and.... actually yhat could be a thing |
| 16:02.04 | Monet | I made a post on it yesterday that included stock market movements and a politician making a statement that a lot of readers probably already figured. |
| 16:02.22 | Imperios | Hachiman: Me and Xho could flesh out the Khoyan'xa more |
| 16:04.12 | Hachiman | I dunno if that'd be wise; it'd be a race entirely composed of evil, black tribal people who use dark voodoo magic to kill and dominate lighter-skinned foreigners |
| 16:04.46 | Monet | I wonder if it's worth making a new project page for these live feeds. |
| 16:05.23 | Monet | It's getting cumbersome adding to UDB posts thanks to Wikia's new format for them. |
| 16:05.49 | OluapPlayer | I didn't notice any difference |
| 16:06.07 | Monet | Might just be me |
| 16:06.45 | Monet | Either edit the page using this new format (which makes it harder to examine or code tables) or look at the source code for the entire page |
| 16:08.58 | Imperios | Hachiman: That's why I want them to make them more strategical, like the actual Zulus |
| 16:09.35 | Imperios | Rather than the sterotypical savage brutes that we perceive African empires as, they'll be organised, militarist and cunning strategists |
| 16:09.45 | Imperios | *i want to make them |
| 16:10.15 | Hachiman | Make them kangz |
| 16:10.35 | DrodoEmpire | I never percieved African empires as savage brutes, projection-man <.< |
| 16:12.29 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: "we" as in, the usual stereotype |
| 16:12.37 | Imperios | I wasn't thinking of you at all |
| 16:12.40 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 16:12.53 | Imperios | I'd expect you not to, given your interests |
| 16:13.05 | Imperios | Why would you even think that? |
| 16:13.05 | DrodoEmpire | Just messing with you for the sake of it, sorry >.< |
| 16:15.32 | Technobliterator | What new format? |
| 16:15.44 | DrodoEmpire | The whole live news thing |
| 16:15.44 | Technobliterator | There has been no format change |
| 16:16.13 | Technobliterator | "Wikia's new format" |
| 16:16.18 | DrodoEmpire | Right, I mean, I don't think there's been- |
| 16:16.24 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, huh |
| 16:16.25 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#News_from_Borealis.2C_Year_2815 well here it is |
| 16:16.35 | Technobliterator | But I agree with a new project page |
| 16:17.18 | Monet | Technobliterator: I mean how pressing 'edit' now gets you something that isn't 100% code. Like tables and infoboxes as they appear in preview. |
| 16:17.28 | Technobliterator | Uh |
| 16:17.37 | Technobliterator | Visual Editor? |
| 16:17.40 | Tek0516 | At this point you could tell me that Wikia removed everything except the plaintext editor and I'd believe you, my expectations are so low. |
| 16:17.42 | DrodoEmpire | You can select 'edit source' from the drop-down menu |
| 16:17.48 | Technobliterator | Yeah, don't use that |
| 16:17.56 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: That's my point |
| 16:17.58 | DrodoEmpire | edit source? |
| 16:17.59 | Technobliterator | Just go to Special:Preferences and turn it off |
| 16:18.22 | Monet | It's either visual editor or the edit box contains the entire page. |
| 16:18.27 | Hachiman | So, the Minga have closed borders with the PCA |
| 16:18.49 | OluapPlayer | Edit a section instead of the whole page |
| 16:18.52 | Technobliterator | That's why you turn Visual Editor off |
| 16:19.05 | Technobliterator | Then you can edit a section without editing the whole page |
| 16:19.07 | OluapPlayer | Hachiman: Yes |
| 16:19.12 | Technobliterator | and with source editor |
| 16:19.12 | Hachiman | And it looks like the Vengeful Claw are coming back into activity |
| 16:19.23 | OluapPlayer | Indocs - dont know what that is shrug shrug shrug |
| 16:20.00 | Technobliterator | Oh, Hyposirius is what you're calling the station? :o |
| 16:20.16 | Hachiman | I came up with the name hur |
| 16:20.35 | Technobliterator | Also, is URO forming technically news as well? |
| 16:20.44 | Hachiman | Hypo is opposite to hyper and Sirius is the star of the Greek deity Notus of the south winds |
| 16:21.04 | OluapPlayer | I told you the name yesterday |
| 16:21.25 | OluapPlayer | URO is a few years old by the time of that news feed |
| 16:21.27 | Technobliterator | ah, that works |
| 16:21.33 | Technobliterator | Did you? I don't recall |
| 16:21.39 | OluapPlayer | I did |
| 16:22.27 | Monet | Some of this stuff is fairly big |
| 16:23.10 | Wormy_away | http://imgur.com/gallery/2tpdSJA |
| 16:23.16 | OluapPlayer | The last point is the one that really concerns other users |
| 16:23.51 | OluapPlayer | Ah crap I forgot to mention one thing |
| 16:23.52 | OluapPlayer | One sec |
| 16:25.02 | Monet | Yeah the PCA have announced to the galaxy a sizable part of space is occupied by mindless locusts. Even if people stay out of the Karstul sector, the reactions could be interesting given how Ganthorea behave. |
| 16:25.50 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: A-a-a-a-nd bitchiness incoming |
| 16:26.24 | OluapPlayer | F5 that |
| 16:26.29 | OluapPlayer | Added something I had forgotten |
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| 16:27.09 | Hachiman | Vaedoruk |
| 16:27.10 | Hachiman | wat these |
| 16:27.13 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 16:27.22 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 16:27.22 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: The Minga rebel? Deploying Arkarixus |
| 16:27.23 | OluapPlayer | Text is self-explanatory |
| 16:27.32 | OluapPlayer | Arkarixus - fucking primitives |
| 16:27.41 | Hachiman | I mean |
| 16:27.44 | Hachiman | Is there a pic of them or |
| 16:27.49 | OluapPlayer | Not yet |
| 16:28.27 | Monet | This is some interesting stuff. |
| 16:29.40 | OluapPlayer | For those who play Mass Effect, Hyposirius is essentially Omega |
| 16:29.45 | Monet | The Indocs refusing to speak on what looks like a false-flag operation could cause problems internationally. |
| 16:30.13 | Monet | And could stir up some juicy conspiracies. |
| 16:30.16 | OluapPlayer | The unofficial capital of all empires and criminals who reject the authority of the PCA |
| 16:30.57 | Technobliterator | bleh |
| 16:31.03 | Technobliterator | Lost connection for a second |
| 16:31.11 | OluapPlayer | You didn't miss anything |
| 16:31.36 | Technobliterator | I got all messages since I dc'd so it's cool |
| 16:31.49 | Technobliterator | I am hyped for Hyposirius |
| 16:32.38 | Technobliterator | Also, I badly need a URO message template |
| 16:32.46 | OluapPlayer | I want to show over half of the galaxy doesn't actually support the PCA |
| 16:33.01 | OluapPlayer | It's about 40-60 |
| 16:34.37 | Monet | I'm interested. The misconception might be from how most of the nice or welcoming empires we see are part of the PCA. |
| 16:34.56 | OluapPlayer | That's the case yeah |
| 16:35.28 | Hachiman | This will be pretty cool |
| 16:36.17 | Technobliterator | Well, only the Kicath are really rude now, since UNO is no longer a thing |
| 16:36.27 | OluapPlayer | Few races in the Eastern Arm accept the PCA's authority. Most of them are still under the influence of PMCs and people like Billig |
| 16:36.51 | Charles_Bot | Very interesting |
| 16:36.57 | OluapPlayer | The Kondrakar and the Junction also reject the PCA for obvious reasons |
| 16:37.11 | Monet | Was going to say that's the other source. |
| 16:37.30 | Technobliterator | The Kormacvar Legacy also aren't technically part of the PCA, just allied |
| 16:37.37 | Monet | Those who aren't in the PCA are either a criminal empire or a vassal of Billig's. |
| 16:38.09 | OluapPlayer | I imagine the Legacy keeps to itself most of the time |
| 16:38.18 | OluapPlayer | They only get involved when galactic threats show up |
| 16:39.21 | Technobliterator | Remind me to actually work on URO's government pages today |
| 16:39.22 | OluapPlayer | Playing ME1 again and going through the Thorian sequence made me want to have the Ganthorea be relevant, since they're based on the Thorian |
| 16:39.27 | OluapPlayer | And I really like that part of the game |
| 16:39.31 | Technobliterator | I haven't done anything since the species pages |
| 16:40.05 | Technobliterator | maybe when I get back onto the boat |
| 16:41.15 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SafL6Dbu1Lk |
| 16:42.09 | Hachiman | VOTE FOR PEDRO |
| 16:42.31 | Imperios | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pZ50Ndhywg AAAAAAH |
| 16:42.32 | Imperios | SCYTHIANS |
| 16:42.33 | Imperios | <333333333333 |
| 16:42.51 | OluapPlayer | I'm not a big player of Civ |
| 16:43.19 | Technobliterator | I need to ask Cyrannian how he makes planets |
| 16:44.08 | Monet | I think Pedro II was the Brazil leader in Civ V |
| 16:44.25 | Imperios | The Scythian queen is <3, the Scythians in general are <3 |
| 16:44.26 | OluapPlayer | He was |
| 16:44.34 | Monet | There was an achievement for winning a game with him called "Vote Pedro" |
| 16:45.40 | Monet | Funny how this video shows a city with a gigantic stadium when it was published shortly before the Olympics started |
| 16:45.48 | drom | I felt like writing a legend before the foundation of Silvercreek. http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Takoalasko#The_Old_Times |
| 16:46.19 | OluapPlayer | Civ is a game I quickly get bored of. I can't play with other players and even if I did, there is no reason to ever not just kill everyone |
| 16:47.10 | Monet | It's a planner's game. I used to play a lot of SimCity back in the day. |
| 16:49.28 | Technobliterator | I adore playing Civ |
| 16:49.32 | Technobliterator | So hyped for VI |
| 16:49.42 | Imperios | Monet: https://pp.vk.me/c630923/v630923705/3c4da/ceOjbUvk5jw.jpg Apparently the Civ VI leaders were leaked |
| 16:50.02 | Imperios | I believe it because it predicted Scythia |
| 16:50.10 | Monet | I love how Maria I is Portugal's leader in V - the leader they picked was the woman who descended into madness and made it so Brazil became the temporary capital of the Portuguese Empire. |
| 16:51.11 | OluapPlayer | The picture marked as ? looks like a blurry horse |
| 16:51.24 | OluapPlayer | A blurry horse showing off its teeth |
| 16:51.26 | Monet | That one is a curious one |
| 16:51.46 | drom | Monet: Even more funny because Maria would eventually ever be vengeful and see certain things irredeemable. |
| 16:51.52 | drom | So attached to Brazil |
| 16:52.12 | drom | OluapPlayer Monet: Indeed it is. |
| 16:53.20 | drom | Something something CK2 |
| 16:53.51 | Monet | I find it a slight shame how Ghandi is the forever only leader India gets in these games. |
| 16:54.35 | OluapPlayer | Can't remove the iconic nuke man |
