| 00:01.05 | Charles_Murray | This being a professional, practicing Indian professor of economics and critic of modern practices of economic development |
| 00:02.12 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 00:03.05 | Charles_Murray | TLDR: He's trying to think of ways that development can be set up such that it can help people out of poverty |
| 00:03.20 | DrodoEmpire | Right, perfectly reasonable |
| 00:06.23 | Wormy_ | DrodoEmpire: We have our own version of rednecks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpxCDjJwUXg |
| 00:07.03 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 00:07.18 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah here in NS we've got people from the trailer park and the countryside. XD |
| 00:13.01 | Monet_2 | Wormy_: Looking at that accent map, I think I have a typical Oxford accent. |
| 00:13.12 | Monet_2 | No surprise really |
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| 00:16.02 | DrodoEmpire | lol |
| 00:16.29 | Wormy_ | I think we used 'int' in Derbyshire |
| 00:17.03 | Monet_2 | Well northern Berkshire is mostly farms. |
| 00:17.53 | Wormy_ | "I DINT do et! (didn't) |
| 00:18.10 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 00:20.09 | Monet_2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:20.10 | Wormy_ | "Ei up mi duck" is a common greeting especially in Nottinghamshire |
| 00:20.32 | The_Randomness | That's bizarre, to me at least |
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| 00:23.41 | Wormy_ | I stayed in Yorkshire on a boat for a while, pickedd up the accent, and my mum scolded me for that, even though Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire words were fine to use |
| 00:24.25 | Wormy_ | Then again, these countries are so close the ialects are sort of relatable |
| 00:24.29 | Wormy_ | *counties |
| 00:24.38 | Monet_2 | I have a Yorkshire born-and-bred grandmother |
| 00:25.12 | DrodoEmpire | Hi DinoHunter |
| 00:25.29 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 00:25.30 | TheDinoHunter | Hi Drodo |
| 00:25.54 | Monet_2 | So I was exposed to Southern pronounciations like "grahs", and Northern pronounciations like "mam" and "bouke" |
| 00:27.21 | Monet_2 | Though my dialect is mostly Southern BBC English. |
| 00:27.59 | Wormy_ | There's some accents I don't like |
| 00:28.07 | Wormy_ | Luton accent is ugly |
| 00:28.35 | Wormy_ | Not sure I like Liverpool or Birmingham accents either |
| 00:31.53 | Monet_2 | Not sure if there's any British Isles accents I don't like |
| 00:34.46 | Wormy_ | "Mama" and "nanna" are common words for Granda in the East Midlands, but we at least don't use "mam". Instead our "U" is very prounced |
| 00:35.31 | Wormy_ | in use https://youtu.be/toiFtvi3gAE?t=59s |
| 00:37.21 | Technobliterator | Wormy_ Not sure I like Liverpool or Birmingham accents either |
| 00:37.23 | Technobliterator | ;_; |
| 00:37.27 | Technobliterator | ;___; |
| 00:37.58 | Wormy_ | Even Birminghamites don't like their accent! |
| 00:38.12 | Technobliterator | This is not far from the truth |
| 00:38.40 | Wormy_ | It's not as bad the Luton one |
| 00:38.52 | Technobliterator | oh god yeah |
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| 00:45.38 | Monet_2 | http://sounds.bl.uk/Accents-and-Dialects/BBC-Voices/021M-C1190X0027XX-0501V0 where I'm from |
| 00:45.57 | Monet_2 | There is a hint of posh in the South I agree. |
| 00:48.21 | Wormy_ | This guy has s stronger (ollder) Derby accent https://youtu.be/pz5YvuVRhB8?t=1m35s |
| 00:49.09 | Wormy_ | This is younder Derby accent https://youtu.be/hxQcERC1tmk?t=36s |
| 00:49.13 | Wormy_ | *younger |
| 00:50.51 | DrodoEmpire | I hear that accent a lot from like videos in the UK |
| 00:54.18 | Monet_2 | We're a very diverse bunch :) |
| 00:54.51 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
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| 00:55.58 | Wormy_ | brook - river |
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| 00:57.09 | Monet_2 | SOmewhat opposite for me. |
| 00:58.01 | Monet_2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:59.37 | Monet_2 | Yorkshire might be a bit like an English Texas thinking about it. |
| 01:00.12 | Monet_2 | Far from the capital, largest county by far, locals have a really distinct accent, and much of th county is ope nspace. |
| 01:00.43 | Monet_2 | But it's very lovely open space. |
| 01:01.20 | DrodoEmpire | True |
| 01:01.34 | DrodoEmpire | Are they particularly religious/well-armed? :p |
| 01:02.11 | Wormy_ | Yes |
| 01:02.25 | DrodoEmpire | Ah lol |
| 01:02.31 | Wormy_ | But they are famed for their hospitality |
| 01:02.43 | Wormy_ | And have lots of sub accents |
| 01:02.46 | DrodoEmpire | Seems like every country has that odd region |
| 01:03.00 | The_Randomness | yeehaw |
| 01:03.04 | Wormy_ | There are odder regions, i.e. East Anglia |
| 01:03.11 | Wormy_ | They still horse and cart industry |
| 01:03.18 | Monet_2 | I'd say England's *real* "odd region" is East ANglia yeah |
| 01:03.21 | DrodoEmpire | Oh wow |
| 01:03.36 | Monet_2 | East Anglia is like...Idunno. |
| 01:03.47 | DrodoEmpire | I mean the old horse and buggy is nice but I never figured there was still a serious market |
| 01:04.05 | Wormy_ | c https://youtu.be/UTVwdv9Pzo8?t=2m40s |
| 01:04.23 | Wormy_ | Then again that video is the late 80's |
| 01:05.44 | Monet_2 | I mostly know East Anglia as this wierd county no one really talks about. |
| 01:05.45 | Wormy_ | The Salisbury Plain is strange place too |
| 01:06.00 | DrodoEmpire | The accent's oddly nice to listen to |
| 01:06.22 | Wormy_ | I personally think the Cornish are very different to rest of England too |
| 01:06.53 | DrodoEmpire | Oh? |
| 01:07.25 | Technobliterator | well, finally some good news from the US election |
| 01:07.26 | Wormy_ | Accents and attitudes |
| 01:07.29 | Technobliterator | Ted Cruz drops out |
| 01:07.31 | Technobliterator | whoooooooooo |
| 01:07.42 | DrodoEmpire | Really? |
| 01:07.53 | TekDroid | Indeed |
| 01:07.57 | DrodoEmpire | Wow |
| 01:08.00 | Wormy_ | When the Naked Rambler walked through the country, well naked, noboidy in Cornwal batted an eye |
| 01:08.08 | DrodoEmpire | Had to go back into hiding, FBI's onto him <.< |
| 01:08.10 | TekDroid | I'm surprised as well. |
| 01:08.30 | TekDroid | It means Trump is effectively uncontested other than Kaisch |
| 01:08.31 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_: wat |
| 01:08.32 | Wormy_ | He's returned to his lair in the Earth's centre |
| 01:08.52 | Technobliterator | Trump winning the GOP nomination was a given anyway |
| 01:08.54 | Wormy_ | Yeah there is this guy who keeps trying to walk from end to the other naked |
| 01:09.00 | The_Randomness | Yeah, it's good that Ted Cruz is out of the campaign, but Trump is still a thing, unfortunately |
| 01:09.03 | Technobliterator | It's just down to if the FBI indicts Clinton and Sanders wins |
| 01:09.11 | Wormy_ | He gets arrested more often the further North he goes, especially Scotland |
| 01:09.14 | Technobliterator | otherwise, it's Clinton vs Trump |
| 01:09.21 | TekDroid | At this point it's just seeing if Trump gets the majority of if the GOP does a brokered convention. |
| 01:09.32 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_: olol |
| 01:10.00 | Wormy_ | Monet, Drodo: East Anglia style https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFBoeZm7-u4 |
| 01:10.20 | Monet_2 | I'm going to miss Obama. |
| 01:10.25 | TekDroid | Technobliterator: Clinton vs Trump makes me glad I'm not American. |
| 01:10.44 | TheDinoHunter | Lucky |
| 01:11.02 | Technobliterator | I really badly wanted Sanders to win |
| 01:11.07 | TekDroid | Though also makes me fear for our southern (and western) borders. |
| 01:11.15 | Technobliterator | But the DNC basically suppressed turnout and turned badly on him to stop that from happening |
| 01:11.24 | The_Randomness | ayy_lmao |
| 01:11.32 | Technobliterator | I'm basically forced to become an American for job opportunities, but Canada is looking more appealing |
| 01:11.32 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_: "Norfolk stoyle" |
| 01:11.48 | The_Randomness | I tend to greatly dislike anything that implies conspiracy |
| 01:11.50 | TekDroid | Your top two candidates on both sides consist of crazy, crazier, corrupt as f***, and Sanders. |
| 01:11.56 | The_Randomness | but I'm not feeling the bern |
| 01:12.18 | Technobliterator | That's not a conspiracy |
| 01:12.24 | TheDinoHunter | TekDroid: that is the truth |
| 01:12.37 | Monet_2 | Technobliterator: Evidence? |
| 01:12.41 | DrodoEmpire | Tech: There used to be a lot of good jobs out west, but ever since oil took a bit of a plunge... |
