| 01:11.08 | Charles_Bot | DrodoEmpire |
| 01:11.12 | Charles_Bot | Monet |
| 01:11.24 | Monet | Hi |
| 01:11.30 | Charles_Bot | There's an American diplomat whose name I never truly appreciated before now |
| 01:11.37 | DrodoEmpire | Oh? |
| 01:12.09 | Charles_Bot | It's "Eagleburger," I KID YOU NOT |
| 01:12.43 | Monet | That's his surname? |
| 01:12.55 | Charles_Bot | Yes |
| 01:12.57 | Charles_Bot | https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Eagleburger |
| 01:13.53 | DrodoEmpire | ohgod |
| 01:14.09 | DrodoEmpire | That man was destined to work for the US government X |
| 01:14.10 | DrodoEmpire | *XD |
| 01:14.11 | Charles_Bot | So much yes |
| 01:14.15 | Charles_Bot | So much freedom |
| 01:14.55 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 01:15.05 | The_Randomness | That is a glorious name |
| 01:16.50 | Monet | Indeed it is! |
| 01:17.03 | Monet | Embodying what makes America great. |
| 01:40.59 | Quark8 | test |
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| 02:47.06 | DrodoEmpire | test |
| 02:47.07 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
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| 09:09.09 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 09:29.32 | Wormy_ | ~seen Hachiman |
| 09:29.34 | infobot | hachiman <5aff2fd5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.90.255.47.213> was last seen on IRC in channel #sporewiki, 5d 12h 11m 47s ago, saying: 'ImpyAndroid: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/13729091_1185006624853459_6886726928204570569_n.jpg?oh=e728574f269e3764b24965f36d729a7d&oe=58223CD3'. |
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| 09:43.12 | Wormy_ | i |
| 09:43.25 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
| 09:45.40 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 09:46.36 | Ghelae | So there's now a robot that's armed with a laser and able to fire it without human supervision. |
| 09:46.54 | Ghelae | https://www.newscientist.com/article/2098328-mars-rover-curiosity-gets-license-to-shoot-its-laser-at-will/ |
| 09:47.14 | Wormy_ | Got to go, will read it later |
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| 11:15.07 | Wormy_away | Ghelae: Yeah its part of the cutting edge AI and robotics, to be able to get rovers to act autonomously. Because due to the time delay and all the planning involved, getting a rover from A to B misses so much |
| 11:16.40 | Wormy_away | One of my planetary science lectures featured some work done by the Uni of Leicester to give the rover pattern recognition software meant to analyse geological structures and lithological profiles by itself |
| 11:16.51 | Wormy_away | *European Exomars rover |
| 11:18.49 | Ghelae | That sounds a bit like Curiosity's software update, although that seems focused more on seeing what's geologically interesting than actually analysing the geology itself. |
| 11:22.34 | Wormy_away | Yeah |
| 11:23.15 | Wormy_away | Both abilities will be essential for space prospecting probes in the mining business |
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| 11:44.23 | Imperios | That's a lot of mes |
| 12:04.08 | Wormy_away | Imperios: Benin Empire flag https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--i7dULOy_--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18r58xe9j7g36jpg.jpg |
| 12:04.33 | Imperios | Behead those who oppose Benin |
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| 12:21.59 | Monet | Wormy_away, Imperios, ImpyAndroid ImpyAndroid3: I was thinking today on the character tropes in MLP then I realised...Arthur is a pretty damn advanced show. |
| 12:22.40 | Wormy_away | Yeah, every episode was a moral lesson. |
| 12:25.35 | Monet | It also dealt with things that other shows weren't so keen on talking about like dyslexia and autism, asthma, living with an absent father |
| 12:26.28 | Imperios | Arthur as in that show about ISIS? |
| 12:26.31 | Imperios | The spy organisation |
| 12:26.41 | Wormy_away | Yes, it's a very good show for kids |
| 12:26.55 | Wormy_away | No not that |
| 12:27.10 | Wormy_away | http://www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/tvbanners/184303/p184303_b_v8_ad.jpg |
| 12:27.10 | Monet | Imperios: You're thinking of Archer |
| 12:27.56 | Wormy_away | Arthur was a badass |
| 12:28.15 | Wormy_away | Imperios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5PkGVaqWeY |
| 12:29.47 | Wormy_away | No-one liked DW |
| 12:30.06 | Monet | Let's see there was also Francine and her family - who if I recall weren't obnoxiously Jewish like you see everywhere else. |
| 12:30.40 | Monet | Like they weren't constantly showing Jewish traits. |
| 12:33.14 | Monet | Unlike say...these two http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/theamericandad/images/7/73/1a09044ff84c0e9c0afdf60ae105ed51.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110121013741 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fd/Howard-wolowitz-the-big-bang-theory-16865313-930-1246.jpg |
| 12:34.34 | Monet | You also had Mr. Ratburn, Arthur's teacher who - rarely for a male teacher in media - had quite a healthy life outside school. |
| 12:36.21 | Wormy_away | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/southparkfanon/images/e/e8/SPGerald.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20111104070633 |
| 12:36.46 | Monet | Yes. |
| 12:38.20 | Monet | Francine's Jewish heritage rarely showed up unless it was an important part of the plot (like how her family celebrated Hanukah instead of Christmas, or attending her cousin's bar-mitzvah). |
| 12:40.21 | Liquid_Ink | Also there was Arthur's Muslim Turkish penpal, who discussed Halal food when Francine brought up Kosher |
| 12:42.25 | Monet | Ah yes. |
| 12:45.13 | Monet | What about the Reeds' Ecuadorian neighbours? |
| 12:46.44 | Liquid_Ink | I never saw them |
| 12:48.21 | Monet | I think there was only one episode back when I watched the show. |
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| 12:49.11 | Monet | I recall in the episode DW got jealous of the Molinas' young daughter, who could beat DW at any game. |
| 12:50.19 | Liquid_Ink | I'm off to bed now. Goodnight! |
| 12:56.08 | Wormy_away | Think my favourite character was Buster |
| 12:56.30 | Wormy_away | what a weirdo he was |
| 12:56.57 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:58.22 | Wormy_away | I was a bizzare kid, with some of his oddities |
| 13:08.50 | Wormy_away | wtf http://arthur.wikia.com/wiki/Uncle_Wormy |
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| 13:09.13 | Monet | Afternoon. |
| 13:09.30 | Wormy_away | hello |
| 13:10.36 | OluapPlayer | hi |
| 13:10.44 | Monet | Wormy_Away: Don't worry, That's the Tibbles for you |
| 13:17.51 | Technobliterator | hihi |
| 13:18.25 | Wormy_away | moisterise me http://imgur.com/gallery/tISPH |
| 13:18.45 | Technobliterator | Ugh, Chantal is back? |
| 13:18.53 | OluapPlayer | Was |
| 13:18.56 | Technobliterator | Why won't this guy get over himself already |
| 13:18.57 | OluapPlayer | I already banned him |
| 13:18.58 | Technobliterator | nice |
| 13:19.12 | Technobliterator | hopefully he won't come back as another IP |
| 13:19.14 | OluapPlayer | Epitome of no-lifer |
| 13:20.06 | Technobliterator | Indeed |
| 13:22.11 | Wormy_away | I'm thinking about deleting his pages |
| 13:22.29 | Technobliterator | I'd say do it |
| 13:22.44 | Wormy_away | He is perma-blocked, but is using any opportunity he can to edit his pages |
| 13:22.45 | Technobliterator | He admitted to purposefully clogging the Special:WantedImages to make us unban him |
| 13:22.56 | Technobliterator | I'll do it |
| 13:23.19 | OluapPlayer | I was considering it but if you wanna, go ahead |
| 13:25.45 | NeonPanda | so, tonight while playing various games, we discovered something very interesting about my friend Spartan- guy can't shoot at close range for shit, we normally either give him a shotgun or machinegun so aiming isn't necessary |
| 13:26.05 | NeonPanda | today he decides to pick up an antimateriel rifle and shoot someone out of a helicopter at just under a kilometre away |
| 13:26.25 | Wormy_away | Hm, I was about to delete his older fiction but its linked with Ecoraptor's pages. So I might need to check with her. Doesn't look like anything significant though |
| 13:26.36 | NeonPanda | turns out that guy's amazing at trajectories |
| 13:26.57 | Technobliterator | Well, he wasn't banned when he made his older fiction, so that can stay |
| 13:27.14 | Technobliterator | I don't think we have a rule that banned users have their fiction deleted |
| 13:28.01 | Wormy_away | No, but I'm thinking it might dent his attempts to return and edit pages at every opportunity |
| 13:28.07 | Wormy_away | Maybe lock them? |
| 13:28.14 | Technobliterator | oh yeah that's fair |
| 13:28.27 | Technobliterator | but only lock them at autoprotected |
| 13:28.33 | Technobliterator | to stop him from editing as an IP |
| 13:28.34 | Wormy_away | Alright |
| 13:28.44 | Technobliterator | just in case normal users go there to fix links and stuff |
| 13:30.07 | Monet | NeonPanda: So the guy's a born sniper? |
| 13:30.29 | NeonPanda | apparently, but this is like the first time he's been accurate ever |
| 13:31.58 | Monet | Sounds like he's more used to shooting carefully. |
| 13:32.23 | NeonPanda | oh no, like he tries to be accurate but it just doesn't happen |
| 13:32.59 | Monet | Let him keep the AM rifle. See if it's not just a one-off. |
| 13:33.06 | NeonPanda | that's the plan basically |
| 13:33.46 | NeonPanda | btw for context, we're playing what basically amounts to DayZ but zombies are an actual threat |
| 13:34.10 | Wormy_away | I have a feeling this might be another alt of Chantal http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Morphy10 |
| 13:34.57 | Wormy_away | http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Fiction%3AOlaian_Empire&diff=686679&oldid=686664 |
| 13:35.21 | NeonPanda | at the moment we're moving around in a purple armoured limo (don't ask, random generation), we had to go quiet when a helicopter went overhead and Spartan just takes him down |
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| 13:36.31 | NeonPanda | right now I'm entrusted with two things: driving, and explosives |
| 13:37.01 | NeonPanda | we then have two general murder-everything-in-sight-ers rounding out the team |
| 13:37.27 | Monet | Fair enough |
| 13:37.59 | Monet | On jobs in GTA I'm a pretty good pilot. |
| 13:38.17 | Ghelaway | Wormy_away: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Olaian_Empire?action=history Evidently I thought there was a legitimate reason for Chantal's edits, and sockpuppetry hardly counts as legitimate. |
| 13:38.44 | Monet | Probably not surprising how many people in GTA can't fly for shit. |
| 13:39.22 | NeonPanda | we live in the attic of a run down church, just on the outskirts of one of the cities |
| 13:40.06 | NeonPanda | pretty shit really given that one of the groups we work with basically lives in a drug lord's castle |
| 13:40.28 | Ghelaway | Wormy_away: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Morphy10 - looks like Chantal decided to edit the page, but only gained permission retroactively. In hindsight one could suppose that's all part of the deception, but I don't currently see any actual evidence for that. |
| 13:41.27 | Wormy_away | Looks like there's a good time gap between each comment, so that indicates its less likely to be fakery |
| 13:41.40 | Monet | NeonPanda: A church is still a fairly decent headquarters |
| 13:41.59 | NeonPanda | yeah, it's nice and defensible and within good striking distance |
| 13:42.20 | NeonPanda | I'd rather live in a walled in house of course, one that doesn't have holes |
| 13:42.31 | Monet | Having Spartan in the steeple could keep people away. |
| 13:43.15 | NeonPanda | that and we mined the place heavily |
| 13:43.17 | NeonPanda | as in the explosive kind |
| 13:44.24 | NeonPanda | it's actually pretty funny how things have turned out, there's basically two or three small groups of people who've just mutually agreed not to mess with each other, and everyone else is kill on sight |
| 13:46.07 | Monet | Funny how much the zombie apocalypse becomes survival of the fittest. |
| 13:46.43 | NeonPanda | well that's kinda the point, I just find it funny about how we've got a cease-fire going on when normally it's just everyone murders everyone |
| 13:47.17 | Wormy_away | Ghelaway: I'm suspicious because Chantal added an aweful lot of content, thats more than aesthetically designing the page |
| 13:48.10 | Ghelaway | Wormy_away: Found a discussion on http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Chantal71 |
| 13:48.26 | Ghelaway | Quote from me: "It wasn't a major edit on Chantal's part; it was copied almost directly over from the page that Morphy10 wrote in the main namespace (that I have since deleted). Most of the changes were in the form of layout improvements (e.g. addition of headers)." |
