00:00.18 | Charles_Murray | That depends on what you mean |
00:00.44 | Charles_Murray | A common word is autocracy, but that doesn't really mean very much |
00:01.13 | Charles_Murray | OH |
00:01.26 | Charles_Murray | Wait, you mean lowly citizens as in a caste or a class? |
00:01.54 | Hellrock | I didn't really mean that. |
00:01.57 | Charles_Murray | Would oligarchy work? Aristocracy? |
00:01.58 | Hellrock | Just any citizen |
00:03.00 | Charles_Murray | Well, there's tons of government forms which don't have regular citizens (however defined) participate in government. How is power managed in your fiction? |
00:03.33 | Hellrock | I think either Monocracy, Aristocracy, or dictatorship fit best. |
00:03.43 | DanzaDelMondo | Oligarchy |
00:03.48 | DanzaDelMondo | Actually wait |
00:04.06 | DanzaDelMondo | How much power does the ruler have? |
00:04.23 | DanzaDelMondo | Like how much does he depend on the elites, the rich, the nobles, whatever |
00:04.33 | Hellrock | Well, not a single ruler, but a federal government. |
00:04.58 | Monet | So a federation where the general public has no say in politics. |
00:05.07 | Hellrock | From what I've heard, oligarchy means to have equally-ranked people overpower the main ruler. |
00:05.11 | Charles_Murray | Who is more powerful, the system or the people within it? |
00:05.17 | Hellrock | The system. |
00:05.35 | Monet | An oligarchy is a small number of powerful people having control over the government |
00:06.03 | Hellrock | Monet : Ah, ok. |
00:06.08 | Charles_Murray | Technocracy? |
00:07.14 | DanzaDelMondo | Right so it is a federal government then |
00:07.24 | DanzaDelMondo | So it definitely cannot be an autrocracy then |
00:07.30 | DanzaDelMondo | Who are the ruling class? |
00:07.40 | DanzaDelMondo | Are they like nobles, or just the richest guys in the club? |
00:09.08 | Hellrock | Well, a citizen can slowly rise to a senator. But only the higher-ranking authorities can vote and have control. |
00:09.27 | Hellrock | It's a work in progress. |
00:09.33 | Charles_Murray | DanzaDelMondo : You can have a federal autocracy |
00:09.49 | Charles_Murray | That's a republic |
00:09.51 | DanzaDelMondo | Charles_Murray: Actually wait yes |
00:09.57 | DanzaDelMondo | UAE |
00:09.59 | DanzaDelMondo | Forgot about it |
00:10.03 | Charles_Murray | Of the Roman kind |
00:12.02 | Charles_Murray | The Roman Senate acted more as a pool for citizens with administrative, military, or leadership skills, while the highest ranking and eldest Senators were the only ones with any real power (due to how the Senate worked procedurally). |
00:13.49 | DanzaDelMondo | Helrock: Hm |
00:13.52 | DanzaDelMondo | So a bit like the USSR then? |
00:14.14 | DanzaDelMondo | Where there's a ruling hierarchy with the guys on top selecting the ultimate top guy amongst themselvesx |
00:14.19 | DanzaDelMondo | Yeah like the USSR |
00:14.26 | DanzaDelMondo | Oligarchy it is then |
00:14.30 | DanzaDelMondo | USSR was an oligarchy |
00:18.37 | Hellrock | I'm starting to think of a corporatism. |
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03:35.33 | The_Randomness | Charles_Murray: Have you seen my suggestion for how the Federation might've come around on the collabverse pad chat yet? |
04:11.42 | The_Randomness | DrodoEmpire: Started a new Stellaris game, the first thing I find is the "Imperial Gorf Colonies" |
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11:52.58 | Wormy_ | 10 Children Raised By Animals https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPMBuNOKhVQ |
11:53.52 | Wormy_ | It sounds as though most of them were cared for and had more freedom in animal societies than human ones, as bad as it is to say they were better off without |
11:56.23 | SquanderedSon | I have a name for a little fictional empire I have an idea for called "The Liberal Gremlor Ascendancy" hows it sound to you guys? Too far fetched or fancy? |
11:57.18 | Ghelae | Don't put the word "The" in the page title. But as to the name itself, I don't see anything wrong with it. |
11:57.43 | SquanderedSon | yeah I wasn't planning too |
11:58.00 | Hachiman | What does "Ascendancy" refer to? |
11:58.48 | Monet | Wormy_: Differences in culture probably. |
11:59.26 | SquanderedSon | It is basically a fancy word for having power. The reason I use the word ascendancy is because the Gremlor race is basically run by a communist government. |
11:59.54 | Hachiman | Ah |
12:00.11 | Monet | Was going to say that modern life is comfortable but highly stressful but humans - especially in less well-off ocuntries - tend to treat people who don't act 'normal' as insane and will lock them in asylums or exploit them. |
12:00.45 | SquanderedSon | So it mirrors the ideal of being something special, even though, as you will know, communist societies don't tend to work out well lol |
12:01.01 | SquanderedSon | so it's basically like a pride sort of thing. |
12:01.13 | Wormy_ | Quite a lot of them seemed to end up rotting or dying in asylums, enslaved or forced to beg or go into prostitution. |
12:02.16 | Ghelae | "Ascendancy" has been used in the fictionverse before (e.g. United Bygorian Ascendancy), so it's not as though it's an unprecedentedly terrible name for a nation. |
12:03.20 | Monet | Wormy_: Although then agai nsome of these kids were found with a lot of scars. |
12:05.36 | SquanderedSon | Ah ok, good, although I might change it due to all the ultra terrestrial stuff. |
12:06.06 | SquanderedSon | I don't want to confuse anyone in that regard. |
12:06.22 | Monet | These wolfboys were probably competing for when they could tuck in to the pack's kills. |
12:07.20 | Monet | SquanderedSon: Ascendancy tends to have more spiritual/religious overtone sbut your choice ultimately |
12:08.05 | SquanderedSon | Yeah that's what I was thinking. |
12:08.26 | SquanderedSon | "Liberal Gremlor Union" Would probably be better |
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14:01.06 | Wormy_ | Do you think its worth trading in old PS2 games? |
14:01.20 | Hachiman | Nah |
14:01.24 | Wormy_ | I think I will struggle to find a shiop that will do that |
14:01.36 | Hachiman | Keep them though, they might be worth something in a few decades |
14:01.54 | Wormy_ | Hm, my room in desperately filling up with old crap |
14:02.03 | Wormy_ | Thats true though |
14:03.00 | Wormy_ | Maybe I'll be allowed to put things in the loft, not that I have ever been given that opportunity, which is unfair. |
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14:54.41 | Hachiman | So apparently there is another mass shooting going on in Orlando |
14:55.11 | Hachiman | A gunman on the loose has so far shot three people, including a four-year old |
14:57.03 | Wormy_ | Damn, I might be wrong because of the way the media portrays this stuff, but the disease of mass shooting/domestic terroism seems to be on the rise on the West |
14:57.34 | Wormy_ | It really needs sorting out |
14:58.08 | DrodoEmpire | Perhaps if the media stopped overreporting this, and we prioritized mental health. :L |
14:58.11 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway |
14:58.34 | Wormy_ | Mental health, and I would also argue more gun control. |
14:59.02 | Wormy_ | I understand it makes Americans feel like they are losing their old right of freedom, but times have changed |
14:59.04 | DrodoEmpire | I'd sooner not get into a gun control debate, but mass-shootings didn't happen like this in the 70s, and plenty of people had guns back then |
14:59.23 | DrodoEmpire | It isn't the weapons that're the issue, its society, and its the media |
14:59.27 | DrodoEmpire | That's how I see it |
14:59.36 | Wormy_ | Times have changed, and so must policies along with the public consciousness |
14:59.43 | Hachiman | Yeah, I'm not going to get into this other than I feel there should be universal, tighter background checks in place |
14:59.52 | DrodoEmpire | "Times have changed" is the most vague thing I've ever heard |
14:59.52 | Wormy_ | But I agree, its not just guns. |
14:59.59 | DrodoEmpire | How? I can tell you how and its not with guns |
15:00.08 | DrodoEmpire | Its with overreporting and bad mental health |
15:00.08 | Wormy_ | Well it clearly has, hasn't it |
15:00.13 | Wormy_ | You said it yourself |
15:00.31 | Wormy_ | Americans who don't want gun control cling to a very old feeling they have |
15:00.32 | DrodoEmpire | I did, and I also said it had little to do with the instrument people choose to use |
15:00.45 | DrodoEmpire | You said that and I disagree |
15:00.57 | Wormy_ | And that is selfish in my opinion, a feeling that allows children to die all the time |
15:01.11 | Wormy_ | I'm not saying "muh ban guns" btw |
15:01.18 | Wormy_ | It needs to be tighter |
15:01.26 | DrodoEmpire | I know but you're still using a vague emotional argument and that's really stupid |
15:01.28 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
15:01.30 | Wormy_ | To stop fucking nutcases getting hold of weapons of war |
15:01.34 | Hachiman | I would say that there should be tighter gun laws not because of the nature of the instruments but because it is clear many members of American society right now are not fit to handle them |
15:01.40 | Wormy_ | Why the fuick do people need assault rifles |
15:02.04 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy, stop. Just stop- if people want them let them have it- if people want to get them they'll get them |
15:02.21 | Wormy_ | Much harder in my country. |
15:02.34 | DrodoEmpire | Terrorists still get them, clearly |
15:02.41 | Monet | Modern media has become oversaturated with becoming known or notided. |
15:02.57 | Wormy_ | Rarely, the last death was in 1990. And fact that its happened just recently shows that disease is spreading here |
15:03.00 | DrodoEmpire | The best we can do, is to stop these tragedies by getting the people who'd do this help and stop glorifying them in the media |
15:03.13 | Wormy_ | Before Jo Cox |
15:03.15 | Hachiman | Wormy_: Last death was quite recently, actually |
15:03.20 | Monet | And the age of terror has shown it's much easier to act like a lunatic to get attention than doing something worthwhile ot society. |
15:03.20 | Hachiman | Right |
