00:00.51 | Monet | Also http://img04.deviantart.net/dd61/i/2014/306/5/d/map_of_the_united_kingdom_of_westeros__modern_got__by_maonsie-d843oti.png the mouth of bay of King's Landing |
00:01.37 | Monet | There's little chance that area wasn't based on the bay of the Thames. |
00:03.36 | DrodoEmpire | test |
00:03.39 | DrodoEmpire | What's this about? |
00:04.10 | Monet | I'm examining how lcosely GoT's Westeros fits the old kingdoms of England |
00:05.03 | DrodoEmpire | Ahh |
00:05.07 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, just had a thought |
00:05.11 | Monet | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/gameofthrones/images/0/0c/House_Tyrell_banner.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110408162416 here's another reason I think The Reach is Mercia |
00:05.25 | Monet | That looks to me like an almsot dead-ringer ot the rose of Lancaster. |
00:05.44 | DrodoEmpire | I always found it interesting that the Combine in HL2 use the USP Match as their sidearm of choice- A pistol designed for target and sport shooting that was discontinued in 1999 |
00:06.04 | DrodoEmpire | True |
00:06.41 | DrodoEmpire | (Though, its perfectly reasonable to say that Valve chose it for how it looked, I mean, the Match *does* have a very unique design) |
00:07.04 | Monet | (It's possible) |
00:07.55 | DrodoEmpire | Logically speaking there's very little justification. :p That being said it wouldn't be the Combine's only odd weapon choice |
00:08.28 | Monet | The Stormlands are possibly Essex |
00:08.45 | Monet | WHich leaves the Vale as East Anglia. |
00:10.29 | Monet | Remind me, what's the history of the Tyrells and the Starks? |
00:11.05 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm? |
00:11.07 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not sure |
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07:40.33 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
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09:37.04 | AdmiralPanda | hi ghel |
09:37.32 | AdmiralPanda | I should not have gotten involved in thinking of early military history :P |
09:37.53 | Ghelae | Hello. Why not? |
09:38.04 | AdmiralPanda | bcus it's all I can think of in downtime |
09:38.17 | Ghelae | The solution is obvious. |
09:38.19 | Ghelae | Join the project. :P |
09:39.56 | Ghelae | Drodo's added some thoughts to it too. |
09:44.00 | AdmiralPanda | what even is the point of the project? |
09:47.18 | Ghelae | The idea is that, since we all have our knowledge and interests in different areas, we can make a more detailed fiction if we work together, and each of us focuses on our specialities, than if we work in the usual SporeWiki style by working on a whole fiction on our own (and thereby glossing over the points we don't care or know about very much). |
09:50.31 | Ghelae | It's a lot less segregated than the description might make it sound; in practice, most people have commented on most topics. |
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10:15.12 | Ghelae | Hello. |
10:15.20 | Xho | Hi |
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10:50.27 | AdmiralPanda | when you haven't played DkS in probably a year but you still Stop the Rock on the first try |
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11:08.13 | Jepardi | Hi |
11:08.19 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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11:13.57 | Xho | It's only 12:13 |
11:14.10 | Xho | one day is too long |
11:15.26 | Xho | That being said I normally wake up between 10:30 and 11:30 |
11:17.01 | Wormydroid | 11:30 till 13:00 is my favourite time to get up. |
11:21.44 | Ghelae | I usually wake up before 9. Today was no exception. |
11:22.15 | Ghelae | The number of times I've ever woken up after 10 is probably less than 10. |
11:32.53 | Xho | I've just read that the Museum of Nation History in New Delhi has been destroyed by a fire |
11:32.59 | Xho | Nation? |
11:33.01 | Xho | Natural |
11:33.06 | Xho | Museum of Natural History |
11:34.23 | Ghelae | National Museum of Natural History, yeah. Its entire collection lost to the flames. |
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11:57.59 | Xho | ups |
11:58.04 | OluapPlayer | spu |
11:58.06 | OluapPlayer | You're on early |
11:58.18 | Xho | Day off work |
11:59.07 | Xho | I decided to remake the Shadow Drake model |
11:59.17 | Xho | Looks...well shadowy |
11:59.57 | OluapPlayer | blak |
12:00.43 | Xho | Technically I'm making Nirvasunur since he's the only visibly encountered Shadow Drake on Koldenwelt |
12:19.01 | Xho | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/a6/ShadowDrake2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20160429121827 |
12:19.32 | OluapPlayer | Looks good |
12:19.32 | Ghelae | Shadowy indeed. |
12:19.36 | OluapPlayer | Bulkier than the last one |
12:20.45 | Xho | Quite a size range |
12:20.51 | Xho | 225 m - 12,000 m |
12:22.04 | OluapPlayer | >12,000 m |
12:22.07 | OluapPlayer | r u havin a giggle |
12:22.13 | Xho | Rakshaseshvara |
12:22.29 | OluapPlayer | That's nearly as big as Tritonomarth |
12:23.20 | Xho | Rakshaseshvara probably wasn't that big when he/it was created |
12:23.25 | Xho | Or just spawned I dunno |
12:23.44 | Xho | But feeding off dark energies for 30,000 years makes gecko stronk |
12:24.19 | Xho | I had an idea earlier about the Dragon Elders or leaders or whatever |
12:24.32 | Xho | Having a list of all the current and past leaders of the True Kelodhres |
12:25.20 | OluapPlayer | Could have but not all of them had unified leaders |
12:25.34 | Xho | Well we can list them as well |
12:28.10 | Xho | There's a Frost Drake elder on the Algid Haven though I'm not so sure on how big he would be |
12:28.30 | Xho | In the 200 - 300 metre range |
12:30.04 | Xho | I doubt he's the original elder though |
12:30.16 | OluapPlayer | 2big4fiction |
12:30.50 | Xho | I'd imagine the old school elders like Nalúnt and Athinyeras could have grown to Rakshaseshvara's size granted they lived the full 30,000 years |
12:31.25 | OluapPlayer | The only dragon "elders" I have are Vixaatus and Favniru |
12:31.54 | OluapPlayer | Fire Drakes never had any leaders beyond Venertimanoth, and Poison Drakes are not sapient |
12:31.56 | Xho | What about Mentiryanth |
12:32.06 | OluapPlayer | Oh yeah her too |
12:32.10 | OluapPlayer | Three leaders then |
12:33.24 | Xho | Nalúnt, Rakshaseshvara, Frost Drake Elder and Blood Drake Elder |
12:33.49 | Xho | Kamilitziqan the Dreadful is apparently the Frost Drake Elder |
12:34.00 | Xho | Don't quite remember coming up with that name |
12:36.15 | OluapPlayer | By Elder do you mean first leader? |
12:36.28 | Xho | First leaders and current leaders |
12:36.34 | OluapPlayer | Right |
12:36.47 | Xho | So Vixaatus, Favinru, Mentiryanth, Nalúnt, Rakshaseshvara, Kamilitziqan, Blood Drake Guy, Márdeirythis... |
12:36.49 | Xho | who else |
12:36.50 | OluapPlayer | Mentiryanth and Favniru are far from being the first of their people |
12:37.05 | OluapPlayer | The Blood Drake page has a name for their leader |
12:37.25 | Xho | So it does |
12:37.28 | Xho | I'm gonna change that |
12:38.20 | OluapPlayer | Arddraigr is the current boss of the Earth Drakes as far as the page says |
12:41.47 | Xho | I wanna use World-Eater for Blood Drake guy but obvious reference is obvious |
12:42.07 | Xho | World-Drinker "hey" - Pelagrios, 33 NA |
12:42.12 | OluapPlayer | hur |
12:48.47 | Xho | Drauzijokunn's now the name for the Blood Drake leader |
12:49.28 | OluapPlayer | blud |
12:50.15 | AdmiralPanda | the question is, does he like corn flakes? |
12:50.32 | Xho | perhaps |
12:50.51 | Xho | CORN FOR THE...BLOOD DRAKE CORN FLAKES GUY |
