IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160514

00:22.05Wormy_Gawd I hate rendering
00:22.11Wormy_I made a rookie mistake
00:23.19Wormy_Batch rendered a scene from one camera (forgot to render from 2 cameras), changed camera, rendered again, and forgot to change the folder destination.  The first render was destroyed.
00:24.12Wormy_To add to my woes, I had just cleaned up about 2 dozen frames where my graphics card or whatever failed and rendered a black screen, by a copying the previous frame
00:27.24MonetOuch.
00:27.50MonetHow long did each batch take to render?
00:30.01Wormy_Fortunately, not too long
00:32.11The_RandomnessOh, that's good
00:33.28Wormy_Well, it wasn't the first problem I had.  The first problem was that I did it in Mental Ray, but the colour balance f'd up.  I couldn't be bothered to fix that, so did Hardware rendering and discovered this flickering behaviour
00:33.54Wormy_I also had to play with the settings and hardware buffer so that it could render particles
00:34.34Wormy_I had to manually get rid of the broken frames 3 times
00:48.56The_RandomnessThat sounds like it must have been annoying
00:55.02Wormy_The_Randomness, Monet, Drodo:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q9ScUY_9C4
00:55.03DrodoEmpireAyy I'm back
00:55.07Wormy_hi
00:55.25DrodoEmpireDid a charcoal barbecue with the family
00:55.35DrodoEmpireJesus *Christ* did the steak ever turn out well
00:55.38DrodoEmpireAnyway
00:56.15DrodoEmpireWormy_: In Best Korea, maturity is *banned*!
00:56.21Wormy_I like putting jacket potatoes in tinfoil in the fire
00:56.29DrodoEmpireYeah same
00:56.33Wormy_lol
00:57.45DrodoEmpiretest
00:58.55Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/PkL86
00:59.52DrodoEmpireFreshest meme 2016
01:00.17Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/of9wdOk
01:00.52DrodoEmpireolol
01:14.37Wormy_night
03:18.06TekDroidSo apparently my Stellaris empire is so attractive that due to immigration 1/6th of one alien species lives in my empire.
03:18.54The_RandomnessSeemsGood
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10:55.48ImperiosHi
10:55.55ImperiosLiquid_Ink: http://pre00.deviantart.net/fb88/th/pre/i/2014/250/c/6/the_confederate_socialist_states_of_america_by_regicollis-d7yacec.png God what
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11:00.37Wormy_hi
11:07.42Liquid_InkImpy: Paradox!
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11:10.29Wormy_Monet:  This makes me angry http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/springwatch-host-chris-packham-branded-7956600
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11:13.25JepardiHi
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11:13.31MonetHi
11:13.33HachimanHi
11:13.39ImperiosHi
11:14.12MonetWormy_: Sounds like typical macho BS.
11:14.41HachimanEh?
11:15.25Wormy_Looking at Hunting Solutions' bigoted tweets of people with disabilities, reminds me why I can't fucking stand hunter-types
11:15.35Wormy_http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/springwatch-host-chris-packham-branded-7956600
11:16.00MonetHachiman: A hunting club called Chris Packham a nutjob after he slammed grouse shooting for sport.
11:16.19Wormy_Don't forget a major MP did
11:17.26MonetI applaud Mark Avery's stance. But that picture of him reminds me so much of John Prescott.
11:17.52Wormy_When my Dad was a conservationist, he worke with  Chris Packam
11:21.46Monetcool
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11:50.10XhoTrigglyworm
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11:50.38Liquid_InkYou fight the establishment Wormy.
