IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160716

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00:29.48Wormy_I think the coup might have been defeated, or is on the retreat
00:30.15Wormy_State media was back on air
00:30.29Quark8|BusyYeah.
00:30.35Quark8|BusyParliament was bombed, though.
00:31.18Spluff5Wait, what!?
00:31.32Quark8|BusyThere was a coup in Turkey.
00:32.07DrodoEmpireBombed by what?
00:32.17DrodoEmpireAn IED? Artillery?
00:33.23Quark8|BusyI'm not sure yet.
00:33.51Quark8|BusyI'm looking, and it says it was from the air.
00:36.29Quark8What are the opinions of you all on the coup d'état?
00:37.31Liquid_InkI don't approve of military coups, but at the same time, Erdogan being shanked can't be a bad thing.
00:38.20Quark8That is my opinion as well.
00:40.37Quark8Were a peaceful coup possible, I would like to see Erdogan shanky-shanked.
00:40.37Wormy_Not sure what to think, don't like military coups, don't like Erdogan.
00:41.29Wormy_It certainly isn't one, I'm getting unclear reports and footage of civilians being fired at
00:41.32DrodoEmpireI don't support political violence of any sort or stripe :p
00:41.39TybusenGiven Turkey's history with coups and the fact that Erdogan is a massive asshole I was hoping the coup was going to succeed tbh
00:41.50DrodoEmpireEhh yeah maybe
00:42.03DrodoEmpireBut military governments tend to overstay their welcome at the same time
00:42.27Wormy_like Thailand
00:42.38DrodoEmpire^\
00:42.40DrodoEmpirePrecisely
00:42.45TybusenTrue but also Turkey has pretty much had a tradition of coups every decade or so since Ataturk kicked the bucket
00:43.16TybusenTurkish military coups are a little different from coups in other countries since the Turkish military operates a little differently
00:43.52Wormy_That being said, if a democratic nation was being attacked by one that isn't, nearly everyone who supports democracy would support the democratic nation's right to defend itself.  But what happens when a\ country's democracy is decaying?
00:44.01DrodoEmpireI'm sure military coups are a celebrated tradition of the Turkish people. XD But at the same time, I... Really just hope this has a stable resolution
00:44.09DrodoEmpireThere's not enough info to say
00:44.40TybusenThe worst resolution to this is that Erdogan uses the incident as an excuse to consolidate his power
00:45.17TybusenBest resolution imo would be that the coup succeeds and the cycle of Turkish history continues as normal
00:45.39Quark8^
00:46.38Tybusen2016 has been a weird year
00:46.57Quark8But I would like to have the military's stay as short as possible.
00:47.02Wormy_I think the decade has
00:47.32TybusenQuark8: I'm pretty sure most of the Turkish military governments have been short-lived
00:48.25Quark8True. The 1980 coup lasted for only three years.
00:49.00Wormy_Soldiers have taken over CNN Turk, so its difficult to say who is winning still
00:49.20Wormy_Both sides declare they are
00:50.05Tybusen1960 coup lasted for five years, 1971 coup didn't last long either
00:50.24Quark8Erdogan's plane landed in Istanbul.
00:51.47Quark8CNN Turk has been taken off the air now.
00:53.18Wormy_https://twitter.com/hashtag/Turkey?src=tren
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00:57.18Quark8"Soldiers 'lay down arms at Istanbul square'" - http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-36811357
00:57.25Quark8Hello Charles.
00:57.27Charles_MurrayWell holy fucking shit
00:57.58Quark8Yep.
00:58.17TybusenYou also have to wonder if Erdogan would try to run a false-flag coup to consolidate his power
00:58.43Quark8I can see that happening.
00:59.01Charles_MurrayToo risky
00:59.22Charles_MurrayWaaay too risky, given the history of coups, NATO, and public opinion
01:00.11TybusenThe Turkish military has generally been pretty good at this coup business so I'm not sure what's going wrong
01:00.16CyrannianNight folks
01:00.19Wormy_https://twitter.com/RamiAILoIah/status/754108899649810435
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01:00.45Charles_MurrayTybusen : A lot's changed in 37 years
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01:01.28Wormy_I think it really is a faction/s in the Turkish military, not the whole thing
01:02.11TybusenIt's worrying what will happen if the coup fails, since in Turkey the military has always been the biggest counter to executive overreach
01:02.31Charles_MurrayTypical PS answers I can give you are the influence of foreign media, social media, the decentralization of information, and the inability of the state to shut off civil society with just a few buttons
01:03.25Wormy_live https://www.facebook.com/cnnturk/
01:03.36TybusenAnd I suppose there's also the fact that Erdogan isn't quite as unpopular within Turkey as he is outside of it
01:06.52Charles_Murraytest
01:06.55Wormy_something happening on cnn Turk right now
01:06.56Quark8It seems to be that the coup is not succeeding.
01:07.07Charles_MurrayWormy_ yeah, that's old news
01:07.16Charles_MurrayWe don't know, it's too early to tell
01:07.24Wormy_its live, that stream
01:07.58Quark8Is it just me, or is that stream a black screen?
01:08.15Quark8nvm
01:12.47Charles_MurrayBut coups are won or lost within the first couple of hours. It's a bad sign that it's taken them so long; they aren't in control of enough state assets by this point in the timeline.
01:13.31Wormy_Yeah
01:13.49Quark8^
01:14.21Charles_MurrayBy the time other actors are able to react, ascertain the situation, and bring their own freedom of action to bear, the coup should already be over, a fait accomplit
01:15.44Wormy_There's been fighting within the military itself, a plane of the loyal faction shot down a helicopter of the coup faction.  Sounds like it was a splinter group that perhaps didn't have enough men and vehicles to seize control of assets and enact the curfew.  The chaos has allowed armed police to mobilise against them
01:17.25DrodoEmpireSo the situation's rapidly escalating?
01:17.40DrodoEmpireI mean, this sounds like its coming close to a full-on street batt;e
01:17.42DrodoEmpire*battle
01:17.45Charles_MurrayNot exactly
01:19.36Charles_MurrayDifferent forces are shooting at each other and posturing (also arresting each other when they can), so it's escalated to the point that these factions are wrestling over control of the state through force of arms on somewhat stable terms of engagement
01:19.44Charles_MurrayWhen the game changes, that's escalation
01:20.01DrodoEmpireFair enough
01:21.53Charles_Murray"It seems like these people [a group of protesters] control a bulldozer, no idea what they plan to do with it"
01:22.00Charles_Murray"Now it seems like they control a tank"
01:22.12Charles_MurrayWell, -that- escalated quickly lol
01:22.25Quark8Lol.
01:22.30DrodoEmpireChrist almighty
01:22.31DrodoEmpire>.<
01:23.49Charles_MurrayBack at the mission we were six interns in the press room glued to the TV, and I had 4 different news streams open on the Mac
01:24.18Quark8Mission?
01:25.19Charles_MurrayFrench Mission to the UN
01:25.38Quark8Ok.
01:28.51Charles_MurrayHnnng
01:28.59Charles_MurrayIt's impossible to know who has the stronger hand at the moment
01:29.09Charles_MurrayI don't think even they know
01:29.45Wormy_^
01:30.25The_RandomnessAnd then here I am, just playing videogames and thinking about collabverse stuff
01:31.00Quark8What video game?
01:31.06Charles_MurrayEh, I'm more interested in the coup as a case study as to how coups unfold
01:31.22Charles_MurrayActually watching the nitty gritty of the thing is pointless otherwise
01:31.25The_RandomnessWell, I'm just playing Minecraft right now while I wait for somebody to get back so then I can do some stuff in FFXIV
01:31.28Charles_MurrayYou'll know the result tomorrow
01:32.15Charles_MurraySame as us really
01:32.15The_Randomnessright
01:32.30DrodoEmpire"mahn        yor retarded" French people are almost as toxic as Russians when it comes to CS:GO <.<
01:32.42DrodoEmpire"Uh mai gud     keek     go keek (him)"
01:33.16DrodoEmpireEuropeans in general actually are pretty competitive now that I think of it >.<
01:33.24DrodoEmpireOn CS:GO that is
01:33.26TybusenTurkish State TV tomorrow: "It seems like we finally have a winner of this year's National Military Coup! But first let's remind our contestants of the fabulous prizes they'll receive for their participation!"
01:33.36DrodoEmpireolol
01:33.40The_Randomness*canned applause*
01:33.46Quark8heh
01:34.23Tybusen"For the last place contender, you get the lovely consolation prize of an all-expense paid trip to beautiful... Aleppo!"
