IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160625

00:01.23ino82@Oluap: it opens new possibilities in the Quadrants, with an even more weakened RN it gives the New Republic and the Empire new chances and motives in the Quadrants, and perhaps for others as well
00:05.55ImpyDroid2dino82: Is she an X-Serindia?
00:08.03ImpyDroid2Xho ino82: If bastards in Everybodydiesland get a short surname depending on their country of origin
00:08.16ImpyDroid2Where does the name of House Blackfyre come from
00:08.23ino82@Impy: No not a X-Serindia, a Serindia-Nui
00:08.33ImpyDroid2>Serindia-Nui
00:08.45ImpyDroid2That name is <3 as fuck
00:08.48XhoNo clue
00:09.06ino82Idd, a Feather is a bastards child so Rambert as a proud noble didn't feel much to serve under a none Le Rambo
00:09.10ImpyDroid2Wait is House Blackfyre in the series or not
00:09.16XhoNo
00:09.21ImpyDroid2Ah alright
00:09.33ino82They are a sub species of Serindia (a more streamlined and a newer version, they have featherly tails instead of spiked)
00:09.43ino82House blackfyre is not in the series, just in the books
00:09.44ImpyDroid2I might or might not start watching GoT but I know who I will root for
00:09.51HachimanBlackfyre is a lineage based from a legitimised bastard of the Targaryen line, Daemon
00:10.03ino82I root for the Starks
00:10.13HachimanAnd is so called after a Valyrian steel sword
00:10.17ImpyDroid2Right so he eventually legitimised
00:10.19ImpyDroid2Alright
00:10.27ImpyDroid2Anyway the way I understand it
00:10.42ImpyDroid2That blonde dragon woman is like magic Byzantine
00:10.49ImpyDroid2And Byzantines are awesome
00:10.56ImpyDroid2Blonde dragon woman it is
00:11.08HachimanDaenerys is eh
00:11.10HachimanHer crew however
00:11.19ImpyDroid2So yes the inbred dragon guys
00:11.26ImpyDroid2All for inbred slavery
00:11.26HachimanGrey Worm is a fantastic character
00:11.30ImpyDroid2*inbred slavers
00:11.32ImpyDroid2...Wait
00:11.44ino82yup, Tyrion is great in her court
00:11.45ino82though
00:11.48HachimanAye
00:11.54ImpyDroid2>owned slaves
00:11.59ImpyDroid2>came from the South
00:12.02ImpyDroid2>inbred
00:12.26ImpyDroid2>had no unifying authority and basically a confederation
00:12.35HachimanUm
00:12.46HachimanWhere are you getting the idea that Valyria is southern
00:12.59ImpyDroid2I thought it was in the South
00:13.02OluapPlayerThe first three points describe the Merkan at least
00:13.04OluapPlayermrglb
00:13.12ImpyDroid2Wasn't it like somewhere in the Asia analogue but closer  to the west
00:13.18HachimanEssos
00:13.23HachimanWhich is in the East
00:13.28ImpyDroid2Yes Essos
00:13.40ImpyDroid2East but like isn't it tropical or something
00:13.47ImpyDroid2More down south than the rest
00:13.53XhoMost of its a desert
00:14.02ImpyDroid2Well that counts as southern
00:14.24ImpyDroid2So wait the greatest empire of Everyonediesverse was basically Dixie land?
00:14.28HachimanNo because it's not in the south hur
00:15.04HachimanAnd what is Dixie land/
00:15.14ImpyDroid2http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/gameofthrones/images/2/2c/Valyria_map.png/revision/latest?cb=20120403001551 I think that counts as south
00:15.28HachimanAh right
00:15.48ImpyDroid2https://musingsofalifelongnerd.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/valyria-and-ghis.jpg Yeah south to everything else
00:15.59ImpyDroid2Dixieland = Southern USA
00:16.21ImpyDroid2Slave-owning inbred southern confederacy
00:17.23ImpyDroid2"I wish I was in Valyria, valar morgulis"
00:17.49HachimanEh
00:18.02HachimanThere is a lot of incest across the continents
00:18.09HachimanIt's not exclusive to Valyria
00:18.25ImpyDroid2Didn't they have that ancient practice of sacred incest, Egypt-style
00:18.59ImpyDroid2"Oh I wish I was born in the land of dragons, old times there we use for bragging, look away, look away, look away, Valyria"
00:19.34ImpyDroid2"In Valyria where I was born in, early on one stormy mornin'"
00:20.00ImpyDroid2"Look away, look away, look away, Valyria"
00:20.44ImpyDroid2"Wish I was in Valyria, valar, morgul's, in Dragon Lands I'll take my stand, all men die for Valyria"
00:20.57ImpyDroid2"Away, away, away south in Valyria"
00:21.09ImpyDroid2"Away, away, away south in Valyria"
00:21.13Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dN0MJ-HSQ8 [Spoilers] Best scene
00:21.24ino82oh yeah that was gruesom
00:21.27ino82can't wait for sunday
00:21.31ino82last episode for thsi year!