| 01:12.47 | Technobliterator | What evidence do you need ._. |
| 01:12.56 | The_Randomness | yes it is, you're implying that the DNC purposefully suppressed voter turnout in order to get "shillary" to win |
| 01:12.57 | Technobliterator | Closed primaries suppress turnout |
| 01:13.05 | Technobliterator | the thing in Arizona and New York was a joke |
| 01:13.16 | Technobliterator | Literally every media outlet gave Sanders little to no coverage |
| 01:13.26 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah there was likely some form of corruption going on |
| 01:13.27 | Technobliterator | Or spinned everything to be in favour of Clinton |
| 01:13.32 | Technobliterator | This is right in front of you |
| 01:13.44 | Monet_2 | Alright alright |
| 01:13.48 | Technobliterator | They purposefully skewed things because they know who their nominee should be |
| 01:14.04 | Monet_2 | I know that every US media group does that |
| 01:14.18 | Technobliterator | I just think that if they had given more even exposure to both of them, then Bernie would be in the lead, so I do not think this has been even close to fair |
| 01:14.31 | Technobliterator | Then again, on the flip side, on most of the internet, the reverse is true |
| 01:14.37 | Wormy_ | That reminds me, I've lost respect for Corbyn now totally |
| 01:14.37 | Technobliterator | it's basically a Bernie circlejerk |
| 01:14.41 | The_Randomness | yeah |
| 01:14.44 | The_Randomness | And that's why I hate this |
| 01:15.10 | The_Randomness | because it's mostly "dae feel the bern" and "fuck shillary" |
| 01:15.23 | DrodoEmpire | Well don't let the fact something's annoying blind you to what's actually happening |
| 01:15.23 | Technobliterator | Did you know Clinton had spent $1 million on a "correct the record" program to pay people to troll for her? :p |
| 01:15.27 | DrodoEmpire | That's the opposite reaction |
| 01:15.28 | Monet_2 | Trump's got no problems because he *owns* a large media group. |
| 01:15.37 | Technobliterator | No, that's nothing to do with it |
| 01:15.40 | Technobliterator | The media are against Trump |
| 01:15.44 | Technobliterator | But he gives them good ratings |
| 01:15.51 | Technobliterator | so they give him lots of free media |
| 01:15.55 | Wormy_ | He will not admit Antisemitism is a problem in the Labour party, and use the excuse that it's a Blairite distraction. Sure, the Blairites will be doing that, but that doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist. |
| 01:16.28 | Monet_2 | I'm going to take a step back actually. My awareness of what's going on in the States is rather spotty. |
| 01:16.30 | TekDroid | I just find the primary system as a whole broken. Scratch that, your entire two party electoral system is inherently broken. |
| 01:16.41 | Technobliterator | Yes, first past the post is godawful |
| 01:16.45 | Monet_2 | Largely because my attention is on other goings-on |
| 01:16.56 | Technobliterator | oh well, guess I'm going to be living in a country controlled by Trump soon |
| 01:17.08 | DrodoEmpire | Well if we vote in Daddy, he'll build that wall, get rid of the parties, and everything will be fabulous <.< |
| 01:17.17 | TekDroid | Hell, even the winner takes all of a whole state instead of proportional. |
| 01:17.32 | Technobliterator | Proportional is how the dems do it |
| 01:17.46 | Technobliterator | The DNC primary was a mess |
| 01:18.07 | TekDroid | Actually I started rambling about the electoral college there, sorry. |
| 01:18.23 | Technobliterator | It was already set up for a Hillary win, they honestly had never planned to go beyond a few more states before everyone else had dropped out |
| 01:18.27 | Monet_2 | The main thing I'm taking away is that thanks to the exponensial expansion of mass media, we dug this hole of "Trump for president" |
| 01:18.28 | Technobliterator | the RNC primary was a bigger mess |
| 01:18.51 | Technobliterator | it was just millions of people fighting amongst themselves to try and stop Trump winning |
| 01:18.53 | Technobliterator | and utterly failing |
| 01:19.06 | Technobliterator | Trump just made them look like such idiots |
| 01:19.08 | Technobliterator | because they are |
| 01:19.17 | DrodoEmpire | Just let daddy make america great again >.> |
| 01:19.21 | Monet_2 | Modern American culture means unless you're a raving lunatic, no one will pay attention. |
| 01:19.34 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Or otherwise eccentric |
| 01:20.11 | Monet_2 | Yeah |
| 01:20.34 | Monet_2 | The 21st century president has to be entertaining or no one cares. |
| 01:20.41 | TheDinoHunter | Truth |
| 01:21.31 | Technobliterator | but at least Obama was charimastic |
| 01:21.35 | Technobliterator | and a genuinely cool guy |
| 01:21.48 | The_Randomness | thanks obama |
| 01:21.51 | TekDroid | You can blame the existence of primaries in general on that. The nature of them favours more radical candidates. |
| 01:22.02 | Technobliterator | Yeah, like McGovern |
| 01:22.03 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah he had a good personality the voters liked that |
| 01:22.06 | Technobliterator | who was just totally unelectable |
| 01:22.15 | DrodoEmpire | *and the voters |
| 01:22.22 | Technobliterator | Obama had great ideas as well, just none of them got through |
| 01:22.33 | Technobliterator | either because he started listening to donors or because Congress blocked him |
| 01:22.44 | DrodoEmpire | Thankfully, he also had good policies that Congress didn't like |
| 01:22.49 | DrodoEmpire | Unfortunately |
| 01:23.22 | TekDroid | Let me rephrase that, their more closed nature causes primaries to promote radical candidates |
| 01:24.10 | Technobliterator | this election cycle is so depressing |
| 01:24.27 | Technobliterator | why does it have to last for so freaking long |
| 01:24.30 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:25.15 | Monet_2 | Here in the UK we had 1-3 months of campaigns, the elections themselves and we were all done. |
| 01:25.24 | Technobliterator | yeah in the UK we're awful |
| 01:25.30 | Technobliterator | because of, again, first past the post |
| 01:25.36 | Technobliterator | and even worse politicians |
| 01:25.41 | Monet_2 | That's not my point |
| 01:26.23 | Monet_2 | I regret saying that now. |
| 01:26.54 | Technobliterator | I literally hate every single party at this point, that's why I'm not voting on Thursday |
| 01:27.00 | Technobliterator | they can all burn for all I care \o/ |
| 01:27.23 | The_Randomness | yeah, and not voting sure will help things |
| 01:27.31 | The_Randomness | because my vote doesn't make a difference, right? |
| 01:27.42 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:27.42 | Technobliterator | The_Randomness, it really doesn't with first past the post |
| 01:27.51 | DrodoEmpire | Stop being so edgy Tech |
| 01:27.54 | The_Randomness | ^ |
| 01:27.56 | Technobliterator | The more you express your preference, the less representative it becomes |
| 01:27.58 | DrodoEmpire | It does, its just a bad system |
| 01:28.06 | The_Randomness | And god damn this channel has become a massive circlejerk |
| 01:28.06 | Technobliterator | And please find another word other than "edgy" |
| 01:28.31 | Monet_2 | What scares me about 'what does one vote matter?' is when hundreds of thousands think the same thing. |
| 01:28.41 | DrodoEmpire | Well no, because you're trying too hard and you don't really get it |
| 01:28.43 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 01:28.46 | Wormy_ | I question whether the alternative of proportionate voting is actually any better |
| 01:28.54 | Technobliterator | No, it's not |
| 01:28.55 | Wormy_ | In fact it enpowers parties like UKIP |
| 01:29.03 | Technobliterator | Single transferable vote would be better |
| 01:29.05 | DrodoEmpire | FPTP isn't a great system, but your vote still matters |
| 01:29.14 | Technobliterator | My vote doesn't matter at all |
| 01:29.22 | Technobliterator | And I don't think any of the parties have earned it |
| 01:29.33 | DrodoEmpire | In fact it does- Its just everybody else's matters just as much and you don't like that idea |
| 01:29.43 | Technobliterator | Nope |
| 01:29.45 | DrodoEmpire | Then vote for some smalltime independent |
| 01:29.58 | Technobliterator | Yeah, we have smalltime independents, they're useless |
| 01:30.03 | DrodoEmpire | And push for voting reform instead of complaining |
| 01:30.07 | The_Randomness | ^ |
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| 01:30.14 | Technobliterator | You're really not going to persuade me to vote for anyone |
