IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160615

00:01.04OluapPlayerBefore we talked about he didn't name his characters because he felt bad for killing them
00:01.07OluapPlayerNow this happens
00:01.18OluapPlayerQuadrantis status quo is shattered
00:03.21CyrannianVery few of my established characters have been killed, I tend to regret it when I do pop them off, like Gianne
00:03.50OluapPlayerGianne - at least dont have to deal with current affairs
00:05.38CyrannianDino always surprises me though, if it was up to me, the Rambo would have been free of the Concordat, though he likes the political dimension it adds
00:07.18ImpyDroidRight so outside of Morgan being killed again and Apol'eus awakening what does this tory change
00:07.21ImpyDroid*story
00:07.39OluapPlayerHow apathetic
00:08.07ImpyDroid""Sorry, Mr. Sorceror, your days of sorcering are over!" she firmly said as she plunged her sword in the chest of Morgandaûr and jumped backwards."
00:08.19ImpyDroidShit that is like the best line in the whole story
00:09.17CyrannianDino came up with that, (Aoirtae would have been unconscious and Du'utahrovin would have otherwise done the deed)
00:09.52ImpyDroidOluapPlayer: Well
00:09.56ImpyDroidMorgan died before
00:10.32HachimanPretty good story, seeing Du'utahrovin in action was awesome
00:10.47HachimanAnd the dynamic between all the characters was great as well
00:11.08Cyranniandanke
00:11.24ImpyDroidDu should be in a story together with a few Draconis
00:11.33ImpyDroidAnd the Draconis should be famboying over him
00:11.36HachimanAlso Apolithanatar and Tyromairon showdown hype
00:13.39CyrannianGlad you like it, people are free to make characters for this new order if they wish
00:13.45Hachimannoice
00:20.45OluapPlayerGorf for order
00:20.54HachimanGorfder
00:20.55OluapPlayermagic creature for magic order
00:21.25Hachimani wanna hav a dark an edgy broody guy
00:21.39OluapPlayerfuk off go to phaedra then
00:22.36Hachimani wanna hav a cool an jovial guy for phaedra
00:22.46OluapPlayerm8
00:23.12OluapPlayeryou can't even update hachi's page let alone make new characters
00:23.22Hachiman;-;
00:27.53Cyrannian#rude
00:28.17CyrannianSpeaking of updating Oluap, Meke's page grrr
00:29.05OluapPlayerwut
00:29.14OluapPlayerI've nothing to add to it
00:29.45CyrannianThe last part of his biography is about Brezank
00:29.51OluapPlayerHm
00:30.02OluapPlayerI guess I can make a small note of the new story
00:30.09OluapPlayerHe didn't do that much there
00:30.21OluapPlayerStabbed a guy and had rocks thrown at his face
00:30.59Cyrannian*and was set on fire
00:31.19OluapPlayerMeketanor - no one needs to know that part
00:35.17OluapPlayerdere
00:36.37Cyranniangud doe add picture too
00:37.26OluapPlayerNo space for it
00:37.33OluapPlayerMaybe when there's more text to be added
00:38.22CyrannianI would replace the one of him and Venatorius with the new one of him facing Kara, as it uses his current model, but it's up to you
00:47.04HachimanImpyDroid: Apparently Kratos' son in GoW 4 is called Charlie
00:47.09HachimanI'm sat here like "wut"
00:47.18OluapPlayerKRATOS AND charlie
00:47.39HachimanLike, I'd expect a Greek or Norse name
00:49.01TechnobliteratorCharlie? Wow
00:49.04Technobliteratorthat's urm
00:49.05Technobliteratoreh
00:49.34TechnobliteratorIs this a sequel to the GoW trilogy, or just a reboot? The title "God of War" and this Kratos seeming so different made me think it was a reboot
00:49.41HachimanIt's a sequel
00:49.43MonetMuch time was spent debating over the name of Kraots's son.
00:49.46HachimanGameplay reboot though
00:50.01MonetKratos's*
00:50.24HachimanYeah, I'm fairly sure either this info about the kid is fake or something because I see only two sources saying that's the kid's name
00:51.38HachimanThe premise of the story from what I can assume is that Kratos survived the events at the end of God of War 3 via faking his death and immigrated to Valhalla to settle down and temper his rage
00:51.49HachimanAnd started up a new family or something
00:53.14HachimanHe still has the Spartan rage which is cool
00:54.37TechnobliteratorI'm hyped \o/
00:55.59HachimanI like the look of GoW4's Kratos
00:57.46TechnobliteratorThat, Horizon Zero Dawn and Detroit Beyond Human are still probably the only games I'm 100% sold on from E3
00:57.54TechnobliteratorI'd say FFXV, but I already preordered it, so eh
00:58.16CyrannianHalo Wars 2 is the only one I'm sure about, though I'll probably get Battlefield
00:58.49TechnobliteratorI would be sure about Halo Wars 2, but I don't think I'll get Windows 10
00:58.53Technobliteratoroh wait, DoW3, forgot that
00:58.53HachimanI dunno how Halo Wars 2 is gonna go down
00:58.56TechnobliteratorI'm 100% sold on that
00:59.57OluapPlayerDoW3 is probably not a W10 exclusive
01:02.38TechnobliteratorYeah, it's coming to Linux, if the other DoWs are anything to go on
01:02.45TechnobliteratorEven if it wasn't, I'd get Win10, probably
01:04.40OluapPlayerI'll probably upgrade next time I upgrade my rig, since I've little reason not to
01:04.47OluapPlayerBut I need a new processor and graphics card
01:04.51OluapPlayerand dat shi expensiv
01:36.26CyrannianNight folks
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01:41.08DrodoEmpireHi
01:41.11Helllrockhai
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01:50.40MonetHello
01:52.16dino82_hi
01:52.28DrodoEmpireHi
01:56.47dino82_howz all doing
01:56.55MonetBusy
01:58.08DrodoEmpireI'm good
01:58.30DrodoEmpireSleepy, though- I'll need to head off within the hour no doubt
02:03.43dino82_busy?
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07:59.15Liquid_InkHey
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10:19.33ImperiosHi
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10:23.15WormydroidHi
10:23.24GhelaeHello.
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10:25.30GhelaeHello.
10:28.11WormydroidI posted some responses on sporewiki and cyrannus after you left, why I give humans and AI so much choice power.  But nvm it was a discussion on vague subject abyway
10:32.05GhelaeIn practice, I agree the way it's going to work (at least at first) is that we'll teach AI like children and basically hope they grow up to be nice people.
10:34.02WormydroidI agree with that as well
10:34.56WormydroidBut I suppose we have also got to treat them well
10:35.30GhelaeThat's all going to be part of it, yes.
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11:11.34WormydroidShow is over now, we distributed the remaining drinks and food between, comibg back with more than I brought :P
11:12.01GhelaeWas there more food on the chilli stand?
11:12.09WormydroidWibe, beer, soft drinks, tortillas, nuts, breadsticks etc
11:12.27WormydroidYes, a big plate of chillis between us
11:12.57WormydroidWe were daring ourselves to eat them.  I now have stomach ache
11:14.22WormydroidFunny thing is, that the pair of students that set it up were meant to make a performance out of it and put it live on YouTube, they never bothereddespite buying so much and hiribg tables
11:14.56WormydroidBrb
11:18.03WormydroidTest
11:39.43ImperiosHi
11:39.52ImperiosMonet: What do you call that deer crown from Game of Thrones
11:40.21MonetCan you link an image?
