| 00:00.11 | Hachiman | I didn't have that but I did watch the mockumentary about dragons |
| 00:00.18 | AdmiralPanda | Cyrannian: The one with the half-inch cover with a "dragon egg" mounted in the cover? |
| 00:00.21 | Monet | If you mean the one by Wizards of the Coast, I want it. |
| 00:00.22 | AdmiralPanda | half-inch thick* |
| 00:00.24 | Hachiman | Which treated them like prehistoric animals |
| 00:00.59 | Cyrannian | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragonology:_The_Complete_Book_of_Dragons - this one |
| 00:01.29 | Hachiman | >Dr. Ernest Drake |
| 00:01.34 | AdmiralPanda | oh that one, fuck yes I had that one |
| 00:04.55 | Cyrannian | I also had one about Aliens from the same series, though it wasn't as good |
| 00:05.31 | Liquid_Ink | I have the Wizard one |
| 00:06.59 | Wormy_ | Birds look bloody strange with beaks photoshopped out. |
| 00:07.24 | Hachiman | Most things look strange with their mouths photoshopped out |
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| 00:08.21 | Wormy_ | thats true |
| 00:08.35 | Charles_Bot | Welp, my page just got briefed |
| 00:08.46 | Charles_Bot | Fiction:French Empire |
| 00:09.05 | Charles_Bot | [[Fiction:French Empire]] |
| 00:09.15 | OluapPlayer | >Spunky Sam |
| 00:09.22 | OluapPlayer | united states of spunk |
| 00:09.57 | DrodoEmpire | sounds pretty ghey <.< |
| 00:10.14 | Hachiman | Sounds pretty spunky |
| 00:10.19 | OluapPlayer | he wants YOU, if you get my drift |
| 00:10.20 | Hachiman | I like a guy with spunk |
| 00:10.29 | Wormy_ | Cyrannian: I still have that book btw |
| 00:11.28 | AdmiralPanda | I still remember the uproarious laughter in the room when Tracer was described as "full of spunk" |
| 00:11.44 | Hachiman | Fucking kek |
| 00:12.22 | Wormy_ | g2g bye |
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| 01:01.25 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 01:02.20 | Hellrock | Hello |
| 01:02.27 | dino82_ | hi |
| 01:12.06 | Hellrock | When it's often quiet like this in the IRC I liken it to this |
| 01:12.10 | Hellrock | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgso3Y-l0h8 |
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| 08:03.33 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 08:12.43 | Charles_Murray | test |
| 08:12.53 | Charles_Murray | Good morning, Wormy_ |
| 08:13.02 | Charles_Murray | It's 1:12 am here :) |
| 08:16.12 | Wormy_ | Good morning too, really |
| 08:16.30 | Wormy_ | 09:16 |
| 08:16.35 | Wormy_ | am |
| 08:28.13 | ImpyDroid2 | Hi |
| 08:28.25 | ImpyDroid2 | Good Night/Morning, bro |
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| 09:07.02 | Wormydroid | Hi |
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| 09:20.31 | Wormydroid_ | Received proofs of a beer mat design I made and they will now go into production, for the show I'm working on. |
| 09:23.41 | Wormydroid_ | They have infographics explaining important molecules of beer and beer production, and advertise mysrlf on the other side |
| 09:30.30 | Wormydroid_ | I don't understand pop music fanaticism http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36457629/kanye-west-secret-gig-is-cancelled-after-chaotic-scenes-in-new-york |
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| 09:39.28 | Wormydroid_ | Its a step http://m.phys.org/news/2016-06-private-venture-moon-mission.html |
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| 11:55.46 | Monet | Hello |
| 11:57.04 | Imperios | Well I got an A |
| 11:57.05 | Imperios | ^^ |
| 11:59.22 | Technobliterator | \o/ |
| 11:59.57 | Monet | *insert happy Aisan father sterotype here* |
| 12:00.10 | Monet | But seriously nice one. |
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| 13:13.17 | ImpyDroid | Monet: https://i.imgur.com/KJCrXez.png |
| 13:20.22 | Monet | Funyn but Leave's machine ain't much better |
| 13:28.39 | Monet | (stuff said I mean) |
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| 13:33.18 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 13:33.30 | Monet | hi |
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| 13:58.09 | Tek0516 | HoI4 release day. :D |
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| 13:59.26 | Cyrannian | Hello everyone |
| 14:00.12 | Monet | Hello |
| 14:01.50 | Cyrannian | So the featured articles for June are: the Talven Empire, Earath, Apotheosis and the Radeon |
| 14:11.06 | Imperios | Absolutely halal |
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| 14:11.53 | Cyrannian | ~smash OluapPlayer |
| 14:11.53 | infobot | ACTION flings an anvil in OluapPlayer's general direction |
| 14:12.10 | OluapPlayer | ~explode Cyrannian |
| 14:12.11 | infobot | ACTION blows up Cyrannian with bombs |
| 14:12.39 | Cyrannian | Do people think putting the featured mainspace article up to a vote is a good idea each month? Might inspire more interest in the mainspace |
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| 14:13.45 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
| 14:14.48 | Monet | hi |
| 14:15.03 | OluapPlayer | I don't mind either way |
| 14:15.04 | OluapPlayer | hi |
| 14:16.02 | Cyrannian | I'd be in the favour of it, but it's hard enough to get people to nominate fictions let alone the inactive mainspace |
| 14:33.11 | ImpyDroid | It is not inactive if no new data are arriving |
| 14:33.19 | ImpyDroid | The game does not receive any updates |
| 14:34.47 | Cyrannian | Indeed, but in terms of aesthetics there's always room for improvement. Plus, you'd be surprised how many pages still have content from before the launch of the game. |
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| 14:45.36 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 14:45.58 | Hachiman | Imperios / ImpyDroid: "Mother of Russians; Khaleesinikov" |
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| 15:04.36 | Wormydroid | Hi |
| 15:04.59 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 15:05.08 | Wormydroid | Just went out and bought loads of beer for my final year show |
| 15:13.27 | Wormydroid | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-36443264. Two braincells, but probably wired in a complex way |
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| 15:28.30 | Wormydroid | Hi |
| 15:29.58 | TheDinoHunter | hi |
| 15:30.23 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 15:31.02 | TheDinoHunter | Hi |
| 15:44.22 | Imperios | Hachiman: Husband of Khal Ivan Drago |
| 15:48.06 | Imperios | Speaking of which |
| 15:48.20 | Imperios | Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dZTAufSh58 GoT theme played in a Ukrainian factory |
| 15:49.10 | Hachiman | But why |
| 15:50.04 | Imperios | Because pretty industrial background and all that |
| 15:50.39 | Hachiman | Ah |
| 15:51.18 | Hachiman | Also, I am coming to realize now that I am reading more articles on them that the Kurds seem to be cool |
| 15:56.40 | Hachiman | Technobliterator: FF XII is getting remastered for the PS4 under the title "Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age" |
| 15:56.53 | Technobliterator | Yup, I heard |
| 15:56.54 | Technobliterator | I'm so hyped :D |
| 15:57.03 | Technobliterator | FFXII is my tied favourite one |
| 15:57.12 | Technobliterator | and the graphics look amazing |
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| 16:00.10 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 16:01.36 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 16:01.39 | Monet | Hello |
| 16:03.08 | Hachiman | Also how fitting that I got the top comment on a UNILAD post about sex robots |
| 16:05.10 | Imperios | Druzes best tho |
| 16:05.54 | Hachiman | Druzes? |
| 16:06.39 | Imperios | The weird Islamic sect living in Israel and, if my memory does not fail me, Lebanon |
| 16:06.57 | Imperios | They believe in reincarnation and are extremely belligerent because of that, as they do not fear death |
| 16:07.09 | Imperios | They are however aligned with Israel |
| 16:07.32 | Hachiman | Huh |
| 16:12.06 | Tek0516 | Woo. HoI4 is out |
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| 16:44.00 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 16:45.41 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 16:46.38 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 17:04.28 | Imperios | Monet: I just realised |
| 17:04.42 | Imperios | There's a top quote on Oniron Voxis's page |
| 17:04.46 | Imperios | "I came into the galaxy screaming, and by Drakon that's how i'm going out!" |
| 17:05.04 | Imperios | Do Draconis hatchlings even cry when born? I mean, they hatch from eggs |
| 17:05.44 | Monet | Yes. |
| 17:06.10 | Monet | Its a way of contacting the mother. |
| 17:08.08 | Imperios | ...Wait, nevermind |
| 17:08.13 | Imperios | I'm being dumb right now |
| 17:08.15 | Imperios | Dunno why |
| 17:08.35 | Wormy_ | screaming eggs |
| 17:14.58 | Imperios | I decided to watch Jupiter Ascending |
| 17:15.06 | Imperios | Okay I'm definitely being dumb today |
| 17:15.28 | Ghelae | Watching Jupiter Ascending isn't that dumb. |
| 17:16.12 | Ghelae | I finally watched Interstellar on Saturday. |
| 17:18.15 | Imperios | ...Did you just compare Interstellar and Jupiter Ascending |
| 17:18.18 | Monet | I consider it a very pretty-looking turd. |
| 17:18.24 | Monet | JA I mean |
| 17:18.48 | Imperios | I knew I mentioned this like 3 times but |
| 17:18.50 | Imperios | Fucking |
| 17:18.59 | Imperios | Stars in the center of Saint-Petersburg |
| 17:19.17 | Imperios | Mathematicians from the Saint-Petersburg State University meeting near the Neva, as opposed to the Peterhof |
| 17:19.29 | Imperios | Clear sky in Saint-Petersburg |
| 17:19.38 | Imperios | *in the middle of Saint-Petersburg |