| 16:54.50 | Monet | India had some truly great and significant figures (like Ashoka of the Maurya Dynasty) or the emperors of the Muhgals. |
| 16:55.20 | Imperios | I really want them to add Akbar |
| 16:57.30 | Monet | I'm not saying Gandhi's not great. But over 2000 years of history to pick from and six games now and India's leader has always been the guy who used hunger strikes and non-violent protest to end British rule of India all because of one bug from the very first game. |
| 16:59.43 | Monet | Then again England has always been portrayed with one of two figures: Elizabeth I, or Victoria. |
| 17:05.41 | Monet | I think I prefer this image of Victoria https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Dronning_victoria.jpg |
| 17:05.56 | Monet | Back when she was freshly coronated. |
| 17:09.24 | Monet | Imperios: I'm interested in France this time, as their leader is one of the Italian Medicis |
| 17:12.32 | Monet | Oh and whaddaya know https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkIT6iMeYjE England in VI is using young Victoria. |
| 17:18.41 | Monet | Come to think of it, I wonder if Elizabeth is overrated as a legendary queen. |
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| 17:32.56 | Charles_Bot | Monet: She was kind of awesome |
| 17:33.24 | Charles_Bot | Elizabeth I, right? |
| 17:40.17 | Monet | Yeah |
| 17:42.04 | Monet | Though aside from presiding over the defeat of the Spanish Armada and being the monarch who sponsored the explorations of Walter Raleigh, William Shakespeare and leading a time of intense state paranoia. Can't think of much else she was famous for. |
| 17:43.56 | Monet | She was awesome but I'd hardly call her England's greatest monarch. She presided over the birth of the British Empire, but not landmarks like the Treaty of Utrecht or the American Revolution. |
| 17:46.45 | drom | Monet: Give us King John and I've another reason to liberate |
| 17:46.48 | drom | England |
| 17:50.11 | Monet | Lol |
| 17:59.25 | Monet | Looked at the comments. |
| 18:00.12 | Monet | No surprise you have people arguing "but wait I thought Victoria was old and fat?" |
| 18:01.44 | DanzaDelMondo | Well they showed Catherine in different ages as well |
| 18:03.07 | Monet | http://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/images/catherine-the-great-3.jpg she looks very different from how Civ V portrayed her, yeah |
| 18:04.21 | Monet | I suppose in V they gave her a different look to distinguish her form Maria Teresa. |
| 18:04.24 | DanzaDelMondo | Her III self was old |
| 18:04.27 | Monet | Theresa* |
| 18:05.48 | Monet | I suppose in this case, there have been just so many portrayals of "old and fat" Victoria, people forgot she was a stunner in her prime. |
| 18:10.28 | DanzaDelMondo | https://i.ytimg.com/vi/InHiYsSTu7A/maxresdefault.jpg That's still my favourite portrayal of Catherine to date |
| 18:10.50 | Monet | Because y'know, it's hard for the human brain to contemplate that old people were once youthful and sexy. |
| 18:13.32 | Monet | Like... |
| 18:13.39 | Monet | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLKznSVWsAAJZaX.jpg here's Trump in 1976. |
| 18:14.12 | DanzaDelMondo | Monet: Why do I think of Tom Riddle? |
| 18:14.38 | Monet | It's peculiar |
| 18:16.50 | Monet | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/Winston_Churchill_1874_-_1965_Q113382.jpg this is Winston Churchill. |
| 18:16.57 | Monet | ...In 1900 |
| 18:18.53 | The_Randomness | I mean, yeah, in both of those pictures they're 40 years younger than how we're accustomed to seeing them |
| 18:19.32 | The_Randomness | i.e. when they became major public figures |
| 18:19.57 | Monet | The phenomenon is interesting. |
| 18:21.00 | Monet | Like despite how icky it might seem to imagine one's nan going out and dating, the tricky part seems to be imagining her looking as young as your girlfriend. |
| 18:21.55 | Hachiman | So, I'm getting around to updating Dondrik's model |
| 18:22.07 | Hachiman | This is probably my favourite armour set yet on my Sylit characters |
| 18:25.19 | OluapPlayer | gud |
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| 18:30.04 | Cyrannian | Hello everyone |
| 18:30.32 | OluapPlayer | ~punch Cyrannian |
| 18:30.33 | infobot | ACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyrannian right on the nose |
| 18:30.41 | Cyrannian | ~tickle OluapPlayer |
| 18:30.41 | infobot | ACTION jumps on OluapPlayer, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
| 18:31.03 | OluapPlayer | Cyrannian: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#News_from_Borealis.2C_Year_2815 in case you're interesting in some Borealis going-ons |
| 18:31.14 | Cyrannian | Reading it now |
| 18:34.05 | dino82_ | hi |
| 18:34.32 | Cyrannian | Very interesting stuff, I look forward to seeing Hyposirius, perhaps we could tie it into the Syndicate if I ever get around to updating it |
| 18:34.37 | Cyrannian | Hai |
| 18:35.44 | OluapPlayer | Yeah they'd fit there |
| 18:36.02 | OluapPlayer | It's like ME2's Omega but nastier |
| 18:36.34 | Cyrannian | ooh yes, I remember it |
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| 18:52.15 | DanzaDelMondo | Mememememememememe |
| 18:52.16 | DanzaDelMondo | Hi |
| 18:55.12 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 18:57.35 | dino82_ | hi |
| 18:57.36 | Monet | Hi |
| 18:57.53 | Tybusen | Hello |
| 19:07.34 | DrodoEmpire | DanzaDelMondo: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=739104236 |
| 19:07.39 | DrodoEmpire | More Paradox game mods |
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| 19:13.47 | Xho | meow meow motherfucker |
| 19:14.07 | DrodoEmpire | Hi Xho |
| 19:14.11 | DrodoEmpire | Hi Charles |
| 19:14.18 | OluapPlayer | spu |
| 19:14.23 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#News_from_Borealis.2C_Year_2815 chek dis |
| 19:15.13 | DanzaDelMondo | DrodoEmpire: Brilliant |
| 19:15.32 | DrodoEmpire | ayy |
| 19:15.42 | Xho | OluapPlayer: "Some fear open conflict with the Minga is imminent in the near future." Kicath - lol whhy |
| 19:15.45 | Xho | why* |
| 19:16.09 | OluapPlayer | PCA - r u retarded actually i know the answer to dat |
| 19:16.20 | Xho | Kicath - answer is dat u r |
| 19:17.20 | OluapPlayer | Also me and Hachi are no longer doing Odyssey for a variety of reasons |
| 19:17.31 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Odyssey_of_the_Sand/Summary we just made a list of canon events as a substitute |
| 19:17.32 | Hachiman | Yeah, apologies to those involved |
| 19:17.45 | Hachiman | I'm not happy about the decision but |
| 19:17.56 | Hachiman | It wasn't getting done and we didn't want it on our conscience |
| 19:18.41 | Xho | "Taka dies from his injuries." ;~; |
| 19:18.53 | Hachiman | wat ur ;~; at |
| 19:18.53 | Xho | I mean Ndrhthryr wouldn't be so sympathetic but |
| 19:18.59 | Xho | I liked Taka |
| 19:19.14 | Hachiman | You'd not have liked how he died then hur |
| 19:19.32 | Hachiman | Flayed and left on a pole on the outskirts of the city |
| 19:19.52 | OluapPlayer | Nd - i'd cry if it were physically possible |
| 19:20.09 | OluapPlayer | Also F5 that |
| 19:20.22 | Xho | "Alfgund Stonesoul, who dies in the process" NO |
| 19:20.38 | Xho | Fantasyverse: Everyone Dies Edition |
| 19:20.46 | OluapPlayer | Hachi went in a killing spree in this fic |
| 19:21.00 | Hachiman | Only one who didn't die was Khyannarith |
| 19:21.08 | OluapPlayer | By that I mean 2 chars but that's much more than the usual zero |
| 19:21.28 | Xho | Fantasyverse: Two Main Characters Die Edition |
| 19:21.38 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#.E2.80.A2LIVE:_Silvan_Raids_Intensify_on_New_Aratacia - Updates |
| 19:21.54 | Xho | Moon King - an eternity in a sarcophagus know dem feels cat bro |
| 19:22.06 | Hachiman | Khyannarith - meow |
| 19:22.21 | OluapPlayer | Out of mine |
| 19:22.25 | OluapPlayer | Only Volim and Vorius died |
| 19:22.50 | Xho | Santorakh - YIPPEE TWO VOLIMS |
| 19:23.05 | OluapPlayer | Fantasy Volim - nah m8 |
| 19:23.10 | Hachiman | Also, Earath is now a dragon |
| 19:23.17 | OluapPlayer | Half-dragon |
| 19:23.43 | Xho | Riad - still can't travel north 0/10 worst half dragon ever |
| 19:24.15 | Xho | So Zran Kar wants Alhazred back |
| 19:24.21 | OluapPlayer | Vixaatus - we eet sand not snow |
| 19:24.39 | Xho | Riad - actually we eat each other but close enough |
| 19:24.51 | OluapPlayer | Bone-Breaker - #savage |
| 19:25.14 | Xho | Riad - shup ur ded |
| 19:25.22 | OluapPlayer | So yeah we can continue Eschaton now |
| 19:25.37 | Xho | Ah crap I need to come up with a plot then |
| 19:25.51 | Xho | Well I had a plot but |
| 19:25.53 | Xho | I forget things |
| 19:25.55 | OluapPlayer | shuldve done dat before u king of dinguses |
| 19:25.58 | OluapPlayer | king of dingi |
| 19:26.20 | Xho | kang of dang |
| 19:26.23 | Xho | we wuz dangz |
| 19:26.26 | Hachiman | expand dang |
| 19:27.06 | Xho | "Flayed and left on a pole on the outskirts of the city" Ndrhthryr - its not like i havent seen this before |
| 19:31.19 | OluapPlayer | http://i.4cdn.org/v/1470769382482.jpg something related to Mhor |
| 19:31.43 | Hachiman | HUR |
| 19:31.45 | Hachiman | Whoops caps |
| 19:31.50 | Hachiman | http://i.imgur.com/52y11Ib.png?1 Bit of a WIP for Dondrik |
| 19:32.08 | OluapPlayer | dong rik |
| 19:32.19 | Xho | MY NAME'S NOT DONDRIIIIK |
| 19:32.26 | OluapPlayer | kek |
| 19:32.34 | Hachiman | wat |
| 19:32.48 | Xho | Khaadun - what is society Mhor - nigga you don't understand |
| 19:32.55 | OluapPlayer | "MY NAME IS NOT RICK" |
| 19:33.00 | Hachiman | Oh hur |
| 19:33.56 | OluapPlayer | But yeah that armor's pretty good |
| 19:35.22 | Xho | breddy gud nyuggah |
| 19:35.32 | Hachiman | bredy gud :DDDD |
| 19:36.04 | OluapPlayer | oh fug a seelid :d |
| 19:36.14 | Monet | I agree it's looking good so far. |
| 19:36.23 | Hachiman | faggo punch :PPP |
| 19:37.17 | Monet | I'm not sure what else to say |
| 19:37.29 | DanzaDelMondo | Hachiman: Reminds me of WEsnoth Drakes http://orig07.deviantart.net/4187/f/2010/237/1/1/wesnoth__inferno_drake_by_thespaceinvader.png |
| 19:37.52 | Hachiman | Those are cool |
| 19:38.44 | Monet | I recall you showed an old Sylit model had wings on his armour |
| 19:38.53 | Hachiman | That was the old Cycklos model |
| 19:39.14 | Hachiman | I imagine that Cycklos in his Nar form does have wings, made from psychic fire even |
| 19:40.07 | Cyrannian | Very impressive armour, Hachi |
| 19:40.11 | Hachiman | Thanks |
| 19:40.20 | Monet | I'm torn on the idea: Secorative wings may look cool for high-ranking Sylit, but they'd also be slightly impractical in combat |
| 19:40.28 | Monet | Decorative* |
| 19:40.34 | Hachiman | All I'll say is |