11:40.55Imperioshttp://lovelace-media.imgix.net/uploads/135/a1129470-9cbc-0131-5c11-6e792fd93971.png? THis one
11:43.20MonetI'm at a loss ot any particular name. Let me d osome research
11:44.27MonetMight just call it the Stag Crown.
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11:51.14JepardiHi
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12:07.43AdmiralPandahi all
12:42.36ImperiosHi
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12:42.59ImperiosAdmiralPanda Monet: What is the most common title for drow leaders in fantasy?
12:43.14AdmiralPandadepends on which edition of D&D you're talking
12:43.20ImperiosLike, are they led by kings/queens, emperors/empresses, counts/countesses, or something?
12:43.21Imperiosrite
12:43.27AdmiralPandaMatriarch, High Priestess, anything that sounds like it belongs in a BDSM video
12:44.06AdmiralPandaD&D drow are always matriarchal and usually highly religious (in a demon sense), so that's a thing
12:44.36ImperiosRight so usually not actual traditional aristocratic titles
12:46.15AdmiralPanda*shrugs* they can use them if you want
12:49.09ImperiosWell it's the SporeWiki drow I am making stuff for, I just ask about the usual fantasy traditions so I could make decisions based on that
12:49.20ImperiosHachi mentions some "Mirror Lords"
12:50.13ImperiosBasically I am making a coat of arms of the Dryadali Sovereign that will include the drow and I'm thinking about the crown that could be used for that coat of arms
12:50.24ImperiosAs in, the smaller drow coat of arms for the larger one
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13:09.50Wormy_Monet, Imperios:  What were the main highlights from Microsoft, Ubisoft and Bethesda that I might have missed?
13:09.59Wormy_And did Sony show more of No Man's Sky?
13:10.10MonetWe didn't see No Man's sky
13:10.21Wormy_Makes sense
13:10.21MonetBut we did see another sandboc space sim: Dual.
13:10.43Wormy_Ooh I'll look that up
13:11.02MonetThat was talking about an MMO mechanic where all players shared a single server, and that players could collect to gether to build anything from a starfighter to a city.
13:12.23Wormy_Looks like Space Engineers + Elite or Star Citizen
13:13.56MonetYeah
13:16.37Wormy_I know its early times but it doesn't shout itself out to me as something distinctive
13:17.16Wormy_Maybe its because I've had so much energy watching the development of Space Engine, Infinity, Elite, Star Citizen etc
13:17.28Wormy_NMS
13:19.44Wormy_Did Microsoft unveil any more virtual reality products?
13:22.56MonetNot that I recall
13:23.15MonetOne thing they are trying is to create a cross-platoform compatability with their servers
13:23.41MonetFor example someoen playing Minecraft on their PC can play with someone playing Minecraft on Xbox.
13:24.18Wormy_That's nice
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13:26.39Wormy_Its nice to see Minecraft is still strong
13:31.34Wormy_OMG
13:31.42Wormy_What the hell is Ark Survival?
13:32.06MonetArk Survival Evolved?
13:32.42MonetIts this survival game set on a world full of prehistoric creatures.
13:32.42Wormy_Yeah, I thought it was that survival game where you are trapped in a lost world, but I'm seeing the perspective of creatures here
13:32.56Wormy_kind of like.,.  Spore?
13:33.17MonetOh yeah I've heard stories of mods that allow you to play as a dinosaur.
13:34.19Wormy_see this trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwu-Hm4T3Lw
13:37.01MonetPlay as a monkey -> monkey horde throws poop at the human.
13:37.06Wormy_lol
13:37.48MonetThe second half of the trailer is what I'm more familiar with
13:38.12MonetXho and I have something of a base set up
13:39.23Wormy_I remember the game when it came out, looks like its expanding into everything it can
13:40.09Wormy_Build a castle with trubbchette?  History check.  Play as a dinosaur.  Prehistory check.  Play as...
13:40.25Wormy_*trebuchet
13:41.01MonetWell any time could be covered I guess
13:41.11MonetAs endgame weapons resemble M16s
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13:41.34CyrannianHai
13:41.34MonetBut the island the game is set in is full of prehistoric creatures both well known and obscure
13:41.37MonetHi
13:41.52MonetLike, you could feed yourself off trilobite meat.
13:41.54CyrannianYou summoned me by saying 'prehistoric creatures'
13:42.19MonetLol
13:42.26MonetWormy got interested in Ark
13:42.42Wormy_Mostly the play as a creature element
13:43.10OluapPlayer~choke Cyrannian
13:43.18infobotACTION squeezes Cyrannian till he turns blue like papa smurf
13:43.18CyrannianIf you're interested in that element, you may like the Isle. It's early access, but it entirely revolves around playing as prehistoric creatures
13:43.18Cyrannian~smash OluapPlayer
13:43.18infobotACTION flings an anvil in OluapPlayer's general direction
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13:44.25AdmiralPandainterwebs decided to conk out
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13:45.27GhelaeHello.
13:46.08CyrannianHi
13:46.28Wormy_Looks like Ubisoft's got a Star Trek game
13:46.33Wormy_hi
13:47.02Wormy_I'm just rushing through the conferences picking out individual games I might like
13:47.30OluapPlayerYes, Star Trek VR
13:47.33AdmiralPandatbh the only star trek game I'll ever like is a co-op bridge command game
13:47.49MonetWHich is what we're getting
13:48.02AdmiralPandaindeed
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13:49.07MonetI just heard listening to an EA interview: Tere's talk of epxanding games into the Force Awakens timeline.
13:49.41MonetPersonally I've become meh to any Star Wars outside the old republic.
13:50.00Wormy_Looks like the first game faithful to the feel of Star Trek
13:50.11Wormy_Also, the idea of coop is great
13:52.54MonetIt'll be set in the JJverse but I'm not too bothered
13:53.05MonetJust please don't blind me with lens flares guys
13:53.44Wormy_lol
13:54.16Wormy_I'm fine with that, both are non-canon but with STO in the primary universe it would feel uncomfortable for me if it changed
13:54.42Wormy_Though STO story writers have overused time travel
13:56.00CryptdidicalI'm not too familiar with STO, did they introduce the Borg in there, or are they still a bit out of reach?
13:56.35Wormy_Borg are in the game, but the game has abandoned them as playing any integral part
13:58.03Wormy_Most of the storyline built up to the Iconian invadion
13:58.06Wormy_*invasion
13:58.45Wormy_Pulled in various enemies across the franchise, including some obscure ones connected in a conspiracy style narrative
14:01.35MonetAs a threat the borg are...kind of samey.
14:02.07MonetThey're not that much that can be done with them before it all starts feelign repretetive.
14:02.36Wormy_Thats true
14:02.59CyrannianCryptdidical: Hello Cryptdidical!
14:04.10CyrannianAs for STO, I miss the Borg being the major threat, I'm kinda sick of this time travel arc
14:06.19Wormy_I thought we would be getting more exploration after that storyline.
14:06.29Wormy_They more or less said so
14:06.31CyrannianIndeed
14:07.04MonetI wonder if the Borg, as an entity or an idea, are bcoming something of a relic.