11:50.50Wormy_its fun
11:51.28XhoHi
11:53.03OluapPlayercaw
11:53.52XhoI can't stop watching that Trigglypuff video
11:53.57XhoCracks me up
11:54.25OluapPlayerXho Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J1Y-SmZAtg
11:55.15XhoEschaton final boss confirmed
11:55.38OluapPlayerCaligaduro - OH DIS IS BAD
11:57.18XhoCaligaduro's true from is an airbone Russian with a minigun
11:57.19XhoMakes sense
11:57.24Xhoairborne
11:57.34XhoMissing letters left right and centre
11:58.21OluapPlayerBONE
11:58.43Xhoairbone
11:58.47Xho"INCOMING" - Tibias
11:58.50OluapPlayerAlso gets killed by Thomas the Tank Engine
11:59.10XhoNdrhthryr - choo choo motherfucker
11:59.32XhoOh god now I'm imagining Ndrhthryr's real face is Thomas the Tank Engine rather than a corpse
11:59.50OluapPlayerNd - does this look like the face of mercy
12:01.10XhoMhor - looks like the face of a lost bet         kek
12:02.37OluapPlayerNd - dum giant dog
12:07.57OluapPlayerXho Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BB1-TTjlwg it continues
12:08.38HachimanWhat the fuck
12:39.21OluapPlayery so ded
12:47.54Xhotoo much mod
12:48.14OluapPlayerMonet Hachiman: http://i.4cdn.org/v/1463198544977.png
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13:00.48GhelaeHello.
13:01.04Wormy_<PROTECTED>
13:01.09Wormy_hi
13:05.02Wormy_But people are retweeting me!
13:05.08Wormy_Mwah hah the power of Twitter
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13:23.51HachimanHoly shit that dwarf
13:27.47Wormy_Most of the non-SporeWiki people that follow me on Twitter seem to be girls in bikinis
13:28.09OluapPlayerThey're bots
13:28.19Wormy_Maybe because of my nerdy tweets...  And the assumption that I must be single
13:28.26Wormy_Oh right, maybe
13:28.40OluapPlayerAll hope shattered right there
13:28.51Wormy_No really, they aren't a hope
13:29.15Wormy_It annoys me.  I created that account to talk to scientists and not a single one I've talked to follow me
13:30.19OluapPlayerMost people who use twitter don't reply to every comment they get
13:30.23OluapPlayerEspecially big name people
13:30.50Wormy_Thats true, but I have managed to get some replies.
13:31.36Wormy_<PROTECTED>
13:32.08Wormy_Networking is an art
13:33.00Wormy_Actually all the successful networking I've done was fasce to face or through emails.
14:08.51OluapPlayerMonet: http://dwarffortresswiki.org/images/3/3b/Cat_singularity.png meow
14:15.05Wormy_Assassin's Creed Movie trailer > Half the film will be him pick pocketing people
14:16.58TechnobliteratorIt's a film of a video game, so I have little faith
14:17.14XhoOluapPlayer: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=684181566 let it be known you can go DEUS VULT
14:17.38OluapPlayer[crusading increases]
14:18.12Wormy_Hachi:  Angry Gorilla charging at man who has no choice but to stand still https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umokxn3Vc38
14:21.45MonetA film of a video game that placed high priority on story*
14:22.37MonetIt might be good it might flop, I'll see how well Warcraft does.
14:27.15TechnobliteratorThat doesn't mean anything
14:27.19TechnobliteratorI don't have a lot of faith
14:27.48TechnobliteratorTomb Raider placed a lot on story as well and those films weren't great
14:29.28MonetThere used to be a time when comic book movies sucked.
14:29.40Wormy_Meh, even if a film is not great, doesn't mean it can't be entertaining
14:29.45MonetThen we got Batman Beigns and the MCU.
14:32.00TechnobliteratorWe got Spider-Man before that
14:32.13TechnobliteratorI'm not saying it will definitely be bad
14:32.19TechnobliteratorBut I don't have a lot of faith in it being good
14:33.22MonetWhat I'm saying is I don't think video game movies will suck forever.
14:34.47TechnobliteratorMost fans thought the R&C film was enjoyable
14:34.49TechnobliteratorAnd so did I
14:34.53TechnobliteratorBut it wasn't a great film
14:36.32XhoThe Resident Evil films are alright, if you don't mind escapist nonsense
14:36.56Monet"enjoyable" is better than "wtf did they do?"