00:21.54ImpyDroid2I used to smack people like that in school
00:22.59Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGBhqLn366w [Spoilers] Also a good one
00:23.13XhoBasically any scene with the Mountain's a good one
00:23.23HachimanI question if The Mountain is even stronger as a zombie than he was as a human
00:23.37XhoWell he doesn't have to deal with pain really
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00:29.23Wormy_Don't think it was a good idea to watch the BBC's new "The Living and the Dead" this time of night
00:29.36HachimanWhat's this?
00:29.39Wormy_I thought "BBC, how scary can it be?"
00:29.45Wormy_http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p03wv33v/the-living-and-the-dead-episode-1
00:30.04Hachiman"Pioneering psychologist Nathan is faced with a disturbing and eerie case - a young girl manifesting terrible voices."
00:30.07HachimanNope
00:30.10Wormy_A Psychologist takes role as an excorcist style story
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00:30.29Wormy_hi
00:30.35CyrannianHi
00:30.54Wormy_Few minutes in and I'm already shocked by a terrifying doll
00:31.54ino82hi
00:36.02OluapPlayer~eat Cyrannian
00:36.02infobotThat's too disgusting.
00:36.10Cyrannian~tickle OluapPlayer
00:36.11infobotACTION jumps on OluapPlayer, yelling "TICKLE FIGHT!!!!"
00:38.24Wormy_Hachiman:  As is typical, they are all very clean and immaculate for Victorians
00:38.41Wormy_This was still a time when people wore hats for not washing their hair
00:38.54Hachimanech
00:38.56HachimanAnyway gtg#
00:39.00Wormy_bye
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00:43.44ino82srry disconnected haha
00:51.03Tek0516ino82: missing a letter?
00:51.26ino82yeah
00:51.29ino82forgot one haha
01:02.30Tek0516Alright, only 9pm but gotta sleep because 6am shift. :/
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01:19.08The_RandomnessDrodoEmpire: You available for any collabverse stuff now?
01:21.26DrodoEmpireIts a little late- sorry!
01:21.33DrodoEmpireI had a busy day. >.<
01:21.35The_Randomnessaw
01:21.42The_RandomnessYou got anything going on tomorrow?
01:22.12DrodoEmpireYeah, I'm gonna be helping to build something and helping some people to move
01:22.16The_RandomnessAlright
01:22.32DrodoEmpireSo that'll take up most of my day probably- but I'll see how I feel
01:26.05The_RandomnessWormy_: Think you would be able to help with some FTL technology stuff when we see Ghelae on tomorrow (well, later today for you)?
01:26.27Wormy_Yes, should be able to
01:26.39The_RandomnessSweet
01:31.53The_RandomnessI figured I would ask since you have much more experience with the stuff involved with it than I do
01:44.58Wormy_https://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/resources/7379/
01:46.00The_Randomnesshm?
01:46.14The_Randomnessah
01:49.52Wormy_Nice that we can observe activity in distant reaches of the solar system
01:50.00The_RandomnessYeah, that's pretty cool
01:53.52DrodoEmpire"The languages spoken there (in Italy) are Italian, Slovenian and Hysterical Handwaving."
01:54.43The_Randomness:P
01:56.14Wormy_So a British physicist born in Iraq has been subject to racial abuse for his Remain position https://twitter.com/jimalkhalili
01:58.40The_Randomnesswow
02:01.17The_RandomnessI've never understood some people's hard-ons for hating immigrants and such
02:01.28The_Randomnessor people never of their ethnicity
02:05.49Wormy_Easy to blame I guess
02:06.35Wormy_"Us and them"
02:11.29Charles_Murrayhttp://www.theonion.com/article/americans-confused-system-government-which-leader--53156?utm_content=Main&utm_campaign=SF&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing
02:11.40Charles_Murray"Americans Confused By System Of Government In Which Leader Would Resign After Making Terrible Decision"
02:12.26The_Randomnesslol
02:13.10ino82bye bye all
02:13.18CyrannianBye!
03:30.02Charles_Murraytest
03:30.33The_Randomnessyes
03:30.56Charles_MurrayI have never seen consequences from a political decision as terrifyingly immediate as today.
03:31.10The_Randomnessyeah
03:31.38The_RandomnessEven while the votes were being counted, the British Pound was plummeting in value
03:31.45Charles_Murray^
03:32.01The_RandomnessDidn't it ultimately drop about 15%?