14:09.58CyrannianThat's possible
14:10.05AdmiralPandathey're a classic, but there's only one thing they can really do
14:10.32CyrannianThough I think it's best for them not to be recurring villains
14:10.44Wormy_indeed
14:11.24Wormy_I think Voyager used them too much and it made the Borg seem both weaker and less enigmatic
14:11.27CyrannianI like when they used the Voth, they were cool adversaries
14:14.45MonetWormy_: Yeah. The borg were sued sparingly in Next Generation
14:15.10ImperiosHiya
14:15.33Monetused sparingly*
14:16.35ImperiosOluapPlayer: Outside of the Khals and the Niaka, are there any other client species of the Sovereignty?
14:16.42Wormy_I admit I have been a Borg fanboy more than once
14:16.43ImperiosThem and the Tartariaon races
14:16.54OluapPlayerI don't recall any
14:17.18Wormy_I still think the Borg could threaten the Star Wars galaxy if they lurked in the shadows and gradually assimilated technologies in the Outer Rim unnoticed
14:17.19OluapPlayerHachi says there are humans living in the Sovereignty, but I don't know if they count as clients
14:17.32ImperiosYeah there are
14:18.04OluapPlayerBut other than that, there aren't any other named client races atm
14:18.04Wormy_Though probably one Imperial or Republic fleet could have crushed the Borg Collective as it stands if they invaded first
14:21.04Wormy_Hm, there's a very loud person screaming in the Bethesda conference
14:21.44OluapPlayerYes there was a woman screaming her lungs out iirc
14:21.54Wormy_<PROTECTED>
14:22.02MonetThat womn bloody loved ESO
14:22.39Wormy_At least its her money well spent
14:23.21Wormy_How does she scream through the whole conference without roughing up her vocal cords
14:24.25MonetNo idea
14:26.47CyrannianMaybe it was Jenna Marbles, she made a video about her obsession with ESO
14:27.33Wormy_Someone says it was Jessica Nigri
14:34.16Cyrannianhttps://titanpad.com/J0fS5vsuER - If anyone wants their empire to send ships to help defend Coruanthor against the Neraida, feel free to join
14:34.50Ghelaetakes a look
14:37.03CyrannianImperios: Monet: Vincent20100: particularly you people (if you're interested, your empire could simply be mentioned if you don't want to write anything)
14:37.34Vincent20100Thanks, I will take a look
14:37.41Vincent20100Of course Cyra!
14:38.16MonetYeah alright
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14:43.42Wormy_hi
14:47.43TreebeardHello
14:48.03GhelaeHello.
14:48.53Wormy_I don't know why people think the bird hovering in Undeciphered 2 looks unrealistic and "trippy".  Have they never stuck their head outside?
14:50.29Wormy_*Dishonoured 2
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15:28.37HachimanHello
15:29.37OluapPlayerpoke
15:29.38AdmiralPandahi
15:30.23GhelaeHello.
15:38.13ImperiosHi
15:38.24Wormy_hi
15:38.30ImperiosHachiman OluapPlayer: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/f1/Dryadali_Coat_of_Arms.png/revision/latest?cb=20160615153752 Take a look
15:38.57Wormy_How did you make that?
15:39.00HachimanPretty nice; which flags belong to who?
15:39.22OluapPlayerBEEEEEEEEEEEEES
15:39.28ImperiosWormy_: GIMP, a heraldic database and a lot of time and patience
15:39.38ImperiosHachiman: The central one is the Sovereignty as a whole
15:39.49ImperiosThe other long ones are the Sovereignty's elven races
15:39.53ImperiosThe short ones stand for clients
15:39.57HachimanAh
15:40.04Wormy_You must have been doing your work studying herald emblems for that
15:40.33ImperiosI've been into heraldry recently
15:40.37OluapPlayerWhat does the text mean?
15:40.42Imperios"To each his own"
15:41.14OluapPlayerI see
15:41.15Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Neraida_War#Turning_Point_at_Coruanthor - Take a look, a turning point in the Neraida War
15:41.36CyrannianI'll make another picture tomorrow showing more of the allied fleet
15:41.59OluapPlayerexplosions woo
15:44.45ImperiosWormy_: http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/Stars/Heraldry_SVG_Images/index.htm This website is pretty usefil
15:45.14CryptdidicalHello Cyrannian! Delayed response haha. While I'm at it, a goodnight to you all.
15:45.30CyrannianGoodnight!
15:47.24Wormy_night
15:47.35HachimanImperios: What could be a fancier alternate and formal name for the Khargrim Realm
15:48.13Imperios"United Khargrim Principalities" kind of just struck me
15:48.56HachimanHm it sounds fancy but it doesn't really strike as fitting since the Khargrim were never divided in the first place
15:54.06ImperiosRight then
15:54.49Imperioshttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/f1/Dryadali_Coat_of_Arms.png/revision/latest?cb=20160615155429 Added a few minor tweaks
15:55.23ImperiosHm, is it obvious which shield stands for which race?
15:55.37HachimanNot entirely
15:56.03HachimanA few I can guess
15:58.09ImperiosWhich ones?
15:58.27HachimanSalamander one is for Erylia, I am assuming the black and white stag one is for Aithrena, the mountain one if your roc-flying elves, humans are the shield at the top with the Niaka and the snakefolk
15:59.01OluapPlayerNiaka are flies and not bees but it works well enough
16:00.07OluapPlayerI take the mountain is for Imp's mountain elves
16:00.12ImperiosAye
16:00.27ImperiosThe bee is often used in heraldry as a symbol of hard work and diligence
16:00.31ImperiosI suppose that works for Niaka
16:00.36OluapPlayerIt does
16:00.50OluapPlayerI'm not sure which one is meant to be the Hikamera
16:00.53ImperiosThe three white dragons
16:01.03OluapPlayerI was gonna guess the bottom right one
16:01.04HachimanAre Derevar on there?
16:01.21ImperiosYes but their coat of arms kind of sucked as I had no idea what to add there
16:01.27ImperiosIt's the one with the hat and the tower
16:01.50Hachimannoice
16:01.53OluapPlayerWhat's the bottom right coat?
16:01.58ImperiosVila
16:02.03OluapPlayerAh
16:02.15HachimanWhat about those two left coats at the top?
16:02.24OluapPlayerI remember the mountain elves but not the Vila
16:02.36ImperiosThat's my guys from Tartarion, which are clients of the Sovereignty
16:02.40OluapPlayerThose are Tartarion's races I think
16:02.41OluapPlayerc
16:02.45HachimanAh
16:04.16Cyrannianbbl
16:04.28ImperiosI'll probably remake the Derevar symbol when I can
16:04.38ImperiosI was not sure what to put there and which crown should I use
16:04.54ImperiosSo I unded up using that weird tower thing and the bishop's hat
16:06.15ImperiosActually
16:06.25ImperiosWhat sort of government do Derevar have in the Sovereignty?
16:07.50HachimanThey have an elective monarchy I think the term is; that is, Derevar vote for their kings rather than the position being hereditary
16:08.13ImperiosRite
16:08.25ImperiosSo they have a king
16:08.48HachimanWell, I dunno what else kind of leader they would have
16:09.04HachimanA monarch in general really, they are not fussed about gender roles
16:09.47ImperiosNot king as opposed to queen, king as opposed to prince, duke, baron etc
16:10.49HachimanHm
16:10.54HachimanThey could have an archduke actually
16:11.31ImperiosRite
16:11.49ImperiosI'll edit an archducal crown at some point then
16:12.03HachimanI doubt the Sovereignty would allow the Derevar to have a king and would have some strict regulation of which candidates are legislated to be elected
16:13.19HachimanAnd the archduke answers to some Sovereignty authority directly rather than having as much independence as say the monarchs and leaders of the other elven states do
16:14.41ImperiosSo he's not a member of the Ouroboros then?