01:34.37DrodoEmpirelul
01:34.38Charles_MurrayPffffffffff
01:34.58Charles_Murray;)
01:38.04Charles_MurrayThe coup so far has lost control of the Istanbul airport, of CNN Turk headquarters, and most critically, Edrogen
01:38.29Charles_MurrayAlso public support from the looks of it
01:38.48TybusenNot looking good at this point
01:38.52DrodoEmpireOWA MEN ARE RUNNING FROM THE BATTLEFIELD
01:38.58DrodoEmpireSHAMEFUR DISPRAY
01:39.23Charles_Murraykek
01:39.43Charles_MurrayI've been hearing of coup soldiers surrendering to government forces, but in isolation that doesn't mean anything
01:40.02DrodoEmpireThat's to be expected yeah
01:40.06TybusenWe all know what will likely happen if Erdogan manages to seize back control of the country
01:42.16Wormy_8/8 best website http://ismycomputeronfire.com/
01:42.28Wormy_http://ismycomputeron.com/
01:42.40DrodoEmpireThanks ismycomputeronfire.com
01:43.02TybusenMcAfee told me that "ismycomputeronfire.com exhibits risky behavior"
01:43.35DrodoEmpire*load up the site*   *displays "YES"*    *computer bursts in to flames*
01:43.49DrodoEmpireDamn shocker sites <.<
01:44.20TybusenCan't trust sites like that
01:44.24TybusenI've been burned before
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01:45.06Wormy_Yuck McAfee, it was probably that that burned your computer.
01:45.16The_Randomnesshttps://isitchristmas.com/
01:46.09Quark8That better update when Christmas comes.
01:46.19The_RandomnessIt does, I can confirm
01:46.25Wormy_Judging the source code, I think it does.
01:47.01Quark8Yay.
01:47.42DrodoEmpireIts bilingual too
01:47.46DrodoEmpireClearly a Canadian site
01:47.46DrodoEmpire<.<
01:48.02The_Randomnesslol
01:48.25DrodoEmpireAlso- this one channel just can't. Get. A. Break.
01:49.15Quark8Which chanel?
01:49.19Quark8*channel
01:49.37DrodoEmpireCS:GO News is a channel about CS:GO- *consistently* has like a 50/50 66/34 like/dislike ratio for some reason, even on a video about- get this- a *500$ giveaway*
01:49.46DrodoEmpirehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FXEUgDOlSs
01:50.04DrodoEmpireGiving away five rare knives to his fans, still hate him. >.<
01:50.14The_Randomnesso_o
01:50.21Quark8O_O
01:50.48The_RandomnessI rarely see videos with that sort of like/dislike ratio unless it's actually a bad video or something
01:50.56DrodoEmpireI know
01:51.12The_Randomnessor about something people don't like talking about, or are stupid about
01:51.15DrodoEmpireI mean, at least I hear he's a bit underqualified in terms of his rank on CS:GO and he misreports sometimes
01:51.21DrodoEmpireBut *really*? >.<
01:51.33DrodoEmpireAt least he tries, and he's a goddamn saint to give away that much
01:53.19The_RandomnessThat doesn't matter to shitlords on the internet >_>
01:53.35DrodoEmpireYeah it seems like people just find reasons to hate this guy
01:57.13Wormy_goodnight
02:22.29DrodoEmpirehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OannkD2aBvM me irl
02:24.32Quark8That's really you?
02:25.46DrodoEmpireNo XD
02:26.46Quark8Oh ok.
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02:28.14The_Randomnesswb
02:28.19Charles_MurrayI come back from dinner and the Turkish coup is over
02:28.21Charles_MurrayTy
02:28.33The_RandomnessHow did it conclude?
02:28.35Charles_MurrayWell gents, it looks like we missed our encounter with history
02:28.45DrodoEmpireHmm?
02:29.02Charles_Murray"130 pro-coup military officers are in custody, a general is dead"
02:29.38DrodoEmpireOh wow
02:29.47Charles_MurrayAccording to the Prime Minister, and international airports have a timeline as to when they'll be operational again
02:29.58DrodoEmpireSo that concludes that episode
02:30.59Charles_MurrayAye
02:35.29Quark8I remember my vacation to Turkey. It was quite fun, and there were no coups.
02:36.14The_Randomness:P
02:37.17Quark8However, I would like to go back. I only spent two to three days there before going back to the States.
02:43.07The_Randomnessok, my turn to shitpost http://i.imgur.com/mWcGtgd.png
02:43.50Quark8hehe
02:43.53DrodoEmpireayy lmao
02:44.20Quark8I've never watched SpongeBob SquarePants.
02:45.43DrodoEmpireI loved it when I was little
02:45.49Quark8There's a mushroom named after the character - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spongiforma_squarepantsii
02:45.57The_Randomnessheh
02:46.58Quark8My parents discouraged the practice of watching SpongeBob SquarePants, so I watched the news instead as a child.
02:47.09DrodoEmpireOdd :p
02:48.27DrodoEmpire"Now there is one question that hasn't been answered by military historians- what is the difference between the thug life and the STuG life?"
02:48.41The_RandomnessI don't get it
02:48.53DrodoEmpirehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFXZcC1xZnI
02:49.05The_Randomness:P
02:49.38DrodoEmpire"Stug" being the nickname for an assault gun used by Nazi Germany
02:50.03The_Randomnessright
02:51.09The_RandomnessSo, here's the damage from the Turkish parliament building getting bombed https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CndBYKZXYAIzQ2r.jpg
02:51.33DrodoEmpireYikes
02:51.40Quark8Eep.
02:54.21DrodoEmpiretest
02:54.36Quark834%.
02:54.54Quark8Forgot to capitalize and add a period. Sorry Drodo.
03:04.26DrodoEmpiretesting
03:14.40Quark8Eck. I was playing War Thunder and I bombed my ally on the airfield, after shooting him.
03:14.47Quark8It was an accident, of course.
03:16.11ImpyDroidCharles_Bot: KEBAB REMOVES ITSELF
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04:02.05Quark8G'night.
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04:23.01Quark8Hello.
04:24.06The_Randomnesswb
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05:32.53Quark8Hello Liquid Ink.
05:34.45Liquid_InkHey
06:02.42DrodoEmpire"The wonderful thing about pickles, is that pickles are wonderful things."
06:04.55Quark8They are quite tasty.
06:30.11Quark8Night.
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07:01.32GhelaeHello.
07:01.41The_RandomnessHello
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07:29.22Spluff5I'm having trouble inserting a movie into my page.
07:37.03GhelaeSpluff5: What code are you adding?
07:39.33GhelaeOr, what's happening when you try to add the file?
07:40.39Spluff5I'm using the add features and media section
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15:31.48ImpyAndroidHi
15:31.52ImpyAndroidHachiman Xho: https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRO_dXZTY_pBikoSKpkWBfhdqdc_zN9LAXPetTlHfyr5nvpVERnNQ&reload=on
15:32.03Xhoburn
15:34.08ImpyAndroidAre vapers common in the UK too?
15:34.49XhoVery
15:35.38MonetIts taken the country by storm
15:36.15Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13754570_1761910374092839_4322551945643565920_n.jpg?oh=56d6d11670c781b9101f925e8dae8d9b&oe=57EAE6A9
15:39.20ImpyAndroidAh yes
15:39.20ImpyAndroidKEBAB REMOVES ITSELF
15:44.25HachimanExcept it didn't hur
15:44.53HachimanThe coup was resolved and the remaining traitors are being rounded up
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15:48.20MonetSo have both sides stopped reporting they're winning?
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15:49.06HachimanThink so
15:49.27ImpyAndroidSo yes kebab (Erdogan) removes itself (military)
15:49.33HachimanAs far as I am aware, the Turkish government has claimed that the coup failed
15:49.36ImpyAndroidAll in all though that pretty much cements Turkey becoming Islamist
15:50.11ImpyAndroidThe rebels fled to Greece
15:50.39HachimanAlso Imp, what would a werewolf equivalent be in the Tropical Lands
15:50.45HachimanLike, instead of a wolf
15:50.46ImpyAndroidWerejaguar
15:50.56ImpyAndroidAt least for the Freelands
15:51.01ImpyAndroidAnd the area around them
15:51.24ImpyAndroidOr
15:51.26ImpyAndroidHm
15:51.48ImpyAndroidJaguar was the first thought but maybe like some sort of tropical canine
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15:52.04ImpyAndroidUnfortunately the only tropical area canine I can think of is chihuahuas
15:52.10Hachimanhur
15:52.34HachimanI was thinking of making a dwarven character from the Tropical Lands who's also a werething
15:53.11MonetWerepanthers plz
15:53.13HachimanAnd I am wondering what would be appropriate as both a dwarf and a resident of the Tropical Lands
15:53.43ImpyAndroidWerespider
15:53.48ImpyAndroidSome sort of toxic spider
15:54.30HachimanWhy a spider hur
15:54.42MonetUnderground
15:55.22HachimanHm
15:55.43HachimanSo wait
15:56.26HachimanDwarf gets bit by supernatural toxic spider creature and gets arachnothropy from its venom, begins exemplifying powers exhibited by spiders
15:56.50HachimanIt's fucking Spider-Dwarf
15:57.16MonetProbably closer to Dwarf-Spider.
