| 00:07.50 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 00:09.08 | The_Randomness | Wormy_: New Crash Course Philosophy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SJROTXnmus |
| 00:09.24 | Wormy_ | cool |
| 00:20.16 | Wormy_ | Watched the video, there's also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Property_dualism |
| 00:21.26 | The_Randomness | Interesting |
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| 00:56.57 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 00:57.00 | The_Randomness | I must say, the amount of punishment the typical RPG character is impressive |
| 00:57.25 | The_Randomness | Like, in Skyrim, I should've been burned to a crisp, froze to death, and been chopped to pieces at least several times now |
| 00:58.16 | DrodoEmpire | Reminds me of Far Cry, especially FC2 |
| 00:58.43 | DrodoEmpire | I swear, by the end of the game your guy's basically made of cauterised bullet wounds and morphine >.< |
| 00:58.49 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 01:10.56 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/MDZ72sN |
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| 01:13.26 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/t6M58 |
| 01:16.19 | The_Randomness | Oh, and I forgot to mention that apparently the average RPG character doesn't really need sleep either |
| 01:16.40 | The_Randomness | So you can go on adventures for days without end without collapsing from exhaustion or going mad from sleep deprivation |
| 01:17.06 | The_Randomness | *days on end |
| 01:19.10 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:19.27 | DrodoEmpire | Many don't need to eat either |
| 01:19.40 | The_Randomness | Oh yeah, that too |
| 01:20.12 | Quark8_ | Water and temperature usually don't matter as well. |
| 01:22.37 | DrodoEmpire | FC2's guilty of not-eating and never getting medical attention for wounds beyond morphine syrettes and extracting bullets from your limbs with pliers, but at the very least, you can save in the form of taking naps in safehouses |
| 01:23.36 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 01:24.24 | Wormy_ | At least in Fallout your character can succumb to radiation and drug addiction |
| 01:24.49 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:25.26 | DrodoEmpire | Oh yeah in FC2 your character suffers from Malaria through the whole game (it takes place in Central Africa), so you need to take meds for it and you need to take missions to get more |
| 01:25.51 | DrodoEmpire | That's an interesting mechanic I think |
| 01:27.16 | Wormy_ | I have Far Cry 3, but never played it |
| 01:27.18 | The_Randomness | Huh, that is kind of interesting |
| 01:28.57 | Quark8_ | The_Randomness: What do you think of Skyrim? Would you recommend it? |
| 01:29.09 | The_Randomness | It seems pretty good so far |
| 01:29.29 | Wormy_ | So apparently, the Ocean Sunfish is the largest type of plankton, because it is the largest creature of the ocean that can't swim against the current. |
| 01:30.18 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
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| 06:30.11 | Quark8 | Hi. |
| 06:37.38 | DrodoEmpire | hi |
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| 09:33.12 | lukosa | Heeeelloooo there people :P How are you? So i had this idea |
| 09:33.48 | lukosa | (i dont know if anyone else done it though ) to make character's sneak peek in a like a comic book way |
| 09:34.26 | lukosa | i have made one and i want you to tell me if it looks good or bad and if i should do it for other of my charactes too |
| 09:34.52 | lukosa | here is the link to the character i made http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Erasminia_Markedion#Relations |
| 09:35.25 | lukosa | go to the gallery of the page. i have the photo there and gimme your feedback about it |
| 09:35.42 | lukosa | P.S : you may need to zoom one of the two :P |
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| 12:27.33 | Monet | hi |
| 12:29.01 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 12:30.37 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 12:47.30 | Monet | So there's a philosopher's tone in the Sims 3, the mechanics of which I find are kind of interesting. |
| 12:48.07 | Hachiman | Oh? |
| 12:49.05 | Monet | It turns portable items into gold, but those items can potentially be worth less when turned into gold (depending on the item). |
| 12:49.32 | OluapPlayer | Can't it also backfire and kill the SIm by turning them into a gold statue? |
| 12:49.33 | Monet | There's also a high chance the attempt either deletes the item or turns the sim into a golden statue. |
| 12:49.38 | OluapPlayer | c |
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| 12:49.44 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 12:49.48 | Monet | A statue you can sell |
| 12:49.49 | Monet | Hi |
| 12:51.19 | Monet | I think this is clever mechanics |
| 12:51.44 | OluapPlayer | Do you have all the expansion packs installed? |
| 12:52.09 | Monet | I've got most of them. I think I stopped getting them after Generations. |
| 12:52.42 | OluapPlayer | Last I played, I was controlling a pair of witches |
| 12:52.56 | OluapPlayer | Once you reach high magic skill they become trivial to maintain |
| 12:53.34 | OluapPlayer | They got spells that fill needs for basically everything except sleep and social |
| 12:54.49 | OluapPlayer | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/9a/DualClothoSims3.png/revision/latest?cb=20160318200559 here they are |
| 12:55.12 | Monet | Of course they're cute goth girls lol |
| 12:55.25 | Wormy_ | Latest news of the http://www.nationstates.net/page=activity/view=self |
| 12:55.26 | OluapPlayer | It's Clotholaire and Clothovera respectively |
| 12:55.44 | OluapPlayer | And Clotholaire was an adult with a job |
| 12:55.49 | Wormy_ | * http://www.nationstates.net/nation=coalition_delpha |
| 12:55.50 | OluapPlayer | Most specifically, a ghost hunter |
| 12:58.04 | Monet | The high chance of the stone backfiring discourages abuse or greed, while the whole gold thing well it's not the most expensive material out there. |
| 12:58.05 | OluapPlayer | I got them both to level 10 magic so they never had to eat, bathe or go to the bathroom except if I purposely made them do it |
| 12:58.53 | Hachiman | Huh |
| 12:59.12 | Hachiman | Actually, that reminds me |
| 12:59.32 | Hachiman | I did have one conceptual idea for a new Sylit character and what kind of fiction they'd be involved in |
| 12:59.33 | OluapPlayer | There were also spells that improved moods, spells that set people on fire, turned people's heads into frogs or made them fall in love with you |
| 12:59.39 | OluapPlayer | Overall witches are pretty fucking OP |
| 13:00.15 | Monet | So level ten spellcasters are borderlien gods. |
| 13:01.13 | Monet | Makes sense when you consider level 10 logic = chess grandmaster, level 10 cooking = Michelin star chef etc. |
| 13:01.17 | OluapPlayer | More or less. Their spells can backfire but even then there's a thing you can buy (on the same screen as the philosopher's stone iirc) which let them cast spells with their hands instead of wands, which never backfire |
| 13:01.56 | OluapPlayer | If there was a no-sleep spell your Sim would never have to stop increasing skills |
| 13:02.02 | Monet | I did some random browsing and at the moment platinum is slightly more expensive per ounce than gold. |
| 13:02.34 | OluapPlayer | I'm not too knowledgeable about precious metals but I though platinum was always more expensive than gold |
| 13:03.39 | Monet | The price of gold is a lot more stable, atm averaging $1000/ounce |
| 13:04.01 | OluapPlayer | In my head it has always gone Platinum > Gold > Silver > Copper |
| 13:04.34 | Wormy_ | At the moment gold is marginally above platinum per ounce |
| 13:04.39 | Monet | Actualyl looking at trends you are right |
| 13:04.56 | Monet | Platinum has generally been slightly more expensive than gold. |
| 13:05.53 | OluapPlayer | I always thought platinum was rarer than gold |
| 13:05.59 | OluapPlayer | Not a geologist though so I wouldn't know |
| 13:06.00 | Monet | It is |
| 13:06.23 | Hachiman | I always thought the same |
| 13:06.29 | OluapPlayer | So, by offer and demand platinum should be more expensive than gold |
| 13:07.43 | Monet | There's a joke among chemists that one can make gold using beta decay. Problem is that requires platinum. |
| 13:08.14 | Wormy_ | There is slightly more relative abundance of platinum in the crust https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abundance_of_elements_in_Earth%27s_crust |
| 13:08.20 | Monet | I think...crap I may have failed chemistry there |
| 13:09.11 | Monet | Gold is only slightly cheaper than platinum because there are many more uses for it. |
| 13:09.15 | OluapPlayer | Osmium |
| 13:09.19 | OluapPlayer | Never heard of that one |
| 13:09.34 | Wormy_ | But whether that scarcity difference makes much of an impact on the economics of extraction and processing, I don't know. Both are probably pretty stable but platinum price might be falling that changed in the past |
| 13:10.52 | Monet | Almost half of the platinum on the market is used to make catalytic converters in cars, with the second biggest use being in jewelery. |
| 13:12.03 | Monet | Gold however has *many* applications |
| 13:12.36 | Wormy_ | If jewellery fell out of fashion, while the electronics industry grows and finds more useful for gold, yeah |
| 13:12.48 | Wormy_ | *of fashion for platinum |
| 13:13.14 | Monet | Jewellery, electronics, embroidery, medicine, EM shielding and heat shielding are soem uses. |
| 13:14.33 | Monet | Hell people even eat gold, either as edible gold leaf or as nanoparticles mixed into food. |
| 13:15.06 | OluapPlayer | Eating gold |
| 13:15.11 | OluapPlayer | That can't be healthy |
| 13:15.27 | Wormy_ | Its pretty chemically inert to most biological functions |
| 13:15.29 | Monet | It's relatively nontoxic actually |
| 13:15.46 | Monet | Unlike a lot of metals |
| 13:15.50 | Wormy_ | I actually have gold in my mineral collection, in rough form |
| 13:16.11 | Wormy_ | in its raw and impure state its much cheaper |
| 13:17.23 | Monet | I think what makes gold safe to eat is its relative inability to interact with anything. |
| 13:18.19 | Monet | Gold is quite unreactive when exposed to acid, and there are n oenzymes in the body d |
| 13:18.27 | Monet | designed to break down gold |
| 13:19.03 | Monet | So any attempt to eat gold generally results in it coming back out as expensive poo. |
| 13:19.57 | Monet | http://www.bitrebels.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/sundae2.jpg here's a chocolate sundae topped with gold |
| 13:20.29 | Monet | http://www.bitrebels.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/goldcoffee.jpg or how about a $25 cappuccino? |
| 13:20.36 | Wormy_ | Food for thought: all the gold in the universe was once thought to have formed in supernovae. Now astrophysicists think much if not most forms from neutron star collisions. |
| 13:21.10 | Wormy_ | think about that next time you wear it or eat it |
| 13:21.23 | OluapPlayer | hehe food cause we're talking about eating gold |
| 13:26.41 | Monet | Gold's always been considered valuable, not so much for platinum. When the Spanish first arrived in Central America they were obviously gobsmacked about how much gold the natives were using. But there are accounts of entire mines being abandoned and their output dumped into the sea because no one back in Europe knew what platinum was |
| 13:36.34 | Wormy_ | Personally I love alloys of gold, like electrum which has silver http://66.media.tumblr.com/f94a2cbfe98b0de98a206977d367b617/tumblr_n6e46d2hVi1tscbfqo1_1280.jpg |
| 13:36.38 | Monet | There used to be a time when aluminium was more valuable than gold. |
| 13:36.56 | OluapPlayer | I learned about electrum through Dwarf Fortress |
| 13:37.13 | OluapPlayer | Led me to make whole rooms with furniture all made of electrum |
| 13:38.00 | Monet | Hide the fortress form the Spanish. |
| 13:38.18 | OluapPlayer | Imagine your sock drawer being made of special gold-silver hybrid material |
| 13:38.43 | Wormy_ | As a collector of rough minerals I'd buy this http://wowoon.net/anh/2015/27-12/museum-quality-specimen-of-crystalline-native-gold-on-quartz-matrix-stones-gems-gems-minerals-gem-stones-z-reino-mineral-2-rocks-crystals-beautiful-gemstones-gold-crystals-gems-rocks-rocks-stones.jpg over this http://goldbarshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/gold-bars.jpg |
| 13:39.20 | OluapPlayer | DF also taught me pig iron is a thing that exists and that steel isn't actually something you can find in nature |