15:03.24 | Wormy_ | Political death, you know what I mean |
15:03.50 | DrodoEmpire | Also, Wormy_, how do you plan to get the weapons currently in US circulation out? Its not possible, and your solution isn't practical. We're dealing with completely different circumstances in the US |
15:04.11 | Hachiman | I still feel that this whole "every gunman has mental health issues" thing is complete bullshit btw |
15:04.22 | DrodoEmpire | Naturally yeah |
15:04.23 | Hachiman | Every gunman UNLESS they're a minority of some kind |
15:04.24 | DrodoEmpire | But some do |
15:04.30 | Wormy_ | Which makes the situation even worse |
15:05.01 | Wormy_ | DodoEmpire: No idea, and it would be a very long term thing |
15:05.46 | DrodoEmpire | Right, you don't have a solution. To be fair, I don't have a great solution either, but I know what *won't* work |
15:05.48 | Hachiman | Because then it is either gang violence if the shooter is black or Mexican or an act of terrorism if the shooter is Muslim, while every white shooter supposedly suffered from "severe mental health issues" |
15:05.55 | Wormy_ | Practicality aside, I'm not sure I tolerate the pro-gun people's feelings, people who seem unprerpared to make any change in policy whatsever |
15:06.25 | DrodoEmpire | They might be unwilling to make changes to *gun* policy- but they're willing to change other things |
15:06.39 | DrodoEmpire | Maybe its because they have personal experience with firearms and the industry, while you do not |
15:06.55 | Hachiman | Besides, truth is, everyone knows that these mass shootings are funded and operated by Obama to stir the masses and push his anti-gun agenda |
15:07.02 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
15:07.12 | Wormy_ | Mental health and media coverage ought to be improved. But the mot radical I'm being is to make gun control tighter, thats all. |
15:07.56 | DrodoEmpire | Which is absurdly vague, and I have no idea how it'll work- there's a handful of things, perhaps, but that's it |
15:07.59 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
15:09.00 | Hachiman | Universal background checks made by competent people? Restrictions on non-sidearm weapons like assault rifles? |
15:09.11 | Wormy_ | ^ |
15:09.34 | Wormy_ | It won't fix all gun crime, but its a start. |
15:09.50 | DrodoEmpire | I'm thinking more closing the "gun show loophole" by having to show ID and registration when purchasing firearms in these places |
15:09.56 | Hachiman | Of course |
15:10.01 | DrodoEmpire | Background checks? Perhaps, if its practical to do |
15:10.03 | Wormy_ | And a more protective policy of innocent people |
15:10.15 | Hachiman | It seems fucking stupid that you can buy a gun without having to show ID and registration |
15:10.35 | DrodoEmpire | And pistols are restricted weapons for a reason, Hachi- do research before speaking in these subjects :p |
15:10.51 | DrodoEmpire | Or rather more restricted than a hunting rifle |
15:10.53 | Hachiman | Don't talk down to me like I'm a fucking child |
15:11.11 | Wormy_ | There's also massive differences in the capability of these weapons |
15:11.13 | DrodoEmpire | Not trying to, but honestly |
15:11.22 | DrodoEmpire | Its more that pistols are easily concealed |
15:11.27 | Hachiman | Right |
15:11.38 | Wormy_ | Perhaps gun concealment should be banned |
15:11.38 | Hachiman | You could have just said that without making it sound like you were trying to be pedantic |
15:12.05 | DrodoEmpire | *possibly*, Wormy_, but that's something that can't really be enforced |
15:12.32 | DrodoEmpire | It would at least require authoritarian measures to enforce it |
15:12.35 | Hachiman | Because I am not going to deny that it makes sense that sidearms are more restricted given you've brought up how easily concealed they are |
15:12.38 | Wormy_ | And perhaps companies and institutions should have the power to bar people bringing weapons into buildings |
15:12.41 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
15:12.49 | DrodoEmpire | To Hachi, not you Wormy :p |
15:12.54 | Hachiman | Wormy_: They do; in schools |
15:13.00 | DrodoEmpire | That won't stop someone Wormy |
15:13.02 | DrodoEmpire | That's silly |
15:13.06 | Wormy_ | Yeah, but the government is pretty authoritarian as it is on many things |
15:13.15 | Hachiman | *Our* government is |
15:13.21 | DrodoEmpire | So why let them be even more so? |
15:13.22 | DrodoEmpire | That's a stupid argument too >.< |
15:13.22 | Wormy_ | No, but it creates a culture where guns can criticised more |
15:13.44 | DrodoEmpire | Is a shooter going to care? Do yuo think "criticism" is going to stop shooters? |
15:13.46 | DrodoEmpire | No |
15:13.48 | Wormy_ | Perhaps gun crime has become a trivialised thing |
15:14.00 | DrodoEmpire | Thank the media, and get data |
15:14.01 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
15:14.24 | Hachiman | I think the real problem is that whether or not guns do get tighter restrictions at this point, there are still many in circulation throughout the US |
15:14.38 | Hachiman | And it is far too impractical to clamp down on how many there actually are |
15:14.49 | DrodoEmpire | That's what I'm saying. |
15:14.57 | DrodoEmpire | Its easy to illegally buy a gun *anywhere on earth* |
15:15.03 | Wormy_ | Definitely agree there |
15:15.09 | DrodoEmpire | Some places you need better connections, yeah, but so? |
15:15.24 | Wormy_ | bbl |
15:16.17 | DrodoEmpire | Honestly I think the only real solution is, and I know I'll sound like an evil republican here, educate people on gun use, and just let people arm themselves if they so choose. Gun regulations seem to work only conditionally, and its culturally/politically specific |
15:17.59 | Hachiman | So what you are saying is that it's too late for America |
15:18.47 | DrodoEmpire | Not "too late", but the culture is different and the circumstances are different |
15:19.11 | Ghelaway | I suggest the solution is to replace all guns with swords, and allow everyone to have one. Then, rather than horrific mass shootings, we get epic fencing duels instead. What's not to like? |
15:19.16 | Ghelaway | goes back to being away before people point out the huge number of holes in that idea |
15:19.20 | DrodoEmpire | I do wish that were possible |
15:19.21 | Hachiman | hur |
15:19.48 | DrodoEmpire | Its not possible to use a modified version of, say, Denmark's gun laws in the US because the circumstances would mean such laws are unenforceable, and they'd likely be unpopular |
15:19.59 | DrodoEmpire | That's how I see it |
15:22.46 | DrodoEmpire | https://scontent.fyhz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/13445225_557816017723641_6084733049011094533_n.jpg?oh=e030104728053c8620835ae1677e122d&oe=57F0CBB9 |
15:23.07 | Hachiman | I am beginning to wonder how you feel about the UK's anti-weapon policies |
15:23.22 | DrodoEmpire | Me? |
15:23.25 | Hachiman | Yeah |
15:23.34 | Technobliterator | no, the solution is to replace all humans with robots |
15:23.42 | Technobliterator | then there will be no mass shootings |
15:23.56 | DrodoEmpire | What about mass-deactivations? <.< |
15:24.09 | OluapPlayer | Yes, there'll be mass LASER shootings |
15:24.12 | OluapPlayer | Which are cooler |
15:24.15 | Technobliterator | Indeed |
15:24.48 | Hachiman | A majority of British police officers do not carry firearms and those that do have strict regulations on when they use them and how to use them |
15:24.50 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not a great fan of most weapon regulation, as its usually written really bizarrely- I'm not sure exactly what's its like in the UK but I know in Canada flip knives are legal, but butterfly knives aren't for absolutely no logical reason |
15:25.47 | DrodoEmpire | And similar regulations exist in countries that may allow a semi-automatic rifle when it has wood furnishings, but ban it as an "assault weapon" when it has carbon-black furnishings and a pistol grip despite being the exact same weapon |
15:26.03 | OluapPlayer | when the caterpillar knife gets old, it grows wings and becomes a butterfly knife |
15:26.06 | OluapPlayer | and you don't want knives with wings around |
15:26.10 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
15:27.00 | Technobliterator | but guys |
15:27.14 | Technobliterator | we all know that it's all the policy of the Obama administration to take guns away |
15:27.18 | Technobliterator | so he can enforce martial law |
15:27.20 | Hachiman | I made this joke |
15:27.27 | Technobliterator | bleh |
15:27.31 | Technobliterator | I missed it then |
15:27.41 | Technobliterator | oh |
15:27.43 | Technobliterator | yes you di |
15:27.44 | Technobliterator | d |
15:27.44 | Monet | How can he enforce martial law in the last few months of his term? |
15:28.00 | Technobliterator | He'll find away, you see, he'll repeal the constitution |
15:28.07 | Technobliterator | and turn the country into an ISIS califate |
15:28.18 | DrodoEmpire | "NO ELECTIONS! I'VE BEEN A KENYAN AGENT ALL ALONG!" |
15:28.19 | Hachiman | I do not know the exact regulations on knives but I know that a majority of firearms are outright banned from public access unless one lives in a rural area - even then, they are allowed rifles and shotguns (I think?) and require licences and ID in order to own them |
15:28.28 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
15:28.40 | Hachiman | Used for the purposes of hunting animals |
15:28.47 | Monet | Yeah you need a liscence to carry a rifle or shotgun. |
15:29.04 | Monet | Hunting animals or defending your farm against foxes and the like. |
15:29.06 | DrodoEmpire | Well I know what I'd prefer, but the circumstances are different in the UK |
15:29.09 | Technobliterator | alright, seriously, we know how to solve the mass shooting problems |
15:29.15 | DrodoEmpire | So I can't say much |
15:29.19 | Technobliterator | all weapons should require a nanomachine injection to use them |
15:29.24 | Technobliterator | or else they will never fire |
15:29.26 | OluapPlayer | THE SYSTEM IS MINE |
15:29.31 | Hachiman | fukn MGS fag |
15:29.33 | Technobliterator | YOUR GUNS AND YOUR WEAPONS |
15:29.36 | Technobliterator | ARE NO LONGER YOUR OWN |
