IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160713

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00:17.15The_RandomnessHello
00:21.46dromAnyway. Wormy_
00:22.04Wormy_hi
00:22.20dromI kinda wonder what kind of "safe" armament my ship crew would have in a micro-gravity environment
00:28.47NeonPandadefine safe
00:29.15NeonPandabecause if you mean "won't destroy the ship from the inside" you're basically talking civilian small arms with an emphasis on stopping power over penetration
00:30.24DrodoEmpireYeah pretty much
00:30.55DrodoEmpireThe Drodo sidearm for all military branches and a few other govt. departments (including the federal police) is a .45 pistol
00:31.10DrodoEmpireWhich is a decent example of such a civilian small arm
00:33.19NeonPandaanother good example is a shotgun equivalent; shotguns are used on naval vessels as anti-boarding weapons because they're excellent at making fleshy things less alive while not being so good at putting holes in metal
00:33.44The_Randomness"making fleshy things less alive" - sounds about right
00:33.44NeonPandaboth being desirable traits when not having holes in metal is important to the ship's ability to float
00:34.07DrodoEmpireRight
00:38.12MonetWell that rules out rail- and plasma guns
00:39.05DrodoEmpireDrodo are pretty well set here <.<
00:39.13NeonPandacould always go for a good old fashioned chemical-propelled rubber bullet
00:39.34NeonPandathey hurt like hell and if you miss you just get a game of extreme ping-pong
00:39.56DrodoEmpireThey combine chemical propellant and magnetic accelerators in a lot of their military-grade weapons, but the magnetic accelerators *could* be removed or deactivated if necessary
00:40.13DrodoEmpireThe chemical propellant is effective on its own, anyway
00:50.46NeonPandainteresting biotech of the day: a chinese company has developed a means of 3d printing artificial rhino horns that match the makeup and structure of natural horn, and plan to mass produce them to flood the market at 1/8th the price of natural horn, eventually aiming to drive poachers out of business
00:51.18MonetClever idea
00:51.57The_Randomness^
00:52.43MonetIt won't eliminate the market - there's probably some eccentric who would prefer rhino horn from the source but I think they're a minority in the market.
00:56.11The_RandomnessThat's pretty cool though
00:56.52dromWhat if the invaders don metal armour, Panda?
00:57.12DrodoEmpireDepends on the armour
00:57.36DrodoEmpireSome firearms are better than others at piercing body armour, and some body armour is better than others at deflecting bullets
00:57.57DrodoEmpireAnd at extreme close range, like in starship corridors, it probably doesn't matter much :p
00:58.01NeonPandadrom: it's not unreasonable to imagine a munition designed to impart sheer kinetic energy without penetrating- if you hit something with enough force you're going to cause trauma whether or not you actually get through their armour
00:58.10DrodoEmpire^
00:58.16NeonPandawhich is the kind of ammunition you're going for anyway
00:59.10DrodoEmpireMost late medieval weapons were meant to simply impart blunt force trauma on a target in heavy plate armour, instead of defeating the armour itself
00:59.14NeonPandain fact that's the basic principle of how chivalry-era war hammers work (discounting ones which rely on spikes)
01:00.09NeonPandaswinging replica war hammers at watermelons is serious fun until you realise those melons are reasonable approximations for human heads
01:00.17dromI love pole-axes.
01:00.42NeonPandathen you kinda just back away and let it dawn on you how easily you could actually turn someone's head to chunky salsa
01:00.57DrodoEmpirePollaxes are pretty savage weapons
01:01.24dromIndeed they are
01:01.28NeonPandamy personal favourite is the halberd, but I have a soft spot for war swords
01:01.38DrodoEmpireYeah I love halberds
01:02.00dromI imagine how you would use poleaxes and halberds in space, if there would be a reason to
01:02.06DrodoEmpireHalberds, pollaxes, and partizans
01:02.13dromIt would just send you spinning, becasue physics
01:02.22DrodoEmpireThose'd be my favourite polearms
01:02.24NeonPandahalberds are just lovely, they can deal with basically any battlefield threat
01:02.34DrodoEmpireYeah they're really versitile
01:02.53DrodoEmpireMedieval Europe had a definite talent for warfare, for sure
01:03.30DrodoEmpireWhat they lacked was administrative/governmental sophistication for a long time
01:03.31DrodoEmpire:p
01:05.23NeonPandatbh basically everyone at one point or another was quite good at their own form of warfare, what makes it interesting is how diverse those forms of warfare got
01:05.35dromWormy_: So I picked up this game. http://i.imgur.com/wjFPuwi.jpg
01:05.42NeonPandaand the cultural and practical reasons for the difference
01:05.48DrodoEmpire^
01:06.29NeonPandalike pre-white people Zulus
01:06.51DrodoEmpireFor sure, but I mean late medieval knights especially made for some fine heavy cavalry
01:06.53NeonPandafor them it was more important to keep people alive than win land, so they mostly hucked spears at each other from long range until one side or another had enough and went home
01:07.34NeonPandait was only when they got imported staple crops and could flourish in numbers that land became more valuable than lives, and suddenly out came the stabby stabbies and people started dying
01:07.53DrodoEmpireRight, yeah
01:09.13NeonPandaand then you have the territory dispute between Canada and Denmark (or is it Greenland?), which is possibly the most amazing thing I've ever heard of
01:09.15dromThe_Randomness, where is Hachiman? http://i.imgur.com/EGvzLNJ.png
01:09.30The_Randomnesslol
01:09.36NeonPandathey're "fighting" over an island, and basically all they do is sneak over every so often to take down the other country's flag and leave a bottle of liquor
01:09.51The_Randomnesslol
01:10.08The_RandomnessSo, it's like international capture the flag?