| 13:40.00 | Wormy_ | more nice pictures of gold http://www.mindat.org/gm/1720 |
| 13:40.13 | Monet | The capstone of the Washington monument is a pyramid-shaped block of pure aluminium. Because at the time the stuff was more valuable than gold. |
| 13:40.48 | Wormy_ | Yeah "pig" can be lumped on any metal that comes out of a furnace |
| 13:41.08 | Monet | I've even heard stories that Napoleon Bonaparte ate from plates and cutlery made from aluminium |
| 13:41.08 | OluapPlayer | Yeah but like, you use pig iron to make steel |
| 13:41.20 | OluapPlayer | Before that I thought steel was just a regular metal you could find |
| 13:41.28 | Hachiman | Nah, steel is extracted from iron |
| 13:41.44 | Monet | It also comes in many different compositions |
| 13:42.11 | Monet | Stainless steel for instance is made by adding zinc. |
| 13:43.03 | OluapPlayer | Before DF I never knew there were such things as magnetite, hematite, galena, jet or mica |
| 13:43.18 | OluapPlayer | To me it was all just "rock" |
| 13:43.24 | Wormy_ | Iron bonds with other "iron loving elements", so in the crust its always in ore form |
| 13:43.43 | Monet | I love the depths of DF's geology. |
| 13:44.27 | Monet | It even includes rocks that in medieval European times just weren't used like native platinum or saltpeter. |
| 13:44.28 | Wormy_ | and its also very reactive |
| 13:45.00 | Monet | The materials to make gunpowder exist within DF - it's just unknown how to make it. |
| 13:45.03 | Wormy_ | > magnetite, hematite, galena, jet or mica |
| 13:45.10 | Wormy_ | I have all those things |
| 13:45.17 | OluapPlayer | DF has pitchblende in it too |
| 13:45.21 | OluapPlayer | Pitchblende is an ore of uranium |
| 13:45.35 | Monet | Aye |
| 13:45.40 | Wormy_ | All right, I don't have one |
| 13:45.45 | OluapPlayer | Only a matter of time until dwarven nukes are a thing |
| 13:45.49 | OluapPlayer | NUKE THE ELVES |
| 13:46.28 | Monet | Would take a lo of high technology |
| 13:47.16 | OluapPlayer | http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Stone http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Ore http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Gem |
| 13:47.18 | OluapPlayer | The whole list |
| 13:47.33 | Hachiman | First off, the dwarves need to split the atom |
| 13:48.26 | OluapPlayer | Drop a bridge into the pitchblende and it explodes into a nuke |
| 13:49.09 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid: Apparently Total Warhammer was datamined recently and there was data found for a possible future Skaven DLC |
| 13:49.12 | Hachiman | Much yes-yes |
| 13:49.28 | Wormy_ | I do have some poisonous minerals though: cinnabar (mercury sulphide), realgar (arsenic sulphide), galena (lead sulphide) and some copper sulphate crystals |
| 13:49.37 | Monet | The most basic form of uranium enrichment is to separate the isotopes though diffusion. |
| 13:49.47 | OluapPlayer | In DF cinnabar is the heaviest stone in the game |
| 13:50.30 | OluapPlayer | Very good for traps that make stone fall in your enemy's head but your dwarf will spend half of his life moving it around |
| 13:51.37 | Wormy_ | respective pics http://www.gemselect.com/other-info/graphics/cinnabar-crystals-spain.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xjcwwA-nj8k/TQjLE52hDTI/AAAAAAAAA_g/iK_CloMtQdg/s1600/or.gif http://geology.com/minerals/photos/galena-crystal.jpg http://previews.123rf.com/images/nneirda/nneirda1307/nneirda130700006/21060949-Crystals-of-blue-vitl-Copper-sulfate-Stock-Photo.jpg |
| 13:51.39 | Monet | Though the real-world use of gaseous diffusion is very, very wasteful. As in nature for every tonne of pure uranium, you'll get at least...7-9 kilos of weapons-grade uranium. |
| 13:51.57 | OluapPlayer | Looks very pretty |
| 13:52.16 | Monet | And that's if you want pure Uranium-238. |
| 13:52.21 | Wormy_ | just don't eat those ones |
| 13:52.32 | OluapPlayer | What impresses me as something with no experience with geology is how all of those lists are real stones and ores |
| 13:52.45 | OluapPlayer | The only fictional metals in the game are adamantine and divine metal worn by angels |
| 13:53.18 | Wormy_ | I'm quite impressed too. I''ve always thought Minecraft for example, would be more interesting if it generated realistic geology and mineral deposits |
| 13:53.25 | Monet | OluapPLayer: And slade. |
| 13:53.32 | OluapPlayer | Ah yeah slade too |
| 13:53.36 | Monet | Wait that's a rock |
| 13:53.37 | OluapPlayer | But you can't make weapons out of slade |
| 13:53.38 | Wormy_ | Good that DF does have such |
| 13:53.49 | OluapPlayer | Slade being the rock that Hell is made of |
| 13:54.22 | OluapPlayer | Wormy_: I'm pretty sure Notch notes DF as being an inspiration of Minecraft |
| 13:54.28 | Monet | The only fictional rock is named after an English rock band. |
| 13:56.48 | Monet | Imagine digging down to Hell and hearing this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gqCCAb8xbw |
| 13:56.54 | OluapPlayer | This is a game with a very realistic stone system, where you can also raise porcupine farms and get killed by were-gila monsters |
| 13:57.20 | OluapPlayer | Little did we all know demons all have Legendary skill in Music |
| 13:58.10 | OluapPlayer | The porcupine farm is something I'm doing right now. I got a pair of them making babies |
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| 14:13.11 | OluapPlayer | Fucking internet I swear |
| 14:13.20 | OluapPlayer | Did someone message me in the last 10 minutes? |
| 14:13.44 | Monet | Not really. |
| 14:14.10 | OluapPlayer | Right |
| 14:16.39 | OluapPlayer | I mentioned I was breeding porcupines. Now I'm getting harassed by cavemen again |
| 14:19.05 | NeonPanda | Monet: Just destroyed my first Fallen Empire, and shut down the Unbidden |
| 14:19.19 | Monet | Bloody hell |
| 14:20.12 | Hachiman | Jesus fuck |
| 14:20.19 | NeonPanda | the Fallen Empire died pretty hard, shoved 40k worth of tachyon lance battleships down their throat, then just went from sector to sector claiming their stuff, the Unbidden were a lot harder |
| 14:20.40 | Hachiman | I am surprised that you didn't GG when the Unbidden appeared |
| 14:20.57 | NeonPanda | I should say I did have two friends' help with the Unbidden, between us we had 120k strength total |
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| 14:55.46 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 15:01.37 | Monet | Hi |
| 15:42.05 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 15:42.28 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, maybe not |
| 15:53.54 | Monet | dead |
| 15:56.09 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/BhUUE |
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| 16:02.18 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/CHH6b |
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| 16:16.08 | DrodoEmpire | Back >.< |
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| 16:20.03 | OluapPlayer | spu |
| 16:20.37 | Xho | u |
| 16:23.32 | Xho | I'm not happy with that Kicath head now |
| 16:23.38 | Xho | Gonna do some tweaks |
| 16:40.17 | Xho | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/cf/KicathHeadRender.png/revision/latest?cb=20160802163936 Gave them a more metallic look |
| 16:41.01 | DrodoEmpire | Ooh, nice |
| 16:44.51 | Xho | Tempted to do another ZBrush today but I don't know what of |
| 16:44.58 | Xho | I said Vi'Navitum but I'm open to suggestions |
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| 16:48.52 | Monet | hi |
| 16:49.28 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 16:49.38 | Xho | Monet: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/cf/KicathHeadRender.png/revision/latest?cb=20160802163936 |
| 16:50.14 | Monet | Alpha Kicath? |
| 16:50.42 | Xho | Just a standard Kicat |
| 16:50.44 | Xho | Kicath even |
| 16:50.54 | Xho | I made their textures more metallic |
| 16:51.15 | Monet | Tint loosk good. |
| 16:51.52 | Xho | I said earlier I might do a ZBrush model of a Vi'Navitum but I'm open to suggestions of other things |
| 16:52.12 | Monet | I was reading though the Kicath page and started wondering if there's been any sort of social tension between breeds of Kicath. |
| 16:52.51 | Xho | Hm |
| 16:53.08 | Xho | Kicathian racism isn't that common at all in my head |
| 16:53.18 | Xho | It's mostly aristocratic hierarchies |
| 16:53.40 | Xho | Thinking about it an Alpha Kicath would look scary as fuck |
| 16:55.33 | Monet | The page indicates Alphas are generally larger, darker-toned and have fewer eye colours than Betas |
| 16:57.59 | Xho | Yup |
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| 16:58.12 | Xho | They're darker toned and generally richer in colour |
| 16:58.24 | Xho | As most Kicath come across as monochromatic/iridescent in colour |
| 17:01.06 | NeonPanda | hi all |
| 17:01.27 | Monet | Could be interesting to explore how the existence of alpha-beta-sampi variants affected Kicath social development |
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| 17:07.55 | Monet_2 | hat was annoying. |
| 17:08.56 | Monet_2 | Was there nything after what I last said? |
| 17:09.34 | Xho | Nope |
| 17:13.39 | Xho | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/71/AlphaKicathRender.png/revision/latest?cb=20160802171248 That's the kind of tones from Alpha Kicath skin |
| 17:14.40 | DrodoEmpire | Huh cool |
| 17:14.52 | Monet_2 | A lot more iron-like |
| 17:16.52 | Xho | Sampi Kicath, well |
| 17:16.55 | Xho | Their skin is very different |
| 17:18.30 | Monet_2 | The militant organiser side of the Kicath seems to lead well to ideas like eugenics and traits that favour strong warriors (which they seem to already do, trading agility for strength). |
| 17:18.57 | Monet_2 | lend well* |
| 17:22.44 | Xho | I'm not sure whether the Kicath would remove negative traits |
| 17:22.49 | Xho | That's a lie actually they would |
| 17:23.23 | Monet_2 | That's what I'm thinking. |
| 17:24.17 | Xho | They tend to be quite elitist against alien races well |
| 17:24.27 | Xho | They favour strong and intelligent races over the not-so-much |
| 17:25.08 | Xho | Although they're not EXTERMINATE on them |
| 17:25.41 | Monet_2 | Eugenics doesn't have to involve killing the 'bad' stock. |
| 17:26.56 | Monet_2 | A society that thinks forward long enough could, in theory just make sure those deemed to have undesirable traits don't produce offspring. |
| 17:27.00 | Hachiman | Isn't that the point of eugenics? |
| 17:28.13 | Xho | Well the Kicath are usually 'Exterminate? [Yes] No' on most things |
| 17:28.46 | Xho | I doubt physical disabilities exist in the Kicath race now |
| 17:28.51 | Xho | Mental however |
| 17:28.52 | Xho | Well |
| 17:28.53 | Monet_2 | The point of eugenics is to improve the species by making sure it is the desirable traits that thrive. |
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| 17:30.18 | Monet_2 | Doing that by exterminating those with undesirable traits is a fairly rapid solution. Which is what makes it popular by extremist groups. |
| 17:30.32 | Hachiman | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Sylit Also did a bit more stuff here |
| 17:30.42 | DrodoEmpire | Xho: What might their opinion be on the Drodo? (As incredibly broad such a statement is >.<) |
| 17:30.55 | Hachiman | Mainly characteristics and filling in a bit of Cycklos' tab |
| 17:31.01 | Hachiman | or bio, rather] |
| 17:31.10 | Xho | Their views on humanoids are waxing a bit as they used to be negative |
| 17:31.24 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh, right |
| 17:31.33 | Xho | Kicath viewed most humanoid races as basically small, pink and squishy |
| 17:32.41 | DrodoEmpire | Hachi: Interesting to see more species that aren't enormous |
| 17:32.55 | Xho | Hachiman: fukn sylits and dere interspecies dumness |
| 17:33.36 | Monet_2 | Radeons = grey snobby twigs iirc |
| 17:33.45 | Xho | More or less |
| 17:33.54 | Hachiman | Xho: For one, that's no longer canon |
| 17:34.11 | Xho | FUKN SYLITS AND DERE INTERSPECIES DUMNESS CANNOT BE UNSEEN |
| 17:34.21 | Xho | CANNOT BE UNSEEN SHAME |
| 17:34.26 | Xho | But yeah good page so far |
| 17:34.29 | Xho | tiny aliens |
| 17:35.04 | Monet_2 | Tiny but resilient. |
| 17:36.32 | Monet_2 | "glands positioned in the corners of a Sylit's eye sockets possessing the ability to shoot squirts of the same substance" so they can squirt poison from their eyes? Impressive and cool. |
| 17:36.46 | Monet_2 | And blood... |
| 17:36.57 | Xho | ZÃÂ-Jittorám - ew gross |
| 17:38.08 | Hachiman | Their blood often contains toxic elements |
| 17:38.53 | Monet_2 | Was going to say |
| 17:39.28 | Monet_2 | You could die from hepatitis if one squirts you. |
