IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160507

00:04.34DrodoEmpireI had a mod idea for that yes
00:06.42The_Randomnessoh neat
00:06.57The_RandomnessI was just thinking a game in general, like how some of us played Civ V together a few times
00:07.11DrodoEmpireRight, right
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01:03.53Wormy_oh dear https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/728746810743894016
01:08.56Liquid_InkWhat a fool
01:10.19Wormy_"it does look like he's standing at a urinal"
01:12.20ZF101Looks like a kid standing in the corner.
01:33.52Wormy_#humansareweak in true Star Trek fashion http://www.startrek.com/uploads/assets/articles/Beyond33.jpg
01:34.15Wormy_looks a bit like a Jem'Hadar
01:34.45Liquid_InkI thought it looked like a Hirogen
01:34.58Wormy_Actually, you are right there
01:39.25Wormy_"so many paws, puppy gets confused" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5UjGV_sWvM
01:39.46DrodoEmpiredaww
01:40.08DrodoEmpireHmm, I might play some CombineControl
01:40.19DrodoEmpireOnly issue is that I'm pretty sure the server I played on closed recently
01:40.40DrodoEmpireSucks 'cause it had an awesome community and I had some well-developed chars on there
01:46.57Wormy_Goodnight
01:47.02DrodoEmpireNight
02:03.48Monet_2I just had a thought
02:04.40Monet_2It might be its not being covered but the amount of international pressure regarding the DI's sub-citizen concept is interestingly low.
02:08.53ZF101Most likely because, unlike msot civlizations, the DI are rather benevolent towards their SubCits.
02:10.43Monet_2The most pressure i've seen ocmes from the Kraw and the Aeoneonatrix...that's about it
02:12.51ZF101Bye guys, Gotta go
02:19.14DrodoEmpireMonet_2: Hmm
02:19.27DrodoEmpireFair enough, though I thought that it was different now?
02:19.43Monet_2There's stil lrestrictions.
02:19.51TybusenMonet_2: I remember that the TIAF used to make fun of the DI for "still having slavery" back when they were still enemies
02:20.42DrodoEmpireAre they still bought and sold as property?
02:20.49DrodoEmpireOr pushed into servitude?
02:21.17DrodoEmpireAny of these would elicit very strong reactions from the Drodo, who're sorta not big fans of slavery :p
02:25.51Monet_2It might be more like contractual servitude now.
02:26.18DrodoEmpireRight...
02:26.20DrodoEmpireHmm
02:26.21TybusenLike indentured servitude, sort of?
02:26.40Monet_2Yeah
02:26.52DrodoEmpireSo are they closer to second-class citizens than slaves? If so then a lot of more egalitarian societies will kick up a stink still\
02:27.36DrodoEmpireIncluding the Drodo, who- While they have very sharp class distinctions between the aristocracy and lowborn- still have a belief in legal equality
02:27.41TybusenActually I'm surprised that I had the TIAF stop pestering the DI about that
02:28.02TybusenThough I guess the TIAF probably stopped wanting to impose their own social order on the DI after they buddied up
02:28.45DrodoEmpireProbably out of diplomatic reasons yeah
02:29.18TybusenMight also be that the TIAF generally becomes more accepting of societies different from their own once they become friends
02:29.42TybusenSince it's like "yeah, they're different, but we're friends now and we can accept that"
02:30.14DrodoEmpireEh still- would the idea of their friends legally discriminating against a huge number of people not be unsettling?
02:30.26TybusenYeah, that's right
02:30.45TybusenThe TIAF public at large might still be critical of the DI's policies on second-class citizens
02:31.19DrodoEmpireI imagine the Drodo are a similar way really- They can appreciate the DI for what it is, and remain allies with it because they're that powerful
02:32.02TybusenLike how the US and Japan are best friends and the US gov is overall hesitant to officially call out Japan on some of their questionable things, while the public can still criticize things like Japan's ass-backwards stances towards homosexuality, etc.