16:16.05HachimanWell, they would be but either they are a lesser member, not a member of the inner circle, or have far more restriction imposed upon them than the other members of the Ouroboros
16:19.02Imperiosrite
16:19.07HachimanOuroboros actually kinda fears the Derevar due to their antimagical nature and would wish to control and puppeteer them as much as possible so as to not have that power turned upon them; the Aithrena brought the Derevar under the fold of the Sovereignty militarily rather than through invitation
16:20.42HachimanA kind of "accept our protection and get rid of your lord or dai" kind of thing which has remained in place for some millennia
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16:21.54GhelaeHello.
16:22.04XhoHi
16:24.52ImperiosXho: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/f1/Dryadali_Coat_of_Arms.png/revision/latest?cb=20160615155429 More coats of arms for the coat of arms god
16:26.49Xhohttps://data.desustorage.org/a/image/1452/27/1452277365880.png Meanwhile the Shiarchon are all like
16:27.05XhoNice and detailed tho
16:29.20Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/h1mdM
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16:30.09Wormy_I'll be too old and past it
16:36.25ImperiosXho: Actually I imagine the fasces on the coat of arms were inspired in-universe by the Orichalcum Imperium
16:36.29ImperiosIf Oris used fasces that is
16:36.50Wormy_Ghelae, Xho, Monet, Hachiman: If you have a silver 2p coin, its worth a lot of money http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36542793
16:37.13XhoImperios: Probably
16:37.35GhelaeAlas, all the 2p coins I've ever seen are the normal copper cones.
16:37.36MonetNever seen a 2p before
16:37.50MonetWell, not silver anyway
16:38.19ImperiosI actually have two British coins
16:38.31ImperiosNot sure what is their worth though
16:38.51ImperiosOne has a lion on it, the other a cage
16:38.57AdmiralPandaI've got an Australian 1c coin, that thing's old as fuck
16:39.08AdmiralPandasadly it's only worth its weight in its composite metals
16:39.20AdmiralPandawhich, funnily enough, is significantly more than one cent
16:39.21HachimanHow can you tell the difference between a silver 2p coin and a copper 2p coin
16:39.29ImperiosHachiman: Colour I guess
16:39.40HachimanYeah but silver 2ps would be rusted
16:39.48ImperiosI do not think silver rusts
16:39.53HachimanAnd could easily look like copper ones
16:39.57AdmiralPandarust is a thing that only happens to iron :P
16:39.59ImperiosIt darkens I think
16:40.08AdmiralPandasilver tarnishes, but that just makes it go black
16:40.14ImperiosIt turns dark-grey as opposed to grey
16:40.17ImperiosSo still not copper
16:41.56Wormy_Its not real silver, its nickel coating on steel so doesn't tarnish very easily
16:42.18Wormy_that being said it could go a dull grey
16:42.19ImperiosAlso copper suffers... oxidization as well
16:42.36ImperiosAnd it goes green as opposed to brown
16:43.06HachimanRight let me grab all my 2ps
16:43.14HachimanBecause I might have one or two
16:43.46Wormy_Heh, so am I
16:45.29HachimanIs there any other way I can tell the difference, like date?
16:45.49ImperiosWait so are copper 2ps rare in the UK now?
16:45.57ImperiosAnd 1ps coins?
16:49.09GhelaeNo, they aren't rare at all.
16:49.31AdmiralPandaare we talking two pence coins or two pound coins?
16:49.36ImperiosTwo pence
16:49.37GhelaePence.
16:49.47GhelaeBut they are probably most commonly found inside charity collection tubs.
16:49.59AdmiralPandaright, cos what I just read says they were only minted in bronze, and copper-plated steel
16:50.41AdmiralPandaso if there's a silver one it was probably a special edition mint
16:50.56GhelaeNot quite; it was a mistake.
16:51.35GhelaeSomehow a 2p coin got into the 10p nickel-plating machine or something like that.
16:52.17AdmiralPandaeither way, not regular circulation, and therefore very rare period
16:53.39GhelaeIndeed. Hence it sold for £1350.
16:55.28Wormy_Its always worth checking and keeping a look out.  Some people out there will have them unknowingly
16:56.58Wormy_Don't know what the point of 1 and 2 ps are though
16:57.04AdmiralPandaI have a special edition centenary of federation dollar coin that I could sell for a couple hundred, but I got it on the day so gonna keep it
16:57.12Wormy_Junk that fill up your wallet
16:57.49Wormy_We call them shrapnel
16:58.07Wormy_I think I'd rather just buy things for 1 pound and skip the 99p thing
16:58.11AdmiralPandaeveryone calls them shrapnel
16:58.49AdmiralPanda"shrapnel day" is when everyone at a given office pools their silver coins to buy coffee for the day
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17:07.01Xhoups
17:07.08OluapPlayerspoi
17:09.04XhoI was about to say I can't use BLU Nnnngh Sniper in my video but Kuga just found me a fix
17:09.09Xhos'all gud
17:09.29OluapPlayerIt's just a Sniper with the zombie item
17:09.30OluapPlayerya git
17:09.36Wormy_I found a brick red 2p coin, but that's just tarnished
17:10.01Wormy_and probably too worn to even circulate not that anyone would give a damn
17:10.18XhoSaris' hi-res models don't account for zombie textuers
17:10.21Xhotextures even
17:10.33XhoSniper model is missing its arms
17:10.46OluapPlayerno-arm wanker
17:11.28XhoKuga just found me an addon which spawns pre-made zombie classes as a ragdoll so there's no missing textures on those
17:12.19OluapPlayerI see
17:28.56Wormy_This is fun http://stormhighway.com/sferics.php
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17:40.25Quark8Hello.
17:40.59GhelaeHello.
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17:50.29Wormy_Would you say the Annihilation occured in the early 2780s?
17:50.51Wormy_The Civilisation probably formed not long before that
17:51.21MonetYeah I rememebr the restart of the fictionverse in...2781/2782.
17:52.43Wormy_Right the Great Expedition that marks the beginning of the Tigris War was AD 2754 - 2755, for the Milky Way Commonwealth's description of the Civilisation forming is too early, probably happened no earlier than 2770's
17:52.56Wormy_Charles wanted me to check
17:53.35GhelaeThe Civilisation formed after the Girdo Campaigns, didn't it?
17:53.48Wormy_I think we need to fix the timeline.  Years go in leaps and bounds now but much of the fiction universe happened in the space of 25 years
17:53.51Wormy_Yeah
17:54.06GhelaeCurrently I have the Campaigns as being in 2772.
17:55.01GhelaeThere was that user who's made an attempt to come up with a single integrated timeline. Still shows up occasionally to add things to it.
17:55.15GhelaeI don't remember the name, unfortunately.
17:55.25Wormy_Just at the end of 2772 then.  The the emergence of the Technoosphere must have occurred a 2 or 3 years prior the Annihilation, which is long enough for the AI gods to reawaken
17:56.01Ghelaechecks when the Annihilation was
17:56.17Ghelae2782
17:56.20Wormy_I've seen his page, he/she did good work
17:58.48OluapPlayerBanelord is his name
17:58.53OluapPlayerHe's been gone for a while
17:59.12OluapPlayerAnd yeah, the Annihilation happened in 2782
18:00.19GhelaeBanelord, yeah: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Banelord88
18:01.30OluapPlayerNovember 3
18:01.31OluapPlayerhe ded
18:07.28Wormy_Huh, and there I have it on the Civ page anyway
18:11.18MonetHAchiman: I had a thought. The name of Kratos' son is "Chris". What if t's Chris as in Kristoff?