15:58.51Wormy_awayCavendish wins again
15:59.07Xhohttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/elderscrolls/images/c/cf/Aicantars_Spider.png/revision/latest?cb=20141005033225 motherfucker
16:00.05DrodoAwaytest
16:01.17ImpyAndroidActually since Khargrim live in the tropics
16:01.21ImpyAndroidAnd in the mountains
16:01.24Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:An_Eye_for_An_Eye high impact kicathian violence
16:01.27ImpyAndroid...Gurkhargrim?
16:04.42MonetOKay... http://s3.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/0/8/2/560082_v1.jpg this is so funny and true it's just...what?
16:05.10OluapPlayerit's a pro technic
16:05.52MonetThis could easily be a mocap/animation oversight.
16:06.30DrodoEmpire10/10 aiming
16:06.44OluapPlayerXho: Mu - who is dis kid
16:07.04XhoLambda - a spy
16:07.19OluapPlayerMu - SPOI
16:08.22XhoSo I bashed my knee into a doorframe earlier
16:08.26XhoIt really fucking hurts
16:08.59OluapPlayerOuch
16:09.04MonetI don't know if it's a muth or not (probably is) but I hear the kneecap's one of the only bones that doesn't fully repair itself.
16:09.04OluapPlayerI know that feel
16:09.22Monethttp://s3.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/1/7/4/560174_v1.gif this logic's my favourite
16:09.37XhoThat's most RPGs
16:09.53OluapPlayerThe misfortunes of being an NPC
16:10.10MonetYes but in Geralt's case he is *specifically bred* to be superior.
16:10.11XhoSkyrim - dragon killing maniac              peasants still attack you
16:10.25OluapPlayercity guards are stronger than the dragons
16:10.41Xhonot when ur level 80
16:10.45XhoOr maybe I dunno
16:11.07XhoMy characters generally invest into trying to kill everything in one hit
16:11.09OluapPlayerOne of the more memorable moments when I played that game was a city guard sync-killing a dragon
16:11.16MonetAs a Witcher he's faster, stronger, and much more resistant to pain than normies. He can also use healing tonics that are outright lethal to normal people.
16:11.27OluapPlayerThen when he was done he came back to the usual city guard banter
16:11.41XhoGTA V cops are the most badass NPCs
16:11.46XhoThey do not stop
16:12.02OluapPlayerSTOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM, modern edition
16:12.22MonetAnd yet every inbred Peasant and his brother think it's a good idea to pick on the gruff, heavily armed, spooky-eyed outsider who just handed a troll's head to the mayor.
16:12.41MonetThinks they can beat hi mi na punch-up
16:12.42HachimanBecause he's different and he deserves shit for being different
16:12.45HachimanAnd also peasants are stupid
16:12.57OluapPlayerYes actually that's exactly how it is
16:13.47MonetI admit one thing I do enjoy in the Witcher games is how brain-deficient all the peasants are
16:14.17HachimanThat's how most real world peasants are
16:14.20MonetLike one group in Flotsam in 2 who discuss "what do witchers eat?" to which one replies "spuds"
16:14.23HachimanWere, I mean
16:14.38OluapPlayerSAY SOMETHIN'? OR DID YOU JUST FART?
16:15.16MonetOluapPlayer: *hocking loudly for a really massive spit*
16:15.33OluapPlayerThe one that will forever be in my mind however
16:15.36OluapPlayerOOOOOOOOODRIIIIIIIIIIIIIN
16:16.13MonetActually yeah that's another thing
16:16.52MonetIn most games the peasants sound moronic while the guards, in most cases at least, sound a *little* more refined.
16:17.17MonetLike they're unlikely to suddenly scream "OOOOHHH ARRRR"
16:17.27OluapPlayerOnly a little. They're not that clever either
16:17.48DrodoEmpirePeasants lacked education- they weren't stupid by their nature
16:17.50MonetGuards in Witcher - again which I like - sound just as dumb as the peasants.
16:17.51DrodoEmpireSome were of course
16:18.05DrodoEmpireBut it wasn't an inherent trait anymore than it is with people today >.<
16:18.36HachimanMost people who are stupid are stupid by nature and cannot be helped
16:18.40Hachiman:p
16:18.47OluapPlayerle emoji face
16:18.48MonetIt may not be true, no, but it's entertaining.
16:18.57DrodoEmpireYeah its an amusing stereotype
16:19.03OluapPlayerWitcher peasants are also raised in a society that condones racism
16:19.43Hachimanyeh but so r u
16:20.14OluapPlayerwat
16:20.25HachimanAlso I think I've settled on werepanther for the dwarf
16:21.01MonetThe Northern Kingdoms seem about as racist as Medieval Europe was.
16:21.25DrodoEmpireMost premodern societies tended to be pretty tribalistic
16:22.27MonetAnd Nilfgaard was was as accepting as Ancient Rome was, or maybe the Byzantine Empire.
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16:22.53ImpyAndroidSo I go to Kremlin and hear loud as fuck rave music
16:22.54ImpyAndroidThe fuck
16:23.17Monet"Russia is being modern Western country."
16:28.35MonetMaybe the Peasants in Witcher have mouthy Chav child logic?
16:28.59Spluff5I added a video to my page.
16:29.06Spluff5Tell me what you guys think
16:29.19Spluff5http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Sanurans
16:29.28Monet"Dude you suck, I know you could beat the shit out of me but if you do then I'll tell on you to the government"
16:33.47MonetAnd I guess even Geralt will struggle if the entire village decides to shank him as a stabby mob.
16:36.51OluapPlayerHis first death happened when he got stabbed by a peasant with a pitchfork iirc
16:37.59MonetBandits I can understand why they'd attack him because they tend to be armed, in groups and in either camps or ambush points.
16:38.07DrodoEmpireI find the whole idea that a peasant would use farm equipment as a weapon bizarre. :p
16:38.16MonetWhile Geralt is generally o nhis own.
16:38.21DrodoEmpireIn England especially, all men were supposed to have a weapon
16:39.20MonetIt might be it comes with the stereotype.
16:39.34DrodoEmpireIn the late middle ages especially, weapons were also dirt-cheap due to the plague killing some two-thirds of all Europeans and with them a lot of weapon-owners
16:39.40DrodoEmpireSo it was pretty cheap to buy an old sword
16:39.42OluapPlayerThere was a massacre going on
16:39.42Monet"He's a peasant, so he's poor. Too poor to afford a proper weapon"
16:39.48DrodoEmpireYeah it might be
16:39.52OluapPlayerPeople were defending themselves with what they had in hand
16:39.57OluapPlayerThis guy had a pitchfork
16:40.06MonetIn the case of Blaviken, yeah.
16:40.15DrodoEmpireThough in reality peasants often had glaives, swords, bows- and may've been pretty good with them, too
16:40.37HachimanI find it strange that lord would allow peasants to own arms
16:40.57HachimanI mean, any random nobody could easily turn their arms on their lord or on other random nobodies
16:40.58OluapPlayerGetting stabbed by a pitchfork can't be good for you either
16:41.05MonetIt makes sense - this was a time when standing, professional armies weren't a thing
16:41.15DrodoEmpire^
16:41.19DrodoEmpireThat's why hachi
16:41.28DrodoEmpireThere were no professional armies, and most people knew eachother anyway
16:41.40MonetAnd a lot of peasants were farmers so they also had to protect their land form foxes, bandits and sometimes bears.
16:41.47DrodoEmpireThe blade doesn't and did not incite to violence, especially when punishments were so harsh for assault and murder
16:42.08DrodoEmpireYou weren't allowed to carry them publicly as a peasant anyway
16:42.24DrodoEmpireOnly when levied or when there's a crime and a criminal has to be caught
16:43.17MonetVisually it might be confusing to the viewer to see what is supposed to be the bottom-rung of medieval society coming at you with leather armour and a sword.
16:43.36DrodoEmpireWell, the armour bit might be understandable
16:43.44MonetThe armour, yeah
16:43.56DrodoEmpireMost people didn't buy armour unless they had a bit of money and were gonna go to real war
16:43.59DrodoEmpireBut yeah
16:44.33DrodoEmpireAnd of course circumstances were different depending on time and place- less peasants probably had weapons before the plague, for example, when there wasn't such an enormous surplus of cheap, old weapons
16:44.48MonetSo according to media, the best way to show that the guy trying to kill you is at the bottom of the social pyramid is to have hi mtry and kill you with the tools of his livelihood.
