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| 00:10.56 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 00:13.33 | Wormy_away | This is the gross effects of laser tattoo removal http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/news/special/2016/newsspec_14108/media/700-img_1340-lr_lqbunp9.jpg |
| 00:14.02 | TekDroid | Well that's not horrifying. |
| 00:14.42 | Wormy_away | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-6b62f336-ff42-42b9-a23d-212d4d6ca5d8 |
| 00:15.09 | Wormy_away | "On a scale of 1 to 10, pain of removal 11 (if grazing one's knee is 1" |
| 00:15.20 | MonetSemi | We've had another death people! |
| 00:16.38 | Wormy_away | Oh? |
| 00:16.49 | DrodoEmpire | Wha? |
| 00:16.54 | MonetSemi | ANother musician is no longer with us |
| 00:17.00 | DrodoEmpire | Which? D: |
| 00:17.19 | The_Randomness | f |
| 00:17.34 | Wormy_away | Stop it, 2016. Just Stop. It. |
| 00:17.57 | Wormy_away | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36123214 |
| 00:18.00 | MonetSemi | Trying to find the name |
| 00:18.23 | dino82_ | bye bye all til lnext time! |
| 00:18.44 | Liquid_Ink | In another blow to the music industry, Kanye West was tragically found in his apartment still alive. |
| 00:18.51 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 00:18.52 | Wormy_away | Faeces bacteria found on KFC ice http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36126788 |
| 00:19.37 | DrodoEmpire | Ugh gross |
| 00:20.17 | Wormy_away | goodnight |
| 00:24.28 | MonetSemi | 2016 is killing all our venerated artists |
| 00:30.49 | DrodoEmpire | Hm |
| 00:36.10 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/aQjtL1z.jpg |
| 00:55.42 | DrodoEmpire | http://i.imgur.com/KVCYYFj.gif - Drodo driving |
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| 01:04.15 | MonetSemi | Just heard that there was a petition to vaccinate young children against MMR diseases after a young child died. |
| 01:04.33 | MonetSemi | Morbid as that story, is I'd say it's score one to the pro-vax group |
| 01:04.33 | MonetSemi | Hi |
| 01:04.44 | ZF101 | Hello. |
| 01:06.09 | DrodoEmpire | Hi ZF |
| 01:06.30 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah people should have to get vaccinations, except for those with a legitimate medical exception |
| 01:07.29 | MonetSemi | Seems quite morbid that it took a dead child for that sort of traction |
| 01:07.53 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... |
| 01:08.04 | ZF101 | It often takes that to get anyone to change. |
| 01:08.04 | MonetSemi | Even though the whole "vaccinations for older kids" would apply only to children whose parents neglected to vaccinate |
| 01:08.59 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 01:20.01 | MonetSemi | http://img14.deviantart.net/892f/i/2016/115/8/4/draconid_imperium_crest_test_by_spacer176-da09a8l.jpg got an idea for the coat of arms of the DI |
| 01:22.09 | DrodoEmpire | Oh that's really nice |
| 01:22.10 | DrodoEmpire | :D |
| 01:27.18 | MonetSemi | Might work on it some more once I get some projects out the way |
| 01:27.28 | DrodoEmpire | Okay |
| 01:27.41 | MonetSemi | It was St George's day ysterday so I figured "a day late but why not?" |
| 01:28.06 | DrodoEmpire | Right yeah |
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| 01:33.11 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 01:33.26 | DrodoEmpire | Hi |
| 01:59.49 | The_Randomness | Faces in Spore are impossible |
| 02:00.20 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 02:00.57 | The_Randomness | It would be better if I could scale down the eye parts some more |
| 02:01.15 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 02:47.24 | The_Randomness | DrodoEmpire: I posted a new version of my crude mockup creature on the titanpad |
| 02:47.31 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, good |
| 02:48.45 | DrodoEmpire | Seems alright so far |
| 02:49.11 | DrodoEmpire | I understand its a mockup but I thought perhaps they're a bit slimmer? I dunno |
| 02:49.26 | The_Randomness | Like, this most recent version? |
| 02:49.37 | DrodoEmpire | I think it is |
| 02:49.40 | The_Randomness | Yeah, it is |
| 02:49.45 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 02:54.00 | The_Randomness | I wish I could make the little nostrils smaller, but w/e |
| 02:54.06 | The_Randomness | I think that's all I'll do for the mockup |
| 02:54.45 | DrodoEmpire | Alright |
| 02:55.22 | The_Randomness | I'm off for tonight, bye guys |
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| 07:47.12 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink: http://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/6/69852/4201847-just-dc-comis-things_o_3290537.jpg |
| 07:47.27 | Liquid_Ink | That's pretty good |
| 07:48.29 | Liquid_Ink | By which I mean "I burst out laughing" |
| 07:52.17 | ImpyDroid | I am actually happy they did not make Waller sexy in Suicide Squad |
| 08:27.49 | Liquid_Ink | Tumblr is making apocalyptic prophecies about Suicide Squad. |
| 08:28.00 | Liquid_Ink | They predict that it will cause the return of MySpace |
| 08:33.29 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink: http://i.imgur.com/1V178Ui.png |
| 08:36.48 | Liquid_Ink | Beautiful |
| 08:58.56 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink: I have seen Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn criticised for their sexualised character |
| 08:59.02 | ImpyDroid | her even |
| 09:02.03 | Liquid_Ink | Women in comic books need a serious effort to make them not-sexualised. Though personally I think Harley Quinn is fine considering she's a nutjob with a crush |
| 09:15.28 | ImpyDroid | Yeah it fits her personality |
| 09:15.48 | ImpyDroid | Besides Leto's Joker is walking around shirtless |
| 09:15.57 | ImpyDroid | And is much younger than Ledger |
| 09:16.09 | ImpyDroid | So at least it is equal hur |
| 09:16.48 | Liquid_Ink | Yes |
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| 11:14.34 | Hachiman | Hello |
| 11:20.06 | Ghelae | Hello. |
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| 11:49.35 | Wormydroid | Hi |
| 11:50.59 | Wormydroid | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-36127892 |
| 11:51.32 | Wormydroid | Well that's depressing news |
| 11:52.00 | Wormydroid | Man celebrates the birth of his son, buys poisoned sweets and dies. |
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| 12:40.23 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 12:40.39 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
| 12:41.16 | ImpyDroid | HiiH |
| 12:42.03 | OluapPlayer | I just got here and the internet already went out once |
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| 12:46.50 | Wormy_ | North Korean propaganda in English about how North Korean socialism is a leading cause for world socialism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO7pzASmJ6k |
| 12:54.32 | Technobliterator | pffffft |
| 12:55.41 | ImpyDroid | Wormy_: >leading cause for *world* socialism |
| 12:56.06 | ImpyDroid | >literally has autarky and isolation as the main part of its ideology |
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| 13:03.16 | Wormy_ | Lol, I know it isn't socialism, but their propaganda claims otherwise |
| 13:03.34 | Wormy_ | at least socialism as we like it |
| 13:03.57 | Wormy_ | or think of it |
| 13:05.36 | Wormy_ | I find the unauadible audio snippets 1 minute in hilarious |
| 13:05.44 | Wormy_ | *inaudible |
| 13:11.27 | Wormy_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyongyang_Declaration |
| 13:21.46 | ImpyDroid | Wormy_: http://i.imgur.com/il1tv9t.png |
| 13:23.10 | Wormy_ | meh, I think of the Normans as civilised Vikings. |
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| 13:24.03 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 13:24.24 | Ghelae | OluapPlayer: Are we making the Maxis-creations-have-no-taxonomy idea official now? |
| 13:24.44 | OluapPlayer | Considering days have passed and no one opposed it, yes |
| 13:25.37 | Ghelae | All right. I'll do what I do best and clear up the unused taxa left behind from it. |
| 13:25.45 | OluapPlayer | Technobliterator: http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f278/katietiedrich/comic455_zpsakwcqhrv.png |
| 13:27.49 | ImpyDroid | Wait wait |
| 13:27.49 | ImpyDroid | What do you meqn |
| 13:27.49 | ImpyDroid | *mean |
| 13:28.23 | OluapPlayer | Taxonomy is user-made fiction |
| 13:28.33 | OluapPlayer | It shouldn't exist in Maxis-made content |
| 13:30.14 | Hachiman | I agree |
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| 13:36.34 | ImpyDroid | Right |
| 13:37.03 | ImpyDroid | I do not understand why we should do it but I also have no real reason to object |
| 13:38.04 | OluapPlayer | Just to keep fiction out of official things |