| 01:30.28 | Wormy__ | Jo's feels are routed in something true however |
| 01:30.38 | DrodoEmpire | That's fine- don't matter to me |
| 01:31.01 | DrodoEmpire | You're the one acting, frankly, a little entitled. :p Again, I understand your concerns and your concern is valid |
| 01:31.06 | Technobliterator | So why attack someone for being "edgy" because they feel disenfranchised ._. |
| 01:31.30 | DrodoEmpire | But the solution *isn't* throwing down the ball and saying "this game's dumb anyway and you're all sheep for doing it!" |
| 01:31.33 | The_Randomness | ^ |
| 01:31.37 | Wormy__ | Our main parties are not that different in policy; there is an unfair distribution of seats afforded to each party; and some parts of the country aren't even represented. Our election results in 2015 were the worst on record. |
| 01:31.39 | DrodoEmpire | *That's* pretty edgy |
| 01:31.57 | Technobliterator | When did I call everyone sheep? |
| 01:32.18 | Wormy__ | But the only way to solve is to vote |
| 01:32.33 | Technobliterator | I simply said I do not feel any of the current parties have earned my vote |
| 01:32.42 | Technobliterator | And that the system which perpetuates them is useless |
| 01:32.55 | Technobliterator | Therefore, I do not care to put in the effort |
| 01:33.14 | Wormy__ | It's not particularly edgy, it actually reflects what a lot of people feel. |
| 01:33.34 | Monet_2 | So the solution is removing yourself entirely fro mthe democratic process and complaining to friends. |
| 01:33.36 | The_Randomness | Wormy__: It's horribly pessimistic though and a damaging sentiment |
| 01:34.03 | Technobliterator | My solution is to choose not to vote. It's that simple. |
| 01:34.03 | Wormy__ | I agree, and it might have contributed to the overall problem |
| 01:34.30 | Wormy__ | We need more young people to vote for a start |
| 01:34.40 | Technobliterator | As long as this country does not make voting punishable by fine, I do not feel any obligation |
| 01:35.14 | Wormy__ | You should look into punk Jo |
| 01:35.25 | Wormy__ | Stuff like guerilla gardening |
| 01:35.29 | Technobliterator | :P |
| 01:35.37 | Technobliterator | This may not be a bad idea |
| 01:35.46 | Wormy__ | People who want to make change through unconventional ways to say the least |
| 01:35.47 | The_Randomness | This is just me, but I see something interesting about not participating in the political system, and then complaining about it when things don't go your way. |
| 01:35.55 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:36.00 | DrodoEmpire | Again, voting reform, and the push for it is always an option |
| 01:36.08 | The_Randomness | Be the change that you want to see in the world |
| 01:36.14 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:36.14 | The_Randomness | Because doing nothing, well, does nothing |
| 01:36.16 | Technobliterator | Why are you acting like I'm complaining because I'm not getting my way? |
| 01:36.21 | The_Randomness | Because you are |
| 01:36.44 | Technobliterator | This is nothing to do with the fact that I despise the current government |
| 01:37.02 | Technobliterator | That's only tangentially related |
| 01:37.03 | DrodoEmpire | Except it does or else you'd vote |
| 01:37.34 | Technobliterator | I despise the system that perpetuates its existence, which can never be solved through vote |
| 01:37.48 | Wormy__ | Well, we didn't have much choice in 2015 did we? |
| 01:37.53 | Monet_2 | Have you ever written to your MP? |
| 01:37.54 | Technobliterator | Because politicians are not public servants, they're only interested in their own power |
| 01:38.03 | The_Randomness | ZZZ |
| 01:38.18 | Technobliterator | There will be no change, because it does not benefit them to change |
| 01:38.30 | Technobliterator | So I have absolutely no interest in contributing to the process |
| 01:38.35 | The_Randomness | Alright, now it does sound like what Drodo said earlier |
| 01:38.36 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, let's go grab an assault rifle and storm parliament! |
| 01:38.42 | DrodoEmpire | Revolution now! |
| 01:38.44 | The_Randomness | DrodoEmpire: dae revolution always works |
| 01:38.55 | Technobliterator | When did I say anything about that .____. |
| 01:38.58 | Wormy__ | No-one mentioned revolution |
| 01:39.02 | DrodoEmpire | Feel the bern! Socialism! Behead the royal family! |
| 01:39.13 | Wormy__ | Abd actually, most of our politicians are shitty |
| 01:39.21 | DrodoEmpire | I'm being a dick now, but you know. |
| 01:39.28 | Technobliterator | Yes, you are. |
| 01:39.36 | The_Randomness | yeah, that's going a bit far |
| 01:39.50 | DrodoEmpire | Bah, alright |
| 01:39.58 | The_Randomness | But not participating only makes the issue worse |
| 01:40.06 | Technobliterator | My point is that nothing's going to change, so I feel no obligation to be involved |
| 01:40.07 | DrodoEmpire | In all seriousness I do find it hypocritical |
| 01:40.20 | The_Randomness | As fewer people vote, the less representative political representation becomes |
| 01:40.22 | DrodoEmpire | It won't change if you continue not to do anything |
| 01:40.33 | DrodoEmpire | What you're doing is making the issue worse |
| 01:40.35 | Technobliterator | It won't change if I do anything either |
| 01:40.35 | The_Randomness | The system *depends on your participation* to be successful |
| 01:40.44 | Technobliterator | I don't have the power to do anything |
| 01:40.52 | DrodoEmpire | You do, its a democracy |
| 01:41.02 | DrodoEmpire | Your inaction- The inaction of everybody- Has lead to this |
| 01:41.04 | Wormy__ | Well, it's not changing very much as it currently stands, so there is a problem. But its always better to vote than not |
| 01:41.16 | DrodoEmpire | You have only yourself and your countrymen to blame for the current state of affaira |
| 01:41.18 | DrodoEmpire | *s |
| 01:41.32 | DrodoEmpire | For letting politics become corrupt and detached |
| 01:41.38 | Wormy__ | I'm being the mediator here yes, I see both sides as being right in some sense but lacking context of the other |
| 01:41.55 | Wormy__ | No |
| 01:42.20 | Wormy__ | The votes made by British people did not match the seats respresented in Paliament |
| 01:42.28 | Technobliterator | Yes |
| 01:42.36 | Wormy__ | There is a difference between what British people want and what we get |
| 01:42.42 | Technobliterator | It was a complete joke |
| 01:43.03 | DrodoEmpire | That's right, because the British people became indifferent |
| 01:43.08 | Wormy__ | Are countrymen to blame here? |
| 01:43.22 | Technobliterator | I am of the opinion that a party should have to earn my vote. I do not feel that any of them have. |
| 01:43.30 | DrodoEmpire | Yes, as a whole, yes. It has been *allowed* to become this. But it can change through action |
| 01:43.45 | Wormy__ | But its not true of the last election? |
| 01:43.46 | Technobliterator | No it can't |
| 01:43.47 | DrodoEmpire | Not even just voting- Political activism, voting reform, etc. |
| 01:44.00 | DrodoEmpire | And that's is the *exact* sort of cynicism that led to this, Tech |
| 01:44.01 | Technobliterator | There's basically nothing we can do |
| 01:44.05 | DrodoEmpire | It feeds into itself |
| 01:44.10 | Technobliterator | but either way, I'm tired |
| 01:44.22 | Technobliterator | gnight |
| 01:44.25 | DrodoEmpire | And the fact that you have the gall to say you can't do anything in a western liberal democracy is very telling :p |
| 01:44.33 | DrodoEmpire | No offense... |
| 01:44.45 | DrodoEmpire | Night. |
| 01:45.05 | Wormy__ | I'm pro liberal deocracy and open society but that means fighting to keep it open. Its not as open as it could be. |
| 01:45.24 | Wormy__ | I don't know how the issue will be solved however |
| 01:46.05 | The_Randomness | Wormy__: We can try to improve it though, even if the solution isn't clear |
| 01:46.06 | Monet_2 | Its fighting entropy really. |
| 01:46.13 | DrodoEmpire | There's no easy or clear solution- Only very adamant and very large-scale political action from the citizenry to reassert democracy can do it |
| 01:46.35 | The_Randomness | And that means get out the vote, gdi |
| 01:46.35 | Monet_2 | A fair democratic process is not something you earn and can live with, one has ot fight to keep it clean. |
| 01:46.38 | Wormy__ | Viva la revolution! |
| 01:46.58 | The_Randomness | That's just burning down the house you live in |
| 01:47.15 | DrodoEmpire | ^ Revolutions are highly volatile |
| 01:48.40 | Wormy__ | I'm only joking |
| 01:48.57 | DrodoEmpire | Right. >.< |
| 01:49.01 | Wormy__ | But thats what "re-asserting democracy" sounds like |