14:37.06TechnobliteratorOf course
14:37.21HachimanI am still convinced that Halo is good film or series potential
14:37.24Wormy_My standards are pretty low though, I think I enjoyed Sharkoctupus
14:38.14TechnobliteratorI'm still convinced Halo is the most overrated series of all time, but this is not a popular opinion
14:38.33XhoEh Halo's alright
14:38.46TechnobliteratorHalo 3's campaign was fun
14:38.54XhoThe first three are good, Reach and ODST are good as well but 4 was flat
14:39.05XhoHaven't bothered with 5
14:39.09Technobliteratorand the multiplayer is probably my favourite of any FPS
14:39.14HachimanYeah, anything beyond Reach and ODST is non-canon to me
14:39.19TechnobliteratorBut I always found the campaigns really dull
14:40.16TechnobliteratorI don't have much faith in an Uncharted film, even if I think the Uncharted series was just the most amazing thing ever
14:40.22TechnobliteratorOr a Metal Gear film
14:40.55TechnobliteratorI actually have no faith in Metal Gear anything other than a remake of one of the games with no more Kojima
14:45.16OluapPlayerStupidly slow day, nothing to do and nothing to play
14:45.23OluapPlayerAccidental rhyme there
14:47.38XhoOluapPlayer: Spitting mad bars since two minutes ago
14:47.40Wormy_Maybe you become a rapper
14:47.46Technobliteratorbleh
14:47.52Technobliteratorhaving to memorise laws for cybercrime
14:47.54Technobliteratorso annoying
14:48.24Technobliteratorour cyber laws are really bad
14:50.36MonetActually I'd be surprised if an Uncharted film flopped since it is basically a gameified version of Indiana Jones.
14:51.03MonetIt has a very strong filmic heritage
14:52.47MonetWell it has a chance, maybe, but much of what it does comes from action-adventure films.
14:52.50XhoBoring day indeed
14:52.51Xhowhat to do
14:59.06HachimanXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMErlY2CIs0 Franku composed this
15:00.45Xhodat depressing
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15:04.34DrodoEmpireHi everyone
15:06.19GhelaeHello.
15:22.52Monethello
15:51.13DrodoEmpiretest
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16:43.00Xhoded irc is ded
16:45.24DrodoEmpire>:
16:46.04XhoI can't believe I ate a whole Dominos to myself
16:46.13XhoI'm being a fat bastard today
16:56.32TekDroidSo I hit 2300 in Stellaris finally last night. My sentient AIs are probably just waiting for the MTTH. :P
17:00.15DrodoEmpireOh wow
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17:18.00The_RandomnessHello
17:18.18Wormy_hi
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17:25.59Wormy_Now to write my Masters application statement
17:26.04Wormy_:wheretoastart:
17:28.09GhelaeI wrote my PhD application statements when I was tired enough to be creative, and just let the ideas flow.
17:28.18GhelaeGranted, my applications were unsuccessful.
17:28.27GhelaeBut I did at least get to interviews.
17:28.36Wormy_Huh, that's unfortunate
17:30.09Wormy_The trouble is, my ideas always flow when I'm procrastinating or trying to do something more important.
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17:30.33Wormy_But for something entirely different
17:30.35Wormy_hi#
17:31.05GhelaeHello.
17:31.09dino82_hi
17:32.10OluapPlayerHi
17:35.26OluapPlayerGood god we've not had such a boring day in a whil
17:35.26OluapPlayere
17:36.01The_RandomnessQQ
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17:37.00Wormy_We (not me actually) could always play Animal, Vegetable or Mineral.  It involves thinking of an example, and with very few hints, allowing others to make choices about what it is.  The firsat to guess wins
17:37.50OluapPlayerCyrannian: let's do some fiction for the love of god
17:37.52OluapPlayerAlso hello
17:37.54GhelaeHello.
17:38.20Wormy_*first to guess correctly
17:38.26Cyrannianu better have ideas after all this time
17:40.35OluapPlayerWe can think of something
17:40.39OluapPlayerI just want something to do
17:40.53OluapPlayerThis place has been dead all damn day
17:41.23GhelaeGenesis of Nightmares?
17:41.33OluapPlayerHachi is not available
17:41.41CyrannianBippity boppity do, I'll do some fiction with u
17:43.07CyrannianAlso, started on a new world deep in Imperial space, struggling to shake off their oppressors http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/c6/Alberensis.png/revision/latest?cb=20160514174023
17:43.38OluapPlayerLots of screens
17:43.41XhoWormy_: Mineral
17:44.26Wormy_Okay, is it a naturallly occuring mineral or an object processed by human beings?