| 17:40.20 | Hachiman | I mean, if you were a predator, would you want to eat something armed with poisonous spikes that can squirt toxic blood at you |
| 17:40.32 | Hachiman | From its eyes no less |
| 17:40.42 | Monet_2 | I wonder now if they hold blood in spiritual regard. |
| 17:41.15 | Monet_2 | It is both a means of survival, and a conveyer of emotion. |
| 17:41.59 | Xho | Néva - drink it :V |
| 17:42.49 | Hachiman | https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11229697_447343378778479_9070771416587022991_n.jpg?oh=ce657ebe7b27406c3695a89b0cf6df39&oe=5818965A |
| 17:43.38 | Xho | >dragonball evolution |
| 17:43.47 | Xho | westernisation was a mistake |
| 17:44.44 | Monet_2 | Japan seems to have adapted our culture better than how we've adapted theirs. |
| 17:45.06 | DrodoEmpire | cherrypicking is also a mistake <.< |
| 17:45.25 | Monet_2 | We'll see how the GITS movie does. |
| 17:45.44 | Monet_2 | then again GITS isn't that Japan-specific. |
| 17:46.43 | Monet_2 | Actually have to agree with Drodo - I'm now recalling a few times were western culture was basically sodomised by the Japanese take. |
| 17:47.18 | NeonPanda | and a few times where the west got Japan down to a tee |
| 17:47.23 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 17:47.28 | Xho | Hey they got tentacle porn down all by themselves |
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| 17:48.28 | Hachiman | I don't really recall any times the West actually got Japanese culture down other than maybe Avatar what with all of its Asian-style spiritual stuff |
| 17:48.38 | Xho | dat cartoon was lit |
| 17:48.45 | Xho | And it was mostly Chinese influences |
| 17:48.49 | Xho | But still |
| 17:50.04 | DrodoEmpire | Hachiman: A few movies looked more at the traditional culture of Japan- The Last Samurai, for its inaccuracies, did take a good look at the Samurai and captured the atmosphere of the Meiji era well |
| 17:50.24 | Monet_2 | Last Samurai maybe but that's more historical than popular media. |
| 17:50.35 | Hachiman | As far as I know, The Last Samurai is more accurate than most people actually give it credit for |
| 17:50.40 | DrodoEmpire | It is |
| 17:50.46 | Xho | That was a good film as well |
| 17:50.52 | DrodoEmpire | The inaccuracies are focused more in the military history bits |
| 17:51.14 | DrodoEmpire | The samurai, yes, used traditional weaponry in the Satsuma revolt- but they also used modern rifles and artillery and were pretty well-organised |
| 17:51.36 | Hachiman | Only reason they stopped using rifles and such was because they ran out of assets to use them |
| 17:51.38 | DrodoEmpire | Traditional weaponry was used out of desperation when ammunition ran out at Shiroyama I believe |
| 17:51.42 | Monet_2 | Hellsing is one of the few Anime that I recall that take Christianity seriously. |
| 17:51.55 | Hachiman | Monet_2: You're kidding right? |
| 17:52.01 | Hachiman | Hellsing is cool and all but holy shit |
| 17:52.05 | Xho | YOU'VE JUST ACTIVATED MY ALU-CARD |
| 17:52.21 | Xho | best moment whenever AD |
| 17:52.28 | DrodoEmpire | Which is why I say it captures the essence the period well (Japanese uniforms for the modern army were... Eh, reasonably accurate too) |
| 17:52.37 | Monet_2 | It's better than some *coughEvangelioncough* |
| 17:52.40 | DrodoEmpire | If not every detail like Waterloo did >.< |
| 17:52.41 | Hachiman | Its depiction of Christianity is very, VERY exaggerated |
| 17:53.36 | Hachiman | I do not like Evangelion all that much in general really |
| 17:53.47 | Monet_2 | Exaggerated yes, but it still plays truer than a lot of of the time. |
| 17:54.09 | DrodoEmpire | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6e/Dogon_Hunter.JPG/1024px-Dogon_Hunter.JPG "A Dogon hunter with flintlock rifle, Mali, 2010." |
| 17:54.25 | Hachiman | I find its characters intolerable, its story kind of eh, the endings are what the fuck-tier with no reasonable explanation or satisfying conclusion |
| 17:56.31 | NeonPanda | the best example I can think of of the west in general doing Japan right is Cyberpunk2020, the Pacific Rim Playbook |
| 17:56.59 | Monet_2 | I suppose a better way to say it is Hellsing at least tries to understand what it's portraying. |
| 17:58.20 | Xho | Hachiman Monet_2: https://twitter.com/TheCrimsonFuckr/status/254306345996677121 |
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| 18:02.01 | Monet_2 | Then again looking back at the comparison, it's not so much "adapt well" as "produces something amazing" |
| 18:03.24 | Monet_2 | Maybe this is more a demonstration of how niche Japanese media still is. |
| 18:03.30 | Monet_2 | in the West I mean |
| 18:04.10 | NeonPanda | holy shit someone actually made one |
| 18:04.19 | NeonPanda | actually made me laugh out lou |
| 18:04.23 | NeonPanda | god I need to rewatch that |
| 18:05.38 | Monet_2 | Dragonball, Naruto, Pokemon, Digimon, Ninja Warrior and Takeshi's Castle. Probably most people know of Japanese media outside Anime/Manga circles. |
| 18:06.17 | Monet_2 | Oh and Godzilla. |
| 18:06.31 | Monet_2 | Meanwhile Dark Souls, Metal Gear, and Earthbound were all the brainchildren of creators who were *heavily* into their western pop culture. |
| 18:06.54 | Xho | Gojira |
| 18:06.59 | Xho | I HAVE TO FIND THE WHALES |
| 18:08.31 | Monet_2 | These might be classic examples of how knowing your medium goes a hell of a long way to doing it right. |
| 18:08.52 | Monet_2 | Or doing it justice, whichever. |
| 18:12.29 | Monet_2 | Without the new generation producers who know video games, Warcraft and Angry Birds may have joined so many others in the bargain bin of shitty VG adaptations. Instead they were "meh, I guess?" |
| 18:13.11 | Monet_2 | Personally a video game adaptation getting an "eh, it was an okay" is an achievement. |
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| 18:13.47 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 18:13.49 | Hachiman | Angry Birds was worse than Warcraft from what I hear |
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| 18:14.18 | Xho | return of connection |
| 18:15.34 | OluapPlayer | bwah |
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| 18:17.18 | Cyrannian | Hello everyone |
| 18:17.27 | Quark8 | Hello Cyrannian. |
| 18:19.31 | OluapPlayer | ~eat Cyrannian |
| 18:19.31 | infobot | ACTION eats Cyrannian and falls over dead |
| 18:19.43 | Cyrannian | ~tickle OluapPlayer |
| 18:19.43 | infobot | ACTION jumps on OluapPlayer, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
| 18:20.05 | Cyrannian | Let me know if anyone has any featured fiction nominations |
| 18:21.55 | OluapPlayer | I nominate Dragostea by Hachi for featured captain |
| 18:22.05 | OluapPlayer | And War of Cleansing by moi and youse for story |
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| 18:23.21 | Charles_Bot | Just got a constituent call |
| 18:23.45 | Charles_Bot | "Refugees make me sick and we should not be letting them into this country." |
| 18:24.07 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 18:24.10 | DrodoEmpire | Hi Charles |
| 18:24.28 | Charles_Bot | *beat* "Alright. Could I have your name and zipcode so I can pass your message along to the Congressman?" |
| 18:25.30 | Charles_Bot | "No, I'm not giving you that information because I don't want the IRS to get me." *hangs up* |
| 18:25.48 | Quark8 | Cyrannian: I would nominate the Cyranai Hivemind for featured empire. |
| 18:33.02 | Charles_Bot | Cyrannian: I would like to nominate the X6 |
| 18:33.24 | Charles_Bot | And the Marko Colonial War for featured story |
| 18:33.52 | Monet_2 | Charles_Bot: IRS? Really? |
| 18:33.59 | Charles_Bot | If you can nominate a planet for anything, Sanctarium |
| 18:34.00 | Charles_Bot | Because Imperios. |
| 18:34.37 | Charles_Bot | Monet_2: IRS is a favorite boogeyman for conservatives with libertarian tendencies |
| 18:34.39 | Monet_2 | I guess he means NSA but still. If you're going to hate a department get it's acronym right. |
| 18:34.45 | Monet_2 | Oh |
| 18:34.47 | Charles_Bot | Er |
| 18:34.48 | Charles_Bot | No |
| 18:34.58 | Charles_Bot | Internal Revenue Service lol |
| 18:35.09 | Monet_2 | I know what the IRS are. |
| 18:35.43 | Monet_2 | I was wondering "why are you scared Inland Revenue would come and get you when you're a registered taxpayer?" |
| 18:36.51 | DrodoEmpire | Well I mean I see why the IRS would be scary for a libertarian, especially a libertarian conservative |
| 18:36.57 | DrodoEmpire | I say this as a libertarian myself. :p |
| 18:37.00 | Charles_Bot | ^ |
| 18:37.36 | Charles_Bot | We get tons of callers like that |
| 18:38.17 | Charles_Bot | Also tons of callers who are concerned that we're not letting enough refugees in, or that the children are dying in Aleppo |
| 18:38.29 | Charles_Bot | And then there are the save the horses people |
| 18:39.48 | Monet_2 | Oh dear. |
| 18:49.53 | Charles_Bot | Welcome to democracy |
| 18:50.09 | Charles_Bot | The more unsavory bits of it, anyway |
| 18:52.54 | NeonPanda | Stellaris has done something to me, because the first thing I think about when someone says democracy rn is the fact that all the democracies nearby me hate me because of a series of events that led me to founding a slave empre |
| 18:52.55 | NeonPanda | empire |
| 18:54.22 | Monet_2 | Democracy: Where complaining is considered typical political discourse. |
| 18:55.17 | NeonPanda | basically |
| 18:56.23 | NeonPanda | fun fact: people started complaining like hell because the national census this year is electronic by default, and that peoples' names and addresses are recorded |
| 18:57.10 | NeonPanda | what they forget is that names and addresses were always recorded, and the census data has been stored electronically for at least twenty years by now, they're just cutting out the paper in the middle |
| 18:57.44 | Monet_2 | 21st century data awareness in a nutshell. |
| 18:58.51 | Monet_2 | WHen I started reading my initial thought was peopel were complaining because depending on where you are, Australia's internet infrastructure is...kinda lame? |
| 18:59.20 | Imperios | Hiy |
| 18:59.33 | NeonPanda | oh it is, but that ain't the reason :P |
| 18:59.34 | Imperios | Charles_Bot: thank you ^^ |
| 18:59.39 | Imperios | Also Sanctuarium falls into fiction |
| 18:59.48 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: You there? |
| 18:59.57 | Imperios | BTW, can you give me a random important French city? |
| 19:00.02 | Imperios | Like IRL |
| 19:00.07 | Imperios | IRL France |
| 19:00.25 | Monet_2 | https://cdn.sqexeu.com/mtl/marketing/DXSite/London_Cities_of_2029_DXMD.jpg the fuck happened to London? |
| 19:00.30 | Charles_Bot | Marseilles? |
| 19:00.36 | Charles_Bot | Nice? |
| 19:00.41 | Charles_Bot | Lyon? |
| 19:00.49 | OluapPlayer | It's now home to a giant metal snake evidently |
| 19:00.55 | NeonPanda | oi, dat bridge on the right looks dead like a bridge we have |
| 19:01.11 | Imperios | Lyon works |
| 19:01.12 | Imperios | Thx |
| 19:01.36 | Monet_2 | I can't see any Londoner accepting that metal Kaiju-snake. |
| 19:01.53 | Monet_2 | https://cdn.sqexeu.com/mtl/marketing/DXSite/Blackpool_Cities_of_2029_DXMD.jpg this is Blackpool apparently |
| 19:02.00 | Imperios | Monet_2: What if this snake is actually some futuristic council house |
| 19:02.15 | Monet_2 | Imperios: Mother of all... |
| 19:02.16 | OluapPlayer | A snake that big doesn't have to follow orders |
| 19:02.46 | Imperios | Home to cyberpunk cyborg chavs |
| 19:02.56 | Monet_2 | https://cdn.sqexeu.com/mtl/marketing/DXSite/Paris_Cities_of_2029_DXMD.jpg Seem by 2029 someone decided to TP the Eiffel Tower. |
| 19:03.54 | Imperios | http://cdn2.alphr.com/sites/alphr/files/styles/gallery_adv/public/2016/08/dxmd_image_moscow_cities_of_2029_dxmd_02_1470131476.08.2016.jpg?itok=lfvQlP0E Ohgod OMONbots |
| 19:04.01 | Monet_2 | https://cdn.sqexeu.com/mtl/marketing/DXSite/Barcelona_Cities_of_2029_DXMD.jpg Meanwhile in Barcelona La Sagrada Familia is still not bloody finished XD |
| 19:04.20 | Imperios | Gaudi - BECAUSE FUCK YOU THAT'S WHY |
| 19:04.36 | Imperios | Where is all that from? |
| 19:04.59 | Monet_2 | https://www.deusex.com/news/cities-2029 here |
| 19:05.01 | Imperios | Also these street protesters look a bit too punky for Russia |
| 19:05.08 | Monet_2 | This is how the world will look in Mankind Divided |
| 19:05.36 | Monet_2 | https://cdn.sqexeu.com/mtl/marketing/DXSite/Stockholm_Cities_of_2029_DXMD.jpg and of course Stockholm looks like a millionaire designer's wet dream. |
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| 19:07.32 | Monet_2 | https://cdn.sqexeu.com/mtl/marketing/DXSite/Rio_Cities_of_2029_DXMD.jpg Meanwhile in Rio |
