| 00:03.10 | dino82_ | Very nice Cyrannian! Awesome! Love the dooming vision on the end! Can't wait for more! |
| 00:08.10 | Cyrannian | thanks dino, now goodnight! |
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| 00:36.01 | Wormy_ | gooddbye |
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| 01:33.27 | Cryptdidical | Hey guys. |
| 01:36.14 | Vincent20100 | Hey |
| 01:38.17 | DrodoEmpire | Oh hi |
| 01:38.23 | DrodoEmpire | New here? |
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| 02:28.42 | Cryptdidical | Very new jaja |
| 02:28.51 | Cryptdidical | haha? |
| 02:30.12 | Cryptdidical | Typo... yeah, second time on Spore IRC. Need to make it a better habit :) Contributed a few articles on the Spore fiction sections a couple of years back. Nothing much. But always like browsing through and reading all the awesome creations |
| 02:30.39 | DrodoEmpire | Ah, okay |
| 02:31.11 | DrodoEmpire | Well, welcome back. Its often a lot more active, its just the wee hours right now |
| 02:31.27 | DrodoEmpire | That and a lot of users are undergoing exams. >.< |
| 02:39.17 | Cryptdidical | Fair enough. |
| 02:45.38 | The_Randomness | Stellaris is so good :D |
| 02:46.02 | DrodoEmpire | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 02:46.33 | DrodoEmpire | The game gives an incredible amount of choice as to how you rule and that's what I want from a Grand Strategy really |
| 02:46.40 | DrodoEmpire | So that's cool |
| 02:49.30 | The_Randomness | Yeah |
| 02:49.50 | The_Randomness | And you don't have the rest of the galaxy breathing down your neck, unlike in Civ V games |
| 02:50.16 | The_Randomness | (well, it's the rest of the world, but you get what I mean) |
| 02:50.39 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 02:55.27 | The_Randomness | And you don't have dumb bullshit like barbarians wrecking your stuff 24/7 |
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| 12:51.51 | Wormydroid | How do |
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| 14:37.23 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 14:39.01 | OluapPlayer_ | Hi |
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| 15:00.23 | Wormy_ | Never knew there were seasnails that swim through water like flies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C37RcvpFnmE |
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| 15:07.54 | Cyrannian | Hello |
| 15:08.03 | OluapPlayer_ | ~destroy Cyrannian |
| 15:08.03 | infobot | no |
| 15:08.21 | Cyrannian | ~smash OluapPlayer_ |
| 15:08.21 | infobot | ACTION flings an anvil in OluapPlayer_'s general direction |
| 15:09.06 | OluapPlayer_ | moov neraida war |
| 15:09.19 | Cyrannian | c cold war updaet |
| 15:10.39 | OluapPlayer_ | seen yesterday |
| 15:10.53 | OluapPlayer_ | I was about to message you on Steam last night when you immediately went offline |
| 15:11.24 | Cyrannian | Hope you liked it |
| 15:11.54 | OluapPlayer_ | I did, was good stuff |
| 15:12.08 | OluapPlayer_ | But now focus on neraida war pls |
| 15:12.36 | Cyrannian | I'll try and think of something |
| 15:12.53 | Cyrannian | Might update the relevant pages first though, unless you think I should wait until we complete the story |
| 15:13.27 | OluapPlayer_ | Updating the pages before the story is over would spoil its oucome |
| 15:13.29 | OluapPlayer_ | outcome even |
| 15:14.46 | Cyrannian | dum I mean the story so far |
| 15:15.18 | OluapPlayer_ | You'd have to update the pages again after the story is over |
| 15:15.37 | OluapPlayer_ | So I'd say finish story first then update the pages only once |
| 15:15.51 | Cyrannian | Hm good idea |
| 15:16.43 | Wormy_ | hi |
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| 16:52.41 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 16:52.59 | Monet | Hello |
| 16:53.29 | Monet | TekDroid: Lol. |
| 16:54.31 | Monet | 1992 I think puts me in the mid-older end of the millenial generation. |
| 16:55.32 | Monet | It makes me old to think I was born at the outbreak of the Bosnian war. |
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| 16:56.50 | Ghelae | Monet: What are the boundaries of being a millennial? |
| 16:56.52 | Ghelae | checks |
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| 16:57.19 | Monet | Ghelae: 1988-2003 I think. |
| 16:57.30 | Ghelae | Apparently, nobody can agree. |
| 16:57.49 | Monet | Some prefer Generation X and Y |
| 16:57.52 | OluapPlayer_ | Ghelae: Cyrannian is active again, so we should look into going back to Genesis of Nightmares when we can |
| 16:58.00 | Ghelae | Okay. |
| 16:58.22 | Monet | Generation Y is 1980s-2000s |
| 16:58.26 | Ghelae | My exams haven't started yet, but I haven't been over-busy with revision so far so I doubt that's going to change. |
| 16:58.47 | Ghelae | My final exam is only on the 23rd, anyway. |
| 16:58.50 | ImpyAndroid | Monet: https://www.quora.com/?digest_story=22320325 |
| 16:58.57 | ImpyAndroid | My final exam is in late June |
