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00:38.50AnonyLurkHello, ladies.
00:40.00DrodoEmpireHi
00:43.12AnonyLurkWhat exciting things have you been up to recently?
00:44.40DrodoEmpireNot too much
00:54.02AnonyLurkRiveting.
00:54.07AnonyLurkWhat do you work as?
00:59.41DrodoEmpireHm?
01:04.50Tek0516Well this one show I watch had a case of really unfortunate timing. It's season premiere contained a shooting in a nightclub, originally scheduled to air on the same day as Orlando. O.o
01:06.54DrodoEmpireJesus...
01:06.56DrodoEmpire>.<
01:07.18DrodoEmpireThat'd be just about the definition of tasteless
01:08.16Tek0516For obvious reasons the premiere got delayed a week
02:21.00Wormy_F4What a baffoon, the EU has no reason to bend to his terms http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36637037?SThisFB
02:21.26Wormy_F4probably just wanted Cameron's place as PM
02:21.50Wormy_F4Only adds to my opinion these campaigns were built on selfishness and farce
02:23.50DrodoEmpireMeh, I hope the UK'll cooperate with the EU, though I fear the EU is far too interested in punishing the Britons :p
02:24.15DrodoEmpireThe US and Canada are interested in trading with the UK though regardless of Brexit
02:25.11Wormy_F4I fear that too, we are at their mercy
02:25.24DrodoEmpireNo, that isn't true
02:25.56Wormy_F4But yeah, the US and the Commonwealth shall be good trading buddies
02:25.58DrodoEmpireParticularly when two of the earth's largest economies still want to trade with the UK, this little game the EU wants to play is more even then I think you think
02:26.59DrodoEmpireIt'll hurt Britain, though, whatever the EU does. But yeah the UK still has its empire and its rebellious daughter as anchors through this :p
02:28.02Wormy_F4Maybe, I'm concerned about trade that circles through Europe first somehow, but we're in a good position I suppose with no land barriers West
02:29.23DrodoEmpireYeah perhaps
02:29.48Wormy_F4The Leave campaign still has yet to explain this too https://twitter.com/psluriebooks/status/746689275471740929
02:30.24DrodoEmpireThe Leave Campaign was a bunch of activists, not Boris Johnson. :p
02:31.01Wormy_F4I mean the people who organised it with slogans like that
02:31.02DrodoEmpireBoris Johnson supported the leave campaign- he was not its leader or commander-in-chief
02:31.28Wormy_F4They should have criticised it from the beginning
02:31.55Wormy_F4Instead they took advantage because it helped them by ignoring it
02:32.38Wormy_F4Enough people, particularly pensioners and those in care of pensioners probably voted Leave because of ot
02:34.29Wormy_F4Oh well, hopefully the public can now direct all its outrage on our own establishment politics
02:43.18Wormy_F4bye
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02:54.37DrodoEmpireHi
02:54.40The_RandomnessHello
04:31.02AnonyLurkhttp://www.adultswim.com/games/web/westerado
04:31.10AnonyLurkFriendly reminder that this game is great.
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08:54.49ImpyDroid2Exams are over
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10:42.20GhelaeHello.
10:45.31GhelaeAlso, bye.
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10:56.49HachimanHi
10:57.33TreebeardHello Hachi
10:57.56Treebeard(Hello Monet)
11:00.01Monetmornin'
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12:01.13AdmiralPandahi all
12:03.12MonetHello
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12:23.48ImperiosI AM BACK FUCKERS
12:23.53ImperiosTIME TO DO SOME FICTIO
12:23.55ImperiosFICTION EVEN
12:25.52OluapPlayerwoo
12:26.11Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Empire_of_Man/High_Kingdom_of_Alhassal It is just plain painful to see this page
12:26.12ImperiosLike
12:26.14ImperiosIt is already giant
12:26.18ImperiosBut still not even half done
12:28.21OluapPlayermake it giant-er
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12:44.02Wormy_hi
12:46.37Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Empire_of_Man/High_Kingdom_of_Alhassal#Arts Why am I even doing this
12:54.52ImperiosI won't finish this in ages, I should focus on something else
13:29.55OluapPlayerThere's nothing wrong in expanding on the fiction's culture
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14:13.28ImperiosHachiman: https://2ch.hk/po/src/16930426/14670348620490.png topkek
14:14.47HachimanDidn't know cockroaches could talk
14:16.46Imperioshttp://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/06/27/russia-turkish-president-sorry-for-shoot-down-russian-military-jet.html Here's the full news
14:22.57HachimanImperios: https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/13516740_1761900197421027_2902816744988616295_n.jpg?oh=15cbc12a4448fdc6434fc7cbffbc3c49&oe=57F54357 KAMATE KAMATE
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14:27.07Charles_MurrayImperios : Well I'll be damned
14:27.31OluapPlayer~eat Cyrannian
14:27.31infobotACTION slurps up all the Cyrannian available
14:27.31CyrannianHello
14:27.34Cyrannian~slap OluapPlayer
14:27.35infobotACTION slaps OluapPlayer, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
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14:30.13GhelaeHello.