17:44.26XhoOluapPlayer: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13245269_1716707915244353_2496875282481444382_n.jpg?oh=8673df82967d9127743d1058896840cb&oe=579E50AA [GIT GUD]
17:44.39OluapPlayerFull retard
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17:44.56ImperiosiH
17:45.05Wormy_hey
17:45.30CyrannianHai
17:45.45GhelaeHello.
17:45.51OluapPlayerhi
17:47.13Wormy_Actually, I can't play right now
18:07.42dino82_hi
18:15.43dino82_@Cyrannian: Oh the city looks great!
18:17.45CyrannianThanks dino!
18:19.43dino82_:D
18:23.06dino82_bbl
18:29.04Cyrannianme too
18:29.31OluapPlayerffs
18:42.34Xhohalp
18:47.33The_Randomnesshm?
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19:14.24DrodoEmpireBack
19:15.48The_Randomnesswb
19:37.36XhoAnyone got any games to recommend
19:37.45XhoPeferably not a strategy game
19:39.34Imperioshm
19:39.42ImperiosGW2 is free nowadays
19:39.44ImperiosHearthstone
19:40.07ImperiosOh and the Arkham series
19:40.21The_Randomness>plebstone
19:40.23The_Randomness>strategy
19:40.25The_RandomnessKappa
19:41.09Imperios>not a strategy
19:41.15OluapPlayer>twitch memespouting
19:41.20ImperiosKappa
19:41.22Xho>kappa
19:41.22ImperiosSMOrc
19:41.27The_RandomnessDude, this is Hearthstone we're talking about here
19:41.30ImperiosWe're talking about Hearthstone
19:41.44OluapPlayerAnd no, you'd not like the games I like
19:41.51ImperiosIt can only be spoken of in twitch speak
19:41.55ImperiosBecause it is a Twitch game
19:42.14XhoI've seen my friend play Hearthstone, not a fan of it
19:45.58TechnobliteratorI've never played Hearthstone
19:46.08TechnobliteratorBut I know lots of people are like addicted or something
19:46.25XhoLike my friend
19:46.39The_RandomnessI'm just aware of the fact that the game's community is a meme factory
19:48.49Xho"Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 4"
19:48.54Xhocalm the fuck down son
19:49.27XhoI'm not a fan of the Arkham games' combat mechanics
19:49.41OluapPlayerstep the fuck up senpai
19:50.05HachimanOluap plays hentai porn games and some of them are quite interesting
19:50.16Xhonot surprised kek
19:50.17The_Randomnessloooooooooool
19:50.26OluapPlayerlmao what a nerd
19:50.38XhoThat being said I do like Assassin's Creed so
19:51.22OluapPlayerI don't know your gaming tastes
19:51.30OluapPlayerAll I can suggest from my library is Half-Life 2
19:52.30Xhobut i hav dat
19:52.43XhoMy gaming tastes aren't very rich tbh
19:52.57XhoGaming isn't my number one interest
19:53.00Wormy_Off to get utterly smashed
19:53.23OluapPlayerdisappointing
19:53.29OluapPlayerWell what kind of games do you like?
19:53.53XhoHm
19:54.10ImperiosXho: Speaking of hentai I just realised what game you would love
19:54.14ImperiosYandere Simulator
19:54.19XhoWell RPGs for one but I've never really found any interest in RPGs that don't follow the Bethesda format
19:54.20Xhowhat
19:54.40OluapPlayerSo action RPGs
19:54.41ImperiosYou're playing as a psychotic murderer and you must kill people without being caught
19:55.15XhoI also like the arcade fighter games like Tekken, Soulcalibur, Mortal Kombat etc
19:55.23XhoStreet Fighter I never really got into though
19:55.32OluapPlayerI've no fighting games in my library
19:55.53OluapPlayerMost games I got are FPSs, action RPGs or platformers
19:56.09Xhobaw
19:56.22OluapPlayerAction RPGs being the Dark Souls games
19:56.58XhoI'm still waiting for Tekken 7 and Tekken X Street Fighter to come out but Bandai Namco seem to be fucking around at the moment
19:57.05OluapPlayerThere's also Overlord, but I'm not sure what genre it belongs to
19:57.13OluapPlayerConceptually it's a game you'd enjoy
19:58.15OluapPlayerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlord_(2007_video_game))
20:01.09XhoHm
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20:05.50DrodoEmpireWhoops, left