| 13:38.09 | ImpyDroid | That depends on how you approach taxonomy |
| 13:38.49 | ImpyDroid | I think back in the day we actually like deduced it from the creature's appearance |
| 13:39.15 | ImpyDroid | Like the Grox were theropods because of how they looked |
| 13:39.19 | Ghelae | It's always supposed to have been based on the creature's appearance. |
| 13:39.37 | Ghelae | We can't do it phylogenetically, when these are aliens from all different planets. |
| 13:39.41 | ImpyDroid | But later on I think we began focusing more on the creature's fictional traits |
| 13:39.58 | ImpyDroid | Speaking of which does that make taxonomy an in-universe thing |
| 13:40.20 | OluapPlayer | Presumably |
| 13:41.30 | OluapPlayer | As far as I'm concerned taxon is just a thing you can do if you feel like |
| 13:41.58 | ImpyDroid | Hm |
| 13:42.07 | ImpyDroid | What of the Grox? |
| 13:42.29 | OluapPlayer | Maxis-made |
| 13:42.30 | OluapPlayer | No taxon |
| 13:43.21 | ImpyDroid | ;~; |
| 13:43.38 | ImpyDroid | They shall always remain "Mechanicaos cruelis" in my heart |
| 13:44.39 | OluapPlayer | I remember the rather aggressive shitstorm that happened when we did classify them |
| 13:44.43 | OluapPlayer | This decision invalidates all of it |
| 13:44.47 | OluapPlayer | very humerus |
| 13:44.53 | ImpyDroid | I remember this |
| 13:44.58 | ImpyDroid | I was part of that shitstorm |
| 13:45.36 | ImpyDroid | It was about whether Grox were mammals or synapsids I believe |
| 13:46.20 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
| 13:49.18 | ImpyDroid | ...Are they actually mammals or synapsids in-universe |
| 13:49.44 | OluapPlayer | I don't know, it doesn't matter to me |
| 13:51.17 | ImpyDroid | Screw it going to claim they are mammals in my fiction from now on |
| 13:51.36 | ImpyDroid | After seven years, I win |
| 13:53.28 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 13:58.37 | ImpyDroid | Actually the Grox being mammals has one potential weird implication |
| 13:58.54 | ImpyDroid | That they have mammary glands that is |
| 13:59.09 | Hachiman | Most mammals do |
| 13:59.11 | ImpyDroid | Behold as I summon Hachiman into this discussion |
| 13:59.13 | ImpyDroid | Here |
| 13:59.17 | Hachiman | Most mammals do not have breasts though |
| 13:59.30 | ImpyDroid | Bats and primates mostly |
| 13:59.36 | Hachiman | >bats |
| 13:59.38 | Hachiman | Excuse me |
| 13:59.46 | ImpyDroid | Bats do have breasts yes |
| 13:59.53 | ImpyDroid | They are not very pronounced off |
| 13:59.55 | ImpyDroid | *ofc |
| 14:00.36 | OluapPlayer | Don't confuse breasts with nipples |
| 14:00.51 | ImpyDroid | They only swell when actually nursing yes |
| 14:00.58 | OluapPlayer | For all we know they could be like the platypus and just sweat milk |
| 14:07.37 | ImpyDroid | That too |
| 14:07.39 | Ghelae | Well, it does seem that every creature in Spore lays eggs, so Grox being mammalian would make them like monotremes. Of course, there isn't any milk in Spore either, and obviously things are different in the fictionverse. |
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| 14:13.53 | Jepardi | Hi |
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| 15:01.19 | The_Randomness | Hello |
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| 16:05.18 | Wormy_working | Hachiman: https://www.facebook.com/Phil-Mitchell-for-Prime-Minister-1000570103365153/ |
| 16:05.45 | Hachiman | Fucking kek |
| 16:06.38 | Wormy_working | https://www.facebook.com/329067742187/photos/a.10150188029717188.329018.329067742187/10154131079387188/?type=3&theater |
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| 16:35.22 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 16:51.34 | Wormy_working | Hachiman: Phil Plait aka the Bad Astronomer must read the Xeelee Sequence https://twitter.com/BadAstronomer/status/606266793166970880 |
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| 16:54.59 | Xho | WATCH OUT FOR THE SHAQ ATTACK |
| 16:55.06 | Wormy_working | TekDroid: https://twitter.com/BadAstronomer/status/722120963337224192 |
| 16:55.35 | Wormy_working | It's a Stargake! |
| 16:55.48 | OluapPlayer | spot |
| 16:56.26 | OluapPlayer | Your dwarf got murdered by goblins |
| 16:56.41 | Xho | I'm gonna go on Oblivion to exact revenge on them |
| 16:56.54 | Xho | But cba right now |
| 16:58.26 | OluapPlayer | A goblin wielding one of these https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/Karwats.jpg |
| 16:58.36 | OluapPlayer | You and at least 10 other people died |
| 16:58.52 | Xho | Sadistic dominatrix goblin |
| 16:59.18 | Xho | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/9b/Zenith2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20160424201636 Oh yeah I didn't post this to the IRC yesterday |
| 17:00.51 | OluapPlayer | sunny land |
| 17:01.04 | Quark8 | Turkeyland |
| 17:02.03 | Quark8 | https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/extraterrestrial-thursday-today-21st-15-00cest-on-twitch.922406/ That picture Y_Y |
| 17:02.08 | Xho | I was thinking of making a kind of Arcadian but ultimately it would look like a larger version of an Orichalcum Elf |
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| 17:15.29 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 17:16.57 | Quark8 | Hi |
| 17:18.08 | ImpyDroid | Xho: http://i.imgur.com/bhDLHwu.png |
| 17:18.12 | ImpyDroid | Relevant |
| 17:19.30 | Xho | jesus |
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| 17:37.43 | The_Randomness | Hello |
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| 17:44.56 | ZF101 | Hello y'all. |
| 17:45.15 | The_Randomness | Hello |
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| 18:21.05 | Luxor | A massive inspiration hit me today when I was listening to a song from Muhtesem Yuzyil soundtrack |
| 18:21.28 | Luxor | I finaly managed to write down anything I was planning to lately |
| 18:22.12 | Luxor | Doe, as I am a Pole and english is not native to me; |
| 18:22.38 | Luxor | I'd like to know whether any mistakes were made in translation from Polish base text...: |
| 18:23.52 | Luxor | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M3y495EPNfx3yBpd0QdUdxqWFB-VHCIboCmhSv1P-u0/edit?usp=sharing |
| 18:24.05 | Luxor | Oh |
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| 18:24.11 | Xho | Agh |
| 18:24.13 | Luxor | Typo's overload propably caused him to leabe |
| 18:24.17 | Luxor | Ah, leave* |
| 18:24.19 | Luxor | Fug dat |
| 18:24.21 | Luxor | Hello Xho |
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| 18:24.26 | Xho | Hi |
| 18:24.40 | Xho | Trying to get an Oblivion mod to work, doesn't want to by the looks of it |
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| 18:28.36 | Wormy_ | I really hate the pre-production stage of any project. I get excited, overwhelmed, cannot collect my thoughts and do work very well. But once I start, it's like someones burning nitrous oxide. |
| 18:28.52 | Wormy_ | Ghelae, The_Randomness: I might need to give the Super Collab a break for a few days or so while I organise myself. |
| 18:29.08 | Wormy_ | I'm finding it distracting. |
| 18:29.10 | The_Randomness | That's fine |
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| 18:30.34 | Wormy_ | My client wants some geological animations/dynamics fully annotated, an interactive website. And I've got my final year show to prepare for, I'm thinking of making a game that involves interaction and complexity. |
| 18:30.43 | Wormy_ | *and an |
| 18:31.12 | Wormy_ | less than two months to do it all |
| 18:32.39 | Wormy_ | I should have spent my energy making those maps on my real life projects, so yeah I need a force this break. |
| 18:33.20 | Luxor | ouch |
| 18:33.35 | The_Randomness | Oh dear |
| 18:33.53 | The_Randomness | Take as much time as you need off, we understand |
| 18:34.39 | Wormy_away | Thanks |
| 18:35.26 | Xho | Well that's destroyed my Oblivion for good |
| 18:35.30 | Xho | 10/10 best mod |
| 18:35.59 | OluapPlayer | What was it? |
| 18:36.29 | Xho | Oblivion Reloaded, some kind of graphics/textures enhancement |
| 18:36.34 | Xho | My computer didn't like it |
| 18:36.44 | OluapPlayer | upgrade ur rig u caveman |
| 18:36.48 | Xho | Gotta uninstall Oblivion because it's fubard it |
| 18:36.54 | Xho | Not that, the game files messed up |
| 18:37.04 | OluapPlayer | Oh |
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| 18:38.50 | Monet | hi |
| 18:39.05 | OluapPlayer | Hello |
| 18:39.28 | OluapPlayer | I had my first goblin siege yesterday |
| 18:40.07 | Monet | How'd it go? |
| 18:40.15 | OluapPlayer | Around 12 people died |
| 18:40.19 | OluapPlayer | Including Xho |
| 18:40.24 | ImpyDroid | hi |
| 18:40.45 | Monet | That sounds like a massacre. |
| 18:40.48 | Monet | What happened? |