| 13:49.14 | Wormy_away | Ah, I see |
| 13:49.16 | NeonPanda | internet be derping so I'ma go pass out |
| 13:55.36 | Wormy_away | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:57.00 | Wormy_away | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:57.59 | OluapPlayer | I'm gonna wait until the IRC has more people in it but I've things to say to you all |
| 13:59.22 | Wormy_ | We normally spike in the next few hours |
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| 14:05.44 | Monet | Hello |
| 14:11.02 | Monet | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn9e-eVWEAACNEA.jpg:large some fun names |
| 14:18.20 | Technobliterator | bbl gym |
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| 14:27.35 | Monet | hello |
| 14:54.10 | Wormy_ | Monet: Riders asre falling all over the place right now http://www.itv.com/hub/itv4 |
| 14:57.50 | Monet | Reading the new Civil War comic arc right now |
| 14:58.11 | Monet | And holy shit. |
| 14:58.16 | Monet | are things dire |
| 14:58.54 | Wormy_ | Things are dire in both worlds |
| 14:59.35 | Monet | Yeah. |
| 14:59.59 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:00.48 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:21.40 | Monet | Hi |
| 15:47.19 | Wormy_ | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn-rinbXYAIMQuO.jpg |
| 15:49.04 | Wormy_ | Just one of the falls today https://twitter.com/LeTour/status/756497022065049601 |
| 15:49.51 | Wormy_ | https://twitter.com/LeTour/status/756507938642993154 |
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| 15:57.12 | Jepardi | Hi |
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| 16:00.14 | Imperios | Welcome back |
| 16:00.15 | Imperios | :"P |
| 16:00.24 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn9e-eVWEAACNEA.jpg:large |
| 16:00.43 | OluapPlayer | I've been here for the last 3 hours |
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| 16:02.23 | OluapPlayer | But thank you. You're the only person who had the decency of saying that |
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| 16:03.17 | Monet | Hello |
| 16:03.49 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
| 16:05.02 | Imperios | Yw |
| 16:05.09 | Imperios | Yoy're welcome even |
| 16:05.32 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 16:13.26 | Technobliterator | ok back |
| 16:13.57 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 16:14.47 | Wormy_ | OluapPlayer: I'm actually a little bit nervous about your announcement, it case it implies something negative |
| 16:15.24 | OluapPlayer | Three users driven away from the IRC for nearly a week |
| 16:15.30 | OluapPlayer | Of course it's negative |
| 16:15.55 | Wormy_ | Thats what I mean, I want to say something about it in support but I haven't really got anything/ |
| 16:16.11 | Wormy_ | But I'm sorry about whatever it is |
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| 16:16.14 | Technobliterator | I feel bad that I kind of missed the cause of it because I was away on a brief holiday |
| 16:16.52 | Wormy_ | Its only really struck me in the last couple of days something has been off |
| 16:17.22 | OluapPlayer | In fact, part of the reason I've been gone is this apathy for whether I'm here or not |
| 16:18.36 | Imperios | Ditto, was away |
| 16:18.50 | Wormy_ | Well people have certainly noticed you were gone. |
| 16:19.33 | OluapPlayer | After Xho pointed it out yesterday, sure |
| 16:20.11 | Technobliterator | I noticed you were gone |
| 16:20.18 | Technobliterator | which is why I poked you on Steam :o |
| 16:20.31 | DrodoEmpire | I noticed how quiet it was, Oluap, regardless of anything being pointed out. :p Its quiet in a large part because you and the others weren't here |
| 16:20.54 | Wormy_ | I think, what happens IRC is that we tend to compartmentalise like we do on the wiki. I always assumed you, Xho, Hachi, Imp and Techno were active in talking to each other. But I didn't know you felt this isolated |
| 16:20.54 | DrodoEmpire | So please don't think we don't care |
| 16:21.12 | OluapPlayer | I think there's enough people here for me to start talking on what is really bothering me |
| 16:21.24 | OluapPlayer | Keeping silent is not really helping me |
| 16:22.10 | Monet | Making some tea, brb. |
| 16:22.37 | Technobliterator | If you want, someone can post it as a thread on the wiki afterward |
| 16:23.21 | OluapPlayer | Just waiting for Cyrannian to be here since it concerns him too |
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| 16:24.45 | Wormy_ | On the bell |
| 16:24.47 | Wormy_ | Hi |
| 16:24.49 | Cyrannian | Hello everyone |
| 16:24.54 | OluapPlayer | Yes I invited him |
| 16:24.59 | Technobliterator | hihi |
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| 16:25.10 | OluapPlayer | I wanted Hachi too but he's got real life plants to attend to |
| 16:25.10 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 16:25.18 | Xho | well you got me instead boyo |
| 16:25.25 | Technobliterator | sup xho |
| 16:25.26 | OluapPlayer | Good I wanted you here |
| 16:25.28 | Monet | Hi Xho |
| 16:25.31 | Xho | Oh cool |
| 16:25.32 | Xho | Hi |
| 16:25.45 | Wormy_ | imagines Hachiman franticly watering plants in the summer sun |
| 16:26.28 | Technobliterator | :V |
| 16:27.04 | OluapPlayer | I've read the logs, and you touched only one part of the reason I've been away. The biggest reason me, Hachi and Cyrannian have been out of the IRC is because we feel this community doesn't really appreciate our contributions |
| 16:27.22 | OluapPlayer | For quite a long time our fiction has been either ignored or treated with snark by the majority of people here |
| 16:27.48 | OluapPlayer | and I don't believe it's fair for me to have spent 8 years here to be ignored |
| 16:28.53 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not sure where you got this idea- personally I like your fiction |
| 16:28.53 | Technobliterator | I will confess to not being very responsive |
| 16:29.03 | Wormy_ | Its a significant problem in the fiction universe that I have faced as well. For the collab universe to hold together we should be consciously trying out one another's fiction styles. |
| 16:29.04 | OluapPlayer | Making fiction that should be relevant to the whole and not getting any recognition for it is a waste of my time and effort |
| 16:29.16 | DrodoEmpire | Though, yeah, I'm guilty of not always being responsive |
| 16:29.19 | OluapPlayer | As is a waste of Hachi's and Cyrannian's time |
| 16:29.23 | Technobliterator | I don't deliberately ignore you guys - I do try to read everything |
| 16:29.55 | Wormy_ | I've been terribly unresponsive but thats largely because of real life and now during the Summer I feel a bit tired quite frankly |
| 16:30.33 | Wormy_ | I am behind on reading major trends of fiction but I have singled out you, Hachi or anyone-else |
| 16:30.40 | OluapPlayer | Sure I don't read EVERY fiction written but at least I try to say updated with what is happening through the whole setting |
| 16:30.41 | Monet | We've all been getting busier. It's becoming harder to follow everything like we used to. |
| 16:30.42 | Technobliterator | yeah, if I don't respond, it's because I'm busy, not because I'm ignoring anyone |
| 16:30.47 | Wormy_ | *I HAVENT sorry |
| 16:30.49 | Imperios | Oh hi Cyr |
| 16:31.04 | DrodoEmpire | Oluap: Fair enough, we could all be making more of an effort |
| 16:31.07 | Imperios | We actually talked with Hachi about that yesterday |
| 16:31.08 | OluapPlayer | But I feel some users here are holed up and only care for what happens in their part of the universe |
| 16:31.09 | Technobliterator | you three are some of the users whose fiction I actually read the most |
| 16:31.11 | Cyrannian | It's more of an annoyance for me really, when you work on a creation or a fiction for quite a long time and it doesn't get a response. Though that's not really exclusive to one or two users, we've all probably experienced that at some point or another |
| 16:31.20 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 16:31.27 | Xho | I do physically thrust it down user's throats now |
| 16:31.33 | DrodoEmpire | Its a problem that affects the community |
| 16:31.58 | OluapPlayer | Sure but I've been feeling like this for well over a year |
| 16:32.03 | OluapPlayer | I can only endure it so much |
| 16:32.25 | Monet | It's a question I've long asked myself: Do I write because I enjoy it or because I like seeing people read it? |
| 16:32.27 | OluapPlayer | I don't write fictions for myself to read, I write it for you all to read |
| 16:32.31 | Wormy_ | This sort of thing can hurt some users more than others, and that something that should be respected. |
| 16:32.45 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 16:32.55 | Imperios | Alright, guys, I've actually been trying to answer this question for quite some time yesterday and I will give my personal response to OP and Cyr, as well as to everyone else |
| 16:32.59 | Imperios | Are you willing to hear me out? |
| 16:33.07 | Monet | Yes |
| 16:33.16 | Imperios | First, the wiki itself is old, we're old |
| 16:33.35 | *** join/#sporewiki Quark8 (49c685a7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.198.133.167) |
| 16:33.36 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 16:33.46 | Imperios | I remember when I was fucking editing the Radeon creature page in the school toilet as a tween |
| 16:34.06 | Imperios | And it is obvious that we can no longer be active as we were before, the apex of the wiki has already passed |
| 16:34.22 | Imperios | The activity mostly comes from the new guys - e.g. Baguette, Sargonknight, etc |
| 16:34.31 | Imperios | AND YES YOU WILL FOREVER BE NEW GUYS TO ME |
| 16:34.34 | OluapPlayer | No one is busy at all times. Even when employed I was active every day |
| 16:34.34 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 16:34.43 | OluapPlayer | It depends entirely on your commitment |
| 16:34.47 | Imperios | Yeah we aren't busy at all times |
| 16:34.54 | Monet | OluapPLayer: Not all of us can afford to communicate and write fiction in the middle of the working day. |
| 16:34.57 | Imperios | But obviously we aren't that active |
| 16:34.58 | Imperios | Second |
| 16:35.06 | OluapPlayer | Neither was I |
| 16:35.09 | OluapPlayer | Yet I was active |
| 16:35.15 | DrodoEmpire | OluapPlayer: If it means anything, I *am* going to start doing more stuff in Borealis, which'll mean I'll need to read your stuff more |
| 16:35.18 | DrodoEmpire | So there's that |
| 16:35.20 | Imperios | Aight |
| 16:35.21 | Monet | And sometimes we work so long or hard we'd rather just get home, sit down and defuse. |
| 16:35.23 | Imperios | Alright GUYS |
| 16:35.24 | Imperios | PLEASE |
| 16:35.25 | Imperios | LISTEN |
| 16:35.31 | DrodoEmpire | Just go Imperios |
| 16:35.36 | DrodoEmpire | What is it? |
| 16:36.01 | Wormy_ | I've lost my commitment to fiction largely this year. I don't even want to complete the growing list of fiction anymore |
| 16:36.18 | Imperios | Second, none of us old guys nowadays receive that much attention |
| 16:36.19 | Cyrannian | Well you say that Imp, but in fairness I've made nearly 150 edits this month so far, most of them were fiction-related |
| 16:36.30 | Imperios | Of course |
| 16:36.31 | Technobliterator | I was in the same boat as Wormy until, like, very recently |
| 16:36.33 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah and Charles also works |
| 16:36.39 | Technobliterator | when I started just doing fiction in short bursts |
| 16:36.39 | Imperios | But many people lost interest |
| 16:36.46 | DrodoEmpire | So I mean, these're holes in your theory |
| 16:36.54 | Imperios | Guys hear me out |
| 16:36.58 | Imperios | Anyway |
| 16:37.04 | Technobliterator | We're hearing you out, but |
| 16:37.10 | Technobliterator | you're massively over simplifying the problem |
| 16:37.13 | Technobliterator | and you are projecting quite a bit |
| 16:37.14 | Technobliterator | : | |
| 16:37.22 | Imperios | The essence of the model is simplification |
| 16:37.27 | OluapPlayer | Just let him finish so he can stop asking us to let him finish |
| 16:37.27 | Imperios | Any model |
| 16:37.54 | Wormy_ | Well it needs to be simple in the sense of functional |
| 16:38.07 | Imperios | So in my opinion, we only really have two choices at this point; we either stay within the old community which is, unfortunately, no longer so active, or try to focus more on the new guys, which will require some effort from us - just look at Mon |
| 16:38.12 | Imperios | As for the old guys |
| 16:38.13 | Wormy_ | no easy to vary or untestable (or unproveable) assumptions |
| 16:38.14 | Imperios | Including myself |
| 16:38.17 | Imperios | ESPECIALLY myself |
| 16:38.27 | Imperios | We really should try to find some time to do stuff |