| 19:07.57 | Monet_2 | Brazilians decide to build a whole new city bridging the mountains. |
| 19:08.01 | OluapPlayer | It's growing an exoskeleton |
| 19:08.12 | Imperios | Also looking at Moscow |
| 19:08.27 | Imperios | Is that Moskva-City spreading itself into the Red Square |
| 19:08.45 | Imperios | Monet_2_: It looks like Valencia actually |
| 19:09.01 | Monet_2 | Russia's oligarchs need more office space. |
| 19:09.06 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Rio is evolving into a Tyranid |
| 19:09.29 | Imperios | Monet_2: It's like this http://view-photo.ru/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/DSC09756.jpg part of Moscow spread into the city's center |
| 19:10.03 | Monet_2 | I wouldn't be surprised if the oligarch community went crazy during the aug revolution. |
| 19:10.21 | Imperios | It generally feels like skyscrapers are some sort of alien entities corrupting everything |
| 19:10.29 | Imperios | In most pictures |
| 19:11.01 | Monet_2 | Meanwhile Liverpool looks like nothing much has changed. |
| 19:11.52 | Monet_2 | Imperios: In Deus Ex lore, by 2051 companies almost take the place of countries. |
| 19:12.05 | Monet_2 | It's a future where the corporations rule. |
| 19:12.24 | Imperios | Monet_2: The Empire of Gazprom and Lukoil |
| 19:12.28 | Monet_2 | And we all now how much big corporations like their giant glass phalli. |
| 19:12.33 | NeonPanda | aka average dystopian cyberpunk :P |
| 19:12.43 | Imperios | Are oil and gas still valuable in Deux Ex?\ |
| 19:13.11 | Monet_2 | I think so. |
| 19:13.28 | Monet_2 | Although prices would be sky-high because of peak oil or something. |
| 19:15.08 | Monet_2 | I can imagine Russia trying its very hardest to keep its oil industry alive |
| 19:15.21 | Monet_2 | In the Deus Ex universe. |
| 19:15.58 | Monet_2 | https://cdn.sqexeu.com/mtl/marketing/DXSite/Sydney_Cities_of_2029_DXMD.jpg Sydney doesn't look...*too* bad |
| 19:16.22 | Xho | much |
| 19:16.28 | NeonPanda | shoots self |
| 19:16.34 | Monet_2 | At least it's not overrun with giant crystal penisis. |
| 19:16.48 | Imperios | > Although prices would be sky-high because of peak oil or something. |
| 19:16.48 | DrodoEmpire | Why does every single damn cyberpunk city have to be perpetually overcast and in darkness? |
| 19:16.50 | DrodoEmpire | >. |
| 19:16.53 | NeonPanda | no, but we drew the short end of the stick AGAIN |
| 19:16.53 | DrodoEmpire | *>.< |
| 19:16.54 | Imperios | That'd be *good* for us |
| 19:16.58 | NeonPanda | DrodoEmpire: Because Cyberpunk |
| 19:17.00 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Noir |
| 19:17.07 | Monet_2 | Because Blade Runner. |
| 19:17.08 | DrodoEmpire | Right... :p |
| 19:17.12 | NeonPanda | if it's not all dark and gritty, the bright shining lights won't stand out |
| 19:17.17 | NeonPanda | cyberpunk is a genre of contradictions |
| 19:17.30 | DrodoEmpire | I'm generally not a fan of cyberpunk tbh |
| 19:17.41 | NeonPanda | well I am so nyeh *sticks tongue out* |
| 19:18.29 | DrodoEmpire | Uh huh |
| 19:19.03 | Monet_2 | NeonPanda: I do get confused. Australia's probably the richest country in the southern hemisphere yet in every cyberpunk it's lumped in with the rest of Asia in regards to standard of living. |
| 19:19.24 | NeonPanda | Monet_2: two words: Mad Max |
| 19:19.54 | NeonPanda | the idea of Australia *not* being some Road Warrior-esque wildlands at the bottom end of society just does not compute |
| 19:19.56 | Monet_2 | Oh that |
| 19:20.09 | Monet_2 | But...Sydney. |
| 19:20.31 | Monet_2 | Something like the Opera House is -not- cheap. |
| 19:20.31 | NeonPanda | and you expect the average American to realise that? :P |
| 19:20.42 | Imperios | Monet_2: Maybe the mass migration kind of lowered its life quality in the future? |
| 19:20.57 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Polar_Crystal_Alliance/Most_Wanted#The_List trying out a new layout here |
| 19:20.58 | NeonPanda | tbh Brisbane basically already is a cyberpunk city, just needs more overcastness and some neon |
| 19:20.59 | Imperios | Australia is very right-wing AFAIK; if life quality in parts of Asia dropped |
| 19:21.09 | Imperios | Lots of people from it would move to Australia |
| 19:21.21 | Imperios | Its right-wing movement would snap and begin doing something crazy |
| 19:21.23 | NeonPanda | Imperios: We're a move to and move the fuck back out of kinda country |
| 19:21.36 | Imperios | Plunging the country into chaos |
| 19:21.36 | Monet_2 | Could be everyone's abandoning the desert-y parts of the country because of climate change or something. |
| 19:21.43 | Imperios | That too |
| 19:21.43 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah mass-migration can seriously damage a country for sure |
| 19:21.53 | NeonPanda | like yeah we do have a lot of immigration, but most of it's not permanent, it's a lot of tourism and students |
| 19:22.07 | NeonPanda | Monet_2: almost nobody lives in the outback anyway, so that's not a change |
| 19:22.20 | Imperios | NeonPanda: Isn't that because you have a very right-wing and anti-immigration government? |
| 19:22.41 | Monet_2 | Deus Ex does look at climate change, so I can imagine the Outback going from "like the Savanna but more fire" to "Basically the Atakama Desert" |
| 19:22.54 | NeonPanda | not really, it's because we have a really good and cheap education system but not much by way of work options |
| 19:23.10 | NeonPanda | Monet_2: We're already the Sahara :P |
| 19:23.25 | Quark8 | OluapPlayer: The page is good so far and the layout is neat and informative. |
| 19:23.26 | NeonPanda | and I say that literally, the central outback is comparable to the Sahara in terms of climate |
| 19:23.33 | OluapPlayer | Thank you |
| 19:24.04 | Monet_2 | The Atakama makes the Sahara look like a holiday destination though. |
| 19:24.13 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Ohgod that looks cool |
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| 19:24.52 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 19:25.11 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 19:25.50 | OluapPlayer | Making portraits for every character is gonna be time-consuming |
| 19:27.07 | Xho | 4 wat |
| 19:27.21 | OluapPlayer | Literally read above dingus |
| 19:27.41 | Monet_2 | What about adding bounty sums. |
| 19:27.59 | NeonPanda | did some research, the Atacama is actually relatively cold as deserts go- it's notable for being the driest hot desert in the world, but it's not that hot |
| 19:28.02 | Xho | icy |
| 19:28.13 | OluapPlayer | I wouldn't know values for each |
| 19:28.27 | OluapPlayer | I remember the very first version of the page had bounties but they were silly huge numbers |
| 19:28.29 | Monet_2 | Not hot, just so inhospitable that nothing can survive there |
| 19:29.03 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: What's wrong with huge numbers if it makes sense in the contexT? |
| 19:29.20 | OluapPlayer | Because they don't make sense in context |
| 19:29.28 | OluapPlayer | I don't want to put unrealistically huge numbers again |
| 19:29.40 | Monet_2 | Could keep to billions of borealis credits. |
| 19:29.56 | Imperios | Maybe a single Borealis credit is worth a lot |
| 19:30.05 | Imperios | I mean compare Korean wons with dollars |
| 19:30.07 | Imperios | Or pounds |
| 19:30.16 | Imperios | So million BC is a lot |
| 19:30.22 | Imperios | Like REALLY a lolt |
| 19:30.23 | NeonPanda | Monet_2: Nothing is an exaggeration, but I get your point. Still, not much further Australia can go in terms of climate fuckery short of the inland sea reforming |
| 19:30.42 | OluapPlayer | I'm not sure about that. I'd rather not turn Borealis credits into potential dickwaving material |
| 19:30.52 | Monet_2 | Was about to say |
| 19:31.19 | Monet_2 | People could start arguments over how high their character's bounty is. |
| 19:31.32 | Monet_2 | or how high their favourite character's bounty should be |
| 19:31.34 | Xho | Maknagrius - dunt need dik GOT HUGE-ASS TAIL BRUH |
| 19:31.50 | OluapPlayer | I'm more about "why is oluap's money so precious" |
| 19:31.51 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: That currency - that is a single coin - is expensive means nothing in terms of actual economy |
| 19:31.55 | Monet_2 | NeonPanda: Fair enough. |
| 19:32.01 | Imperios | The Australian dollar is worth 846 Korean wons |
| 19:32.19 | Imperios | And yet South Korea and Australia are more or less equally economically powerful |
| 19:32.52 | Monet_2 | The quantity of a specific currency means nothing without factoring in its purchasing power |
| 19:33.19 | Imperios | Actually South Korea has more GDP than Australia |
| 19:33.23 | OluapPlayer | I am definitely not good at economy |
| 19:33.24 | NeonPanda | anyway, back on the original point, a more realistic expectation of what cyberpunk Australia would be is super-concentrated corporate city centres (and I mean could walk from one side to another in like two hours tops) surrounded by corporate-run suburbs, then everything else being lawless wasteland |
| 19:33.39 | Imperios | Despite its currency being worthless |
| 19:33.52 | Imperios | When viewed individually that is |
| 19:33.55 | Monet_2 | OluapPlayer: You've got us here on the IRC to help. |
| 19:34.07 | OluapPlayer | I guess |
| 19:34.19 | OluapPlayer | Also Maknagrius's description is brief on purpose |
| 19:34.25 | OluapPlayer | Can't get much worse than what is written there |
| 19:34.34 | Imperios | Because too mysterious? |
| 19:34.44 | Monet_2 | "he likes sitting on people's cakes" |
| 19:34.46 | OluapPlayer | >Leading figure of the Dominion of the Xhodocto |
| 19:35.04 | Monet_2 | NeonPanda: Much better, yeah. |
| 19:35.08 | Imperios | One Borealis credit may be worth a lot, but obviously people would receive less in Borealis credits than in, say, Cyrannian credits |
| 19:35.10 | OluapPlayer | Does it need more explanation on why he's the most wanted man in Borealis? |
| 19:35.53 | Imperios | The real factor determining how "good" currency is is its stability |
| 19:36.21 | Monet_2 | As for Future London hmm...The City and Canary Wharf would be all half-mile tall glass penises. Everywhere else, run-down Georgian townhouses. And lots of shanty towns because no one can afford a house in London unless you're a banker or a broker. |
| 19:36.21 | NeonPanda | taking brisbane for example, I could easily see Queen Street Mall becoming a megacomplex, the corporate skyscrapers surrounding it getting even bigger, and the wanky suburbs on the south side would still be wanky suburbs, just full of corps |
| 19:36.47 | Imperios | If its worth is consistent it is safe to use it because there is no fear that the money you got by selling a house yesterday will be worth just enough to buy an apple today |
| 19:36.49 | Hachiman | I'm no good at economy either |
| 19:37.05 | Hachiman | I'd just go with doing it like how the Japanese use yen |
| 19:37.13 | Imperios | Have you heard of the hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic or Zimbabwe? |
| 19:37.19 | Xho | OluapPlayer: "yes" - Nu, 2816 |
| 19:37.19 | OluapPlayer | 10000 ching chongs |
| 19:37.37 | OluapPlayer | "opinion discarded" - Universe, all the time |
| 19:37.43 | Hachiman | op onion |
| 19:37.43 | Monet_2 | I suppose West London remains posh like it is now, and East London looks like Glasgow. |
| 19:38.02 | Xho | Santorakh - "I AM ONION, I MAKE GALAXIES CRY" |
| 19:38.43 | Imperios | Saint-Petersburg has just sunk because of climate change |
| 19:38.47 | OluapPlayer | Still half of the list is Loron |
| 19:38.51 | OluapPlayer | make that of what you will |
| 19:38.59 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: I bet they see it as a point of pride |
| 19:39.14 | Hachiman | Sounds like police racial prejudice to me |
| 19:39.15 | Monet_2 | Like Chavs with ASBOs |
| 19:39.20 | NeonPanda | oh yeah that'd be the other thing; if the sea level rises by a couple metres, Australia is now an island chain |
| 19:39.20 | Hachiman | #LoronLivesMatter |
| 19:39.42 | OluapPlayer | I imagine so |
| 19:39.53 | Monet_2 | Imperios NeonPanda: While London becomes Atlantis. |
| 19:39.57 | OluapPlayer | I also imagine Fre'kloar being mad because he's just C-Class and not A-Class |
| 19:40.15 | OluapPlayer | Granted, being "just" C-Class means he's seen as a threat to the entire sector where he operates |
| 19:40.26 | Imperios | NeonPanda: The Mate Islesa |
| 19:40.29 | NeonPanda | fortunately the inner city of brisbane is just high enough above sea level that it's out of immediate danger |
| 19:40.29 | Imperios | *The Mate Isles |
| 19:40.34 | Hachiman | Huh must have missed that he was a C-Class hero |
