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00:13.58The_RandomnessHey Drodo
00:23.02DrodoEmpiretest
00:24.06DrodoEmpireGUESS WHO IT IS
00:24.08DrodoEmpireGUESS AGAIN
00:24.10DrodoEmpireWRONG
00:24.19DrodoEmpireITS STOMEDY
00:24.24The_Randomnesswut
00:24.27DrodoEmpiredunno why i did that <.<
00:43.02DrodoEmpireHL2RP rebels in a nutshell - https://i.gyazo.com/5c7a77cf45c86ea301778227124959dd.png
00:50.17The_Randomnesslol
00:54.57DrodoEmpireThey have. So. Many. Guns. >.<
00:55.19DrodoEmpireI met one guy who had an LMG and a freaking *katana*. Because, you know, why not
00:55.38The_Randomnessnothing beats sheer nippon steel
00:55.44The_Randomnessamirite
00:55.49DrodoEmpireYeah... :p
00:56.37DrodoEmpireThis all being said being armed to the teeth doesn't stop the resistance getting their asses whooped in every major engagement I've participated in >.<
00:56.43The_Randomnesslol
00:58.18DrodoEmpireI dunno how it happpens, maybe we're just that bad
00:58.33DrodoEmpireI mean I got friendly-fired in one firefight by this really careless guy with an LMG
00:58.43The_Randomnesslol
00:58.48DrodoEmpireAnyway
01:07.26AdmiralPandayou think that's bad? You haven't seen SWRP
01:07.34AdmiralPandahalf the pilots are utter shit, and I mean can't even clear the hangar shit
01:07.40The_Randomnesslol
01:08.13AdmiralPandaI've sworn an oath never to fly unless my commander is the pilot, cos at least he can reliably fly without crashing into something, or someone for that matter
01:08.35AdmiralPandaand collision damage wrecks craft, so 2/3 flights result in everyone aboard dying
01:10.01DrodoEmpire:p
01:10.39DrodoEmpireNah, HL2RP (well, CombineControl which is similar) is fun for the most part- definitely more RP than game though
01:10.58DrodoEmpireIts a lot like an IRC rp, but more interactive most of the time
01:13.05AdmiralPandathe two biggest problems with SWRP are that most people don't actually RP, and the ones that do overact to the point of cringe
01:13.36DrodoEmpire^
01:13.40DrodoEmpireI've observed this yeah
01:14.08DrodoEmpireAnd honestly SWRP would be a *lot* better if they didn't use just use a tweaked DarkRP script
01:14.45DrodoEmpireIf they slowed down music speeds, maybe changed the lighting settings, got rid of voicechat and added more chat commands (/me, /w, /y, etc.) it'd be cool
01:15.00DrodoEmpireHell, use a tweaked Clockwork or CombineControl script :p
01:15.08DrodoEmpire*the movement speeds
01:15.12DrodoEmpire*not music speeds. >.<
01:16.29DrodoEmpireOne thing I've learnt is that the boundaries of the gamemode *heavily* influence the boundaries of behavior- A good gamemode can reduce trolling and encourage a better experience
01:21.23AdmiralPandathe server I'm on has /me, /w, /y, a few others, we have two optional server music ST's but again they're optional, the problem is we have mostly incompetents training new recruits,
01:21.37AdmiralPandaand most of the officers got their positions by brown-nosing, and act like idiots
01:21.57DrodoEmpireRight, right
01:22.09AdmiralPandathat and the structure of the server is a little borked, like there's way too many regiments so they're all overblown with officer ranks
01:22.10DrodoEmpireBut I think the major thing *would be* to remove voice chat altogether
01:22.50AdmiralPandagetting rid of voice chat would hurt grass-level RP in events significantly in our case
01:23.06DrodoEmpireBecause of NPCs?
01:24.00AdmiralPandawe don't use NPCs, the reason getting rid of voice would hurt is there's a lot of things you don't have time to type out (and are too specific to make a bind for) that you need to get across during a firefight
01:24.25DrodoEmpireWe have the same thing in HL2RP, its not a problem. :p
01:24.32DrodoEmpireI speak from experience
01:24.35AdmiralPandaa lot of people also genuinely don't look at text chat when they're fighting
01:24.57DrodoEmpireAgain, its an attitude thing. I speak from experience, and with the right rules in place it isn't a problem
01:25.09DrodoEmpireJust be quick with typing
01:25.33AdmiralPandasure, if established that way from the start, but by now this server is so heavily set in its ways we can't even push to get a 270-degree drill turn removed from basic training
01:26.03DrodoEmpireAh.
01:26.15AdmiralPandato be clear, I'm not trying to defend the way the server runs- I vocally express that it's shit, on the server, on a daily basis, I'm just saying it'd be near-impossible to fix at this point
01:26.16DrodoEmpireYeah then a major script change wouldn't go through easily at all
01:26.26DrodoEmpireRight right
01:27.17AdmiralPandalike I'm acquaintances with one of the server owners, he knows I've got history running RP, so he asked me what I'd do to improve the server, my only honest answer was "start over"
01:27.37DrodoEmpireOuch...
01:28.24AdmiralPandathere's a lot of problems, like the fact that we have over 10 active regiments means the rank structure is horribly divided, there's no standardised conditions for rank nor conduct,
01:28.48AdmiralPandaso there are more officers than there are NCOs or regimental troopers, and almost none of them even deserve Sergeant rank
01:29.36DrodoEmpireSo there's a lot of organizational issues and cronyism going on.
01:29.44AdmiralPandayup
01:30.09DrodoEmpireReminds me of the late Qing dynasty's military. :p
01:30.23DrodoEmpireWell, with the exception of antiquated weaponry
01:30.27DrodoEmpire(I presume)
01:30.27AdmiralPandaand the event staff don't understand how group RP works, and some of them are outright selfish to the point that we once had two events that basically summed up as character development for that staffer's Jedi character
01:30.37DrodoEmpireWow
01:34.02AdmiralPandaso yeah, not great, in short
01:34.37AdmiralPandathere's basically one unit that's really any good, ARC (which thankfully I'm a part of), to the point that basically anything actually relevant that happens has at least one ARC trooper in the heart of it, usually me
01:35.06AdmiralPandaI'm also basically the only person who knows anything about engineering RP, so I've single-handedly been responsible for saving the ship from destruction over sixteen times
01:35.31AdmiralPandaincluding from people who think good engineering RP is escalating minor system damage to the aforementioned ship blowing up scenario
01:36.07AdmiralPandato the point that I, as a Lieutenant, have special authority to order *anyone* short of a Jedi out of the reactor room, without warning, notice or reason
01:36.15DrodoEmpire:p
01:37.21DrodoEmpireWell, next time I decide to go onto a CWRP server I'll be sure to frolic around in the reactor room in the off-chance you're there. XD
01:37.33AdmiralPandaif it's not Poseidon Servers, I won't be
01:37.36DrodoEmpireJust to give you a hard time <.<
01:37.42AdmiralPandaif it is, first of all that's an Australian server so enjoy the ping :P
01:37.46AdmiralPandasecondly, I'll shoot you dead
01:37.53DrodoEmpireokay captain edgy <.<
01:38.01AdmiralPandarestricted area *grins*
01:39.09DrodoEmpireSeriously though the amount of times I and others have been shot dead on those servers makes me think that the majority of casualties during the Clone Wars were from overzealous security personnel. >.<
01:39.09AdmiralPandabut yeah, the server is mostly making the best of a bad situation
01:39.28AdmiralPandaoh I only shoot people in the reactor room; if I
01:39.43AdmiralPandaI'm on third floor duty I give them fair warning first, then if they stay I shoot them
01:39.58DrodoEmpireStill though
01:40.57DrodoEmpireIts a Venator-class star destroyer- not the O.K. corral
01:41.11DrodoEmpire>.>
01:41.11AdmiralPandaand normal clones wouldn't go into restricted areas like idiots :P
01:41.25DrodoEmpireWell good thing I'm that second thing when I'm on CWRP XD
01:41.37AdmiralPandaI mean, there's a giant armoured bulkhead with glowing words saying "Restricted Area" in front of you when the elevator door opens
01:42.02DrodoEmpireA few months ago especially I'd mess around on CWRP servers just for kicks- yeah yeah I'm a horrible person I know
01:42.33AdmiralPandawell then you can't exactly blame them if you're deliberately fucking with the
01:42.34AdmiralPandathem
01:44.36AdmiralPandabut anyway, ultimately there is a lot of potential in the gametype when it's set up properly and people are normal
01:44.41DrodoEmpire^
01:44.52DrodoEmpireThere is
01:45.33DrodoEmpireIt needs to borrow more from other serious RP gamemodes though if it wants to put a stop to people like me. :p
01:46.12AdmiralPandapeople like you just need to either not play, or get beaten into shape in basic training
01:46.23DrodoEmpire(Most of the staff I talk to are also pretty unprofessional- Best thing you can do is just deal with a troll maturely and quickly, don't feed the flame by getting mad :p)
01:46.25AdmiralPandayou're your own fault, not a fault of the game
01:46.41DrodoEmpireWell... I'
01:46.46DrodoEmpire*I only partially agree
01:47.05DrodoEmpireAnd that's because things like really fast run speed and voicechat allow people to troll really easily
01:47.29DrodoEmpireIts *really* difficult to actuall troll and fuck around in HL2RP or CombineControl, because the script is different
01:47.38DrodoEmpireSo few people even bother
01:47.55AdmiralPandaour default speed is walk, and voice spam is one of the fastest things that gets you dealt with by way of a swift gagging
01:47.55DrodoEmpireThat's what I mean by the script's restrictions influencing the restrictions on behavior
01:48.38DrodoEmpireI don't need to spam to give someone a hard time, and b-hopping remains effective.