| 17:19.40 | Imperios | REEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 17:20.29 | Imperios | I mean |
| 17:21.02 | Imperios | How come of all American movies, Saint-Petersburg is shown in Jupiter Ascending, of all places |
| 17:21.50 | Hachiman | You think that's the stupidest thing about Jupiter Ascending |
| 17:22.35 | Imperios | That's the first thing in the movie |
| 17:22.55 | Imperios | The movie has just begun and I am already enraged |
| 17:23.00 | Monet | WHen the very beginning of the movie screws up its often jsut downhill from there. |
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| 17:24.48 | Ghelae | Hello. You've joined us for Imperios' running commentary on Jupiter Ascending. |
| 17:25.01 | Imperios | Okat fucking birth scene |
| 17:25.18 | Xho | NO |
| 17:25.19 | Xho | nooo |
| 17:25.22 | Xho | NOOOOOOH |
| 17:25.23 | Imperios | Okay that space palace thing looks pretty |
| 17:25.41 | Xho | guys its 2hot |
| 17:26.13 | Xho | OluapPlayer: y u ill |
| 17:26.38 | OluapPlayer | how would I know |
| 17:26.41 | Imperios | The costumes look pretty |
| 17:29.49 | Xho | Well it's 26 C here and I'm melting |
| 17:29.50 | Imperios | Xho: https://2ch.hk/po/src/16529195/14652193265970.png |
| 17:30.25 | Xho | wat |
| 17:30.29 | Xho | why is crimea a swan |
| 17:31.53 | Hachiman | It's too hot |
| 17:31.57 | Hachiman | Tempted to go grab chippo |
| 17:32.42 | Xho | wat chippo |
| 17:33.24 | Hachiman | chippo |
| 17:33.40 | Xho | WAT CHIPPO |
| 17:33.45 | Hachiman | CHIPPO |
| 17:34.47 | Hachiman | Might grab some updog too |
| 17:34.49 | Xho | I search Chippo on Google and I get a footballer |
| 17:34.57 | Xho | THE FUCK IS A CHIPPO AND UPDOG |
| 17:35.07 | Xho | AND I AIN'T FALLIN FOR THAT ONE |
| 17:35.11 | Hachiman | kek |
| 17:35.20 | Hachiman | Chippo = fish and chips |
| 17:35.50 | Xho | Why buy fish and chips in frickin' 26 C heat |
| 17:35.54 | Xho | dafuq is wrong wit u |
| 17:36.11 | Imperios | dem brits |
| 17:36.28 | Hachiman | Do you not go out to the seaside and buy food in Kent |
| 17:37.28 | Xho | I live in Southampton |
| 17:37.35 | Xho | We don't have a seaside |
| 17:37.40 | Hachiman | Oh |
| 17:37.43 | Xho | Despite the fact we're a coastal city |
| 17:37.50 | Hachiman | What the |
| 17:37.53 | Hachiman | How the fuck |
| 17:37.57 | Xho | Yeah literally it's a miles and miles of docks |
| 17:38.06 | Hachiman | Jesus Christ |
| 17:38.08 | Xho | And then a nice waterfront area with expensive apartments |
| 17:38.15 | Xho | And I went Italian there |
| 17:38.29 | Xho | Not at the apartments, but at the miles and miles |
| 17:38.41 | Xho | I didn't suddenly turn Italian looking at the apartments |
| 17:38.47 | Hachiman | olol |
| 17:38.55 | Hachiman | Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUl_o3lwCdA chippo |
| 17:39.02 | Monet | HAchiman: I livei n Kent |
| 17:39.10 | Hachiman | Ah, so you're the Kent one |
| 17:39.36 | Monet | But I'm of similar position to Xho |
| 17:39.49 | Monet | My 'coastline' is either docks or marinas. |
| 17:39.50 | Xho | CHIPP |
| 17:40.23 | Hachiman | Sussex beaches aren't much better; where I live, it's all pebble beach |
| 17:41.38 | Monet | If I want beach I can go to either Brighton or Margate. |
| 17:42.37 | Hachiman | Brighton's pretty cool |
| 17:42.47 | Hachiman | Don't have much of a reason to go there much but it's cool |
| 17:53.42 | Xho | Hachiman: >LICKS THE FUCKING FLOOR |
| 17:54.07 | Hachiman | HE LICKS. THE FUCKING. FLOOR. |
| 17:57.09 | Monet | Hachiman: I had the opportunity to study architecture at Brighton U. |
| 17:57.26 | Monet | Wasn't so sure as the place was massive and the architecture studio was stuffy |
| 18:00.10 | Hachiman | Ah, right |
| 18:01.44 | Wormy_ | No coastline, but my town has a muddy rover with cowpats the locals affectionally rever to as the beach |
| 18:01.51 | Wormy_ | *river |
| 18:02.13 | Xho | OluapPlayer: u too ill for sparky |
| 18:02.40 | Wormy_ | Fish and chips are popular though, with mushy peas and gravy |
| 18:02.49 | OluapPlayer | I can do it but don't expect me to talk much |
| 18:02.58 | Xho | Hm |
| 18:03.01 | Xho | Best not then |
| 18:03.33 | OluapPlayer | My throat has been hurting since friday, it's got so bad I lost my voice today |
| 18:04.04 | Hachiman | >mushy peas |
| 18:04.10 | Hachiman | Keep your cowpat food away from me |
| 18:06.35 | Hachiman | "If I identify as 14,600,000 miles of salt water, can I be trans-Atlantic?" |
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| 18:07.56 | Wormy_ | Don't insult the Midlander's best cuisine |
| 18:09.31 | Hachiman | Peas are just decoration, you're not supposed to eat them# |
| 18:10.28 | Wormy_ | but they're mashed http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OnGfZn9PZNs/UA6xymLXukI/AAAAAAAABzc/BIM5_h8w7tE/s1600/P1010193.JPG |
| 18:10.30 | Xho | OluapPlayer: shit hurts brah |
| 18:10.57 | Xho | Wormy_: You see mashed peas, I see 666 |
| 18:11.16 | OluapPlayer | I've not had a good night's sleep in days |
| 18:11.20 | Wormy_ | they taste nothing like normal peas though, all creamy |
| 18:11.25 | OluapPlayer | It hurts in a rather absurd way |
| 18:11.35 | Wormy_ | That being said, I can't stand peas mixing with anything |
| 18:11.35 | Xho | Well |
| 18:11.48 | Xho | I would suggest eating |
| 18:11.50 | Ghelae | Wormy_: They taste nothing like normal peas; they taste even worse. |
| 18:11.59 | Xho | Sometimes breaking the pain barrier is the best way to get over it |
| 18:12.02 | Xho | Had to do that last year |
| 18:12.33 | OluapPlayer | dats y ur not a doctor |
| 18:12.47 | Xho | im half-indian therefore half-doctor |
| 18:12.52 | Xho | or perhaps half-taxi driver |
| 18:12.53 | Hachiman | I was gonna say that he is Indian |
| 18:12.55 | Hachiman | olol |
| 18:12.58 | Hachiman | Half-uber |
| 18:13.05 | Xho | Ubertron |
| 18:13.14 | Xho | Half-Indian Transformer |
| 18:14.02 | Wormy_ | As an Ubertron mechanic, a Transformer Surgeon |
| 18:14.14 | Wormy_ | *So |
| 18:14.35 | Imperios | Xho: A Transformer medic that transforms into a taxi cab |
| 18:14.43 | Xho | "no free rides" |
| 18:14.44 | Imperios | Also has multiple arms |
| 18:15.32 | Wormy_ | Some people bathe in mushy peas http://www.abbiesfund.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Jessica-01-180x176.jpg |
| 18:15.40 | Imperios | Russian Transformers have small Minicons with them that turn into dashcams |
| 18:15.50 | Imperios | And attack by crashing into their enemies while in car mode |
| 18:26.26 | Imperios | Okay time to watch Jupiter Ascending again |
| 18:26.28 | Imperios | BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES |
| 18:27.25 | Imperios | Hachiman: https://2ch.hk/aa/src/84570/14571439845770.jpg |
| 18:28.09 | Hachiman | That or she's just a really boring dom |
| 18:29.51 | Hachiman | Also I see a fucking ribcage in my KFC one piece |
| 18:30.30 | Monet | I don't eat KFC. |
| 18:30.39 | Cyrannian | ugh it's too warm guise |
| 18:30.47 | Imperios | Neither do I, most of the time |
| 18:30.49 | Monet | Hachiman's experience is why |
| 18:30.50 | Imperios | KFC is worst |
| 18:31.48 | OluapPlayer | You all complain it's too hot, meanwhile the cold and rain here just make my throat hurt harder |
| 18:32.09 | Wormy_ | Imperios: Why do these people have an exclamation mark in their name? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C7%83Kung_people |
| 18:32.19 | Imperios | It's a click consonant |
| 18:32.26 | Xho | Us brits do not fare well the heat |
| 18:32.34 | Xho | We don't fare well in the cold either |
| 18:32.37 | Imperios | The exclamation marks represent clicks |
| 18:32.44 | Imperios | It's a Khoisan/South African thing |
| 18:33.05 | Imperios | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6WO5XabD-s |
| 18:33.06 | Xho | "The "!K" in the name "ÇKung" is a click that sounds something like a cork pulled from a bottle." |
| 18:33.18 | Cyrannian | Anything above 20 C is bleh |
| 18:33.20 | Xho | Néva - u fukn callin our language drunk |
| 18:33.42 | OluapPlayer | Pelagrios - yes |
| 18:33.55 | Wormy_ | I see now, thank you. I wouldn't know where to start in producing that sound. |
| 18:34.03 | Xho | Wormy_: Think tsk tsk |
| 18:34.09 | Xho | That's a kind of click consonant |
| 18:34.14 | Imperios | What Xho said |
| 18:34.15 | Xho | Although not the same one as ! |
| 18:34.19 | Hachiman | http://i.imgur.com/okq9qam.jpg Why the fuck is there a ribcage in my KFC |
| 18:34.35 | Wormy_ | Yeah I meant the cork bottle one |
| 18:34.37 | Xho | Wormy_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click_consonant |
| 18:34.37 | Imperios | It's a demon chickehn |
| 18:34.45 | Xho | It's a pop sound from the roof of one's mouth |
| 18:35.10 | Wormy_ | Oh, right. I guess I can |
| 18:40.45 | Xho | I made the Néva language because of my interest on click consonants |
| 18:44.08 | Xho | Although it has some real nasty non-pulmonics as well |
| 18:54.02 | Xho | The Skeltadraskeli language I made has a few as well |
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| 18:55.34 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 18:55.54 | Treebeard | Hello |
| 18:57.20 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 19:03.52 | Hachiman | Xho: So Ringu and Ju-On are getting a crossover horror film on June 18th |
| 19:04.04 | Hachiman | Entitled 'Sadako vs. Kayako' |
| 19:05.10 | Xho | y u |
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| 19:36.53 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 19:37.18 | The_Randomness | Hey |
| 19:37.18 | Tek0516 | Hey DrodoEmpire |
| 19:37.24 | Tek0516 | HoI4 day. :D |
| 19:37.34 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I saw you on it |
| 19:38.05 | Tek0516 | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/p64t5CbP/20160606153243_1.jpg So this is what happens if you try to stop Rhineland apparently. XD |