20:05.55DrodoEmpireAnyway like I was saying
20:06.49DrodoEmpireI might just kill off Fiihar by having him shot by some Drodo (possibly an assassin?), or maybe he loses a duel by some other guy he had wronged during his term of Premier
20:07.49OluapPlayergit gud *pew*
20:08.08DrodoEmpirehur
20:12.59XhoSo I'm watching the Infinite Warfare trailer
20:13.04Xhoso much what
20:13.23ImperiosXho Hachiman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCRXXogopMQ
20:13.46XhoI basically watched something like Halo
20:14.10Xho2,125,774 + dislikes
20:14.15XhoSomeone made a mistake
20:14.53XhoImperios: Inshallah want a cracker
20:15.52MonetXho: YouTube history that
20:17.40OluapPlayerI think it hit the record of most disliked videogame trailer ever
20:18.30XhoSeriously though what was that
20:19.52DrodoEmpireSeems like a pretty confused game yeah
20:20.03OluapPlayerI've not watched it myself
20:20.04DrodoEmpireSam godawful sci-fi art direction too
20:20.04MonetCall of Planetside Halo
20:20.08DrodoEmpire*same
20:20.10OluapPlayerhttp://i.imgur.com/K8sUhVh.jpg Xhodocto Dominion computers
20:21.52XhoOluapPlayer: what the
20:26.19XhoSo the Eurovision final is happening
20:26.30Xho[Irskaad intensifies]
20:27.11TechnobliteratorYeah, it's no secret that CoD Infinite Warfare is horribly disliked. People wanted to return to modern day or past settings, and Activision ignored them.
20:28.29XhoDAMN YOU, DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL
20:32.08XhoI'm still bored
20:33.00OluapPlayerWelcome to the club
20:33.39Xhofukn dum club dis
20:35.53XhoEh screw it I'll buy Knights of the Old Republic
20:36.59Xho2.2 GB
20:37.03XhoThis game was released in 2003
20:37.05Xhowtf
20:38.08Xhowhat kinda game is that big for a 2003 release
20:40.29Xhohttps://www.facebook.com/benjamin.grandre/videos/1800296800205321/
20:40.31ImperiosMonet: http://cs626329.vk.me/v626329219/c353/exrTv_l4Q-U.jpg Sanguinius is emulating Sigmar apparently
20:40.55OluapPlayerolol
20:41.49XhoThat was me today, first thing I've properly eaten since Wednesday was a whole goddamn pizza
20:42.54OluapPlayerinb4 jealous Jo
20:43.16ImperiosSpeaking of food
20:43.24ImperiosI finally tasted a falafel
20:43.32ImperiosIt's quite pleasant
20:44.15Xho"Can you master the awesome power of the Force on your quest to save the Republic? Or will you fall to the lure of the dark side?"
20:44.18XhoHard choice
20:44.40TechnobliteratorYes, very jealous
20:44.41Technobliterator: |
20:44.59TechnobliteratorAlso, Kotor is a great game
20:45.49Xho2.3 GB tho
20:45.51Xhodafuq is dis
20:46.12ImperiosXho: You know who Revan is right?
20:46.31XhoYes
20:46.31ImperiosBasically
20:46.34Imperiosoh righjt
20:46.55XhoDarth Revan and whatnot
20:49.12ImperiosAlso the original Kylo Ren
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20:49.56HachimanXho: https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13178728_786409394833389_5260228308444629975_n.jpg?oh=5e0c4679a8f9c28a539e31b99551d63a&oe=57E15E8C
20:49.57HachimanHai
20:52.12GhelaeHello.
20:52.46ImperiosHachiman: But Wotanism and Satanism are different things
20:52.58ImperiosStrictly speaking I think they're exclusive
20:53.13HachimanYou say that because you're not part of the trve black metal elite
21:03.23TekDroidDrodoEmpire: So last night in Stellaris I unlocked Battleships and damn they're powerful. That single ship had 1.3K power.
21:03.33DrodoEmpireHoly shit o.o
21:03.39The_Randomness:o
21:04.57TekDroid8 naval capacity per and something like 9 each in maintenance. Plus 1800 to build while taking 450 days. But despite those massive numbers they're actually the most cost-efficient to build. O.o
21:05.09DrodoEmpireWow
21:08.18TekDroidBattleships also have those special station modules like FTL snare. That thing is literally a fortress with engines strapped to it.
