| 00:03.52 | The_Randomness | Part of me is tempted to ping both Charles just to see which is the real one |
| 00:05.15 | DrodoEmpire | I do that when I need him >.< |
| 00:05.34 | DrodoEmpire | I ping both things on IRC, and sometimes shoot him a message on steam too |
| 00:05.37 | The_Randomness | Charles_Bot Charles_Murray: *poke* |
| 00:09.08 | Monet_2 | Well I just had an interesting experience. |
| 00:09.15 | The_Randomness | hm? |
| 00:09.44 | Monet_2 | Binge-watching Wisecrack's philosophical videos, and I just got an advert for an upcoming film: King Arthur. |
| 00:10.38 | Monet_2 | Interesting pairing. |
| 00:10.43 | The_Randomness | I usually just get ads for shitty horror movies for some reason |
| 00:11.41 | Monet_2 | One of the videos I watched was their analysis of Deadpool. That talks a lot about postmodern media. |
| 00:12.06 | Wormy_away | Two trailers I watched tonight: Wonder Woman, and Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them |
| 00:12.11 | Monet_2 | SO it's quite funny that's not long followed by an advert for an upcoming adaptation to a story that's been done to absolute bloody death. |
| 00:12.31 | The_Randomness | :P |
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| 00:12.52 | Wormy_away | hi |
| 00:12.55 | Tybusen_ | Hello |
| 00:14.15 | Monet_2 | Hi |
| 00:15.33 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 00:15.45 | Monet_2 | I'm not against a new King Arthur film (although this one seems to focus on that classic tale of a commoner becoming king), it's just a funny thing to come up after watching a video n a film that criticises meta-narratives and the comflict of black and white, good vs evil. |
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| 00:16.55 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 00:17.05 | The_Randomness | Hello |
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| 00:21.16 | Wormy_away | Random, Monet: I noticed the USS Discovery looks like Ralph McQuarrie's design https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/90/Phase_II_Enterprise.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxba2WjlN90 |
| 00:21.39 | Wormy_away | I'm not that impressed with the CGI to be honest. |
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| 00:23.51 | The_Randomness | I heard about that |
| 00:24.46 | The_Randomness | After somebody said it looks like a D7 flipped upside down with a saucer attached, I can't get that out of my mine |
| 00:24.48 | The_Randomness | *mind |
| 00:26.09 | The_Randomness | I need to go see the new Star Trek movie >_> |
| 00:27.54 | Monet_2 | CG looks a little dated. |
| 00:28.01 | The_Randomness | yeah |
| 00:28.20 | Wormy_away | https://twitter.com/PessimistsArc/status/756899651735920640 |
| 00:28.23 | Monet_2 | Not that I can watch the series anyway *glares at CNN* |
| 00:28.29 | Wormy_away | Enterprise CG looked better |
| 00:28.30 | Monet_2 | CBS* |
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| 00:34.17 | Spluff5 | I'm back from travel now Yay |
| 00:37.27 | Wormy_away | https://twitter.com/PessimistsArc/status/740204959896047616 |
| 00:38.13 | Wormy_away | https://twitter.com/Yamisel_/status/738218608245932032 |
| 00:42.27 | Liquid_Ink | Yeah, back then they didn't think women were capable of telling reality from fiction, so novel reading as bad |
| 00:44.58 | Wormy_away | Only in Fallout https://twitter.com/RudyHavenstein/status/731882633311883265 |
| 00:45.27 | Wormy_away | Liquid: That explains it |
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| 01:01.01 | Wormy_away | http://imgur.com/gallery/iZ6vj |
| 01:09.55 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 01:10.46 | DrodoEmpire | There's actually a lot of people on- strange its so quiet |
| 01:11.34 | OluapPlayer | There's nothing to talk about atm |
| 01:12.54 | DrodoEmpire | Eh fair enough |
| 01:15.05 | Spluff5 | Is there some way to create your own navbox so you can just insert code into each page that will be updated across all of them as you change it? |
| 01:15.28 | Technobliterator | Uh, yeah? |
| 01:15.35 | Technobliterator | That's what everyone does |
| 01:15.53 | DrodoEmpire | I believe you just make and update the template page when it comes to navboxe |
| 01:15.54 | DrodoEmpire | *s |
| 01:16.03 | DrodoEmpire | I'm no expert though |
| 01:49.19 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Hard_Contact - New fiction with Tech |
| 01:49.38 | OluapPlayer | I read it before you posted |
| 01:49.40 | OluapPlayer | Interesting stuff |
| 01:49.48 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, thanks :D |
| 01:50.14 | OluapPlayer | If you don't mind I'll add it to Borealis's timeline |
| 01:51.17 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah go head |
| 01:51.20 | DrodoEmpire | *ahead |
| 01:55.38 | DrodoEmpire | So I just realised- Somalia's so war-torn its had nine battles and at least one siege within the course of twenty years o.O |
| 01:56.00 | DrodoEmpire | *Sorry, Mogadishu's had nine battles and a siege |
| 02:00.00 | DrodoEmpire | (Though that being said, it seems Somalia's been recovering from that period of civil war since ~2012) |
| 02:00.20 | DrodoEmpire | (Mogadishu doesn't actually look like that bad of a city really) |
| 02:00.24 | DrodoEmpire | (Nowadays) |
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| 02:24.29 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 02:24.35 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 02:27.43 | The_Randomness | I don't know if you guys watch this channel, but the most recent vlogbrothers videos have been really good |
| 02:27.57 | DrodoEmpire | Huh. |
| 02:28.02 | DrodoEmpire | I used to watch that channel |
| 02:35.39 | Wormy_away | I watch some of their other channels |
| 02:35.42 | Wormy_away | goodnight |
| 03:15.56 | DrodoEmpire | test |
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| 03:17.30 | NeonPanda | hi all |
| 03:17.42 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 03:22.43 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 03:22.56 | The_Randomness | Hey |
| 03:28.40 | The_Randomness | NeonPanda: I finally have some good news, after this week my schedule will finally start to relax, at least until classes start in September. I'll have stuff for at least the next session done by next Saturday |
| 03:28.58 | NeonPanda | lovely |
| 03:53.58 | DrodoEmpire | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7znmG8m2Is - sums up my experience as a rebel in hl2rp <.< |
| 03:54.37 | DrodoEmpire | Get free shit -> Go on a few rampages -> almost/do get caught/killed |
| 04:09.46 | NeonPanda | probably has something to do with going on rampages |
| 04:10.43 | The_Randomness | :P |
| 04:13.09 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 04:13.20 | DrodoEmpire | Actually to be fair I was on some pretty kickass operations as a rebel |
| 04:13.33 | NeonPanda | fair enough then :P |
| 04:13.35 | DrodoEmpire | Including the kidnapping of a mole and roughing that guy up a bit |
| 04:13.51 | DrodoEmpire | I was ordered to shoot him in the leg and it was my first mission too >.< |
| 04:14.17 | NeonPanda | I decided to join a different SWRP server for a while before I quit the gametype entirely, after about two hours I was offered commander of a regiment |
| 04:14.26 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 04:14.31 | NeonPanda | I then asked why, the answer being "literally everyone else is shit" and I decided not to accept that offer |
| 04:14.37 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 04:14.37 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 04:15.43 | NeonPanda | it was ImperialRP rather than CloneWars, so it was pretty neat being a Stormtrooper for a while- they had NPC sand people who'd attack the settlement every so often |
| 04:15.58 | NeonPanda | rather than being on a ship and doing shit all |
| 04:16.36 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 04:17.09 | NeonPanda | they actually had a ton of content compared to the so called "best server" in Australia, and they were just new |
| 04:17.25 | DrodoEmpire | Ah, right |
| 04:18.07 | NeonPanda | like there were four critical systems (power core, sand barriers, climate control and security) that all had a chance of breaking down every hour, so engineers basically always had something to do |
| 04:18.33 | DrodoEmpire | That actually sounds like a cool feature |
| 04:19.20 | NeonPanda | it was, cos normally "engineerRP" either consists of blindly whacking something useless with a crowbar (what most people do) or standing around a console pretending to do something (what sensible people do, because it doesn't look dumb) |
| 04:19.41 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 04:19.57 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 04:20.55 | NeonPanda | it never ceased to amuse me when people walked up thinking I was doing nothing, then I had a new RP reason why I was standing in front of that particular console |
| 04:21.50 | DrodoEmpire | lul |
| 04:22.32 | DrodoEmpire | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwSl97NB8YQ - The best part of surf servers are the freestyles |
| 04:22.51 | DrodoEmpire | I've heard some really fucking good ones, I've heard some really fucking bad ones- its fun either way |
| 04:24.34 | NeonPanda | oh and of course the best thing about new servers full of kids: they all act like chickenshit the moment anyone shows any authority whatsoever, so I managed to boss around a couple of Jedi for a bit :P |
| 04:25.00 | DrodoEmpire | ololol |
| 04:28.19 | DrodoEmpire | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2XuYND9heI ohhh my god |
| 04:28.26 | DrodoEmpire | You meet some interesting people in CSGO |
| 04:30.24 | DrodoEmpire | I think the most impressive part if that he's still playing as he sings <.< |
| 04:30.28 | DrodoEmpire | *is that |
| 04:30.52 | NeonPanda | agreed |
| 04:52.54 | The_Randomness | Alright, I'm off for tonight, bye guys |
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| 07:55.28 | Spluf5 | In the fiction, what qualifies as a "saga"? |
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| 10:33.48 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
| 10:35.03 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 10:40.39 | Monet | hi |
| 10:55.30 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
| 10:55.36 | ImpyDroid | Spluf5: Several large stories |
| 10:56.06 | ImpyDroid | Monet AdmiralPanda: How sensible would it be to rival a race of "peaceful observer" precursors in Stellaris? |
| 10:56.21 | AdmiralPanda | rivalling a fallen empire is dumb period |
| 10:56.33 | AdmiralPanda | because peaceful is a lie |
| 11:02.58 | Monet | They're more like "We want to be left alone" |
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| 12:12.52 | Monet | Hello |
| 12:13.15 | OluapPlayer | hi |
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| 12:19.10 | Hachiman | Hello |
| 12:20.13 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
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| 12:20.21 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 12:21.01 | AdmiralPanda | hi all who just joined |
| 12:23.33 | Monet | Hi |
| 12:32.12 | Wormy_ | Hachiman "send him to outer space, to find another place" http://i.imgur.com/20Syb0F.jpg |
| 12:32.31 | Hachiman | kek |
| 12:34.38 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/egCQDRG.png |
| 12:38.18 | Wormy_ | Imgur sends me here http://www.amazon.com/Haribo-Sugar-Free-Gummy-Bears/product-reviews/B008JELLCA |
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| 13:24.59 | Cyrannian | Hello everyone |
| 13:25.06 | OluapPlayer | ~punch Cyrannian |
| 13:25.06 | infobot | ACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Cyrannian right on the nose |
| 13:25.13 | Cyrannian | ~tickle OluapPlayer |
| 13:25.13 | infobot | ACTION jumps on OluapPlayer, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!" |
| 13:27.06 | Wormy_ | force feeds Cyrannian a 2 kg bag of Haribo sugar free gummy bears |
| 13:27.34 | Cyrannian | now has the Haribo song stuck in his head |
| 13:29.03 | Wormy_ | Now hum to that when you sit on the toilet http://www.amazon.com/Haribo-Sugar-Free-Gummy-Bears/product-reviews/B008JELLCA |
| 13:29.57 | Cyrannian | hur the top two reviews |
| 13:38.42 | Monet | This is why I am suspicious of anything sweet but sugar-free |
| 13:41.28 | Monet | "Customers who bought this also bought: |
| 13:41.28 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:41.28 | Monet | , 4 pack of baby wipes, |
| 13:41.28 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:41.28 | Monet | , Air Freshener |
| 13:41.28 | Monet | , Coffee straws |
| 13:41.30 | Monet | , Gatorade |
| 13:41.32 | Monet | , Bullets" |
| 13:43.50 | Monet | http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2ADI6XEFO008J/ref=cm_cr_getr_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B008JELLCA |
| 13:50.15 | Monet | Whatever this sugar substitute is, it's practically a chemical weapon by the sounds of it. |
| 13:52.44 | AdmiralPanda | oh god I need a massive bag of that to send to my old highschool |
| 13:56.08 | Monet | Playing Starbound atm and...well this is how hard it is raining http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/259339376691432498/AAB47650B753BDC87A5B8EFF94976B21E70AD195/ |
| 13:56.27 | Monet | The rain is coming in at a 50 degree angle! |
| 13:57.15 | AdmiralPanda | unrelated note: Monet: what's the general progression pattern for GTA Online? As in, I take it there's side jobs and whatnot that you do to build up money to eventually buy in to higher-level jobs e.t.c. |
| 13:58.28 | Monet | In a way. Hang on |
| 13:58.55 | AdmiralPanda | also, I never liked Starbound- it just seemed really odd how out of whack the crafting went, like you have a spaceship and yet you're building bows |
| 14:00.50 | Monet | I always thought of it as you were a refugee, you have a spaceship, sure, but nothing on board to porduce advanced equipment |
| 14:01.00 | Wormy_ | For some reason the sweets contain Lycasin, a laxative |
