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| 00:14.23 | Spluff5 | What do you more technical guys think of Strange Matter and an empire mining neutron stars to get it. |
| 00:14.40 | DrodoEmpire | Strange Matter? |
| 00:14.49 | DrodoEmpire | I mean, mining it might come of as a bit weird... |
| 00:14.49 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 00:15.00 | Spluff5 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strange_matter |
| 00:15.11 | Spluff5 | It's matter that contains strange quarks |
| 00:15.14 | The_Randomness | I don't know how it would be useful |
| 00:18.23 | Spluff5 | It could be used to destroy a planet or to turn any baryonic matter into power. |
| 00:18.55 | Spluff5 | If it comes into contact with regular matter it converts it into strange matter, liberating energy |
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| 00:26.28 | Spluff5 | Could work as a superweapon or a power source |
| 00:26.41 | The_Randomness | I don't think that destroying a planet would ever be a good thing to do (despite what some people might say), and a power source that has the risk of turning everything around it into strange matter doesn't sound very appealing to me |
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| 00:29.47 | Spluff5 | I dunno, an evil species could use it. |
| 00:30.01 | The_Randomness | "an evil species" >_> |
| 00:30.14 | Spluff5 | Well, you know |
| 00:30.33 | Spluff5 | An antagonist species from the perspective of the protagonist of a story I write |
| 00:30.37 | The_Randomness | I don't know much about exotic matter either, but it's unclear to me how you would even confine this sort of stuff |
| 00:32.53 | The_Randomness | There's also no proof suggesting that the strange matter hypothesis is actually true. |
| 00:37.09 | Spluff5 | Well yeah, this is science FICTION though. |
| 00:37.34 | Technobliterator | Some would argue science fiction is more interesting when it is based on science fact |
| 00:37.40 | The_Randomness | yeah, I understand that |
| 00:39.11 | The_Randomness | But simply saying that something is fiction should not excuse it from evaluation |
| 00:39.53 | The_Randomness | And from what little I know, I don't see strange matter being useful, and there are surely less dangerous and just better things to trade in general |
| 00:40.37 | Spluff5 | I see your point |
| 00:41.03 | Spluff5 | I guess it all really comes down to how hard you want to make your scifi |
| 00:41.34 | Spluff5 | I'm going to a less hard form in my stories but I do really appreciate and like harder scifi. |
| 00:53.59 | drom | What kind of heresy did I spy now? |
| 00:54.34 | The_Randomness | hm? |
| 00:55.16 | drom | Strange matter |
| 00:55.21 | drom | Hard sci-fi |
| 00:55.25 | drom | etc |
| 00:57.52 | The_Randomness | just a bit of criticism for an idea |
| 00:58.20 | DrodoEmpire | Odd question, but does anybody else like chow-chow? :p |
| 00:58.28 | The_Randomness | chow-chow? |
| 00:58.47 | DrodoEmpire | (For reference- its a North American pickled relish, often served cold as a side) |
| 00:58.55 | The_Randomness | I've never heard of it |
| 00:59.10 | DrodoEmpire | Not quite as fine as the condiment relish |
| 00:59.12 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 00:59.30 | DrodoEmpire | Basically- looks awful, tastes good if you're a fan of pickled food |
| 00:59.39 | drom | I eat pickled fish |
| 00:59.40 | drom | So |
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| 01:02.45 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 01:02.48 | The_Randomness | Hey |
| 01:04.14 | Charles_Murray | Hey |
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| 01:05.40 | Spluff5 | Damn, lost connection |
| 01:05.55 | Spluff5 | Did anyone respond to what I said. |
| 01:06.14 | The_Randomness | I don't think so |
| 01:10.47 | The_Randomness | Charles_Murray: You available for any collabverse stuff tonight? |
| 01:14.38 | DrodoEmpire | https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/4uae3d/when_did_people_stop_using_swords_and_armor_for/ - Sorta a silly question to begin with, but I feel a bit proud of the answer I provided |
| 01:14.56 | DrodoEmpire | Its short but comprehensive |
| 01:15.10 | DrodoEmpire | A quick ride through several centuries of military history :p |
| 01:15.19 | The_Randomness | :o |
| 01:15.55 | drom | Someone downvoted you |
| 01:16.16 | drom | upvotes comment back to one point |
| 01:16.37 | DrodoEmpire | (I *could've* said that the real final straw regarding old-fashioned knights and their armour was arguably Agincourt in 1453 but that didn't involve guns whatsoever and is highly debatable) |
| 01:16.45 | DrodoEmpire | yuy |
| 01:18.01 | DrodoEmpire | (I mean, the French especially continued to use gendarmes in to the 16th century, lance and full-armour and all) |
| 01:18.18 | DrodoEmpire | (In the era that the pistol became increasingly popular over the lance) |
| 01:18.29 | Wormy_ | Spluff5: Neutron stars are mined in the SporeWikiverse http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Delpha_Coalition_of_Planets/Technology/Industry#Neutron-degenerate_matter_mining |
| 01:18.52 | Wormy_ | However, strange matter is thought to be unstable when it reaches a critical density |
| 01:19.08 | DrodoEmpire | That's quite bizarre |
| 01:19.10 | DrodoEmpire | << |
| 01:19.12 | DrodoEmpire | .*<.< |
| 01:19.17 | Wormy_ | So its matter-munching properties aren't very useful in SporeWiki's conception of physics |
| 01:19.28 | drom | I'm really so into hard-sci-fi. That I need writing memos about the impact of micro-gravity on certain key interactions and etc. |
| 01:19.36 | drom | Like weaponry and explosives |
| 01:20.02 | The_Randomness | drom: We're actually doing harder/speculative sci-fi stuff with the collabverse |
| 01:20.33 | The_Randomness | And it's so much more fulfilling to me than soft sci-fi |
| 01:20.42 | drom | I know The_Randomness. But the thing is the universe is larger and is adapted for FTL-travel |
| 01:20.46 | drom | Just Cause |
| 01:21.10 | The_Randomness | you mean the collabverse? |
| 01:21.25 | drom | No, my pictured universe |
| 01:21.35 | The_Randomness | Ah, alright |
| 01:21.44 | drom | Sorry for being anti-climax-ish |
| 01:22.13 | The_Randomness | I was just asking for clarification |
| 01:22.16 | Wormy_ | Mining neutron stars even in the DCP is no easy feat. To extra neutron ash the DCP creates instabilities on the surface in the form of quakes. The neutron ash is expelled, but free neutrons have a quick half-life, so the DCP bombards it with stable structures of miniature black holes with charge to create a condensate balanced by nuclear forces and gravity, and only then neutronium is fabricated |
| 01:22.23 | Wormy_ | *extract |