| 19:40.36 | Hachiman | Winged hussars |
| 19:40.52 | OluapPlayer | brib |
| 19:40.55 | OluapPlayer | birb even |
| 19:40.57 | Monet | Winged hussars had a mobility advantage that made them harder to hit |
| 19:41.05 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Left comments on Borealis shenanigans |
| 19:41.26 | OluapPlayer | gudo |
| 19:41.49 | Monet | As Grand Admiral of the Sylit republic however, Dondrik could get away with wings on his armour. |
| 19:41.59 | dino82_ | I saw the Sylit ar egettigna reboot? |
| 19:42.10 | OluapPlayer | "Much like a weed reluctant to die, it must be torn from its roots." Maknagrius - we're not destroying my galaxy u weird blue cockroach |
| 19:42.22 | Hachiman | >weed |
| 19:42.27 | Hachiman | Maknagrius - lmao blaze it |
| 19:42.36 | Xho | Blue Cockroach - XHODOCTO VULT |
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| 19:43.26 | DrodoEmpire | Meh I'm cool with stuff that seems impractical |
| 19:43.30 | DanzaDelMondo | Monet: Could be part of his uniform |
| 19:43.34 | DrodoEmpire | For the most part, anyway |
| 19:43.35 | DanzaDelMondo | Rather than combat armour |
| 19:43.44 | DanzaDelMondo | Or rather decorative armour that serves as a parade uniform |
| 19:43.47 | DrodoEmpire | Better than all tacticool shite |
| 19:43.56 | Hachiman | Tacticool? |
| 19:44.28 | DrodoEmpire | Really overmodified, hypermodern gear and tactical accessories on a weapon or soldier's combat armour |
| 19:44.33 | Monet | As an admiral he doesn't have to worry about engaging in fights. At least not during standard operations. |
| 19:44.36 | Hachiman | Ah |
| 19:44.43 | OluapPlayer | Whenever someone saying 'shite' I get reminded of this pic http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/913/002/377.jpg |
| 19:44.52 | Hachiman | olol |
| 19:44.55 | Xho | DrodoEmpire: Agents - must kill everyone inventively tis trademark |
| 19:45.01 | DrodoEmpire | http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/951/718/e4a.jpg - Dumb shit like this |
| 19:45.12 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 19:45.16 | DrodoEmpire | Oluap: ohgod |
| 19:45.42 | Cyrannian | One of my favourite insults is 'gobshite' |
| 19:45.43 | Xho | Okay Agents aren't that bad, that's why they have specialised individuals |
| 19:45.56 | DrodoEmpire | Nah I never figured the agents were like that |
| 19:46.17 | Monet | You wear what you need for the job. |
| 19:46.33 | Xho | I mean Hunter-class Agents like Chi were properly geared up to go to whatever end to find what they need to |
| 19:46.37 | Hachiman | If only there were convincing wing models in the Editor that don't look tacky then I would include wings hur |
| 19:46.37 | Xho | are* |
| 19:46.45 | Xho | Hachiman: armour wings nao |
| 19:46.48 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh yeah, and overengineered toys and whatnot look ugly as sin and can get in the way |
| 19:46.56 | DrodoEmpire | Also probably wouldn't last long on the field |
| 19:47.26 | Monet | "the more complicated you make it, the easier it is to break" |
| 19:47.28 | OluapPlayer | Tis a visual weapon |
| 19:47.43 | OluapPlayer | Your enemy gets disgusted by your gun because it's so fucking ugly, distracting him |
| 19:47.47 | Xho | The most ostentatious an Agent gets is having drones as a deployable unit stored in their armour |
| 19:47.56 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Reminds me of the rainbow finish gun in Gears of War 3 |
| 19:48.08 | DanzaDelMondo | DrodoEmpire: Wouldn't they be expensive too |
| 19:48.17 | OluapPlayer | I tried to play the first Gears of War recently but couldn't get it to work |
| 19:48.22 | DrodoEmpire | Equipment like that? Oh yes |
| 19:48.22 | OluapPlayer | sad muscle marine |
| 19:48.27 | Xho | fok |
| 19:48.32 | Xho | Gears of War is great tho |
| 19:48.39 | dino82_ | bye bye |
| 19:48.59 | Xho | I based most of the Shiarchon aesthetics from the Locust Horde come to think of it |
| 19:49.01 | DrodoEmpire | http://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Afghan-Reconstruction-Patrol-Ensign-Haraz-Ghanbari-US-Navy-PD-Flickr.jpg - For reference, a U.S army infantryman- the U.S army being, by far, the most advanced and effective military in human history |
| 19:49.07 | DrodoEmpire | Most modern soldiers don't even have that |
| 19:49.19 | Xho | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/gearsofwar/images/f/f5/Palace_Guard_Gears_of_War_3.png/revision/latest?cb=20111029124331 c |
| 19:49.24 | Monet | DanzaDelMondo: The biggest obstacle to making your entire army elite solders with cutting edge weaponry is it's abominally expensive. |
| 19:49.30 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 19:49.30 | OluapPlayer | fugly |
| 19:49.53 | Xho | https://dl.groseb.net/Skins/S-LoW/Monster/theron%20guard.jpg Or these guys |
| 19:51.21 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPf6AxeOYPo Kantus are freaky tho |
| 19:51.58 | Monet | Personally I find one advantage to marines wearing Mass Effect style armour is it's a combo ballistic armour and vacuum-safe spacesuit. |
| 19:52.32 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I don't consider *most* sci-fi style armour tacticool, not quite as obnoxious |
| 19:52.37 | DrodoEmpire | Can be, but in a different way |
| 19:52.41 | Monet | Other than that you're probably better off cost-wise giving your soldiers combat fatigues and lightweight armour, maybe with mechanical legs. |
| 19:52.44 | Hachiman | But |
| 19:52.47 | Hachiman | Astartes armour |
| 19:53.16 | Xho | too big 4 words |
| 19:53.20 | Xho | except SPACE MARINES |
| 19:53.23 | Monet | Astartes have tunnel vision though |
| 19:53.32 | Xho | I have no clue what I'm saying btw |
| 19:53.40 | OluapPlayer | Their armor is as big as their heads as small |
| 19:53.46 | OluapPlayer | tiny fucking pea heads |
| 19:53.46 | Xho | Although I think I'm in the right playing field |
| 19:54.07 | Monet | Their shoulders are too massive to see sideways and their backpack (and general setup) makes looking behind quite difficult without some plodding |
| 19:55.04 | Hachiman | http://i.imgur.com/BjD2vZI.png?1 Bit tacky but fuck it |
| 19:55.25 | DrodoEmpire | Nah looks cool |
| 19:55.37 | Monet | Hachiman: Maybe Xho could make you some wings. |
| 19:55.43 | Xho | Would be better if you used DI for it |
| 19:55.47 | Xho | Keeps it consistent throughout |
| 19:55.50 | Hachiman | True |
| 19:55.52 | DanzaDelMondo | Googled for "space marine pauldrons" and found... this |
| 19:55.53 | DanzaDelMondo | http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff246/eviltony/SM%20Special%20Ops/DSC07739.jpg |
| 19:55.54 | Hachiman | Lemme have another go |
| 19:55.56 | DanzaDelMondo | Mother of God |
| 19:56.24 | DanzaDelMondo | Hachiman: "Look at my wings, my wings are amazing" |
| 19:56.52 | Monet | Astartes scout marines have the sort of protection similar to modern soldiers |
| 19:59.44 | Monet | Effective armour (for anything really) is about the right balance of resilience, weight, and ease of movement. |
| 20:01.59 | Hachiman | Ah screw it, I'll not use wings |
| 20:02.09 | DanzaDelMondo | Your choice |
| 20:02.21 | DanzaDelMondo | IF you want some back thing consider giving him spears |
| 20:02.24 | DanzaDelMondo | Or that... |
| 20:02.28 | DanzaDelMondo | Sashimono, right? |
| 20:02.30 | DanzaDelMondo | Sarashi? |
| 20:02.46 | Hachiman | Yeah sashimono |
| 20:03.04 | DanzaDelMondo | Yeah give him a back banner |
| 20:04.45 | Hachiman | Bit difficult with no banners in the Editor hur |
| 20:05.02 | Hachiman | Like, actual things to put emblems on and stuff |
| 20:05.31 | DrodoEmpire | Sorta wish the editor had more stuff, or a mod was released with lots of miscellaneous outfit stuff |
| 20:06.00 | Tek0516 | The outfitter part of Spore is disappointingly bare. |
| 20:06.52 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 20:07.11 | DrodoEmpire | Would be cool to see like historical/semihistorical armour pieces, banners, maybe stuff like scabbards |
| 20:07.49 | Tek0516 | Even what exists requires a fair bit of manipulations (and quantity) to really produce outfits. |
| 20:08.07 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, takes skill |
| 20:08.20 | OluapPlayer | A random piece in the chest, a hat, a pair of shoulderpads and something in the back. That's all you need #truesporeexperience |
| 20:08.47 | DrodoEmpire | ayy |
| 20:09.01 | DrodoEmpire | Or just have an entire civilization of nudists |
| 20:09.22 | OluapPlayer | As for captain weapons, shove everything in the arms |
| 20:10.04 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 20:10.11 | OluapPlayer | Spore's electric blade thingy is pretty metal though. You don't hol it, it gets glued into your fucking skin |
| 20:10.21 | OluapPlayer | hold* |
| 20:10.35 | DrodoEmpire | BRUTAL |
| 20:10.52 | OluapPlayer | You also fire plasma blasts and rockets by doing a little pelvic thrust |
| 20:11.10 | OluapPlayer | no trigger needed just dong |
| 20:11.16 | drom | Hahahahaha, take that you piece of shit, Wikia. |
| 20:11.29 | drom | Go take your stupid inline CSS injections anywhere else. |
| 20:14.19 | drom | Anyway. Hello there Xho and Imperios. |
| 20:14.31 | Xho | Hi |
| 20:15.52 | Hachiman | Also, I'm wondering if Dondrik should keep the title "Firebeam" or if there's an alternative I could use that's a little less silly |
| 20:16.03 | Hachiman | The title essentially being used to refer to Sylit martyrs |
| 20:16.16 | Hachiman | Or heroes |
| 20:16.17 | drom | I've been preparing on a fantasyverse fiction. I considered about interacting with Dalmiric Kingdom, Xho. I noticed it is barebones at the moment. |
| 20:16.39 | Monet | Hachiman maybe something with 'Ember' in it? |
| 20:16.45 | Xho | And defunct |
| 20:17.22 | Xho | Talmyr more or less belongs to the Insomnolence atm |
| 20:17.44 | drom | Ah, too bad because I already settled a civilization there. |
| 20:18.02 | drom | It can be changed though. |
| 20:18.07 | Hachiman | Ember [Something] would be cool |
| 20:18.23 | Hachiman | Or something else pertaining to stuff that is synonymous with fire hur |
| 20:20.34 | DanzaDelMondo | Hachiman: Enkindler? |
| 20:20.38 | Hachiman | Ooh |
| 20:20.43 | Hachiman | I like that |
| 20:21.29 | drom | Xho: This fiction. Incase you are curious. |
| 20:21.31 | drom | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Takoalasko |
| 20:22.34 | Monet | It's just a rumour but according to PC Gamer we're looking at three 'seasons' fo content for the current Hitman. |
| 20:24.13 | Monet | Season one currently has six locations: Paris, Sapienza, Marrakesh, Bangkok, USA and Japan. |
| 20:25.19 | Monet | If season one is any indication, we could be looking at a total of 18 locations |