14:30.28TreebeardHello
14:31.07Treebeard(Hello Cyrannian)
14:31.18CyrannianHai
14:32.26GhelaeSo the reworking of http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fiction_Universe/Important_Topics/Hyperspace is finished now. While I'm sure there may still be bits and pieces to add or change, I'm not yet going to be searching for them.
14:33.14Wormy_Hachiman:  I've got my own Jim'll Paint it!  http://jimscelebblender.bbcdigitalguerrillas.co.uk/?ref=vb4959xc9qbf
14:33.32GhelaeAlso, credit to Treebeard for pointing out that subspace tractor beams would be a better explanation for the mechanism behind interdiction fields than what was previously there.
14:33.48TreebeardThanks
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14:35.05CyrannianVery impressive work, Ghelae
14:35.22OluapPlayeryey, Kormacvar mention
14:36.33Wormy_Yeah, good work
14:37.27Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Vehicle%3ACyrannic_Imperial_Battlestation#Armament - Would the exalaser count as a hypermatter weapon?
14:37.31Charles_MurrayNYSE has only been open for an hour and I've already lost $50
14:37.34Charles_Murray#Brexit
14:38.06Wormy_Exalasers could be powered by hypermatter
14:38.12GhelaeI would expect so, yes.
14:38.44GhelaeIf it can destroy a planet, it's probably hypermatter.
14:39.47CyrannianOn the higher setting utilised to destroy the CRA Hubworld, it harnessed phantom dark energy
14:40.07Wormy_The only other alternative might be a Nicoll-Dyson beam, but that's probably more of a planet melter
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14:42.32Wormy_Oh I forgot - the DCP method of destroting a planet are by firing relativistic neutron ash projectiles
14:43.40Wormy_which might be hypermatter powered
14:43.53GhelaeYeah; you need to put a load of energy into them to accelerate them.
14:44.33Wormy_Its either going to be hypermatter directly, or the DCP's grid, which uses hyperspace anyway.  I prefer the latter
14:46.15Wormy_Essentially a grid of wormholes and warped space connected to DCP starships and infrastructure, powered by all the stars the DCP harnesses combined.  Electromagnetic radiation, other particles, plasma squeezed from the stars etc.
14:46.27CyrannianHm that reminds me of your old blogs
14:46.31Charles_MurrayFrance drops a lot of bombs, or uses the Souvertainté's riftfire bombardment cannons
14:47.06Charles_MurrayBut to destroy a planet would kind of be a war crime :x
14:47.21Wormy_Essentially its me being hipster, as I had the grid before hyperspace was a thing
14:47.36Wormy_But I think it would be more stable than hypermatter extraction
14:48.08Wormy_Destruction of planets is when a faction considers war crimes fun
14:48.34OluapPlayerfuk ur laws, planet explodes now
14:48.37Wormy_Its not to say the DCP doesn't use hypermatter though
14:48.39CyrannianModern Imperial ships can access coronaspace, but i haven't worked out how exactly it differs from hyperspace
14:48.58Wormy_Whats Coronaspace?  :o
14:49.37CyrannianHyperspace was too mainslipstream
14:49.39Wormy_I think there's room for hyper hyperspaces.  The realm of Gyronic is one of them
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14:49.49OluapPlayerIt's hyperspace but with dinosaurs
14:49.51DrodoEmpireHi everyone
14:50.02Wormy_Waptorspace
14:50.05Wormy_hi
14:50.12MonetI'm with Charles.
14:50.34MonetPLanetary Destruction must break at least a dozen rules of war all in one go.