| 16:59.09 | Ghelae | Monet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennials#Date_and_age_range_defining |
| 16:59.10 | ImpyAndroid | Fuck the system I know |
| 16:59.33 | ImpyAndroid | Oh and hello everyone |
| 16:59.35 | ImpyAndroid | ^^ |
| 16:59.42 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 17:00.04 | Monet | I definitely know I'm old enough to remmeber half of the 90s. |
| 17:00.28 | Ghelae | If I had to pick an arbitrary age range, I'd go with people who were teenagers at some point in the 2000s, therefore 1981 (19 in 2000) to 1997 (13 in 2010). |
| 17:01.16 | Monet | Which actually puts me in the middle/middle-late bracket. |
| 17:03.00 | Wormy_away | No exams, but I've got a shitload of work to do within 4 weeks, including finish my projects for the client (the website, physics-driven animations etc.), supporting research and a Final Year Show project |
| 17:03.03 | Ghelae | Yeah. The very middle, 1987 to 1991, are those whose entire teens were in the 2000s. |
| 17:03.04 | OluapPlayer_ | I always thought millenials were just the people born at the start of the millenium |
| 17:03.19 | Wormy_away | And I've got my Masters application to do... |
| 17:03.37 | Ghelae | I remember thinking that in the earlier times I heard the term, but no, millennials are us. |
| 17:03.54 | OluapPlayer_ | Makes no sense that |
| 17:04.15 | Wormy_away | Speaking of generations, I think there is only one person left alive from the 1890's now. |
| 17:04.25 | Wormy_away | And even then, barely |
| 17:04.29 | Monet | I think the idea is its people who were in puberty by the turn of the millennium. |
| 17:04.30 | Ghelae | That's why I go for the "teens in the first decade of the millennium" definition. |
| 17:04.55 | OluapPlayer_ | 120 years old |
| 17:04.59 | OluapPlayer_ | This person is a mummy |
| 17:05.17 | Wormy_away | 1899, I think (hence barely) |
| 17:06.10 | Wormy_away | But there could well be more people who haven't or can't be dated officially. |
| 17:06.20 | Wormy_away | >dated |
| 17:07.28 | Monet | I think 1989-1992 (or 1994) could be the cutoff point for "born just after the Soviet Union fell" |
| 17:07.45 | Ghelae | There's a whole list of claims like that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longevity_claims |
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| 17:07.52 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 17:08.01 | OluapPlayer_ | ew shoo |
| 17:08.05 | Hachiman | IRC takes too long to load from the status screen |
| 17:08.10 | Hachiman | Breaks my momentum |
| 17:08.14 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 17:08.16 | Monet | Hi |
| 17:08.34 | Wormy_away | One of my favourites was the so-called 140 year old man, but now I look back on it, I doubt it was true. |
| 17:08.47 | Monet | Actually if the USSR collapsed in 1991, I'm in the bracked of people freshly born after the Cold War. |
| 17:08.56 | Monet | born freshly after* |
| 17:09.12 | Ghelae | I imagine we could get a lot more 120+ people in the coming decades. Remember, the supercentenarians of the present day are people who lived most of their lives during a time when people thought smoking was good for you. |
| 17:09.25 | Ghelae | That must have really cut down the numbers. |
| 17:10.50 | Wormy_away | Also I find it interesting there are people today who's grandfathers were born in the 18th century |
| 17:11.11 | Ghelae | 18th? |
| 17:11.15 | Wormy_away | Yep |
| 17:11.54 | Ghelae | Could happen. But how old were they when they were having children? |
| 17:12.11 | Wormy_away | There was this man in his 90's today who explained that the last couple of generations of men all had children in their 80's or 90's |
| 17:12.35 | Ghelae | Well. There you go. |
| 17:13.31 | Wormy_away | There was also veterans of the American Revolutionary War who lived to see the the Civil War, and veterans of that who lived to see the space age |
| 17:14.43 | Ghelae | And in the future, people will say "...and there were people who saw the first moon landings who also saw the [major historical event of the 2050s]". |
| 17:15.04 | Ghelae | Unless age-extending technology is so common by then that nobody thinks it's a big deal. |
| 17:15.43 | Wormy_away | Hopefully. I want to make it to the 2100's, but that might mean ditching alcohol. |
| 17:15.56 | Cyrannian | Indeed, planning on it too |
| 17:16.19 | Cyrannian | Just absorb the youth of strangers and it should work out fine |
| 17:17.06 | OluapPlayer_ | You don't count because you're a malevolent alien reptile |
| 17:17.18 | Wormy_away | I might freeze off my stem cells soon so I can revert back to my 20's |
| 17:17.41 | Ghelae | Anybody can drink the blood of young children, not just malevolent alien reptiles. |
| 17:17.46 | Wormy_away | I went to this lecturer by a stem cell researcher and she said it could actually reverse ageing |
| 17:17.57 | Wormy_away | *lecture |
| 17:18.48 | Cyrannian | "Anybody can drink the blood of young children, not just malevolent alien reptiles." - inspirational quote of the year |