| 18:40.55 | ImpyDroid | Xho: there is a recreation of Oblivion using Skyrim's engine I believe |
| 18:41.25 | OluapPlayer | I was unprepared and had no armor made, plus several of the dwarves charged the goblins bare fisted |
| 18:41.46 | OluapPlayer | A goblin equipped with a scourge no less |
| 18:41.55 | Monet | Did you have any reserves of metal? |
| 18:42.30 | OluapPlayer | I've not found any steel yet |
| 18:42.47 | Monet | Iron, tin, copper? |
| 18:43.02 | OluapPlayer | None of those |
| 18:43.14 | Monet | I've been there. |
| 18:43.19 | OluapPlayer | I've got some silver though, which I used to make war hammers |
| 18:44.10 | OluapPlayer | Also your dwarf is crippled. I assume they're moving around with the help of crutches |
| 18:44.10 | Monet | The alternative is leather. |
| 18:45.36 | OluapPlayer | Also also, I've dug to the far end of the world but I can't figure out how to access the magma sea. I know it's there because I keep hitting warm stones while digging, but I'm yet to find a way to access it |
| 18:46.24 | Monet | Never dug that deep myself |
| 18:47.02 | Monet | ImpyDroid: http://img14.deviantart.net/892f/i/2016/115/8/4/draconid_imperium_crest_test_by_spacer176-da09a8l.jpg |
| 18:47.17 | Luxor | Noice |
| 18:47.29 | OluapPlayer | I wanted access to magma so I could have some magma furnaces |
| 18:47.30 | ImpyDroid | That is awesome |
| 18:47.38 | OluapPlayer | since normal ones constantly need to be supplied with charcoal |
| 18:47.39 | ImpyDroid | The only thing I do not like is the two dragons on top |
| 18:47.44 | ImpyDroid | They are a bit too large |
| 18:48.20 | OluapPlayer | I'm also suffering from a booze crisis. I've a crapton of plump helmets to brew booze with, but no empty barrels |
| 18:48.38 | Monet | OluapPlayer: Sounds like you're struggling with wood supplies. |
| 18:49.02 | OluapPlayer | I think it's because all my barrels are loaded with meat and fish |
| 18:49.12 | OluapPlayer | I got more fisherdwarves than any other kind of profession in this fort |
| 18:49.46 | Monet | ImpyDroid: Still a work in progress but yeah, I oculd downsize the mslightly |
| 18:49.54 | OluapPlayer | I spent most of my time preoccupied making beds and doors because migrants keep showing up |
| 18:50.15 | OluapPlayer | Oh and coffins and slabs to bury all the people murdered by the goblins |
| 18:50.22 | OluapPlayer | I've had two ghosts so far |
| 18:50.32 | Monet | I usually make my doors out of stone |
| 18:50.48 | OluapPlayer | Oh and the vampire is still around being a dick |
| 18:51.22 | OluapPlayer | Some people also died of dehydration somehow even though the fort is literally next to a river |
| 18:51.50 | ImpyDroid | Also it reminds me of the former Iranian coat of arms |
| 18:51.59 | Monet | Dwarves don't like drinking water. |
| 18:52.15 | OluapPlayer | They gotta do it if they prefer existing |
| 18:52.17 | ImpyDroid | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Imperial_Coat_of_Arms_of_Iran.svg/2000px-Imperial_Coat_of_Arms_of_Iran.svg.png |
| 18:52.42 | ImpyDroid | Can one at least make beer out of water |
| 18:52.55 | Luxor | Jesus did |
| 18:52.58 | Luxor | Oh, it was wine. |
| 18:52.59 | Luxor | nevermind |
| 18:53.00 | OluapPlayer | I've learned some hours ago about custom statues and engravings. I plan to decorate my fort with statues at some point |
| 18:53.03 | OluapPlayer | Statues of weregilas |
| 18:53.14 | Monet | ImpyDroid: Dwarves only drink water as a last resort. |
| 18:53.27 | Monet | They prefer booze |
| 18:53.28 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: glorify my image plz |
| 18:53.38 | ImpyDroid | Monet: Hence my suggestion |
| 18:53.46 | OluapPlayer | Imperios the Weregila |
| 18:54.08 | OluapPlayer | You can only make booze out of plants |
| 18:54.26 | OluapPlayer | Plants and empty barrels. The latter is what I'm missing |
| 18:54.46 | Monet | They somehow make refreshing booze without using water. |
| 18:55.01 | OluapPlayer | Dwarf technology |
| 18:55.12 | Monet | Piss off the elves, hack the forest down. |
| 18:55.40 | OluapPlayer | My fortress also looks incredibly ugly |
| 18:55.56 | OluapPlayer | I shouldn't have made everything in the layer directly under the rivers |
| 18:56.05 | Monet | Ugly how? |
| 18:56.10 | ImpyDroid | Monet: Maybe they squeeze the plants |
| 18:56.15 | Xho | hao can u tell its ugly |
| 18:56.23 | Xho | its all characters and stoof |
| 18:56.32 | OluapPlayer | With my eyes u donger |
| 18:56.38 | Monet | ImpyDroid: Probably |
| 18:56.52 | OluapPlayer | It's ugly because I had to dig around river and murky pools, so the rooms are all over the place |
| 18:57.06 | Monet | Oh that kind of ugly |
| 18:57.19 | OluapPlayer | Also the several first layers are made out of soil |
| 18:57.24 | OluapPlayer | You can't smooth soil |
| 18:57.28 | ImpyDroid | The coat of arms thing made me wonder |
| 18:57.42 | ImpyDroid | Are coarlati actually related closely to Draconis? |
| 18:58.00 | OluapPlayer | If the rest of the SporeWiki dwarves die, I might retire this fort and make a new one |
| 18:58.58 | ImpyDroid | The original Draconis at least |
| 19:00.27 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:OluapPlayer/Sandbox#Dwarf_Fortress I keep the status of the dwarves here |
| 19:01.06 | Monet | ImpyDroid: About as closely as bears are to dogs. |
| 19:03.56 | ImpyDroid | Ah right |
| 19:04.03 | Monet | Psychologically too. |
| 19:04.18 | OluapPlayer | So they're Draconis equivalent of lemurs |
| 19:04.25 | ImpyDroid | ...I was about to say that |
| 19:04.29 | Hachiman | Lemurs are not bears hur |
| 19:04.38 | OluapPlayer | Bears and dogs |
| 19:04.41 | OluapPlayer | Humans and lemurs |
| 19:04.56 | Hachiman | Wouldn't it be human and chimpanzee |
| 19:05.44 | Monet | Huma nand chimpanzee is more like wolves and dogs. |
| 19:05.46 | Monet | humans and* |
| 19:06.09 | The_Randomness | I need to head to class, see you guys later |
| 19:07.39 | Ghelae | A quick look at mammal classification shows bears to dogs is like humans to tarsiers, specifically. But that doesn't give quite the right impression given how small tarsiers are. |
| 19:07.53 | OluapPlayer | tarsiers |
| 19:08.32 | Ghelae | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarsier |
| 19:08.50 | OluapPlayer | Oh |
| 19:09.08 | OluapPlayer | Looks like an aye-aye |
| 19:10.18 | Monet | Coarlati are psychologically alien to draconis; they're more solitary, they're not keen on company and while Draconis become full-sized at 50 and mature at 40, Coarlati are fuill-sized by 80 but mature by 30. |
| 19:10.53 | Monet | Draocnis lay 5-6 eggs at a time, coarlati only lay about three. |
| 19:11.06 | OluapPlayer | Huh, that thing is closer to monkeys than lemurs |
| 19:11.15 | OluapPlayer | It looks lemur-like though |
| 19:12.29 | *** join/#sporewiki ImpyDroid2 (~Anders@95.140.92.26) |
| 19:14.57 | OluapPlayer | Oh another thing I noticed about this fortress |
| 19:15.07 | OluapPlayer | The map is strangely small |
| 19:15.14 | Monet | Strangely? |
| 19:15.39 | OluapPlayer | Like when I watch streamers play the game, their maps are very large |
| 19:16.02 | OluapPlayer | Mine is only a little bigger than the screen |
| 19:16.06 | ImpyDroid2 | At first when I saw Draconis using non-anthro dragons as symbols, I thought of them being Draconis gorillas |
| 19:16.09 | Monet | You can set the size on embarkation |
| 19:16.38 | Monet | map size* |
| 19:18.31 | Monet | Impydroid: Understandablr. |
| 19:18.41 | *** join/#sporewiki Charles_Murray (ad2e666a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.46.102.106) |
| 19:19.43 | OluapPlayer | Oh another thing. Some of my hunters attacked some emus and got scared |
| 19:20.00 | OluapPlayer | One of them constantly yelled for help while another kept repeating "I must retreat!" |
| 19:20.11 | OluapPlayer | The emus were not even fighting back |
| 19:21.45 | *** join/#sporewiki Imperios (~Imperios@95.140.92.26) |
| 19:21.58 | Hachiman | That's the Emu War in a nutshell |
| 19:22.15 | Hachiman | Australia lost that day |
| 19:23.09 | OluapPlayer | Sometimes I find emu skeletons at the far top of the map and crossbow bolts on the ground |
| 19:24.53 | Monet | The second one could just be your hunters |
| 19:44.37 | Imperios | OluapPlayer Hachiman: Can I add some stuff to the mage type page |
| 19:44.43 | Imperios | blrlgrlg |
| 19:44.51 | OluapPlayer | Mage type page |
| 19:44.53 | Imperios | I mean to the "types of magic users" section on the Source page |
| 19:44.53 | OluapPlayer | What now? |
| 19:45.09 | OluapPlayer | That's Jepardi's work, I have nothing to do with it |
| 19:45.10 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Fantasy_Universe/The_Source#.C2.A0Classification_of_different_magic_users That section |
| 19:45.16 | Imperios | Jepardi then |