01:50.03AdmiralPandafunnily enough the only problem we have with people moving around is the people who suicide to get to their spawn area to travel around the map
01:50.21DrodoEmpireAgain, call me a horrible person if you must, but I've played a *lot* of RP gamemodes and its just *so* easy to minge on CWRP
01:50.28AdmiralPandalike you get the occasional person who sprints everywhere because sprint
01:50.42AdmiralPandaI will call you a horrible person cos you're going into it with the intent to minge, which is just plain fucked if you ask me
01:51.39AdmiralPandaPoseidon's problems wouldn't exist if the majority of players were normal, decent people, tbh
01:51.47DrodoEmpireI've played both really serious and messed around because I felt like it. I know both sides and I've seen both sorts of people. :p
01:52.07DrodoEmpireThey're both fine for the most part, and messing around is harmless- I'm not hurting anybody either way
01:53.17DrodoEmpireBut if you think I'm a sociopath for it then that's your opinion
01:53.24DrodoEmpireI'll just pay you a visit one day <.<
01:54.32AdmiralPandaI never said you were a sociopath, I just legitimately do not like the idea of people going onto a serious RP server to screw around- I should point out we've got a choice of a serious RP server and a casual RP server
01:55.10AdmiralPandaanyway, I'm gonna head off
01:55.16DrodoEmpireAlright. Bye!
01:58.20DrodoEmpireSwitching computer
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11:10.37MonetHello
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11:38.58Wormy_hi
11:39.15MonetHello
11:39.59Wormy_5 REAL Mutant Powers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j89yrNOwDcM - not watched the whole thing but looks interesting so far
11:40.22Liquid_InkIt was pretty cool
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11:42.50Monet4 worries me a little
11:44.45Monetand 3...yeah there's already controversiality around souble-muscling in animals, let alone people.
11:44.55Monetdouble-muscling*
11:45.23Wormy_lol
11:49.41Wormy_How a humming bird snores https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj5huCuhD_Q
11:51.11Monethttp://showhorsegallery.com/images/uploads/yourhorseisamutantphoto-dog.jpg that's a double-muscled whippet.
11:51.32Wormy_Very unusual
11:52.19Liquid_InkDoesn't seem healthy
11:56.43GhelaeYeah; generally "mutant powers" like those in that video have side-effects.
11:56.59GhelaeInability to feel pain is the obvious one, because you can cause yourself real harm without realising it.
11:57.49GhelaeEven the first one, where people cannot break their bones, isn't all good: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sclerostin#Clinical_significance
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11:59.22GhelaeIt doesn't look like having superhuman stamina causes any problems.
12:03.12Monethttp://showhorsegallery.com/articles/horses_arent_supposed_to_look_like_beef_cows this disturbs me
12:03.24MonetThat horse is just...just wrong.
12:07.34Liquid_InkNot at all good
12:10.10Wormy_To make truly stronger people, we'd need a genes that increases muscle fibre density, increase the amino acids in the muscle, and make the arms shorter.
12:10.58Wormy_Having just larger muscles doesn't necessarily mean stronger and comes with its own problems, on the organs and structure of the body
12:11.03MonetI like draft horses, I think they're beautiful and majestic. And that they carry their weight so.
12:11.33MonetThey carry their weight well, this horse is...
12:11.43MonetThose shoulders disturb me.
12:12.08Wormy_Chimpanzee arms aren't much bigger than humans', but the muscle itself has more of those two things than oiurs
12:12.39Wormy_And can pull with more power than a strongman's arm by far
12:13.16Wormy_Though I doubt chimps can do what strongmen can do in terms of lifting weights due to the structure of their body
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12:13.38HachimanHi
12:15.19MonetHi
12:15.50MonetI foy'er after a nice big horse this is much better imo http://www.horsebreedspictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Belgian-Draft-Horse.jpg
12:16.30Wormy_I do not like horses particulaly
12:16.48MonetI know
12:17.13Wormy_Been chased three times by them, though only once was it an aggressive chase
12:17.53Wormy_Its hard to read their gaunt, emotionless faces
12:18.41MonetHorses express with the body, not the face
12:20.49MonetI think its mostly because humans are wired to focus on the face.
12:20.57Wormy_For some reason I'm more fearful of horses than cows
12:21.14Wormy_If cows get curious, just clap at them and they run off
12:22.00Wormy_Bullocks, well its best just to avoid them if you can
12:22.11Wormy_Or cows with calves
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12:22.32MonetHi
12:22.36Wormy_hey
12:22.37ImperiosHi
12:22.39MonetWormy_: Different purposes of breeding
12:23.10MonetSince one of the things we've tried to work out of trained horses is that instinct to bolt or panic.
12:23.27HachimanHi Imp
12:23.31Wormy_yeah
12:23.40HachimanImperios: Do half-elves exist in Warhammer Fantasy?
12:27.13MonetGranted msot of my experience with horses is approaching carriage-pulling draft horses
12:27.19MonetBut they tend ot be gentle giants.
12:30.07Wormy_I don't mind little ponies
12:30.19Wormy_woops
12:31.29MonetI heard a saying about them that imples the oposite
12:31.38Monet"the smaller the horse, the closer ot hell"
12:32.04MonetNot malicious, just a pain to keep fro mcausing mischief.
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12:43.02AdmiralPandahi all
12:44.36HachimanHi
12:45.06MonetHello
12:45.56ImperiosHachiman: I think so
12:46.37ImperiosI do not remember any canon half-elves in WHFB tho
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12:51.17ImperiosXho: https://2ch.hk/po/src/16343152/14645192403280.jpg Kithworto training Kezoreg
12:51.19ImperiosHi
12:52.32XhoKithworto - mega retarded
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12:57.57Xhoups
12:58.10OluapPlayerspu
12:58.42XhoHachiman OluapPlayer: u two available for sparky
12:58.58HachimanNot at the moment
12:59.05Xhobaw
13:07.41XhoHachiman: I recommend listening to Haken
13:08.01XhoNot exactly kvlt but it gets my approval
13:08.01HachimanI've heard of Haken
13:09.58XhoListen to Pareidolia or Falling Back to Earth, fairly good and long examples
13:10.57XhoI'd say they're half way between Dream Theater and Tool
13:11.18XhoOccasional Meshuggah tints here and there
13:26.17Wormy_So there was a man in town today with a mullet going mad with a mallet in Millets.
13:26.43Wormy_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FR842KUaOw
13:56.16Wormy_https://twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/736299846097874944
13:59.24Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/NpF08
13:59.42Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/VRRBv
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13:59.57dino82_hi
14:00.42OluapPlayerHi dino
14:02.02dino82_howz all doing ;d
14:02.03Imperioshi
14:04.12Wormy_http://i.imgur.com/S82KCTl.jpg
14:04.14dino82_hi
14:04.17Wormy_hi
14:11.30dino82_anything going on at the wiki?
14:12.23OluapPlayerNot really
14:12.27OluapPlayerQuite a boring day today
14:12.33MonetUpdating pages
14:13.17dino82_ah ok, easy going then :D
14:20.40MonetFeels kind of good t oget back int o editing
14:25.11Monet“He always angers me with his foul words! He should be slain and be replaced with a more democratic leader!” - Kies on Uriel
14:25.36MonetI get Kies wants democracy but does that justify execution?
14:26.01dino82_@monet: Nice! I have to finish updating the latest Tertius story as well, but so much work to do haha
14:26.15dino82_Hmm, execution isn't really democratic
14:26.45MonetTechnically it is if the execution was voted for by the public.