12:51.08 | AdmiralPanda | it's milk for the khorne flakes dammit XD |
12:51.20 | Xho | I don't world of warhammer |
12:51.37 | Xho | I cannot into 40 kay |
12:51.41 | AdmiralPanda | HOW VERY DARE YOU SIR, comparing Warhammer to that consumer-grade trash |
12:53.00 | Xho | So Drauzijokunn's name comes from the term 'drauzijô' which is Proto-Germanic for 'gore/blood' and 'kunn' which is sort of from 'kuningaz' which means 'king' |
12:53.17 | Xho | So Blood-King |
12:53.44 | OluapPlayer | I see |
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13:17.05 | Xho | So I'm looking at the records of the guy who plays the Mountain in Game of Thrones |
13:17.19 | Xho | He fuckin' lifts for sure |
13:17.32 | Xho | He bench presses 230 kg raw |
13:21.38 | OluapPlayer | stronk |
13:22.32 | Xho | Well currently the third strongest man in the world by strongman sports |
13:24.04 | Wormy_ | Most SporeWiki races - that's my toothpick |
13:24.17 | Xho | Pretty much heh |
13:24.29 | Xho | Kicath aren't very good lifters however |
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13:25.36 | The_Randomness | Hello |
13:25.53 | OluapPlayer | randum |
13:26.08 | Ghelae | Hello. |
13:27.29 | Wormy_ | hi |
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13:57.37 | Xho | "Their expected date of return is: June." nigga wat am i meant to be doing for a month |
13:57.52 | Xho | Hi as well Random |
13:58.07 | The_Randomness | Hey |
13:59.13 | OluapPlayer | This kills the fiction |
13:59.21 | Xho | definitely |
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13:59.33 | OluapPlayer | You could work on those smaller settings you were on about |
13:59.40 | Xho | I was about to say |
13:59.55 | Xho | I guess I could do some post-Eschaton stories to bring them forward whilst current things are DED |
14:00.27 | Xho | There's two things which are collab-able |
14:00.35 | OluapPlayer | wut dis |
14:00.48 | Xho | There's one which is centred around Talmyr and the other around the Néva |
14:00.59 | Xho | The Dalmiric one is much larger than the Néva one though |
14:01.06 | Xho | Would take more than a month to complete |
14:01.06 | OluapPlayer | Earath - more ice i'm out |
14:01.30 | Xho | Earath wears shitloads of furs Mhor - THERE'S SOMETHING VERY WRONG WITH YOU |
14:01.51 | OluapPlayer | Esulus - u eat fish in front of me u cant talk bout wrong |
14:02.05 | Xho | Mhor - hey i didn't create culture |
14:02.18 | Xho | The Néva one is shorter and can probably be done in the space of May and probably the start of June if done slowly |
14:04.10 | OluapPlayer | navi |
14:05.01 | OluapPlayer | For collabs I can use Norrigan for certain |
14:05.51 | Xho | Not sure what characters to use for it |
14:05.56 | Xho | Apart from Riad of course |
14:06.33 | OluapPlayer | Rum-man |
14:06.38 | Xho | Mhor and Esulus probably |
14:06.42 | Xho | Pelagrios, not so sure |
14:06.59 | OluapPlayer | But he's Riad's bff |
14:07.33 | Xho | I guess but as a character he really does not want to go back to the Néva turf |
14:07.44 | OluapPlayer | Fair enough |
14:07.57 | Xho | Extremely, extremely xenophobic as far as turfs go |
14:08.21 | OluapPlayer | Mhor, Esulus and Taihadrae cus they all need screen time |
14:09.11 | Xho | Taihadrae can't since she'll be in Talmyr in a concurrent time frame |
14:09.17 | Xho | Alongside Ndrhtrhryr and possibly Khaadun |
14:09.49 | OluapPlayer | just bear and fish den |
14:11.31 | Xho | Mhor - cold in the east cold in the west motherfuckers |
14:12.37 | Xho | So apart from Norrigan what other characters could be used |
14:12.55 | Xho | If this is happening in 34 NA then Clotho is probably not going to be there |
14:13.14 | OluapPlayer | She isn't, she'll be unavailable for collabs after Eschaton ends |
14:13.32 | OluapPlayer | The Sea Witch will go back home and Earath hates the cold so they're also unavailable |
14:14.22 | Xho | Just Norrigan then |
14:14.40 | OluapPlayer | Geographically closest char I have is Yurthez so it depends on him having a reason to tag along |
14:14.40 | Xho | The only other choice is Madiiraxaven |
14:14.48 | Xho | Or Yurthez |
14:14.58 | OluapPlayer | Madii would not work with them |
14:15.08 | OluapPlayer | She's not protagonist material |
14:15.25 | Xho | Neither is Kaaxhesh or Vultusk but there we go |
14:15.30 | Xho | I might remove Kaaxhesh from Odyssey |
14:15.40 | Xho | Exceptionally difficult character to use |
14:16.15 | OluapPlayer | He'd not fit with the team |
14:16.43 | OluapPlayer | Are you going to invite Hachi to this? |
14:16.46 | Xho | That wasn't bothering me really, Order of the Black Sun characters intentionally don't fit with anything but Kaaxhesh is just hard |
14:16.47 | Xho | Yeah |
14:17.11 | OluapPlayer | Yurthez and Dragostea then |
14:17.32 | OluapPlayer | At least |
14:20.31 | Xho | The main antagonist is quite obviously Bone-Breaker |
14:21.04 | OluapPlayer | boner |
14:21.11 | Xho | Bone-Breaker - |> |
14:22.56 | Xho | I might fill in more characters on the antagonist side to fill out the plot more |
14:24.58 | Xho | Mostly just Bone-Breaker's lieutenants |
14:29.06 | Wormy_ | Also, get a nose > http://imgur.com/gallery/Y2X1gUn |
14:29.08 | Xho | There's another protagonist to come into the story as well though he's been mentioned before |
14:30.04 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/4GchI4l |
14:30.14 | Xho | hih |
14:30.27 | OluapPlayer | who dis |
14:31.45 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/QYe7k03.jpg |
14:32.11 | Xho | A Néva character called Daokusk who's in Pelagrios' Eschaton prologue |
14:33.04 | Xho | In relation to Riad he's betrothed to Riad's cousin |
14:33.57 | Xho | To the Snowfall Tribe he's their prized champion/hunter |
14:34.39 | OluapPlayer | I vaguely recall the name |
14:35.51 | Xho | That prologue's one of my favourite stories |
14:35.56 | Xho | That I've done |
14:36.05 | Xho | Just shows the full idiocy of Pelagrios |
14:38.51 | OluapPlayer | Pelagrios, the drunkard who nearly destroyed the world |
14:39.14 | OluapPlayer | brb |
14:39.16 | Xho | Pelagrios - bada bing, bada boom |
14:43.20 | Xho | So, decided to call this story The Storm Chaser |
14:45.05 | OluapPlayer | riad - com bak heer |
14:46.04 | Xho | Storm - no |
15:01.31 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Storm_Chaser frozen wasteland go |
15:03.59 | OluapPlayer | brr brr land |
15:07.06 | Xho | add ur chars u long legged mac daddy |
15:14.57 | Xho | OluapPlayer: dam u |
15:17.06 | OluapPlayer | shup I'm eating |
15:17.21 | Xho | y u do dis |
15:17.27 | Xho | dum question come to think of it |
15:18.21 | Xho | Might as well make Bone-Breaker's lieutenants |
15:57.59 | Charles_Murray | test |
16:00.45 | AdmiralPanda | you fehl |
16:05.49 | The_Randomness | rip |
16:08.25 | Xho | OluapPlayer: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/3/3e/TiritchiktheDragon.png/revision/latest?cb=20160429160742 Well I made one of them |
16:08.42 | OluapPlayer | the dergon |
16:08.49 | OluapPlayer | A female Neva then |
16:08.55 | Xho | sà |
16:09.15 | Xho | Also as expected a psychopathic pyromancer/electromancer |
16:10.48 | OluapPlayer | I'd not have expected pyromancy in their people |
16:11.00 | Xho | Well that's why she's a no-go zone for many |
16:11.18 | Xho | Combining electromancy and pyromancy she creates a pretty but damn hellish firestorm |
16:11.48 | Xho | Which makes her the most dangerous of Bone-Breaker's lieutenants |
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16:14.45 | Monet | Hello |
16:14.49 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
16:15.07 | Ghelae | Hello. |
16:39.58 | Wormy_ | hi |
