| 00:00.05 | Monet_2 | Congratulations Katniss, history repeated itself. |
| 00:00.48 | DrodoEmpire | The romantic part's always the revolution- the aftermath is often too complicated and too ugly to be conveyed through an hour-and-a-half action thriller |
| 00:01.50 | Monet_2 | Reminds me of the other common flaw in the Take Over the World scheme villains aim for - taking over the world is often far more interesting than actually ruling it. |
| 00:03.09 | Monet_2 | There was a marvel comics arc called Emperor Doom where Dr. Doom succeeds in taking over the world. After a while the guy gets bored and realises that unless he much prefers to be one-uppinng the F4. The micromanagement involved bores him to death. |
| 00:03.27 | Monet_2 | that he much prefers* |
| 00:04.20 | Tek0516 | Actually according to the Hunger Games wiki there was an emergency election to replace the President and someone moderate (aka less vengeful) wins it. |
| 00:05.41 | Monet_2 | The line it takes form Fight Club I recall also applies to American Psycho. |
| 00:07.21 | Monet_2 | In one early part, Patrick visits the apartment of his co-worker Paul Allen. Paul's apartment has more expensive furniture, has a nicer view of Central Park and is probably much more expensive. Patrick's response is to offer to help redecorate, decapitate Paul with a fireaxe then move in. |
| 00:07.50 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 00:07.55 | DrodoEmpire | o.O |
| 00:09.33 | Monet_2 | Patrick Bateman's psychotic but the relevant element is still there - Paul ahs much nicer things than Patrick, so Patrick decides he's better off with that stuff. |
| 00:10.14 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: What would be the longsword equivalent of a scimitar? |
| 00:10.18 | Monet_2 | And kills Paul. Is Paul dead? Was Patrick daydreaming? Honestly no idea, the story's not clear. |
| 00:10.43 | DrodoEmpire | Scimitars are essentially llongswords in the Arab world |
| 00:10.57 | DrodoEmpire | Though, they weren't *always* and had regional variations |
| 00:10.57 | Hachiman | Aren't they technically shortswords? |
| 00:11.01 | DrodoEmpire | No no |
| 00:11.03 | DrodoEmpire | They're sabres |
| 00:11.25 | Hachiman | Right |
| 00:11.30 | lukosa | Guys.i dont know about other countries but thieves in greece are actually prety good. A small number are violent but generaly they are nice and many i know occasions of thieves kissing the hands of the elderly (whose house were robbing) for helping them and not call for help |
| 00:11.44 | DrodoEmpire | Though, the Arabs did use straight-bladed swords as well, especially in earlier times |
| 00:11.59 | DrodoEmpire | Scimitars came in vogue later, like the early Ottoman era I think |
| 00:12.22 | Hachiman | I was thinking the Sylits could use some scimitar-like sword designs to contrast with how I gave the Zazane katana hur |
| 00:12.29 | DrodoEmpire | That'd be cool |
| 00:12.41 | Hachiman | Never enough curved swords |
| 00:12.50 | Monet_2 | lukosa: Being nice leaves a better impression. |
| 00:13.02 | DrodoEmpire | Curved swords are good slashing weapons, and the scimitar or the Kilij or the sabres in particular make great cavalry weapons |
| 00:13.32 | Imperios | Maybe Khandas? |
| 00:13.34 | Imperios | khandas? |
| 00:13.40 | Imperios | Khandas can be used with two hands |
| 00:13.55 | lukosa | <Monet_2> yep it does. but it doesn't take away the fact that they were thieves anyway. :P |
| 00:14.02 | DrodoEmpire | Khandas are pretty exotic swords |
| 00:14.11 | Hachiman | I'm taking a look at khandas now |
| 00:14.15 | Hachiman | They look really strange |
| 00:14.19 | DrodoEmpire | They're straight-bladed, but have no tip whatsoever and are basically sword-length cleavers |
| 00:14.22 | DrodoEmpire | Savage weapons |
| 00:14.44 | Hachiman | Ouch |
| 00:14.59 | OluapPlayer | when you wanna both kill and roast your enemy #savage |
| 00:15.03 | Monet_2 | lukosa: It doesn't no. But the point is that to think all thieves are twitchy or guarded sociopaths is a negative stereotype. |
| 00:15.03 | Hachiman | hur |
| 00:15.14 | Hachiman | I mean, that is kind of cool |
| 00:15.29 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: sword-length cleavers |
| 00:15.33 | Imperios | I cdan imagine an Indian Pudge |
| 00:15.35 | Hachiman | But I don't think it entirely fits the Sylits |
| 00:15.35 | Imperios | now |
| 00:15.44 | Imperios | Okay how about some Persian weaponry |
| 00:15.55 | Imperios | ...Which is indeed scimitars hur |
| 00:15.59 | DrodoEmpire | Well yeah |
| 00:16.04 | Hachiman | I was gonna say hur |
| 00:16.10 | DrodoEmpire | scimitars had tons of regional variations that're all basically the same thing |
| 00:16.19 | DrodoEmpire | The Kilij, Shamshir, etc. |
| 00:16.38 | DrodoEmpire | Its the quintessential arabian/Islamic sword |
| 00:17.20 | Hachiman | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/87/Cycklos_of_the_Flame.png/revision/latest?cb=20160801140711 I kinda need to justify why Cycklos would have this long ass scimitar curve sword thing and what type of blade I could compare it to |
| 00:17.35 | Imperios | It looks more like a katana |
| 00:17.40 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 00:17.44 | Hachiman | Yes because swords in Spore are fucking retarded |
| 00:17.49 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 00:17.52 | Hachiman | For fluff, imagine it's a scimitar |
| 00:17.54 | OluapPlayer | he's got a sword cause swords cut people and people sometimes need cutting |
| 00:18.15 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah but swords vary from time and place |
| 00:18.26 | Hachiman | Like, what variation of a scimitar would feasibly be long like that |
| 00:18.35 | DrodoEmpire | Well... |
| 00:18.39 | OluapPlayer | "big scimitar" |
| 00:18.39 | OluapPlayer | done |
| 00:18.44 | Hachiman | Since if I recall they're not any longer than a European longsword |
| 00:18.45 | DrodoEmpire | They're about as tall as a medieval human, yes? |
| 00:18.52 | DrodoEmpire | Because that seems like its fine |
| 00:18.56 | Hachiman | 1.5 - 1.6m, yeah |
| 00:19.00 | DrodoEmpire | Maybe even a bit short |
| 00:19.20 | DrodoEmpire | These were not short swords by any stretch |
| 00:19.46 | DrodoEmpire | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/A_Barkandaz.jpg - For reference, an Indian soldier carrying a Talwar (Indian scimitar) |
| 00:19.51 | Hachiman | "scimitar ËsɪmɪtÉ/Submit noun a short sword with a curved blade that broadens towards the point, used originally in Eastern countries." |
| 00:19.52 | DrodoEmpire | Probably about that same height |
| 00:20.18 | Hachiman | I mean I've never seen a scimitar up close so I cannot judge length |
| 00:20.21 | DrodoEmpire | Yes and a dictionary would be the definitive source for military history :p |
| 00:20.31 | DrodoEmpire | I've handled a sabre before- they're quite long |
| 00:20.42 | OluapPlayer | It should be if it wants to be a good dictionary |
| 00:21.16 | DrodoEmpire | But the thing is that that's not correct, depending on what they mean by "short sword" (a term that lacks an exact definition) |
| 00:21.32 | DrodoEmpire | Or an agreed-upon definition anyway |
| 00:22.09 | DrodoEmpire | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Rajpoots_2.png/800px-Rajpoots_2.png - A few more reference pictures |
| 00:22.28 | Hachiman | Those are not short swords by any stretch |
| 00:22.58 | Imperios | Okay perhaps to decide what kind of swords they had we first have to think about their history |
| 00:23.03 | Imperios | Did Sylits have knights? |
| 00:23.08 | Imperios | or rather |
| 00:23.09 | Imperios | Horsemen |
| 00:23.10 | Imperios | Or rather |
| 00:23.14 | Imperios | Some animals they could ride |
| 00:23.27 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 00:23.28 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 00:23.45 | DrodoEmpire | Curved swords are best used from horseback, especially full-on sabres such as that |
| 00:23.47 | Hachiman | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:United_Veatrex_Federation/SESEP/Military/Soldiers/Mounts Incidentally |
| 00:23.47 | OluapPlayer | I was gonna make a joke but it'd probably come across as bad taste to Hachi |
| 00:23.56 | DrodoEmpire | https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/a3/15/32/a31532da594b3c937db5d54b0484382d.jpg |
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| 00:24.02 | Hachiman | If you bring up the Gators I swear to God hur |
| 00:24.10 | OluapPlayer | Yes which's why I didn't hur |
| 00:24.10 | Imperios | Raptor mounts |
| 00:24.11 | Imperios | Excellent |
| 00:24.28 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: "They ride Gators?" |
| 00:24.33 | DrodoEmpire | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/Mameluke-in-Full-Armour.jpg - No scimitar but badass |
| 00:24.43 | OluapPlayer | Incidentally yes something like that |
| 00:25.00 | DrodoEmpire | Alright so if they cavalry, they had a lot of things |
| 00:25.06 | DrodoEmpire | But among them would likely be sabres |
| 00:25.20 | DrodoEmpire | *they had |
| 00:25.45 | Imperios | Do not forget bows |
| 00:25.51 | Hachiman | Aye, bows |
| 00:26.11 | DrodoEmpire | Bows would come about either way, but doubtless yeah there'd be at least one culture with mounted archers |
| 00:26.34 | DrodoEmpire | Pistols and lances were innovated in large part thanks to cavalry |
| 00:26.37 | DrodoEmpire | Or at least early on |
| 00:27.04 | DrodoEmpire | (Pistols actually having rendered lances obsolete for a long time) |
| 00:27.19 | Hachiman | Yeah I can imagine |
| 00:28.13 | DrodoEmpire | It was much easier and safer to strafe across a pike line and shoot a wheellock at the very edge of it than it was to dedicate full-on with a lance |
| 00:28.25 | DrodoEmpire | (Though they both had approximately the same effective range in combat :p) |
| 00:28.51 | DrodoEmpire | Then for reasons unclear even to me the lance saw a brief revival that lasted until WWII |
| 00:29.11 | Hachiman | Huh |
| 00:30.35 | DrodoEmpire | (The napoleonic wars basically spearheaded [no pun intended] this revival, with the Polish Lancers and the Uhlans- then everybody figured it was a good idea to carry lances around just as breechloading rifles and revolvers came in to use :p) |
| 00:32.15 | DrodoEmpire | (fast-forward to WWI and you have almost every cavalry regiment proudly carrying about glorified pointy sticks right beside their mass-produced bolt-action rifles, double-action revolvers and machine pistols :p) |
| 00:32.57 | DrodoEmpire | (Anyway, end of rant) |
| 00:33.16 | DrodoEmpire | tl;dr scimitars would be cool shit and the scale's right with what you had on that model |
| 00:35.08 | Hachiman | Nice |
| 00:36.28 | Hachiman | I'm just hoping that the Sylits' tiny bodies will not prove too much of an issue to include them in combat against characters that happen to be from one of the many giant races that have become the norm on the wiki hur |
| 00:36.55 | OluapPlayer | Well the wiki norm is every sword is so good it can cut through anything no matter how big |
| 00:36.58 | Hachiman | I mean if Hachi's roughly the size of a Sylit and he coped well enough before his ascension I see no reason why they couldn't |
| 00:37.00 | OluapPlayer | So size shouldn't be an issue |
| 00:37.47 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo're about the same size, so no issue there for sre |
| 00:37.49 | DrodoEmpire | *sure |
| 00:38.06 | DrodoEmpire | Of course if height's ever an issue for them they just hop on a robohorse <.< |