16:44.57DrodoEmpireThe plague in general did a lot of good things for peasants' rights eally
16:44.59DrodoEmpire*really
16:45.05DrodoEmpireYeah naturally
16:45.40DrodoEmpire(well, the fallout afterwards- the plague itself was a horrific loss of human life)
16:47.56DrodoEmpireHachiman: Oh yeah another thing to remember about just suddenly revolting- *never* underestimate the sheer power of armoured knights at the height of their power
16:48.04DrodoEmpireVery few peasant revolts were successful
16:48.31DrodoEmpireBecause they were almost all infantry, going against heavily-armoured nobles who were nigh-impossible to kill in their armour
16:48.50DrodoEmpireThey were very much so the tanks of their time
16:49.41MonetChurch doctrine could have also played a hand.
16:49.53DrodoEmpireYeah quite possibly
16:50.34DrodoEmpireAnd also people didn't really care all that much about who ruled over them, so long as they weren't taxed all to hell and they didn't have their sons drafted to never come back :p
16:51.13MonetAs a highly spiritual society - the ramifications of armed revolt meant not only could you die to armoured knights, but the punishment for doing so was to spend eternity in Hell.
16:51.25MonetFor murder.
16:51.36DrodoEmpireLife wasn't hyperregulated by the government as it is today- the rules were simple, the punishments were harsh, and if you followed those rules and went to church every sunday you could do as you wished
16:52.04DrodoEmpireYeah religion played a big rule in legitimising the aristocracy
16:52.15DrodoEmpireWe see that in almost every society
16:52.22DrodoEmpireBut definitely in medieval europe
16:52.59MonetFor the peasantry, knowing the local lord was more critical to your life than nknowing the king.
16:53.16DrodoEmpire^
16:53.32DrodoEmpireThe king was some distant guy they barely knew about
16:54.09DrodoEmpireIn fact, it wasn't until the 18th century that French became like the majority language in France, that's how decentralised it was
16:54.31DrodoEmpireBefore then I believe it was a hodgepodge of regional dialects and languages
16:54.45DrodoEmpireWith actual proper French centered around a few regions
16:55.13Spluff5When creating a planet, what does sector mean?
16:55.22DrodoEmpireSector of space
16:55.33MonetBefore Dante started writing, there were several kinds of Italian due ot similar reasons.
16:56.09DrodoEmpire^
16:56.33DrodoEmpireReading early modern english is quite an experience for similar reasons
16:57.04DrodoEmpireThe grammar's different, but understandable, there's a lot of archaic words and there is *no* standardised spelling.
16:57.40DrodoEmpireI actually had a book on the English Civil War that had a lot of verbatim letters from the war that provided excellent examples of early modern english
16:58.07MonetXho: Just finished reading Eye For An Eye
16:58.35DrodoEmpireThat all being said, an Englishman from 1600 and an Englishman from 2016 could definitely understand eachother
16:59.00Xhogud
16:59.16MonetA lot of schoolchildren over here might disagree with you.
16:59.33DrodoEmpireYeah... XD
16:59.50DrodoEmpireBut that's shakespeare, not vernacular early modern english
17:00.26MonetShaekspeare was intended to be understandable t oan early modenr english audience iirc.
17:01.05XhoThing is with the Divine Comedy is that you need to read a lot of other books to understand it
17:01.12XhoPrimarily Virgil's Aeneid
17:01.13DrodoEmpireIt was, but it was still poetic and used many phrases that're considered archaic or obscure today
17:01.24DrodoEmpireThe war letters I read lacked a lot of that
17:01.24MonetTrue
17:01.35MonetWhen he wrote them, few were intended as the high-brow performances that everyone assumes they are.
17:01.39DrodoEmpire^
17:02.02DrodoEmpireIts like people from, well, the SporeWiki fictionverse regarding Friends as high art
17:02.34DrodoEmpireAs an example
17:03.14MonetIf I remember, when translated, the confrontations between the younger Montague and Capulet confrontations come off as something as eloquent (for the 16th century) as a confrontation between two South-LA gangs.
17:03.30DrodoEmpireJeez
17:03.47DrodoEmpireThere really is nothing new under the sun
17:03.55DrodoEmpireXD
17:03.56MonetMature sorry, not eloquent
17:04.02MonetThey're very flowery.
17:04.24DrodoEmpireTo our ears, yeah
17:05.07DrodoEmpireWhile poetic, it may've been a bit more rude to a listener from the period
17:05.59Monet"Mercutio: O calm, dishonourable, vile submission!
17:05.59Monet"Alla stoccata" carries it away. (draws his sword)
17:05.59MonetTybalt, you rat-catcher, will you walk?
17:05.59MonetTybalt: What wouldst thou have with me?
17:05.59MonetMercutio: Good king of cats, nothing but one of your nine
17:06.00Monetlives; that I mean to make bold withal, and as you
17:06.02Monetshall use me hereafter, drybeat the rest of the
17:06.04Moneteight. Will you pluck your sword out of his pitcher
17:06.06Monetby the ears? make haste, lest mine be about your
17:06.08Monetears ere it be out."
17:06.15Monet(sorry for copypaste
17:06.24DrodoEmpire(Its alright)
17:08.10Xho" you rat-catcher, will you walk?"        = "u fucking wot m8"
17:08.20Monet"Good king of cats | Will you pluck your sword out of his pitcher by the ears?" I think translates to "you dirty trash-eater | Are you going to shank him?"
17:10.59Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#Assassination_Attempt guys look at dis
17:11.10Monet"Romeo Rome, where art thou Romeo" = "The most gorgeous man ever and he has to be one of..."them"?"
17:11.24Xhowherefore art thou silly
17:11.38HachimanThat's a thing, actually
17:11.47MonetIt's been ten years since I read the text.
17:12.04DrodoEmpireDrodo - HEY, FUCK YOU                                     YOU JUST GOT PRANKED
17:12.04HachimanMany people think that Juliet is going on about where Romeo is *physically*
17:12.16Xhodumbass mofos
17:12.36MonetAt least  I got the meaning behind the phrase right.
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17:14.02MonetBut yeah Hachi's right.
17:14.40MonetMany thing she's asking where Romeo is even though she says this just after he leaves to avoid getting caught.
17:15.29MonetI cant' remember fully but I don't think he leaves that abruptly either.
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17:17.00MonetSo the image you get is Julet asking where Romeo's gone all of a sudden just after he says goodnight and leaves.
17:17.33DrodoEmpireHi there
17:23.54Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#Assassination_Attempt guys y u no look at dis
17:24.39OluapPlayersame reason no one looked at the thing above
17:24.42OluapPlayerded irc ded wiki
17:24.55DrodoEmpireI'm trying to think of a response
17:25.50MonetSame as Drodo
17:26.17MonetThat and out of the blue I considered translating a piece of Romeo and Juliet fighting talk
17:29.11Rock_From_HellHi everyone.
17:29.18TreebeardHello
17:31.07Monet<PROTECTED>
17:31.33Monetwait
17:31.55DrodoEmpirehur
17:34.36Monethttp://pastie.org/10909189 there
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17:40.40Spluff5Must have lost connection again
17:41.48Wormy_awayReplied http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Universal_Discussion_Board#Assassination_Attempt
17:42.25XhoKitravasuron - >pen                  how bout i suplex ur shit
17:45.21MonetThis package reminds me of those pamphlets you get if you're pregnant or have been diagnosed with cancer.
17:47.09Wormy_awayOr when you sign up for funeral insurance
17:50.56Wormy_awaysqueals http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/07/16/star-wars-celebration-2016-grand-admiral-thrawn-is-now-canon
17:52.19MonetXho: Responded
17:52.26Xhogud
17:53.36Xhohttp://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/99/Draguros2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20160716175303 have a xhodocto
17:54.22OluapPlayerblack and white mann
17:55.03Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Dominion_of_the_Xhodocto/Hierarchy all looking purty now
17:56.38MonetWormy_away: I like they're respecting the Thrawn Trilogy. For one there wasn't much of an EU before it.
17:57.01MonetBut I'm also slightly lore-miffed at the Y-wing portrayal
17:57.06Wormy_awayyeah
17:57.19DrodoEmpireThey really should've just kept going with the Extended Universe
17:57.32DrodoEmpireThat's what made Star Wars such a rich universe
17:59.01MonetThey tweaked the design of the y-wings, sure
17:59.21OluapPlayerThat paeg needs finishin
17:59.54DrodoEmpireWOuld anybody want to continue the voidwalker RP today?