| 01:22.55 | drom | The_Randomness: Did not mean to ruin expections, which I thought I was about to |
| 01:23.11 | drom | Anyway. I usually consult Project Rho's Atomic Rockets |
| 01:23.12 | drom | http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/sidearmslug.php |
| 01:23.42 | drom | Anyway, came to think of handwavium. |
| 01:24.02 | Spluff5 | Awww |
| 01:24.22 | drom | As I stated in the offtopic channel. I had very fun times talking about handwavium with my friend |
| 01:24.33 | drom | Citing good and bad examples |
| 01:24.45 | Spluff5 | I like the idea of weird particle stuff that most people haven't heard of but sounds theoretically plausible. |
| 01:24.47 | drom | We pissed on both Star Trek and Star Wars a lot. |
| 01:24.51 | The_Randomness | heh |
| 01:25.00 | drom | I was fun |
| 01:25.19 | Spluff5 | Strange matter and sounded like something cool to use |
| 01:25.42 | drom | Also the friend is more into science fantasy - meaning fantasy but with science. |
| 01:25.49 | The_Randomness | ech |
| 01:26.00 | drom | So he is a fantasy writer, but likes to explain things with science |
| 01:26.21 | The_Randomness | hmmm, I don't think that's what science fantasy means |
| 01:26.34 | The_Randomness | Sounds like he does fantasy, but with considerably less handwaving than most people do |
| 01:26.48 | The_Randomness | science fantasy would be stuff more like Star Wars |
| 01:26.51 | Wormy_ | I consult this site for grading sci-fi http://www.kheper.net/topics/scifi/grading.html |
| 01:26.52 | drom | Oh |
| 01:26.54 | drom | Well yeah |
| 01:27.10 | The_Randomness | Wormy_: I need to note something about that site |
| 01:27.19 | The_Randomness | It is clearly biased when it comes to Orion's Arm |
| 01:27.46 | Wormy_ | I don't think it diminishes the scale |
| 01:27.56 | The_Randomness | Right, just saying |
| 01:28.30 | Wormy_ | OA and Xeeleeverse do fit the constraints outlined |
| 01:28.34 | drom | The_Randomness: His only handwavium is the word 'magic' |
| 01:28.40 | Wormy_ | So would my writings |
| 01:28.51 | drom | And he explains what the 'magic' is |
| 01:28.54 | drom | and what it is about |
| 01:29.13 | The_Randomness | Perhaps, but there's enough bullshit in OA to make me not consider it hard at all |
| 01:29.15 | drom | Instead of waving your hands magically reciting the same word again |
| 01:29.18 | Wormy_ | And I've read Stephen Baxter's Manifold Series and it certainly is harder than his Xeeleeverse |
| 01:29.23 | DrodoEmpire | Eww Onion's Arm |
| 01:29.26 | DrodoEmpire | That's gross |
| 01:29.44 | The_Randomness | It has some of the trappings of hard sci-fi, and attempts to sell itself as such, but it is so full of bullshit that I can't consider it as such |
| 01:29.47 | drom | Wormy_: You'd like Neuromancer |
| 01:29.54 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah definitely |
| 01:30.17 | Wormy_ | It certainly has some bullshit singularitarinism but you can't fault their creativity and parts that are well considered |
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| 01:30.29 | drom | It is pretty much somewhere between Ultra-hard and Very hard |
| 01:30.38 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh |
| 01:30.43 | DrodoEmpire | No, I disagree |
| 01:30.51 | The_Randomness | No, it is soft |
| 01:30.51 | Wormy_ | I've read a lot of OA, probably more than anyone here other than Ghelae |
| 01:30.56 | drom | Since it has chapters where it is set in space |
| 01:31.14 | The_Randomness | drom: what is? |
| 01:31.14 | drom | And all the things, put micro-gravity into consideration |
| 01:31.19 | drom | Neuromancer |
| 01:31.28 | The_Randomness | I haven't heard of it, admittedly |
| 01:31.53 | drom | A book by William Gibson |
| 01:32.02 | drom | It is quite old but a good cyberpunk book |
| 01:32.08 | Wormy_ | I do mean to read that book |
| 01:32.11 | The_Randomness | Sounds interesting |
| 01:32.17 | Wormy_ | I also want to read his Different Engine novel |
| 01:32.22 | drom | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromancer |
| 01:32.34 | Wormy_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Difference_Engine |
| 01:32.55 | drom | 3/4 of the story is set on the surface of Earth |
| 01:33.41 | drom | It is one of the good debut novels I've seen |
| 01:33.43 | Wormy_ | The Difference Engine is essentially what would happen if Babbage developed the first computer and it was realised by Victorian Britain, and combined it with early electric technology |
| 01:33.48 | drom | and read |
| 01:34.07 | drom | Wormy_ The_Randomness: Just a word, it contains adult themes |
| 01:34.17 | Wormy_ | Doesn't bother me |
| 01:34.18 | drom | If you read the GoT books, you'd find it some plebian shit. |
| 01:34.36 | Wormy_ | Stephen Baxter's books often have space sex |
| 01:34.37 | The_Randomness | fuck GoT |
| 01:34.40 | Wormy_ | in raw detail |
| 01:34.46 | The_Randomness | I never want to see that piece of shit ever again |
| 01:35.41 | drom | Wormy_: Groin-shaped ships sliding inside wormholes while porno theme is played in the background for your convience. |
| 01:35.44 | The_Randomness | It's legitimately the worst thing I've ever read, followed closely by an insufferable piece of Marxist propaganda that I only managed to get through a page of before realizing it as such |
| 01:36.22 | DrodoEmpire | What is? |
| 01:36.23 | DrodoEmpire | o.O |
| 01:36.28 | Wormy_ | The worst thing I read recently was a Feminist Theory of Glaciers |
| 01:36.33 | DrodoEmpire | olololololololololooll |
| 01:36.35 | drom | I gotta admit I never read any of the Game of Thrones |
| 01:36.41 | DrodoEmpire | I *know* that paper! |
| 01:36.41 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 01:36.46 | The_Randomness | DrodoEmpire: GoT |
| 01:36.49 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 01:36.55 | The_Randomness | i.e. the worst thing I've ever read |
| 01:36.59 | DrodoEmpire | Jesus |
| 01:37.01 | DrodoEmpire | Really? |
| 01:37.02 | The_Randomness | The second worst thing is that thing I told you about |
| 01:37.02 | drom | Game of Thrones, yeah? |
| 01:37.04 | The_Randomness | yes |
| 01:37.10 | drom | As I thought |
| 01:37.13 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah that piece of marxist crap |
| 01:37.30 | drom | The_Randomness, the memes the movies spawn are dank tho |
| 01:38.11 | drom | You know what |
| 01:38.16 | The_Randomness | Probably nowhere near as dank as the stuff I deal with |
| 01:38.19 | drom | The worst thing I've read recently |
| 01:38.24 | drom | Are ban appeals |
| 01:38.31 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 01:39.23 | drom | AND WHENEVER I SEE THAT GODDAMN THREAD FILLED WITH FILTHY FANDOM-BOYS CHANTING THAT AVALI SHOULD BE AN OFFICIAL RACE FOR STARBOUND |