| 20:26.55 | Xho | Drom: Seems pretty cool to me |
| 20:27.35 | Xho | Hachiman: Just to affirm my curiosity I imagine the -ahv suffix on Sylit names are masculine |
| 20:27.44 | Hachiman | Yes |
| 20:27.47 | drom | Xho: Note that the population is at 350 at its best. |
| 20:27.47 | Hachiman | -ir is feminine |
| 20:28.11 | Xho | drom: teeny tiny |
| 20:28.15 | drom | Mainly because the legacy is inspired by DF |
| 20:28.40 | drom | All capital cities usually have a population between 120-250 |
| 20:28.51 | Monet | That is teeny |
| 20:29.38 | Monet | I imagine DF -could- try larger cities but yeah good luck trying to simulate 1000 people on a single city map. |
| 20:30.00 | drom | Well, Takoalasko is placed in middle of a freezing tundra |
| 20:30.17 | Hachiman | So, Dondrik died during the time of the War of Ages based on info I could find |
| 20:30.24 | Hachiman | What years did that take place in |
| 20:30.31 | Xho | 2754 - 2766 |
| 20:30.39 | Hachiman | Right |
| 20:30.56 | drom | So only finns and those who dare to live in Siberia would live on Takoalasko. Unless they would live in the underground slums |
| 20:30.58 | Monet | long ago |
| 20:31.14 | Hachiman | Okay so that's getting retconned because otherwise he could not have trained Atrox and Cycklos |
| 20:31.17 | Hachiman | So he died after that |
| 20:31.27 | Monet | drom: Even then I imagine a large city up there would be at least 1000 people. |
| 20:31.47 | Hachiman | That or I retcon Atrox and Cycklos to be older |
| 20:31.47 | DanzaDelMondo | DrodoEmpire: http://militaryarms.ru/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/vf6.jpg Would you call that "tacticool"? |
| 20:31.55 | drom | I kinda planned to have Takoalasko to have a settlement in a cave system, serving as a link between aboveground and the underground. If possible. |
| 20:32.09 | DrodoEmpire | DanzaDelMondo: Nah |
| 20:32.16 | drom | Monet: Everything in DF is smaller for both performance and gameplay reasons |
| 20:32.25 | drom | are* |
| 20:32.29 | Xho | Talmyr's quite flat so they'd have to settle close to the coasts where the mountains are |
| 20:33.31 | drom | The area described in the old age legends are quite hilly and forested. So yeah |
| 20:34.44 | drom | Somewhere near that and cold as fuck, yet hospitable for durable flora. |
| 20:35.47 | Monet | DanzaDelMondo: The general idea of tacticool is "over-equipped and over-designed". |
| 20:36.02 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 20:36.03 | drom | Monet: Lot of zippers too |
| 20:36.17 | DrodoEmpire | Overequipped with a lot of high-tech nonsense |
| 20:36.25 | Monet | Your gun will have lots of bits and features you probably won't use, for instance |
| 20:36.25 | DrodoEmpire | Those soldiers are wearing pretty conservative gear |
| 20:36.32 | drom | http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Zipperiffic |
| 20:37.04 | drom | http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TooManyBelts |
| 20:37.17 | Hachiman | I fucking love Too Many Belts hur |
| 20:37.56 | Monet | "You can always tell a veteran combat arms soldier on a second or third deployment. They have nothing on them that they donât need. No fancy hip holsters, no extra ammo pouches, and no extra optics on their weapons. Either the gear is utilitarian or it is mandatory." - found this statement on a website |
| 20:38.20 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 20:39.05 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah even in regulations and productions and the weapons themselves you can see differences in a protracted war |
| 20:39.29 | DrodoEmpire | I mean in both world wars firearms went through constant simplifications and adjustments to make them cheaper and more reliable |
| 20:39.41 | DrodoEmpire | Even if it came at the cost of them being slightly less accurate or something |
| 20:39.49 | drom | Monet: This is also true for hitmen and 'professional assassins' iirc |
| 20:40.09 | DrodoEmpire | Uniforms became simpler and less formal, thanks to shortages and practical experience |
| 20:40.24 | Monet | drom: Yeah. Bond looks good all the time but he'll only fit in in places like the Casino Royale with his trademark getup. |
| 20:41.36 | Monet | Even an Armani shirt will get him noticed if he's walking the streets of somewhere like Casablanca. |
| 20:43.17 | Monet | The dress sense of professional hitmen and assassins are like that of the real ninja - they wear what everyone else is wearing. |
| 20:43.36 | drom | Monet: Constrast Secret Service agents |
| 20:45.16 | drom | Monet: Tacticool turtleneck, balaclava and khakis for +10 to Hiding Skill |
| 20:46.45 | Monet | http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/secretservice.jpg aye, those that stand around the President are there to protect any close-range attempts on his life |
| 20:47.27 | Monet | The guys in black turtlenecks will be a block away or in an adjacent car |
| 20:47.52 | drom | Or in a non-descript van parked at the other block |
| 20:48.53 | Monet | I now wonder if that's the case with the Blood Dragon Guard. Uriel's personal retinue, rather than being in full armour, could dress like the praetors around him (only with more practical finish) |
| 20:48.57 | drom | Monet: Interesting, those suited agents do have bulletproof vests under their suits. |
| 20:49.35 | Monet | I have mentioned in soem stories that wherever Uriel goes, as well as his close-by retinue, there'll be Dragons keeping watch in adjacant city blocks. |
| 20:49.43 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: It'd make sense for some to be dressed like that for sure |
| 20:50.16 | Monet | In fact iirc writing, most of the 'small army' Uriel takes with him aren't the ones that surround him. |
| 20:51.06 | drom | Else you could do what Caesar did |
| 20:51.20 | drom | Give his personal guard big robes to accomdate their armour |
| 20:51.31 | Monet | Unlike secret service agents, Blood Dragons could be protected with projectile-resistant inlays in their suits and PSGs. |
| 20:52.24 | Monet | drom: Come to think of it robes have been an element of Draconid fashion. |
| 20:53.10 | Monet | I think even Uriel's worn them form time to time. |
| 20:53.22 | drom | Come to think of it |
| 20:54.41 | drom | Nomatari require full pressure suits in most non-native atmospheres. Large visors of reinforced glass for helmets (Not the typical retro fish-bowl ones). |
| 20:56.16 | drom | Same thing is done in space to minimize the effect of microgravity. |
| 20:56.33 | Monet | I imagine this picture http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/db/UltanosThroneCHamber.png/revision/latest?cb=20140324194310 would still be accurate |
| 20:56.56 | Monet | As the armour has a ceremonial as well as a combat role. |
| 20:57.23 | DanzaDelMondo | Monet: Well I imagine robes proper do not quite work with their body type |
| 20:57.39 | DanzaDelMondo | I've always imagined them wearing something resembling trenchcoats |
| 20:57.53 | drom | DanzaDelMondo: It would work if they kept their wings around their body. |
| 20:58.11 | drom | I'm mostly thinking about large cloth grabs similar to ponchos |
| 20:58.46 | Xho | "Zipperiffic" Have you ever seen a Super Dry jacket |
| 20:59.14 | drom | I don't know why. But I've some insufferable fetish for robes and ponchos. |
| 20:59.47 | DrodoEmpire | I'm 90% sure the picture used there is from Kingdom Hearts <.< |
| 20:59.54 | DrodoEmpire | For 'Zipperific' |
| 21:00.14 | drom | Yeah |
| 21:00.30 | drom | Same applies to Final Fantasy iirc |
| 21:00.34 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 21:00.43 | DrodoEmpire | tbh KH was the shit |
| 21:00.51 | DrodoEmpire | Such a weird idea, too |
| 21:01.01 | drom | Yeah. KH was the best PS game |
| 21:01.09 | drom | Ugh |
| 21:01.19 | drom | I love too many of the PS games I played |
| 21:01.27 | drom | CoD BRO was the shit too |
| 21:01.48 | DrodoEmpire | I played a ton of PS2 when I was little >.< |
| 21:01.56 | DrodoEmpire | Dynasty Warriors especially |
| 21:02.14 | drom | I liked all of the Sly Cooper games |
| 21:02.18 | drom | Ez |
| 21:02.48 | drom | Jak X was awesome shit too, too bad the save function was buggy on PS2 Slim models |
| 21:02.50 | Monet | DanzaDelMondo: Well I have done a few drawings with them wearing treachcoat-like attir |
| 21:04.37 | Monet | They could wear togas, or a combination of a poncho and a stola. |
| 21:04.55 | drom | DrodoEmpire: Besides that on PC, AoE and CqC games were among the games I played the most. |
| 21:05.09 | DrodoEmpire | Same |
| 21:05.16 | DrodoEmpire | Age of Empires II was awesome |
| 21:05.22 | drom | My favorites being AoE II, CoC Tiberian Sun and Red Alert |
| 21:05.35 | DrodoEmpire | Never played Red Alert, but Tiberian Sun was great |
| 21:05.41 | Xho | Never understood KH |
| 21:05.42 | DrodoEmpire | I also played Seven Kingdoms II |
| 21:05.54 | drom | Yeah, the Tiberian Sun had the extremely nice dystopian feeling. |
| 21:05.54 | Xho | As far as I can tell it was anime + Mickey Mouse |
| 21:06.05 | Monet | I guess one thing to consider with Draconis is what was it that made trousers so ubiquitous in the modern day. |
| 21:06.07 | drom | Xho: Basically FF meets Disney |
| 21:06.11 | Xho | fucking why |
| 21:06.19 | DrodoEmpire | Basically everyone's reaction |
| 21:06.30 | DrodoEmpire | Turned out to be a surprisingly decent franchise |
| 21:06.36 | drom | It is an odd idea, but I shipped it anyway. |
| 21:06.36 | DrodoEmpire | Still not sure how |
| 21:06.58 | Monet | "It was weird, I can't explain it, but I love it" |
| 21:07.01 | DrodoEmpire | 7KII is a pretty strange strategy game but I still play it from time to time |
| 21:07.03 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 21:07.14 | drom | Yeah, I could repeat what Monet said |
| 21:07.29 | drom | DrodoEmpire: What about Worms World Party? |
| 21:07.49 | DrodoEmpire | Basically ancient civilisations, and supernatural monsters/aliens/whatever duke it out among themselves in like a part RTS part Grand Strategy |
| 21:07.52 | DrodoEmpire | Nope |
| 21:07.56 | Monet | Probably some of the better games could be described as that. Like Grim Fandango. |
| 21:07.59 | drom | Great game to play hotseat/local multiplayer |
| 21:08.02 | DrodoEmpire | Also China = Best civ |
| 21:08.06 | drom | Oooooh |
| 21:08.11 | drom | CIV III |
| 21:08.29 | drom | my bad bought it to try to play it, but quit because he could not comprehend how to play it |
| 21:08.32 | *** join/#sporewiki NeonPanda (65b30e25@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.179.14.37) |
| 21:08.40 | DrodoEmpire | Actually- and this'll sound odd- but the only two Civs I've really played are Revolution and V |