15:30.29 | Hachiman | But yes, as idealistic as ID-controlled weapons are, note that it is a point in MGS4 that weapons that do not require ID are still on the black market |
15:30.34 | OluapPlayer | Pistol Puma and the Puma Patrol |
15:30.49 | DrodoEmpire | Well yeah, it faces the exact same problems as licensing and everything else |
15:30.59 | Technobliterator | it wouldn't really work |
15:32.01 | Technobliterator | problem is, new technology just enables cybercrime |
15:32.14 | Technobliterator | I bet, for instance, the DNC will return to using paper after the recent hack |
15:32.55 | Monet | Both the War Economy and the use of ID-controlled weapons just couldn't work. |
15:33.12 | Monet | mass use* |
15:33.40 | Technobliterator | the War Economy already does work |
15:33.46 | Technobliterator | It's just less subtle |
15:33.53 | Monet | Not to MGS4's extent |
15:33.54 | Technobliterator | ID controlled weapons on that scale? Probably not |
15:33.59 | Technobliterator | Of course |
15:34.05 | DrodoEmpire | Actually here's a different question- Why does the UK drive on the left? <.< |
15:34.16 | Technobliterator | there is no good answer to that question |
15:34.30 | Monet | We just do. |
15:34.33 | DrodoEmpire | I've always wondered considering like 80% of the planet drives on the right >.< |
15:34.43 | Monet | We spread our left-driveyness across the world. |
15:34.52 | OluapPlayer | ROIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FACKIN ROAD |
15:34.54 | Technobliterator | there's no good reason for it |
15:35.15 | Technobliterator | alright, here's a hypothetical scenario |
15:35.22 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Yeah, it basically mirrors the British Empire (with the exception of Canada) |
15:35.24 | DrodoEmpire | Left-driving |
15:35.24 | Technobliterator | EU remain wins tomorrow, then later on, new EU law |
15:35.30 | Technobliterator | enforces driving on the right side of the road |
15:35.42 | Technobliterator | suddenly, another Brexit referendum |
15:35.56 | Cyrannian | Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEEQpTnfNfg |
15:36.40 | Hachiman | "Did somebody fart?" "I hope so. And I hope it was you." |
15:36.43 | Hachiman | Holy shit R'tas |
15:36.46 | Monet | Well the current system of a "please drive on the left side of the road" sign at Dover. |
15:36.55 | Monet | works fine so far |
15:37.06 | Cyrannian | You should watch that dub series, it's hilarious |
15:37.13 | Hachiman | Sure |
15:37.30 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: Remain is not winning tomorrow |
15:37.35 | Technobliterator | Sadly, I know |
15:37.49 | Technobliterator | I was just making a joke |
15:38.09 | Monet | Just a year ago peopel were saying we'd have a hung parliament. Polls are just estimates. |
15:38.19 | DrodoEmpire | l e a v e t h e e u |
15:38.28 | Hachiman | As much as I want Remain to win, it is just not possible |
15:38.36 | Technobliterator | Indeed |
15:39.07 | Technobliterator | oh well, we can look forward to our 2020 UKIP majority government working with President Trump to try and avoid the nuclear apocalypse |
15:39.17 | Hachiman | Aye |
15:39.37 | Technobliterator | well done, humans, your ability to make decisions is truly impeccable |
15:39.51 | Hachiman | We can focus on that now that we're back to fucking our cousins to keep British blood pure due to the absence of foreigners |
15:40.00 | Technobliterator | lmao |
15:40.01 | Technobliterator | yeah |
15:40.55 | Hachiman | Maybe we can form the Second Empire of Britain and pick a fight with Russia to get ourselves killed off quicker |
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15:41.34 | Technobliterator | oh, I'm sure Prime Minister Johnson or Prime Minster Gove would happily do that |
15:42.08 | Hachiman | I wouldn't even be mad if Boris Johnson became PM because I at least find him entertaining |
15:42.23 | Hachiman | I would get to laugh while the country burns to a fucking crisp around me |
15:43.35 | OluapPlayer | edgelord |
15:44.00 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
15:44.05 | Technobliterator | it's not being edgy |
15:44.08 | DrodoEmpire | edgiest edge |
15:44.12 | DrodoEmpire | mirror's edge |
15:44.14 | Technobliterator | see, what it is is just pessimism |
15:44.23 | Technobliterator | this way, neither me nor Hachi are disappointed when we get the worst outcome |
15:44.32 | Technobliterator | but we're pleasantly surprised when we get the one we wanted |
15:44.51 | Technobliterator | to me, it's just easier than being optimistic and preparing for the best then being massively let down and having your plans ruined |
15:45.04 | Technobliterator | and apparently, given how the rate of the pound currency has fallen, economists agree with us |
15:45.19 | Cyrannian | It's not going to be good for Northern Ireland if the UK leaves, with border controls being reinstated |
15:45.33 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: Do you have your bot with you? |
15:45.36 | Monet | Or what about adapting to whatever the majority decides. |
15:45.47 | Technobliterator | Yeah, problem is, I've struggled to get that thing you wanted to work |
15:45.49 | Technobliterator | sorry about that |
15:45.59 | OluapPlayer | useless dumba |
15:46.08 | Technobliterator | I would've done it already |
15:46.10 | Technobliterator | but I've been busy |
15:46.11 | Monet | If we leave, no point omplaining because it's what the peopel wanted. |
15:46.16 | Technobliterator | promise you it'll be done by the end of today |
15:46.17 | Monet | complaining* |
15:46.33 | Monet | You can, but what will complaining because your side lost achieve? |
15:46.37 | Technobliterator | Monet, I don't disagree, but that doesn't mean people have to like said outcome, no? |
15:46.44 | Monet | Because if Remain win, they'll bitch and moan. |
15:46.50 | Monet | Leav'll* |
15:46.59 | Technobliterator | I confess I don't really see what your point is |
15:47.05 | Hachiman | Monet: Because then I get the satisfaction of telling the Leavers to go fuck themselves once their decision ends up fucking them in the ass |
15:47.11 | Hachiman | No wait |
15:47.15 | Hachiman | Yea |
15:47.17 | Hachiman | Leavers |
15:47.41 | Technobliterator | I mean, there's already some strong evidence that Leave will be economically damaging |
15:48.11 | Hachiman | It won't matter to the majority of Leavers though, aka old people, because they'll likely be fucking dead by the time they see the extent of the damage they have caused |
15:48.33 | Hachiman | These kinds of things are specifically tailored towards old people because it is somewhat common knowledge that younger people vote less |
15:48.51 | Monet | Not liking the outcome is fine, you have the right to do that. My concern is that it becomes complaining about peopel disagreeing with you. |
15:49.05 | Technobliterator | yeah, that's fair |
15:49.20 | Technobliterator | But I don't intend to whine when it happens |
15:49.30 | Technobliterator | I just do not expect to be happy about it |
15:49.42 | Hachiman | inb4 Monet is a Leaver |
15:50.04 | Monet | I'm more on the fence. |
15:50.05 | DrodoEmpire | I'm definitely leaning more in to that camp. :p |
15:50.25 | Hachiman | You're not even a part of the EU |
15:50.32 | Technobliterator | I despise the European Union |
15:50.37 | DrodoEmpire | I know- Can I not have an opinion? |
15:50.42 | Technobliterator | But I think Leaving would be a monumentally bad decision |
15:50.45 | Hachiman | You've got nothing to worry about other than Trump hur |
15:50.59 | Hachiman | I despise the European Union, but I despise British politicians more |
15:51.00 | DrodoEmpire | Well, not true because countries don't exist in a bubble |
15:51.02 | Hachiman | And Saudi Arabians |
15:51.04 | Technobliterator | Indeed |
15:51.05 | Hachiman | Fuck those guys |
15:51.13 | Technobliterator | I will say this though |
15:51.18 | Monet | The EU has problems, its corrupt and it has its hinderances. But I prefer to act if I don't like something and leaving is basically going "screw you guys, I'm goin' home!" |
15:51.21 | Technobliterator | my opinion of David Cameron has changed quite a bit |
15:51.32 | Hachiman | Mine hasn't |
15:51.37 | DrodoEmpire | I mean I'd support remain if I thought it possible to reform the EU from the inside, but there's no way that'll happen |
15:51.52 | Technobliterator | I still dislike the man, I don't think he held this referendum for any reasons other than to appease people in his own party |
15:51.53 | Hachiman | He's still an idiotic pig-fucking cunt-faced twat |
15:51.55 | DrodoEmpire | I think its best for the UK to, in the long run at the *very least*, to leave |
15:52.04 | Hachiman | It's just he's a little smarter than his compatriots |
15:52.11 | Technobliterator | But at least the campaign he's running has been much cleaner than we normally see from him |
15:52.23 | Technobliterator | ie no stupid identity politics or misleading garbage |
15:52.47 | Technobliterator | also, how people can support Gove after what he did to the education system is just completely beyond me |
15:53.07 | Hachiman | Because the people who are voting for Gove are old people who do not need the education system anymore? |
15:53.19 | Technobliterator | yeah, I suspect that is the case |
15:53.36 | Technobliterator | DrodoEmpire, this is a fair opinion, and is one that probably a lot of Leavers share |
15:53.47 | Monet | Democracy has become all about the short ter mthese days. |
15:53.53 | Technobliterator | But I do not think that it's worth the short term crash we'll likely get |
15:53.59 | Hachiman | I fucking hate old people; they're bigoted and racist, they stink like shit, and they have no right to be walking around when they already look like a corpse |
15:54.05 | DrodoEmpire | I think an economic slump in the short term is inevitable, but the British are resilient enough |
15:54.10 | Technobliterator | hey, not all old people |
15:54.13 | Technobliterator | I mean |
15:54.16 | Technobliterator | #notalloldpeople |
15:54.22 | Technobliterator | is that a hashtag? |
15:54.26 | DrodoEmpire | Right, Hachi, that's really really really dumb |
15:54.28 | Technobliterator | like, #notallmen ? |