16:42.08 | Xho | OluapPlayer: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/8/8f/MaguruktheWolf.png/revision/latest?cb=20160429164131 awoo |
16:42.32 | OluapPlayer | awoo looks scary |
16:43.19 | Xho | Maguruk is probably the least evil of the four |
16:43.41 | OluapPlayer | Norrigan - still evil will apply purging instrument to head |
16:44.32 | Xho | Nanuk and Assrivak now |
16:44.32 | Xho | hm |
16:44.46 | OluapPlayer | nanoot |
16:44.47 | OluapPlayer | NOOT NOOT |
16:45.07 | Xho | Nanuk - BEAR NOT PENGUIN |
16:45.30 | OluapPlayer | Mhor - [triggered] |
16:45.56 | Xho | All of the lieutenant's names are the Inuit translation for what animal their title is |
16:47.10 | Xho | All of their titles imply some worship in Harstag which isn't improbable since the Néva are a northern culture |
16:48.06 | Xho | All of them are kings/queen of their own smaller tribe that are allied to Bone-Breaker as well |
16:48.33 | OluapPlayer | Does Boner-Shreker have an animal title too? |
16:48.39 | OluapPlayer | Also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5grtioqR5M |
16:48.41 | Xho | He would |
16:49.38 | Xho | I guess he'd call himself the Phoenix because megalomania-mode on |
16:50.20 | OluapPlayer | Riad - the turkey |
16:50.35 | Xho | Boner-Breaker - [triggered] |
16:50.43 | Xho | Or perhaps |
16:50.46 | Xho | Break-Boner |
16:51.01 | Xho | That's just brutal in itself |
16:51.15 | OluapPlayer | Pelagrios - thats why im not going |
16:51.24 | AdmiralPanda | especially given the force needed to break erectile tissue |
16:51.30 | AdmiralPanda | pretty messy too |
16:51.56 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Not entirely false, Pelagrios is terrified of Bone-Breaker |
16:52.15 | OluapPlayer | I gathered from his page |
16:52.32 | Xho | Then again who wouldn't be terrified of two metres worth of immortal and probably borderline-demonic cannibalistic elf who wears a rotting bear skull on his head |
16:53.15 | OluapPlayer | Clamak - me |
16:53.27 | Xho | Bone-Breaker - damn southerner can't even see me |
16:53.43 | OluapPlayer | Clamak - all clamak sees is beard and booze |
16:53.50 | Xho | Pelagrios - <3 |
16:54.26 | OluapPlayer | I'd like to use Clamak in more stories |
16:54.28 | OluapPlayer | He's fun to use |
16:55.15 | OluapPlayer | i'd suggest him to the plot but they'd have to go out of their way to find him |
16:55.59 | Xho | Well they are travelling north, Clamak's north of them |
16:56.04 | OluapPlayer | brb |
16:56.20 | OluapPlayer | Clamak lives at the east, not at the north |
16:56.23 | OluapPlayer | brb for real |
17:01.19 | The_Randomness | brb |
17:06.00 | OluapPlayer | Back |
17:08.38 | OluapPlayer | https://twitter.com/mogmognyorori/status/722058597903896576 peep |
17:15.51 | Xho | birb |
17:15.57 | Xho | Well Clamak still lives north of Dar-Nahalant |
17:16.09 | Xho | North-east but still |
17:19.07 | Xho | OluapPlayer: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/5/59/NanuktheBear.png/revision/latest?cb=20160429171804 teddy |
17:19.09 | OluapPlayer | Back in the War of Vampires they did use the tunnels of the Vermin Kingdom as a shortcut to the north, so I guess they could do that and meet him there |
17:19.22 | OluapPlayer | "WHO WANTS A BEAR HUG" |
17:20.15 | Xho | Well you could imagine that Nanuk likes to model himself after a bear |
17:21.00 | Xho | Considering he's seven and a half feet of pure berserk grr |
17:21.25 | Xho | And those claws are actually dragon's claws and not bear claws |
17:22.18 | OluapPlayer | the bear but slightly dragon |
17:24.29 | Xho | Assrivak I'm still struggling to have an idea of |
17:25.36 | OluapPlayer | the spuder |
17:26.42 | Xho | >is an actual spider |
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17:34.31 | DanzaDelMondo | Hi |
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17:34.43 | Quark8 | Hello. |
17:34.58 | DanzaDelMondo | Xho: Can you come to the mass collab please |
17:42.58 | Wormy_away | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFSmu7-KzwQ |
18:14.04 | Xho | OluapPlayer: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/1/1a/Bone-Breaker2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20160429181028 Bone-Breaker just got upgraded to Fuck You Edition |
18:14.32 | OluapPlayer | I was about to complain how ded this place was |
18:14.36 | OluapPlayer | Kalarah - get ur own wardrobe u savage |
18:15.01 | Xho | Bone-Breaker - I did i killed ur men and took it off them |
18:16.05 | OluapPlayer | Kalarah - fukin BLUE PEOPLE |
18:16.53 | Xho | Bone-Breaker - dey call me break-boner 4 reason |
18:18.04 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Storm_Chaser gotta cast fast |
18:18.50 | OluapPlayer | Norrigan King of Eye |
18:19.03 | Xho | praise |
18:19.44 | Xho | King's a loose title though since every tribe mentioned apart from the Snowfall Tribe is a kratocracy |
18:20.15 | OluapPlayer | They can call themselves whatever they want in a kratocracy hur |
18:20.24 | Xho | Bone-Breaker - king yes |
18:20.59 | Xho | "through rites of combat, kill the current king and earn the title of the most respected and feared warrior of their race, and therefore given consensual right to reign over their numbers, additionally consuming the flesh of their previous victories along the way as a sign of dominance and spirituality, such as calling upon the spirit of the deceased to give them greater strength." |
18:21.09 | Xho | That's the general Bone-Shield rite of accession |
18:21.18 | Xho | Not so different from the rest of the tribes |
18:21.32 | Xho | Although cannibalism is usually left out |
18:22.01 | Xho | Cannibalism is usually an act of humiliation in most tribes, to the Bone-Shields its an act of dominance |
18:22.28 | Xho | That being said the Néva might have some natural affinity to blood magic |
18:22.49 | Xho | Devouring the flesh of their enemies is said to make them stronger, which is why Nanuk eats the flesh of bears |
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18:24.07 | OluapPlayer_ | Fuck off IRC |
18:24.41 | OluapPlayer_ | Anyway |
18:24.44 | OluapPlayer_ | Bone-Breaker reminds me of Kebra'Osos because his name is meant to mean "Bone Breaker" too |
18:24.55 | Xho | Bone-Breaker - pls |
18:25.18 | OluapPlayer_ | Kebra'Osos - stoopid |
18:25.24 | OluapPlayer_ | needs moe kebra'osos in eschaton too |
18:25.55 | Xho | Hm |
18:26.08 | Xho | Dunno where he could be thouh |
18:26.54 | OluapPlayer_ | Maybe whenever the Shiarchon go back to the front of the ebul conga |
18:28.02 | OluapPlayer_ | Since that title currently belongs to the Sleepy deemuns |
18:28.53 | Xho | Vanguard - piss off ook face |
18:29.07 | OluapPlayer_ | Kebra'Osos - WAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH |
18:29.10 | Xho | I was making an alternate form for Vanguard earlier but I dunno whether it'll ever be used |
18:29.25 | OluapPlayer_ | Also obligatory Xacutus appearance |
18:29.27 | OluapPlayer_ | show dis |
18:29.51 | Xho | Vanguard just throws Xacutus at Kebra'Osos |
18:30.18 | OluapPlayer_ | Xacutus - i'm somewhat okay with this |
18:33.21 | OluapPlayer_ | "prediction : by 2024, presidential elections will involve candidates saying "don't forget to like and subscribe" after each speech" |
18:38.14 | Xho | oh god |
18:48.13 | Wormy_away | Pop goes the weasel http://phys.org/news/2016-04-weasel-large-hadron-collider.html |
18:49.32 | OluapPlayer | They now need to collide two weasels at extreme velocity |
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18:54.38 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everybody |
18:59.01 | Ghelae | Hello. |
19:00.20 | Xho | OluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHYf-PqmCyY I think I very well might be the Nostalgia Critic |