| 19:39.01 | Tek0516 | Basically you die if you don't get lucky. :P |
| 19:39.57 | DrodoEmpire | Oh wow |
| 19:40.28 | Tek0516 | ...oh wow. |
| 19:40.30 | Tek0516 | Um... |
| 19:40.52 | Tek0516 | I called for Britain... and failed. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/qiGZhrjk/20160606153942_1.jpg |
| 19:41.07 | Tek0516 | ...and then I won. O.o https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/KpRqWCq5/20160606153952_1.jpg |
| 19:41.50 | DrodoEmpire | Oh wow |
| 19:43.09 | Tek0516 | I did not expect that to happen. |
| 19:46.55 | Tek0516 | I need to show this to Charles. :P |
| 19:47.16 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 19:51.31 | Treebeard | Hitler ordered his troops to withdraw if they met any opposition |
| 20:09.46 | Tek0516 | France's politics are really unstable in this. I just got an election event that either will raise the communists to 40% popularity or cut my national unity even more. |
| 20:10.17 | DrodoEmpire | Jesus |
| 20:10.35 | ImpyDroid | Xho: Eddie Redmayne is fucking hilarious in Jupiter |
| 20:10.36 | Tek0516 | O.o My national unity is only 20% right now |
| 20:13.06 | Tek0516 | You don't even need Paris to beat me right now |
| 20:15.11 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: So the question is do let the communists get to 40% popularity or let my national unity drop to 15%. |
| 20:17.35 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm |
| 20:17.49 | DrodoEmpire | Well doesn't seem like your unity could get much worse |
| 20:17.53 | DrodoEmpire | Take the hit there? |
| 20:20.59 | Tek0516 | At least I can get some boosts from national focuses |
| 20:32.16 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: this game wants France to lose. >.< I can basically lose all industry and national unity for 90 days or get a boost to communists and lose some industry for 90 days. |
| 20:32.31 | DrodoEmpire | Ouch... |
| 20:33.07 | Tek0516 | I think I might try someone more stable. :P |
| 20:55.27 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: UK or Canada, what should I try? :P |
| 20:58.39 | DrodoEmpire | Canada <.< |
| 20:59.56 | Xho | ImpyDroid: terrible film 0/0 |
| 21:00.37 | ImpyDroid | So... so terrible it can be given any rating? |
| 21:00.49 | ImpyDroid | Or does it like |
| 21:00.53 | ImpyDroid | Create a black hole? |
| 21:02.10 | Ghelae | Or it could be the limit of some quotient of functions, e.g. sin(x)/x. |
| 21:02.49 | The_Randomness | L'Hôpital's rule ftw |
| 21:27.23 | ImpyDroid | Ohgod |
| 21:27.24 | ImpyDroid | Limits |
| 21:27.26 | ImpyDroid | Calculus |
| 21:27.36 | ImpyDroid | L'Hopital's rule |
| 21:27.40 | ImpyDroid | NOOOOOOOOO |
| 21:27.52 | ImpyDroid | There were also these two rules |
| 21:28.17 | DrodoAway | math discussion |
| 21:28.22 | DrodoAway | good time for me to leave <.< |
| 21:28.49 | Xho | aye |
| 21:29.33 | Ghelae | ImpyDroid: So Jupiter Ascending = lim{x->0} sin(x)/10cos(x) |
| 21:29.49 | ImpyDroid | MY EYES |
| 21:29.51 | ImpyDroid | NOOOOOO |
| 21:30.19 | ImpyDroid | Wait isn't that defined through these 1/x + 1/x^3 et cetera bullshit |
| 21:30.32 | ImpyDroid | *bullshit formulae |
| 21:30.32 | Ghelae | You can do. |
| 21:30.51 | Ghelae | But it's actually easier than that because cos(0) is not 0. |
| 21:31.13 | The_Randomness | ^ |
| 21:31.17 | Ghelae | So that isn't actually 0/0. Oops. |
| 21:31.21 | The_Randomness | this limit is just 0 |
| 21:31.23 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 21:31.39 | ImpyDroid | Guys how did you even manage to understand that in the first place |
| 21:31.39 | The_Randomness | omg |
| 21:31.47 | ImpyDroid | I forgot that in half a year |
| 21:31.52 | The_Randomness | new Crash Course Philosophy video |
| 21:32.17 | ImpyDroid | ...at least I know four languages |
| 21:32.25 | Ghelae | I've had four years of maths and physics in this degree. I'm not going to forget the zeroes of sin and cos easily. |
| 21:32.27 | Xho | fuk u language boy |
| 21:32.37 | The_Randomness | yeah, basically what Ghelae said |
| 21:33.20 | ImpyDroid | For some reason I sucked at calculus especially when it came to theory but performed relatively well during practical tasks |
| 21:33.48 | Xho | I wish I knew more languages but unfortunately I'm of that age and situation where education isn't an option |
| 21:33.54 | ImpyDroid | I am also apparently the best in my group at probability theory, which is weird |
| 21:34.18 | ImpyDroid | Because otherwise I suck at everything that does not involve computers |
| 21:37.03 | Xho | What about languages |
| 21:38.11 | Ghelae | 0/0 = lim{x->0} (1-cos(x))/10sin(x) there you go. |
| 21:38.49 | Ghelae | The 10 is unnecessary but it's traditional to rate things out of ten. |
| 21:39.23 | Xho | i rate it 5/7 |
| 21:39.45 | Ghelae | = lim{x->0} x+5/7 |
| 21:39.59 | ImpyDroid | Xho: When compared to the rest of my group |
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| 21:40.21 | ImpyDroid | I have above average grasp of English compared to my groupmates and an average grasp of French |
| 21:40.25 | ImpyDroid | Hi Tybusen |
| 21:40.33 | ImpyDroid | Maybe even below average dunno |
| 21:40.45 | Tybusen | Hello |
| 21:40.51 | Tybusen | Bonjour |
| 21:40.56 | ImpyDroid | *an above average |
| 21:41.07 | ImpyDroid | ...Still got an A for it ^^ |
| 21:41.11 | ImpyDroid | Hon hon hon |
| 21:41.59 | Tybusen | *le baguette intensifies* |
| 21:42.02 | ImpyDroid | Tybusen: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sxeSjfC--Eg/maxresdefault.jpg I bet you'd be among these fellas |
| 21:42.28 | Tybusen | Come on and slam |
| 21:42.47 | Xho | Language wise I've got a fair grasp of Spanish and Japanese and varying degrees of proficiency in a myriad of others, most of which aren't actually even used any more |
| 21:43.11 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 21:43.50 | Xho | I have too much time on my hands basically |
| 21:45.35 | ImpyDroid | Where do these "Behead those who oppose Islam" guys even come from |
| 21:45.48 | ImpyDroid | Are they protesting in Europe or the Middle East |
| 21:45.49 | Monet | Speaking of time have a random picture http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/257082843854720356/6264B213CF84F22050BF23628029D761BF595957/ |
| 21:46.11 | Xho | Monet: average SporeWiki crew |
| 21:46.55 | Monet | Xho: No one really minds the lady who looks like a fucking demon. |
| 21:47.14 | Xho | professional killer professional killer FUCKING DEMON professional killer |
| 21:47.22 | Xho | See average SporeWiki crew |
| 21:47.55 | Monet | I think the guys on the far left and right look like elite soldiers. |
| 21:48.15 | Monet | Imagine that lot coming out of LS's flagship bank. |
| 21:48.49 | ImpyDroid | Like if these "Behead everyone" guys are protesting in Europe |
| 21:48.58 | ImpyDroid | Why don't you send troops at them |
| 21:49.52 | Monet | Cop - Central I request backup at the Paciic Standard. For hostiles heavily armed and well-equipped. | Central - Can you confirm identities | Cop - I think one of them is Lilith. |
| 21:50.07 | ImpyDroid | Like it is a call for violence |
| 21:50.16 | Xho | Because in a gobalised sociopolitical climate such as this you can't do anything vaguely militaristic without diplomatic scrutiny |
| 21:51.04 | ImpyDroid | If people call for violence people ought to do something |
| 21:51.13 | Xho | Maybe in Russia |
| 21:51.52 | Xho | Unfortunately the EU is in such of a economic and sociopolitical deadlock at the moment that any action taken is sure to make shit hit the fan |
| 21:52.31 | Monet | EU: So determined for the peaceful solution that its terrified of using the violent option. |
| 21:52.48 | ImpyDroid | Why not both |
| 21:53.09 | Xho | #Russia |
| 21:53.40 | Xho | Unfortunately elements that transcend a political perspective always dictate that peaceful solutions are finite |
| 21:53.52 | Xho | It's only a matter of time before the violent option is undertaken |
| 21:54.09 | ImpyDroid | Why can't you raise public awareness about hate groups and preach tolerance and understanding |
| 21:54.19 | Monet | WHich frustratingly is what ISIL want. |
| 21:54.24 | ImpyDroid | While also punching hate groups in the face |
| 21:54.36 | Xho | The media of course |
| 21:54.38 | ImpyDroid | Yeah I think there needs to be balance |
| 21:54.54 | ImpyDroid | Like anger the Islamic community too much and they'll flock to ISIS |
| 21:54.58 | Xho | The heads of the newspapers and media moguls are the same people who possess offshore accounts |
| 21:55.14 | Xho | The main priority that the EU is trying to cut down on among other things is tax evasion |
| 21:55.24 | ImpyDroid | Because IS feeds on that "us and them" rhetoric |
| 21:55.28 | ImpyDroid | ...much like Trump |
| 21:55.46 | Xho | Imagine if all of a sudden these media moguls suddenly wanted to raise awareness for these things, inevitably it would bite them back |
| 21:56.04 | Monet | Reminds me of something Wisecrack talked about recently |
| 21:56.21 | Xho | Allowing hate groups to exist is a perfect attractor for attention |
| 21:56.40 | ImpyDroid | Hate breeds hate |
| 21:56.43 | Monet | We're all basically fucked but little attention is being put to avoiding or resolving what's going ot fuck us. |
| 21:56.59 | Xho | Hate breeds hate, Peace breeds hate |
| 21:57.08 | Xho | Need I go back to hegelian dialectics here |
| 21:57.14 | ImpyDroid | "Behead those who oppose Islam" nuts in turn create "Behead those who support Islam" nuts which in turn empower the former |
| 21:57.20 | ImpyDroid | And the circle goes on and on |
| 21:58.56 | Xho | It's that cycle of which the media is feeding off in regards to the EU referendum |