15:54.47 | Technobliterator | yeah, Drodo, I get that |
15:55.08 | Technobliterator | It's basically whether the crash is worth sticking it to the guys who are really doing an awful job |
15:55.11 | DrodoEmpire | Either way I don't completely buy the economic arguments from either side |
15:55.15 | Hachiman | It's also a joke, I acknowledge that there are pleasant old people hur |
15:55.25 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh. >.< Sorry |
15:55.33 | Hachiman | It's just I know a lot of them that also deserve to not still be around anymore yet they are |
15:55.37 | Hachiman | Fucking zombies |
15:55.42 | Monet | I wonder these days if anything like the Marshall Plan or the New Deal is possible to pull off these days. |
15:55.45 | Technobliterator | Well, you don't have to buy the economic arguments to acknowledge the massive drop in value of the pound currency :P |
15:56.10 | DrodoEmpire | That happens with any big event, so while concerning it isn't surprising |
15:56.22 | DrodoEmpire | I doubt it'll be permanent |
15:56.27 | Technobliterator | To be perfectly honest, I think the best thing we could do is get rid of First Past the Post and maybe replace it with Single Transferable Vote. Two-party politics is just cancer. |
15:56.36 | DrodoEmpire | I agree |
15:56.57 | Technobliterator | The Conservatives and the Labour Party wouldn't be such trash if they actually had to compete for votes with more than just one other party, if you ask me |
15:57.38 | Hachiman | >implying people vote Green or Lib Dems anymore |
15:57.56 | Technobliterator | My family always voted Green |
15:58.06 | Technobliterator | but Lib Dems kind of self destructed |
15:58.15 | Hachiman | What even happened to the Lib Dems |
15:58.24 | Monet | They're clawing back though this referendum |
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15:58.35 | Needle-Blaggy | -SCREECHES- |
15:58.39 | Hachiman | No |
15:58.39 | Cyrannian | The fact that the Lib Dems received fewer seats than the SNP despite gaining a million more votes was bizarre |
15:58.48 | Technobliterator | Indeed |
15:58.54 | Technobliterator | This is why I think Single Transferable Vote is needed |
15:58.57 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
15:59.03 | Technobliterator | proportional representation would be so much better |
16:00.31 | Technobliterator | however, I don't think it's as bad as the American system with an electoral college |
16:00.40 | Cyrannian | bbl work |
16:00.41 | Needle-Blaggy | Hi everyone. How've things bone |
16:00.46 | Needle-Blaggy | gone* |
16:00.52 | Technobliterator | nice SCOTUS deciding the president |
16:00.54 | Hachiman | It is somewhat scary to think that the BNP is more popular than the Lib Dems # |
16:00.54 | DrodoEmpire | Good. You? |
16:01.00 | Needle-Blaggy | Good here |
16:01.01 | Technobliterator | ugh, yeah |
16:01.18 | Monet | Well now we're stuck with an SNP-dominated Scotland. THansk protest voters! |
16:01.20 | DrodoEmpire | New to the wiki? |
16:01.24 | Needle-Blaggy | BNP are nationalist, right? Or am I wrong |
16:01.27 | Needle-Blaggy | Nope |
16:01.28 | Hachiman | They are |
16:01.46 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
16:01.46 | Needle-Blaggy | (actually Needles_10 from way long ago but I think I registered it and forgot the pass) |
16:02.16 | Hachiman | Monet: I wouldn't blame Scotland for wanting to have another go at independence again to rejoin the EU if this Brexit thing goes tits up |
16:02.18 | Technobliterator | SNP are already proving to have been a pretty bad vote for them given how they've basically lost a lot of respect they had in Scotland |
16:02.20 | Monet | We in Britain like ot call them the British Nazi Party. |
16:02.47 | Needle-Blaggy | Yeah, I figure you would. Nationalism never ends well. |
16:02.59 | Technobliterator | I totally do not blame them for being unhappy with the governments we've had basically since Blair |
16:03.02 | Imperios | Wait |
16:03.09 | Technobliterator | fucking Blair |
16:03.18 | Imperios | There were Scottish elections recently? |
16:03.30 | Needle-Blaggy | This is why I'm worried about a Trump presidency here in the States. Shit. Will not. Go down. Smoothly. |
16:03.30 | Technobliterator | they were at the same time as everyone else |
16:03.34 | Needle-Blaggy | Ever. Again. |
16:03.37 | Wormy_ | DrodoEmpire: Have you seen that political rant vid I linked? |
16:03.48 | Wormy_ | Hello Needles |
16:03.49 | Technobliterator | sadly, I expect Trump to actually win |
16:04.16 | DrodoEmpire | No, I haven't Wormy |
16:04.32 | Needle-Blaggy | AMERICA: Land Of The Piss-Poor Decision Makers and Home Of The Imbeciles Who Want To Do Nothing But Argue All The Time |
16:04.37 | Wormy_ | Drodo, Techno: I think you should both see this, takes the piss out of both ca,mps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPWNh28AzRc |
16:04.41 | Technobliterator | Yup |
16:04.53 | Technobliterator | your GOP is awful |
16:05.07 | Needle-Blaggy | This is why I wanna start a micronation called "Asylia". Name derived from "asylum". |
16:05.10 | Technobliterator | I wonder if they'll survive past 2016 or a few more years |
16:05.17 | Technobliterator | or if all their votes will go to the Libertarians instead |
16:05.28 | Needle-Blaggy | <PROTECTED> |
16:05.30 | Technobliterator | Wormy_, seen this :p |
16:05.41 | Technobliterator | haha |
16:05.42 | Needle-Blaggy | :/ |
16:05.44 | Technobliterator | well |
16:05.52 | Needle-Blaggy | It'll prolly still BE here |
16:05.58 | Technobliterator | President Clinton: America sold out to the biggest donator to the Clinton Foundation |
16:06.07 | Technobliterator | President Trump: America destroyed by nuclear war |
16:06.09 | Technobliterator | Take your pick! |
16:06.15 | DrodoEmpire | And people say Trump's sensationalist? :p America'll survive a Trump presidency. He'll do some shit and then get blocked by COngress |
16:06.25 | Needle-Blaggy | DrodoEmpire: uhm |
16:06.29 | DrodoEmpire | Honestly he'll probably be a do-nothing president |
16:06.30 | Technobliterator | we're being hyperbolic, Drodo |
16:06.31 | Needle-Blaggy | The GOP controlls congress |
16:06.37 | Hachiman | America will survive; it will be full of more holes than a school or bar in Orlando but it will survive |
16:06.42 | Technobliterator | or at least |
16:06.46 | Technobliterator | I'm being hyperbolic |
16:06.46 | DrodoEmpire | And they don't like Trump. |
16:06.52 | Needle-Blaggy | some of them don't |
16:06.59 | Technobliterator | Needle-Blaggy, I find your reasoning flawed |
16:07.14 | Needle-Blaggy | Technobliterator: Just might be, I admit that. |
16:07.17 | Technobliterator | Congress usually goes to whichever party does not currently control the Presidency |
16:07.27 | Technobliterator | Or it has been that way since Bill Clinton anyway |
16:07.39 | Needle-Blaggy | Ehh, hasn't always been the case |
16:07.41 | Needle-Blaggy | Yeah |
16:08.07 | Technobliterator | Of course, Democrats hadn't been re-elected since FDR before Bill Clinton |
16:08.26 | Needle-Blaggy | I expect the GOP Voters to replace the old guard with Hyperconservative jagoffs like Trump |
16:08.37 | Technobliterator | Or just move to the Libertarian party |
16:08.42 | Technobliterator | which I think is more likely |
16:08.55 | Needle-Blaggy | I'd rather live in a different country where this ISN'T a problem |
16:09.19 | Needle-Blaggy | Sadly, I don't think there are many like that |
16:09.21 | Needle-Blaggy | T.T |
16:09.24 | Technobliterator | meanwhile, with President Clinton, your military does the bidding of whoever donated the highest amount to the Clinton Foundation \o/ |
16:09.35 | Needle-Blaggy | olol |
16:09.40 | Needle-Blaggy | l1 |
16:09.50 | Needle-Blaggy | I just realized, l and 1 look nearly identical |
16:09.59 | Needle-Blaggy | typewriter vestiges, anyone? |
16:10.00 | Technobliterator | suddenly, the US military becomes a mercenary group |
16:10.12 | Needle-Blaggy | LAWL |
16:11.10 | Technobliterator | Every country outside the Middle East will survive a Hillary Clinton presidency |
16:11.20 | Technobliterator | as long as they give $400,000 speaking fees |
16:11.23 | Needle-Blaggy | So...anything new occur in the old Fictional 'Verse |
16:11.34 | DrodoEmpire | Lots |
16:11.39 | Needle-Blaggy | Well dam |
16:11.57 | Needle-Blaggy | I don't even remember when I was last here |
16:11.59 | DrodoEmpire | Like... A *lot*. >.< Quite a bit really |
16:13.21 | Technobliterator | guys, stop telling me to settle for Umbridge so that we don't get Voldemort |
16:13.26 | Technobliterator | #DumbledoreorBust |
16:13.50 | Hachiman | hur |
16:14.57 | Needle-Blaggy | dur |
16:15.37 | Hachiman | Who knows, maybe Trump will prove to be Snape |
16:15.48 | Hachiman | Unlikely, but who knows |
16:17.07 | Needle-Blaggy | NNNnnnnnah, unlikely |
16:17.17 | Technobliterator | or maybe the Dementors will still find Umbridge guilty |
16:17.23 | Needle-Blaggy | No-one is a match for the late Alan Rickman |
16:17.36 | Technobliterator | assuming that wasn't part of the vast Death Eater conspiracy |
16:21.49 | Needle-Blaggy | De- |
16:21.51 | Needle-Blaggy | uhm ok |
16:22.17 | Needle-Blaggy | Can someone PLEASE explain what's happened thus far since I was last here, whenever, in the fic-verse? |
16:22.24 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: Have you looked into getting Overpriced on Linux? |
16:22.34 | Technobliterator | Overpriced? |
16:22.37 | Hachiman | Overwatch |
16:22.40 | Technobliterator | oh |
16:22.41 | Technobliterator | lmao |
16:22.44 | Technobliterator | nice name |
16:22.45 | Technobliterator | I have not |
16:23.04 | Technobliterator | If I did get it, I would get it for PS4, probably |
16:23.53 | Needle-Blaggy | PFFT |
16:24.57 | Needle-Blaggy | I preordered Overwatch (Origins Edition) via Gamestop |
16:25.00 | Needle-Blaggy | didn't get it |
16:25.02 | Needle-Blaggy | Y |
16:25.44 | Technobliterator | I heard hte game was great, but doesn't justify its price at all |
16:25.48 | Hachiman | I would like to think that Blizzard was being ballsy when they released Overwatch for around $70 despite it being just exclusively PvP with no singleplayer campaign but considering this is Blizzard |
