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| 02:02.01 | The_Randomness | It feels like there's legitimately nothing to do here in Wisconsin |
| 02:08.25 | Monet | goodnight |
| 02:08.31 | The_Randomness | gn |
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| 07:42.52 | Wormy_ | hi |
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| 08:25.23 | Spluff5 | I'm back |
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| 08:50.36 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 08:50.54 | Spluff5 | Did you get my message? |
| 08:51.11 | Treebeard | Yes, and I replied to it. |
| 08:53.08 | Spluff5 | I'm guessing those swirls are wormholes? |
| 08:54.25 | Treebeard | Yes |
| 08:55.01 | Treebeard | Here's another version of that map: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Maps/1766 |
| 08:55.46 | Treebeard | brb (10-20 minutes) |
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| 09:04.56 | Spluff5 | Hi |
| 09:06.06 | Tek0516 | Hello |
| 09:06.34 | Tek0516 | It's 5am here and I'm already out on my way to work. :/ |
| 09:06.38 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 09:06.51 | Spluff5 | Welcome back |
| 09:07.59 | Treebeard | I notice that you settled on this happening 200 years ago? |
| 09:09.14 | Spluff5 | I settled nothing |
| 09:09.42 | Spluff5 | I was actually liking your timing of hundreds of thousands of years ago more. It gives us a blanker slate |
| 09:10.11 | Treebeard | Sorry, I meant 200 thousand years ago |
| 09:11.05 | Spluff5 | Yeah |
| 09:11.10 | Spluff5 | What do you think? |
| 09:13.34 | Treebeard | That's a good date. We might be able to collaborate with the Draconid Imperium, and it is still suitably 'ancient', while allowing for some recognizable nations (probably not just the DI) to be active. |
| 09:16.34 | Spluff5 | Ok, in the arm I have selected there is no established activity as far as I am aware though. Perfect for developing a history before contact with other empires :-) |
| 09:16.45 | Spluff5 | What's your empire about then? |
| 09:18.34 | Treebeard | I'm going to have a go at creating something alien (rather than a variation on humans), but I'm not sure what I'm going to do exactly yet. Currently, I'm considering a hive mind of nanobots that *really* love triangles. |
| 09:18.34 | Spluff5 | Do you have a name and location yet? |
| 09:18.52 | Spluff5 | Cool! |
| 09:19.14 | Treebeard | I don't have a name yet, but I'm going to put them where the Talven Empire is now. |
| 09:19.20 | Spluff5 | I have a hivemind too but it's quite different to that so that should work out fine. |
| 09:19.44 | Spluff5 | I don't think they're on that map. |
| 09:19.56 | Treebeard | Who? |
| 09:20.51 | Spluff5 | The Talven. At least the map you posted on the wall. |
| 09:22.20 | Spluff5 | Crap GTG, later |
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| 09:33.17 | Spluff5 | That was a bump. |
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| 09:35.57 | Spluff5_ | No, this isn't working. I can't see what you're writing. |
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| 09:36.17 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 09:36.19 | Spluff5_ | I'll solve this problem tomorrow. G'dnight. |
| 09:40.02 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 10:01.05 | Wormy_ | https://twitter.com/Year11Bantss/status/752079868653932544 |
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| 10:11.08 | Charles_Flight | Wormy_ Ghelae : Currently flying over London :D |
| 10:15.02 | Wormy_ | cool |
| 10:16.57 | Charles_Flight | When I write the section about France's strategic forces, should I explain what strategic deterrence means? |
| 10:17.00 | Charles_Flight | Or is that fairly obvious? |
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| 10:20.02 | Charles_Flight | Monet: [12:17] <Charles_Flight> When I write the section about France's strategic forces, should I explain what strategic deterrence means? [12:17] <Charles_Flight> Or is that fairly obvious? |
| 10:20.22 | Monet | Might be useful just in case |
| 10:20.33 | Monet | Or a link to wikipedia |
| 10:21.56 | Ghelae | Either link to Wikipedia or leave it unexplained, I think. |
| 10:22.35 | Ghelae | A Wikipedia page would, I assume, simply link to another article rather than explaining it. |
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| 10:52.53 | Treebeard | Can anyone give me advice on creating an alien civilization that actually seems alien? |
| 10:53.54 | Ghelae | What aspects of the civilisation would you first like to focus on? |
| 10:54.35 | Treebeard | Probably their society. |
| 10:54.42 | Ghelae | http://xenology.info/Xeno.htm is a good resource, if you know what area you want to focus on. |
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| 10:54.45 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 10:54.49 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 10:54.58 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 10:55.02 | Treebeard | Ghelae: Thanks |
| 10:55.03 | Ghelae | So that's chapter 20 there. |
| 10:56.48 | Monet | Wormy_: I've seen some bad news regarding the Star Trek TV reboot. |
| 10:57.01 | Monet | Though I'm two months late |
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| 11:03.20 | Charles_Flight | Testing? |
| 11:03.24 | Charles_Flight | Monet |
| 11:03.28 | Charles_Flight | I made it :D |
| 11:06.24 | Monet | Right I'm bummed that I might never see the new Trek series |
| 11:06.54 | Charles_Flight | Why is that? |
| 11:07.05 | Monet | 1) I don't have CBS, 2) Like I'm going to pay for both Netflik *and* CBS (not) All Access. |
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| 11:12.05 | Monet | Then again I'm not too bothered. Call me cynical but as much as I like the new cast, do we have to go back to the 2200s? |
| 11:14.07 | Monet | Actually I'm more mixed. |
| 11:14.30 | Wormy_ | If they elaborate on the Earth-Romulan War I'm happy |
| 11:14.34 | Monet | It's nice to see an updated TOS as that series compared to the later ones was pretty corny. |
| 11:14.44 | Wormy_ | However I thought it was based between TOS and TNG? |
| 11:15.29 | Charles_Flight | Does this work as a short definition? |
| 11:15.33 | Charles_Flight | "The primary aim of the Grand Navy's strategic arsenal is [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deterrence_theory deterrence], the maintenance of a set of tools capable of instant and proportional retaliation against an attack on French soil, interests, or allies in the hope of dissuading an adversary from such an attack." |
| 11:16.34 | Monet | Wormy_: http://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/star-trek/254534/possible-star-trek-tv-series-setting-details-surface |
| 11:18.05 | Wormy_ | I think there's a huge gap that needs filling between the two eras |
| 11:18.18 | Wormy_ | So I'm sure they can find something |
| 11:18.34 | Monet | The films and STO are currently living a fair deal off the nostalgic love of TOS. |
| 11:18.42 | Wormy_ | Also, it forces them to work with established canon, rather than reinventing new enemies |
| 11:18.58 | Wormy_ | as opposed to post DS9/Voy series might do |
| 11:19.24 | Wormy_ | And doing the same old same old |
| 11:19.50 | Monet | As long as we get new things I'm fine, though being the massive franchise and broadcaster that Trek and CBS are respectively "play it safe" is looking like a possibility. |
| 11:31.04 | Ghelae | Given that a) Spore "cells" are basically sea creatures and nothing like real microbes, and b) with one exception, all Monera phyla on the wiki have only one class each, I am considering turning Monera into a phylum of Animalia. |
| 11:31.06 | Ghelae | Any objections? |
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| 11:32.35 | Charles_Flight | :( |
| 11:32.38 | Charles_Flight | What did I miss? |
| 11:33.09 | Monet | [12:19:43] <Monet> As long as we get new things I'm fine, though being the massive franchise and broadcaster that Trek and CBS are respectively "play it safe" is looking like a possibility. |
| 11:33.14 | Monet | [12:30:58] <Ghelae> Given that a) Spore "cells" are basically sea creatures and nothing like real microbes, and b) with one exception, all Monera phyla on the wiki have only one class each, I am considering turning Monera into a phylum of Animalia. |
| 11:33.14 | Monet | [12:31:00] <Ghelae> Any objections? |
| 11:33.44 | Charles_Flight | Ahh |
| 11:33.46 | Ghelae | Charles_Flight: To respond to your question: yes, that description of deterrence is fine. |
| 11:40.21 | ImpyDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:51.36 | Monet | http://www.wired.com/2015/12/nasa-star-wars-droids/ |
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| 11:53.23 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:01.09 | ImpyDroid | Well there is an actual BB-8 droid isn't there |
| 12:01.25 | ImpyDroid | As in this rolling thing is an actual gyroscopic robot |
| 12:01.50 | Monet | As a toy or hospital assistant possibly. |
| 12:03.03 | Monet | One of BB-8's possible issues in Nasa's eyes is when going up hills you need a lot of traction. |
| 12:04.27 | Monet | R2-D2 can climb hills and navigate slopes because inside his feet are off-road tyres. |
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| 12:04.47 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 12:04.51 | Monet | Hi |
| 12:04.59 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 12:05.18 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid: What if there were dwarves or Mannazian tribes who fought naked like the Celts |
| 12:05.23 | Monet | You just came on as I was talking about how impractial BB-8's design is. |
| 12:06.38 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Lucretia - see that's why giving freedom to humans was a bad idea |
| 12:06.55 | Monet | If BB-8's body was covered in treads, then I think it could move about. |
| 12:07.50 | Hachiman | I mean, if you are facing a foe whose weapons can easily penetrate and damage your armour as if it were nothing |
| 12:07.55 | Hachiman | Why bother wearing any |