| 17:20.00 | Ghelae | Why, thank you. I'm thinking of putting it on a poster and sticking copies of it all around Nottingham to help motivate people. |
| 17:21.07 | Wormy_away | All we have to do is make it to biological immortality, and then we can last long enough for computerised immortality and live until the Transcendental Object at the End of Time. |
| 17:21.33 | Cyrannian | You could sell the rights to one of the Presidential candidates in the US. It would make a great campaign slogan. |
| 17:22.45 | Ghelae | It needs to be a candidate who looks suspiciously young for their age, otherwise people will find it unconvincing. |
| 17:25.19 | Ghelae | But sure, it'll be like "We're all in this together", only with more specificity rather than sounding like a platitude. |
| 17:26.31 | Cyrannian | Anyway Wormy, I remember you saying once that immortality is technically impossible since after a certain amount of time, you cease being the same person. Or something along those liens |
| 17:27.49 | Wormy_away | I suppose so, but now I've thought about it more, I realise the Self is a fuzzy wuzzy phase space of potential versions of ourselves, which we takr a random walk through life anyway |
| 17:28.14 | Wormy_away | One day, technology may allow us to explore and store a great deal more of that space than the organic brain can do. |
| 17:28.17 | Ghelae | Yeah; it depends on what you really mean by "immortality". One thing to consider is that there are only so many memories that can fit within a brain. After a million years, your first century will be just a vague blip to you. |
| 17:28.53 | Ghelae | And memories do make a big part of what you are. Personality-wise. Or something like that. |
| 17:29.27 | OluapPlayer_ | I don't see why that'd be the case. It's not like you'd just suddenly forget how you acted like the day before |
| 17:29.48 | Ghelae | Oh, there'd still be a sense of continuity. |
| 17:29.59 | Wormy_away | The broadest definition of immortality, we all have nothing to worry about as eternal structures of spacetime, and/or parallel universes. Or that we *are* the universe. |
| 17:30.18 | Ghelae | That definition is arguably too broad for most people's liking. :P |
| 17:30.39 | Wormy_away | lol |
| 17:31.08 | OluapPlayer_ | Immortality = not dying |
| 17:31.09 | OluapPlayer_ | dur |
| 17:31.25 | Wormy_away | We live in an ego driven society |
| 17:31.33 | Cyrannian | It's true, I'm amazing |
| 17:31.34 | Wormy_away | The ego cannot be saved |
| 17:31.38 | Ghelae | [insert philosophical lecture on the meaning of "death"] |
| 17:32.10 | OluapPlayer_ | Death = dying |
| 17:32.11 | OluapPlayer_ | i win |
| 17:32.41 | Wormy_away | In the broadest definition of death, I suppose we will all die |
| 17:33.54 | Wormy_away | Appropriate track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr0NBPRMe2E |
| 17:34.40 | Wormy_away | However, I'm pretty sure not very much of "me" from 7 years ago remains in my body in its original form. |
| 17:34.47 | Cyrannian | clicks the link expecting it to be "Sunshine, Lollipops and Rainbows" |
| 17:35.30 | Wormy_away | Its from the Fountain, a pretty awesome film about one man, or three, depending on the interpretation, seeking immortality |
| 17:36.00 | Wormy_away | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fountain#Plot |
| 17:40.10 | Wormy_away | Thinking about these two contradictory notions on death and immortality, I guess we've talked about two things. Are we asking about survival of the Essence or survival of the Ego? Essence could be defined at the continuity and potential space that links *Selves* together, and that may survive in time or by propagating its survival. Ego could defined at the Self at any particular moment, and its body, which is constantly being t |
| 17:40.48 | Wormy_away | The Ego-driven Self is the one we would be mostly aware of |
| 17:43.38 | Ghelaway | There's cessation of biological functions - literal death - cessation of consciousness, changing of all of the atoms within a body, and changing of a personality beyond recognition. The latter two are processes that take a fairly long time, but in general I don't think most people would worry about them. |
| 17:44.03 | Ghelaway | I don't think anyone's ever had an existential crisis after realising that the cells in their body are nearly all different to the cells that they had 7 years ago. |
| 17:44.22 | Wormy_away | Yeah |
| 17:44.40 | Ghelaway | As for changing of a personality, most people would probably be fine with that as long as their future personalities weren't inconsistent with their core moral values. |
| 17:46.07 | Ghelaway | "You can live forever, but in 2000 years time you're going to like eating kittens" might make some people think twice about immortality, for instance. |
| 17:46.15 | Wormy_away | There's age old question, "When are two things the same?". When one applies this to personalities, it would seem it isn't a binary thing as most people imagine it is but more like a cloud that diminishes. |