14:26.46OluapPlayerIt's Kies
14:26.47OluapPlayerHe runs on nonsensium
14:26.50XhoOluapPlayer: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13301351_1057508357659238_4355733445302397108_o.jpg
14:27.27OluapPlayerlel
14:27.34MonetMimic - Mmm yummy adventurer.
14:29.01MonetActually given Uriel's influence, killing him would be a *bad* idea
14:29.13MonetLike. a really horrid idea. Because then he becomes a martyr.
14:30.04XhoI think killing any head of state of any civilisation on SporeWiki is a bad idea heh
14:30.08OluapPlayerKies doesn't have to worry anymore since Uriel exploded into stardust
14:30.49MonetKies - Oh great, now he's breaking physics.
14:31.56XhoJust say 'magic' to a Tahar and http://www.joshuanhook.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/4a3c3e9ddb89babe1ae32689dd958171.jpg
14:32.39TheMEOWKingI guess they hate magic
14:33.01XhoThey're scientists to an ironically fundamentalist degree
14:33.02OluapPlayerThey hate anything that can't be explained with science
14:33.11AdmiralPandaa better way to put it is, across the spectrum of Irskaad's fiction, literally anything has someone who hates it
14:33.13TheMEOWKingHaha that's just like me
14:33.19MonetAny form of spirituality = triggered
14:33.29TheMEOWKingThey want to explain everything
14:33.33TheMEOWKingAnd I perfectly agree
14:33.56AdmiralPandathey didn't so much want an explanation so much as "LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU"
14:34.33MonetIf *they* couldn't prove hwat you were saying, then you were wrong
14:34.45TheMEOWKingXD
14:35.14TheMEOWKingSo they're always right
14:35.15MonetWhich is like a Victorian physicist scoffing at quantum mechanics and calling it BS pseudoscience.
14:36.20MonetThe problem was that depite their focus o nscience, they were centuries behind the gigaquadrant's leaders
14:36.52TheMEOWKingPoor little dudes
14:36.55MonetSo they probably couldn't prove Essence is a thing because they didn't have the means to accurately measure it.
14:37.01AdmiralPandaI believe at one point one accused void translation of being magic
14:37.22AdmiralPandadespite it being a very observable scientific phenomena
14:37.51TheMEOWKingHumans considered many things as magic in the past, but these things are now explained with science
14:37.52OluapPlayerYes, then Eko's son got dream energy and grew wings
14:38.00OluapPlayerShame Irsk left before we could see how that ended up
14:38.34Wormy_The Tahar may have believed in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientism
14:39.07OluapPlayerI mean we know he grows up to become the Tahar Collective Commander but I mean how he'd be seen in the current day
14:39.48Xhogive it 600,000 years kek
14:40.16OluapPlayercurrent day u doofus
14:42.02MonetAdmiralPanda: One Tahar tried ot disprove essence being a hyperpatial phernomenon by saying that consciousness dies with the brain and thus cannot go into hyperspace.
14:42.31Xho800 den
14:42.32Xhobastard
14:43.40Xho799 actually, close enough
14:44.12ImperiosMonet: You should totally use Kies
14:44.42MonetImperios: Isn't he retired atm?
14:45.01AdmiralPandaretired from all potential for being taken seriously yeah :P
14:45.21MonetWas there a time he was taken seriously?
14:45.22OluapPlayerNone of Irsk's fiction could ever be taken seriously
14:46.02Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13329467_1462821553783298_1309494663910153120_o.jpg mystical rainbow dog
14:46.16OluapPlayerthis kills the dog
14:47.27MonetAlthough I have tohught once or twice: If irsk is gone, perhaps we should try finishing Tzwhatever withotu him.
14:47.51OluapPlayerIt's been too long at this point
14:48.54MonetMeh, time doesn't bother me.
14:49.31MonetLately the 'presentday' has been getting increasingly wobbly
14:50.23XhoBack to the Future IV: Tzhwhatever's Return
14:50.28OluapPlayerI mean in real life
14:50.43OluapPlayerTzhwar was like years ago
14:50.59MonetEven more reason ot finish it surely.
14:51.25XhoI don't particularly feel like going back to ti
14:51.26Xhoit
14:51.34OluapPlayerMe neither
14:51.45XhoTrying to do fiction in the Fictionverse is hard enough
14:51.47OluapPlayerIt's been too long, I've stopped caring
14:51.51MonetOkay fine.
14:52.06TheMEOWKingWhat exactly is that essence you spoke about?
14:52.32XhoMagic, more or less
14:52.48XhoAlthough in reality it's some sort of interdimensional godtech
14:52.52MonetHow magic it is depends on the fiction
14:53.10TheMEOWKingIs it like a soul?
14:53.19OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3AEssence
14:53.23XhoAlthough the level of how interdimensional and godtechy it is is indistinguishable to magic so
14:53.26XhoIt's magic really
14:53.31MonetSome fiction's it's ch'i others its like DBZ stuff
14:53.40MonetOters it classic magic
14:54.42XhoIt's like a flashier version of the Force but has a little more explanation to it
14:55.07MonetA somewhat better explaination than EPI tried to give that's for sure
14:55.19OluapPlayerspace microbes
14:55.47MonetElemental Energy is like ch'i so its accessable ot everyone
14:56.27MonetOne of the reasons I hated that BS space microbe idea was it's a means of elitism.
14:57.25dino82_@Fellow Wikians: Need your advise a bit. During the latest story in Tertius Bellum there are some changes for Rambo Nation at whole (incl. the geographic lay out of the Quadrants). Now with Ramashe's loss the Le Rambo Dynasty is at peril and is greatly weakened. Do you think it would fit the Rambo to take a harsher stance against may things? Or would it not fit their "character"?
14:58.26AdmiralPandaprobably
14:58.35OluapPlayerMaybe not a sudden change of personality but they could put themselves in the defensive for the sake of repairing themselves
14:58.40MonetI think beocming more guarded is fairly understandable.
14:58.40AdmiralPandafundamentalism always rises in the wake of tragedy
14:59.00dino82_Thanks :D
14:59.23OluapPlayerBut don't go as far as start getting angry at their allies because there's no reason to do that, it's not their fault
14:59.26MonetWith the Le Rambo dynasty in peril, there's reason to further protect the surviving members.
14:59.50MonetThere is if their allies didn't move to help them.
15:00.03AdmiralPandainb4 pulls Kies and calls Fordanta traitors
15:00.08AdmiralPandathat made me laugh, tbh
15:00.21OluapPlayerThat's a bit harsh
15:00.35OluapPlayerIt's not like they could stop the god-thing from messing the galaxies about
15:00.42Xho"lol" - Kithworto
15:00.59OluapPlayershup ur not in this universe anymor
15:01.05Xho"lol" - Kithworto
15:01.14MonetOluapPlayer: Some fanatics can still find excuses
15:01.30OluapPlayerAnd that's why you shouldn't listen to fanatics
15:01.31dino82_@no the Le Rambo will not be hostile against their allies, an assasination attempt cannot be blamed upon allied forces, only against those who did it. But as Rambarth is always a bit defensive, then I know it would fit them for now
15:01.43dino82_no worries, when called upon he will honor hte treaties ofcourse :D
15:01.51OluapPlayerThat's like blaming the PCA for the wars on Andromeda
15:02.17OluapPlayerThat being said the Indoc Collective would be willing to help if the Rambo want it
15:02.39MonetHave you seen some responses to refugees in Europe?
15:03.02MonetSome people are jsut dicks. And will sue a percieved fear to twist minds.
15:03.03OluapPlayerI don't keep up to politics
15:03.17Monetuse a percieved*
15:03.36dino82_@monet: the refugee "crisis" splits the European Union
15:04.00MonetYeah.
15:04.09dino82_tehy can't agree on aything at the moment, first the Greek Financial crisis, now the Refugee and the impending Brexit, I think the future of the Union might be a bit on stake
15:04.23XhoRamashe's coma sends her to Insomnia where she has tea with a cross-dressing Santorakh and a forcibly cross-dressed Dhazhrak
15:04.34OluapPlayerDhazhrak - >forcibly
15:04.59XhoSantorakh - trust me dear             the outfit is astounding
15:04.59dino82_@Xho: haha now those are nightmares for sure :P
15:05.12MonetOver in the UK you have UKIP who think that we can stop 'dem immigrints coming ot our shores' by leaving the EU and closing borders.
15:05.24XhoOr perhaps a forcibly cross dressed Volim
15:05.27HachimanPeople who want to leave the EU are fucking retarded lmao
15:05.39XhoThen again Volim can't really do much to resist it on the account of no limbs
15:05.41OluapPlayersez u retard shup
15:05.45HachimanLeave your patriotism with the British Empire please lol
15:05.45MonetPanic causes problems and screws up rational judgement.