| 21:08.50 | drom | I've tried to getting him into playing Civ V several times without success. :( |
| 21:09.17 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: You are a lesser Civver for not growing up with Baba Yetu. |
| 21:10.15 | Xho | HOLY SHIT MICK GORDON IS THE DOOM OST COMPOSER |
| 21:10.21 | Xho | I R8 THIS |
| 21:10.23 | NeonPanda | *breaks into a horrible falsetto rendition of the first half a minute of Baba Yetu* |
| 21:10.53 | NeonPanda | which admittedly is just a series of variations of the two words Baba Yetu but still |
| 21:11.09 | Monet | I got the chance to see Baba Yetu in a concert the other week. |
| 21:11.10 | drom | I've only played III, IV and V. Including that underrated Test of Time |
| 21:11.36 | drom | I ditched an equal amount on playing RCT and RCTII |
| 21:11.37 | NeonPanda | the Test of Time, aka "did I spawn next to the mongols?" |
| 21:11.52 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Yeah well I play Paradox games |
| 21:11.52 | OluapPlayer | Xho: u late |
| 21:11.53 | DrodoEmpire | I'm above mere Civbots |
| 21:11.54 | drom | NeonPanda: I mostly played the fantasy and future scenarios |
| 21:11.55 | DrodoEmpire | :> |
| 21:11.57 | Xho | i didnt follow doom tho |
| 21:12.04 | drom | Loved all of them |
| 21:12.04 | Xho | Mick Gordon did Wolfenstein as well |
| 21:12.08 | Xho | this guy |
| 21:12.12 | OluapPlayer | Mick Gordon made the OST of Doom and the first two seasons of Killer Instinct |
| 21:12.12 | NeonPanda | drom: was a joke |
| 21:12.29 | Xho | this guy |
| 21:12.50 | drom | Xho: ID Software is the shit |
| 21:13.07 | drom | The very first FPS I played was Battlefield 1942 |
| 21:13.59 | Monet | 1942 was the shit. |
| 21:14.00 | drom | My computer engineering teacher is an avid Quake fan |
| 21:14.35 | drom | He often told us the stories of building and upgrading your old white box just for the sake of playing Quake, Heretic and Doom. |
| 21:15.00 | Monet | Disturbingly I remember what I did most often was me and my brother would get jeeps and race around the maps in a circuit, with bonus points for any Nazis we collided with. |
| 21:16.31 | drom | Shooting Japanese embarking craft with the Sherman tank on the archielago. |
| 21:16.35 | drom | The wonderful times |
| 21:16.37 | Monet | Looking back there's something peculiar about using Arnhem Bridge as part of a wartime racetrack. |
| 21:17.28 | drom | Monet: Flying the B-12 on that super-open desert map |
| 21:18.45 | drom | Anyway. I discovered Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri long before Civ 5 happened |
| 21:18.51 | drom | Civ BE even |
| 21:18.52 | Monet | drom: Ever set the AI difficulty so low that they were prone to standing/lying down in the open waving their guns at you? |
| 21:19.15 | drom | Heheheh yeah |
| 21:19.31 | drom | And doing the last stand on that A/D map in a german tank |
| 21:19.37 | drom | Good times |
| 21:20.24 | Monet | "TALLY HOOOOOH" - British commander when the Allies were winning a map. |
| 21:20.43 | DanzaDelMondo | Cyrannian: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Allied_Terran_Republic#Human_Society Just found a tiny detail here that bugs my inner Grammar Nazi |
| 21:20.53 | DanzaDelMondo | "The patriarchal nature of ancient Terran civilisations are but a distant memory to Terrans at the dawn of the 29th Century, who exist in a society free from the gender roles of the past, with gender only being considered a biological difference rather than a sociological one." |
| 21:21.20 | DanzaDelMondo | The last statement is, by the definition of the word "gender", an oxymoron, as gender is by definition sociological |
| 21:21.53 | drom | DanzaDelMondo: So, 'sex'? |
| 21:21.54 | Monet | Gender is social, sex is biological. |
| 21:21.57 | DanzaDelMondo | Yep |
| 21:22.02 | Cyrannian | You are free to change stuff like that |
| 21:22.19 | DanzaDelMondo | You could say that "the idea of gender in the ATR is rendered inconsequential" |
| 21:23.22 | DanzaDelMondo | I would not say non-existent since http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/8a/ElethienPresident.png/revision/latest?cb=20150401162321 that lady still wears a frill dress, so evidently gender norms still exist at least in regards to clothing and appearance |
| 21:23.43 | Monet | She's not human though. |
| 21:23.49 | DanzaDelMondo | Unless it is commonplace for men to wear frilly dresses in public too in the ATR |
| 21:24.22 | DanzaDelMondo | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/9c/CyraHumans.png/revision/latest?cb=20140705203852 Well this human wears a skirt |
| 21:24.29 | DanzaDelMondo | And a bowtie |
| 21:24.41 | DanzaDelMondo | Unless of course men in the ATR wear bowties too |
| 21:24.48 | DanzaDelMondo | *bows |
| 21:24.50 | DanzaDelMondo | Just bows |
| 21:26.00 | Cyrannian | Usually I would explore that, but seems a bit pedantic |
| 21:26.23 | DanzaDelMondo | As I said, my inner Grammar Nazi |
| 21:28.36 | Cyrannian | I mean you can edit the whole sex and gender thing, I was referring to the Spore creations |
| 21:29.50 | DanzaDelMondo | As in? |
| 21:30.03 | Monet | If gender is considered important only in a biological sense, does that mean Terran fashion includes men's dresses and skirts? |
| 21:30.13 | DanzaDelMondo | DrodoEmpire: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/Great_Seal_of_Canada.png Holy shit that looks creepy |
| 21:31.00 | DrodoEmpire | The Queen guides us under her, erm... *authoritative* gaze |
| 21:32.20 | Cyrannian | Monet: I don't see why not, though I admit that I haven't thought about it. |
| 21:33.49 | Monet | That or to transvestitism is considered a perfectly normal thing. |
| 21:33.55 | Monet | Or both |
| 21:36.07 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Ecclessoth_Convocation - Some updates |
| 21:36.19 | Monet | I'd also speculate that Terran men could also wear make-up but that also used to be normal in certain places. |
| 21:36.59 | Monet | Men deserve the chance to be pretty too. |
| 21:37.33 | Cyrannian | The original thing I wrote is probably a bit simplistic, there is plenty of room for societies with gender roles and without in such a civilisation |
| 21:38.42 | Monet | I figured the original thing probably meant "there is no sexism, gender role limits or gender pay gap" |
| 21:38.59 | Hachiman | >pay gap |
| 21:39.04 | Hachiman | >implying wage gap exists |
| 21:39.32 | Cyrannian | Indeed, that's what I probably meant |
| 21:39.51 | Monet | Britain has also had female party leaders and CEOs for several years now. Despite only having it's second female PM. |
| 21:42.34 | Monet | Gender is getting complicated now that there are so many that surveys will probably need a box to fill in rather than a multiple-choice list |
| 21:51.52 | DrodoEmpire | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i39yRAFgsqg shimazu heavy gunners were so fucking broken |
| 21:55.45 | Monet | I remember one of my first multiplayer matches pitched my Feudal army against an army using muskets and cannons...and I somehow won. |
| 21:56.24 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, if you can string a FOTS army out you can win |
| 21:56.38 | DrodoEmpire | Because there's no more square formation, thank god >.< |
| 21:57.01 | Monet | I migth have taken advantage of how crap musketmen are in close-quarters can't recall. |
| 21:57.55 | Monet | they weren't these heavy gunners though. I distinctly recall my opponents were dressed in Meiji-style military uniforms. |
| 21:58.11 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah that'd be a FOTS army |
| 21:59.00 | Monet | Right |
| 21:59.12 | Monet | I think my main advantage was closing into melee. |
| 21:59.28 | Monet | I won by the skin of my teeth |
| 22:00.37 | Monet | The death rate these Shimazo heavy gunners are causing looks like they have an 80%+ hit rate. |
| 22:04.30 | DrodoEmpire | They're close range and experienced, admittedl |
| 22:04.31 | DrodoEmpire | *y |
| 22:04.45 | DrodoEmpire | But yeah they can be pretty savage if you can get them in to range and positioned |
| 22:09.41 | Monet | Makes me wonder how future innovations would change warfare. |
| 22:10.55 | Monet | Artillery and volley fire were some of the things that put an end to close-knit ordered formations. |
| 22:11.07 | Monet | The machinegun helped too. |
| 22:12.10 | Monet | Meanwhile laser-guidance for missiles somewhat killed the dogfight strategy of lining up with your opponent's six. |
| 22:12.12 | DrodoEmpire | Uh |
| 22:12.28 | DrodoEmpire | No, volley-fire was *used* in close-knit ordered formations |
| 22:12.47 | DrodoEmpire | Because the musket was *just that* inaccurate you needed a extreme concentration of firepower |
| 22:12.58 | Monet | Okay then maybe not volley fire. |
| 22:13.03 | DrodoEmpire | Not to be pedantic >.< |
| 22:13.25 | Monet | The machinegun might have been a contributor though. |
| 22:13.28 | DrodoEmpire | And later artillery *did* play a role in disrupting close formations but early on not so much |
| 22:13.40 | DrodoEmpire | Machine-gun, and rifled muskets/breechloading rifles absolutely did |
| 22:13.43 | Tybusen | Machine guns definitely killed the orderly formation |
| 22:13.58 | Tybusen | No point in forming up if you get mowed down faster than you can advance |
| 22:14.05 | Monet | Until WWI the only powers using machine guns were not fighting each other. |
| 22:14.14 | DrodoEmpire | Breechloading rifles helped do away with the ordered line formation as well |
| 22:14.20 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah that's the big thing to remember |
| 22:14.40 | DrodoEmpire | Tactics didn't evolve because this firepower was turned against technologically unadvanced peoples, not against other great powers |
| 22:15.04 | Monet | "Whatever happens we have the maxim gun, and they have not", until "they" turns out to be your fellow European power. |
| 22:15.08 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 22:15.32 | DrodoEmpire | So you had bizarre situations like in Omdurman, where British soldiers fired in formation with their Lee-Enfield/Metford(?) rifles |
| 22:16.21 | DrodoEmpire | Against Mahdist warriors which had swords, spears, and a handful of antiquated firearms between them |
| 22:18.17 | Monet | Hmm maybe this is why the Draconid Imperium kept a battleship doctrine. Until the Andromeda War their biggest rivals were the Vartekian Empire (who they held an on-and-off truce with), the Congregation (who were fought either with the Inquisition or though carpet bombing), or demons (who fight much like the Zulu, Muhgal or Mahdist Sudanese) |
| 22:18.45 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm yeah |