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| 17:47.18 | Wormy_away | Like you say, you'd have patterns and regularities, like moral structures that inhabit that space |
| 17:47.35 | Xho | there are no moralities |
| 17:47.37 | Xho | only the void |
| 17:47.57 | The_Randomness | sure dude |
| 17:48.15 | Xho | qq |
| 17:48.38 | The_Randomness | Does nothing exist? |
| 17:48.54 | Xho | I dunno does it |
| 17:49.24 | Wormy_away | I think it might be a linguistic fallacy |
| 17:49.26 | Cyrannian | Does anyone want to play Stellaris? |
| 17:49.35 | Wormy_away | Xho: You might like this discussion http://pastie.org/private/bgbtfkb8yimic7dqhizka |
| 17:49.35 | The_Randomness | Yeah, good point Wormy |
| 17:49.42 | The_Randomness | I should've realized that when I said it |
| 17:50.36 | Xho | Something to do with longevity by the looks of it |
| 17:50.49 | Xho | Oh here comes the philosophical parts |
| 17:50.55 | Wormy_away | Then it went onto metaphysics of death |
| 17:51.31 | Xho | [18:29] <@OluapPlayer_> I don't see why that'd be the case. It's not like you'd just suddenly forget how you acted like the day before I dunno I don't exactly remember this morning let alone yesterday |
| 17:52.37 | Wormy_away | lol, I guess that means you are reborn every few hours in some sense |
| 17:52.50 | Hachiman | Not really |
| 17:53.11 | Hachiman | The brain just has no necessity to retain that information |
| 17:53.26 | OluapPlayer_ | spu |
| 17:53.29 | Xho | Or another part of me dies every passing moment #optimism |
| 17:53.29 | Xho | u |
| 17:54.00 | OluapPlayer_ | I'm already dead inside |
| 17:54.26 | Wormy_away | This is getting edgier by the minute |
| 17:54.30 | Xho | oluap uses edge its super effective xho fainted |
| 17:54.53 | Xho | I made a Pokemon joke |
| 17:54.55 | Xho | points pls |
| 17:55.16 | Hachiman | Apparently a eukaryote lacking mitochondria was recently discovered |
| 17:55.29 | Wormy_away | I thought it was a Dwarf Fortress reference |
| 17:55.48 | Wormy_away | or that game drom played |
| 17:56.24 | Wormy_away | Yeah, I wonder what that means for the Endysymbiosis theory |
| 17:56.40 | OluapPlayer_ | big scary words |
| 17:57.21 | Xho | Basically, there is no god |
| 17:57.36 | OluapPlayer_ | of course not *tips sombrero* |
| 17:57.42 | Xho | We had a fireworks factory explosion in Southampton today |
| 17:57.51 | Hachiman | Shame you weren't in it |
| 17:57.56 | OluapPlayer_ | #rude |
| 17:57.58 | Xho | I was the explosion numbnuts |
| 17:58.04 | Xho | Also a car explosion near a hotel |
| 17:58.14 | OluapPlayer_ | Good lord stop exploding |
| 17:58.19 | Wormy_away | welcome to England |
| 17:59.13 | Xho | Good Friday the 13th so far |
| 17:59.24 | OluapPlayer_ | Oh it's Friday the 13th today |
| 17:59.25 | Wormy_away | Meanwhile in Nottingham, a deranged jogger punched several people in the train station |
| 17:59.37 | OluapPlayer_ | It was Spooky Day and I wasn't even aware |
| 18:00.45 | Xho | Hachiman OluapPlayer_: you two available for stoof |
| 18:00.50 | Wormy_away | Spoopy |
| 18:00.51 | OluapPlayer_ | Yes |
| 18:01.01 | Hachiman | I'm taking out the trash ;-; |
| 18:01.03 | Hachiman | Yeah sure hur |
| 18:01.05 | Xho | ASDFGHJK |
| 18:01.25 | OluapPlayer_ | Taking out the trash doesn't take more than 2 minutes |
| 18:01.37 | Xho | I was about to link a Titanpad url |
| 18:01.46 | OluapPlayer_ | And you've been doing that for 30 minutes |
| 18:01.52 | Xho | The one that we used for the Penumbran stories |
| 18:01.55 | Xho | how silly of me |
| 18:02.02 | OluapPlayer_ | dat old |
| 18:02.11 | Hachiman | It'll take more than two minutes since we're RPing now |
| 18:02.32 | Xho | Might as well use the Eschaton one |
| 18:02.32 | Hachiman | Also you underestimate how much trash I have |
| 18:02.48 | OluapPlayer_ | Well how about you stop living in a fucking sewer then |
| 18:02.57 | Xho | kek.avi |
| 18:02.59 | Hachiman | Says the Brazilian |
| 18:03.02 | Xho | KEK.avi |
| 18:03.12 | OluapPlayer_ | go brush ur teeth birbong |
| 18:03.16 | OluapPlayer_ | brit even |
| 18:03.20 | Xho | oh.avi |
| 18:03.24 | Hachiman | birb |
| 18:03.31 | Hachiman | :> |
| 18:03.33 | Xho | i am turey |
| 18:03.37 | Xho | turkey even |
| 18:03.45 | OluapPlayer_ | Thanksgiving the 13th |
| 18:03.56 | Hachiman | ((need link thank)) |
| 18:04.03 | Xho | Caligaduro - great show |
| 18:04.08 | Xho | just posted it to u numbnuts |
| 18:04.21 | OluapPlayer_ | Kinmo - delete this |
| 18:04.50 | Xho | Caligaduro - just did c: |
| 18:06.38 | Ghel | Wormy_away: Nottingham also had an explosion very close to where I am now a couple of weeks ago, but it was post-theft arson of an abandoned clothes factory, so simultaneously less spectacular and more pathetic. |
| 18:07.23 | Wormy_away | Thats Nottingham for you |