18:00.00MonetBut it looks like they did away with the fluff concept that the Y-wings look that way because rebel pilots just left most of the plating off.
18:00.45DrodoEmpireI liked how the Clone Wars animated TV show depicted the Y-wings- fits well with what the rebels did
18:01.28DrodoEmpireAnd also sorta gives them a backstory- clearly the rebels got a hold of a big surplus of Y-wings, stripped them down and modified them, used them against the Empire
18:01.37DrodoEmpireI like little things like that as it happens all the time IR:
18:01.38DrodoEmpire*IRL
18:02.05MonetYeah Y-wings were originally intended to look like this http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/c/ce/Original_Y-wing.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20060514160802
18:02.38DrodoEmpireIt takes one captured stockpile of Cold War-era weapons to suddenly make some mob of radicals in to a rebel army
18:02.46DrodoEmpire*It only takes
18:02.52MonetActually the lore I recall is rebel engineers found it too tiresome to constantly take off the plates for repairs, fix a problem and then set the plate back on.
18:02.54CyrannianThat was an awesome trailer, looking forward to the next season
18:03.32CyrannianLooks like the dark troopers are now canon too
18:04.05MonetPossibly screwing with Dark Trooper canon. Not sure
18:04.32CyrannianOoh and a model of a Venator-class in Tarkin's office, kinda like Picard and earlier Enterprises hur
18:04.35MonetI recall the Dark Trooper project was deemed impractical in the long run
18:06.34MonetMaul, Thrawn, Dark Troopers, possibly a nod to Peragus, I know I don't watch the show but I smell large quantities of viewbait.
18:07.35Monet"I'm the one in the middle, the Bindu" ...okay yeah
18:10.22MonetI'm a cynic I know but I'm a hardcore KOTOR fan.
18:11.07MonetFirst they make their own version of Malachor, now they make a shout out to the grey jedi Jolee Bondo.
18:11.25MonetBindu*
18:17.27MonetAlso "Mandalorians who serve the Empire" barring Mando mercenaries how would this concept fit?
18:18.16MonetIIRC Mandalorians would not approve of the idea of conforming to Imperial culture.
18:21.13MonetAs being a Mandalorian was an idea, a code to live by.
18:21.38Tek0516It'll probably make sense when we get the full context. I think Manadalorians showed up earlier in the show but can't remember.
18:22.45Tek0516Monet: considering this is basically the season's announcement trailer at Star Wars Celebration the viewbait shouldn't be too surprising.
18:23.04MonetI remember there was an episode that had some nonviolent Mandalorians.
18:23.33Tek0516This is probably supposed to be the season's pure hype-mode trailer.
18:24.05MonetWell I imagine it worked.
18:26.33Tek0516It seems like Maul is going to be more than just his role from the Season 2 finale though. Depending on what they do with him it seems like he's going to be a major character now.
18:27.25MonetI'm curious to know how he went from "Sidious apprentice whose life was cut short" to "Practically a Sith lord by his own right"
18:28.06Tek0516Have you seen either of the animated series?
18:28.17MonetNot really no...
18:28.35CyrannianHe is no longer Sith and said himself that he was "previously Darth, now just Maul"
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18:29.10MonetSo he's no longer Sith but keeps his Sith name because reasons.
18:29.16ImpyAndroidCyrannian: THRAWN LIVES
18:29.20ImpyAndroidTHRAWN LIVES
18:29.25ImpyAndroidCANON AHAIN
18:29.34ImpyAndroidTHE GREATEST MILITARY COMMANDER OF ALL TIME
18:29.39ImpyAndroidHE LIVES
18:30.07Monetwho is nowhere to be found between 0 and 4BBY*
18:30.10Tek0516Even in Clone Wars his arc basically had him with his own apprentice and an army, briefly ruling Mandalore.
18:30.24MonetABY*
18:30.37CyrannianCanonically, I'm pretty sure his birth name was Maul, as his brothers were known as Savage and Feral
18:30.49Xhoedgy
18:30.55CyrannianImpyAndroid: yey, played by not!Putin from House of Cards too
18:31.10MonetThat sounds more like Disney not getting Sith tradition.
18:31.18Tek0516If I had to guess they'll probably end his arc in Rebels with Maul's death.
18:32.24ImpyAndroidI still want Ezra to become Snoke though
18:32.28MonetAlso if "Maul" is his real name, and he has brothers called "Savage and Feral" does that make Bao-dur the weird kid with the funny name?
18:33.09MonetSo I agree with Xho
18:33.11CyrannianDisney does not have control over canon though. It's the Lucasfilm Story Group (additionally, Maul's family was introduced prior to Disney's' involvement in Star Wars)
18:33.19ImpyAndroidAnd their sister, Hormonal Oppress
18:33.46MonetSo I guess Maul, Savage and Feral are the weird-named Zabarak.
18:33.59ImpyAndroidIt would make sense considering they come from a rather weird world
18:34.05ImpyAndroidDathomir
18:34.14CyrannianMaul, Savage and Feral are Dathomiri Zabrak, not from the main culture on Iridonia
18:34.34Cyrannianhttp://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nightbrothers
18:34.46MonetRight, that makes a bit more sense.
18:35.04ImpyAndroidCyrannian: Hm
18:35.16Tek0516At least the Maul/Savage arc of Clone Wars gave us some cool duel scenes (for example the curbstomp battle between Palpatine and Maul/Savage)
18:35.18ImpyAndroidDo SWTOR red Zabrak come from Dathomir too?
18:35.47MonetIn SWTOR the Zabarak were neatly divided between the Republic and the Empire.
18:35.48CyrannianI'm not sure, according to SWTOR, Zabrak are split almost evenly between two separate cultures, one Republic, one Empire
18:35.53Cyrannianninja'd
18:36.39CyrannianImpyAndroid: There is speculation that this guy is Snoke: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gallius_Rax
18:38.37MonetAs I've said before, I'll happily stick to the Old Republic era.
18:38.53ImpyAndroidLooks like it
18:39.22CyrannianAlso I love the fact that the Empire referred to the Galactic Civil War as the 'Galactic War on Insurgency'
18:41.32ImpyAndroidWhy not "Anti-terrorist Operation" tho?
18:41.54ImpyAndroid"Affiliation: Shadow Council"
18:42.01ImpyAndroid>Shadow Council
18:42.37CyrannianImpyAndroid: I'm pretty sure it's a reference to the 'Global War on Terrorism'
18:44.57MonetNice bit of propaganda
18:49.17CyrannianAlso, just realised that the name Bendu no doubt came from the original name of the Jedi in the first draft of Star Wars as the Jedi-Bendu, which may be where Bindo got his name
18:50.58MonetTrue, but the reference could be more aimed at KOTOR fans as early drafts of Star Wars are primarily known by super-fans
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18:52.17The_RandomnessHello
18:52.28Wormy_awayhi
18:53.08The_RandomnessI went to bed at almost 4 AM today, and I have no idea why
18:54.27CyrannianI doubt it's a KOTOR reference, 'Bindo' and 'Bendu' are quite dissimilar. (though according to the Wookieepedia page, the character is voiced by Tom Baker! http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Bendu )
18:54.47Hachiman"I can confirm all virgins in paradise look like an uglier, hairier, manlier version of me. Go ahead. Detonate that jacket. Allahu Akbar." - Katie Hopkins
18:55.08HachimanShe's an absolute cunt but she's got Margaret Thatcher-level intolerance for BS
18:55.24DrodoEmpirehur
18:56.48MonetCyrannian: Maybe, but it's the combination of being in between light and dark, and sounding like "Bindo" that makes me think what I do.
19:03.07ImpyAndroidI think the Bendu monks were present in Legends
19:03.08ImpyAndroidAlso
19:03.09ImpyAndroidBendu
19:03.11ImpyAndroidBenders
19:06.49Xhohur dur dur
19:07.39Cyrannianbrb
19:11.21MonetImpyDroid: You mean the monks that lived in brain jars in Jabba's palace?
19:13.31ImpyAndroidMaybe
19:21.36ImpyAndroidWatched Iron Man 2 recently
19:21.47ImpyAndroidGod is Ivan Vanko's Russian mangled
19:22.15ImpyAndroidWhy couldn't they proofread the Russian text and dialogue in the movie hur
19:24.36ImpyAndroidAt one point he says something like "It is better to die than to live in your world"
19:24.59ImpyAndroidHowever the actor mangled it to something like "It is better to have omelette than to live in your world"
19:25.04The_Randomnesslol
19:25.25DrodoEmpireBut I don't like eggs >:
19:25.45ImpyAndroidDo not question Whiplash
19:26.41DrodoEmpire>:
19:27.51DrodoEmpireActually on that- I doubt I'm the only person here who isn't a fan of eggs, but I wonder- when it comes to eggs, its not like I don't like their taste or texture, its more the idea of *what I'm eating* that puts me off. >.<
19:29.22The_RandomnessInteresting
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19:31.33MonetDrodoEmpire: You mean bird foetuses?