| 16:38.28 | Technobliterator | Yeah, you're projecting quite a bit right there |
| 16:38.37 | Imperios | Well alrighty then |
| 16:38.37 | Technobliterator | There are easily more than just two options |
| 16:38.47 | OluapPlayer | I don't get your point |
| 16:38.49 | Technobliterator | I agree with you partly |
| 16:38.50 | DrodoEmpire | Its not hard |
| 16:39.01 | OluapPlayer | There should be only one community where everyone does things and gets recognized for it |
| 16:39.10 | Cyrannian | aye |
| 16:39.17 | DrodoEmpire | Just- look, the way I see it a lot of people read what is only relevant to them, and that worked when the community was small |
| 16:39.20 | Monet | Then amybe old and new need ot interact with each other more. |
| 16:39.25 | Technobliterator | I think Imp is projecting when he says "well I'm an old user and I'm less active so I guess all the old users are less active" |
| 16:39.29 | DrodoEmpire | Its fairly big now and we've been experiencing growing paains from that |
| 16:39.33 | DrodoEmpire | *pains |
| 16:39.35 | OluapPlayer | "hey there's a major war happening borealis right now, i have ties to that galaxy so I should probably reply to the UDB" |
| 16:39.35 | Imperios | Yeah true that |
| 16:39.37 | Imperios | BUT |
| 16:39.38 | OluapPlayer | This is what I mean |
| 16:39.51 | Technobliterator | But it is demonstrably true that some users are less active, but that's not the same as being inactive |
| 16:40.02 | Technobliterator | Like, Oluap and Cyr are still probably the biggest editors |
| 16:40.07 | Wormy_ | I agree with Imp on that we should all be trying out different fiction styles (and reading fiction outside one's pond) together, but its got to involve everyone in the community, not just one half/ |
| 16:40.11 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: IMO, I think part of your problem comes from the fact that you focus mostly on our small band, which, even if I am projecting (and I am projecting), is nowhere near as active as it was before |
| 16:40.19 | Imperios | I think it'd be cooler if we expanded |
| 16:40.21 | Imperios | All of us |
| 16:40.24 | DrodoEmpire | What I think is that we need adventure-style people to really include newer users and really advertise themselves |
| 16:40.31 | OluapPlayer | Borealis isn't 'our small band' |
| 16:40.38 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: That's the line I've been towing for a loong time |
| 16:40.43 | DrodoEmpire | And I'm doing now, actually |
| 16:40.44 | OluapPlayer | Easily over half of the active userbase has ties to Borealis |
| 16:40.46 | DrodoEmpire | So yes I agree |
| 16:40.52 | OluapPlayer | Either from colonies or political relations |
| 16:40.57 | Imperios | It's like Jo and Xho and Hachi mostly |
| 16:40.58 | Wormy_ | adventure-style people should also be open to trying out real politik fiction |
| 16:41.02 | Imperios | Like people who really invest into it |
| 16:41.08 | DrodoEmpire | Eh, they have to be fair Wormy |
| 16:41.09 | Cyrannian | I don't see it as new and old people not interacting. For me at least it was fiction in general being overshadowed on IRC by political discussions. (and of course the war in Borealis being largely ignored) Though of course we can't prevent such conversations. |
| 16:41.10 | Imperios | Like remember AW |
| 16:41.14 | Imperios | It was like 3 people |
| 16:41.16 | DrodoEmpire | They have participation in stuff like UGA |
| 16:41.22 | Xho | Cyrannian: HERETICS |
| 16:41.37 | Monet | Imperios' point is that stories in Borealis boil down to the adventures of the PCA against the great threat, while everyone else either watches or tags along. |
| 16:41.41 | DrodoEmpire | Cyrannian: I don't really like RL politics on the chat either |
| 16:41.43 | Technobliterator | Well, I will say that I felt like most of my fiction was ignored before Da Reckoning. Da Reckoning got people interested because it involved a lot of people. I don't imagine anyone would've cared about the Ottzello Revolution if it weren't for that |
| 16:41.46 | DrodoEmpire | It divides people |
| 16:42.03 | Imperios | Yeah we're so enclosed now |
| 16:42.06 | Imperios | GUYS ACTUALLY |
| 16:42.07 | Imperios | HOW ABOUT |
| 16:42.09 | Imperios | WE FUCKING RP RIGHT NOW |
| 16:42.11 | Imperios | DO SOMETHING |
| 16:42.18 | DrodoEmpire | What is that thing? |
| 16:42.20 | Wormy_ | UNCHARTED EXPANSE |
| 16:42.21 | OluapPlayer | And yes, one of my problems is the fact we went from "fiction about spore" to "real life politics and nationalism, rarely fiction about spore" |
| 16:42.33 | Technobliterator | yeah, I stopped getting involved in RL politics once I stopped having family problems and stopped venting about stuff |
| 16:42.34 | Imperios | ^ BLAME THE BAGUETTE |
| 16:42.36 | Imperios | THE BAGUETTE IS TO BLAME |
| 16:42.41 | Xho | Well we had that Endless Space fiction with things |
| 16:42.48 | Xho | That died a slow icy death |
| 16:42.56 | Imperios | Seriously though |
| 16:43.18 | Imperios | alright guys I haven't slept at all last night so I'm not being rational |
| 16:43.23 | Imperios | Mostly just spouting nonesense |
| 16:43.28 | Technobliterator | :V |
| 16:43.33 | Technobliterator | We appreciate you trying to help, though |
| 16:43.47 | OluapPlayer | Monet: Andromeda's stories boil down to the PAE doings things to itself and sometimes terrorists, I don't see your point |
| 16:43.50 | DrodoEmpire | Really I think I'm just gonna do my part. :p Tech, would ou want to discuss our fiction? |
| 16:44.00 | Technobliterator | Sure :o |
| 16:44.03 | DrodoEmpire | kk |
| 16:44.06 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Yes and we're fucking three people |
| 16:44.15 | Imperios | Nobody pays attention to us hur |
| 16:44.19 | Technobliterator | You're fucking three people? |
| 16:44.23 | Technobliterator | At once? |
| 16:44.26 | OluapPlayer | EVERYONE pays attention to you |
| 16:44.31 | Imperios | I wish *-* |
| 16:44.40 | Technobliterator | is shot |
| 16:44.45 | OluapPlayer | Andromeda became the center of the universe after the whole schism thing |
| 16:45.01 | Imperios | But look at our stories |
| 16:45.08 | Imperios | Mon tries to do the house thing, nobody reacts |
| 16:45.12 | Imperios | Most people do not |
| 16:45.17 | Monet | OluapPlayer: When events happen in Borealis, what tends to happen is you, Hachi, Techno and Xho plan a story and anyone who joins outside that group is basically along for the ride. |
| 16:45.27 | Wormy_ | Because I enjoy writing sporadically with just about anyone here, I'm thinking of just making a massive overview of my incomplete fiction. And then I can made short sporadic fictions and hopefully then I can interact with more users with small contributions |
| 16:45.31 | Xho | Actually I'm mostly along for the ride as well |
| 16:45.38 | Xho | I have little planning in Borealis |
| 16:45.49 | OluapPlayer | And what is the problem with that? |
| 16:45.51 | Technobliterator | Uh, I do not think that people pointing fingers at one another is helping, guys : | |
| 16:45.52 | Xho | Not that it's a bad thing |
| 16:45.55 | Xho | c |
| 16:45.58 | OluapPlayer | People don't get more heavily involved because they don't want to |
| 16:46.14 | Xho | Most of my ideas are too destructive to come to fruition :v |
| 16:46.15 | Monet | Sometimes because they don't feel like they can |
| 16:46.18 | Xho | the life of xho |
| 16:46.20 | Xho | tlox |
| 16:46.23 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: What's the problem with what? |
| 16:46.37 | OluapPlayer | Tagging along someone else's story |
| 16:46.49 | Wormy_ | I also think it got to work two ways |
| 16:46.53 | OluapPlayer | if I invite people to fiction I expect them to contribute to it |
| 16:47.00 | OluapPlayer | I don't want token participations |
| 16:47.04 | Imperios | People do not feel important because their actions do not affect the plot |
| 16:47.08 | Imperios | Remember the whole shirtless thing |
| 16:47.17 | Imperios | I think Mon's referring to that |
| 16:47.23 | Monet | I am. |
| 16:47.33 | OluapPlayer | Shirtless |
| 16:47.34 | Monet | Well, something like that. |
| 16:47.38 | Technobliterator | Annihilation? |
| 16:47.50 | OluapPlayer | You mean the fiction with Venoriel's daughter? |
| 16:48.10 | Xho | I got nothing wrong with supporting fiction mainly because the plot isn't always known to me |
| 16:48.12 | OluapPlayer | It's been so long I don't recall |
| 16:48.31 | OluapPlayer | And as an example, in that fiction I was there purely to tag along |
| 16:48.32 | Technobliterator | I'm cool with it as well |
| 16:48.35 | Imperios | The Rades plot |
| 16:48.37 | OluapPlayer | And I didn't mind since I was okay with it |
| 16:48.39 | Cyrannian | Tagging along in someone is a pretty fundamental aspect of SporeWiki's fiction, I don't think it makes it any less enjoyable. If you show initiative and participate heavily, usually you are granted a more significant role in the future of the story |
| 16:48.40 | Imperios | With Thessina |
| 16:48.42 | Imperios | Remember? |
| 16:48.52 | Imperios | Archeology |
| 16:48.53 | Technobliterator | ^ to Cyr's comment |
| 16:48.54 | Imperios | Praestol |
| 16:48.57 | OluapPlayer | I just gave my two cents on it |
| 16:48.59 | Imperios | Isio'Nar cultists |
| 16:49.03 | OluapPlayer | Read above |
| 16:49.40 | Charles_Bot | Uh |
| 16:49.42 | OluapPlayer | And yes, ditto to what Cyrannian said |
| 16:49.46 | Xho | Fair enough |
| 16:49.47 | Charles_Bot | I just noticed this |
| 16:50.04 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: But you did mind |
| 16:50.05 | Xho | My ideas generally aren't user friendly which is why I don't come up with ideas with other users nowadays |
| 16:50.13 | Imperios | You left eventually because you did not like just tagging along |
| 16:50.24 | Technobliterator | I have a couple of ideas how to fix this problem, which I'm willing to share with people |
| 16:50.27 | Charles_Bot | Scrolled through a lot, is there anything I should specifically respond to? |
| 16:50.30 | OluapPlayer | I left because you had someone else join the story without consulting me first |
| 16:50.34 | Xho | It's usually worldbuild -> make plot in world -> take part in other things |
| 16:50.41 | OluapPlayer | It was something just between us |
| 16:50.56 | Technobliterator | not really, Charles |
| 16:51.07 | Technobliterator | The tl;dr is users don't like feeling ignored, basically |
| 16:51.25 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 16:51.30 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: No it was just me and Mon and OP |
| 16:51.34 | Imperios | And you |
| 16:51.44 | OluapPlayer | It was me and you |
| 16:51.45 | Charles_Bot | Right, I've been there |
| 16:51.54 | OluapPlayer | Then Monet came in out of nowhere and I had no word onj it |
| 16:51.57 | OluapPlayer | on* |
| 16:52.01 | Wormy_ | Cyrannian: Problem is though, it might not seem like that from the outside, and that is something you guys need to consider (I say "you guys" because I don't feel I have this problem as I interact with anyone) |
| 16:52.11 | Charles_Bot | Though last time I raised that concern, the IRC kind of told me to grow up and get over it? |
| 16:52.29 | DrodoEmpire | It might be that its gotten worse since then |
| 16:52.39 | DrodoEmpire | And that fiction discussions been pushed out |
| 16:52.40 | Imperios | Well see that's the problem of tagging along |
| 16:52.47 | Imperios | People do not feel like they participate that much |
| 16:52.52 | Technobliterator | yeah, Drodo summed it up |
| 16:53.20 | DrodoEmpire | Frankly, I miss when we discussed fiction a lot. It was fun |
| 16:53.37 | DrodoEmpire | (WHich is the least controversial statement ever said here but its true) |
| 16:53.39 | Cyrannian | Wormy_: I understand how people may seem that way, I was speaking to my own experience with fictions like the Second Galactic War, where I wasn't involved at first, only to help shape it as the fiction progressed |
| 16:54.13 | Charles_Bot | Yeah, me too, and responded to each others' fictions dynamically and in real time both in universe and out |
| 16:54.39 | Charles_Bot | That made the whole thing feel alive and integrated |
| 16:54.47 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... |
| 16:54.58 | Wormy_ | Imperios: so that needs to change and users in both camps need to push out more, and that's why I think this has to happen in both ways, that adventure-style people try (maybe with only small contribution realpolitik, and then realpolitik users try adventure themed fiction, of course it only goes as far as the user's comitment) |
| 16:55.09 | Technobliterator | Well, I have two ideas. The first is that we make a sidechannel for offtopic/political stuff but with this community, and we link it to this channel. We can direct people there when it gets to a certain point. |
| 16:55.19 | Charles_Bot | And gave us jumping-off points and ideas for participation |
