| 00:00.11 | LaptopPanda | I stopped watching SnK a few episodes after the whole "Erin is a titan" thing is revealed, because what I thought was going to happen was Eren was dead and Misaka or whatever her name was was going to adopt some of his crazy and that would have been cool to watch |
| 00:00.30 | LaptopPanda | but I'm not really into flesh-mecha punching shows so I stopped |
| 00:00.34 | Tybusen | Well, getting rescued by Zeke/Mule Titan isn't an asspull but it's still frustrating |
| 00:00.49 | Hachiman | Having fucking JELLYFISH PHYSIOLOGY is an asspull though |
| 00:00.56 | Tybusen | Well yeah |
| 00:01.01 | Hachiman | LaptopPanda: You'll be happy to know that Mikasa is now a total blank slate now |
| 00:01.12 | Hachiman | She has no personality and exists only to say "Eren" and suck his cock |
| 00:01.13 | LaptopPanda | she always was a total blank slate |
| 00:01.14 | Tybusen | And then nothing came of it other than plot convenience, so there's that too |
| 00:02.07 | Tybusen | This arc has had some really good moments but also has had these convoluted plot twists that drag it down |
| 00:02.30 | LaptopPanda | that's the thing, like I thought she was the better character from the start, and that Eren dying would give her the character development to make her go full protagonist mode, but no |
| 00:02.53 | Tybusen | Mikasa really isn't a good character, no |
| 00:03.02 | Tybusen | Flat from the start and doesn't develop a lot |
| 00:03.08 | Hachiman | Jean on the other hand |
| 00:03.33 | LaptopPanda | Tybusen: yeah she was flat from the start, but she had the potential to be better- what made me mad was that potential was wasted |
| 00:03.59 | Hachiman | I like how Jean is developing and that he is now more than just Eren's rival |
| 00:04.07 | Hachiman | Sasha too |
| 00:04.37 | Tybusen | Sasha's been a little stagnant in terms of development ever since she got the bow |
| 00:04.48 | Tybusen | Which is unfortunate since she's my favorite character of the bunch |
| 00:04.54 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 00:05.05 | Hachiman | Connie is |
| 00:05.07 | Hachiman | Well, Connie |
| 00:05.21 | Tybusen | Have you read any of the theories about Sasha becoming a Titan in this arc |
| 00:06.11 | Hachiman | Not really |
| 00:06.17 | Hachiman | I fell out from the community |
| 00:06.43 | Tybusen | There's some people who think that Sasha's meat craze in that last feast scene they had is foreshadowing something |
| 00:06.57 | Tybusen | Mostly from her expressions in that scene being sort of Titan-like |
| 00:07.21 | Tybusen | And Monkey Trouble is prowling around where Sasha and Connie are currently so it's a possibility |
| 00:07.28 | Hachiman | True |
| 00:07.46 | Hachiman | I dunno whether it would add or remove from her character if we ended up finding out that she resorted to cannibalism in her backstory |
| 00:08.31 | Tybusen | It seems more like becoming a Titan would be a logical extension of her "big eater" personality |
| 00:09.05 | Hachiman | I find it difficult to imagine Sasha as a Titan though |
| 00:09.14 | Tybusen | which is a little odd to be coming up again since Sasha has shed most of the comedic parts of her personality as of late |
| 00:09.45 | Hachiman | inb4 let Armin fucking die and move Sasha into the spotlight as main character |
| 00:09.52 | Tybusen | Some people are also looking at how Sasha didn't get a Titan form when Isayama made that joke preview of everyone getting a Titan form |
| 00:10.10 | Hachiman | Ooh I never noticed that |
| 00:10.12 | Tybusen | Honestly I'd welcome Sasha becoming a main protagonist at this point |
| 00:10.47 | Tybusen | That joke preview was also used to argue against Historia becoming a Titan at the climax of the Revolution arc |
| 00:11.36 | Tybusen | The preview had Mikasa, Jean, Connie, Armin, and Historia all get Titans, so it might also cast doubt on whether Armin will actually survive this arc as a Titan |
| 00:11.38 | Hachiman | Do you still have that preview? |
| 00:12.08 | Tybusen | http://i.imgur.com/4uj9U42.jpg Here it is |
| 00:12.31 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Xho/Sandbox#Longinus Got bored so I did a lengthy description of gold spear guy |
| 00:13.12 | Hachiman | Armin's fucking Titan |
| 00:13.16 | Hachiman | Always makes me giggle |
| 00:14.58 | Monet | Xho: "Whilst he may have been thought of as attractive from a certain angle, his face was considerably more aged - mostly out of an incessant facial expression of disdain." dude got ugly though the sheer power of a constant scowl |
| 00:15.13 | Tybusen | It also makes me doubt if Armin will become a Titan simply because I don't think Isayama would make a joke preview of something that was going to actually become a serious plot point later |
| 00:15.18 | Xho | Longinus - 10,000 years of it |
| 00:22.25 | Monet | Shiny elf. |
| 00:23.43 | Xho | Longinus - double sun powa |
| 00:25.17 | Xho | https://youtu.be/h69wozqWXfY?t=9s Basically Longinus in three words |
| 00:27.53 | Monet | Fully agree |
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| 01:14.57 | Patriot868 | Hello |
| 01:15.55 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 01:16.15 | Patriot868 | so whats going on? |
| 01:16.48 | DrodoEmpire | Not much, not much |
| 01:17.04 | DrodoEmpire | Continued to write the Voidwalker fic |
| 01:17.10 | DrodoEmpire | That was pretty fun' |
| 01:18.00 | Patriot868 | I've mostly been doing some summer courses at college, and watching the news |
| 01:18.30 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 01:19.10 | Patriot868 | Man, stuff is going so fast I can barely keep up |
| 01:28.59 | Tek0516 | One guy at my work really screwed up today. They were carrying a box of 180 eggs when the bottom fell out and broke most of them. Manager was not pleased, to say the least. |
| 01:30.06 | DrodoEmpire | Oh wow |
| 01:32.08 | Wormy_away | And with that thought, of cleaning up a massive egg splurge, I shall go to bed |
| 01:32.16 | Wormy_away | goodnight |
| 01:36.43 | Cyrannian | Goodnight everyone |
| 01:38.26 | Tybusen | Did Wikia change the code for Navboxes? |
| 01:38.43 | Tybusen | It doesn't seem like they're collapsible anymore |
| 01:39.25 | DrodoEmpire | Really? |
| 01:42.29 | Tybusen | Can anyone else confirm this? It could also just be my browser/computer |
| 01:43.01 | DrodoEmpire | Huh. |
| 01:43.05 | DrodoEmpire | Son of a bitch |
| 01:43.08 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, you're right |
| 01:43.18 | Tybusen | shit |
| 01:44.44 | Tybusen | Looks like they did some maintenance several hours ago and that might have messed up something |