| 19:45.57 | Jepardi | Yeah sure |
| 19:46.32 | OluapPlayer | I personally find those a bit too restrictive |
| 19:49.27 | Jepardi | Well I meant it as a general idea in how to differentiate groups dealing with magic |
| 19:49.59 | Hachiman | I am guessing you based that off D&D groupings or |
| 19:50.05 | OluapPlayer | I personally call anyone with fire magic a pyromancer |
| 19:52.00 | Xho | I like it but like Oluap said it's a bit too restrictive on the nomenclature |
| 19:53.56 | Hachiman | Yeah, the nomenclature's a bit eh |
| 19:54.04 | Xho | OluapPlayer Hachiman: https://www.facebook.com/100000026999524/videos/1458975464113339/ my sides |
| 19:54.16 | Hachiman | Dwarven clerics would be electromancers rather than luxomancers |
| 19:54.25 | Hachiman | And that's just one culture |
| 19:54.39 | OluapPlayer | ARF |
| 19:54.48 | Hachiman | BORK |
| 19:55.00 | Xho | STOP FRIEN YOU'RE DOING ME A CONCERN |
| 19:55.18 | Xho | My dog goes on excessive bork all the time |
| 19:55.26 | Xho | It's both funny and concerning |
| 19:55.47 | Hachiman | Put him in jail for bork |
| 19:56.14 | Xho | By those definitions I'm not sure how I would classify Taihadrae really |
| 19:56.32 | OluapPlayer | excessive bork irritates the Oluap |
| 19:56.35 | Xho | Undead woman that gets boned by Skaurovirn but other than that not sure |
| 19:56.37 | OluapPlayer | Hence why cat is gud |
| 19:56.43 | Jepardi | The classification was something I came up one day so of course it can be improved |
| 19:56.45 | Xho | My cat goes on excessive meow as well |
| 19:56.59 | Xho | Then again she's ultra ancient so we just ignore her now |
| 19:57.01 | Hachiman | I would have preferred if you had run it past everyone first |
| 19:57.20 | Xho | Well we all approved of the idea at the time |
| 19:57.28 | Hachiman | I don't think we did |
| 19:57.32 | Xho | we did shup |
| 19:57.33 | Hachiman | Or if we did, I wasn't there |
| 19:57.34 | OluapPlayer | I was not here at the time |
| 19:57.49 | Xho | Eh well we can still expand on it |
| 19:57.50 | Hachiman | So that's two out of the four / five Fantasyverse editors absent |
| 19:57.52 | Jepardi | Yeah not everyone was here back then |
| 19:57.52 | Xho | That page needs more stuff on it |
| 19:58.26 | Hachiman | Like, I would have classified clerics as being people who commune with and borrow power from higher beings in order to cast rather than just people with light magic |
| 19:58.26 | OluapPlayer | Like what? |
| 19:58.35 | OluapPlayer | Sure it can be expanded but I wouldn't know with what |
| 19:59.05 | Xho | Well types of magicians for one |
| 19:59.08 | Xho | Which we already have |
| 19:59.14 | Xho | We just need to globalise the concept |
| 19:59.18 | OluapPlayer | Rabbit out of hat man |
| 19:59.35 | Hachiman | But then all magic on Koldenwelt is linked to Isiris so I suppose most people would be deemed "clerics" in that sense |
| 19:59.40 | Hachiman | Or rather, all native magic |
| 19:59.42 | Xho | Longinus - jesus christ why do i even bother with this shit |
| 19:59.56 | OluapPlayer | Lagosi out of hat if you're so inclined |
| 20:00.02 | Hachiman | Hachi - peep |
| 20:00.54 | Xho | British Disneyland >BRITISH DISNEYLAND |
| 20:00.54 | OluapPlayer | I'd not hardwire such concepts, like you already mentioned cultures would alternate |
| 20:00.57 | Xho | dies inside again |
| 20:01.29 | Hachiman | I thought we did not support anti-Jewish establishments in the UK |
| 20:02.14 | Xho | hoh |
| 20:02.38 | Xho | I guess other things could be like magical artifacts or items, or something I dunno |
| 20:02.59 | Hachiman | That too is too variable |
| 20:03.14 | Xho | Hm |
| 20:03.40 | Xho | List of incantations, magic school they're associated with and their effect |
| 20:03.44 | Xho | That works |
| 20:04.33 | OluapPlayer | Not all cultures use incantations to cast magic |
| 20:04.49 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 20:04.51 | Xho | Okay, incantation - school - culture - effect |
| 20:05.03 | Hachiman | Too many cultures |
| 20:05.05 | Hachiman | Too many effects |
| 20:05.14 | Xho | Hardly |
| 20:05.23 | Xho | All I can think of are Clothovera's hexes so far |
| 20:05.26 | Hachiman | You will be surprised how versatile each of the magic schools can be and how they *will* overlap |
| 20:05.40 | Xho | And the Sand Drake shouts of powa |
| 20:06.15 | Xho | Types of magic casting? |
| 20:06.22 | Xho | Incantation/rune/hex/whatever |
| 20:06.24 | Hachiman | That's a bit more manageable |
| 20:07.02 | Xho | and den list of dem under dem sections wolwololwol |
| 20:07.20 | Hachiman | It's wolololol |
| 20:08.13 | Xho | ~kick Hachiman |
| 20:08.13 | infobot | ACTION kicks Hachiman |
| 20:08.23 | Xho | I was aware |
| 20:10.05 | Xho | One thing about the magic page |
| 20:10.15 | Xho | I've noticed that all the Simulacra/other deities aren't mentioned as patron gods |
| 20:10.26 | Xho | Is that now solely a Koldenweltian thing |
| 20:10.56 | Hachiman | Eh? |
| 20:11.11 | Xho | LOOK AT THE PAGE DAMMIT JESUS CHRIST BUDDHA AND LUCIFER BORK |
| 20:11.18 | Xho | But yeah |
| 20:11.25 | Xho | None of the Simulacra are mentioned |
| 20:11.35 | Xho | Not even Zran Kar under Blood Magic |
| 20:11.43 | OluapPlayer | I removed them because the box was getting too cluttered |
| 20:11.45 | Imperios | Harstag is mentioned |
| 20:11.54 | Hachiman | >Related races |
| 20:12.01 | Hachiman | >Colossi |
| 20:12.02 | Imperios | Right I think the mage type section needs to be remade |
| 20:12.15 | Hachiman | Of course there's gonna be no Simulacra in that table |
| 20:12.25 | Hachiman | Also, it mentions the Simulacra in the Deities section |
| 20:12.33 | Xho | Oh right it mentions Colossi |
| 20:12.41 | Xho | Man this page changes more than I can keep track of |
| 20:12.56 | Xho | Either way I'm going to remove Celestial Magic |
| 20:12.56 | OluapPlayer | I decide to keep it Colossus-only since they're the gods of the magic schools |
| 20:13.01 | Xho | No need for it |
| 20:13.09 | OluapPlayer | I think we don't give the Colossi enough credit |
| 20:13.34 | Hachiman | Except Thunardormir |
| 20:13.44 | Imperios | I think we could separate spellcasters on how exactly they use the Source |
| 20:13.46 | Hachiman | Dwarves draw their runic magic and electromancy from him |
| 20:13.56 | Hachiman | And worship him as a deity |
| 20:14.03 | OluapPlayer | Yeah, one out of 32 |
| 20:14.25 | Xho | most r ded tho |
| 20:14.26 | OluapPlayer | Well, ~30 |
| 20:14.38 | OluapPlayer | At least 16 are still alive |
| 20:14.50 | Xho | Which reminds me, does anyone want Kartansimal |
| 20:14.57 | Xho | I don't have any use for Kartansimal |
| 20:15.17 | OluapPlayer | I'd volunteer but I got plenty of Colossi already |
| 20:15.26 | Hachiman | I would but I got stuff on my plate |
| 20:15.35 | Hachiman | Plus I still need to make Wind Colossi |
| 20:15.53 | Jepardi | I could, seeing as how the Arakai worship him |
| 20:16.04 | Xho | Go ahead then, all yours |
| 20:16.09 | Hachiman | I'm thinking that rocs and griffins could be related to one another, like how wyverns are related to dragons |
| 20:16.14 | Imperios | Make him a brober ebin golossus |
| 20:16.18 | Imperios | :DDDD |
| 20:16.20 | Hachiman | XDDDD |
| 20:16.33 | Hachiman | big benis |
| 20:17.05 | OluapPlayer | fug |
| 20:17.12 | Xho | Storm Elementals...hm |
| 20:17.14 | Imperios | We trust in you, Finn :DDDD |
| 20:17.32 | Imperios | Anyway as for the spellcaster types |
| 20:17.32 | OluapPlayer | A good way to make him hate us all right there |
| 20:17.44 | Jepardi | plz |
| 20:18.06 | Imperios | I personally separated Imperial mages on the lines of how exactly they cast spells, as opposed to what spells they cast |
| 20:18.20 | Hachiman | That's how I would go about it |
| 20:18.33 | Jepardi | Yeah it sounds better |
| 20:18.43 | Xho | runes pls |
| 20:18.46 | Hachiman | There should also be a note about 'antimancers' |
| 20:18.46 | Hachiman | As in, anti-magic |
| 20:18.48 | Imperios | Valdemar casts magic by invoking mental formulae in his mind |
| 20:18.51 | Hachiman | Like the Derevar |
| 20:19.17 | Xho | "Antimagic is a magic school onto itself" http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/c_limit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_680/krabs_rag3do.jpg |
| 20:19.42 | Xho | Makes me wonder whether others can learn anti-magic |
| 20:19.50 | Imperios | Xho: Anti-magic is magic |
| 20:19.54 | Imperios | The same way atheism is a religion |
| 20:19.57 | OluapPlayer | Anti-magic implies a lack of the Source |
| 20:19.58 | Imperios | :DDDD |
| 20:20.02 | Hachiman | >atheism is a religion |
| 20:20.04 | Hachiman | #TRIGGERED |
| 20:20.25 | Imperios | I am joking at the moment hur |
| 20:20.28 | Xho | Might wanna niche the term then because that could refer to void magic and primal magic as well |