18:16.03Wormy_Pidgeon catches the train http://imgur.com/gallery/Cj6xZdx
18:17.06Wormy_http://i.imgur.com/O2U0n5A.gif
18:17.32Wormy_http://i.imgur.com/ytFIDez.gifv
18:18.04Wormy_http://i.imgur.com/U0ljqu4.gifv
18:18.11Wormy_Clever birds dumb humans
18:24.51Wormy_I think gravitational waves have been detected a second time https://twitter.com/PhysicsWorld/status/743136983770349568
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18:26.24MonetI had a theory aobut Uriel's personal shield
18:26.57MonetI've stated it works by absorbing the kinetic impact of collisions of a certain velocity.
18:27.21MonetBut never stated hwo fast somethign had to go to bypass his shield.
18:29.15Monetsorry wrong way round
18:29.27MonetNever specified how fast something had to go to hit the shield
18:30.34MonetIt gave me this picture of Uriel's shield withstanding collisions by fast cars or mid-air collisions.
18:31.52MonetTHeoretically running into an oncoming object would trigger the shield.
18:32.25GhelaeBut if something heavy hits him at high speed, he'll still fly backwards unless his shield also violates conservation of momentum.
18:32.37Wormy_Hm, is it a shield which can withstand shock, or something-more, like somehow transfer that kinetic energy away from Uriel.  Even his bones would probably break from such a collision.
18:33.07ImperiosMonet: https://youtu.be/RYfFwyyrCAc?t=23
18:33.33GhelaeNot that conservation of momentum seems to be a huge barrier in the SporeWikiverse.
18:33.54Wormy_I mean I hate to keep invoking hyperspace to dump all that excess momentum in the form of heat or something (which probably makes his shield superhot in our universe too)
18:34.11ImperiosSo
18:34.18ImperiosIt is not just a forcefield
18:34.22ImperiosIt is a burning forcefield
18:34.41GhelaeHeat is movement of energy, not momentum. But I suppose transferring momentum to hyperspace might be how some reactionless drives work.
18:35.02MonetI think I had it disperse the heat across the surface.
18:35.12GhelaeActually, I was thinking of rewriting the hyperspace page anyway.
18:35.40MonetBut yes if a suitably massive object hits him he'll go flying back I imagine
18:35.43Wormy_I wasn't sure, I didn't want to say "dumping all that momentum into hyperspace", because I don't know what it would be dumping exactly
18:36.31GhelaeHypermatter would essentially be a gigantic extremely low-temperature superfluid (explaining how it can be used as a heat sink), so transferring momentum to it is basically creating waves in this fluid.
18:36.57Wormy_right
18:37.23GhelaeThis superfluid would also define a fixed frame of reference, explaining why time travel is so difficult... but it can still be disturbed, explaining why time travel is still possible.
18:38.10GhelaeOh, and we can also add that idea about non-orientable wormholes being what gives access to hyperspace.
18:38.30MonetRegarding actually surviving a collision.
18:38.42MonetMight work if he's wearing his armour
18:39.54Wormy_The thing is, unless his armour is really incomprehensible, the shield could end up going strsight through him, if say, a flying car smacked into him
18:40.25Wormy_*incoimpressible
18:41.42MonetHard for me to describe his armour as its engineered with knowledge that's probably millennia ahead of whatever the best minds on Earth can design.
18:41.53Wormy_and I guess if it then didn't shatter into thousands of pieces, forces would still be exerted inside enough to be turned to pulp
18:42.50Wormy_But maybe hyperspace does work for this, by transferring that momentum into waves in hyperspace
18:43.13MonetPadding might be ineffective at these sorts of impacts
18:43.16Wormy_And probably the only way we can cause an apparent violation of physics
18:44.18GhelaeIf you can't get rid of the momentum like that, all armour and shielding can do is transfer the pressure of an impact over a greater area and mass so that there's less acceleration felt.
18:44.55MonetI think i've indicated that's what imperial power armour is generally designed to do.
18:45.49Wormy_What if the material was something like monopolium?  Its much denser, so you could fit more mass into a smaller area around his suit or shield
18:46.10Wormy_But the area wouldn't change I guess overall
18:46.24ImperiosXho: Do Shiarchon hae any form of heraldic emblem or just that weird seal thing
18:46.31XhoJust that emblem
18:46.38ImperiosHm
18:46.40Wormy_Unless since monopole atoms are smaller, and they are folded up, somehow you get more area out of that
18:46.45XhoI guess they'd have a seal for each of the Praetors
18:46.48ImperiosSeeing that it is round, is it like Kalarah's seal or something?
18:46.51XhoBut there's 84 of them
18:46.56GhelaeIf your hit by a bullet, it's a small amount of momentum over a small area, so pressure is the problem; body armour can spread that momentum over your entire body. But being hit by a car, you can't increase the area, so increasing the mass is all you can do.
18:46.56MonetWouldn't that also make his armour a lot heavier?
18:46.59XhoIt's the Seal of Makkarast
18:47.22GhelaeAnd no, you won't get more overall area by increasing internal area somehow. Monopolium will only help by making the armour a lot heavier.
18:47.35ImperiosRite
18:48.08GhelaeBut e.g. if Uriel is hit by a bus at 60mph, and his armour makes him weigh as much as a bus, he and the bus will end up travelling at 30mph each
18:48.46Wormy_People can survive being hit by 30mph cars I think, so a Draconis certainly could
18:49.30Wormy_then again, that only works if they are of equal weight, nvm
18:50.14Wormy_But I'm sure Imperial technology could have an exoskeleton small and powerful enough to weight like a bus but give him the strength to move fluidly
18:50.30Wormy_And maybe that could be approaching a limit?
18:53.21MonetWeight's often an issue because it ofte nslows the wearer down
18:53.48MonetWhen armoured however, Uriel could weight three, maybe ten tons but he'd be wearing an armour that can keep him fluid even at those kinds of masses.
18:57.29GhelaeUltimately, if your armour/shielding can't get rid of momentum, the only way for it to help you withstand a collision with something that has a greater cross-sectional area than you is if it increases your mass so that your total change in velocity is less. So it's usually best not to focus your armour on allowing to you to be hit by large heavy vehicles.
18:58.26Wormy_We need the Rule of Cool sometimes
18:58.26HachimanIdeally, you just want to avoid being hit by large heavy vehicles
18:58.59GhelaeHachi's got the right idea there.
18:59.38Wormy_Uriel probably wants armour based on manoeuvrability in that case
19:00.19Wormy_and shields aren't much good if you are being flanked by the sides in projectile-warfare
19:01.05Wormy_But Sporewikiverse has a considerable amount of melee anyway, because rule of cool
19:02.47MonetUriel's shield is designed to give him resistance against small-arms fire.
19:03.09MonetWHich makes close combaat a better way of taking him out were he not a proficient sordsman and
19:03.30MonetAnd, well, a half-ton dragon wearing a suit of armour that allows hi mto flip tanks.