| 01:45.08 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
| 01:46.15 | Tybusen | Well, all I know is that they did maintenance |
| 01:46.21 | Tybusen | Don't know if that's what's causing the issue |
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| 02:33.29 | DrodoEmpire_ | welp |
| 02:33.53 | DrodoEmpire_ | News on the community central chat is that there's some gy with hundreds of accounts posting porn and harassing brazilians |
| 02:37.44 | The_Randomness | brazilians? |
| 02:38.31 | DrodoEmpire_ | I came in partway through- apparently one of the epicentres for this drama is the brazilian community central? |
| 02:38.40 | DrodoEmpire_ | I'm still sorta observing |
| 02:38.58 | DrodoEmpire_ | http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Chat |
| 02:39.26 | DrodoEmpire_ | I don't really figure its a big threat or anything, just sorta interested now |
| 03:13.01 | DrodoEmpire_ | There's a fellow Madeon fan on the Community Central chat |
| 03:13.04 | DrodoEmpire_ | yuy |
| 03:47.18 | DrodoEmpire_ | Apparently there'll be an organized attack on the Spanish-language community central in ~10 minutes |
| 03:48.29 | The_Randomness | o_o |
| 03:58.17 | DrodoEmpire_ | Yep, seems like its just about in full swig |
| 03:58.18 | DrodoEmpire_ | *swing |
| 03:58.36 | The_Randomness | what's happening there? |
| 03:58.54 | DrodoEmpire_ | Big attack from a spanish-language satire of wikipedia |
| 03:59.02 | DrodoEmpire_ | thirteen chatbans and counting |
| 03:59.11 | DrodoEmpire_ | They're really machine-gunning these people |
| 04:00.44 | DrodoEmpire_ | Whatever's happening, its confined mostly to the chat- I went on for a short moment and its flying by faster than a twitch stream chat >.< |
| 04:00.59 | DrodoEmpire_ | There's 50+ people on that chat atm |
| 04:01.11 | DrodoEmpire_ | http://comunidad.wikia.com/wiki/Especial:CambiosRecientes# |
| 04:01.15 | DrodoEmpire_ | Used to be 60+ |
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| 04:19.41 | DrodoEmpire_ | Hi |
| 04:20.40 | GD12 | Hey |
| 04:23.24 | DrodoEmpire_ | So there's an 'invasion' of several spanish-language wikis ongoing now |
| 04:23.34 | GD12 | ??? |
| 04:23.45 | DrodoEmpire_ | By users of the former frikipedia- which was the spanish uncyclopedia equivalent |
| 04:24.00 | DrodoEmpire_ | Yeah- just a bunch of nobodies giving the wiki a hard time in their dozens |
| 04:24.18 | DrodoEmpire_ | I predicted it'd fizzle out quickly- and yeah, its a rout :p |
| 04:24.26 | DrodoEmpire_ | Entertaining to watch though |
| 04:31.15 | The_Randomness | we just cleared this fight we've been working on for the first time :D |
| 04:31.33 | DrodoEmpire_ | Hm? |
| 04:33.45 | The_Randomness | in FFXIV |
| 04:33.53 | DrodoEmpire_ | Ahh |
| 04:47.13 | DrodoEmpire_ | Being a war correspondent for board invasions is my new hobby <.< |
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| 04:49.16 | The_Randomness | wut |
| 04:50.49 | DrodoEmpire_ | Hmm? |
| 04:51.47 | The_Randomness | connection got reset |
| 04:52.07 | DrodoEmpire_ | Ah |
| 04:56.41 | The_Randomness | http://imgur.com/a/b1YYY :> |
| 04:58.01 | DrodoEmpire_ | Which game's that? |
| 04:58.11 | The_Randomness | FFXIV |
| 04:58.28 | DrodoEmpire_ | Ahh, right |
| 04:58.30 | The_Randomness | It even says so in the bottom left corner of the images :P |
| 04:58.36 | DrodoEmpire_ | >.< |
| 04:58.45 | DrodoEmpire_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/xixqA |
| 04:59.15 | The_Randomness | o_o |
| 04:59.43 | DrodoEmpire_ | Not the only incredible police sniper story either- I recall the story of one police sniper in the 70s prevented a suicide by shooting the revolver out of the man's hand just as he was going to pull the trigger, saving his life |
| 04:59.55 | The_Randomness | dang |
| 05:00.06 | DrodoEmpire_ | He's regarded as a hero in his hometown today, and to this day remains the only police sniper to've fired a shot on duty |
| 05:00.19 | DrodoEmpire_ | In his town that is |
| 05:00.34 | DrodoEmpire_ | I'll have to find his name, but I remember the details well |
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| 05:07.30 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 05:08.36 | The_Randomness | hey |
| 05:12.38 | Quark8 | What is the time where you're at? Over here it's 1:12 A.M. |
| 05:13.24 | The_Randomness | 12:13 |
| 05:13.28 | The_Randomness | AM |
| 05:13.49 | The_Randomness | And I'm all hyped up since my raid group just cleared this fight we've been working on for a couple months now in FFXIV |
| 05:14.40 | DrodoEmpire_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_(cat) - This is among my favourite wikipedia pages |
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| 05:21.16 | The_Randomness | DrodoEmpire_: o_O |
| 05:23.08 | The_Randomness | That is quite the article |
| 05:23.42 | Quark8 | What was the article? |
| 05:23.53 | The_Randomness | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_(cat) |
| 05:24.40 | DrodoEmpire_ | Larry the Cat, who is the official mouser for the British government |
| 05:29.16 | DrodoEmpire_ | So I'm on the community central |
| 05:29.29 | DrodoEmpire_ | In this time, I've learnt that people are prone to overreacting |
| 05:29.55 | DrodoEmpire_ | This guy's saying that he urgently needs proper wikia staff members because on one belligerent user on his wiki |
| 05:30.00 | DrodoEmpire_ | Just |
| 05:30.14 | DrodoEmpire_ | Why waste their time? >.< Admins exist for a reason |
| 05:30.15 | The_Randomness | lol |
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| 05:44.57 | Quark8 | Hello Spluff5. |
| 05:47.34 | Quark8 | Hm. I'm playing a Game of Thrones simulator with Sporewiki users as members of a house, and so far Randomness has failed to take the Riverlands, Wormulon took Winterfell, Joffrey beheaded me and Randomness was arrested, but won his freedom. |
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| 05:48.04 | Spluff5 | Lol |
| 05:48.13 | Quark8 | And then Randomness failed to take King's Landing. |
| 05:49.17 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 05:49.52 | Quark8 | And all of my allies are dead. Someone, Robert and Joffrey coexisted as kings. |
| 05:54.11 | The_Randomness | What's happened to me? |
| 05:54.34 | Quark8 | For now you're safe and sound. |
| 05:54.59 | The_Randomness | Maybe I'll be able to find a way out of that world |
| 05:55.08 | The_Randomness | It doesn't deserve my presence |
| 05:55.14 | Quark8 | Tek failed to take White Harbor, and Tybunsen took Lannisport, while Drom failed to take Casterly Rock. |
| 05:55.24 | Quark8 | Maybe you will. |
| 06:49.53 | Quark8 | Hm. Master Aemon assassinated Cyrannian. |