| 14:02.02 | Wormy_ | You'd think they would remove from the product by now |
| 14:02.32 | Wormy_ | People buy sugarless sweets to not feel guilty eating large amounts, but you can't eat more than a few of these |
| 14:02.34 | Monet | 1.0 finally added a tutorial/intro story that shows that you basically take your ship as the first escape vessel you can find. |
| 14:03.38 | Monet | Anyway about progression in GTA. Guns and contact abilities are really the only things that are level-locked |
| 14:04.13 | Monet | But there are a number of guns you can get form level 1 that level the playing field a little. |
| 14:06.05 | AdmiralPanda | right, and what do you do to increase your level? |
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| 14:06.32 | Monet | Do missions. |
| 14:06.35 | Monet | Hi |
| 14:06.47 | Monet | Leveling is quite pacey I find. |
| 14:07.03 | AdmiralPanda | as in fast-paced or slow-paced? |
| 14:07.18 | Monet | Any kind of activity adds to your level. |
| 14:07.31 | Monet | Even being in the same car as friends can give you XP |
| 14:08.21 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 14:14.37 | Monet | You can get XP by taking part in races, for instance. |
| 14:20.07 | AdmiralPanda | so what you're saying is, the moment I get in I can basically just start dicking around doing stupid things with friends and I'll level up eventually |
| 14:21.56 | Monet | Yeah prettymuch. |
| 14:22.10 | AdmiralPanda | sweet |
| 14:25.44 | Monet | Robbing stores is one way to make some small money |
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| 14:53.33 | Wormy_ | https://twitter.com/MichaelCholbi/status/756928606706688000 |
| 14:55.29 | Wormy_ | Monet: Its customary on the last stage to drink champagne, but Froome chose beer https://twitter.com/inCycleTV/status/757224820241235968 |
| 14:56.06 | Wormy_ | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoI2WihWIAAnvqA.jpg |
| 15:04.05 | Monet | Wormy_away: But its custom |
| 15:04.08 | Monet | it's* |
| 15:12.46 | AdmiralPanda | "Question: I know vehicles aren't allowed, but are... giant... helicopter-shaped... bullets... allowed?" - proceeds to use a helicopter to try to ram people |
| 15:15.15 | Charles_Bot | AdmiralPanda: What game lol? |
| 15:15.48 | AdmiralPanda | DayZ |
| 15:16.14 | AdmiralPanda | several years ago, watching old highlight videos from my friends group |
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| 15:46.24 | Charles_Murray | test |
| 15:47.17 | Charles_Murray | Hnng |
| 15:47.28 | Charles_Murray | Watching a "Philosophy of Fallout" video |
| 15:47.56 | Charles_Murray | The guy tries to explain the real-life Cold War in 2 minutes, and it's so cringeworthy |
| 15:53.50 | Monet | It's...hard yeah |
| 15:55.20 | AdmiralPanda | most major historical events can't really be described in less than 2 minutes beyond a parody-level summary |
| 15:56.05 | Charles_Murray | Well, it's less about that and more about the fact that he's explaining it all in the wrong order, with the wrong cause-to-effect relationships, and with the wrong terminology. |
| 15:56.37 | AdmiralPanda | ah so it's not that he's being overly brief, it's that he's wrong |
| 15:57.19 | Charles_Murray | For example, he refers to "mutually assured destruction" as "a policy meant to deter against atomic warfare" |
| 15:57.29 | Charles_Murray | Which... I mean I guess? |
| 15:58.03 | Monet | It deterred against atomic warfare, but yeah wouldn't call it a policy |
| 15:58.48 | AdmiralPanda | I mean it's not like a government sat down and said "Part of our government platform is having a plan to fuck shit up on the nuclear level in order to prevent others from fucking us up on the nuclear level" |
| 15:58.56 | Charles_Murray | ^ |
| 15:59.14 | Charles_Murray | Let me try to describe the cold war in as few words as possible |
| 15:59.21 | Charles_Murray | Just to see if I can do it |
| 15:59.50 | Monet | Okay |
| 16:01.54 | Monet | Though Fallout does appear to follow the logic that the Cold War was about capitalism vs communism and everyoen was afraid of using the atomic bomb again. |
| 16:04.04 | Charles_Murray | The Cold War an intense rivalry which lasted from 1945 to 1991 between two dominant nuclear superpowers, the United States and the Soviet Union. Due to an unprecedented concentration of conventional and nuclear force in the hands of these two states, they acted as opposite "poles" in a bipolar world order > |
| 16:06.31 | AdmiralPanda | don't forget that in the Fallout universe, everyone was actually pretty chill after the first bombs, it was only when China became prominent that their equivalent of the cold war happened, which actually was communism v capitalism |
| 16:07.23 | Monet | I thought what happened was Russia became inept like it did in our time and China rose to take its place as the leading Communist superpower. |
| 16:07.52 | Charles_Murray | . Paradoxically, despite the intense diplomatic climate and the unprecedented weapons available to states in assuring their interests, the Cold War was also one of the most peaceful periods in our history. It was precisely the overwhelming destructive power of these weapons which consistently deterred the superpowers and great powers from going to war with each other. |
| 16:08.59 | AdmiralPanda | Monet: well that too, but instead of the fear of technology that the bombs somewhat helped usher in, everyone jumped on the nuclear tech bandwagon |
| 16:09.01 | Charles_Murray | I could add: ", instead playing out their rivalries through peripheral conflicts, diplomatic brinkmanship, and other bit moves." |
| 16:09.08 | Charles_Murray | What do you guys think? |
| 16:09.34 | AdmiralPanda | Charles: I could summarise that much shorter and much more sarcastically, but yours was accurate, which I suppose was the point |
| 16:09.56 | Monet | Jared can be quite sarcastic fellow. |
| 16:10.33 | AdmiralPanda | wait was this a game theory video that sparked this? |
| 16:10.47 | Charles_Murray | Nah, another more obscure channel |
| 16:11.01 | AdmiralPanda | I see, cost game theory is full of numpty |
| 16:11.08 | Monet | This is Wisecrack. |
| 16:11.11 | AdmiralPanda | so I was about to say "why are you surprised" |
| 16:11.12 | Charles_Murray | AdmiralPanda: Actually, IRL there was a craze over nuclear energy and radiation; people actually paid extra to buy stuff that was "radioactive" before they understood that, er, it was harmful for you. |
| 16:11.20 | Charles_Murray | Not wisecrack |
| 16:11.28 | Charles_Murray | Wisecrack was quite good |
| 16:11.46 | Monet | Ah I was confused them. |
| 16:11.57 | AdmiralPanda | Charles: I'm aware of that, but in the Fallout verse even *after* everyone knew just how potentially shit-up-fucking it could be, they made commercially available nuclear powered cars |
| 16:12.06 | Charles_Murray | Ah, got it |
| 16:12.07 | AdmiralPanda | and there's so many of them there's still unexploded ones two hundred years later |
| 16:12.10 | Monet | You said it was "Philosophy of Fallout" - which is pretty-much the title of his analysis. |
| 16:12.30 | Charles_Murray | Also the title of this video |
| 16:12.36 | Charles_Murray | "The Philosophy of Fallout [Divergence, Economy, Factions]" |
| 16:12.49 | AdmiralPanda | they also made giant death robots that throw nukes like footballs. I'm not joking |
| 16:13.00 | Charles_Murray | I was particularly amused by that |
| 16:13.05 | AdmiralPanda | speaking of Fallout's economy, the number of people who don't realise why bottlecaps are used as currency amuses me |
| 16:13.11 | Charles_Murray | "DEATH IS A PREFERABLE ALTERNATIVE TO COMMUNISM" |
| 16:13.15 | AdmiralPanda | discounting of course the people who don't put any thought into it |
| 16:13.27 | Monet | Insert obligatory "DEATH IS A PREFERABLE ALTERNATIVE TO COMMUNISM" joke* |
| 16:13.51 | Monet | Synchronisation right there. |
| 16:13.57 | Charles_Murray | ^ |
| 16:14.27 | AdmiralPanda | "OBSTRUCTION TO TARGET: CONCRETE, SOIL, ROCK, AND COMMUNISM. DEPTH: FIVE METRES. CHANCE OF MISSION HINDRANCE: ZERO PERCENT" |
| 16:14.56 | AdmiralPanda | I did somewhat wonder how much of that depth was made up of communism |
| 16:14.59 | Charles_Murray | AdmiralPanda : I just started the Fallout series, so I probably am mistaken about the reason. What's is it? |
| 16:15.09 | Monet | Well, some have a point - Find an abandoned Nuka Cola factory? The value of the bottlecap just took a big hit. |
| 16:15.19 | AdmiralPanda | one bottlecap equals one bottle of water, basically |
| 16:15.26 | AdmiralPanda | plus authentic bottlecaps are hard to replicate |
| 16:15.54 | Charles_Murray | They're Nuka Cola bottle caps though |
| 16:16.09 | AdmiralPanda | I am aware of this |
| 16:16.52 | Monet | Yeah most people assume "Bottle caps are round and shiny, just like real coins I guess" |
| 16:16.57 | AdmiralPanda | Nuka Cola bottles being literally the second most common thing in the wasteland short of molerats |
| 16:17.42 | AdmiralPanda | again, it's the fact that they represent a unit of water, which is one of the most valuable things in the wasteland, and actual bottlecaps are hard to forfeit without an actual working nuka cola capmaker |
| 16:18.25 | AdmiralPanda | now that I think of it, you're right but for the wrong reason XD |
| 16:18.31 | Monet | And the wasteland is just too dangerous to easily set up any kind of assembly plant. |
| 16:18.45 | AdmiralPanda | basically yeah, all the reasons we use coins are reasons they use bottlecaps |
| 16:20.27 | *** join/#sporewiki Jepardi (591b4d42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.27.77.66) |
| 16:20.29 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 16:20.29 | Charles_Murray | Oh I see |
| 16:20.40 | Charles_Murray | It was backed by water by the NCR |
| 16:20.44 | Monet | I recall reading that the value of the NCR dollar is pegged to the value of bottlecaps. |
| 16:20.51 | AdmiralPanda | oh btw, I strongly suggest neither of you use Jet- if you do, you don't want to know what it's made from |
| 16:20.59 | Charles_Murray | I haven't yet |
| 16:21.02 | Charles_Murray | What is it? |
| 16:21.16 | AdmiralPanda | among other things, fermented bramin excrement |
| 16:21.30 | Monet | It's a drug. |
| 16:22.40 | AdmiralPanda | it's basically bramin dung and a couple other things tossed in a vat, then they concentrate the fumes |
| 16:23.10 | Monet | One ghoul back in the capital wasteland tried making a variation ghouls could use that, if I recall, used Sugar Bombs. |
| 16:23.11 | Charles_Murray | lol |
| 16:23.29 | AdmiralPanda | something like that yeah |
| 16:24.03 | Monet | Yeah Sugar Bombs are probably the epitome of how casual people were about bombs in Fallout. |
| 16:24.30 | Monet | Some company made Fat Man-shaped *cereal* |
| 16:24.49 | AdmiralPanda | oh, and there's a variant of Jet made by mixing jet with flamer fuel |
| 16:24.58 | Monet | Oh bloody hell |
| 16:25.57 | Monet | I have no idea what's in Sugar Bombs but my guess is that they make Twinkies seem downright healthy. |
| 16:25.58 | Charles_Murray | Well IRL people use petroleum to get high |
| 16:26.02 | Charles_Murray | So not surprising |
| 16:26.44 | AdmiralPanda | not really, no |
| 16:28.15 | AdmiralPanda | I do find it amusing that several drugs are in fact inventions of the US military |
| 16:28.23 | *** join/#sporewiki The_Randomness (~chatzilla@2601:441:1:5b80:2c6a:ecba:f25c:2ecf) |
| 16:28.23 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o The_Randomness] by ChanServ |
| 16:28.31 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 16:28.59 | AdmiralPanda | hi |
| 16:29.12 | Monet | Never taken a single Psycho injection, I doubt I want to. |
| 16:33.10 | AdmiralPanda | on the subject of Fallout drugs, Psycho |
| 16:33.13 | AdmiralPanda | Hydra* |
| 16:33.37 | AdmiralPanda | it's 2:30am and I'm running on the combined energy of half a bag of marshmallow (don't ask) |
| 16:33.51 | AdmiralPanda | but yeah, Hydra be really handy, it's a shame they didn't keep it |
| 16:37.04 | AdmiralPanda | especially interesting given that it's basically cave fungus and antivenom fermented for a bit, and suddenly it lets you regenerate limbs practically |
| 16:41.54 | *** join/#sporewiki Quark8 (49c685a7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.198.133.167) |
| 16:41.55 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 16:42.25 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 16:46.27 | Wormy_away | This looks like a Pokemon http://i.imgur.com/kjYxI4T.jpg |
| 16:59.23 | Wormy_away | http://imgur.com/gallery/zAE7E0T |
| 17:07.02 | Wormy_away | http://imgur.com/gallery/RPDIJPc |
| 17:10.33 | Ghelae | Wormy_away: So evidently that looks-like-a-Pokémon is a real creature: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowland_streaked_tenrec |
| 17:11.03 | *** join/#sporewiki Xho (b01b2759@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.27.39.89) |
| 17:11.08 | Xho | meow |
| 17:11.08 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 17:11.09 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 17:11.12 | Xho | Hi |
| 17:11.18 | OluapPlayer | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:11.19 | Xho | I went to see the new Star Trek film today |
| 17:11.21 | Xho | u |
| 17:11.25 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 17:12.17 | Xho | 7/10 not as good as the other two but still worth watching |
| 17:13.41 | Wormy_away | Yeah I probably should have posted what it is. |
| 17:16.07 | DrodoEmpire | Technobliterator would you want to do fiction? |
| 17:16.29 | Technobliterator | sure, sometime today |
| 17:16.32 | Technobliterator | I'll ping you when |
| 17:16.58 | Wormy_away | This creature is even more Pokemon http://i.imgur.com/rbsraDY.jpg |
| 17:17.17 | Wormy_away | Glaucus atlanticus |
| 17:17.45 | DrodoEmpire | kk |
| 17:18.47 | Ghelae | I reckon a lot of sea slugs must be. |
| 17:21.02 | AdmiralPanda | make that thing the size of a bus and you've got a JRPG bossfight right there |
| 17:21.28 | Wormy_away | It has a potent sting as its power. |
| 17:23.15 | Wormy_away | However I have a feeling that if you tried to battle the two creatures, the Tenrec would run away and the sea slug would dry out. |