| 01:39.31 | The_Randomness | heh |
| 01:39.39 | The_Randomness | Granted, the Avali race mod is very impressive |
| 01:39.45 | drom | Indeed |
| 01:39.57 | drom | Although it feels glorified |
| 01:40.31 | drom | To the point I get the impression that Avali are "avali > everyone" at everything. |
| 01:40.34 | The_Randomness | dunno, haven't paid much attention |
| 01:41.04 | The_Randomness | well, much attention past the download page |
| 01:41.10 | drom | Besides, Avali is also the same reason I discovered these so called "Sergals" |
| 01:41.16 | The_Randomness | oh my |
| 01:42.02 | drom | Through a google search |
| 01:42.04 | The_Randomness | I think that is where you start getting into some weird stuff |
| 01:42.30 | drom | The_Randomness: This is one of the results on my google search. http://i.imgur.com/r44dGL6.png |
| 01:42.49 | drom | I found a shortcut and passed it |
| 01:42.58 | The_Randomness | for some reason I'm hesitant to click it |
| 01:43.24 | drom | It is a line-art of a Sergal licking an Avali |
| 01:43.35 | The_Randomness | yeah, good thing I didn't |
| 01:44.15 | drom | Besides, Sergals do look like in concepts |
| 01:44.21 | drom | look nice in* |
| 01:44.25 | The_Randomness | yeah |
| 01:44.57 | The_Randomness | They're just associated with some really weird stuff from what I've heard |
| 01:45.13 | drom | Almost the same picture I used for the early form of my Nomatarians until I remodelled them into hexa-limbed wolves. |
| 01:45.33 | drom | The_Randomness: Rule 34 |
| 01:45.37 | drom | Always Rule 34 |
| 01:45.40 | The_Randomness | yeah, of course |
| 01:46.06 | The_Randomness | And, well, they did originate with furry stuff iirc |
| 01:46.17 | drom | I'm not surprised |
| 01:46.45 | drom | I'd be surprised if there was any actual unironic and serious skinnie rule 34's |
| 01:48.10 | drom | The_Randomness: If you don't get the reference http://too-much-caffeine-comics.tumblr.com/post/146795279996 |
| 01:48.21 | The_Randomness | ah |
| 01:48.23 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 01:48.57 | drom | Well fuck |
| 01:49.00 | drom | it is 4am |
| 01:49.05 | drom | brb real fast |
| 01:56.56 | Wormy_ | Either going to bed or getting more coffee |
| 02:01.37 | The_Randomness | ok |
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| 02:07.11 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 02:07.18 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 02:30.13 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/Rtl24O9.png - Inherited three countries through a personal union |
| 02:30.21 | DrodoEmpire | You |
| 02:30.23 | DrodoEmpire | You just fucking win |
| 02:30.26 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
| 02:32.58 | The_Randomness | :o |
| 02:33.58 | Wormy_ | beddie byes |
| 02:35.03 | Quark8 | *Victory song*: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b02mysV9IPI |
| 02:52.51 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/Mgprtjl.png |
| 02:53.11 | The_Randomness | :P |
| 02:57.48 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/XGB0GFX.png |
| 02:59.22 | The_Randomness | "Coincidence? I think not." |
| 02:59.36 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 03:02.58 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/axIFwPe.png |
| 03:05.25 | The_Randomness | wtf |
| 03:05.49 | DrodoEmpire | The real fuckin OG right there |
| 03:06.04 | The_Randomness | not the good kush |
| 03:06.44 | DrodoEmpire | ey laymo |
| 03:06.56 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/F2HocsB.jpg |
| 03:07.52 | The_Randomness | wot |
| 03:08.20 | The_Randomness | the V/\ was too much for him |
| 03:08.28 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 03:09.34 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/RmVZHBZ.jpg |
| 03:10.37 | The_Randomness | oh gosh |
| 03:11.17 | The_Randomness | that's just malicious |
| 03:11.36 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 03:28.16 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/tkydePz.jpg - me_irl |
| 03:28.43 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 03:30.48 | DrodoEmpire | http://imgur.com/gallery/vZmrH - Sorry for the link spam but this is perfect |
| 03:31.57 | The_Randomness | looool |
| 03:33.18 | The_Randomness | That actually does look useful for people who pack bananas in their lunch |
| 03:33.27 | The_Randomness | Since that way the banana doesn't get squished or something |
| 03:34.13 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 03:35.57 | The_Randomness | puns/inneundo aside, the dick comments and such were low hanging fruit |
| 03:36.13 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, but, sometimes easy jokes are funny |
| 03:36.22 | The_Randomness | yeah |
| 03:36.26 | DrodoEmpire | It was the company's responses that made it |
| 03:36.29 | The_Randomness | I liked the person's responses lol |
| 03:40.52 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/rV0EZkw.jpg |
| 03:43.22 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 03:45.46 | The_Randomness | Unfortunately a lot of my meme stuff is either reliant on being a Twitch shitlord like me, or is somewhat explicit |
| 03:46.08 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 03:46.25 | DrodoEmpire | How do you mean 'explicit'? |
| 03:46.28 | The_Randomness | uhhhhh |
| 03:46.35 | DrodoEmpire | Like, just really really offensive? |
| 03:46.37 | The_Randomness | no |
| 03:46.42 | DrodoEmpire | Or NSFW? |
| 03:47.30 | The_Randomness | more that |
| 03:47.30 | DrodoEmpire | (Just curious >.< Half of my sorta memes are offensive is the thing, probably wouldn't dare post them here) |
| 03:47.36 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 03:47.42 | The_Randomness | but it's so silly that I think it's hilarious |
| 03:47.49 | DrodoEmpire | Fair enough XD |
| 03:49.47 | The_Randomness | If you've ever heard of gachi, that's what I'm talking about |
| 03:49.56 | DrodoEmpire | Never had |
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| 04:34.36 | The_Randomness | I'm off for tonight, bye guys |
| 05:06.39 | Spluff5 | Wow, I like the Delpha Coalition's technology page. |
| 05:07.09 | Spluff5 | So much particle salad. |
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| 11:50.33 | Jepardi | Hi |
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| 12:35.19 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 12:35.58 | Hachiman | Hello |
| 12:48.59 | Monet | http://www.polygon.com/2016/7/25/12270074/pokemon-go-nintendo-stock-price?utm_campaign=polygon&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter whoops lol |
| 12:50.54 | Monet | Nintendo Shareholder - Nice work on that amazing project Nintendo! Oh wait...you only get 10% of the income. *sells Nintendo stock* |