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| 07:46.06 | Quark8 | Hello Treebeard. |
| 07:49.54 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 07:50.24 | Quark8 | How are you? |
| 07:52.20 | Treebeard | Good, thanks. And you? |
| 07:53.43 | Quark8 | I am well. Sleepy, but well. |
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| 08:01.15 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 08:01.54 | Quark8 | Hello Ghelae. |
| 08:02.00 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 08:11.07 | Quark8 | Good night guys. |
| 08:13.33 | Treebeard | Good morning |
| 09:49.14 | Treebeard | Test |
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| 10:34.59 | Treebeard | Monet Tek0516: Hello |
| 10:35.14 | Monet | hello |
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| 11:59.53 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 12:00.24 | Monet | HI |
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| 12:25.16 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 12:25.37 | Hachiman | At least 84 dead have reportedly been killed in the Bastille Day terror attack |
| 12:27.01 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 12:27.30 | Wormy_ | I heard |
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| 12:37.21 | Jepardi | Hi |
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| 13:44.59 | Wormy__ | http://imgur.com/gallery/PArE1x6 |
| 13:45.08 | Wormy__ | "Yellow cake" |
| 13:47.17 | Wormy__ | Fallout4 Tiger http://imgur.com/gallery/QyyFz |
| 13:59.17 | Wormy__ | http://imgur.com/gallery/MGLwmRC |
| 14:47.55 | Wormy__ | test |
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| 15:31.16 | Spluff5 | Yo |
| 15:33.02 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 15:33.37 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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| 16:02.18 | Wormy_ | hi |
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| 16:02.45 | GD12 | hi |
| 16:03.21 | Wormy_ | So Theresa May has said she will delay Article 50 until Scotland backs her for a UK-wide approach (assuming that means London too). Effectively, never. |
| 16:03.30 | Wormy_ | hello |
| 16:04.19 | GD12 | Can British people tell me what Theresa May being pm means for the uK? |
| 16:05.38 | Monet | Wormy_: Well for one there could be a few policy changes. |
| 16:05.47 | Monet | GD12 sorry |
| 16:06.11 | Wormy_ | I think she was against Brexit, though she is a Conservative politician (that being said she is quite progressive, pro homosexual marriage, and minimum wage unlike her rival) |
| 16:07.07 | Wormy_ | But she also brought in the Prevent strategy and Snooper's chiarter which is very controvertial, and brought in a ban against all psychoactive substances |
| 16:07.22 | Wormy_ | Except alcohol, tobacco and caffeine |
| 16:07.55 | Monet | She's a Conservative yes, but as mentioned before the party was quite divided on whether Britain should be in or out |
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| 16:08.53 | Wormy_ | Monet: I think she's made a very clever move if she can pull this off. It might attract many pro-Remainers to the Conservative party, especially those disillusioned with Labour's in-fighting. |
| 16:10.15 | Monet | Wormy_: Aye. |
| 16:10.58 | Monet | Dunno what it could do for the SNP although it might take a hit as this is an example of recognising Hollyrood's agenda. |
| 16:12.28 | Wormy_ | Taken today, seems Sturgeon is quite happy https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnaHALQWEAAs9cF.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cnaqf2yXEAAvv-G.jpg |
| 16:13.33 | Monet | She does |
| 16:13.43 | Wormy_ | Lol now the women can clean up the mess made by our male politicians |
| 16:14.01 | Monet | Also I didn't realise Sturgeon was so short. |
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| 16:36.05 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 16:40.38 | Treebeard | Hello |
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| 16:47.01 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 16:51.38 | Treebeard | Hello |
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| 17:02.44 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 17:02.45 | Xho | Hi |
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| 17:08.06 | Monet | Oka I've had a chance to play ESO and I'm liking it. |
| 17:08.09 | OluapPlayer | spo |
| 17:08.20 | Xho | o |
| 17:08.56 | Monet | Combat's fluid, I've yet to find an Auction House system but the world...bloody hell |
| 17:09.50 | Monet | I'm finding campsites everywhere, I've yet to find a village that's just 1-2 buildings and the views I'm finding so far are stunning |
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| 17:19.56 | Spluff5 | I'm back |
| 17:20.04 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
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| 17:29.56 | Treebeard|Away | oops |
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| 17:37.11 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 17:37.24 | Quark8 | Hi. |
| 17:37.53 | Spluff5 | What's happening? |
| 17:39.06 | DrodoEmpire | Not much |
| 17:39.06 | Quark8 | I'm not sure. |
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| 18:09.28 | ImpyDroid | Dear lord why are French attacked so often |
| 18:09.35 | ImpyDroid | The French even |
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| 18:12.11 | GD12_ | Well I don't want to sound racist, but odds are that will happen if even 1% of incoming Islamic migrants is an extremist, coupled with lax EU customs laws |
| 18:12.24 | GD12_ | and the fact that ISIS encourages lone wolf attacks |
| 18:12.26 | DrodoEmpire | Its not racist to say that. :p |
| 18:12.31 | DrodoEmpire | Why would that be racist? |
| 18:12.44 | GD12_ | I'm in California lol |
| 18:12.44 | ImpyDroid | ISIS is multiracial yeah |
| 18:12.49 | GD12_ | gotta preface everything with a trigger warning |
| 18:12.56 | ImpyDroid | One of its highest commanders is white |
| 18:12.59 | ImpyDroid | Was at least |
| 18:13.04 | DrodoEmpire | The migrant crisis is hurting Europe, and fundimentalist Islam is a huge global threat |
| 18:13.04 | ImpyDroid | Now he is black |
| 18:13.09 | ImpyDroid | As in charred black |
| 18:13.10 | Spluff5 | Huh, must have lost connection |
| 18:13.15 | DrodoEmpire | Also Islam isn't a race :p |
| 18:13.20 | GD12_ | true |
| 18:13.26 | ImpyDroid | I have just pointed that out |
| 18:13.46 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 18:13.55 | ImpyDroid | Thing is most attackers I believe are locals |
| 18:14.05 | ImpyDroid | Not recent migrants, but rather radicalised youth |