15:05.54AdmiralPandaneed cyberpunk CEU
15:06.05XhoAdmiralPanda: I never asked for this
15:06.35AdmiralPandaXho: What I mean is, Europe, Japan and America forming an economic union standardising global currencies
15:06.41HachimanPeople who want to leave the EU also advocate for restoring the British Empire and forcibly reclaiming India and enslaving Africa
15:06.42Xhoy u no get reference
15:06.48AdmiralPandaI got the reference
15:06.51Xhoterrible den
15:06.51AdmiralPandait was a dum reference
15:06.54Xhou dum
15:07.09AdmiralPandame no stoopid, u da stoopid
15:07.13AdmiralPandaI'll stop now
15:07.16MonetHachiman: Not all of them but yes I've heard of the 'Empire 2.0' desire.
15:07.27AdmiralPandathat cost me like half my sanity for the night and I'm still playing DkS for a few hours
15:07.31XhoIf it means a standardised global currency system then perhaps my Japanese imports would be easier
15:07.50Hachiman>Japanese imports
15:07.58Xhomusic gear u dunec
15:08.00Xhodunce
15:08.01Hachimanits hentai and dakimakura
15:08.02Xhois now a dunce
15:08.09dino82_But still, a fracture of the Union is not good for the global economy as well, it endagers the Euro coin, and might split the EU in a "western" and an "eastern/southern" Union, so we have the imaginative wall back
15:08.12MonetU ninjad me with the hentai
15:08.15Xhomusical hentai gear                        Santorakh Akbar
15:08.21dino82_hope the British stay, it makes travelling to there so easy now :D
15:08.24MonetI was about to go "Japan - Hentai for everyone!"
15:08.26HachimanSantorakhbar
15:08.30dino82_amongst other reasons :D
15:08.39XhoSantorakh - 10.0/10 have some cheese
15:08.54XhoDo I dare search 'dakimakura' on the web
15:09.09HachimanYes
15:09.14AdmiralPandaisn't htat just hte japanese word for body pillow?
15:09.15XhoOh wait waifu pillows
15:09.31Xho5/10 only half-cringed
15:09.35XhoI was expecting worse
15:09.50XhoStill dreadful though
15:09.57HachimanXho: https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p235x350/13233135_1722784197970058_2180342551834609205_n.jpg?oh=2d64b3f8c99db7972703caa4810223ab&oe=57D0F3AB How about full cringe
15:10.03XhoI saw that
15:10.07XhoI'm still struggling to work it out
15:14.27MonetAlthough the Eurozone crisis has laready doen a number on the Euro.
15:16.19HachimanHonestly, leaving the EU would just give our government more of an excuse to fuck over its public
15:16.32HachimanNot restore it to greatness like anti-EU groups believe
15:18.15XhoSo Russia is apparently developing military androids
15:18.19Xhothe end is near
15:18.37HachimanCykabots
15:18.55OluapPlayerBlyatron 9000
15:19.02MonetXho: ALso its threatening missie strikes if Poand and Ukrain position their missile shield 'too close' to Russian borders.
15:22.09HachimanI wonder
15:22.17HachimanWhat exactly are the Elder Scrolls?
15:22.38MonetBasically they predict the future
15:23.12MonetWhat is said on them is in flux until (and osmeone remind me which it is) what they say happens or whe nyou read it.
15:23.31MonetBut once you read an elder scroll, you go blind, only able to see what's on the scrolls.
15:24.21Wormy_So they are like the Akashic records?
15:25.31MonetPossibly
15:28.51MonetThough iirc you go blind because of some innate magic within the script.
15:29.38MonetA bit like the literary version of how hearing Cthulhu's voice drives you insane
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15:30.06DrodoEmpireHi everyone
15:30.36Monethi
15:30.49AdmiralPandaHachiman: they're basically time magic in physical form
15:32.05MonetThe ELder Scrolls prophesised the return of Alduin
15:33.03MonetAnd each game in the series contains an event the scrolls predicted to be one of five catalysts that would ehrald Alduin's return.
15:33.19Monetherald*
15:35.22MonetAnd like the Oracle of Delphi they precicted what woudl happen, but would say nothing about when, where and how.
15:35.56AdmiralPandathe scrolls predicted a lot of things tbh
15:36.14OluapPlayerTime to make Ref'kolar's Null State
15:36.17OluapPlayerThis should be interesting
15:36.19Hachimanaw yis
15:36.40HachimanAlso, Santa Claus apparently punched a man in the face at the Council of Nicaea
15:36.50HachimanOver a dispute about the nature of Jesus and God and their relationship
15:37.06DrodoEmpiresavage santa
15:37.12OluapPlayer#rud
15:37.12OluapPlayere
15:41.56MonetI get the feeling punching your fellow councilmen was a bit more common in ancient rome
15:42.14MonetNor rome sorry
15:42.43DrodoEmpireI think ancient governments were a bit more rowdy in general. >.<
15:42.46MonetActually nvm, yes Ancient ROme
15:42.59DrodoEmpireThough, I hear about crazy stuff in a lot of modern parliaments too
15:44.23MonetPunchouts are a rarity
15:44.56HachimanThings do get quite personal in parliament though
15:45.01DrodoEmpireYeah they are, but there's lots of jeering, yelling, and near-punchouts :p
15:45.12DrodoEmpireFrom what i hear
15:45.53Tek0516DrodoEmpire: #elbowgate:P
15:46.11DrodoEmpirehur
15:46.36MonetYeah modern parliaments are rowdy
15:46.51DrodoEmpireYeah, Canada's so boring a tiny little elbow by the PM turns into a national controversy :p
15:46.51MonetAnd there's lots of name-caliing
15:47.04DrodoEmpireWe're *just that bored*
15:47.45MonetBut at least Western politicans don't conspire to assasinate each other.
15:48.05DrodoEmpireYeah
15:48.35DrodoEmpireThough, they don't assassinate eachother probably because they're all too incompetent to pull it off :p
15:48.56OluapPlayerhttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/e/e2/Ref%27kolar_Demon_Form.png/revision/latest?cb=20160529154843 friendly giggling man
15:49.00OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: bwah
15:52.42MonetOr the public and meida is getting better at exposing crooked politicans
15:52.53Monetwhile they're still in power*
15:54.54Monetanyway change of subject
15:55.10MonetGiggles the 4-armed Loron
15:55.54OluapPlayerbah jo is always afk when I want her
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15:56.44The_RandomnessHello
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15:57.06DrodoEmpireHi
15:57.53MonetHello
15:58.00HachimanOluapPlayer: Oh wow, loving it
15:58.13HachimanThe colours and textures are especially good
15:58.27OluapPlayerThose are the colours of the old model
15:58.29OluapPlayerbut in HD
15:58.30MonetActually Ref's nickname jsut reminded me of how I had this one Orc in Shadow of Mordor that I called "Giggles"
15:58.43Tek0516there's an event going on here today so I get to see some neat stuff like the inside of Toronto's city hall. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/hwHc1Qfw/20160529_114432.jpg
15:59.17Monethttp://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/383161437197870642/F51249E536571C79870C5A60EC0C562B3C9000C3/ this handsome fucker
15:59.31HachimanHoly shit his face
16:00.06Xho"pick up the soap"
16:00.22OluapPlayerolol
16:01.23XhoOluapPlayer: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/d0/Explode.png/revision/latest?cb=20160529160052 How To: Fiction
16:01.27MonetYeah the eys really added to his wierness
16:01.36OluapPlayerlel
16:01.46MonetHe would basically communicate with huffs, snorts and chuckles.
16:06.33XhoHm what ot od
16:06.38XhoGood English Xho
16:06.38Xhogg
16:06.53Monethttp://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/416937800341955230/7DDEABF0DE85C6BCEC690A9E70C7A4EAEDD05944/ here's another mug
16:07.02OluapPlayerwork on [thing you'll say no]
16:07.54Monethttp://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/383161437197852810/19F8E081173121D3430A667C482D464E48E3E5CC/ I don't even know
16:08.21OluapPlayerPhotogenic orcs
16:09.07MonetGrofel we...
16:09.26MonetI think I jsut killed him because I thought he ws too much
16:12.43XhoHachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4vmOI5Zoh0
16:13.47Xho"falls apart easily            a lot like a vegan"
16:14.56HachimanMy God his face
16:15.11HachimanBut it's literally just him eating food
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16:16.18HachimanThat sandwich looks fucking awful though
16:17.02Xho"New video coming soon on main channel."