| 22:19.12 | Monet | Aside from them, the Imperium mainly dealt with pirates or much more localised threats. |
| 22:19.33 | DrodoEmpire | (Oh fun fact- Winston Churchill fought at Omdurman as a Lieutenant in the 21st Lancers, who were among the first British soldiers to engage and had to fight their way out of a Mahdist ambush with pistols and sabres) |
| 22:20.18 | Monet | Maybe that also explains the power armour doctrine. |
| 22:20.51 | Monet | When facing demons they charge fast and hit hard, so one way of increasing survivability is to make yourself superhuman. |
| 22:21.17 | Charles_Bot | I'm not sure power armor wouldn't have its uses. Why not have a walking mini-tank? |
| 22:21.38 | DrodoEmpire | That's... a double negative I think |
| 22:21.43 | DrodoEmpire | What do you mean Charles? |
| 22:21.44 | Charles_Bot | It is |
| 22:21.57 | DrodoEmpire | You don't think power armour's useful? |
| 22:22.20 | DrodoEmpire | I mean, perhaps the heaviest sorts might be *wasteful*, or impractical, I dunno, but elite heavy infantry would probably benefit |
| 22:22.26 | Monet | One thing the 'power' element does is partially negate the weight of protective armour. |
| 22:22.30 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 22:22.44 | Charles_Bot | I mean that power armor could be useful in a shock infantry/infantry support role |
| 22:22.48 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 22:24.14 | DrodoEmpire | I imagine most combat gear in the 29th century incorporates some powered elements- Drodo infantry armour, for instance, has some light mechanical enhancements to the legs in particular to assist in running, jumping, and load-bearing |
| 22:24.28 | DrodoEmpire | It doesn't add bulk to the soldier itself though, not really |
| 22:24.29 | Charles_Bot | ^^^ |
| 22:24.41 | Charles_Bot | Good for overcoming obstacles and fortifications and light weapons, but will fall to RPG and anti-vehicle weapons |
| 22:24.49 | Monet | I've considered that Draconid marine armour probably looks something like this http://img14.deviantart.net/654f/i/2013/063/1/5/eldar_nanosuit_by_thevampiredio-d5wk138.jpg |
| 22:24.50 | Charles_Bot | power armor, I mean |
| 22:24.59 | DrodoEmpire | Built in to the framework of the plates which is worn over combat uniform |
| 22:25.29 | DrodoEmpire | Basically they look like Mobile Infantry (movie, not novel) |
| 22:25.41 | Monet | Yeah. |
| 22:25.51 | DrodoEmpire | Oh nice Monet |
| 22:26.22 | Monet | In terms of mobility I imagine they make Tony Stark's best designs look like clunky and cumbersome. |
| 22:26.46 | DrodoEmpire | Jeez |
| 22:27.13 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo have a lot of natural agility, so their combat armour compliments that by being light and focused on improving speed over strength |
| 22:27.22 | *** join/#sporewiki ImpyDroid (~Anders@95.140.92.159) |
| 22:28.09 | DrodoEmpire | (I imagine they recieve plenty of training to refine Drodo instincts regarding running, climbing, and jumping- which are already impressive) |
| 22:28.27 | Monet | Talon Ground Legions might not have so much luxury but I imagine marine powersuits enhance the mobility of the wearer - allowing them to sprint faster, run longer and leap farther. |
| 22:28.43 | DrodoEmpire | Makes sense |
| 22:29.00 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
| 22:29.54 | DrodoEmpire | Not to gas on about the Drodo, but in general its a losing bet for most humanoids to try to chase your average adult Drodo, especially through like an urban environment |
| 22:30.27 | Monet | Talon marine kit is fancier because, well, they're marines. their job is ship-to-ship and orbit-to-surface warfare. |
| 22:30.43 | DrodoEmpire | Instinct, while a clumsy tool, comes in handy regarding when and where to jump, what to grab, how to climb, etc. |
| 22:30.57 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Right, so they're a bit higher prestige |
| 22:31.14 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: More famous as a result. |
| 22:31.48 | DrodoEmpire | To the point where I wonder if in some places there isn't so much as like a ladder or a set of stairs- its expected that your average Drodo would be able to vault up somewhere or whatever else without any issue |
| 22:32.11 | Monet | The marines will secure an LZ/station or rapid-strike a target but the task of occupying a planet is left to the Talon Ground Legions. |
| 22:32.17 | DrodoEmpire | Makes sense |
| 22:32.53 | Xho | just go agent so you don't actually need armour :V |
| 22:33.08 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 22:33.16 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo - Can't make an whole army of agents dum |
| 22:33.29 | DrodoEmpire | *a whole |
| 22:33.29 | Xho | Kicath - course you can we just did |
| 22:33.53 | Monet | ITN - We have at least half billion marines. We're not made of money. |
| 22:34.04 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo - Yeah well Ours look nice |
| 22:34.14 | Xho | Kicath - U FUKING WOT M8 |
| 22:35.13 | Monet | ITN - We don't have infinite resources. |
| 22:35.57 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo - <.< |
| 22:36.00 | Xho | Kicath - neither do we just that we have a lot of it for pew pew purposes :v |
| 22:36.32 | Xho | In terms of material consumption the Kicath are probably among the lowest in a military context |
| 22:36.39 | Xho | Their personnel number is tiny |
| 22:36.42 | Xho | As in, super tiny |
| 22:36.51 | Monet | Actually half a billion might be an understatement |
| 22:37.14 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah extreme quality over quantity |
| 22:37.19 | Xho | The entire number of personnel the Kicath have is less than 350 million |
| 22:37.51 | Xho | >tfw most aggressive allied nation has proportionally smallest active military |
| 22:37.54 | Monet | The entire ITN, if it was 10% of the imperial population is about...740 trillion? |
| 22:38.05 | The_Randomness | I'm off for now, raid time |
| 22:39.53 | Xho | In terms of percentages, 0.00002% for the Kicath |
| 22:40.02 | Xho | I think |
| 22:40.11 | DrodoEmpire | Jeez |
| 22:40.44 | Xho | 2.098Ã10^(-5)% to be precise |
| 22:40.46 | Monet | And if 20% of those made up the TMC that's about 148 trillion, and if the corps follows the 1:9 ratio of soldiers-to-support-crew then the number of marines is closer to 14.8 trillion. |
| 22:40.53 | Xho | My powers of 10 in decimals throws me |
| 22:41.35 | Xho | I should really explore on home security for the Kicath, I did mention they have large-and-scary security drones |
| 22:41.52 | Monet | tfw the marine corps can outpopulate empires. |
| 22:42.23 | Xho | I did make a 'Sentinel' drone which was basically a colossal AI stored in an armed machine |
| 22:42.41 | Xho | The kind of thing that's released when planetary security is threatened |
| 22:42.44 | Monet | I remember these drones. |
| 22:43.04 | Monet | Big 8m long things that blow out your ear-drums if they spot you on a wanted list. |
| 22:43.13 | Xho | Pretty much |
| 22:43.34 | Xho | Although the Sentinel Drones were closer 200m |
| 22:43.46 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo - Oh yeah? We got cops on horses, and angry farming families with guns |
| 22:44.17 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo - That's *our* planetary defense <.< |
| 22:44.28 | Xho | Kicath - [insert mocking Wicker Man quote] |
| 22:44.45 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 22:44.52 | Xho | That moment when Drodo unleash BEEEES on attackers |
| 22:44.59 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 22:46.28 | DrodoEmpire | Though in all seriousness yeah the Drodo make tenacious fighters, even if the only line of defense is a bunch of armed locals |
| 22:46.29 | Xho | The sudden idea of the Kicath astride on cybernetic/futuristic horse-like robots came into my head but there's no real praticality for them to do that |
| 22:46.35 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh |
| 22:46.45 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo did it, and they'd be happy to train Kicath regiments |
| 22:46.46 | Tek0516 | *sigh* think my mom may have broke the wi-fi. >.< |
| 22:46.56 | Xho | Kicath - u gonna need a bigger horse :v |
| 22:47.14 | Xho | There are probably similar forms of wildlife on Paclernos |
| 22:47.30 | Xho | Although a Paclernos Horse would be a massive lizard like beast instead |
| 22:47.39 | Xho | Possibly amphibious |
| 22:47.59 | Monet | XenoGenesis - We can always make you guys bigger horses :> |
| 22:48.04 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 22:48.19 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo could probably peddle an upscaled horse model too |
| 22:48.25 | Xho | Kicath - these look like mahanayans Mahanayans - I FIND THAT OFFENSIVE |
| 22:49.10 | Monet | I was bored so I found this http://images.distractify.com/v0.2/body/2016/08/Dory11.jpg |
| 22:49.18 | Monet | It's a night light, but gets better |
| 22:49.32 | DrodoEmpire | Work in collaboration with the Kicath on the design and then have Drodo officers train the recruits in maintenance, basic skills, swordplay, drill, etc. |
| 22:49.39 | Xho | Kicath - why tho |
| 22:49.46 | Monet | http://images.distractify.com/v0.2/body/2016/08/Dory2.jpg here's the nightlight while it's working |
| 22:49.53 | DrodoEmpire | Oh fuck |
| 22:49.56 | Xho | It would make sense if it were not for the fact the Kicath would do it themselves hur |
| 22:50.06 | Xho | "good feelings gone" |
| 22:50.19 | Monet | Sweet dreams... |
| 22:50.19 | DrodoEmpire | They could, but the Drodo *do* have a lot of experience and a ready-made doctrine |
| 22:50.48 | DrodoEmpire | There's a reason why countries collaborate on training and weapons design |
| 22:50.54 | DrodoEmpire | after all |
| 22:51.21 | Xho | I guess, but try getting a bunch of humanoids to educate the Kicath and it will result in a xenophobic comedy |
| 22:51.25 | Monet | It's easier than doing it all yourself. |
| 22:52.12 | Monet | If they're xenophobic, what about Draconid officers? |
| 22:52.13 | DrodoEmpire | Xho: Dunno, that interaction could be interesting in and of itself |
| 22:52.14 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 22:52.18 | Xho | In realistic terms the Kicath don't see the point in using mounts ceremoniously |
| 22:53.13 | Xho | In fact as a predatorial species the use of mounts probably doesn't cross their mind much |
| 22:53.35 | Wormy_away | wtf https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20160809050550AAAJ2DM |
| 22:53.39 | DrodoEmpire | Well humans were also predators- a middling sort of predators but predators |
| 22:53.42 | DrodoEmpire | *predator |
| 22:54.01 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_away Jesus |