19:01.00 | OluapPlayer | FAK YU OOOOOOOOO |
19:04.48 | Wormy_away | That is one awkward sounding FU. |
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19:16.45 | Quark8 | Hello. |
19:16.51 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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19:26.38 | DrodoEmpire | test |
19:26.40 | DrodoEmpire | HI |
19:26.42 | DrodoEmpire | *Hi |
19:26.51 | DrodoEmpire | Didn't mean to yell. >: |
19:29.36 | Xho | OluapPlayer: To that reference about Kalarah I actually did model Bone-Breaker's current appearance after Kalarah's first model |
19:29.49 | OluapPlayer | c |
19:36.19 | Xho | Hachi's been dead all day |
19:36.31 | Xho | Heck not even on Steam |
19:37.25 | OluapPlayer | He's not replying on Skype either |
19:37.29 | OluapPlayer | Must be away from home |
19:41.16 | Xho | OluapPlayer: http://uncle-crusty.deviantart.com/art/memes-yay-586779952 Prepare to explode |
19:41.40 | OluapPlayer | blart/10 |
19:48.40 | Xho | Oh yeah I also upped Bone-Breaker's height because why not |
19:48.55 | Xho | Went from 6'7" to 7'3" |
19:50.54 | Xho | Considering most Néva are 4'8" - 5'7" he giganto |
19:51.14 | OluapPlayer | not smol |
19:51.43 | Xho | In other words he's 2.21 metres tall in comparison to the average of about 1.60 m |
19:52.25 | Xho | Nanuk's even taller, probably closer to 2.35 metres |
19:52.51 | Xho | Maguruk and Tiritchik are more average sized |
19:53.25 | Xho | About 1.75 m and 1.62 m respectively |
19:54.41 | Xho | Riad's a little taller at 1.82 m |
19:54.54 | Xho | Daokusk is about 1.93 m |
19:55.22 | OluapPlayer | Everyone is bigger than average |
19:57.42 | Xho | Well the 4'8" - 5'7" range is 1.42 m - 1.70 m |
19:58.29 | Xho | Then again there are humans that go outside the average height as well |
19:58.45 | Xho | Bone-Breaker and Nanuk are considered barbaric though due to their height |
19:58.57 | Xho | Daokusk almost the same as well |
19:59.02 | OluapPlayer | dey barbaric cus dey cannibal tribesmen |
19:59.07 | Xho | That is also true |
19:59.22 | Xho | Bone-Breaker is generally considered someone who makes taboo laws a past time |
20:00.54 | Xho | On the terms of evil savagery as a character he's probably either #2 or #1 on my list |
20:01.13 | Xho | Debatable with Narrasturavaran |
20:01.18 | OluapPlayer | calm the fuk down son |
20:01.51 | Xho | Narrasturavaran and Bone-Breaker are almost the same character come to think of it |
20:01.55 | Xho | Just that one's taller than the other |
20:02.50 | Xho | Julianus probably settles underneath them at #3 |
20:03.13 | Monet | I think I'm slightly above average. |
20:03.15 | Xho | They're all elves as well hoh |
20:03.16 | OluapPlayer | Norrigan - purged status = 2/3 |
20:03.29 | Monet | Last I checked I was 6ft 2. |
20:03.37 | Xho | giganto mann |
20:03.48 | Xho | I'm just on the threshold of 6ft |
20:04.04 | Xho | Or 1.83 m for METRIC PEASANTS |
20:04.10 | OluapPlayer | I don't seem to really have any savage evil characters |
20:04.17 | OluapPlayer | Unless you count Kebra'Osos as savage |
20:04.20 | Xho | ook |
20:04.32 | OluapPlayer | But he doesn't really do a lot of evil |
20:04.55 | Xho | I should really do Narrasturavaran's page, but spoilers off the charts |
20:05.07 | Xho | Nothing unpredictable though |
20:05.35 | OluapPlayer | Most savagery he does is smash people with a giant club and cook them |
20:05.39 | Monet | I've owrked out I might be slightly tall due to my mother's side. |
20:05.54 | Xho | Bone-Breaker - welcome to the club boyo |
20:06.05 | OluapPlayer | Kebra'Osos - fukin deiwos meat |
20:06.07 | Xho | Monet: I'm taller than both my mother and father so I dunno where it comes from |
20:06.09 | Monet | afaict I have Dutch ancestry. |
20:06.20 | Monet | Well not ancestry. |
20:06.26 | Xho | I think it's my mother's side since we have had ancestors who were well above 6ft |
20:06.31 | OluapPlayer | He's a reptile-man so him eating humanoids is not as weird as humanoids eating each other |
20:06.33 | OluapPlayer | Arguably |
20:06.43 | Xho | Bone-Breaker - meh |
20:07.08 | Monet | Then again I have an uncle on my father's side who is like 6ft 5 or something. |
20:07.23 | OluapPlayer | Khor is probably not a nice place to frequent |
20:07.38 | Xho | My cousin on my dad's side is 6ft 3 but that's definitely from his father and not my aunt |
20:07.43 | OluapPlayer | Inhabited by giant angry lizard-ogres, constantly under attack by giant angry goblins |
20:08.06 | Xho | I don't think Abyssus is nice in general hur |
20:08.18 | OluapPlayer | Well of course, but still |
20:08.31 | OluapPlayer | I don't imagine a lot of Legion races go there unless they have a reason |
20:08.37 | Xho | Not really no |
20:08.48 | Xho | Maximilianus is probably the only Shiarchon they see with any frequency |
20:09.08 | OluapPlayer | Maximilianus - news from the capital no one likes this place Kebra'Osos - GOOD |
20:09.18 | Xho | I dunno whether to reveal spoilers by doing Narrasturavaran's page or wait |
20:09.32 | OluapPlayer | You could just make the page and not include the spoilers |
20:09.44 | Xho | Hm |
20:10.16 | Xho | I could do the spoilers and save me doing a story |
20:10.21 | Xho | Or the other way round |
20:11.54 | OluapPlayer | brb |
20:20.06 | OluapPlayer | haw |
20:23.09 | Xho | wah |
20:24.41 | OluapPlayer | Not sure what to do now |
20:24.43 | Xho | Why can I never spell Narrasturvaran's name correctly |
20:24.48 | Xho | finish paegs |
20:25.11 | Xho | Or make paegs |
20:25.12 | OluapPlayer | ma paegs r finished tho |
20:25.20 | Xho | Well you've got the other DV students |
20:25.49 | OluapPlayer | Only other student I control is Heilen, and I don't see the need for a page for him |
20:26.00 | OluapPlayer | I made a page for Szalvetha because I took a liking for her |
20:29.58 | Xho | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/c/c7/Narrasturvaran2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20160429202920 spiky mann |
20:30.51 | OluapPlayer | get food poisoning |
20:31.08 | Xho | dat makes no sense |
20:31.45 | Xho | Gonna have to see what characters have come across him to get a top quote |
20:32.02 | OluapPlayer | Wasn't he the one that got poisoned that one time? |
20:32.15 | Xho | Ah yeah |
20:32.19 | Xho | And then got stabbed and clubbed |
20:33.09 | Xho | I think I mentioned that Narrasturvaran was taken back to the Skaurovirni Domain and was reanimated |
20:33.17 | Xho | Marginally more soulless than before |
20:33.24 | Xho | Not the first time he's been killed either |
20:34.04 | OluapPlayer | You might have |
20:34.10 | Xho | Hachi - T-They have swords! A-And the big guy has a mace! Norrigan - So do I! Praise Isiris! |
20:34.14 | Xho | 10/10 praise it |
20:34.27 | OluapPlayer | hur |
20:35.30 | OluapPlayer | Khadya - ... Fine. You owe me a head, however. Sea Witch - You owe us not walking around in your underwear all damn day, you thing. |
20:35.36 | OluapPlayer | fuk u elf |
20:37.16 | Xho | "Angry dragon magic." - Primordial Darkness in a nutshell |
20:37.25 | OluapPlayer | lel |
20:42.49 | Xho | Varelos - I am old and very rich. Zat means yes, I have all sorts of drinks. Pelagrios - Oh, good. I was scared that this trip up north was going to kill me before I even got to the Void Fortress. |
20:43.11 | OluapPlayer | Sea Witch - In any case, we blame Pelagrios. Pelagrios - Me too. |
20:43.39 | Xho | Nihilist Pelagros |
20:43.41 | Xho | Pelagrios* |
20:44.14 | OluapPlayer | Pelagrios - world's gonna die and nothing has any meaning except rum, rum is good |
20:44.39 | Xho | Riad - my bff, everybody |