19:31.44Wormy_awayhttps://twitter.com/zamosta/status/750197266510589952
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19:32.01DrodoEmpireWell, yes, that- but moreover anything related to the unborn gives me the creeps
19:32.08DrodoEmpireIncluding, it seems, unfertilized eggs
19:32.23The_RandomnessI was going to say, aren't those eggs unfertilized? :p
19:32.42MonetUnfertilised eggs are really just egg cells wrapped in a nutrient gel.
19:33.10DrodoEmpireI know, but the idea that its still *related* to that gives me an irrational uneasiness. >.<
19:33.29Wormy_awayDo you get the same problem consuming dairy?
19:33.43Charles_BotHey
19:33.50The_RandomnessHey Charles
19:34.05DrodoEmpireWormy_away: Nah, I'm alright with dairy
19:34.36DrodoEmpireI love a glass of milk with my dinner :p
19:34.37Charles_BotOn the train, so connection  might be a bit spotty
19:34.42DrodoEmpireAhh, okay
19:34.51DrodoEmpireWe're discussing my irrational aversion to eggs
19:34.55Wormy_awayI love a glass of beer with mine
19:35.45DrodoEmpireStill a bit underage for that, but I'll try that when I can and get back to you. XD
19:36.21Wormy_awayI see, in the UK you can drink alcohol at home at any age but I guess things are different in Canada
19:36.35DrodoEmpireI think the law's universal yeah
19:36.53Charles_BotIn France, it's 18
19:36.53Wormy_awayBet many people defy it
19:36.56DrodoEmpireThat being said its not much of a barrier for people who want to drink or use drugs underage
19:36.57Charles_BotHere it's 21
19:37.05DrodoEmpireOhh yeah, like you wouldn't believe Wormy
19:37.11DrodoEmpireYeah its eighteen in Canada too
19:37.13DrodoEmpireHelps tourism
19:37.15DrodoEmpire:p
19:37.19Charles_BotLol
19:37.28DrodoEmpireI wish I was kidding
19:37.34Charles_BotHelps tourism in France too I imagine
19:37.40Wormy_awayIts 18 to drink alcohol in public spaces here, though you have to prove you are 21 or even 25 in some places
19:37.55DrodoEmpireI hear all the time that kids from the States'll go to Toronto or Montreal and get wasted before returning to the states the next day
19:38.07DrodoEmpireHuh
19:38.19Charles_BotAyep
19:38.38DrodoEmpire(But yeah, I believe NS actually has the highest rate of marijuana usage in Canada, in a country that already has a *lot* of pot usage)
19:38.55Wormy_awayI must admit, as a vegetarian, I try not to think about the animal cells in the egg, but then I remember its unfertilised.  However the thought of all the male chicks slaughtered is more off-putting
19:39.10Charles_BotOh!
19:39.16Charles_BotOne thing I never announced
19:39.22DrodoEmpireOh?
19:39.34The_Randomnesshm?
19:39.39Wormy_awayI'm more disgusted by milk in a sense, it contains puss, blood, sweat, animal hairs and cells in small amounts
19:39.40DrodoEmpireWormy_away: That's fair
19:40.29HachimanWormy confirmed milksop
19:40.33DrodoEmpireAt least with pastuerisation, that stuff won't kill me though >.<
19:40.34Charles_BotA decade after the Torrent was first introduced in Sporewiki France, The Drodo Empire has become the first foreign adopter of the French omnirole fighter
19:40.42DrodoEmpireOh, yeah
19:40.48DrodoEmpireThat's pretty good
19:40.49DrodoEmpire<.<
19:40.55Charles_BotIt only took me ten years xD
19:41.02The_Randomness:P
19:41.07Charles_BotTo sell the damn thing
19:41.17Wormy_awayHachiman:  I'm disgusted, but I will still have milk in my cereal
19:41.56The_RandomnessCharles_Bot: When do you think you'll be available for collabverse stuff? I really want to get the Federation stuff moving again, even though I am having a lot of fun with my own planet right now
19:44.42Charles_BotSoon, I hope; not sure when though. I finished working at the mission yesterday, I'm going to and from upstate NY today, taking the train to Washington tomorrow, and starting my next thing
19:44.55Charles_BotSo there might not be much time in between
19:46.54The_RandomnessAlright, just let me know when you are available
19:48.18ImpyAndroidCharles_Bot: So people can go to different countries to make use of the local age laws
19:48.32ImpyAndroid...Can I go to France to fuck a 15 year old girl then?
19:48.36ImpyAndroidTheoretically
19:48.36DrodoEmpireTo drink?
19:48.45DrodoEmpireHappens all the time with US to Canada
19:49.00DrodoEmpireAnd... That is a *very* specific question
19:49.07DrodoEmpire:p
19:49.07OluapPlayerI come back to this
19:49.41ImpyAndroid15 because the age of consent here is 16+
19:49.52Charles_BotImpyDroid sex tourism is a thing you know
19:50.02HachimanOh shit what
19:50.03ImpyAndroidWell yes
19:50.35DrodoEmpireHachiman: You of all people have never heard tell of sex tourism? XD
19:50.35HachimanI mean
19:50.55HachimanI know of sex tourism, just not that French age of consent was 15
19:50.58Hachimandats pedo
19:51.00ImpyAndroidIt is lpwer
19:51.05ImpyAndroid12 or 14 I believe
19:51.10HachimanWait what the fuck
19:51.11DrodoEmpireJesus
19:51.12HachimanReally
19:51.13The_Randomnesswtf
19:51.14ImpyAndroidFrance.jpg
19:52.13DrodoEmpire...eeyeah 16's the lowest it should *ever* go and even then its a little bit gross
19:52.18ImpyAndroidHere it is 16+ but I believe that there are limitations from 16 to 18, or 14+ if with another pre-adult
19:52.35Wormy_awayEven 16 is gross
19:52.49ImpyAndroidI think if you are like 18 it is okay
19:53.16ImpyAndroidAs in 18 year old person having an affair with a 16 year old person
19:53.34HachimanI think 16 is reasonable, though should only really be reserved for people between 16 to 18 years
19:53.40Wormy_awayAfter 18 it gets a bit frowned upon
19:53.48HachimanLike, a two year difference at max
19:53.58DrodoEmpireWell yeah 18 or even 17 is acceptable but 16's a pretty straddling sorta year and should have some special laws about it
19:54.00HachimanAnd when you turn 18, you can do the do with whoever you want to
19:54.21DrodoEmpireSick rhyme <.<
19:54.37Wormy_away18 on 80
19:54.52ImpyAndroidWormy_away: Two words
19:54.54ImpyAndroidMoney
19:54.55ImpyAndroidAlcohol
19:55.02Wormy_awayExperience
19:55.14HachimanMONEY
19:55.16HachimanALCOHOL
19:55.22DrodoEmpirehttp://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/020/546/7e7.jpg
19:55.33HachimanAlso some knockout drugs if you're a sick fuck
19:56.45ImpyAndroidhttp://i.imgur.com/ILvlBZb.png Yemen be like
19:56.53DrodoEmpireHachiman: You're gonna do the zip zapity with the dude after you hit'em with the quaalude? <.<
19:56.56DrodoEmpire>.>
19:57.00ImpyAndroidSPAIN WHAT THE FUCK
19:57.06ImpyAndroidIRAN WHAT THE FUCK
19:57.10ImpyAndroidAnd most importantly
19:57.14HachimanIran I am not surprised at
19:57.16ImpyAndroidYEMEN WHAT THE FUCK
19:57.22ImpyAndroidWell yes Iran is Iran
19:57.23ImpyAndroidBut
19:57.27ImpyAndroidSpain
19:58.19ImpyAndroidI like how most Islamic countries are torn apart between strictness and pedo
19:58.47DrodoEmpireI might chalk that up to different ways of enforcing the same verses
19:59.06ImpyAndroidMeanwhile Tunisia is into MILFs apparently
19:59.20ImpyAndroidAge of consent 20
19:59.23ImpyAndroidSeriously
19:59.37DrodoEmpireYeah that's *super* conservative
19:59.39HachimanEr, I dunno where you figured 20 as being a MILF age
20:00.09DrodoEmpireFirst you ask if its legal to fuck a 15 year old in France
20:00.12ImpyAndroidAs in they see into older women
20:00.14DrodoEmpireThen you think being 20 is old
20:00.20Hachiman... Actually what am I saying, the UK has many people becoming mothers under 20
20:00.23DrodoEmpireThis is getting more and more incriminating Impy <.<
20:00.23ImpyAndroidOld as in older
20:00.44HachimanImp the Pedochimp
20:00.46ImpyAndroidGuys I was seduced by a girl two years than me
20:00.52ImpyAndroidI think you all remember her
20:01.00HachimanAlonya?