16:26.04 | Technobliterator | It's a full price game |
16:26.09 | Technobliterator | Which is $60 |
16:26.12 | Hachiman | Ah |
16:26.18 | Technobliterator | Their reasoning, if you ask me, was extremely stupid |
16:26.30 | Hachiman | What was their reasoning? |
16:26.42 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah it really seems like you're just buying the company's name :p |
16:26.52 | DrodoEmpire | *Nobody* would accept that price from a smaller studio |
16:27.03 | Technobliterator | They stated they did it because they did it instead of doing an F2P option because they didn't want any of the heroes to be locked behind a paywall |
16:27.05 | Technobliterator | like dude |
16:27.13 | Technobliterator | Dota 2 doesn't lock a single hero behind a paywall |
16:27.18 | Technobliterator | not every F2P game has to be League |
16:27.25 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
16:27.28 | DrodoEmpire | But yeah |
16:27.40 | Monet | But Overwatch palys like TF2 |
16:27.42 | Monet | not Dota |
16:27.45 | Technobliterator | they could've very easily locked cosmetics behind a paywall instead |
16:27.49 | DrodoEmpire | Its a similar principle I guess |
16:27.51 | Hachiman | TF2 wasn't $60 before it was F2P |
16:27.55 | Technobliterator | Okay, and TF2 doesn't lock a single character behind a paywall either? |
16:27.55 | Monet | Can you imagine locking Sniper behind a paywall? |
16:28.03 | Monet | HAchiman: Inflation |
16:28.05 | Technobliterator | It has cosmetics being locked behind a paywall instead |
16:28.14 | Technobliterator | ie the same model |
16:28.20 | Hachiman | More like Valve knew what the fuck they were doing |
16:28.24 | Technobliterator | Yes |
16:28.25 | DrodoEmpire | Inflation... Within the space ~10 years? >.< |
16:28.32 | Hachiman | Back when Valve was the good guy |
16:28.41 | Technobliterator | And Valve's Counter-Strike series also isn't full price |
16:28.48 | DrodoEmpire | No, I believe at release TF2 was about the same as CS:GO is now, right? |
16:28.59 | DrodoEmpire | Which is *well below* current AAA game price |
16:29.04 | OluapPlayer | TF2's quality went downhill once it went F2P |
16:29.09 | Monet | In my experience £40 is the average price for a new release by a major studio. |
16:29.13 | OluapPlayer | Or rather, it was already going downhill before |
16:29.16 | Hachiman | nice meme oldfag |
16:29.23 | OluapPlayer | Fuck off |
16:29.37 | Hachiman | So wait |
16:29.40 | Technobliterator | But a release with as little content as Overwatch? |
16:29.41 | Hachiman | Why did it go downhill |
16:29.49 | Monet | Doom costs £40 on PS4 |
16:29.49 | Technobliterator | It doesn't have any singleplayer campaign |
16:29.55 | Hachiman | It's even more ballsy that there are microtransactions in Overwatch - stuff you *can* pay for rather |
16:29.58 | Technobliterator | has very few game modes |
16:30.03 | Technobliterator | yes |
16:30.04 | OluapPlayer | It begun focusing on cosmetics and microtransactions |
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16:30.14 | Hachiman | Ah |
16:30.15 | The_Randomness | Hello |
16:30.17 | Hachiman | Hi |
16:30.28 | Needle-Blaggy | It's randomness |
16:30.28 | Technobliterator | I agree with what Oluap is saying |
16:30.38 | Needle-Blaggy | #EntropyWins |
16:30.39 | Technobliterator | But just because a game has a price doesn't mean it has to be full price |
16:30.41 | Technobliterator | hi random |
16:30.44 | OluapPlayer | F2P players need to do at lest one microtransaction to have access to cosmetics |
16:31.00 | OluapPlayer | They also have a severely impaired weapon drop system iirc |
16:31.09 | Technobliterator | I was going to say I wonder if Dota 2's community would be so toxic if it had a paywall |
16:31.11 | Technobliterator | but then again |
16:31.17 | OluapPlayer | They get less items than premium users |
16:31.19 | Technobliterator | its community was toxic when there were limited invites |
16:31.21 | Technobliterator | so that'd never happen |
16:31.37 | Monet | Aso neither TF2 or CS:GO use a fresh game engine. |
16:31.39 | Tek0516 | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1466606325-20160622.png |
16:31.44 | Technobliterator | Uh |
16:31.46 | OluapPlayer | Dota 2 had a paywall once, when it was in beta |
16:31.58 | OluapPlayer | It was essentially a buy to play game at the time |
16:31.58 | Technobliterator | That doesn't seem like much of a good defense of Overwatch's price |
16:32.20 | Monet | Game engines like Frostbite are fucking expensive ot devleop. |
16:32.25 | Technobliterator | A fresh game engine does not justify little content |
16:32.33 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
16:32.50 | OluapPlayer | Does Overwatch have little content though? |
16:32.55 | Hachiman | Yes |
16:32.57 | OluapPlayer | As far as I know the game is universally praised |
16:33.03 | Hachiman | ngh brb |
16:33.06 | DrodoEmpire | Empire Total War, for all its problems, had a good amount of playable nations on release and its DLC was cheap and big |
16:33.07 | Technobliterator | Well, it has no single player campaign and has very few modes |
16:33.15 | OluapPlayer | Neither does TF2 |
16:33.16 | DrodoEmpire | Despite it being the first game on Warscap |
16:33.17 | Monet | How many modes |
16:33.19 | DrodoEmpire | *Warscape |
16:33.25 | Technobliterator | The gameplay is universally praised, but the price is not |
16:33.45 | Technobliterator | Yeah, but Oluap, TF2 was never a full price game |
16:34.14 | Technobliterator | And, correct me if I'm wrong, but when it did cost money, it still had microtransactions |
16:34.15 | OluapPlayer | It might have been. I don't know how much it costed back in 2008 |
16:34.18 | OluapPlayer | 2007 even |
16:34.37 | Technobliterator | It wasn't, because you could get it with Orange Box |
16:34.57 | Technobliterator | which itself was a full price collection of smaller games |
16:35.04 | OluapPlayer | Microtransactions were added to TF2 3 years after release |
16:35.16 | Technobliterator | Point is, Overwatch is a fantastic game which completely fails to justify the price tag |
16:35.27 | OluapPlayer | The game went F2P a year after that |
16:35.31 | Monet | Hmm 4 game modes, with three maps each. |
16:35.35 | Technobliterator | People had much the same criticism of Star Wars Battlefront |
16:35.44 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah |
16:36.08 | DrodoEmpire | Let's hope BF1 isn't the same way |
16:36.17 | Technobliterator | I'm not denying though that F2P can be damaging to the game |
16:36.25 | OluapPlayer | I don't know if I agree with that analogy |
16:36.36 | OluapPlayer | If the gameplay is that good then surely it's worth its price |
16:36.49 | Technobliterator | though I'm not sure F2P is the sole reason TF2 went downhill? I think it might also be how Valve works internally |
16:36.57 | Technobliterator | with the whole, developers being able to choose what to work on whenever |
16:36.58 | OluapPlayer | Microtransactions |
16:37.20 | Technobliterator | I think devs at Valve just stopped working on TF2 |
16:37.25 | Technobliterator | and thus it went downhill |
16:37.36 | OluapPlayer | They don't, TF2 always has a team in it |
16:37.46 | OluapPlayer | But this team constantly decreases in size or changes altogether |
16:37.48 | Technobliterator | well, not completely |
16:37.55 | Technobliterator | but it's a smaller team than before |
16:37.55 | Technobliterator | yeah |
16:38.17 | Technobliterator | was it the game's content that went downhill after TF2 went F2P, or the community as well? |
16:38.42 | OluapPlayer | Both |
16:38.47 | The_Randomness | correlation =/= causation |
16:38.49 | Technobliterator | mhm |
16:38.50 | Needle-Blaggy | Hm |
16:38.58 | OluapPlayer | The introduction of microtransactions led to the game changing from "80s spy movie parody" to "WACKY SANDVICH CLOWN PARTY" |
16:38.59 | Needle-Blaggy | Do you think that a race of spacefaring (albeit obviously smaller than actual/in-film) Godzillas would be in any way plausible for the fic-verse |
16:39.07 | DrodoEmpire | My room smells like industrial cleaner- its wafting through my window |
16:39.08 | DrodoEmpire | Just |
16:39.09 | Technobliterator | Thing is, Overwatch already has microtransactions |
16:39.10 | DrodoEmpire | Why town |
16:39.22 | Technobliterator | It just has microtransactions in addition to a full price |
16:39.37 | The_Randomness | what's your point? |
16:39.41 | Technobliterator | So content-wise, I imagine Overwatch may have the same problem |
16:39.48 | DrodoEmpire | Needle-Blaggy: Perhaps... Though how big? |
16:39.51 | The_Randomness | Honestly this just reeks of "how dare you make me pay for your game" |
16:40.08 | Technobliterator | The_Randomness, I have no qualms with paying for a game, but it doesn't justify full price |
16:40.10 | DrodoEmpire | Civilization requires, as its basis, food production after all |
16:40.16 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah Tech has a point |
16:40.20 | Technobliterator | CS:GO is not full price either |
16:40.27 | Monet | How much do you wantot pay though Techno |
16:40.27 | DrodoEmpire | Overwatch has too little content |
16:40.29 | OluapPlayer | I remember to this day that there used to be a page where Valve instructed modders about the game's artstyle and general theme |
16:40.40 | OluapPlayer | And there was a snip of text along the lines of "no clown suits for the Heavy" |
16:40.45 | Needle-Blaggy | 4 to 9 meters, varying |
16:40.51 | OluapPlayer | Today there are at least 2 clown suits in the game |
16:40.52 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
16:40.55 | The_Randomness | oh gosh |
16:40.57 | DrodoEmpire | So they're pretty big |
16:41.08 | Technobliterator | How much do I want to pay? Like, a CS:GO kind of price? |
16:41.08 | Needle-Blaggy | compared to the 50-118.5 meter range of ACTUAL Godzilla in film, yknow |
16:41.12 | The_Randomness | also, nobody requires you to pay for mtx in games like Overwatch |
16:41.13 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah :p |
16:41.15 | Technobliterator | It just doesn't have the content to justify it |
16:41.27 | Needle-Blaggy | (ranging from his 1954 appearance to his soon-to-come 2016 film) |