| 22:54.07 | Xho | I guess |
| 22:54.15 | NeonPanda | on the subject of powered armour (I was afk), Fordan armour is basically just designed to compensate for the weight of their equipment, basically +protection with no extra encumbrance |
| 22:54.35 | Monet | Wormy_away: I remember hearing stories of how Hitler was used as a way of vilifying vegetarians. |
| 22:55.30 | Xho | It's not something the Kicath would think of as a worthwhile endeavour though, ceremony doesn't encompass their psyche |
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| 22:55.57 | NeonPanda | Knights use suits that improve their physical performance, but the average soldier basically has the above |
| 22:56.15 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo cavalry aren't ceremonial though, is the thing |
| 22:56.21 | Monet | Xho: Horses are useful for travel. |
| 22:57.16 | Xho | Kicath - orbital bombardment > horse |
| 22:57.23 | NeonPanda | ISF - Agreed |
| 22:57.25 | Monet | A giant genetically-engineered horse may require a lot of food and water (I talked to Oluap yesterday about how much draft horses can eat) but at least if they break down you don't need spare parts. |
| 22:57.25 | Xho | Quite literally their thought process |
| 22:57.38 | DrodoEmpire | Orbital bombardment not always effective or good <.< |
| 22:57.59 | Xho | Kicath - >morality kek |
| 22:58.00 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Drodo bypass that entirely by spending like two centuries working on and perfecting robohorses |
| 22:58.31 | Wormy_away | What do Drodian horses look like? |
| 22:58.41 | Xho | The most moral the Kicath get is that it's a logical decision to be politically cooperative with the civilisations around them |
| 22:59.22 | DrodoEmpire | I figured native Drodo horses that the robohorses are based off of look quite similar to terran horses- to the point that they're colloquially known as the "Coronese horse"- I had a thought that maybe they're an ancient transplant? |
| 22:59.32 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: True. Robohorses probably require less food and water. |
| 22:59.44 | Xho | The Kicath and the Dracogonarious are similar in the prospect that they will order the entire extermination of a species if they've irredeemably pissed them off |
| 22:59.59 | Wormy_ | Transplant is plausible due to it being commonplace |
| 23:00.02 | DrodoEmpire | It'd be justifiable as alien-Drodo interaction well before the Drodo were spacefaring is canon already with the DI |
| 23:00.18 | Wormy_ | Might need some bioengineering to metabolise food on the Drodo plains |
| 23:00.20 | DrodoEmpire | And that the DI were doing so for at least some 2000 years |
| 23:00.34 | Xho | Although they can't really do it any more because everyone frowns on the extinction of a sentient species |
| 23:00.48 | Monet | DI - We thought you guys might like this giant quadrupedal herbivore we picked up from Sol 3. Our human citizens love them. |
| 23:00.49 | DrodoEmpire | Would they do it? Ehh, doubtful- but some precursor might've I dunno |
| 23:01.10 | DrodoEmpire | Even an accidental release of them could've happened |
| 23:01.16 | NeonPanda | inb4 it was an alien college prank |
| 23:01.18 | DrodoEmpire | *terran horses that is |
| 23:01.34 | Monet | Xho: Eh, racism sill seems very alive and well in the 1st gig. |
| 23:01.48 | Xho | But no the Kicath wouldn't use horses or Paclernos cybernetic equivalents as mounts generally because a Kicathian supersoldier is more than enough |
| 23:02.15 | Monet | Why need a horse when an Agent can run at 200mph? |
| 23:02.44 | drom | miles per hour |
| 23:02.46 | drom | ugh |
| 23:02.46 | Xho | Drodo - our horses run at 201mph Kicath - FUCKING |
| 23:02.48 | drom | what are you |
| 23:02.53 | drom | fatsos? |
| 23:02.54 | Monet | English. |
| 23:03.05 | Monet | Limeys still use mph. |
| 23:03.16 | Wormy_ | Its weird because I think in metric for everything but distances up to a mile |
| 23:03.30 | Cyrannian | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/4/47/LibertusFlyer.png/revision/latest?cb=20130713200757 - c what the Libertus used |
| 23:03.46 | NeonPanda | fkin snowflake |
| 23:03.49 | Xho | Kicath - what is it with you lot and using animals for transport |
| 23:04.01 | Wormy_ | British signposts used km/s and miles usually |
| 23:04.02 | NeonPanda | Fordanta - it's only doing it right if you're riding a primitive, alternatively developed version of your own species |
| 23:04.04 | drom | Why bother with steeds when YOU are the steed? |
| 23:04.27 | Monet | Uriel - There's something theraputic about riding an animal you've socially bonded with across miles of open terrain. |
| 23:04.30 | Wormy_ | Because exercise |
| 23:04.52 | Xho | Kicath - >socially bonding 170,000 years of kicathian social sciences disregarded in one sentence |
| 23:05.10 | drom | Wormy_: A centaur riding a horse. mmmm |
| 23:05.53 | Monet | Draconis - You Libertus rode flying dinosaurs? Oh wait forgot, you guys don't have wings. |
| 23:05.54 | Wormy_ | A fat centaur |
| 23:06.16 | Xho | Social bonding doesn't really occur on a distinguishable level with Kicath |
| 23:06.46 | Xho | I mean between two characters in fiction who were estranged family, there's no emotion between them although the circumstances would warrant it |
| 23:06.51 | Xho | In humans at least |
| 23:06.54 | Wormy_ | So that Kicath who got his son assassinated didn't give a fuck? |
| 23:06.54 | NeonPanda | meanwhile Fordanta were basically riding other Fordanta that were more like gorillas |
| 23:07.53 | Xho | He gave a fuck, although the Kicathian emotional spectrum is virtually non existent in terms of body language |
| 23:08.07 | Monet | "I care....inside" |
| 23:08.22 | Wormy_ | right |
| 23:08.28 | Xho | I think I mentioned that the Kicath's emotional spectrum is displayed through spoken language rather than body language, so their grammar indicates emotion rather than the tone of their voice |
| 23:08.31 | Monet | "I just have no way of showing it" |
| 23:08.59 | Monet | Xho: Which I guess explains their colourful spoken dialect. |
| 23:09.12 | Wormy_ | So they're like Vulcans but atan opera so speak with passion |
| 23:09.36 | Xho | I guess |
| 23:09.45 | Monet | I've considered that if a Draconis flips his shit, inside his rage probably makes that angry German kid look tame. |
| 23:10.13 | Xho | There's this theory that personalities change depending on the language spoken in humans, might be similar with Kicath as they tend to be generally aggressive and/or cynical |
| 23:10.29 | Monet | And if a Draconis -does- flip his shit, that rage has been building for quite a while |
| 23:11.56 | Xho | Kicath aren't without mental disorders as it is known |
| 23:12.06 | Monet | Nu - No siree lol |
| 23:12.33 | Xho | I don't exactly know what the equivalents are to humans but schizophrenia is most likely the analogue to a Kicathian mental disorder |
| 23:12.48 | Monet | A Draconis bearing his teeth is either insane, or feeling rend-y. |
| 23:12.57 | drom | "I'm not crying, as per human definiation. You are the one crying. But as a Kicath, I'm indeed crying." |
| 23:13.21 | Xho | Kicathian schizophrenia is probably what the manifestation of emotions via body language is like |
| 23:13.26 | drom | *crocodile tears* |
| 23:13.37 | Wormy_ | The fact that body language doesn'tconvey much of their emotion reminds me of horses. Now horses do use body language but you have to know them deeply to get it. To me the horse looks very hard to interpret, except of course when they're flailing their front legs at you which happened to me twice |
| 23:14.15 | Xho | A distorted experience of reality in Kicath could manifest as actual emotion considering how machine-like they are to a foreigner |
| 23:14.41 | Xho | So Nu probably has a severe case of psychosis in Kicathian psychology |
| 23:14.58 | Xho | To the point where it is also psychosis in human psychology |
| 23:15.14 | Xho | Which means he's on a different dimension by Kicathian standards |
| 23:15.24 | drom | I wonder how would Nomatarians converge their emotions? If any. |
| 23:15.34 | Xho | psychiatry even, not psychology |
| 23:15.40 | drom | They lack lot of facial muscles. |
| 23:15.56 | Wormy_ | They have tails and fur thhough, right? |
| 23:16.08 | drom | That and six limbs |
| 23:16.15 | Wormy_ | Maybe its quite dog-like body language |
| 23:17.25 | drom | Wormy_: Give them snake agility, then they can converge emotions by imitating cats' body language. |
| 23:17.48 | Xho | 2hard2read |
| 23:18.24 | Wormy_ | Cats are unpredictable. Looking friendly one second, trying to murder you the next. |
| 23:19.55 | drom | Noble Nomatarians being cats, Peasant Nomatarians being dogs |
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| 23:21.42 | Xho | Still though I don't see the Kicath riding animals even if they're to their aesthetic standards |
| 23:21.47 | Xho | Not in their nature |
| 23:22.23 | drom | Well. I could imagine Nomatarians being so agile that they can run on either six, four or two. |
| 23:22.31 | DrodoEmpire | Xho: Fair enough |
| 23:22.59 | Xho | Besides most of their security operations are covert to some degree, most Agents in operation are anonymous and are indistinguishable from a civilian |
| 23:23.08 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 23:23.26 | Xho | If you've actively provoked a non-covert Agent to hunt you down then u dun goofed |
| 23:23.28 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo tend to be very aggressive and overt, so cav might not mesh well with the Kicath way of doing things anyhow |
| 23:23.48 | drom | Wormy_: http://images.mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/styles/insert_main_wide_image/public/puppies.png http://images.mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/styles/insert_main_wide_image/public/kitties_0.png |
| 23:24.01 | drom | I guess foxes is butchered bastard mix of those two |
| 23:24.14 | Xho | The Kicath have active security personnel in plain view although it's a rare circumstance when they're needed |
| 23:25.00 | Xho | They're there more for the foreigner populace's reassuring than the native |
| 23:25.46 | Wormy_ | Well, a lot of the fox focial expressions and playful behaviour I see in my own dogs. Though I agree they are cat-like |
| 23:26.04 | Wormy_ | *facial |
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| 23:27.02 | Xho | I could *probably* have seen the Kicath use cybernetic animals back when they were all one state as the Empire, possibly as an intimidatory tactic |
| 23:27.06 | drom | Xho: http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/724/259/21e.jpg |