| 17:23.44 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 17:23.55 | Ghelae | "If threatened by a predator (most commonly a fossa or Malagasy mongoose), a streaked tenrec erects the barbed quills on its back and on the crest around its head, pointing them completely forward, and drives them in to the attacker's nose or paws with body and head movements." |
| 17:25.10 | Ghelae | Presumably, rather than going for a nonexistent nose or paws, it would adapt to the anatomy of a giant nudibranch as required. |
| 17:25.46 | AdmiralPanda | I still remember my high school bio class laughing hysterically at the term "nudibranch" |
| 17:38.47 | *** join/#sporewiki PrimisBack (4618aabc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.24.170.188) |
| 17:38.48 | PrimisBack | Hi |
| 17:39.52 | PrimisBack | [[Dead Chat]] |
| 17:39.52 | morgothBotPy | PrimisBack meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Dead_Chat |
| 17:40.05 | PrimisBack | hmmmm... |
| 17:48.36 | PrimisBack | I just had the stupidest idea ever |
| 17:51.25 | Xho | OluapPlayer: https://41.media.tumblr.com/12ced7461eaf4322f95a758085ec31e6/tumblr_ndvpfeSxTC1shimk5o1_500.jpg AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 17:51.50 | OluapPlayer | NiiN - how the fuck did i end up here |
| 17:54.03 | Monet | Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc |
| 17:54.13 | PrimisBack | ITS SUNSET SHIMMER |
| 17:54.15 | Xho | Good response |
| 17:54.20 | PrimisBack | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAoh wait |
| 17:54.24 | PrimisBack | she's good now |
| 17:54.51 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/odLLg7G.jpg |
| 17:55.41 | PrimisBack | wtf |
| 17:55.50 | PrimisBack | violently implodes |
| 17:56.25 | Xho | There's been yet another attack in Germany |
| 17:57.31 | PrimisBack | by who// |
| 17:57.35 | PrimisBack | who?* |
| 17:58.28 | PrimisBack | also my freedom cheat is enabled BUT IT STILL WONT LET ME PLACE SOME PARTS |
| 17:58.31 | PrimisBack | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 17:58.36 | PrimisBack | explodes even more violently |
| 17:58.44 | Xho | Some guy |
| 17:58.45 | Xho | I dunno |
| 17:58.54 | Xho | One person's been killed and two more injured |
| 17:59.29 | PrimisBack | (cue UUUUUWWWWWWAAAAAEEEEEEEAAAUUUUWUWWWWWW etc) |
| 17:59.34 | PrimisBack | (police sirens) |
| 18:00.00 | DrodoEmpire | Can you not? |
| 18:00.12 | DrodoEmpire | Jesus you can be obnoxious. |
| 18:00.14 | Hachiman | Why do you think you keep getting told to go away |
| 18:00.32 | Monet | PrimisBack: You seem quite energetic. |
| 18:00.38 | PrimisBack | yes |
| 18:00.39 | PrimisBack | i am |
| 18:00.53 | PrimisBack | vaporizes everything within 48 meters |
| 18:01.12 | Xho | Take a chill pill |
| 18:01.12 | Technobliterator | PrimisBack, if you continue to be irritating to the channel deliberately, I will kick you |
| 18:01.13 | Xho | Or eight |
| 18:01.21 | PrimisBack | ah |
| 18:01.22 | PrimisBack | ok |
| 18:01.28 | Monet | Just calm down. |
| 18:01.30 | PrimisBack | takes 8 chill pills |
| 18:01.37 | PrimisBack | k |
| 18:01.43 | PrimisBack | guys? |
| 18:01.49 | PrimisBack | i had the stupidest idea |
| 18:01.53 | Hachiman | Not his first offence |
| 18:01.56 | PrimisBack | a fake dead chat |
| 18:02.02 | Hachiman | He's quite liable to be permabanned |
| 18:02.02 | Technobliterator | The next will be his last |
| 18:02.16 | PrimisBack | ok |
| 18:02.43 | PrimisBack | can i explain it to you? |
| 18:03.17 | Hachiman | No |
| 18:03.25 | Hachiman | Your idea explains itself |
| 18:03.30 | Hachiman | And it is indeed, very stupid |
| 18:03.46 | PrimisBack | ik |
| 18:04.02 | Monet | Things are quiet, they often tend to be. |
| 18:04.08 | PrimisBack | fake dead chats for PrimisBack's worst idea 20166 |
| 18:04.10 | PrimisBack | 2016* |
| 18:05.01 | Monet | Acting random rarely works to invigorate a channel and more than likely they just irritate the people attending. |
| 18:05.13 | PrimisBack | ok |
| 18:07.19 | PrimisBack | i am so mad bc i can't get the icky-osaur parts rotated correctly |
| 18:08.31 | Monet | Venting on a channel like this just annoys everyone. Breathing exercises will help. |
| 18:08.49 | Hachiman | Yes, breathing exercises; preferably, holding your breath until you die |
| 18:08.56 | PrimisBack | wow |
| 18:09.07 | PrimisBack | thanks for the idea Hachiman |
| 18:09.31 | Monet | Last night I spent 20 minutes trying to thread a sewing needle. It pissed me off. I *could* have come on the main channel and expressed my frustration. But I didn't. |
| 18:10.05 | PrimisBack | oh |
| 18:10.08 | Xho | Did you know that Wolfenstein: The New Order can't be playedi n Germany |
| 18:10.15 | PrimisBack | i was just sharing my feelings |
| 18:10.16 | Xho | Makes a lot of sense |
| 18:10.46 | PrimisBack | odd, considering I think that means "wolf stone" in german |
| 18:10.58 | DrodoEmpire | Xho: Because a video game might turn people in to literal nazis <.< |
| 18:11.15 | PrimisBack | but hachi, please don't tell me to kill myself |
| 18:11.18 | Monet | PrimIsBack: Well the game has Nazis taking over the world. |
| 18:11.21 | Xho | Stone of the Wolf but close enough |
| 18:11.34 | PrimisBack | that explains it @monet |
| 18:11.53 | PrimisBack | germany today =/= germany then |
| 18:11.55 | Xho | DrodoEmpire: Well playing a game about Nazis in a country where the Nazis came from makes sense |
| 18:12.04 | Xho | The Germans are pretty touchy on the subject and rightly so |
| 18:12.06 | DrodoEmpire | No, it doesn't |
| 18:12.07 | Monet | Berlin within The New Order is based on a very real architectural plan for the city by the Nazis. |
| 18:12.09 | DrodoEmpire | And they shouldn't be |
| 18:12.30 | Technobliterator | I have to agree |
| 18:12.40 | Technobliterator | it's better to just acknowledge their history and move past it |
| 18:12.45 | DrodoEmpire | Germans have this bizarre feeling of collective guilt over the nazis, even though the vast majority of them haven't lived during those years nor share those ethics |
| 18:13.12 | Monet | To be fair TNO is a game that shows more about the Nazis than racism, concentration camps and gassing Jews. |
| 18:13.18 | Technobliterator | To be fair, there are people from that era still alive who may now regret it |
| 18:13.21 | DrodoEmpire | By trying to ignore their history or whip themselves for it they're hurting themselves and making their history *all about* that bad bump |
| 18:13.33 | Monet | TNO is a game that explores practically every aspect of Nazi ideology. |
| 18:13.40 | DrodoEmpire | Despite the fact that the germans have much to be proud for and thousands of years of heritage |
| 18:13.47 | DrodoEmpire | Right, sure |
| 18:13.48 | DrodoEmpire | So? |
| 18:14.03 | PrimisBack | can i post a long link? or should i shorten it? |
| 18:14.31 | Technobliterator | Some of the ones still alive may feel guilty still, even if it's not the majority of them anymore |
| 18:14.40 | Xho | DrodoEmpire: As much as Germany has to be admired for I wouldn't want to be reminded of being geographically situated during the darkest days in living memory |
| 18:14.55 | Technobliterator | But in general, I do think it's better to acknowledge and move past history |
| 18:15.08 | Xho | But yeah it's better to move on |
| 18:15.08 | DrodoEmpire | Xho: Huh? |
| 18:15.14 | PrimisBack | ill shorten it |
| 18:15.16 | PrimisBack | http://tinyurl.com/gvl8fdb |
| 18:15.33 | Monet | Germany is just that ashamed of itself. It wants to act like Hitler never happened because he was such a national embarrassment. |
| 18:15.54 | DrodoEmpire | Well, yeah, it is better to move on and be proud of their country :p By whipping themselves and sharing a guilt its just making that part of history more and more significant |
| 18:15.56 | Technobliterator | I mean, I also wish Turkey would acknowledge the Armenian genocide for the same reason |
| 18:16.09 | Xho | Okay this is descending into politics |
| 18:16.11 | Xho | reel it back pls |
| 18:16.16 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah but I wouldn't want every Turk to feel guilty for it |
| 18:16.20 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah sure |
| 18:16.20 | Technobliterator | Indeed |
| 18:16.21 | Monet | Its like the guy who doesn't want to be reminded he insulted and brutally killed a prostitute when he was drunk. |
| 18:16.29 | OluapPlayer | Speaking of which |
| 18:16.36 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: Was it you who set up the rp channels? |
| 18:16.40 | Technobliterator | It was |
| 18:16.42 | Technobliterator | a long time ago |
| 18:16.49 | Technobliterator | back before Titanpad was a thing |
| 18:16.52 | PrimisBack | gtg |
| 18:16.55 | PrimisBack | cya soon |
| 18:16.57 | OluapPlayer | Maybe you could set up some sort of #sporewiki-offtopic |
| 18:16.59 | PrimisBack | o/ |
| 18:17.04 | OluapPlayer | And put a link in the header |
| 18:17.05 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 18:17.12 | Technobliterator | I suggested doing that the other day |
| 18:17.13 | PrimisBack | join it |
| 18:17.15 | Technobliterator | I would be happy to do it |
| 18:17.36 | OluapPlayer | I don't recall |
| 18:17.45 | OluapPlayer | And goddamn am I glad he's gone |
| 18:17.51 | Technobliterator | Yep |
| 18:18.00 | OluapPlayer | He's been kicked for being annoying thrice already |
| 18:18.02 | Technobliterator | I was || <- this close to banning him without warning him |
| 18:18.03 | OluapPlayer | and he NEVER learns |
| 18:18.48 | Monet | Maybe it's worth understanding why he might be acting like this. |
| 18:19.25 | OluapPlayer | Being told to stop repeatedly and ->getting kicked thrice already over the last several months<- |
| 18:19.31 | Monet | It might be ADHD for all we know. |
| 18:19.46 | OluapPlayer | This behavior isn't excusable |
| 18:20.07 | Technobliterator | yeah, there's a difference between an explanation and an excuse |
| 18:20.18 | The_Randomness | I agree |
| 18:20.25 | Monet | Well telling him he should kill himself doesn't help the issue. |
| 18:20.38 | Technobliterator | That was a joke |
| 18:20.44 | Monet | To us sure |
| 18:20.46 | Technobliterator | In poor taste, perhaps |
| 18:20.48 | Xho | good joke gg |
| 18:20.48 | OluapPlayer | It's like you're ignoring what i'm saying |
| 18:21.09 | Xho | "PERMABAN PLS" - OluapPlayer, 2016 |
| 18:21.09 | Technobliterator | I made it clear that he wouldn't be coming back if he kept it up |
| 18:21.14 | Xho | Or maybe Hachi as well |
| 18:21.19 | Xho | Ah screw it half of the IRC |
| 18:21.27 | Charles_Bot | As long as we hold that as a standard for everyone, not just outsiders to the wiki, then I agree |
| 18:21.46 | Technobliterator | He's not really an outsider, unfortunately |
| 18:21.56 | Technobliterator | Primius has been around since the Irsk days |
| 18:21.56 | OluapPlayer | He's been here for at least 2 years |
| 18:21.58 | DrodoEmpire | Charles_Bot: I think that's being maintained though |
| 18:22.02 | DrodoEmpire | And yeah |
| 18:22.13 | Monet | I'm not ignoring, I'm just keeping open to the possibility he might have a psychological condition. |
| 18:22.30 | Technobliterator | I'm sure he probably does |
| 18:22.31 | Charles_Bot | Right, but he doesn't have any major ties to any of us, that's what I meant |
| 18:22.38 | Technobliterator | but it doesn't make a difference if he does or not |
| 18:22.42 | Technobliterator | what matters is his behaviour |
| 18:22.58 | Monet | What it does mean is we could devise a smarter approach to dealing with him. |
| 18:23.06 | Technobliterator | so guys: sporewiki-offtopic channel, y or n? |
| 18:23.11 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
| 18:23.39 | Xho | y |
| 18:23.44 | OluapPlayer | And no, after years of repeatedly commiting the same mistakes, I am inclined to believe he's troling |
| 18:23.50 | OluapPlayer | trolling even |
| 18:24.23 | DrodoEmpire | yeah... |
| 18:24.28 | DrodoEmpire | Tech: Yeah sure |
| 18:24.57 | Monet | I'll stop then. |
| 18:25.58 | Charles_Bot | Yeah, I'm not sure this is exactly fair to Primius, but I'm also in the minority so I won't press the issue. |
| 18:31.16 | *** topic/#sporewiki by Technobliterator -> SporeWiki! http://spore.wikia.com || Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23sporewiki/ || Collaborative Universes: Sci-Fi http://tinyurl.com/3ddvp7q Fantasy http://tinyurl.com/p9qau7l || Titanpad: https://titanpad.com/ || Offtopic chat: #sporewiki-offtopic |
| 18:31.34 | Technobliterator | ~swofftopic is #sporewiki-offtopic |
| 18:31.34 | infobot | Technobliterator: okay |
| 18:31.40 | Technobliterator | ~swofftopic |
| 18:31.40 | infobot | somebody said swofftopic was #sporewiki-offtopic |
| 18:31.42 | Technobliterator | \o/ |
| 18:31.54 | DrodoEmpire | yuy |
| 18:32.10 | OluapPlayer | gud |
| 18:32.59 | Technobliterator | so, I won't make it a rule that people have to go there under instead of discuss things here, but we can just prompt people to do that if others feel uncomfortable discussing a topic |
| 18:33.10 | Technobliterator | unless people want it to be a rule |
| 18:33.22 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh |
| 18:33.30 | DrodoEmpire | More of a prompt, to start with |
| 18:33.57 | OluapPlayer | We can make it a rule if people start ignoring the prompt |
| 18:34.08 | Charles_Bot | I agree with Tech, we should be very careful in what we judge to be on-topic or off, as to not squelch conversations and make people feel like they can't relax and speak their minds on this channel for fear of being shut down |
| 18:34.33 | Technobliterator | Yeah, that's what I mean |
| 18:34.50 | Charles_Bot | If anything, it would fragment Sporewiki back into small channels rather than encourage meaningful discussion on the channel |
| 18:35.22 | Technobliterator | We can have discussion on here, but if some people arne't happy, those people can request it be moved to the offtopic one |
| 18:35.55 | OluapPlayer | You have meaningful discussion here, on subjects related to the wiki |
| 18:35.58 | Charles_Bot | But having somewhere to go if a conversation becomes disruptive or triggers is a good thing. |