| 21:59.20 | Xho | There is a lot of attention drawn to the whole immigration crisis which is massively obscuring the huge economic risks |
| 21:59.52 | Monet | They're also mixing immigrants and refugees together rather unashamadly. |
| 21:59.52 | Xho | People aren't smart enough to see that and they're going to vote on the whole tribalistic value of 'no more immigrants' or a retention of identity |
| 22:00.14 | Xho | It's absolute fucking insanity to even consider leaving the EU |
| 22:00.16 | ImpyDroid | Monet: I think it is because some migrants try to pass as refugees to get in |
| 22:00.31 | ImpyDroid | But that might just be my overdosage of right wing media cos Russia |
| 22:00.40 | Xho | Think about Northern Ireland for instance |
| 22:00.43 | Cyrannian | https://www.facebook.com/theguardian/videos/506897629498005/ - Did anyone watch this? |
| 22:00.44 | DrodoEmpire | Xho: I really disagree. :p I think the UK would be better out but maybe that's my opinion |
| 22:00.55 | DrodoEmpire | ImpyDroid: No, that does happen |
| 22:01.02 | ImpyDroid | Right then |
| 22:01.14 | Xho | Massively subsidised by the EU, as soon as the chance of leaving the EU happens then NI is going to quite possibly collapse |
| 22:02.00 | Xho | And then think about the infrastructure of Scotland which has been funded by the EU |
| 22:02.00 | ImpyDroid | ...I find it hilarious how the main SJWs in this community come from right-wing nut states while the more right-wing individuals come from social democratic countries |
| 22:02.07 | Xho | As soon as another referendum for Scottish independence comes along they'll take that |
| 22:02.15 | ImpyDroid | DrodoEmpire: Why exactly? |
| 22:02.28 | DrodoEmpire | Why what? |
| 22:02.31 | ImpyDroid | Xho: I guess the elections were rigged |
| 22:02.36 | Xho | WEll |
| 22:02.36 | ImpyDroid | DrodoEmpire: Brexit |
| 22:02.41 | DrodoEmpire | Right. |
| 22:02.56 | Xho | Brexit wasn't really on the cards during the Scottish Independence thing |
| 22:03.05 | DrodoEmpire | I don't want to say too much because I can see some bullshit political debate happening I'm not in the mood for |
| 22:03.08 | Xho | Not by the media's regards anyway |
| 22:03.23 | ImpyDroid | nah political debates are cool |
| 22:03.31 | Xho | Although now I can see Scotland becoming independent |
| 22:03.33 | ImpyDroid | I do not take them personally |
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| 22:03.39 | Technobliterator | Considering the Scottish Independence thing is kind of Brexit on a smaller scale, yeah |
| 22:03.46 | DrodoEmpire | But suffice to say I dislike the EU, and its supposed benefits to the UK are massively overstated |
| 22:03.59 | DrodoEmpire | The Uk would be fine without the EU |
| 22:04.04 | ImpyDroid | C conservative Drodo |
| 22:04.12 | ImpyDroid | This reminds me |
| 22:04.14 | DrodoEmpire | Yes, to a point. |
| 22:04.25 | ImpyDroid | DrodoEmpire: Remember what you said about the hajj? |
| 22:04.30 | Xho | DrodoEmpire: Economically it's going to be unstable undeniably for a while but there is a chance we can brave it |
| 22:04.46 | Xho | It's not the whole economic risks that come with it |
| 22:04.47 | DrodoEmpire | Oh yeah there'll be short-term difficulties |
| 22:04.54 | Monet_2 | In the short term it will be dangerous. In the long-term who knows? |
| 22:04.54 | Xho | I really do not want to be stuck on this island with the Conservatives |
| 22:04.58 | DrodoEmpire | But I think its worth it as I see the EU as a sinking ship |
| 22:05.00 | ImpyDroid | The reason I do not believe rituals like the hajj should be criticised - though they can - is because not everyone can fully understand the complexity and the meaning of them |
| 22:05.13 | Xho | My general opinion of the EU is mixed |
| 22:05.35 | ImpyDroid | I mean one has to be at least moderately educated in theology of any particular religion to adequately question and criticise its beliefs |
| 22:05.36 | Xho | Whilst I appreciate the whole cooperative effort that is the EU, it's a financial shistorm |
| 22:05.44 | Wormy_ | Cannot be certain of that Drodo. I take a more moderate opinion of actually "I don't know wtf is the best decision", we're stuck between a rock and a hard place. Whatever happens, we'll have an island of Conservatives, or be part of undemocratic Conservative union. |
| 22:06.01 | Monet_2 | Xho: I think a lot of people preferred Europe when it was the EEA. |
| 22:06.11 | DrodoEmpire | When did I say I was certain, Wormy_? |
| 22:06.11 | Wormy_ | Actually its unfair to paint all Brexiters as right wing, many liberals and socialists want to vote leave. |
| 22:06.18 | Xho | Yeah |
| 22:06.19 | DrodoEmpire | I just think its the best decision |
| 22:06.20 | ImpyDroid | Unless these beliefs directly affect another community in which case you are acting in protection of its rights |
| 22:06.30 | Xho | I'd say reintroduce the currencies of the nations of the EU |
| 22:06.31 | Monet_2 | Now its become this wierd federation thing. |
| 22:06.38 | Xho | But who knows how well that would work |
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| 22:06.41 | Wormy_ | "<DrodoEmpire> The Uk would be fine without the EU" sounds like a very certain opinion to me. |
| 22:06.44 | dino82_ | hi |
| 22:06.45 | ImpyDroid | Rather than questioning the reasoning behind a certain reasoning or belief |
| 22:06.48 | Cyrannian | Dino! |
| 22:06.52 | ImpyDroid | iH |
| 22:06.52 | Monet_2 | Hello |
| 22:06.53 | DrodoEmpire | ImpyDroid: Yeah, I get that they have deep spiritual meaning and whatnot, but so? Its still a superstition. |
| 22:07.18 | DrodoEmpire | I find superstitions funny- I have no issue if people want to practice that superstition, just don't expect me to take it too seriously |
| 22:07.22 | Xho | It's also a bad time concerning what may become of the presidential election in the US |
| 22:07.25 | ImpyDroid | DrodoEmpire: Most rituals can be treated as superstition |
| 22:07.32 | DrodoEmpire | I know |
| 22:07.37 | Xho | We don't know how the UK would respond to Donald Trump in the event of him becoming POTUS |
| 22:07.54 | DrodoEmpire | I find many rituals funny- Some are useful, some are silly, I don't care either way |
| 22:07.57 | ImpyDroid | Thing is people are biased because they accept local rituals as a matter of fact while foreign rituals seem alien and senseless |
| 22:08.07 | Xho | If our foreign relations with the US take a tumble it won't be a easy few years on the diplomatic front |
| 22:08.22 | ImpyDroid | Like you would probably find our icons weird |
| 22:08.27 | Monet_2 | Trump - Hey Britoners I have this new trade idea. If you like you can look it over and I promise we won't bomb you. |
| 22:08.37 | dino82_ | Howz all dong |
| 22:08.43 | Xho | I mean Obama's presidency hasn't been necessarily excellent on the foreign relations side as far as I know |
| 22:08.49 | Xho | Hi dino |
| 22:08.53 | dino82_ | hi Xho! |
| 22:09.03 | ImpyDroid | Weren't they all aggressive since like the 1990s |
| 22:09.09 | ImpyDroid | Just in different ways |
| 22:09.19 | DrodoEmpire | ImpyDroid: You seem to assume I think Catholic or Protestant rituals/iconography are all real cool |
| 22:09.19 | ImpyDroid | (^ see Russian bias) |
| 22:09.22 | DrodoEmpire | I think its just as silly |
| 22:09.28 | Monet_2 | Xho: Obama was more popular internationally than his recent predecessors |
| 22:09.33 | DrodoEmpire | Its what I'm more familiar with and I don't care either way |
| 22:09.36 | Xho | This is true |
| 22:09.42 | Xho | That's mostly his image though |
| 22:09.56 | Xho | I don't exactly know how well he's measured in terms of success in his presidency |
| 22:09.57 | Monet_2 | True but its helped America's image a bit. |
| 22:10.02 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not really biased in that regard, and if I am I don't much care as its a silly thing to worry about |
| 22:10.17 | Monet_2 | I say a bit because of that whole NSA fiasco. |
| 22:10.23 | ImpyDroid | I find both kind of cool dunno, even though they lack a real basis they are culturally significant and gave certain values |
| 22:10.27 | Xho | Then of course we have the whole mess with Turkey joining the EU |
| 22:10.28 | ImpyDroid | *value even |
| 22:10.38 | ImpyDroid | *have |
| 22:10.44 | DrodoEmpire | I understand religion's contribution to culture. :p |
| 22:10.50 | Xho | Why Turkey is even up for consideration in regards to their human rights records is ridiculous |
| 22:10.54 | Wormy_ | The viewpoint that rituals are all about superstition comes from the Romantic period and tbh, distorts the underlying psychological and social functions. |
| 22:11.09 | ImpyDroid | Xho: Didn't Brussels agree to let kebabs in as long as they take care of the refugees |
| 22:11.15 | Xho | Yeah but |
| 22:11.23 | Xho | Why isn't the rest of the EU doing that |
| 22:11.29 | DrodoEmpire | I know about that, Wormy_, and both of you seem to be taking what I say far too seriously |
| 22:11.35 | ImpyDroid | Well they want to contribute |
| 22:11.38 | DrodoEmpire | I warned you I didn't want to get into a discussion |
| 22:11.50 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 22:11.56 | ImpyDroid | Turkey will contribute by soaking refugees which they sort of already do as they have most of them |
| 22:12.01 | Wormy_ | I merely want to add something to the discussion. |
| 22:12.05 | DrodoEmpire | Well, I warned Impy |
| 22:12.13 | DrodoEmpire | Not you, so I can't really blame you |
| 22:12.18 | ImpyDroid | Alright |
| 22:12.24 | Monet_2 | Honestly Xho I'm really not really sure on what to think about Turkey. |
| 22:12.34 | ImpyDroid | REMOOOOOOOVE |
| 22:12.39 | Xho | Basically yeah |
| 22:12.40 | Xho | remove |