16:17.03Xhoguys halp
16:17.47OluapPlayer_what now
16:18.09HachimanNote the fact there is blood on his shirt
16:18.15HachimanFilthyFrank
16:18.20OluapPlayer_Oh
16:18.22OluapPlayer_meh to u
16:18.39XhoWhere's the blood from exactly
16:18.53HachimanI think we'll find out in his next video
16:18.59XhoI remember he had a ravioli stain but not blood
16:19.29HachimanI mean, he does shit with guys like maxmoefoe and iDubbz so
16:19.42HachimanIt's very likely he could have gotten blood on his shirt while working with them
16:20.15HachimanAt this point, I'm not even sure whether that blood is his own or not
16:21.48Wormy_As someone who is vegetarian, that sandwich looks crap even to me.  The bead was soggy, and the spinach or whatever it was, was wilted.
16:22.52Wormy_Though qourn which I don't think you can get in the US, is so meat-like now the meat eaters often eat it.  Its really annoying when meat eaters eat all the vegetarian options.
16:23.39XhoQuorn's alright
16:23.49XhoCan't beat a bit of TASTY TASTY MURDER
16:23.57Wormy_I think Quorn has egg in it, so vegans won'ttouch it
16:24.23XhoIf steak didn't exist I'd probably opt in for vegetarianism but, well steak
16:24.51OluapPlayer_animals is made for nom nom
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16:25.09XhoHi
16:25.12OluapPlayer_Hi
16:25.24dino82_have to go
16:25.25dino82_bye bye
16:28.40Tek0516http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1464533523-20160529.png I feel like today's SMBC represents something in SporeWiki but I'm not surewhat.
16:29.07Xhoheh
16:29.28Hachimanhur
16:29.52XhoDinner at the Aknatazán household
16:33.53MonetToo light tohugh.
16:39.59ImpyDroidOluapPlayer: The new Refk looks like he is about to give you a hug
16:40.35OluapPlayer_A bearhug maybe
16:58.44TheMEOWKingQuick question : Warp drive FTL and Hyperspace FTL are not considered the same thing, right ?
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17:06.53CyrannianHello
17:07.24OluapPlayer_~kidnap Cyrannian
17:07.24infobotACTION drives up in a non-descript white van, jumps out, shoves Cyrannian in the back, and drives off.
17:07.59Cyrannian~smash OluapPlayer_
17:07.59infobotACTION flings an anvil in OluapPlayer_'s general direction
17:08.16OluapPlayer_neraida war pls
17:08.42GhelawayTheMEOWKing: They're not exactly the same, no.
17:10.28GhelawayIn the SporeWikiverse, they're roughly based on the same underlying (and not very well-defined) physics, primarily because we need an excuse for FTL travel to be easy but time travel to not be.
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17:13.25TheMEOWKingI was wondering
17:13.28GhelawayTheMEOWKing: To answer your question on warp drive and hyperspace: they're not exactly the same, no.
17:13.30GhelawayIn the SporeWikiverse, they're roughly based on the same underlying (and not very well-defined) physics, primarily because we need an excuse for FTL travel to be easy but time travel to not be.
17:14.10TheMEOWKingOkay. I guess warp drives are "easier" but slower and hyperspace is "harder" but faster
17:14.16GhelawayYeah.
17:14.38TheMEOWKingSo, I was wondering if empires can actually go up tiers as time goes
17:15.08GhelawayYes. Usually when they trade and interact with each other, scientific and technical knowledge will spread between them too.
17:15.19TheMEOWKingThat's great
17:18.13TheMEOWKingDo we know during which exact year the fiction universe takes place?
17:18.41XhoIt's hovering around 2811
17:18.53Xho2811 - 2816 at the moment
17:18.58TheMEOWKingDoes it goes up as time goes?
17:19.05XhoYes
17:19.12TheMEOWKingWhen the wiki was founded
17:19.16XhoOluapPlayer_ Hachiman: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Dragon-Elf bork
17:19.22TheMEOWKingWhat year was the fiction universe set in?
17:19.24OluapPlayer_dats not a dog
17:19.27XhoWell, the Fictionverse was founded around 2009
17:19.46XhoThere were bits before it as well
17:19.51XhoBut main stories around 2009
17:20.08XhoIn-universe, year wise the first main stories began in the 2750s
17:20.20TheMEOWKingOkay
17:20.25TheMEOWKingThings are going fast
17:21.11XhoIt's not a constant flow
17:21.21XhoIf it was a constant flow, it would still be around 2780 - 2790
17:21.30TheMEOWKingOh, okay
17:21.35TheMEOWKingSo it can "skip time"
17:21.40XhoMore or less
17:21.55XhoThere was a steadly chronology not too long ago but now it's halted around 2811
17:22.18TheMEOWKingCompared to 2009, how active is the fictionverse?
17:22.35XhoMore than 2009
17:22.43TheMEOWKingWhen was the peak of activity?
17:22.50Xho2013 - 2014 I'd say
17:22.57Xho2016's been quiet
17:22.58TheMEOWKingAre we declining?
17:22.59XhoYes
17:23.00CyrannianI'd say 2010 and 2011
17:23.14TheMEOWKingI hope it's not gonna die
17:23.28XhoI dunno whether it's me being not very observant but the Fantasyverse is more active than the Fictionverse
17:23.39GhelawayActivity fluctuates. I don't think there's any risk of it dying soon.
17:23.39XhoAt least from what I see
17:23.49TheMEOWKingPhew
17:24.04XhoThere's more users on the IRC now than there were users in 2009
17:24.09XhoLet's put it that way
17:24.19TheMEOWKing:o
17:24.21TheMEOWKingXD
17:25.36OluapPlayer_Xho: gud work spu
17:25.48XhoI'm not sure how many Fictionverse 'original' users are still here
17:25.52Xhotnx
17:26.12TheMEOWKingWait
17:26.19TheMEOWKingIs there also wormhole travel?
17:26.23XhoYes
17:26.37TheMEOWKingI guess it's VERY VERY hard to achieve
17:26.41XhoIt's kind of necessary to branch the scale of the First Gigaquadrant
17:26.53XhoI dunno it seems quite run of the mill tech to me
17:26.59XhoThen again my run of the mill tech starts at Tier 1 so
17:27.03TheMEOWKingWithout it you're stuck to a galactic cluser I guess
17:27.04The_Randomness>_>
17:27.08GhelawayWormholes as static structures are fairly common.
17:27.12TheMEOWKingcluster*
17:27.20TheMEOWKingYeah but who know where they lead!
17:27.26GhelawayStarships that can produce their own temporary wormholes are less common.
17:27.28XhoThe_Randomness: get on my level tier 4 scrublord
17:27.47OluapPlayer_but 4 is a higher number than 1
17:27.49OluapPlayer_checkmate atheists
17:27.54The_Randomnessbites his tongue
17:27.56TheMEOWKingSoon the slukatian shall be Tier 1! Okay maybe not XD
17:28.05The_Randomnessyeah, no
17:28.07The_RandomnessDon't do that
17:28.09Xhowas outdone
17:28.11TheMEOWKingXD
17:28.14GhelawayActually, the starships themselves probably vastly outnumber the permanent wormholes. But the number of civilisations that *use* permanent wormholes is large.
17:28.17TheMEOWKingI'm not sure they even want to be Tier 1
17:28.41XhoThe Fictionverse doesn't present any more stuff for me to do now so I'm 100% Fantasyverse nowadays
17:29.59XhoI ran all of my stuff into the ground and I'm too lazy to dig it up
17:30.14Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Selanius - c finished paeg
17:30.31TheMEOWKingI wonder if there is an empire even more light-hearted than mine, the Slukatians
17:30.41XhoBesides I've never been too interested in the futuristic element of the Fantasyverse aside from the aesthetics
17:31.06OluapPlayer_gud work waptor
17:31.13Cyrannianquote dis
17:31.17Ghelaway"The pull of the Neraida is the pull of a black hole" - stable orbits around black holes, not falling in for billions of years, are actually pretty easy. :P
17:31.20OluapPlayer_"dum" -Khuenaten
17:31.43CyrannianObviously he was referring to magical black holes, Ghel
17:32.25GhelawayAh, of course.
17:32.37TheMEOWKingWhich galaxy is the most populated? The Milky Way?
17:32.46OluapPlayer_“I wish to radically dislocate your limbs.”
17:32.51OluapPlayer_Thaurlathron - #rude
17:32.59GhelawayMilky Way and Mirus have the most users, I think.
17:34.07GhelawayActual number of populated planets? I'm not sure.
17:34.45GhelawayThe Milky Way got hit pretty hard in the Tigris War. Or, at least, it's supposed to have been.