| 18:36.46 | Charles_Bot | Right, but what I'm saying is that "subjects related to the wiki" means different things to different people |
| 18:36.52 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah that's what'd be used for Charles |
| 18:36.58 | DrodoEmpire | Just a pressure valve |
| 18:37.16 | OluapPlayer | It can't be more self-explanatory than that |
| 18:37.21 | Charles_Bot | And what I'm saying is that we shouldn't impose one narrow view on the whole channel |
| 18:38.35 | Xho | Right |
| 18:38.45 | Monet | I agree with using care. Sending someone to the offtopic channel for a topic that some people don't care about (not hate, fear or are unnerved by - those have grounds). |
| 18:39.06 | Monet | Might be where issues and feelings of fragmentation might occur. |
| 18:39.18 | Xho | Off topic discussion should be allowed but have a limit on it because, well it's off topic |
| 18:39.28 | Xho | I think if it stems into an extensive conversation then go to the other channel |
| 18:39.31 | *** join/#sporewiki Tek0516 (uid149600@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-evltdnrdhwajwyiw) |
| 18:39.37 | OluapPlayer | Yes, I don't see what's so difficult to grasp about it |
| 18:41.36 | Hachiman | Needs someone to send Primius to the Shadow Realm pls |
| 18:41.47 | Technobliterator | also, #sporewiki-rp1 and #sporewiki-rp2 are now dropped |
| 18:41.51 | Technobliterator | they no longer exist |
| 18:41.53 | Technobliterator | because they are no longer needed |
| 18:48.06 | Charles_Bot | OluapPlayer: Not difficult to grasp; what I meant to bring up was that "limit off-topic conversations which will alienate" is a principle, and one that I think makes perfect sense, to apply to this channel. It's not self-explanatory as a directly applicable rule, though, because the wiki covers such a broad range of interests, topics, and styles that |
| 18:48.06 | Charles_Bot | "on-topic" could really be stretched, depending on your definition, to include anything, or narrowed to cover nothing. I was urging caution because applying that principle will require interpreting it on the fly, and using common sense here, rather than empathy, is dangerous. |
| 18:48.23 | Charles_Bot | I hope that helps? |
| 18:57.19 | Charles_Bot | Rephrase because I messed up in reordering my sentences: "Limit off topic conversations which will alienate others on the channel" is a good principle to apply to the channel. However, we should not mistake it for a self-explanatory rule which can be applied literally without any problems. Because the wiki covers such a broad range of interests from many |
| 18:57.19 | Charles_Bot | writers and expressed through different styles, the definition of "off-topic" is actually not very obvious. It can be stretched to include anything and everything, from astrophysics to mass politics, or narrowed to cover basically nothing. In the former case, I agree that we've ended up with highly specific and inaccessible conversations which are best moved |
| 18:57.19 | Charles_Bot | elsewhere. I would be really sad, though, if we went from one extreme to another, and adopted a very narrow interpretation of what the wiki is about. We can't go from one form of alienation to another. |
| 18:57.26 | Charles_Bot | That is why I stress empathy |
| 18:57.40 | Charles_Bot | And caution against rushing to conclusions based on common sense. |
| 18:58.24 | Charles_Bot | There. Technobliterator Wormy_ Monet DrodoEmpire Xho OluapPlayer ? |
| 18:58.48 | Technobliterator | I mean |
| 18:58.56 | Technobliterator | it should be fairly obvious how it works |
| 18:59.03 | OluapPlayer | I've nothing to say. I was clear on my stance already |
| 18:59.04 | Technobliterator | if a discussion is fine, leave it as it is |
| 18:59.21 | Technobliterator | if a discussion happens to disrupt the channel or upset certain people, tell them to move to -offtopic |
| 18:59.31 | Technobliterator | not tell |
| 18:59.32 | Technobliterator | ask them to |
| 18:59.39 | Xho | I think we're overcomplicating the issue but okay |
| 18:59.43 | DrodoEmpire | Charles, we get its a bit ambiguous |
| 18:59.50 | DrodoEmpire | But you're waaaaaay overthinking it |
| 19:00.02 | DrodoEmpire | Just my opinion :p |
| 19:00.24 | The_Randomness | ^ |
| 19:01.25 | Charles_Bot | The fact is that is doesn't seem like we disagree |
| 19:01.27 | Monet | As I said, I'm concerned the "offtopic" call could apply to topics some people don't care about, but not necessarily hate or fear. |
| 19:01.35 | Charles_Bot | I don't disagree with that principle |
| 19:01.59 | Hachiman | Yeah I think you're overthinking the issue |
| 19:02.12 | Technobliterator | It won't, Monet. No one will end up asking for harmless discussion to move to -offtopic |
| 19:02.19 | Wormy_ | I believe you are overthinking it Charles, but clearly your heart is in the right place. Keep in mind that none of us want to be too harsh with this principle, because that might involve effecting one's own freedom to bring discussions to the main channel. |
| 19:02.22 | *** join/#sporewiki ImpyDroid (~Anders@host-104-159-66-217.spbmts.ru) |
| 19:02.26 | Technobliterator | ^ |
| 19:02.35 | ImpyDroid | >^ |
| 19:02.36 | Charles_Bot | Well, maybe it might help if we explained exactly what we mean by off-topic |
| 19:02.40 | ImpyDroid | Are we arguing again? |
| 19:02.45 | Technobliterator | uh |
| 19:02.46 | Xho | To close the argument I think we're basically smart enough to know overstepping our boundaries warrants change |
| 19:02.47 | Technobliterator | No? |
| 19:02.51 | Hachiman | Charles is overthinking stuff |
| 19:03.03 | ImpyDroid | Oh God baguette x bunny again |
| 19:03.09 | ImpyDroid | Why don't you kiss you |
| 19:03.12 | Monet | Ehh, this is why legalese is so mind-numingly pedantic. |
| 19:03.12 | Wormy_ | I don't disagree with anything Charles has said |
| 19:03.17 | Technobliterator | Nor do I |
| 19:03.17 | Wormy_ | nuff said |
| 19:03.18 | OluapPlayer | Hachi isn't even involved in this discussion |
| 19:03.22 | ImpyDroid | oh |
| 19:03.24 | OluapPlayer | Mister jump-into-conclusions |
| 19:03.25 | ImpyDroid | Alrighty |
| 19:03.47 | Technobliterator | the context is |
| 19:03.47 | ImpyDroid | But I *was* right |
| 19:03.53 | ImpyDroid | You *were* arguing |
| 19:03.56 | Hachiman | Except you weren't |
| 19:03.57 | Charles_Bot | No? |
| 19:04.06 | ImpyDroid | Right so what is even going on |
| 19:04.08 | Charles_Bot | We're having a perfectly civil discussion |
| 19:04.09 | Technobliterator | We set up an overflow channel called #sporewiki-offtopic |
| 19:04.15 | Charles_Bot | I know that there are many here who think that politics is off topic. I believe that it is firmly on topic. |
| 19:04.15 | ImpyDroid | Oh alright |
| 19:04.24 | Wormy_ | This is disrupting the existing discussion, Impy. And its iritating me a little bit. |
| 19:04.24 | Technobliterator | which is basically for discussions that some people may not like |
| 19:04.29 | The_Randomness | yeah |
| 19:04.35 | The_Randomness | I agree with wormy |
| 19:04.36 | ImpyDroid | Well it is not off topic but it may warrant its own page |
| 19:04.40 | ImpyDroid | channel even |
| 19:05.03 | ImpyDroid | Alright sorry guys |
| 19:05.04 | OluapPlayer | Politics isn't SporeWiki-related, it's offtopic as far as I'm concerned |
| 19:05.09 | Charles_Bot | There are some who believe that discussing superheroes and superpowers are on topic. I tend to go with that it's off-topic and has nothing to do with what I conceive of as the fictionverse |
| 19:05.09 | ImpyDroid | My opinion is |
| 19:05.18 | Technobliterator | Politics of the fictionverse or the game is not offtopic. Politics of "Trump said mean things today" is. |
| 19:05.25 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 19:05.26 | OluapPlayer | What Jo said |
| 19:05.32 | ImpyDroid | Politics is not any more off-topic than any other non-Spore topics |
| 19:05.34 | ImpyDroid | However |
| 19:05.42 | OluapPlayer | Spore is a videogame |
| 19:05.48 | Technobliterator | If no one has an issue with discussing the mean things Trump said today, nothing will happen |
| 19:05.51 | ImpyDroid | It takes a lot of the channel so it may have its own channel |
| 19:05.54 | OluapPlayer | I treat this IRC as a place to discuss fiction and videogames |
| 19:05.58 | ImpyDroid | But call it something else |
| 19:06.06 | Technobliterator | If someone says "I'm really tired of us circlejerking about Trump", then we ask if people can move to the -offtopic channel |
| 19:06.07 | ImpyDroid | what if we discuss comics though |
| 19:06.09 | ImpyDroid | Or music |
| 19:06.10 | Technobliterator | I think this is reasonable? |
| 19:06.14 | ImpyDroid | Would it be off topic |
| 19:06.16 | DrodoEmpire | I think it is |
| 19:06.23 | OluapPlayer | It would, but are there people bothered by it? |
| 19:06.28 | OluapPlayer | If yes, offtopic channel you go |
| 19:06.30 | DrodoEmpire | The discussion should move on request |
| 19:06.32 | ImpyDroid | That is my point |
| 19:06.33 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 19:06.36 | DrodoEmpire | Its no biggie |
| 19:06.44 | Technobliterator | Yeah, discussing games people like is harmless and will end up staying |
| 19:06.44 | ImpyDroid | It shouldn't be called off topic but otherwise excellent idea |
| 19:07.00 | Technobliterator | discussing, I dunno, SJWs or gamergate arguments in gaming, will move to -offtopic as well |
| 19:07.06 | ImpyDroid | Basically "offtopic" will be for any topics that offend any people |
| 19:07.13 | ImpyDroid | Like for example OP does not like GoT |
| 19:07.16 | Technobliterator | gets way more bored of those topics |
| 19:07.19 | ImpyDroid | So when we discuss GoT |
| 19:07.28 | ImpyDroid | OP may ask us to get a metaphorical room |
| 19:07.32 | Hachiman | This topic is boring me |
| 19:07.35 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 19:07.36 | Technobliterator | Pfft |
| 19:07.37 | Hachiman | go to off-topic channel pls |
| 19:07.44 | ImpyDroid | Essentially |
| 19:07.47 | OluapPlayer | How about you get to the Titanpad already |
| 19:07.53 | ImpyDroid | Me |
| 19:07.53 | DrodoEmpire | So rename it to something like "sporewiki-alt" if that's necessary |
| 19:07.54 | ImpyDroid | ? |
| 19:07.57 | OluapPlayer | Hachi |
| 19:07.58 | Hachiman | I'm thinking on stuff before I do Titanpad stuff |
| 19:08.01 | ImpyDroid | Alr-Sporewiki |
| 19:08.04 | ImpyDroid | *Alt |
| 19:08.07 | Charles_Bot | Alright. Now that we've established that that's how that principle is going to be applied and all agreed on it, great. I think this can work. |
| 19:08.08 | Technobliterator | I think the topic works fine |
| 19:08.12 | Technobliterator | \o./ |
| 19:08.15 | DrodoEmpire | yuy |
| 19:08.15 | ImpyDroid | That sounds like our very own army of Sargonbots |
| 19:08.16 | Technobliterator | *\o/ |
| 19:08.39 | ImpyDroid | #sporewiki-alt is best idea yeah |
| 19:08.53 | Charles_Bot | I'm with Impy on that one |
| 19:08.58 | Charles_Bot | Also Impy |
| 19:09.08 | Charles_Bot | Respond to my fiction messages pls |
| 19:09.20 | Charles_Bot | We need to have a cheese-rat rivalry |
| 19:09.36 | ImpyDroid | Yiy |
| 19:09.40 | ImpyDroid | link plz |
| 19:09.49 | Wormy_ | This isn't quite relevant but it sits with my views, as "offence" was brought up https://xkcd.com/1357/ |
| 19:09.54 | Charles_Bot | I've just been poking you lol |
| 19:10.03 | ImpyDroid | So right |
| 19:10.18 | ImpyDroid | Spore and videogames are strictly limited to this channel |
| 19:10.32 | ImpyDroid | The rest can be discussed unless someone objects |
| 19:10.39 | ImpyDroid | In which case we make to alt spore |
| 19:10.43 | ImpyDroid | Makes sense? |
| 19:10.55 | Technobliterator | No, not strictly limited |
| 19:10.55 | Hachiman | No, the name is fine |
| 19:10.56 | Technobliterator | like |
| 19:11.01 | OluapPlayer | Anything can be discussed as long as it doesn't bother people |
| 19:11.07 | Technobliterator | we just explained it to you ._. |
| 19:11.07 | Technobliterator | Yes |
| 19:11.20 | Charles_Bot | I think we finished the discussion o.o |
| 19:11.25 | Hachiman | You don't need to hugbox an IRC channel name Imp |
| 19:11.46 | Technobliterator | also it's kinda annoying to make a channel so I can't be bothered to make one at the new name |
| 19:11.46 | Wormy_ | I don't think its about what we're limited to discussing. We can all discuss anything here unless users feel it takes over, gets boring or upsetting. Its not any different to how it was before, as before we would ask people to bring arguments to another chat |
| 19:11.47 | Technobliterator | :V |
| 19:11.51 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Hugbox? |
| 19:12.12 | ImpyDroid | I do koto quite follow |
| 19:12.16 | ImpyDroid | *not |
| 19:12.16 | Hachiman | "oh calling it off-topic could offend people, let's call it something else" |
| 19:12.33 | Technobliterator | Did he say that? |
| 19:12.34 | ImpyDroid | wow seriously |
| 19:12.39 | Technobliterator | Can you two like |
| 19:12.40 | Technobliterator | please not argue |
| 19:12.43 | ImpyDroid | I just said the name "alt" would be more appropriate |
| 19:12.46 | ImpyDroid | He won't |
| 19:12.49 | Hachiman | Oh wait, sorry, I misread |
| 19:13.00 | Technobliterator | Imp, you're overreacting : | |
| 19:13.13 | Hachiman | "[20:07] <ImpyDroid> Basically "offtopic" will be for any topics that offend any people" I misread this as something else |
| 19:13.22 | Technobliterator | right |
| 19:13.38 | ImpyDroid | Alrightyk |
| 19:14.10 | ImpyDroid | Also what is wrong with hug boxes |
| 19:14.14 | ImpyDroid | I would love to have one |
| 19:14.18 | ImpyDroid | Must be very comfy |
| 19:14.24 | Hachiman | Because hug boxes are dumb SJW stuff? |
| 19:14.28 | Charles_Bot | ImpyDroid *poke* |
| 19:14.32 | Xho | hug box |
| 19:14.33 | Xho | dafuq is dis |
| 19:14.45 | DrodoEmpire | I think hugboxes are an actual device made a long time ago |
| 19:14.57 | ImpyDroid | Not a long time ago |
| 19:15.03 | OluapPlayer | Hugbox = everyone forces themselves to be nice for the sake of having a conflict-free environment |