20:47.28 | Xho | Pelagrios' - I'm going to die I'm going to die I'M GOING TO DIE -- Sea Witch - I'm going to die I'm going to die I'm-- Alhazred - Shut up, both of you! |
20:48.39 | Xho | Kanna - Seppuku sounds like a reasonable idea. Sea Witch - Isn't that some sort of game? Kanna - That's sudoku. Both are equally painful. |
20:48.41 | Xho | Oh dear |
20:49.39 | OluapPlayer | hur |
20:50.33 | OluapPlayer | Maras - And Clotholaire and Kinmorunddraver were present. I was always jealous of that phoenix and her hat. |
20:50.35 | OluapPlayer | Maras's priorities |
20:50.48 | Xho | Esulus - my ancestor, everybody |
20:51.25 | OluapPlayer | Maras - talk to me when u blow up a void fortress |
20:51.36 | Xho | Esulus - i ain't got no storm magic tho |
20:51.59 | Xho | Alfgund - Hmph! How egotistical! You shan't see humans boasting of their ego in such a demeaning and insulting manner! Longinus - Apologies, '''brave and stalwart''' Alfgund Stonesoul of Mannazia. |
20:52.45 | OluapPlayer | [shots fired] |
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20:53.23 | ImpyDroid | Watching Thor made me realise |
20:53.53 | ImpyDroid | Marvel has both a more conventional space civilisation shown in Guardians of the Galaxy |
20:54.10 | ImpyDroid | As well as the space fantasy worlds seen in Thor movies |
20:54.16 | ImpyDroid | They are also known to interact |
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20:54.32 | OluapPlayer | Alhazred - Zran Kar's records say Nalúnt would be... a little more than twice the size of Nazuir. Kanna - On the bright side, that is better than being three times the size of Nazuir. |
20:54.40 | ImpyDroid | I wonder what Novans think of Asgardians |
20:56.47 | Xho | gee kanna thanks |
20:56.55 | Xho | ImpyDroid: Probably not aware |
20:57.06 | ImpyDroid | Well there was that Collector person |
20:57.16 | Xho | Collector isn't Xandarian though |
20:57.25 | Xho | He's like some super old borderline demigod being |
20:57.39 | ImpyDroid | He appeared in both verses so there is probably some connections between them |
20:57.43 | ImpyDroid | Not to mention Thanos |
20:57.49 | ImpyDroid | And his bros |
20:57.56 | Xho | Pelagrios - N-not ready to rumble today... Sea Witch - Damnit, Pelagrios. This is all your fault. |
20:58.15 | OluapPlayer | Eschaton in a nutshell |
21:00.23 | Xho | Hachi - I'm just gonna shut up and keep my mouth closed. Kanna - Well that's a first. |
21:01.15 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Narrasturvaran Meh I'll do it later |
21:01.23 | ImpyDroid | Where is all that from hur |
21:01.48 | OluapPlayer | Primordial Darkness |
21:02.03 | Xho | That had quite a lot of good moments |
21:02.28 | Xho | My favourite story so far is Fall of Talmyr though |
21:02.33 | OluapPlayer | Unfortunately One Thousand Horns didn't end up as good |
21:02.45 | OluapPlayer | The fight with Atrocius was probably the only really good part of it |
21:02.53 | ImpyDroid | One thousand diks |
21:03.01 | Xho | Hamoins - pls |
21:04.14 | OluapPlayer | The whole Underworld arc was really bad |
21:04.24 | OluapPlayer | Only good part of it was X'impe, actually |
21:04.29 | Xho | I liked Charon |
21:04.42 | Xho | General - Mhor Shima would be the closest. Though he isn't here. Sea Witch - A shame. I know the guy. He could talk the Shiarchon to death about how much he likes fish. |
21:04.46 | Xho | Mhor - bit rude |
21:05.44 | Xho | Hachi - ... Hmph, perfect. Strategies against the Lagosi: hit me once and I'm likely to die. ... If he hits me. Longinus - Indeed. Do not get hit. |
21:05.53 | Xho | Longinus: Giving great advice since 10,000 BNA |
21:06.05 | OluapPlayer | git gud |
21:07.33 | ImpyDroid | Also |
21:08.06 | ImpyDroid | If Lori is an ymir why doesn't he have the usual ymir ice powers |
21:08.46 | Xho | He does |
21:08.49 | Xho | Didn't you see Thor |
21:08.56 | OluapPlayer | Also that Nalash coin has been through a lot. Shown to the Repossessor guy, shown to the Néva, shown to Charon |
21:09.04 | OluapPlayer | Except Charon took it and didn't give it back |
21:09.10 | Xho | Nalashtannylor - yoink |
21:09.10 | ImpyDroid | I am only starting to watch it |
21:09.14 | ImpyDroid | Wait not an ymir |
21:09.16 | ImpyDroid | A jotun |
21:09.56 | Xho | Nalashtannylor's coin's useful in the fact that it's a symbolism of aid towards Nalashtannylor's allies and demons that aren't Nalashtannylor's enemies |
21:10.04 | Xho | Gets one in places one normally can't |
21:10.41 | Xho | I guess Nalashtannylor would have manifested it out of Charon's hands afterwards or perhaps created another one |
21:10.57 | OluapPlayer | Charon - THIEF |
21:11.31 | Xho | Bounty: 5 gold |
21:11.45 | OluapPlayer | Charon - STOP. YOU VIOLATED THE LAW. |
21:11.59 | ImpyDroid | Nalashtannylor is CRIMINAL SCUM |
21:12.33 | Xho | Nalashtannylor - resist arrest come at me scrubs |
21:12.54 | OluapPlayer | Level 70 skeleton |
21:13.48 | Xho | Nalashtannylor - pc+1 y u do dis |
21:13.59 | Xho | Actually Hamoins would be PC+1 i |
21:14.13 | OluapPlayer | PC+1 |
21:14.14 | OluapPlayer | wut now |
21:14.55 | Xho | Level 70 Skelteon is level PC+1 |
21:14.59 | Xho | Hamoins is PC |
21:15.03 | Xho | therefore Hamoins is Level 69 |
21:15.05 | Xho | top kek |
21:15.26 | Xho | skeleton even |
21:15.29 | OluapPlayer | Hamoins - ey boy wanna see my draugr |
21:16.24 | Xho | Longinus - They should get along just fine then. I speak sarcastically. Sea Witch - Yeah yeah. We can help you improve your jokes after doomsday is over. |
21:16.27 | Xho | Longinus - :c |
21:16.45 | OluapPlayer | Wow hur |
21:18.27 | Xho | Longinus - I never thought I would say it, but praise Isiris for this encounter. Norrigan - Praise Isiris! Longinus - [small] Agh. It feels like I almost committed apostasy there. |
21:19.12 | OluapPlayer | Soldalatel - how coud u i cri |
21:20.14 | Xho | Longinus - https://youtu.be/ee925OTFBCA?t=15s |
21:20.34 | OluapPlayer | olol |
21:22.14 | OluapPlayer | Hachi - ... Perhaps Clotho would be willing to finish today in a "productive" way, if she catches my meaning? Lots of "activity" to be done to make for a good finish, eh? Lorchakim - I would rather not have heard that. Lyra - Ew, kid. Even Lorchakim thinks you're a weirdo. |
21:22.33 | Xho | 0/10 2perv |
21:23.26 | OluapPlayer | ImpyDroid: So are you unavailable for fiction for the rest of the month then? |
21:24.15 | ImpyDroid | Nah I can do it |
21:24.33 | OluapPlayer | Okay good |
21:24.37 | ImpyDroid | Not sure about June though |
21:24.37 | Xho | Hachi - Ngh, this really isn't my forte. ... Kanna, can you attack him with ice-- Kanna - AAAAAAAH! ... AAAAAAH AAAAAH! AAAAAAAAAAH! Hachi - ... Crap. |
21:24.59 | OluapPlayer | Yes your page says you're gone until June |
21:25.11 | OluapPlayer | So I was wondering whether that'd mean we'd be stuck during all of May |
21:26.12 | OluapPlayer | Hachi - You've ran out of drink? Pelagrios - Don't be silly. |
21:27.28 | Xho | Pelagrios - how haram |
21:28.54 | OluapPlayer | Sea Witch - Just as long as Hachi or Pelagrios don't vomit on me, I'm game. Pelagrios - I cannot guarantee that will not happen. Primarily because of who I am as a person. |
21:29.08 | Xho | Ndrhthryr - has happened before would not recommend |
21:29.22 | Xho | Janos - You. You have something I require. Earath - Pelagrios, watch out. Pelagrios - Who, me? Nope. Want a bottle of rum? Pelagrios looked at the bottle. Pelagrios - ...Half drunken bottle of rum? |
21:29.35 | ImpyDroid | BTW where is Hachi |
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21:29.48 | ImpyDroid | He has been gone all day |
21:30.09 | ImpyDroid | *absent |
21:30.10 | OluapPlayer | We don't know |
21:30.32 | OluapPlayer | No sight of him here, Steam or Skype all day |
21:31.12 | OluapPlayer | >meet personification of the Adversary >offers it rum |