| 16:55.29 | DrodoEmpire | As a sorta pressure valve that could be good |
| 16:55.31 | Charles_Bot | I'm not sure we need a side-channel? |
| 16:55.45 | DrodoEmpire | Nah things can get heated, so it might be good as a temporary-use vent |
| 16:56.09 | Monet | I think as a pressure valve it's a good idea. |
| 16:56.21 | Technobliterator | We have a few sidechannels already |
| 16:56.22 | Charles_Bot | I tend to tune out when Oluap and the others discuss whatever they tend to talk about, or when Wormy discusses sports, and tune right back in when something interesting to me is said |
| 16:56.23 | Wormy_ | A side-channel might be needed but not mandatory for off-topic discussion on politics |
| 16:56.24 | Imperios | A side channel when discussions get too large |
| 16:56.29 | Imperios | That is perfect |
| 16:56.37 | Imperios | I am all for it |
| 16:56.40 | Monet | To move *all* offtopic/politic talk to a side-channel might hurt this channel's activity. |
| 16:56.46 | Charles_Bot | But I wouldn't tell Oluap or Wormy to go elsewhere to discuss what interests them |
| 16:56.57 | DrodoEmpire | We more mean heated RL political stuff |
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| 16:56.59 | OluapPlayer | Fucking internet |
| 16:57.01 | DrodoEmpire | Not fiction stuff |
| 16:57.02 | OluapPlayer | What did I miss? |
| 16:57.10 | Technobliterator | <Technobliterator> Well, I have two ideas. The first is that we make a sidechannel for offtopic/political stuff but with this community, and we link it to this channel. We can direct people there when it gets to a certain point. |
| 16:57.29 | Wormy_ | Same but we could all keep in mind that when things get heated or take over the chat we could choose to take the discussion elsewhere |
| 16:58.17 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway |
| 16:58.18 | Wormy_ | I usually discuss hard SF, science and philosophy related topics on #cyrannus with Random or Ghel these days since it bores many people. |
| 16:58.27 | Monet | Sometimes fiction discussion takes inspiration from reality. |
| 16:58.27 | DrodoEmpire | I think the big thing is returning fiction-related discussion here |
| 16:58.50 | DrodoEmpire | In that spirit, we should kick anyone who doesn't comment on a link :') |
| 16:59.04 | Charles_Bot | >.< |
| 16:59.15 | DrodoEmpire | But yeah my point stands |
| 16:59.42 | Technobliterator | The reason why I say that we could create a sidechannel is for discussions that some people are actively put off by. We could just as easily make a sidechannel to circlejerk about gamergate/gaming feminism :p |
| 16:59.46 | Charles_Bot | one of the reasons I stopped looking at other people's fictions way, way back when was due to people saying that they were purposefully ignoring what I was writing and saying it didn't exist |
| 16:59.57 | Cyrannian | I have mixed views about a side channel. I do think SporeWiki's main IRC should be more heavily geared toward topics actually related to the wiki, but I don't like the idea of telling people to go somewhere else if a conversation veers in another direction. |
| 17:00.05 | Wormy_ | #circlejerkventchannel |
| 17:00.08 | Technobliterator | ^ |
| 17:00.08 | Technobliterator | :p |
| 17:00.15 | Technobliterator | Yeah, I think that's fair |
| 17:00.26 | DrodoEmpire | Charles_Bot: I think that bad blood's gone |
| 17:00.33 | Technobliterator | But it may end up as a useful idea |
| 17:00.44 | Charles_Bot | Right, but the compartmentalization isn't |
| 17:00.51 | Technobliterator | If the main channel's activity decreases a little bit, then there's more fiction visibility |
| 17:00.52 | DrodoEmpire | So I figure it might be best that we just bury whatever hatchet there is, and take interest |
| 17:00.56 | Charles_Bot | So that might be something to address |
| 17:01.14 | Technobliterator | Okay, my second idea |
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| 17:01.22 | OluapPlayer_ | Jesus fuck off |
| 17:01.22 | Technobliterator | and I'll be quick because I need to eat soon |
| 17:01.30 | Technobliterator | my second idea is |
| 17:01.30 | OluapPlayer_ | Someone please get me a pastie of the last 10 minutes |
| 17:01.35 | DrodoEmpire | Ye[ |
| 17:01.37 | Xho | OluapPlayer_: wwjd fuck off apparently |
| 17:02.56 | Monet | I'm going to say it, we've had an issue before where someone felt their fiction was undervalued, mocked or ignored: Irskaad. I remember he got considerably more aggressive when the DI started smearing itself everywhere but I think a similar situation exists now. There needs to be more interaction between the different parts of the fictionverse. |
| 17:02.56 | Technobliterator | We have a group day in a month/a few weeks dedicated to reading/discussing some of the fictions going on. It could be around the same time as the FA voting. It'd be a chance for people to showcase new fictions and have everyone take a look at it. Whether on IRC or on a thread, just to create visibility and discussion about it. |
| 17:03.32 | OluapPlayer_ | That's an interesting idea |
| 17:03.32 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm |
| 17:03.35 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I like it |
| 17:03.37 | Imperios | WOW |
| 17:03.40 | Imperios | That's actually brilliant |
| 17:03.43 | DrodoEmpire | Heyy |
| 17:03.44 | Technobliterator | This day we'd basically all agree to focus on checking out other people's stuff as opposed to writing our own stuff |
| 17:03.46 | DrodoEmpire | That's pretty good |
| 17:03.54 | Imperios | Right what day tho |
| 17:03.57 | Technobliterator | I would more than happily lead this project |
| 17:03.59 | Imperios | Saturday? |
| 17:04.01 | DrodoEmpire | Sure |
| 17:04.04 | Imperios | Friday? |
| 17:04.08 | Technobliterator | yeah, one of the weekends is best |
| 17:04.12 | DrodoEmpire | This Saturday? |
| 17:04.13 | Technobliterator | since people are most free then |
| 17:04.21 | OluapPlayer_ | Needs to be a day where most people are free |
| 17:04.23 | Technobliterator | And I'd maybe say before the end of the month |
| 17:04.28 | Technobliterator | ok, now I need to eat, brb |
| 17:04.38 | OluapPlayer_ | I've one thing to note |
| 17:04.58 | Imperios | Saturday yeah |
| 17:05.05 | Charles_Bot | Yeah, seems to me like a great idea |
| 17:05.09 | Imperios | Please don't be anything snarky |
| 17:05.11 | Imperios | Plz |
| 17:05.11 | Imperios | plz |
| 17:05.12 | Monet | It's a good idea. It could encourage discussion when people are available. |
| 17:05.19 | Wormy_ | I have struggled for a long time to get my hard and speculative SF themes to be read by more than a bunch of people, although I'm happy now just to work with a small group of users and sometimes give my contributions to real politik or adventure-themed fiction an edge (without going too far) of my own style |
| 17:05.20 | Quark8 | I like this idea very much. |
| 17:05.21 | OluapPlayer_ | Hachi is particularly hurt over how people didn't bother mentioning him or contacting him these last few days |
| 17:05.27 | Xho | i am best user |
| 17:05.45 | Monet | I've mentioned before one of the current issues with FAs is people vote, then go on their merry way. |
| 17:06.14 | OluapPlayer_ | It just helped fuel the feeling of being isolated |
| 17:06.56 | Wormy_ | I used to feel isolated a lot and suffered in silence. My fiction was even opposed sometimes. In the end I just stopped caring |
| 17:07.11 | Imperios | ^ same here |
| 17:07.14 | Monet | Same with me. |
| 17:07.17 | Imperios | That's why I stopped working |
| 17:07.18 | Imperios | FUCK WORK |
| 17:07.20 | Imperios | FUCK WORK I SAY |
| 17:07.23 | Wormy_ | But because I stopped caring doesn't imply I think anybody else should, we're all different |
| 17:07.24 | OluapPlayer_ | That's not a healthy mindset |
| 17:07.33 | Imperios | It helps us |
| 17:07.37 | Imperios | We now work mostly for ourselves |
| 17:07.41 | Imperios | We have ideas, we write about them |
| 17:07.49 | OluapPlayer_ | Hachi feels the same as that, he thinks people don't pay attention to his work so he just stopped working |
| 17:07.57 | Imperios | BROTHERHOOD OF LAZY |
| 17:07.58 | Monet | I found it better than fretting over "why is no one looking at my stuff?" |
| 17:08.28 | Wormy_ | Well I've found a niche of putting an edge to my style in fictions like GXS and Da Reckoning |
| 17:08.38 | OluapPlayer_ | This kind of attention shouldn't be acceptable anymore |
| 17:08.39 | Monet | That and, to begin with, I was quietly telling myself maybe there were offsite or anonymous users reading it. |
| 17:08.46 | Wormy_ | That seems to work quite well without over stretching |
| 17:08.51 | OluapPlayer_ | attitude, I mean |
| 17:08.54 | OluapPlayer_ | kind of attitude |
| 17:10.20 | Monet | Here's the thing. And again I'm drifting into anecdote: I have about 150 followers on Twitter, I find my Twitter posts get noticed by say...at least 300 people a day. How many like or retweet? Barely anyone. |
| 17:10.37 | Wormy_ | I must admit though, now I don't have much time, I don't feel like writing shorts like this anymore http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Manifold_Bees |
| 17:11.05 | Monet | I try not to let it bother me that less than 2% of the people who see my tweets give me a like. |
| 17:11.42 | Charles_Bot | I respect Hachi's feelings and it's something we should work to address. We should probably remember, though, that he kind of enacted a scorched earth policy in the fictionverse (killing off the Brood of War, for instance), and isolated himself in the fantasyverse, where only a part of the community has stuff. Maybe we could go back, retcon his fictions back |
| 17:11.42 | Charles_Bot | in, and look for ways to integrate him back into the fictionverse community? |
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| 17:11.48 | OluapPlayer | This disconnection was on purpose |
| 17:12.26 | Charles_Bot | I respect Hachi's feelings and it's something we should work to address. We should probably remember, though, that he kind of enacted a scorched earth policy in the fictionverse (killing off the Brood of War, for instance), and isolated himself in the fantasyverse, where only a part of the community has stuff. Maybe we could go back, retcon his fictions back |
| 17:12.28 | Imperios | He does not want to |
| 17:12.33 | Monet | Charles_Bot: I think he's dead-set on leaving the Brood of War dead. But he has other fictions. |
| 17:12.34 | Imperios | We should not force him to |
| 17:12.39 | Charles_Bot | 1:11 PM <Charles_Bot> in, and look for ways to integrate him back into the fictionverse community? |
| 17:12.41 | Charles_Bot | Repost |
| 17:12.43 | Imperios | Just let him stay in his own little community |
| 17:12.51 | Imperios | It's okay for him to stay like that |
| 17:12.59 | Charles_Bot | Of course it's his choice |
| 17:13.10 | Charles_Bot | I was making a suggestion of something we could do to help |
| 17:13.13 | OluapPlayer | Hachi didn't isolate himself. He planned to create a new fiction after the end of the Brood |
| 17:13.19 | Monet | Hachi had been talking about killing Tyraz for a long time. |
| 17:13.32 | Charles_Bot | Well then, we could do that? |
| 17:13.43 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer, my personal reason for not reaching out to Hachi is just that I'm worried I may make things worse or that I don't know if he may not want people to reach out to him. However, I do hope he's ok. |
| 17:13.44 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 17:14.12 | Charles_Bot | If Hachi sticks to his own little community, of course he's going to feel isolated |
| 17:14.16 | Monet | Technobliterator: Understandable. |
| 17:14.38 | OluapPlayer | Don't talk about what you don't know about |
| 17:14.38 | Xho | "Make Bing my search browser" "Make hell my choice destination" |
| 17:14.46 | OluapPlayer | Things got to this point for a reason |
| 17:14.59 | Xho | Gonna have to drop out for a sec |
| 17:15.10 | Cyrannian | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:15.14 | Technobliterator | Hachi is a great page writer |
| 17:15.26 | Technobliterator | he makes some of the most detailed pages |
| 17:15.31 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 17:15.46 | OluapPlayer | Yes, all that work and he doesn't get feedback to make it worth his time and effort |
| 17:15.46 | Wormy_ | Hachi likes writing huge amounts as a preference and style, but it might feel worthless if nobody reads it |
| 17:15.52 | Monet | Charles has hit what I think is one of the key issues: As I mentioned earlier, Irskaad's strategy, before he left, was to do all he could to bring people to the Kraw Galaxy. In the end he felt like no one cared and left. |
| 17:15.57 | Wormy_ | bbl |
| 17:16.16 | Imperios | Hachi made some great things back then |
| 17:16.25 | Imperios | Like Dysnomia |
| 17:16.33 | Monet | Oh yeah definitely. |