| 18:14.25 | DrodoEmpire | Right, but terrorist attacks aren't the only problem mass-immigration brings |
| 18:14.29 | ImpyDroid | Of second generation and the like |
| 18:14.36 | GD12_ | There are 6.3 million muslims in France |
| 18:14.40 | ImpyDroid | Of course but what are you going to do |
| 18:14.43 | GD12_ | if 1% of 1% of those are capable and willing |
| 18:14.49 | GD12_ | of carrying out lone wolf attacks |
| 18:14.50 | ImpyDroid | All these people have to go somewhere |
| 18:15.03 | GD12_ | thats 630 people |
| 18:15.08 | ImpyDroid | GD12_: You are missing the point here |
| 18:15.19 | ImpyDroid | The point is not that Muslims are capable of terrorism |
| 18:15.23 | ImpyDroid | That is pretty obvious |
| 18:15.25 | DrodoEmpire | Right- to neighbouring arab countries preferably, though I get that they can suffer stability issues as well |
| 18:15.32 | GD12_ | WEll my point is that terrorism is a numbers game |
| 18:15.38 | ImpyDroid | The point is |
| 18:15.54 | ImpyDroid | You guys are not doing anything and are not capable of stopping it |
| 18:15.56 | ImpyDroid | That is bad |
| 18:16.14 | ImpyDroid | Well not you |
| 18:16.19 | ImpyDroid | Charles is not here is he? |
| 18:16.23 | DrodoEmpire | It doesn't help that many of these migrants aren't fleeing war, but are economic migrants from countries in like North Africa that're exploiting the situation |
| 18:16.25 | ImpyDroid | I mean Europeans |
| 18:16.46 | GD12_ | Charles is in Paris iirc |
| 18:17.02 | ImpyDroid | DrodoEmpire: About Arab countries, okay Pakistan and Turkey are not Arabic but they are Muslim and they accepted most refugees |
| 18:17.14 | ImpyDroid | The numbers here are staggering |
| 18:17.33 | ImpyDroid | Even though as you said many of them are economic migrants |
| 18:17.58 | DrodoEmpire | Right, and I think the fact that many of them 8are* economic is the reason Europe is so flooded |
| 18:18.00 | Monet | ImpyDroid: It might be better to compare the numbers of successful attacks to the number of countered operations before assuming "Europeans are not capable of stopping it" |
| 18:18.03 | ImpyDroid | Sure blocking migration is an issue but fixing the problem of terrorism directly is as important |
| 18:18.19 | ImpyDroid | Monet: I mean that is like |
| 18:18.21 | ImpyDroid | The third time |
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| 18:18.21 | DrodoEmpire | Naturally they're not going to go to a nation that's poorer but much safer as a refugee fleeing war would |
| 18:18.29 | ImpyDroid | And every time it is a fucking massacre |
| 18:18.34 | DrodoEmpire | *poorer than a European nation |
| 18:18.46 | ImpyDroid | Third time in France |
| 18:18.50 | ImpyDroid | Why them of all people |
| 18:19.20 | DrodoEmpire | The police may be unable or unwilling to investigate this stuff, though I don't know |
| 18:19.38 | ImpyDroid | You guys have to do something |
| 18:19.42 | ImpyDroid | Do some propaganda |
| 18:19.46 | ImpyDroid | Scour the cities |
| 18:19.59 | ImpyDroid | I have been thinking |
| 18:20.00 | DrodoEmpire | I'd sooner not see a massive inflation of state power. :p |
| 18:20.22 | ImpyDroid | Do it via militias then |
| 18:20.39 | ImpyDroid | Though these would degenerate into racial migrant attacks pretty quicj |
| 18:20.41 | ImpyDroid | *quick |
| 18:20.49 | Monet | Europeans are already extremely paranoid of more authoritarianism. |
| 18:20.54 | DrodoEmpire | Vigilantes aren't exactly great for dispensing proper justice |
| 18:21.18 | DrodoEmpire | And the police in some countries refuse to tackle this issue *for* fears of being called prejudiced |
| 18:22.00 | Monet | France is one of the nations where that's a real issue isn't it? |
| 18:22.01 | DrodoEmpire | Even though refusing to look at the problem for fear of being called "islamophobic" just gives the bigots power by letting them be the only people discussing it frankly |
| 18:22.23 | ImpyDroid | Yeah |
| 18:22.31 | ImpyDroid | You know I have always been thinking |
| 18:22.38 | ImpyDroid | Call me naive but still |
| 18:23.15 | ImpyDroid | Why can't we start some propaganda effort in Europe's Islamic districts( |
| 18:23.17 | ImpyDroid | ? |
| 18:23.26 | DrodoEmpire | How do you mean? |
| 18:23.41 | ImpyDroid | Some large-scale public programs |
| 18:23.46 | DrodoEmpire | As in inform people as to what fundimentalist Islam looks or sounds like? |
| 18:23.59 | DrodoEmpire | Promote more integration and cooperation for outside the district? |
| 18:24.03 | DrodoEmpire | I'd absolutely agree |
| 18:24.13 | ImpyDroid | Yeah both, that and probably explain why it is dangerous for the Muslim communities |
| 18:24.17 | DrodoEmpire | Maybe also introduce moderate imams and the like |
| 18:24.29 | DrodoEmpire | Right, yeah no I agree |
| 18:24.52 | ImpyDroid | Like put posters and the like |
| 18:24.58 | ImpyDroid | Posters would be great |
| 18:25.03 | DrodoEmpire | Many of these districts are vulnerable to becoming fundimentalist |
| 18:25.14 | DrodoEmpire | Because some are pretty insular |
| 18:25.37 | DrodoEmpire | Posters, yeah |
| 18:25.44 | DrodoEmpire | Education, etc. |
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| 18:26.51 | Cyrannian | Hello everyone |
| 18:27.00 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 18:27.07 | ImpyDroid | I do not like that "KILL ALL MUSLIMS 1488" vs "Accept and do nothing" dichotomy |
| 18:27.23 | ImpyDroid | One can tackle the issue of Islamism without becoming a Nazi in the process |
| 18:27.47 | DrodoEmpire | Well yeah |
| 18:27.48 | ImpyDroid | Oh hi Cyrannian |
| 18:27.55 | Cyrannian | Hai |
| 18:28.08 | DrodoEmpire | The reason it seems polarized is *because* regular people are discouraged from looking at it honestly |
| 18:30.49 | Monet | Moderation is a surprisingly difficult thing to encourage. |
| 18:38.50 | Wormy_ | ImpyDroid, DrodoEmpire: The theory of "social migrants" might solve the problem Impy asked. Basically, different migration routes have slightly different ethnic and religious pathways (also historical ties, language etc.), France has migrants from different countries than the UK. Obviously, some groups have more or less tension or isolation with the host country and the original countries, something fundamentalist groups like ISIS |
| 18:39.09 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 18:39.32 | DrodoEmpire | In that way I assume France gets a lot of Algerians, for example |
| 18:40.26 | Wormy_ | Indeed |
| 18:41.41 | Wormy_ | I think cooperation and integration is key, although it must be tolerant and open rather than making Muslims feel persecuted |
| 18:42.15 | ImpyDroid | ^ that |