21:11.32TekDroidTonight I'll make my robots self-aware, give them rights and pray the RNG is merciful. :P
21:17.20TechnobliteratorHow is Revan the original Kylo Ren
21:17.22Technobliterator._.
21:17.57Monethttp://static3.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11114/111140132/4931230-darth+revan.jpg because Revan dresses like this
21:18.14MonetOh wait you're stating the other way round
21:18.42MonetIn which case whoever said that is the same kind of guy who says 40K ripped off Starcraft.
21:19.15ImperiosRevan is the original Kylo Ren
21:19.21ImperiosAs in, Revan comes before Kylo
21:20.00HachimanBut guys
21:20.04HachimanRevan is not canon anymore
21:20.09HachimanSo it doesn't matter :p
21:21.02ImperiosRevan is actually semi-canon
21:21.22HachimanBut Imp
21:21.27HachimanI don't see Revan in the movies
21:21.31HachimanSo he's not really canon
21:21.59OluapPlayerMonet: "I told a dwarf "There's nothing like a good friend."  He said "What drivel!", moaned over how bitter the argument made him and began crying."
21:22.07Hachimanolol
21:23.07ImperiosHachiman: The Old Republic games are in a unique position between canon and non-canon, let me find the piece of info that states it
21:23.59Imperioshttps://www.reddit.com/r/swtor/wiki/returning_player/general#wiki_is_swtor_canon.3F There
21:24.10ImperiosThis designation means that SWTOR and KOTOR are able to be referenced heavily by canonical content, but has the freedom to create its own stories without needing to have all of them approved by Disney and Lucasfilm. Portions of the game have the ability to be pulled into canon in the future: they are leaving it alone at this time due to the games being set so far in the past of the movies."
21:24.36ImperiosConsidering that Revan is one of the more iconic characters in the Old Republic canon, he is almost certainly in the new EU as well
21:26.45TechnobliteratorUh
21:26.49HachimanDoubt it since they got rid of other "iconic" characters as well
21:26.56TechnobliteratorI still do not see how this makes Revan the "original Kylo Ren"
21:27.00TechnobliteratorThey don't have a lot in common
21:27.14MonetTechnobliterator: Whoever said that is basically going by the outfit.
21:27.28TechnobliteratorYeah, the outfits are not that similar
21:27.39ImperiosHachiman: In the KOTOR/SWTOR canon?
21:27.54Imperios*From the KOTOR/SWTOR canon?
21:28.18MonetTechnobliterator: The core elements are: a metal mask, a big hood and a flowing robe.
21:28.33TechnobliteratorStill not very similar
21:28.43TechnobliteratorYou just described Darth Vader's outfit
21:29.25HachimanBecause they are both characters who deal with both the Light and Dark Sides of the Force
21:29.33HachimanLike Mace Windu, actually
21:29.34ImperiosThing is, as I said, KoTOR/SWTOR are specifically stated to be one of the sources for the new canon
21:29.45MonetTechnobliterator: Drath vader doesn't wear a hood
21:29.55TechnobliteratorThis is a very small difference
21:31.20MonetLook at their silhouettes and then tell me 'its no smal ldifference'
21:31.31Monetits a very small difference*
21:32.50HachimanTo be fair
21:33.02HachimanMetal mask and flowing cape are very generic pieces of evil attire
21:33.10ImperiosTrue
21:34.55MonetYes but Revan has a very distinct mask
21:35.56Technobliteratorit is a small difference
21:36.07TechnobliteratorAnd even so, they're both heavily based on Vader anyway
21:36.30TechnobliteratorSo I do not subscribe to Imp's "Revan was the original Kylo Ren" statement
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22:26.17MonetTekDroid: Stellaris is very immersive.
22:28.33TekDroidYes, definitely.
22:32.36TekDroidI've been enjoying the vast and diverse empire of my Ethir Syndicate.
22:33.11MonetMy two leading species are at interesting odds
22:33.39MonetOne is a species of arid biome fox-people, the other is arctic biome bigheaded floral people.
22:33.52TekDroidI don't even know what my ideological make-up looks like.