03:32.56Charles_Murray6.25%
03:33.04The_RandomnessI was only off by a factor of 2
03:33.06The_Randomness:>
03:33.24Charles_Murray;)
03:33.36The_RandomnessThis is a disaster for the UK
03:33.38Charles_MurrayUsually, the consequences of a political act take years to parse out and unravel. It's a tortuous, uncertain, and murky process
03:33.44The_Randomnessyeah
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03:34.11The_RandomnessWell, and the EU is in really big trouble as well
03:34.17Charles_Murray(In most cases you end up with more than one narrative about the events and the consequences)
03:34.28Charles_Murray(That's normal and hasn't changed)
03:34.29The_RandomnessSince now other countries are starting to consider similar referendums
03:35.04Charles_MurrayPopulist parties are calling for them, but believe me no EU government is going to make Cameron's mistake
03:35.10The_RandomnessYeah
03:35.18The_Randomnessfuck populism >_>
03:35.19Charles_MurrayReferendums are now out of the question unless someone's hand is forced
03:35.25Charles_MurrayHere here
03:36.21Charles_MurrayThe repercussions in the world financial system can actually be observed in real time which is what amazes me the most
03:36.26The_RandomnessYeah
03:37.26The_RandomnessIt's disappointing that the referendum ended the way it did
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03:38.46Charles_MurrayWe're in the middle of it now, so it looks like we might be entering a recession; and if we do, there's kind of nothing we can do to keep it slipping due to a ton of economics stuff
03:40.03Charles_MurrayAnd that would be a pretty lasting legacy of Brexit, with massive impact and the ability to change the political landscape of many of the world's countries overnight
03:40.23The_RandomnessAmazing what a populist temper tantrum can do, isn't it?
03:41.24Charles_MurrayOr we could bounce back, and our current overreaction will be seen as a bump in the road; something akin to China's slowdown. The actual repercussions will only be observable later, or possibly not at all, given that the direct cause-to-effect relationship between a weakening >
03:41.33The_RandomnessYeah, we'll see
03:41.54Charles_Murrayof the West's security/economic architecture and the potential disasters it may or may not have averted later down the line are impossible to correlate
03:48.04The_RandomnessHave a little time to listen to that idea for the Federation that I meant to tell you about earlier?
03:49.07Charles_MurrayAbsolutely, go ahead
03:51.45The_RandomnessSo, I had an idea that perhaps it could be related to the difficulty of FTL travel in some way
03:52.07The_Randomnesse.g. the individual nations may not be able to pay for the infrastructure required by themselves
03:52.40The_RandomnessI bounced this idea off someone else, who suggested that this would've resulted in a hydraulic state of sorts
03:53.40The_Randomnessone sec, checking logs
03:54.29Charles_MurrayI'm not sure you even need to come up with a technological explanation for it
03:54.55Charles_Murrayi.e., there can be plenty of economic reasons as to why manufacturing FTL in the periphery is just impractical
03:55.34The_RandomnessRight, let me finish this real quick
03:55.51Charles_MurrayThink about this: an overwhelming majority of the world's civilian passenger planes come from just two companies, Boeing and Airbus, America and France
03:58.04The_RandomnessAnd neither of those companies are profitable on their own, they're subsidized by the governments of their respective governments, right?
03:58.34The_RandomnessSo, eventually this hydraulic state dissolves, likely from FTL becoming much easier, and if it dissolves peacefully, we basically have the perfect setup for the Federation
04:00.29Charles_MurrayHydraulic state?
04:00.36The_Randomnessoh, right
04:01.53The_RandomnessSo, basically a hydraulic state is anything that maintains power by sitting on some critical resource or service, and the term arose since the original example was irrigation for farming
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04:01.57The_Randomnesshence hydraulic
04:02.23The_RandomnessSince no irrigation -> less crops -> uh oh, so respect me Or Else
04:04.01Charles_MurrayAh, I see; I'm not sure that in itself should be the only incentive for the federation to remain together, but it should definitely be a factor.
04:04.16The_RandomnessNo, this isn't the Federation, this is before it, actually
04:04.46The_RandomnessI'm getting around to that :P
04:04.55Charles_MurrayOh, I see. Sorry
04:05.03Charles_MurrayCarry on
04:05.15The_RandomnessSo, eventually easier FTL travel comes along, and the hydraulic state dissolves peacefully, so now we have a vestigial empire, and some sort of loose economic association between the individual planets
04:06.11The_RandomnessAnd this vestigial empire would probably be more of a confederacy than anything else, and planetary interests could find expression within this imperial system
04:07.00The_RandomnessSo, we maintain a central government (what we now call the Federation), even if that government has a smaller area of responsibility than before, when that hydraulic state existed
04:08.24The_RandomnessI think that's about it
04:10.40Charles_MurrayThat's definitely something to consider, and close to the kind of material transformation that quietly invalidates old empires and creates new ones
04:11.17Charles_MurrayI was more thinking an economic shift such as the one that brought about the end of the British Empire, but this is most definitely a good transition to consider
04:11.39The_RandomnessCould you tell me a bit about that economic shift?
04:14.13The_Randomnessi.e. the one that brought about the end of the British Empire
04:14.27Charles_MurrayAbsolutely, though I might need a second
04:14.32The_RandomnessSure, no rush
04:14.38Charles_MurrayExplaining Brexit to a friend of mine
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04:33.42Charles_MurrayThe_Randomness : Long story short, the British Empire was a network of local governments which were installed to rule over very large areas and (often) populations. These installed governments, often just a few hundred white guys, were >
04:34.55Charles_Murraykept in place by an equally large military networks by which professional troops (many of them from India) were shuttled around to maintain these governments which otherwise wouldn't be able to sustain themselves
04:37.58Charles_MurrayI make it sound a bit more simple than it was, though it's important to keep in mind the economic relationships also at play between the UK's many, many territories and the core. This whole Empire was maintained through mutual relationships of dependence between British wealth and industry, Indian manpower, African resources, and so on and so forth.