19:03.53Wormy_I see, a shield could be useful in confined spaces
19:04.58GhelaeWith small-arms fire (and even most melee), a shield that spreads the pressure of an impact over the shield's entire area would be a very effective defence.
19:05.40HachimanHachi only really needs light armour to defend against small weapons fire - or did, rather
19:06.05HachimanOtherwise he optimises mobility and manoeuvrability
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19:06.47Wormy_hi
19:06.50DrodoEmpireHi everyone
19:07.07GhelaeA 100 g projectile travelling at 1 km/s hitting a 3 tonne armoured Uriel is going to be applying an impulse to change his velocity by 1000*0.1/3000 = ~0.03 m/s. That's basically nothing.
19:07.08GhelaeHello.
19:07.36MonetAlthough discussions on velocity did also make me wonder if his shield protects hi mfrom lightning-fast sclsoe quarters combat
19:07.49HachimanI wonder if a vibroblade could deflect a bullet
19:08.19DrodoEmpireDeflecting a projectile has much more to do with reflexes than it does the the thing you're deflecting with
19:08.23GhelaeWhy would a vibroblade be better than any sword in that matter?
19:08.38HachimanBecause vibrations, I dunno
19:08.52HachimanTry deflecting a bullet with a standard sword and your sword gets broken
19:09.22DrodoEmpireNot *necessarily*, but it may get a hole shot through it if you're unlucky
19:09.34GhelaeAh. Well, vibrating doesn't increase material strength.
19:09.47DrodoEmpireIf we're assuming the sword is made of sci-fi metal then it probably wouldn't break
19:10.25DrodoEmpireEither way, such a skill wouldn't be all that useful in a warfare setting as an enemy could simply fire a full-auto burst at you
19:10.36DrodoEmpireOr fire several semi-automatic shots in quick succession
19:10.41HachimanAye
19:10.50Wormy_mono-mono-ᵐᵒᶰᵒ
19:10.54GhelaeWear armour made of swords!
19:10.54Ghelae:P
19:11.06HachimanHow about using a sword made of words
19:11.08OluapPlayerBut then they'll deflect you with bullets
19:11.16DrodoEmpireMuch better to have *really* good bulletproof armour
19:11.29MonetYeah
19:11.57HachimanWormy_: That reminds me, I bought Proxima and Ultima while in town the other day
19:12.19Wormy_Oh, have you started reading Proxima yet?
19:12.24HachimanNot yet
19:12.27MonetA full magazine might wear the deflector down.
19:12.43Wormy_Its a crazy adventure that always changes and has a shocking surprise at the end
19:13.00HachimanOf course, Hachi does not need to worry about conventional ammunition and such since he has magic bullshit now
19:13.01Wormy_But the planet involved was really fascinating
19:13.05HachimanWell, stronger magic bullshit
19:14.26GhelaeMagic can presumably violate conservation laws when it wants to.
19:14.41OluapPlayerMagic bullshit doesn't make him immune to damage
19:15.04Wormy_You can only fight magic with magic, if one gets the reference
19:15.20MonetYes. Magic must defeat magic!
19:15.53Wormy_Thats the one
19:15.57Wormy_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-qLC_ptImo
19:21.53XhoOluapPlayer: I'm now at 1100 screenshots 58 seconds in                 halp
19:22.06OluapPlayerthis kills the gmodder
19:22.41XhoI haven't even got to the BLU Nnnngh fight yet
19:23.20XhoWell the actual number is 1086 but still
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19:28.50GhelaeHello.
19:29.34TheDinoHunterHi
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19:31.52GhelaeHello.
19:31.59Charles_MurrayHey
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20:03.16dino82_hi
20:03.27TheDinoHunterHi
20:05.33GhelaeHi
20:16.14dino82_howz all doing
20:21.17DrodoEmpireGood, good
20:24.40OluapPlayerHi dino
20:26.20ImperiosXho: Is it just me or are English and Mandarin kind of similar
20:26.40ImperiosBoth have short words and are analytical; both also have extremely complicated and unintuitive writing systems
20:29.16Charles_MurrayDoing well, Dino! How about yourself?
20:32.18Imperiosdino82_: A bit sick right now but otherwise quite fine
20:32.24ImperiosStarted watching Gravity Falls recently
20:33.26dino82_@Imperios: Ah ok :D
20:33.56dino82_tired?
20:34.04dino82_@CharleS: Great to hear! Me as well, thanks!
20:35.31XhoImperios: That's about it though
20:35.49Imperiosdino82_: Sick as in ill
20:38.08Wormy_Hachiman:  I take it you've seen the new Vsauce?
20:38.28HachimanLink?
20:38.34Wormy_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJhgZBn-LHg
20:39.58Wormy_His ability to transition from one subject to the other by analogy is awesome
20:40.14DrodoEmpire^
20:42.56dino82_@imperios: Oh auch, wish you the best luck
20:45.35XhoTechnobliterator: Playing guitar after 2 days of bass, wondering what ITTY BITTY INSTRUMENT is
20:45.51Technobliteratorhahaha
20:47.13ImperiosMaking coats of arms and emblems feels quite interesting and relaxing
20:47.28ImperiosNow I kinda regret choosing linguistics over design
20:47.37ImperiosThen again language will always help
20:47.56ImperiosUnlike an art degree, knowledge of languages and programming is much more practical
20:49.27ImperiosDrodoEmpire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IkSE0AXYBA
20:50.30DrodoEmpirehur
20:51.15Wormy_Design isn't art though.  If you do digital media for example, you can learn as much as you like: design principles, programming, web design, game design, animation, 3D, photrography, journalism, music, whatever.  All applicable in a huge range of areas
20:52.10Charles_MurrayNot enough designers in this world: http://www.drudgereport.com/
20:52.52Wormy_I'm going straight from a digital media design degree into computer science, though I focused hard on the programming and scientific visualisation aspects.  I could in principle go into animation, game or web design given what I've learned
20:53.01Wormy_*computer science Masters
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20:56.46ImperiosWell
20:56.47Wormy_hi
20:56.59GhelaeHi
20:57.07ImperiosHi
20:57.35ImperiosTybusen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IkSE0AXYBA THERE ARE NO SCHOOL SHOOTINGS IN THE USA
20:58.38TybusenHello
20:59.04Tybusen"The American President has invited you to Trump Tower"
21:00.17ImperiosBTW Tybu http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/d5/Empire_of_Man_CoA.png/revision/latest?cb=20160614214613 http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/f/f1/Dryadali_Coat_of_Arms.png/revision/latest?cb=20160615155429 Look at my coats of arms
21:00.39TybusenOoh
21:00.40Tybusennice
21:01.15Wormy_But could Trump's wall keep out immigrant Titans?
21:02.46HachimanConsidering spoilers I know for Attack on Titan, probably not
21:04.23ImperiosWormy_: Obviously
21:04.26ImperiosTitans destroy towers
21:04.35ImperiosEvidently they're Muslims and Trump won't let any
21:04.52ImperiosBesides Trump's glistening hair will blind them once they arrive before Trump Tower
21:05.02Imperios*at
21:05.03Imperioseven
21:05.03TybusenHachiman: Well, considering how the walls work, he probably did get the Titans to pay for it
21:05.18Hachimanhur
21:05.45Wormy_If they fail, I'm sure he can Top Trump them with nukes
21:07.42Wormy_https://twitter.com/DeepDrumpf/status/742795930374680576
21:08.57Wormy_https://twitter.com/DeepDrumpf/status/736255271467634688
21:09.00Wormy_wow
21:12.47ImperiosHm
21:12.54ImperiosNot sure who else could I make a coat of arms for
21:14.08OluapPlayerMerovar pls
21:14.18HachimanI was gonna say the Dynasty hur
21:42.27Xho"SALAMANDER AKBAR"
21:45.27OluapPlayerxcuse u
21:48.38XhoHachiman: That Lad Bible post about Neil Buchanan
21:48.45XhoThat was an eye opener
21:48.50HachimanLink it?