| 01:49.28 | DrodoEmpire | With any luck, no |
| 01:49.47 | Wormy__ | The problem is, this change could take decades |
| 01:49.51 | DrodoEmpire | Its a terribly vague phrase- But no doubt it'd result in a *lot* of scandals, and a *lot* of politicians gone |
| 01:49.52 | Wormy__ | Honestly |
| 01:50.07 | Wormy__ | There is a reason Techno feels the way she does |
| 01:50.21 | The_Randomness | Yes, I understand disillusionment |
| 01:50.26 | DrodoEmpire | It could, but why be so selfish to do this only for ourselves? |
| 01:50.28 | The_Randomness | But all it does is hamper things |
| 01:50.35 | DrodoEmpire | We do have our children to stand up for, after all. |
| 01:50.50 | DrodoEmpire | Or rather, the next generation |
| 01:50.52 | Wormy__ | So we have criticise the system and the politicians too, and not just the countrymen. |
| 01:51.09 | The_Randomness | Right, but who put them there? |
| 01:51.13 | DrodoEmpire | Well right, and I do- But the main cause *is* an indifferent populace |
| 01:51.21 | The_Randomness | We have no-one to blame but ourselves |
| 01:51.23 | DrodoEmpire | That must change for everything else to |
| 01:51.26 | Wormy__ | I don't know what that can be, some people think proportional voting will work. But I;m sceptical. |
| 01:51.42 | DrodoEmpire | There're a lot of odd systems, but I'd take anything over FPTP |
| 01:52.04 | DrodoEmpire | Well, besides hereditary rule. :p |
| 01:52.28 | Wormy__ | Why are you so hesitant to criticise the system? |
| 01:52.36 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not |
| 01:52.41 | DrodoEmpire | Its just been done to death |
| 01:52.46 | DrodoEmpire | I have something different to add |
| 01:52.53 | Wormy__ | Maybe |
| 01:53.38 | DrodoEmpire | The system's corrupt, it does not represent the people, it has become detached from reality and from the people and is near-oligarchic- assuming it isn't already |
| 01:53.45 | Monet_2 | It's easy to be dissatisfied, but it is hard to act on doing something about it. |
| 01:53.53 | The_Randomness | ^ |
| 01:53.56 | DrodoEmpire | But the cause for that is indifferent citizenry allowing the ambitions of politicians to go unchecked |
| 01:54.07 | DrodoEmpire | It need not be that way |
| 01:54.24 | Wormy__ | Yeah, I'll agree the fact that less young people vote put a wrench in things |
| 01:54.44 | Wormy__ | Russel Brand is partly to blame for that |
| 01:54.46 | Monet_2 | There is that. There are plenty of cases where, no matter wh oit is, peopel will vote for the same party tiem and time again. |
| 01:55.07 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:55.13 | DrodoEmpire | Again, indifference and also tribalism |
| 01:55.15 | Monet_2 | some people* |
| 01:56.41 | Monet_2 | WHen it comes ot electing MPs, very few vote for the MP that makes sense. |
| 01:56.58 | Monet_2 | The vast majority vote for the MP who is part of the party they like. |
| 01:57.13 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 01:57.35 | Wormy__ | well, maybe its because that paty offers something different |
| 01:57.53 | Wormy__ | I voted Greens and Labour locally |
| 01:58.06 | Monet_2 | Wormy_: That's my point. |
| 01:58.15 | Wormy__ | Though fully voting Green would have been a waste |
| 01:58.31 | Wormy__ | They at least offer some diversity, whether or not I like them |
| 01:58.36 | Monet_2 | You voted for the parties locally, but do you know anything about the Green and Labour candidates you chose? |
| 01:59.21 | Wormy__ | Tbh I can't remember. But the Tories have done worse things in my town |
| 01:59.45 | Monet_2 | I know the feeling honestly. |
| 01:59.53 | Wormy__ | slashed charities because they didn't believe poor people lived there |
| 02:00.15 | Wormy__ | tried to build on a greenbelt |
| 02:00.21 | Wormy__ | Would Greens do that? |
| 02:00.26 | Monet_2 | My local constituency was Lib-Dem before 2010, we had a candidate who basically drove my hometwon to ruin. |
| 02:00.38 | Monet_2 | But I'd still vote Lib-Dem. |
| 02:00.46 | DrodoEmpire | https://i.gyazo.com/37bd1b476959b78ba7e51b990b06ef08.png |
| 02:00.53 | Wormy__ | I used to be a Lib-Dem |
| 02:00.56 | DrodoEmpire | A little old now but funny |
| 02:01.11 | Wormy__ | Quite honestly I think they have become weak |
| 02:01.20 | The_Randomness | savage |
| 02:01.26 | Monet_2 | I'd vote lib-dem because I know that not every one of them is like that guy. |
| 02:03.02 | Monet_2 | You just demonstrated some of the behaviour Drodo suggested, since you referred to the tories as the genral body, and not the local county council. |
| 02:03.21 | Wormy__ | They are the local council |
| 02:03.39 | DrodoEmpire | Huh? |
| 02:03.54 | DrodoEmpire | Did I make a good point somewhere? Wha? |
| 02:04.04 | DrodoEmpire | Must've been an accident- What was I referring to? |
| 02:04.24 | Wormy__ | Those things I described, were and are opposed by other local MPs |
| 02:04.37 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh, yes |
| 02:04.40 | DrodoEmpire | Now I see |
| 02:04.46 | Monet_2 | Wormy_: Here's the page for m local MP http://www.parliament.uk/biographies/commons/kelly-tolhurst/4487 |
| 02:06.10 | Monet_2 | They're not all hearless, its more of a case-by-case basis. |
| 02:06.27 | Wormy__ | Still, if you really dislied the current council body, and had any opportunity to choose an alternative, it is not a bad move to make if one wants change. |
| 02:07.26 | Monet_2 | It's not. |
| 02:08.00 | Monet_2 | It might be more that I try to avoid partisan thinking. |
| 02:08.04 | Wormy__ | I like that people like Corbyn and Sanders had some prominence, whether or not I agree with many of their policies I welcome the fact that they seem different and that can possibly get more people voting |
| 02:08.15 | The_Randomness | yeah |
| 02:08.43 | Wormy__ | However, I now question whether Corbyn is half the man his supporters think he is |
| 02:09.05 | Wormy__ | And that once again questions whether the Labour party has really changed on many deep thinga |
| 02:09.14 | Wormy__ | Given the Antisemitism row |
| 02:09.34 | Monet_2 | Criticism is at the heart of the democratic process. |
| 02:10.40 | Wormy__ | Yes, and if he fucks up (not angry) the Labour party, then we could get the same lot of politics again for the next 20 years |
| 02:10.58 | Wormy__ | So I'm no optimist here |
| 02:13.46 | Monet_2 | There's no easy solution really |
| 02:14.00 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 02:18.34 | Monet_2 | The thing about pessimism is it can jsut as easily perpetuate the issue. |
| 02:18.41 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 02:18.42 | DrodoEmpire | For sure |
| 02:18.53 | Wormy__ | I agree on that |
| 02:19.59 | DrodoEmpire | Its a horrid feeling, borne from self-pity and irrationality |
| 02:20.47 | Monet_2 | That's one of Democracy's biggest problems: For it to work, one must be of sound mind and judgement. |
| 02:21.07 | Monet_2 | Crowds, or large numbers of peopel in general, tend to not be that. |
| 02:21.13 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 02:21.25 | DrodoEmpire | Its a contradiction, but a necessary one really |
| 02:22.08 | Wormy__ | I must be in bed |
| 02:22.13 | Wormy__ | goodnight |
| 02:22.23 | DrodoEmpire | Night! |
| 02:22.28 | Monet_2 | goodnight |
| 02:23.13 | Wormy__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:42.31 | The_Randomness | *cricket* |
| 02:43.12 | DrodoEmpire | >: |
| 02:43.49 | The_Randomness | Hopefully I'll be able to make some progress on the sentient species for the collab between all of my schoolwork I have |
| 02:44.06 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah hopefully |
| 02:44.42 | The_Randomness | going to poke this one biology person that I sort of know |
| 02:47.56 | DrodoEmpire | Anyway, I should go |
| 02:48.00 | DrodoEmpire | Night everyone |
| 02:48.01 | The_Randomness | cya |
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| 09:58.40 | Wormy_ | May the Fourth be with you. |
| 09:58.47 | Ghelae | ~give Wormy_ a cookie |
| 09:58.47 | infobot | ACTION gives Wormy_ a home-baked oatmeal raisin cookie to cheer him up. |
| 09:59.02 | Wormy_ | devours it like he hasn't eaten in a week. |
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| 10:02.15 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 10:02.29 | Ghelae | ~give Jepardi a cookie |
| 10:02.29 | infobot | ACTION gives Jepardi a home-baked sugar cookie to cheer him up. |
| 10:04.42 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
| 10:05.13 | ImpyDroid | sets his phaser to stun and shoots Wormy_ |
| 10:05.31 | Wormy_ | lightsaber bounces it |