| 20:20.32 | OluapPlayer | I had Zarmagahla do some anti-magic thing back in Angry Moon since I assumed that was a thing Void monsters could do |
| 20:20.36 | Imperios | Though the argument can be said that atheism is a belief but I rather won't go here |
| 20:20.41 | Hachiman | There is a difference between a system of belief and an outright religion |
| 20:20.42 | Imperios | *there |
| 20:20.53 | OluapPlayer | can u not |
| 20:20.55 | Imperios | Yeah atheism is more of a belief |
| 20:21.01 | OluapPlayer | Back on topic please |
| 20:21.07 | Imperios | A system of belief is the best way to describe it |
| 20:21.08 | Imperios | Now anyway |
| 20:21.11 | Xho | Void magic is technically an anti-magic since it is a magical type absent of Isiris' influence |
| 20:21.17 | Xho | So it fucks other magic over |
| 20:21.23 | OluapPlayer | So is primate magic |
| 20:21.24 | Imperios | So I also have Carlini who uses her body's inner magic |
| 20:21.27 | Xho | sà |
| 20:21.40 | Imperios | And controls it using gestures and magic karate a la the Last Airbender |
| 20:21.45 | Xho | Although sun magic fucks every other magic over because DOUBLE SUN POWER |
| 20:21.49 | Hachiman | >magic karate |
| 20:21.50 | Imperios | I called that magic "thaumaturgy" |
| 20:21.53 | Hachiman | You mean tai chi |
| 20:22.21 | Imperios | i no speak your gibberish ugly language |
| 20:22.27 | Imperios | mandarin worst language |
| 20:22.31 | Xho | ouch |
| 20:22.48 | Hachiman | SAYS THE ONE WHO SPEAKS IN UPSIDE DOWN LETTERS |
| 20:22.52 | Xho | double ouch |
| 20:23.04 | Imperios | It's not us who use upside down Latin |
| 20:23.10 | Imperios | YOU use upside down Cyrillic |
| 20:23.14 | OluapPlayer | Most of my magic users cast their spells either by using a staff or with their bare hands |
| 20:24.42 | Imperios | Right so I wonder if there are any other mages on Koldenwelt who use their inner energy/magic karate |
| 20:24.53 | Xho | All of mine do with their bare hands usually |
| 20:25.06 | OluapPlayer | Or in the case of big scary toothed people, breath weapons |
| 20:25.11 | Xho | Except Khaadun who uses incantations to use heavenly storm magic |
| 20:25.17 | Xho | Although it's not storm magic |
| 20:25.20 | Xho | More like thunder magic |
| 20:25.41 | Hachiman | Aithrena can probably cast umbramancy through their inner energy but have to use different means with other schools |
| 20:25.43 | Imperios | Don't Sand Drakes shout spells Skyrim-style |
| 20:25.47 | Hachiman | Like catalysts and runes and whatnot |
| 20:25.51 | OluapPlayer | Not anymore |
| 20:25.56 | OluapPlayer | I've retconned that out |
| 20:26.00 | Imperios | Clothovera uses a book |
| 20:26.04 | Imperios | I guess that's another form of magic |
| 20:26.09 | Hachiman | Used |
| 20:26.13 | Imperios | or rather spellcasting |
| 20:26.14 | Imperios | yes used |
| 20:26.15 | OluapPlayer | However they are still able to breath out arcane blasts of force |
| 20:26.23 | Xho | Taihadrae's probably the only character of mine who uses more than just hand-woven magic, as she's an educated umbramancer |
| 20:26.41 | OluapPlayer | That reminds me, should probably rename thunder magic to lightning magic too |
| 20:26.48 | OluapPlayer | Since that's the actual electric part of the thing |
| 20:26.52 | Hachiman | Yeah that'd be more accurate |
| 20:26.53 | OluapPlayer | Thunder is just the noise it makes |
| 20:27.02 | Ghelae | Is the idea behind a mage using a magical catalyst that they have their own power, but require an external object for them to access it? |
| 20:27.03 | Xho | Khaadun - *boom* dammit |
| 20:27.21 | OluapPlayer | That's how I see it, yes |
| 20:27.49 | Imperios | Okay so that's another form of spellcasting |
| 20:27.52 | Imperios | How would we call it? |
| 20:27.58 | Imperios | "Thingcasting?" |
| 20:27.59 | OluapPlayer | Magic hur |
| 20:28.00 | Xho | Catalytic converters |
| 20:28.01 | Xho | wait |
| 20:28.01 | Ghelae | Meanwhile, things like runes and incantations: is that similar, or is that entirely from an external source of magic? |
| 20:28.09 | Hachiman | Runes are iffy |
| 20:28.15 | OluapPlayer | Runes seem to external from my understanding |
| 20:28.21 | Hachiman | Dwarven runes draw power from Thunardormir |
| 20:28.25 | Hachiman | But not all runes do that |
| 20:28.26 | OluapPlayer | Magic is stored in the runes and not from the person |
| 20:28.37 | Xho | I would've thought runes are a written kind of incantation |
| 20:28.39 | Imperios | Hm |
| 20:28.41 | Xho | So not an incantation really |
| 20:28.44 | Xho | More like a rune |
| 20:28.46 | Xho | c |
| 20:28.46 | Imperios | So it'd be another form of magic |
| 20:28.47 | OluapPlayer | dur |
| 20:29.09 | Hachiman | Dwarves cast through runes / tattoos, Hachi casts ZA WARUDO through his inner energy although channels it through his wooden arm as some form of effect amplifier or something |
| 20:29.27 | OluapPlayer | Sea Witch squishes water from her palms |
| 20:29.32 | Hachiman | Even though it's not really ZA WARUDO because we have not seen him stop time yet |
| 20:29.39 | Ghelae | So three basic overarching categories are intrinsic magic, intrinsic but catalysed, and extrinsic magic. I could imagine each of these having a huge potential number of actual methods. |
| 20:29.42 | OluapPlayer | ur gay animu is shit |
| 20:29.48 | Xho | Are runes solely used by dwarves because I would've thought there's also those magic-circle thingies |
| 20:29.53 | Hachiman | They're not |
| 20:29.55 | Xho | Which are runic sorta |
| 20:30.08 | OluapPlayer | Vampire gargoyles are given life through runes |
| 20:30.10 | Imperios | So a person can access magic using runes, which in turn can derive power either from another entity (like Colossus), their inherent magical shape, or being drawn with some inherently magical material |
| 20:30.12 | Hachiman | Thunardormir taught runes to the dwarves but no, runic magic is not exclusive to them |
| 20:30.16 | Ghelae | "Magic-circle thingies"? Do you mean sigils...? |
| 20:30.19 | Xho | That's the one |
| 20:30.27 | Xho | Annoying because I've used the term before |
| 20:30.44 | Ghelae | Sigils and runes are similar in that they're both symbols used for accessing magical power. |
| 20:31.07 | Ghelae | Imperios: I suppose gthat |
| 20:31.18 | Ghelae | that's a further division of extrinsic magic* |
| 20:31.52 | Imperios | That could be extrapolated on intrinsic magic too |
| 20:31.57 | Ghelae | Extrinsic magic from a supernatural being, extrinsic magic from a supernatural material, and extrinsic magic from a supernatural shape. |
| 20:31.59 | Hachiman | So |
| 20:32.04 | Hachiman | Where do familiars fit into this |
| 20:32.16 | Hachiman | I get that they're an extension of a person's soul or inner magic or something |
| 20:32.16 | OluapPlayer | They meow |
| 20:32.19 | Xho | I'd say intrinsic personally |
| 20:32.24 | Hachiman | Not all familiars are cats u dum shi |
| 20:32.28 | OluapPlayer | Nyakik is an extension of Clotho's soul |
| 20:32.35 | Imperios | So basically we have magic derived from formulas (Clotho, Valdemar, runes deriving power from shape), inner energy (Hachi, Carlini), or a foreign entity |
| 20:32.44 | Imperios | Or they can just be natural |
| 20:32.52 | Xho | I did have the idea of Khaadun having a familiar but considering Khaadun's a battlemage by definition I scrapped it |
| 20:33.05 | Xho | It was going to be a dire wolf to some effect |
| 20:33.16 | OluapPlayer | Felvinus is part of Damon's soul and Astarak the Black was a part of Clotholaire's |
| 20:33.45 | Xho | I might bring back the idea as if the dire wolf is a spectre summoned from Khaadun's armour |
| 20:33.55 | Xho | Possibly an avatar of Nalashtannylor |
| 20:34.00 | Hachiman | I wonder if the state and ability of a familiar is to do with age or general innate magical power or whatever |
| 20:34.04 | Hachiman | Probably some combo of both |
| 20:34.17 | OluapPlayer | As far as Clotho's concerned, the latter |
| 20:34.20 | Ghelae | So familiar magic and catalysed magic may be two subtypes of intrinsic magic. |
| 20:34.21 | OluapPlayer | It's listed on Nyakik's page |
| 20:34.40 | Hachiman | So yeah, familiars are extensions of the soul / innate magic of a person |
| 20:35.02 | Xho | Taihadrae's familiar = Esulus |
| 20:35.09 | OluapPlayer | That's why she's a bratty cat when Clotho is a noob and a huge white Nargacuga when Clotho's an expert |
| 20:35.23 | Hachiman | And I imagine some can be drawn out manually while other familiars materialize themselves into existence over time |
| 20:35.47 | Xho | OluapPlayer: My friend just linked me Jarl Ballin' |
| 20:35.49 | Hachiman | Like, some need to be activated / created, others are just born |
| 20:36.01 | OluapPlayer | I am LOOOOOOOORD of the rings |