01:10.10dromNeonPanda: Hans Island
01:10.16NeonPandabasically
01:10.25NeonPandaalthough more like King of the Hill I'd say
01:10.51DrodoEmpireYeah I've heard of that conflict
01:11.20NeonPandalike, every time I'm reminded about that I just crack up laughing
01:11.20DrodoEmpireLet me tell you as a Canadian- it'll be the *Danes* saying sorry once we're done
01:11.21DrodoEmpire<.<
01:12.10NeonPandadone doing what, knocking over their flag and leaving a bottle of schnapps or whatever with a sorry-not-sorry note? :P
01:12.41DrodoEmpireUh, yeah, that.
01:13.42DrodoEmpireIf this terrible conflict goes on much longer, we'll might have to escalate it significantly- asking them to "please stop"
01:13.46dromThe_Randomness, http://i.imgur.com/QjZrTih.png
01:13.54dromThe bottom to right.
01:14.22The_Randomness"You use your Remington 870 to keep warm" - seems legit
01:15.10NeonPandadrom: that reminds me of when an army instructor taught our senior cadet group how to start a fire with a shotgun shell and a claymore mine
01:15.46NeonPandayou basically just use the primer cap to ignite the plastic explosive, still pretty nifty
01:16.09dromNeonPanda: That is, putting a shitton of dry grass on top of the claymore and hope the slug hits it+
01:16.12dromnevermind
01:16.39dromBut yes, that sounds nifty.
01:16.48dromYou can use ice to start a fire too.
01:16.50NeonPandafun fact: composite plastic explosives don't explode if set on fire; only an electric current causes them to actually detonate
01:17.17The_Randomnessyep
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01:18.12dromC4 are wonderful things
01:18.47DrodoEmpireHi Charles
01:18.59DrodoEmpireWe're learning how to start fires using plastic explosives
01:19.00DrodoEmpire:D
01:19.46dromNeonPanda: The more you know *insert sound effect here*
01:20.08dromThe_Randomness: https://i.sli.mg/KSK7A8.png
01:20.34The_Randomness...ok
01:20.49NeonPandaum
01:20.58DrodoEmpireO- Oh.
01:24.05dromSomeone put a lockpicking kit to the right use http://i.imgur.com/iOatGtU.png
01:25.06The_Randomness:P
01:27.18NeonPandaI'm now kinda wondering what Cyberpunk2020 roles the IRC regulars would fit, like Techno and Xho would be Rockers hands down, Monet's a Corporate,
01:27.54NeonPandaWormy I kinda imagine as a slightly mental Fixer (aka information broker)
01:28.54NeonPandathis prompted by the discussion Random and I are having in a side chat about a cyberpunk game I will be running at some point in the future
01:30.43DrodoEmpireHuh cool
01:30.53dromThe_Randomness: http://i.imgur.com/HxHuwwz.png
01:32.05dromBlobs don't have feet
01:32.10The_Randomness:P
01:32.32NeonPandaCharles I kinda imagine as a eurosolo, basically James Bond but french
01:33.59NeonPandaHachi would be the guy who gets a skillchip for Seduction to make up for his low-roll Empathy and Attractiveness
01:34.25NeonPandathere's one in every team, trust me XD
01:34.33The_Randomnesslol
01:37.08dromThe_Randomness: http://i.imgur.com/kDgzIMj.png
01:37.30The_RandomnessThat doesn't sound healthy
01:39.47NeonPandaand for something that a christian would say I'm going to hell for finding funny: someone found a Koffing inside a Holocaust memorial museum
01:40.28drom"The whole screen was covered with zombies. With my last breath, I pulled the pin on the mininuke I was carrying. And wake up one day." http://i.imgur.com/Y8anYLx.png
01:41.57The_Randomnessrip
01:45.04dromNeonPanda The_Randomness: http://i.imgur.com/agVJA1w.png
01:48.01dromSomeone is having fun with a lightning bolt gun https://youtu.be/-vrJz4zYwjc
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01:49.09Quark8Hello.
01:49.17The_RandomnessHello
01:49.20dromHey
01:50.04drom"You know how badass I am. -- I'm smoking death nettle right now."
01:53.47Wormy_Heh
01:54.08Wormy_I;m skulking around a vault in Fallout 4 with terrifying deranged robots
01:55.00Wormy_These cyclops-androids fire a red beam that distintigrates you on contact, they can also sneak up behind, drag you, drill you into your head etc
01:55.25Wormy_Everything lights up red when they fire this beam and they make horrible mechanical sounds
01:55.40Wormy_They also hunt you down and spot you hiding
02:01.31Quark8Bleck. My Steam seems to be non-opening.