02:32.08DrodoEmpireBut just about *everybody* sees the subcitizen system as wrong, though, with the exception of some outspoken pundits its probably a matter swept under the rug for now
02:32.23DrodoEmpireRight
02:32.30DrodoEmpireJapan's a pretty big diplomatic contact after all
02:32.50DrodoEmpireSo while calling them out on backwards cultural/legal values would be just it wouldn't be smart
02:33.03DrodoEmpireSame for the DI really
02:33.17TybusenBut I guess it really would be more of society's job to do that at that point
02:34.24TybusenGovernment has to overlook those things for diplomacy's sake as long as it doesn't become an urgent humanitarian issue
02:35.01DrodoEmpireUnfortunately yeah
02:35.09TybusenWhile ordinary members of society are still allowed to criticize other societies/governments
02:35.24DrodoEmpireUntil a genocide or genuine enslavement of subcitizens happen the government wouldn't be wise in stepping in with its heavy hand
02:36.11Monet_2Right, yeah.
02:36.31TybusenAnd probably, from most of the progressive or democratic Gigaquadrant societies' points of view, the DI's servitude system is not good, but it's not a humanitarian disaster or anything
02:36.38DrodoEmpireRight
02:36.38Monet_2Still, I guess its a perceptual thing but there isn't that much coverage of the sub-citize ncriticism
02:36.47DrodoEmpirePossibly yeah
02:37.16TybusenAt least for the TIAF, the populace is probably more concerned with the humanitarian abuses by some of the TIAF's adversaries, namely the CyraEmp
02:37.30TybusenAnd definitely the DCP after the TIAF-DCP alliance collapsed
02:37.58DrodoEmpireActually that reminds me- Didn't the Drodo Empire (or rather the Gigaquadrantic Alliance thing) send in peacekeepers during the Third House War?
02:42.25TybusenI should think about TIAF involvement in the Third House War
02:42.54DrodoEmpireThey could send peacekeepers as well- that or choose a side
02:42.57TybusenLorrelas and Uriel are personal friends and I can't imagine Lorrelas would want the TIAF to be sitting around while a coup happens in one of the Federation's closest allies
02:43.32TybusenThe TIAF would definitely join on the side of Uriel, unless for whatever reason that would represent political suicide
02:43.59DrodoEmpireIt probably wouldn't, though the Drodo would sooner the war just to end. >.<
02:45.14TybusenThe TIAF isn't a super big fan of separatism since, on one hand, they highly value loyalty, and on another hand, they had a very bad experience with their own separatist movement no less than 40 years prior to the Third House War
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10:09.36Liquid_InkYo
10:14.50XhoHi
11:07.48XhoImpyDroid: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/b5/OrichalcumElfBust.png/revision/latest?cb=20160507110615 So the Orichalcum Elves are giant Aryans
11:12.44Liquid_InkSo very pointy
11:13.03Liquid_InkAre the rest of their bodies that pointy?
11:13.08XhoProbably
11:13.12XhoBeing elves and whatnot
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11:52.54XhoMonet_3: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/b5/OrichalcumElfBust.png/revision/latest?cb=20160507110615
11:53.11Monet_3Saw
11:53.13Monet_3Dat hair...
11:53.42Monet_3Legolas has nothing on that golden waterfall.
11:54.29XhoOut of the two Orichalcum Elves that one is probably Septimus
11:54.38XhoLonginus has a much more metallic skin tone
12:02.24XhoOoh I hit 19,000 edits
12:02.39XhoAlthough for a user of my time here I should be well into the 30,000s
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12:06.30Xhoups
12:06.47Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13174032_1089465557783971_1362339437316936558_n.png?oh=258878947b538217cb7403d082620033&oe=57DF21FB Just saw this photo
12:07.15OluapPlayerspu
12:08.53XhoOluapPlayer: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/b5/OrichalcumElfBust.png/revision/latest?cb=20160507110615 I also decided to make Septimus in ZBrush
12:09.04OluapPlayerI saw
12:09.23OluapPlayerHe's an ugly fucker hur
12:09.37XhoSeptimus - 5000 years ago                  go fuck urself
12:11.44XhoIn that case Longinus is even uglier
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12:39.46Wormy_hi
12:39.55OluapPlayerHi
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13:00.43GhelaeHello.