17:35.08OluapPlayer_It did but only if it wants to
17:36.51XhoAngazhar - suck it, winter garden
17:38.51GhelawayThe Cyrannus Galaxy page seems to imply that a minimum of 30 million planets are inhabited (from the "Species and Races" section), but with a possible total of 23% of "several trillion" (number of stars in infobox).
17:39.18GhelawayFor all of its wars, I imagine Cyrannus is actually the most populous.
17:40.55OluapPlayer_It definitely wins in number of recorded species
17:42.34XhoTigris definitely doesn't    #oooooooooh
17:45.07CyrannianAnd it's all because of my caffeine addiction
17:45.21CyrannianI think Dino probably has the most characters though
17:45.40CyrannianCertainly more than me
17:45.52OluapPlayer_I remember counting once and I have over a hundred characters
17:46.06OluapPlayer_Including minor pageless stuff that is
17:46.15Xho2much4myattentionspan
17:46.28OluapPlayer_step the fuck up senpai
17:48.29CyrannianThere are 119 characters on my navbox with pages, though a couple of those are either owned or shared by other users
17:48.48Xhocba to count
17:49.42XhoI have 50 - 60 Fantasyverse characters
17:49.56CyrannianOluapPlayer_: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Zegoroa - Look what I found
17:50.16OluapPlayer_Wow
17:50.24OluapPlayer_That's old school stuff right tehre
17:50.29OluapPlayer_I didn't remember it anymore
17:53.40Xhoremember the fuck up senpai
17:53.45XhoDoesn't work so well like that
17:53.48XhoEh I tried
17:53.54OluapPlayer_u tryd
17:54.00Xhodyd
17:54.02Xhoqq
17:54.10XhoHachiman: u available now
17:54.34HachimanNope
17:54.40Xhowat u doin
17:55.48XhoIn unrelated news I decided to add what is possibly the biggest fangirl of mine on Steam
17:55.55XhoThis was 5/10 regrettable
17:56.00Cyrannianoluap
17:56.05OluapPlayer_ey
17:56.25OluapPlayer_Xho: I did notice someone called "Nightmare Medic Girl" in your friends list
17:56.37OluapPlayer_I was somewhat scared when I found out they have a whole Steam group
17:56.51XhoFunnily enough I joined it and was instantly promoted to admin
17:56.54Xhopower of the niin meem
17:57.14XhoEveryone in there is harmless really
17:57.39Cyrannianhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Du%27utahrovin - magic space dragon
17:58.01XhoVixaatus - [triggered]
17:58.39OluapPlayer_dergon of space because reasons
17:59.50XhoWell looking on Steam there's at least nine users naming themselves after Nightmare Medic
17:59.54Xhofans everywhere
18:00.06OluapPlayer_nine niins
18:00.08OluapPlayer_niin niins
18:00.12Xhonine inch niins
18:01.13XhoAll the other admins in that group that I met over TF2 seem to be all courteous enough
18:01.29XhoAlthough I appear to be the oldest user by a rather hefty margin
18:02.29OluapPlayer_Unsurprising
18:04.37XhoAnother thing is that I'm also treated like some sort of deity for creating Nightmare Medic
18:04.40Xhotis funi
18:05.04XhoEspecially going on the Freak Fortress 2 servers as well
18:06.25OluapPlayer_fits u            cus ur a freak
18:12.35Xhoyes
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18:38.01OluapPlayer_God I'm bored
18:39.18Cyrannianhi bored I'm cyrannian
18:39.50Wormy_Waptor Gawd
18:57.07ImperiosGod I'm tired
18:57.37ImperiosI wish we could switch hur
19:09.20Xhogo snoozy then
19:11.47Cyrannianhttp://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/d/df/Aenar%C3%B3.png/revision/latest?cb=20160529191135 - c yoda thing
19:12.20Xhoyoda thing i have seen
19:15.59OluapPlayer_For a second I thought his hat was his hands holding a leaf
19:26.45Wormy_:( http://www.wired.com/2016/05/no-mans-sky-delayed/
19:26.57Wormy_I was so looking forward to playing that all summer
19:27.44Cyranniansadfaic
19:28.26Xhoopens up the gates of hell
19:31.25Wormy_I got myself F4, so there is that to play.
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19:33.03ImperiosCyrannian: That's like if Maz and Yoda had a baby
19:35.41Xhohttp://static4.gamespot.com/uploads/scale_super/1179/11799911/2947193-1.jpg Spartan Batman looking like something out of the Fantasyverse
19:36.52HachimanJesus
19:36.53HachimanI love it
19:37.07XhoSomeone my sister knows does cosplay as a hobby and he did Spartan Batman
19:38.07Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13095986_10154879266537516_4135708643282568183_n.jpg?oh=b3057ae89d242559dc7fd945008ff830&oe=57CB2B36 Not too bad I must say
19:39.48XhoAnyway I'm bored
19:43.29Xho"Germany: 35 Injured After Lightning Strikes Football Pitch in Hoppstaedten"
19:43.31Xhogood lord
19:46.03OluapPlayer_ded people
19:59.52ImperiosCyrannian: https://65.media.tumblr.com/590db4608c8518df092e5dcb834ba834/tumblr_o0g8y8Dxbs1sicomxo1_500.jpg
20:00.19ImperiosXho: Is his antagonist Joxerxes I though
20:02.50XhoPossibly
20:16.24ImperiosXho: http://cs7005.vk.me/v7005932/37699/67pX9zjAJto.jpg
20:16.47Xhothe fuck
20:18.37ImperiosXho: http://cs543100.vk.me/v543100935/216f6/UHv7JgLfcjQ.jpg watched TV for 2 hours / decided to destroy mankind
20:19.24Xhomah nigga
20:31.18OluapPlayer_dead day dead wiki
20:31.48MonetI don't normally do this then but
20:31.56Monethttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Red_Crusade#Digging_Out_Secrets to break the boredom
20:37.50XhoKithworto - no no no what are you doin
20:40.12MonetYarda - Cleaning up a shithole
20:43.04MonetYarda - Can't speak for Kragh though.
20:43.12HachimanKragh - rawr
20:44.55XhoKithworto - listen here u lil shits
20:46.25MonetYarda - All the Zazane are killing each other though.
20:46.47ImperiosMonet: Draconizane     more like Dickonizane
20:47.06Imperioshttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:TheImperios/Stuff#Divinarium_anthem I also made a thing
20:47.50Xhodam holyrat
20:50.16ImperiosXho Hachiman: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1464554553656.png
20:50.32ImperiosXho: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1464548410101.png
20:51.16Xhokill urself
20:52.21ImperiosOr rather, Gas urself
20:52.44Hachimanhttps://media.giphy.com/media/l3UciJVIJmQcG9Q1q/giphy.gif Holy shit my sides
20:54.45Xho#savage
20:55.01XhoSo I've bought a rare pedal and it's being shipped to me from Japan
20:55.11XhoNext thing I see is that a clone of it has just been sold in the UK
20:55.16XhoMy anger levels are rising
21:00.32XhoThat being said I am getting the real deal
21:00.34XhoNot all bad
21:02.15MonetI sort of wonder about GTA heist members osmetimes
21:02.26HachimanHow so?
21:02.29MonetI had one person join my mission who was leve l3
21:02.34Monet3*
21:02.48MonetWe were assaulting an aircraft carrier
21:03.32MonetAll this woman would have had is a pistol.
21:04.33MonetNot only were we assaulting an aircraft carrier we needed ot steal some jets
21:05.34HachimanJesus
21:05.49MonetNormally I like that mission
21:06.22MonetRaid US Military property, everyone steals jets, takes on the USAF and flies home to the tune of Danger Zone.