| 23:27.14 | Wormy_ | Though, they open their mouths a lot moree in display |
| 23:28.04 | Xho | The idea of an Agent on a giant and robotic superbeast isn't something one would want to cross |
| 23:28.11 | Xho | drom: poor taste in women either way |
| 23:28.55 | drom | Xho: Well. I found this trying to find a meme, a chart of emotions filled with the very same face in all fields. |
| 23:29.13 | Xho | Kicath - i get this woman |
| 23:29.49 | Wormy_ | I love how you found an Emma Watson body language chart after sharing some pet animal ones. |
| 23:30.01 | Xho | The Kicath are capable of extreme anger so it's probably something left behind from a more primitive psychology, perhaps a territorial display |
| 23:30.20 | drom | Wormy_ Xho: Actually, I kinda sought after this. https://otterlover58.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/psychopath_emotions.jpg |
| 23:30.38 | Xho | life m8 |
| 23:30.43 | drom | Kicath are, per human definiation, psychopaths. |
| 23:31.27 | Xho | It's difficult to get a Kicath angry enough for them to run at you with the intention of tearing you limb from limb without their thought processes |
| 23:31.52 | Xho | It's a complicated level of anger at that point |
| 23:32.28 | Xho | If a Kicath does get angry at you it's generally a calculated response and probably not justifiable |
| 23:32.41 | drom | Anyway, that said. Nomatarians lack facial muscle around their eyes. They can only squint ever slightly and have normal eyelids. |
| 23:33.06 | drom | I wonder if the shape and size of their pupils would play a role in their emotion convergation. |
| 23:33.43 | Xho | Anyway I'm going to sleep |
| 23:33.56 | Xho | My manager's back from his holiday as of tomorrow and I'm not looking forward to it |
| 23:34.54 | Xho | Mainly because he's an arrogant prick with a unjustified personality for his pay grade |
| 23:35.46 | Wormy_ | Will he be extra-harshly critical of the workplace because he's gone and assumes the worst |
| 23:36.28 | Xho | Not that bad but it's roulette when talking to him |
| 23:36.56 | Xho | I'm surprised he's married with two children |
| 23:37.36 | Xho | He's also got this extremely abrasive voice |
| 23:37.41 | Wormy_ | drom: Considering the pupils need to focused and defocused it wouldn't surprise me if evolution played a role in conveying behaviour |
| 23:38.35 | Xho | And smart enough to the point where I'm his personal spell checker |
| 23:38.44 | Xho | I need to go do something else with my life really |
| 23:39.20 | Wormy_ | Yeah even if the pay is less sometimes an alternative is better |
| 23:39.39 | drom | Wormy_: Probably double irises. One iris to control the focus and brightness. The other to shape the true color of the master iris mainly for the purpose of emotions. |
| 23:39.50 | Wormy_ | Well I dunno actually. One person I know constantly changes jobs, but they are all poorly paid anyway |
| 23:40.11 | Xho | I want to go and do something music related although that's a hard line of work |
| 23:41.05 | drom | Sometimes I wish I applied for architecture than game development |
| 23:41.12 | drom | sighs |
| 23:41.58 | Wormy_ | Well, architecture and 3D are good combined skills |
| 23:42.02 | Xho | I would have liked to have done architecture although the mathematical requirements are a little out of my skill set |
| 23:42.21 | drom | Xho: Physics too |
| 23:42.28 | drom | And lot of technicial knowledge |
| 23:42.31 | Xho | physics is mathematical :v |
| 23:42.57 | Wormy_ | Subtle differences in application |
| 23:43.01 | Xho | I guess |
| 23:43.05 | drom | Well yes. |
| 23:43.33 | drom | I'm a fan of mathematics, but applied applications of mathematics are difficult to comprehend sometimes |
| 23:43.36 | Xho | Either way my artistic skills are stunted because I don't frequent circles with artists of either visual or audible mediums |
| 23:43.45 | Technobliterator | Holy shit |
| 23:43.47 | Wormy_ | I once met this historical architect who said he could work out what bricks were laid down in what order. |
| 23:43.59 | Technobliterator | No Man's Sky is finally here? |
| 23:44.13 | Wormy_ | Not for PC, I've pre-ordered but have to wait a bit. |
| 23:44.14 | DrodoEmpire | Nah |
| 23:44.21 | DrodoEmpire | Its released worldwide the 12th |
| 23:44.25 | drom | Not yet |
| 23:44.29 | drom | Just two days |
| 23:44.36 | drom | Which reminds me |
| 23:44.36 | Xho | It would be nice to move into something that encourages that kind of thought, I don't live in a family of artistic people or musical people so I'm a bit of an outlier |
| 23:44.39 | drom | I need to buy it |
| 23:44.40 | Wormy_ | screams |
| 23:44.51 | Xho | Right now it's going to waste and it's not developing that much |
| 23:45.44 | drom | Xho: I often get into discussions of carpentery and design of homes and summer habits. |
| 23:45.50 | drom | Specially with my uncle. |
| 23:45.51 | Xho | Would be nice |
| 23:46.11 | Xho | Unfortunately my dad's a businessy sorta guy and my mum's a housewife |
| 23:46.12 | Wormy_ | Don't worry about that. Not many scientifically-minded people I know in real life, none in my family which does contain some artistic people |
| 23:46.22 | Xho | They're both supportive but they're not on the same wavelength |
| 23:47.13 | drom | I'm fascinated by the modern ansethetics of wooden oldschool "cabins" and homes |
| 23:47.19 | Xho | Out of the god-knows-how-many-people I have met there's only three of them that have any musical proficiency |
| 23:47.38 | drom | I'm kinda ship those short wide windows they install at a low height |
| 23:47.41 | Xho | As for visual artists, only one I can think of |
| 23:48.06 | Technobliterator | Wonder what the reviews say |
| 23:48.17 | Xho | I don't think I've had a mental stimulus for years beyond count |
| 23:49.12 | Wormy_ | Yeah NMS is going to be released for PS4 today |
| 23:49.13 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 23:49.24 | Xho | Apparently No Man's Sky is actually a survival game rather than an exploration game |
| 23:49.29 | Cyrannian | Hopefully my computer will be able to run it, I could barely run Ark and Space Engineers |
| 23:49.50 | Technobliterator | I would only play on PS4 anyway |
| 23:49.51 | drom | SLI 960's |
| 23:49.56 | drom | fingers crossed |
| 23:49.57 | Wormy_ | Hopefully the survival elements are compelling enough to keep pushing one forward |
| 23:50.03 | DrodoEmpire | Cyrannian: Its a pretty *small* game, I do know that |
| 23:50.16 | DrodoEmpire | It doesn't seem overly demanding graphically but I don't know |
| 23:50.34 | DrodoEmpire | Its somewhat stylised which tends to help |
| 23:50.36 | Wormy_ | I wish the PC version had the little comic book and manual |
| 23:51.13 | Cyrannian | Fingers crossed, it looks great |
| 23:51.23 | Wormy_ | luckily I might be able to borrow them off someone who will get the limited edition PS4 version |
| 23:51.33 | drom | You know what |
| 23:51.34 | DrodoEmpire | Cool cool |
| 23:51.48 | drom | We should make a meet-up |
| 23:51.55 | drom | In NMS, that is |
| 23:51.58 | Xho | OS: Windows 7/8.1/10 (64-bit versions) Processor: Intel Core i3 Memory: 8 GB RAM Graphics: nVidia GTX 480, AMD Radeon 7870 Storage: 10 GB available space |
| 23:52.04 | DrodoEmpire | drom: Not really possible |
| 23:52.05 | Xho | It's fairly mid-spec |
| 23:52.21 | Xho | mid-high perhaps |
| 23:52.32 | Wormy_ | Would love to |
| 23:52.47 | drom | DrodoEmpire: Bah. We have not seen the game's true ability. Yet. |
| 23:52.52 | Xho | Anyway, going to bed |
| 23:52.55 | DrodoEmpire | We'll probably be strewn all across the entire universe, and the way the 'multiplayer' works means that if there's more than like a handful of us on one world we won;t be able to see/interact with all other players |
| 23:52.59 | Wormy_ | If plays do work out a means to meet up, it would add an extra dimension to the game imo |
| 23:53.18 | DrodoEmpire | I've researched this game a *lot*- I know how the multiplayer functions drom. >.< |
| 23:53.29 | drom | Alright then! |
| 23:53.43 | Wormy_ | We don't know everything though |
| 23:53.44 | DrodoEmpire | I'll be pleasantly surprised if we *do* successfully meet up but what I'm saying is don't hold your breath |
| 23:53.51 | Cyrannian | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/99/TrustNoOne01.png/revision/latest?cb=20160809235304 http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/cf/TrustNoOne02.png/revision/latest?cb=20160809235305 - Upcoming story |
| 23:54.00 | DrodoEmpire | True, though, they were pretty crystal-clear in this regard |
| 23:54.06 | Tek0516 | Then we can cross the vast universal distances to carve out our little pocket of the universe together! |
| 23:54.16 | Wormy_ | Players have surprised game devs before |
| 23:54.20 | drom | Those red drapes, Cyrannian |
| 23:54.21 | DrodoEmpire | Lightning pic's really impressive Cyr |
| 23:54.35 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_: That's true |
| 23:54.36 | Wormy_ | Especially things like bug exploits |
| 23:54.54 | DrodoEmpire | In terms *of* player contact I think the NMS devs've underestimated gamers, for sure |
| 23:55.10 | DrodoEmpire | Just dunno about having a dozen of us in one place or nothing |
| 23:55.13 | drom | Sweet pictures anyway. Given that they were made in Spore |
| 23:55.17 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 23:55.37 | Cyrannian | Danke, all the effects are in GA |
| 23:55.51 | DrodoEmpire | Really to be honest I can see there being pretty big pockets of super well-explored space emerging |
| 23:56.00 | Wormy_ | We might be able to work out some system of meeting up with certain numbers if we work out how to find each other |
| 23:56.18 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, share world names/locations |
| 23:56.31 | DrodoEmpire | Have the patience of a saint so as to bear the wait for people to get there |
| 23:56.38 | DrodoEmpire | Make sure not too many of us meet at once |
| 23:56.41 | Wormy_ | Cyrannian: Your crafting of these iages defies my expectations of the advewnture creator |
| 23:56.44 | DrodoEmpire | We *should* be good |
| 23:56.47 | drom | Anyway. Wormy_. I think small round pupils would convey "go to hell" and large round pupils convey 'murder' |
| 23:57.30 | Wormy_ | Scary |
| 23:57.59 | Cyrannian | Wormy_: Glad you like them! |
| 23:58.54 | drom | Wormy_: conveying emotions and behaviour through pupils is an odd idea though |
| 23:59.21 | Wormy_ | Musat be painful trying to get the effects "just right" , as I recall waiting for the right effects to assemble |
| 23:59.40 | Wormy_ | http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/070/061/d96.jpg |
| 23:59.46 | drom | Wormy_: open cheat console |
| 23:59.52 | drom | type 'pause' command |