02:01.46Charles_Bot"CLEVELAND -- The Platform Committee of the Republican Party has backed the inclusion of a wall along the southern border with Mexico, embracing an immigration proposal that Donald Trump put at the center of his presidential campaign but that many say is impossible because of cost and logistical challenges."
02:01.50Charles_BotWat
02:02.32The_Randomness^
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02:02.48Charles_BotGo home GOP
02:02.53Charles_BotYou're drunk
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02:23.53Wormy_bye
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03:34.59DrodoEmpirehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP5OLmL0hBE - This game was the shit
03:43.11The_Randomness<FIRE IN THE HOLE>
03:45.09DrodoEmpireolol
03:45.26DrodoEmpireBut seriously that gameplay brings back memories >.< I used to be decent at CSS
03:45.31DrodoEmpireNow its allabout CS:GO
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03:46.15DrodoEmpireHi
03:49.28Spluff5Hello
03:49.46Spluff5I have decided how to write, at least at the start.
03:50.24DrodoEmpireOkay
03:50.33DrodoEmpireWhere're you placing your fiction, by the way?
03:53.46Spluff5Perseus Arm
03:53.50Spluff5Near the core
03:53.55DrodoEmpireOf the Milky Way?
03:53.55DrodoEmpireRight
03:53.55Spluff5200,000 years ago.
03:54.02DrodoEmpireRight
03:54.19DrodoEmpireHave you any got any plans for modern-day fictions?
03:54.20Spluff5Is there any other Perseus arm?
03:54.28Spluff5Possibly
03:55.02DrodoEmpireNot that I know of, pardon the fact I am not an astronomer. :p
03:55.05DrodoEmpireAnyway
03:55.25DrodoEmpireI'd recommend it, as it'll provide more fiction opportunities
03:56.08Spluff5Yeah, I can start fresh. I do want to finish this idea I started and the best way to do that is with a semi-blank slate.
03:56.46DrodoEmpireRight.
03:59.42Spluff5The first story I'm going to write is first contact between the Sanurans and the rest of the Coalition.
03:59.57DrodoEmpireI see
04:04.57Spluff5How do you mak an indented bullet point list on the wiki
04:04.58Spluff5?
04:07.57DrodoEmpireI believe just by using asterisks
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04:28.54DrodoEmpireHi
04:30.01The_Randomnessrip
04:52.18Spluff5Que Mad World
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10:06.22Charles_Murray*yawns profusely* Good morning
10:06.27Charles_MurrayIt's 6:06 here xD
10:06.32Charles_Murrayam
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10:43.50HachimanHi Imp
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12:22.28MonetQuiet today
12:26.35ImpyDroidGhelae Monet: What effect would low gravity have on planetary geology?
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12:27.45GhelaeImpyDroid: As this is geology, I'm going to beep Wormy_ into this as well.
12:27.48GhelaeHello.
12:28.14Wormy_There would be quite a few differences
12:28.15MonetTaller mountains is one possibility.
12:28.31ImpyDroidHi
12:28.34MonetThough that one can also be done with less volcanism.
12:28.34GhelaeMore extreme landforms like taller mountains is what I was thinking of.
12:29.03ImpyDroidI am thinking of some sort of impossible structures - cliffs of strange shapes and the like
12:29.11GhelaeBecause mountains can only get so high before they're so heavy they fall under their own weight. Lower gravity = more rock before this happens.
12:29.13ImpyDroidHi OluapPlayer
12:29.55GhelaeI'm sure he'll be back soon.
12:30.09OluapPlayerGreeted so hard he exploded
12:30.28GhelaeOn a related topic, Wormy_, are you still planning to write up the super-collab geology?
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12:31.00Wormy_I am yes, I need to cover quite a bit
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12:31.26JepardiHi
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12:32.46ImpyDroidFuck this Android
12:33.18Wormy_I think planets that are much smaller than Earth would also cool more quickly, that means a thicker lithosphere that can support higher volcanoes as well
12:33.31OluapPlayerHi
12:33.37MonetImpyDroid: Lower gravity might allow more unstable structures like this https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Weisse_W%C3%BCste.jpg to form more easily, and less likely to collapse
12:34.34Monethttp://www.rediscoveringthegoldenstate.com/wp-content/gallery/chapter3/ca-geog-geomorphology-011.jpg though stuff like this is more shaped by wind erosion.
12:35.41Wormy_Only if the planet can hold onto a dense enough atmosphere though for wind pressure to be strong enough to speed up such erosion
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12:36.33ImpyDroidI now understand how Oluap feels
12:36.36ImpyDroidAnd speaking of which
12:36.45ImpyDroidHachiman OluapPlayer: http://imgur.com/xjP7Gx6
12:37.13OluapPlayerStep up ruskie
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12:38.04ImpyDroidFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU-
12:38.10ImpyDroidDid you see the last pic?
12:38.13OluapPlayerYes
12:38.18OluapPlayerI've seen it before
12:38.22ImpyDroidAh
12:38.39OluapPlayerwelcome to the matriarchy
12:38.39ImpyDroidWormy_ Ghelae: Did you guys say anything?