21:07.30XhoI woke up to that one morning this week
21:07.40XhoImmediately thought of Archer
21:08.17Hachimankek
21:08.57XhoI've got this weird thing about multiplayer games
21:09.09XhoI refuse to play them without having a friend to play it with
21:09.14XhoI can't go on multiplayer games by myself
21:09.35XhoI dunno how I can get anxiety playing a multiplayer game which is fucking stupid
21:09.49OluapPlayer_I get that too
21:09.58OluapPlayer_Games just aren't as fun with strangers
21:10.41XhoPerhaps if I was a god-tier gamer messing up scrubs it would be a different story
21:11.01OluapPlayer_then you'd be a friendless tryhard hur
21:11.44Xhobut i'd be better dan everyone
21:11.48Xhodat bein easy not tryhard
21:12.05XhoI am a tryhard though considering I suck at most multiplayer games
21:12.10XhoExcept Halo
21:12.29XhoTeam Fortress 2 is one game I've never been good at nor will I ever be good at
21:12.35XhoPC controls aren't natural to me
21:13.03OluapPlayer_I've never been good in any multiplayer games i've played. I play for fun's sake, not skill
21:13.19XhoIt's not fun if you're not skilled at it though
21:13.25XhoAt least in my experience
21:13.34XhoI'm good at MvM however
21:13.36Hachimanlmao playing games for fun what a fagit fun is for people who arent good at games lol
21:13.39Xhobest medic 2015
21:13.46OluapPlayer_There's skill and there's competence
21:13.50XhoRight
21:13.54OluapPlayer_I'm a competent player, but I'm not skilled
21:13.55XhoWell I'm very incompetent at TF2
21:14.06XhoWay too much stuff going on
21:14.32OluapPlayer_I finished the whole Dark Souls trilogy, but if I fight other players I'll get kicked about 90% of the time
21:15.01XhoI can do Freak Fortress well enough
21:15.14XhoBut that's on the basis that you're a character with 10,000 HP and seriously high damage
21:15.37OluapPlayer_My experience with boss mode TF2 is getting stuck in a corner via sentry knockback
21:15.46OluapPlayer_Only played those a handful of times
21:16.22Xhodreadful
21:16.35XhoNightmare Medic as a boss is quite mid-tier but dangerous at close raneg
21:16.36Xhorange
21:16.39Xhobig fuckin sword c
21:16.57MonetXho: Well for GTA stuff you have me:>
21:17.02XhoThis is true
21:17.07XhoI'm extremely incompetent at GTA though
21:17.21MonetI stay out of PvP
21:17.23XhoLike, I look like a quadriplegic trying to to a handstand
21:17.40MonetDo you have a controller for PC?
21:18.16MonetCould make things easier
21:18.33XhoI have a wired Xbox 360 controller lying around here somewhere
21:18.46XhoAh here it is
21:18.53OluapPlayer_KB+M master race
21:20.26ImperiosAm I the only person here who just plain does not like consoles
21:20.51XhoI'm sure there's more than one
21:21.01OluapPlayer_You're never the only one
21:21.13MonetXho: You'll need this https://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/d/xbox-360-controller-for-windows
21:21.22XhoI was a console gamer before a PC gamer so I'll probably never properly acclimatise to PC controls
21:21.23ImperiosWell I probably am not
21:21.30XhoMonet: Pretty sure I have it
21:21.35ImperiosI am just looking for fellow master race ppl plz
21:22.02MonetXho: A just-in-case then
21:22.15OluapPlayer_I exclusively play on PC, but it's partially because I can't afford consoles
21:22.27OluapPlayer_I can't afford PC games, let alone games for other platforms
21:22.36Xhoget job dam u
21:22.45OluapPlayer_NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
21:22.48XhoNAO
21:23.19MonetGit jiob git muneh
21:23.42Xhoc
21:24.22XhoWell you've got experience in other jobs and qualifications so you have a chance of getting one you apply for
21:24.41OluapPlayer_I don't want to talk about jobs
21:25.40Xhoy u no do dis
21:28.10TechnobliteratorSo, I'm late, but I finally saw Civil War
21:28.12TechnobliteratorPretty good film
21:28.17Xhowell done
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21:31.27TechnobliteratorI'm going to need to take my PC apart in a bit
21:31.29Technobliteratorto install a wifi card
21:31.41Xhodreadful
21:38.36HachimanXho: https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13307390_880746252048501_5281978783632923080_n.jpg?oh=53457fa6f850308107578d122debdcde&oe=57C9FC6E "Being choked to death while making love to Petyr Baelish"
21:39.15Xho"Being killed by a boar after getting drunk thanks to Jaime Lannister"
21:39.35AdmiralPandaStabbed while making love to Daenerys Targaryen
21:39.37AdmiralPandacould be worse
21:40.24HachimanTrue
21:42.10OluapPlayer_Having a rat encouraged to borrow into your chest by Hodor
21:42.11OluapPlayer_hodor
21:42.25AdmiralPandaI can't actually remember who dies that way
21:42.36XhoTorture victims
21:42.45XhoThe torturers being led by the Mountain
21:43.17HachimanYeah
21:43.24AdmiralPandathat would be why, side characters
21:43.32XhoOluapPlayer: I thought it would be Joffrey
21:44.01HachimanThey put a rat in a bucket, held it against your chest, and then heated the bottom of the bucket so the rat has to eat into your chest so as to not get burned
21:44.07HachimanOr at least, that is what I recall
21:44.14XhoHaving a rat encouraged to burrow into your chest by Joffrey Baratheon makes a lot of sense
21:44.29OluapPlayer_My last name starts with S
21:44.31OluapPlayer_So Hodor
21:44.40Xhomy entire life has been a lie
21:44.40Hachimanhodor
21:44.52XhoHOLD THE DOOR
21:45.06AdmiralPandaDEVIANT HERETICAL PANDERING TO THE MASSES
21:45.10AdmiralPandaoh wait we said the same thing
21:45.21HachimanActually
21:45.21OluapPlayer_heretical
21:45.23OluapPlayer_is dis 40k
21:45.31XhoHOLD THE DOOR
21:45.33HachimanGRRM worked on that with the producers
21:45.39OluapPlayer_get on the floor
21:45.40HachimanIt was his idea
21:45.42OluapPlayer_everybody walk the dinosaur
21:45.56AdmiralPandathe whole "hold the door" thing came about because fans came up with a theory for Hodor's name, based on the fact that the actor has a scar
21:46.05Xho"Let me show you the dance of my people" - Cyrannian, 2016
21:46.13AdmiralPandanow the scene in the movie does not directly correlate to the theory, but that's how it came about
21:46.46AdmiralPandafurthermore, Hodor does not have a scar in the books, so the whole thing is heresy born from a makeup choice to cover up a tattoo :P
21:47.02XhoAs if the books have any relation to the TV series as of Season 5
21:47.07HachimanI think it's already been confirmed though that GoT was deviating from the book
21:47.08Hachimanbooks
21:47.17XhoSeason 6 well
21:47.19HachimanLike, intentionally
21:47.22XhoSeason 6 is Season 6
21:47.29OluapPlayer_Unless that chart doesn't include surnames
21:47.36OluapPlayer_In that case it'd be this Joffrey fellow
21:47.42AdmiralPandaoh the TV series is very much deviating
21:48.01AdmiralPandawhich I don't mind, it just concerns me that it may deviate from the intent of the series, which would be ULTIMATE HERESY
21:48.13XhoOluapPlayer_: Joffrey would fit a lot better considering he's the epitome of a sadistic psychopath
21:48.21HachimanAnd a whiny cunt
21:48.23OluapPlayer_hodor
21:48.32AdmiralPandaJoffrey isn't really sadistic, he's just a psychopathic, entitled twat
21:48.44XhoWell he disembowels a cat in the books
21:48.47HachimanJoffrey is like the Draco Malfoy of GoT
21:49.07HachimanIt's funny because they're both stuck-up shitty whiny nobles
21:49.10XhoRamsay Bolton is an actual sadistic psychopath
21:49.14AdmiralPandaHachiman: at least Draco is sympathetic
21:49.20HachimanIs he?
21:49.44AdmiralPandahis whole attitude arises from his family basically, when it comes down to it he's in way over his head and he knows it
21:49.56ImpyDroidHi
21:49.56AdmiralPandaat least in the later few books
21:50.13ImpyDroidXho: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Coat_National_Bolshevik_Party.svg/250px-Coat_National_Bolshevik_Party.svg.png This is officially the best emblem ever
21:50.26HachimanAs far as I know, he doesn't even show his confidence and just finds a way to coward out of the war instead of helping the protagonists
21:50.29XhoWhat in the world
21:50.47AdmiralPandaprettymuch
21:50.52HachimanI mean I get that he was in over his head and he wanted a way out, but he's still not exactly redeemed of being a fuckwad
21:51.16AdmiralPandaoh he's not redeemed, but what I said is you can sympathise with the guy- ain't doin that with Joffrey
21:52.08Xho"He openly enjoys abusive practices such as having young women stripped naked and released into the Bolton forests, before hunting them with a pack of feral dogs. He gives a quick death to women who give him good sport (after raping them first), then flays their corpses."
21:52.12XhoRamsay isn't nice
21:52.31HachimanFlaying is not exactly a practice exclusive to Ramsay though
21:52.38HachimanThe Boltons in general are sadistic fuckers
21:52.47XhoRamsay is a cut above the rest though
21:52.59HachimanQuite literally actually
21:53.06Xhodoi
21:54.42OluapPlayer_Anyway we were on about Irsk earlier so I remade his pigs http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/a5/Iowroi_Ast%27ut.png/revision/latest?cb=20160529215417
21:55.01AdmiralPandagiven that the Boltons literally have a flayed dude as their heraldic icon, yeah, they're nuts
21:55.14AdmiralPandaI like to think once upon a time their banners were actual flayed men
21:55.17Xhosnortlesnortle
21:55.20Hachimanpug
21:55.45XhoThe fact their seat of power is called the Dreadfort
21:56.20ImpyDroidare you talking about Got?