| 10:06.45 | ImpyDroid | You just reminded me of that time when I spoiled myself about Force Awakens |
| 10:06.52 | ImpyDroid | Must have been why I did not like it |
| 10:25.54 | Wormy_ | Oh come on, I liked it, and I'm the most venomous about the EU being made non-cannon. |
| 10:30.49 | ImpyDroid | Nah it was good but I did not *love* it |
| 10:31.07 | ImpyDroid | I mean it was good for a beginning of the new trilogy but it did not offer much new |
| 10:31.17 | ImpyDroid | I am more interested by Rogue One personally |
| 11:13.13 | Wormy_ | I understand that, they could have used some distinguishing environments or aliens. |
| 11:13.28 | Wormy_ | Though the new characters are quite original for movie-based Star Wars |
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| 11:22.58 | Wormy_ | hi |
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| 11:31.11 | MedwedianPreside | hello |
| 11:31.20 | MedwedianPreside | I am making an adventure right now |
| 11:31.23 | MedwedianPreside | space combat |
| 11:31.31 | MedwedianPreside | where you board an enemy ship |
| 11:31.35 | MedwedianPreside | Good idea? |
| 11:31.36 | Liquid_Ink | Cool |
| 11:31.41 | Liquid_Ink | Yes, it is. |
| 11:32.21 | MedwedianPreside | I use a really small planet |
| 11:32.23 | MedwedianPreside | and color it black |
| 11:32.26 | MedwedianPreside | to make it invisible |
| 11:32.33 | MedwedianPreside | and make it look like deep space |
| 11:34.22 | MedwedianPreside | BTW, is it okay |
| 11:34.31 | MedwedianPreside | if i make my contributions to the fiction universe |
| 11:34.35 | MedwedianPreside | hard sci-fi? |
| 11:34.59 | Liquid_Ink | Of course |
| 11:35.37 | MedwedianPreside | Like ships have a limited delta-v |
| 11:35.39 | MedwedianPreside | G-forces |
| 11:35.54 | MedwedianPreside | space ships and space fighters that actually look like space ships and not that things from star wars |
| 11:36.14 | Wormy_ | I'm a hard SF fan too :D |
| 11:36.49 | Wormy_ | The fiction universe as a whole isn't hard SF by any means, but some us really try |
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| 12:04.48 | MedwedianPreside | Anyway |
| 12:05.01 | MedwedianPreside | Who wants to give me tips on constructing my fiction? |
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| 12:07.41 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
| 12:15.02 | ImpyDroid2 | Hi Pan |
| 12:15.14 | ImpyDroid2 | MedwedianPreside: Use correct layout and the like |
| 12:15.20 | ImpyDroid2 | Proper organisation |
| 12:42.55 | MedwedianPreside | Does anybody want to interact with my empire? |
| 12:42.57 | MedwedianPreside | Tier 4 or tier 3 |
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| 12:49.02 | Monet | Hello |
| 12:50.02 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 12:50.54 | MedwedianPreside | HELLO |
| 12:52.44 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 12:53.06 | Wormy_ | I must be going |
| 12:55.04 | ImpyDroid2 | hi |
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| 14:21.26 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 14:23.45 | Monet | Hello |
| 14:24.07 | OluapPlayer | poke |
| 14:24.36 | Ghel | Hello. |
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| 15:42.38 | Treebeard1010102 | How are images of multiple ships in space (such as "GrandGalacticFleet.png") created? |
| 16:00.46 | Monet | WHat ocmponents specifically? |
| 16:01.20 | Monet | The usual trick is to disguise a gate as an object and set it high i nthe air |
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| 16:17.19 | OluapPlayer | spu |
| 16:17.29 | Xho | squak |
| 16:18.20 | Monet | Hello |
| 16:20.17 | Xho | So yesterday my place of work got a call from the doctor surgery saying that apparently my mother was with them and they were concerned for my health |
| 16:20.28 | Xho | This was at 5:10 pm and both of us were at home |
| 16:21.03 | OluapPlayer | dat scam |
| 16:22.06 | Xho | Either that or I will drop dead in the next 24 hours |
| 16:23.58 | Hachiman | Congratulations |
| 16:25.00 | OluapPlayer | if we're lucky |
| 16:26.16 | Xho | y u do dis |
| 16:30.32 | OluapPlayer | haw haw |
| 16:32.16 | TekDroid | Oh no. Kaisch just dropped out. The Republican Primaries now consist only of Trump. All hail President Trump. |
| 16:33.45 | Xho | Oh we're fucked |
| 16:33.46 | Hachiman | Would you rather have had the Zodiac Killer as President though |
| 16:34.51 | Monet | Everyone will beg "come back Obama!" |
| 16:35.02 | Hachiman | Obama can't run again though |
| 16:35.16 | TekDroid | Hachiman: Kaisch was still better than the other two. Even though he was in 4th place. XD |
| 16:35.19 | Hachiman | Also no they won't because Obama is rather unpopular in certain regions |
| 16:35.59 | Monet | He's less of a lunatic than Trump though. |
| 16:36.50 | Monet | I am also aware that presidents can't serve for more than two consecutive terms. |
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| 16:54.39 | Hachiman | Hi Imp |
| 16:54.55 | Imperios | ihcaH iH |
| 16:55.35 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 16:55.51 | Monet | hi |
| 17:07.16 | Hachiman | Imperios: I wonder what will become of countries, like the UK, when religious beliefs are overwhelmed or rendered practically extinct by atheism |
| 17:07.33 | Imperios | Well |
| 17:07.36 | Imperios | Look at East Asia |
| 17:07.41 | Imperios | East Asia is mostly atheist |
| 17:07.50 | Technobliterator | Kasich dropped out? |
| 17:07.59 | Imperios | Or the USSR at that |
| 17:08.01 | Technobliterator | oh well |
| 17:08.02 | Hachiman | Not advocating the greatness of atheism mind you, it has been statistically proven that atheism is on a significant rise in the UK |
| 17:08.03 | Imperios | Hi |
| 17:08.09 | Imperios | Well it makes sense |
| 17:08.17 | Technobliterator | Get used to saying President Trump, guys |
| 17:08.32 | Imperios | We're like the only Christian country where religion is on the rise |
| 17:08.43 | Imperios | And it is only because we had a low start to begin with |
| 17:08.49 | Imperios | What with commies |
| 17:08.56 | Imperios | Poland too maybe but that's because they hate Muslims |
| 17:09.10 | Imperios | Also, last but not the least |
| 17:09.20 | Imperios | Fedoras everywhere |
| 17:09.36 | Imperios | My dream, I love hats |
| 17:09.36 | Hachiman | I have seen people speculate that without religion, people will become deprived of reasons to gather together and learn empathy for one another; that if atheism outdoes religion, that communities and individuals will become more lonely and less empathetic |
| 17:09.50 | Imperios | Perhaps |
| 17:10.02 | Imperios | Religion serves as a great unifying factor |
| 17:10.16 | Imperios | But in its absence other groups of people will emerge |
| 17:10.30 | Monet | Atheism is on the rise, yes, but that doesn't mean irreligiosity wil ltake over. |
| 17:11.12 | Hachiman | I feel that one of the issues with atheism taking prominence over religion is that atheist communities will not learn from the more benign and beneficial values religion has brought to people |
| 17:12.48 | OluapPlayer | Boring day |
| 17:13.56 | Technobliterator | I think society will continue as normal and very little will change if religion is gone |
| 17:14.04 | Technobliterator | It won't be a big deal |
| 17:14.10 | OluapPlayer | Ho boy this discussion |
| 17:14.17 | OluapPlayer | I'm off |
| 17:14.29 | Hachiman | non |
| 17:14.32 | Hachiman | It's not flamey |
| 17:14.57 | Xho | hao bout u rp den |
| 17:15.05 | Hachiman | Because I don't RP on college days |
| 17:15.12 | Monet | I'm staying off this discussion now too. |
| 17:15.28 | Monet | Dangerous territory. |
| 17:15.29 | Technobliterator | Is this even close to flamey? : | |
| 17:15.33 | Xho | y'all terrible |
| 17:15.48 | Hachiman | I don't see how this is dangerous territory |
| 17:15.57 | Technobliterator | I think people in this channel are just way too sensitive |
| 17:16.20 | Monet | "religion's presence or asense is no big deal now" - I don't want ot answer this. |
| 17:16.27 | Xho | Technobliterator: That's how you start making discussions flamey right there |
| 17:16.44 | OluapPlayer | I'm out because I don't come here to talk about religion |
| 17:16.44 | Imperios | We're tipping fedoras left and right here |
| 17:16.53 | Imperios | Hachiman: Actually |
| 17:17.16 | Technobliterator | I think it's true. People here generally get triggered or offended by anything |
| 17:17.20 | Hachiman | I feel I am tipping my fedora the least since I actually proposed that atheist prominence might not entirely be a good thing |
| 17:17.37 | Imperios | I am kidding right now hur |