04:41.54Charles_MurrayWhen many of these components fell out of place during the World Wars, as for example the UK's favorable financial situation or India's unquestioning participation in the Empire, everything else began to fall apart
04:42.20The_RandomnessRight
04:43.00Charles_MurrayOn one hand, after the Second World War, the UK was in such dire financial straits that it canceled naval exercises and the operation of its navy in certain theatres because it couldn't afford the oil
04:43.56Charles_MurrayLet alone to maintain a global empire, especially in theatres like Palestine which were becoming ungovernable without greater investment of troops, resources, and patience.
04:46.27Charles_MurrayOn the other, the nature of local claims towards the British Empire had changed. Indian subjects within the Raj no longer sought rights as British citizens, members of one of many global empires whose continued existence and legitimacy was pretty much an assumed given until the end of World War I spawned whole new ideas of national determination, nationhood, etc; Local claims now took the form of demands for Indian nationh
04:46.49Charles_MurrayThough this was not the same everywhere
04:47.20Charles_MurrayThe UK was pushed out of India and Palestine because its presence there was no longer tenable
04:47.40Charles_MurrayBut once it lost India, now everything else was untenable due to suddenly losing all of the manpower of India
04:48.29Charles_MurrayAnd this, combined with changed ideas of the legitimacy of large empires and imperialism due to the discovery of the holocaust and of the horrors of WWII, colonialism fled over the next twenty years
04:49.01The_RandomnessRight
04:49.28Charles_MurrayIt wasn't exactly forced out by revolutions or rebellions like many tend to think. The colonial empires just fled; packed up their bags and left their colonies.
04:49.37Charles_MurrayBecause the whole thing was no longer tenable
04:50.02Charles_MurrayI hope that makes sense? What do you think?
04:50.07The_RandomnessYeah, that makes sense
04:50.36The_RandomnessSo, how were you thinking of applying this to the situation in the collabverse?
04:53.04Charles_MurrayOh, one big thing I forgot
04:53.19Charles_MurrayIn order to keep Indians in the Empire during WWII, the Brits promised them independence
04:53.23Charles_MurrayAfter the war
04:54.37The_RandomnessI see
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05:01.06The_RandomnessIt's entirely possible that a combination of a techological shift, a political shift, and other factors contributed to the fall of the Empire
05:01.16The_RandomnessAnd the subsequent creation of the Federation
05:02.44Charles_Murray^
05:02.53The_RandomnessAnd more likely, probably
05:03.03Charles_MurrayKnowing me, I'd probably pile on so many things that nobody would be able to understand it but me
05:03.08The_Randomness:P
05:05.03The_RandomnessThis is good though, we have a very solid basis for how the Federation came about now
05:06.21Charles_MurrayHnng
05:06.33Charles_MurrayI've lost $260 from this whole Brexit nonsense so far
05:06.37The_Randomnessrip
05:09.38The_RandomnessHonestly, I don't think any of us would mind if you piled a ton of stuff onto this
05:10.10The_RandomnessWell, since when was adding a bunch of depth to something ever a bad thing? :P
05:13.32The_RandomnessGoodness I'm making more and more of a mess out of my words as the night progresses
05:13.59The_RandomnessAt this rate I'll become unintelligible in the next 45 minutes
05:15.24Charles_MurrayEh, it's late lo
05:15.26Charles_Murraylol
05:15.28The_Randomnesstrue
05:15.30Charles_MurrayPerfectly understandable
05:16.04Charles_MurrayThough about depth – I dunno, depends on the writer :P Not many people on the wiki want to go slogging through my fiction in search of a simple answer when there isn't one xD
05:16.09The_Randomness:P
05:17.20Charles_MurrayTreebeard is doing a great job, honestly
05:17.23Charles_MurrayI'm very impressed
05:17.37The_RandomnessI honestly haven't been keeping up with the wiki at all >_>;
05:17.45The_RandomnessI've lost all interest in the fictionverse
05:17.53The_RandomnessThat's good to hear though
05:37.12The_RandomnessAlright, I'm off for tonight, see you later!
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11:55.31Wormy_hi
12:12.20TreebeardHello
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12:21.00MonetHello
12:21.23Wormy_hi
12:21.29Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/CpCql
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12:21.51HachimanHi
12:22.08OluapPlayerhai
12:26.10MonetHello
12:28.47MonetHachiman: Arch made an interesting claim in a video he uploaded yesterday. Suggesting that due ot firepower differences, a small group of Chaos Marines, 10 roughly, could take over an Eclipse-class star-destroyer
12:29.09MonetLargely on the basis that blaster bolts might do next to bugger-all against space marine power armour
12:29.44HachimanWell, Tau plasma guns definitely have an effect on ceramite armour
12:29.59Wormy_"Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government." http://imgur.com/gallery/5H3nWrr
12:30.22MonetThough that brings int oquestion of what a blaster con be compared to; a plasma gun or a lasgun?