| 18:08.26 | Wormy_away | On my way back from the UoN tour, there was a man in the city centre who found an onion on the ground, inspected it before stuffing it into his pocket. That was slightly amusing. |
| 18:09.14 | Ghel | Oh yes, how was your visit to this part of the world? |
| 18:10.02 | Wormy_away | Well, it was a very short tour, I brought all my work and everything. But I definately think its the right university and Masters for me, and it looks amazing. |
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| 18:12.25 | Wormy_ | I will probably specialise in data modelling/analysis, information visualisation and agent based modelling |
| 18:16.34 | Wormy_ | Anyway, any other opportunity would have to be pretty grandiose for me to choose over Nottingham, because it already is super |
| 18:16.51 | Wormy_ | Its that, or the job centre |
| 18:17.13 | Wormy_ | Not that I will diss the job centre, but it is hell to go through. |
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| 19:02.58 | OluapPlayer_ | Titanpad's gone full retard |
| 19:03.13 | Imperios | Hachiman Xho: https://2ch.hk/po/src/16033870/14631394390630.jpg |
| 19:03.26 | Xho | terminator.exe has stopped working |
| 19:03.26 | Hachiman | Memes |
| 19:03.59 | Imperios | >memes |
| 19:04.13 | Imperios | That's one of the most iconic WW2 art pieces dam you |
| 19:04.35 | Hachiman | Trump is not a WW2 art piece hur |
| 19:04.38 | Imperios | https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/9c/76/1c/9c761ce7f235ad71def56ed806677f96.jpg |
| 19:04.44 | Imperios | this one |
| 19:04.59 | OluapPlayer_ | It won't load |
| 19:05.03 | OluapPlayer_ | TITANPAD WON'T LOAD |
| 19:05.05 | OluapPlayer_ | PANIC |
| 19:05.08 | Xho | ECCCH |
| 19:05.56 | OluapPlayer_ | Oh now it did |
| 19:06.10 | Xho | So Doom is being published by Bethesda |
| 19:06.12 | Xho | expect.bugs |
| 19:07.32 | Hachiman | Explains why nobody likes it |
| 19:07.55 | Xho | OOOOOOOOOH |
| 19:09.33 | OluapPlayer_ | lul |
| 19:09.56 | OluapPlayer_ | And no the problem is the opposite of that, everyone likes everything that has Bethesda's name in it |
| 19:10.03 | OluapPlayer_ | But I'm not gonna go into this sort of talk |
| 19:10.50 | Xho | hoh |
| 19:11.05 | Xho | To be honest, Bethesda hasn't made an honestly good game since Fallout New Vegas |
| 19:11.26 | Xho | Skyrim was good but not great and Fallout 4 was just sort of good |
| 19:11.45 | Xho | And Fallout New Vegas wasn't even all of Bethesda's from what I remember |
| 19:11.58 | Xho | Obsidian even |
| 19:12.09 | Xho | Fallout 3 then |
| 19:16.45 | Imperios | Hachiman: I wonder, what is the canonicity of the Brain Boyz in the modern 40k canon? |
| 19:23.31 | Hachiman | I wouldn't know |
| 19:28.32 | OluapPlayer_ | Betheda did nothing in New Vegas, they just published |
| 19:28.39 | OluapPlayer_ | It was all developed by Obsidian |
| 19:31.52 | Xho | Fallout 3 then |
| 19:32.30 | Wormy_ | Looks like Google is in trouble again https://www.newscientist.com/article/2088056-exclusive-googles-nhs-deal-does-not-have-regulatory-approval/?utm_source=NSNS&utm_medium=ILC&utm_campaign=webpush&cmpid=ILC%257CNSNS%257C2016-GLOBAL-webpush-GOOGLEREGULATION |
| 19:32.43 | OluapPlayer_ | needs Fallout 4 but made by Obsidian |
| 19:32.47 | OluapPlayer_ | then i'd play |
| 19:33.15 | Xho | ouch |
| 19:33.22 | Xho | Seriously though you should play Oblivion |
| 19:33.24 | Xho | dat shit addictive |
| 19:35.05 | OluapPlayer_ | u violated the law |
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| 19:44.49 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 19:45.57 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 19:46.53 | The_Randomness | Hey |
| 20:00.28 | TekDroid | Xho: The New Vegas guys are working for Paradox now. |
| 20:01.49 | Hachiman | Is Stellaris player-friendly? |
| 20:01.55 | Hachiman | As in, is it easy for a new player to get into |
| 20:07.01 | The_Randomness | Yeah, I'd say that it's not too hard to get into, but there's a lot of depth to the game |
| 20:08.07 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 20:08.43 | DrodoEmpire | Though Paradox is good with UIs so the deep gameplay isn't overwhelming |
| 20:09.16 | DrodoEmpire | Well, not anymore anyway- I find pre-CKII Paradox game UIs were horrendous >.< Maybe that's just me |
| 20:19.27 | TekDroid | They've made some good steps with UI in their current generation of games. |
| 20:23.10 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://torlol.ru/uploads/9aea795d901a9fd2b181456bdbbb0bf8.jpg A Sith Lord INSIDE of a Sith Lord |
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| 20:26.42 | Hachiman | That's pretty cool |
| 20:28.31 | Imperios | Wait is that a Centurion |
| 20:28.34 | Imperios | Or a Dreadnaught |
| 20:29.09 | Imperios | The arms look more Dreadnaught-like |
| 20:29.21 | Imperios | Which kind of makes sense since Vader *is* basically a tiny Dreadnaught |
| 20:43.39 | Technobliterator | Uncharted 4 is the best game on PS4 |
| 20:43.43 | Technobliterator | absolutely |