| 17:16.35 | Charles_Bot | Alright then, I admit I know nothing about his personal circumstances. But you asked me to take an interest in his fiction, and I was offering solutions |
| 17:16.36 | OluapPlayer | Hachi's fiction isn't isolated. It's spread through the whole setting |
| 17:16.48 | Imperios | Right now he focuses mostly on fantasy which is niche |
| 17:17.05 | OluapPlayer | he does because he doesn't think the scifiverse is worth the time |
| 17:17.11 | Xho | fantasyverse > fictionverse WOLOLOLOL |
| 17:17.12 | Wormy_away | Its where fiction preference runs against viewership and community participation, not so much what their content is |
| 17:17.18 | Imperios | His choice :P |
| 17:17.25 | OluapPlayer | Not "his choice" |
| 17:17.26 | Technobliterator | It's a shame, really |
| 17:17.31 | OluapPlayer | He gets attention in the fantasyverse |
| 17:17.36 | OluapPlayer | That's why he sticks to it |
| 17:17.57 | Monet | Mentioning a fiction spread across the entire setting is a different feeling to showing they're everywhere through stories. |
| 17:18.00 | Technobliterator | So, everyone's cool with the "fiction reading day" idea, right? |
| 17:18.06 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
| 17:18.11 | Monet | The Zazane were successful at that. The Ta not so much. |
| 17:18.22 | Charles_Bot | Technobliterator : Yeah, it's a great idea |
| 17:18.25 | Technobliterator | Well, the end of the month is coming soon |
| 17:18.34 | Technobliterator | So, we could host the first one next weekend on Saturday |
| 17:18.36 | Technobliterator | \o/ |
| 17:18.44 | Monet | Next weekend is cool. |
| 17:18.46 | OluapPlayer | Only if hachi is active again by then |
| 17:18.49 | OluapPlayer | I want him back here |
| 17:18.55 | Technobliterator | I agree |
| 17:18.59 | OluapPlayer | And I want people to recognize his effort |
| 17:19.46 | Cyrannian | Sounds like a good idea |
| 17:19.57 | Monet | Breaking down barriers is going to require effort from *everyone*. |
| 17:19.57 | Technobliterator | Obviously, having a monthly fiction reading day doesn't mean you only read fiction on that day, it just means that everyone frees up time then, we nominate say, 4 or so fictions for everyone to check out and then spend the day reading about those rather than working on our own stuff |
| 17:20.04 | Charles_Bot | I'm personally willing to meet him halfway and read and participate in his fiction, but I'm afraid that it's not sustainable if it's not a two-way street. |
| 17:20.16 | Monet | ^ |
| 17:20.47 | OluapPlayer | That's for you to resolve with each other |
| 17:21.09 | Monet | For factions to be known gig-wide, they need to be -seen- gig-wide. |
| 17:21.30 | Technobliterator | I still mention the Ottzelloan Zazane in URO |
| 17:21.30 | Imperios | BTW guys |
| 17:21.34 | Imperios | If any of you want to approach Hachi |
| 17:21.36 | Imperios | Skype him |
| 17:21.45 | Imperios | He's much more calm when talking |
| 17:21.50 | Imperios | Because he actually makes an effort to be as abrasive as possible when writing |
| 17:21.55 | Imperios | That explains why I hate him too |
| 17:22.20 | Cyrannian | Technobliterator: Ideally, the featured articles each month should encourage that. Though very few people nominate fictions these days |
| 17:22.36 | OluapPlayer | One problem leading to another |
| 17:22.40 | Technobliterator | That's why I say that we have the fiction reading day just before the end of the month |
| 17:23.04 | Cyrannian | That should work very well |
| 17:23.06 | Technobliterator | Because it'll increase awareness of those fictions and then they'll be more involved when the FA day comes just under a week after that |
| 17:24.15 | OluapPlayer | Indeed |
| 17:24.35 | Monet | Maybe we should consider FAs being the responsability of more than one person. |
| 17:24.57 | Monet | Otherwise this whole thing collapses when the only organiser forgets or is busy. |
| 17:25.03 | OluapPlayer | I don't see how that would matter |
| 17:25.17 | OluapPlayer | The person's task is the same regardless of who does it |
| 17:25.39 | Technobliterator | ^ |
| 17:25.42 | Monet | Look what happens to FAs when Cyrannian is unavailable. |
| 17:25.53 | Technobliterator | yeah, he...just asks someone else to do it? |
| 17:26.26 | Monet | That wasn't the case all the time. |
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| 17:26.44 | DrodoEmpire | Back |
| 17:26.48 | DrodoEmpire | What'd I miss? |
| 17:26.53 | Monet | It took the FAs being dead for a while first |
| 17:27.05 | Technobliterator | This is beside the point, honestly |
| 17:27.06 | Cyrannian | I understand where he is coming from, you can notice a trend when you look at the overall featured articles page that fictions are double featured when I start/end a term hur |
| 17:27.36 | OluapPlayer | People don't care enough to remind us to get the FAs updated |
| 17:27.50 | Technobliterator | The reason why FA doesn't increase awareness of fiction on its own is because people haven't read said fictions before the vote happens. They'll often vote for the one they know about having not read a few others |
| 17:28.02 | Technobliterator | This is one of the things the reading day could help solve |
| 17:28.58 | Technobliterator | I will happily lead the reading day project, or share it with someone, just as long as there's an admin around to highlight the thread and post in the chan topic when it happens |
| 17:29.01 | Cyrannian | But I don't see that as the primary problem. It's mainly the fact people aren't going out and nominating fictions. (being on IRC isn't necessary at the time isn't necessary either, all users get a notification to add their own nominees when I highlight the monthly forum post) |
| 17:29.17 | Cyrannian | bleh that got mixed up, but you get what I mean |
| 17:30.30 | Monet | The IRC's a more organic discussion space. So for fiction discussion both the forum and the IRC could be used |
| 17:30.41 | OluapPlayer | brb will disconnect again |
| 17:31.07 | Technobliterator | I would use the forum to highlight them, and the IRC to chat about them |
| 17:31.12 | Monet | Actually this is perhaps one of the advantages of the new forum format: No more edit conflicts? |
| 17:31.13 | OluapPlayer | Oh I didn't disconnect |
| 17:31.15 | OluapPlayer | Neat |
| 17:31.38 | Xho | inb4 disconnects |
| 17:31.49 | OluapPlayer | such is life with 3rd worlder internet |
| 17:31.51 | Technobliterator | But I'd just tell people to spend the day focusing on reading other fictions and not writing their own |
| 17:32.05 | Technobliterator | phew |
| 17:32.08 | Technobliterator | DrodoEmpire, I'm free now |
| 17:32.38 | OluapPlayer | But yeah I think this covers all I wanted to say |
| 17:33.46 | Technobliterator | Is Hachi still on Steam? I'll try and pop up to him at some point |
| 17:33.51 | Xho | He's not on atm |
| 17:33.55 | Xho | I'm talking to him on Skype now |
| 17:34.10 | OluapPlayer | Yeah he's offline on Steam but online on Skype |
| 17:34.20 | OluapPlayer | I think he's not at home right now |
| 17:34.47 | DrodoEmpire | Tech: Cool cool |
| 17:35.36 | OluapPlayer | DrodoEmpire: After all this I want to know what you had in mind for Borealis |
| 17:35.36 | Cyrannian | Must be weird hearing the other person's voice. Tried it a few weeks ago on Halo 5 multiplayer and it was quite awkward |
| 17:35.50 | OluapPlayer | We talk through text, not voice |
| 17:35.53 | Technobliterator | I am too voice chat shy for that |
| 17:35.55 | Technobliterator | : | |
| 17:36.06 | Cyrannian | Oh right, I'll give it a try |
| 17:36.08 | OluapPlayer | Well, I voice chat with Hachi, but only when we're playing games together |
| 17:36.22 | Xho | No one likes voice chatting with me |
| 17:36.26 | Xho | I think my voice is pretty horrid |
| 17:36.37 | Cyrannian | your voice is majestic, I still remember it after all these years. |
| 17:36.39 | Xho | Or unintelligble, one of those two |
| 17:38.36 | Xho | Either way sort dis shit out |
| 17:38.36 | Quark8 | I've been told my voice sounds pre-pubescent. |
| 17:39.09 | OluapPlayer | savage |
| 17:39.16 | Xho | My voice is relatively average for a British person but then I start talking fast enough to turn it into another language |
| 17:40.08 | Monet | I'm told I'm fairly posh. |
| 17:42.22 | Monet | Speaking of chat |
| 17:42.55 | Monet | AYNONE WHO PLAYS STELLARIS: Panda has expressed interest in wanting to play multiplayer. |
| 17:43.05 | Quark8 | Ok. |
| 17:43.10 | Cyrannian | Sounds good |
| 17:43.31 | Monet | He tells me the recent patch did a lot for diplomacy. |
| 17:43.43 | Cyrannian | rioght, I'm on Skype now if anyone wants to add me |
| 17:45.07 | OluapPlayer | gib name |
| 17:45.39 | *** join/#sporewiki Luxor (589ca3c3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.156.163.195) |
| 17:45.43 | Luxor | Good evening |
| 17:45.49 | Luxor | *at least for ppl in Europe |
| 17:45.56 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 17:46.06 | Imperios | annexes Luxor |
| 17:46.58 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:47.22 | Cyrannian | Yup |
| 17:47.49 | Luxor | comes here with an idea to make a new field for creations in ancient eras. |
| 17:48.12 | Luxor | would like to share the idea if other members of FU would like to hear it. |
| 17:48.25 | Monet | Probably not needed |
| 17:48.32 | Monet | Wait define 'field' |
| 17:48.39 | Quark8 | Monet: What is Panda's Steam name? |
| 17:49.05 | Monet | Panda. |
| 17:49.13 | Monet | Not even kidding lol |
| 17:49.24 | Luxor | Existence of such a realm is critical for fiction story I'm working for now. At least kind of. |
| 17:49.42 | Monet | So field as in a locale. |
| 17:52.02 | DrodoEmpire | Cyrannian: Mind if I add you? |
| 17:52.28 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Link to the update? |
| 17:52.43 | Monet | Luxor: I think all we need is to work out the state of the universe whenever you et your story |
| 17:53.21 | Charles_Bot | I'm up for Stellaris |
| 17:53.37 | Monet | http://www.stellariswiki.com/Patch_1.2.X |
| 17:53.56 | DrodoEmpire | Thanks |
| 17:53.57 | Luxor | Well, the problem is that the story shifts throughout the current date and approx. 3 bilion years ago. |
| 17:54.00 | Cyrannian | DrodoEmpire: no problme |
| 17:54.10 | OluapPlayer | http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091482989/ this is Panda |
| 17:54.12 | DrodoEmpire | kk |
| 17:54.23 | Luxor | Monet: I'm still waiting for a single DLC to start playing Stellaris again |
| 17:54.48 | DrodoEmpire | I'll be "Max" (my RL name, please don't call me that >.<) |
| 17:55.10 | Luxor | shall remember that. |
| 17:55.20 | Xho | DrodoEmpire: r u mad tho |
| 17:55.26 | Luxor | lmao |
| 17:55.34 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
| 17:55.54 | Luxor | https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLafsosK8cgwHW0CcTbDJBuy4m8jHFmphydQAEjoZBwpWuuRvz4tJhf8-m |
| 17:56.15 | Luxor | Crappy quality, nvm |
| 17:56.46 | Monet | Luxor: Why wait for DLC? |
| 17:57.13 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Can I call you "Blood bag"? |
| 17:57.20 | DrodoEmpire | no |
| 17:57.21 | DrodoEmpire | >: |
| 17:57.39 | Xho | DrodoEmpire, the UNIVERSAL ORGAN DONOR |
| 17:57.40 | Luxor | Background [of-what-lies-yet-in-my-imagination]: Intergalactic empire (which was basically erased from history circa 3 bilion years ago, ruling the Gigaquadrant (or whatever it was in that time). |
| 17:57.47 | Luxor | Drodo, can you do me a favor? |
| 17:57.55 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm? |
| 17:57.58 | Luxor | WITNESS ME |
| 17:58.26 | Luxor | Ahh the mad max universum is trurly amazing. |
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| 17:58.38 | OluapPlayer | You probably can't claim to rule the entire Gigaquadrant in any point in time |
| 17:58.39 | DrodoEmpire | everybody pls |
| 17:58.43 | DrodoEmpire | stahp |
| 17:58.46 | DrodoEmpire | >: |
| 17:58.50 | The_Randomness | hm? |
| 17:59.01 | Luxor | Oluap, i know that. But yet, this is still a subject of a discussion. |
| 17:59.07 | DrodoEmpire | Making fun of my name ;~; |
| 17:59.12 | OluapPlayer | mid mix |
| 17:59.21 | Luxor | Whether one galaxy, half of a galaxy, universe or gigaquarant, not really matters |
| 17:59.21 | Imperios | My name is "Andrei" |
| 17:59.25 | Imperios | Feel free to mock me about it |
| 17:59.35 | Monet | Not suer how |
| 17:59.37 | OluapPlayer | I got my real name on my username |
| 17:59.44 | Luxor | Player? |
| 17:59.44 | OluapPlayer | Been like that since ever |
| 17:59.47 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
| 17:59.47 | Cyrannian | My original name came from my surname |
| 17:59.47 | Monet | It's just a Russian Andrew. |
| 17:59.52 | Luxor | ^ |
| 17:59.58 | Quark8 | Mock my name. |
| 18:00.01 | Quark8 | It is Aaryan. |
| 18:00.21 | Luxor | *hindi aryan superpower by 2020* |
| 18:00.26 | Cyrannian | Sounds like a Libertus name hue |
| 18:00.44 | Xho | OluapPlayer: zhulultu macht frei |