| 12:08.36 | Monet | Well armour's more about resistance than immunity. |
| 12:09.26 | Monet | With no armour at all the weapon could cut deeper and faster. |
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| 12:10.29 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 12:11.17 | Monet | hello |
| 12:15.07 | Liquid_Ink | Hey |
| 12:18.26 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 12:22.16 | Monet | So I guess a short summary is if BB-8 tried exploring say... the Lake District or the valleys of Mars, BB-8 is quite restricted. |
| 12:23.04 | Monet | But I guess its fine as an astromech droid for a one-man fighter. |
| 12:31.15 | ImpyDroid | Well this guy is more like a house servant right |
| 12:31.31 | ImpyDroid | He is like a computer you can move basically |
| 12:33.06 | Monet | I thought he was more a mechanic's assistant |
| 12:33.07 | ImpyDroid | So there's no need for him to be built to traverse rough terrain |
| 12:33.47 | ImpyDroid | Well my point is he is not a research droid or a machine of war |
| 12:33.59 | Monet | I get you. |
| 12:34.01 | ImpyDroid | He should mostly move indoors or at least on roads |
| 12:34.18 | Monet | His design is fine for his area of work. |
| 12:34.53 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman Monet: Seen the new DoW3 footage? |
| 12:34.59 | Monet | Jakku was alien territory for him. |
| 12:35.28 | ImpyDroid | I see many people complain that the artstyle is not grimdark/realistic enough |
| 12:36.45 | Monet | I haven't been keeping track but Much of the hate I'm hearing is Gabriel Angelos is waaaayy too agile in his Terminator armour |
| 12:36.53 | ImpyDroid | but I do not understand why fucking *Warhammer* should be realistic |
| 12:37.06 | ImpyDroid | Oh yeah Gabriel *jumps* in his Terminator armour |
| 12:37.07 | Monet | Like terminators should not be jumping ten metres into the air. |
| 12:37.09 | ImpyDroid | >jumping |
| 12:37.12 | ImpyDroid | >Terminators |
| 12:37.37 | ImpyDroid | https://youtu.be/ZAy0N-lFGFc there |
| 12:38.00 | Monet | I watched E3 |
| 12:38.28 | Monet | I just thought |
| 12:38.34 | ImpyDroid | I definitely agree that Angelos sounds terrible though |
| 12:39.05 | Monet | I mean come on |
| 12:39.11 | ImpyDroid | He is like too aggressive |
| 12:39.17 | ImpyDroid | Not reserved enough |
| 12:39.29 | Monet | He jumps in the air, air-twirls his hammer and then slams it into the ground |
| 12:39.35 | Monet | Is he a Power Ranger now? |
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| 12:41.53 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 12:41.54 | Monet | The saturation complaint Is where I'm unsure |
| 12:41.57 | Monet | Hi |
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| 12:42.13 | Xho | meow |
| 12:42.25 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 12:42.46 | Hachiman | I do not know where I stand on DoW III |
| 12:43.20 | Monet | You have an ice planet where Blood Ravens and Biel-Tan Eldar are fighting, Such a fight *would* like an exploding paint factory. |
| 12:43.35 | Monet | look like* |
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| 12:44.01 | Xho | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/69/Vanguard2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20160709230538 I did a spooky |
| 12:45.08 | Monet | ImpyDroid: [13:43:13] <Monet> You have an ice planet where Blood Ravens and Biel-Tan Eldar are fighting, Such a fight *would* look like an exploding paint factory. |
| 12:45.41 | Hachiman | Xho: Good job |
| 12:46.49 | Monet | However I do not like Gabriel's portrait |
| 12:47.20 | Hachiman | I do agree that Gabriel jumping with Terminator armour and pulling off anime tricks is a bit silly |
| 12:47.23 | Monet | His scowl looks maybe a little *too* broad compared to previous games. |
| 12:47.29 | Hachiman | But then, artistic license I suppose |
| 12:47.55 | Xho | I feel like doing absolutely and utterly nothing at the moment |
| 12:49.32 | Monet | The Eldar bubble-cover I get |
| 12:49.51 | Monet | Eldar as an army are are highly mobile. |
| 12:50.16 | Treebeard | Xho: Is that why many of your fictions want to turn their environments into absolutely and utterly nothing? |
| 12:50.28 | OluapPlayer | spu |
| 12:50.38 | Monet | Being able to quickly deploy a form of cover is part of their thing. |
| 12:52.18 | Hachiman | There are sillier things Eldar do / have done |
| 12:52.59 | Monet | Oh yeah, definitely. |
| 12:53.13 | Monet | Though they also had the ability to create cover in DOW II |
| 12:53.34 | Xho | More or less yeah |
| 12:53.37 | Xho | OluapPlayer: u |
| 12:53.46 | Xho | Well holidays are meant to recharge one's batteries |
| 12:53.56 | Xho | In turn I'm actually more stressed out than I was before I went |
| 12:54.54 | Monet | Sometimes what can happen is the stress you repressed bubbles up when you start relaxing. |
| 12:57.06 | Hachiman | What the Fantasyverse really needs is more half-swording |
| 12:57.49 | Hachiman | That is, holding the sword by the blade and using the hilt and handle as a bludgeoning weapon, not characters who are half-swords |
| 12:58.19 | Xho | "best tactic" - Pelagrios |
| 12:59.13 | Hachiman | It's a surprisingly effective tactic against enemies wearing heavy armour |
| 12:59.58 | Xho | I don't know whether you're being serious or not |
| 13:00.23 | OluapPlayer | He is, halfswording is a real thing |
| 13:00.38 | Monet | I'm sure AdmiralPanda will be happy to teach fantasyverse people a few HEMA techniques. |
| 13:00.41 | Xho | wut is dis |
| 13:01.04 | Monet | Historical European Martial Arts. |
| 13:01.06 | OluapPlayer | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-sword lern 2 google |
| 13:06.13 | Monet | ImpyDroid: I really don't get the outcry of the Imperial Knight pilot. Then again I don't really know much about the Imperial Knights other than despite their sie they're not classified as titans. |
| 13:06.20 | Xho | well |
| 13:06.21 | Monet | size* |
| 13:08.21 | Monet | So I'm totally clueless at how an IK pilot being a woman is bad or feminism-pandering. |
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| 13:14.05 | ImpyDroid | Monet: The Knights are piloted by feudal aristocrats basically |
| 13:14.49 | ImpyDroid | A woman with a noble title that entitles her to pilot a mecha is completely plausible |
| 13:15.14 | ImpyDroid | People are just being misogynistic |
| 13:15.26 | Monet | So its mostly people going "there's a woman pilot for some reason. Fkin SJWs!" |
| 13:15.41 | ImpyDroid | Apparently we cannot make a female character in any position of power or important because FEMINISM PANDERING BAWWWWWW |
| 13:16.05 | ImpyDroid | I guess we have to dress every woman in a burka and forbid them to go out without a man |
| 13:16.17 | ImpyDroid | Then these guys complaining about feminism will be satisfied |
| 13:16.50 | ImpyDroid | Again these Knights are not even ordinary IG military or Astartes |
| 13:17.08 | Hachiman | But there are unisex Imperial regiments |
| 13:17.10 | Monet | So basically "It's the Internet, there will always be screeching maniacs who don't like it" |
| 13:17.51 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Yeah if it was an IG pilot it'd be weird because IG regiments are almost always of one gender |
| 13:17.58 | ImpyDroid | But these are Knights |
| 13:18.56 | ImpyDroid | They are nobles, and a noblewoman who manipulated herself in a position of mecha-riding power, was born to one being the eldest heir (especially if no boys were born), or just was really good at piloting a mecha is perfectly plausible |
| 13:19.39 | Hachiman | I mean, there's always been at least one woman in the recent Warhammer 40k games |
| 13:20.25 | ImpyDroid | Yeah that |
| 13:20.43 | ImpyDroid | Makes perfect sense I say |
| 13:21.32 | Hachiman | Second Lieutenant Mira, Inquisitor Adrastia, the Eldar Farseers and various other Eldar units |
| 13:21.56 | Hachiman | There are even female techpriests in the lore |
| 13:22.10 | Hachiman | Because techpriests give no fucks for sex and gender roles |
| 13:22.55 | Monet | That was one of the things I considered |
| 13:23.32 | ImpyDroid | You know I once imagined a fantasy script for a Warhammer 40k movie about the Emperor's rise to power |
| 13:23.37 | Monet | If IKs are piloted by members of the the Mechanicus then a pilot having chest-bumps is irrelevant. |
| 13:23.50 | ImpyDroid | Imagine a Techpriestess as a female lead |
| 13:24.05 | Hachiman | I didn't think techpriests were known about during the Emperor's ascension |
| 13:24.09 | Hachiman | Since he was stuck on Earth |
| 13:24.55 | Hachiman | Also, if Tau are ever in a DoW game again, Shadowsun should be mentioned |
| 13:25.29 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: It is a pretty short trip from Mars to Earth |
| 13:25.43 | Hachiman | Yeah but there was no interplanetary travel prior to the Emperor's rise |
| 13:25.53 | Hachiman | He only found out about the Mechanicus after he unified Terra |
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| 13:28.43 | Charles_Flight | There! Finished the section on French airpower: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Empire#Strategic_forces Let me know what you guys think! Monet Treebeard ImpyDroid Tek0516 Wormy_away |
| 13:32.13 | Charles_Flight | test? |
| 13:36.24 | Treebeard | The Talven Empire needs to develop its planetary shielding to survive this, but I'd imagine that it is already quite advanced. |
| 13:37.08 | Monet | I like the explanation of France's progress. |
| 13:37.37 | Monet | Treebeard: Anti-air or anti-orbit batteries might be a worthwhile as well |
| 13:37.45 | Monet | a worthwhile investment* |
| 13:37.52 | Treebeard | Indeed |
| 13:39.04 | Charles_Flight | I imagine planetary shielding is very expensive and I generally reserve it for singular fortress worlds, though developing anti-air and an airforce of your own would indeed be a good idea |
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| 13:39.12 | Treebeard | Would they be more effective on the surface of Talven worlds, or in orbit? |