| 18:42.22 | DrodoEmpire | I think its important to integrate the war refugees absolutely- but the economic migrants are pretty much trouble. :p |
| 18:42.25 | ImpyDroid | Force tempered by tolerance |
| 18:42.29 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 18:42.49 | DrodoEmpire | Its not the people fleeing war causing the problems, that's for sure |
| 18:43.21 | Wormy_ | I believe Western nations are the most tolerant on Earth, we have learned how to use it, and we can continue to adapt it to whatever the future throws at us |
| 18:43.50 | ImpyDroid | Speaking of which, have you guys read Clash of Civilizations? |
| 18:44.08 | ImpyDroid | Read it recently, found it brilliant |
| 18:44.12 | Wormy_ | Terrorists win if they destroy our openness, tolerance and civil freedoms |
| 18:44.21 | ImpyDroid | Again, that |
| 18:44.48 | ImpyDroid | These right-wingers want Europe to defeat Islamists by becoming like Islamists |
| 18:45.03 | Wormy_ | This is what I fear most in Europe, a co-evolution of terrorism and fascist ideology |
| 18:45.32 | Wormy_ | Much like the co-evolution of neoliberalism and Islamic fundamentalism in the 80's and 90's |
| 18:45.55 | ImpyDroid | If you ask me, I feel like Salafist Islamism is basically the Middle Eastern version of European fascism |
| 18:46.14 | ImpyDroid | Both use the myths of the past |
| 18:46.18 | Wormy_ | Does seem to be |
| 18:46.24 | ImpyDroid | "Make our country GREAT AGAIN" |
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| 18:46.52 | Quark8 | Hello Randomness. |
| 18:46.58 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 18:47.25 | Wormy_ | However, there's also the leftist refusal to admit that there are dangerous ideologies behind terrorist events that seek to destroy Western culture in the first place. That too is co-evolving |
| 18:48.07 | Wormy_ | So its a difficult world for moderately aligned liberals and conservatives |
| 18:48.47 | Wormy_ | I say this because it pushes people to the right |
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| 18:51.55 | The_Randomness | Wormy_: This reminds me of the "walled garden" analogy that I've discussed with somebody in a different channel |
| 18:52.23 | The_Randomness | So, basically, the walled garden has all of the stuff that we consider sane and reasonable in it |
| 18:52.55 | Wormy_ | I suppose, yes. What one considers "moderate" is not someone-else's |
| 18:53.24 | The_Randomness | And, well, outside of it is the stuff that we don't welcome in modern society and stuff like that, or at least, we shouldn't |
| 18:54.28 | The_Randomness | But there's some stuff that lurks on the walls, and it's difficult to get it off the walls, since it takes more work to try and pick it out from the nice vines and stuff you have growing there |
| 18:55.25 | Wormy_ | Walled gardens are not absolutes though, people can adapt to attitude where they consider themselves fallible and open to correcting their own mistakes, or to dissolve boundaries in whatever concept was holding them back from conversing with others. |
| 18:55.35 | The_Randomness | Right, of course |
| 18:55.51 | The_Randomness | I'm not trying to pose this as such |
| 18:56.05 | Wormy_ | What we see in social media arguments however is definitely not that wall-knocking discussion |
| 18:57.20 | The_Randomness | Like, for example, with a lot of leftist stuff, they don't reject things like equal marriage and stuff like that, so it's harder to dismiss/pick apart their arguments easily |
| 18:58.31 | Wormy_ | Yes, it can feel like criticising leftist ideas one is up against things like equal marriage |
| 18:58.58 | The_Randomness | Right, so you need to take a more careful approach here, and it's honestly quite difficult |
| 18:59.14 | Wormy_ | In fact its easy to be mistaken as not caring about socially progressive issues either |
| 19:00.58 | The_Randomness | And this is an example of stuff that you can consider to be "on the garden wall" because it has most of the stuff that you consider to be nice and sane |
| 19:01.15 | The_Randomness | But on the other hand, you have a lot of really weird stuff there |
| 19:02.23 | The_Randomness | And (un)fortunately I've not been exposed to much of it myself, so it's kind of hard to give good examples here |
| 19:03.44 | The_Randomness | And it's also difficult since some of the examples that I'm thinking of require a lot of work and unpacking of terms for me to explain adequately |
| 19:04.10 | Wormy_ | I'm in the same position |
| 19:05.50 | The_Randomness | And there's one example that I can think of that's honestly kind of ugly to talk about |
| 19:06.20 | The_Randomness | But I'm thinking that lies outside of the garden wall in my analogy |
| 19:06.27 | The_Randomness | or rather, in this analogy |
| 19:06.39 | Wormy_ | Most people here live in roughly the same garden |
| 19:06.47 | The_Randomness | yeah |
| 19:06.49 | Wormy_ | so don't worry about discussing it |
| 19:07.18 | Wormy_ | Though maybe on diferent corners or slightly adjcent gardens |
| 19:07.27 | The_Randomness | I just thought I'd bring it up, since it is a useful analogy, and what I came in on reminded me of it |
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| 19:33.34 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/hQIdB |
| 19:34.08 | The_Randomness | lol |
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| 19:40.30 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 19:40.33 | The_Randomness | Hello |
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| 19:42.21 | dino82_ | hi |
| 19:42.43 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 19:47.13 | dino82_ | howz all doing at the wikia! |
| 19:47.27 | OluapPlayer_ | I'm good |
| 19:47.34 | The_Randomness | I'm doing well |
| 19:47.35 | Quark8 | Fine, thank you. You? |
| 19:47.47 | dino82_ | Great to hear! |
| 19:47.51 | dino82_ | Everybody ready for the weekend :D |
| 19:48.38 | The_Randomness | yep |
| 19:49.35 | DrodoEmpire | Hey dino |
| 19:50.09 | dino82_ | Hi |
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| 19:55.10 | Spluff5 | What do you guys think about the idea of the Sanurans (a silicon-based race) having a planet in their solar system that has carbon-based life on it in the form of only vegetation? |
| 19:57.41 | The_Randomness | Like, only plants and photosynthetic life? |
| 20:00.37 | The_Randomness | wb |
| 20:00.40 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 20:01.29 | Ghel | There'd have to be non-photosynthetic microbes too, especially decomposers, but assuming you're just talking about complex life... |
| 20:02.24 | Spluff5 | Yeah |