21:48.57Xhofind it urself
21:49.02Hachimanfukn
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21:57.48Xhohttps://www.facebook.com/LADbible/videos/2573887429325098/ dergs
21:58.19XhoI'd love to have a husky just for the fact they talk back at you
22:01.18OluapPlayerRAOOOO RAROOOO RAROOOOOO
22:08.19OluapPlayerI feel bad for the dog though, it's probably scared because it's being yelled at and it has no idea what's going on
22:09.41XhoHuskies do that a lot
22:09.41OluapPlayerHachiman Xho Imperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Vampirism I did a thing
22:09.44XhoAnd I mean a lot
22:12.04ImperiosOluapPlayer: i vill read zis now
22:13.10OluapPlayerF5 that
22:14.09Xhoquoted
22:15.00OluapPlayerThis is a shared page so I need to know if you're all okay with it
22:15.07XhoSeems alright with me
22:15.28ImperiosOluapPlayer: "there are little to no reports of Greater and True Dragons afflicted with vampirism." WAsn't there a vampire Sand Drake in War of Vampires?
22:15.59OluapPlayerYes, one
22:16.06OluapPlayerLittle to none, as opposed to none
22:16.07HachimanReally good page, I like it
22:16.10Wormy_People who shout at dogs make me laugh most of the time, especially when the dog is oblivious or just starts barking.  It doesn't translate it just makes the human look like a loud excited fuzzy thing
22:16.11XhoAdded another quote as well
22:16.12HachimanVery informative
22:16.23OluapPlayerquoting spree
22:16.54XhoThinking about it I don't think the Shiarchon can become vampires on the basis that they already drink blood
22:17.05Xhobada bing bada boom I guess
22:17.19OluapPlayerShiarchon have no souls so they probably can't become vampires for that reason
22:17.49HachimanDid we confirm that Derevar also cannot become vampires?
22:18.10OluapPlayerYes, because they're anti-magical and vampirism is a magical curse
22:18.24OluapPlayerLack of the Source = no vamprie
22:18.28OluapPlayervampire even
22:18.38XhoA Néva vampire would be interesting
22:18.50Xho"Batman the Bat, King of the Bat-Men Tribe"
22:18.52Xhofucking
22:18.57Hachimanhur
22:19.02OluapPlayerRiad - i mean it makes sense
22:19.04HachimanI feel I should point out you missed out the possibility of vampires breeding
22:19.18HachimanUnless only Purebloods breed other vampires
22:19.31OluapPlayerPurebloods don't breed at all
22:19.40OluapPlayerTwo halfbloods can make a vampire baby though I guess
22:19.48XhoThat being said I don't exactly know what Nanuk's magical power falls under, might be a curse or not I dunno
22:20.11HachimanSo a halfblood and a normal person wouldn't make a vampire baby, or would it be like a dhampir?
22:20.28OluapPlayerI mentioned dhampirs before so probably yes
22:20.32Hachimanrite
22:20.36OluapPlayerThey give birth to a special snowflake
22:20.53HachimanALL OF THEIR STRENGTHS
22:20.57HachimanNONE OF THEIR WEAKNESSES
22:21.02OluapPlayerActually, what am I saying
22:21.04OluapPlayerMadii is a dhampir
22:21.17HachimanOh yeah hur
22:21.17XhoKaaxhesh - a sexy one at that
22:21.42OluapPlayerMadii - wow         someone other than my lackeys complementing me
22:22.05HachimanI like to imagine that for balance's sake, dhampirs' vampiric strengths are not as strong as actual vampires to compensate for having no vampire weaknesses
22:22.25OluapPlayerThey'd have both strengths and weaknesses but in a lower scale
22:22.26XhoKaaxhesh - well who were you expecting          vultusk
22:22.29HachimanAh
22:22.48HachimanAlso I'll reserve a spot for quoting when I can think of something
22:22.57OluapPlayerSo a dhampir man would be stronger than others but being on the sun would make him uncomfortable
22:23.10OluapPlayerand he'd probably not like garlic on his food
22:23.34OluapPlayeraka you'll never quote until i nag u to
22:23.36OluapPlayeru shite
22:23.45XhoSkaurovirn vampires
22:23.49XhoNow that's
22:23.52XhoActually quite redundant
22:23.58XhoLet's not do that
22:24.06ImperiosOluapPlayer: Quote
22:24.07Imperiosd
22:24.29OluapPlayerwuts that mean
22:24.57XhoSeptimus - funny thing about humans          they preach human values            and then they speak our language
22:25.17Imperios"Twilight won't sparkle. Neither won't the new moon sparkle. Eclipse shall annihilate both. Breaking dawn shall annihilate both."
22:25.40Imperios*Neither will
22:25.46HachimanFuck off with your Twilight shit hur
22:26.03ImperiosIt's the anti-vampire spell
22:26.17OluapPlayerOkay I left a note for vampire babies
22:26.19OluapPlayercus ur all gross
22:26.24Xho"Aurora amb annihilat"     Longinus - [PRAISE AUR INTENSIFIES ]
22:26.26Hachimani wanna fug da vampire grill
22:26.29ImperiosPresumably it works by taking vampiric magic,  corrupting and perverting it into something completely terrifying and wrong and then sending it baack
22:26.32HachimanAurora - u wat
22:26.51ImperiosSo turning a vampire into a Twilight vampire which will then, unable to endure such a miserable condition, die horribly
22:26.54XhoLonginus - PRAISE THE SUN GODDESS
22:27.35XhoThat makes me wonder whether Orichalcum Elves are able to contract vampirism on the basis that they're walking lanterns
22:27.38HachimanI'm a little sad you left out that vampires cannot walk into people's residences uninvited hur
22:27.59ImperiosThis reminds me
22:28.02OluapPlayerI don't see that happening
22:28.11OluapPlayerMaybe in peasantry myth, but not actually real
22:28.11ImperiosI am still not sure if the ruler of Cama'zotz is a vampire or not
22:28.29HachimanCama'zotz, aka Aztec Camelot
22:28.32ImperiosMaybe peasants usually faced vampires coming from foreign lands, which were usually more civilised and polite
22:28.53ImperiosAnd they mistook their politeness for vampiric weakness
22:29.08ImperiosAnd vampires just felt it'd be rude to enter a house uninvited
22:29.11Hachimaninb4 it's a tale perpetuated by peasants so that if a peasant becomes a vampire, he'll believe in his own false weakness
22:29.18ImperiosOr that
22:29.21OluapPlayerVampires are not really organized, except for Nightshade Clan vampires which don't attack people
22:29.45OluapPlayerAlso, playing The Witcher kinda made me want to create non-sapient vampires, but that might conflict with the Purebloods I already made
22:29.57ImperiosAren't Purebloods smart
22:30.01HachimanIs that why you included a note about feral vampires?