| 22:12.48 | DrodoEmpire | I just know whatever I say will make someone sour so I don't even bother contributing to discussions like this |
| 22:12.53 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway |
| 22:13.35 | Xho | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Complex I mean what the heck is this |
| 22:13.39 | Monet_2 | Britain is working with enough human rights abusers at present that it feels clear to me we're not going to improve Turkey by shaming it. |
| 22:14.18 | Xho | Turkey isn't going to improve with its current politics either |
| 22:14.19 | Monet_2 | I'm doubtful Turkey will change. |
| 22:14.52 | Xho | No one likes an authoritarian government |
| 22:16.27 | Monet_2 | And the general consensus seems to be that in order to fix this we should guilt/shame them into improving. Turkey's not some bratty child its one of the old nations of Europe. |
| 22:16.56 | Xho | I suppose it's old by Europe's standards |
| 22:17.38 | Xho | Formed as a republic in 1923 |
| 22:18.32 | Monet_2 | I na way I wonder if this attitude of Wester noutcry against authoritarianism is some new form of colonial attitude. WHere we've evolved from treating colonies and extra-Euopean natives like we're their nanny to treating them like we're thheir secondary school teacher. |
| 22:18.54 | Monet_2 | nanny or mother |
| 22:18.57 | Xho | Possibly |
| 22:19.06 | Xho | Although authoritarianism isn't exactly fun to live under |
| 22:19.21 | Xho | If the Conservatives became properly authoritarian it would get heated quickly |
| 22:19.32 | DrodoEmpire | Well, I'd sooner have the west export its culture to authoritarian nations. :p |
| 22:19.50 | Xho | I mean we had full scale riots because tuition fees went up |
| 22:19.51 | DrodoEmpire | In that way it may foster some dissent in the young people and they may want to change the system |
| 22:20.08 | DrodoEmpire | Stuff like that is happening in Iran, for example |
| 22:20.29 | DrodoEmpire | If this is the new colonialism I'm fine with it. :p |
| 22:20.33 | Xho | Well Iran was fairly libertarian up until 1979 |
| 22:20.37 | Xho | I say fairly |
| 22:20.42 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah it was |
| 22:20.47 | Monet_2 | The Tories going authoritarianism is a little different. China and Malaysia are hesitant to adopt Western-style democracy because it is quite different form the COnfucian-style policies their governments are built around. |
| 22:20.50 | DrodoEmpire | But now it isn't :p |
| 22:21.00 | DrodoEmpire | People clearly want to return to that, though |
| 22:21.24 | Xho | We're democratic, yeah |
| 22:21.31 | DrodoEmpire | That, and the Communist Party is quite happy to hold power for itself (in China) :p |
| 22:21.44 | ImpyDroid | DrodoEmpire: But it was new colonialism that created the Islamic Republic |
| 22:21.45 | Xho | But when our politicians are rather blatantly corrupt and bone-headed, democracy is devalued |
| 22:21.47 | Wormy_ | As I see it, it has worked sucessfully sometimes in that authoritarian states have been undermined even without military force by democratic nations and the ideas of liberalism. But in recent decades, I think the West has shifted to neoliberalism, while also facing great complexities. Some of the revolutions in young people recently led to even more authoritarianism. |
| 22:22.04 | Monet_2 | Look at the Meiji restoraation in Japan - the Japanese adoptd Western systems and styles of uniform but kept the emperor. |
| 22:22.33 | ImpyDroid | Without the US meddling into Iranian politics, the Islamic Revolution would never have happened |
| 22:22.34 | Xho | Well Japan didn't really adhere to western culture until after WWII |
| 22:22.42 | Xho | At least not wholeheartedly |
| 22:22.55 | DrodoEmpire | Impy: Right, I know that. :p I'm focusing on the now, though |
| 22:22.56 | Monet_2 | Xho: They mostly acted like they did, yeah. |
| 22:22.57 | Xho | ImpyDroid: dam fukn muricans |
| 22:23.12 | DrodoEmpire | It doesn't *have* to be that way |
| 22:23.18 | Xho | At least our relations with Japan are pretty good |
| 22:23.21 | Xho | Could be better |
| 22:23.29 | ImpyDroid | Chances are, however, the West will just instate another dictator |
| 22:23.35 | Wormy_ | I don't like comparisons of Western democracy and colonialism, but perhaps there has been the same kind of colonial arrogance that missed the mark |
| 22:23.49 | ImpyDroid | Or just a dictator |
| 22:23.59 | ImpyDroid | I wouldn't call Iran a dictatorship |
| 22:24.08 | Monet_2 | The EMperor mainly lost msot of his power by way of the ALlies basically handing over a fistful of agreements that stripped him of everything but his symbolism. |
| 22:24.14 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not asking for "the west" to go in there and force a regime change |
| 22:24.19 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not an idiot |
| 22:24.20 | Wormy_ | Quite a good documentary about it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Nightmares https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitter_Lake_(film) |
| 22:24.22 | Xho | Iran has softened over the years I think |
| 22:24.29 | Cyrannian | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Cyrannian_Cold_War/Return_of_the_Exiles#Story - New story, take a look |
| 22:24.35 | DrodoEmpire | What needs to happen is for the people themselves to initiate change |
| 22:24.38 | DrodoEmpire | And to have that want |
| 22:24.44 | DrodoEmpire | Its happening slowly but surely |
| 22:24.51 | Monet_2 | Wormy_: "but perhaps there has been the same kind of colonial arrogance that missed the mark" that's what I'm thinking. |
| 22:25.03 | Wormy_ | yeah |
| 22:25.32 | ImpyDroid | Exactly |
| 22:25.54 | Xho | I don't know whether it's our views or missed views thereof of colonialism or is it nations such as China that aren't open as of yet to the world's culture |
| 22:25.59 | Monet_2 | The WHite Man's Burden may be lessened but let's face it, Undertones of "The West Knows Best" persist |
| 22:26.04 | Wormy_ | We're at the edge of the unknown, despite being told by the media of a simple "good vs. evil" narrative |
| 22:26.44 | Xho | Well Russia isn't viewed as a big bad by the UK anymore |
| 22:26.48 | Xho | At least by the people |
| 22:26.56 | Xho | Not as much as it was 20 years ago |
| 22:27.01 | Monet_2 | Mostly it's just Putin |
| 22:27.13 | DrodoEmpire | Right, probably because the west, in many cases, does know best. :p This doesn't justify imperialism but again it does mean westerners should export the culture of the west and its ideas out |
| 22:27.18 | Monet_2 | "Muhrican Freedom" is a good example of post-colonial arrogance. |
| 22:27.21 | Wormy_ | A lot of leftists seem to shout *for* Putin sometimes |
| 22:27.38 | DrodoEmpire | The people in the nation itself have to accept the ideas though |
| 22:27.49 | DrodoEmpire | And if they don't, then forcing it on them won't work |
| 22:27.49 | ImpyDroid | DrodoEmpire: Cultural victory |
| 22:27.54 | ImpyDroid | Make dem great works |
| 22:27.56 | Xho | Not too sure about our views on China though |
| 22:28.16 | Xho | I think it's better than it was but there's still this massive and stupid fear of us having to learn Mandarin |
| 22:28.26 | Xho | I mean it would be cool to learn Mandarin but still |
| 22:29.27 | Wormy_ | Drodo: Right, but its got to work both ways. The West also has tolerance and openness to other cultures around them. It has better systems in many ways, especially in correcting problems, but it can be wrong. Of course you put "West knows best" as a phrase so I get that. |
| 22:29.44 | Xho | Just a shame our foreign language element of our education is god awful |
| 22:29.47 | OluapPlayer | Cyrannian: Apollo - wtf u all doing jesus christ |
| 22:30.15 | Xho | There's still this huge sentiment that people who are in the UK should speak just English |
| 22:30.32 | Xho | Okay fair enough but it verges on ignorance |
| 22:30.41 | Monet_2 | DrodoEMpire: The concern is you have activists spouting rhetoric about how backwards foreign authorities are. |
| 22:30.42 | Xho | I mean in comparison to the EU, the UK has terrible language skills |
| 22:31.23 | DrodoEmpire | Monet_2: Because in so many cases foreign authorities *are* backwards. :p |
| 22:31.27 | Xho | Possibly a reason behind this whole leaving the EU palaver |
| 22:31.28 | Wormy_ | The problem I see is that a lot of authoritarian countries take some of the systems that work and cut out the rest |
| 22:31.34 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not saying people should destroy their traditional culture |
| 22:31.46 | DrodoEmpire | What I *am* saying is that they should adopt the best tenets of the west |
| 22:31.50 | Monet_2 | DrodoEmpire: True, but the messages generally lack grace or tact. |
| 22:32.14 | DrodoEmpire | But the message is there regardless, so it doesn't much bother me that it offends some people |
| 22:32.50 | Monet_2 | Calling ISIL's practices and philosophy are 'medieval' is true, but ISIL's ahderants are just going ot think the activists have their heads u ptheir asses. |
| 22:33.13 | ImpyDroid | They are not medieval as much as they are reactionary populists |
| 22:33.17 | Monet_2 | Know your enemy, know how they think, and you can conquer them. |
| 22:33.20 | DrodoEmpire | I *really* don't care if that's what ISIS adherents think, Monet. :p |
| 22:33.24 | DrodoEmpire | Or at least |
| 22:33.30 | DrodoEmpire | what they think about what they're called |
| 22:33.33 | ImpyDroid | They are similar to the Rashidun Caliphate |
| 22:33.40 | DrodoEmpire | Naturally I'm interested in their ideology |
| 22:33.51 | Tek0516 | Damnit. My laptop restarted and closed HoI4 without saving. >.< |