14:50.44GhelaeI was thinking of whether different "---space" places would be distinct "layers" of hyperspace, where "hyperspace" is just a catch-all term to refer to all of them.
14:50.57DrodoEmpireIndeed
14:50.57Wormy_Could be
14:51.06CyrannianYes, that would fit
14:51.31Wormy_Higher and higher levels of dimensionality?
14:51.50CyrannianIndeed, that could be where coronaspace fits
14:52.09Wormy_Or just infinitely shorter wavelengths wrapped around the large extra dimension
14:52.12GhelaeWe could add more and more dimensions, but any matter is going to fall apart in >3 dimensions.
14:52.12DrodoEmpirehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ADeclaration_of_the_Conduct_of_War - Monet: "Any and all weapons that completely obliterate a planet" is banned according to this document
14:52.30GhelaeBut we can always add more layers.
14:52.42Charles_MurrayOnly applies to signatories, though
14:52.56DrodoEmpireNo, it doesn't
14:52.59DrodoEmpireLook at exceptions
14:53.20DrodoEmpireIts purposely vague there, to be fair
14:53.28MonetDrodoEmpire: I say all i noen go because theoreticallywe als ohave destruction of civilian property and destruction of religious structures at least
14:54.13Charles_MurrayMonet : That assumes that the empires in question follow international conventions of war, which is not a given
14:54.39DrodoEmpireBut that doesn't matter much as the document's been adopted by the UGA as a basis of international law regarding conflict
14:54.40DrodoEmpire:p
14:54.42MonetMy guess is Imperial High Command couldn't care less.
14:54.42Wormy_Ghelae:  Hyperspace is still on the brane isn't it?  Not the Bulk?#
14:54.47Charles_MurrayCertainly not with the CyraEmp, if I understand it correctly
14:54.55DrodoEmpireSo the signatory list needs to be updated to include the UGA at least as an advisory thing
14:55.30DrodoEmpireAnd yeah despite that there'll be those nations that disregard military law and ethics
14:55.35GhelaeWormy_: Hyperspace is sort-of brane-like and sort-of bulk-like. It's not really real physics, although it is based on brane cosmology.
14:56.05GhelaeRealspace is a three-dimensional brane folded up within four-dimensional space, and hyperspace is the part of that four-dimensional volume that isn't the realspace brane.
14:56.26MonetBut even if it's not a signatory, news of the Empire destroying a planet will not do well for international relations.
14:56.46DrodoEmpireYeah definitely
14:57.19DrodoEmpireBut the Empire may not care too much- it'd probably hurt their trade, but at the same time they've turned their home galaxy in to a fortress
14:57.54Wormy_Ghelae:  So we're not considering the other dimensions used in M Theory?  Are they folded up too tight to have any relevance in particle physics, to keep matter stable?
14:58.14Charles_MurrayThe Empire is a post-scarcity state, it doesn't rely on trade to the same extent that we do (if at all)
14:58.27DrodoEmpireEh I suppose
14:59.57Wormy_I ask, because I'm wondering whether gyronic relates to hyperspace at all, whether its just a deeper part of it, a different dimension, the Bulk, or a different braneworld altogether
15:00.37GhelaeWormy_: The extra dimensions that hyperspace has are larger than hyperspace, but hyperspace only extends a microscopic distance inside them. The Gyronic realm both has a larger extent in those dimensions, as well as an additional fifth dimension.
15:00.40Wormy_And what exactly layers of hyperspace mean if not greater number of dimensions involved
15:00.59Wormy_right
15:01.10CyrannianTrade with civilisations outside the Empire is perceived as a diplomatic gesture. Those the Empire does interact with seem content to overlook the whole planet destroying thing
15:01.49GhelaeAs for what a layer is, it's on the page: a layer of hyperspace is essentially another 3D brane that's branched off of the realspace brane and gone in the direction of an extra dimension..
15:01.52OluapPlayerNot a lot of people can tell them to stop anyway
15:03.26Wormy_Right, so other layers branch off in different extra dimensional coordinates, some with larger spacetimes than others
15:04.34Wormy_The universe and normal hyperspace happen to be the ones with only three dimensions (so matter is stable)
15:05.19GhelaeThe layers and realspace are what have three dimensions. Hyperspace overall has four.
15:05.20MonetThose nations that seem content to overlook it are either similarly inclined over planet-destroying or are too small to really protest.