16:41.37 | Technobliterator | Again, same criticism as with Star Wars Battlefront 2015 |
16:41.41 | DrodoEmpire | They seem about as big as a Draconis |
16:41.47 | Technobliterator | Game, totally fine, just not enough in it |
16:41.50 | The_Randomness | eh |
16:41.51 | Needle-Blaggy | Guess they'd be |
16:41.54 | Monet | So...£11 |
16:42.04 | Monet | £12* |
16:42.09 | The_Randomness | I don't have a problem with it myself |
16:42.16 | Technobliterator | £11, £15, £20, I'd even be fine with £30 |
16:42.25 | Technobliterator | Yeah, that's fair, given that the game is really good and all |
16:42.25 | DrodoEmpire | Right, so they might be able to actually build a civilization then |
16:43.02 | DrodoEmpire | (The problem being is that, if you're too big, reproduction will be too slow and caloric requirements too great for food production and thus civilization to exist) |
16:43.11 | Technobliterator | My opinion is just that I'm worried about how developers are releasing multiplayer-only games for very high prices and not really including enough additional content |
16:43.14 | Monet | £30-35 I can see as reasonable. Maybe £25. I can't see Overwatch being considered profitable at £15 or less. |
16:43.21 | DrodoEmpire | And if you don't start with civilization, you can't have, eventually, spaceship |
16:43.23 | DrodoEmpire | *s |
16:43.26 | Technobliterator | yeah, I'd find that reasonable |
16:45.32 | Monet | I might have found some link as to where the cost comes from |
16:45.50 | Needle-Blaggy | Exactly why they're about as big as the Draconis |
16:46.00 | Monet | Overwatch was built off the lessons learned from developing Titan |
16:46.01 | DrodoEmpire | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkGwcYbVEAQRNe0.jpg:large |
16:46.06 | Needle-Blaggy | Rather than absolutely massive |
16:46.19 | Monet | Which for Blizzard had become something of a money black hole. |
16:46.38 | DrodoEmpire | Right, as Kicath/Draconis *probably* represent the upper limit of a species actually able to create civilization |
16:46.46 | Needle-Blaggy | Yeah. |
16:47.20 | DrodoEmpire | With that out of the way, I think its possible |
16:47.38 | Monet | So as well as the cost of deeloping Overwatch, Blizzard also had to somehow recuperate what was sunk into Titan. |
16:48.36 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: Mighty No. 5.6 lol |
16:49.01 | Hachiman | Delayed for like a year and is complete and utter dogshit |
16:49.06 | Hachiman | The power of $4mil |
16:49.11 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... :p |
16:49.33 | DrodoEmpire | Though thankfully NMS has only been delayed by a couple months, and the team has been updating regularly |
16:49.42 | OluapPlayer | I have to give it to Mighty No 9. Not often do you see a game release that is considered a virus by most antivirus programs |
16:49.53 | DrodoEmpire | LOL |
16:49.55 | DrodoEmpire | WHAT |
16:50.04 | OluapPlayer | Yep, that's a thing that happened |
16:50.05 | Hachiman | It also bricks your Wii |
16:50.05 | DrodoEmpire | Are you kidding? XD |
16:50.14 | Hachiman | No |
16:50.15 | DrodoEmpire | Jesus H Murphy |
16:50.19 | DrodoEmpire | Link? |
16:50.31 | OluapPlayer | Don't got one with me |
16:50.37 | Monet | But I'm no expert on pricing video games, I just know that they're very costly things to development and developer offices can be like sweatshops especially as the deadline approaches. |
16:50.40 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
16:51.09 | Technobliterator | it's not like Blizzard don't earn plenty of money anyway |
16:51.16 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: http://www.gamnesia.com/news/mighty-no.-9-backers-are-facing-issues-like-bricked-consoles-missing-dlc-co |
16:51.35 | Technobliterator | they should value a game at what it's worth |
16:51.56 | Technobliterator | not try to recoup losses that have already been recouped probably from WoW and Hearthstone anyway |
16:52.32 | Hachiman | There's also a link for it being recognised as a virus, give me a moment |
16:54.09 | Monet | I'm going to back out now because we're approachi na matter I've talked of before. |
16:54.10 | DrodoEmpire | "I had a friend who lost his virginity in year eleven, which would've been *pretty cool*- but he was homeschooled." |
16:55.03 | Needle-Blaggy | Grand Gojiran Imperial Union? |
16:55.26 | Hachiman | Sounds almost racist, not gonna lie |
16:55.31 | Needle-Blaggy | Or should I come up with a smaller name? |
16:55.44 | Needle-Blaggy | Hachiman: the name of the thing? |
16:55.48 | Needle-Blaggy | Or |
16:55.51 | DrodoEmpire | Not racist- It just sounds Imperial Japanese. XD |
16:55.58 | DrodoEmpire | Which could be controversial |
16:56.01 | Needle-Blaggy | Yeah true |
16:56.02 | Monet | We also have comething called 'daikaiju' in the gigaquadrant |
16:56.02 | Hachiman | Yeah |
16:56.03 | DrodoEmpire | But that's it |
16:56.33 | DrodoEmpire | A smaller name might be good, but its alright if you're set in that one |
16:56.37 | Needle-Blaggy | In the case of these Gojirans which I'm planning, I suppose the Daikaiju would be Gojirans who found themselves addicted to radiation |
16:56.50 | DrodoEmpire | Addicted? |
16:57.05 | Hachiman | I kinda do not get why people want to include kaiju so badly |
16:57.18 | Monet | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Daikaiju not quite |
16:57.19 | Needle-Blaggy | well, they're cool |
16:57.20 | Needle-Blaggy | Lol |
16:57.35 | DrodoEmpire | I can't recall ever buying a baggy of weapons-grade uranium behind my local nuclear plant... :p |
16:57.46 | Needle-Blaggy | LOL |
16:57.48 | Needle-Blaggy | Not like THAT |
16:57.51 | DrodoEmpire | The "good shit", as my dealer would tell me if he existed |
16:58.06 | Needle-Blaggy | Radiation, for Gojirans, is healthy in small doses. |
16:58.22 | Hachiman | I don't think that is quite how radiation works |
16:58.31 | DrodoEmpire | Oh I'd take it in small doses too- but it wouldn't be healthy |
16:58.33 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
16:58.39 | Needle-Blaggy | Hachiman: at least not for humans :P |
16:58.50 | DrodoEmpire | Well not for any known form of life |
16:58.53 | DrodoEmpire | But if you're adamant |
16:58.53 | Monet | Hollywood Radiation is closer to magic or pixie dust than actua lradiation. |
16:59.02 | The_Randomness | ^ |
16:59.02 | Hachiman | No no, for like every single living thing on Earth |
16:59.04 | Needle-Blaggy | Monet: fair enough |
16:59.13 | Needle-Blaggy | arent tehre fungi which thrive on radiation |
16:59.23 | DrodoEmpire | We aren't too hard when it comes to Sci-fi though, so maybe...? |
16:59.38 | Monet | The thing is from a scientific perspective, light, microwaves and radio waves are radiation. |
16:59.53 | Needle-Blaggy | Referring, of course, to Gamma Radiation |
17:00.05 | Monet | Which is ionising radiation. |
17:00.24 | Hachiman | I mean, if you want your creatures to essentially be walking tumours |
17:00.26 | Needle-Blaggy | apparently Radiotrophic Fungi use melanin to convert Gamma Radiation into chemical energy |
17:01.45 | Monet | You'll need a planet that's bathed in gamma rays then |
17:02.19 | The_Randomness | And everything will have to put a bunch of energy into making sure that any errors caused by radiation are fixed |
17:02.28 | Monet | As according to Wikipedia the first place radiotropic fungi were found was around the former CHernobyl plant. |
17:02.43 | The_Randomness | The thing is, ionizing radiation is bad_news no matter what |
17:02.45 | Hachiman | Imperios: So, Transformers 5: The Last Knight was announced |
17:03.01 | Imperios | THE DEMON REARS HIS HEAD ONCE AGAIN |
17:03.25 | Imperios | AND MEGAN FOX IS HIS WHORE OF BAY-Y-LON |
17:03.33 | Hachiman | hur |
17:04.00 | DrodoEmpire | http://digital.nls.uk/great-war/assets/img/content/general/pic-fighting-large-2a.jpg - This Uhlan's mustache is upsettingly asymmetrical. |
17:04.06 | Needle-Blaggy | DESTROY H.O.T.M.E.S.S. |
17:04.32 | Hachiman | Is it just me who thought "Dark of the Moon" was both a stupid name and a reference to "Dark Side of the Moon" by Pink Floyd? |
17:04.37 | DrodoEmpire | # c o d e k e e m |
17:05.00 | Hachiman | I mean, "Dark of the Moon" makes no real grammatical sense to me |
17:05.09 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
17:05.28 | Monet | I was more focused on how you had a Leanord Niboycon quoting SPock. |
17:05.37 | Monet | Nimoycon* |
17:06.59 | Needle-Blaggy | Dark of the Moon sounds just STUPID |
17:07.40 | Monet | Not sure if the inclusion of that line was by a goofy scriptwriter or if Nimor requested it out of "this movie's stupid may as well enjoy myself" |
17:07.49 | Monet | Nimoy* |
17:09.03 | Needle-Blaggy | First it's Niboy, now it's Nimor |
17:09.29 | Needle-Blaggy | I love typos |
17:09.51 | Monet | Leonard Nimor the Sub-mariner! |
17:16.04 | Needle-Blaggy | c}: |
17:16.10 | Needle-Blaggy | mustachio |
17:18.33 | Needle-Blaggy | Hm |
17:18.34 | Charles_Murray | DrodoEmpire : Polish cavalry - #1683bestdayofmylife #onlydayofmylife |
17:19.05 | Needle-Blaggy | Gojiran Federation? |
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17:25.09 | OluapPlayer | spo |
17:25.25 | Needle-Blaggy | Hi Xho |
17:25.35 | Xho | <PROTECTED> |
17:25.51 | Needle-Blaggy | what |
17:25.57 | Needle-Blaggy | it's all blank |
17:26.04 | Needle-Blaggy | <PROTECTED> |
17:26.12 | Needle-Blaggy | huh. so you can just send space. |
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17:27.22 | Needle-Blaggy | hello drom |
17:27.27 | drom | So someone offer themselves to be a GM for a tabletop RPG called "Hollow Earth" - I joined. |
17:27.33 | drom | offered even |
17:27.37 | Needle-Blaggy | Wow |
17:27.39 | drom | Hello, Needle-Blaggy. |
17:28.53 | drom | Thinking of this, I wonder when will a heavily sci-fi one will come around the corner. |
17:29.38 | drom | If I am not the one who is hosting it, of course. |
17:29.38 | DrodoEmpire | Charles_Murray: hur |
17:30.52 | drom | DrodoEmpire Charles_Murray Xho Wormy_: http://i.imgur.com/SuT6w79.png |
17:30.56 | drom | Also, Imperios. |
17:31.46 | Xho | murica |
17:32.27 | drom | Besides. Xho: http://i.imgur.com/md01Fy1.png |
17:33.38 | Imperios | drom: But America cannot melt countries |