| 13:39.20 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
| 13:39.27 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 13:39.33 | Charles_Flight | Anti-air or planetary shielding? |
| 13:39.38 | Charles_Flight | Hey Panda |
| 13:39.43 | Treebeard | Anti-air |
| 13:39.44 | Charles_Flight | Discussing this I just finished: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Empire#Strategic_forces |
| 13:40.59 | Monet | Recent innovations in the real world are more favoured towards pinpoint counters rather than some blanket barrier |
| 13:41.50 | Charles_Flight | Well one major quandry of anti-air is that you can't plaster your entire territory (in this case all of your planets) with anti-air coverage. If you want to invest in good, long-range anti-air systems (especially those which can reach into hyperspace, which would be the best defense against hyperspatial bombers), you're going to need to be strategi |
| 13:41.50 | Charles_Flight | c as to where you deploy them, and which assets you absolutely want protected |
| 13:42.05 | Monet | The best counter in the modern world to an oncoming ICBM is...a missile to blow the sucker out of the sky. |
| 13:42.21 | Charles_Flight | Eh... |
| 13:42.35 | Monet | OKay maybe not best |
| 13:42.36 | Charles_Flight | The best counter to an ICBM is having an ICBM of your own |
| 13:42.46 | Charles_Flight | So that nobody actually wants to fire |
| 13:43.06 | Monet | I was talking about when an ICBM is actualyl coming. |
| 13:43.23 | Treebeard | Should I assume that France will not bombard undefended worlds? |
| 13:43.27 | Charles_Flight | Alternatively, investing in hyperspatial interceptors/fighters might be more flexible and have more coverage, but might be more vulnerable to reversals |
| 13:43.40 | Xho | Hachiman ImpyDroid: Gimme top quote for Vanguard |
| 13:45.22 | Charles_Flight | It depends on what's on the world and to what level the conflict has escalated. If we're talking about a limited war, military and logistical targets are going to be on the list with avoidance of civilian infrastructure. If this is total war, factories, industry, even (if this has escalated to the equivalent of nuclear war) entire cities could be w |
| 13:45.22 | Charles_Flight | iped out in retalliation |
| 13:46.50 | Hachiman | rite gimme a moment |
| 13:47.14 | Charles_Flight | Treebeard: But if the planet has no military value and nothing defending it, France isn't likely to bomb it, if that's what you mean |
| 13:47.34 | OluapPlayer | spokky -Pelagrios |
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| 13:48.54 | Groxkiller98 | Hey. |
| 13:49.12 | Charles_Flight | Monet : Then yeah, an anti-air missile might shoot it down, but it's really, really unlikely |
| 13:49.42 | Groxkiller98 | I found a 3D Printer I want to buy. I was going to try get models of my Spore creatures. |
| 13:49.56 | Groxkiller98 | What's going on? |
| 13:49.59 | Xho | mucho dinero |
| 13:50.13 | Charles_Flight | Given the number of missiles which are likely to be fired in a nuclear attack, the ability of SAM's to impact the outcome is not very high |
| 13:50.20 | Treebeard | Charles_Flight: Alright. How can I make the Talven Empire more suited to a mobile defense (i.e. quickly abandoning and taking back worlds while hiding and constantly relocating their military forces to the optimum postion(s)?) |
| 13:50.54 | Charles_Flight | Groxkiller98 : Discussing this section about French airpowerwhich I just finished http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Empire#Strategic_forces |
| 13:50.54 | Groxkiller98 | Do what the thingies in Mass Effect did. |
| 13:51.00 | Groxkiller98 | Have a migrant fleet. |
| 13:51.28 | Groxkiller98 | If you have a military constantly moving, it's harder to locate it. |
| 13:51.52 | Monet | The Quarians? |
| 13:51.57 | Groxkiller98 | That's it. |
| 13:52.05 | Monet | The Quarians were also a civilisation of scavengers |
| 13:52.06 | Groxkiller98 | I can never remember their name... |
| 13:52.09 | Charles_Flight | Hm, that's usually an asymmetric tactic employed by weaker forces to combat stronger ones, so you're essentially talking about a guerrilla war or an insurgent war |
| 13:52.24 | Groxkiller98 | It would work. |
| 13:52.39 | Groxkiller98 | Cheap and unfair tactics sadly work wonders. |
| 13:52.49 | Groxkiller98 | Planet Buster, anyone? |
| 13:53.05 | AdmiralPanda | well, the Quarians didn't exactly do it by choice, they got kicked off their homeworld |
| 13:53.12 | Groxkiller98 | Their fault. |
| 13:53.23 | Hachiman | Quarians are also sickly, racist assholes |
| 13:53.30 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 13:53.42 | Groxkiller98 | Except Talisker! |
| 13:53.46 | Groxkiller98 | Tali* |
| 13:53.58 | Groxkiller98 | Fucking auto-correct. |
| 13:54.16 | Monet | However what might be a better case is the Systems Alliance strategy of having a token garrison on frontier worlds. When a hostile alien force attacks, the local garrison will scatter while the SA sends in a retaliation armada before the invaders fully settle in. |
| 13:54.20 | Groxkiller98 | Tali is cool, though. |
| 13:54.30 | Charles_Flight | Treebeard: Though it doesn't quite work along the regular rules of war. In that case, you've essentially already lost the conventional war and are trying to regain your territory by hiding your forces among a population and using local architecture, culture, and economics to your advantage |
| 13:55.14 | Groxkiller98 | The Mithadorn did that during the Mithadorn-Xilic-Dreacorran War. |
| 13:55.30 | Charles_Flight | The idea is to wear out the attacking force so much through attrition that either the war becomes too costly, the territory becomes ungovernable, or the conflict becomes politically untenable |
| 13:55.32 | Groxkiller98 | Only they evacuated every single person on the planet. |
| 13:55.35 | Charles_Flight | Or a combination of the three |
| 13:55.55 | AdmiralPanda | just pointing out that the Quarians living on spaceships isn't the best model for a mobile military |
| 13:56.01 | Groxkiller98 | Minimise your losses and maximise enemy loses. |
| 13:56.02 | Charles_Flight | ^ |
| 13:56.04 | Groxkiller98 | That is wore. |
| 13:56.19 | Groxkiller98 | War* |
| 13:56.24 | Groxkiller98 | Fuck my phone... |
| 13:56.49 | Monet | While they are constantly on the move, they're all moving together. |
| 13:57.10 | Treebeard | How could the Talven Empire adapt itself to Monet's suggestion for defense? |
| 13:57.52 | Groxkiller98 | Have mass evacuations. Then when your enemy begins to settle, ambush them. |
| 13:58.11 | Groxkiller98 | Catch them off guard. |
| 13:58.15 | Monet | The SA doesn't evacuate the civilian population in this tactic |
| 13:58.15 | Charles_Flight | Repost Monet's comment? |
| 13:58.22 | Charles_Flight | The one you're referring to? |
| 13:58.26 | Treebeard | <Monet> However what might be a better case is the Systems Alliance strategy of having a token garrison on frontier worlds. When a hostile alien force attacks, the local garrison will scatter while the SA sends in a retaliation armada before the invaders fully settle in. |
| 13:58.55 | Treebeard | Groxkiller: That would be very expensive. |
| 13:58.58 | Groxkiller98 | The Mithadorn used that against the Draekar Remnant, only they also evacuated civilians because they feared the planet would be glassed. |
| 13:59.47 | Monet | The Systems Alliance relies on providing small garrisons that can receive reinforcements within hours or days of an organised attack. |
| 14:00.36 | Charles_Flight | That doesn't sound like a viable wartime tactic |
| 14:01.00 | Monet | I questioned it myself when I first heard it |
| 14:01.05 | Groxkiller98 | The best defence is crushing all who oppose you. |
| 14:01.18 | Charles_Flight | In peacetime, absolutely; your peacetime force can't be everywhere and can't be deployed to your borders at all times for diplomatic reasons |
| 14:01.45 | Monet | The only real war the Systems ALliance ever had was the First Contact War |
| 14:02.58 | Groxkiller98 | I would point out Cerberus, by they were terrorists, not an enemy at war. |
| 14:02.58 | Monet | And that didn't last long; the Turians spotted humans trying to open a Mass Relay they shouldn't, the Turians launched an attack on the colony of Xianxi, that they won easily, and days later a large ALliance fleet came in pounding the Turian garrison |
| 14:03.21 | Charles_Flight | But when it comes to flexible defense, there are different ways to do it, though it generally implies having a lot of territory to fight over. You can engage the enemy in a fighting retreat over scorched terrain, stretching their supply lines and harassing them while you deny them an engagement. When you finally choose to engage, it will be when th |
| 14:03.21 | Charles_Flight | e balance of forces are tilted towards you or you have no other choice (but at least you have a better shot) |
| 14:03.52 | Monet | The First Contact War didn't go much beyond Xanxi because the Citadel Council stepped in and brokered a peace treaty. |
| 14:04.01 | Groxkiller98 | You can always rely on having the bigger gun. |
| 14:04.07 | Treebeard | Do you have any other suggestions for a mobile fleet? |
| 14:04.36 | Groxkiller98 | Cover them in canons, and have them wander your territory. |
| 14:04.45 | Charles_Flight | Grox >.< |
| 14:04.55 | Groxkiller98 | :P |
| 14:04.59 | Charles_Flight | But in most wars, the control of territory also implies the control of resources, strategically important routes and access points, population, industry, strategic terrain, etc. Unless you're Russia, losing ground is equatable to steadily losing thewar |
| 14:05.32 | Groxkiller98 | That's true everywhere. |
| 14:05.54 | Groxkiller98 | But just having a mobile fleet doesn't mean not having defences where they're important. |
| 14:06.55 | Groxkiller98 | ... |
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| 14:07.13 | Groxkiller98 | WB |
| 14:07.18 | Charles_Flight | Treebeard : That depends on what you mean by a mobile fleet; fleets are always mobile, and they can be used in many, many different ways to aid your army on the defensive |