| 00:38.10 | Imperios | Hachiman: I kind of immediately thought of the rogatina when you mentioned size |
| 00:38.14 | OluapPlayer | Or slash the legs |
| 00:38.18 | OluapPlayer | Make them your size |
| 00:38.24 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 00:38.46 | Hachiman | Imperios: The what? |
| 00:38.50 | Imperios | The rogatina |
| 00:38.58 | Imperios | It's a giant Russian spear used to hunt bears |
| 00:39.05 | Hachiman | Oh, right |
| 00:39.26 | Imperios | http://getwar.ru/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/mentalitet.jpg You put it on the ground and plunge it into the bear, using their size against them |
| 00:39.43 | Hachiman | I actually envisioned one of the more dangerous animals that are native to Rambanda or another Sylit world would be mythology-style salamander beasts |
| 00:39.56 | Imperios | He charges and then you plunge the spear, utilising the momentum, |
| 00:40.03 | Imperios | So yeah Sylits should totally have spears |
| 00:40.15 | DrodoEmpire | Similar principle to military pikes |
| 00:40.28 | Hachiman | If Draconis are dragons, Murgur are orcs, and Radeons are elves, then Sylits are salamanders hur |
| 00:40.44 | OluapPlayer | Rovegar are elves not Radeon hur |
| 00:40.52 | Hachiman | Ah yeah |
| 00:40.59 | Hachiman | Still, my drift, you catch it |
| 00:41.18 | DrodoEmpire | Basically you'd just brace yourself, and wait for the cavalry to come to you- if they *ever* actually charged in to the wall of pikes, the horse would fall on the pike |
| 00:41.37 | DrodoEmpire | (They probably never charged a pike square historically btw) |
| 00:41.53 | Hachiman | Yeah that always confused me when movies showed horses doing that |
| 00:41.54 | OluapPlayer | "stupid horse" |
| 00:42.01 | Hachiman | Like, why the fuck |
| 00:42.07 | DrodoEmpire | The horses would almost certainly panic and turn about |
| 00:42.34 | DrodoEmpire | I mean you *could* blidnfold your horse and train it a lot but that doesn't matter |
| 00:42.40 | DrodoEmpire | It was complete suicide to do >.< |
| 00:42.58 | Monet_2 | Only an insane horse would charge through a spear formation |
| 00:42.59 | DrodoEmpire | In a similar way pike formations probably rarely actually engaged eachother |
| 00:43.18 | DrodoEmpire | "Push of pike", as its called, has been controversial |
| 00:43.23 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: So it was more of a way to scare the horses rather than drive them away |
| 00:43.26 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 00:43.41 | DrodoEmpire | 90% of warfare, especially historical warfare, was psychological |
| 00:43.53 | Monet_2 | If they did ram into your pike formation there was the ever-present chance of a 700kg animal landing on you. |
| 00:43.59 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 00:44.39 | DrodoEmpire | But yeah pushes of pike done by reenactors as a test (with blunted tips and armour naturally) almost always resulted in 100% casualties in the front rank and similarly appalling losses a few ranks back |
| 00:44.50 | Hachiman | So, scimitars, bows, spears |
| 00:44.59 | Hachiman | What other weapons could Sylits have? |
| 00:45.04 | Hachiman | inb4 guns |
| 00:45.10 | DrodoEmpire | Personally I figure most pushes of pike were more like games of chicken- two formations would advance at eachother until one pulled back or routed |
| 00:45.17 | Monet_2 | Animals so large that by falling over they risk crushing their riders, or at least their rider's legs. |
| 00:45.30 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh, well that's a broad question Hachi |
| 00:45.53 | DrodoEmpire | I figure they'd come up with just about every type of weapon humans did, unless there's some very compelling reason for them not to |
| 00:46.04 | Hachiman | Fair enough |
| 00:46.22 | DrodoEmpire | I mean, spears, pikes, and the like would make up the majority of weapons in organised warfare for most of history, in to the early 'gunpowder era' |
| 00:46.43 | DrodoEmpire | Swords were sidearms for the most part, in reality |
| 00:46.44 | Monet_2 | Scimitars could be used by the dominant cultures on the planet. |
| 00:46.50 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 00:47.01 | DrodoEmpire | With some exceptions, as its a complicated topic >.< |
| 00:47.03 | Hachiman | Right |
| 00:47.56 | DrodoEmpire | Naturally geography and cultural ideas would shape warfare (and culture's shaped by geography itself), so depending on that we could see some unique stuff |
| 00:48.16 | DrodoEmpire | If the world's very flat and steppe-like, you'd see more cavalry/mounted archers for example |
| 00:48.57 | DrodoEmpire | Historical examples would be useful in any case |
| 01:01.33 | Imperios | Hachiman Monet_2 OluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Sanctuarium#Humans Filthy humies |
| 01:01.41 | OluapPlayer | kill em all |
| 01:02.44 | Imperios | They're the oppressed minority yeah |
| 01:03.59 | Hachiman | Nice |
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| 01:05.19 | Imperios | "Nice" |
| 01:05.23 | Imperios | That's not feedback hur |
| 01:05.34 | Hachiman | Well, I'm a little tired right now, but |
| 01:05.47 | Imperios | It's 4 AM |
| 01:05.49 | Imperios | Talk about tired here |
| 01:05.54 | Hachiman | It's 2 AM |
| 01:06.10 | Imperios | It's 4 AM here I mea |
| 01:06.40 | Monet_2 | I like how the human interpretation of Spode sounds like Odin. |
| 01:06.42 | Hachiman | I think it's a rather interesting development to see that such issues are still present and serve as a major backdrop for the planet's setting in spite of the advanced society and culture of both resident species |
| 01:06.55 | Hachiman | And oh shit, I knew their depiction of Spode sounded familiar |
| 01:07.42 | Imperios | Now Spode suddenly became a lot cooler |
| 01:07.48 | Monet_2 | I myself like this dynamic of whether these Sanctuarum humans are tied to the nations of Earth or not. |
| 01:07.55 | OluapPlayer | Koluap - u wish |
| 01:08.16 | Imperios | Realistically |
| 01:08.33 | Hachiman | I mean, I think I remember something about Jesus or another important religious figure being depicted as a warrior to the Norse to get them to Christianise |
| 01:08.40 | Imperios | Yeah Jesus |
| 01:08.42 | Imperios | H |
| 01:08.46 | Imperios | After all he went to Hell |
| 01:08.54 | Imperios | And fought all dem demons |
| 01:08.55 | Monet_2 | It's like how even after a few generations, the residents of the Thirteen Colonies started seeing themselves as Americans, not English or French. |
| 01:09.18 | Imperios | Monet_2: Early US were a big inspiration for Sanctuarium |
| 01:09.43 | Hachiman | I think Sanctuarium would be a great place to have small stories take place |
| 01:09.58 | Hachiman | I think smaller, less grand and more personal stories are what's really needed in the Fictionverse right now |
| 01:10.18 | Monet_2 | 400+ years of settlement? There are no Americans, French, Germans or Englishmen there any more, only Sanctuarans. |
| 01:10.35 | Imperios | Yeah |
| 01:10.55 | Imperios | I actually imagined a lot of small details for Sanctuarium but am not sure where to put them |
| 01:11.10 | Imperios | Like that there are giant rats living in Sanctuarium subway system |
| 01:11.33 | Hachiman | You mean homeless Radeon? |
| 01:11.38 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I like small stories like that |
| 01:12.12 | ImpyDroid | as in actual rats from Earth who were brought by humans and became gigantic |
| 01:12.27 | Monet_2 | Humanity - Oops :> |
| 01:12.49 | ImpyDroid | Radeons avenge by dropping Vendespode gorillas on Earth |
| 01:12.55 | ImpyDroid | *take revenge |
| 01:13.05 | Hachiman | Radeon - DICKS OUT FOR HARAMBE |
| 01:13.29 | DrodoEmpire | ey laymo |
| 01:13.36 | Monet_2 | These rats could go under something like "lifeforms" |
| 01:13.50 | Hachiman | I can only imagine how freaked Radeons would be if they saw how similar they were to themselves |
| 01:13.58 | Hachiman | And how humanity treats them like vermin or pets |
| 01:14.18 | Monet_2 | I wonder now what are the most common kinds of vermin in the gigaquadrant. |
| 01:14.40 | Monet_2 | Rats are probably fairly spread out in the milky way. |
| 01:14.43 | DrodoEmpire | It may be the similar feeling of disgust people feel when they hear about Chimpanzees and the like being hunted and dismembered by poachers |
| 01:15.31 | DrodoEmpire | Monet_2: yeah |
| 01:15.45 | DrodoEmpire | I've had an idea for a pest from Coron |
| 01:16.31 | ImpyDroid | I also imagined there would be some areas in the subway that are abandoned and serve as refuges for the homeless |
| 01:16.36 | DrodoEmpire | Maybe like a reptilian/avian sort of small creature, which reproduces really fast and have a nasty habit of becoming invasive on worlds and getting on starships |
| 01:16.47 | ImpyDroid | Both Radeons and humans |
| 01:16.58 | Monet_2 | Slikkids are probably quite common in Andromeda http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/7d/Slikkid.png/revision/latest?cb=20130724161135 |
| 01:17.19 | DrodoEmpire | (Also a major part of Drodo cuisine because of how common they are :p( |
| 01:17.46 | DrodoEmpire | CHeap meat and the like, big swarms of them in the air can be easily hunted with shotguns no doubt |
| 01:18.06 | DrodoEmpire | Oh? |
| 01:18.11 | DrodoEmpire | What're slikkids like? |
| 01:18.28 | Monet_2 | Slikkids might be more of a case of being everywhere in Andromeda - if not as pests then as small herbivore variants for seeding projects |
| 01:18.35 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 01:19.21 | Monet_2 | They're skittish creatures, will eat anything, maybe lay a stupid number of eggs at a time |
| 01:19.28 | ImpyDroid | I also considered there being a mafia but then again organised crime is more of a Praestol thing |
| 01:19.39 | DrodoEmpire | Monet_2: Huh |
| 01:19.48 | ImpyDroid | BTW |
| 01:20.09 | ImpyDroid | Milky Way guys, I wonder what sort of stuff could Sanctuarium export |
| 01:20.21 | OluapPlayer | cheese |
| 01:20.33 | Monet_2 | Dats racist |
| 01:20.45 | Hachiman | Religious tourist gimmick stuff |
| 01:21.11 | ImpyDroid | That too but I mean some serious products |
| 01:21.23 | ImpyDroid | It is supposed to be an industrial world |
| 01:21.35 | DrodoEmpire | Could ship all kinds of stuff |
| 01:21.40 | Monet_2 | Well if they're the economic heart of the Divinarium I guess a lot of services. |
| 01:21.43 | ImpyDroid | One thing I considered is that they literally sell worker teams |
| 01:21.50 | Hachiman | PROSTITUTES |
| 01:21.50 | DrodoEmpire | Starships, automobiles, consumer electronics, robots |
| 01:21.57 | DrodoEmpire | Services would probably be a big sector |
| 01:21.59 | Monet_2 | Banking/insurance families maybe. |
| 01:22.02 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:22.16 | ImpyDroid | Like there would be lots of construction businesses and the like |
| 01:22.32 | Monet_2 | It definitely sounds like it's a planet hungry for cheap labour. |
| 01:22.44 | ImpyDroid | Yeah that too |
| 01:23.05 | ImpyDroid | Electronics would make a lot of sense yeah |
| 01:25.12 | ImpyDroid | I also considered that it could be a good place for outsourcing |
| 01:25.31 | Hachiman | inb4 2800s Microsoft / Apple have an establishment there |
| 01:26.24 | ImpyDroid | iPhone 124, powered by rats |
| 01:26.46 | Monet_2 | 124J |
| 01:27.07 | Monet_2 | Powered by iOS 975.5 |
| 01:27.15 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 01:29.11 | ImpyDroid | Then again you usually outsource to countries that aren't as wealthy as yours |
| 01:29.26 | Monet_2 | Was going to say |