| 20:36.29 | OluapPlayer | Nyakik was born with Clotho. All of the Moirai family's familiars were born with their masters |
| 20:36.33 | Hachiman | Ah |
| 20:36.56 | Xho | "How did Three-Dog get in there" |
| 20:37.12 | Hachiman | For some reason I thought Nyakik was created by one of Clotho's parents or something through soul-meddling |
| 20:37.43 | OluapPlayer | Well Clotho's mom summoned her into existence when she was born |
| 20:38.02 | Hachiman | dats soul-meddlin u dumkoff |
| 20:38.05 | OluapPlayer | Otherwise she'd have given birth to a cat and that'd be really weird |
| 20:38.12 | Ghelae | I was about to ask. |
| 20:38.12 | Imperios | I think familiar-creating is just a unique semi-unconscious spell |
| 20:38.18 | Imperios | Rather than a branch of magic on its own |
| 20:38.47 | Hachiman | When I said born, I mean like, just coming into existence by itself without having to be meddled into life |
| 20:39.05 | Hachiman | Doesn't have to be when a spellcaster is like born specifically |
| 20:39.09 | Ghelae | Imperios: Couldn't all kinds of intrinsic magic be thought of in that way? |
| 20:40.13 | Ghelae | Some methods aren't unconscious, but they're all still the magic-user finding some way to utilise their own power. |
| 20:40.21 | Imperios | Right |
| 20:40.42 | Hachiman | Clotho should really learn how to make use of Nyakik for practical application |
| 20:41.10 | Hachiman | Like a back-scratcher kek |
| 20:41.30 | OluapPlayer | Throw at Hachi so she murders his face |
| 20:42.55 | Wormy_away | Would synchronicity magic be extrinsic? It is usually defined as acausal meaning, but often interpreted as karmic or controlled by supervienient meanings. I.e. The Earth Coincidence Control Office |
| 20:43.18 | Hachiman | Synchronicity magic? |
| 20:43.29 | Ghelae | Synchronicity would probably be a certain type of extrinsic magic by symbolism. |
| 20:43.38 | Wormy_away | Though I think the modern view is that synchronicity meanings are attatched in the mind's search for order only |
| 20:44.15 | Ghelae | So the same kind of thing as runes whose shape makes them magical, but instead it's events whose [something] makes them magical. |
| 20:44.26 | Wormy_away | Hachiman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronicity http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/UFOs/Gorightly.htm |
| 20:45.35 | OluapPlayer | I don't get how this relates to the fantasyverse |
| 20:45.43 | Hachiman | I need layman's terms |
| 20:45.57 | Ghelae | It isn't something that's been used in the fantasyverse at all. |
| 20:46.32 | Ghelae | Although I'm sure it's something Wormy would want to include if he did anything in it. |
| 20:46.38 | Wormy_away | It's subtle magic, rarely used in fiction. Especially those dominated by alchemypunk. |
| 20:46.53 | OluapPlayer | I don't really get it either |
| 20:47.18 | Wormy_away | Indeed, I've mentioned it with elemental energy |
| 20:47.21 | Ghelae | Synchronicity is basically "things happening cause similar things to happen". Or magic-induced coincidence. |
| 20:47.50 | OluapPlayer | Eh |
| 20:47.59 | OluapPlayer | Yeah I don't see how this would relate to the setting |
| 20:48.58 | Imperios | Monet: How do you call the triangular roof thing used in Classical architure |
| 20:49.01 | Imperios | *architecture |
| 20:49.21 | Monet | Crap, name's slipped my mind |
| 20:49.28 | Xho | Er |
| 20:49.30 | Xho | I know this |
| 20:49.34 | OluapPlayer | illuminati confirmation |
| 20:49.43 | Xho | Pediment |
| 20:49.44 | Xho | That's it |
| 20:50.09 | Imperios | Thanks |
| 20:50.37 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: B-b-b-but pediments are older than Illuminati |
| 20:50.43 | Xho | Studied classical architecture at college mwahahahahaha |
| 20:50.46 | Wormy_away | Woops, looks like I threw in a load of concepts and references probably only a couple of users have discussed with me and distracted the conversation. Apologies. |
| 20:50.51 | Ghelae | The more general idea behind synchronicity is probably how spell-casting works in the first place. By saying some magic words or writing some runes or thinking some magical thoughts, you induce something symbolically similar to occur. |
| 20:51.09 | OluapPlayer | But isn't that just normal magic? |
| 20:51.09 | Ghelae | But synchronicity as it commonly means... isn't something that seems to happen on Koldenwelt. |
| 20:51.18 | Xho | When I say classical architecture it was mostly Greek temples |
| 20:51.37 | Wormy_away | Synchronicity and rune magic seem to be subsets of sympathetic magic, am I right? |
| 20:51.45 | Ghelae | Yes. |
| 20:51.55 | Ghelae | To both Oluap and Wormy. |
| 20:52.51 | Wormy_away | The way synchronous magic could be applied in a Fantasy setting might be some shaman entering a magical state of consciousness and percieving, or be led by nature or something beyond nature to a pattern or theme. |
| 20:53.06 | Wormy_away | *perceiving |
| 20:53.16 | Ghelae | Also, although it's fairly obvious, alchemy hasn't actually come up yet (except for Wormy's mention of "alchemypunk"). That seems to be a major form of extrinsic magic. |
| 20:53.21 | Xho | Hachiman: Franku's newest video has 100,000 likes to 1,000 dislikes |
| 20:53.30 | Ghelae | come up in this discussion yet* |
| 20:53.35 | Xho | Something's horrendously wrong with the universe |
| 20:53.57 | OluapPlayer | cus filthy frank is cancerrrr |
| 20:54.03 | Wormy_away | My definition of alchemypunk refers to how magic in Harry Potter looks like chemistry you'd expect from the 1500's |
| 20:54.08 | Xho | And he knows it kek |
| 20:54.21 | Wormy_away | And seems to be the most common magic portrayed |
| 20:54.23 | Xho | "That watermelon frank dodged would've probably fucking ko'd him." "cancer is pretty hard to kill ya know" |
| 20:54.30 | Hachiman | olol |
| 20:54.43 | Wormy_away | Hence it makes it almost retro-technological, except that it works as magic in the setting. |
| 20:54.52 | OluapPlayer | When we got plenty of it |
| 20:54.52 | OluapPlayer | For a moment I thought you meant we had no alchemy in the setting yet |
| 20:55.10 | OluapPlayer | But yeah that's one kind of magic |
| 20:55.12 | Xho | HOOO |
| 20:55.56 | Xho | How many alchemists do we have in the setting |
| 20:56.00 | Xho | I can only think of two |
| 20:56.03 | OluapPlayer | The entire Klaxxa race |
| 20:56.05 | OluapPlayer | and Szalvetha |
| 20:56.08 | Wormy_away | It's funny because taking a deep look at alchemy one finds concepts that relate more to extrinsic magic, like Ghelae said: synchronicities, archetypes, life forces, "Like effects like" |
| 20:56.18 | Xho | Okay three then |
| 20:56.50 | Xho | I dunno whether I could expand on Dalmiric alchemy |
| 20:56.55 | Xho | That's some real illegal shit going on there |
| 20:57.07 | Ghelae | Wormy_away: That all comes down to where the ideas of magic (including alchemy) came from in real life. Remember, it's all basically strong emergence. |
| 20:57.16 | Wormy_away | Indeed |
| 20:57.18 | OluapPlayer | Why would it be illegal? |
| 20:57.25 | OluapPlayer | It's just casting magic with potions |
| 20:57.27 | Xho | Umbramantic alchemy |
| 20:57.45 | OluapPlayer | They should make umbramancy illegal then, not potions |
| 20:57.55 | Hachiman | Szalvetha throws fucking toxic substances and acid at people |
| 20:57.59 | Xho | They've tried but they can't catch the perpetrators :v |
| 20:58.06 | Hachiman | And probably a whole other array of alchemical substances |
| 20:58.15 | OluapPlayer | Yeah but Szalvetha is amoral |
| 20:58.33 | Hachiman | inb4 there is one that makes someone go Hulkamania when they drink it |
| 20:58.41 | OluapPlayer | BROTHER |
| 20:58.48 | Xho | Damon - jesus christ clotho |
| 20:59.04 | OluapPlayer | Clotho doesn't use alchemy u dumbo |
| 20:59.34 | Xho | Well you said BROTHER so I took the opportunity |
| 20:59.41 | OluapPlayer | Oh |
| 20:59.42 | OluapPlayer | fug |
| 20:59.49 | Xho | Clothomania |
| 20:59.53 | Xho | Let's not do that k thnx |
| 20:59.58 | Hachiman | Hachi - no pls |
| 21:00.05 | OluapPlayer | That's when the Aether Emerald goes active |
| 21:00.09 | Hachiman | Damon is actually Macho Man |
| 21:00.27 | OluapPlayer | Damon - will slap vhalra into a slim jim |
| 21:01.03 | Xho | I was having the idea of having an armour and weapons page for Koldenwelt, but that's a very wide categoty |
| 21:01.07 | Xho | category even |
| 21:01.11 | Xho | I might just do it for my own stuff |
| 21:01.19 | Wormy_away | My own view of synchronicity is more like the sceptical view, but with less dismissal. It is indeed our minds that are attaching meanings, but then the question is, why and what for? What is it about surnames and car types that my mind is latching onto. Is it random? Can it be useful (I notice synchronicies that relate to sources of work sometimes)? |