| 19:15.05 | ImpyDroid | Like 30 years old or so |
| 19:15.08 | ImpyDroid | Like you know |
| 19:15.16 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 19:15.21 | ImpyDroid | A literal ring of pillow to immerse oneself in |
| 19:15.26 | ImpyDroid | For inner calmness and peace |
| 19:15.29 | Xho | Hugbox = fuckbois |
| 19:15.34 | ImpyDroid | Also |
| 19:15.34 | Xho | Yeah I said it |
| 19:15.36 | ImpyDroid | >SJW |
| 19:15.41 | DrodoEmpire | Though the alt's more that we can argue there for the sake of keeping the main reasonably civil |
| 19:15.43 | ImpyDroid | meaningless word |
| 19:16.10 | DrodoEmpire | I think "hugbox" in an internet context is more a pejorative to mean basically an echo chamber |
| 19:16.23 | Technobliterator | I agree that SJW is a meaningless word nowadays |
| 19:16.25 | ImpyDroid | But even then |
| 19:16.27 | OluapPlayer | Yeah |
| 19:16.29 | ImpyDroid | It is not SJW only |
| 19:16.35 | Monet | Its lost it's teeth. |
| 19:16.38 | DrodoEmpire | Its a colloquialism |
| 19:16.41 | ImpyDroid | Many Neo-Nazi websites |
| 19:16.41 | Hachiman | How about whiteknight, feminist, Tumblrfag |
| 19:16.50 | Technobliterator | those are silly insults |
| 19:16.53 | ImpyDroid | Are essentially hugbox especially |
| 19:16.53 | Technobliterator | But at least meaningful |
| 19:16.54 | OluapPlayer | I hear that word often since 4chan likes to call reddit a hugbox all the time |
| 19:16.55 | Xho | I'm tempted to make some kind of creature in the Fantasyverse based on Durin's Bane |
| 19:16.58 | ImpyDroid | *hugboxes |
| 19:17.04 | DrodoEmpire | Xho: Hm? |
| 19:17.08 | OluapPlayer | So I guess I shouldn't be surprised you people don't know the word |
| 19:17.10 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: But say /pol/ is also a hugbox |
| 19:17.12 | Technobliterator | that and "safe space" |
| 19:17.27 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Also meaningless |
| 19:17.28 | Xho | Well Caligaduro was originally a monster like Durin's Bane and then he got evolved into the God of Destruction |
| 19:17.30 | DrodoEmpire | I personally prefer the term echochamber |
| 19:17.31 | Hachiman | Xho: But Xacutus is already a thing |
| 19:17.39 | OluapPlayer | 4chan is not a hugbox as the community treats itself with hostility |
| 19:17.49 | ImpyDroid | You would dare call a woman that fights not to have acid thrown in her face for infidelity an SJW? |
| 19:17.52 | Xho | An actual demon not an undead pyromancer silly |
| 19:17.53 | ImpyDroid | She is a feminist |
| 19:18.05 | ImpyDroid | Would you call her an SJW |
| 19:18.11 | OluapPlayer | Also don't know what Durin's Bane is |
| 19:18.12 | Hachiman | Oh God what have I done |
| 19:18.24 | DrodoEmpire | Nobody would, nor is she necessarily a feminist unless she identifies as one |
| 19:18.24 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 19:18.33 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: You remember the big fire monster with the whip in LotR? |
| 19:18.35 | Xho | OluapPlayer: https://youtu.be/ehrwV2KQ8Lg?t=2m16s |
| 19:18.36 | ImpyDroid | DrodoEmpire: She identifies as one I am sure |
| 19:18.41 | OluapPlayer | Balrog? |
| 19:18.43 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 19:18.44 | ImpyDroid | I am talking about feminists in say Pakistan |
| 19:18.51 | Hachiman | Balrog is actually a group of entities |
| 19:18.52 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway |
| 19:18.57 | Hachiman | Durin's Bane is one of them |
| 19:19.01 | DrodoEmpire | We should take this to alt if we are to continue it |
| 19:19.05 | DrodoEmpire | *care to |
| 19:19.13 | ImpyDroid | there we go testing the system |
| 19:19.23 | OluapPlayer | So, Balrog is a species and he's just one of them |
| 19:19.23 | DrodoEmpire | Its a good thing |
| 19:19.33 | Xho | There's seven I believe |
| 19:19.58 | Hachiman | Not a species per se, but |
| 19:20.06 | ImpyDroid | I would say a faction |
| 19:20.20 | ImpyDroid | Basically they belong to the same species as Gandalf and Saruman |
| 19:20.24 | OluapPlayer | Still Xacutus doesn't fit the Balrog or whatever its name might be |
| 19:20.24 | Hachiman | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/lotr/images/b/bc/The_balrogs_of_morgoth_by_thylacinee-d5pl60x.png/revision/latest?cb=20130224231731 |
| 19:20.24 | Xho | Maiar |
| 19:20.25 | ImpyDroid | And Sauron |
| 19:20.29 | ImpyDroid | Some sort of demigods |
| 19:20.32 | Xho | maiar dammit |
| 19:20.52 | ImpyDroid | Balrogs are Maiar that fight with whips and look all big and impressive |
| 19:20.59 | Xho | Although the specific name of the Balrogs is actually Valarukar |
| 19:21.21 | Xho | Valaraukar even |
| 19:21.27 | ImpyDroid | Gandalf and Saruman just kind of look differently but belong to the same race |
| 19:21.41 | ImpyDroid | Their power is expressed through magic rather than through physical might |
| 19:21.55 | Monet | Angels and demons to an extent. |
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| 19:22.02 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o OluapPlayer_] by ChanServ |
| 19:22.04 | OluapPlayer_ | Fucking internet |
| 19:22.12 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/lotr/images/b/bc/The_balrogs_of_morgoth_by_thylacinee-d5pl60x.png/revision/latest?cb=20130224231731 |
| 19:22.17 | OluapPlayer_ | I didn't know Gandalf and Samuran weren't human |
| 19:22.26 | OluapPlayer_ | Then again I don't really care for Tolkien lore |
| 19:22.38 | Monet | That's how Gandalf the Grey became Gandalf the White |
| 19:22.38 | Xho | dems fightin words |
| 19:22.58 | Monet | He was promoted by the Valar for killing that Balrog. |
| 19:22.59 | OluapPlayer_ | Warcraft introduced me to fantasy, not Tolkien |
| 19:23.03 | Hachiman | They're essentially angels |
| 19:23.04 | Hachiman | I was not aware of it really either until much later |
| 19:23.25 | Xho | Sauron's also one of the Maiar but he's many levels above Gandalf and Saruman |
| 19:24.01 | Xho | And then there's Morgoth who's essentially the Devil of Tolkien lore |
| 19:24.05 | OluapPlayer_ | I always thought Saruman had a funny name |
| 19:24.14 | Xho | It's not his actual name either |
| 19:24.18 | OluapPlayer_ | I expected him to act like a samurai at any moment |
| 19:24.20 | ImpyDroid | It actually comes from Old English |
| 19:24.23 | OluapPlayer_ | in the movies that is |
| 19:24.28 | Monet | Modern fantasy owes something of a life-debt to Tolkien. |
| 19:24.44 | OluapPlayer_ | I know, but Tolkien didn't introduce me to fantasy fiction |
| 19:24.50 | Xho | Saruman's actual name is Curumo which is even weirder in my opinion |
| 19:24.53 | ImpyDroid | "Searu" meant "cunning", "trickery", or "engineering" in Old English |
| 19:25.10 | ImpyDroid | Ergo "Cunning man" |
| 19:25.11 | Hachiman | I just get reminded of "saru", which is Japanese for monkey |
| 19:25.14 | Monet | OluapPLayer_: Fair enough. But its always good to know a little of the mythos. |
| 19:25.15 | ImpyDroid | Or "Engineering man" |
| 19:25.23 | ImpyDroid | Or "Wise man" |
| 19:25.27 | Hachiman | So, monkey man |
| 19:25.28 | Xho | Hachiman: "saruman" "monkey ten thousand" |
| 19:25.39 | OluapPlayer_ | ook |
| 19:25.44 | Hachiman | Monkey 10,000 sounds like a fucking video game boss |
| 19:25.55 | OluapPlayer_ | BANANA SLAMMA |
| 19:26.06 | Xho | But yeah it does explain why Saruman and Gandalf are over 2,000 years old by the time of the Hobbit books |
| 19:26.31 | Xho | They're actually ageless but I mean they've been on Middle-Earth for ~2,000 years by then |
| 19:26.31 | OluapPlayer_ | Gandalf and his archenemy, Expand Dong |
| 19:26.35 | Hachiman | olol |
| 19:26.41 | Hachiman | Also GG to Gandalf for being a fucking demigod and letting a hobbit carry the One Ring |
| 19:27.07 | ImpyDroid | I think it makes sense |
| 19:27.10 | Hachiman | I never understood why or how Gandalf could not handle carrying the One Ring but the hobbits could |
| 19:27.34 | ImpyDroid | He could not because if it corrupted him he would become more dangerous |
| 19:27.38 | Xho | Because if Sauron corrupted Gandalf it would be magically world destroying |
| 19:27.39 | ImpyDroid | I guess |
| 19:28.01 | ImpyDroid | I mean at worst Frodo would turn into a second Gollum |
| 19:28.14 | Xho | Or thereabouts, Gandalf is essentially a god in comparison to the rest of the races of Middle-Earth |
| 19:28.14 | ImpyDroid | Gandalf would turn into a second Sauron |
| 19:28.16 | Xho | c |
| 19:28.30 | Hachiman | But, the One Ring just makes you invisible |
| 19:28.39 | Xho | the One Ring has Sauron's conscience in it |
| 19:28.54 | ImpyDroid | Then the Middle Earth would fall under the magical yaoi duo of Sauron and Gandalf |
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| 19:28.59 | Primisback | eyy |
| 19:29.19 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: I think it is just invisibility is the only power a normal man can access |
| 19:29.20 | Xho | It was made so that those who wore the other Rings of Power would be corrupted and become servient to Sauron as he wore the One Ring |
| 19:29.24 | ImpyDroid | I guess Gandalf could use it more |
| 19:29.57 | Primisback | gets the one ring |
| 19:30.13 | Xho | I mean Galadriel with the One Ring would probably be as bad if not worse if Gandalf had it |
| 19:30.22 | Primisback | "don't obey my orders" |
| 19:30.36 | Primisback | ey i made a paradox |
| 19:30.57 | Primisback | [not trying to be random] |
| 19:31.05 | Xho | Sauron is basically the ultimate sneaky bastard |
| 19:31.46 | ImpyDroid | I think it is mentioned that one could in theory use the ring to defeat Sauron |
| 19:31.59 | ImpyDroid | I cannot quite understand how though |
| 19:32.00 | Monet | Sauron needs a body. |
| 19:32.11 | ImpyDroid | I suppose it would be like |
| 19:32.14 | Monet | Imagine what he could do if he posessed the body of Gandalf. |
| 19:32.26 | ImpyDroid | Subverting Sauron's consciousness and absorbing it |
| 19:32.28 | ImpyDroid | Dunno |
| 19:32.43 | Xho | That was Boromir who mentioned it |
| 19:32.44 | Xho | And he died |
| 19:32.47 | Xho | He died badly |
| 19:32.52 | Xho | Because he's Sean Bean |
| 19:32.57 | ImpyDroid | NED STARK |
| 19:32.59 | Monet | One of Beans best deaths |
| 19:33.05 | Primisback | Sauron - no you're not gonna defeat me |
| 19:33.14 | ImpyDroid | Xho: Gandalf mentions it too I think |
| 19:33.23 | Xho | But yeah it's impossible to overpower the One Ring unless you're Sauron, it's mentioned a lot |
| 19:33.35 | ImpyDroid | Something like "rite we could kill him with the ring but then we would basically become like him because either would corrupt us" |
| 19:33.43 | Monet | But I agree the One Ring is clever - Sauron takes control of the world by controlling all it's kings and queens. |
| 19:33.51 | Xho | Tyromairon - score |
| 19:34.10 | Monet | Were it not for Celebrimbor. |
| 19:34.11 | OluapPlayer_ | Xho: http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1469288075258.png is your refrigerator running |
| 19:34.18 | Xho | Oh god |
| 19:35.16 | Xho | I'd say Galadriel is probably the most powerful being in Middle-Earth after Sauron |
| 19:35.39 | Hachiman | As in |
| 19:35.46 | Hachiman | The elf woman who has no lines |
| 19:35.50 | Xho | aye |
| 19:36.02 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Fucking elves, ladies and gentlemen |
| 19:36.03 | OluapPlayer_ | Maybe she's relevant in the books idunno |
| 19:36.05 | Xho | Well in the book she's powerful enough to expel Sauron from his fortress |
| 19:36.11 | OluapPlayer_ | c |
| 19:36.23 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer_: She had that monologue in the book |
| 19:36.41 | OluapPlayer_ | I've not read the books |
| 19:36.41 | Monet | She 'aint called the Lady of Light because she's the prettiest elf in the world. |
| 19:36.45 | ImpyDroid | She sees the ring and fantasises about using it to make everyone serve and worship her |
| 19:37.03 | ImpyDroid | "I'LL BE A SEXY EVIL QUEEN YIY" |
| 19:37.34 | OluapPlayer_ | My dad actually had the Two Towers book |
| 19:37.42 | OluapPlayer_ | I remember it being a fairly bulky book |
| 19:38.09 | ImpyDroid | I finished the two books but never the last one |
| 19:38.13 | ImpyDroid | I might finish it now |
| 19:38.16 | ImpyDroid | Actually guys |
| 19:38.26 | Hachiman | Never knew Brazilians could read |
| 19:38.27 | ImpyDroid | Especially Oluap and Hachi |
| 19:38.39 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Oh you're not wrong. |
| 19:38.40 | ImpyDroid | I *really* hate to tell you this |
| 19:38.50 | OluapPlayer_ | Hachiman: bitch stop making me wait |
| 19:38.50 | Monet | Fellowship of the Ring leaves out a lot that was in the books. |
| 19:38.54 | Xho | The books are an arduous read |
| 19:39.03 | ImpyDroid | But remember when you asked if I am going to leave for half a month? |
| 19:39.08 | Monet | Like say...Tom Frikkin Bombadil |
| 19:39.11 | ImpyDroid | Apparently this was tempting fate |
| 19:39.16 | Hachiman | I don't remember asking that |
| 19:39.21 | ImpyDroid | OP did |
| 19:39.22 | OluapPlayer_ | I did |
| 19:39.23 | Hachiman | But I guess you're leaving then |
| 19:39.25 | ImpyDroid | Apparently |
| 19:39.28 | OluapPlayer_ | And Imp got mad at me for it |
| 19:39.31 | ImpyDroid | Well not leaving |
| 19:39.34 | OluapPlayer_ | Now the turns have table'd |
| 19:39.49 | OluapPlayer_ | AnD FUCK |
| 19:39.57 | ImpyDroid | The Internet cable in my house broke |
| 19:40.05 | OluapPlayer_ | Oh |
| 19:40.08 | ImpyDroid | I won't have any for about a week, maybe more, maybe less |
| 19:40.11 | ImpyDroid | Only Droid now |
| 19:40.15 | OluapPlayer_ | I can understand that |
| 19:40.16 | ImpyDroid | Yoy can do stuff without me |
| 19:40.23 | Hachiman | Ouch |
| 19:40.29 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman I guess can take over Javina |
| 19:40.41 | Hachiman | "FUCK WHITEY AMIRITE" |
| 19:40.52 | OluapPlayer_ | fuck whitey as in have sex with khadya |
| 19:40.53 | ImpyDroid | *KUFFAR |
| 19:41.19 | Hachiman | "I CAME HERE TO KILL HERETICS AND SUCK CLIT AND I'M ALL OUT OF HERETICS" |
| 19:41.25 | ImpyDroid | I mean you are an abrasive vaguely LGBT guy with long hair |