| 14:07.19 | Charles_Flight | dced |
| 14:07.22 | Charles_Flight | Whoops |
| 14:07.23 | Charles_Flight | Sorry |
| 14:07.51 | Charles_Flight | I'm on a plane in the middle of the Atlantic, there's going to be bugs. xD |
| 14:07.57 | Groxkiller98 | XD |
| 14:08.14 | Groxkiller98 | Don't run into a Grox probe! |
| 14:08.26 | Groxkiller98 | I ran out of ammo. :P |
| 14:08.37 | Hachiman | Xho: "The ruins left behind by the Golden Elves have granted our realm a considerable amount of insight into how they lived and the nature of their culture and traditions, and while it has since become clear to us that their lives were vastly different to our own, there is perhaps one thing that binds them, in all their greatness, to the rest of us; the revelation that they feared not only the same dark, primordial daemons of th |
| 14:08.46 | Xho | Ends at primordial daemons |
| 14:08.46 | Hachiman | Tell me where it ends |
| 14:08.49 | Hachiman | rite |
| 14:08.55 | OluapPlayer | Use pastie you gidiot |
| 14:09.46 | Treebeard | Charles_Flight Monet: Do you have any other suggestions for a fleet belonging to an empire with a disadvantage in terms of infrastructure? |
| 14:10.12 | Charles_Flight | Oh, that's a very interesting question |
| 14:12.52 | Hachiman | "the revelation that they feared not only the same dark, primordial daemons of the night as the rest of mortalkind, but perhaps something far, '''far''' more terrifying..." - High Scholar Vingrod Druthag of the Khargrim Realm |
| 14:12.52 | Charles_Flight | I'd say this: the nation with an advantage in industrial production will generally look to specialize its military assets as much as possible to lower the cost of the war in both materiel, treasury, and manpower. It can afford to crank out highly specific and elaborate equipment and troops tooled to a very specific task, while the disadvantaged emp |
| 14:12.52 | Charles_Flight | ire cannot. |
| 14:14.28 | OluapPlayer | I didn't think Praenuntius was as strong as you noted in the Vanguard page |
| 14:14.33 | OluapPlayer | Not that I'm complaining hur |
| 14:15.00 | Xho | Vanguard - step the fuck up lympharian-san |
| 14:15.19 | OluapPlayer | Praenuntius - 2 busy bein blue |
| 14:15.57 | Xho | Hachiman: tnx |
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| 14:16.07 | Charles_Flight | What did I miss? |
| 14:16.22 | Charles_Flight | Second part of the comment: The nation with a disadvantage in industrial production will face the reverse quandary. In order to have even the slightest chance of holding out, it can't compete with its larger foe on every scale. It needs to prioritize on those things which are essential to its defense, since defending in mass industrial warfare is g |
| 14:16.22 | Charles_Flight | enerally much easier than attacking. |
| 14:16.54 | Hachiman | Hope you don't mind the idea of the Khargrim having searched Orichalcum ruins |
| 14:17.31 | Charles_Flight | So for example, during the time that France was building itself up to face the DCP, its bomber design was tooled as both a tactical and strategic bomber, though was admittedly a little meh at both. |
| 14:17.39 | OluapPlayer | Khargrim - yes it's yellow all over |
| 14:18.51 | Charles_Flight | And when I play France in Hearts of Iron IV, going up against Germany at the time of WWII, you also see this in action. Germany is able to build tanks, invest in all sorts of crazy gadgets, tanks, bombers, specialists, etc, while France doesn't have that industrial advantage. It spends most of the game digging itself out of a supply hole while havi |
| 14:18.51 | Charles_Flight | ng a political straightjacket on |
| 14:18.58 | Xho | Fine by me really |
| 14:20.08 | Charles_Flight | So what I generally do is focus (1) very narrowly on tooling my army to defend the Maginot line, while Germany tools his army to fight offensively anywhere and everywhere, and (2) pump as many of my factories as I can into fighters because if France loses air superiority to Germany, it's GG. |
| 14:20.32 | Treebeard | With my limited knowledge of warfare, the aim of each side seems to be to stop the enemy from fighting. Could France (or another empire) somehow be left -unwilling- to fight? |
| 14:21.20 | Charles_Flight | Because that means German tactical bombers pounding the Maginot, and strategic bombers turning my industry to dust |
| 14:22.31 | Charles_Flight | Yeah, you've clued into a crucial element there––If you're facing a defensive war and there's no way to go on the attack, how do you dissuade your enemy from ever attacking you or, failing that, from stopping his attack once they've already engaged |
| 14:23.33 | Charles_Flight | The answer is in the details of every nation's political, economic, social, military, and historical situation, but a good rule of thumb is that if the attack is proving too costly and yielding too many results, there's only so much time the attacker is going to be willing to keep it up |
| 14:23.53 | Charles_Flight | Whether for political reasons or reasons of public support |
| 14:24.32 | Treebeard | Loss of public support might damage France more. |
| 14:25.44 | Charles_Flight | It's one of the reasons Vietnam (a tiny third world country) won against one of the world's nuclear superpowers. |
| 14:27.55 | Charles_Flight | test |
| 14:30.27 | Charles_Flight | Treebeard: If you're really looking to dig in and defensively hold out against France, blanketing the Talven territory in a massive set of well defended, well engineered anti-air positions might go a long way, as would be fortifying a great many of your planets. But that means that you can't do anything offensively, you can't project power |
| 14:30.51 | Treebeard | If the Talven Empire could take out enough intergalactic supercarriers, France would lose both Military capability and large numbers of marines/naval officers/etc.. Enough deaths will lead to a loss of public support. Of course, that wouldn't be easy. |
| 14:31.21 | Treebeard | Alright |
| 14:33.31 | Treebeard | Who has the best anti-air technology? |
| 14:34.14 | Treebeard | *that they are willing to sell to the Talven Empire |
| 14:37.50 | Charles_Flight | Yeah, that wouldn't be very easy, because France wouldn't need a supercarrier to reach the Talven Empire, they would just run a supply line through the hyperlanes at the back of the galaxy, through the Milky Way cooperative, and use that planet to the North of the Talven Empire as a jumping-off point: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/image |
| 14:37.50 | Charles_Flight | s/1/1f/Milky_Way_map_5.png/revision/latest?cb=20160612201032 |
| 14:37.53 | Charles_Flight | I actually have no idea |
| 14:38.08 | Charles_Flight | Generally fictions in Sporewiki haven't given anti-air much thought |
| 14:39.04 | Monet | The DI might be one of the better factions to approach for defensive technology. |
| 14:39.31 | Monet | Buuut they're close buddies with France. |
| 14:39.44 | Charles_Flight | Though do they have self-propelled hyperspatial anti-air missiles? |
| 14:42.02 | Treebeard | Monet: When the Talven Empire buys the defensive technology, they will be on good terms with Alexandre. |
| 14:43.15 | Monet | Then so long as the Royal Intelligence Agency doesn't get a whiff of the Talvent's plan, sale should be possible. |
| 14:44.40 | Xho | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/4/4e/AknatazanTower.png/revision/latest?cb=20160710144327 did a thing |
| 14:45.20 | ImpyDroid | Xho: Hm |
| 14:45.45 | ImpyDroid | What if Kicath are ultra-sensitive to colours and lights |
| 14:46.03 | Monet | They like their blue neon |
| 14:46.04 | ImpyDroid | Which is why their buildings are so dull-coloured |
| 14:46.26 | ImpyDroid | While all other buildings feel like neon and technicolor to them |
| 14:47.07 | Xho | Dunno really, never really thought of it |
| 14:47.10 | Treebeard | Monet: The plan belongs to Balbus, not the Talven government itself, and even he would prefer to avoid war, so that shouldn't be a problem. |
| 14:47.14 | Xho | Kicath just like blacks and silvers |
| 14:47.35 | Xho | http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/6/63/PaclernosCity.png/revision/latest?cb=20150910132214 Paclernos can get bright though |
| 14:48.25 | ImpyDroid | Actually if Paclernks himself is bright it makes sense that the buildings are dull |
| 14:48.55 | ImpyDroid | I mean if you apply the logic used in the construction of Saint-Petersburg but reverse it it is kind of logical |
| 14:49.17 | ImpyDroid | If the area is dull make buildings brighter and/or pastel |
| 14:49.26 | ImpyDroid | If the area is bright make buildings dull |
| 14:49.42 | Charles_Flight | England clearly didn't get the memo |
| 14:49.53 | Charles_Flight | :P |
| 14:50.05 | Xho | Indeed |
| 14:50.28 | Xho | Well Paclernos can get exceptionally hot in the summer so it makes sense that its bright |
| 14:51.16 | Xho | So much so that Kicath don't tend to settle near the equator |
| 14:51.16 | ImpyDroid | hur |
| 14:51.53 | Monet | The English enjoy dreary. Look at our comedies. |
| 14:52.22 | Xho | Paclernos suffers from a similar geographic pheonomenon to Mirenton where the area surrounding the equator sets itself on fire |
| 14:52.44 | ImpyDroid | Monet: http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/egor_lavrentiev/48706175/34209/original.jpg Meanwhile, polar Russia |
| 14:53.22 | Xho | Paclernos and Mirenton are very similar planets come to think of it, except Mirenton is overall larger |
| 14:54.00 | Monet | ImpyDroid: Ow my eyes! |
| 14:54.01 | ImpyDroid | I really should work more on Vendespode |
| 14:54.12 | ImpyDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:54.29 | ImpyDroid | Other than desert, jungle and some forest on the north |
| 14:54.40 | Monet | Imperios: Why can't Russians decorate their buildings with white brick or plaster like over here? |
| 14:54.55 | Charles_Flight | I'm not sure anyone else has invested as much into their airforce as France |
| 14:55.18 | ImpyDroid | Monet: Winter |