| 12:51.02 | Monet | Nintendo shares* |
| 12:52.02 | Hachiman | Ouch |
| 12:55.15 | Monet | bbl |
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| 13:30.22 | Technobliterator | I'm quite hyped for Mario and Zelda games on mobile |
| 13:32.57 | OluapPlayer | Why would that be the case? |
| 13:33.58 | OluapPlayer | The 3DS is the king of portable consoles this gen, and Nintendo is situated in a country where portable consoles are the norm |
| 13:35.47 | Technobliterator | Portable consoles are quickly being replaced by mobile gaming, as mobile gaming becomes better |
| 13:36.12 | Technobliterator | And with how much more money they can make from it, I don't imagine it'll make much sense to keep making portable consoles |
| 13:36.21 | Technobliterator | because mobile phones are faster now anyway |
| 13:36.57 | OluapPlayer | That sounds like wishful thinking at best |
| 13:37.21 | OluapPlayer | I can see PC replacing consoles, but definitely not phones replacing consoles |
| 13:37.32 | Hachiman | Mobile phones are faster but they are far less powerful than portable consoles |
| 13:37.38 | Hachiman | Pokemon GO is a very basic game |
| 13:38.26 | Hachiman | It's nowhere near as in-depth or complex as modern Pokemon games that are still being sold on the portable console market |
| 13:40.31 | Hachiman | There is a reason why mobile games are far, FAR less advanced than actual portable console games and why they are built to be solely addictive while 3DS games can be addictive and have far more content and gameplay mechanics |
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| 13:41.12 | OluapPlayer | I'd not want mobile to become the norm |
| 13:41.26 | OluapPlayer | Companies moving away from consoles to focus on mobile is what Konami did |
| 13:41.29 | Hachiman | Neither would I |
| 13:41.31 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 13:46.53 | Technobliterator | They are not less powerful than portable consoles, Hachiman |
| 13:47.17 | Technobliterator | Top range phones you can get now are basically as good as gaming PCs from a few years back, and they're only going to get better |
| 13:47.44 | Technobliterator | the only thing stopping mobile phones in the west is the public perception that their games suck compared, which isn't helped by the fact that most mobile games do actually suck |
| 13:47.52 | Technobliterator | ie most of them are just in app purchase scams |
| 13:52.31 | Hachiman | I don't get how they are as good as PCs |
| 13:52.40 | Hachiman | Like, that's a real big stretch of an argument |
| 13:53.03 | Technobliterator | Just look at the specs |
| 13:53.25 | Technobliterator | They've got the same kind of specs that gaming PCs had a few years back |
| 14:55.13 | Wormy_ | Nigel Farage chilling with Republicans at Trump's convention. He said they were more right wing than him and gave reasons, but the reporter challenged him by pointing out all the things he's said in the past that would be in agreement with the reasons he gave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJIXEPHGpQs |
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| 15:20.55 | Charles_Bot | Hey |
| 15:23.08 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 15:40.25 | NeonPanda | so, what's everyone up to |
| 15:40.26 | NeonPanda | ? |
| 15:41.03 | OluapPlayer | Playing Dwarf Fortress |
| 15:42.18 | NeonPanda | I was about to say you and your dwarfs but then again I'm probably going to be buying Rimworld soon |
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| 16:05.07 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 16:05.11 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 16:05.31 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
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| 16:08.43 | Monet_2 | Hello! |
| 16:08.57 | DrodoEmpire | Hi! |
| 16:14.22 | Monet_2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:16.40 | Monet_2 | Apparently he ran off a set screaming "you cannot find me, I have the power of invisibility!" |
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| 16:26.34 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 16:26.50 | Monet_2 | Hello |
| 16:45.19 | Wormy_ | Monet_2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQz-CZvkY8k |
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| 16:55.15 | Wormy_ | I think https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraftwerk are my favourite electronic band |
| 17:08.36 | Wormy_ | Technobliterator: Kraftwerk - Radioactivity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0D7MBBI2Ik |
| 17:11.03 | Charles_Bot | OluapPlayer: "NOOS" |
| 17:11.08 | Charles_Bot | I love it |
| 17:11.53 | Technobliterator | I love Kraftwerk |
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| 17:19.22 | OluapPlayer | spu |
| 17:19.33 | Xho | u |
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| 17:47.05 | ImpyDroid2 | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Sanctuarium?useskin=oasis Started work on this |
| 17:47.20 | ImpyDroid2 | God it was irritating to upload that picture |
| 17:47.35 | ImpyDroid2 | Feedback plz |
| 17:49.42 | ImpyDroid2 | Especially Monet_2 and Charles_Bot |
| 17:49.55 | ImpyDroid2 | Wormy_ might also be interested |
| 17:50.10 | Charles_Bot | I'll take a look asap |
| 17:50.15 | Charles_Bot | Working atm |
| 17:51.22 | ImpyDroid2 | DrodoEmpire may also take a look |
| 17:51.49 | ImpyDroid2 | Hachiman also |
| 17:51.59 | ImpyDroid2 | OluapPlayer too |
| 17:52.02 | Monet_2 | Reading now. |
| 17:52.05 | ImpyDroid2 | Screw it beep everyone hur |
| 17:52.10 | OluapPlayer | Are you gonna name everyone individually? |
| 17:52.15 | OluapPlayer | I'll read when I can, I'm busy |
| 17:52.59 | ImpyDroid2 | Alrightt |
| 17:59.01 | Monet_2 | Imperios: Part-way though but maybe the stuff on Theorationalism could be its own page or a sub-section on Massari. |
| 17:59.18 | ImpyDroid2 | Yeah but the Masaari page is not finished hur |
| 17:59.29 | ImpyDroid2 | Once I get to work on it I will move the section |
| 18:00.16 | Monet_2 | For the society section describing the planet's approach to multiculturalism or any social divisions could be interesting. |
| 18:02.09 | ImpyDroid2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.06 | Monet_2 | Other than that, looking good so far. There are some grammar areas, but mostly mixing up of singular and plural |
| 18:09.38 | Monet_2 | "Citizen of Sanctuarium are often stereotyped as stern, no-nonsense workaholics obsessed with efficiency and logic" - "citizen" in this example case, is better plural. |
| 18:10.41 | ImpyDroid2 | Wait I thought the plural of citizen is also citizen |
| 18:11.02 | ImpyDroid2 | My bad |
| 18:16.36 | Monet_2 | np |