21:32.53 | ImpyDroid | God the Thor dub is weird |
21:33.04 | ImpyDroid | Thor's voice is cool but |
21:33.10 | ImpyDroid | Odin is referred to as a "tsar" |
21:34.40 | OluapPlayer | Xacutus - ME! The great Xacutus! Anyone order a dose of ARSON with a few drops of SCREAMS of TERROR? |
21:35.27 | Xho | Kalarah - the shit I had to put up with |
21:36.07 | OluapPlayer | Xacutus - so unfun |
21:36.36 | OluapPlayer | Xacutus - I'll pretend all you said is important. You CAN come up with pretty-worded speeches at least. |
21:47.03 | Technobliterator | Did he hint at any reason beforehand that he may be away? |
21:47.15 | Xho | Work of some sort |
21:47.16 | OluapPlayer | Nope |
21:47.36 | Technobliterator | I haven't seen him for a while |
21:47.49 | OluapPlayer | He's not been online today period |
21:50.26 | Technobliterator | I haven't for several days |
21:52.17 | OluapPlayer | We can't tell considering you're online 24/7 |
21:54.20 | Technobliterator | no, I mean |
21:54.25 | Technobliterator | I haven't seen him for several days |
21:55.02 | OluapPlayer | Oh |
21:55.08 | OluapPlayer | I assume we're talking about Hachi here |
21:55.41 | Technobliterator | yeah |
21:55.50 | OluapPlayer | git glasses |
21:56.01 | OluapPlayer | He's been online every day until yesterday |
21:56.06 | Technobliterator | maybe he was here and I just missed him? I've been busy with coursework this week |
21:56.12 | Technobliterator | luckily, it's finished now |
21:56.14 | Technobliterator | :D |
21:57.12 | OluapPlayer | gud now go work on reckoning |
21:57.43 | Technobliterator | dats da plan |
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22:26.27 | DrodoEmpire | test |
22:30.39 | OluapPlayer | u failed |
22:33.04 | DrodoEmpire | >: |
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22:39.59 | ImpyDroid | Okay so I watched Thor and... no I did not see Loki using ice magic |
22:41.30 | Monet | He never has |
22:41.46 | Monet | Wel lexcept for that one time |
22:43.02 | ImpyDroid | Yes but he used that box thing |
22:43.32 | ImpyDroid | I thought it was the Tesseract at first |
22:43.55 | Technobliterator | despite Thor being an awesome character, his films are pretty lame |
22:43.59 | Monet | The Casket of Ancient Winters. |
22:44.27 | Monet | Real artifact btw. |
22:45.24 | ImpyDroid | I dunno the non-Earth parts I really liked |
22:45.28 | Monet | IMO the original film was good, possibly great. Thor 2 was a bit meh. |
22:45.33 | ImpyDroid | Probably just preference |
22:45.48 | ImpyDroid | It has more character development than usual for Marvel |
22:46.31 | Monet | Marvel stories involve a lot of punching. |
22:47.26 | Monet | I'd argue the Civil War and Avengers vs X-Men comics could have been better if the characters weren't os obsessed with beating the crap out of each other. |
22:47.55 | ImpyDroid | Well this is comics |
22:48.15 | Monet | Yes but this isn't the 1970s |
22:48.44 | Monet | We can handle deeper stories than epic fights, surely. |
22:49.27 | Monet | I mean in AvX Tony Stark builds a gun that *shaters the Phoenix Force. |
22:49.57 | Monet | *shatters* the Phoenix Force* |
22:50.26 | Monet | It has the suped-up X Men tell the United Nations "do not interfere with our desires or we will end you" |
22:54.57 | Monet | Then again I guess there would be less conflict had Cyclops not made himself leader of all mutantkind. |
22:56.04 | Monet | And he learns in the end that in his attempts ot protect his daughter from the outside, he'd turned her home into a prison. |
22:56.07 | ImpyDroid | Monet: So I found a theory that Luke and Leia actually went beyond making out and that Kylo is in fact Luke's child |
22:56.37 | ImpyDroid | His condition resulted from inbreeding further magnifying the typical Skywalker traits |
22:57.28 | Monet | Preeety sure that moment she kissed luke on Hoth in V she was just trying to annoy Han. |
23:00.26 | Monet | Anyway, if it's a theory, what's the evidence ot support the theory. |
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23:02.04 | Monet | Kylo's strangth could be chance - Disney Canon iirc has Anakin as a virgin birth, rather than a boy made by Plagueis' control over midichlorians. |
23:02.29 | ZF101 | Hello all. |
23:02.33 | Monet | hi |
23:12.28 | Xho | http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/FN-2199 |
23:14.14 | Technobliterator | Yeah, the whole virgin birth thing was one of the stupidest things Lucas ever did. He was such a prat. |
23:14.28 | OluapPlayer | Oh god |
23:14.30 | OluapPlayer | 53 goblins |
23:14.40 | OluapPlayer | and 14 trolls |
23:15.56 | Monet | Technobliterator: I'd say it's up there with aliens in INdiana Jones. |
23:16.07 | Technobliterator | ugh, yeah |
23:16.26 | Xho | Virginal conception isn't as bad as Gungans |
23:16.33 | Technobliterator | still needs to rewatch the original Indiana Jones trilogy |
23:17.08 | Xho | kali ma |
23:17.12 | Technobliterator | I'd argue it's worse. The Gungans you can at least ignore once the prequels are over. Stupid things like midichlorians and Anakin's virgin birth infest the entire Star Wars canon everywhere. ._. |
23:17.33 | Xho | Midichlorians are dreadful |
23:17.50 | Technobliterator | they were such a stupid idea |
23:17.50 | Xho | Not so bad with Anakin's virgin birth, I mean he was a prophetic character |
23:18.10 | Xho | Did bring balance to the Force by wiping out the Jedi and the Sith but still |
23:18.17 | Monet | I like science in my science fiction, but I despite it when my science involves weapons-grade bullshittium. |
23:19.12 | Technobliterator | Star Wars is much better as a science fantasy than a science fiction, if you ask me |
23:19.21 | DrodoEmpire | I consider it science fantasy really |
23:19.30 | Technobliterator | Like, once you have sounds that can be heard in space, it's really no longer scientific |
23:19.40 | Xho | And the Force |
23:19.59 | Technobliterator | also, in Episode V, all they need is a breathing suit and they can suddenly walk around inside an asteroid creature's stomach just fine |
23:20.02 | Monet | echnobliterator: I've come ot accept that as more of a cinematic choice than one basedo n science. |
23:20.03 | Technobliterator | also, an asteroid creature, period |
23:20.15 | Technobliterator | inb4 Ghelae or Wormy_ come up with an explanation for all of those things |
23:20.19 | DrodoEmpire | I sorta like the idea of having historical themes in my sci-fi or fantasy |
23:20.22 | Technobliterator | oh, and everything in Episode VII |
23:20.30 | Technobliterator | just completely and utterly did away with science |
23:20.30 | DrodoEmpire | (As if this isn't already obvious <.<) |
23:20.42 | Technobliterator | Like, the whole of Starkiller base |
23:20.44 | Technobliterator | just none of it |
23:20.47 | Technobliterator | makes any freaking sense |
23:21.01 | Monet | It's been said that when the developers for the original Star Wars tested an explosio nwith no sound ot an audience, it lost its impact. |
23:21.05 | Technobliterator | nazi stormtroopers are so close to a planet destroying death ray that should've torched them |
23:21.14 | Technobliterator | the death ray freaking travels faster than the speed of light |
23:21.18 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
23:21.18 | Technobliterator | and the worst sin of all |
23:21.29 | DrodoEmpire | Everything being seen at the same time |
23:21.30 | Technobliterator | they can see the death ray from a planet in a different star system entirely |
23:21.31 | DrodoEmpire | >.< |
23:21.41 | Technobliterator | WHEN IT WAS FREAKING LIGHT YEARS AWAY |
23:21.43 | Technobliterator | .______. |