12:30.46HachimanI would say a lasgun personally
12:30.53MonetYeah.
12:31.10MonetMenawhile the Chaos marines are carrying rapid-fire grenade launchers.
12:31.26HachimanRapid-fire grenade launchers and whatever Chaos mutations they possess
12:32.46Monetbrb
12:36.50Wormy_https://twitter.com/jimalkhalili/status/746681342688137216
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12:37.32Monetback
12:37.38Wormy_Hachi:  Unfortunately Jim Al-Khalili has been subject to racist abuse
12:37.48Wormy_https://twitter.com/jimalkhalili
12:40.44MonetHe's taking it well though.
12:41.53Wormy_best thing for him to do really
12:47.14MonetHachiman: Yeah. The Chaos Marines hold the advantages really
12:47.37MonetMuch thicker armour, and more devestating weaponry.
12:47.41HachimanWhat I really want to know is how Star Wars vessels and WH40K vessels stack against one another
12:48.17MonetGood question.
12:48.45MonetWHat ew do know is that an Imperial-class Star Destroyer is small compared to Imperial warships.
12:53.43MonetI should porably upload the story GD12 and I did where a chapter of Space Marines faced up against some Talon marines
12:55.04MonetIt was moreof a company but was still interesting
12:56.36HachimanMakes sense
12:56.59Wormy_I used to read a lot of sci-fi debates
12:57.19Wormy_Warhammer fans and Star Wars geeks are a bad mix I can tell you
12:57.57Wormy_But what I've picked up is that:  Star Wars ships have more firepower and better power-sources, and are more manureverable
12:58.01MonetOne-on-one I guess a combat armour equipped Draconis marine could be a match for an Asartes.
12:58.46Wormy_Though the IoM certainly has giant weapons capable of damaging SW ships, but are of extremely poior aim
12:59.53MonetIf it penetrated a draocnid marine's shield a boltgun could severely injure the target, ro kill him.
13:00.18MonetA lasgun shot however might to bugger-all.
13:01.27MonetTHe former depends on how effectively a boltgun can bore itself though ablative armour deisgned ot withstand abrasion and high temperatures.
13:01.37Monetboltgun round ,rather.
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13:03.35JepardiHi
13:29.18MonetWormy_: Regarding Warhammer vs Star Wars I can understand the arguments
13:31.23MonetWarhammer is interesting because it is simoultaneously somewhat plausible (FTL travel and communication is a pain in the ass, the Imperium strugges to exist because it's just so large and the power of industrial cpaacity is a key element in the fluff.) but also runs on comic-book logic.
13:32.09Wormy_Started watching Red Dawn (84)
13:32.13Wormy_TERRIBLE FILM
13:32.20MonetAnd is often written to appease its fans' desire to blow shit up in the most spectacular way possible.
13:32.59MonetWormy_: I've heard it's a cult classic.
13:34.11Wormy_The Russians landed by parachute and spread out spraying bullets at everyone
13:34.43Wormy_I would think they'd rather fortify themselves and await further reinforcements
13:36.16MonetWell if they did then it might take more than a group of cunning small-town Americans to topple the Russian invasion.
13:36.55Wormy_These high school kids pack up food and resources before fleeing to the hills, half way through they run out of water and resort to pissing into the car's coolant tank.  Why did they forget water?
13:37.09Wormy_and lol
13:38.55MonetWater shoudl be your first priority, indeed.
13:40.13MonetCould be worse, the remake uses North Koreans instead of Russians.
13:41.07Wormy_Oh dear
13:44.18MonetI myself saw the new Independance Day film yesterday
13:45.32MonetIt was...I'd watch it again, it's bizarre and definitely a step up from the first Indeendance Day in terms of what they managed to do.
13:45.43MonetWouldn't call it amazing though.
13:48.16MonetAnd that bit in the trailer that talks abotu the mothership "It's touched down over the Atlantic. Which part? All of it"...yeah they weren't kidding.
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13:48.35DrodoEmpireHi everyone
13:48.39Monethi
13:52.46Wormy_That...  Would have serious geophysical consequences.
13:53.51MonetWell you know that scene where landmarks form are dropped on London?
13:54.03Monetllandamrkes are dropped on London*
13:54.23Wormy_kind of
13:58.07MonetI'l ltry not to spoil too much but it's difficult to tell if the aliens did it on purpose or it was because the ship was jsut that damn big.
13:59.17MonetI've seen the trick before where something so massive causes people and cars ot float into the sky.
13:59.32Monetthrough its own gravity.
14:00.57MonetI can confirm however that the trailer doesn't reveal everything.
14:01.26MonetIt's definitely not a case of "seen the film by watching the trailer"
14:05.02HachimanHm, that's good
14:07.03MonetAlthough for me Independance Day is a guilty pleasure as it doesn't shy away form the idea that should aliens invade then wer'e all absically fucked.
14:10.03MonetThinking about it, I'd say it's a mroe up-to-date version of War of the Worlds.
14:11.38MonetIn some respects - and this is my opinion - it improves on the story.