| 21:01.32 | OluapPlayer | sord, sord, sord, slightly bigger sord, slightly smaller sord, very big sord, hammer |
| 21:01.33 | Wormy_away | etc. |
| 21:01.41 | Xho | Mhor - yes |
| 21:02.40 | Ghelae | Wormy_away: Of course finding patterns in things can be useful; that's why we evolved it. But it also often isn't useful, again for reasons of "it's better to assume danger and be wrong than to not assume danger and be wrong". |
| 21:03.09 | Ghelae | I remember there was also the idea of having a page on the different types of material in Koldenwelt. |
| 21:03.36 | Xho | Eh that could wor |
| 21:03.38 | Xho | work |
| 21:03.41 | Wormy_away | Fair enough, many patterns like the Martian canals and Face of Mars are examples of fictional order that our perceptions pick out on. |
| 21:04.58 | Wormy_away | *pick out" should be "produce", since the images are mindstuff |
| 21:05.19 | Xho | The only things I can think of that are of particular note are Dragon's Scales, Dragon's Bones, Darkstone, Meteorite Metal and Aurelian Platinum |
| 21:06.06 | Xho | There's also Adravaelic Steel and whatever metal the Skaurovirn harness, probably an arcanised metal |
| 21:06.24 | Xho | why am i the only one seemingly coming up with materials |
| 21:06.50 | OluapPlayer | Wait are we talking about ores now |
| 21:07.01 | Xho | Materials in general but yeah |
| 21:07.13 | OluapPlayer | I got Demon Crystal, Hachi has Adamantine |
| 21:07.50 | Xho | ah |
| 21:08.17 | OluapPlayer | Demon Crystal is Darkstone minus the OP, Adamantine is anti-magic metal |
| 21:08.46 | Xho | So Dragon's Scales, Dragon's Bones, Darkstone, Meteorite Metal, Aurelian Platinum, Adravaelic Steel, Demon Crystal, Adamantine and whatever metal the Skaurovirn use |
| 21:08.50 | Xho | Need to come up with a name for it |
| 21:08.54 | Xho | inb4 dai metal |
| 21:08.57 | OluapPlayer | dum metal |
| 21:09.01 | Xho | Very very close |
| 21:09.05 | OluapPlayer | 1/3 clsoe |
| 21:09.05 | Wormy_away | Looks like plenty of people believe in ECCO. Modern day concepts of magic merely morph into transhumanism and aliens https://www.reddit.com/r/Psychonaut/comments/2dhhxn/earth_coincidence_control_office/ |
| 21:09.51 | OluapPlayer | There'd be more generic stuff too like Cold Iron which is mythologically the best weapon against fairies |
| 21:10.04 | Wormy_away | The apparent procedures to live by ECCO http://www.whale.to/b/ecco_h.html |
| 21:10.09 | Hachiman | I reckon cold iron is like a poor man's adamantine |
| 21:10.21 | Hachiman | Or rather, the modern substitute for it |
| 21:10.36 | Hachiman | Easier to produce but not as effective# |
| 21:11.36 | Xho | I did have an idea that the heroes of Dar-Nahalant were going to have Aurelian Platinum weapons but the idea never took off |
| 21:12.12 | OluapPlayer | They'll need something to fight what they're meant to fight |
| 21:12.26 | OluapPlayer | I had to buff the team so they'd stand a chance against Atrocius |
| 21:12.44 | Xho | Pelagrios - good buff terrifying still |
| 21:15.04 | Ghelae | Is orichalcum a metal too, or just Elves and an Age? |
| 21:15.16 | Hachiman | I thought it was a metal |
| 21:15.19 | Xho | I suppose so |
| 21:15.40 | Xho | Ironically the Orichalcum Elves didn't really use Orichalcum |
| 21:16.29 | OluapPlayer | Orichalcum-but-not-really Elves |
| 21:16.43 | Xho | Longinus - this is why i say aurelian #mortals |
| 21:16.57 | OluapPlayer | Norrigan - mor like heretic |
| 21:17.56 | Xho | The definition of them being Orichalcum Elves is because their name in their original tongue is what the word 'Orichalcum' was derived from |
| 21:17.59 | Xho | In Koldenweltian terms |
| 21:19.31 | Xho | It just kind of bastardized itself in Old Tongue and then boom Common Tongue |
| 21:20.12 | Ghelae | So did they just decorate their stuff with gold instead? |
| 21:20.17 | Xho | I guess so |
| 21:21.05 | Imperios | Xho: I also have Shadow Cobalt and Obsinite |
| 21:21.28 | Imperios | Shadow cobalt is the metal Ordnung used, obsinite is the metal Klaxxa used |
| 21:21.35 | Imperios | That resembles obsidian that is |
| 21:21.39 | Imperios | ...Come to think about it |
| 21:21.44 | Imperios | Let's make them the same thing |
| 21:21.48 | Hachiman | Shadow the Cobalt |
| 21:21.53 | Xho | NOTHING PERSONNEL KID |
| 21:22.06 | *** join/#sporewiki Halopediaman (Halopediam@96.42.123.189) |
| 21:22.28 | Imperios | Hachiman: Also known as the donut steel |
| 21:22.33 | Hachiman | olol |
| 21:22.34 | Halopediaman | Hmm, no Drodo. ZF101 may do however. |
| 21:22.39 | Xho | 10/10 best pun |
| 21:22.48 | OluapPlayer | kek |
| 21:23.09 | ZF101 | Wut? |
| 21:23.09 | Imperios | Better yet, shadow cobalt is the real thing the Ordnung used in the Old Age and continue to reuse now |
| 21:23.26 | Imperios | While obsinite is a watered down version of it - basically an ore that contains only a little bit of shadow cobalt |
| 21:24.21 | Halopediaman | Now that I know you're here you've activated my PM card |
| 21:24.29 | Xho | Obsidian's one of the materials the Néva use, alongside dragon bone/scales |
| 21:24.40 | Imperios | Obsinite I presume would be very weird obsidian |
| 21:24.47 | Hachiman | Don't Freelanders use obsidian |
| 21:24.49 | Xho | In turn it's a material attributed to Nalashtannylor because PRAISE THE NIGHT |
| 21:24.49 | Ghelae | So we have lots of metals, obsidian, Demon Crystal, Darkstone, and assorted dragon's parts. |
| 21:24.51 | Imperios | Basically obsidian withe metal-like properties |
| 21:24.58 | Imperios | Hachiman: Yeah they do I believe |
| 21:25.05 | Imperios | Obsidian and copper/bronze |
| 21:25.26 | Xho | Obviously not just Nalashtannylor but one of the materials |
| 21:25.29 | Imperios | Hm |
| 21:25.37 | *** join/#sporewiki ImpyDroid (~Anders@95.140.92.26) |
| 21:25.49 | Imperios | Wormy_away Ghelae: I know that cobalt was named after kobolds because of its dangerous nature, but what exactly makes it dangerous?: |
| 21:25.52 | Xho | Silver, lapis lazuli, malachite, emerald, bone and hematite are the others from what I've listed |
| 21:25.58 | Xho | So I guess common minerals exist as well |
| 21:26.16 | Xho | Which makes me wonder |
| 21:26.19 | ImpyDroid | Freelanders also use iron but they do not produce it |
| 21:26.21 | OluapPlayer | Every real material logically exists in Koldenwelt |
| 21:26.27 | ImpyDroid | They just buy it |
| 21:26.29 | ZF101 | Bye bye all. |
| 21:26.37 | Xho | Perhaps certain metals and minerals have alchemical properities affiliated with a certain magic school |
| 21:26.49 | Xho | I guess that's how it works naturally |
| 21:26.54 | Wormy_away | Imperios: Cobalt is often found in arsenic ores |
| 21:26.58 | Halopediaman | He always has to go when I PM him. ;_; |
| 21:27.22 | Hachiman | Plastic might not exist in Koldenwelt |
| 21:27.25 | Xho | I don't know much about alchemy other than 'mix shit for magic' |
| 21:27.26 | Hachiman | Or rubber |
| 21:27.51 | Wormy_away | It's not that dangerous to handle, I have both colbaltine and arsenite. But I wouldn't want to work in conditions exposed to a lot of that material everyday |
| 21:27.53 | Hachiman | Or flubber |
| 21:28.20 | Ghelae | Plastic, in the sense of processed oils, probably doesn't exist. Natural rubber might exist, but the stuff we're used to is reacted with sulfur to make it stronger and longer-lasting, and that might also be absent. |
| 21:29.00 | Ghelae | Xho: Poisonous minerals would be associated with venomancy. Flammable ones with pyromancy. |
| 21:29.05 | Wormy_away | *colbaltite |
| 21:29.24 | Ghelae | Generic ones with geomancy. |
| 21:29.37 | ImpyDroid | Natural rubber should exist |
| 21:29.40 | Hachiman | I associate oil with geomancy |
| 21:29.48 | Xho | OH GOD NO NOT THIS DISCUSSION AGAIN |
| 21:29.49 | OluapPlayer | Ainsleymancy |
| 21:29.49 | Xho | NO |
| 21:30.01 | OluapPlayer | give ur meat |
| 21:30.04 | Hachiman | It should be the only liquid geomancers should control |
| 21:30.06 | Xho | i am meat |
| 21:30.12 | Wormy_away | NathanExplosionNOOOmancy |
| 21:30.15 | Hachiman | If I recall, the stuff we use is synthetic rubber, which is more efficient and easier to market than actual natural rubber |
| 21:30.16 | ImpyDroid | Freelanders have their ball game, which is played with a rubber ball as per Mesoamericsn tradition |
| 21:30.34 | Xho | Sure it isn't just pig's bladder |
| 21:30.39 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: What about grease |
| 21:30.40 | Hachiman | I was gonna say |
| 21:30.42 | Ghelae | Hachiman: Yes, because of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulcanization |
| 21:30.44 | OluapPlayer | PIG ASS |
| 21:30.45 | Hachiman | Grease is oil |
| 21:30.55 | ImpyDroid | Wait it is |
| 21:31.01 | Hachiman | I think it is |
| 21:31.02 | ImpyDroid | Pretty sure it is not |