| 20:50.29 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1463171919133.png edge overwhelming |
| 20:50.30 | Imperios | Xho too |
| 20:50.46 | Xho | This isn't Elliot Rodgeri s it |
| 21:24.20 | DrodoEmpire | edgy *and* unscientific <.< |
| 21:25.07 | OluapPlayer_ | Xho: http://i.imgur.com/ShHpQzk.jpg |
| 21:25.43 | Xho | rekt |
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| 21:26.35 | AnonyLurk | Ayy. |
| 21:26.37 | AnonyLurk | Gun control. |
| 21:26.40 | AnonyLurk | Let's talk about that. |
| 21:27.25 | The_Randomness | y |
| 21:27.52 | AnonyLurk | 'Cause. |
| 21:27.54 | AnonyLurk | Learning and stuff. |
| 21:29.27 | AnonyLurk | Actually because I've always wanted to see if Public Forum Debate could be adapted to an online setting, and I need some meatsh- reasonable, morally upstanding individuals, to use as test subjects. |
| 21:34.43 | Ghel | Except for three lines, before you arrived this channel had been dead for half an hour, so don't be surprised if you find that there aren't lots of people jumping at the opportunity for debate. |
| 21:34.59 | Ghel | lots of people here* |
| 21:38.00 | AnonyLurk | Such is life in the IRC. |
| 21:44.50 | Technobliterator | Why would you specifically bring up controversial topics ._. |
| 21:45.41 | Hachiman | I disagree with allowing guns to the public |
| 21:52.09 | AnonyLurk | Because controversial topics are the most interesting. |
| 21:53.20 | Technobliterator | This is true |
| 21:53.40 | Technobliterator | My non controversial topic is I just finished Uncharted 4 and can easily say it's one of the best games I've ever played |
| 21:53.41 | Technobliterator | \o/ |
| 21:53.46 | OluapPlayer_ | A very fitting topic for SporeWiki |
| 21:54.08 | Technobliterator | normally controversial topics are just stumbled upon |
| 21:54.16 | Technobliterator | when someone goes off on a personal rant |
| 21:54.21 | Technobliterator | as opposed to specifically brought up |
| 21:55.47 | Ghel | The explanation was given: Anony wants volunteers to try a type of formal debate online. |
| 21:56.18 | AnonyLurk | Drawing an image to explain how to play now. |
| 21:57.22 | Technobliterator | I volunteer Hachiman and DrodoEmpire |
| 22:06.42 | Imperios | What is going on |
| 22:06.48 | Imperios | And no guns are wesome |
| 22:06.51 | Imperios | awesome |
| 22:06.57 | Imperios | The gun is the great equaliser |
| 22:07.24 | Hachiman | You call school shootings "equalising?" |
| 22:07.39 | Imperios | You see when the populace does not have guns, those who possess them illegally, or are just stronger than average, acquire power over others |
| 22:08.01 | Imperios | Feeding crime, corruption, and police brutality |
| 22:08.14 | Imperios | With guns, though |
| 22:08.41 | Imperios | You can try shooting someone but prepare to be shot back at |
| 22:08.54 | Hachiman | Unless you're in a school |
| 22:09.17 | The_Randomness | Yet countries with lower gun ownership generally have lower rates of violent deaths and stuff than countries like the US, where gun ownership is very high |
| 22:09.18 | Imperios | And where are you looking at if you're the parent of that child |
| 22:09.25 | The_Randomness | But this is a complicated issue, keep this in mind |
| 22:09.28 | Imperios | The_Randomness: Switzerland |
| 22:09.39 | Imperios | But yeah it's complex |
| 22:09.45 | The_Randomness | yeah |
| 22:10.00 | Imperios | Anyway it's the matter of the parents being irresponsible |
| 22:10.07 | Imperios | Also this is just me |
| 22:10.23 | Imperios | But I am sympathetic towards victims of bullying ;~; |
| 22:11.36 | Hachiman | You feel sympathy for school shooters |
| 22:11.39 | Hachiman | What the fuck |
| 22:12.07 | The_Randomness | He didn't say that... |
| 22:12.30 | OluapPlayer_ | What the hell |
| 22:12.48 | OluapPlayer_ | Why would you even say that? |
| 22:13.34 | Hachiman | I thought Imp was correlating "victims of bullying" with school shooters |
| 22:13.38 | AnonyLurk | Hold it. |
| 22:13.42 | AnonyLurk | We got rules here. |
| 22:13.51 | The_Randomness | HOLD THE PHONES |
| 22:13.58 | OluapPlayer_ | And it's not your job to enforce them |
| 22:14.08 | AnonyLurk | http://imgur.com/xsDfai3 |
| 22:14.09 | AnonyLurk | Here you goes. |
| 22:14.30 | The_Randomness | OluapPlayer_: He wasn't talking about *our* rules |
| 22:14.42 | AnonyLurk | Read this and let me know when you have. |
| 22:14.42 | OluapPlayer_ | Right |
| 22:14.44 | Hachiman | Man I'm bad at this game |
| 22:14.53 | The_Randomness | Hachiman: u lose |
| 22:15.00 | AnonyLurk | I will then state the resolution, start the five minute timer, and the game will begin. |
| 22:16.24 | AnonyLurk | Again, please state when you have read and understood the above image. |
| 22:19.07 | Imperios | I am not saying I justify them, but that school shootings happen uncover a big problem in your society |
| 22:19.20 | Imperios | 8the fact that school shootings happen uncovers |
| 22:19.39 | Imperios | So ultimately they are a symptom, not a cause |