| 18:18.20 | OluapPlayer | Must've been a pain writing all of that in a phone |
| 18:19.51 | Wormy_ | ImpyDroid: What did the Radeon think of humanity between recorded hisatory and the 21st century? |
| 18:19.51 | ImpyDroid2 | Half of it I wrote on a phone |
| 18:20.03 | ImpyDroid2 | The other half I wrote on a PC |
| 18:20.12 | ImpyDroid2 | Then saved in a txt file |
| 18:20.18 | ImpyDroid2 | And transferred to the phone |
| 18:20.29 | ImpyDroid2 | Via USB that is |
| 18:20.40 | Wormy_ | Actually bbl dinner |
| 18:20.43 | OluapPlayer | Regardless good job, very detailed |
| 18:20.47 | ImpyDroid2 | Wormy_: I have always imagined they hated them |
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| 18:20.50 | ImpyDroid2 | Thx^^ |
| 18:24.13 | Charles_Bot | Washington DC is so hot during the summer and so cold during the winter that there's a network of tunnels under the US Capitol |
| 18:24.21 | Charles_Bot | Everyone uses those to get around |
| 18:24.57 | Charles_Bot | US Capitol and adjoining office buildings* |
| 18:24.57 | ImpyDroid2 | Fitting because Washington is a city of filthy conniving rats |
| 18:25.14 | ImpyDroid2 | downs another battle of vodka |
| 18:27.17 | ImpyDroid2 | Wait you mean like pedestrian tunnels? |
| 18:27.28 | Charles_Bot | yes |
| 18:27.31 | ImpyDroid2 | Huh |
| 18:27.56 | Charles_Bot | An actual network of tunnels |
| 18:28.39 | ImpyDroid2 | For some reason I imagine hamster rubes |
| 18:28.41 | ImpyDroid2 | tubes |
| 18:29.18 | Charles_Bot | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/BnWACLOj/1469471353.JPG |
| 18:29.45 | Charles_Bot | Not too far away |
| 18:30.59 | DrodoAway | BRB |
| 18:32.15 | ImpyDroid2 | One thing I do not understand is why all subways outside of former USSR are so sterile |
| 18:32.23 | ImpyDroid2 | They are like plastic hamster tunes |
| 18:32.25 | ImpyDroid2 | tubes |
| 18:35.52 | Xho | cuz we dunt giv a shi |
| 18:36.06 | Xho | That being said our more modern underground stations are quite...well modern |
| 18:36.29 | Charles_Bot | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ZFHvOPvz/1469471786.JPG |
| 18:36.31 | Xho | The old stations are notorious for looking and smelling like toilets |
| 18:36.41 | Charles_Bot | Some tunnels look more cramped |
| 18:37.03 | Charles_Bot | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/zhIf7mbq/1469471819.JPG |
| 18:37.11 | Charles_Bot | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:37.28 | Charles_Bot | They put the House Appropriations committee on the basement |
| 18:38.30 | Xho | https://www.architecture.com/faa-images/7908_64731_5.jpg Westminster looks like something out of a near-futuristic scene |
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| 18:42.46 | Charles_Bot | There's a dedicated flag office https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/1AmeUp45/IMG_0821.JPG |
| 18:43.49 | Charles_Bot | These are all pictures I'm taking in real time |
| 18:44.45 | Xho | Where are you anyway |
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| 18:45.25 | Charles_Bot | Under the US Capitol building |
| 18:45.30 | dino82_ | hi |
| 18:45.41 | Charles_Bot | In the tunnels under it |
| 18:45.51 | OluapPlayer | Hi dino |
| 18:46.35 | Charles_Bot | Hey Dino! |
| 18:46.52 | dino82_ | howz all doing |
| 18:47.03 | Xho | My body is the embodiment of hell |
| 18:47.05 | Charles_Bot | This is all underground https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/4nwhZe0j/1469472415.JPG |
| 18:47.06 | Xho | Other than that ok |
| 18:47.37 | OluapPlayer | Quite bored |
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| 18:59.55 | Monet_2 | Charles_Bot: Pretty cool |
| 19:00.24 | Spluff5 | Were the Xhodocto once a normal race that just became ridiculously advanced or did they start that way? |
| 19:02.03 | OluapPlayer | They were always supernatural |
| 19:02.29 | OluapPlayer | Wiki-wise they started as hell demons and then got retconned into omniversal deities |
| 19:02.30 | Charles_Bot | Found a statue of the "Governor of the state of Franklin" |
| 19:02.35 | OluapPlayer | In-universe they were always omniversal deities |
| 19:02.47 | Charles_Bot | The state of Franklin never officially existed lol |
| 19:02.59 | Spluff5 | I wonder how long it would take a regular race to become as advanced as them. |
| 19:03.22 | OluapPlayer | It's downright impossible to reach their level |
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| 19:03.38 | Spluff5 | I bet you could get close though |
| 19:03.53 | OluapPlayer | They didn't achieve their current status, they exist simply as a fact |
| 19:04.03 | DrodoEmpire | Back >.< |
| 19:04.04 | Spluff5 | After like several billion years of technological advancement. |
| 19:04.34 | OluapPlayer | And even if you tried to reach their level, they can unthink you out of existence without any effort, no matter how advanced you might be |
| 19:04.41 | DrodoEmpire | Actually quick question because I'm curious- Is anyone here familiar with the Far Cry franchise? If so, have any of you played Far Cry 2? |
| 19:04.54 | OluapPlayer | Can't say I have |
| 19:04.59 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 19:05.25 | OluapPlayer | I've seem some clips of one of the games which had like a crocodile coming out of nowhere and biting the guy in the arm |
| 19:05.30 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 19:05.32 | OluapPlayer | bitch i dont wanna experience that |
| 19:05.38 | DrodoEmpire | Probably three, which is decent |
| 19:05.49 | DrodoEmpire | Two |
| 19:05.54 | DrodoEmpire | *Two's my favourite tho |
| 19:06.15 | Spluff5 | I don't mean as a potential way to rival them in the universe. I just said this as an interesting hypothetical. |
| 19:06.27 | DrodoEmpire | Most realistic, probably the most open-world of them all, and its *really* ambiguous morally-speaking, which I like |
| 19:06.43 | DrodoEmpire | I find three and especially four are fairly straightforward "good guy bad guy" stories |
| 19:07.44 | OluapPlayer | Can't say anything about it since I never played them but I like me some good vs bad when it's done right |
| 19:08.20 | DrodoEmpire | Oh definitely, me too |
| 19:08.24 | DrodoEmpire | But its not really what I play Far Cry for is the thing |
| 19:08.51 | Charles_Bot | The "blood stairs." We don't know whose blood this is or how it got there, all we know is that there's bloodstains in the marble of this staircase in the Capitol https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/CCb0UJjQ/IMG_0830.JPG |
| 19:09.10 | DrodoEmpire | o.O |
| 19:10.00 | Charles_Bot | Also, that's my leg |
| 19:10.20 | DrodoEmpire | Its very, er, leg-like...? |
| 19:10.23 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 19:17.28 | Charles_Bot | Lol |