| 14:55.25 | ImpyDroid | Imagine white snow on white brick |
| 14:55.51 | Monet | ImpyDroid: "Can't see shit" |
| 14:56.01 | Monet | Actually I just remembered. |
| 14:56.12 | Monet | In summer, England looks like this http://orig00.deviantart.net/b493/f/2011/312/f/1/an_english_summer_by_uktara-d4fj4vk.jpg |
| 14:56.40 | Monet | http://cauxig.com/wp-content/uploads/cen_school_panorama_v1.jpg |
| 14:56.53 | Monet | http://www.summeresl.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/24.jpg |
| 14:58.12 | ImpyDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:58.14 | Xho | The Kicath aren't particularly militarised as a nation, 1/20000th of their populace is active military personnel |
| 14:58.47 | Monet | What's wrong with our rooves? |
| 15:00.21 | ImpyDroid | They look... Oriental or something |
| 15:00.50 | Xho | Hachiman: https://www.facebook.com/purpdrank/videos/1211679005532233/ |
| 15:00.54 | ImpyDroid | Look like they come from fantasy |
| 15:01.26 | Monet | A holdover from when we ruled India probably |
| 15:01.39 | Monet | https://twirlingbetty.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/arlington-way-bibury.jpg there's this, which is a bit more traditional |
| 15:02.02 | Hachiman | kek |
| 15:02.22 | Monet | Unlike St. Petersberg, modern Britain at least rarely sees snow. |
| 15:02.47 | Monet | We're lucky to get maybe a week or two in the height of December. |
| 15:03.34 | Xho | We get more snow in March than December really |
| 15:03.46 | Xho | December is still autumnal weather wise |
| 15:07.29 | Monet | A good deal of London looks like this https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Bedford_Square2.jpg due to a dual combination of the yellowish London Clay used and Victorian-era pollution. |
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| 15:11.44 | Monet | If you want gloomy though try Aberdeen https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2015/02/Aberdeen-city1.jpg |
| 15:12.15 | Monet | The region around the city was so rich in granite deposits that Aberdeenians just built *everything* out of granite. |
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| 15:12.49 | Monet | Hello |
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| 15:13.45 | Cyrannian | Hello |
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| 15:16.57 | Cyrannian | So featured fictions for this month are: The Zarbania Powers, Ryen, Quadrantia Radeon and Odyssey of the Desert |
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| 15:21.22 | Hachiman | I like how the stories I get featured are not even complete |
| 15:21.29 | Hachiman | But congratulations to the other winners |
| 15:22.33 | Monet | Congratulations. |
| 15:24.40 | AdmiralPanda | brb |
| 15:25.56 | Hachiman | Also, I just found out that British military forces created essentially several fake battalions on English side of the Strait of Dover in order to fool Hitler and his military authority that they were going to attempt invading Calais - fake battalions that consisted almost entirely of inflatable vehicles and fake radio messages to non-existent soldiers and personnel |
| 15:26.40 | Monet | I knew about the battalions, didn't know about the vehicles. |
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| 15:30.35 | NeonPanda | hi all |
| 15:31.24 | NeonPanda | the Admiral part has long since been irrelevant so going to my regular name, if anyone cares particularly |
| 15:33.10 | Cyrannian | Hachiman: Do you have any picture I can use for the Odyssey of the Desert? Even that of a major character |
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| 15:37.52 | Hachiman | Could use Khyannarith's one |
| 15:38.14 | Cyrannian | rite |
| 15:38.26 | OluapPlayer | ~kill Cyrannian |
| 15:38.26 | infobot | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized pseudoneutrino gun at Cyrannian |
| 15:38.35 | Cyrannian | ~hug OluapPlayer |
| 15:38.35 | infobot | ACTION sneaks up on OluapPlayer and suddenly hugs OluapPlayer tightly |
| 15:38.47 | Cyrannian | Any internet improvement? |
| 15:39.05 | OluapPlayer | Well it's not gone down today yet |
| 15:41.08 | Cyrannian | If you want to continue our fiction later let me know |
| 15:41.42 | OluapPlayer | I'm available now |
| 15:41.55 | Cyrannian | I'll just update Ryen's page first |
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| 15:53.45 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 15:54.17 | Cyrannian | Hello Quark |
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| 15:57.06 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 15:57.53 | Quark8 | Hello Drodo. |
| 16:00.38 | Treebeard|Away | Cyrannian: The new image on your user page is so brilliant that I need to come back to the IRC for a few moments to praise it. :D |
| 16:01.34 | Cyrannian | Glad you like it :P |
| 16:01.59 | OluapPlayer | dat pic |
| 16:02.04 | OluapPlayer | u feelin cheeky |
| 16:08.46 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Ryen#The_Rising_Light - c update |
| 16:10.28 | Hachiman | Agrehale's face in that pic is just like "well fuck" |
| 16:10.44 | Hachiman | Agrehele even |
| 16:11.06 | Xho | "[WAKE ME UP INSIDE]" - Agrehele |
| 16:12.44 | Cyrannian | "flying through the air makes me go rigid" |
| 16:12.49 | OluapPlayer | Ryen - dunt got time for bitches |
| 16:14.05 | Xho | Just realised that Agrehele could pass for a Néva in the Fantasyverse |
| 16:14.48 | OluapPlayer | Riad - oh dear Pelagrios - oh dear as long as she doesnt eat people |
| 16:19.01 | Xho | I should really start doing Fictionverse stuff again but I'm short on openings |
| 16:19.16 | OluapPlayer | You got two stories open |
| 16:19.24 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 16:19.43 | OluapPlayer | Kicath hijinks and that one about the giant spaceship |
| 16:19.48 | DrodoEmpire | Voidwalker thing, for instance <.< |
| 16:19.54 | OluapPlayer | Yes that one |
| 16:22.11 | DrodoEmpire | I would *really* like to get the ball rolling on Voidwalker, personally |
| 16:22.33 | Xho | dur |
| 16:22.37 | Xho | Alright Voidwalker then |
| 16:23.23 | DrodoEmpire | yuy |
| 16:23.26 | DrodoEmpire | :3 |
| 16:23.58 | OluapPlayer | Other than that I'd say you could just get the next Eschaton plot rolling when you feel like since the desert plot is not gonna get concluded anytime soon |
| 16:24.10 | Xho | True |
| 16:24.14 | Hachiman | Hey |
| 16:24.17 | Xho | I need to flesh it out a bit more or remember it |
| 16:24.23 | Xho | Hachiman: well get ur butt movin den |
| 16:24.46 | Xho | I can remove Drom right since he's no longer around |
| 16:24.54 | OluapPlayer | Don't 'hey' at me, whichever the reason the plot has come to a halt |
| 16:25.48 | DrodoEmpire | I think so yeah Xho |
| 16:26.49 | OluapPlayer | brb gotta restart |
| 16:26.59 | Xho | https://titanpad.com/uTzUtz9xLX Voidwalker People in here pls |
| 16:27.08 | Hachiman | I can't RP right now |
| 16:27.26 | Xho | Probably not an RP for everyone just yet |
| 16:33.36 | *** join/#sporewiki OluapPlayer (badaf85e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.218.248.94) |
| 16:33.36 | *** mode/#sporewiki [+o OluapPlayer] by ChanServ |
| 16:35.06 | OluapPlayer | Xho: kek your profile pic |
| 16:35.48 | Xho | Which one |
| 16:35.55 | OluapPlayer | Wiki profile |
| 16:35.58 | OluapPlayer | dingus |
| 16:36.05 | Xho | many rolls of the explode |
| 16:36.15 | OluapPlayer | spu became splat |
| 16:46.39 | ImpyDroid | >Radeons get featured |
| 16:46.43 | ImpyDroid | I win by proxy |
| 16:46.51 | ImpyDroid | mwahaha |
| 16:54.02 | *** join/#sporewiki Charles_Bot (uid94017@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-najwylubiprhufpj) |
| 16:54.14 | Charles_Bot | Still flying |
| 16:55.36 | Charles_Bot | Flight attendant - Do you have a visa or an entry card to get into the United States? |
| 16:55.47 | Charles_Bot | Me - I am a citizen of the United States. |
| 16:56.11 | Charles_Bot | Him - OH. O.O I thought you were French! |
| 16:56.18 | Charles_Bot | Me - >.< |
| 16:57.01 | Xho | doi |
| 16:58.07 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 17:07.40 | Charles_Bot | Test |
| 17:15.16 | ImpyDroid | Charles_Bot: lol I get that all the time |
| 17:18.02 | Ghelaway | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Super_Collab#Issue_3:_Aliens_and_size - basically a load of unnecessary stuff and then I'm asking how many people want to bring in new species. :P |
| 17:19.47 | DrodoEmpire | Okay |
| 17:20.51 | Treebeard | Xho: Would you like to collaborate with me (the Urnin) in the near future? |
| 17:20.58 | Xho | Perhaps |
| 17:24.43 | Charles_Bot | Landed! |
| 17:24.49 | Charles_Bot | I'm in New York! |
| 17:25.00 | Monet | Woooh! |
| 17:25.16 | DrodoEmpire | Cool cool |
| 17:27.09 | Treebeard | The eagle has landed |
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| 17:32.58 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 17:35.07 | OluapPlayer | Now to download all my Spore files again |
| 17:35.30 | OluapPlayer | It started out with Cyrannian's creatures |
| 17:35.44 | OluapPlayer | First downloaded creature = one-legged Dvottie |
| 17:36.00 | Cyrannian | As it should be |
| 17:36.04 | Spluff5 | How do you even pronounce that? |
| 17:36.08 | OluapPlayer | Also the first Apollo |
| 17:36.28 | DrodoEmpire | Dvottie? |
| 17:36.34 | Cyrannian | "Df-voi-tee" |
| 17:36.42 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, huh |
| 17:36.50 | OluapPlayer | Also again, a raptor-like Cognatus |
| 17:36.54 | OluapPlayer | I've never seen this before |
| 17:37.15 | DrodoEmpire | I had it in my head it was something like "Div-ought-tee"- because I'm dumb |
| 17:37.17 | DrodoEmpire | >.> |
| 17:37.36 | Cyrannian | I had to reinstall Spore after the last Windows 10 update and the first creations downloaded were Xho's. So, now in the tribal stage the first tribe I encountered are the "Female Ayrai'Shikua tribe" |
| 17:37.39 | OluapPlayer | I pronounce it as Dee-voh-tee |
| 17:37.47 | OluapPlayer | ayy |
| 17:37.59 | OluapPlayer | It's Dhazhrak multiplied |
| 17:38.14 | Xho | Dhazhrak - :c |