22:37.11MonetThere's a somewhat interesting story behind the founding of my first federation if you're interested
22:37.39TekDroidMy dominant race by far is my founding species, a tundra arthropod. Second (albeit maybe a quarter of the size) is an oceanic reptillian I uplifted to sentience. Third is actually a subspecies of my main adapted for arctic worlds (and faster breeding).
22:41.27TekDroidOne of my rapidly growing species is a fox race (arid I think?) that due to immigration and some special colonization has left a significant portion of the species in my territory. We're not even allies (not for lack of trying), we just had a migration treaty.
22:43.20MonetI like the outcomes of migration treaties
22:44.44MonetSo the gist is the current federation, the Backatta-Roldorian Concord, had its seed in a civil war
22:45.52MonetThe Early i nthe game the arthorpood Backatta Union split to create a more militaristic faction called the Backatta compact. They were much more friendly to the COmmonwealth of ROlder (me)
22:46.00MonetAlthough they were confined ot a single world.
22:47.51MonetHowever they managed ot form allies and create a federation with the Roldar and another neighbour, starting off a civil war that lasted for a couply of years and completely revered the tables
22:48.32MonetWith the Backatta Compact becoming the dominant group while the Union reformed into the Union of Haribas.
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22:48.48The_RandomnessHey Panda
22:49.08AdmiralPandahi all
22:50.31Monethello
22:51.27HachimanIs Stellaris graphically demanding?
22:51.58TechnobliteratorIs it on Linux?
22:52.02TekDroidI never had enough members to even try forming a federation. Just me, one of my neighbours, and a tiny empire I recently fought a war to help liberate some of its occupied planets.
22:52.09DrodoEmpireIts not graphically demanding no
22:52.12DrodoEmpireAnd maybe
22:52.46HachimanStellaris sounds quite complex / complicated
22:52.48TekDroidHachiman: i don't find it too bad, I can even run it fine on my integrated graphics thing.
22:52.52HachimanI mean, I know it's rather in-depth
22:53.24MonetTechnobliterator: It is on Linux
22:54.09TekDroidThe curve is a lot smoother than in previous games.
22:56.40Technobliterator\o/
23:00.29MonetYeah.
23:00.57HachimanI might consider picking this up
23:01.07MonetUnlik Victoria or Europa Universalis, the beginning is about exporation
23:01.16HachimanWhat do I lose by not ordering the Nova / Galaxy Editions and by not getting the pre-order bonuses?
23:02.11MonetNot much.
23:02.26MonetMostly out-of-game stuff.
23:02.43MonetAnd the arthropod race it offers is largely cosmetic.
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23:06.35TekDroidYeah, pre-order was mainly cosmetic or out of game stuff.
23:13.45MonetWe've got plenty for a multiplayer game
23:16.59MonetMy current empire has such a high mineral output I've adopted a philosophy of "if you have the cash we have some minerals for you"
23:17.49AdmiralPandaI'm gonna have to buy this now aren't I :P
23:19.24HachimanI just bought it
23:19.41Liquid_InkWhat is this?
23:19.51HachimanHonestly I feel like this really might well be the "Space Stage done right" that multiple people have mentioned
23:19.55HachimanStellaris
23:24.11TekDroidMonet: I'm at +244 right now. :P
23:24.31MonetTekdroid: +177
23:25.56MonetI think the AI is mostly happy he's getting more minerals.
23:27.03MonetThe spice-- I mean the credits must flow!
23:27.22TekDroidI'm focusing on military build-up, rarely even been at half my capacity so far.
23:27.23DrodoEmpirelol
23:28.23TekDroidAnd that war cost me most of my fleet.
23:29.23MonetI'm preparing for a war myself
23:30.44MonetA race of asshole bugs who like taunting me
23:30.59TekDroidThe enemy fleet in my war had 90 corvettes. We both got wiped of everything but my 6 cruisers.
23:32.51MonetI'm feeling confident
23:33.01MonetI have a much larger fleet than them now.
23:45.11TekDroidMonet: Remember to make sure your weapon and defense types are diverse.
23:48.13MonetRight.
23:54.22DrodoEmpirehttp://i.imgur.com/JmoZ8SX.png - Fanart of the Blorg <3
23:57.16The_Randomnesslol

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