| 19:17.31 | dino82_ | @great to hera! |
| 19:17.43 | dino82_ | See that something is rising with the Loron and France :D |
| 19:17.59 | dino82_ | @Xho: Writtena short part on the Voidwalker, feel free to continue! |
| 19:18.03 | dino82_ | on titanpad |
| 19:23.32 | The_Randomness | nice, just figured out how to do research stuff on my desktop at home after procrastinating doing so for a week |
| 19:24.41 | DrodoEmpire | Speaking of which |
| 19:24.48 | DrodoEmpire | Should we do voidwalker today? |
| 19:35.37 | Charles_Bot | Holy crap |
| 19:35.53 | Charles_Bot | The senate has its own train in its tunnels https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9wXs4FbO/1469475227.JPG |
| 19:35.54 | Charles_Bot | Why does the senate have all the nice things? |
| 19:37.07 | The_Randomness | :o |
| 19:37.22 | The_Randomness | that's cool |
| 19:37.42 | Wormy_ | Guess you need to move a lot of people around so it makes sense they have such facilities to move through, and its probably more secure. Oh and secret get-away trains in the event of a national disaster, nuclear war, alien invasion or robot uprising/. |
| 19:38.29 | The_Randomness | >or robot uprising |
| 19:38.30 | The_Randomness | :P |
| 19:39.23 | Wormy_ | At present one can only picture an army of rooombas |
| 19:39.30 | Wormy_ | *roombas |
| 19:39.35 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 19:41.19 | Charles_Bot | Most other countries walk |
| 19:41.33 | Charles_Bot | Americans are too fat, so they need a subway |
| 19:42.13 | The_Randomness | nice meme |
| 19:43.08 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 19:43.29 | The_Randomness | Wormy_: or your phone vibrating off the table, hoping to land on somebody's toes |
| 19:43.41 | DrodoEmpire | Technobliterator , would you be able to do fiction today? |
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| 19:44.38 | Charles_Bot | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/SsTauQZE/capturedvideo.mp4 |
| 19:44.41 | Wormy_ | Or Lego robots diving bombing under your feet |
| 19:44.46 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 19:45.23 | Charles_Bot | Video of riding in the thing |
| 19:45.41 | Wormy_ | Huh I remember riding in one of those shooting Ghouls in Fallout 3 |
| 19:51.24 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/JNsBj |
| 19:53.27 | OluapPlayer | Turns out you can pause and resume YT videos with the space bar |
| 19:53.33 | DrodoEmpire | "Finally, a weeb with standards." |
| 19:53.37 | OluapPlayer | Learned that by accident today |
| 19:53.46 | DrodoEmpire | You never knew? >., |
| 19:53.48 | DrodoEmpire | *>.< |
| 19:53.52 | OluapPlayer | Nope |
| 19:53.59 | The_Randomness | Yeah, I think it's been like that for a very long time |
| 19:53.59 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 19:54.03 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 19:54.12 | DrodoEmpire | I find its somewhat unreliable though |
| 19:54.16 | The_Randomness | but now you know \o/ |
| 19:54.25 | OluapPlayer | I've never had the need to press the space bar in a YT video |
| 19:54.28 | OluapPlayer | Always used the mouse |
| 19:54.51 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 19:54.52 | The_Randomness | I'm pretty sure it's fairly standard across most video playing/streaming services/programs |
| 19:55.00 | Charles_Bot | dino82_: if you want to respond to the Loron live box, please do! :D |
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| 20:11.59 | Spluff5 | Do dilatons exist in the canon? |
| 20:12.39 | Monet_2 | Define dilations. |
| 20:13.22 | Spluff5 | They're particles that at the start of the universe allowed the physical constants to change. |
| 20:13.51 | Spluff5 | If an empire could figure out how to create them imagine the possible tech. |
| 20:15.45 | Monet_2 | Can't say I've heard of them |
| 20:16.36 | Xho | I think he means time dilation |
| 20:16.42 | Xho | Possibly |
| 20:16.47 | Xho | I dunno I'm not a science guy |
| 20:17.07 | The_Randomness | Wormy might've heard of them, but this sounds like weird stuff to me |
| 20:17.30 | Spluff5 | Nah, not time dilation. Although that's cool too. |
| 20:18.09 | Spluff5 | http://listverse.com/2015/12/29/10-strange-theoretical-subatomic-particles/ |
| 20:18.20 | Spluff5 | This has got some stuff on it. |
| 20:18.51 | Spluff5 | Imagine the weapons you could make if you could change the fundamental constants of the universe on a local scale though. |
| 20:19.09 | Xho | >string theory |
| 20:19.16 | Spluff5 | And the power sources |
| 20:19.18 | Xho | I dunno how far into string theory the wiki goes |
| 20:19.32 | The_Randomness | >string theory LUL |
| 20:20.40 | The_Randomness | Spluff5: I'd personally stay away from stuff that modifies metrics, since they honestly require a good bit of understanding why these metrics are important to figure out what they do |
| 20:20.50 | The_Randomness | And they basically require space magic technology to do them |
| 20:20.52 | The_Randomness | *to use |
| 20:22.17 | Spluff5 | KK |
| 20:22.33 | Spluff5 | My empire isn't even close to that stage anyway. |
| 20:22.39 | The_Randomness | If you actually want to learn more about them, I'd talk to Wormy or Ghelae when they're around |
| 20:22.57 | Spluff5 | yeah, they're the tech guys aren't they |
| 20:23.07 | Spluff5 | Are they actually scientists? |
| 20:23.31 | The_Randomness | Wormy does geophysics, I don't know about Ghelae, but I'd assume he does physics |
| 20:25.00 | OluapPlayer | Xho: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn8UNDZW8AE661h.jpg |
| 20:25.19 | Xho | Words to live by |
| 20:25.45 | OluapPlayer | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoKaKZmUsAApRV6.jpg TF2 today |
| 20:28.19 | drom | sings |
| 20:28.36 | Xho | More or less |
| 20:29.24 | Monet_2 | http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/259339376696697191/CBB8B14D09813BC2BFBE880FC3826CA3F18757C0/ I erm...made a whoopsie. |
| 20:30.03 | drom | Love me some Hitman |
| 20:31.02 | drom | Ugh, I should go and disable 'buffextras' |
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| 20:32.26 | Monet_2 | I love how despite the fact the guy I borrowed this outfit from had long golden hair, everyone was acting like "hey buddy! Didn't notice the new haircut" |
| 20:40.18 | Monet_2 | Another target I killed was pretty funny. |
| 20:40.24 | DrodoEmpire | Oh? |
| 20:41.14 | Monet_2 | He was a Moroccan general, his base was in an old schoolhouse, I sneakily turned on the PA system while two guards were talking shit about him. |
| 20:42.02 | Monet_2 | When he heard he decided to scold them from a first-floor hole into the room below. |
| 20:42.30 | Monet_2 | I pushed him off the ledge and into the arms of his comrades lol. |