12:38.52Ghelae[13:33] <Wormy_> I think planets that are much smaller than Earth would also cool more quickly, that means a thicker lithosphere that can support higher volcanoes as well
12:38.57Ghelae[13:33] <Monet> ImpyDroid: Lower gravity might allow more unstable structures like this https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Weisse_W%C3%BCste.jpg to form more easily, and less likely to collapse
12:39.01Ghelae[13:34] <Monet> http://www.rediscoveringthegoldenstate.com/wp-content/gallery/chapter3/ca-geog-geomorphology-011.jpg though stuff like this is more shaped by wind erosion.
12:39.05Ghelae[13:35] <Wormy_> Only if the planet can hold onto a dense enough atmosphere though for wind pressure to be strong enough to speed up such erosion
12:39.25Wormy_I've also got more to add on why volcanoes are so effing big on Mars
12:39.38ImpyDroidI am trying to figure out what effects would orbiting a gas giant have for Sanctuarium
12:39.56ImpyDroidCould there be long periods of eclipse?
12:40.46Wormy_The crust on Mars is more stationary, likely due to its thickness, so it allows magma to build up under the volcano for much longer.
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12:42.18ImpyDroidAAAAAAAAH
12:42.21GhelaeOne part of Sanctuarium's day-night cycle is going to be whether the moon is tidally locked to the gas giant. If it isn't, then yes, for however long the giant is directly between the moon and the sun, there will be eclipse. How long that is depends on how much of the sky the giant takes up.
12:42.31Wormy_[13:40] <Wormy_> The crust on Mars is more stationary, likely due to its thickness, so it allows magma to build up under the volcano for much longer.
12:46.34Wormy_Impy is gone, but I'm concerned about the habitability of Earth-like planets within a gas giant's van allen belts
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12:47.09GhelaeIf it is tidally locked, then what happens depends on where you are on the moon. The far side will have fairly long days and nights - a few Earth days, probably. Ganymede's orbital period is a little over a week, for example.
12:47.28GhelaeThe near side will be in the night when the moon is between the sun and the giant, and in eclipse when the giant is between the sun and the moon. Only in the intermediate parts will it see daylight.
12:47.53GhelaeHowever, Alpha Centauri being a double system, some of the nights and eclipses will be lessened somewhat by the presence of whichever star the giant doesn't orbit.
12:48.25ImpyDroidSo a nightmarishly whacked day-night cycleb
12:48.28ImpyDroidI can relate
12:49.02GhelaeWormy_: Just found this https://arxiv.org/abs/1309.0811
12:49.14Wormy_In Space Engine I've seen moons orbit gas giants in binary and trinary systems, you do get weird shadows on the moons
12:50.37Wormy_Thanks
12:51.50MonetThere's one planet I found in the Aldra binary system that thanks to its location between Aldra's two stars and the different orbital planes the two stars have, 3/4 of the planet is illuminated.
12:53.59Wormy_I'm going to upload the screenshot of a moon or planet I found that had a night cycle in a trinary system covering less than a third of the body
12:54.37Wormy_Space Engine has an amazing capacity for surprises like this
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12:55.00MonetImpyDroid: I think you need a new IRC client.
12:55.10Ghelae"Mars-sized exomoons of Neptune-sized exoplanets in the stellar [habitable zone] of K stars will hardly be affected by planetary magnetospheres if these moons are habitable from an illumination and tidal heating point of view. While the magnetic standoff distance expands for higher-mass planets, ultimately Jovian hosts can enshroud their massive moons beyond the [habitable edge], depending on orbital eccentricity."
12:56.02ImpyDroidMonet: Might as well
12:56.22Ghelae"Uncertainties in the parameterization of tidal heating cause uncertainties in the extent of both the [runaway greenhouse effects] and Io [habitable edge]s. Once a potentially habitable exomoon would be discovered, detailed interior models for the satellite’s behavior under tidal stresses would need to be explored."
12:57.00ImpyDroidGhelae: So tidal locking in a large satellite like Sanctuarium is not very likely or am I not understanding a thing or something
12:59.48Wormy_Ghelae, Monet, ImpyDroid:  Same object, different part of its orbit http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/29/Scr00123.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160713125841  http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/ba/Scr00116.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160713125800
13:00.26MonetCool
13:00.54Wormy_Oh wait no, those are different objects, but from the same system
13:08.23Wormy_10 Real Life Cyborgs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGca2IISfgE
13:08.35GhelaeWhile Imp's not here, let's figure out eclipses given an orbital distance of 20 times the gas giant radius.
13:09.24GhelaeFor a Jupiter-sized planet at 1 AU, the star is
13:09.34Ghelae~150000000/(20*70000)
13:09.34infobot107.142857142857
13:09.39Ghelaetimes further away
13:10.38GhelaeAnd has about 10 times the radius. So there would still be major eclipses: the planet would be about 10 times the diameter of the sun in the sky.
13:12.30GhelaeFor a Neptune-sized planet, it'll be about 1/3 that size in the sky. So there'd be daily eclipses.
13:16.24GhelaeAround Jupiter, the total orbital period would be 10.7 days.
13:17.46GhelaeI don't feel like trying to figure out how long the eclipse would last... but I expect it would be fairly short, especially if the moon isn't tidally-locked. And at that distance, I don't think it would be.