21:56.50HachimanYeah
21:57.01ImpyDroidOluapPlayer: Oink for the Oink God
21:57.52HachimanAlso, apparently people in the UK are furious after watching an act on a national television talent show performing an actual life-threatening stunt with a safety wire
21:58.39HachimanAs in, would have certainly died if he fucked up and didn't have one
22:00.27HachimanAct involved the guy sliding down a pole towards an active chainsaw with his hands tied behind his back and using only his feet as a means of support
22:00.52OluapPlayer_That does sound incredibly stupid
22:00.58MonetX factor really went downhill.
22:01.38HachimanBritain's Got Talent, not X Factor hur
22:02.04HachimanX Factor is still shit though
22:02.10HachimanSo is BGT now that I think about it
22:02.53XhoBritish TV is just generally shit
22:03.17HachimanPeaky Blinders is supposed to be good
22:03.33HachimanPeriod British gangster stuff
22:04.26Hachimanhttps://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13327477_1583772761652171_6241118997648976939_n.jpg?oh=b78537aefa43504b0d58e4c5831b053b&oe=580EE5EF
22:05.17XhoThat is a good show
22:05.23AdmiralPandathat's not a picture of a rubbish bin though
22:05.36XhoI watched most of Season 2
22:05.42XhoOr Series 2
22:05.44XhoI dunno
22:05.54HachimanIt's Series 2 because brit
22:05.59HachimanSeason is for Americunts
22:09.16ImpyDroidCor blimey
22:09.16OluapPlayer_http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/5/58/Capastrus_the_Emotionless.png/revision/latest?cb=20160529220859 evil oink
22:09.31Hachimanedgy pug
22:09.43ImpyDroidOluapPlayer_: Throw Angry Birds at him
22:09.51HachimanShu'wok?
22:09.56XhoShu'pork
22:10.02OluapPlayer_The angry bird is already on his side
22:10.15XhoI made myself laugh there
22:16.38XhoMy cat really needs to shut up at this time of night
22:16.43XhoShe comes in and just meows
22:16.46XhoAnd meows
22:17.26Hachimanhttps://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13321689_1749216985317216_3660970041750723033_n.jpg?oh=03e2c31c0215b772f3e8e0a6ca6a52e6&oe=57D9B0F9
22:17.37XhoStraight outta Borderlands
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22:19.47dino82_hi all
22:20.02Monethi
22:23.02OluapPlayer_http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/5/5d/Capastrus_Demon_Form.png/revision/latest?cb=20160529222241 evillest oink
22:24.17HachimanThat's pretty freaky
22:26.12MonetOluapPlayer_: Could you do one for Arsac?
22:26.33OluapPlayer_Arsac is your char tho
22:27.00MonetYeah but you make better demons than me.
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22:27.54OluapPlayer_Guess I could then
22:27.56The_RandomnessHello
22:28.01OluapPlayer_But perhaps tomorrow or later
22:29.16dino82_Hi Random!
22:29.44The_RandomnessHey
22:37.48dino82_Howz all doing!
22:38.28DrodoEmpireGood, good
22:38.41The_RandomnessI'm doing well, just sitting in queue for something in FFXIV
22:39.48dino82_oh nice!
22:42.44The_Randomnessayy, queue popped
22:42.50The_Randomnesssee you guys in a little bit
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23:10.59DrodoEmpire~seen Yuggy04
23:11.00infobotDrodoEmpire: i haven't seen 'yuggy04'
23:11.12DrodoEmpire~seen Yuggy
23:11.13infobotDrodoEmpire: i haven't seen 'yuggy'
23:20.18Wormy_http://curi.us/1856-dancing-sucks
23:23.17DrodoEmpire?
23:23.45DrodoEmpireRight, dancing is a cultural thing, and culture and values should be taught in school. Plus, its good exercise :p
23:25.16The_Randomness"I like Ayn Rand" - WutFace
23:25.54Wormy_Some elements of the thread is agreeable.  I.e. dace is seen as free and creative, yet it is instructed and stagnated by strict cultural and perhaps biologicall values.
23:26.53Wormy_However, that it makes good exercise and good coordination, and indeed is fun even if its mostly useless, cannot be addressed bythat argument.
23:27.22DrodoEmpireDance *isn't* always free-flowing, though. Some dances are strict and have strict standards, and that's fine because standards and discipline is important. :p
23:27.28Wormy_<PROTECTED>
23:27.38DrodoEmpireAnd its not mostly useless unless you think culture is mostly useless
23:27.42DrodoEmpireAnd that's an absurd position
23:27.47The_Randomnessyeah
23:27.51The_RandomnessI'm with Drodo here
23:28.52Wormy_I believe no cultural standards should be beyond criticism, and there is far too much strict "teacher is right" phenomenon in modern education.
23:29.38DrodoEmpireYou're right, they *aren't* beyond criticism, but that's a long way from saying that dance, as an activity, is useless
23:29.53Wormy_Maybe some of its current forms are.
23:30.02DrodoEmpireWhy? Who're you to say?
23:30.04Wormy_And enforced by these strict values
23:30.07Wormy_Just sayin
23:30.18DrodoEmpireI don't like all cultures, but I'm not going to criticise the concept of culture for it
23:30.49Wormy_I'm merely open to the question and perspective offered by the thread.  Though I don't agree with most of its content.
23:30.55DrodoEmpireRight
23:30.58The_RandomnessRight
23:31.03HachimanRight
23:31.07The_RandomnessLeft
23:31.10DrodoEmpireUp
23:31.11Wormy_Top
23:31.15The_RandomnessDown
23:31.19Wormy_Bottom
23:31.29Wormy_Top-Left
23:31.31DrodoEmpireNorth
23:32.59XhoNO DIRECTION               EXCEPT THE VOID
23:33.06XhoWell someone had to do it
23:33.43DrodoEmpire>:
23:33.49The_Randomnessedgy
23:33.51The_Randomness?
23:33.54Wormy_To put it in perspective, sometimes when there is music playing in the pub and I've lost my inhibitions to alcohol, I might get up and make dance movements.  It is probably entirely culture that influences me to make that choice.  Am I acting like a rational human being when I find myself become victim to memetic rythems?
23:33.56Xhou kno it snoflake
23:34.38Wormy_Then again, maybe that's just overthinking things.
23:35.11DrodoEmpireI think you are :p
23:36.25DrodoEmpireCulture isn't some awful prison, its an experience and a set of values. Like it or not, culture is what made you who you are and is a part of you- you did not fall victim to it.
23:37.37DrodoEmpireAnd, like a cliched antagonist from a horror film, there's no escaping it :p
23:37.48Wormy_I agree, but we can make choices that select for memes that are highly positive to the human experience, particularly those open to the acquisition and communication of knowledge.
23:38.14Wormy_There are different species of meme that have different effects on culture
23:38.22Wormy_Some are dynamic and others more static
23:38.29DrodoEmpirefresh and spicy, but moving on
23:38.41DrodoEmpireas well as dank <.<
23:39.19Wormy_The scientific method is a dynamic part of society where memes are selected for being both open  to new knowledge, as well as criticism.
23:39.29Wormy_For example
23:39.29DrodoEmpireIn all seriousness, this isn't so much of an argument anymore as I don't disagree
23:39.44DrodoEmpireI understand memetics and how it relates to culture
23:41.08Wormy_I'm inclined to believe there is probably a more open ended solution to dance.  But maybe dance as we see in pop music, drunken silliness, and the dance taught in school is not.  I can't say this for certain as at this point, I don't know whether thats true.
23:41.18Wormy_But pop music sure looks and sounds the same :P
23:42.11Wormy_Open ended solution to dance rather than declaring it all useless
23:42.29DrodoEmpireRight, well then there's the radical theory that dance isn;t itself a problem, and its done for entertainment and maintenance of culture
23:42.32DrodoEmpire<.<
23:42.50DrodoEmpireIts done for one or both reasons
23:43.19MonetPop music tends to be made for different reasons than more traditional msic forms
23:43.39DrodoEmpire^ that too
23:43.45Wormy_Well yeah, pop music sells and it doesn't that matter that it isn't actually that good
23:44.50Wormy_it entertains without having to extend energy into thinking about it, etc.
23:48.45Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz5UTprkIX0
23:54.45XhoOluapPlayer_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id8Zb_vn8Lk
23:55.04OluapPlayer_wot

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