| 17:18.12 | Imperios | With MUSLAMIC RAYGUNS on the rise and people who WAN' BRI'N TO BE 'BOU' BRI'ISH rising in turn |
| 17:18.17 | Technobliterator | I just think it will have no huge impact |
| 17:18.21 | Imperios | Perhaps we will see an American-esque resurgence of Christianity |
| 17:18.41 | Imperios | Like |
| 17:18.48 | Imperios | Christianic phasers |
| 17:18.52 | Technobliterator | It will mean a lot to individual people, but generally to society as a whole, it will be non-consequential |
| 17:19.03 | Monet | A number of us bear social or learning difficulties, so yes sensetivity is something to consider. |
| 17:19.15 | Hachiman | SAFE SPACE |
| 17:19.27 | Imperios | [TRIGGERED] |
| 17:20.54 | Xho | [meh] |
| 17:21.11 | Xho | So I'm doing some random music stuff |
| 17:21.16 | Xho | This sounds pretty space-y |
| 17:21.46 | Technobliterator | The fact that someone can say that a loss of religion will be neither a good nor a bad thing and be responded with being told they're being flamey or offesnive is kind of worrying, though |
| 17:22.09 | Imperios | Jo, bane of Tumblrinas |
| 17:22.35 | Technobliterator | pfft |
| 17:23.04 | Imperios | I say this and I am like the most Tumblristic person on the wiki |
| 17:23.15 | Imperios | In terms of being offendable |
| 17:23.15 | OluapPlayer | More like how you're talking about religion at all |
| 17:23.22 | Hachiman | I do not feel as if I am pushing any religious or anti-religious agenda |
| 17:23.29 | OluapPlayer | I don't even know the context of the conversation, I just wish it'd stop |
| 17:23.41 | Imperios | I think OP says that he does not like discussions about religion because it does not interest him |
| 17:23.44 | Imperios | Rather than being offensive |
| 17:23.49 | Technobliterator | Yeah, I don't mind thinking that |
| 17:23.51 | OluapPlayer | Correct |
| 17:23.53 | Imperios | C |
| 17:23.56 | Monet | When it comes to assertive opinions, the wrong word i nthe wrong place can trigger a full flame war. |
| 17:24.06 | Imperios | He simply has nothing to add like I have nothing to add to your video game discussions mostly |
| 17:24.07 | Xho | Heck this is like Space Meshuggah |
| 17:24.29 | Hachiman | Monet: AUTISM NEEDS TO BE CURED AND NOT GLORIFIED BOOM |
| 17:24.41 | Imperios | I agree |
| 17:24.53 | Technobliterator | Yes, and that's pretty awful. People shouldn't feel like they are walking a minefield because saying the slightest thing wrong can lead to a flame war. : | |
| 17:24.54 | OluapPlayer | Population cull when |
| 17:25.09 | OluapPlayer | Starting with the UK and then Russia |
| 17:25.12 | Technobliterator | I mean, I get the concern, don't be a dick |
| 17:25.28 | Technobliterator | No one should be a dick |
| 17:25.46 | Technobliterator | But sometimes it goes a little far |
| 17:25.46 | Imperios | What constitutes curing autism though |
| 17:25.54 | Hachiman | Getting rid of it hur |
| 17:26.01 | Technobliterator | it's generally why I don't subscribe to the safe space tumblr attitude |
| 17:26.04 | Imperios | But like that's part of someone's personality |
| 17:26.09 | Imperios | So I presume like removing its negative effects |
| 17:26.15 | OluapPlayer | Autism has a biological origin |
| 17:26.26 | OluapPlayer | Obviously one you can't just 'cure' |
| 17:26.31 | Imperios | It's like mental |
| 17:26.34 | Technobliterator | yeah, but Hachi was joking |
| 17:26.36 | Technobliterator | (I hope) |
| 17:26.38 | Imperios | True that |
| 17:26.51 | Hachiman | I have my reservations about the social treatment of autistic people |
| 17:27.21 | Imperios | We just kind of ignore that issue |
| 17:27.23 | Hachiman | As an autistic person I feel it is worse to glorify having a disease than telling people that it is not a good thing |
| 17:27.49 | Imperios | One thing I know for certain |
| 17:27.51 | Technobliterator | I think it's a difficult situation. On the one hand, it's kind of silly to give them preferential treatment. On the other, it's not exactly fair to just tell someone to stfu and deal with their condition. |
| 17:27.51 | Imperios | I do not treat it as any sort of justification |
| 17:27.58 | Imperios | For oneself at least |
| 17:28.23 | Imperios | It makes one's actions' understandable, though not excusable unless we're talking about hardline autism |
| 17:28.27 | Technobliterator | And it's very hard to sympathise with someone who is autistic when you're not autistic yourself |
| 17:28.31 | Technobliterator | Yep |
| 17:28.52 | Imperios | I personally seek to overcome its negative effects or somehow circumvent them |
| 17:29.03 | Imperios | I mean most of it is within one's power |
| 17:29.40 | Hachiman | It's why I won't have children; as I have autism I have an increased percentage of granting autism to my offspring, and I feel no one should have to live with autism given its effects on people and how varied it is |
| 17:30.02 | Xho | Hachiman Technobliterator: https://soundcloud.com/turkeychickensandwich/space-prog-noodling shup and listen to me being bored |
| 17:30.38 | Xho | I dunno I got some dystopian cyberpunk feel from doing that |
| 17:30.41 | Technobliterator | how long did it take you to come up with this |
| 17:30.45 | Hachiman | Xho: 2djentle |
| 17:30.48 | Imperios | Nah I'll have kids hur |
| 17:30.49 | Technobliterator | I swear you were only working on it like a minute ago |
| 17:30.51 | Technobliterator | 0.0 |
| 17:30.51 | Xho | I was |
| 17:31.04 | Technobliterator | this is nice |
| 17:31.33 | Imperios | I mean sure my paternal bloodline was unstable, but it was also kind of bright |
| 17:32.23 | Imperios | Xho: That does not feel cyberpunk at all |
| 17:32.25 | Hachiman | I have met people who have felt it a responsibility to not have children so that they would not pass on whatever hereditary or potentially disease they have and cause suffering for someone else |
| 17:32.32 | Xho | Imperios: metal then |
| 17:32.37 | Imperios | Metal yes |
| 17:32.48 | Imperios | It has connotations of war |
| 17:33.11 | Imperios | Xho: Wait |
| 17:33.23 | Xho | I only ever usually get inspired when I look at visual art or some sort of medium like that |
| 17:33.27 | Imperios | Why do I have MLP composers in related tracks |
| 17:33.34 | Imperios | exaclibur in particular |
| 17:33.35 | Xho | Because you |
| 17:33.45 | Imperios | I think it relates to your side |
| 17:33.48 | Hachiman | I have Michael Laboufson |
| 17:33.52 | Imperios | 2007excalibur2007 |
| 17:33.54 | Xho | Oh right |
| 17:33.55 | Xho | Yeah |
| 17:33.55 | Hachiman | And some Frederik Thordendal thing |
| 17:34.27 | Imperios | Labeouf is the brony guy yes |
| 17:34.34 | Imperios | He usually does MLP songs remixed with TF2 sounds |
| 17:34.45 | Imperios | Excalibur that is |
| 17:35.02 | Imperios | Technobliterator: TBH I want Trump to win |
| 17:35.13 | Imperios | Just to see what will happen |
| 17:35.19 | Hachiman | That's bait territory right there |
| 17:35.23 | Technobliterator | Well, I don't really want to risk it |
| 17:35.29 | Imperios | Also I want to fight American invaders |
| 17:35.32 | Technobliterator | But I'd laugh if he turned out to be an actually good president |
| 17:36.08 | Hachiman | I have seen people speculate that Trump is acting the way he is throughout his campaign in order to gain the majority and when he is put into power, he will drop the facade |
| 17:36.22 | Imperios | I just want America to feel what it is like to live in our world |
| 17:36.35 | Imperios | Though Sanders will probably do that too |
| 17:36.37 | Hachiman | Are you comparing Trump to Putin? |
| 17:36.48 | Imperios | More like Russian rulers in general |
| 17:36.54 | OluapPlayer | Yeah, fuck people amirite |
| 17:37.21 | Hachiman | To be fair, it's the people that vote him in |
| 17:37.40 | Imperios | But these are not people |
| 17:37.44 | Imperios | These are Americans |
| 17:37.49 | Technobliterator | I think at this point, it's just everyone versus Hillary supporters |
| 17:38.03 | Hachiman | I dunno who would be worse, Hillary or Trump |
| 17:38.05 | Imperios | Technobliterator Hachiman Xho: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBXLfjAVnvA Noone beats our trump though |
| 17:38.10 | Technobliterator | now that Kasich and Cruz are out, and Trump will win, the GOP side are going to come over to vote for Sanders |
| 17:38.14 | Imperios | For us personally? Hillary |
| 17:38.16 | Imperios | The bitch hates us |
| 17:38.19 | OluapPlayer | I detest this mentality of "people must suffer for their ancestors's mistakes" |
| 17:38.21 | OluapPlayer | It's not funny |
| 17:38.43 | Imperios | What do you mean? |
| 17:38.50 | Technobliterator | I hate it too, but to be fair |