| 20:02.50 | Spluff5 | It's a contrast to Sanura which only has animal complex life. |
| 20:03.08 | Ghel | A planet where the life is relatively young, e.g. like Earth's Archaean, could well have something analogous to stromatolites as the only form of multicellular life. |
| 20:03.33 | Ghel | So there may not be anything wrong with that state of affairs continuing for much longer. |
| 20:04.36 | Ghel | The only problem is evolutionary plausibility: if you have niches available (e.g. plant-consuming ones), it's unlikely that nothing will arise to take advantage of them. |
| 20:09.56 | The_Randomness | Yeah, that's another thing I was considering |
| 20:11.15 | The_Randomness | Without things to break down all the (dead) plant life, I'd imagine massive fires being an issue, and also the potential of iceball planet events |
| 20:11.35 | The_Randomness | Since taking all that CO2 out of that atmosphere would probably make it cooler, I think |
| 20:11.44 | Ghel | Well, like I said, there'll have to be decomposers. |
| 20:11.47 | The_Randomness | yeah |
| 20:12.09 | Ghel | It does make sense that some of these will evolve into macroscopic forms, like fungi did. |
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| 20:15.30 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Call me stupid but it took me re-investigating the Lusty Argonian Maid to work out why that Maid cosplayer Xho showed might have been grasping her tail like she was. |
| 20:15.49 | Ghel | Although I do wonder about the lack of non-animal life on Sanura. Does geothermal energy produce these crystals which - I assume - must be the siliceous equivalent of amino acids? Or are they produced by chemosynthetic microbes? |
| 20:17.18 | Spluff5 | Initially organically like some theories on earth and yes, there are micro-organisms. Just no macro-plants. |
| 20:19.26 | Spluff5 | Although, large crystals fulfill a similar ecological role in terms of as a food source. |
| 20:19.28 | OluapPlayer_ | slowpoke supreme |
| 20:21.34 | Monet | Yeag this is more one of those cases of "didn't bother contemplating it until actually trying to" |
| 20:24.20 | Monet | Though I do wonder how Argonians get their names |
| 20:24.43 | Monet | I remember there's this one Argonian in Anvil called "Pulls-Ropes-Faster" |
| 20:27.29 | Spluff5 | Anyone know the average distance between stars. |
| 20:29.10 | Ghel | Depends on where you are in the galaxy, but in a neighbourhood like ours, a few light years. |
| 20:29.25 | The_Randomness | Yeah, I was going to say ~1 pc |
| 20:31.29 | Ghel | Actually, average star density being about 0.004 stars per cubic light year, that gives 7.8 ly. |
| 20:31.35 | Ghel | Or maybe that should be 3.9. |
| 20:32.56 | Xho_Busy | OluapPlayer_: Just went past 3000 screenshots on this video |
| 20:33.00 | Xho_Busy | xho must stop now |
| 20:33.15 | OluapPlayer_ | video train has no breaks |
| 20:33.23 | Xho_Busy | or brakes |
| 20:33.29 | Xho_Busy | no brake breaks |
| 20:33.31 | Xho_Busy | just nothing |
| 20:33.32 | OluapPlayer_ | braeks |
| 20:36.30 | Xho_Busy | I'm very nearly finished with it though |
| 20:36.39 | Xho_Busy | Might finish it tonight even |
| 20:36.46 | OluapPlayer_ | gut |
| 20:46.36 | Technobliterator | yay for going to Star Wars Celebration soon |
| 20:47.20 | Cyrannian | is jealous |
| 20:48.15 | dino82_ | bye bye |
| 20:50.38 | Technobliterator | I will see things like the new Rogue One footage and maybe the new Episode VIII title approximately 3 minutes before the rest of the world |
| 20:50.39 | Technobliterator | :P |
| 20:51.02 | The_Randomness | (y) |
| 20:51.24 | ImpyDroid | STAR WARS SUUUUCK |
| 20:51.27 | ImpyDroid | Yes I am a heretic |
| 20:51.35 | Wormy_ | Burn the witch |
| 20:51.38 | ImpyDroid | Feel free to burn me on the pyre of your own choice |
| 20:51.48 | Wormy_ | Burned and ninja'd |
| 20:52.39 | ImpyDroid | I am actually sometimes puzzled by the popularity of Star Wars, although my judgement is skewed somewhat by the fact that I saw Phantom Menace first |
| 20:53.10 | ImpyDroid | Yes for me (and apparently my sister) Star Wars began with Jar Jar |
| 20:53.23 | Cyrannian | I always assumed you were a fan hur |
| 20:54.09 | Cyrannian | I like Jar Jar as a kid because he looked vaguely like a dinosaur (I'm pretty sure I saw Phantom Menace first too) |
| 20:54.33 | ImpyDroid | I am a fan but I am not a *fan* fan |
| 20:55.10 | ImpyDroid | Hard to describe but Star Wars was never my main fandom or something |
| 20:55.16 | Ghel | I know I saw TPM first. But I also know I was so young I don't remember it. First Star Wars film I remember seeing was ROTS in the cinema, followed by me falling asleep not long into ANH which my dad insisted we should watch when we got back. |
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| 20:56.43 | ImpyDroid | I remember watching Revenge of the Sith in a movie theater |
| 20:56.46 | ImpyDroid | As a kid |
| 20:56.51 | Tybusen | Hello |
| 20:56.52 | Cyrannian | Ah, so do I |
| 20:56.52 | ImpyDroid | It was a pretty horrifying experience |
| 20:56.55 | ImpyDroid | Hi Tyb |
| 20:56.56 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 20:56.57 | Cyrannian | Hi |
| 20:57.03 | ImpyDroid | Palpatine scared me a lot |
| 20:57.07 | Monet | I feel like the oddball now |
| 20:57.21 | ImpyDroid | Especially since I did not understand why he turned old and decrepit |
| 20:57.26 | Monet | I swear my first experience of Star Wars was watching the original trilogy video collection |
| 20:57.44 | Cyrannian | I only really remember the duel though, wondering who was going to die (even though I'm pretty sure I knew both of them were in the next movie) |
| 20:58.09 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:58.18 | ImpyDroid | This reminded me of that time when I played SWTOR as a smuggler |
| 20:58.30 | ImpyDroid | I used that grenade ability while my sister was watching |
| 20:58.42 | ImpyDroid | She asked me if it was a "boom-boom" that Jar-Jar used |
| 20:58.58 | ImpyDroid | Now I forever associate TOR smugglers with Gungans |
| 20:59.19 | ImpyDroid | *will forever |
| 20:59.36 | Quark8 | Palpatine reminded me of my grandfather, until ROTS. |
| 21:07.29 | Cyrannian | Not!Sidious Palpatine, I hope |
| 21:09.35 | Quark8 | No, not him. |
| 21:10.41 | Quark8 | The old-looking Palpatine. |
| 21:11.33 | Xho_Busy | You guys seen what's going on in Turkey |
| 21:11.35 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/YEjWkD6 |
| 21:11.44 | Xho_Busy | Apparently the military have overthrown the state |
| 21:11.46 | Wormy_ | Nope? |
| 21:12.07 | DrodoEmpire | Jesus- really? |
| 21:12.19 | Quark8 | I thought it was just an attempt? |