22:30.04OluapPlayerYes
22:30.07OluapPlayerTo both
22:30.24ImperiosAlso I'm talking about how vampires actually act, I'm talking about how the myth, in-universe, could have originated
22:30.28OluapPlayerPurebloods are sapient, and I'm talking about feral dumb animal-tier vampires
22:30.30Imperios*not
22:30.45OluapPlayerThe Witcher has a couple of those
22:30.57ImperiosBut both would look like ghouls so there'd be some confusion
22:31.06HachimanOoh, ghouls
22:31.08HachimanAnd vampire pawns
22:31.14ImperiosWait by non-sapient vampires do you mean like vampire animals
22:31.19ImperiosOr just stupid humanoid vampires
22:31.25OluapPlayerThe latter
22:31.34OluapPlayerImagine a big non-sapient bat monster
22:31.37ImperiosCould be the result of a vampire *not* feeding well
22:31.51ImperiosStops feeding -> loses his mind
22:32.02ImperiosOr maybe they're like blood elves
22:32.10HachimanThat's exactly what he wrote on the page you dingus
22:32.10ImperiosBecome feral if unable to control their bloodlust
22:32.16Imperiosoh wai
22:32.31OluapPlayerWell I could expand on that and say they become monsters
22:32.39OluapPlayerWith what Imp just said
22:32.50Imperios" Become feral if unable to control their bloodlust"
22:32.51ImperiosThat?
22:33.07OluapPlayerYes
22:33.10OluapPlayerIn The Witcher, there are lesser vampires, who have animal-level intelligence and look like monsters, and higher vampires who look like the classical Dracula and are very stupidly powerful
22:33.12HachimanWhen a vampire and a werewolf love each other very much...
22:33.17HachimanA Mary Sue is born
22:33.30OluapPlayerVampire werewolves are a canon thing so
22:33.53HachimanTrue though I imagine most of them are not a result of vampire-werewolf fucking hur
22:34.07OluapPlayerWell no, they're werewolves who got bitten by a vampire
22:34.18Imperioshttp://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/wow.gamepedia.com/a/a0/Vor'na_the_Wretched.jpg Sort of like this except vampire rather than magic
22:34.18Hachimanwat bout vampires who got bit by werewolf
22:34.20Xhoor perhaps vampires bitten by werewolves
22:34.21Xhoc
22:34.35Xhomagical hands
22:34.43Imperioshttp://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2015/november/WoWPanel153.jpg
22:34.49ImperiosOr these guys
22:34.54OluapPlayerno nose man
22:35.02HachimanI cannot get over how elves in Warcraft have stupidly large eyebrows
22:35.13ImperiosThey even retained that trait in the movies
22:35.22Imperioswell the movie
22:36.04ImperiosAnd yes there could be vampire slaves
22:36.09Imperioshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtjCVRm2DAM What this fair lady described
22:36.27OluapPlayerCompare http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/witcher/images/c/c3/Tw3_journal_fleder.png/revision/latest?cb=20160605100142
22:36.28OluapPlayerwith http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/witcher/images/b/b5/Tw3_journal_dettlaff_vampire.png/revision/latest?cb=20160601042441
22:36.49HachimanThat fucking movie
22:37.08Xhogeorge clooney wtf
22:37.21HachimanOluapPlayer: Anthro Zubat and Long Nails Mann
22:37.47OluapPlayerLong Nails Mann who's like the most powerful monster in the setting that's not a dragon
22:37.51ImperiosHachiman: Actually since I have Zran Kar-worshipping Freelanders
22:37.57Xhoneeds more dragons lol
22:37.58JepardiWell to be honest, Dettlaff's true form looks much different
22:38.19OluapPlayerhttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/witcher/images/4/4c/Tw3_journal_detlaff_monster.png/revision/latest?cb=20160608162826 yes that's closer to a Vurdalak
22:38.22ImperiosMight as well make their leader a Santanico Pandemonico expy
22:38.36HachimanHoly shit
22:38.45XhoI misread that as 'Santorakh Panda'
22:38.48HachimanHow horrifying
22:39.29ImperiosXho: I guess Santorakh could take the form of Salma Hayek
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22:39.30ImperiosOR a Panda
22:39.36ImperiosOr Salma Hayek Panda
22:39.40Xhopls no
22:39.42ImperiosAs in Salma Hayek with panda ears or something
22:40.07XhoSantorakh's ultimate form is a neko girl
22:40.30HachimanSantorakh - nyan-desu~!
22:40.31XhoThat is quite feasible which is the most horrifying part of it
22:40.36OluapPlayerStill Witcher vampires are a good inspiration of how vampires should act like
22:40.50OluapPlayerOne scene in Blood and Wine has two vampires fighting, and it's awesome
22:40.54Hachimanlink dis
22:41.02OluapPlayerdfghsdfg
22:41.09ImperiosSalma is actually still kind of attractive
22:41.20HachimanXho: Reminds me of an anime where Lovecraftian entities attend a high school together and take the form of kawaii loli girls
22:41.24Imperioshttp://media.finnkino.fi/1012/Event_10377/gallery/TaleOfTales_800a.jpg That's one of the new movies she stars in
22:41.30ImperiosShe's like 40 or 50 here or something
22:41.46Imperiosalmost 50
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22:42.17HachimanNyaruko: Crawling with Love, it was called
22:42.24HachimanNyaruko being Nyarlathotep
22:42.41OluapPlayerHachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Td_aETp4I
22:42.50Hachimanaka the most objectively evil and manipulative fucker in the Mythos
22:44.06ImperiosHm
22:44.16ImperiosShould I make the ruler of Cama'zotz a vampire
22:44.39Imperioshttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/23/Lady_A%27haw_the_Opulent.png/revision/latest?cb=20150305172128 That's her
22:45.01HachimanOluapPlayer: The old guy is Remus, right?
22:45.06HachimanOr whatever the guy's name was
22:45.09OluapPlayerRegis
22:45.12HachimanThat's it
22:47.27Hachiman>Summoning bats and launching them
22:47.56HachimanNeeds more turning into bats or controlling bat swarms bullshittery in the Fantasyverse hur
22:48.05ImperiosActually I wonder what faction do Freelander vampires belong to
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22:49.00OluapPlayerThemsleves?
22:49.08The_RandomnessHello
22:49.16ImperiosI think so
22:49.40ImperiosThey've probably broken all of their ties with the Clan, if they had any, when they renounced Zran
22:50.14OluapPlayerThey're probably too far south to have any ties with the Clan
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22:54.31The_RandomnessWormy_ DrodoEmpire Quark8: I'll be on for a while if you want to do collabverse stuff
22:54.38DrodoEmpirekk
22:55.16Wormy_Cool, I'm occupied atm, but maybe in a bit
22:55.20The_Randomnesscool
22:56.53The_RandomnessUntil then I'll continue feeding my Extra History addiction
22:58.07Hachimanayy
22:58.26HachimanWhich history you on?
22:58.37The_RandomnessCurrently watching the series on Suleiman
22:59.31The_RandomnessI may have stayed up until about 3:30 this morning watching the series on Justinian, and I watched the short series on the First Crusade earlier
23:00.17HachimanOh wow
23:00.22HachimanCan't say I blame you though
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23:00.29HachimanExtra History is just <£
23:00.30Hachiman<3
23:00.35CyrannianHai
23:00.38HachimanHi
23:00.39The_RandomnessHey
23:00.46The_RandomnessThe series on Justinian gave me a bunch of inspiration for the campaign
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