13:18.15Wormy_Yeah
13:19.26GhelaeThere is an equation for tidal locking, but the number of freely-chooseable parameters in it means we can just decide that they'll be sufficient in Sanctuarium's case to avoid locking.
13:28.54dromRemind me to not draw on A4-sized canvases again
13:28.57dromhttp://i.imgur.com/g1h21o6.png
13:31.10Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/zlpZX
13:34.41Monetdrom: Doesn't look too bad
13:35.25dromToo bad there is no thumbnail brush on krita, at least what I could find
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13:42.21dino82_hi
13:42.28OluapPlayerHey dino
13:45.17Wormy_Ghelae, Monet:  This is unexpected https://youtu.be/IwCAPtp3_cU?t=56s
13:47.02dino82_howz all doing!
13:47.47GhelaeHello.
13:48.03GhelaeWormy_: When I read the title, I was expecting a different kind of acid.
13:48.41Wormy_lol
13:50.18dromMonet: The problem is I never get the feeling of satisfaction
13:51.11MonetThe size of the paper can be intimidating
13:54.31dromcanvas, if you pleae
13:55.27MonetWas it actual canvas?
13:59.32dromOn Krita, the surface you draw on is called a canvas
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14:01.54AdmiralPandahi all
14:02.26TreebeardHello
14:02.27MonetHello
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14:04.06OluapPlayer~slap Cyrannian|Busy
14:04.07infobotACTION slaps Cyrannian|Busy, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
14:04.53Cyrannian|Busy~tickle OluapPlayer
14:04.53infobotACTION jumps on OluapPlayer, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!"
14:05.25TreebeardHello
14:06.51Cyrannian|BusyHi
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14:28.07DrodoEmpireHi everyone
14:30.57MonetHi
14:31.35dino82_hi
14:34.17TreebeardHello
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15:02.30Wormy_So true https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOn_FTJCYAAKEHx.jpg:large
15:03.29MonetAye
15:05.35DrodoEmpireAll the damn time >.<
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15:16.00dino82_new quadrantia species: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Tajakeon
15:27.50DrodoEmpireInteresting
15:30.45Wormy_Excellently modelled
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15:40.37Wormy_https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13707721_10153908445599247_492784161842477515_n.jpg?oh=48a1928362e764060b1c5d52aad91475&oe=582F6519
15:43.03dino82_thanks :D
15:46.26Wormy_Hachiman, DrodEmpire:  http://imgur.com/gallery/fMOAy#
15:46.28Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/fMOAy
15:47.21Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/lg5pX
16:05.07Cyrannian|AwayGot the bus early with half an hour to spare and there's nothing to do
16:05.56Cyrannian|AwayApart from aimlessly walking about
16:13.10Cyrannian|AwayOh god standing next to a drug dealer, moving on
16:13.35NeonPandashoulda bought some, missed opportunity
16:14.07Cyrannian|AwayI'd like not to be stabbed thanks
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16:20.27Cyrannian|AwayHi
16:20.46OluapPlayerHi
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16:35.42MonetHello
16:35.47DrodoEmpireHi
16:38.40GhelaeHello.
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16:49.33Quark8Hello.
16:50.19TheDinoHunterHi
16:57.51DrodoEmpiretedst
16:57.53DrodoEmpire*test
16:58.15TheDinoHunterYour tedst was sucessful
17:15.53dino82_hi
17:24.56Wormy_Monet: Kicked Farage 16.4 miles http://games.usvsth3m.com/kick-ukip-out-of-kent/
17:26.31Wormy_27.78 miles O_o
17:26.38Wormy_into the sea
17:28.29Quark8Kicked him 27.78 miles as well. I wonder if he can still swim in the Channel with those kick wounds.
17:30.46Wormy_I'm sure someone can throw him an EU-made and certified lifebuoy
17:31.45Quark8Will do.
17:36.25Monet21.26 miles is my best so far
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17:36.40OluapPlayerspa
17:36.42Wormy_Xho:   http://games.usvsth3m.com/kick-ukip-out-of-kent/
17:36.56Xhou
17:37.40Xhojesus
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17:38.31The_RandomnessHello
17:38.37Quark8The_Randomness: http://games.usvsth3m.com/kick-ukip-out-of-kent/
17:38.40Quark8And hello.
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17:39.08MonetMy highscore is 27.78
17:39.12Wormy_Me and Quark got 27.78 miles, Monet not far behind
17:39.23Wormy_I think that must be the maximum
17:39.31The_RandomnessI might check it out later, currently on a computer on campus
17:39.46Hachiman27.78 is mine
17:40.36Wormy_Funny if you could kick him to France
17:42.00Monet<PROTECTED>
17:42.51Wormy_lol
17:42.57MonetEvery classmate I know celebrated when he lost. It was hilarious that Al Murray was also campaigning for the seat as a joke.
17:43.04The_Randomnesslol
17:44.14HachimanI think I recall Al Murray actually beat the number of votes Farage got, even if he didn't get the seat
17:44.39Wormy_They have more http://games.usvsth3m.com/whac-a-gif/bash-george-osborne/
17:45.28Quark8bbl
17:46.03Wormy_http://games.usvsth3m.com/slap-michael-gove/
17:48.17Wormy_The Ed Millibad slash fiction generator http://games.usvsth3m.com/slashmiliband/
17:48.27Wormy_"Ed Miliband arched his back and exploded with lust at the sight of Phil Collins's huge pulsating sausage"
17:48.30XhoOh god
17:48.36XhoMine was worse
17:48.42XhoReplace Phil Collins with Gordon Brown
17:49.55MonetWell I'm not sleeping tonight
17:50.44Hachiman"As Ed Miliband explored further with his tongue, he thought that Jeremy Paxman's crevices tasted faintly (but pleasingly!) of coriander."