| 21:12.47 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah it seems like the coup was successful |
| 21:12.49 | Wormy_ | ongoing http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36809083 |
| 21:12.58 | DrodoEmpire | Oh nvm |
| 21:13.05 | DrodoEmpire | But I doubt they'll *be* unsuccessful |
| 21:13.08 | Xho_Busy | So we wake up to a terrorist attack in Nice and go to bed with a military coup in Turkey |
| 21:13.12 | Xho_Busy | shit's fucked up m8 |
| 21:14.33 | Wormy_ | Apparentely its a group of the army and wasn't authorised from the top chain of command, so whether it will lead to a conflict or will just stop I don't know |
| 21:14.56 | Wormy_ | There's word of gunshots though that could be anyone |
| 21:15.40 | Quark8 | They've blocked the Bosporus Bridge. |
| 21:15.47 | Quark8 | *with soldiers |
| 21:15.52 | Xho_Busy | Tanks are in the streets according to reports |
| 21:16.06 | Technobliterator | Is it because of Erdogan? |
| 21:16.59 | Monet | There's probably a bunch of reasons. |
| 21:17.13 | Wormy_ | I think they might have won, martial law was just announced and the army chief held http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-36811357 |
| 21:18.40 | Monet | I don't like the sound of that peace council. |
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| 21:19.05 | ColliNOS | hello |
| 21:19.25 | Quark8 | At least Erdogan is safe. |
| 21:19.30 | Monet | Hello |
| 21:19.30 | Quark8 | Hello ColliNOS. |
| 21:20.10 | DrodoEmpire | Hi there |
| 21:20.28 | ColliNOS | hwody |
| 21:20.31 | ColliNOS | howdy* |
| 21:20.54 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 21:20.55 | DrodoEmpire | So, I sorta wanted to discuss your fiction, and to help improve it if that's alright |
| 21:21.18 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Stomajaw_Empire - This one |
| 21:21.39 | ColliNOS | yeah |
| 21:21.51 | Wormy_ | DrodoEmpire, ImpyDroid: What the hell https://twitter.com/Ali_MuhammadPTI/status/754062543908405249?lang=en-gb |
| 21:22.17 | The_Randomness | wot |
| 21:22.21 | DrodoEmpire | how very peaceful |
| 21:22.22 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 21:22.51 | DrodoEmpire | So I take it you've read a bit about the rules, ColliNOS? |
| 21:23.02 | DrodoEmpire | I take it you know some about the Tier system and stuff |
| 21:23.10 | OluapPlayer_ | Xho_Busy: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWTev_XgAAddgh.jpg |
| 21:23.18 | Xho_Busy | KEK |
| 21:23.37 | ColliNOS | i read some of the rules. but i didnt get to all of them, |
| 21:23.52 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh, so I see |
| 21:24.00 | Xho_Busy | Oh great now my friend and I are Baneposting over the coup |
| 21:24.16 | DrodoEmpire | Well, I guess I'll run through some of the stuff I took issue with, and explain the rules behind it |
| 21:24.18 | OluapPlayer_ | You're big guys |
| 21:24.25 | Xho_Busy | "DOES IT FEEL LIKE YOU'RE IN CHARGE" "YOU HAVE ERDOGAN ROLLING AROUND THE CITY 24/7 LOOKING FOR STRAWBERRIES" "THIS IS YOUR GOVERNMENT WITHOUT FIBRE" |
| 21:24.28 | DrodoEmpire | First the infobox |
| 21:24.51 | DrodoEmpire | Its *really* not good form to start a new empire huge or advanced |
| 21:25.01 | DrodoEmpire | Especially as a new user |
| 21:25.18 | DrodoEmpire | While it is tempting to start as a Tier one or Tier two, keep in mind what that means |
| 21:25.20 | Cyrannian | I just saw a comment that the military was playing Pokemon GO and found a Pikachu inside government buildings |
| 21:25.30 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 21:25.35 | DrodoEmpire | A tier one's like the scale and advancement of the Galactic Empire |
| 21:25.46 | DrodoEmpire | (From Star Wars) |
| 21:25.51 | Wormy_ | Apparentely people cheering the military https://twitter.com/neontaster/status/754061142373244928?lang=en-gb |
| 21:26.23 | ColliNOS | ok well can i brb fore a minute. i need to get my phone |
| 21:26.43 | Monet | Wormy_: They ousted Erdrogan so its somewhat understandable. |
| 21:26.48 | DrodoEmpire | That's fine |
| 21:27.21 | Wormy_ | https://twitter.com/DannyMcBride/status/754057390136385537?lang=en-gb |
| 21:27.41 | Wormy_ | https://twitter.com/SteveBlogs1/status/754061657408696320?lang=en-gb |
| 21:28.09 | Wormy_ | BoJo is really meme worthy |
| 21:28.34 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 21:28.40 | Xho_Busy | HIT THE DECK |
| 21:29.26 | Monet | Screw it I'll paint something happy tonight to offset the foreboding. |
| 21:30.20 | DrodoEmpire | I look forward to it : |
| 21:30.26 | DrodoEmpire | *:D |
| 21:30.33 | DrodoEmpire | (I presume you're streaming?) |
| 21:31.23 | Quark8 | It says that Erdogan is still in power: http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-36811357 |
| 21:32.07 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: Yes |
| 21:32.13 | DrodoEmpire | cool cool |
| 21:32.34 | ColliNOS | ook im back |
| 21:32.52 | DrodoEmpire | Alrigh |
| 21:32.53 | DrodoEmpire | *t |
| 21:32.54 | Monet | QUurk8: Time will tell |
| 21:32.56 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Sundering_of_the_Cognatus/War_of_Cleansing - New fiction with OluapPlayer_ |
| 21:33.03 | OluapPlayer_ | bwah |
| 21:33.19 | OluapPlayer_ | Yes check that out |
| 21:34.21 | ColliNOS | ok so im not tier one or 2. so for a new user what would it be |
| 21:35.07 | OluapPlayer_ | Cyrannian: Great job with the pictures |
| 21:35.34 | DrodoEmpire | Alright, so a good tier level to begin as a new nation would be between Tiers 5 (which is early interstellar) to low Tier three |
| 21:35.41 | DrodoEmpire | I strongly encourage you start around four |
| 21:35.58 | DrodoEmpire | Which is about where the Federation from Star Trek sits |
| 21:36.29 | ColliNOS | ok. and i probably wont get star trek references or star wars. since im not much of a fan... sorry >.< |
| 21:36.38 | DrodoEmpire | Its just a rough referent |
| 21:36.45 | ColliNOS | ok |
| 21:36.47 | DrodoEmpire | But yeah pretty low technology to begin with |
| 21:37.00 | Wormy_ | People are tweeting that Erdogan is telling his people he is still in control on Facetime (https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/754064835718119426), so he is obviously in no position to, and probably fleeing |
| 21:37.06 | DrodoEmpire | Also, size |
| 21:37.16 | DrodoEmpire | New nations start pretty small |
| 21:37.36 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not sure what the million-something figure represents, but if it represents planets *or* star systems its too high |
| 21:37.41 | Wormy_ | https://twitter.com/MahirZeynalov/status/754066540945936384 |
| 21:37.43 | DrodoEmpire | A couple thousand's plenty starting out |