13:02.37Wormy_hi
13:02.52OluapPlayerHi
13:04.10Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/cd2ZdZ6
13:08.13Monet_3http://imgur.com/gallery/EinLhQZ NLaMB friend, NLaMB
13:13.44XhoSo my kitchen is getting renovated
13:13.58XhoAll the appliances have been moved to the living room
13:14.01OluapPlayerI read that as kitten and was slightly confused
13:14.08XhoTHERE'S A FULLY FUNCTION FRIDGE IN MY LIVING ROOM
13:14.16Xhokitten renovation
13:14.18Xhois actuly dog
13:14.28XhoFunctional*
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13:23.06Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13164306_614052388751795_6493819610460052045_n.jpg?oh=81f0435b11d26614f71bc9309694cf4f&oe=57AA3F40 Fallout 4
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13:23.30AdmiralPandaAs a fallout 4 player, I can confirm this
13:23.48AdmiralPandawith a few minor adjustments, a pint of irradiated blood can turn into a miniature nuclear launcher
13:25.33Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13125024_611507585672942_3944629711403163849_n.jpg?oh=37a0fd8cdac2fefab5e199aee8980aa7&oe=57E68303
13:27.04AdmiralPandadunno who that's supposed to be off the top of my head
13:27.16AdmiralPandaunless it's an off-shape Geralt
13:28.14XhoIt's meant to be Geralt yeah
13:28.43XhoLooks more like offshoot of Solid Snake rather than Geralt but still
13:28.52AdmiralPandayeah that's what threw me off
13:28.53XhoWhere is my English going exactly
13:29.15AdmiralPandathat was fine, just needed "like an offshoot"
13:33.32OluapPlayergit back here
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14:34.34XhoWHAT'S GOOD NIGGA
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14:42.50Monethello
14:47.02GhelaeHello.
15:05.02XhoMonet OluapPlayer: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/b/b6/LonginusBust.png/revision/latest?cb=20160507150414 If you thought Septimus was ugly
15:05.27MonetIt was Oluap wh othought he was ugly.
15:05.51MonetBut man that's a face that's seen a few wars.
15:07.42OluapPlayeru said they were attractive in universe
15:07.43OluapPlayeru lied
15:07.51XhoI never said Longinus was attractive
15:07.57XhoLonginus is battle-scarred to shit
15:08.04MonetWell Septimus was IMO
15:08.24XhoDepends by your standards of beauty as well, may have been different five thousand years ago
15:08.42OluapPlayerOndarei Mharinis - nah m8 ur an ugly shit
15:09.02XhoLonginus - ur a fish
15:09.14OluapPlayerOndarei Mharinis - yeh                 glub
15:09.29XhoBut yeah there's the difference between Septimus and Longinus' skin colour
15:09.37XhoThanks to sun powa
15:11.54XhoSeptimus' skin is typical of most Orichalcum Elf skin colours
15:12.00XhoWhich is not actually yellow kek
15:19.38XhoOluapPlayer: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13177927_967384153376544_120985332397142287_n.jpg?oh=cdbbe2f5a559cdbe5a5df0b80fd60718&oe=57DF59D4
15:19.49OluapPlayersucc
15:20.21Xho"existential succ" - Santorakh
16:03.33Wormy_"Why is Thor teaching me science?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW56dMH0T2s
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16:08.33JepardiHi
16:08.43Monethi
16:09.57OluapPlayerHi
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16:13.24MonetHello
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16:41.42ImpyDroidWell
16:41.51ImpyDroidCivil War was
16:41.58ImpyDroid...Quite good actually, really good
16:45.27Technobliterator:o
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17:26.34ImperiosRight so I presume everyone but Jo watched Civil War now
17:26.44ImperiosAt least everyone who watches the MCUJ
17:28.36XhoMan this day is more dead than dead
17:28.38AdmiralPandaI haven't
17:30.06Wormy_I've not.