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14:23.05MonetHello
14:23.38OluapPlayerspu
14:23.45XhoHi
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14:29.26GD12Hello
14:29.34MonetHi GD!
14:29.35GD12eek
14:29.41GD12I've probably got a few announcements to make
14:29.55GD12I'll post them on the IRC then i'll post them on a forum
14:30.20DrodoEmpireHi there
14:31.34Wormy_oh wow, hello
14:31.46GD12First is that unfortunately, it looks like i'll be completely thrust into work in real life at the end of this summer.
14:32.26DrodoEmpireAhh, okay
14:32.31GD12Second is that I'd like to tie up loose ends regarding fiction and realistically that means I'll have to cut down on the scale of what i've had in mind to cover in AD
14:33.06GD12Third however means that I'm deadset on achieving a conclusion to all that fiction
14:33.56MonetIt's great to hear you're entering the world of work so quickly.
14:34.39GD12Yeah :/
14:35.10GD12Unfortunately it seems like its the kind of intense 80 hours per week thing that will leave me burnt out for the first few years
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14:35.20MonetOuch.
14:35.24MonetHello
14:35.33Charles_BotHey
14:35.36GD12Hey
14:35.44GD12Announcements from above
14:35.51GD12"First is that unfortunately, it looks like i'll be completely thrust into work in real life at the end of this summer."
14:35.51Charles_BotHey GD12 :)
14:35.57GD12"Second is that I'd like to tie up loose ends regarding fiction and realistically that means I'll have to cut down on the scale of what i've had in mind to cover in AD"
14:36.03GD12"Third however means that I'm deadset on achieving a conclusion to all that fiction"
14:36.31GD12So its pretty bittersweet :/
14:37.38DrodoEmpireYeah...
14:39.21GD12Well I've checked my wall lol
14:39.27GD12I wonder who the anonymous wikia contributor is
14:39.59Charles_BotAs far as I'm concerned, what we planned already happened ^.^ You don't have to cover it all in detail, but it's already deeply a part of the history of the wiki
14:40.05GD12aye I know
14:40.10GD12but I like covering things in detail
14:40.16Charles_BotAnd the consequences are still felt to the present day
14:40.24Charles_BotRather starkly, in fact
14:42.05Charles_BotHave you seen this? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File%3AMap%20of%20the%20Modern%20Former%20Dominatus%20Territories.png?useskin=oasis
14:43.57OluapPlayerHey GD
14:44.01OluapPlayerLong time no see
14:44.55OluapPlayerfug
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14:46.37GD12`well that certainly sucks
14:46.42GD12`irc doesnt notify me
14:46.44GD12`when it kicks me lol
14:47.11GD12`what did I miss
14:47.29Charles_Bot7:42 AM <Charles_Bot> Have you seen this? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File%3AMap%20of%20the%20Modern%20Former%20Dominatus%20Territories.png?useskin=oasis
14:47.39Charles_BotAlso OluapPlayer saying hi
14:47.51GD12`Hello
14:48.18GD12`my my thats detailed
14:48.20GD12`nerdboner
14:48.59GD12`wow jewus
14:49.01GD12`thats awesome
14:49.40GD12`shame i missed AnonyLurk
14:49.52GD12`Looks like I had a passive aggressive fanboy on the logs
14:50.01Wormy_I'm nerding out right now, listening to AM radio static during a storm
14:50.34Charles_BotGD12: In glad you like it :D I tried to replicate as many of your locations as possible from your descriptions on your pages
14:53.09GD12`Anyways the cutting down on scale probably just means
14:53.14GD12`for a lot of the more generic battles
14:53.20GD12`ill just write them up as descriptions
14:53.31GD12`so its feasible to get to the end of it
14:53.33GD12`before summer ends
14:55.48Wormy_Would still love to do that utiliuty-fog mathematical-universe battle
14:55.58GD12`aye
14:56.05GD12`basically anything thats not generic
14:56.06GD12`ill detail
14:56.44Wormy_I've got a lot of fic to do myself, I've been thinking of summarising a lot of it into events
14:57.24GD12`i might also be a bit more liberal in the timing/ revelation of details so that not everything has to wait on big collabs
14:57.34GD12`also where can i make a forum post
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15:06.32GD12anyway
15:06.34GD12what else happened
15:06.38GD12that i should catch up on
15:07.20MonetQuite a bit lol
15:09.45GD12such as?
15:10.54MonetFrance is a 1st gig superpower, the AGC reformed into an Andromedan superstate, the Milky Way and Mirus have EU/UN-style galactic bodies.
15:11.00DrodoEmpireThere was the Great Xonexian Schism, not sure if you have heard of that
15:11.18DrodoEmpireYeah that's a good summary of what happened in Xonexi
15:11.47GD12o wow
15:12.14MonetAnother thing that happened was the formation of the Board of Six - a panel of the six mostp owerful empires in the Xonexi cluster.
15:13.15MonetSave for possibly the DCP - the board is a continuation of the panel of nations that led the war against the DCP
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15:15.46GD12_well i need to get a better irc client rofl
15:17.48XhoKicath - lol politics
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15:20.24GD12_does anyone have links to the GXS updates?