| 19:41.33 | OluapPlayer_ | Fucking kek |
| 19:41.53 | Xho | My sides |
| 19:41.59 | Hachiman | ;-; |
| 19:42.45 | OluapPlayer_ | But yes if you don't mind us taking over I really want to get back to Odyssey of the Eat-Sand |
| 19:42.58 | OluapPlayer_ | It's been so long since the last section I can't even recall when it was |
| 19:42.59 | Hachiman | Odyssey of the Fuck Bees |
| 19:43.09 | ImpyDroid | Just do not progress too much I want to have my human subplot eventually |
| 19:43.12 | ImpyDroid | Plz |
| 19:43.23 | OluapPlayer_ | humans are for killing |
| 19:43.23 | OluapPlayer_ | dere |
| 19:43.26 | Hachiman | You will eventually |
| 19:43.41 | ImpyDroid | Javina - ;~; |
| 19:44.20 | Hachiman | Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkZi1jmCTDg |
| 19:44.41 | Xho | Oh god no |
| 19:45.23 | Hachiman | FUCK BEES FUCK BEES FUCK the BEES |
| 19:45.27 | OluapPlayer_ | Fuck Bees is the best thing |
| 19:45.59 | Primisback | 0h shit |
| 19:46.02 | Primisback | bees |
| 19:46.07 | Primisback | AAAAAAAAAA |
| 19:46.10 | DrodoEmpire | Hachiman: why |
| 19:46.12 | DrodoEmpire | just |
| 19:46.13 | DrodoEmpire | why |
| 19:46.13 | Primisback | violently explodes |
| 19:46.16 | DrodoEmpire | ;~; |
| 19:46.22 | OluapPlayer_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlfNR9DNnBU time for bees |
| 19:46.31 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: Fuck bees ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 19:46.39 | OluapPlayer_ | and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcuLjEf1TdA |
| 19:46.48 | DrodoEmpire | ey laymo |
| 19:47.17 | Monet | I just had a thought |
| 19:47.51 | Monet | Among Skaven, Grey Seers train and learn until they day they manage to overpower and eat their master. |
| 19:47.55 | Monet | Right? |
| 19:48.00 | Hachiman | If I recall, yes |
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| 19:48.21 | Spluff5 | Yo |
| 19:48.34 | ImpyDroid | Monet: Darth Rattus |
| 19:48.57 | ImpyDroid | "Peace-peace is a lie, there is only cheese" |
| 19:49.03 | Monet | That must mean there are very few fully-qaulified Grey Seers |
| 19:49.15 | ImpyDroid | "Through cheese, I gain girth" |
| 19:49.22 | Hachiman | There's a limited number of them |
| 19:49.22 | ImpyDroid | "Through girth, I gain energy" |
| 19:49.35 | Hachiman | Under 200 if I remember |
| 19:49.41 | Hachiman | That is why they are very special |
| 19:50.03 | Monet | The system seems geared to ensure a very small number |
| 19:50.13 | ImpyDroid | Monet: That would mean there are interrupted lines of their rule |
| 19:50.19 | ImpyDroid | master to student |
| 19:50.38 | Monet | Veteren Seers eating their intiates is another thing limiting number |
| 19:51.11 | Hachiman | Thanquol is the most special Grey Seer |
| 19:51.12 | Spluff5 | OK WTF? |
| 19:51.54 | OluapPlayer_ | Xho: Can you do Stormy Chasey |
| 19:52.03 | Xho | Yes |
| 19:52.08 | OluapPlayer_ | Then git to it pls |
| 19:52.10 | Hachiman | And I mean special as in Thanquol is fucking retarded |
| 19:52.13 | ImpyDroid | Thanquol and maybe the Seer Lord of Decay |
| 19:52.16 | Xho | when tho |
| 19:52.20 | OluapPlayer_ | nao |
| 19:52.24 | Xho | Oh right |
| 19:52.35 | Monet | Impydroid: THat makes me also wonder: How long can most skaven live for? |
| 19:52.35 | Spluff5 | What's the name of the client you guys use again? |
| 19:52.47 | OluapPlayer_ | Freenode |
| 19:52.57 | Monet | The COuncil of Thirteen are centuries old for instance |
| 19:52.59 | ImpyDroid | Ah hur |
| 19:53.07 | ImpyDroid | Didn't he did some great things during the End Times? |
| 19:53.28 | ImpyDroid | Monet: Depends on how much daemon Mountain Dew they are exposed to |
| 19:53.31 | Hachiman | Normal Skaven live around their 20s |
| 19:53.37 | Hachiman | Special Skaven, into their 50s |
| 19:53.44 | Hachiman | Grey Seers, fuck, probably immortal |
| 19:54.15 | ImpyDroid | If given enough warpstone I guess they might live for a very long time |
| 19:54.26 | ImpyDroid | Then again it may also deteriorate them |
| 19:54.45 | Monet | COme to think of it yeah, |
| 19:54.45 | ImpyDroid | I mean slaves who work on warp cannons die due to Mountain Dew exposure |
| 19:54.51 | ImpyDroid | So hell who knows |
| 19:54.58 | Monet | All the Lords of Decay must be effectively immortal. |
| 19:55.44 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman Monet Xho: http://i.imgur.com/DjtncaGh.jpg Got that badge on the con today, found the perfect place for it |
| 19:56.16 | ImpyDroid | Don't tell me I placed it the wrong way or something hur |
| 19:56.48 | Monet | If one can survive touching the second-biggest piece of mountain dew in the entire world, they must have some hefty mutations. |
| 19:57.33 | Primisback | beautiful ImpyDroid |
| 19:57.36 | Primisback | http://imgur.com/gallery/vxkyM got me |
| 19:58.27 | Monet | Imperios: Trying to work out which insignia that is |
| 19:58.32 | Monet | Feels like Helm |
| 19:58.36 | ImpyDroid | Xho must knowb |
| 19:58.43 | Xho | Hand of the King |
| 19:59.07 | Hachiman | RESPECT MUH AUTHORITAH |
| 19:59.08 | ImpyDroid | As they explained it to me it is for the royal vizier-come-generalissimus |
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| 19:59.19 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 19:59.32 | dfabuhfb | It's me, Spluff5 |
| 19:59.39 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Authoritah of the King |
| 19:59.44 | dfabuhfb | I was just testing a different IRC site |
| 20:00.31 | ImpyDroid | Xho: Is it worn blade down or blade up? |
| 20:00.40 | Monet | Blade down |
| 20:02.09 | dfabuhfb | It's called Kiwi IRC |
| 20:02.59 | Xho | Yeah blade down |
| 20:05.03 | Monet | Actually this reminds me |
| 20:05.27 | Monet | There was a replica Iron Throne at a convention I attended earlier this month. |
| 20:05.59 | Monet | I managed to get a picture of myself siting on it. Not showing it because for some reason my face never turns out well i npictures. |
| 20:09.45 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
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| 20:17.43 | Xho | ~kick Hachiman |
| 20:17.44 | infobot | ACTION kicks Hachiman |
| 20:21.56 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:21.58 | Spluff5 | Any of you guys good at tech stuff? |
| 20:22.25 | Monet | Basically a piece of transparent A4 plastic with stickers of Dory and that cotopus on them |
| 20:22.32 | Monet | Octopus* |
| 20:22.45 | Monet | Spluff5: I am. |
| 20:23.05 | Monet | Wormy_ as well. |
| 20:23.29 | Spluff5 | What would be the theoretical technical applications of magnetic monpoles? |
| 20:23.39 | Spluff5 | monopoles* |
| 20:23.56 | Ghelaway | Generally, catalysing proton decay. |
| 20:24.47 | Ghelaway | If you had multiple types of non-annihilating monopoles, they could bind into magnetic atoms and thus be used to make a much stronger and denser analog of normal matter. |
| 20:25.21 | Spluff5 | BRB |
| 20:25.26 | Ghelaway | So this would be required to make solar-system-sized megastructures such as ringworlds, for example. |
| 20:26.23 | Ghel | Its higher strength could also allow to to make much tougher armour. Although you wouldn't use pure monopole matter, because it's way too heavy. |
| 20:26.52 | Ghel | Oh, okay. |
| 20:29.51 | Wormy_ | Lol |
| 20:30.34 | Ghel | Feel free to beep me if Spluff returns and wants to know more. |
| 20:43.11 | Wormy_ | yep |
| 20:43.39 | Wormy_ | Ghelae, Monet, The_Randomness: Thunderf00t exposes the glaring problems of he hyperloop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNFesa01llk |
| 20:43.49 | The_Randomness | hyperloop? |
| 20:44.27 | Technobliterator | I love Thunderf00t's videos on stuff like that |
| 20:44.38 | Technobliterator | I kinda got bored of all his Sarkeesian rants |
| 20:44.41 | Wormy_ | This concept that sounds futuristic, backed by Elon Musk, that is impractical in the real world |
| 20:44.55 | Wormy_ | Still people think because Elon Musk backs it, it must work |
| 20:45.29 | Ghel | It's quite a long video. |
| 20:45.39 | Ghel | has it on in the background to listen to |
| 20:45.41 | Wormy_ | Essentially accelerating a vehicle down a magnetic track inside a vacuum tube at the speed of sound |
| 20:46.18 | Monet | Might what it later |
| 20:46.25 | Monet | Die Hard's on Film 4 |
| 20:46.52 | Wormy_ | I'm about half-way through, he talks about the amount of steel required to build the tube and the amount of buckling and thermal expansion they would receive, also how it is a really unsafe idea |
| 20:47.21 | Wormy_ | If the tube ruptures, it could essentially kill everyone in the whole network |
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| 20:48.39 | Monet | Solar powered? |
| 20:50.26 | Monet | Maybe Musk is backing it for the technology involved in building and operating it? |
| 20:51.05 | Wormy_ | Possibly, we should keep in mind he is letting start-up companies develop these plans |
| 20:51.26 | Wormy_ | The paper outlined is basic and more of a concept driver, if anything |
| 20:52.05 | Monet | And Musk is encouraging the startups? |
| 20:52.44 | Monet | Got to the bit regarding expansion |
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| 20:54.58 | Monet | A hundreds-of-kilometres-long vacuum tube built in the heart of the San Joaquin Valley...hmmm |
| 20:55.23 | Monet | Yeah you will need to concern youself with thermal expansion, and in such a way that you don't lose containment |
| 20:56.05 | Wormy_ | I think it was Musk's idea, and he is leaving other companies to compete/innovate |
| 20:56.28 | Ghel | "It's bringing all of the impracticalities of space travel down to the surface of the Earth" |
| 20:56.48 | Monet | If so, then if this thing fails Musk may be laughing all the way to the bank. |
| 20:59.17 | Monet | I think you've hit what Musk is doing. |
| 21:00.48 | Monet | Musk became a billionaire by encouraging industry and nurturing new businesses before putting them up for sale. |
| 21:02.26 | Wormy_ | "And then firing it down a gun barrel" |
| 21:02.38 | Wormy_ | I'm Not going in one of these things |
| 21:04.47 | Monet | The US Navy is trying ot build their own hypersonic cannons. |
| 21:05.13 | Monet | https://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Bohler-9561-1024x768.jpg I just can't see that supporting a vacuum |
| 21:10.55 | Wormy_ | The intense concussion wave created by air at 1 atmosphere filling the tube at the speed of sound would probably crush the vehicle like a tin can |
| 21:14.33 | Ghel | I had originally imagined the hyperloop would be built underground, which would help with some of the problems. On the other hand, it would also make rescue in the case of a disaster even more impossible. |
| 21:17.50 | Xho | Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNSvJc0LgHg |
| 21:18.55 | Monet | Yeah if anything goes wrong during operation the thing would die incredibly fast. |
| 21:20.19 | Wormy_ | There's the possibility of seismic tremors distorting the tubes in many places. |
| 21:21.45 | Ghel | Oh, yeah. Don't put the tube underground somewhere with an active fault zone. Like, I don't know, California. |
| 21:22.03 | Wormy_ | lol |
| 21:25.43 | Monet | Hmm. |
| 21:26.21 | Monet | All this stuff they've shown so far, the startups might still do well for investors |
| 21:27.10 | Monet | Even with all these problems I can see Invstors going "ehh we can fix this with some funding and blue-sky thinking" |
| 21:28.45 | Wormy_ | According to this blog, https://pedestrianobservations.wordpress.com/2013/08/13/loopy-ideas-are-fine-if-youre-an-entrepreneur/ |
| 21:31.38 | Charles_Murray | Monet Wormy_ DrodoEmpire ImpyDroid Technobliterator UPDATE! http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#.E2.80.A2_LIVE:_Commonwealth_Civil_War_.28link.29 |
| 21:31.51 | Technobliterator | sec |
| 21:32.53 | DrodoEmpire | Things're heating up |
| 21:33.07 | DrodoEmpire | I may have to respond with some Drodo politicians/aristocrats |
| 21:34.04 | Technobliterator | :o |
| 21:35.13 | Wormy_ | Looks like a very multi-faceted problem for France to deal with |
| 21:37.00 | Charles_Murray | I forgot that the bill authorizing military expenditure in Borealis to deal with the threat is still bogged down |
| 21:37.11 | Charles_Murray | I forgot to mention it, I mean |
| 21:37.56 | Monet | "We need money to deal with the refugees!" "Where do we get it?" "UGA" "wait why do we need this relief fund again?" |
| 21:38.13 | Monet | The French parliament bust be a fun place to be this week. |
| 21:38.23 | Charles_Murray | Yeah lol |
| 21:38.45 | Charles_Murray | Welcome to how parliaments work in general xD |
| 21:38.48 | Monet | Wormy_: Yeah this article hits the issue on the head: People trust in the idea because they Trust in Musk. |
| 21:38.59 | Charles_Murray | They border on schizophrenia |
| 21:40.27 | Charles_Murray | There |
| 21:40.32 | Charles_Murray | Added this: "The bill which would allow the Grand Navy of the Empire to deploy to Borealis is still bogged down." |
| 21:41.29 | Monet | The billionaires of Silicon Valley have this uncanny ability to sell any idea, so long as it sounds wacky and blue-sky enough. Or that they can bring in something form the 2100s. |
| 21:44.24 | Charles_Murray | Wormy_ Monet DrodoEmpire ImpyDroid France may have a strong presence in many places in the Gigaquadrant, but it has to deal with this bullshit on a daily basis |
| 21:45.41 | Monet | Charles_Murray: One of democracy's flaws is that any attempt to get stuff done has ot first go though hours upon hours of argument. |
| 21:46.00 | ImpyDroid | Iovera - *topkek* |
| 21:46.38 | ImpyDroid | Charles_Murray: Loron swarm led by Gazel'bub, who commands a faction named "Gazel'bub's Boyz." Will not stop attacking France until "dey get lost an giv us deir bred." |
| 21:46.41 | ImpyDroid | I fucking died |
| 21:46.55 | Charles_Murray | :D |
| 21:48.02 | Technobliterator | hey, I gave the comment |
| 21:48.03 | Technobliterator | :p |
| 21:48.33 | Monet | Imagine if Domion's or Pizza Hut ever branched out into Borealis. |
| 21:48.54 | Charles_Murray | ImpyDroid: Yeah, creds to Techno for that |