| 19:40.43 | Hachiman | I mean criminal |
| 19:40.48 | OluapPlayer | >hero |
| 19:40.50 | OluapPlayer | dis isnt dota 2 |
| 19:40.53 | Monet_2 | Whish I could say the same for London. |
| 19:41.11 | Monet_2 | If the Thames floods, the richest part of London is fucked. |
| 19:41.15 | Hachiman | I probably said hero because the A-B-C Class thing is used in One-Punch Man hur |
| 19:41.15 | Imperios | >champiom |
| 19:41.20 | Imperios | *champion |
| 19:43.19 | Monet_2 | So if London drowns I see pros and cons: Pro: All the bankers drown, the city becomes Atlantis Con: No one can travel anywehre because the Underground is flooded, the best parts of the city are underwater, the economy will be crippled, and whatever crap is in the Thames spills into all the best parts of London (although that could als obe a pro) |
| 19:44.08 | DrodoEmpire | Well |
| 19:44.23 | DrodoEmpire | Whatever crap's in the Thames is more than likely to be 80% actual crap |
| 19:44.27 | DrodoEmpire | Let's be honest |
| 19:44.58 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: You reminded me of one incident with friends we had on Navy Day |
| 19:45.08 | Monet_2 | It's best not to speculate what flows under the surface of the Thames. |
| 19:45.32 | DrodoEmpire | Oh dear |
| 19:46.04 | Monet_2 | It's not as bad as it once was. |
| 19:46.17 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah true |
| 19:46.42 | Monet_2 | Just best to not concern yourself with what's in it. Although I think most London water comes from upstream. |
| 19:47.12 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: So we walked by the Palace Square and we stumbled on a rather large mobile public toilet |
| 19:47.18 | Imperios | Which was basically a large truck |
| 19:47.22 | Imperios | With a toilet inside |
| 19:47.25 | DrodoEmpire | Okay |
| 19:47.36 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/aYxpVbE |
| 19:47.58 | Imperios | Then later on we walked to the Neva and one of my friends suggested to dip our feet in the embankment |
| 19:48.05 | Imperios | (the Neva being the local river) |
| 19:48.24 | DrodoEmpire | Alright |
| 19:48.48 | Imperios | I said "Well, remember the truck? Where do you think it dumps its contents?" |
| 19:49.06 | Imperios | We then decided to move on |
| 19:49.22 | Monet_2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:49.44 | DrodoEmpire | Augh gross |
| 19:49.45 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 19:49.47 | Wormy_ | If you ever wondered how snails eat worms, there you go http://imgur.com/gallery/lYm9ZIU |
| 19:50.29 | Monet_2 | There was one comedy years ago where a romantic boating proposal was offset by one character's suggestion of "aye but where do you think all the rats go to the toilet?" |
| 19:50.42 | Monet_2 | "you don't see any tiny loos all along the bank do you?" |
| 19:51.18 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 19:51.29 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Not gross, just Russia |
| 19:51.37 | DrodoEmpire | Right... |
| 19:51.50 | Monet_2 | Although in this case I think the show was set in somewhere like Newcastle. And generally the sort of area where the local youths would use the Tyne as a urinal. |
| 19:51.53 | Imperios | We did not actually dip our feet in the river obviously |
| 19:52.06 | Imperios | Even not taking waste into account, it is fucking toxic |
| 19:52.11 | Imperios | As toxic as the LoL community |
| 19:52.55 | Monet_2 | Dip you toes in the Neva and tell your friends you're related to Emil Blonsky. |
| 19:53.16 | Xho | submerge toes, emerge fingers |
| 19:53.48 | Imperios | Well it's not *that* bad |
| 19:53.55 | Imperios | I drowned in Neva at least twice |
| 19:54.04 | Imperios | Well not Neva but its smaller tributaries |
| 19:54.50 | Imperios | Which are probably much cleaner |
| 19:54.53 | Monet_2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.41 | Hachiman | CYKA |
| 19:55.51 | Hachiman | Imperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Sylit I did some more work |
| 19:56.04 | Imperios | No that'd be a Russian falling into the Moscow River |
| 19:56.20 | Imperios | Petersburgians are more civilised than that |
| 19:56.20 | Hachiman | Also Cyrannian: I'd like to nominate War of Cleansing by yourself and Oluap and Dragostea's page by myself |
| 19:56.31 | Imperios | We'd be "Blyat, I sayman" |
| 19:56.52 | Imperios | Hachiman: I look at the additions and the first word I come upon is "aroused" |
| 19:57.03 | Hachiman | Fuck you hur |
| 19:57.06 | Imperios | hur |
| 19:57.33 | Hachiman | I also added a bit of stuff about Cycklos |
| 19:57.34 | Imperios | Okay hemipenes aside |
| 19:57.39 | Imperios | 'Their diet consists primarily of meats and insects, although they can also draw beneficial nutrients and elements from consuming ore, soil, and rock" |
| 19:57.45 | Imperios | That's actually kind of interesting |
| 19:57.56 | Imperios | Remember the edible clays we talkeda bout? |
| 19:58.04 | Hachiman | That's exactly where I got the idea from |
| 19:58.19 | Imperios | "esper" |
| 19:58.24 | Imperios | I like that word |
| 19:58.33 | Hachiman | Yes, Sylit Essence users are called espers hur |
| 19:58.43 | Imperios | I do not know where it comes from but I like it |
| 19:58.48 | Hachiman | And Firebrands are like Sylit psycho-supersoldiers |
| 19:58.55 | Monet_2 | Imperios: I'm guessing the Moscow river is considered a biohazard. |
| 19:58.58 | Hachiman | Not psycho as in psychopathic but |
| 19:59.03 | Hachiman | Psycho as in, well, psychic |
| 19:59.07 | Cyrannian | Very impressive work on the Sylit, good to see them back |
| 19:59.12 | Hachiman | Thanks cyr |
| 19:59.29 | Imperios | Monet_2: Probably not too different from Thames |
| 20:00.50 | Monet_2 | Hmm |
| 20:00.59 | Xho | Kicath - >not psycho = not good enough get crazy pls |
| 20:01.08 | Imperios | This reminds me |
| 20:01.29 | Imperios | Once I am done with Sanctuarium, I wonder if I could work on other Radeon worlds |
| 20:01.41 | Hachiman | I imagine they have a lot of worlds |
| 20:01.55 | Hachiman | Perhaps too many to work on |
| 20:01.55 | OluapPlayer | werk on alhahu ackabrs |
| 20:02.03 | Monet_2 | Maybe the other Radeon Heartworlds? |
| 20:03.31 | Xho | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/cf/KicathHeadRender.png/revision/latest?cb=20160802163936 u lot see updated ugly |
| 20:03.33 | Xho | got even uglier |
| 20:03.41 | Hachiman | looks ugly |
| 20:03.46 | OluapPlayer | Would it make any sense to include Zargoth and the Rogue Geek to the Most Wanted? |
| 20:03.51 | OluapPlayer | One's a demon god and the other is an AI |
| 20:03.54 | Xho | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/71/AlphaKicathRender.png/revision/latest?cb=20160802171248 and alpha ugly |
| 20:04.08 | Monet_2 | Rogue Geek would make sense |
| 20:04.33 | OluapPlayer | I mean I guess you could give a reward for destroying the Loron's AI systems |
| 20:04.57 | Imperios | Hachiman: The important ones I mean |
| 20:05.01 | DrodoEmpire | OluapPlayer: I might not include him now, but a possible future candidate for this list would be Kyada |
| 20:05.08 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/QsZpi |
| 20:05.15 | Imperios | I kind of imagined there being several "heartworlds", as Monet has noticed, that are like the focal points of Radeon culture |
| 20:05.16 | OluapPlayer | u dont include anything, only i do m8 |
| 20:05.23 | OluapPlayer | But yes he's a potential C-Class |
| 20:05.38 | DrodoEmpire | Right, right |
| 20:05.43 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: But Radeons are *also* Allahu Akbars |
| 20:05.53 | OluapPlayer | wrong allahus |
| 20:06.01 | DrodoEmpire | Speaking of which I need to dig up that draft I had for Viran and finish it |
| 20:06.02 | Hachiman | allahuhuhu |
| 20:06.30 | DrodoEmpire | Jiha-ha-had...? |
| 20:06.52 | OluapPlayer | Guess I'll add the Rogue Geek then |
| 20:06.57 | OluapPlayer | as weird as that sounds in my head |
| 20:07.40 | Wormy_ | #adultlife http://imgur.com/gallery/oDIwJ |
| 20:07.44 | Hachiman | I occasionally read "Rogue Geek" as "Rogue Greek" |
| 20:07.51 | Monet_2 | I'm cureious if Valersion would make the grade but he's been fairly low-profile so far. |
| 20:08.04 | Monet_2 | Most of what he's done has been outside of stories. |
| 20:08.13 | OluapPlayer | He kidnapped Xeron and Xerkea made sure to make his existence known |
| 20:08.19 | OluapPlayer | So he's probably C-Class material |
| 20:09.14 | Monet_2 | He's probably more threatening to the galactic economy than galactic society itself so fair enough. Seems reasonable. |
| 20:09.36 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: dat pic of traz'raka |
| 20:09.40 | Hachiman | I imagine he'd be mad that Lil' Homie is not in the picture |
| 20:10.00 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 20:12.14 | OluapPlayer | Arkarixus - yeah well lil homie is a z-class eat shit |
| 20:12.51 | Hachiman | Traz'raka - ;A; |
| 20:13.00 | Hachiman | Lil' Homie - ;O; |
| 20:14.44 | Monet_2 | Actually not being higher despite his large underworld presence makes a lot of sense. |
| 20:16.35 | Monet_2 | 1) Kidnapping Xeron's the worst he's done and that is slightly out of character, 2) Any lawyer will tell you that successfully convicting someone of white-collar crime white-collar crime is an absolute *assload* of an endeavour. |
| 20:17.26 | OluapPlayer | Xerkea - bitch he kidnapped a leader of the galaxy |
| 20:18.49 | Monet_2 | Valersion - but that's really all I did, as my sixty lawyers can prove to you. |
| 20:19.26 | OluapPlayer | Xerkea - like i care for your lawyers they're probably demons too |
| 20:19.53 | OluapPlayer | That being said the PCA would not take his word or that of his supporters into any consideration |
| 20:20.49 | OluapPlayer | "you shot the president" "hey it could be worse, i could've shot him twice" |
| 20:20.53 | Hachiman | olol |
| 20:20.55 | Hachiman | Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzJDimvPW1Y |
| 20:22.02 | Xho | dank souls m8 |
| 20:22.21 | Hachiman | \[T]/ |
| 20:22.48 | Monet_2 | OluapPLayer: Bit of a taint on the justice system but I can understand why they'd do that. |
| 20:23.24 | OluapPlayer | I don't see how |
| 20:23.58 | OluapPlayer | Imagine Uriel being kidnapped, and the kidnapper going "oh you can't arrest me for that, I have laywers" |
| 20:24.01 | OluapPlayer | lawyers even |
| 20:24.20 | Monet_2 | What I meant was all that kidnapping stuff, sure they'd lock hi mup and throw away the key. |
| 20:24.25 | Imperios | Competent lawyers that can sway the public and use various legal loopholes |
| 20:24.26 | Hachiman | I mean, to be fair, Borealan justice is a bit more "cowboy justice" than it is "court justice" |
| 20:24.30 | Imperios | That too |
| 20:24.39 | *** join/#sporewiki lukosa (4d31b7ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.49.183.255) |
| 20:25.12 | Monet_2 | For everything else he's done, not so easy to convict him - Al Capone spent a few years practically running Chicago and the only thing he was convicted for was tax evasion. |
| 20:25.29 | Hachiman | To be fair, Capone had the money to corrupt people |
| 20:25.39 | OluapPlayer | Well yeah, if you're a part of the Most Wanted, you're either gonna be executed or be forced to spend eternity at Exile Station |
| 20:25.39 | Hachiman | And people that were willing to be corrupted# |
| 20:25.46 | OluapPlayer | because you're that bad and you deserve that |
| 20:26.05 | Monet_2 | Hachiman: Exactly. |
| 20:26.35 | Hachiman | PCA has individuals in their forces who have proven to be incorruptible however |
| 20:27.25 | Imperios | Charles_Bot: I am not sure if I should ask you or Tybusen but... is there any particular reason Taiwan still keeps its Guomindang-centric state symbols? |
| 20:27.33 | Imperios | The flag, the emblem, the anthem, etc |
| 20:27.34 | Monet_2 | What's to say with all his underworld connections, that Valserion doesn't have a few links that make hi ma little harder for the Niaka to find. |
| 20:27.58 | Monet_2 | Maybe not the Special Forces themselves. No. |
| 20:28.01 | lukosa | hey guys. So i had this idea(I don't know if anyone else done it) To create like small comic sneak peeks for my characters in order to show some of their feelings and relations. I have made two by now so if you would like to see them and give me feedback i will send the links of the two characters. You may have to zoom the pictures :P http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Achrion_Verkaris#Relationships |
| 20:28.03 | Imperios | They aren't a one-party state anymore, there is now a huge opposition to the Guomingdan |
| 20:28.04 | lukosa | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Erasminia_Markedion |