| 01:29.32 | ImpyDroid | Then again Sanctuarium is big |
| 01:30.08 | ImpyDroid | You could outsource something to the younger Sanctuarians that work in the upper hives and do not ask for too much |
| 01:30.09 | Monet_2 | Apple or Microsoft build their offices where skilled labour is high and corporation tax is low. |
| 01:30.24 | ImpyDroid | But are still very professional due to their upbringing |
| 01:31.07 | Monet_2 | There could be a combination if Sanctuarium likes to maintain a body of cheap workers. |
| 01:31.33 | Monet_2 | Sell to the youngers in the upper hives, but employ those from the lower hives. |
| 01:31.45 | Monet_2 | for their offices |
| 01:33.22 | Monet_2 | I imagine the planet imports a lot of its raw materials - the planet sounds like it's been heavily drilled out and any new mining operations risk becoming NIMBYs for the planet's elite. |
| 01:33.42 | Wormy_ | Trump can make opposing statements in one http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/03/us/politics/donald-trump-baby.html?_r=0 |
| 01:34.02 | DrodoEmpire | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Co3UJ9pWEAEYt9U.jpg |
| 01:35.13 | ImpyDroid | couple be |
| 01:36.25 | Monet_2 | DrodoEmpire: I am triggered |
| 01:36.38 | Monet_2 | Why would you use the dog filter when he's already cute? |
| 01:37.51 | DrodoEmpire | Even more cute <.< |
| 01:38.18 | Monet_2 | Doesn't work for me |
| 01:38.37 | DrodoEmpire | Eh I guess |
| 01:41.12 | Monet_2 | goodnight |
| 01:41.22 | DrodoEmpire | Night! |
| 01:57.03 | Wormy_ | I love this this, a mathematician creates a proof, mathematicians struggle to comprehend it and are having to work it out https://www.newscientist.com/article/2099534-mathematicians-finally-starting-to-understand-epic-abc-proof/?utm_source=NSNS&utm_medium=ILC&utm_campaign=webpush&cmpid=ILC%257CNSNS%257C2016-GLOBAL-webpush-ABCproof |
| 01:57.56 | DrodoEmpire | Something tells me this requires more than high school math o.O |
| 01:58.31 | DrodoEmpire | The fact that this proof was made by one man, and he made a new form of mathematics is also completely mind-blowing |
| 01:58.40 | DrodoEmpire | The sheer brilliance required is hard to believe |
| 01:59.22 | DrodoEmpire | "At least 10 people now understand the theory in detail" - Only ten? o.O |
| 01:59.30 | DrodoEmpire | Tells you something about how complex this is |
| 02:02.18 | Wormy_ | What I find mind-blowing, is that mathematics at this level is so deep it goes way beyond anything we know about or experience in the physical universe. The brain is able to contemplate abstractions that may not exist in the universe's physical effects at all |
| 02:02.35 | DrodoEmpire | Jeez |
| 02:03.24 | Wormy_ | This one man's creativity allowed him to make this huge leap, and then the rest have to use their full rigour to climb to his proof |
| 02:03.38 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 02:03.54 | DrodoEmpire | Just holy shit, this sounds like an enormous step |
| 02:04.09 | DrodoEmpire | Whoever said the age of individual inventors was over? <.< |
| 02:05.55 | Wormy_ | lol |
| 02:06.33 | DrodoEmpire | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugkjSxnzPDM - Unrelated but this freestyle's pretty damn good |
| 02:06.47 | Wormy_ | I love the way Mochizuki refuses to simplify his work |
| 02:06.49 | DrodoEmpire | I don't listen to hip hop like I used to, but yeah that's pretty alright |
| 02:07.06 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah should it lose something vital |
| 02:07.40 | DrodoEmpire | That or simple arrogance/pride |
| 02:07.43 | DrodoEmpire | Dunno |
| 02:14.55 | Wormy_ | Or maybe it safeguards the pleasure of understanding the proof the hard way (though I wouldn't find it pleasurable), or a matter of respect |
| 02:15.44 | Wormy_ | here we can see it for ourselves http://www.kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~motizuki/Inter-universal%20Teichmuller%20Theory%20I.pdf |
| 02:17.32 | Wormy_ | Its no sleight to the proof but it looks infinitely harder to understand than postmodern journals |
| 02:19.35 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... |
| 02:20.00 | DrodoEmpire | I mean, postmodern journals can have meaning parsed out from them |
| 02:20.03 | DrodoEmpire | But its all gibberish |
| 02:20.17 | DrodoEmpire | This seems like it takes some *very* specialised knowledge indeed >.< |
| 02:34.36 | Wormy_ | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-36954034?SThisFB |
| 02:38.21 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, dear |
| 02:48.25 | Wormy_ | nught |
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| 10:55.17 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink: How do you call bank that does not charge interest? |
| 10:55.22 | ImpyDroid | *a bank |
| 10:55.42 | Liquid_Ink | I'm not sure |
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| 11:18.06 | Monet | Hi |
| 11:20.35 | Imperios | Hi |
| 11:29.12 | Ghelae | Hi |
| 11:30.37 | Monet | Imperios: If it helps, this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4rBSlfylEY gives me confidence Suicide Squad could be good. |
| 11:30.58 | Imperios | I do not want to hear anything about Suicide Squad right now |
| 11:31.03 | Imperios | Or superhero movies in general |
| 11:31.11 | Monet | Ah. |
| 11:31.13 | Imperios | Sorry if I am being rude |
| 11:32.08 | Monet | Nah I get why you don't want to hear anything. |
| 11:34.42 | Imperios | I'll just wait until Saturday |
| 11:34.58 | Imperios | Hopefully the common people will like it more |
| 11:36.42 | Monet | Times like this I say "screw the critics" so I say do it. |
| 11:37.17 | Monet | They're not the almighty dictators of what is good and what sucks. |
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| 11:52.15 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 11:55.13 | Monet | Hi |
| 12:04.47 | Monet | Tempted to write another Taremanon section for the Third House War, but it's some way in to the conflict. |
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| 12:13.27 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 12:13.32 | Monet | Hi |
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| 13:27.17 | Hachiman | This fucking internet |
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| 13:44.06 | Lap_Wormy | monitor is dead |
| 13:44.21 | Lap_Wormy | hi |
| 13:47.37 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 13:47.55 | Hachiman | So apparently the US army is testing body armour made from the silk of genetically modified silkworms |
| 13:48.00 | Hachiman | Also brb gotta go shopping |
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| 15:34.34 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
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| 15:37.57 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 15:47.09 | Hachiman | Back again |
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| 15:48.48 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 15:49.35 | Quark8 | Hey. |
| 15:50.19 | Monet | Hi |
| 15:54.51 | Wormy_ | So I borrowed this massive LCD monitor and now I want one. I can see colours in my animation project I couldn't see before, and Fallout 4 looks even better |
| 15:55.25 | Monet | What were you using before? |
| 15:58.00 | Wormy_ | Just an LG flatscreen, which was pretty descent in size but probably half of this new one. The old one had been hissing for several days intermittently abd made strange flickers, then today it turns on for 1 second before going black again, which leads me to think something has gone faulty |
| 15:58.40 | Monet | Sounds like it, how long have you had it? |
| 15:58.49 | Wormy_ | And I tried to see if it had a loose connection |
| 15:59.16 | Wormy_ | I've had it 2-3 years, but it was given to me by a relative who probably had it 2 years |
| 15:59.23 | Wormy_ | So its had a descent life |
| 16:00.49 | Wormy_ | I think it was quite old, and then some nights back I went outm got really drunk and fell asleep with the monitor and PC on, the next day I left it on all day as well and I think thatmust have oveerheated it |
| 16:04.44 | Wormy_ | That night I had a can of lager, three pints of beer, two glasses of wine, a vodka and coke, and then finished off a half pint, all while jumping around at a punk gig, so its understandable that I forgot to turn my PC off hur |
| 16:05.15 | Wormy_ | I think I went to liay down and then simply collapsed |
| 16:09.46 | Monet | I've had a couple of days where I've had my computer running for multiple days straight |
| 16:09.48 | Monet | Usualyl rendering |
| 16:09.59 | Monet | Although my monitor's fairly recent |
| 16:15.15 | Hachiman | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Dragtillions I gotta suggestion for Featured Fic for Cyr |
| 16:17.28 | OluapPlayer | >literly hear before the Universe started |
| 16:17.30 | OluapPlayer | ayy lmao |
| 16:18.36 | Jepardi | Population: imposible |
| 16:18.43 | Jepardi | 10/10 |
| 16:22.22 | Wormy_ | I think my monitor was just old, I've had it run for a couple of days in the past but this time it pushed it over the brink |
| 16:23.43 | OluapPlayer | I remember I once had an old TV, back when they had fat rears, I was watching a cartoon when the image suddenly went dark and moments later, an explosion went out inside of it |
| 16:23.55 | OluapPlayer | Scared the shit out of me and made the whole house smell like smoke |
| 16:24.03 | DrodoEmpire | Jesus |
| 16:25.01 | Wormy_ | That happened in my house once, but I wasn't around |
| 16:26.10 | Wormy_ | I do remember my family's microwave exploding when my grandparents came to stay. It sent a wave of heat through the house that made my Grandma's hair stand on end |
| 16:27.37 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: I am not sure if the people who are making these pages are kids |
| 16:27.45 | ImpyDroid | Or actually retarded |
| 16:27.50 | Hachiman | Person |
| 16:27.54 | Hachiman | And I am willing to bet both |
| 16:28.12 | ImpyDroid | Person as in |
| 16:28.13 | Hachiman | Because we attract the worst and most deficient of humanity |
| 16:28.34 | Hachiman | Person as in the last couple of retarded pages that have turned up are the work of one person |
| 16:28.34 | ImpyDroid | I wonder how large our fan base really is |
| 16:28.39 | ImpyDroid | Ah |
| 16:28.58 | Monet | A lot of creative people start off crap. |
| 16:28.59 | ImpyDroid | There are probably quite a few people who are just lurking and not contributing |
| 16:29.08 | ImpyDroid | Monet: But not... that level of crap |
| 16:29.13 | ImpyDroid | I mean look at our oldest pages |
| 16:29.32 | ImpyDroid | Me and OP could barely form a sentence in English |
| 16:29.38 | Wormy_ | I think SporeWiki attracts a lot of creative / intelligent [cough autistic] people |
| 16:29.42 | ImpyDroid | And yet our works were still better |
| 16:29.42 | OluapPlayer | And sometimes I still can't |
| 16:29.50 | Monet | I agree with Wormy_ |
| 16:30.17 | Hachiman | A bit like 4chan really |
| 16:30.20 | OluapPlayer | Yes this place has an abnormally high number of special people |
| 16:30.25 | Wormy_ | most of us are academics and all of use creativity in media |
| 16:30.26 | OluapPlayer | Hachi being the most special |
| 16:30.30 | Hachiman | <3 |
| 16:30.32 | ImpyDroid | 4chan but BRITISH |
| 16:30.33 | Hachiman | Wait no fuck you |
| 16:30.39 | ImpyDroid | 4chan with a tophat |
| 16:31.30 | OluapPlayer | Speaking of oldest pages I actually dug through the wiki and uploaded HD pictures of the first versions of my creatures's models |