15:23.59Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AGreat_Xonexian_Schism
15:24.52Charles_BotThere's also Fiction:Xonexian Golden Age Timeline
15:25.52Wormy_http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Xonexian_Golden_Age_Timeline
15:25.54Wormy_Postwar
15:26.43OluapPlayerMeanwhile Borealis is kinda dead
15:27.25Wormy_The Loron committed a giant WAAAGH on the universe
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15:28.55GD12_colloquoyoh yay my colloquoy thing survives internet resets
15:29.14Wormy_Postwar  http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Xonexian_Golden_Age_Timeline
15:29.30Wormy_The Loron committed a giant WAAAGH on the universe http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Da_Reckoning
15:30.06GD12So the DCP is defeated?
15:30.11GD12Has that battle been written up
15:30.14GD12Then restored wow
15:30.50Wormy_Not yet
15:30.58Wormy_Basically the Civilisation turn on the DCP
15:31.07Wormy_and Technoosphere
15:31.27GD12oh wow
15:31.38Charles_BotAnd then the XA liberated the galaxy and now have joint custody over the Galaxy
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15:32.42GD12oh
15:32.52Wormy_We've not gotten to end of GXS, where its been left shows the cracks showing between DCP and Civilisation command, as well as goals
15:32.55GD12where you off to?
15:33.10Charles_AirportFrance
15:33.53Wormy_As soon as Da Reckoning is done I'l;l get back to GXS
15:34.12Wormy_My bit of Da Reckoning lol
15:34.40Wormy_Also another fiction I'm aware is happening right now is http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Neraida_War
15:35.28Charles_AirportAlso something that's happening right now: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AMarch_of_the_Eagles
15:37.05Wormy_Oh and I forgot, we have this going on http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki%3ASuper_Collab
15:37.20Wormy_new fiction universe being built by collasboration
15:38.11GD12Charles_Airport : Alexander I has certainly gotten powerful
15:38.19Wormy_Being developed here https://titanpad.com/hK8iu1YqBn
15:41.40Charles_BotGD12 : His title doe xD
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15:44.52GD12jesus
15:44.56GD12can a bot delete that
15:45.00GD12i dont want to get doxxed
15:45.07GD12everyone whose not a mod
15:45.11GD12please dont look at that
15:46.26Wormy_tries to remember his mod nick
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15:47.45Wormy_Was that what you waqnted?
15:48.35GD12well is it possible to remove the GD12_colloquoy thing from the logs
15:49.02Wormy_I don't know how to do that, that's managed by Chanserv
15:49.30GD12is techno still a wiki user?
15:49.41Wormy_Yeah
15:49.48GD12ehh maybe she knows
15:50.46Wormy_All I know is that putting a space hides things from the logs.  Nicks closing session or timeouts aren't preserved in the logs, but joining IRC does
15:52.11Wormy_Actually, its infobot, not chanserv
15:52.19Charles_Bot<PROTECTED>
15:53.05Wormy_We can tell infobot to either not preserve logs or not, I don't know about particular days
15:53.27DrodoEmpireCharles_Bot: I think its more the stuff that comes after is sensitive information
15:53.47DrodoEmpireThat could potentially be used to dox GD, not that anybody here would I assume
15:54.03GD12ayy what he said
15:58.16OluapPlayerWatch out I'm gonna dox you with your internet fiction
15:58.24DrodoEmpire*dun dun*
15:58.53GD12ehh whats done is done
15:59.01Wormy_GD12:  Gonna threaten dox you if you don't get fic dun
15:59.12GD12as good a motivation as any
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16:05.27GD12well that works now
16:05.32GD12no doxxxable information
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16:11.02GD12I guess i need to find my other mac as well to retrieve all those logs
16:11.07GD12*fiction things
16:13.55GD12anyway gtg for a while, i'll be back in 3 - 6 hours
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17:15.49Charles_BotTest
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17:44.44CyrannianHello
17:45.11Monethello
17:52.01OluapPlayer~eat Cyrannian
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17:59.03OluapPlayerMonet: http://i.imgur.com/gNRyvfi.png crippled dwarves can still fight
18:04.57MonetHe hits the gremlin so hard in the head with his crutches he blows the skull open.
18:05.27OluapPlayerThat was one of my dwarves
18:05.38MonetKind of reminds me of the time Nu threw a gun at Dreamy!Korteus' head.