15:05.47Wormy_Perhaps the Taldar in their gyronic realm are made of Essence, and Essence it something that can create stable structures in higher imensions
15:06.46GhelaeYeah. The idea is that Essence is in some way responsible for hyperspace being as it is.
15:07.45GhelaeAFAIK one of the problems in the real world with Kaluza-Klein theory is that, when you try to use extra dimensions to explain the nuclear forces, the spacetime that you need isn't stable on its own.
15:08.02Wormy_Cool, I think we should do some fiction deepening that idea
15:08.32GhelaeWe aren't trying to explain the origin of forces here, but it's the same principle. Essence keeps realspace folded up.
15:14.11Wormy_Essence of sort of like the Bulk in some respects then, the higher dimensional space which the brane is folded into
15:14.30GhelaeEssences exists within the bulk, but it isn't the space itself.
15:32.47Tek0516Monet: Ignoring the Uplay thing, do you recommend Anno 2070?
15:33.26MonetDefinitely.
15:34.19Tek051675% off right now so I might pick it up for the Steam sale.
15:40.55MonetIt's a great logistics management series
15:42.34Tek0516I watched some Let's Play of 2205 so I imagine the general management concepts are the same.
15:44.06MonetThere's a lot more micromanaging in theo lder games.
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15:51.53OluapPlayerspu
15:52.00Xhou
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15:56.18GhelaeHello.
15:57.56XhoHi
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16:00.43GhelaeHello.
16:00.49CyrannianHi Catface
16:02.18CatfaceWho is Catface?
16:02.33CyrannianWho isn't Catface
16:02.34Cyrannianbbl
16:03.18CatfaceWhat does it mean to be Catface?
16:03.32CatfaceIs anyone among us truly Catface?
16:22.23Wormy_Catface:  We are all Catface
16:22.31Wormy_All is one and one is all.
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16:23.27Wormy_Catface:  Never more
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16:44.27Tek0516Huh, Civ5 is apparently 92% off.
16:44.48DrodoEmpireo.o
16:44.49DrodoEmpireWOw
17:04.41XhoHow has anyone else here not got ARK
17:05.46Cyranniancus computer kerploded
17:06.26Wormy_Not yet
17:06.28Xhoget better comp den u
17:07.35Wormy_Xho:  My Jim'll paint it http://jimscelebblender.bbcdigitalguerrillas.co.uk/?ref=vb4959xc9qbf
17:08.04XhoWas not ready for that
17:09.15XhoArk is a very hard game at the start though
17:09.23XhoBy no means is it a single player game
17:09.44XhoI actually wonder what's harder, Dark Souls or Ark
17:09.46XhoArk Souls
17:09.47Xhoey
17:10.04Wormy_lol
17:10.15Cyrannian"David Attenborough transforming into werewolf inside a nuclear reactor whilst Madonna fires lightning from her fingers to defrost a prawn ring"
17:11.19OluapPlayerYou wouldn't know, you never played Dark Souls
17:13.51Xhou neva played ark so fakka u white boy
17:15.02MonetI died to a ninja carno earlier today.
17:20.39Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/z3GCZBF
17:21.00Wormy_Cyrannian:  You can make your own on that game
17:21.55Wormy_bbl dog walk
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17:33.34DrodoEmpireHi
17:33.36XhoMonet: I fucking hate dire wolves
17:33.46Rock_From_HellHello
17:38.33ImperiosXho: THE NORTH will REMEMBER this
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17:45.51DrodoEmpirehi
17:45.51Rock_From_HellHello
17:45.58Groxkiller98Hey.
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17:50.48Rock_From_HellIs Cyrannian away at the moment?
17:50.58CyrannianNot really
17:51.12Rock_From_Hellk
17:56.14Groxkiller98One of my Spore creatures won't show up on the Sporepedia. :|
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18:14.20Wormy_Is it me or is the Steam Sale a bit...  Disappointing this year?
18:14.41Groxkiller98I haven't checked it.
18:14.56Wormy_Though I'm hovering over Secret World and Kerbal Space Program
18:15.20Groxkiller98KSP is kinda fun.
18:15.34OluapPlayerI got what I wanted, so I'm not disappointed
18:15.56Wormy_Monet:  I know you play Secret World, I've always wanted to play it.  But is it worth getting or has the updates and MMO elements dried a bit?