| 16:31.39 | OluapPlayer | Or at least the ones I could find |
| 16:31.57 | ImpyDroid | Yeah I saw that |
| 16:32.44 | ImpyDroid | You actually maintained most of your creatures' overall appearance pretty well over remodels |
| 16:33.00 | ImpyDroid | They changed but you can see these are the same thing |
| 16:33.03 | OluapPlayer | Yeah that's something I'm actually rather proud of |
| 16:33.05 | Hachiman | I probably fucking butchered Falco's Sylits looking back at it but |
| 16:33.20 | Hachiman | Most of my creatures share the same body hur |
| 16:33.22 | ImpyDroid | And I butchered my own species |
| 16:33.26 | OluapPlayer | Some of them suffered huge changes though |
| 16:33.33 | OluapPlayer | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/4/4e/Kondrakar_Original.png/revision/latest?cb=20160803022309 for example the very first Kondrakar looked like this |
| 16:37.16 | OluapPlayer | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/c6/Kormacvar_Original.png/revision/latest?cb=20160803155014 fuck u primitive u get thrown off the airlock |
| 16:38.19 | Imperios | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/90/Radeon_PNG.png/revision/latest?cb=20091205145327 Look at ye olde Radeons tho |
| 16:38.42 | OluapPlayer | shoulder pistols |
| 16:38.56 | OluapPlayer | That's a typical GA captain right there |
| 16:39.32 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Creature%3ARadeon&diff=148914&oldid=147826 Wow look at dat plot |
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| 16:40.04 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 16:40.18 | dino82_ | Nice! |
| 16:40.46 | OluapPlayer | That top quote hatin on me |
| 16:40.47 | OluapPlayer | y tho |
| 16:41.18 | Imperios | I remember you not liking Spode back then |
| 16:41.24 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 16:41.27 | Imperios | I was also your fan |
| 16:41.36 | Imperios | So that was my way of immortalising you |
| 16:41.37 | OluapPlayer | I still don't like Spode now |
| 16:42.01 | OluapPlayer | remove zealot *tips diplomat archetype* |
| 16:42.27 | Hachiman | wow y duntchu go make friends wiv irsk agen u wud hav a lot 2 talk bout |
| 16:43.07 | Imperios | fuk u |
| 16:43.12 | Imperios | our superpower is best |
| 16:43.12 | AdmiralPanda | my fondest memory of Irskaad was when Ghelae used him as a point-defence turret |
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| 16:43.18 | Imperios | Spode stronk |
| 16:43.18 | AdmiralPanda | that was a good moment there |
| 16:43.34 | OluapPlayer | Nah superpower that makes everyone your enemy aren't worth it |
| 16:43.42 | OluapPlayer | I always find the Diplomat superpower the best in the game |
| 16:43.43 | Imperios | Except when you ally the Grox |
| 16:43.47 | Imperios | Then you do not care |
| 16:43.53 | OluapPlayer | found* |
| 16:44.01 | Imperios | Because everyone is your enemy anyway |
| 16:44.24 | Hachiman | I wonder if the fact that the Devourer's Chosen and the Corruptus consist of fanatical, zealous daemons and cultists is a projection of Oluap's own antitheist interests |
| 16:44.55 | OluapPlayer | Actually they're based on Chaos Space Marines |
| 16:45.24 | Hachiman | bet its how u see aktul religus ppl tho |
| 16:45.26 | Monet | Chaos are much more fun |
| 16:45.40 | OluapPlayer | mite as well b |
| 16:45.53 | Hachiman | Chaos is fun up until Slaanesh fucks you in the ass or you get played by Tzeentch |
| 16:46.33 | OluapPlayer | Yes but the wiki has neither, isntead you get Shu'rimrodir who has all of Nurgle's care and all of Khorne's anger in on |
| 16:46.34 | OluapPlayer | one |
| 16:46.45 | Hachiman | Quite contradictory that |
| 16:46.56 | Hachiman | I never considered Shu'rimrodir as a very caring figure |
| 16:47.01 | OluapPlayer | He likes his things and wants everything else to burn |
| 16:47.17 | Hachiman | He's always come off like he uses people rather than cares for them |
| 16:47.23 | OluapPlayer | Of course not, he barely appears in stories |
| 16:48.00 | OluapPlayer | He's supposed to be a father to his demonic spawn and servants, in a giant angry demon god kind of way |
| 16:48.20 | Hachiman | Nurgle is best 40k Chaos God anyway, while Khorne is best FB Chaos God because his 40k equivalent is a faggot asshole gay retard |
| 16:48.32 | OluapPlayer | umad |
| 16:48.34 | OluapPlayer | like khorne |
| 16:49.56 | OluapPlayer | I still think the Chosen was one of my best fictions |
| 16:50.14 | Monet | I've noticed his servants seem less inclined to act as parents to servant |
| 16:50.18 | Monet | servants |
| 16:50.48 | Hachiman | Compare "god of martial focus, bloodshed, warriors, and honour" to "god of mindless anger, ragetards, bloodshed, and insanity" |
| 16:51.45 | Monet | Reminds me of the difference between Mars and Ares that |
| 16:52.16 | OluapPlayer | Out of the Vanguards, I guess Mahedore, Vouinas and Geltastra are the ones who act closer to Shu'rimrodir |
| 16:52.35 | OluapPlayer | The others act more like Shu'wokerama, who's literally Shu'rimrodir's manifested hatred for the Vida'Rra |
| 16:52.56 | Hachiman | I feel like 40k Khorne is a very heavily flanderized version of FB Khorne with none of the redeeming or appealing qualities |
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| 16:53.54 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 16:54.14 | ImpyDroid | Khorne has always felt like the most "mainstream" Chaos God to me |
| 16:55.11 | ImpyDroid | He is the closest to traditional pop culture demons in terms of appearance and is generally the most commonly used Chaos God both in video games and in tabletop fluff |
| 16:55.35 | ImpyDroid | Age of Reckoning was an exception |
| 16:55.38 | ImpyDroid | But still |
| 16:56.09 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: So Woker is in general more of a dick that Rim? |
| 16:57.05 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
| 16:57.10 | OluapPlayer | That's been the case from the start |
| 16:57.15 | ImpyDroid | I wonder why they don't use Tzeentch |
| 16:57.43 | ImpyDroid | Discord, Loki and Bill Cipher have proven that pop culture generally likes lol-random gods of trickery like him |
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| 16:57.49 | Hachiman | Fucking internet goddammit |
| 16:58.02 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Khorne has always felt like the most "mainstream" Chaos God to me |
| 16:58.08 | ImpyDroid | He is the closest to traditional pop culture demons in terms of appearance and is generally the most commonly used Chaos God both in video games and in tabletop fluff |
| 16:58.16 | ImpyDroid | I wonder why they don't use Tzeentch |
| 16:58.29 | ImpyDroid | Discord, Loki and Bill Cipher have proven that the public generally likes lol-random gods of trickery like him |
| 16:58.38 | Hachiman | Because Tzeentch is far too overly "complex"# |
| 16:58.50 | OluapPlayer | Shu'rimrodir is indifferent, Shu'wokerama is violent and abrasive, Shu'ytrogarva is cruel and scheming and Shu'suvreca is... there |
| 16:58.53 | ImpyDroid | Thing is his complexity is only superficial |
| 16:59.09 | ImpyDroid | He is mostly just lolrandom |
| 16:59.10 | Hachiman | And I use complex lightly for Tzeentch because if he is used in a plot then it means that the nature of Tzeentch allows the enemy's motivations to be absolute garbage and make no sense |
| 16:59.59 | Hachiman | Also I am part of the club that believes that Nurgle and Isha do love each other very much |
| 17:00.11 | OluapPlayer | Nah Isha is a prisoner |
| 17:00.28 | OluapPlayer | And Nurgle's equivalent of love is shoving terrible pestilence down her throat |
| 17:01.04 | Hachiman | Thing is, I heard that Nurgle actually knows Isha whispers cures to mortalkind to counter his diseases and he lets her do it |
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| 17:01.14 | Hachiman | Rather than trying to stop her |
| 17:01.30 | OluapPlayer | Nurgles likes her but she doesn't like him back |
| 17:02.41 | Hachiman | Isha is unsafe anywhere else however because Khorne wants to rip her a new asshole like he does with everyone and Slaanesh wants to rip her a new asshole like it does with everyone |
| 17:02.48 | Hachiman | And Nurgle actively protects her |
| 17:03.03 | OluapPlayer | She doesn't like him |
| 17:08.38 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: And Shu'suvreca is OMNOMNOMNOM |
| 17:16.58 | AdmiralPanda | I come back to this tab to see Hachi wondering if Isha has stockholm |
| 17:17.31 | AdmiralPanda | Nurgle keeps Isha around because she can cure herself of anything, making her the perfect test subject- she's basically a self renewing guinea pig |
| 17:17.53 | AdmiralPanda | Isha only keeps curing herself because she can then tell the Eldar how to deal with that shit |
| 17:18.54 | Hachiman | I mean, it's never been said that Isha has tried to escape from Nurgle's Garden which should be easy enough given that she's a goddess of healing that can counteract Nurgle's Warp magic |
| 17:19.09 | OluapPlayer | It's not because she likes him |
| 17:19.17 | OluapPlayer | It's because of all the dangers you mentioned |
| 17:19.40 | AdmiralPanda | and it's because she stays around to help the Eldar |
| 17:20.09 | OluapPlayer | That too but I imagine a good portion of the reason is the former |
| 17:20.12 | AdmiralPanda | she doesn't want to escape because that would be counter to her goal of interfering with Nurgle |
| 17:20.28 | Hachiman | Nurgle doesn't try to stop her though when she whispers her cures to the Eldar |
| 17:20.57 | Hachiman | As far as I know, he is aware that she does it |
| 17:21.19 | Monet | They've been doing it for at least 10,000 years. |
| 17:23.09 | AdmiralPanda | ok, I whipped out all three of my codexes and looked for mentions of Isha. In all three it says she accepts her lot because it's the only way she can fight against the forces of chaos |
| 17:23.10 | Hachiman | Fatty just wants the hot Eldar girl to accept him |
| 17:23.47 | Imperios | Literal neckbeard god |
| 17:23.53 | Imperios | "I'm a nice guy I promise" |
| 17:23.58 | Imperios | "Not like this Khorne chad? |
| 17:23.59 | AdmiralPanda | as far as Nurgle goes, he's basically santa claus- he probably does have affections for her because he kinda does for everyone- he likes giving gifts, in the form of diseases |
| 17:23.59 | Hachiman | Except he actually is a nice guy |
| 17:24.00 | Imperios | " |
| 17:24.05 | OluapPlayer | dare you enter my literal magical realm |
| 17:24.36 | Hachiman | Nurgle's not an asshole like most neckbeards are and he does have other beneficial characteristics than just "being nice" |
| 17:24.52 | OluapPlayer | "I can cook" |
| 17:24.55 | Hachiman | hur |
| 17:25.08 | Hachiman | You'd be surprised how beneficial being able to cook is |
| 17:25.17 | OluapPlayer | I mean as in |
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| 17:25.25 | OluapPlayer | I can cook terrible diseases but I can cook |
| 17:26.30 | Hachiman | inb4 Nurgle's favourite dish is Mexican |
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| 17:29.24 | AdmiralPanda | haven't seen any references to Nurgle knowing about Isha's whispering |
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| 17:29.37 | AdmiralPanda | and I'm looking at sources from the daemons codexes as well |
| 17:29.48 | Hachiman | Huh, I remember hearing it from somewhere |
| 17:30.10 | Quark8_ | Hello Charles. |
| 17:30.37 | AdmiralPanda | there is a note that she waits until he's deep in his work so she can do it in secret |
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| 18:04.38 | Quark8_ | Damnit. |