| 17:38.52 | Technobliterator | Imp was joking |
| 17:39.09 | Technobliterator | Everything he says is hyperbolic : | |
| 17:39.55 | Imperios | I like Sanders but I do not trust bald Jewish socialists who cannot pronounce the "r" sound |
| 17:40.06 | Imperios | He only needs a bronevik |
| 17:40.24 | Imperios | Well |
| 17:40.28 | Imperios | Arumoured care |
| 17:40.36 | Hachiman | I actually came across an interesting topic earlier regarding politicians |
| 17:40.52 | Imperios | Whatever that thing Lenin used to make speeches is called in your places |
| 17:41.02 | Hachiman | It essentially boiled down to being a good person =/= being a good politician |
| 17:41.17 | OluapPlayer | Regardless IRC is definitely not interesting today |
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| 17:41.42 | Imperios | But yeah this guy is an American Lenin |
| 17:42.01 | Imperios | Like Lenin was cool but still kind of shifty |
| 17:42.07 | Imperios | Technobliterator: http://s6.pikabu.ru/post_img/big/2014/03/22/6/1395478711_49445503.png And speaking of Lenin |
| 17:42.27 | Technobliterator | hahahaha |
| 17:42.47 | Technobliterator | also, that topic is false |
| 17:43.02 | Technobliterator | Bernie is an undeniably good person, and has the highest favourability rating of any Senator in the US |
| 17:43.26 | Technobliterator | I am of the opinion that, if the election had been fair, he would've basically crushed Hillary already, but it wasn't |
| 17:43.38 | Hachiman | I feel it has some grain of truth historically |
| 17:44.05 | Technobliterator | Most of the ones who have been remembered haven't been that shady |
| 17:45.21 | Xho | Hachiman: wait hold on college days |
| 17:45.32 | Xho | Not 5 days a week then I take it |
| 17:45.40 | Hachiman | Wednesday through Friday |
| 17:46.14 | Imperios | Speaking of America |
| 17:46.32 | Imperios | So I watched both Thor movies and the first Iron Man |
| 17:46.39 | Xho | four |
| 17:47.00 | Imperios | So now I watched every single Marvel movie save for Hulk and the next two Iron Mans |
| 17:47.01 | Imperios | Men |
| 17:47.12 | Imperios | Thing is I am not sure if they are worth watching |
| 17:47.26 | Hachiman | Iron Man 3 is supposed to be decent |
| 17:47.33 | Imperios | I only watched elements but Mandarin's speeches are fucking awesome |
| 17:47.49 | Hachiman | And I'd give Hulk a watch because I personally like Edward Norton |
| 17:47.49 | Imperios | I shall now say the word "America" the same way |
| 17:48.02 | Imperios | Ah-MERRRRRica |
| 17:49.15 | Technobliterator | Why would you watch both Thor movies ._. |
| 17:49.17 | Technobliterator | neither are really memorable |
| 17:49.47 | Imperios | Loki was kind of cool |
| 17:49.53 | Imperios | The world itself was interesting |
| 17:49.58 | Xho | Loki is the best villain in the MCU hands down |
| 17:50.00 | Imperios | The second one is just weird |
| 17:50.06 | Imperios | Xho: Well he is like their only interesting villain |
| 17:50.07 | Xho | I mean the rest are either all dead or insignificant |
| 17:50.09 | Xho | c |
| 17:50.18 | Imperios | Ultron was interesting but there was not enough of him |
| 17:50.31 | Xho | Ultron was overrated |
| 17:50.31 | Imperios | And he was a bit too quickly introduced |
| 17:50.38 | Imperios | He is that kind of villain which needed to be developed over time |
| 17:50.53 | Imperios | Hell they should have made him developed over phase 2 |
| 17:51.06 | Imperios | Like we see a little bit of him in Civil War |
| 17:51.08 | Imperios | wait no |
| 17:51.09 | Hachiman | Well, that's the thing; Ultron's part in the comics is quite small by comparison to the rest of the Civil War |
| 17:51.10 | Imperios | I mean Witner Soldier |
| 17:51.17 | Imperios | Wait |
| 17:51.25 | Imperios | Is Age of Ultron even based on any particular comic |
| 17:51.28 | Xho | Winter Soldier and Civil War are in the top 5 best films of the MCU |
| 17:51.32 | Hachiman | I think so |
| 17:51.54 | Xho | I'd say Civil War is either #2 or #1 |
| 17:52.05 | Monet | There is an Age of Ultron arc. |
| 17:53.11 | Technobliterator | I really want to watch Civil War |
| 17:53.18 | Technobliterator | but it'll be a week and a bit |
| 17:53.49 | Xho | I'd say the best film in the MCU goes either to Civil War, Avengers 1, Guardians of the Galaxy or Winter Soldier |
| 17:54.10 | Imperios | The only weird thing was the whole "IT WAS THE HYDRA ALL ALONG" twist |
| 17:54.15 | Imperios | In Winter Soldier that is |
| 17:54.23 | Xho | HAIL HYDRA |
| 17:54.59 | Hachiman | ... Isn't Hydra G.I. Joe? |
| 17:55.48 | Hachiman | Like correct me if I am wrong because I always get really confused |
| 17:55.54 | Ghel | That's Cobra. |
| 17:56.11 | Hachiman | Ah |
| 17:58.45 | Xho | Speaking of mythological animals I wanted to make the Scylla in the Fantasyvetse |
| 17:58.50 | Xho | Fantasyverse even |
| 17:59.49 | Xho | That is one fucked up creature |
| 18:01.48 | Xho | Probably too hard to do in Spore |
| 18:02.26 | Xho | Charybdis on the other hand, easy enough |
| 18:02.33 | Hachiman | Isn't it a whirlpool? |
| 18:02.33 | Imperios | Wasn't Scylla a woman |
| 18:02.35 | Imperios | At some point |
| 18:02.48 | Hachiman | You could make Scylla a sea witch |
| 18:02.50 | Hachiman | Wait |
| 18:03.10 | Xho | Charybdis is a whirlpool yeah |
| 18:03.26 | Xho | Scylla on the other hand was a woman with tentacles for the lower body and many snapping dog heads at her waist |
| 18:03.27 | Hachiman | As far as I know, Scylla was a giant monster thing |
| 18:04.21 | Imperios | >woman with tentacles |
| 18:04.53 | Xho | dunt u dare |
| 18:05.10 | Ghel | I assume it's the snapping dog heads that would make it so difficult in Spore? |
| 18:05.56 | Xho | yup |
| 18:06.44 | Ghel | And, of course, you can't avoid making them, otherwise you just have a squid-woman. |
| 18:07.21 | Hachiman | Could just give her one dog head |
| 18:07.21 | Imperios | Hachiman: I've been thinking of changing Vila appearance to make them less... dark |
| 18:07.42 | Hachiman | Imperios: Dark suits them |
| 18:07.46 | Imperios | Like they look like drow |
| 18:08.03 | Xho | Hm |
| 18:08.08 | Xho | Nah I'll leave it |
| 18:08.16 | Hachiman | Xho: https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13174094_1008543539223512_124104197629820256_n.jpg?oh=93601d32441c27eebe3f4212ee18bc6c&oe=579DE4E7 "Pink Guy is up to no good!!" |
| 18:08.22 | Xho | oh no |
| 18:08.28 | Xho | b0ss is back |
| 18:09.27 | Hachiman | Oh God, imagine if that "Hey Paul!" scene was replaced with Pink Guy |
| 18:09.30 | Hachiman | "ey b0ss!" |
| 18:09.40 | Imperios | http://66.media.tumblr.com/a6a1228b27dfcd616397b71b45a27b23/tumblr_o6aacxXa0O1v9nihzo1_250.gif God I love that woman |
| 18:09.51 | Hachiman | Imperios: Trigglypuff |
| 18:10.34 | Imperios | TBH I'd stay away from her |
| 18:10.46 | Imperios | She'll probably hook and then dismember me |
| 18:10.51 | Hachiman | I like how she advocates for not treating radical feminists and the rest like children via flailing her arms around and screaming |
| 18:11.01 | Imperios | Especially if he has Aghanim then she'll even heal from that |
| 18:11.17 | Imperios | Not to mention her rot |
| 18:11.27 | Xho | Hachiman: "TRY GETTING RESERVATIONS AT THE RICE FIELDS NOW, MOTHERFUCKER" |
| 18:11.30 | Imperios | I would avoid feeding the ganker |
| 18:16.37 | Xho | Hm what to do |
| 18:17.26 | Xho | I had to find out what she was saying in that video |
| 18:17.35 | Hachiman | Could do another Greek monster |
| 18:17.43 | Xho | Turns out she's repeating "KEEP YOUR HATE SPEECH OFF THIS CAMPUS" |
| 18:17.59 | Xho | Greek monsters hm |
| 18:18.05 | Xho | Well Oluap's done like 80% of them |
| 18:19.03 | Xho | "Laestrygonians" |
| 18:19.09 | Xho | Basically just giant Néva |
| 18:19.16 | Xho | So Skaurovrn |
| 18:19.19 | Xho | Skaurovirn even |
| 18:19.40 | Xho | But no all of the Greek monsters appear to have been done |
| 18:20.16 | Xho | Wait we haven't done ichthyocentaurs |
| 18:21.34 | Ghel | We don't have most kinds of centaurs besides the standard ones, do we? |
| 18:21.42 | Xho | Don't think s |
| 18:21.43 | Xho | so |
| 18:21.48 | Hachiman | Still gotta find a way to incorporate harpies |
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| 18:22.11 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 18:22.24 | Ghel | Hello. |
| 18:23.09 | Xho | I did want to do some sea monster-like creature for Dalmiric wildlife |
| 18:23.18 | Ghel | You could just do Scylla's necks/arms/tentacles/whatever, since the rest of her is hidden in a rock. |
| 18:23.36 | Xho | I had the idea that because of Talmyr's dark atmosphere most of their creatures grew large |