| 20:28.04 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: "Well for that answer we're going to have to start with the Song Dynasty" - Charles with every political question ever <.< |
| 20:28.17 | DrodoEmpire | Monet_2: Yeah I figure these people've done things so bad their guilt is beyond dispute |
| 20:28.30 | Charles_Bot | DrodoEmpire: Actually not this time |
| 20:28.34 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 20:28.46 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Exactly, he is the only person whose walls of text are bigger than mine |
| 20:28.49 | Imperios | And I respect him for that |
| 20:28.55 | DrodoEmpire | Right XD |
| 20:29.05 | Charles_Bot | Revolutions are convenient because they introduce a break in history, a new starting point beyond which everything is reinvented |
| 20:29.39 | lukosa | did anyone see my message? cause there is plenty of messages and i dont know :P |
| 20:29.45 | DrodoEmpire | That and that Borealis' justice system is less corruptable courtrooms and more instant-if-arbitrary county sheriffs keeping the peace >.> |
| 20:30.03 | Imperios | Yes but I mean if you look at the PRC you see that they no longer see old Chinese history in such a bad light as before |
| 20:30.16 | DrodoEmpire | lukosa: I'll have to take a look |
| 20:30.27 | Cyrannian | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/dc/CyraFedMap.png/revision/latest?cb=20160802202904 - Take a look, new map |
| 20:30.30 | Charles_Bot | Imperios: Because nationalist China was recognized by the international community as the legitimate government of China until 1971, and derives its legitimacy from being direct a continuation of that government |
| 20:30.31 | Imperios | Because for many in China, their beliefs and ways of life are what strengthened their economy |
| 20:30.37 | DrodoEmpire | Its a good idea to link new fictions, though sometimes stuff gets lost in the discussion |
| 20:31.09 | Charles_Bot | Any step in adopting a distinctly Taiwanese symbolic dictionary would be a step towards accepting the fact that they're just an island, not all of China |
| 20:31.17 | Imperios | Charles_Bot: But it has very little legitimacy as it stands now |
| 20:31.21 | Imperios | Oh well that's fair |
| 20:31.33 | OluapPlayer | Cyrannian: Very nice waptor |
| 20:31.42 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah its in Taiwan's best interest not to adopt a Taiwanese identity, but to insist on being the true China |
| 20:31.47 | Monet_2 | Taiwan wants to maintain that it is the rightful government of China. |
| 20:31.54 | Imperios | I was actually talking more about ROC symbols before the Guomingdan took over |
| 20:31.59 | OluapPlayer | I see T-rexes and Spinos squeezing against each other |
| 20:32.01 | DrodoEmpire | Also I'm very pro-Taiwan and I do believe they're the legitimate govt. :p |
| 20:32.31 | Imperios | PRC best economy in the world |
| 20:32.37 | Imperios | All other economies are run by little girls |
| 20:32.45 | Hachiman | >T-rexes and Spinos squeezing against each other |
| 20:32.45 | Hachiman | Very passionate |
| 20:32.52 | Imperios | I can't see Taiwan ever succeeding |
| 20:33.06 | Charles_Bot | Imperios: Again, those symbols are imply legitimacy over China and a history which they have claim over |
| 20:33.08 | Imperios | Frankly I do not wish another war on China |
| 20:33.11 | Monet_2 | They don't want ot admit defeat though |
| 20:33.33 | Charles_Bot | They held China's veto on the UNSC until 1971 lol |
| 20:33.42 | Imperios | Charles_Bot: So essentially Taiwan is facing a dilemma: they cannot be more legitimate or less legitimate |
| 20:33.48 | Charles_Bot | It's not as long-gone as you think |
| 20:33.54 | Imperios | All they can do is maintaining status quo |
| 20:34.03 | Hachiman | Also, that is a very nice and stylish map |
| 20:34.13 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: I can't see how the CPC is less legitimate |
| 20:34.28 | Imperios | Post-Cultural Revolution it has done a good job at improving the country |
| 20:35.08 | Monet_2 | But they started as rebels. |
| 20:35.25 | Imperios | Monet_2: Well so did all parties in China |
| 20:35.40 | Imperios | All of them rebelled against the Huangdi so they're all equally (il)legitimate |
| 20:35.46 | Imperios | *the Qing |
| 20:36.04 | Imperios | I mean the CPC isn't perfect but frankly with a country that large and a population that huge, one cannot allow a minarchic government |
| 20:36.20 | Imperios | Look at India; if not for an authoritarian apparatus, China would have been like it |
| 20:36.22 | Imperios | Or like Russia |
| 20:36.25 | Charles_Bot | Imperios: As I understand it, yes |
| 20:36.45 | Imperios | Cyrannian: "Sublime Tyranny" |
| 20:36.57 | Wormy_ | Cyrannian: Looks like a really good design, would look great on glossy paper |
| 20:36.59 | Imperios | All I can imagine is Stalin in frilly dress |
| 20:37.20 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Polar_Crystal_Alliance/Most_Wanted page is done |
| 20:37.33 | Imperios | Also Orbispira is tiny |
| 20:37.39 | Imperios | So tiny it feels irrelevant |
| 20:38.00 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: The ROC was the proper successor of the Qing- at least as proper as a successor could be given the circumstances |
| 20:38.28 | DrodoEmpire | The communists got the upper hand in a civil war- they have legitimacy because they're authoritarian and the world economy depends on their production power |
| 20:38.47 | DrodoEmpire | *they're authoritarian to their people |
| 20:39.01 | DrodoEmpire | I'd much prefer the democratic government, needless to say :p |
| 20:39.05 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: For me, the proper successors are those who can properly maintain their power and improve the country and maintain its sovereignty |
| 20:39.11 | Imperios | *,improve the country |
| 20:39.51 | DrodoEmpire | Right, but the 'improvements' china's seen have come at the cost of millions of lives and the freedoms of its people |
| 20:40.00 | Imperios | You know, if Guomingdan could have accomplished all that, Taiwan would just have been called "China" hur |
| 20:40.14 | Imperios | Indeed that is terrifying, but look at the alternatives |
| 20:40.26 | Imperios | It took dictators to get things right in East Asia |
| 20:40.30 | Imperios | In all developing countries in fact |
| 20:40.48 | DrodoEmpire | You know, the ROC was also involved in pretty much nonstop political conflict since its inception and the communists took advantage of that weakness to gain power |
| 20:40.50 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 20:40.55 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: Looking at the list of Previously Wanted, Dolgan is seriously lucky |
| 20:41.00 | Imperios | The same problem as the White Movement |
| 20:41.03 | OluapPlayer | She is |
| 20:41.15 | Imperios | They couldn't unite |
| 20:41.24 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not going to deny the fact that China's seen good industrialisation |
| 20:41.25 | Imperios | And that was bad because a disunited country is a failed country |
| 20:41.28 | Cyrannian | Imperios: Orbispira founded the CyraFed and though it was the capital, their republic was not particularly interested in territorial expansion |
| 20:41.30 | DrodoEmpire | But you know what? |
| 20:41.47 | OluapPlayer | Can you all take it to the other channel? People are trying to discuss fiction |
| 20:41.51 | Imperios | aight |
| 20:41.54 | DrodoEmpire | Good point yeah |
| 20:42.48 | OluapPlayer | Anyway I couldn't add all of the list in the end. Namely the Guild of Shadows is missing because I couldn't make portraits for them |
| 20:42.57 | OluapPlayer | And I'm not gonna leave the pics inconsistent |
| 20:43.21 | Hachiman | That's fair enough |
| 20:44.34 | OluapPlayer | Also realized I could add Old Fang and her crew, but I'll wait until their existence in Borealis is actually known |
| 20:44.56 | Monet_2 | I was thinking to myself Valserion's PNG might be missing fro mthe wiki. |
| 20:45.16 | OluapPlayer | It is |
| 20:46.00 | OluapPlayer | Cyrannian: Also just realized, Xarn could be in that list if you'd like |
| 20:46.53 | Cyrannian | That would make sense |
| 20:46.55 | Hachiman | Oh I forgot about Xarn |
| 20:47.08 | Hachiman | Didn't he retreat to the Milky Way or something? |
| 20:47.45 | OluapPlayer | He did but the PCA would still like to shove a couple of guns up his bumhole in the event he comes back |
| 20:48.30 | Hachiman | Ah so he's still legible for the list |
| 20:49.01 | OluapPlayer | Of course. You're legible if you're both 1) alive 2) not dealt with |
| 20:49.23 | Monet_2 | I still love Chi's model |
| 20:50.14 | Xho | Angazhar - i dont mortals dum |
| 20:55.11 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Polar_Crystal_Alliance/Most_Wanted#C-Class_-_Threat_to_Local_Society two more |
| 20:56.24 | Xho | loadsa criminals |
| 20:56.41 | Hachiman | loadsa bounties |
| 20:56.56 | Xho | The only probable candidate I have for a criminal is Mad'Hatta |
| 20:57.15 | Hachiman | Mad'Hatta's not been active in Borealis if I recall |
| 20:57.23 | Monet_2 | What about Nai'ar Natl? |
| 20:57.36 | OluapPlayer | The PCA isn't aware of Mad'Hatta |
| 20:57.53 | OluapPlayer | And Acolyte Dood is dead as far as they're aware |
| 20:58.28 | Xho | Acolyte Dood - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBXVYM4zlDg |
| 21:00.22 | Monet_2 | Arsac - Suks to be you. |
| 21:03.19 | OluapPlayer | Just wish Jo was here so she could see this |
| 21:03.21 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: wake up pls |
| 21:03.47 | Cyrannian | Xarn - im so proud of myself |
| 21:04.07 | OluapPlayer | All Eaglartin - #rude |
| 21:04.50 | Imperios | Cyrannian: How powerful was Orbispira though? |
| 21:05.12 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_legendary HALP |
| 21:05.32 | OluapPlayer | "mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm" |
| 21:05.34 | OluapPlayer | My sentiments precisely |
| 21:05.49 | Xho | I just get reminded of Scout imitating Pyro |
| 21:06.01 | OluapPlayer | 90003404756737487374689648274847283479689729485789245192794276456654570245.1 stars |
| 21:06.07 | OluapPlayer | That's about as much as 3 moths |
| 21:06.20 | Cyrannian | Imperios: The planet was the political, cultural and economic heart of the Federation, as an interstellar state it was second only to the CSA |
| 21:06.20 | DrodoEmpire | A tenth of the star |
| 21:06.26 | OluapPlayer | Yes I like that .1 |
| 21:06.38 | OluapPlayer | It's like a star but only one little bit of it is visible |
| 21:06.39 | DrodoEmpire | Strange treaty that must've been |
| 21:07.05 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: "telliported " |
| 21:07.11 | Imperios | YA GIT |
| 21:07.21 | OluapPlayer | YOUVE COME TO STEAL ME TELLYPORTA |
| 21:08.03 | Monet_2 | I'm guessing Orbispira was a massive importer. |
| 21:09.01 | Cyrannian | Indeed, I probably should have put the galactic core on the map too, which it likely controlled |
| 21:09.29 | OluapPlayer | Grox - wat is dis shit Neraida - NO GO AWAY |
| 21:09.34 | Cyrannian | Also, 'turkeys wich killed 2000000 planats and destroyed 30 gallexes' |
| 21:09.49 | Monet_2 | It requires much of England to keep London alive And a big reason why Britain built it's empire was to make Londoners happy and rich. |
| 21:09.57 | OluapPlayer | I read that as "2000000 bananas" at first |
| 21:10.30 | Imperios | Cyrannian: Dem Erdogans |
| 21:11.08 | Hachiman | BANANA SLAMMA |
| 21:12.06 | OluapPlayer | I'LL SHOWER YOU WITH COCONUTE CREAM PIIIIE *planet buster* |
| 21:12.18 | OluapPlayer | COCONUT even |
| 21:15.22 | OluapPlayer | Well that was a convo killer |
| 21:15.24 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannian_Federation - c new introduction |
| 21:15.42 | OluapPlayer | yuy |
| 21:17.02 | OluapPlayer | I like the detail that the races were more autonomous back then |
| 21:17.06 | OluapPlayer | A contrast to how it is now |
| 21:17.11 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 21:17.13 | Imperios | Cyrannian: " members of which are often defined by their efforts to reform the Republic from a centralised government to a Federation-esque alliance of autonomous worlds." |
| 21:17.17 | Imperios | Apollo - u srs now |
| 21:17.33 | Imperios | Also, bit of advice |
| 21:18.05 | Imperios | Perhaps "President" title a bit too... powerful-sounding for the leader of the Federation? |
| 21:18.08 | Imperios | *the |
| 21:18.24 | Cyrannian | The title was Chancellor doe |
| 21:18.25 | Imperios | Perhaps the "President" title is a bit too... powerful-sounding for the leader of the Federation? |