| 21:49.10 | Technobliterator | I imagine similar organisations are alreayd popular in it |
| 21:49.22 | ImpyDroid | I wonder what Lorons make their pizza from |
| 21:49.36 | ImpyDroid | What sort of tomato analogues and cheese they have |
| 21:49.37 | Technobliterator | Presumably the same things humans do? |
| 21:49.38 | Technobliterator | I mean |
| 21:49.42 | Technobliterator | I never really thought about it :v |
| 21:49.56 | ImpyDroid | Well imagine a pizza made from some alien vegetables |
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| 21:50.05 | ImpyDroid | Maybe it is green |
| 21:50.10 | ImpyDroid | Hi Ink |
| 21:50.43 | Liquid_Ink | He |
| 21:50.45 | Liquid_Ink | *hey |
| 21:50.50 | OluapPlayer_ | They're aliens, so they don't have access to human food |
| 21:52.06 | ImpyDroid | I can sort of imagine Lorons turning entire worlds into farmland for pizza |
| 21:52.08 | Monet | They might still have access to flour. |
| 21:52.13 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.17 | ImpyDroid | Well whatever they make flour from |
| 21:52.36 | ImpyDroid | That Lorons actually invented pizza is not so implausible BTW |
| 21:52.39 | Charles_Murray | ImpyDroid pizza doesn't grow on trees dum |
| 21:52.44 | Charles_Murray | Or maybe Loron pizza does |
| 21:52.58 | Monet | No but some of the ingredients for pizza does. |
| 21:52.58 | ImpyDroid | Charles_Murray: As in, for flour, vegetables and meat |
| 21:53.01 | ImpyDroid | And milk |
| 21:53.06 | ImpyDroid | Anyway |
| 21:53.35 | Wormy_ | Flour can be made from many different starches on Earth |
| 21:53.40 | ImpyDroid | Flatbread is eaten almost everywhere on Earth, so that Lorons invented flatbread as well is actually plausible |
| 21:53.48 | Monet | Loro n do appear aware of what a banana is. |
| 21:53.52 | OluapPlayer_ | You mean an equivalent |
| 21:53.59 | Wormy_ | So presumably analogs exist on their world to cereal grains or roots. |
| 21:54.06 | ImpyDroid | An quivalwnt of what? |
| 21:54.15 | OluapPlayer_ | Flatbread |
| 21:54.25 | OluapPlayer_ | That's like saying Dracogonarious invented beef because they're carnivores |
| 21:54.53 | ImpyDroid | Well I mean flatbread should not be unique to humans |
| 21:55.10 | OluapPlayer_ | I'm talking about ingredients |
| 21:55.12 | ImpyDroid | As long as there is something flour-like you can make into a paste and cook it |
| 21:55.16 | ImpyDroid | You can have flatbread |
| 21:55.39 | OluapPlayer_ | Groodrub wouldn't have the exact same ingredients of Earth |
| 21:55.39 | Monet | The invention of bread was probably one of early humanity's greater landmarks. |
| 21:55.52 | OluapPlayer_ | And the Loron have had pizza since before they got to space |
| 21:55.53 | Wormy_ | But wouldn't male Loron likely to just eat the raw ingredients? |
| 21:56.10 | OluapPlayer_ | Loron don't make pizza themselves, they have the Norol do it for them |
| 21:56.12 | Wormy_ | They're a bit dumb to be chefs imo |
| 21:56.25 | Wormy_ | Makes sense |
| 21:56.56 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: yeah but it probably had some seeds you could grind into flour to make dough and cook it into flatbread |
| 21:57.15 | OluapPlayer_ | Sure but that doesn't mean Loron invented human flatbread |
| 21:57.36 | Wormy_ | Its just coincidental invention |
| 21:57.55 | ImpyDroid | Yeah they invented Loron flatbread I guess |
| 21:57.55 | Technobliterator | The Norol could easily cook pizza |
| 21:58.09 | OluapPlayer_ | They couldn't, they do right now hur |
| 21:58.11 | Monet | It would still be flatbread tbf. Aside from what the seeds are and the composition of the milk, it'd still be flatbread. |
| 21:58.12 | ImpyDroid | Flatbread is more of a generic term for any bread that is... well flat |
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| 21:58.18 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 21:58.19 | Monet | ^ |
| 21:58.20 | Technobliterator | I just sort of imagined human ingredients happened to exist on Groodrub and then they just ran with it |
| 21:58.21 | Monet | Hi |
| 21:58.24 | Technobliterator | hihi |
| 21:58.31 | OluapPlayer_ | That's incredibly unrealistic hur |
| 21:58.40 | Technobliterator | :V |
| 21:58.43 | Technobliterator | ok |
| 21:58.46 | Technobliterator | the Taldar put them there |
| 21:58.48 | Technobliterator | does that work |
| 21:58.51 | Wormy_ | Human ingredients might give them digestive problems if the chemical make-up is too different |
| 21:58.52 | OluapPlayer_ | No |
| 21:58.53 | Monet | Works for me lol |
| 21:58.55 | Technobliterator | :C |
| 21:58.58 | OluapPlayer_ | Just say they have similar ingredients |
| 21:58.58 | ImpyDroid | Technobliterator: Well |
| 21:59.04 | ImpyDroid | The only real stretch is tomatoes |
| 21:59.06 | Technobliterator | yeah sure |
| 21:59.10 | OluapPlayer_ | It's not like anyone minds that much about how Loron pizza tastes like |
| 21:59.10 | Technobliterator | mhm |
| 21:59.25 | ImpyDroid | Groodrub probably had some mammals |
| 21:59.29 | Technobliterator | I mean, the Loron are already unrealistic, probably |
| 21:59.29 | ImpyDroid | Some could be domesticated |
| 21:59.34 | ImpyDroid | Some could be milked |
| 21:59.39 | OluapPlayer_ | They use their equivalent of flour, their equivalent of milk, etc |
| 21:59.41 | ImpyDroid | This milk could be made into cheese easily |
| 21:59.43 | Wormy_ | But like I said, " Its possible it is alien food native to the Loron's world, but modified to look and taste like human pizza" |
| 21:59.54 | Monet | Flour is kind of another generic term. |
| 21:59.56 | Xho | Mad'Hatta - ELDRITCH ABOMINATIONZ BECUZ DUM LORON INGREDIENTS M8 |
| 22:00.04 | Monet | Since you can make flour from all kinds of seeds |
| 22:00.04 | ImpyDroid | Yeah flour cheese and meat could easily be present on Groodrub |
| 22:00.12 | ImpyDroid | The only real stretch is tomato |
| 22:00.24 | Technobliterator | ok, so |
| 22:00.28 | Technobliterator | Tuolog put tomatoes there |
| 22:00.30 | ImpyDroid | But who knows maybe Loron season their pizza with the coagulated blood of their enemies |
| 22:00.34 | ImpyDroid | Rather than tomato paste |
| 22:00.41 | Technobliterator | knowing that in all possible timelines, the Loron invention of pizza improved the race |
| 22:00.53 | Technobliterator | and improved the ability for UNO and URO to cooperate with them |
| 22:00.56 | The_Randomness | "a wizard did it" |
| 22:00.59 | ImpyDroid | Blood soup is a thing on Earth |
| 22:00.59 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 22:01.00 | The_Randomness | SeemsGood |
| 22:01.03 | Technobliterator | lmao |
| 22:01.14 | OluapPlayer_ | Ngh I literally just gave an explanation |
| 22:01.17 | OluapPlayer_ | Well, me and Imp did |
| 22:01.19 | Wormy_ | There are several fruits that look and taste a bit like tomatoes on Earth, like Physilis and tomartillos |
| 22:01.41 | Wormy_ | So its possible convergent evolution evolved tomato-like fruits as well |
| 22:01.44 | Ghel | It's not an implausible amount of convergent evolution. |
| 22:01.47 | Technobliterator | yeah, but like Imp said, tomatoes don't really work |
| 22:01.59 | Technobliterator | unless they have an equivalent of tomatoes |
| 22:02.02 | OluapPlayer_ | Why? |
| 22:02.08 | Monet | Tomatoes are the only ingredient that's specific. |
| 22:02.14 | OluapPlayer_ | Groodrub could just have tomato-like plants |
| 22:02.17 | Technobliterator | and would be unlikely to exist |
| 22:02.18 | Technobliterator | yeah, probably |
| 22:02.21 | OluapPlayer_ | And the Loron just use those instead |
| 22:02.22 | Wormy_ | Oh the poisonous potato plant's fruit (althoygh both are members of the nightshade family so thats not surprising) |
| 22:02.25 | Ghel | An equivalent of tomatoes is no less plausible than planets in Cyrannus evolving dinosaurs. |
| 22:02.31 | Technobliterator | hahaha |
| 22:02.32 | Technobliterator | fair point |
| 22:02.40 | OluapPlayer_ | Their pizza is obviously not the same as human pizza on the matter that they're aliens |
| 22:02.48 | Monet | Everything else in pizza dough is quite general. |
| 22:02.48 | OluapPlayer_ | You don't NEED human ingredients involved |
| 22:02.52 | ImpyDroid | I am still for the idea of Lorons seasoning their pizza with congealed blood |
| 22:02.57 | Technobliterator | yeah, no |
| 22:02.59 | Technobliterator | that's gross |
| 22:03.05 | ImpyDroid | Spartans did it |
| 22:03.05 | OluapPlayer_ | Loron are gross tho |
| 22:03.11 | Technobliterator | This is true |
| 22:03.14 | Technobliterator | but euch |
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| 22:03.22 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 22:03.23 | ImpyDroid | Black pudding has some blood too |
| 22:03.25 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 22:03.25 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 22:03.26 | Monet | Technobliterator: Not much more gross than black pudding |
| 22:03.32 | ImpyDroid | Hivemind here |
| 22:03.44 | Ghel | Black pudding pizza. |
| 22:03.50 | Ghel | ought to try that some time |
| 22:03.55 | Wormy_ | Loron have very English tastes |
| 22:04.10 | ImpyDroid | Considering they are like space Brits it makes sense |
| 22:04.41 | Technobliterator | Not really |
| 22:04.45 | Technobliterator | they're just space chavs |
| 22:04.52 | Monet | Yeah the Loron aren't fully plausible. |
| 22:05.01 | Technobliterator | Of course not |
| 22:05.04 | Monet | Like they invented rap. |
| 22:05.19 | Technobliterator | Inventing rap does not sound implausible compared to everything else |
| 22:05.22 | Monet | Or perhaps, an equivalent of rap |
| 22:05.27 | Technobliterator | like how they're stupidly strong |
| 22:05.41 | Technobliterator | all inventing rap involves is just talking to some rhythm and having a guy bang on drums |
| 22:06.01 | Wormy_ | And intelligent enough to talk and use weapons but stereotypically dumb |
| 22:06.11 | Monet | Well rap does have roots in jazz and blues. |
| 22:06.19 | ImpyDroid | This reminds me |
| 22:06.42 | ImpyDroid | http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvilBrit Does this trope apply to Lorons? |
| 22:06.59 | Technobliterator | no |
| 22:07.10 | Technobliterator | Loron aren't evil, just savage |
| 22:07.11 | Wormy_ | That's an upper-class trope. |
| 22:07.54 | Monet | Rap and chav culture in the UK is also possibly related to South Californian African-American culture. |
| 22:07.55 | Technobliterator | Also that |
| 22:07.55 | OluapPlayer_ | I always treated the Loron as evil |
| 22:08.07 | OluapPlayer_ | I mean, just look at every Loron I've ever made |
| 22:08.11 | Technobliterator | They're technically evil, but it's not a deliberate thing |
| 22:08.12 | OluapPlayer_ | They're all pretty clearly evil |
| 22:08.14 | Technobliterator | they're just savage |
| 22:08.21 | Technobliterator | and animalistic |
| 22:08.27 | Monet | I mean I listen to say 50 Cent then try to recall chavspeak - very little difference. |
| 22:08.31 | Technobliterator | they act purely on instinct |
| 22:08.39 | Technobliterator | uh |
| 22:08.44 | Technobliterator | there are quite a few differences |
| 22:08.45 | Wormy_ | They are chaotic barbarians |
| 22:08.50 | Technobliterator | And 50 Cent is definitely not South Californian |
| 22:08.53 | OluapPlayer_ | Yeah but their instinct includes "laugh at the pain of your enemies" |
| 22:09.01 | Wormy_ | Think of the Vandals etc. |
| 22:09.21 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 22:09.29 | Wormy_ | Though the Vandals were probably more organised and strategic |
| 22:09.33 | Technobliterator | but that's just an animalistic thing to do |
| 22:09.43 | Technobliterator | they're evil because they have no limits, basically |
| 22:09.44 | OluapPlayer_ | I'll still treat the likes of Hagto'Zhl and Ray'loth are downright evil |
| 22:09.48 | ImpyDroid | I always imagined that if SporeWiki was made into a cartoon, the Lorons would be the main villains |
| 22:09.48 | Technobliterator | of course |
| 22:09.50 | OluapPlayer_ | *as |
| 22:10.02 | Monet | I might have made assumptions as I tried to avoid chav culture while growing up. |
| 22:10.08 | Technobliterator | but they're basically evil because they don't know the consequences of their actions |
| 22:10.14 | Technobliterator | or rather, don't care about them |
| 22:10.22 | OluapPlayer_ | And Gratz'kaoz is the biggest of evils in a pit of evil |
| 22:10.29 | Technobliterator | Gratz'kaoz is the exception |
| 22:10.31 | Technobliterator | He is pure evil |
| 22:10.32 | Xho | Angazhar- mah nigga |
| 22:10.43 | Monet | I admit I used to not like rap back when I was a child. |
| 22:10.56 | Technobliterator | I sort of grew up with it |
| 22:11.03 | Technobliterator | I really dislike modern rap |
| 22:11.06 | Technobliterator | it's so bad now |
| 22:11.12 | Technobliterator | with a few exceptions (ie Kendrick Lamar) |
| 22:11.45 | Monet | Mentioning 50 Cent was a good demonstration of how distant to it I was. |
| 22:11.56 | ImpyDroid | I am not a fan of Russian rap or most American rap |
| 22:11.58 | OluapPlayer_ | I never liked rap, in the past and in the present :v |
| 22:12.02 | ImpyDroid | But I like British rap |
| 22:12.04 | Xho | dj0nt |
| 22:12.14 | ImpyDroid | And espwcially Serbian rap for some reason |
| 22:12.20 | ImpyDroid | Really Serbian rap is really good |
| 22:12.29 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer_, isn;t that true with most music with lyrics for you? :p |
| 22:12.30 | Monet | 50 Cent and Eminem are probably the only rappers I could think of. |
| 22:12.36 | OluapPlayer_ | It is |
| 22:12.38 | Technobliterator | oh man |
| 22:12.40 | Technobliterator | Eminem is like |
| 22:12.45 | OluapPlayer_ | I like some rock though |
| 22:12.49 | Technobliterator | I dunno if he's my favourite artist of all time |
| 22:12.51 | Technobliterator | but he's up there |
| 22:12.57 | Monet | Oh and Kanye |
| 22:12.59 | Technobliterator | yeah, I like plenty of rock |
| 22:13.04 | Technobliterator | Kanye West |
| 22:13.04 | Technobliterator | well |
| 22:13.08 | Technobliterator | everyone knows my thoughts on him |
| 22:13.09 | Technobliterator | :V |
| 22:13.12 | OluapPlayer_ | All I know about Kanye is that he's the epic self-centered man |