| 22:20.15 | Imperios | Also, school shootings do not really factor into the issue of gun legality, because I do not believe teenagers are liable to bear arms either way |
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| 22:20.38 | Imperios | What it really tells us about guns is that they need to be more strictly monitored |
| 22:20.41 | Imperios | But not banned |
| 22:20.42 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, dear a debate about gun control |
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| 22:20.46 | Technobliterator | Imp, red the rules ._. |
| 22:20.47 | Imperios | shoots everyone |
| 22:20.49 | dino82_ | hi |
| 22:20.57 | Technobliterator | And yes, Drodo, it was actually an encouraged debate |
| 22:20.58 | Technobliterator | hi dino |
| 22:21.17 | AnonyLurk | http://imgur.com/xsDfai3 |
| 22:21.29 | AnonyLurk | Readis. |
| 22:21.32 | DrodoEmpire | My stance- People should be allowed to own firearms. There must be a form of regulation (I recommend a blacklist for some individuals) as well as good mental health care to supplement this |
| 22:21.39 | Hachiman | "As a Lizard Person, I don't understand this bathroom issue. I can shape-shift. Sometimes I go to the urinal with seven dicks and no one even notices. But if I want to hurt women, I don't go to the women's bathroom--I go to the White House. I'm a Congressman." |
| 22:21.55 | The_Randomness | lmao |
| 22:21.58 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: Pretty much |
| 22:22.02 | DrodoEmpire | That's all I'm gonna say |
| 22:22.23 | DrodoEmpire | Besides those stipulations? Sure. Own your guns. I like guns, lots of other respectable people do too |
| 22:22.34 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 22:22.39 | Imperios | Also, since we brought school shootings into this, another issue is safeguarding them |
| 22:22.50 | Technobliterator | My stance is all of humankind is trash and should be destroyed by robots |
| 22:22.52 | Technobliterator | \o/ |
| 22:22.58 | The_Randomness | nice_meme |
| 22:23.07 | Imperios | c |
| 22:23.17 | DrodoEmpire | Yes, gun safety should be encouraged, and failure to safely use and store weapons should be grounds for a blacklisting |
| 22:23.27 | Imperios | Pretty much this |
| 22:24.16 | Technobliterator | No, don't you know that socialist muslim Barack "Literal Devil" Obama would just introduce that as a slippery slope so he can take all your guns away and make you live in a fascist state? |
| 22:24.21 | Technobliterator | stoopid libtards |
| 22:24.24 | Technobliterator | MAKE MURICA GREAT AGAIN |
| 22:24.36 | Imperios | Technobliterator: But wait |
| 22:24.45 | Imperios | If everyone has guns |
| 22:24.48 | Imperios | Does that mean the... |
| 22:24.52 | Imperios | Mexicans |
| 22:24.54 | Imperios | should have guns too? |
| 22:25.12 | Technobliterator | don't worry, the wall will be bullet proof |
| 22:25.47 | Monet | What about the Mexicans on America's side of the wall? |
| 22:26.11 | Technobliterator | We will deport them back to Islam |
| 22:26.13 | Technobliterator | stoopid libtard |
| 22:26.24 | DrodoEmpire | Islamistan <.< |
| 22:26.31 | Technobliterator | yeah there |
| 22:26.44 | Imperios | Technobliterator: wAit |
| 22:26.49 | Imperios | If we deport Mexicans to Islam |
| 22:26.54 | Imperios | Wouldn't Islam eventually become Catholicism? |
| 22:27.15 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: I just realised |
| 22:27.20 | Imperios | "Islamistan' is probably a real place |
| 22:27.29 | DrodoEmpire | I know "Islamabad" is |
| 22:27.32 | Technobliterator | man y'all stoopid cucks hate MURICA and should be deported from this GOD GIVEN cuntray |
| 22:27.35 | Hachiman | Need to be deported back to Azkaban |
| 22:27.38 | Imperios | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamistan Holy shit it is |
| 22:27.47 | DrodoEmpire | Oh my |
| 22:27.48 | The_Randomness | Technobliterator: r/the_donald pls |
| 22:27.53 | Technobliterator | :D |
| 22:28.19 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: There was also a place called "Kaffiristan" |
| 22:28.27 | DrodoEmpire | Oh wow |
| 22:28.37 | Hachiman | inb4 Stanistan |
| 22:29.05 | DrodoEmpire | "land of that word you really shouldn't call people <.<" |
| 22:29.22 | Imperios | It was named Kaffiristan becuase it had kaffirs in it |
| 22:29.25 | Imperios | Kaffirs as in unbelievers |
| 22:30.43 | dino82_ | :d |
| 22:30.50 | Hachiman | DrodoEmpire: What, Nigerstan? |
| 22:30.58 | The_Randomness | cmonBruh |
| 22:31.45 | Imperios | Hachiman: What Boko Haram will rename Nigeria into once it seizes power |
| 22:36.07 | Imperios | Technobliterator: But Murica was founded by people deported for their religion |
| 22:36.09 | Imperios | Does that mean that |
| 22:36.18 | Imperios | If Trump deports Muslims |
| 22:36.23 | Imperios | They will found another America? |
| 22:36.43 | Technobliterator | Maybe :o |
| 22:36.48 | Hachiman | Americastan |