| 18:00.45 | OluapPlayer | dats not a bad thing tho |
| 18:00.51 | OluapPlayer | Xho: u wish |
| 18:01.09 | Imperios | Quark8: My right arm is twitching |
| 18:01.25 | Imperios | Luxor: What's that with you and /pol/ memes |
| 18:01.32 | Luxor | On regard of making someone free: some tourists in Auschwitz Birkenau were caught upon searching for coffins near crematorium |
| 18:01.34 | Quark8 | Why? :? |
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| 18:01.43 | Luxor | Ak, not coffins. |
| 18:01.48 | Monet | I heard about that |
| 18:01.51 | Luxor | Koffins, if I say right, in Pokemon GO. |
| 18:01.53 | Imperios | I mean you *are* a Polack but are you also a /pol/ack |
| 18:01.54 | Monet | They were looking for Pokemon iirc |
| 18:02.09 | OluapPlayer | Can't touch Borealis or otherwise you get Regnatus's 2 parsec-long dong |
| 18:02.09 | Luxor | Imperios, I regret visiting this site anyway |
| 18:02.24 | Imperios | Monet: The Russian Orthodox Church has actually banned pokemon-searching in churches |
| 18:02.29 | Luxor | searches for anything he knows connected with Borealis |
| 18:02.29 | Xho | Santorakh - rub the spicy interdimensional metal meat |
| 18:02.37 | Imperios | And denounced Pokemon GO as sinful to boot |
| 18:02.47 | Luxor | I treat Pokemon GO as a succesful cancer |
| 18:02.57 | Luxor | or rather a natural selection tool in action |
| 18:03.17 | Imperios | They said something like "a game that substitutes reality in a way like Pokemon GO does is a path to denying it" |
| 18:03.18 | OluapPlayer | One guy I'm subbed to on YouTube showed off an audio recording of a guy claiming Pokemon were "cyber demons" |
| 18:03.37 | Luxor | wtf |
| 18:03.42 | OluapPlayer | Don't you love technologically impaired old people |
| 18:03.49 | Monet | Imperios: At least the accusation isn't that it's promoting Devil worship. |
| 18:03.49 | The_Randomness | I know Saudi Arabia denounced Pokemon for some silly reasons lol |
| 18:04.03 | Luxor | Saudi Arabia exists for some silly reasons |
| 18:04.25 | Luxor | but that's none of my business, it's far enough away from Europe to care |
| 18:04.28 | Imperios | Our Church is not *that* stupid |
| 18:04.33 | Imperios | We're not Americans for God's sake |
| 18:04.42 | Luxor | I'm not saying Islam is bad |
| 18:04.50 | Imperios | DESTROY SAUDI ARABIA |
| 18:04.51 | Luxor | People who teach islam nowadays are bad |
| 18:04.52 | Imperios | DISMANTLE SALAFISM |
| 18:04.57 | Imperios | DESTROY EVERYTHING |
| 18:05.00 | Imperios | BUT LEAVE MECCA AND MEDINA |
| 18:05.06 | Imperios | BECAUSE I RESPECT FREEDOM OF RELIGION |
| 18:05.11 | The_Randomness | Luxor: nice sweeping generalization |
| 18:05.17 | Imperios | GLASS EVERY OTHER PIECE OF SAUDI ARABIA |
| 18:05.35 | Imperios | Hey that's the time to test that "subchannel" idea of ours |
| 18:05.40 | Imperios | #sporewiki-RemoveKebab |
| 18:05.44 | Technobliterator | yeah, urm |
| 18:05.57 | Technobliterator | can we move this discussion to a sidechannel or to PM please : | |
| 18:06.08 | Monet | I'm for it. |
| 18:06.16 | OluapPlayer | Yes let's not ignore the giant discussion we just had |
| 18:07.04 | Luxor | sure. |
| 18:07.12 | OluapPlayer | Speaking of subchannels, I have to ask |
| 18:07.27 | OluapPlayer | Do we really need the two rp channels? Has anyone ever even used those? |
| 18:07.40 | Luxor | Back to this "empire" - it coul even be fair enough if it inhabitated a region fairly close to Gigaquadrant |
| 18:07.43 | Technobliterator | They're kind of redundant now |
| 18:07.47 | Technobliterator | since we have titanpad for that |
| 18:07.48 | Monet | Not since everyone adopted Titanpad |
| 18:07.50 | Luxor | if it was*, uh. |
| 18:07.54 | *** topic/#sporewiki by Technobliterator -> SporeWiki! http://spore.wikia.com || Logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23sporewiki/ || Collaborative Universes: Sci-Fi http://tinyurl.com/3ddvp7q Fantasy http://tinyurl.com/p9qau7l || Titanpad: https://titanpad.com/ |
| 18:07.59 | Monet | Titanpad is *much* better than chat-lines. |
| 18:08.04 | Imperios | YIY |
| 18:08.36 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: if yuo love titanpad so much why dont you marry it <.< >.> |
| 18:08.53 | OluapPlayer | he can't mary titanpad since it's not a dragon girl |
| 18:09.21 | Luxor | I just would be pleased the most if: a) some ppl willed to help me with expanding it (got some solid basis for lore) and b) if someone told me whether Pillars of Creation are occupied by any empire, as it may force me into an unexpected collab. |
| 18:09.49 | OluapPlayer | I don't think the Pillars were ever mentioned in fiction before |
| 18:10.10 | Monet | What are these pillars again? |
| 18:10.10 | Luxor | I will use these as shelters for 3 huge beacons then. |
| 18:10.12 | Imperios | Pillars of Creation |
| 18:10.13 | Luxor | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pillars_of_Creation |
| 18:10.13 | Imperios | What the |
| 18:10.19 | Imperios | Since when is SporeWiki Warcraft? |
| 18:10.31 | Imperios | I mean sure my first empire was called the Illidans |
| 18:10.32 | Imperios | But still |
| 18:10.33 | Luxor | since never I bet |
| 18:10.34 | Xho | World of Sporecraft |
| 18:10.37 | Xho | get fukked |
| 18:10.44 | Technobliterator | It's also Mass Sporefect |
| 18:10.45 | OluapPlayer | That's just the fantasyverse |
| 18:10.49 | Technobliterator | and Metal Gear Spore |
| 18:10.51 | Technobliterator | etc |
| 18:10.51 | OluapPlayer | And that's Borealis |
| 18:10.57 | Xho | Longinus - praise the subscription fee |
| 18:11.05 | Luxor | \[T]/ |
| 18:11.09 | Monet | Luxor: The Pillars are 5000-7000ly form Earth |
| 18:11.12 | OluapPlayer | Also shame on you for not knowing the Pillars of Creation |
| 18:11.14 | Luxor | Yes they are. |
| 18:11.23 | Luxor | *shame* |
| 18:11.56 | Luxor | I bet none civilizations would be interested in this are if these do not search for minerals and metals in nebulas. |
| 18:11.58 | Monet | It's been a long time since I looked at Hubble images |
| 18:12.02 | Luxor | area*. |
| 18:12.08 | OluapPlayer | I always liked them |
| 18:12.16 | Luxor | Too crowded imo |
| 18:12.17 | OluapPlayer | They're like one of the prettiest things in space |
| 18:12.31 | Xho | is actually xhodocto fork |
| 18:12.44 | Luxor | I bet most of the aliens who developed intergalactic civilizations do not seek for beauty in the stars |
| 18:12.50 | Monet | Notable features1–2 million years old |
| 18:12.50 | Imperios | Xho: But where is the cheese |
| 18:12.54 | Luxor | but Xho might be right |
| 18:12.55 | Xho | dark matter |
| 18:13.10 | OluapPlayer | Santorakh - damnit i dropped it again |
| 18:13.15 | Luxor | Xho: any blue cheese here? |
| 18:13.30 | Monet | If it's for a race that lived 3 billion years ago the Eagle Nebula didn't exist back then |
| 18:13.38 | Luxor | Yes! that's the point. |
| 18:13.51 | Luxor | The stars existing there would have perished long ago. |
| 18:14.17 | Luxor | Also some AI are the wardens of these 'beacons' |
| 18:14.39 | Luxor | Cephalons, planet-sized computers, etc, etc... |
| 18:15.12 | Luxor | But, even if I am to start building this up from scratch, I'd like to see some people willing to expand that as well. |
| 18:15.17 | Monet | If the Pillars are only 6000 light years away that puts them within territory controlled by Humanity. |
| 18:15.29 | Luxor | And that's the problem I have. |
| 18:15.32 | Monet | presently controlled rather |
| 18:16.12 | Luxor | I bet stealth ship utilizing this lost technology of the old empire could be enough to bypass that, but a talk IS needed there. |
| 18:16.30 | Luxor | *instant travel intensifies* |
| 18:19.22 | Cyrannian | bai, I'll be back later |
| 18:19.55 | Monet | Hmm |
| 18:20.51 | Luxor | For now what I am planning is a short (2 hours long) visit in this area. |
| 18:20.59 | Luxor | not irl ofc. |
| 18:21.09 | Monet | I'm not sure what to say without making nebulae boring and ruining fun. |
| 18:21.40 | Luxor | That's not really what I am aiming at. Do you see any critical issues regarding that? |
| 18:21.44 | Monet | Hiding in a nebula is not much different form hiding in empty space really. |
| 18:22.32 | Luxor | This idea would use the fact that this civilization thought hiding beacons leading to another realm inside stars is a good idea. |
| 18:25.53 | Luxor | But, to be honest, I did not think about leaving it just in space. |
| 18:26.08 | Monet | When you say realm, are we talking a basement universe or another plane of existence? |
| 18:26.24 | Luxor | rather a plane, that is under work for about a year because of my laziness. |
| 18:26.30 | Luxor | Yes, I should have been more precise about that. |
| 18:27.24 | Monet | I think the sentiment is to avoid making new planes of existence. |
| 18:27.51 | Monet | But a basement universe should be fine, the laws of physics are mostly up to the creator. |
| 18:28.14 | Luxor | If so, perhaps such a title would fit the concept better. |
| 18:28.39 | Luxor | A 'realm-universe' that is (or at least was) in constant energy balance with the current universe. |
| 18:28.53 | Luxor | I though about attaching it to void energy. |
| 18:28.54 | Monet | I meantioned hiding something in a nebula is like hiding something in space is because nebulae are a lot less colourful when you're near or inside one. |
| 18:29.07 | Luxor | Well, yes. |
| 18:29.47 | Luxor | Gazing at the gas nebulae is far elss spectacular from a perspective of its inhabitant. |
| 18:29.55 | Luxor | less*, ugh. |
| 18:30.13 | Monet | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Pillars_of_creation_2014_HST_WFC3-UVIS_full-res_denoised.jpg whle I agree this is very pretty. You'll need eyes that can see in the IR, UV and gamma spectra. |
| 18:30.22 | Monet | In order to see it |
| 18:31.47 | Monet | Maybe not gamma. |
| 18:31.47 | Luxor | A cephalon hiding such a beacon would be far more sensitive to nearby stars rather than to very surrounding of a nebulae. |
| 18:32.59 | Luxor | And I think that large amount of species present in FU rather don't see the universe like a Human. |
| 18:33.12 | Luxor | Regarding the fact that we see low-energy waves as red and high-energy as blue. |
| 18:34.57 | Monet | I think aliens might still have a rainbow-coloured visible spectrum. |
| 18:35.18 | Monet | They might be able to see UV or IR light though, depending on their evolution. |
| 18:35.37 | Luxor | but still, not identical to human's understanding of light spectrum. |
| 18:36.34 | Monet | Visible light spectrum...maybe. |
| 18:37.24 | Monet | If you're talking about this http://www.scratchapixel.com/old/assets/Uploads/Lesson014/l014-electromagnetic.png? then I don't see how aliens might interpret it differently aside from different names. |
| 18:37.53 | Monet | And some variation in the thresholds |
| 18:38.33 | Luxor | I think we went into a discussion that does not really have much to do with the topic I wanted to discuss, seems to be my fault. |
| 18:38.49 | Luxor | So, for what I know there are none major issues with current state of my project. |
| 18:38.52 | Monet | Partially mine as well. |
| 18:39.39 | Monet | I myself an not too fussed with you putting something in the Eagle Nebula. |
| 18:40.00 | Monet | The DI have a province within the Crab Nebula for instance. |
| 18:40.17 | Luxor | Whole name of the fiction relies on this Nebula :I |
| 18:40.39 | Luxor | BUT, as far as I know I have an open way to proceed, and that pleases me greatly. |
| 18:41.39 | Luxor | This empire's [I'll refer to them later as 'Firstborn' since that's how they called themselves] technology is almost finished imo |
| 18:41.59 | Luxor | population and society too |
| 18:42.15 | Monet | Aside form looking pretty there's nothing already that special I can think of about the Eagle nebula or the Pillars. |
| 18:42.16 | Luxor | Mixing this with current FU might yield interesting results. |
| 18:42.33 | Luxor | *I almost forgot about another thing. |
| 18:42.49 | Luxor | But I'll share that in forums since this needs explanation. |
| 18:43.01 | Luxor | Monet, thanks for help. |
| 18:43.04 | Luxor | cya ppl |
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| 18:45.14 | Quark8 | Monet: Did Panda give any details about wanting to play multiplayer? |
| 18:47.30 | Monet | Yay my Spore works with Windows 10 |
| 18:47.53 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:49.07 | Quark8 | Ok. |
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| 19:05.59 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 19:06.09 | Quark8 | Hi. |
| 19:26.43 | OluapPlayer | I was feeling creative and came across a creature I made in 2009. So I gave a shot at remaking it |
| 19:26.55 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/w5129re.png original derpy 2009 Oluap |
| 19:27.07 | OluapPlayer | http://i.imgur.com/oxZ2cfu.png remade angry 2016 Oluap |
| 19:27.41 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: CRAAAAAAB PEOPLE |