18:05.47MonetCorteus*
18:43.49HachimanXho ImpyDroid: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Doctrina_Venefica#29.2F10.2F34:_Land_Shark SHAAARKS
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19:02.54The_RandomnessHello
19:09.22MonetHello
19:46.23Hachimanhttps://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/13438906_2304885659534480_8815099990024820525_n.jpg?oh=32bd52c60db6a84852b7e51c6faa0825&oe=57C11440
19:56.58Wormy_I posted rant http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Wormulon/Stuff#Freedom_won.3F
19:58.05CyrannianI'll take a look
20:06.14XhoOluapPlayer: I'm at 1:38 in and 1968 screenshots into this video now
20:06.20Xhodem screenshots tho
20:07.38Cyrannianhttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/9b/Battle_of_Coruanthor_02.png/revision/latest?cb=20160625195738 - New pew pew, added a couple of your ships Wormy
20:08.26CyrannianIt was shooting torpedoes ingame, but they disappear once you zoom out a certain distance
20:13.05OluapPlayershoot dat box
20:13.19ImpyDroidHachiman: <3
20:13.34Hachimanwat
20:16.18ImpyDroidHuh, did not think Undies could be a threat
20:17.25CyrannianWhat do people here think of ARK? It's on sale and I'm thinking of getting it
20:18.41The_RandomnessI've heard it's a good game, never played it though
20:19.15HachimanImpyDroid: Any mage can be a threat hur
20:20.52HachimanI mean, granted I doubt many Undines have a magic "fuck you" shark as a familiar
20:24.28MonetCyrannian: I've found it quite immersive
20:25.06CyrannianInstalling it now, perhaps we could meet up at some point
20:25.13MonetRequires a decent PC though, and dying means you lose everything you're carrying (unless you can reach your corpse in time).
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20:26.00GD12Hello for the second time today
20:26.02MonetXho and I have been building stuff. However our current base is in the mountains and without cold weather clothing you'll die of hypothermia.
20:26.06MonetGD12: Hello
20:26.15The_RandomnessHey
20:26.27XhoAh yes ARK
20:26.32XhoBeen while since I played it
20:26.51XhoCyrannian: Ping me when you can play it and you and Monet can go into our game
20:26.58Cyrannianrite
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20:30.43The_RandomnessHey
20:31.01GhelaeHello.
20:31.40GD12Hey!
20:31.54CyrannianHi
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20:45.01Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Coruanthor - Updated after the Neraida kerploded it
20:45.55OluapPlayerNCR - #rude
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20:52.02XhoCyrannian: u dun installing yet
20:52.27Cyrannian4.2 GB out of 10.2 GB :<
20:53.20HachimanEU now has 1 GB of free space
20:54.40Xho>10.2 GB
20:54.45XhoDon't remember it being that big
20:54.51The_RandomnessHachiman: savage
20:57.01MonetXho: Lots of updates
20:57.44CyrannianHachiman: https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/canon-fodder-buzz-generating - I lol'd at the description of the Goblin
20:59.11HachimanThe Goblin is kind of genius
21:20.21CyrannianNearly finished installing
21:30.23Xhoyuy
21:41.13CyrannianStarting up now
21:45.28CyrannianLoading screen is frozen
21:47.27CyrannianOh it's back
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22:37.28ImpyDroidMonet Hachiman: If Warcraft is going to have a sequel Duncan Jones should make a creator cameo as a goblin Trade Prinve
22:37.40Hachimanhur
22:37.41ImpyDroidSince goblins were in WCII
22:37.52HachimanIs this a David Bowie reference
22:38.08ImpyDroidYes, who else can play a goblin Trade PRINCE than the heir to the Goblin King
22:38.56HachimanNeeds to wear something that emphasises his crotch bulge
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22:46.37CyrannianSadface, my computer can't run ARK
22:47.20MonetEven with low graphics?
22:47.46The_Randomnessrip
22:47.54CyrannianIndeed, though it's strange because I was using the version for computers with 4 GB even though I have 8
22:54.59Wormy_Whats The Witcher like?  A cross between Assassin's Creed and Skyrim?
22:55.34HachimanYou'd have to ask Oluap
22:55.45HachimanIt's pretty good though, combat aside
22:56.07HachimanIt's more dark fantasy than it is high fantasy
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22:56.17HachimanSpeak of the devil
22:56.29HachimanOluapPlayer: Wormy was just asking about what The Witcher is like
22:56.31OluapPlayerwut u talkin bout me
22:56.42HachimanAnd I was saying that it's best to ask you
22:56.44OluapPlayerOh
22:56.50HachimanI just described it as dark fantasy hur
22:56.56OluapPlayerWell I'm not the only one who plays it here
22:57.42OluapPlayerBut it's an action RPG series set in a fantasy world
22:58.48Wormy_So since I like games like Skyrim and Fallout, I should like The Witcher, I'm guessing
23:00.40MonetYou might
23:00.57OluapPlayerYou and Jepardi also play it
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23:02.56AdmiralPandahi all
23:02.57The_RandomnessHey Panda
23:03.31Wormy_I see so its an RPG but with the camera in a close up third person perspective
23:03.42OluapPlayerYes
23:03.54OluapPlayerWitcher 1 can be played that way or with an isometric view
23:04.11OluapPlayerBut I found that clunky and played it all in third person over the shoulder
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23:07.45ImpyDroidHachiman: http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/agyQXBw_700b.jpg Holy shit a RL Warhammer giant
23:07.53Hachimanhur
23:08.06HachimanMore like a real life Eldar
23:08.08ImpyDroid...I guess it makes sense for giants to have proportions similar to people with gigantism
23:08.27ImpyDroidEldar would be anorexic model people
23:10.49HachimanAh, yeah
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23:19.15DrodoEmpireHi
23:19.29Rock_From_Hellhello
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