| 18:07.00 | Tek0516 | O.o |
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| 18:09.14 | Quark8_ | I give up. |
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| 18:15.06 | OluapPlayer | spi |
| 18:15.15 | Quark8 | Hello Xho. |
| 18:15.19 | Xho | eee |
| 18:15.45 | Xho | OluapPlayer: A WILD HACHI APPEARS ON OLUAP'S YOUTUBE |
| 18:15.57 | OluapPlayer | dunt kno wat makes u think dat |
| 18:16.11 | Xho | u let's playin wit friend |
| 18:16.15 | Xho | 9/10 gun be hachi |
| 18:16.30 | OluapPlayer | But yes it's Hachi |
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| 18:17.39 | Hachiman | Fuck sake |
| 18:17.47 | Xho | I'd say I'd like to join you as well but we have no games in common |
| 18:17.55 | Xho | cus u suk |
| 18:18.28 | OluapPlayer | Well Hachi isn't gonna play that often. It's gonna be him watching me play |
| 18:19.13 | Xho | Get Wolfenstein :v |
| 18:20.10 | Xho | And wait for better equipment I say |
| 18:20.35 | Hachiman | Oh we talking about Oluap becoming the next PewDiePie |
| 18:20.43 | OluapPlayer | WHAT'S UP #BROS |
| 18:21.29 | Xho | Pretty much |
| 18:21.34 | Xho | *NIGGOS |
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| 18:22.31 | Hachiman | If there's any advice I would use for doing LPs is make sure that you have enough editing involved to highlight good parts and make it your own |
| 18:24.18 | Monet | I think you have a good chance. |
| 18:24.37 | Xho | http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/424/436/3af.gif OluapPlayer, 2016 |
| 18:24.41 | Monet | I'd also suggest trying to play the latest games or the cult hits. |
| 18:24.53 | OluapPlayer | Having to wait for a new mic means we'll not be able to start for the next couple of months |
| 18:25.11 | Xho | Meh it's worth the weight |
| 18:25.16 | Xho | You can plan in the meantime |
| 18:25.25 | OluapPlayer | I intend to start with Super Mario World |
| 18:25.31 | OluapPlayer | First game ever played, first series |
| 18:27.52 | Monet | And yeah be your own guy. |
| 18:28.11 | Xho | Play ARK on hardest difficulty :v |
| 18:28.14 | Monet | Pewds is just...the guy's unstoppable. |
| 18:28.20 | Xho | Why am I using the :v face all of a sudden |
| 18:29.02 | Hachiman | :> |
| 18:29.05 | Hachiman | No I meant |
| 18:29.07 | Xho | So someone on my Facebook likes gorillas |
| 18:29.07 | Hachiman | |> |
| 18:29.16 | OluapPlayer | expand dong etc |
| 18:29.17 | Hachiman | #DICKSOUT4HARAMBE |
| 18:29.21 | Xho | Unwittingly posted a Harambe meme |
| 18:31.29 | AdmiralPanda | the trick is to cheat the system into prioritising your content in multiple continents, like Pewds |
| 18:31.59 | Monet | Oluap does have a location advantage there, living in Brazil |
| 18:32.03 | Xho | Guy is earning like $2 million a year, he can afford YOUTUBE CAPITALISM |
| 18:32.25 | OluapPlayer | I don't see how that's an advantage. LPs are an english-speaker thing |
| 18:33.03 | Monet | OluapPlayer: You're outside the oversaturated US LPer markert. |
| 18:33.04 | AdmiralPanda | Oluap: Youtube prioritises content based on region |
| 18:33.29 | AdmiralPanda | basically, Pewds had an advantage because his content was prioritised both in Europe and in America |
| 18:33.58 | Monet | Although there are a lot of English-speakers in Europe |
| 18:35.22 | Hachiman | So how could Oluap prioritise his content |
| 18:35.47 | AdmiralPanda | Hachiman: it's youtube search nonsensery, it's not something you actually do |
| 18:36.23 | AdmiralPanda | basically, among other things youtube recommends content based on your region, so americans get more american content than non-american |
| 18:36.50 | Hachiman | Gonna be a shame for Oluap then because Brasil is full of PC illiterate people |
| 18:36.55 | AdmiralPanda | since Pewds started his account in Europe and then moved to America, his content was essentially kinda both |
| 18:36.56 | OluapPlayer | If it helps anything, I already have a channel with 14,000 subs |
| 18:36.58 | Hachiman | Or people who cannot afford PCs |
| 18:37.17 | AdmiralPanda | OluapPlayer: That does help significantly, yeah |
| 18:37.26 | Monet | OluapPLayer: That helps a -lot-. |
| 18:37.43 | Monet | Let those people know in advance about LPs and streams |
| 18:37.48 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: Keep in mind your number will probably go down a bit since a number of them will likely unsubscribe due to non-Gmod content |
| 18:37.58 | OluapPlayer | Of course |
| 18:37.58 | Xho | Because dumbasses |
| 18:38.07 | Hachiman | Well, no, I can see the reason |
| 18:38.08 | Xho | Gmod fanbase is as cancerous as the rest of them |
| 18:38.37 | OluapPlayer | Actually I'm giving them the chance to vote if they want the change or not |
| 18:38.44 | OluapPlayer | I made a video warning the subs of the change |
| 18:38.52 | OluapPlayer | Majority seems to be okay with it so far |
| 18:39.00 | Hachiman | I still think you should make another channel just in case you get voted no |
| 18:39.08 | Xho | OluapPlaysA |
| 18:39.16 | OluapPlayer | Nah |
| 18:39.18 | OluapPlayer | OluapLetsPlayer |
| 18:39.37 | Xho | reylapstelpaulo |
| 18:39.44 | Xho | Hey look I made a SporeWiki alien name |
| 18:39.51 | OluapPlayer | if I did make a new channel i'd have to add Hachi's name to it somehow |
| 18:39.58 | Xho | Rabbit Inc. |
| 18:40.25 | Hachiman | I mean, I'm still looking to start up a channel myself |
| 18:40.43 | Hachiman | Just need to decide on something that isn't LPs |
| 18:41.02 | Xho | Gmod videos |
| 18:41.04 | Xho | Please don't |
| 18:41.05 | Hachiman | non |
| 18:41.08 | Xho | Save yourself from that place |
| 18:41.22 | Hachiman | Also, I don't subscribe to a LPer to watch them do film reviews or something that I didn't subscribe to them for so I can understand why people would unsubscribe from Oluap if he decides to do LPs when they subscribed for Gmod |
| 18:41.39 | OluapPlayer | Well yeah i'd probably do the same |
| 18:41.56 | OluapPlayer | If they leave then well, nothing I can do about it |
| 18:42.10 | Xho | Fair enough |
| 18:42.11 | Hachiman | The content is still there |
| 18:42.11 | Hachiman | Also it's not like you're deleting your old stuff |
| 18:42.19 | Xho | Still though the GMod fanbase is dreadful |
| 18:42.51 | Xho | The animators themselves are mostly all weird, you'd have to be to make GMod videos in the first place |
| 18:45.15 | OluapPlayer | So far there's 99 votes in favor and 37 against |
| 18:45.25 | Xho | wher is dis gay poll |
| 18:45.35 | OluapPlayer | lern 2 read u illiterate dingus |
| 18:45.36 | Hachiman | http://www.strawpoll.me/10904779/r |
| 18:45.44 | Hachiman | Oh wait that's results |
| 18:46.02 | OluapPlayer | Remove the /r for the poll |
| 18:46.11 | Hachiman | remove reddit |
| 18:46.18 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 18:48.44 | OluapPlayer | That being said I don't believe most of those 14,000 subs are still active. In the times where I did upload a new Gmod video, I'd only get around 3,000 videos in a month |
| 18:49.22 | Xho | Still 2,500 more than I get a month lel |
| 18:49.33 | Xho | That being said my newest video's had 510 in 2 weeks |
| 18:49.34 | OluapPlayer | 2 videos I released 11 months ago only for 8,000 views each |
| 18:49.36 | Hachiman | git gud |
| 18:49.43 | Monet | Still good |
| 18:49.52 | Xho | GMod's a dead form anyway |
| 18:49.53 | Xho | Or dying |
| 18:50.25 | Xho | Everyone's moved SFM |
| 18:50.26 | Xho | to |
| 18:50.27 | Xho | SFM |
| 18:50.29 | Xho | there we go |
| 18:50.43 | Xho | That's too much of a learning curve for me to be patient about it |
| 18:51.18 | Hachiman | Looks good when you can pull it off though |
| 18:51.23 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 18:51.27 | Xho | Indeed |
| 18:51.31 | Xho | cba for that |
| 18:51.37 | OluapPlayer | 2hard |
| 18:51.54 | Xho | Gmod's good enough because the unrealistic discrepancies are expected |
| 18:52.16 | Xho | I just don't like my subs very much |
| 18:52.24 | Xho | Bigger numbers are good but the numbers have personalities |
| 18:53.51 | Hachiman | Maybe I should do the latest hip thing and make Dark Souls meme videos |
| 18:54.06 | OluapPlayer | Sure but if you do that we'll have to stop talking |
| 18:54.06 | Hachiman | Maybe I should do the latest hip thing and make Dark Souls meme videos |
| 18:54.09 | Hachiman | LEGEND NEVER DIES, WHAT RINGS YOU GOT BITCH, DS3 GIANTDAD BUILD |
| 18:54.40 | Xho | Hachimeme |
| 18:54.44 | Xho | pls die |
| 18:54.54 | Hachiman | Nothing I do would ever be as bad as when that one guy killed invaders in DS3 with an estoc while fucking blindfolded |
| 18:55.02 | Hachiman | *who killed |
| 18:55.41 | Hachiman | Oh wait no, my English is fucked |
| 18:55.51 | Xho | Yes |
| 18:58.32 | Xho | Right so |
| 18:58.39 | Xho | Gimme a SporeWiki species to ZBrush |
| 18:58.41 | Xho | I'm bored |
| 18:58.55 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm |
| 18:59.14 | Hachiman | Kalcedia |
| 18:59.25 | Hachiman | Or a succubus |
| 18:59.36 | OluapPlayer | No succ |
| 18:59.42 | Hachiman | succ is dead |
| 19:00.01 | OluapPlayer | If Xho made a succubus he'd make them look like terrifying hags probably hur |
| 19:00.23 | AdmiralPanda | I vote dvottie |
| 19:00.53 | OluapPlayer | As for the question |
| 19:00.55 | OluapPlayer | Don't know actually |
| 19:01.01 | Ghel | You might as well do a classic SporeWiki species. Like Grimbolsaurian, Libertus, Rambo, or Radeon. Or, yes, dvottie. |
| 19:01.16 | Ghel | After all, you've already done Loron. |
| 19:01.24 | Hachiman | Also, just so you all know, I once considered making a tanuki race for the Fantasyverse so make of that what you will and figure out why I decided against it hur |
| 19:01.29 | Xho | Well I can redo the Loron |
| 19:01.32 | Xho | I'm on a remake spree atm |
| 19:01.39 | Xho | Hm |
| 19:02.15 | Xho | Tempted to do a Grimbolsaurian |
| 19:02.41 | AdmiralPanda | make of it what I will: Hachi wanted an excuse to put balls on something. why decided against it: putting balls on something |
| 19:02.47 | Xho | Although their Spore models are tricky to replicate in ZBrush without it looking more silly than it is |
| 19:02.56 | Hachiman | Not just balls |
| 19:03.01 | Hachiman | Massive balls |
| 19:03.40 | AdmiralPanda | I remember when my japanese friend saw Mario's tanuki suit the first thing he said was "where are the massive balls?" |
| 19:03.43 | Xho | I was tempted to do a Vi'Navitum as well but the details are mad |
| 19:03.52 | Ghel | Libertus and Rambo would have feathers, so I don't know how difficult that would be for you to make. |
| 19:03.56 | Xho | Oh god a tanuki I remember these now |
| 19:04.11 | Xho | I saw them when I was in Japan and I stared at a tanuki for a few minutes wondering why |
| 19:04.45 | Xho | The statue that is |
| 19:05.19 | Xho | Hm so |
| 19:05.54 | Hachiman | There's also a yokai that I recall which essentially has no face, crawls around backwards on its hands and legs, and has terrorises people by showing them a giant eyeball that resides in its ass |
| 19:06.01 | DrodoEmpire | I'd say do a Drodo, but they're mammalian and have fur so I dunno how easy that'd be to be honest |
| 19:06.09 | Hachiman | =has |
| 19:06.12 | Hachiman | -=has |
| 19:06.32 | Hachiman | Also the fact that Drodo have no model |
| 19:06.38 | Xho | That too |
| 19:06.55 | Monet | They do. |
| 19:07.22 | DrodoEmpire | I mean they sorta do (you made one Hachi) and a few rough sketches and doodles I did are available if needed, but yeah |
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| 19:09.43 | Xho | Feathers aren't that hard based on fiber generation |