| 17:38.31 | Spluff5 | I'm findin it really difficult to login to my account actually |
| 17:38.43 | OluapPlayer | One thing I like though is how I recognize these old names as characters still active in the wiki today |
| 17:39.12 | Cyrannian | Also Oluap, you have tons of early creatures just out of the cell stage, which were very useful in speed-running the creature stage |
| 17:39.38 | OluapPlayer | I think I do yeah, I used to play that stage a lot |
| 17:39.59 | ImpyDroid | You did it because you wanted to do the achievement |
| 17:40.08 | OluapPlayer | Ah yes |
| 17:40.10 | ImpyDroid | You even called one race specifically after it |
| 17:40.14 | ImpyDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:40.19 | ImpyDroid | *Addicty |
| 17:40.20 | OluapPlayer | That was the Cell Stage achievement |
| 17:40.22 | ImpyDroid | Or something |
| 17:40.28 | OluapPlayer | And yes, Addicty |
| 17:40.31 | Cyrannian | http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=721804398 - canon |
| 17:40.36 | OluapPlayer | Who currently inhabit Borealis under the name Rafows |
| 17:41.10 | OluapPlayer | >rival tribe of females |
| 17:41.11 | OluapPlayer | lewd |
| 17:41.46 | OluapPlayer | Most creatures I evolved in the Creature Stage ended up at Borealis |
| 17:42.25 | OluapPlayer | It's the reason they tend to have a similar body shape and parts, since I always min-maxed when I played |
| 17:42.26 | ImpyDroid | Cyrannian: For some reason I think of Amazons |
| 17:42.31 | Hachiman | Raptor-like Cognatus? |
| 17:42.42 | OluapPlayer | Yes, the very first Cognatus model is a waptor |
| 17:42.55 | OluapPlayer | Dated November 2010 |
| 17:43.03 | Cyrannian | Oh yes |
| 17:43.20 | OluapPlayer | Then the models after it turned into Elites |
| 17:43.33 | Cyrannian | Before they were injected with 40 ccs of expy |
| 17:44.09 | OluapPlayer | >Tyraz Breek (Wedding) |
| 17:44.09 | OluapPlayer | hoh |
| 17:45.54 | Cyrannian | Did I make that? |
| 17:46.01 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
| 17:46.17 | OluapPlayer | Didn't you make an adventure of Apollo and Gianne marrying? |
| 17:46.33 | Cyrannian | Oh yes, that was fun |
| 17:46.46 | OluapPlayer | He must've been a guest in the adventure |
| 17:47.00 | OluapPlayer | Nonetheless it brings back the memory that Tyraz was once married to Lezia |
| 17:47.02 | OluapPlayer | nevr liv it down |
| 17:47.15 | Xho | Santorakh - kek |
| 17:47.17 | OluapPlayer | Speak of the devil |
| 17:47.20 | OluapPlayer | >Asgortus |
| 17:47.31 | Cyrannian | ngh |
| 17:47.55 | OluapPlayer | Now i'm at the first Neraida Cube |
| 17:48.05 | OluapPlayer | You got a buttload of shared creations |
| 17:48.10 | OluapPlayer | These till date from 2011 |
| 17:48.13 | Xho | muchos creations |
| 17:48.14 | Cyrannian | Looking back I only start becoming good in 2011 |
| 17:48.39 | OluapPlayer | First Khuenaten and Mar-Júun |
| 17:48.49 | OluapPlayer | Good lord the GCW was 5 years ago |
| 17:49.12 | Cyrannian | gettin old |
| 17:49.33 | OluapPlayer | There's also a pink Dhazhrak dressed like a girl |
| 17:49.37 | OluapPlayer | I remember you making pics of that |
| 17:50.01 | Monet | I came on at about the middle of it. |
| 17:50.38 | OluapPlayer | At late 2011 the creations start resembling the current ones |
| 17:51.58 | Cyrannian | You can tell when I began using dark injection when all the creations are ships and buildings |
| 17:52.10 | OluapPlayer | hur yeah that's true for all of us |
| 17:53.53 | OluapPlayer | Now it really is just ships and buildings |
| 17:54.24 | OluapPlayer | And it's over |
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| 17:55.44 | Monet | Hi |
| 17:56.32 | Cyrannian | oh god, Just encountered a pack of blue 'Good Xhodocto' |
| 17:56.46 | OluapPlayer | Those were made by Imp I think |
| 17:56.58 | OluapPlayer | Still, first Female Xhodocto, now Good Xhodocto |
| 17:58.29 | OluapPlayer | Now i'm downloading my own creatures |
| 17:58.36 | OluapPlayer | There isn't much to say about that |
| 18:00.08 | Cyrannian | I'm currently downloading Liquid's |
| 18:01.17 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Voidwalker_Conflict#The_Ancient_Halls Holy shit guys an update |
| 18:01.24 | OluapPlayer | impossibru |
| 18:02.49 | Monet | We're starting to introduce other characters now if anyone else wants to join |
| 18:02.59 | OluapPlayer | By the looks of it, I've lost around 400 creations with the burnt HD business |
| 18:03.14 | OluapPlayer | Soul shattered in approximately 400 pieces |
| 18:04.58 | Xho | Caligaduro - still not as bad as me ;~; |
| 18:05.31 | OluapPlayer | Koldenwelt - lucky seven |
| 18:05.50 | Xho | Caligaduro - if you call seven lucky you're fucked up m7 |
| 18:06.07 | OluapPlayer | >Dark Gyronic Xhodocto |
| 18:06.11 | OluapPlayer | dis old school kinda thing |
| 18:06.17 | Xho | aye |
| 18:07.04 | Xho | Cyrannian Hachiman Wormy_away: https://titanpad.com/uTzUtz9xLX for reference |
| 18:08.14 | Xho | Cyrannian dammit ur in dat fiction |
| 18:08.24 | Cyrannian | im dere u |
| 18:08.29 | OluapPlayer | waptor is extinct |
| 18:08.33 | Xho | i dunt c u dere |
| 18:16.01 | Charles_Bot | Sometimes I wish France had a competitor in the aircraft business, it would make things lively and interesting |
| 18:17.05 | Charles_Bot | One of the reasons aircraft technology evolved so quickly during WWII was competition to put better designs to production quickly. That means lots of interesting designs, lots of new and quirky things being tried |
| 18:19.10 | Hachiman | Don't really see the reason why or how their could be competition if France has optimised most aspects of their aircrafts |
| 18:19.53 | Xho | Kicath - because dakka at an interdimensional level |
| 18:22.06 | ImpyDroid | Cyrannian: Blue ones with fluffy faces? |
| 18:22.23 | ImpyDroid | Charles_Bot: Doesn't Turkey have a strong air fleet? |
| 18:22.38 | Charles_Bot | Sporewiki France |
| 18:23.05 | Monet | Military innovation usually comes from trying ot one-up your rivals. |
| 18:23.11 | ImpyDroid | Damn that is why the idea of Space France was problematic to begin with hur |
| 18:23.16 | ImpyDroid | Sometimes you get confused |
| 18:23.26 | Charles_Bot | Hachiman: They can continue to try and improve the design ad infinitum along a lot of lines, though with current doctrine the aerodynamics of the craft can't get much slicker |
| 18:24.05 | Charles_Bot | There's no point though, France's current fleet is more than sufficient |
| 18:24.10 | Hachiman | Exactly |
| 18:24.30 | ImpyDroid | I swear there will be a day when I will be asked who is France's head of state |
| 18:24.30 | ImpyDroid | And I will respond "Alexandre de Valery" |
| 18:24.30 | ImpyDroid | As for the question |
| 18:24.31 | ImpyDroid | I never understood why people use normal planes in fucking science fiction |
| 18:24.32 | Hachiman | There's no point competing since France has already won on that front beforehand |
| 18:24.48 | ImpyDroid | Can't we like use smaller spacecraft for this |
| 18:24.53 | DrodoEmpire | ImpyDroid: Because they're not normal planes? o.O |
| 18:25.09 | ImpyDroid | DrodoEmpire: Then it is not an air fleet but a tiny space fleet |
| 18:25.14 | ImpyDroid | Like |
| 18:25.20 | DrodoEmpire | They have a design *like* normal planes, which is excellent for atmospheric flight |
| 18:25.21 | ImpyDroid | Relativistic space fleet |
| 18:25.22 | ImpyDroid | There |
| 18:25.27 | ImpyDroid | Oh |
| 18:25.39 | Monet | A lot of science fiction treats space travel as like being on a ship or a navy |
| 18:25.50 | Monet | In real life however, a number of spacemen were *air force* |
| 18:25.51 | DrodoEmpire | Well, its sorta still an "air" fleet, and they function like aircraft militarily |
| 18:25.51 | Charles_Bot | Impydroid : They play a crucial role in warfare? They're still aircraft because they use lift to get around in an atmosphere |
| 18:25.55 | ImpyDroid | Well actually the Divinarium could *in theory* rival baguettes here |
| 18:26.14 | ImpyDroid | Most of their ships are very small and relativistic, they are fit more for atmospheric flight |
| 18:26.30 | Charles_Bot | Hachiman: France has stopped innovating, it's possible to catch up |
| 18:26.56 | Charles_Bot | ImpyDroid: I encourage you to read the sections about France's military |
| 18:27.04 | Charles_Bot | You might be pleasantly surprised |
| 18:27.04 | OluapPlayer | i put wings on the demons |
| 18:27.06 | ImpyDroid | rite |
| 18:27.07 | OluapPlayer | your move kiddo |
| 18:28.00 | Hachiman | I'll just stick to dragons and griffons |
| 18:28.13 | OluapPlayer | but u got none of those |
| 18:28.17 | ImpyDroid | So anyway the Divinarium's fleet is mostly small automated relativistic ships supported by larger, but still pretty small, FTL carriers |
| 18:28.19 | OluapPlayer | well you got dragons but not griffions |
| 18:28.24 | ImpyDroid | Which are manned |
| 18:28.26 | ImpyDroid | well |
| 18:28.28 | ImpyDroid | Radeonned |
| 18:29.26 | ImpyDroid | But also equipped with weaponry far beyond their size |
| 18:29.26 | OluapPlayer | I've been here for 8 years and I still don't know what relativistic means |
| 18:29.37 | ImpyDroid | Conforming to the relativity theory |
| 18:29.40 | ImpyDroid | Basically STL |
| 18:29.45 | ImpyDroid | normal speed |
| 18:29.46 | OluapPlayer | Right |
| 18:30.01 | OluapPlayer | I see that word thrown around often, and I always read it as "realistic" |
| 18:30.10 | OluapPlayer | "these ships in fact do exist" |
| 18:30.43 | ImpyDroid | So the basic modus operandi is "superior speed, maneuverability and, firepower but not very durable nor particularily numerous" |
| 18:30.55 | ImpyDroid | How would that far against baguette airfleets? |
| 18:31.16 | Monet | Relativistic = moving close to or around the speed of light. |
| 18:31.26 | ImpyDroid | ~attack Charles_Bot |
| 18:31.26 | infobot | ACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing Charles_Bot |
| 18:31.41 | Charles_Bot | Ow |
| 18:31.57 | ImpyDroid | Monet: Well I guess the large spaceships are more like sea vessels |
| 18:32.06 | ImpyDroid | While small relativistic craft is more like planes |