17:50.47HachimanHoly shit
17:52.03Wormy_:toofar:
17:52.17MonetI still remember that time Ed mentally broke down on a question time debate with Jeremy Paxman
17:56.39Wormy_"As Ed Miliband slowly but determinedly slid his hand inside the waistband of David Miliband's trousers, David Miliband felt an electric tingle run down his spine, and his cock twitched in eager anticipation."
17:56.45Wormy_Brotherly love
17:56.49The_Randomnessoh dear
17:58.12HachimanOh God
17:58.16Wormy_I remember the "Luis Saurez" biting game
18:00.04XhoOluapPlayer Hachiman: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Vanguard y u niggas no quote dis
18:00.21OluapPlayerI've nothing to say right now
18:00.23Hachimani gav u a top quote u frijoles negro
18:01.42Xhoy'all basic bitches
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18:02.36DrodoEmpireHi
18:03.14OluapPlayerWeird
18:03.31Xhogg
18:03.37DrodoEmpireIndeed
18:17.43TreebeardXho: Is Vanguard able to act independently of Kaicaiusarin's will?
18:19.20XhoYes
18:19.32XhoVanguard's probably the only Void Denizen with a complex personality
18:21.54OluapPlayerVanguard - everyone else is like "dur"
18:22.24Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZof_XMQFFg
18:25.55XhoNot particularly sure why Vanguard has a complex personality, probably due to the fact he learns through people's nightmares
18:26.43Cyrannian|AwayGod I hate the people I work with
18:27.21MonetHow come?
18:27.53dino82_Ow?
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18:29.21Wormy_What happened?
18:30.43Cyrannian|AwayIt's very irrational, they're nice but bleh at the same time. They do nothing but smoke endlessly and talk about when they're going to go out next
18:31.08The_RandomnessV/\
18:36.35MonetE-cigs or regulars?
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18:37.19dino82_good luck Cyrannian!
18:37.26ImpyDroidALRIGHT let us hope this IRC client won't crash every minute
18:37.27ImpyDroidHiya
18:37.40Monethi
18:37.46TreebeardHello
18:38.03OluapPlayerhi
18:39.48Wormy_Tophated waptor forced to work with common peasants
18:40.47ImpyDroidWormy_: Hm. If Sanctuarium has a solid iron core and tectonic processes on it have been over for like ages
18:40.58ImpyDroidWould it mean it would be mostly flat?
18:41.45MonetFar from it.
18:42.18Wormy_I suppose if mountain building had ceased and those mountains had been worn away, then its possible it will have flatter terrain
18:43.06ImpyDroidYou said something about volcanic eruptions
18:43.21Wormy_However, it could still have massive volcanoes, though if we take Mars as an example, they don't tend to have steep greadients due to the slow buildup and thick crust
18:43.49Wormy_[13:40] <Wormy_> The crust on Mars is more stationary, likely due to its thickness, so it allows magma to build up under the volcano for much longer.
18:43.56ImpyDroidSo most new big mountains would be volcanoes
18:44.21MonetMountains often form on destructive plate boundaries
18:44.32Wormy_If Sanctuarium is much smaller than Earth, it may never have had plate tectonics as complex as Earth's anyway
18:44.39Monetareas where two tectonic plates collide
18:45.25ImpyDroidYeah but if tectonic activities on the moon stopped the plates probably wouldn't collide too often
18:47.30Wormy_I think there's evidence Mars only had two tectonic plates at best, and probably didn't last very long  http://www.spaceanswers.com/solar-system/does-mars-have-tectonic-plates/
18:49.59Wormy_I think its likely Sanctaurium has flat terrain if it is tectonically dead, even the volcanoes wouldn't be steep though they could be very big indeed
18:50.17Wormy_But that also means it atmosphere could well be reducing
18:50.54Wormy_Radeon might be using some advanced geoengineering
18:51.03Wormy_bbl dinner#
18:53.08Wormy_If I remember my lesson correctly
18:54.00Wormy_Magma tends to liquify nearer the surface as the lithostatic pressure drops, so our volcanoes also blow their tops eventually
18:54.26Wormy_But on Mars, its high enough to slow down the upwelling of magma before it melts
18:54.35MonetTectonic activity could be influenced by the gas giant
18:54.41Wormy_so volcano building is much more gradual
18:54.58MonetWell, tectonic activity and volcanism
19:06.16ImpyDroidHm. At first I wanted Sanctuarium to have spires that extend upwards
19:06.22ImpyDroidBut I wonder now
19:06.56ImpyDroidWhat instead of extending upwards the city world extended *downwards*?