| 21:18.36 | Imperios | Oh |
| 21:18.43 | Imperios | It still states President further down |
| 21:18.44 | Cyrannian | President Varo was only known as such once she became the first President of the URC |
| 21:19.13 | Cyrannian | Oh yes, everything below the intro is outdated |
| 21:19.46 | Cyrannian | Note how it still says 'astrology' instead of 'astrography' hur |
| 21:20.11 | Imperios | >astrology |
| 21:20.22 | Imperios | Apollo - I PREDICT THE FUTURE |
| 21:20.44 | Imperios | IMO the best title would have been "Chairman of X" |
| 21:20.48 | Monet_2 | Fun fact: Every time you say 'astrology' in stread of 'astronomy' an astronomer dies. |
| 21:20.52 | Imperios | "Chancellor" is usually used for heads of government |
| 21:21.01 | Imperios | Monet_2: As it has been predicted by the stars? |
| 21:22.03 | Imperios | Hachiman Monet_2: Suicide Squad is 36% on "Rotten Tomatoes" |
| 21:22.09 | Imperios | Now I myself consider suicide |
| 21:22.11 | Hachiman | FUCKING TOP KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 21:22.14 | Hachiman | EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK |
| 21:22.26 | Imperios | That is no laughing matter |
| 21:22.28 | Imperios | THat is sad |
| 21:22.35 | Imperios | Just plain sad |
| 21:22.36 | Monet_2 | Hehe, laughing. |
| 21:22.37 | Hachiman | It was trying too hard from the start |
| 21:22.41 | Imperios | You know what that means? |
| 21:22.46 | Imperios | We face a fucking monopoly |
| 21:22.50 | Imperios | That's terrifying |
| 21:22.53 | Imperios | We could have competition |
| 21:23.03 | Imperios | WE could have two companies fighting |
| 21:23.06 | Imperios | Instead we have nothing |
| 21:23.07 | Imperios | Nothing |
| 21:23.12 | Imperios | That is tragi |
| 21:23.13 | Imperios | v |
| 21:23.30 | OluapPlayer | Feels good to not care about movies |
| 21:23.30 | Monet_2 | Eh, we've had a good eight years. |
| 21:23.31 | Hachiman | I'm not too torn up about it considering DC's movies are shit |
| 21:23.37 | Imperios | THAT is bad |
| 21:23.42 | Imperios | We face a monopoly |
| 21:23.46 | Imperios | Marvel stands uncontested |
| 21:23.51 | Imperios | And that is horrifying |
| 21:24.00 | Hachiman | DC should just stick to animated movies - oh wait, The Killing Joke is also mediocre |
| 21:24.06 | Xho | It's got 9.3 on IMDb |
| 21:24.06 | Imperios | THAT is bad |
| 21:24.17 | Imperios | It's not the matter of them beign actually good or bad |
| 21:24.23 | Imperios | I *want* them to be good |
| 21:24.26 | Imperios | If they succeede |
| 21:24.30 | Imperios | At least one time |
| 21:24.38 | Imperios | There will be competition |
| 21:24.48 | Hachiman | Superman and Batman are boring anyway; hopefully the Wonder Woman movie will be better |
| 21:24.50 | Imperios | There will be a real challenge |
| 21:24.51 | Hachiman | I doubt it but still |
| 21:24.56 | Monet_2 | And this time we can't blame Zack Snyder. |
| 21:24.57 | Imperios | You do not understand |
| 21:24.59 | Imperios | That they fail every time |
| 21:25.03 | Imperios | Is not just DC failinf |
| 21:25.06 | Imperios | It's the whole world |
| 21:25.15 | Imperios | We cannot let Disney take over everything |
| 21:25.17 | Hachiman | How is the world responsible for DC's shit movies |
| 21:25.25 | Imperios | We NEED to have a competitor |
| 21:25.30 | Hachiman | Disney has been controlling essentially everything for years |
| 21:25.31 | Imperios | Responsible no |
| 21:25.36 | Imperios | But with every failure, control fades |
| 21:25.39 | Imperios | We have lost |
| 21:25.41 | Imperios | We ALL have lost |
| 21:25.55 | Hachiman | ... Whatever, I'll just stick to watching Marvel's not-shit movies |
| 21:26.02 | Imperios | Exactly |
| 21:26.02 | OluapPlayer | Good lord you sound like you just lost a child |
| 21:26.04 | Imperios | You have no choice |
| 21:26.08 | Imperios | We have no choice |
| 21:26.09 | Imperios | We lost |
| 21:26.11 | Imperios | We all lost |
| 21:26.23 | Monet_2 | Perhaps Episode VIII won't be as big a hit as Episode VII because we all (hopefully) know now that just because it's Star Wars doesn't make it a must-see. |
| 21:26.25 | Imperios | Finger crossed for Fox |
| 21:26.33 | Imperios | Deadpool was good after all |
| 21:26.55 | Hachiman | X-Men: Apocalypse was not all that great either |
| 21:26.57 | Monet_2 | Fox is doing okay with X-Men and co. |
| 21:27.01 | Imperios | Exactly |
| 21:27.06 | Imperios | The monopoly is growing |
| 21:27.11 | Imperios | The DC have failed us |
| 21:27.13 | Xho | It was *alright* |
| 21:27.16 | Monet_2 | I liked Apocalypse. |
| 21:27.18 | Imperios | We could have unique ways of making movies |
| 21:27.20 | Imperios | Competing |
| 21:27.22 | Hachiman | I do not get why you are so torn up about this |
| 21:27.24 | Imperios | Creating something great |
| 21:27.29 | Imperios | BECAUSE THAT IS THE BEGINNING OF THE END |
| 21:27.41 | Hachiman | We still have independent film makers doing stuff |
| 21:27.42 | Xho | They still wasted Oscar Isaac in that film |
| 21:27.42 | Imperios | The more they fail, the more monopoly grows |
| 21:27.43 | Monet_2 | Hachiman: Monopolies of genre pave the way for things becoming stale |
| 21:27.46 | Imperios | And monopoly is terrifying |
| 21:27.53 | Cyrannian | Did anyone else see Star Trek Beyond? |
| 21:27.58 | Xho | Yeah |
| 21:27.58 | Imperios | It makes things become stale |
| 21:28.00 | Hachiman | I haven't yet |
| 21:28.04 | Monet_2 | Impy also comes form a country where monopoly is a fact of life. |
| 21:28.07 | Imperios | It takes away freedom |
| 21:28.10 | Monet_2 | Cyrannian: I have. |
| 21:28.10 | Imperios | It destroys everything |
| 21:28.13 | Xho | I thought it was pretty good but I can't bring myself to liking it as much as I did the first two |
| 21:28.15 | Imperios | You laugh now |
| 21:28.21 | Imperios | But you shouldn't laugh |
| 21:28.23 | Imperios | You should cry |
| 21:28.30 | Imperios | I pray |
| 21:28.35 | Imperios | I pray that the critics are wrong this time |
| 21:28.37 | Imperios | And the public will like it |
| 21:28.41 | Hachiman | I'll only cry if I have to sit through another of DC's shit movies hur |
| 21:28.41 | Imperios | Please let it be true |
| 21:28.45 | Imperios | Let Suicide Squad suceed |
| 21:28.46 | Cyrannian | I'm the same way, I definitely enjoyed it, though slightly less so than the first two |
| 21:28.48 | Imperios | succeed |
| 21:28.50 | Imperios | Please |
| 21:29.06 | Imperios | I will have to be spoonfed the same thing over and over |
| 21:29.12 | Imperios | Just one time |
| 21:29.14 | Imperios | Let WW be good |
| 21:29.15 | Monet_2 | Imperios and I lived though the decay of WoW. Creative monopolies are painful. |
| 21:29.15 | Imperios | Please |
| 21:29.22 | Imperios | Let Justice League be good |
| 21:29.27 | Imperios | But the worst thing is |
| 21:29.31 | Xho | What about TF2 |
| 21:29.34 | Imperios | THEY ARE BEING FUCKING ASSIMILATED |
| 21:29.40 | Imperios | They now adopt Marvel's style |
| 21:29.40 | Xho | That game really is nothing but Hat Simulator now |
| 21:29.44 | Monet_2 | I'm concerned because Wonder Woman is like a female Superman. |
| 21:29.56 | Cyrannian | I'm sure it will succeed, just look at the Transformers franchise. Just because things are crap doesn't mean people aren't going to flock to it |
| 21:29.58 | Hachiman | Xho: Why do you think everyone plays Overwatch now hur |
| 21:30.01 | Imperios | What's the point of it if everything is stale |
| 21:30.02 | OluapPlayer | TF2 has huge competition with Overwatch |
| 21:30.05 | Xho | dunno lel |
| 21:30.05 | Imperios | Everything is the same |
| 21:30.08 | Imperios | DAMN YOU DC |
| 21:30.19 | Xho | I don't get the same enjoyment out of TF2 as I did when MvM came out |
| 21:30.19 | Imperios | You could have developed your own style |
| 21:30.26 | Monet_2 | "everything is the same" - welcome ot the 21st century lol. |
| 21:30.29 | Xho | That was the last properly good update in my opinion |
| 21:30.29 | Imperios | Batman v Superman was bad not because of its style |
| 21:30.33 | Imperios | It wsas bad because of poor plot |
| 21:30.35 | OluapPlayer | Yeah |
| 21:30.39 | Hachiman | BvS was bad because it was shit lmao |
| 21:30.40 | Imperios | WHY COULDN'T YOU KEEP THE UNIQUE SNYDER STYLE |
| 21:30.45 | Imperios | THE ELEGANCE |
| 21:30.51 | Imperios | THE DELICATE BATTLE SCENES |
| 21:30.52 | Imperios | PLEASE COME ON |
| 21:31.02 | Imperios | ARE YOU GOING TO DESTROY ALL THAT |
| 21:31.04 | Monet_2 | Because Zack Snyder wants to be Christopher Nolan. |
| 21:31.06 | Imperios | JUST BECAUSE |
| 21:31.07 | Xho | I do hope Valve pull something out of the bag with TF2 because that game is effectively legendary for its genre |
| 21:31.09 | Imperios | JUST BECAUSE THE PLOT SUCKED |
| 21:31.10 | Imperios | FUCK YOU |
| 21:31.13 | Imperios | MAKE A BETTER PLOT |
| 21:31.16 | Imperios | AND KEEP BVS STRENGTHS |
| 21:31.21 | Imperios | BUT NO YOU HAVE TO DEGENERATE INTO MARVEL |
| 21:31.22 | Imperios | WHY |
| 21:31.26 | Hachiman | Christopher Nolan should make more DC movies |
| 21:31.41 | Hachiman | Or just start doing Marvel movies because DC is a joke hur |
| 21:31.41 | Imperios | Seriously |
| 21:31.46 | Imperios | Let Wonder Woman be good |
| 21:31.48 | Imperios | Please |
| 21:32.02 | Hachiman | It's likely that DC will make Wonder Woman a feminist movie |
| 21:32.08 | Imperios | Feminist movies can be good |
| 21:32.10 | Imperios | Fury Road was good |
| 21:32.11 | Xho | The Dark Knight trilogy was good but it was far too realistic to make a cinematic universe out of it |
| 21:32.12 | Hachiman | Ghostbusters |
| 21:32.12 | Imperios | It may be great |
| 21:32.15 | Imperios | Fury Road |
| 21:32.22 | Imperios | It can be a Ghostbusters |
| 21:32.22 | Hachiman | GHOSTBUSTERS |
| 21:32.25 | Imperios | It can also be a Fury Road |
| 21:32.26 | Imperios | FURY ROAD |
| 21:32.27 | Imperios | WITNESS ME |
| 21:32.27 | Monet_2 | Ghostbusters was not a feminist moviw. |
| 21:32.29 | Imperios | WITNESS |
| 21:32.33 | Xho | You could get away with Batman and Bane but seing Superman in that kind of theme is just no |
| 21:32.36 | Imperios | Also Fury Road was more feminist than Ghostbusters |
| 21:32.36 | DrodoEmpire | If Valve gave as much of a shit for Hat Simulator as they did with CS:Gambling Offensive it could be decent |
| 21:32.37 | OluapPlayer | Everyone shut up pls |
| 21:32.41 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 21:32.44 | Monet_2 | The Ghostbusters were all women - that was it. |
| 21:32.45 | OluapPlayer | This talk is devolving into angry ranting |
| 21:32.50 | Xho | Indeed |
| 21:32.51 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 21:32.54 | Xho | up the fuck shut pls |
| 21:32.59 | Hachiman | Monet_2: All the men were also idiots or assholes |
| 21:33.12 | Xho | Mad Max Fury Road is the best film I've seen in years |
| 21:33.26 | Monet_2 | ~offtopic |
| 21:33.26 | infobot | Sorry, please check the topic and try your comment again. <BEEP> |
| 21:33.35 | Monet_2 | Huh |
| 21:33.37 | OluapPlayer | Dangit infobot |
| 21:33.42 | Xho | ~die |
| 21:33.42 | infobot | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 21:33.46 | Monet_2 | Well ley's take this there anyway |
| 21:33.47 | Xho | There sorted |
| 21:34.06 | OluapPlayer | Yes you can cry and scream in all caps all you want there |
| 21:34.26 | DrodoEmpire | Has Tech posted today at all? |
| 21:34.31 | OluapPlayer | Nope |
| 21:34.34 | DrodoEmpire | Ah damn |
| 21:34.41 | OluapPlayer | I've also been wanting her here |
| 21:34.41 | Monet_2 | I don't blame him. But we'll move |
| 21:34.45 | Monet_2 | She's not even online. |
| 21:34.48 | Xho | Sharknado is on its 4th film now |
| 21:34.55 | Xho | It's turning into a cult |
| 21:35.00 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 21:35.04 | OluapPlayer | I read that as "it's tuna" at first |
| 21:35.10 | DrodoEmpire | I've noticed its rise >.< |
| 21:35.19 | Monet_2 | "It's tuna into a cult" |
| 21:35.27 | OluapPlayer | tuna |
| 21:35.27 | OluapPlayer | shark |
| 21:35.31 | Xho | best pun 0/10 shoot myself |
| 21:35.32 | Monet_2 | *Miami Vice theme* |
| 21:35.36 | DrodoEmpire | I think its basically the B-movie that... Not even a satire of B-movies, really |
| 21:36.00 | DrodoEmpire | Its just that its brazenly, unapologetically a B-movie which is why its so popular |
| 21:36.08 | DrodoEmpire | I dunno though |
| 21:36.37 | OluapPlayer | idunno I don't doubt anything after they made a sequel to Birdemic |
| 21:37.03 | Hachiman | Sharknado is not even in so-bad-it's-good territory |
| 21:37.04 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 21:37.06 | Hachiman | It's just awful |