17:30.16Xhoy'all terrible
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17:32.04Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13147631_1200444086646133_107131315729847823_o.jpg |>
17:39.07OluapPlayertriangle
17:39.56OluapPlayerXho Imperios: Hachi wants to know if you'll be available to do Odyssey in around an hour from now
17:40.08ImperiosProbably not
17:40.35OluapPlayerOkay
17:40.54XhoProbably not an hour from now but generally speaking yes
17:41.00XhoAnd dammit imp
17:41.15XhoIn that case we could do Storm Chaser
17:41.46OluapPlayerDo you have a prologue now?
17:42.23ImperiosI could do it I guess
17:42.31XhoWell I could write one
17:42.53XhoBut it would be mostly Bone-Breaker's reckless assholery
17:42.58OluapPlayerDo it then because Hachi won't be here for another hour
17:43.36ImperiosOkay I guess I'll do it
17:44.10OluapPlayerAre you even involved in Storm Chaser?
17:44.35ImperiosI mean Odyssey
17:44.44Xhomate its 2hot out here
17:44.55OluapPlayerWe're not doing Odyssey since you're not available
17:45.00XhoWhen I say 2hot I mean 18 C
17:45.08XhoIt was 22 C earlier but still
17:45.12ImperiosI can be available
17:45.19ImperiosLike if you really want
17:45.22ImperiosI can multitask
17:46.28XhoAlright my conditional leave of absence has just taken effect
17:46.31XhoBe back in half an hour or so
17:55.52ImperiosWell fuck this
17:56.16ImperiosApparently this new library I have to use for my coursework program does not even use normal boolean variables
18:03.23ImperiosHm
18:03.35ImperiosWould you say it is feasible to make a crown out of stone
18:05.01MonetIt would be rather heavy
18:05.17MonetBut theoretically, yes
18:09.48Wormy_<PROTECTED>
18:18.15XhoEh 28 minutes not bad
18:18.25XhoNo wait 32 minutes
18:18.26Xhostill not bad
18:18.59XhoAnd it's actually 21 C outside, not 18 C
18:19.14XhoBritish people go mental in this weather
18:25.13OluapPlayerIt's 23 C over here
18:25.22Xhohivemind weather
18:26.19MonetBrits can't handle the heat
18:28.39Imperios14 C here
18:28.49ImperiosIt is already hot for me
18:32.34Wormy_Storm's brewing
18:37.20ImperiosXho: http://www.14-18.it/img/foglio/RML0345096_01/full I'm thinking of giving a crown like this to the Grand Monarch of the Empire of Man
18:37.22ImperiosDo you think that'd work
18:37.31Xho"this is my crown"
18:37.33XhoYeah it would
18:37.43OluapPlayerWhy wouldn't it
18:38.34ImperiosThat's a castle-shaped crown
18:38.40ImperiosLike I wonder if it'd look too weird
18:40.19AdmiralPandamost crowns are vaguely circle shaped anyway
18:40.23AdmiralPandacastle*
18:40.29AdmiralPandaof course they're circle shaped
18:41.15Xhohed
18:42.11XhoOluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Storm_Chaser#Prologue git invadin
18:42.23ImperiosFair point
18:42.49OluapPlayerI'll read in a second
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18:54.44OluapPlayerBone-Breaker - i broke it
18:54.45OluapPlayerrandum
19:02.21XhoBone-Breaker: Breaks Everything, Including Bones
19:03.23AdmiralPandawell tbh if he didn't break bones he'd be looking at suits for false advertising
19:03.53XhoBank-Breaker, goddamn Néva
19:06.08OluapPlayerPelagrios - ive been outsmarted
19:07.33XhoBone-Breaker - im also called break-boner               wanna kno y
19:07.39ImperiosXho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Marble_Crown.png There we have it, Imperial crown
19:07.50XhoThat's a fortress
19:07.57Xhou silly man
19:08.00OluapPlayerapply directly to the forehead
19:08.52XhoWhere's Hachi damnatus
19:09.10OluapPlayerI'm nagging him on Skype but he's not here yet