| 19:09.55 | Xho | Would be hard if I had to actively sculpt them |
| 19:09.57 | Xho | And ridiculous |
| 19:10.02 | Xho | Fur is easy as well in that respect |
| 19:10.45 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 19:11.44 | Xho | Ah screw it I'll just make the Vi'Navitum |
| 19:11.45 | OluapPlayer | Cyrannian is gone so I'm gonna do the featured article polls in his place |
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| 19:12.43 | OluapPlayer | Just gotta remember how to do that, it's been a while |
| 19:12.48 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 19:13.17 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 19:13.38 | Xho | Actually I can't be bothered to do that either atm |
| 19:13.46 | Xho | I'm in a bad mood for no reason |
| 19:14.01 | OluapPlayer | eat a skittles |
| 19:14.09 | Xho | Snickers you mean right |
| 19:14.24 | Xho | I'm allergic to nuts u dunce |
| 19:14.30 | OluapPlayer | All starts with S |
| 19:14.44 | AdmiralPanda | tell ur immune system to get its shit in line |
| 19:14.52 | Xho | I wish |
| 19:16.32 | OluapPlayer | Anyone got any last minute nominations? |
| 19:19.21 | DrodoEmpire | For featured fiction? |
| 19:19.28 | OluapPlayer | For all four categories |
| 19:19.38 | DrodoEmpire | right right |
| 19:19.52 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo Empire for fiction nation |
| 19:20.12 | OluapPlayer | drodoempire says drodo empire |
| 19:20.22 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 19:20.38 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh actually nvm, I dunno |
| 19:20.43 | OluapPlayer | Also they already got featured |
| 19:20.47 | OluapPlayer | A year and a month ago |
| 19:20.59 | DrodoEmpire | Right, no repeats |
| 19:24.24 | OluapPlayer | u people not bein very cooperative |
| 19:24.34 | OluapPlayer | I'll have to look through the recent changes for nominations |
| 19:25.41 | Charles_Bot | OluapPlayer is the X6 already on there? |
| 19:25.51 | Charles_Bot | I also nominated Sanctarium |
| 19:25.51 | OluapPlayer | Yes you nominated them yesterday |
| 19:25.55 | Charles_Bot | Got it |
| 19:26.06 | OluapPlayer | No one has done any nominations for creatures |
| 19:30.24 | Hachiman | Hm |
| 19:30.36 | Hachiman | See this is why we need Jo to do Fiction Reading Day |
| 19:30.59 | OluapPlayer | Jo's gone for another week and a half |
| 19:31.22 | Hachiman | Top fuck |
| 19:35.09 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:Featured_Fiction_-_August_2016 |
| 19:35.12 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:Featured_Captain_-_August_2016 |
| 19:35.14 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:Featured_Creature_-_August_2016 |
| 19:35.18 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:Featured_Story_-_August_2016 |
| 19:35.21 | OluapPlayer | This'll have to do |
| 19:39.37 | Hachiman | Nice |
| 20:00.58 | OluapPlayer | Monet: You were mentioning aluminum being valuable yesterday, I found found out it's actually one of the rarest and most valuable metals in DF |
| 20:01.04 | OluapPlayer | *just found |
| 20:02.25 | Monet | Indeed. |
| 20:02.36 | OluapPlayer | Rare because it can only be found in native aluminum ores, and it's tied with platinum as the second most valuable metal after Adamantine |
| 20:03.33 | Monet | It's long been valuable because it's almost impossible to separate in a furnace. |
| 20:04.23 | OluapPlayer | Native aluminum is rather difficult to come across compared to other ores |
| 20:05.11 | OluapPlayer | Actually I don't believe I've ever found it in my games |
| 20:06.46 | Monet | I've found native platinum once or twice |
| 20:07.48 | OluapPlayer | Native platinum is fairly common as far as my games have gone. But usually I get drowned in gold and silver nuggets |
| 20:09.36 | OluapPlayer | Silver is interesting in DF because it's actually the best metal in the game for blunt weapons |
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| 20:10.13 | OluapPlayer | Silver is the heaviest of all weapon-grade metals and blunt weapon power is dependent on weight |
| 20:10.29 | OluapPlayer | At the size time it's absolute ass for edged weapons |
| 20:11.25 | Tybusen | Hello |
| 20:11.59 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 20:12.01 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 20:26.17 | Xho | Gonna attempt a full on Kicath body |
| 20:40.23 | Xho | Monet: So the initial Kicath full body model starts almost on exactly 1 million polys |
| 20:40.52 | Xho | 1,000,448 to be precise |
| 20:42.06 | The_Randomness | O_o |
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| 20:42.49 | Xho | 1 million poly model's quite standard |
| 20:42.53 | Xho | Not for games of couse |
| 20:42.55 | Xho | course |
| 20:42.59 | The_Randomness | yeah |
| 20:43.17 | Xho | There are tools which could remesh this into a low poly model while retaining the visual features of the model |
| 20:51.46 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: I guess it makes sense |
| 20:51.55 | OluapPlayer | Eh? |
| 20:52.09 | Imperios | That aluminum is rare |
| 20:52.18 | Imperios | You need electricity to smelt it |
| 20:52.24 | OluapPlayer | Ah |
| 20:52.42 | Imperios | Does it have any actual use though? |
| 20:53.49 | OluapPlayer | In DF? You can make furniture out of it |
| 20:54.00 | OluapPlayer | Same as any metal |
| 20:54.36 | Imperios | Also hi Tybusen |
| 20:54.52 | Tybusen | Hi |
| 20:55.17 | OluapPlayer | Statues, chests, cabinets, doors, weapon racks, armor stands, coffins |
| 20:55.19 | OluapPlayer | Among other things |
| 21:10.43 | Xho | Well ZBrush didn't like that very much |
| 21:11.33 | OluapPlayer | Crash? |
| 21:11.49 | Xho | Yeah |
| 21:12.02 | Xho | The amount of polys I put into it made it go derp |
| 21:12.14 | Xho | I saved an earlier version of it so I'll go back to it tomorrow |
| 21:17.42 | Imperios | Charles_Bot Monet: Would you say it would make sense for Sanctuarium to mint its own currency for foreign trade, or use some other important Plazithian one? |
| 21:17.47 | Imperios | Like the gilo |
| 21:18.23 | Charles_Bot | Gilo is ded |
| 21:18.31 | Charles_Bot | Has been for years |
| 21:18.46 | Charles_Bot | Crashed in 2802 |
| 21:18.49 | The_Randomness | f |
| 21:19.14 | Imperios | *have used then |
| 21:19.22 | Charles_Bot | Sorry Random |
| 21:19.27 | Charles_Bot | Just got back from the office |
| 21:19.30 | The_Randomness | No worries |
| 21:19.40 | Charles_Bot | Imperios pinged me and I saw his message first |
| 21:19.42 | Imperios | Thought it was reconstituted after the crash |
| 21:20.18 | Charles_Bot | Nah, Human Superstate tried to create post scarcity in formerly capitalist states, which meant abolishing currency entirely |
| 21:20.20 | Charles_Bot | It didn't work |
| 21:20.32 | Charles_Bot | So now the dominant currency is the Franc |
| 21:21.29 | Charles_Bot | And yes, it would make sense; it helps trade, given that you will always have the same exchange rate as the nation whose currency you are using |
| 21:21.50 | Charles_Bot | And thus trade and investment between those two countries are seen as a safe bet |
| 21:22.33 | Charles_Bot | Another advantage has to do with credibility. Fiat currencies have nothing backing them except 1) the force of law and 2) the economy that uses them. |
| 21:23.27 | Charles_Bot | They are an assurance that you will be able to exchange a piece of paper for a given amount of commodities in a country and be taken seriously. |
| 21:24.53 | Charles_Bot | So if you're having problems with your own currency, such as rampant counterfeiting, weak institutions leading to pressures to just keep printing money, or just have a weak economy, using another currency might help. |
| 21:25.05 | Charles_Bot | Ecuador, for example, uses the American Dollar |
| 21:25.12 | Charles_Bot | And many places use it unofficially |
| 21:25.31 | Charles_Bot | Imperios I hope that helps? |
| 21:26.47 | Imperios | Right |
| 21:27.27 | Imperios | It wouldn't exactly make sense for Sanctuarium to use a foreign currency for the sake of stability since it is quite stable on its own, but they could rely on it to make transactions easier |
| 21:29.14 | Charles_Bot | Yeah, it would definitely lead to lots of trade with the nation whose currency they pick |
| 21:29.48 | Charles_Bot | The Franc block is pretty big, encompassing most of humanity and the rich Neutrality Zone in the Quadrants |
| 21:29.50 | Xho | "How many Tekken characters can you name?" bitch i am 40% tekken |
| 21:32.35 | Xho | Hachiman: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/tekken/images/b/bb/Gigas_CG.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150426153527&path-prefix=en When did this guy happen |
| 21:32.48 | Hachiman | Jesus what |
| 21:34.25 | Imperios | Could mint their own currency but with a fixed exchange rate perhaps? |
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| 21:34.43 | Primisback | moremoney |
| 21:34.50 | Primisback | gets 1,000,000 sporebucks |
| 21:35.51 | Primisback | k |
| 21:36.30 | Charles_Bot | Imperios: That could work, definitely |
| 21:36.51 | Primisback | i'm terraforming some planet |
| 21:37.04 | Imperios | Primisback: You do not comprehend just how fitting for the conversation your comment was |
| 21:37.17 | Primisback | Can you copy it? |
| 21:37.30 | Primisback | Like |
| 21:37.39 | Primisback | where the moment starts |
| 21:37.43 | Primisback | idk if it'll be a moment |
| 21:37.51 | Tybusen | Does the "freedom" cheat not work for buildings |
| 21:37.51 | Primisback | but i'd like to see it |
| 21:37.55 | Primisback | idk |
| 21:37.59 | Tybusen | Because if so I'll be a little salty |
| 21:38.00 | Primisback | never tried @ty |
| 21:38.12 | Primisback | it might, it might not |
| 21:38.36 | Tybusen | It keeps giving me this "only for the non-game editors" bullshit |
| 21:39.19 | Primisback | same thing with adventures tho |
| 21:39.27 | Primisback | it doesnt work with adventures ;~; |
| 21:39.37 | Primisback | ~scold maxis |
| 21:39.37 | infobot | yells bad maxis and slaps his/her hands with a ruler |
| 21:40.28 | Tybusen | I'm trying to make buildings to take some pictures for planets but I've hit a snag here |
| 21:41.20 | Tybusen | I just want to add some more windows to this house but apparently that's just too much |
| 21:42.20 | Primisback | Imperios |
| 21:42.27 | Primisback | What was the conversation about? |
| 21:45.27 | Primisback | dammit, i forgot what planet i was terraforming |
| 21:45.42 | *** join/#sporewiki Quark8 (4257427b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.87.66.123) |
| 21:45.46 | Primisback | Hi |
| 21:45.56 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 21:51.14 | Primisback | i'm chasing my citizens with fountains |
| 21:51.18 | Imperios | We talked about currency |
| 21:51.19 | Primisback | fucking FOUNTAINS |
| 21:51.30 | Primisback | ok @imperios |
| 21:51.33 | Primisback | And |
| 21:51.34 | Primisback | ? |
| 21:52.05 | Primisback | now with a lamp |
| 21:52.15 | The_Randomness | cool story bro |
| 21:52.42 | Primisback | #whatthefuckmaxis |
| 21:54.25 | Xho | Maxis is dead get over it |
| 21:54.36 | Primisback | ~kill Xho |
| 21:54.36 | infobot | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged anti-neutrino gun at Xho |
| 21:54.41 | Primisback | Xho is dead get over it |
| 21:54.48 | Primisback | :trollface: |
| 21:54.56 | Xho | Wow good joke 10/10 I'm going somewhere else for a while |
| 21:55.12 | Primisback | to irc moment hell? |
| 21:55.20 | Primisback | :trollface2: |
| 21:55.21 | The_Randomness | ... |