| 20:42.40 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 20:45.26 | Monet_2 | Those moral guardians might be right; Hitman is *kind of* a murder simulator. |
| 20:46.09 | DrodoEmpire | Sure, but its also just a game |
| 20:46.16 | Monet_2 | Just a game sure |
| 20:46.28 | Monet_2 | That and all your targets are scumbags in one way or another. |
| 20:46.50 | DrodoEmpire | People have been doing and depicting vile things for their entertainment since the beginning of history- video games are no different nowhere near as bad |
| 20:46.59 | DrodoEmpire | *and nowhere |
| 20:47.08 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah exactly |
| 20:47.12 | DrodoEmpire | At the very least you're an anti-hero |
| 20:50.08 | Monet_2 | The guy I drowned after spiking his cocktail? Russian oligarch, FSB mark and criminal information broker. The lady I duped with romance? A career woman developing a super-virus, that suit? Embezzled six billion dollars from the Moroccan people. The general? He was planning a coup, financially backed by the suit. |
| 20:50.57 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah exactly |
| 20:51.22 | Monet_2 | The guy I served poisoned pasta to then kicked off a ledge? head researcher of said super-virus and had to go for the company to redirect interest. |
| 20:51.42 | DrodoEmpire | Its not like the game telling you to assassinate Gandhi >.< |
| 20:51.54 | DrodoEmpire | *game is telling you |
| 20:52.13 | Monet_2 | Then again they're not Dick Dasterdly either. |
| 20:52.18 | OluapPlayer | You play Civ against him for that |
| 20:52.23 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 20:52.45 | Monet_2 | Said Russian Oligarch for instance wanted to quit the brokering business and become a full-time fashion guru. |
| 20:57.00 | Monet_2 | The career woman was...well a career woman - the fact she was developing a new way to kill people was something she found herself doing in order to climb the corporate ladder. |
| 20:57.12 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 20:57.49 | Xho | http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/830/217/168.gif Still remains as one of my favourite gifs |
| 20:58.23 | DrodoEmpire | ololol |
| 21:03.51 | Monet_2 | As for the suit? He's just your average corrupt millionaire banker. |
| 21:04.31 | Wormy_ | Hi |
| 21:05.04 | Monet_2 | One of the benefits of pretending to be a guy's masseuse: You get to hear the dirty secrets and dark opinions they have. |
| 21:05.41 | The_Randomness | wb Wormy |
| 21:08.25 | Wormy_ | I was doing geophysics, geology, planetary science etc., but computer science and graphics grabbed me in the end. I'd love to find some niche between the two fields one day, like visualisation or modelling. |
| 21:09.02 | Wormy_ | Although I have sort of found it: making visualisations for my lecturers |
| 21:09.35 | Wormy_ | I think Ghel has done the whole of natural sciences, physics, chemistry and biology |
| 21:18.18 | Wormy_ | Geological explanations generally involve all three of those in varying ways |
| 21:18.49 | The_Randomness | yeah |
| 21:19.38 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13769524_1749926425290267_8629992525210076717_n.jpg?oh=fb5ec910b94ca46fd8b7ff7d16a008c0&oe=5812DE40 we wuz kangz |
| 21:21.33 | Ghelaway | [21:23] <@The_Randomness> Wormy does geophysics, I don't know about Ghelae, but I'd assume he does physics |
| 21:21.43 | Ghelaway | I should probably have mentioned: I graduated on Thursday. |
| 21:21.47 | The_Randomness | :o |
| 21:21.48 | Ghelaway | I am now officially a Master of Science. |
| 21:22.03 | Ghelaway | My degree was Natural Sciences, but I specialised in theoretical physics. |
| 21:22.18 | Technobliterator | :o |
| 21:22.19 | Ghelaway | As for dilatons: that article Spluff linked to was absolutely awful. |
| 21:22.20 | Technobliterator | niiice |
| 21:22.21 | Wormy_ | Ghel's probably better off explaining the dilaton when Spluff comes back, but I think its some kind of hypothetical dynamic field particle that arises in theories with extra dimensions. It might be related to the inflaton particle, I'm not sure which Spluff was referring to, a kind of field that decayed to a lower vacuum state releasing the familiar matter particles |
| 21:22.36 | The_Randomness | Ghelaway: I'd hardly even call it an article |
| 21:22.38 | Technobliterator | I am not sure why an artificial intelligence would need a degree, however :P |
| 21:22.55 | Wormy_ | I didn't see the article |
| 21:23.13 | Ghelaway | Basically, the dilaton is a string theory concept, but it's related to a simpler idea called the radion, and the radion is basically the size of extra dimensions. |
| 21:23.20 | Ghelaway | + quantised gravity |
| 21:23.23 | Xho | Ghelae: Master of Science |
| 21:23.28 | Xho | well that's a title |
| 21:23.34 | Ghelaway | This exists in the SporeWikiverse, so we do have dilatons. |
| 21:23.41 | Wormy_ | Congrats Ghelae |
| 21:24.14 | Ghelaway | And their effects: if you increase or decrease the size of the extra dimensions - i.e. make hyperspace fatter or thinner - you can weaken or strengthen the gravitational constant. |
| 21:25.06 | Ghelaway | So this is probably how artificial gravity and negative mass technologies are made feasible. You use manageable amounts of inertia, but make the gravitational constant huge to make their gravitational effects much stronger. |
| 21:26.56 | Ghelaway | Oh, and thanks everyone. |
| 21:27.04 | Monet_2 | Technobliterator: Stuff like SIRI seems like something you'd need a Master's degree of knowledge to figure out. |
| 21:27.37 | Wormy_ | I'm starting my Masters this September |
| 21:27.55 | Xho | Wish I had a degree in something |
| 21:28.00 | Xho | Although I have zero patience for that |
| 21:28.18 | Monet_2 | Either that or I guess needing a degree comes from the fact AI studies really took off at MIT. |
| 21:30.06 | Wormy_ | I think Techno meant being an AI means you don't need a degree |
| 21:30.28 | Xho | inb4 ghelae is not actually an ai |
| 21:30.46 | Wormy_ | Well, he doesn't look like an AI, but he could be a Synth |
| 21:31.05 | Monet_2 | ...yeah I...I completely missed that joke. |
| 21:31.28 | Wormy_ | Synths can look very convincing https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Mw0uAHrYIBk/hqdefault.jpg |
| 21:31.29 | Monet_2 | Then again there is the proposed bottom-up approach to AI construction. |
| 21:32.35 | Monet_2 | Which builds an AI's personality and knowledge the same way children gain theirs. |
| 21:34.29 | Wormy_ | Yes, I myself am interested in that approach. |
| 21:34.41 | Technobliterator | Well, I guess you guys may miss the joke now because you've met him in person |
| 21:34.49 | Technobliterator | so it no longer seems like a legit theory |