17:33.41 | Imperios | Climate change does not exist |
17:34.09 | drom | Imperios: http://i.imgur.com/nlzu3gP.png |
17:37.16 | Xho | "XAXAXAXAXA" |
17:37.33 | Needle-Blaggy | XAXA |
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17:38.41 | Hellrock | Hello everyone. |
17:39.06 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
17:40.30 | Xho | Drom: very accurate |
17:40.34 | Needle-Blaggy | "IT WAS ROSJA, NO DOUBT!" |
17:40.42 | Needle-Blaggy | WITHOUT* |
17:40.45 | Needle-Blaggy | FUCK misquote |
17:44.20 | Needle-Blaggy | oh that was good read |
17:52.20 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/2JojN3l |
17:56.40 | Wormy_ | How do cats like fish when they don't like water? |
17:56.40 | Needle-Blaggy | HA Wormy_ |
17:56.46 | Wormy_ | Glitch in the Matrix much |
17:56.51 | Hachiman | drom: What's Hollow Earth like? |
17:56.54 | Needle-Blaggy | Wormy_: not really>...? |
17:57.33 | Wormy_ | Cats love fish, but they don't like going in water unless they are big cats |
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17:58.09 | DrodoEmpire | I think hatred of water is more a house cat thing |
17:58.11 | DrodoEmpire | And only some |
17:58.42 | Monet | My family cat loved standing under a dipping tap. |
17:58.49 | Wormy_ | Its always housecats that drag carp from the neighboring garden pond |
17:58.58 | Xho | Cats are weird |
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17:59.03 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
17:59.23 | Hachiman | Hi Tree, Oluap |
18:00.08 | Wormy_ | How do whales drink, is another one |
18:00.45 | DrodoEmpire | How come you can't sneeze and piss at the same time |
18:00.46 | DrodoEmpire | >.> |
18:00.54 | Treebeard | Hello Hachi |
18:01.12 | Wormy_ | (I know that they get it through digestion, I'm just shitpoisting at this point) |
18:01.32 | Wormy_ | Drodo: You can if you have a weak bladder hur |
18:01.50 | DrodoEmpire | Ah fair enough |
18:02.52 | Hachiman | Wait |
18:03.01 | Hachiman | You can't sneeze and piss at the same time? |
18:03.07 | Hachiman | I need to test this |
18:05.37 | Wormy_ | Okay, get yourself really bursting, and then pour pepper in your nose |
18:05.52 | Wormy_ | LA Beast style |
18:06.19 | Xho | OluapPlayer Hachiman: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13516589_1231400200217188_392841599135230182_n.jpg?oh=facc8d4c3043d33d090dfe7afd904365&oe=57FF7A20 |
18:06.38 | Wormy_ | If you injure yourself, do not hold me accountable. |
18:06.49 | OluapPlayer | hur |
18:06.54 | Hachiman | Xho: Norman Reedus and the Funky Fetus |
18:08.03 | Wormy_ | bbl cooking dinner |
18:16.35 | Xho | "Music You Need to Hear" "The Life of Pablo" |
18:16.38 | Xho | itunes pls |
18:19.58 | OluapPlayer | vote for pablo |
18:20.26 | Xho | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOH |
18:26.18 | Xho | Hachiman: Well it's official, gonna see Animals As Leaders on the 18th July |
18:26.28 | Hachiman | Fuckin noice |
18:26.43 | OluapPlayer | Animals As Leaders |
18:26.48 | OluapPlayer | dats jus the fantasyverse |
18:27.15 | Xho | aye |
18:27.22 | OluapPlayer | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CljoKUVWAAEhh3b.jpg #thuglife |
18:27.38 | Xho | dafuq |
18:28.49 | DrodoEmpire | V/\? |
18:30.33 | Hachiman | V/\ |
18:30.55 | DrodoEmpire | yus |
18:32.03 | Xho | |> |
18:32.37 | OluapPlayer | wat goin on |
18:32.41 | Charles_Murray | Apparently it takes two birds to turn on a cigarette. Noted. |
18:33.11 | Hachiman | V/\ = Vape Naysh |
18:33.16 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13406828_1734774710138772_336729748048312781_n.jpg?oh=e52452af7e893987ced71f614bf4f0f9&oe=57C710E6 Good lord what |
18:33.33 | Hachiman | What the fuck |
18:34.05 | Monet | Not the Strangest ancient engraving I've ever seen |
18:34.32 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13310335_1739746096301174_292497487900278172_n.jpg?oh=1ddce037d5fe275f42ca1969343ab74b&oe=5805A8BD here comes dat 19th dynasty |
18:34.57 | DrodoEmpire | here come dat cancerous meme |
18:34.58 | DrodoEmpire | >.> |
18:35.58 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
18:36.07 | Monet | A Roman Brothel |
18:39.56 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11993281_1632993456983565_7648973337450268406_n.jpg?oh=f640f00d5d4cce4b7fff151bc27ebf5e&oe=57FA5829 |
18:41.19 | DrodoEmpire | ayy lmao |
18:42.35 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11041640_1609558569327054_7980102762057064990_n.jpg?oh=2458222755b8ec9d4fa80f8889c47297&oe=580FCE97 Still the best |
18:45.51 | Xho | Funny because Freud believed that Moses originally believed in Aten and Judaism stemmed from Akhenaten |
18:46.22 | Xho | Likeliness of that being true is incredibly low |
18:50.04 | Xho | Hachiman: You think the Sohet/Khaepsha have similar naming conventions to the Egyptians |
18:50.16 | Hachiman | That being |
18:50.36 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/13522003_1605843273039310_1391443205468602007_n.png?oh=20271e0aba6ea7d88378829beb0d1bcc&oe=57FBEC07 |
18:50.51 | Technobliterator | hahaha yeah |
18:50.53 | Technobliterator | I heard that one |
18:51.02 | Xho | Hachiman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_royal_titulary |
18:51.53 | Hachiman | Hm, interesting |
18:53.03 | Xho | "Horus Mighty Bull, Arising in Thebes, He of the Two Ladies, Enduring in kingship like Re in heaven, Horus of Gold Powerful of strength, Sacred of appearance, He of the Sedge and the Bee, Enduring of form is Re, Son of Ra, Thutmose, beautiful of forms" |
18:53.07 | Xho | Egyptians went full pelt on it |
18:53.18 | Charles_Murray | *BOINK* https://i.redd.it/qn64ypzxdu4x.gif |
18:55.15 | drom | Hachiman: We've not gotten started with it yet |
18:55.27 | drom | But it is basically 1930's, but with dinosaurs |
18:55.30 | drom | So... |
18:55.45 | drom | Indiana Jones with Dinosaurs and Disney's Atlantis |
18:56.04 | Xho | Hachiman OluapPlayer Imperios: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baka_(prince) |
18:56.18 | OluapPlayer | step the fuck up senpai |
18:56.50 | drom | Charles_Murray: This is why impact bombs are better |
18:57.22 | Xho | u meen step the fuck up sË-RË |
18:57.37 | Charles_Murray | I think that was an impact bomb |
19:04.28 | Imperios | Xho: Funny because the Japanese refer to their loved ones as "brothers" and sisters" |
19:05.09 | Xho | do dey nao |
19:06.21 | Imperios | Wait I thought that was a shared Korean-Japanese thing |
19:07.24 | Xho | Not something I'm aware of |
19:09.06 | Imperios | "onii-sama" |
19:09.10 | Imperios | That's what I was referring to |
19:09.15 | Imperios | Is that like "oppa"? |
19:09.33 | Xho | I've never really heard it being used coloquially |
19:11.51 | Xho | Looking on the internet, it's Yakuza terminology |
19:12.56 | Monet | Feels wierd for it to be this light at 8pm |
19:13.30 | Monet | The shops are closed, only resturaunts are open (some) but I could sit outside and watch the clouds. |
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19:14.09 | Cyrannian | Hello |
19:14.16 | Monet | Hello |
19:14.21 | Treebeard | Hello |
19:14.25 | Monet | Feel like sowrking on stuff... |
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19:14.41 | Treebeard | Hello |
19:15.14 | dino82_ | hi |
19:15.17 | Cyrannian | Hello dino! |
19:15.33 | Monet | hello |
19:16.08 | Cyrannian | Monet: I'm free if you want to work on one of our stories from a while back |
19:16.35 | Monet | I have an idea on what if Dino is also available. |
19:23.34 | Imperios | Monet: Just go to Saint-Petersburg |
19:23.56 | Imperios | THe sun never sets on the last remnant of the Russian Empire |
19:25.21 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13465933_494289974104438_234016144635246348_n.png?oh=98f264dfc7e862dfc2d0c0b3c829af8a&oe=57F2D8CA |
19:26.31 | Xho | Hachiman: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13434681_1730370857219698_1306445169060097024_n.jpg?oh=81a2b88d5f0dff63d4fc1971fa942d53&oe=57F6BEBF 10/10 |
19:26.40 | Hachiman | hur |
19:32.07 | OluapPlayer | eyebrow butt |
19:41.03 | DrodoEmpire | test |
19:43.37 | Hachiman | Question; is it pronounced "nekko" or "neeko" |
19:46.39 | dino82_ | :d |
20:12.27 | OluapPlayer | u will never know |
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20:14.07 | The_Randomness | Hello |
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20:18.01 | Hachiman | Fuck |
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21:05.14 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
21:07.29 | Xho | Hi |
21:28.03 | Xho | Hachiman: nekko u dunce |
21:28.14 | Hachiman | rite |
21:30.05 | Xho | Seriously what is Death Stranding |
21:32.50 | Hachiman | A funky fetus |
21:34.37 | Hachiman | In seriousness, it's Kojima's new game |
21:34.46 | Hachiman | No actual gameplay or plot details have been revealed yet |
21:34.50 | Wormy_ | back |
21:34.56 | Hachiman | Although the trailer is apparently representative of the game |
21:36.53 | Xho | So |
21:36.55 | Xho | Nuts |
21:37.09 | Wormy_ | https://twitter.com/PessimistsArc/status/745633401324068864 |
21:37.46 | Xho | Those were the days |
21:37.55 | Xho | Not that I remember most of it |
21:38.20 | Wormy_ | I remember the age of floppy discs, dial up internet and chunky monitors |
21:38.34 | Xho | I remember dial up vaguely |
21:39.09 | Cyrannian | Same, I remember the noise more than anything |
21:39.09 | Xho | I remember my sister setting up a computer back when this room was her bedroom |
21:39.16 | Xho | Dunno how long ago that was now |
21:39.21 | Xho | Must be nearly 18 years ago |
21:40.05 | Xho | I never actually used the internet until 2006 |
21:41.23 | Wormy_ | I used to use the internet as a child, but only to look at deep marine lifeforms |
21:41.33 | Wormy_ | Which I was obsessed with |
21:41.44 | Wormy_ | Also played old Maxis games like SimLife |
21:41.55 | Wormy_ | I remermber flash games too |
21:41.57 | Cyrannian | I was obsessed with paint |
21:42.11 | Xho | The Sims was the first video game I ever played |
21:42.20 | Xho | To memory anyway |
21:42.22 | dino82_ | Really? |
21:42.24 | Cyrannian | Though I remember playing old Maxis games like SimPark and SimCopter |
21:42.26 | dino82_ | Nice! |