| 21:55.40 | Xho | More like to another set of sites to drown out the inanity of this conversation |
| 21:55.52 | Primisback | k |
| 21:55.58 | The_Randomness | I don't have time for this right now |
| 21:56.07 | Primisback | SHIT RAIDERS |
| 21:56.09 | Primisback | brb |
| 21:56.11 | The_Randomness | But could you please not behave like this? |
| 21:56.34 | Primisback | k |
| 21:57.55 | Primisback | back |
| 21:58.05 | Hachiman | He's been told before |
| 21:58.07 | Hachiman | You can ban him |
| 21:58.22 | Hachiman | And he's been banned for this before as well so |
| 21:58.58 | Primisback | Hachi |
| 21:59.22 | The_Randomness | I understand this, Hachi |
| 21:59.54 | The_Randomness | anyway, gotta go |
| 21:59.59 | Primisback | cya |
| 22:00.01 | Primisback | o/ |
| 22:00.13 | Primisback | also brb again, dealing with pirates |
| 22:00.27 | Primisback | nvm |
| 22:00.42 | Primisback | they stopped before i even exited to the galaxy |
| 22:01.31 | Hachiman | If Jo was here I'm sure she'd have kicked or banned you right about now |
| 22:01.36 | Hachiman | You have been warned multiple times |
| 22:01.43 | Xho | Technobliterator: live pls |
| 22:04.57 | Primisback | Hachi |
| 22:05.13 | Hachiman | What/ |
| 22:05.14 | Hachiman | ? |
| 22:05.15 | Primisback | I've calmed down, I was just feeling a bit stimmy |
| 22:05.20 | Primisback | stimulated |
| 22:05.25 | Hachiman | No you do this every time |
| 22:05.37 | Hachiman | We can't keep making exceptions |
| 22:08.09 | Primisback | Hachi |
| 22:08.13 | Primisback | I'll stop |
| 22:08.41 | OluapPlayer | You best. You will not be warned again |
| 22:09.12 | Primisback | Ok |
| 22:09.30 | Primisback | so basically, don't be a jerk or anything? |
| 22:10.17 | OluapPlayer | Stop annoying people |
| 22:11.12 | Primisback | ok |
| 22:11.26 | Primisback | what might annoy people? |
| 22:11.42 | Primisback | ik spamming is one, over-randomness is another |
| 22:12.56 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://i.imgur.com/PG9YU7i.png Found a poorly made version of it, figured out I'd make a bettter-looking version because the idea itself is brilliant despite being banal |
| 22:13.08 | Imperios | Monet too may take a look |
| 22:13.57 | *** join/#sporewiki OluapPlayer_ (b164ff46@gateway/web/freenode/ip.177.100.255.70) |
| 22:13.57 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o OluapPlayer_] by ChanServ |
| 22:14.45 | Hachiman | dun geddit |
| 22:16.16 | Imperios | Take a look at the map |
| 22:20.39 | Monet | It's Syria. I'm guessing Chaos - ISIL |
| 22:21.54 | Imperios | Caharles |
| 22:22.01 | Imperios | Monet: Is the Orion League still a thing? |
| 22:22.22 | Monet | Imperios: It's not. |
| 22:22.43 | Tybusen | Orion League was destroyed when the DCP took over |
| 22:22.46 | Monet | Members of the Orion League, after leaving the Human SUperstate joined the Grand Commonwealth of SOvereign States |
| 22:23.07 | Imperios | Right so there are no large human alliances left then |
| 22:23.12 | Imperios | Other than the ATR and Baguetteland |
| 22:24.00 | Tybusen | Beretland is more empire than alliance |
| 22:24.23 | Imperios | Well yeah I mean any large human superpowers |
| 22:24.33 | Imperios | I'll just write "former Human Superstate nations" |
| 22:24.49 | Imperios | Monet: What could Sanctuarium important aside from raw materials and maybe exotic food? |
| 22:24.53 | Xho | http://www.deviantart.com/art/Spore-Creature-Raikou-Pokemon-625826079 |
| 22:24.54 | Tybusen | Yeah, ATR and France are the only two major Human powers left |
| 22:25.25 | OluapPlayer_ | Impressove |
| 22:25.28 | OluapPlayer_ | impressive even |
| 22:25.59 | Imperios | Xho: You reminded me, my mother keeps saying that Pokemon Go is a surveillance program of the US government |
| 22:26.07 | Xho | Probably is |
| 22:27.06 | Tybusen | Can't spell Pokemon Go without at least one letter from NSA |
| 22:29.10 | Imperios | https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/uud5f1ku3qsfli6ogytl.png ohgod |
| 22:29.22 | Xho | Looking at all the Pokemon I'd have to say my favourite is, and rather unsurprisingly so, Yveltal |
| 22:30.13 | Tybusen | Naturally Xho likes the Pokemon whose power revolves around killing people |
| 22:30.21 | Xho | yes |
| 22:30.44 | OluapPlayer_ | you are now Yho |
| 22:31.00 | Imperios | My mother generally dislikes Pokemon vehemently for some reason |
| 22:31.06 | Imperios | She forbid me to watch it as a kid |
| 22:31.08 | Xho | WESTERN DEVILS |
| 22:31.10 | Xho | OR EASTERN |
| 22:31.14 | Xho | Japanese |
| 22:31.16 | Xho | There we go |
| 22:31.32 | OluapPlayer_ | There are people calling Pokemon Go demonic |
| 22:31.47 | OluapPlayer_ | Because technological impairment will forever be a thing |
| 22:32.03 | Tybusen | Looks like it's 1997 again |
| 22:32.06 | Imperios | OluapPlayer_: The Russian Orthodox Church has explicitly banned searching for Pokemon in their churches |
| 22:32.15 | Imperios | It is now possible to get into prison for Pokemons |
| 22:32.19 | Imperios | *Pokemons |
| 22:32.30 | OluapPlayer_ | I'm subbed to a guy who made a video commenting on this |
| 22:32.40 | OluapPlayer_ | He had a recording of a guy calling Pokemon "cybernetic demons" |
| 22:32.54 | OluapPlayer_ | We live in Doom now, Pokemon are Cyberdemons |
| 22:32.54 | Xho | http://static.zerochan.net/Yveltal.full.1582039.jpg Well this is pretty cool |
| 22:33.28 | Xho | Although I thought Yveltal was a bird |
| 22:33.34 | OluapPlayer_ | It is |
| 22:33.38 | OluapPlayer_ | It has no teeth |
| 22:33.41 | Xho | y does this have teeth den |
| 22:33.49 | OluapPlayer_ | To make it look evil dur |
| 22:33.58 | Xho | birds are generally evil tho |
| 22:33.59 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Humanity develops teleportation, ends up releasing Pokemons upon the world |
| 22:34.38 | OluapPlayer_ | Canonically speaking there are no evil Pokémon. Yveltal is destructive because it's essentially a representation of death |
| 22:34.44 | OluapPlayer_ | Not because it's actively malevolent |
| 22:35.10 | Xho | Well it still fits my preferences |
| 22:35.26 | Xho | I'm good at picking out dark things yeh |
| 22:35.34 | OluapPlayer_ | I guess you'd go either for a Dark or a Ghost-tyle |
| 22:35.43 | Tybusen | I mean, if you think about it, Yveltal is more or less a Pokemon version of the Xhodocto |
| 22:35.47 | OluapPlayer_ | Yveltal is Dark/Flying |
| 22:36.05 | Xho | Giratina's pretty cool as well |
| 22:36.14 | Xho | ghost dergon |
| 22:36.20 | OluapPlayer_ | Giratina is the god of antimatter |
| 22:36.30 | Xho | "god of no" |
| 22:37.31 | Xho | Not so sure about Darkrai though |
| 22:37.48 | OluapPlayer_ | Darkrai is the more-or-less god of nightmares |
| 22:37.52 | Tybusen | Darkrai is a nightmare pokemon |
| 22:38.52 | Xho | "Poochyena" |
| 22:38.59 | Xho | I'm going back to my dark gods thnx bye |
| 22:39.02 | OluapPlayer_ | hur |
| 22:39.12 | Xho | Cute tho |
| 22:39.20 | Tybusen | Are you telling me that you don't find Poochyena to be the personification of evil itself |
| 22:39.35 | OluapPlayer_ | Yes, it is evil as it uses Growl at you 5000 times |
| 22:40.19 | Xho | >Mega Gyrados |
| 22:40.22 | Tybusen | Though actually the Dark type is actually called the "Evil" type in Japanese |
| 22:40.24 | Xho | To my knowledge, this is not a good thing |
| 22:40.53 | OluapPlayer_ | afaik Mega Gyarados isn't that big of a deal |
| 22:41.32 | Xho | Tell you one thing that freaks me out |
| 22:41.41 | Xho | MissingNo |
| 22:41.51 | Xho | There's something inherently freaky about it |
| 22:42.11 | OluapPlayer_ | u wimpi |
| 22:42.30 | Tybusen | Well I mean you do kinda have to break the world a little bit to find it |
| 22:43.05 | Hachiman | https://thumbs.gfycat.com/UncommonUncommonHapuku-size_restricted.gif |
| 22:43.13 | Tybusen | Though MissingNo is pretty harmless as far as glitch Pokes go |
| 22:43.21 | OluapPlayer_ | What a jerk |
| 22:43.49 | Tybusen | I actually had a wild Dragonite show up on the "nearby Pokemon" list once, I shit you not |
| 22:44.16 | Xho | Aerodactyl |
| 22:44.19 | Xho | Brings back bad memories |
| 22:44.51 | OluapPlayer_ | y dis |
| 22:44.56 | OluapPlayer_ | It's just a wyvern |
| 22:45.05 | Xho | Back in preschool when I was like 4 years old we were playing pretend Pokemon, one guy pretends to be Aerodactyl and throws me about |
| 22:45.15 | OluapPlayer_ | wow |
| 22:45.20 | Xho | I fall on the floor and I end up having half the skin on my face shaved off from the tarmac |
| 22:45.21 | Xho | good times |
| 22:45.31 | OluapPlayer_ | Well I'll let you know Mega Aerodactyl is a thing then |
| 22:45.36 | Xho | ABSOLUTE NO |
| 22:45.44 | OluapPlayer_ | It's got a retarded chin spike |
| 22:46.04 | Xho | So it does |
| 22:46.18 | Xho | >Mega Mewtwo |
| 22:46.20 | Xho | why |
| 22:46.27 | OluapPlayer_ | Not even the strongest Mega |
| 22:46.36 | OluapPlayer_ | That title belongs to Mega Rayquaza |
| 22:47.24 | Xho | op pls nerf |
| 22:47.43 | OluapPlayer_ | It's so OP, competitive players banned it from their "everything goes" games |
| 22:47.56 | Xho | Oh great now I get reminded of that video where BLU Nnnngh Sniper breaks a Rayquaza |
| 22:47.59 | OluapPlayer_ | Everything goes, except THAT one |
| 22:48.10 | OluapPlayer_ | dat old school |
| 22:48.19 | Tybusen | Mega Rayquaza got banned even from Anything Goes? |
| 22:48.23 | Xho | the xho remembers |
| 22:48.29 | Imperios | Charles_Bot: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Sanctuarium#Economy There we go, do you think all that makes sense? |
| 22:48.35 | Imperios | Monet may als otake a look |
| 22:48.42 | Tybusen | I thought they made the AG tier precisely because M-Rayquaza was too powerful for Ubers |
| 22:49.02 | OluapPlayer_ | Ubers was everything goes |
| 22:49.04 | Monet | 1 minute |
| 22:49.12 | OluapPlayer_ | They made a new AG above Ubers which includes Mega Fug |
| 22:49.22 | OluapPlayer_ | Literally got banned from Ubers |
| 22:49.45 | Tybusen | Ah ok |
| 22:50.00 | Tybusen | I got confused because in Ubers they still have some rules for the sake of sanity |
| 22:50.10 | Tybusen | AG was where they just threw out every standard rule they had |
| 22:50.12 | Xho | Imperios: Paclernos doesn't really have that much of an economic output |
| 22:50.36 | Imperios | Doesn't it have all these cyberpunk towers |
| 22:50.41 | Tybusen | Like I'm pretty sure shit like Double Team is still banned in Ubers |
| 22:50.44 | OluapPlayer_ | Yeah and they created that because of Mega Quayquay |
| 22:50.48 | Imperios | I thought they were used for something |
| 22:50.50 | Xho | The Kicath have 718,000 worlds like it hur |
| 22:50.52 | Imperios | productive tht is |
| 22:51.04 | Imperios | rite so gimme another big relevant world in the Milky Way |
| 22:51.13 | Xho | There aren't any from the Kicath |
| 22:51.31 | Tybusen | Imperios: What about Mirenton? |
| 22:51.37 | Imperios | Already mentioned |
| 22:51.45 | OluapPlayer_ | http://i.imgur.com/vaaTaY1.jpg when you're so strong you break the metagame |
| 22:51.46 | Xho | Anatezc-ji 0 and Namuezan are their most economically powerful sites and they're not in the Milky Way |
| 22:52.10 | Tybusen | Paris? |
| 22:53.13 | Imperios | I do not mention it on the grounds of its silly name hur |
| 22:53.59 | Tybusen | I can't really think of any other major worlds in the Milky Way |
| 22:54.02 | Xho | "get rekt humans" - Radeon, 2815 |
| 22:54.13 | Imperios | Also I am not sure if I should refer to Sanctuarium as a planet |
| 22:54.15 | Tybusen | A surprisingly small number of modern powers are based in the Milky Way now |
| 22:54.15 | Imperios | It is a satellite |