| 22:33.57 | DrodoEmpire | You need to know it to destroy it |
| 22:33.59 | ImpyDroid | But only in the way Mussolini's Italy was similar to Rome |
| 22:34.06 | ImpyDroid | Or Nazi Germany to HRE |
| 22:34.15 | Wormy_ | Arguably, the West isn't doing enough, and is in bed with countries that are otherwise modern but still stone women to death, and things like that must be condemned. |
| 22:34.18 | ImpyDroid | They use the Middle Ages as a symbol of the glorified past |
| 22:34.27 | Monet_2 | My point is we're going about combating them by the international equivalent of "stand in the corner and think aout what you just said young man!" |
| 22:34.30 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_: I agree |
| 22:35.01 | ImpyDroid | DrodoEmpire: Do you believe the West has to adopt elements of other civilisations too? |
| 22:35.08 | ImpyDroid | There were precedents after all |
| 22:35.20 | ImpyDroid | Like the examination system borrowed from China |
| 22:35.23 | DrodoEmpire | Good question, and the answer is... Somewhat. |
| 22:35.30 | ImpyDroid | As in? |
| 22:35.36 | DrodoEmpire | Give me a minute. |
| 22:36.08 | ImpyDroid | Monet_2: IS sang about it in one of their chants |
| 22:36.15 | DrodoEmpire | By no means should the west give up its core tenets- equality, democracy, individualism, individual rights, and so on |
| 22:36.22 | ImpyDroid | "Jihad is the way to bring back the honour of our glorious days" |
| 22:36.40 | ImpyDroid | So essentially "make the Middle East great again" |
| 22:37.01 | DrodoEmpire | But to borrow methods, administrative/technical/other practices, and technologies from other civilizations sure |
| 22:37.33 | DrodoEmpire | Art, some culture, and whatnot sure |
| 22:37.50 | Wormy_ | I think one must remember not of those core tenets and values are a means to an end and also follow their own progress. Perhaps the West will learn increasingly effective and tolerant ways of exporting those ideals. |
| 22:37.52 | Monet_2 | ImpyDroid: Very few historical villains came t orealise their methods were wrong, yes, |
| 22:37.53 | DrodoEmpire | But the core tenets of western civilization shouldn't face disruption |
| 22:37.56 | ImpyDroid | And as for certain values? |
| 22:38.02 | Wormy_ | *none of those |
| 22:38.28 | Monet_2 | THat's the damaging thing about the good/evil dictonomy; NEITHER side wants to believe it could be the bad guy. |
| 22:38.34 | ImpyDroid | I'm probably being chauvinistic here but the Sinic civilisation has plenty to offer I believe |
| 22:38.45 | ImpyDroid | Sinic as in East Asian |
| 22:38.52 | DrodoEmpire | I know |
| 22:38.54 | ImpyDroid | The work ethic and the like |
| 22:39.18 | ImpyDroid | That is not culture but that does not run contrary to European values either |
| 22:39.27 | DrodoEmpire | Right, the discipline and work ethic of east asian cultures is something to be admired for sure |
| 22:39.46 | DrodoEmpire | And some european cultures do have that as well, or at least as a stereotype |
| 22:40.04 | ImpyDroid | gib debt |
| 22:40.13 | Wormy_ | Monet: Yeah, the Hawks in the West probably drag us behind from moral progress |
| 22:40.21 | ImpyDroid | See, logically speaking, the interaction of values should probably be two-sided |
| 22:40.50 | ImpyDroid | The ultimate civilisation will not be purely Western obviously |
| 22:40.58 | DrodoEmpire | No, of course not |
| 22:41.04 | DrodoEmpire | You need the best of every civilization |
| 22:41.06 | ImpyDroid | Though the Western substrate will be significant |
| 22:41.09 | ImpyDroid | C |
| 22:41.53 | Monet_2 | Unlike in fairy tales, demonising faction B will make those who are dubious of side A consider otherwise. |
| 22:41.57 | ImpyDroid | As for the culture, I doubt you cannot take art or music and adopt it properly without also adopting it's underlying values |
| 22:42.08 | Wormy_ | I certainly admire China's ambitions, especially the technological ones. |
| 22:42.30 | DrodoEmpire | Well a serious artist would need to understand such values yes |
| 22:42.35 | ImpyDroid | I mean for all our faults Russia is better at... a few things |
| 22:42.44 | Monet_2 | People wh odon't like side A might grow sympathetic towards the 'evil' side B. |
| 22:42.58 | ImpyDroid | Other than killing people efficiently |
| 22:43.26 | ImpyDroid | We resist change better which is in some cases a good tbing |
| 22:43.30 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 22:43.39 | DrodoEmpire | Cultural conservatism can be a good thing to have |
| 22:44.08 | DrodoEmpire | It can, of course, be a bad thing as well as with almost any political stabce |
| 22:44.11 | ImpyDroid | C |
| 22:44.24 | Wormy_ | Resisting change just allows faster changing societies, not necessarily better from gaining an upper hand though. But that's taking things to an extreme. |
| 22:44.40 | ImpyDroid | Hell for all we know we will have a Euro-Islamic culture in the future |
| 22:45.07 | ImpyDroid | Some weird combination of Western and Middle Eastern values spurred by both colliding in many areas |
| 22:45.19 | DrodoEmpire | Possibly which I'm not too thrilled about- it greatly depends though on what shape that takes |
| 22:45.42 | ImpyDroid | Thing is the reason you are not thrilled is the beheadings and the like |
| 22:45.55 | DrodoEmpire | Right, I don't like extremist Islam |
| 22:45.56 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 22:46.04 | ImpyDroid | But consider that the process is mutual, and what we see now are radicals and fringe egroups |
| 22:46.07 | Hachiman | As if I would let myself share the same primitive scavenger culture as the Tusken Raiders |
| 22:46.10 | ImpyDroid | Which tend to vanish over time |
| 22:46.59 | ImpyDroid | So once collided Islamic culture, when confronted with an unabashed stream of Western culture, will also warp into something else |
| 22:47.06 | ImpyDroid | Thesis, antithesis, synthesis |
| 22:47.12 | Hachiman | A fucking cesspit |
| 22:47.14 | Hachiman | :p |
| 22:47.32 | Xho | ImpyDroid: wat did i just say about dialectics |
| 22:47.48 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Need I remind you that your civilisation was the product of another cesspit |
| 22:48.02 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway |
| 22:48.03 | ImpyDroid | FILTHY GERMANICS mixing with GLORIOUS ROME MASTER RACE |
| 22:48.04 | Hachiman | As was Russia |
| 22:48.11 | ImpyDroid | With you being FILTHY GERMANICS |
| 22:48.15 | ImpyDroid | Exactly |
| 22:48.25 | ImpyDroid | The process is quite common in history |
| 22:48.32 | Hachiman | Mixed with literal Mongoloids |
| 22:48.35 | ImpyDroid | FILTHY BARBARIANS enter a civilised country |
| 22:48.48 | ImpyDroid | FILTHY BARBARIANS become SLIGHTLY CLEANER SORT OF BARBARIANS |
| 22:48.59 | Hachiman | Filthy barbarians enter another barbarian country you mean :p |
| 22:49.07 | ImpyDroid | And eventually become a new civilised country |
| 22:49.22 | ImpyDroid | At which point we have more FILTHY BARBARIANS |
| 22:49.30 | DrodoEmpire | Now I want to get a map of Charlemagne's empire and label it "SLIGHTLY CLEANER SORT OF BARBARIANS" |
| 22:49.31 | Wormy_ | Right I realise my last comment wasn't really applicable. Resisting change in a changing world is dangerous recipe, but its possible to resist things that are objectively falser (i.e. not allowing luddites to smash scientific insitutions). |
| 22:49.53 | ImpyDroid | DrodoEmpire: The Carolingian Empire is kind of what I was thinking about |
| 22:50.08 | DrodoEmpire | Filthy Franks <.< |
| 22:50.11 | ImpyDroid | Kebabs enter Europe, become kEUbabs |
| 22:50.13 | Hachiman | ey b0ss |
| 22:50.15 | Wormy_ | thats how knowledge grows in a society after-all |
| 22:50.19 | DrodoEmpire | Literally |
| 22:50.24 | Hachiman | gimme de eur0pe plz |
| 22:50.54 | Monet_2 | I read somewhere that there's actually very little ROman blood left in Britain |
| 22:51.09 | ImpyDroid | But you are still culturally rooted in Rome |
| 22:51.15 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah that's true |
| 22:51.21 | Monet_2 | Most of the British blood is either celtic, Germanic, Frank or Nordic. |
| 22:51.22 | Hachiman | I thought we were culturally rooted with the Saxons |
| 22:51.29 | DrodoEmpire | English are anyway |
| 22:51.33 | Wormy_ | Don't forget Norman |
| 22:51.35 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: By another barbarian country, did you mean yourselves? |
| 22:51.39 | Wormy_ | They left a good trace |
| 22:51.51 | Monet_2 | Norman is an odd one and I was never sure |
| 22:51.56 | DrodoEmpire | But what's interesting is genetically the Britons are still divided among the ancient petty kingdoms of the dark ages |
| 22:52.03 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_ may know of this |
| 22:52.08 | Monet_2 | Normandy is a province of France but there were also Normans in Sicily. |
| 22:52.12 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 22:52.13 | Wormy_ | Yep |
| 22:52.14 | ImpyDroid | Fecking Scots |
| 22:52.40 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid: I mean barbaric Vikings are allowed to rule Russia by barbaric Slavs because they cannot rule themselves, then barbaric Slavs get conquered by barbaric Mongols |
| 22:52.47 | Wormy_ | Ancient rivalries persist as well, which now exists today in the form of Sports |
| 22:52.49 | Monet_2 | So I'm not sure if Normans are Franks, Italians, Gauls or something else. |
| 22:52.57 | Hachiman | Then it assimilates barbaric Middle Easterners |
| 22:53.01 | Wormy_ | probably a mmix |
| 22:53.18 | ImpyDroid | We never assimilated barbaric Middle Easterners hur |
| 22:53.21 | Wormy_ | I always was told Normans were Christtianised Vikings |
| 22:53.38 | Hachiman | Normans are Franks + Christianized Vikings as far as I know |