| 21:37.15 | Cyrannian | "They don't know how to write good" - Donald Trump on the New York Times |
| 21:37.18 | OluapPlayer | SHOO BIRDS WITH HANG WIRES |
| 21:37.20 | Monet_2 | "so bad it's hilariosu to watch" |
| 21:37.34 | Monet_2 | Like the guy who killed a shark by *diving into its mouth* branding a chainsaw |
| 21:37.44 | OluapPlayer | That sounds fucking awesome |
| 21:37.46 | Hachiman | That was the only highlight of the movie for me |
| 21:38.11 | DrodoEmpire | Cyrannian: Throwing stones in a glass house, interesting strategy Trump |
| 21:38.11 | OluapPlayer | GASHUNK |
| 21:38.23 | Monet_2 | Awesome, but it reinforces the stereotype that sharks will eat anything they can fit in their mouths. |
| 21:38.26 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G5pyFhmAqE |
| 21:38.39 | DrodoEmpire | Monet_2: Not sure how offended the shark community will be by this |
| 21:38.49 | DrodoEmpire | It is, after all, a really dumb movie to begin with >.< |
| 21:39.16 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qObNvmizazo |
| 21:39.44 | OluapPlayer | The tornado has fucking explosions going on |
| 21:39.44 | OluapPlayer | stronk |
| 21:41.57 | OluapPlayer | Brutal |
| 21:42.39 | Cyrannian | the sharks are so terrifying, the people forgot how to act |
| 21:42.51 | OluapPlayer | kek |
| 21:43.07 | *** join/#sporewiki Charles_Murray (6c380808@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.56.8.8) |
| 21:43.11 | OluapPlayer | http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/153/505/2c9.jpg #shotsfired |
| 21:43.22 | Hachiman | kek |
| 21:43.33 | DrodoEmpire | savage |
| 21:43.35 | DrodoEmpire | I Charles |
| 21:43.38 | DrodoEmpire | *Hi Charles |
| 21:43.39 | Charles_Murray | lol |
| 21:43.41 | Charles_Murray | Hey |
| 21:44.11 | Charles_Murray | Apparently the United States has about a third as many Poles as Poland. |
| 21:44.32 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 21:44.59 | Charles_Murray | Half as many Swedes as Sweden |
| 21:57.34 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 22:02.16 | Monet_2 | Feeling that urge to do something. I'd stream but last time I did I mentally crashed halfway though. |
| 22:03.11 | DrodoEmpire | Yikes |
| 22:10.00 | Xho | Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnvMe0rWI2I This track rite |
| 22:23.25 | *** join/#sporewiki Jepardi (591b4d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.27.77.66) |
| 22:23.27 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 22:24.54 | lukosa | hello |
| 22:27.33 | DrodoEmpire | Hi there |
| 22:47.38 | *** join/#sporewiki Quark8 (425782ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.87.130.255) |
| 22:47.39 | Quark8 | Hello everyone. |
| 22:48.51 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 22:57.38 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/i57cSbP |
| 22:57.52 | DrodoEmpire | 503 error |
| 22:58.17 | Wormy_ | same |
| 22:58.35 | DrodoEmpire | Then why post it? XD |
| 22:58.54 | Wormy_ | must have just gone as I did |
| 22:59.21 | Imperios | Monet_2: Remember the moral guardian channel I showed you? |
| 22:59.24 | Imperios | About Minions |
| 22:59.38 | Monet_2 | Yes,,, |
| 22:59.45 | Wormy_ | try again |
| 23:01.53 | Monet_2 | Wormy_: https://www.facebook.com/JimllPaintIt/photos/a.163717657115180.38271.163388563814756/712294528924154/?type=3&theater |
| 23:02.43 | Monet_2 | More Jim'll Paint It. |
| 23:03.54 | Wormy_ | lol |
| 23:04.18 | Wormy_ | used cillit bang as embalming fluid |
| 23:05.06 | Monet_2 | A very clean body. |
| 23:05.57 | Monet_2 | I recall a comedy sketch from years ago that had a Barry Scott parody advertising "kitchen gun" hold on |
| 23:06.27 | Imperios | Monet_2: They also make reviews |
| 23:06.54 | Imperios | They apparently think that a Mexican character having the name "Jesus" is anti-Christian |
| 23:08.21 | Monet_2 | Wormy_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnAZF-zIbWE |
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| 23:13.17 | Wormy_ | The number one cleaning product of the United States available now! |
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| 23:15.14 | Monet_2 | I read "Available now" in Barry Scott's voice. |
| 23:16.20 | Monet_2 | Not sure which would have been funnier - the woman crying like she is, or acting ecstatic despite the wreckage, like everyone in adverts acts. |
| 23:20.54 | Imperios | Monet_2: They also claims the new Spider-Man movies are *moral* |
| 23:21.09 | Monet_2 | Imperios: meaning... |
| 23:21.17 | Imperios | Yes the one with Electro |
| 23:21.29 | Imperios | They also stated Bay TMNT is moral |
| 23:21.30 | Imperios | BAt |
| 23:21.31 | Imperios | bay |
| 23:21.33 | Imperios | BAY |
| 23:21.33 | Imperios | MORAL |
| 23:21.49 | Monet_2 | Okay that one I wonder |
| 23:21.58 | Monet_2 | Do they think science is bad? |
| 23:23.04 | Imperios | It's a Russian website, its owners are communists |
| 23:23.06 | Imperios | So maybe not |
| 23:23.20 | Imperios | Well maybe not all of them are communists |
| 23:23.36 | Imperios | They're a mixture of communists, Orthodox fundies, and traditional Islam fundies |
| 23:24.03 | Imperios | Seeing how they praise the Soviet Union but also condemn Islamophobia |
| 23:24.24 | Monet_2 | So yeah not sure how they approve of Spider-Man and TMNT. |
| 23:25.01 | Monet_2 | The Amazing Spider-Man movies has peter as an asshole. |
| 23:25.01 | Imperios | OMFG just found their best article so far |
| 23:25.11 | Imperios | I'll just google translate it and show it to you |
| 23:25.43 | Imperios | Monet_2: https://translate.google.ru/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwhatisgood.ru%2Ftv%2Ffilms%2Fgran-budushhego-perepisyvaem-istoriyu-vtoroj-mirovoj-vojny%2F&edit-text=&act=url |
| 23:26.39 | Imperios | ...How |
| 23:26.45 | Imperios | ...How could they come to that conclusion |
| 23:26.59 | Monet_2 | Well title-wise it did feel a LOT like it was WWII |
| 23:27.51 | Imperios | https://translate.google.ru/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwhatisgood.ru%2Ftv%2Ffilms%2Fgran-budushhego-perepisyvaem-istoriyu-vtoroj-mirovoj-vojny%2F&edit-text=&act=url And another one |
| 23:28.17 | Hachiman | That's the same one |
| 23:28.22 | Imperios | oop |
| 23:28.23 | Imperios | s |
| 23:29.21 | Monet_2 | The sword lady got her powers at Verdun, there was a Normandy landing, the two found themselves deep in occupied French territory and London was a bastion of resistance in Europe. |
| 23:29.37 | Imperios | Monet_2 Hachiman: https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=ru&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://whatisgood.ru/tv/cartoons/multfilm-zveropolis-2016-tolerantnoe-slaboumie-v-massyi/&usg=ALkJrhizZAlEulq0WX7xNhCCAhdRdZCe0A The Google translate is bad but look at it |
| 23:30.01 | Imperios | Monet_2: I mean I do not like when Americans take all the credit for WW2 but how nutty can you be to see that subtext in EoT |
| 23:30.17 | Imperios | That Americans brainwashpeople into thinking that they won WW2 through sci fi |
| 23:30.27 | Imperios | Hell Edge of Tomorrow isn't even originally "Anglo-Saxon" |
| 23:30.29 | Imperios | It's Japanese |
| 23:31.39 | DrodoEmpire | https://scontent.fyhz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/13884395_1222657824444908_1275397474_n.png?oh=692b4afb037d85a22c45ce20be388b76&oe=57A396C2 |
| 23:31.45 | Imperios | Just look at it |
| 23:32.01 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: You can take a look too |
| 23:32.07 | Monet_2 | But it was based on a manga that may have been inspired by something like Medal of Honour, Call of Duty r Halo. |
| 23:32.09 | Xho | Well I can't say the Wonder Woman fillm looks good |
| 23:32.33 | Xho | film |
| 23:33.36 | Imperios | Look at the Zootopia one |
| 23:35.50 | Imperios | https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=ru&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://whatisgood.ru/tv/films/zvyozdnye-vojny-probuzhdenie-sily-o-stiranii-polovyx-markerov/&usg=ALkJrhh63OKy5DaOu29wBoJLa7Ds0UdhuQ Ohgod the Force Awakens one |
| 23:35.53 | Monet_2 | Their point about "predators not being predators " does chime in with how it's more common for African Americans to be chocolate brown rather than charcoal black. |
| 23:36.16 | Monet_2 | Just one possible example. |
| 23:37.09 | Imperios | They basically treat tolerance as evil |
| 23:37.29 | Imperios | They believe Zootopia preaching tolerance means that people will begin to tolerate criminals |
| 23:37.39 | Monet_2 | That's missing half the story. |
| 23:38.33 | Imperios | https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=ru&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://whatisgood.ru/tv/films/revolyucionnoe-kino-gollivuda-kak-razrushit-no-ne-kak-postroit/&usg=ALkJrhivWy_wSh-c1_IPTqsoPI7kndqdIw ...Actually this one makes some sense |
| 23:38.42 | Imperios | Yeah I agree with them here |
| 23:39.36 | Monet_2 | the predator/prey analogy IIRC hearing, in the United States the ration proportion is closer to 10-12% Afro-American. |
| 23:40.06 | Imperios | Monet_2: I thought more about Christians and Muslims when watching Zootopia personally |
| 23:40.18 | Imperios | Bellwether is like Bush with his Patriot Act and drones |
| 23:40.50 | Hachiman | I thought about prey animals and predator animals when I watched Zootopia |
| 23:41.47 | Imperios | One point of the population acts aggressive: the government first tries to hide it while others use it to get into power |
| 23:41.52 | Hachiman | Also, Madagascar did the "predator struggling alongside prey" thing before Zootopia did although on a more personal level |
| 23:42.06 | Imperios | Hachiman: Madagascar wasn't political tho |
| 23:42.14 | Imperios | At the end the situation is resolved by fighting the heart of the issue |
| 23:42.26 | Imperios | Which in our case is bombing Saudi Arabia plz |
| 23:42.32 | Imperios | plz destroy Saudi Arabia |
| 23:42.37 | Monet_2 | Their talk of how you will rarely meet a thief or a murderer who is nice reminds me of the fallacy that all drug dealers look like twitchy hoodie-wearing wasters. |
| 23:43.06 | Imperios | Is the Google Translate English comprehensible? |
| 23:43.12 | Hachiman | On the contrary, a lot of thieves and murderers are surprisingly nicer than one would think |
| 23:43.28 | Monet_2 | Yeah. |
| 23:44.08 | Wormy_ | My monitor be hissing out sleeping gas again. |
| 23:44.24 | Monet_2 | In fact it was a serious thing back in the late 19th andearly 20th centuries that one could work out whose a criminal by the shape of their face. |
| 23:46.27 | Monet_2 | Imperios: The grammar is tricky but I think I'm deciphering it. |
| 23:47.16 | Imperios | Wormy_: https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=ru&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.ru&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://whatisgood.ru/tv/films/revolyucionnoe-kino-gollivuda-kak-razrushit-no-ne-kak-postroit/&usg=ALkJrhivWy_wSh-c1_IPTqsoPI7kndqdIw You might be interestedin this one |
| 23:47.28 | Imperios | I agree with the commies on that |
| 23:48.29 | Monet_2 | Hell, Nick when he was first introduced is a perfect example of what a criminal is mire likely ot be like. |
| 23:49.59 | Wormy_ | There is something about politicians and the media selling us simple narratives about the future, whereas once they sold dreams, they now sell nightmares. |
| 23:51.43 | Monet_2 | I agree with Wormy regarding V for Vendetta. |
| 23:52.31 | Monet_2 | V may have inspired Anonymous, but he wasn't interested in setting things right or improving things, he was much more interested in tearing the current system down. |
| 23:53.20 | Imperios | And thing is, the actual results of revolution are almost never shown |
| 23:53.28 | Imperios | The tyrant is toppled, boom, done |
| 23:53.50 | Imperios | Only Hunger Games managed to tackle that issue somehow |
| 23:53.53 | Monet_2 | Agreed, |
| 23:54.22 | Monet_2 | They always show the defeat of the bad guy, never the consequences of their successful rebellion. |
| 23:54.23 | Imperios | Whereas IRL we have... |
| 23:54.27 | Imperios | Well look at our country |
| 23:54.33 | Imperios | Look how *we* toppled our tyrant |
| 23:55.47 | Monet_2 | In fact even Hunger Games may have dodged the question - Katniss toppled a tyrant, prevented a doppleganger from rising...but then what? There were still winning Tributes and disenfranchised citizens who wanted a revenge Hunger Games. |
| 23:58.46 | Tek0516 | They kill the tyrant and the wannabe tyrant that was the clear replacement, leaving a power vacuum on both factions in the end. |
| 23:59.38 | Monet_2 | So there might just be another civil war. |