| 19:27.48 | Imperios | Or rather |
| 19:27.52 | Imperios | CRAAAAAAB DRAGON SOMETHING PEOPLE |
| 19:28.07 | Monet | The second one looks like a super soldier project by comparison. |
| 19:28.10 | OluapPlayer | The original was called 'Lobsdraco' |
| 19:28.22 | OluapPlayer | So it was meant to be a dragon with lobster pincers |
| 19:28.53 | OluapPlayer | "Be careful who you bully in school" |
| 19:29.47 | OluapPlayer | Wonder if I could use that for something |
| 19:30.12 | Monet | New one certainly looks threatening. |
| 19:30.16 | Xho | Fantasyverse chickens |
| 19:30.18 | Xho | As in |
| 19:30.23 | Xho | Replace chickens with those |
| 19:30.45 | OluapPlayer | Good lord |
| 19:31.00 | OluapPlayer | CRAB BATTLE |
| 19:31.52 | OluapPlayer | Usually when I remake an old creature I dump them at Borealis, but the pincer hands might make it difficult |
| 19:34.39 | Ghelae | Koldenwelt: the world where even the chickens are spiky pincer-armed carnivores. |
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| 19:35.18 | OluapPlayer | You can say the lobster tastes like chicken I guess |
| 19:39.22 | Xho | EVERYTHING WORKS |
| 19:53.17 | OluapPlayer | Now I was playing one of my own old adventures |
| 19:53.41 | OluapPlayer | It made me remember Volim was originally the name of the leader of the Brezare who were enemies of the Wranploer |
| 19:54.01 | OluapPlayer | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/70/BrezareURC.png/revision/latest?cb=20140703145551 these things |
| 19:54.27 | Monet | I remember those. |
| 19:54.56 | OluapPlayer | I should remake those, they look unnecessarily evil |
| 19:55.49 | Wormy_ | We've had some serious talks today. I'm posting the Kitten Academy Live Stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o74BnFSr8g |
| 20:01.21 | Monet | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/8c/NBC_Merlin_Tornado.png/revision/latest?cb=20160722200006 http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/bd/NBC_Sideon_Peregrine.png/revision/latest?cb=20160722200034 Made some Bong jets. |
| 20:01.52 | OluapPlayer | Looks sleek |
| 20:02.43 | Wormy_ | "Bong" Turn on, tune in, drop out |
| 20:02.46 | Monet | The Sideon Peregrine is a Harrier-like VTOL used for strike support while the Merlin Tornado is an air/space dominance fighter. |
| 20:04.04 | Charles_Bot | Very nice |
| 20:07.49 | Monet | Might make some tweaks to the Tornado. |
| 20:08.27 | Imperios | They now look more evil |
| 20:08.36 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Give them big eyes |
| 20:08.38 | Imperios | Big anime eyes |
| 20:08.58 | OluapPlayer | senpai pls |
| 20:10.03 | Wormy_ | So Facebook reports likes as "react" now. Fine Bros gonna sue Facebook |
| 20:10.55 | Wormy_ | Seriously though I feel a sense of irritation when other areas of media use memes and popular phrases from internet subculture although its understandable why despite it looking lame. |
| 20:11.16 | OluapPlayer | You're not alone there |
| 20:16.59 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: hur I just played one of your adventures |
| 20:19.52 | OluapPlayer | Well, only adventure |
| 20:20.01 | Technobliterator | I made an Adventure? |
| 20:20.05 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
| 20:20.09 | Technobliterator | I bet it's llike |
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| 20:20.14 | Technobliterator | the cringiest and worst thing ever |
| 20:20.15 | PrimIsBack | ey |
| 20:20.20 | OluapPlayer | Back in february 2010 |
| 20:20.27 | Technobliterator | 6 years ago |
| 20:20.28 | Technobliterator | wow |
| 20:20.28 | OluapPlayer | It's Thr'aloy attacking the DCP |
| 20:20.32 | Technobliterator | ahh |
| 20:20.35 | PrimIsBack | can i see? |
| 20:20.40 | Technobliterator | probably still bad |
| 20:20.41 | PrimIsBack | i literally just joined :P |
| 20:20.42 | Technobliterator | but yeah |
| 20:21.08 | OluapPlayer | You're followed by an Ottzel infected with "Ottzdie" and you infect the DCP |
| 20:21.11 | OluapPlayer | And in the end you kill Valzo |
| 20:21.30 | PrimIsBack | ~commands |
| 20:21.33 | PrimIsBack | ~cmds |
| 20:21.34 | PrimIsBack | idk |
| 20:22.28 | OluapPlayer | It's funny because halfway through the Loron army stops because they're not sure what to do next |
| 20:22.42 | OluapPlayer | Which seems very canon |
| 20:23.37 | PrimisBack | i still don't know what i should change it to |
| 20:23.45 | PrimisBack | ~inspire PrimisBack |
| 20:24.04 | Technobliterator | hahaha |
| 20:24.05 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 20:24.20 | Technobliterator | Otzdie...so basically FoxDie |
| 20:24.25 | OluapPlayer | You also have to inspect a randm ribcage |
| 20:24.44 | OluapPlayer | And Thr'aloy goes "OK WHO ATE DAT GUY? I SHOULDVE ATE HIM" |
| 20:24.46 | Technobliterator | oh, probably to look for a Loron corpse |
| 20:24.51 | Technobliterator | or that |
| 20:24.52 | Technobliterator | lmao |
| 20:24.53 | PrimisBack | Guys? |
| 20:25.20 | Quark8 | Yes? |
| 20:25.26 | PrimisBack | ahem |
| 20:25.31 | PrimisBack | talking to tech and oluap |
| 20:25.41 | OluapPlayer | Not talking to you |
| 20:25.46 | PrimisBack | Why not? |
| 20:25.49 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: Also you talk to some Grimbs and tell them to go ta hell, and once they open fire they start going "You're the one who should go to hell!" |
| 20:26.00 | Technobliterator | hahahaha |
| 20:26.10 | OluapPlayer | I just imagine some really pissed off Grimbos going "YOU GO TO HELL" |
| 20:26.11 | Technobliterator | I imagine the DCP dialog would be more badass |
| 20:26.29 | Technobliterator | than what my 13 year old self could make in writing |
| 20:26.37 | Technobliterator | this actually makes me want to make a new Loron adventure |
| 20:27.10 | OluapPlayer | You also made another adventure but it's just a quest-less sight of a bunch of Loron fighting a bunch of Grimbs |
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| 20:30.19 | Technobliterator | oh, I probably used that for images or something |
| 20:31.01 | PrimisBack | sooo |
| 20:31.11 | PrimisBack | anything for the gxs? |
| 20:32.29 | PrimisBack | i don't have any idead |
| 20:32.32 | PrimisBack | ideas* |
| 20:32.45 | DrodoEmpire | That's pretty well over. |
| 20:32.56 | PrimisBack | oh |
| 20:32.57 | DrodoEmpire | We've long moved on |
| 20:33.01 | PrimisBack | dang |
| 20:33.11 | PrimisBack | any new groupfics? |
| 20:36.44 | Monet | Wormy_: Fireworks are going off near where I am, it's panicking next door's dogs but the owners are as usual telling the dogs to shut up. |
| 20:36.57 | PrimisBack | DrodoEmpire: |
| 20:37.05 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
| 20:37.15 | PrimisBack | Any new group fiction stories? |
| 20:37.31 | DrodoEmpire | There are some |
| 20:37.33 | Monet | I'm not expert but telling terrified dogs to be quiet, probably something they don't need. |
| 20:37.55 | Wormy_ | Monet: Its best not to give them any attention, it makes them more anxious |
| 20:38.08 | DrodoEmpire | Voidwalker's one, but its pretty full as it is |
| 20:38.30 | PrimisBack | any that I can join? |
| 20:39.18 | Wormy_ | One of my dogs goes and finds a dark place to crawl in and hide, I leave him to it. The other one doesn't care, except on New Years eve when he once skipped out the house running up and down the road barking, but he seemed yo enjoy prote4cting his territory being a terrier crossa |
| 20:39.28 | Wormy_ | *slipped |
| 20:40.29 | PrimisBack | Monet and Wormy_ live nextdoor to eachother confirmed |
| 20:40.56 | Wormy_ | No, but we have met |
| 20:42.05 | Monet | I know Wormy. He wouldn't scream at the top of his lungs for his dogs to be quiet. |
| 20:42.35 | PrimisBack | omg |
| 20:42.41 | PrimisBack | you guys know each other irl? |
| 20:42.46 | PrimisBack | welp |
| 20:42.50 | PrimisBack | time for death |
| 20:42.52 | PrimisBack | dies |
| 20:42.58 | Technobliterator | They have met in person, yes |
| 20:43.03 | Technobliterator | As has Ghel |
| 20:43.08 | PrimisBack | :O |
| 20:43.09 | PrimisBack | wow |
| 20:43.14 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: God did I love your adventures |
| 20:43.21 | Wormy_ | Acquainted now I suppose. We met Ghelae too. |
| 20:43.25 | OluapPlayer | Mine? |
| 20:44.10 | Wormy_ | Imperios and Tybusen beat us to it in the first wiki meetup. But I doubt 3 will be beaten for a while. |
| 20:46.19 | PrimisBack | wow |
| 20:46.27 | Wormy_ | On the subject of adventures, I need to reinstall Spore to work with Windows 10. Ghelae; Cyrannian tells me you might have had the same problem I do, with messed up UI and menus. Creation cards appear as blank white space. I can play the main game but it crashes often. |
| 20:46.51 | PrimisBack | I just play it on my mom's W7 |
| 20:46.52 | The_Randomness | I use 10, and I didn't have any trouble with the game |
| 20:47.10 | Wormy_ | Are you using Spore GA by any chance? |
| 20:47.12 | OluapPlayer | I use Windows 10 and the game works perfect |
| 20:47.15 | Technobliterator | I do not use Windows, but am considering getting Windows 10 |
| 20:47.18 | Technobliterator | I've heard 10 is not bad |
| 20:47.26 | PrimisBack | I'm not wasting $whatever on Steam!SPORE |
| 20:47.30 | Monet | I don't know if it affects things but before I booted up I installed the latest graphics drivers and verified the game files |
| 20:47.48 | Wormy_ | Unfortunately I have the disc version of Spore |
| 20:48.21 | Monet | Ah |
| 20:48.22 | Ghelae | Wormy_: My problem is just that my computer doesn't properly recognise the disc is in (even though it actually does recognise it), but it seems to be Windows 10 related. |
| 20:48.45 | Ghelae | It does allow me to log in even though I removed the DRM now, which is nice. |
| 20:48.46 | Monet | Technobliterator: Pretty solid, the biggest issue is going to be security. |
| 20:48.57 | PrimisBack | yeah |
| 20:49.00 | Wormy_ | I see |
| 20:49.03 | PrimisBack | no reinforced concrete |
| 20:49.15 | Technobliterator | Security? Bleh |
| 20:49.24 | Technobliterator | I loved having no viruses on Linux :c |
| 20:49.35 | Wormy_ | I'm a little bit concerned about the DRM since this would be my fourth installation. But I think I used that mod that includes extra installations. |
| 20:49.42 | Monet | Oh not that sort of security. |
| 20:50.32 | Wormy_ | I would love to play old adventures again for nostalgic purposes. |
| 20:50.33 | Monet | Windows 10 comes with a -lot- of data collecting stuff. You can opt out of all but the most essential. |
| 20:50.47 | Technobliterator | oh |
| 20:50.51 | Ghelae | IIRC Spore was patched so you get five installations. |
| 20:50.52 | Technobliterator | meh, I'm fine with that then |
| 20:50.56 | Wormy_ | I think that essential stuff was the same as with Win8 as well |
| 20:51.23 | Wormy_ | Okay, I should be fine then |
| 20:51.35 | Monet | The essential stuff is how well the OS is performing on your PC - and your identity is kept anonymous. |
| 20:51.51 | The_Randomness | Monet: but muh privacy |
| 20:52.09 | Ghelae | But if you ever change your computer, using the Spore deauthorisation tool would be good practice. |
| 20:52.09 | Monet | The_Randomness: Google. |
| 20:52.26 | The_Randomness | Monet: I know what you're talking about. It's ridiculous what some people believe about this stuff |
| 20:52.28 | Ghelae | Unless your problem is that the computer just dies, which is what happened to me several years ago. |
| 20:52.50 | Monet | I don't know how Mac is virus-free but I assume Linux is virus-free because its too niche for Linux-compatible viruses to be viable. |
| 20:53.06 | Technobliterator | Mac is also niche |
| 20:53.23 | Technobliterator | But they're also both designed to be more resistant to viruses |
| 20:54.01 | Monet | And Windows is used by the DoD, MI5, Congress, NORAD etc. |
| 20:54.12 | Wormy_ | If my PC died, Spore would probably be at the back of my mind lol. |
| 20:55.33 | Tek0516 | Oh yeah, I need to do the Windows 10 upgrade this week I guess. |
| 20:55.46 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Yeah you had a lot and I played them all |
| 20:55.49 | Imperios | Mostly to level my captains |
| 20:55.52 | Imperios | Battle against Spode etc |
| 20:56.11 | Monet | Linux is just too niche for creating viruses for it to have any practical benefit. |
| 20:56.40 | Technobliterator | The only Linux viruses created are Android ones |
| 20:57.04 | Imperios | Monet Wormy_: I like how it took two Asians that literally live on the opposite sides of the planet less time to meet than two Brits that basically live next door |
| 20:57.16 | OluapPlayer | Imperios: I just knew you were gonna mention that one |
| 20:57.35 | Imperios | Well not only it |
| 20:57.41 | Imperios | There was also the ones with Errr |
| 20:57.58 | Imperios | Oh this reminds me |
| 20:58.04 | Wormy_ | Imperios: That's true. And to make matters worse 2 of us had years of opportunity to meet |