21:42.40 | Wormy_ | I wish Spore was more like SimEarth or SimLife |
21:42.41 | Xho | Spyro may have come before it |
21:42.46 | dino82_ | My first game was either the first Pokemon game on the Gameboy or Tomb Raider at Windows 94, or MDK, one of the three |
21:42.57 | Wormy_ | The depth of those games were huge, they just look crap |
21:43.06 | Xho | SimEarth |
21:43.07 | Xho | wow |
21:43.08 | Xho | dat game |
21:43.29 | Xho | I always had that game on the fastest speed and always lamented how the world ended after 10 billion years |
21:43.36 | Xho | Never understood why until about 15 years later |
21:43.57 | dino82_ | MDK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LWrjeOHgjY |
21:44.28 | Wormy_ | https://videogamesoftheoppressed.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/simlife.png |
21:44.42 | Xho | I vaguely remember my sister playing Silent Hill 1 when it came out, luckily I was not subject to its horror |
21:44.44 | Wormy_ | There is something prophetic about Spore in that |
21:45.05 | Hachiman | >VAPING TESTICLE SWEAT: VOMIT ALERT |
21:45.15 | Hachiman | State of YouTube these days |
21:45.16 | Xho | Except I remember one small scene where there was probably a 10ft long smear of blood |
21:45.36 | Xho | Hachiman: Well Franku needs to do the first three and he's embodied it |
21:45.44 | Wormy_ | I became subject to the horrors of Animatric at a young age |
21:45.55 | Wormy_ | Quite frankly couldn't sleep |
21:46.39 | Xho | Not quite sure what the scariest game I've ever played |
21:46.41 | Xho | is |
21:48.34 | Xho | The only game that makes me jump nowadays is the Fallout games thanks to the severe lack of warning of NPCs coming to kill you |
21:48.41 | Wormy_ | lol |
21:49.02 | Monet | Xho: If I can find it, PC Gamer tied to dissect the meaning of Death Stranding's trailer |
21:49.05 | Xho | I had a bit of a jump the other day when I failed to see a Glowing Yao Guai right next to me |
21:49.13 | Wormy_ | Being cornered by three Yao Guis made me scream like a girl, I didn't even know they were in the game |
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21:49.27 | Xho | And came across a Charred Feral Ghoul as well, shit's serious |
21:49.52 | Wormy_ | I found Manhunt a bit gross, tbh |
21:49.59 | Xho | Their base level is 62 and I'm level 51 |
21:50.05 | Hachiman | Monet: Send me that shit |
21:50.22 | Cyrannian | I used to be terrified of the butler in that one Lara Croft game in the mansion |
21:50.36 | Wormy_ | Also I played a game a bit like Silent Hill but where I was going through an old school, killing demonic teddies and stuff. PS2 era |
21:50.43 | Monet | Xho: Hachiman: http://www.pcgamer.com/kojima-a-baby-and-william-blake-an-attempt-to-analyze-death-stranding/ |
21:51.12 | Monet | Cyrannian: He was creepy. But I was one of those who liked locking him in the walk-in fridge. |
21:51.50 | Wormy_ | Xho: Feral Ghouls in F4 seem tobe super-sesitive |
21:52.14 | Wormy_ | They start chasing even when I'm just being detected |
21:52.17 | Monet | Hearing him panic as Lara leaps over him and then watching his arms and tea-tray clip though the door...good times. |
21:52.39 | Wormy_ | Cyrannian: Have you played any of the Fallout games yet? |
21:53.01 | Cyrannian | Indeed, I got Fallout 4 at Christmas, which came with a free copy of F3 |
21:53.01 | Xho | Seems like it |
21:53.13 | Xho | Cyrannian: Oh god no not the butler |
21:53.26 | Wormy_ | How are you finding it? |
21:54.03 | Monet | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxT8ie751rs |
21:56.46 | Cyrannian | Wormy_: I find it tough to get into, which is strange because I still regularly play Skyrim |
21:57.16 | Xho | Fallout's always been tougher than Elder Scrolls |
21:57.55 | Monet | I got stabbed in the back by a GUnner with a knife yesterday. |
21:57.58 | Wormy_ | I feel the gameplay isn't that special but the world and its silliness draws me into it |
21:58.35 | Wormy_ | Being chased by a flaming robot that tried to give me coffee was hilarious |
21:58.50 | Wormy_ | and blew up in the process |
22:00.06 | Cyrannian | Indeed, the amount of times I randomly explode while exploring... |
22:00.55 | Monet | Watch out for mines |
22:01.02 | Monet | Also be careful i nurban firefights |
22:01.13 | AdmiralPanda | Fallout 4 made me very very happy for exactly one reason: Power Armour |
22:01.23 | Monet | Everyone in 2050s America decided it would be a great idea to install nuclear reactors i ntheir cars. |
22:01.25 | AdmiralPanda | but I still go back to NV for the story and roleplaying |
22:02.10 | AdmiralPanda | Monet: To be fair, their nuclear tech was a lot better than ours, and it's not like you need to put new fuel in on a regular basis, just coolant |
22:02.29 | Monet | Still |
22:02.39 | AdmiralPanda | I squeed a little when I realised that the fuel pumps are for coolant, thought that was a really nice touch |
22:02.44 | Cyrannian | I do love the art style of course |
22:03.08 | Wormy_ | !950's were going that way, you could get radioactive material in chemistry sets for children. |
22:03.11 | AdmiralPanda | ^ especially the plasma rifle, I love the retro sci-fi look about it |
22:03.13 | Wormy_ | 1950's |
22:03.30 | Monet | Still, just a coupel of shots did this http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/258210114350049303/8A81805C887595414040779A4AF7E926076F3B32/ |
22:03.30 | Cyrannian | I play as a lady because Jack from Mass Effect |
22:03.31 | AdmiralPanda | my plasma sniper might not be the best weapon but god do I love having it on my wall |
22:03.58 | AdmiralPanda | I've always played as a lady because A) Fallout 1 pregen character and B) Fallout NV's lesbian perk dialogue |
22:04.13 | Monet | I'm not complining because the chain reaction was awesome to watch. |
22:04.17 | AdmiralPanda | which is why I was sad that they force you to be in a married relationship in 4, like bitch I wanna be a lesbian |
22:04.22 | Wormy_ | Everything feels suped up in F4 compared to 3. Blooming Blote flies actually hurt |
22:04.46 | AdmiralPanda | Wormy_: That's cos they changed how the damage system works more than anything else |
22:05.02 | Wormy_ | yeah |
22:05.16 | AdmiralPanda | the switch from damage threshold to damage resistance as the primary means of protection |
22:05.29 | AdmiralPanda | DT is a really interesting system from a mechanical standpoint; I love it |
22:06.08 | AdmiralPanda | overall though, tbh I mostly now just play F4 for sniping, power armour and my settlement empire when my ego needs a stroke; everything else I go back to NV |
22:06.33 | AdmiralPanda | mysterious magnum best gun ever, especially in a western-styled world |
22:07.46 | Wormy_ | There is one really silly thing I don't like about F4, and that is that you can't put a weapon over your shoulders or in a holdster |
22:07.55 | AdmiralPanda | ^ |
22:08.10 | AdmiralPanda | I got a mod that adds holsters for pistols, but haven't been able to find one for other weapons |
22:08.24 | AdmiralPanda | tbh most of my mods are purely cosmetic, only have three* that modify gameplay |
22:08.28 | AdmiralPanda | might be more but I think it's only 3 |
22:08.32 | AdmiralPanda | oh that reminds me |
22:09.04 | AdmiralPanda | Monet: http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/6443/? this is the mod I was talking about that makes the Minutemen suck less |
22:19.44 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13524349_1231570840200124_1901653449204804877_n.jpg?oh=025c3472df0eca9a522fc702ab525a71&oe=57C3FC70 |
22:21.37 | Cyrannian | aye |
22:22.05 | Cyrannian | I just did that conjuration ritual to get the Daedric armour |
22:26.50 | Monet | I think I might boot up Twitch and stream Fallout 4 |
22:27.52 | AdmiralPanda | def watching that |
22:28.15 | AdmiralPanda | I will endeavour not to constantly talk in your ear about everything you're doing wrong :P |
22:28.45 | Monet | I might not be able ot keep track of the chat |
22:29.17 | AdmiralPanda | I'll steam message you then >:D |
22:29.39 | AdmiralPanda | but seriously I won't, unless it's something pretty significant |
22:31.07 | AdmiralPanda | let me know when you start |
22:31.42 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
22:32.13 | Monet | So every time I encounter Codsworth he calls me "Mr. Bastard" |
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23:26.49 | AdmiralPanda | http://steamcommunity.com/broadcast/watch/76561198037756929/ steam broadcast to watch Monet play |
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23:31.25 | Charles_Bot | Hey Technobliterator : Do you know if there's any way I could paint a cell within a table a given color? |
23:31.39 | Charles_Bot | The background of a cell, that is |
23:33.41 | Technobliterator | yup |
23:33.52 | Technobliterator | style="background-color:[here]" |
23:34.59 | Charles_Bot | Tyvm! |
23:36.10 | dino82_ | New Rambo Nation Cadet Uniform around 15 AQF (upcoming timedate), a flightsuite uniform for Academy Cadets of Rambo Command: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Sia_(Cadet)lARGE.png |
23:37.51 | AdmiralPanda | http://steamcommunity.com/broadcast/watch/76561198037756929/ URL might have changed to Monet's stream |
23:38.24 | Charles_Bot | Oooh! Very fancy! I love the collar |
23:38.46 | Charles_Bot | Interesting to have a uniform change in Rambo Nation after so long |
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23:39.56 | Charles_Bot | They're going from a bright and shiny uniform to a darker and more serious one, it seems. Should we read into the change? ;) |
23:41.50 | Charles_Bot | dino82_: inb4 Rambo nation's military alertness is reflected in its uniforms. The darker the uniform, the grimmer the situation is |
23:42.14 | dino82_ | @Charles: Thanks! Yeah was in due time! And perhaps the military alertness does show itself. |
23:42.16 | dino82_ | :D |
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23:45.23 | The_Randomness | Hello |
23:46.01 | dino82_ | hi |
23:51.08 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
23:51.24 | The_Randomness | hm |
23:51.47 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
23:51.55 | The_Randomness | hm? |
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