19:06.57ImpyDroidThe elites would live deep underground
19:07.55Wormy_Monet, ImpyDroid:  If Sanctuarium is in an orbital resonance with other moons and the gas giant, then yes its possible
19:08.55Wormy_Depends on the proximity too I guess, its either close (Jupiter mass giant); or further out (Neptune-mass), depending on what arrangement Impy wants (habitability in the van allen belts)
19:08.58Wormy_bbl again
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19:11.15WormydroidActually this is interestibg enough to stay on phone
19:12.18ImpyDroidShit now I imagine Sanctuarium as some sort of sci fi Skavenblight
19:12.38MonetOnly less creepy and stinky
19:12.44ImpyDroidYeah
19:13.40ImpyDroidMaybe the increasing radiation is why the moon turned into a selenopolis?
19:13.40ImpyDroidEveryone escaped underground
19:16.11TreebeardWormy_ (and others): With the technology of a tier 3 empire, can landing vectors be calculated so that a ship can make its approach without any form of sensors or communication?
19:18.10Treebeard*Wormydroid
19:18.18MonetLanding on the moon was managed with cameras and maths and probes sent to Mars land largely based on what we know of Mars' atmosphere so..yes, easily.
19:18.47WormydroidYes, though they will have to rely on predictions, using computers
19:19.31MonetOr if we're talking landing like aircraft, if by 'no sensors' you mean no altimeters, then yes but it'll be dangerous.
19:19.45TreebeardOkay, thanks
19:20.14WormydroidNASA used computers weaker than chips used in microwaves
19:21.27MonetA single smartphone has more computing power than all of Houston space centre in 1969.
19:22.13The_RandomnessThat reminds me about how they apparently released the source code for the Apollo 11 mission on github recently
19:22.23The_RandomnessAnd how there's all sorts of funny things in the comments
19:22.25WormydroidOh wow
19:22.41The_RandomnessLike, the header for one section was "trashy little subroutines"
19:23.14NeonPandathat's a coder thing anyway though, I mean sure not at some levels
19:24.02The_Randomnessbrb
19:24.08WormydroidThe coder subculture goes way back, at least
19:24.16Monet47 years of computing knowledge and coding is as stubborn and a pain in the ass as ever.
19:25.07WormydroidNot the computers fault that human thinking and kabguage is fluffy and vacous
19:26.15WormydroidOne day we may have computers that can understand us clearly, and then they will have the same problem automating commands
19:28.32MonetIf we can code a computer to not go "wat. Error. what does this mean?" when we mistype one character out of thousands. Programmers everywhere wil lrejoyce.
19:32.05WormydroidThere's a massive gulf between algorithmic process and human understanding, I think there is somethibg fundamental about that.  Thats not to say the two aren't unrelated
19:32.20WormydroidAre
19:32.32The_Randomnessyeah, what wormy said
19:33.11XhoMonet Hachiman Treebeard DrodoEmpire Cyrannian|Away Wormydroid: I'm on the Voidwalker Titanpad again so if anyone wants to do anything
19:33.31Xhodino82_: ^
19:33.32WormydroidI'll be on it 🔜
19:33.34MonetLink?
19:33.40Xhohttps://titanpad.com/uTzUtz9xLX
19:33.40DrodoEmpireOh, christ.
19:33.56DrodoEmpireAlright, I'll be there, then
20:02.54Cyrannian|AwayBack, that was not a fun day
20:06.12HachimanImpyDroid: Been revising Dragostea's page
20:06.23HachimanAlso new Doctrina section is in the works
20:06.46MonetSo that's why you were quiet when Xho called peopel for Voidwalker
20:07.10HachimanThat and I was busy eating dinner
20:07.27Xho>how long does it take to eat carrots you slow bastard
20:07.46Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ADoctrina_Venefica#3.2F11.2F34:_Our_Room_Ruined Sequel to this section, where Clotho's room gets panty raided
20:08.04XhoDormitory CVI
20:08.08Xhobig place
20:10.54dino82_Xho!
20:11.38dino82_am on the titanpad as well
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20:15.33ImpyDroidHachiman: More slut for the slut god
20:16.44XhoLonginus - in my day           we repaid mischief with throwing people into the sun
20:17.06OluapPlayerAlhazred - and ur people died          chek ur attitude mr
20:17.23XhoLonginus - >my people died          UR A FUKIN BOOK M8
20:18.47OluapPlayerIf we're showing what we're doing
20:18.59OluapPlayerhttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/80/Behesanguis.png/revision/latest?cb=20160713000923 I updated God-of-squish
20:19.09Xho"Gods above... I came here to learn magic, not to get assassinated."                                Pelagrios - don't save the world den
20:19.22Hachimandem eyes
20:19.23XhoOluapPlayer: Looks like he's about to go on a bitch-rant
20:19.27Hachimanhur
20:19.30HachimanGood model though
20:19.53OluapPlayerBehesanguis - these damn colossi and void denizens denying zran kar and shit
20:20.22XhoSanguapraegrandis - DO YOU HAVE A MOMENT TO TALK ABOUT OUR LORD AND DESTROYER CALIGADURO PROVECTUS
20:20.25OluapPlayerhttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/80/Southern_Merrow.png/revision/latest?cb=20160711132745 and fishtits
20:20.32Xhotits indeed
20:26.39HachimanXho: So Zayne Malik has apparently left One Direction because, as he puts it, "an alien spoke to [me] in a dream"
20:26.52Xho"you fucking suck lol" - Santorakh
20:26.55OluapPlayerayy lmao
20:34.45dino82_bye bye
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20:35.56Xho~kick Monet
20:35.56infobotACTION kicks Monet
20:36.06MonetI'm here.