| 22:13.26 | Technobliterator | Who makes exceptional music |
| 22:13.31 | Technobliterator | But that doesn't justify his ego |
| 22:13.33 | Xho | http://img.ifcdn.com/images/7d19f2f008044b1bd2fb90bce83ca4799980a40936ae2862bdae27f1c6f69ee7_1.jpg |
| 22:13.34 | Technobliterator | he's a douche |
| 22:13.44 | Technobliterator | who very occasionally does good things |
| 22:14.14 | OluapPlayer_ | Speaking of real music |
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| 22:14.26 | OluapPlayer_ | What even happened to Justin Bieber? I've not heard of him in a while |
| 22:14.27 | Monet | I don't think I liked rap because back when I was 11-13 all I saw of it was stupidly rich black guys chanting about how tough it is on the street. |
| 22:14.37 | OluapPlayer_ | I remember we had a gag about Zr'Ahgloth listening to Beeba |
| 22:14.43 | ImpyDroid2 | Technobliterator: https://youtu.be/SmORNrYKMxg Serbian rap |
| 22:15.14 | ImpyDroid2 | https://youtu.be/nP1DUANKI7M and more |
| 22:15.26 | Technobliterator | Well the person himself is still an absolute piece of shit |
| 22:15.30 | Technobliterator | But his music is more tolerable |
| 22:15.49 | OluapPlayer_ | I think we had a section where Zr'Ahgloth had Bieber posters in his wardrobe |
| 22:15.53 | Monet | He's been getting a little better musically since his balls finally dropped. |
| 22:15.54 | Technobliterator | ahahaha |
| 22:15.55 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 22:15.58 | Technobliterator | that was funny |
| 22:16.05 | OluapPlayer_ | Then later we had Hagto'Zhl do the same thing |
| 22:16.30 | Technobliterator | ImpyDroid2, I would like this more if I understood what they were saying :V |
| 22:16.39 | Monet | My music heroes growing up were...erm... |
| 22:16.48 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:17.03 | ImpyDroid2 | Technobliterator: "Death to America, gib Kosovo, love Jesus" |
| 22:17.18 | Monet | Then at about 15 I got into Queen. |
| 22:17.25 | Technobliterator | heh |
| 22:17.27 | Technobliterator | oh, Queen is the best |
| 22:17.27 | ImpyDroid2 | There we go 75% of all Serbian thoughts |
| 22:19.32 | ImpyDroid2 | I would tell you about my musical heroes but they would all be some Russians whose names you won't even be able to pronounce |
| 22:19.59 | Monet | I was also int oclassical |
| 22:21.06 | Monet | First heard Adiago For Strings when I was 9-10, Mozart's Requiem when I was 12. |
| 22:21.13 | ImpyDroid2 | https://youtu.be/0R01ioUmrPw Well I liked this band as a kid |
| 22:21.25 | Monet | Both of those I could probably sing all the way through. |
| 22:21.27 | DrodoEmpire | Technobliterator, I'm back |
| 22:21.38 | Technobliterator | \o/ |
| 22:22.56 | ImpyDroid2 | https://youtu.be/Cc106oKAA20 And this one |
| 22:23.09 | ImpyDroid2 | That is classic Russian rock and metal basically |
| 22:23.19 | ImpyDroid2 | In case of the latter band, even Soviet metal |
| 22:24.12 | Monet | I wrote the Draconis as being obsessed with classical music because back in 2011 that was the kind of music I was most comfortable with. |
| 22:25.02 | Monet | Might have been because my brother wanted to learn the piano then later the violin, the former I also tried dabbling with. |
| 22:25.18 | ImpyDroid2 | I like classical music that is not too old |
| 22:25.47 | ImpyDroid2 | Like Khachaturian, Prokofiev, Shostakovitch |
| 22:25.51 | Monet | Blame the piano being in a high-traffic part of the house and music was a part of my school's curriculum in years 7 to 9 |
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| 22:27.04 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 22:27.06 | ImpyDroid2 | Vivaldi is the only exception when it comes to old classical music |
| 22:27.32 | ImpyDroid2 | Actual high classical music I never really cared about |
| 22:27.52 | ImpyDroid2 | Can't name anything about Beethoven or Mozart but 20th century classical tho |
| 22:28.25 | Monet | I can name a couple. |
| 22:28.50 | Monet | Requiem is one of my favourite compositions. |
| 22:29.17 | ImpyDroid2 | Masquerade Waltz plz |
| 22:30.06 | ImpyDroid2 | Waltz 2 from Jazz Suite plz |
| 22:30.19 | ImpyDroid2 | Overture on the Hebrew Themes plz |
| 22:30.20 | Monet | Everyone knows Beethoven's 5th Symphony. |
| 22:30.58 | ImpyDroid2 | ^ observe two pretentious upper class snobs |
| 22:31.08 | Technobliterator | Pffft |
| 22:31.30 | Monet | It's one thing to know the opening notes. |
| 22:32.07 | Monet | It's the rest that is less well-known. |
| 22:32.23 | ImpyDroid2 | Sleeperios |
| 22:32.32 | ImpyDroid2 | Alrighty then I guess it is time to go to ber |
| 22:32.55 | Monet | "Can somebody get this walking carpet out of my way?" https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoJulfZXEAAC-Mf.jpg:large |
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| 22:39.30 | Charles_Bot | Reading about the history of American foreign policy during the Cold War |
| 22:40.21 | Charles_Bot | Having grown up with Germany being one country, I'm having trouble comprehending the fact that it used to be two |
| 22:41.12 | Monet | You're not alone. |
| 22:41.54 | Technobliterator | I despise the Cold War and how the foreign policy of the time was basically that building more bombs solves all our problems |
| 22:42.45 | Monet | Bit of a gross oversimplification over such a paradigm-defining period. |
| 22:43.22 | Charles_Bot | Nuclear experts agree with you; you only need so many nuclear weapons for nuclear deterrence to work |
| 22:43.55 | Charles_Bot | Anything beyond that is a waste of resources |
| 22:44.04 | Technobliterator | This does not fill me with confidence at all |
| 22:44.40 | DrodoEmpire | "Yeah guys, for nuclear deterrence for work we only need enough bombs to destroy civilization *twice* over!" |
| 22:44.45 | Technobliterator | ^ |
| 22:45.00 | Xho | Guys |
| 22:45.00 | Technobliterator | I do respect how the Cold War advanced the space race a lot, though |
| 22:45.03 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 22:45.05 | Technobliterator | It's a fascinating period |
| 22:45.15 | DrodoEmpire | Cold War/Post-War did wonders for technology |
| 22:45.20 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 22:46.51 | Charles_Bot | Nuclear sufficiency is just about having enough nuclear weapons that you can inflict unacceptable losses on your opponent in a second strike >.< |
| 22:47.37 | Charles_Bot | Having enough nuclear weapons to destroy the human race even once is excessive. |
| 22:47.42 | Monet | From what I've heard the Cold War era itself was, for the Western world, a time of both paranoia and unprecedented prosperity. |
| 22:49.40 | Charles_Bot | But there are diplomatic and strategic reasons to do it, definitely, but a lot of it was cultural. Would you believe that the USSR had a bigger arsenal than the US through the entire Cold War, and Russia still has a bigger stockpile than the US? |
| 22:50.40 | Monet | 1962 you had Cuban Missile Crisis, but also the rise of the Trashmen and the Rolling Stones. |
| 22:50.50 | Charles_Bot | Anyway |
| 22:51.18 | Charles_Bot | I'm not sure how you can morally judge a period O.o |
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| 22:51.25 | Charles_Bot | It kind of just happened |
| 22:52.45 | Monet | Agreed. |
| 22:54.05 | Monet | It had its dark periods, but it was also progressively a great time to be alive. |
| 22:54.27 | Technobliterator | I am still not sold on the concept of mutually assured destruction at all, and I cannot think of a friend I have who spends his or her time buying weapons just in case I may one day possibly attack his or her home |
| 22:55.06 | Monet | This sort of analogy is a little more complicated at the national level. |
| 22:55.10 | The_Randomness | ^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 22:55.13 | Technobliterator | I am of the opinion that if there were enough honest people, we would have global disarmament, acknowledging that what happened in Japan at the end of the war cannot possibly be repeated |
| 22:55.59 | Technobliterator | Okay, but how is actively building bigger bombs than the other guy not going to provoke them? |
| 22:56.24 | DrodoEmpire | Its pretty much the mexican standoff scaled up to the size of civilizations |
| 22:56.28 | Technobliterator | "hey man, I love you so much that I'm going to make my bombs bigger than yours so you wouldn't possibly attack me!" "awww, how cute, I'm so glad you're my friend" |
| 22:56.49 | Charles_Bot | Well |
| 22:56.57 | DrodoEmpire | I think a deep rivalry undercuts the entire concept, and its a pretty cynical idea |
| 22:57.02 | DrodoEmpire | But it *seems* to work, unfortunately |
| 22:57.04 | Monet | Definitely |
| 22:57.08 | Charles_Bot | I would actually disagree |
| 22:57.30 | DrodoEmpire | Really I think the current interconnectedness of the world economy is, at this point, enough of a deterrent for developed nations to go to war |
| 22:57.46 | Technobliterator | Indeed |
| 22:57.54 | DrodoEmpire | If France were to invade Germany, the economy would take a complete shit |
| 22:57.58 | Monet | Capitalism and Communism were philosophically opposed back them. |
| 22:58.22 | Technobliterator | Like, China and Saudi Arabia are complete violators of human rights, but no one would go to war with them because of the same reason |
| 22:58.26 | Technobliterator | it'd tank the economy |
| 22:58.28 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 22:58.45 | DrodoEmpire | I mean both wars wouldn't be *too* hard for the USA, as they both have pretty terrible militaries |
| 22:58.48 | Charles_Bot | Can I pls explain |
| 22:59.01 | DrodoEmpire | China's is huge but incompetent, Arabia's is advanced but incompetent |
| 22:59.05 | DrodoEmpire | Alright |
| 22:59.18 | Xho | guys pls |
| 22:59.36 | Technobliterator | You can, but chances are I may end up accepting the idea but still not liking it. I accept the existence of the monarchy because it's economically beneficial but I don't like that either. |
| 23:00.00 | Charles_Bot | Link me to the side channel so we can all go there? |
| 23:00.14 | DrodoEmpire | #sporewiki-offtopic |
| 23:00.31 | Technobliterator | it's in the topic :p |
| 23:01.08 | Charles_Bot | On my phone |
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| 23:23.40 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Storm_Chaser#The_Wolf awoo |
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| 23:24.16 | OluapPlayer_ | meow |
| 23:27.00 | OluapPlayer_ | http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/926/615/e71.png Pelagrios when the rum is over |
| 23:32.46 | DrodoEmpire | "Outrageous!" |
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| 23:38.01 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Hard_Contact - Two new chapter |
| 23:38.02 | DrodoEmpire | *s |
| 23:38.19 | Technobliterator | yes, check those please :o |
| 23:38.30 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 23:38.30 | Technobliterator | I will definitely be putting it in the first fictionverse read day |
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| 23:43.53 | OluapPlayer_ | This Kyada fellow is a douche |
| 23:44.11 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 23:45.45 | Technobliterator | Yup |
| 23:47.46 | OluapPlayer_ | Speaking of Borealis crime |
| 23:47.53 | OluapPlayer_ | Technobliterator: I wanted your opinion on something |
| 23:48.01 | Technobliterator | Oh? |
| 23:48.13 | OluapPlayer_ | I intend to remake the Most Wanted page |
| 23:48.38 | OluapPlayer_ | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:OluapPlayer/Sandbox#Random_Stuff how is this for a new ranking description? Mind you I'll probably come up with a better layout than this |
| 23:49.23 | OluapPlayer_ | You can make suggestions if you have any |
| 23:49.46 | Technobliterator | My only issue is Genrai is no longer KIA in canon |
| 23:50.02 | Technobliterator | and I am so lazy for not recanonising that story already |
| 23:50.43 | OluapPlayer_ | Yeah that's your fault and not mine hur |
| 23:50.48 | Technobliterator | haha yeah |
| 23:50.57 | Technobliterator | I do like the new ranking description a lot |
| 23:51.09 | Technobliterator | It's more descriptive |
| 23:51.24 | OluapPlayer_ | Billig got demoted but the list as a whole became more dangerous in scale |
| 23:51.56 | Technobliterator | I mean, he's not exactly a threat to the existence of the galaxy |
| 23:51.58 | Technobliterator | so it makes sense |
| 23:52.19 | Technobliterator | As for the layout, I can come up with new ideas |
| 23:52.37 | OluapPlayer_ | He was back during the Taldar secrets arc, but that's been done for a while |
| 23:52.53 | OluapPlayer_ | He's still considered the top ranking threat to the PCA's stability |
| 23:52.54 | Technobliterator | mhm |
| 23:53.43 | OluapPlayer_ | Dangerous to the nations of the area they operate -> Dangerous to the stability of the galactic government -> oh god they wanna blow the galaxy up |
| 23:54.17 | Technobliterator | Where would Kyada be on the threat list? D-Class? |
| 23:54.32 | OluapPlayer_ | Either D or C |
| 23:54.42 | OluapPlayer_ | Depends of how influential he is |
| 23:55.48 | OluapPlayer_ | But considering how badly known he is, he is probably not even on the list |
| 23:56.00 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 23:56.01 | Technobliterator | yeah, that's fair |
| 23:56.11 | Technobliterator | And he's thought of as a good guy atm |
| 23:56.15 | DrodoEmpire | As far as anybody's concerned he's just a sketchy ship salesman |
| 23:57.18 | Technobliterator | hahahahaha |
| 23:57.19 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer_, https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/13754190_1016950271753264_314979656520071493_n.png?oh=b3ebf4133fa3055f3c03f29c6a221d16&oe=5830A735 |
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| 23:57.35 | OluapPlayer_ | Oh dear |
| 23:58.00 | Technobliterator | denied of his vision |
| 23:58.10 | OluapPlayer_ | Is the Guild of Shadows still around? |
| 23:58.26 | Technobliterator | yeah, but what happens to them will be revealed later |