| 22:36.52 | Hachiman | Or Ameristan |
| 22:36.53 | The_Randomness | New Murica |
| 22:37.02 | Monet | Imperios: "Yh but they didn't found MURICA. They founded some puritanland." |
| 22:37.05 | Technobliterator | yeah, with its capital New New York |
| 22:37.21 | Imperios | Technobliterator: Newyorkabad |
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| 22:37.55 | The_Randomness | tfw random connection reset |
| 22:39.05 | Monet | Thing is, where do they emigrate to? |
| 22:39.14 | Imperios | Islam |
| 22:39.19 | Monet | Where would Newyorkabad be? |
| 22:39.24 | Imperios | They need to GET BACK TO ISLAM |
| 22:39.54 | Imperios | Monet: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXOwan0UAAApb-V.png That's where Newyorkabad will lie |
| 22:41.38 | Monet | ...wow. |
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| 22:42.12 | Imperios | Liquid_Ink: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXOwan0UAAApb-V.png |
| 22:42.13 | Imperios | Hi |
| 22:42.14 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: I mean, *I'd* sooner not have Sharia Law being practiced in my country either. :p As for "going back to Islam"... Well, they're already there I'm afraid, its not much of a destination |
| 22:42.17 | DrodoEmpire | XD |
| 22:42.27 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 22:42.35 | Imperios | Maybe it is actually an ISIS preacher in disguise |
| 22:42.45 | DrodoEmpire | I'd sooner not have *any* religious law be practiced, really |
| 22:42.46 | Imperios | Teaching young Muslims to "go back to REAL Islam" |
| 22:42.49 | Imperios | aYE |
| 22:42.49 | Imperios | Aye |
| 22:43.48 | Monet | Its the extremists who mostly force it though |
| 22:43.56 | Imperios | Aye |
| 22:44.05 | Imperios | That's why extremists should get back to THE DESSERT |
| 22:44.16 | Imperios | It is much more sweet there |
| 22:44.25 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 22:44.34 | The_Randomness | back to the ice cream dunes |
| 22:44.39 | The_Randomness | amirite |
| 22:49.23 | DrodoEmpire | mooslahmic rae gons |
| 22:49.28 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 22:49.54 | Monet | WOuld anyoen be interested in watching me play Xcom? |
| 22:50.59 | DrodoEmpire | I could stop by, yeah. Enemy Unknown or 2? |
| 22:51.06 | Monet | 2 |
| 22:53.08 | DrodoEmpire | Ah alright |
| 22:53.45 | AnonyLurk | >XCOM: EU. |
| 22:53.48 | AnonyLurk | >XCOM 2. |
| 22:53.57 | AnonyLurk | >not playing glorious based UFO Defense. |
| 22:54.06 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 22:54.12 | AnonyLurk | Literal cancer. |
| 22:54.14 | DrodoEmpire | We're only normies after all |
| 22:54.30 | AnonyLurk | Fugging plebs. |
| 22:54.34 | DrodoEmpire | >: |
| 22:55.13 | Monet | I want to entertain, not suffer. |
| 22:57.53 | Hachiman | But that is our entertainment |
| 22:58.13 | Monet | WHich I can provide in Xcom 2 |
| 22:58.42 | Monet | But knowing my experience I will kill every rookie in mission 1 of UFO Defense. |
| 22:58.55 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 22:59.28 | DrodoEmpire | "The XCOM program has been terminated after a freak accident regarding the squadron grenade launcher" |
| 23:00.08 | DrodoEmpire | God if real battles were as accident-ridden as UFO defense battles I think people just wouldn't bother >.< |
| 23:00.22 | DrodoEmpire | (And a *lot* of accidents happen in battles already, from every level of command) |
| 23:01.02 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Storm_Chaser#Whispers Shitloadsa story |
| 23:01.13 | Xho | +54,000 edit good lord |
| 23:01.26 | DrodoEmpire | Oh wow |
| 23:01.48 | TekDroid | Monet: How far are you in XCOM 2 now? |
| 23:02.14 | Monet | TekDroid: I've encountered my first sectopods. |
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| 23:03.14 | Monet | Got my ass handed to me on a rescue mission though. Difficult rating but after ADVENT stormed the evac point all but two of my squad of 5 escaped alive. |
| 23:03.46 | Monet | sorry other way around |
| 23:03.59 | Monet | Two out of the squad of five escaped alive |
| 23:04.08 | Monet | And they were my best. |
| 23:04.30 | Monet | No way can I risk going full rookie with a sectopod risk. |
| 23:05.47 | DrodoEmpire | Makes sense |
| 23:15.58 | AnonyLurk | Hey. |
| 23:16.01 | AnonyLurk | Let's be real here. |
| 23:16.08 | AnonyLurk | If we're fighting legit aliens, everyone's gonna fuck up horrible. |
| 23:16.24 | AnonyLurk | But hopefully the collateral damage induced by panic-fueled grenade sprays will kill a couple of them in the blast. |
| 23:16.34 | AnonyLurk | It's like playing Imperial Guard instead of Space Marines. |
| 23:16.42 | AnonyLurk | Everyone's dead, but you killed them too. |
| 23:18.52 | Monet | https://www.twitch.tv/draco176 here's the stream |
| 23:22.26 | The_Randomness | I would stick around on there, but I need to watch this tutorial for something I'm making in Minecraft >_> |
| 23:23.03 | Monet | I admit I'm taking my time |