20:40.07ImpyDroidOluapPlayer: >Southern Merrow
20:40.16ImpyDroidI expected it to be Tibias in a swimsuit
20:40.36OluapPlayerSkeleton in a swimsuit
20:40.37OluapPlayerhot
20:41.08XhoTibias - you know it, fruitcake
20:44.56OluapPlayerNorrigan - truer evil is impossible
20:45.20Xho#bodygoals
20:49.00Xhohttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnQ_j3WXYAAeuBH.jpg
21:00.22Wormy_So in my hypnosis session today, I convinced myself I was paralysed.  It was relaxing at first, but then I began to itch, and I panicked when I couldn't move my arms.  I could barely even speak in trance.  I was brought out quickly, and my hands were ice cold.  Must have really dropped my blood pressure.
21:01.28Wormy_Its weird because when I've had sleep paralysis, I've learned to relax in it
21:09.31Wormy_Jesus my hands still feel cold
21:13.34Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13709817_1086277568115650_6652396617730810063_n.jpg?oh=9f0a8c5a74988d4ddda2c5a2e22d1303&oe=582D1BFF
21:13.52DrodoEmpireohgod
21:15.21Monet<PROTECTED>
21:17.48NeonPandaplease, Dark Souls Go
21:19.03MonetDark Souls Nope.
21:19.13DrodoEmpireDark Souls Stop
21:19.25Monet"A wild Quaelag has appeared"
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21:26.17Spluff5Do any of you guys know how to increase the resolution of the SPORE movie recorder?
21:26.18DrodoEmpireHi
21:26.26DrodoEmpireI wouldn't/
21:32.42Spluff5http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/18/Sanuran_City.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/640?cb=20160713213229
21:32.59Spluff5Prehistoric Sanuran city
21:33.43CyraBotVery impressive
21:34.08DrodoEmpireInteresting that its a single structure
21:34.44DrodoEmpireReminds me somewhat of the... Minoans, I believe.
21:34.50Spluff5To withstand the pressure of the atmosphere and to guard against the electric microstorms and firestorms.
21:36.18DrodoEmpireThey had really really dense cities, to the point where it formed one or several big buildings
21:36.22DrodoEmpireRight
21:36.35DrodoEmpireThey'd require a lot of planning, I imagine
21:37.26Spluff5Yeah
21:38.15OluapPlayerXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jea44AqJBdI oh fuck
21:38.28DrodoEmpireWhich'd need a strong administration and centralized government... aand now I'm going on a tangent about the cycle and needs of civilization >.<
21:38.36MonetXho: Beep titanpad
21:39.25Xhoxasdfgh
21:40.03XhoOluapPlayer: "BECAUSE MY LOVE FOR BEES WOULD BREAK MY FUCK IN TWO"
21:40.45OluapPlayerFuck Bees truly is a pinnacle of humanity
21:50.11MonetSo the Critical of reception of Ghostbusters is...actualyl pretty positive.
21:52.01Spluff5Whaat?
21:52.19Spluff5Are they just scared to be called sexist?
21:52.50MonetWell looking at the reviews...no
21:53.16DrodoEmpireMovie was pretty mediocre I hear
21:53.28DrodoEmpireIt wasn't the cringefest people were expecting or hoping for
21:53.34DrodoEmpireBut it wasn't great either
21:53.54MonetSeveral reviewers who do comment on the whole gender debacle generalyl go "who cares if they have tits, they're funny, decent, and the film is as serious as the original"
21:54.23DrodoEmpireI heard that it wasn't terribly funny actually, but I'd have to see it myself
21:54.48MonetYeah humour is somewhat subjective
21:54.59DrodoEmpireAgain I heard it was mildly entertaining at parts and that's about it
21:55.30MonetIt does fall into generic blockbuster setpeices near the end.
21:56.01MonetAlthough I hear the original did as well - why exactly did we have a phantom Stay Puff man again?
21:56.25MonetSomething giant for the 'busters to kill and look awesome?
21:58.40OluapPlayerXho: http://i.imgur.com/tWxafM9.png
21:58.54MonetBut yes when it comes to the whole feminism argument, critical reception is "why was this such a big deal again?"
22:00.13MonetI was thinking that myself hearing about the whole issue. If the actors are good and if the role isn't gender-specific, what's the issue?
22:01.12Spluff5I think the issue is that they were hiding behinde sexism as a defense for unrelated criticisms of the trailers.
22:01.48XhoOluapPlayer: 23/10/77 neva forget
22:02.25MonetSpluffs: I figure it could be 'the internet finding something controversial to hate'
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23:31.43The_RandomnessHello
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23:56.53Quark8Hello.
23:57.35Charles_BotHey
23:58.20Charles_BotQuark8: I believe you asked me a question about the FE a couple days ago; sorry I haven't been able to get back to you before now
23:59.48Charles_BotFrance has a policy of free trade by default, so French multinationals would be trading with the Siranians unless an embargo was called

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