23:21.44 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
23:22.05 | Xho | What about the fact that they were sucking a star into it |
23:22.11 | Technobliterator | YES |
23:22.16 | DrodoEmpire | That starkiller base thing was greasy |
23:22.18 | DrodoEmpire | So bad |
23:22.20 | DrodoEmpire | Hated it |
23:22.20 | Technobliterator | and then the planet orbits just fine |
23:22.21 | Technobliterator | lives just fine |
23:22.23 | Technobliterator | ugggggggggggh |
23:22.30 | Monet | Star Wars - What is this relativity that you speak of, is it to do with who Kylo Ren's parent's are? |
23:22.31 | Technobliterator | Starkiller base just shouldn't have been included |
23:22.38 | TekDroid | Also the fact that the planets it targeted were shown across the sky even though they were in the same, far away system |
23:22.46 | Technobliterator | It was basically Death Star 3, it was lazy writing |
23:22.49 | Technobliterator | but then again |
23:22.53 | Technobliterator | so much in Episode VII is so awesome |
23:22.55 | Xho | The new characters are definitely the best things to come out of VII |
23:22.58 | Technobliterator | that you can kind of forgive it |
23:23.00 | Technobliterator | oh yes |
23:23.04 | Xho | Kylo Ren especially |
23:23.11 | Technobliterator | I'd say Rey is my favourite |
23:23.16 | Xho | For once it's not a one-dimensional villain |
23:23.21 | Technobliterator | The only problem with her is she's a bit overpowered |
23:23.21 | Monet | Starkiller Logic: The Rebels blew up our predecessor's super-expensive weapon twice, let's build a bigger one! |
23:23.22 | DrodoEmpire | Rey's... Ehh... |
23:23.23 | DrodoEmpire | Bad |
23:23.29 | DrodoEmpire | She has good development |
23:23.38 | DrodoEmpire | In terms of backstory |
23:23.39 | Technobliterator | she has excellent development |
23:23.39 | TekDroid | Episode VII is a good movie but it has some plot problems due to overreliance on being an Episode IV remake. |
23:24.07 | DrodoEmpire | But its never made clear as to how she just *knows* how to run the Falcon, and to use the force, etc. |
23:24.07 | Technobliterator | Episode VII being a IV remake was intentional, it was basically just designed to feel familiar and feel more like an OT Star Wars film |
23:24.14 | Xho | I'd say my favourite new character is Poe Dameron though |
23:24.24 | Technobliterator | Notice also at several times in the script they include metaphors for that |
23:24.35 | Technobliterator | Like, at the start, "this will begin to make things right" |
23:24.35 | DrodoEmpire | At least Luke's growth in actual skill was apparent and gradual |
23:24.50 | Technobliterator | and then "R2-D2 has been in low power mode ever since Master Luke disappeared" |
23:24.51 | DrodoEmpire | The other characters I don't have much issue with though |
23:25.00 | DrodoEmpire | They're pretty good |
23:25.05 | Technobliterator | yeah, Drodo, I agree with you, Rey was way overpowered |
23:25.09 | Monet | In the Falcon's case, it sounds like she has experience with Corellian YT-class freighters. |
23:25.11 | Technobliterator | But that doesn't take away from her as a character |
23:25.26 | Technobliterator | It's just that the scriptwriting of VII got lazy at times |
23:25.30 | Technobliterator | but it had so many awesome moments |
23:25.33 | DrodoEmpire | It does imo, but again she's got an interesting backstory and personality so its alright |
23:25.42 | Technobliterator | that it's so easy to forgive the 9999 plot holes |
23:26.04 | Technobliterator | I'd say VII was a much better film than IV |
23:26.10 | ZF101 | I liked Fin the most. |
23:26.12 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah, SW was never great with the intricacies and complexity of its plots but that isn't why you watch them |
23:26.15 | Xho | Eh I couldn't compare the two |
23:26.16 | Technobliterator | yeah |
23:26.18 | DrodoEmpire | ZF: I have to agree |
23:26.30 | DrodoEmpire | But no I like IV more I think, its close though |
23:26.32 | Technobliterator | Episode V is the only one with no glaring plot holes that |
23:26.44 | Technobliterator | take away from it much in retrospective |
23:26.45 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah Episode V was just brilliant all-around |
23:27.18 | Xho | The first one was released in 1977 so the time frame does leave a lot of cinematographic discrepancies up in the air among other things |
23:27.40 | Technobliterator | to me it's V > VII > IV = VI > III >>>>>>> II >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> silent cartoons >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> street performer plays >>>>>>>>>>>>> Episode I |
23:28.06 | Xho | More or less the same |
23:28.16 | Xho | Darth Maul was the best thing about the prequel trilogy |
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23:28.31 | Technobliterator | oh, he was |
23:28.33 | Monet | Xho: It's something of a miracle IV was a success at all. |
23:28.38 | Technobliterator | But the film was such a mess |
23:28.50 | Technobliterator | hi liquid |
23:28.50 | Monet | Star Wars could easily have gathered dust as a sci-fi B movie. |
23:29.12 | Xho | To be honest Ewan McGregor does a good job as Obi-Wan |
23:29.18 | Xho | Just that the script is poor |
23:29.25 | Technobliterator | Ewan McGregor was the best thing about the prequels |
23:29.37 | Technobliterator | They wasted Samuel L Jackson and Christopher Lee |
23:29.40 | Technobliterator | and heck |
23:29.43 | Technobliterator | they wasted Natalie Portman |
23:29.55 | ZF101 | And Liam. |
23:30.19 | Xho | Apparently Ewan McGregor is actually floating the idea of an Obi-Wan solo film |
23:30.43 | Xho | Well |
23:30.44 | Monet | I'm somewhat interestedin Rogue One |
23:30.47 | Xho | Expressing interest |
23:31.17 | Technobliterator | I'm super interested in Rogue One, that looks excellent |
23:31.23 | Technobliterator | yeah, I'd see an Obi-Wan solo film |
23:31.53 | Xho | >Mads Mikkelsen |
23:31.54 | Xho | oh god |
23:33.10 | Monet | Star Wars prequals are a very good example of how you can have the best actors i nthe world, but if the script stinks then unless they're enjoying themselves, they'll appear to stink |
23:33.34 | Technobliterator | Palpatine did an excellent job |
23:33.38 | Technobliterator | and Obi-Wan |
23:33.40 | Technobliterator | and that was about it |
23:33.45 | Xho | UNLIMITED POWER |
23:33.45 | Technobliterator | oh, Jango Fett wasn't bad |
23:34.00 | Technobliterator | I'd argue Yoda and Windu were fine at times |
23:34.16 | Xho | Rogue One looks decent though |
23:34.17 | Xho | One thing |
23:34.19 | Xho | Where's Darth Vader |
23:34.32 | Technobliterator | he'll be in |
23:34.36 | Technobliterator | Boba Fett probably will be as well |
23:34.45 | Technobliterator | they won't miss out that fan service opportunity |
23:35.20 | Monet | Actually a bad script hurts unknown actors more than it hurts legendary actors |
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23:36.06 | Xho | I dunno about James Earl Jones voicing Darth Vader though |
23:36.06 | Monet | WIth a alegendary actor, you'll know they can act. But a bad script and an unknown actor; even if said actor is good, the opinion will emerge that they suck. |
23:36.17 | Xho | He's in his mid 80s now |
23:37.07 | ZF101_ | They could always get that guy who voices him in games. |
23:37.27 | Wormy_ | Technobliterator, Monet, DrodoEmpire: Here's s |
23:37.31 | Wormy_ | blah |
23:37.44 | Wormy_ | Here's a scientific explanation of Starkiller base http://aleph.se/andart2/megascale/starkiller-base-versus-the-ideal-gas-law/ |
23:37.54 | Monet | Also don't forget Lenord Nimoy appeared in Into Darkness. |