| 18:32.22 | ImpyDroid | Like thing these octagon things in Star Wars |
| 18:32.23 | ImpyDroid | What was their name |
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| 18:32.28 | ImpyDroid | Octagonal wings |
| 18:32.34 | NeonPanda | TIE fighters? |
| 18:32.35 | ImpyDroid | And the X-wings too |
| 18:32.38 | ImpyDroid | Yes them |
| 18:32.56 | ImpyDroid | *how would that fare |
| 18:32.58 | NeonPanda | doesn't even know what a TIE fighter is called, wut r u casul? |
| 18:33.01 | Spluff5 | Monet: were the Draconids present in the Milky Way 200,000 years ago? |
| 18:33.48 | Monet | Spluffs: I don't think so. But I've kept it vague how long they've had intergalactic travel |
| 18:34.19 | Charles_Bot | Here's what I've written about the French Empire's military so far: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:French_Empire |
| 18:34.26 | Charles_Bot | ImpyDroid: ^ |
| 18:34.41 | ImpyDroid | Answer my question plz |
| 18:36.10 | Charles_Bot | Moving through the airport. What was question? |
| 18:37.19 | ImpyDroid | How would Divinarium planetary craft fare against the French Empire's air forces |
| 18:37.42 | ImpyDroid | Most of theirs is automated and relatively small but packs firepower far beyond its size |
| 18:38.03 | ImpyDroid | This means it is quite expensive though |
| 18:38.55 | ImpyDroid | But also quite mobile and due to Divinarium zero-point tech can fly for longer without resupplying |
| 18:39.10 | ImpyDroid | What with lacking a pilot and having near-infinite energy sources |
| 18:39.34 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1468175318034.png I found a picture of you |
| 18:39.52 | Technobliterator | Pfffft |
| 18:40.16 | ImpyDroid | The page looks nic |
| 18:40.18 | ImpyDroid | e |
| 18:40.48 | Charles_Bot | Imperios: Depends on a lot of factors and information about the Div military, I don't know much about it |
| 18:41.08 | Charles_Bot | If you read the French military thingy, what do you think? |
| 18:42.08 | ImpyDroid | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Divinarium/Fleet?useskin=oasis It is pretty old but there you have it |
| 18:42.26 | ImpyDroid | I think the Divinarium fleet would fare better at prolonged warfare |
| 18:42.40 | ImpyDroid | While France would do blitzkriegs better |
| 18:43.00 | ImpyDroid | Which is strange because the Divinarium does not actually support prolonged warfare |
| 18:44.26 | ImpyDroid | Basically these Sororitas drones retrofitted in a variety of ways are the mainstay of holyrat fleet |
| 18:48.20 | Charles_Bot | French fighters aren't generally built to fight swarm tactics; they have low capacity but high staying power, they would have to accelerate their cluster munitions program or press many more manned fighters into service |
| 18:48.58 | ImpyDroid | >swarm tactics |
| 18:49.15 | ImpyDroid | Venoriel - lol get rekt m8s |
| 18:51.48 | Charles_Bot | Though it also depends on whether the Divinarium is equipped to fight at range and in hyperspace |
| 18:53.07 | Charles_Bot | French fighters can dogfight if they have to, their pilots are generally excellent and the air force benefits from experience, but French fighters are really equipped and designed to fight BVR (beyond visual range) |
| 18:53.37 | Charles_Bot | ImpyDroid |
| 19:00.29 | Charles_Bot | *pokes ImpyDroid * |
| 19:01.10 | Monet | So France may have a competitor after all |
| 19:01.21 | Monet | It may not be a rival but it's there |
| 19:09.03 | Spluff5 | Are we allowed to edit major pages such as the Milky Way history? |
| 19:09.24 | Monet | As long as the community agrees with the history |
| 19:10.08 | Spluff5 | Can wormholes by artificially created? |
| 19:10.26 | Ghelaway | Yes. |
| 19:10.54 | Spluff5 | Good, that's one plot point now destroyed. |
| 19:11.11 | Spluff5 | What did you guys think of my QM Stardrive? |
| 19:12.02 | Spluff5 | Not destroyed* Lol |
| 19:16.42 | Ghelaway | While it is generally agreed that quantum tunnelling is not really FTL, you seem to have done a good job at making something that does sound somewhat physically plausible; that makes it hugely better than nearly every other form of FTL ever conceived, so I'm not going to complain. |
| 19:17.02 | Spluff5 | Thanks |
| 19:19.19 | Ghelaway | Actually, I think that's how Wormy's "tachyon shift drive" would have to work. |
| 19:20.10 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Voidwalker_Conflict#The_Antechamber Holy shit more updates |
| 19:20.27 | OluapPlayer | Sudden productivity |
| 19:25.02 | OluapPlayer | I'm downloading your stuff now |
| 19:25.07 | OluapPlayer | >Descended Kraw |
| 19:25.10 | OluapPlayer | sizeable lel |
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| 20:01.10 | ImpyDroid | Charles_Bot: Sorry was off |
| 20:01.35 | ImpyDroid | Hyperspace probably not, it is not the favoured Radeon mode of FTL travel |
| 20:02.40 | OluapPlayer | Downloading Imp's creatures |
| 20:02.46 | OluapPlayer | I found the tophat snake |
| 20:02.49 | OluapPlayer | never forget |
| 20:03.21 | Xho | OluapPlayer: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=721904053 worst unbox ever |
| 20:03.53 | OluapPlayer | ur own fault for throwing money at gambling crates |
| 20:13.40 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: Funny thing is these snakes were fucking monstrous |
| 20:13.53 | ImpyDroid | They were my first succesful Warrior empire |
| 20:14.03 | OluapPlayer | Snake stronk |
| 20:14.07 | ImpyDroid | And I was aggressive as fucking when playing as them |
| 20:14.13 | ImpyDroid | I even warred with the Grox |
| 20:14.23 | OluapPlayer | dont thread on snek |
| 20:22.24 | ImpyDroid | anything else worthwhile? |
| 20:23.59 | OluapPlayer | Well, not much |
| 20:24.13 | OluapPlayer | I think I saw one Artharon character who was meant to be from that plot we never finished |
| 20:27.49 | ImpyDroid | The girl |
| 20:27.51 | ImpyDroid | ? |
| 20:28.38 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
| 20:34.50 | Technobliterator | ImpyDroid, just another reminder about Da Reckoning |
| 20:35.17 | ImpyDroid | When I am back from Spain sure |
| 20:35.25 | Technobliterator | \o/ |
| 20:35.51 | ImpyDroid | Why don't Spaniards speak English |
| 20:36.03 | ImpyDroid | It is like their English is worse than that of Russians |
| 20:36.07 | Technobliterator | When I went, a few of them did |
| 20:36.54 | DrodoEmpire | Probably too busy taking their afternoon naps to get up and learn it <.< |
| 20:37.02 | ImpyDroid | I have to explain myself by using broken French |
| 20:37.21 | ImpyDroid | I take French words and then pronounce every letter in then |
| 20:37.32 | ImpyDroid | Problem is now they think I am French |
| 20:37.53 | Monet | Everyone's taking international breaks. |
| 20:41.35 | Monet | Impydroid: Where in Spain are you? |
| 20:42.38 | Monet | When I visited Spain last year I found that in Barcelona a fair few people I talked to (mainly service and shop staff) understood English. In more rural parts not so much. |
| 20:44.53 | ImpyDroid | Monet: Valencia |
| 20:45.00 | ImpyDroid | A fairly rural part of it |
| 20:45.10 | Monet | That explains things |
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| 20:51.29 | Monet | Hello |
| 20:54.32 | Treebeard | Hello |
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| 21:00.54 | ImpyDroid | hi |
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| 21:07.34 | Monet | Hello |
| 21:07.37 | The_Randomness | I've returned from the barren wasteland known as "Wisconsin" |
| 21:10.43 | Ghelaway | Hello. I'd wondered where you'd been. |
| 21:11.12 | The_Randomness | I got dragged there since apparently one of my cousins that I only sort of know was having a graduation party |
| 21:11.42 | The_Randomness | And so, of course, I had to waste three days of my time just for that |
| 21:21.24 | Ghelaway | Well, when you've caught up with anything on the wiki that you might want to catch up with, you should notice that I've had a go at starting to answer your super-collab question of how old the Federation should be, by tackling the question of how big it needs to be to include however many aliens are in it. |
| 21:21.52 | The_Randomness | Yeah, I saw that |
| 21:22.11 | Technobliterator | oh, hey Random |
| 21:22.16 | Technobliterator | I watched this speedrun of TPL |
| 21:22.24 | The_Randomness | TPL? |
| 21:22.33 | Technobliterator | this guy managed to beat the game in 30 minutes by skipping through so much of the game |
| 21:22.37 | Technobliterator | Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy |
| 21:22.37 | The_Randomness | heh |
| 21:22.50 | Technobliterator | it was like |
| 21:22.51 | The_Randomness | any%? |
| 21:22.57 | Technobliterator | I could barely keep up with it |
| 21:22.57 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 21:24.19 | The_Randomness | yeah, the any% runs tend to be the craziest |
| 21:24.51 | The_Randomness | Unless it's a 1st gen Pokemon game run, in that case the game is broken anyway, so you just take advantage of that |
| 21:26.49 | Technobliterator | lmao |
| 21:42.44 | Quark8 | What is the current year in the fiction verse? |
| 21:42.56 | Xho | 2811 or thereabouts |
| 21:43.11 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah ~2811 |
| 21:43.32 | Xho | Going by the clock it's 2816 |
| 21:43.46 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah but we're all a bit behind |
| 21:43.55 | Xho | i.e. 5 years doi |
| 21:45.25 | Quark8 | There's a clock? |
| 21:52.13 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 21:52.39 | DrodoEmpire | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User%3ATek0516 - Made by Tek |
| 22:40.49 | Xho | OluapPlayer: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12654515_1679029702379940_7906184577856545403_n.png?oh=b2973020a019ce87b31805a9ce606a56&oe=582F0C62 It's hip |
| 22:41.10 | OluapPlayer | pyramid head bee |
| 22:42.17 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1917615_1664309010518676_5739369909353317426_n.png?oh=b20fb9bdb185842a94f1eed7d4a9a569&oe=58298A65 Fantasyverse in a nutshell |