| 21:35.12 | Wormy_ | Well I haven't quite ruled out somekind of Synth |
| 21:36.05 | Wormy_ | But trying to pull the mask off someone turning up to your degree show is rather rude. |
| 21:36.57 | The_Randomness | Monet_2: I think I brought that up last month |
| 21:42.21 | Ghelaway | Wormy_: Not to mention potentially embarrassing if it turns out they aren't wearing a mask. |
| 21:43.45 | Wormy_ | That too, would be a real 'Little Britain' moment |
| 21:44.51 | Wormy_ | or perhaps a Rowan Atkinson moment |
| 21:59.11 | Xho | There's been some crazy attack in Japan now |
| 22:06.22 | Wormy_ | https://twitter.com/bgreene/status/757654776121331712 |
| 22:09.28 | The_Randomness | Wormy_: I like this tweet |
| 22:12.24 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/SDcxu |
| 22:12.52 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/dLm1u5x |
| 22:13.49 | The_Randomness | Wormy_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxM9BZeRrUI NEW CRASH COURSE PHILOSOPHY |
| 22:15.02 | Wormy_ | awesome |
| 22:16.24 | Wormy_ | Would love to have this http://i.imgur.com/udQPuzU.png + http://i.imgur.com/Q3qwbO6.png |
| 22:16.34 | Wormy_ | Morehttp://imgur.com/gallery/N0yaH |
| 22:16.35 | The_Randomness | ^ |
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| 22:30.30 | Wormy_ | Random: I think I've always leaned on *Sentience*, agency enacted by a central nervous system, but that perhaps includes too many categories. For example I think humans suffer more than other animals, and we have more ability to reason and use creativity (hence, we can contemplate and lament our own suffering, which is more than just pain and fear. Not saying animals don't suffer at all, but perhaps less). |
| 22:30.57 | Wormy_ | So that suggests some grading criteria |
| 22:31.24 | Wormy_ | It may be one of those things we can't make certain generalisations of |
| 22:33.10 | The_Randomness | I'll think about this some more later, but cognitive and gradation combined seem good to me |
| 22:38.35 | Monet_2 | I wonder if the use of a learning/additive method of developing an AI is what make the Imperium's Aeon engines so potent and trustworthy. |
| 22:39.35 | Wormy_ | The cognitive criteria seemed okay, but we still don't fully understand how those criteria relate, and certainly aren't absolutes in any-one person (like babies having less or no self-awareness, though I don't think it means they are not conscious of things) |
| 22:40.21 | Wormy_ | I thought it was more than babies couldn't distinguish the actions of others, or empaphise the emotions of others as other beings with separate agency |
| 22:40.25 | Wormy_ | *that |
| 22:43.46 | Wormy_ | I guess the sentience option of personhood still excludes people/humans in a vegetative state, and foetuses until a certain stage, and allows for certain animals to acquire personhood. But it doesn't help define human-persons, which have the cognitive criteria as mentioned |
| 22:46.46 | The_Randomness | right |
| 22:50.06 | Wormy_ | I was just thinking though, there's lots of things that exhibit intelligent agency without a CNS. Like slime mould. |
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| 22:53.30 | Wormy_ | hi |
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| 23:07.07 | Quark8 | Hello. |
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| 23:08.26 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 23:08.51 | Spluff5 | Hullo |
| 23:09.35 | Wormy_ | Ghelae responded about dilatons as you were gone (and he's done a Master in theoretical physics, so we are lucky to have him with us) |
| 23:09.41 | Wormy_ | huh |
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| 23:11.05 | Wormy_ | Don't quit too quickly! lol |
| 23:11.10 | Wormy_ | Ghelae responded about dilatons as you were gone (and he's done a Master in theoretical physics, so we are lucky to have him with us) |
| 23:11.27 | Wormy_ | You want to hear it? |
| 23:11.31 | Spluff5 | Yeah, what did he say? |
| 23:11.45 | Wormy_ | <@Ghelaway> Basically, the dilaton is a string theory concept, but it's related to a simpler idea called the radion, and the radion is basically the size of extra dimensions. |
| 23:12.09 | Wormy_ | <@Ghelaway> And their effects: if you increase or decrease the size of the extra dimensions - i.e. make hyperspace fatter or thinner - you can weaken or strengthen the gravitational constant. |
| 23:12.20 | Wormy_ | <@Ghelaway> So this is probably how artificial gravity and negative mass technologies are made feasible. You use manageable amounts of inertia, but make the gravitational constant huge to make their gravitational effects much stronger. |
| 23:12.32 | Wormy_ | I give up |
| 23:12.52 | Wormy_ | Not the first time he's done it to us. |
| 23:13.17 | Quark8 | Is it intentional? |
| 23:14.18 | Wormy_ | I doubt it, but it may be a lack of patience, interest, or merely doesn't realise IRC comments come in several lines. |
| 23:14.34 | Quark8 | Ah. |
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| 23:15.43 | Spluff5 | I don't know why it keeps quitting me. |
| 23:15.53 | Wormy_ | [00:12] <Wormy_> <@Ghelaway> And their effects: if you increase or decrease the size of the extra dimensions - i.e. make hyperspace fatter or thinner - you can weaken or strengthen the gravitational constant. [00:12] <Wormy_> <@Ghelaway> So this is probably how artificial gravity and negative mass technologies are made feasible. You use manageable amounts of inertia, but make the gravitational constant huge to make their gravitati |
| 23:16.18 | Wormy_ | I guess it could be IRC trouble then |
| 23:16.39 | *** join/#sporewiki Spluff5 (d237baa5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.210.55.186.165) |
| 23:16.53 | Wormy_ | I would try a new client |
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| 23:18.26 | *** join/#sporewiki Spluff5 (d237baa5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.210.55.186.165) |
| 23:18.33 | Spluff5 | Let's try that |
| 23:18.34 | Wormy_ | What client are you using? |
| 23:19.03 | Spluff5 | I was trying Kiwi IRC but I've just gone back to regular Freenode. |
| 23:19.17 | Wormy_ | Seems to be a bit more stable now |
| 23:19.28 | Wormy_ | 00:15] <Wormy_> [00:12] <Wormy_> <@Ghelaway> And their effects: if you increase or decrease the size of the extra dimensions - i.e. make hyperspace fatter or thinner - you can weaken or strengthen the gravitational constant. [00:12] <Wormy_> <@Ghelaway> So this is probably how artificial gravity and negative mass technologies are made feasible. You use manageable amounts of inertia, but make the gravitational constant huge to make |
| 23:19.54 | Wormy_ | *much stronger |
| 23:20.35 | Wormy_ | So dilatons would exist in the SporeWikiverse |
| 23:23.27 | Spluff5 | Col |