23:38.36 | Wormy_ | Though I never got how the beam could be seen from different systems, unless it is A) fired through hyperspace or B) was all in the same system (which I think that scene was) |
23:38.49 | ZF101_ | Honestly, given how over the top and outright stupid that thing was, the First Order deserved to have it blow up. |
23:38.49 | Wormy_ | A was kind of described |
23:38.57 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_: It should be noted right off the bat that the DS and (probably) Starkiller base weren't made to take over the galaxy, or even for warfare- They were obviously psychological tools to scare the populace |
23:39.33 | Monet | Wormy_: Yeah honestly once it was brought up that the laser involves dark energy it lost all believability for me. |
23:39.47 | TekDroid | Wormy_: The planets it blew up were all within the same system but I think the planet they were on was in another system. Which is just part of the FX errors |
23:40.12 | Technobliterator | Well, that makes a tiny bit more sense - but the issue of being able to see the death rays from another planet bothers me more |
23:40.37 | Monet | The Empire harnesing thep ower of dar kenergy hmm maybe, but this fraction remnant who spen most of their time in the Unknown Regions? Sure, and I huess Zimbabwe has its own version of the Fermilab particle Accelerator. |
23:40.38 | ZF101_ | I always thought the First Order was supposed to be a bunch of Neo-Nazis wanting to bring the Empire back. How did they build this Over Compensator-class Starkiller? |
23:40.40 | Technobliterator | I think Star Wars is really missing the science damage control that the EU brought |
23:41.00 | ZF101_ | Tis but fanfiction! |
23:41.07 | Wormy_ | What bothers me is the red colouration of the beam, it would appeare as blinding white light, but most of the sepectrum from such a beam would likely be in the gamma range. |
23:41.16 | TekDroid | DrodoEmpire: they were definitely psychological weapons rather than conquest ones. Even scenes in Episode IV outright state it. |
23:42.03 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
23:42.05 | Monet | Technobliterator: Name me a popular science fiction film/TV show that *doesn't* show visible beams out of laser wepaons. |
23:42.47 | TekDroid | Even Starkiller base's target was about throwing the Republic into chaos via a first strike to decimate the Republic fleet and destroying its seat of government |
23:43.16 | Wormy_ | https://theconversation.com/death-stars-are-a-waste-of-time-heres-the-best-way-to-take-over-the-galaxy-52586 |
23:43.27 | Technobliterator | Visible beams that should be light years away? |
23:43.51 | ZF101_ | I have another question. Why is the Republic sitting on it's bum and just funding a resistance movement. Shouldn't they be worried about the whole "Empire coming to murder us all" thing? |
23:43.57 | Monet | Technobliterator: As Drodo pointed out, Star Wars is more science fatasy |
23:43.59 | Wormy_ | ^ |
23:44.31 | Monet | Look at the battle of Coruscant: Apparently being critically damaged means that a starship *has* to fall to the surface of a planet. |
23:45.38 | Wormy_ | It's already been pointed out that the Starkiller base is a psychological weapon. But given the manufacturing capabilities required to build such a thing, you are better just sending the swar, of robots to bury or disassemble a planet. As in fact the Loron are doing in Da Reckoning. |
23:45.54 | TekDroid | ZF101_: I think other sources state that the Republic didn't want to acknowledge the threat of the First Order so people like Leia started funding the Resistance to do something about them. |
23:46.23 | ZF101_ | How convient. |
23:46.38 | ZF101_ | I guess that patches up one plot hole. Time to fill 1,999 others. |
23:47.08 | Monet | So much for restoring the Republic. |
23:47.42 | Wormy_ | Meh, I just find it convenient to fill such plot holes with my own explanations and ignore canonical explanations if there were any. They can be fun to think about. |
23:47.43 | TekDroid | According to the Wiki it had something to do with a disarmament treaty in the Republic. |
23:48.25 | Wormy_ | And why would the Republic agree to that? It's lying signing away your ability to defend against your foe. |
23:48.33 | Wormy_ | *like signing |
23:48.59 | Wormy_ | Especially if they came victorious over remnants of the Empire |
23:49.19 | ZF101_ | Shouldn't they be forcing the Empire to disarm, not the other way around? |
23:49.26 | Monet | It would make more sense for a disarmament treaty to be enforced on what's left of the Empire |
23:49.39 | Wormy_ | And the first sign of militarisation on the First Order's side would surely militerise the Republic again. |
23:50.08 | Monet | ZF101_: Exactly, It's like the ALlied powers deciding "we defeated the German empire! Let's get rid of all our guns! |
23:50.21 | ZF101_ | Danke, dumkofs. |
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23:50.44 | ZF101_ | Yeah, EU handled this whole thing better. |
23:50.44 | Charles_Murray | That's... exactly what happened |
23:50.46 | Charles_Murray | Historically |
23:50.55 | ZF101_ | Kind of. |
23:51.33 | TekDroid | Wormy_: Digging deeper into the wiki detail... Apparently the Republic didn't totally conquer the empire, but basically just signed a treaty limiting it and it fleet fled to the outer galaxy. Then both groups agreed to disarm only the First Order was out there and didn't follow |
23:52.06 | TekDroid | Both sides disarming to reduce the chance of another war |
23:52.10 | Monet | Charles_Murray: Yes but Germany was given severe limits on the size of the military it coudl support |
23:52.32 | ZF101_ | Hitler went beyond these because of the threat of communism. |
23:52.35 | Wormy_ | I'm beginning to think J.J. Abrams has an obsession with the colour red. I.e. Red Matter from Star Trek, red killer beams in Star Wars. |
23:52.41 | Monet | Charles_Murray: Here, Imagine if the clauses to disarm and de-tooth the German EMpire were completely left out of the treaty of Versailles. |
23:52.54 | Charles_Murray | "signed a treaty limiting it and it fleet fled to the outer galaxy. Then both groups agreed to disarm only the First Order was out there and didn't follow" |
23:53.21 | Monet | Oh right, my bad, was confusedo n context |
23:53.23 | Monet | So it's more like "out of sight out of mind" |
23:53.35 | Wormy_ | Does that imply other Imperial remnants exist as well? |
23:53.49 | ZF101_ | Fingers crossed, Empire of the Hand for the next movie. |
23:53.49 | Monet | Because no one, i nthe history of mankind, ever regretted the unmonitored exile of their hated enemy. |
23:54.01 | TekDroid | Wormy_: A greatly reduced Galactic Empire apparently still exists. |
23:54.12 | Wormy_ | Interesting |
23:54.35 | TekDroid | They apparently never destroyed the Empire itself, just beat up most if it then disarmed the rest. |
23:54.52 | Wormy_ | It's almost like the Legacy era situation of the Sith, the Empire in Exile, etc. |
23:56.57 | TekDroid | The more I read the more it seems like the Allies just went Treaty of Versailles on the empire, then the First Order is their Nazi Germany. |
23:57.42 | Monet | TekDroid: The original EMpire had Nazi influences so that doesn't sound like much of a stetch. |
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23:58.21 | TekDroid | The first order just exaggerates the references further. |
23:58.50 | ZF101 | What did I miss when my internet derped. |
23:59.22 | Monet | I swear there's got to be a name for that cinematic trope where unless the scriptwriters were ocnstantly reminding you whose side you're supposed ot be on, the good guys are either incompetent, idiotic or arrogent. |