| 18:23.58 | Xho | Although it's hard to think of wildlife for Talmyr |
| 18:24.04 | Hachiman | Imperios: Imagine if there was a Fantasyverse equivalent to the Holy Grail |
| 18:24.04 | Xho | Arctic creatures I guess |
| 18:24.10 | Imperios | Ciykd be |
| 18:24.14 | Imperios | Could be even |
| 18:24.27 | Xho | chalice of havoc Caligaduro is God |
| 18:24.51 | Xho | So looking at arctic animals |
| 18:24.52 | Xho | Wolverines |
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| 18:25.16 | Hachiman | Wolverine barbarians sound badass |
| 18:25.22 | Ghel | Narwhals are basically marine arctic unicorns, so that's appropriate for fantasy. |
| 18:25.52 | Xho | Dalmiric Narwhal |
| 18:25.55 | Xho | sounds evil |
| 18:26.17 | Xho | Hachiman: Wolverine theriocephali sound like some demented cousin of the Korhusn |
| 18:26.52 | Hachiman | Smaller but more hostile and possibly more dangerous |
| 18:27.06 | Hachiman | Nothing would compare to honey badger beastfolk though |
| 18:27.43 | Xho | That would be a real "WELCOME TO THE ICE FIELDS MOTHERFUCKER" moment |
| 18:28.59 | Xho | Conservation status: "least concern" |
| 18:29.01 | Xho | >least concern |
| 18:30.08 | Xho | Wolverines are literal dog-bears |
| 18:30.50 | Hachiman | Yep |
| 18:32.54 | Hachiman | Elephant seal beastfolk would be horrifying |
| 18:33.51 | Xho | Arfs |
| 18:34.01 | Hachiman | Not arf, more like |
| 18:34.03 | Hachiman | HORK |
| 18:36.36 | Xho | Needs Dalmiric giant lungshark |
| 18:36.52 | Xho | BECAUSE WHY HAVE A NORMAL ONE WHEN YOU CAN HAVE A GIANT DALMIRIC ONE |
| 18:37.16 | Hachiman | hur |
| 18:37.56 | Hachiman | I can imagine elephant seal beastfolk being a northern equivalent of trolls / ogres |
| 18:38.08 | Xho | dear lord |
| 18:38.14 | Xho | I dunno how to make a seal on Spore so |
| 18:38.17 | Xho | Feel free to do that yourself |
| 19:10.49 | Imperios | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Dynasty That vandalism |
| 19:12.30 | Ghel | Amazingly that's been allowed to stay there for two days, even when other vandalism has been reverted: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kim_Dynasty&type=revision&diff=718326360&oldid=718326033 |
| 19:13.06 | Imperios | No one would dare defy Kim Cthulhu |
| 19:16.02 | Imperios | Hachiman: https://measurelesseons.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/nolivesmatter.jpg |
| 19:16.28 | Hachiman | hur |
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| 19:25.57 | Xho | returns of ups |
| 19:31.34 | Xho | So, there's no Kelodhrosi species in Talmyr |
| 19:32.24 | OluapPlayer | Lindworms |
| 19:32.57 | Xho | rite |
| 19:33.02 | Xho | are they native of Talmyr though |
| 19:33.14 | OluapPlayer | We agreed on it months ago |
| 19:34.27 | Xho | goldfish eher |
| 19:34.28 | Xho | heer |
| 19:36.29 | Xho | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/11/DalmiricLungshark.png/revision/latest?cb=20160504192839 Also, Dalmiric Lungshark because fuck every fisherman ever |
| 19:47.20 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Koldenwelt/Talmyr Well there's a start |
| 19:49.30 | Xho | Still have to make those wolverine-ish people |
| 19:51.41 | Imperios | Xho: https://2ch.hk/po/src/15856539/14623781836210.gif |
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| 20:44.33 | Xho | DED IRC IS DED |
| 20:48.42 | OluapPlayer | Give something to talk about |
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| 20:54.50 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 20:56.44 | Charles_Murray | The irc is dead and we have killed it |
| 20:58.23 | Technobliterator | deeeeeeeeed |
| 21:00.40 | Wormy_ | Lemme guess, political topic? |
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| 21:01.23 | Hachiman | Forgot to reconnect |
| 21:04.15 | TekDroid | DEEEEEEEEATH. |
| 21:26.32 | Xho | Wow I'm having problems with my browser that I haven't seen since 2006 |
| 21:33.58 | Xho | http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/495771087098318916/26A912BEE78F8B506F8A5A9DA3CF275B2422DFD4/ Typical shit from the guards in Oblivion |
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| 21:39.02 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_2Jduxc2P8 Man this is ancient |
| 21:43.44 | Hachiman | ImpyDroid: Fantasyverse Commissars; yay or nay? |
| 21:44.08 | ImpyDroid | for whom |
| 21:44.09 | Xho | SOMETIMES |
| 21:44.29 | Hachiman | I dunno, Empire? |
| 21:46.14 | ImpyDroid | Do not call them actual commissary and I think it could work, perhaps as military chaplains |
| 21:47.06 | Hachiman | What are standard Imperial soldiers anyway? |
| 21:47.11 | Hachiman | I mean, I know we have knights |
| 21:47.24 | Hachiman | But those are like heavy / cavalry |
| 21:47.36 | ImpyDroid | I do not think we have standard *Imperial* soldiers |
| 21:48.23 | ImpyDroid | There are regional militaries and the Grand Monarch kind of just uses them when needed |
| 21:48.38 | ImpyDroid | The actual Imperial soldiers are elites |
| 21:49.04 | ImpyDroid | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:Imperial_Justicar.png?useskin=oasis There they are |
| 21:49.16 | Hachiman | Ah right |
| 21:49.30 | Charles_Murray | Wormy_ Actually no, we were all just commenting on the fact that the IRC was quiet. xD |
| 21:49.47 | Hachiman | What would be the medieval equivalent of a commissar anyway? You mentioned chaplains |
| 21:51.42 | ImpyDroid | Actually wait |
| 21:51.54 | ImpyDroid | Now that I checked there were commissars during the Renaissance |
| 21:52.01 | Hachiman | https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13173874_1589559121334392_7752943914542148351_n.png?oh=9375d5ce2c47951f7558f374e111d70d&oe=57B2EDBC |
| 21:52.09 | ImpyDroid | But they were used for mercenaries as overseers |
| 21:52.13 | ImpyDroid | To maintain their loyality |
| 21:54.43 | ImpyDroid | Chaplains could be used for maintaining the morale of soldiers |
| 21:54.49 | ImpyDroid | Because you know religion and the like |
| 21:54.58 | ImpyDroid | Not sure if they actually fought |
| 21:55.38 | Hachiman | Well, I imagine Mannazian chaplains know how to fight |
| 21:55.51 | Hachiman | Mannazian religion is based around Ahmalhrich after all |
| 21:57.04 | ImpyDroid | Wouldn't they be more like Norse gothar or something |
| 21:57.35 | Hachiman | Norse what now? |
| 21:58.18 | ImpyDroid | As in Norse pagan priests, what with shrines and the like |
| 21:58.23 | Hachiman | Oh right |
| 21:58.29 | ImpyDroid | More a naturale so to speak |
| 21:59.38 | ImpyDroid | Give 'em wolf pelts to wear |
| 21:59.42 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 21:59.48 | ImpyDroid | DIGGANOBS |
| 22:00.07 | Hachiman | I envisioned Mannazian warpriests going into berserker-style rages |
| 22:00.50 | Hachiman | And enhancing their strength with crude potions and whatnot |
| 22:01.42 | ImpyDroid | Could be |
| 22:04.31 | ImpyDroid | Do not forget giant axes |
| 22:04.33 | ImpyDroid | Or flails |
| 22:04.51 | ImpyDroid | Actually no I will take flails and maces for Alhassal |
| 22:05.09 | ImpyDroid | Flail-spinning whirling dervish |
| 22:05.45 | Hachiman | Alhassal also has its own Immortals, doesn't it? |
| 22:06.39 | ImpyDroid | The Immortal Guard |
| 22:06.56 | ImpyDroid | I should write about them but I actually imagine they are mostly redshirts |
| 22:07.16 | Hachiman | How ironicv |
| 22:07.41 | ImpyDroid | Or maybe the Immortal Guard could be reserved for the elite military dunno |
| 22:08.13 | ImpyDroid | The footsoldiers are going to be militia |
| 22:08.22 | ImpyDroid | Equipped with repeating crossbows |
| 22:09.00 | ImpyDroid | Then there will be Immortals, a lot of mounted archers, a lot of cannons |
| 22:09.05 | ImpyDroid | And WAR ELEPHANTS |
| 22:09.19 | Hachiman | As for Mannazia |
| 22:09.20 | Hachiman | Hm |
| 22:09.22 | ImpyDroid | Also some sort of anti-magical monks |
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| 22:15.10 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 22:16.00 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 22:18.55 | Technobliterator | hi random |
| 22:51.30 | Wormy_ | I really am disappointed ad unsatisfied and hate it when sneezes never actually result. |
| 22:52.13 | The_Randomness | lol |
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| 23:30.48 | The_Randomness | Wormy_: I got in contact with this biologist person yesterday, we're going to be working through the evolutionary history of the collab's sentient species sometime soon :D |
| 23:31.57 | Wormy_ | Nice one |
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| 23:32.32 | DrodoEmpire | Hey everyone |
| 23:32.36 | The_Randomness | Hey |
| 23:39.47 | Monet | hello |