19:09.25ImperiosXho: That was exactly the reason I asked you if having a fortress-shaped crown was a good idea hur
19:09.38XhoImperios: I know I'm being silly
19:10.39AdmiralPandanow, I'm a man who appreciates a good fancy hat
19:10.48AdmiralPandabut that hat looks like an architect's scale model
19:11.06AdmiralPandaI'm not sure if that adds to the fanciness or makes it not a hat
19:14.33ImperiosIs that a problem or not hur
19:14.45ImperiosAnd if it is a problem how can it be fixed
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19:15.45HachimanHi
19:15.49Monethi
19:16.00OluapPlayerFucking finally
19:16.08OluapPlayerOdyssey for the love of god
19:16.08HachimanI have been occupied most of today
19:16.17AdmiralPandaI mean, the way the tiers are laid out it looks like it'd either be a sombrero, or rather uncomfortable to wear
19:16.40AdmiralPandawhen you linked the image before I thought you were going to make a similar thing, like a crown styled after crenellations
19:17.34ImperiosI imagine it'd be a fairly large crown
19:17.51AdmiralPandato word it differently, the reference material was essentially a band that looked like castle walls, whereas this looks like an actual castle
19:17.57ImperiosHachiman: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Marble_Crown.png Crown
19:18.03ImperiosYes it is a crown
19:18.16ImperiosAnd beleive it or not I actually took it from real life hur
19:18.23ImperiosIt's for the Empire
19:18.25HachimanLooks more like a castle than a crown
19:18.30ImperiosIt's a crown
19:18.33ImperiosShaped like a castle
19:18.40AdmiralPandahttp://www.14-18.it/img/foglio/RML0345096_01/full this was his reference
19:19.16XhoOluapPlayer: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/943762_1717690871801426_8774808184568226630_n.jpg?oh=2689c31cc7d6d7ce663a47da420e0172&oe=57DF1654 Norrigan on his DEUS VULT mode
19:20.05AdmiralPandaI just can't really imagine how its inner structure would look without it basically being a giant sombrero
19:20.28XhoRuns on Pedro Power
19:20.29OluapPlayerPelagrios - WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE RUM IS GONE
19:20.39ImperiosAdmiralPanda: Well the crown I used as a reference I think is like
19:20.43XhoRiad - fukn
19:20.53ImperiosCrenellations with their own crennelations
19:21.27AdmiralPandathe crown you used as a reference is essentially a simple band with fancy detailing
19:22.23ImperiosI think it had tiny... crennelations in each... crennelation
19:23.16AdmiralPandaI'm looking at it now, from what I can see I can't imagine that being much thicker than say half an inch
19:24.58AdmiralPandaultimately my point is, as I said, I can't really see how your crown would actually sit on someone's head, which is really the important thing about crowns
19:25.22The_Randomnessyeah
19:25.38Imperiosrite
19:25.45ImperiosLet me think of how to change it
19:49.45DrodoEmpiretest
19:59.58ImperiosAdmiralPanda Xho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Marble_Crown.png Does that look better?
20:00.27AdmiralPandathat looks more wearable, yeah
20:00.43ImperiosHachiman too
20:00.59XhoSí
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20:51.16wOrmy_awayeating lots of potato can give me a carbohydrate crash
20:53.44AdmiralPandathat tends to be what happens when one eats a lot of carbs
20:54.06OluapPlayerI read that as a lot of crabs
20:55.51AdmiralPandatbh you'd have similar results if you ate a lot of crab, although for different reasons
20:57.51OluapPlayersnip snip

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