| 22:54.16 | OluapPlayer_ | milk way old and busted haw haw |
| 22:54.23 | Imperios | But saying "moon" feels weird |
| 22:54.36 | Xho | New Draka LOL NO THAT'S IN BOREALIS |
| 22:54.42 | Tybusen | Astronomically you probably can't call it a planet |
| 22:54.46 | Tybusen | You could call it a "world" |
| 22:55.38 | Tybusen | As far as I can remember, the only major powers who are centered in the Milky Way now are France and the DCP |
| 22:55.54 | Xho | Kicath u dum |
| 22:56.18 | Tybusen | Yeah but is the Kicath economic core in the Milky Way? |
| 22:56.34 | Xho | Really I have no clue |
| 22:56.34 | OluapPlayer_ | Kicath packed their things and moved to Andromeda |
| 22:56.36 | OluapPlayer_ | abandund me |
| 22:56.55 | Xho | The Kicath have equal standing in both the Milky Way and Andromeda territory wise |
| 22:57.08 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Sanctuarium And that is when I feel despair |
| 22:57.14 | Imperios | The page is already gigantic |
| 22:57.22 | Imperios | Yet the biggest section is still not done |
| 22:57.24 | Imperios | And I want to add more |
| 22:57.26 | Imperios | DAMN YOU |
| 22:57.35 | Xho | Actually they have more territories in Mirus and Milky Way than they do in Andromeda |
| 22:57.50 | OluapPlayer_ | What an incredibly dumb thing to whine about |
| 22:57.56 | OluapPlayer_ | I wish I could add that much content to any of my pages |
| 22:58.15 | Tybusen | Do the planets mentioned all have to necessarily be Milky Way worlds? |
| 22:58.29 | Imperios | OluapPlayer_: I am not whining |
| 22:58.34 | Tybusen | You could also compare to other major worlds outside of the Milky Way like Alcanti or Orbispira |
| 22:58.43 | Xho | big bage is pig |
| 22:58.45 | OluapPlayer_ | >DAMN YOU yeh u are |
| 22:59.12 | Imperios | I am speaking in capslock like half of the time |
| 22:59.25 | Imperios | It is only when I use it repeatedly that I am really upset |
| 22:59.28 | Xho | CYKA |
| 22:59.36 | OluapPlayer_ | cheeki my breeki |
| 22:59.54 | Tybusen | da |
| 23:00.08 | Imperios | I kind of want to add something about the different places in Sanctuarium |
| 23:00.14 | Imperios | Maybe the local animals |
| 23:00.20 | Xho | Imperios: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/de/PlanetAnatezcji0.png/revision/latest?cb=20130712184824 dem similarities tho |
| 23:00.24 | Imperios | Like the giant subway rats I talked about |
| 23:00.35 | Imperios | Radeon - prepare to be sued |
| 23:00.52 | Xho | Kicath - you can't call radeon giant subway rats well you might here but that's here we're talking about |
| 23:01.16 | Imperios | I actually want to give Iovera a small pet |
| 23:01.20 | Imperios | Not sure if a mouse or a monkey |
| 23:01.23 | Tybusen | Now I'm imagining fat Radeon speaking with thick New York accents |
| 23:01.30 | OluapPlayer_ | She's supposed to have a Iolestin |
| 23:01.39 | Imperios | Called Celestia |
| 23:01.41 | Imperios | Now I remember |
| 23:01.54 | Xho | celestia the iolestin guys the tongue twisters |
| 23:01.54 | Imperios | Xho: One big difference though |
| 23:02.39 | Imperios | Kicath construct buildings that reach to the sky |
| 23:02.48 | Imperios | Radeons dig down to the core |
| 23:03.11 | Xho | Kicath - lol rats |
| 23:03.24 | Hachiman | They dig because the Jews know that there's gold down there |
| 23:03.45 | Xho | Radeon are rat jews and Kicath are eugenic lizards |
| 23:03.45 | Imperios | Radeon - DIGGY DIGGY HOLE DIGGING A HOLE |
| 23:03.50 | Xho | Kicath are now Space Nazis |
| 23:03.52 | OluapPlayer_ | dey rats not dwarves |
| 23:03.54 | Imperios | Hachiman: Radeons are sort of like space JEws |
| 23:04.15 | Xho | Although ultimately the Dominion are the Space Nazis |
| 23:04.32 | Xho | heil cheese and whatnot |
| 23:04.33 | Hachiman | Kithworto - hey this hitler guy had the right idea maybe humans arent so bad after all |
| 23:04.43 | Xho | Alexandre - MON DIEU |
| 23:05.05 | Xho | I actually don't know the Kicathian view of Hitler |
| 23:05.25 | Imperios | Radeons would probably approve of Stalin more |
| 23:05.25 | Xho | Their machine like coldness might view Hitler as more beneficial towards humanity than not |
| 23:05.31 | OluapPlayer_ | "he had a nice mustache" |
| 23:05.36 | Imperios | Xho: But Hitler was anything but cold |
| 23:05.42 | Xho | The Kicath I mean |
| 23:05.45 | Tybusen | Kicathian History Books - apparently this bloke is pretty important to humans but he only killed about 15 million people, what an amateur |
| 23:06.10 | Hachiman | Holy shit |
| 23:06.21 | Xho | Historically the Kicath are known to have exterminated multiple species |
| 23:06.36 | Xho | They're quite evil as a whole, their general niceness has only come about since the Ice Age |
| 23:06.38 | Imperios | The Radeon view of the Middle Ages however |
| 23:06.54 | Primisback | Primiae - get behind me YOU SHALL NOT HARM THEM |
| 23:06.55 | OluapPlayer_ | So have the Dracogonarious, are they Hitler? Actually according to Old Fang, yes |
| 23:06.56 | Primisback | basically |
| 23:07.20 | Xho | Mainly because the Gigaquadrant was mostly unaware of the fact the Kicath went through mass exterminations to perfect their populace |
| 23:07.33 | Xho | Not of their own species, the Kicath view themselves as unchangeable |
| 23:08.18 | OluapPlayer_ | Universe - u were the problem all along |
| 23:08.28 | Imperios | "Here you can see the map of the Islam cult fighting the Christianity cult; despite their religious differences their doctrine was largely the same and they revered the same god. This proves that the Christian-Muslim conflicts were ultimately unproductive, and much greater benefit would be gained from Christians and Muslims uniting under their shared deity and ganging up on Buddhists." |
| 23:08.29 | Tybusen | Historical Kicath - man look at all this lebensraum |
| 23:08.34 | Primisback | Me - cmon sporewiki give me some fiction i can join |
| 23:08.36 | Xho | This didn't happen on the daily but through the period of a hundred thousand years they got an occasional psychopath in power |
| 23:08.44 | Imperios | That'd be the Radeon view of the Crusades |
| 23:09.13 | Imperios | Not sure what they would think of human leaders in particular |
| 23:09.21 | Tybusen | Radeon - lol buddhists |
| 23:09.45 | Xho | Kicath - living space paved with the ashes of the dead |
| 23:10.17 | Imperios | I imagine they would like some Communist leaders, probably Muhammad, and maybe Ivan the Terrible |
| 23:10.34 | Xho | I do wonder whether Paclernos may have been Zhulultu-engineered considering the similarities between the Kicath and the Zhulultu |
| 23:10.35 | Imperios | Basically any leader who professed unity through ideology |
| 23:10.38 | Tybusen | Kicath Agriculture: irrigated with the blood of enemies and fertilized with the ashes of the dead |
| 23:11.04 | Hachiman | Fucking, the Radeon view on Gandhi |
| 23:11.06 | Imperios | Hitler they might have disliked as his ideology professed conflict rather than unification; though the Anschluss and the idea of a greater Germanic Reich they would like |
| 23:11.36 | Tybusen | Radeons on Gandhi - If only this guy got some nuclear weapons that would've been a sight to see |
| 23:11.53 | Xho | Kicath - evolution through science and war |
| 23:12.23 | Imperios | Hachiman: "Excellent at using the window of opportunity provided by war to create a new stable state, but unfortunately lacked the fortitude to unite it further and failed to recognise religion as an important factor" |
| 23:12.31 | Xho | I'm just quoting Deathshead now |
| 23:12.38 | Imperios | And yes, nukes |
| 23:12.44 | Imperios | India has nukes now right |
| 23:12.54 | Tybusen | Yeah but Gandhi died before they got them |
| 23:13.11 | Xho | Kicath - EVOLUTION DURCH WISSENSCHAFT UND KRIEG |
| 23:13.17 | Xho | It works, german-speaking Kicath |
| 23:13.51 | Primisback | what if |
| 23:13.54 | Imperios | But Radeons are also Germans |
| 23:13.57 | Imperios | And Jews |
| 23:13.59 | Imperios | And Arabs |
| 23:13.59 | Primisback | you had a torus you could just fall down? |
| 23:14.03 | Imperios | And the Chinese |
| 23:14.21 | Primisback | faller - i've been falling for the past 24 hours please let me out |
| 23:14.33 | Xho | Kicath - go fuck yourself confucious mcgoldkraut |
| 23:14.50 | Imperios | My initial idea of them was like space Arabs/Germans |
| 23:15.11 | Imperios | They used to be awful religious maniacs but are now trying to become peaceful |
| 23:15.15 | Imperios | And yet nobody likes them either wyt |
| 23:15.17 | Imperios | way |
| 23:15.51 | Xho | Kicath - rats |
| 23:17.33 | Imperios | Radeons probably did not conduct genocide but they were pretty brutal during their conquests and may have displaced and/or extincted some species through them |
| 23:17.48 | Imperios | So they might have exterminated species, but not in an organised way |
| 23:18.44 | Xho | probably did not conduct genocide |
| 23:19.13 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain%3AJaharan_ae-Zamarros dis guy tho |
| 23:19.29 | Imperios | He wanted to *conquer* people, not *exterminate* them |
| 23:20.01 | Imperios | Billions of dead humans are mostly afterthoughts |
| 23:20.49 | OluapPlayer_ | He did a pretty poor job then |
| 23:20.51 | Imperios | I imagined Radeons at their worst were "convert or die": they would be focused mostly on converting the enemy to their way of thinking rather than destroying them as a race |
| 23:21.38 | Imperios | So rather than exterminating a species, they would exterminate cultures |
| 23:21.47 | Imperios | And assimilate the rest |
| 23:26.33 | Imperios | Ohgod rereading the Jaharan page |
| 23:26.43 | Imperios | Certainly one of my best works |
| 23:27.00 | Imperios | "When dawn rose, those Dei'Ar who participated in the attacks on civilians were hanged, emasculated (or infibulated), and then quartered - but their life again preserved - their tongues cut and eyes gouged so they could do nothing but writhe in pain in cages." |
| 23:30.01 | OluapPlayer_ | edgiest radeon who ever lived |
| 23:30.11 | OluapPlayer_ | Makes Telfinne look like a circle |
| 23:31.21 | Imperios | What if his beard was actually edgy too |
| 23:31.25 | Imperios | edged I mean |
| 23:31.58 | Imperios | I wouldn't call Jaharan edgy actually; he does not really conform to usual "dark lord" tropes at least visually |
| 23:32.08 | Imperios | I mean he did not wear black robes |
| 23:32.13 | Imperios | Telfinne however was godawful edgy |
| 23:32.23 | Imperios | I mean she was cool |
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| 23:32.26 | Imperios | But seriosly |
| 23:32.37 | Imperios | Turning into a demoness because noone understood her and her parents died |
| 23:32.39 | Imperios | That is like |
| 23:32.40 | Imperios | Wow |
| 23:32.43 | Imperios | My shame |
| 23:32.47 | OluapPlayer_ | kek |
| 23:32.52 | OluapPlayer_ | Still canon |
| 23:34.55 | Imperios | I think her later "cackling insane perky girl" characterisation is more palpatable |
| 23:35.16 | Imperios | Not very original |
| 23:35.18 | Imperios | But palpatable |
| 23:36.04 | Xho | Angazhar - dun care lol |
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| 23:43.50 | ImpyDroid | BTW Tybusen what do you think of the Sanctuarium page so far? |
| 23:44.11 | Tybusen | It's looking good so far |
| 23:44.14 | Tybusen | Lots of detail |
| 23:44.41 | Tybusen | It feels almost like it could be a real place |
| 23:47.51 | ImpyDroid | Nice ^^ |
| 23:54.57 | Hachiman | Aye, I do appreciate the amount of effort you've put into the details of it |
| 23:55.05 | Hachiman | Granted, I'm not all that into economical stuff |