20:01.01ImpyAndroidShe was like 20 and I was 18
20:01.16DrodoEmpirehttp://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/020/546/7e7.jpg according to Tunisia
20:01.24ImpyAndroidNo Veronica
20:01.35ImpyAndroidSo guys srsly
20:01.38The_RandomnessDrodoEmpire: lol
20:01.51DrodoEmpireJust you wait until I forward this to master Keem Impy
20:01.56DrodoEmpire>.>
20:01.57HachimanOh God
20:02.11HachimanLET'S GET ROOOOOIIIIIIGGGGGHHHHTTTT INTO THE NOOOOOOSE
20:02.32DrodoEmpireayy lmao
20:03.05ImpyAndroidWe had that Jewish Neo-Nazi YouTube persona who killed pedophiles
20:03.16ImpyAndroidI should probably be afraid of him more
20:03.27DrodoEmpire"Jewish Neo-nazi"
20:03.30DrodoEmpireSomething here is off
20:03.40ImpyAndroidObviously he denies his heritage but
20:03.45HachimanYou mean Sargon
20:03.47ImpyAndroidMartzinkevitch
20:03.57ImpyAndroidHis surname is fucking Martzinkevitch
20:04.14Wormy_awayhttp://imgur.com/gallery/WKSeJ
20:04.21ImpyAndroidSargon's not brutal enough to kill pedophiles hur
20:04.39DrodoEmpireAlso he isn't a neo-nazi or jewish, as far as I'm aware
20:04.46ImpyAndroidThat too
20:05.01XhoI keep thinking of the historical Sargon whenever you mention Sargon
20:05.04Wormy_awaylove the comment screenshots beneath of people complaining about products containing dihydrogen monoxide
20:05.10DrodoEmpireolol
20:05.38ImpyAndroidXho: Notable for fighting wild Amazon tribes led by Queen Anitaia
20:05.56Hachiman>Amazons
20:06.12ImpyAndroidConqueror of Triggerilon
20:06.18HachimanDo not use such a word to reference fat-assed Trigglypuff SJWs ever again pls
20:06.56XhoI'm losing the convo here
20:07.15DrodoEmpireback to Jewish neo-nazis
20:07.22DrodoEmpireWho *is* this guy, exactly?
20:07.24DrodoEmpireImpy
20:07.27ImpyAndroidTesak
20:07.41DrodoEmpireHe like some alt-right dipshit? >.<
20:08.03ImpyAndroidLess talk more action though still an attention whore
20:08.07ImpyAndroidAnd much more brutal
20:08.17DrodoEmpireRight
20:08.20ImpyAndroidHe actually looked for pedophiles and then brutally killed them
20:08.24ImpyAndroidAnd filmed the kills
20:08.25DrodoEmpireJesus o.O
20:08.39DrodoEmpireI presume he's in jail for what he's done?
20:08.51HachimanHe killed them because he couldn't deliver sick as fuck burns
20:09.08ImpyAndroidYes
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20:09.22DrodoEmpireRight, right
20:10.29ImpyAndroidActually wait he did not kill them, he beat them near to death with his gang and then humiliated them
20:10.44ImpyAndroidSometimes he pissed at them
20:10.57DrodoEmpireThat's still aggravated assault >.<
20:11.11ImpyAndroidThe process of looking for pedophiles was part of the show; he pretended to be a child on the Internet
20:11.44DrodoEmpireHuh
20:12.27ImpyAndroidAlso of note: he always pretended to be male, so ultimately his show was centered around attacking homosexuals more than pedophiles
20:12.41ImpyAndroidEspecially since he usually masqueraded as a teenager and not a child
20:12.56DrodoEmpireWhile I hate pedophiles as much as... well, probably that guy, I can't exactly condone that sort of vigilante justice, especially when he could be wrong
20:13.38DrodoEmpireHe could very easily be misled and either beat up the wrong guy or beat up someone who had no actual intent to do anything, depending on how rigorous his hunt was :p
20:14.01ImpyAndroidOne of his youngee followers stopped targeting pedophiles and simply began targeting gays; he pretended to be gay, invited young gay men to go on a date and then basically outed them
20:14.05ImpyAndroidWell
20:14.10ImpyAndroidGay boys I guess
20:14.14ImpyAndroidTeenagers
20:14.34DrodoEmpireWell yeah that's awful
20:14.59DrodoEmpireI mean at least pedophiles are the absolute scum of the earth- not that that justifies nearly killing them either
20:15.10DrodoEmpireBut gay boys? That's simple persecution
20:15.11ImpyAndroidAlso, being a Neo-Nazi, he pretended to be a... should I say "man of colour", dated girls on the Internet, and then shamed them as "betrayers of the white race" and all that
20:15.29The_RandomnessThat's messed up
20:16.06DrodoEmpireRight, so he pretended to be a coloured person and then shamed white women for daring to date who they chose to date :p
20:16.24ImpyAndroidThat is why this is fucking Tesak
20:16.27ImpyAndroidHe sucks
20:16.31The_Randomnessdisgusting individual(s)
20:16.46Wormy_awayDid he get punished?
20:16.47DrodoEmpireHe's probably one of the craziest alt-righters I've ever heard of
20:17.18HachimanHonestly, and I know it might be a bit of a controversial opinion, but there is a surprising number of pedophiles who do not participate in, or condone, the activities of many exposed pedophiles
20:17.34DrodoEmpireThere are, I've heard of such things
20:17.47DrodoEmpireNor is that an opinion- that's more of a fact
20:17.57ImpyAndroidWormy_away: Yeah he was imprisoned for extremism and hate speech eventually
20:18.08The_RandomnessAs he should have been
20:18.09DrodoEmpireFacts can't be controversial- once a fact becomes controversial that implies people would sooner deny reality
20:18.22ImpyAndroidHe tried to flee Russia but failed
20:18.52HachimanI was gonna say that people like that who recognise that they have the problem and do not act on it don't really deserve that kind of persecution
20:19.01DrodoEmpireNo, they don't
20:19.23DrodoEmpireThey should be treated for their problem, absolutely
20:19.28Wormy_awayI know Germany now gives psychological help to such people without reporting them to police
20:20.05DrodoEmpireA crime, after all, requires both thought and action
20:20.16DrodoEmpireAnd a victim, also a victim
20:20.24DrodoEmpireI don't believe in victimless crimes
20:20.30HachimanReminds me of how Sweden assists with drug addicts
20:20.42HachimanSpecifically morphine addicts, I think it was
20:21.41HachimanThey have facilities that act as shelter for addicts where they can get treatment and be gradually weened off of their addiction rather than being forced to go cold turkey
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20:22.01DrodoEmpireThat's good
20:22.04HachimanWith access to actual medical-grade morphine rather than the distilled shit that is sold on the streets
20:23.25Charles_BotEy Xho
20:23.29Xho3456u7y
20:23.42Wormy_away21
20:23.48XhoAA
20:23.51Charles_BotWhat's president Kit's formal address? Your Excellency? Mr. President?
20:23.58Wormy_awayOf shit its 21:23 here
20:24.03Wormy_away*oh
20:24.08Charles_Bot"Of shit"
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20:24.24Charles_BotWormy cannot into space
20:29.20ImpyAndroidDCP STRONK
20:33.34Wormy_awayhttps://twitter.com/Cmdr_Hadfield/status/752510485514387456
20:34.16DrodoEmpirelol
20:34.18The_Randomnesslol
20:37.02XhoCharles_Bot: For the Kicath it's 'President'
20:37.23XhoAlthough there's a lot of linguistic formality so there's no real translation
20:37.39Wormy_awayhttps://twitter.com/MedievalReacts/status/754365467666554880
20:37.51XhoSo it might come down to either Your Excellency or Mr. President in the end
20:39.23Wormy_awayhttps://twitter.com/MedievalReacts
20:39.41Wormy_awaygrrr
20:39.43Wormy_awayhttps://twitter.com/MedievalReacts/status/750334243016966144
20:45.59The_Randomnesslol
20:52.10MonetXho: Prepare for a lengthy French response lol.