| 21:37.53 | ColliNOS | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:38.27 | DrodoEmpire | Now if you want to keep population unknown, that's alright. But just so you know population in the fictionverse is often counted in the trillions |
| 21:38.50 | ColliNOS | okay |
| 21:39.13 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer_, Cyrannian, really interesting :o |
| 21:39.40 | DrodoEmpire | Government style seems really unstable but if a hivemind monarchy is what you want that's okay |
| 21:39.56 | ColliNOS | yeah thats okay |
| 21:39.59 | OluapPlayer_ | yus |
| 21:40.15 | DrodoEmpire | As for size of the military- eleven million what? |
| 21:40.27 | OluapPlayer_ | Xho_Busy: Garry: "Turkish army taking their Pokemon Gym way too serious" |
| 21:40.34 | ColliNOS | soldiers |
| 21:41.02 | DrodoEmpire | Right, so eleven million personnel's pretty small for a spacefaring nation of several trillion |
| 21:41.19 | DrodoEmpire | Number of personnel could easily be a few billion |
| 21:41.43 | DrodoEmpire | Also- currency isn't asking what's *in* the treasury- its asking what the national currency *is* |
| 21:42.19 | ColliNOS | okay |
| 21:42.31 | DrodoEmpire | So I might come up with a national currency |
| 21:42.35 | DrodoEmpire | If I were you |
| 21:42.57 | DrodoEmpire | Age's... really way too big >.< |
| 21:43.00 | DrodoEmpire | Sorry |
| 21:43.19 | ColliNOS | its fine. |
| 21:43.20 | DrodoEmpire | For reference- the universe is only about 13 and a half *billion* years old |
| 21:43.36 | ColliNOS | okay |
| 21:43.43 | DrodoEmpire | It'd be physically impossible for anything at all be older than that |
| 21:44.20 | DrodoEmpire | Keep in mind most states aren't that old, and by their nature don't often last longer than a few hundred years |
| 21:44.38 | ColliNOS | ok |
| 21:44.54 | DrodoEmpire | I'd say the upper limit on a country's age when introduced, barring some exceptions, would be a few hundred years |
| 21:45.02 | DrodoEmpire | The actual government itself anyway |
| 21:45.26 | DrodoEmpire | So that's the infobox, sorry if it seems I'm putting you through the wringer. >.< |
| 21:45.43 | ColliNOS | its fine. i understand your not |
| 21:45.48 | Cyrannian | OluapPlayer_: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/271723349509909085/52E2F170DA3701FBEC831C54794228E308832C7A/ - ngh |
| 21:46.02 | DrodoEmpire | Another thing too- Placing it in the milky way is fine (I encourage it actually)- but there is a very strict rule against new galaxies |
| 21:46.07 | OluapPlayer_ | dat old capricornian |
| 21:46.25 | DrodoEmpire | As far as I know you can't even have it as part of a backstory without special permission |
| 21:46.36 | ColliNOS | yeah. ima take it down |
| 21:46.42 | DrodoEmpire | Alright great |
| 21:46.58 | ColliNOS | but me saying from an unknown galaxy, in a story is fine righ |
| 21:47.01 | ColliNOS | right* |
| 21:47.29 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh, I'm gonna say... nnoo...? |
| 21:47.47 | ColliNOS | ok |
| 21:47.54 | DrodoEmpire | As far I know, the galaxies in the fictionverse are *all that there are* anymore, after some big disasters and stuff |
| 21:47.57 | DrodoEmpire | They |
| 21:48.07 | DrodoEmpire | *They're the only ones even remotely in range anyway |
| 21:48.37 | DrodoEmpire | I'd work on your formatting for the page, as well- to make headers, you put "==" to either side of the word |
| 21:48.52 | DrodoEmpire | So for example, "==History==" for a header for a history section |
| 21:48.54 | ColliNOS | ok. also. im taking it down right now. the galaxy |
| 21:48.59 | DrodoEmpire | Alright |
| 21:49.14 | DrodoEmpire | You can add more equals signs to either side to make smaller and smaller headers |
| 21:49.41 | Wormy_ | https://twitter.com/Modmuffin/status/754065656329408512 |
| 21:50.59 | Quark8 | Heh. |
| 21:52.15 | Cyrannian | ColliNOS: Historically, the Gigaquadrant consisted of dozens of galaxies, most of which were destroyed relatively recently. So it should be no problem to say that your empire originated in a galaxy which has since been destroyed or lost. |
| 21:52.33 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh fair enough |
| 21:52.47 | ColliNOS | thats what i meant by unknown. like it no longer is a thing |
| 21:52.54 | DrodoEmpire | They could've fled as refugees and set up somewhere else |
| 21:54.11 | Monet | http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-HAPiE_EwqQ-45QRbCl4Nw/live starting stream soon |
| 22:00.21 | ColliNOS | im gonna be back in a while. ima go play spore |
| 22:04.24 | DrodoEmpire | Oka |
| 22:04.25 | DrodoEmpire | *y |
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| 22:15.33 | Quark8 | Hello Tek. |
| 22:16.17 | Tek0516 | Hey. Always forget to sign back into this. |
| 22:20.47 | Quark8 | brb |
| 22:31.39 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/OefHLO5.jpg |
| 22:34.02 | Tek0516 | So there is apparently a military coup underway in Turkey. |
| 22:34.43 | Wormy_ | Indeed |
| 22:47.54 | Wormy_ | I''ve been watching a live stream of a bridge outside Instanbul, protesters arrived trying to get through and I heard gunshots and screaming. Then the Fox news broadcast zoomed out and they reported that some people had been injured https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mq5hrUDoYo |
| 22:48.41 | Wormy_ | so the military could well be firing on civilians |
| 22:50.55 | DrodoEmpire | Jesus Christ |
| 22:54.56 | Wormy_ | They might be firing in the air and causing a stampede, injuring the ones mentioned. Dunno |
| 22:58.31 | Quark8|Busy | Erdogan is apparently calling his followers onto the streets. |
| 23:01.53 | Wormy_ | Also, it seems the army of Turkey has split in two factions |
| 23:02.46 | Wormy_ | It was just reported that a jet shot down a helicopter operated by the coup |
| 23:06.23 | Quark8|Busy | Helicopters are also firing at ground targets in Ankara |
| 23:11.59 | Wormy_ | Here's a video that might be them shooting at civilians (graphic) >https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/754090386038124544 |
| 23:19.06 | Quark8|Busy | At least seventeen police officers have been killed, says Anadolu news agency. |
| 23:20.19 | Wormy_ | Dunno if true but Kim Kardashian tweeted whether it was Thanksgiving https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/754085555424538625 |
| 23:22.03 | Wormy_ | *but people are saying |
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| 23:44.05 | Quark8|Busy | Hello Liquid Ink. |
| 23:45.30 | Liquid_Ink | Hey |
| 23:53.43 | Quark8|Busy | Did you hear about the Turkish coup? |
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