18:16.46MonetHmm
18:17.00MonetTried getting back into it, not sure
18:27.13Wormy_Combat and MMO looks a bit lax in Secret World, udging walkthroughs
18:27.19Wormy_judging
18:30.23Groxkiller98I'm having trouble composing some images for a planet. Could anyone lend me a hand?
18:30.29Groxkiller98http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Tuu%27rao
18:31.45Wormy_I might get Firewatch
18:32.25Wormy_Spore GA dioesn't work for me anymore
18:32.57Wormy_I might be able to suggest tips for making images.
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18:44.31Treebeard_Hello
18:47.40ImperiosOluapPlayer: I've been thinking
18:48.00ImperiosWhat religions do the client races in the Dynasty follow?
18:48.35OluapPlayerThey're influenced into worshiping Almonohuim but are not obliged to
18:48.37ImperiosAFAIK the sand elves have their own faith, but do the rest worship Almohonium or have their own beliefs?
18:48.39Imperiosrite
18:48.46OluapPlayerThough all the races I made do worship him
18:49.20OluapPlayerSo there's nothing stopping the humans from worshiping Pheonas
18:50.22ImperiosYeah I was thinking if there could be religious minorities in both the Dynasty and Alhassal
18:50.58ImperiosAs in, Pheonas worshippers in the Merovar (humans and perhaps non-humans too), and Almohonium worshippers in Alhassal
18:51.04Imperios*Merovar Dynasty
18:51.20OluapPlayerRight
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19:09.24Wormy_F4Xho, OluapPlayer, Monet, Cyrannian|Away:  Kellog's pistol + Power Armour: Feels unstoppable
19:09.41Xhono cereal 4 u
19:09.42OluapPlayerI don't play Fallout 4
19:12.51Wormy_F4Well, never thought I could clear out Super Mutant holdouts with a revolver
19:13.14Monethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnMI7_iCG4E Nerd3 tries out Flight Simulator X with a modest starter craft.
19:14.44XhoNice small plane
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19:16.56ZF101Hello all.
19:17.19MonetHello
19:17.22DrodoEmpireHi
19:17.42MonetXho: "We're at Heathrow, you can tell we're at Heathrow because everyone looks sad"
19:17.50XhoAccurate
19:18.08MonetEveryone is sad because they lost their luggage.
19:18.45MonetI also like how Nerd3 turns by performing a 90-degree bank in an 747.
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20:25.55DrodoEmpireHi
20:26.19TheDinoHunterHi
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20:37.13Groxkiller98Hey.
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20:38.17HachimanHi
20:42.24HachimanThink it is safe to say Overwatch has much of my attention as of recent
20:42.41Groxkiller98I don't like Overwatch.
20:43.25HachimanWhy's that?
20:43.37Groxkiller98Not my kind of game.
20:44.04HachimanFair enough, I suppose
20:48.50MonetI have a few friends who play it so I'm tempted
20:55.53Groxkiller98I just want pictures for my fictions. But I'm terrible at it.
20:58.01DrodoEmpireThere're people around that might help with that
20:58.13Groxkiller98Well, mind telling me who?
20:58.26Groxkiller98I'll note them down then head to bed.
21:00.07Groxkiller98Actually, I'm just gonna head to bed...
21:00.13Groxkiller98Night, all.
21:18.27Xhogame of thrones tho
21:20.02Tek0516No spoilers. >.>
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21:29.58DrodoEmpireHi
21:30.09Monethi
21:31.14dino82_hi
21:50.48XhoTek0516: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEu1dFLwf3E Brief opinion on Ep 10
21:51.46Tek0516I've only seen up to Ep 5 of the current season so not clicking that.
21:52.02XhoThere's no spoilers
21:52.38Wormy_F4Sounds like someone is mowing their lawn at nearly 11 at night >_<
21:58.22Monethttps://youtu.be/tK3Eoyyvv18?t=2m43s fixing a car-crash Watch_Dogs style
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22:52.30ImpyDroidHachiman: Apparently there will be a Minecraft movie
22:52.53ImpyDroidI literally imagine a feature-length Let's Play narrated by a 10 year old boy
22:55.35DrodoEmpireolol
22:59.48Hachimankek
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23:24.41Monethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E6E5pmIT3c I just rediscovered this.
23:24.43MonetCHAOOOOS

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