| 22:53.42 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah at least partly |
| 22:53.53 | ImpyDroid | Russia assimilated civilised Turkic people, then barbaric Caucasian people, then barbaric and civilised Turkic people |
| 22:54.06 | DrodoEmpire | Actually this reminds me |
| 22:54.12 | DrodoEmpire | I should work on different Drodo ethnicities |
| 22:54.19 | Monet_2 | Still, very little pure ROman, especially since Rome's policies by the conquest of Britain meant that one did not have to have Italian ancestors to be ROman. |
| 22:55.02 | Wormy_ | There's actually not very much Nordic blood among the English, except the Scots. Perhaps they did not native women. |
| 22:55.09 | Monet_2 | And an increasing number of emperors after the Julian line were African or from Asia Minor. |
| 22:55.11 | Wormy_ | *did not favour |
| 22:55.22 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Also the "cannot govern themselves" thing is up to debate: Russia had quite a few fully democratic city states with limited power and all that |
| 22:55.26 | Xho | Hell knows I don't favour native women |
| 22:55.32 | DrodoEmpire | Monet_2: WE WUZ KANGS |
| 22:55.35 | Hachiman | Does that mean you favour men |
| 22:55.40 | ImpyDroid | It is just that all of these city states were sacked eventually |
| 22:55.49 | Wormy_ | lmao |
| 22:56.20 | ImpyDroid | So please refrain from repeating that argument |
| 22:56.30 | Xho | Hachiman: r u dense |
| 22:56.40 | Hachiman | Xho: r u ghey |
| 22:56.44 | Monet_2 | To be called Roman was increasingly muddy as the empire grew. |
| 22:56.54 | Xho | To be honest, if I was it wouldn't really surprise anyone |
| 22:56.55 | ImpyDroid | Rurik was ultimately more of a military leader, as were most early Russian knyazs |
| 22:57.14 | Monet_2 | Romans were definitely early multiculturalists. |
| 22:57.16 | Hachiman | I mean, you do have effeminate hands |
| 22:57.17 | DrodoEmpire | So what're people's thoughts on Battlefield 1? |
| 22:57.25 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: I like the look of it |
| 22:57.33 | Xho | >battlefield 1 |
| 22:57.36 | Xho | >battlefield 4 |
| 22:57.38 | DrodoEmpire | I think it looks good so far, somewhat historical but takes its liberties |
| 22:57.39 | Hachiman | I've been wanting for a return back to the old wars in FPS games for a while |
| 22:57.39 | ImpyDroid | The internal infrastructure and governorship in early Russian city states was as good as any, and in fact identical to that of Germanic peoples |
| 22:57.42 | Xho | HAVE I GONE BACK IN TIME OR SOMETHING |
| 22:57.44 | DrodoEmpire | Hachiman: same |
| 22:57.45 | Monet_2 | DrodoEmpire: To say I ma eager for it is an understatement |
| 22:57.53 | DrodoEmpire | Plus you get horses <.< |
| 22:58.04 | Hachiman | You play a black guy don't you? |
| 22:58.08 | ImpyDroid | FUCKING ANSWER ME YOU BUNNY FUCK |
| 22:58.11 | Hachiman | WHAT |
| 22:58.19 | Monet_2 | Xho: They called it BF1 because it's set in WWI |
| 22:58.23 | Hachiman | Oh right your Viking thing |
| 22:58.40 | Hachiman | Alright, I understand now, I knew it was dubious territory to step into |
| 22:58.49 | ImpyDroid | See |
| 22:58.51 | DrodoEmpire | Can't wait to get me some killstreaks as a French Cuirassier >.> |
| 22:59.11 | Xho | No seriously |
| 22:59.18 | Xho | Why is it called Battlefield 1 |
| 22:59.21 | Monet_2 | DrodoEmpire: butbut the Charge of the Light Brigade... |
| 22:59.24 | Hachiman | Because it's set in WW1 |
| 22:59.30 | Hachiman | The first battlefield |
| 22:59.34 | DrodoEmpire | Xho: Because WWI you egg |
| 22:59.39 | Xho | But |
| 22:59.43 | DrodoEmpire | Hachiman: First battle in human history <.< |
| 22:59.47 | Xho | They've released Battlefield 4 |
| 22:59.54 | Xho | y mess wit dis shit |
| 23:00.04 | DrodoEmpire | Monet_2: Bah, that was a fluke, we'll get'em this time |
| 23:00.12 | Monet_2 | I am rather enthusiastic that it looks like we'll be seeing a good chunk of the Arabian theatre, which besides Lawrence of ARabia never got much publicity. |
| 23:00.20 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 23:00.30 | ImpyDroid | Don't you dare be witty when you do not know the full story so to speak |
| 23:00.43 | Hachiman | Wow calm down |
| 23:00.46 | ImpyDroid | Alright daily dose of anger at Hachi expended |
| 23:00.50 | DrodoEmpire | Xho: There was also XBOX one despite there being 359 previous XBOXes |
| 23:00.51 | ImpyDroid | Time to sleep |
| 23:00.53 | DrodoEmpire | So deal with it |
| 23:01.07 | Xho | Yeah but surely there's already been a Battlefield 1 |
| 23:01.15 | Hachiman | It's not called Battlefield 1 |
| 23:01.18 | Hachiman | Just Battlefield |
| 23:01.22 | Xho | THIS IS FUCKING STUPID THEN |
| 23:01.23 | Xho | FUCKING |
| 23:01.25 | Xho | AAH |
| 23:01.28 | Monet_2 | That's the odd thing about WWI: 80% of what is taought in schools is what happened on the Franco-Belgian border. |
| 23:01.33 | Hachiman | Think of it like Star Wars |
| 23:01.34 | Xho | xho.exe has stopped working |
| 23:01.49 | DrodoEmpire | "Its like Star Wars, but with guns" |
| 23:01.51 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 23:02.00 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: I am not angry or pissed or something right now, just saying |
| 23:02.05 | Monet_2 | With some coverage on Eastern Europe and the sinking of the Luscitania which may or may not have had a weapons shipment on board... |
| 23:02.29 | *** join/#sporewiki Liquid_Ink (79d0cd9d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.121.208.205.157) |
| 23:03.37 | Monet_2 | But there was also a lot of shit going down in the Arabian peninsula, North Africa, and didn't Japan invade Korea in 1911? |
| 23:03.48 | DrodoEmpire | Japan invaded a lot of places |
| 23:03.58 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 23:04.05 | DrodoEmpire | They had to meet the quota they were putting off for a few thousand years <.< |
| 23:04.09 | Hachiman | Japanese Empire stronk |
| 23:04.15 | DrodoEmpire | Crammed it all in at the last minute |
| 23:04.20 | Xho | TEIKOKU |
| 23:04.29 | Hachiman | TENNO HEIKA |
| 23:04.30 | Hachiman | BANZAIIII |
| 23:04.44 | DrodoEmpire | weeaboo <.< >.> |
| 23:04.46 | Hachiman | All according to keikaku |
| 23:04.51 | Xho | KAMIKAZE |
| 23:05.12 | Hachiman | ORE WA OCHINCHIN GA DAISUKE NANDAYO |
| 23:05.18 | Xho | Just about to type that and went against it |
| 23:05.36 | Monet_2 | And there was also the implosion of the QIng dynasty which we may never see because unless EA doesn't want to make money in China we all ahve ot accept the country has been unified and peaceful since the beginning of time. |
| 23:05.48 | Wormy_ | BENJO WA DOKU DESU KA? |
| 23:06.16 | Hachiman | MAI HATO GOES TOKI TOKI-DESU~ |
| 23:06.20 | DrodoEmpire | Monet_2: olol |
| 23:06.20 | DrodoEmpire | True |
| 23:06.31 | Hachiman | Or doki doki |
| 23:06.34 | Hachiman | Whichever |
| 23:06.44 | DrodoEmpire | And if *anybody* mentions the Cultural Revolution... <.< |
| 23:07.02 | OluapPlayer | ching chong ping pong to u lady |
| 23:07.07 | Hachiman | Mao the Dong |
| 23:07.16 | Xho | YON HYAKU NI JU MOYASE KONO OKAMA YAROU |
| 23:07.26 | DrodoEmpire | Mao the Dong dindu nuffin |
| 23:07.28 | Wormy_ | Mayonoise on Dong |
| 23:07.32 | Hachiman | olol |
| 23:07.33 | DrodoEmpire | ooh |
| 23:07.34 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 23:07.35 | Hachiman | MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA |
| 23:07.44 | Xho | This devolved very rapidly |
| 23:07.47 | Xho | very very rapidly |
| 23:08.00 | Xho | YON HYAKU NI JU MOYASE KONO OKAMA YAROU as I reiterate |
| 23:08.07 | Monet_2 | Oluap wins the sensetivity award for tonight XD. |
| 23:08.36 | Hachiman | shiiiet |
| 23:09.11 | DrodoEmpire | Actually I'm just looking at WWI fortifications now |
| 23:09.20 | DrodoEmpire | Crazy how they rebuilt old forts to be more viable |
| 23:09.25 | Wormy_ | I am enjoying my recent descents into savagery. |
| 23:09.30 | Hachiman | What if the main character of Battlefield 1 was actually Hitler |
| 23:09.55 | DrodoEmpire | (In that they pretty much put the whole thing underground, and then used these huge retractable gun turrets to fire back with) |
| 23:10.01 | Monet_2 | He did fight for the Imperial German army. |
| 23:10.23 | Xho | Tybusen: åç¾äºåããããã®ããã¾ããã |
| 23:10.27 | Hachiman | I will accept either being Hitler or being the guy who spared Hitler |
| 23:10.35 | DrodoEmpire | "this is mein story" |
| 23:10.36 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 23:11.25 | Wormy_ | If Hitler had been killed, do you think its likely another dictator would have taken his place in more or less the same time? |
| 23:11.31 | Hachiman | Probably |
| 23:11.57 | Hachiman | I'm sure the Japanese during the 1930s were up for some wanking in Nanking amirite |
| 23:12.20 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 23:12.26 | Wormy_ | harsh |
| 23:12.35 | DrodoEmpire | savage |
| 23:13.26 | Monet_2 | This black guy we're seeing in the trailers is either a promo guy or a nimportant character for the Battlefield 1 singleplayer story that most people usually don't care about. |
| 23:13.56 | Hachiman | Most people don't care about black people anyway so |
| 23:14.16 | Hachiman | Alright I'll stop, I'm getting out of hand now hur |
| 23:14.18 | Wormy_ | >.> |
| 23:14.26 | Monet_2 | WHat I mean is CoD at least tries ot present an over-arching story with its instalments |
| 23:14.55 | DrodoEmpire | Monet_2: Actually there's a backstory to that- I believe that guy is an american soldier from this one famous coloured regiment of the time... I watched something on it |
| 23:14.56 | DrodoEmpire | either way |