| 22:42.31 | *** join/#sporewiki Spluff5 (ae188812@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.24.136.18) |
| 22:42.34 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 22:43.42 | Spluff5 | Hullo |
| 22:44.36 | Wormy_ | Bloodyhell I feel sozzled |
| 22:44.59 | Spluff5 | Oh, you're British |
| 22:45.11 | Wormy_ | aye |
| 22:45.57 | Xho | Most of the wiki is |
| 22:46.02 | Xho | Or a good deal of it is |
| 22:46.06 | Xho | I dunno goodnight |
| 22:46.57 | Spluff5 | I'm from New Zealand |
| 22:47.34 | Wormy_ | That might be a first |
| 22:47.56 | DrodoEmpire | I'm from Canada, myself |
| 22:48.28 | Spluff5 | Probably is a first. There are only 4 million of us. |
| 22:48.35 | NeonPanda | *whispers* sheep shagger |
| 22:48.37 | NeonPanda | I'm Australian :P |
| 22:48.43 | Spluff5 | Heh |
| 22:48.56 | NeonPanda | nah you guys are alright |
| 22:48.56 | Spluff5 | I think that's the Scots actually |
| 22:49.03 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, haven't seen many New Zealanders about the internet in general |
| 22:49.18 | NeonPanda | we established a long time ago that sheep shagger is just a commonwealth thing in general; everyone accuses everyone else of it |
| 22:49.19 | Wormy_ | Most places that isn't South of England |
| 22:49.49 | Wormy_ | they're just peasant shaggers |
| 22:49.54 | Hachiman | First of all, it's the Welsh :p |
| 22:51.31 | NeonPanda | my family lives on the east coast, we used to make jokes that if you listen really carefully on a windy day, you can hear the bleating of sheep coming from across the sea |
| 22:51.56 | Hachiman | kek |
| 22:52.02 | Wormy_ | I'm not drunk now so don't panic, but my town essentially had its food and beer festival, and I lived it till its fullest |
| 22:52.04 | NeonPanda | but I had a few kiwi friends in high school, so I know what you guys are actually like |
| 22:52.31 | Wormy_ | I feel it settling in now |
| 22:54.04 | ImpyDroid | NepnPanda: Well at least it is sheep *ecstasy* |
| 22:54.45 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman Spluff5: Pardon me, it is the Georgians |
| 22:55.33 | ImpyDroid | Spluff5: And, Russian |
| 22:55.39 | ImpyDroid | As in I am Russian |
| 22:55.49 | Spluff5 | Oh |
| 22:55.55 | Spluff5 | I wouldn't have guessed that |
| 22:56.31 | OluapPlayer | If we're saying our nationalities |
| 22:56.32 | OluapPlayer | Brazil |
| 22:56.46 | Hachiman | UK |
| 22:56.55 | Hachiman | Then again most of the wiki is UK |
| 22:57.04 | OluapPlayer | But if you point a finger at the user list, 8/10 you'll get a britbong |
| 22:57.22 | ImpyDroid | SporeWiki is like one of the last bastions of the British Empire |
| 22:57.34 | Hachiman | Except I'm not an imperialist monarchist |
| 22:57.47 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:57.57 | OluapPlayer | god save the queen |
| 22:58.03 | ImpyDroid | Wormy_: They are watching you |
| 22:58.05 | Hachiman | Pissing off the Free Masons is not a great idea |
| 22:58.21 | ImpyDroid | Prepare to have black helicopters coming for you |
| 22:58.28 | Wormy_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:58.28 | Cyrannian | Wormy is always prepared for that |
| 22:58.47 | OluapPlayer | Wormy has every conspiracy on his tail at every moment |
| 22:59.13 | ImpyDroid | Hm |
| 22:59.24 | ImpyDroid | Wormy_: You should like Gravity Falls |
| 23:00.03 | Wormy_ | hm,maybe |
| 23:01.22 | NeonPanda | bbl |
| 23:02.09 | Wormy_ | You can't run, you can't hide |
| 23:04.37 | ImpyDroid | It literally has the Eye of Providence as the main character |
| 23:05.02 | Hachiman | Main antagonist |
| 23:06.15 | Spluff5 | Are the Xhodocto still the most powerful race? |
| 23:06.21 | OluapPlayer | Yes and forever |
| 23:06.47 | Spluff5 | Are they hostile? |
| 23:06.55 | OluapPlayer | Absolutely |
| 23:07.55 | Hachiman | Hostile, but not active |
| 23:08.07 | Spluff5 | Oh, what happened to them? |
| 23:08.22 | Hachiman | They decided they had a million better things to do than destroy the universe |
| 23:08.45 | OluapPlayer | Real reason is their owner doesn't want to write about them right now |
| 23:08.46 | Wormy_ | They need something to troll with continiously |
| 23:11.26 | Spluff5 | Ah OK |
| 23:11.36 | Spluff5 | When was the most recent Galaxy created? |
| 23:11.45 | Hachiman | Years agio |
| 23:11.48 | Hachiman | ago even |
| 23:11.57 | Hachiman | We officially stopped creating galaxies |
| 23:15.38 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 23:15.50 | DrodoEmpire | A no more galaxies policy's been in place for as long as I can recall |
| 23:15.55 | The_Randomness | ^ |
| 23:16.19 | DrodoEmpire | The issue was that everybody made their own, and that made collabs tough :p |
| 23:16.43 | DrodoEmpire | Correct me if I'm wrong, anyhow |
| 23:16.50 | Wormy_ | it also became plain silly |
| 23:16.51 | OluapPlayer | That's the reason |
| 23:17.08 | OluapPlayer | Huge empty spaces doing nothing but create extra distance |
| 23:17.13 | Wormy_ | Problem was as aesthetic as pragmatic |
| 23:17.21 | Wormy_ | *as much as |
| 23:17.23 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah :p |
| 23:17.30 | Hachiman | There was talk of creating a new galaxy some time ago but it fell through |
| 23:17.49 | Hachiman | Like a second Milky Way that was not owned by anyone |
| 23:18.00 | Wormy_ | The Super Collab is a better alternative to create a new galaxy, as a new universe from scratch |
| 23:18.10 | Hachiman | Yeah but super strict rules |
| 23:18.22 | Hachiman | And hard science no fun allowed |
| 23:18.41 | Wormy_ | Its not so rulesy actually, we all work together and give feedback to each other |
| 23:19.25 | Wormy_ | Here you can see hoiw its going https://titanpad.com/hK8iu1YqBn |
| 23:20.49 | Wormy_ | I'm handling the geology, but I don't control the planet overall, if history-interested users want something changed, I can work my best towards that, but for the most part we can work around each other |
| 23:21.05 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 23:21.32 | DrodoEmpire | I handle some of the societal/historical stuff, based on my (rather limited but meh) knowledge of human history and why it turned out the way it did :p |
| 23:23.34 | Hachiman | Aren't people not allowed to create aliens or abhumans or something |
| 23:23.42 | DrodoEmpire | Uhh |
| 23:23.42 | Spluff5 | With this new universe, I hope the old universe will still be active. |
| 23:23.45 | DrodoEmpire | No? :p |
| 23:23.48 | Wormy_ | working with constraints has its own fun |
| 23:23.56 | DrodoEmpire | In fact there'll be quite a few aliens species |
| 23:24.08 | DrodoEmpire | And yeah working around constraints brings its challenges, and that's cool |
| 23:24.16 | OluapPlayer | We already have 2 universes simultaneously active |
| 23:24.19 | DrodoEmpire | *alien species |
| 23:24.20 | The_Randomness | "omg constraints" |
| 23:24.23 | OluapPlayer | Granted the second one only has 4 active users |
| 23:24.27 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah they tend to coexist well |
| 23:24.28 | OluapPlayer | Verging on 2 |
| 23:24.47 | Wormy_ | Forces you to think in new directions, often an idea isn't completely impossible you just need to work harder for it |
| 23:24.57 | The_Randomness | ^ |
| 23:25.11 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
| 23:25.16 | Wormy_ | This universe has FTL as well |
| 23:25.22 | Wormy_ | So hardly diamond hard SF |
| 23:25.23 | The_Randomness | And honestly, the super collab is the only thing keeping me here |
| 23:25.47 | DrodoEmpire | Right. |
| 23:27.25 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/RFz6HO9 |
| 23:28.16 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 23:28.19 | Quark8 | lol |
| 23:28.20 | DrodoEmpire | Pretty clever |
| 23:28.56 | DrodoEmpire | Actually speaking of clever church signs- I remember for a while in my town a few years back it rained like *constantly*, every day for like a week |
| 23:29.19 | DrodoEmpire | It got so bad that the church actually changed its sign to say "Whoever is praying for rain- please stop" |
| 23:29.32 | Wormy_ | lol |
| 23:30.54 | *** join/#sporewiki Hellrock (43b553e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.181.83.224) |
| 23:31.02 | Hellrock | Hi everyone. |
| 23:31.15 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 23:31.42 | Cyrannian | Hi |
| 23:32.18 | DrodoEmpire | Hi there |
| 23:32.34 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/KMLgsuV.png |
| 23:36.47 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Vehicle:Praetor-class_Star_Battlecruiser - Finished paeg, take a look |
| 23:40.56 | OluapPlayer | Good job |
| 23:43.53 | Spluff5 | I say that because me an Treebeard's ancient empires thing could really actually get quite big as an alomost prequel. |
| 23:44.14 | Hachiman | Ancient empires? |
| 23:45.26 | *** join/#sporewiki AdmiralPanda (6a461683@gateway/web/freenode/ip.106.70.22.131) |
| 23:45.31 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
| 23:47.29 | Spluff5 | Yeah, 200,000 years ago we are telling a story about a few races and a massive war between our two empires. |
| 23:48.11 | Hachiman | 200,000 eh |
| 23:48.17 | NeonPanda | Spluff5: As a fellow down-under-dweller, you're welcome to provide input/revitalise this http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Australian-New_Zealand_Republic |
| 23:48.17 | Hachiman | Interesting idea |
| 23:51.19 | Spluff5 | Hmmm |
| 23:53.11 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/8wvly9e.jpg why |
| 23:53.53 | Hachiman | Don't kinkshame |
| 23:54.06 | Hachiman | It can like what it wants] |
| 23:55.04 | Wormy_ | its a bit small for a bar of soap |
| 23:57.01 | Quark8 | The person in the picture said he would never wash his hands again, but couldn't he use only water? |
| 23:57.11 | Quark8 | Or use squirt soap instead? |
| 23:57.14 | Quark8 | *squirty |
| 23:57.46 | NeonPanda | I'm actually somewhat planning on expanding and building on that again, getting nice and Cyberpunky with it |
| 23:58.59 | Wormy_ | Too many questions |
| 23:59.10 | Wormy_ | its just a bar of soap |