| 20:58.11 | PrimisBack | bbl |
| 20:58.12 | PrimisBack | osh |
| 20:58.14 | PrimisBack | ish* |
| 20:58.18 | OluapPlayer | I replayed that one |
| 20:59.30 | Monet | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/3/3b/NBC_Radiant_Carrier.png/revision/latest?cb=20160722205855 have something for the Bongs to carry their fighters in. |
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| 20:59.35 | OluapPlayer_ | Goddamnit |
| 20:59.37 | Wormy_ | Imperios: Though remember, British perception of the island is that it is a huge place |
| 20:59.40 | OluapPlayer_ | Probably my favorites are these two adventures meant to complement one another. In one you defend a city against the Marinox. In the other, you are sided with the Marinox instead |
| 21:00.03 | Wormy_ | Imperios: being on opposite sides of a city feels very far indeed |
| 21:00.03 | Imperios | #TeamMarinox |
| 21:00.17 | Imperios | Wormy_: Aye I can relate |
| 21:00.34 | OluapPlayer_ | Did you say something? Because I might have not seen it |
| 21:00.38 | Imperios | I used to live in the far north and Alyona closer to the South |
| 21:01.07 | Imperios | THis reminds me |
| 21:01.27 | Imperios | OIuapPlayer_ Xho Monet Wormy_: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/268346544575548666/C5BC60F5C2B16A11695B1F5BAC5D143BFFD1FD5E/ Look what I found in Stellaris |
| 21:01.45 | The_Randomness | I found the Gorf in one of my games as well :P |
| 21:01.52 | OluapPlayer_ | Took me a secnd |
| 21:01.57 | Xho | wut |
| 21:01.57 | Wormy_ | The biggest reminder for me, living nearly in the centre of England is when I smell the sea carried by breeze |
| 21:02.03 | OluapPlayer_ | I actually made three adventures centered around Gorf |
| 21:02.08 | OluapPlayer_ | Two of them, you controlled him |
| 21:02.18 | Imperios | Xho: Read the only English words in this entire tex |
| 21:02.20 | Imperios | t |
| 21:02.38 | Imperios | Wormy_: I wonder. How long does it take to travel through England and/or the UK by train? |
| 21:02.40 | Xho | I saw |
| 21:02.42 | Xho | Still wut |
| 21:02.43 | Imperios | Like, from notth to South |
| 21:02.46 | Technobliterator | It's very quick |
| 21:02.48 | Technobliterator | Like, a couple hours? |
| 21:02.52 | OluapPlayer_ | One of them was Christmas-themed and you had to find presents to a bunch of creatures |
| 21:03.06 | OluapPlayer_ | And it was a fucking CHORE because Gorf only has 1 speed |
| 21:03.13 | Monet | Depends on where you are, yeah. |
| 21:03.20 | Imperios | Wow |
| 21:03.21 | Imperios | Really? |
| 21:03.24 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 21:03.34 | Technobliterator | It normally takes me about 2 hours to get from Birmingham to London, for instance |
| 21:03.35 | Monet | Took me about 3 hours to reach Nottingham from Kent. |
| 21:03.41 | Wormy_ | Midlands to London, 3 hours. 5 or 6 to Wales or the far North of England. And from London, a day or two travel by car to the far north of Scotland |
| 21:03.50 | Imperios | You guys must have a while diferent sense of distance |
| 21:04.02 | OluapPlayer_ | Almost everything I've used in adventures, I've put on the wiki |
| 21:04.04 | Wormy_ | 100 miles feels like a long way |
| 21:04.06 | Technobliterator | absolutely |
| 21:04.18 | Imperios | It takes 4 hours, by the fastest train in the whole mother Russia, to get from Saint-Petersburg to Moscow |
| 21:04.22 | Technobliterator | I'm going to need to adjust so much when I move out : | |
| 21:04.48 | Monet | Technobliterator: Can you drive? |
| 21:04.49 | Imperios | We used to travel to the Caucasus every summer |
| 21:05.20 | Imperios | It took us three days |
| 21:05.29 | Imperios | I remember sleeping in the train as a kid |
| 21:05.31 | OluapPlayer_ | I hate it how often I wrote "You was" in these descriptions |
| 21:05.31 | Imperios | ~ |
| 21:05.36 | OluapPlayer_ | Stupid young Oluap |
| 21:06.10 | Monet | Technobliterator: 389 miles between LA and SF. |
| 21:06.32 | Technobliterator | Can't drive, nope |
| 21:07.00 | Imperios | So I take you don't have these cozy trains where you get to sleep and drink tea and all that? |
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| 21:07.29 | Wormy__ | I think the change in the landscale, local culture and dialect helps. Also our windy roads if one isn't on the motorway or train can make journeys through the North, Wales or Scotland more lengthy. |
| 21:07.34 | Wormy__ | There is a lot of small islands around the UK at least, to explore. I once heard if put edge by edge they could stretch to Australia |
| 21:07.46 | Monet | Sleep? Not really. Unless you're booking the Flying Scotsman to Edinburgh or something. |
| 21:07.51 | Technobliterator | ^ |
| 21:08.45 | Monet | Technobliterator: http://thesolutionsjournal.org/sites/default/files/Pers_Mykleby_Figure2.jpg my mind is blown at the scale. |
| 21:09.03 | Technobliterator | woooow |
| 21:09.05 | Technobliterator | That's insane |
| 21:09.36 | Wormy__ | I'd like to travel on the Trans-Siberian railway http://www.seat61.com/images/Trans-Siberian-map.jpg |
| 21:09.40 | Monet | "Welcome to Los Angeles. Can't drive? Well too bad loser" |
| 21:09.55 | Technobliterator | hahaha |
| 21:09.56 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 21:10.00 | Technobliterator | seems like it |
| 21:10.21 | Technobliterator | I have to admit, I did think the London tubes was surprisingly easy to navigate when I last went |
| 21:10.53 | Monet | Apart from the occasional areas that smell like petrol, I love the Underground. |
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| 21:11.39 | Wormy_ | I once got very confused in Edinburgh station |
| 21:11.44 | Monet | I love how pretty much everything is within walking distance of a tube station. |
| 21:12.01 | Imperios | Wormy__: My mother traveled a lot, I think she was in Siberia |
| 21:12.30 | Imperios | She was born in the Ural Mountains, then lived for a while in the polar regions of Russia, then in Novgorod |
| 21:12.56 | Wormy_ | awesome |
| 21:13.31 | Wormy_ | Yeah my dad used to travel around the Middle East, India, China etc, and then took that railway through Siberia |
| 21:13.43 | OluapPlayer_ | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/04/Troglodyte.png/revision/latest?cb=20160722184643 i've also made a caveman |
| 21:15.41 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Pretty good human model. |
| 21:15.53 | Monet | Love the work on the face. |
| 21:15.54 | OluapPlayer_ | It's Imperios's |
| 21:15.58 | Monet | Oh |
| 21:16.11 | OluapPlayer_ | I definitely couldn't make something that good |
| 21:17.44 | Monet | I don't see much of the bad side of the Underground, but that might be because I rarely go beyond zone 1. |
| 21:18.05 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Oooh what's the backstory behind these? |
| 21:18.33 | OluapPlayer_ | They're a minor Slumbering Lands race |
| 21:18.57 | OluapPlayer_ | Made them because Dwarf Fortress has troglodytes in it and they like to harass my dwarves a lot |
| 21:20.06 | Xho | Karkavarnir - body goals are unrealistic here |
| 21:20.19 | Imperios | Dem cavemen |
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| 21:20.58 | OluapPlayer | Jesus christ stop |
| 21:21.03 | Monet | Could try a touch more ugg. |
| 21:21.21 | OluapPlayer | So as I was saying they're a minor race I made because of Dwarf Fortress |
| 21:21.31 | Xho | Karkavarnir - body goals are unrealistic here |
| 21:21.55 | OluapPlayer | I've had forts constantly intruded by hordes of troglodytes who would start punching civilians at random |
| 21:23.13 | OluapPlayer | The fact they're isolated in Dinosaur Island probably makes them unrelated to other human races |
| 21:23.18 | OluapPlayer | Distance too big |
| 21:26.54 | Monet | http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzAyWDEyNDg=/z/L1AAAOSwXSJXOa4~/$_3.JPG?set_id=2 I still can't believe this was approved |
| 21:27.34 | OluapPlayer | dat tongue |
| 21:28.37 | Monet | I just... |
| 21:28.50 | Wormy_ | I actually think... I remember that. |
| 21:29.00 | Monet | I'm just lost for words. |
| 21:29.20 | OluapPlayer | Jar Jar's decapitated screaming head |
| 21:29.23 | OluapPlayer | perfect for children |
| 21:30.17 | Monet | Whose tongue you can eat like a lollu. |
| 21:30.30 | Monet | lolly* |
| 21:31.30 | PrimAway | what |
| 21:31.31 | PrimAway | the |
| 21:31.34 | PrimAway | legitimate |
| 21:31.39 | PrimAway | fish |
| 21:31.40 | Wormy_ | Not as bad as http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/436379/Spongebob#d33b3c_572061 https://frenchyshouseparty.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/spongebobrectal21.jpg |
| 21:32.08 | PrimAway | dammit |
| 21:32.20 | PrimAway | violently explodes |
| 21:34.22 | Wormy_ | Monet https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/cc/33/28/cc3328bf80ec028a5c1f2ee43f7b65c7.jpg |
| 21:35.07 | OluapPlayer | Hmm what to do nw |
| 21:35.44 | Monet | Wormy_: My eyes! |
| 21:38.41 | Wormy_ | I think I'm going to make my announcement regarding fiction tomorrow. Reason is I might to canonise events that could apply to more than just my fiction. |
| 21:38.51 | Wormy_ | *I might need to |
| 21:39.51 | DrodoEmpire | Okay |
| 21:40.28 | Wormy_ | But I can write up a draft page and progress it based on such input from the community when required to do so |
| 21:41.23 | Wormy_ | Then I don't have to worry about writing fiction after fiction in elaborate detail and dialogue, nor feel bad for never doing said fics |
| 21:42.15 | OluapPlayer | You're lucky we're not close enough for me to nag you |
| 21:42.15 | Wormy_ | And then I can write fiction in the short bursts of spontaneity which is actually how I write, based on bits along the timeline |
| 21:44.05 | OluapPlayer | Oh fuck off |
| 21:44.10 | Wormy_ | I might need a good nag to give me the kick required |
| 21:44.12 | OluapPlayer | Spore crashing before I saved a creature |
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| 22:04.41 | Monet | If anyone is up for it, I'm going to stream in 10 minutes http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-HAPiE_EwqQ-45QRbCl4Nw/live |
| 22:09.58 | Wormy_ | Currently practising my Python skills since my Msc will be be based on that language |
| 22:10.28 | Monet | No problem |
| 22:27.36 | ImpyDroid | Monet Wormy_: http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2014/03/13/the-predictive-results-for-typing-county-into-google/ topkek |
| 22:28.58 | Xho | Monet: You do know it's still on standby right |
| 22:29.14 | Monet | Shit |
| 22:29.32 | Wormy_ | "Birmingham, its a dump" |
| 22:29.38 | Wormy_ | "Nottinghamshire is better than Derbyshire" |
| 22:29.41 | Wormy_ | RAGES |
| 22:32.02 | Wormy_ | ImpyDroid I've never actually heard of the county of Tyne and Wear |
| 22:32.08 | Wormy_ | Which is weird |
| 22:32.45 | Wormy_ | Think I woke up in the wrong universe today, or maybe its a symptom of the illusion of size |
| 22:34.44 | Monet | Xho: Thank you |
| 22:39.46 | Wormy_ | Mon: Will this project get you to use your architectural knowledge? |
| 22:40.04 | Monet | Possibly not |
| 22:41.55 | Wormy_ | the 1930's futurist city layout looked rigid as you mention |
| 22:48.57 | ImpyDroid | Wormy_ Monet: http://treasure.diylol.com/uploads/post/image/305565/resized_lion-king-meme-generator-look-simba-everything-the-light-touches-is-england-that-is-essex-you-should-never-go-there-e96c86.jpg |
| 22:49.30 | Monet | Essex has some okay places |
| 22:49.36 | Monet | East Anglia however... |
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| 22:50.07 | Charles_Bot | Huh |
| 22:50.21 | Charles_Bot | There's military and police everywhere in the area of DC I am |
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| 23:08.38 | Quark8|Away | Hello. |
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| 23:20.33 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 23:21.05 | The_Randomness | wb |
| 23:24.22 | Wormy_ | My internet is being really flunky tonight so I don't know how connected I will stay. |
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| 23:48.35 | Charles_Bot | Monet DrodoEmpire : One of The Guardian's headlines this morning was "Argentina's disappeared" |
| 23:48.39 | Charles_Bot | I was really confused |
| 23:53.49 | DrodoEmpire | wot |
| 23:54.09 | The_Randomness | Charles_Bot: Now I'm confused |
| 23:54.09 | Monet | Maybe there's more in the article itself |
| 23:54.38 | Charles_Bot | It's the possessive |
| 23:55.09 | Monet | Okay I get it now |
| 23:55.36 | The_Randomness | ooooh |
| 23:55.47 | Monet | It's an article on the hundreds of people who 'disappeared' during the country's period as a dictatorship. |
| 23:56.02 | The_Randomness | I've heard about that, and that's some pretty nasty stuff right there |
| 23:57.31 | The_Randomness | But beyond hearing about it, I don't really know anything about it |
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