| 23:15.02 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 23:15.30 | Hachiman | Harlem Hellfighters or something |
| 23:15.32 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 23:15.34 | DrodoEmpire | That's it |
| 23:15.45 | Monet_2 | So... |
| 23:15.58 | Monet_2 | Not only is he a coloured man. He's a coloured man from New York City. |
| 23:16.16 | Monet_2 | Germans: Run for the hills. |
| 23:16.22 | DrodoEmpire | Most likely |
| 23:16.47 | Hachiman | There's a reason why the Germans called them Hellfighters |
| 23:16.48 | DrodoEmpire | Actually there were a *lot* of famous regiments and whatnot from that time in history |
| 23:17.04 | DrodoEmpire | The Germans, for example, were *terrified* of the Canadians :p |
| 23:17.20 | Monet_2 | Hachiman: Yeah and its likely coming from Harlem was a contributing actor. |
| 23:17.21 | DrodoEmpire | Who were for the most part crack troops for Britain |
| 23:17.24 | Hachiman | Scared of being drowned in maple syrup |
| 23:17.30 | Hachiman | Sorry, bad joke, eh |
| 23:17.45 | Wormy_ | So the Harlem's insignia and motto was the "Don't Step of Me" snek |
| 23:18.03 | Hachiman | Monet_2: "The nickname "Hell Fighters" was given to them by the Germans due to their toughness and that they never lost a man through capture, lost a trench or a foot of ground to the enemy." |
| 23:18.11 | Tek0516 | So this is extremely annoying in HoI4. >.< https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/cpprEOAD/20160606191733_1.jpg |
| 23:18.24 | Monet_2 | Until about 10-20 years ago, Harlem and the Bronx were kinda New York's asspits |
| 23:18.56 | DrodoEmpire | It probably helped that it was the Canadians who took Vimy Ridge, and at least one Canadian soldier killed 14 German Stormtroopers with a bayonet, and singlehandedly held back a German advace with machinegun fire until reinforcements arrived |
| 23:19.06 | DrodoEmpire | *advance |
| 23:19.21 | Monet_2 | DrodoEMpire: Sorryland says Hello XD |
| 23:19.25 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 23:19.28 | Hachiman | I remember reading about that |
| 23:19.40 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah as it turns out Canadians are a pretty tough race of people :p |
| 23:19.59 | DrodoEmpire | We also kicked out those pesky Fenians in this one war everybody forgets about |
| 23:20.06 | Wormy_ | Well, you have fierce cold and bears to deal with |
| 23:20.06 | Monet_2 | Tough, but extremely polite when you're not trying to kill them. |
| 23:20.16 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 23:20.57 | Monet_2 | Wasn't Canada still mostly known for the fur trade back then? |
| 23:21.06 | DrodoEmpire | Sorta yeah |
| 23:21.08 | Wormy_ | The Scots also had some famous regiments, and were sometimes mistaken for women in skirts |
| 23:21.09 | DrodoEmpire | Well |
| 23:21.09 | DrodoEmpire | When |
| 23:21.12 | DrodoEmpire | *? |
| 23:21.22 | DrodoEmpire | 1900s? It was well past that point |
| 23:21.29 | Monet_2 | Ah right |
| 23:21.35 | Hachiman | I get reminded of Jack Churchill |
| 23:21.36 | DrodoEmpire | It was still a bit of a backwater though |
| 23:22.10 | Wormy_ | Here https://imgur.com/OjtN2y1 |
| 23:22.14 | Monet_2 | Jack Churchill. Now there's a terror. |
| 23:22.23 | Monet_2 | Though he's WWII |
| 23:22.29 | DrodoEmpire | But yeah the first proper war fought by the Canadians was actually against the IRA :p |
| 23:22.33 | Wormy_ | His feats are like that of a movie hero |
| 23:22.51 | Hachiman | Jack Churchill could fit easily into the role of a comic book character |
| 23:22.58 | DrodoEmpire | In the form of the "Fenians", who amassed an army in the USA to try to invade Canada with- they failed both times |
| 23:23.17 | Hachiman | Didn't Canada take over the White House at some point |
| 23:23.24 | DrodoEmpire | Including one notable engagement where Canadian and Fenian troops shot at eachother from either side of the US/Canadian border |
| 23:23.35 | DrodoEmpire | In 1812, the British-Canadians burnt it down |
| 23:23.45 | DrodoEmpire | And those Americans *insist* they won |
| 23:23.47 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 23:24.06 | DrodoEmpire | Despite systematically and clearly failing every strategic objective |
| 23:24.17 | Monet_2 | If you call "sinking a pile of money and barely gaining anything" winning. |
| 23:24.26 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 23:24.45 | DrodoEmpire | I think "winning" is code for "wasn't brought back into the Empire" <.< |
| 23:25.02 | DrodoEmpire | So they didn't lose *everything* |
| 23:25.15 | Monet_2 | Except it was mainly an American act of aggression wasn' it? |
| 23:25.16 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway, that'll be a debate Canadians and Americans entertain till the end of time |
| 23:25.17 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 23:25.19 | DrodoEmpire | Indeed |
| 23:25.50 | Monet_2 | They'd won their independance a few decades back and thought "Let's kick the redcoats out of the rest of this new land" |
| 23:25.54 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 23:26.21 | Wormy_ | Pretty sure the Brits would have won if they were not distracted by France |
| 23:26.31 | DrodoEmpire | Well they did |
| 23:26.36 | DrodoEmpire | Don't worry XD |
| 23:26.45 | DrodoEmpire | Or do you mean the independence war? |
| 23:26.51 | Monet_2 | Independance war possibly |
| 23:27.16 | Wormy_ | I meant both, but wasn't the uninterest in the war as there were bigger fights with France? |
| 23:27.36 | DrodoEmpire | In both cases Britain was distracted by France |
| 23:27.43 | DrodoEmpire | But the US still lost 1812 |
| 23:28.01 | Wormy_ | I bet if the Brits fully committed to taking the US they could have done in the War of 1812 |
| 23:28.04 | Monet_2 | But i nthe case of the war of 1812, the United States was horrendously organised |
| 23:28.53 | Monet_2 | Like for instance the mian route of invasion was by way of the most heavily fordified section of the American-Canadian border. |
| 23:28.55 | Wormy_ | Then I also heard that the US wasn't that economically attractive, as other countries of the empire |
| 23:28.58 | Tek0516 | At the start of the 1812 Britain had to deal with Napoleon. |
| 23:29.19 | *** part/#sporewiki Cyrannian (uid97882@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-npqljasrzhrbyxoi) |
| 23:30.44 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/aLVuyPA |
| 23:31.07 | DrodoEmpire | *Modern Art* |
| 23:32.43 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/RF9jfhb |
| 23:33.14 | Hachiman | FUCKING CUNTS |
| 23:33.30 | Hachiman | The parents who allowed their kid to fall into that gorilla enclosure are not being prosecuted |
| 23:33.48 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_: olol |
| 23:34.35 | Tek0516 | DrodoEmpire: So the precursor to the NDP is no longer classfied as communist in HoI4. :P |
| 23:34.52 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 23:35.11 | DrodoEmpire | "I used to be full Jew, but now I am just Jewish." |
| 23:35.50 | Wormy_ | Tbh while I said "blame the zoo and parents" in the past, I'm now coming to just blaming the zoo. Parents make mistakes and society expects godliness and conformity. |
| 23:36.22 | Hachiman | Eh, no, parents are still at fault for allowing it to happen |
| 23:36.45 | Hachiman | I actually pin less blame on the zoo; only thing they should amend is making the enclosure better protected |
| 23:36.54 | Wormy_ | I'm sure we can all remember getting lost for a panicked minute in the shops, right? |
| 23:37.19 | Hachiman | Yes but a cashier didn't have to fucking die because of it |
| 23:37.56 | Wormy_ | That arguably from a parents perspectives is worse, one expects the Zoo to be safe, and so lose guard. But a lost child in a shop is far less certain |
| 23:38.36 | Wormy_ | Yeah, the parents should admit responsibility at least and perhaps raise the issues so it does not happen again |
| 23:38.40 | Hachiman | It's not the zoo's fault if your shitty child is reckless and actively goes out of his way to get into an animal enclosure |
| 23:39.12 | Wormy_ | That child could have been most of all but the most shy |
| 23:39.35 | Wormy_ | *any child rather |
| 23:46.19 | *** join/#sporewiki AdmiralPanda (65b18fa9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.101.177.143.169) |
| 23:46.32 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
| 23:47.14 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 23:54.22 | The_Randomness | Hey Panda |
| 23:54.41 | Wormy_ | Hachi: In one of the newer Xeelee Sequence stories I got a real surprise. I've also noticed a change in style of his writing that improves characters. |
| 23:55.59 | Hachiman | Oh cool |
| 23:56.11 | Hachiman | Baxter is actually writing 3D characters for once? |
| 23:56.28 | Wormy_ | I think so |
| 23:57.40 | Wormy_ | Micheal Poole is now revealed to be a real dick, with no moral compass. He destroyed life and a curious enimgma on Titan (dunno whether to spoil), his long-time partner would have opposed him, but he wiped her memories clean so she would not stand in front of his goals, all the while he cradled her asleep in his hands almost lovingly. |
| 23:58.27 | Hachiman | Oh wow, what the fuck |
| 23:58.49 | Wormy_ | But what really shocked me |
| 23:59.15 | Wormy_ | Was that he used something from an entirely different universe he wrote, or at least it seems. I don't know what this means |
| 23:59.45 | Hachiman | Could be an indication of connection to the Proxima series |
| 23:59.51 | DrodoEmpire | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t-ZAQcJZQw garry's mod 2016 |
| 23:59.53 | Wormy_ | Basically these wormholes hatches buried in planets that are part of the Proxima series |
| 23:59.54 | Wormy_ | Yes |