20:52.35Xhogood lord
20:55.54DrodoEmpirehttps://gfycat.com/TediousShyChameleon - KennyS angle didn't pay off
20:56.33DrodoEmpireTo buddy'd credit that was a pretty good AK shot <.<
20:56.51DrodoEmpire*buddy's
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20:59.55Quark8Hello.
21:00.26DrodoEmpireHi
21:12.40Xhokk
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21:17.47HachimanImpyAndroid: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/13729091_1185006624853459_6886726928204570569_n.jpg?oh=e728574f269e3764b24965f36d729a7d&oe=58223CD3
21:18.15DrodoEmpireOh gawker
21:18.30ImpyAndroidNot sure if they are trolling or just that stupid
21:18.52DrodoEmpireGawker is actually one of the worst excuses for journalism I've ever seen
21:19.06DrodoEmpireI wouldn't put that remark, even if its a bad attempt at being funny, above them
21:21.23XhoOluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qam4Cyy-IG4
21:22.24Quark8Gawker filed for bankruptcy, right?
21:24.12OluapPlayerXho: adgssdg
21:24.15OluapPlayerI voted Spu
21:25.28Xhospu is love
21:25.40XhoI'm secretly hoping to do Meet the Spu but blah
21:28.27XhoSeems to be likely anyway
21:30.56DrodoEmpireQuark8: it did
21:31.00DrodoEmpireGood riddance
21:32.32MonetNot very secret now
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21:39.43DrodoEmpireHi
21:42.34Spluff5Hi
21:43.53Charles_BotXho
21:43.57Xho?
21:43.59Charles_BotAlmost finished
21:44.19Charles_BotJust trying to figure out how to send it to you
21:44.51Xho?
21:44.55XhoI'm confused
21:46.02MonetCharles_Bot: Will it be a UDB message or a directed transmission?
21:46.23XhoNote that I don't look at talk pages on my fiction
21:50.39Charles_BotHnng slow internet
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21:52.50Charles_MurrayXho Monet : http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/d4/2810_Letter_from_the_Emperor_of_the_French_to_the_President_of_the_Kicathian_Republic.pdf/revision/latest?cb=20160716214925
21:54.14Charles_MurrayAlso DrodoEmpire
21:54.21XhoWell that's a dedicated way of doing it I must say
21:54.24DrodoEmpireYep, I see it... Sorta
21:54.31DrodoEmpireI mean, its very pixellated for me
21:55.00MonetThat is...Damn
21:55.08Charles_Murrayhttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/99/2810_Letter_from_the_Emperor_of_the_French_to_the_President_of_the_Kicathian_Republic.png/revision/latest?cb=20160716215124
21:55.16Charles_MurrayIf it doesn't load properly like for DrodoEmpire
21:55.29DrodoEmpireStill tiny
21:56.14Xho"2810 letter"
21:56.14The_RandomnessLooks fine to me
21:56.18XhoIt's in 2815 tho
21:56.27DrodoEmpireOdd...
21:57.07DrodoEmpireAh, I've got it
21:57.51Charles_MurrayTechnobliterator rename pls
21:58.00Charles_Murrayto 2815
21:58.33OluapPlayerAll this dedication for that post
21:58.37OluapPlayerMeanwhile I got zero
21:58.43Xho0/10
21:58.43Charles_Murrayhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:2810_Letter_from_the_Emperor_of_the_French_to_the_President_of_the_Kicathian_Republic.pdf
21:59.18XhoI wonder what software you used to make that
21:59.49Charles_MurrayPages, it was actually really easy
22:00.09Charles_MurrayJust took the formal letter format, tweaked the letterhead, changed the body font to Didot, and voila
22:00.20Charles_MurrayAlso dragged in the Emperor's ensignia
22:00.21XhoI was thinking InDesign but I was way off
22:00.36XhoThat's my work mode coming to life there
22:03.47Charles_MurrayWhat would Kit think of the letter?
22:04.28XhoI think he'd find some security in it
22:04.47XhoIt's hard to tell what level of sentimentality a Kicath would feel though
22:05.04XhoHe'd appreciate the concern though
22:05.52MonetKit lucky having three intelligence agencies lending their support.
22:06.09MonetAlongside the Agency.
22:06.26XhoKit - u dun goofed
22:07.59Charles_MurrayFrance - shit just got real m8
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22:08.30AdmiralPandahi all
22:08.34Monethi
22:08.46AdmiralPandaThe_Randomness Monet Hachiman: as per usual, if you guys have cyberpunk stuff you want to talk about let me know
22:08.52The_Randomnessok
22:09.50MonetIs very bad when one considers one of those agencies evolved from the Divinarium
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22:12.13MonetI always figured the Divinarium's secret intelligence committee was one of the great boogeymen of Xonexi.
22:13.53Charles_MurrayFairly likely, yeah
22:14.50TechnobliteratorI so want a break right now : |
22:15.51The_RandomnessTechnobliterator: My group cleared A6S on Thursday c:
22:16.03Technobliterator:o
22:16.04Technobliteratorniiice
22:16.06TechnobliteratorWas it fun?
22:16.28The_RandomnessWell, we were stuck on it for something like three months lol
22:16.30The_Randomnessso that felt good
22:17.23Technobliteratorhahaha I bet
22:17.40Technobliteratorit must've taken you so many tries
22:17.45MonetCharle_Murray_: The assailant must be good if they were able to take out the son of the Aknatazan patriarch within the family's own building.
22:18.23The_RandomnessTechnobliterator: Yeah, but to be honest we've only really been on Vortexer for the last couple weeks
22:18.24MonetThis is going to be a tense pursuit.
22:18.32Technobliteratorahh
22:18.34Technobliteratorfair enough
22:19.02The_RandomnessLike, consistently getting to it
22:19.19The_RandomnessWe would've cleared on Monday actually if I hadn't moved too early on this one mechanic :<
22:21.53Charles_MurrayMonet Aye
22:23.32MonetMy suggestion for Lambda is to look though that footage and see if of the building's visitors had a barcode tattooed on the back of their head.
22:23.58MonetMy money's on that guy being a lead lol.
22:26.03DrodoEmpirehur
22:35.11Charles_MurrayI think I'm done tweaking the letter Monet Xho DrodoEmpire
22:35.12Charles_Murrayhttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/d4/2810_Letter_from_the_Emperor_of_the_French_to_the_President_of_the_Kicathian_Republic.pdf/revision/latest?cb=20160716223352
22:40.01Xho"but never again must we resort to physical violence as a tool of policy, as a means to an end"        "Tell that to Kitalatheraz Aknatazán" - Kitravasuron, 2815
22:40.06Wormy_awayHachiman:  Dark5 did a video on Pokemon Go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRW0Z_ETe0w
22:42.10Charles_MurraySelf-defense is excepted lol
22:42.59MonetHow about on-site murder of the assailant?
22:44.21Charles_Murray(This is rhetoric you dums)
22:44.44Charles_Murray( :) )
22:46.00Monet"Pikachu reminds you that Pokemon trainers must not tresspass on federal property"
22:46.43Monet"No trespassing, violaters will be thunderbolted, survivors will be thunderbolted again"
22:47.15DrodoEmpirehur
22:48.42The_Randomnesslol
22:49.20Charles_Murraylol
22:50.23Monet#1 I admit I suspected such could happen
22:52.40XhoKitalatheraz is conducting an ancient law of the Kicath which might be seen as tribalistic to some in the Gigaquadrant, it's certainly not recognised as legal in the Republic's constitution
22:54.50MonetIts hard to argue with House Aknatazan
22:57.56MonetFortunately for drivers it's been discovered that Pokemon Go stops working when you're moving faster than 20mph.
23:17.04DrodoEmpiretest
23:17.26Quark8success
23:17.31Charles_Murray"he attempt of July 15 was a terrible blow to Turkey and a mistake of historic proportions. No Turk went to sleep the night of July15-16. The memory of that night will now stay in the consciousness of an entire generation of Turks."
23:20.29DrodoEmpire?
23:24.22Wormy_awayMonet http://i.imgur.com/TB7HYL0.jpg
23:25.05Monet"you have captured a Gainypuff."
23:26.13DrodoEmpireolol
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23:33.23Quark8Hello.
23:37.52Wormy_awayhi
23:38.21Wormy_awayhttp://imgur.com/gallery/rr6zp
23:38.47The_Randomnesslol
23:39.00The_RandomnessI remember hearing about that not very long ago
23:39.23DrodoEmpireI've known of that conflict for a while
23:39.30DrodoEmpireAnd yeah it was mentioned a few days ago
23:39.37DrodoEmpireNice to be reminded of it XD
23:55.43Wormy_awayA hidden message in these post titles http://imgur.com/gallery/wOnpR
23:56.34Wormy_awayhttp://i.imgur.com/7Rbp1.gif

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