| 21:31.20 | ImpyDroid | Wait let me check the definition of grease |
| 21:31.32 | Hachiman | Oh wait, it's a lubricant |
| 21:31.37 | OluapPlayer | What Hachi is always coated in |
| 21:31.37 | Hachiman | It's Hachimancy |
| 21:31.42 | OluapPlayer | c |
| 21:31.46 | Hachiman | ayy lmao |
| 21:31.55 | ImpyDroid | I meant dirt |
| 21:31.55 | Wormy_away | There ought to be copromancy. I mean who want to even go near a coproalchemist? Let alone duel one. Unless you are another copromancist. |
| 21:32.02 | ImpyDroid | The more liquid kind of dirt |
| 21:32.05 | Hachiman | Copromancy |
| 21:32.07 | Hachiman | As in |
| 21:32.08 | Ghelae | ImpyDroid: Mud? |
| 21:32.10 | OluapPlayer | What would copro be |
| 21:32.11 | Hachiman | Literal shit |
| 21:32.16 | ImpyDroid | Yes mud |
| 21:32.19 | Wormy_away | Literal shit, yes. |
| 21:32.29 | OluapPlayer | Poop is non elemental |
| 21:32.33 | OluapPlayer | Arcane, flora at most |
| 21:32.34 | Hachiman | I... do not know where that would fall |
| 21:32.39 | Hachiman | I mean, it could come under hemomancy |
| 21:32.46 | Hachiman | Shit is a natural bodily substance after all |
| 21:32.49 | OluapPlayer | Poop is not blood |
| 21:32.50 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Periodmancy |
| 21:32.52 | ImpyDroid | Could work |
| 21:32.54 | OluapPlayer | If you're healthy at least |
| 21:32.55 | Ghelae | If your copromancy comes under hemomancy you need to see a doctor. |
| 21:32.56 | Hachiman | OluapPlayer: Neither is flesh |
| 21:32.58 | Wormy_away | There could be a race of Dung Beetle people who practise it |
| 21:33.02 | Hachiman | But hemomancy controls flesh hur |
| 21:33.04 | Xho | "#mortals" - Zran Kar |
| 21:33.14 | OluapPlayer | ur poop |
| 21:33.16 | Ghelae | If your copromancy is left for a few months then it becomes floramancy. |
| 21:33.16 | OluapPlayer | ur all poop |
| 21:33.16 | ImpyDroid | Anyway yes |
| 21:33.26 | ImpyDroid | Would geomancers control mud |
| 21:33.30 | Hachiman | I think so |
| 21:33.36 | Xho | Mudmancers |
| 21:33.38 | Hachiman | But it depends on the consistency of mud |
| 21:33.42 | OluapPlayer | Mud is wet earth |
| 21:33.52 | Xho | Mud wrestling-mancy, strange underground magic sport in Koldenwelt |
| 21:33.52 | OluapPlayer | The Mudpriest controls mud by combining geo and hydromancy |
| 21:34.00 | Hachiman | So either hydromancers or geomancers can use it |
| 21:34.17 | OluapPlayer | I just said it |
| 21:34.23 | Hachiman | Yeah you ninja'd me |
| 21:34.25 | Hachiman | u fukn fagit |
| 21:34.28 | Hachiman | weaboo cunt |
| 21:34.36 | OluapPlayer | >imblign |
| 21:34.42 | Xho | NOTICE ME HACHI-SAN |
| 21:34.54 | Hachiman | "Fuck off cunt" - Hachi-san |
| 21:35.00 | OluapPlayer | #rude |
| 21:35.08 | Xho | "batsu" - Xho |
| 21:35.22 | Xho | Oh great I made myself laugh there |
| 21:35.27 | Hachiman | "Ore wa ochinchin ga daisuke nandayo" - Hachi |
| 21:35.34 | Xho | "batsu" - Xho |
| 21:35.35 | OluapPlayer | enuff of dis |
| 21:35.47 | Hachiman | That is like the only fluent Japanese sentence I know |
| 21:35.54 | Xho | too much franku |
| 21:36.22 | Ghelae | Hemomancy as control of animal matter versus floramancy as control of plant matter does seem reasonable, though. Perhaps if the name came about because people were creeped out by all the use of blood and didn't pay attention to all of the other stuff being done with it. |
| 21:36.46 | Hachiman | I envisioned floramancy being capable of manipulating insects |
| 21:37.05 | OluapPlayer | BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES |
| 21:37.29 | Hachiman | Probably through stuff like pheromomal magic or something rather than outright mind control |
| 21:37.50 | Xho | I have the compulsion to make a race of humanoid bees |
| 21:37.54 | Ghelae | Controlling insects by making them smell flowers. |
| 21:38.12 | Xho | Although that's basically a Kytinn expy |
| 21:38.15 | Hachiman | I imagine the most dangerous spellcaster would be a hemomancer because he would have the power to make someone else lose bowel control non-stop |
| 21:38.24 | ImpyDroid | Xho: The Worm that Walks except bee |
| 21:38.54 | Ghelae | Somebody did add bee people to the fantasyverse, but they aren't humanoid bee people. |
| 21:39.18 | ImpyDroid | (the worm that walks is basically a mass of worms in form of a person) |
| 21:39.20 | ImpyDroid | https://40.media.tumblr.com/a12820dd12e6d0c21116d901f09ebfde/tumblr_nkekw5U3io1uo7q52o1_500.jpg |
| 21:39.27 | Xho | D'Vorah is fucking creepy as fuck |
| 21:39.57 | Hachiman | The hemomancer's power would work in that the main protagonists of the Fantasyverse would be too ashamed to carry on fighting and cannot be written being in such an embarrassing situation |
| 21:40.19 | Hachiman | The only way they could be beaten is if they were confronted by someone who had no shame |
| 21:40.21 | OluapPlayer | You should be embarrassed of what you're going on, that's wht |
| 21:40.28 | OluapPlayer | what |
| 21:40.40 | OluapPlayer | And for not doing what I asked you do |
| 21:40.44 | Hachiman | fug |
| 21:41.25 | Ghelae | ImpyDroid: A quick look at TVTropes' "The Worm That Walks" page does indeed give one made of bees: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swarm_%28comics%29 |
| 21:41.47 | Hachiman | "The character has been depicted as a former Nazi sympathizer and has been mainly featured as an enemy of Spider-Man. His entire body is composed of bees surrounding his skeleton." |
| 21:42.05 | OluapPlayer | Spider vs bees |
| 21:42.19 | Hachiman | Sting the Jews |
| 21:42.30 | OluapPlayer | wat |
| 21:42.34 | OluapPlayer | Oh Nazi |
| 21:42.36 | OluapPlayer | Okay |
| 21:42.39 | ImpyDroid | Nazi bee |
| 21:43.10 | Ghelae | There are quite a few other examples, too, but none of them seem to be Nazi skeletons. |
| 21:44.00 | OluapPlayer | Skeletons are truly the most vile creatures in the world |
| 21:44.44 | Hachiman | What about a Nazi skeleton surrounded by skeleton bees |
| 21:44.48 | Xho | y u |
| 21:45.11 | OluapPlayer | Bees don't have skeletons tho |
| 21:45.12 | Ghelae | skeleton bees |
| 21:45.20 | ImpyDroid | Wouldn't that be just bee carcasses |
| 21:45.55 | Hachiman | That reminds me; somebody posted the entirety of Bee Movie on Pornhub |
| 21:46.08 | OluapPlayer | IT'S HIP TO FUCK BEES |
| 21:46.17 | Xho | hao wuld u kno dat eh |
| 21:46.17 | Hachiman | olol |
| 21:46.19 | Xho | eh achi |
| 21:46.22 | Xho | hacho |
| 21:46.29 | Xho | hachosama |
| 21:46.33 | OluapPlayer | hacho the magnifico |
| 21:46.40 | Hachiman | I am Hacho from Mon Logoso |
| 21:46.55 | Xho | Bandito Conejo |
| 21:47.09 | OluapPlayer | Rabitto Stewo |
| 21:47.15 | Hachiman | >rabitto |
| 21:49.38 | Xho | Señor Hacho el Conejo MagnÃfico de los Sitios Webs Pornográficos |
| 21:49.59 | Hachiman | Is it wrong that I now want Fantasy Spaniards |
| 21:50.09 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
| 21:50.18 | Hachiman | Only cus you hate the Spanish |
| 21:50.34 | OluapPlayer | No it's cus you got a tab to write |
| 21:50.40 | Xho | Oluap's worst nightmares are of anthropomorphic churros |
| 21:50.57 | ImpyDroid | Hm |
| 21:51.10 | ImpyDroid | Well the Empire of Man is sort of Spanish |
| 21:51.20 | OluapPlayer | http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/922/218/8fa.png |
| 21:51.23 | ImpyDroid | I mean they have the Inquisition and a vast colonial domain |
| 21:51.34 | ImpyDroid | Not to mention fighting Mayas |
| 21:51.38 | Xho | OluapPlayer: kek |
| 21:51.39 | Hachiman | True |
| 21:51.41 | Hachiman | hur |
| 21:51.46 | Xho | ImpyDroid: Needs Conquistadors |
| 21:52.00 | Hachiman | Also Pedro |
| 21:52.00 | ImpyDroid | Xho: I think I had them |
| 21:52.14 | ImpyDroid | L'Ammanori is like |
| 21:52.19 | ImpyDroid | Portugal/Spain/Italy |
| 21:52.22 | ImpyDroid | Or something |
| 21:52.37 | Hachiman | I dunno why but I though L'Ammanori was Greece / Italy |
| 21:52.50 | Xho | Pelagrios - don't be upsetti oh you get the rest of it |
| 21:53.09 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: http://img.memecdn.com/Skeletons_c_91255.jpg Probably seen this but still |
| 21:53.10 | OluapPlayer | maek l'mao paeg |
| 21:53.20 | ImpyDroid | Hm I did not add any Greek elements in their culture |
| 21:53.26 | ImpyDroid | But now that you mentioned it |
| 21:53.29 | OluapPlayer | Don't bully the skeletons |
| 21:53.32 | ImpyDroid | I'll have them have gyros |
| 21:53.57 | Hachiman | IT'S ACTUALLY PRONOUNCED YEE-ROH BUT I STILL CALL IT A GYRO CUS IT SOUNDS COOLER |
| 21:54.29 | OluapPlayer | fuk off jontron |
| 21:54.37 | Hachiman | u will regret dem words |
| 21:54.51 | OluapPlayer | shup go do wat i ordered u |
| 21:55.06 | OluapPlayer | brb dinner |
| 21:55.10 | Hachiman | eet a dik |
| 21:55.57 | ImpyDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:56.41 | Hachiman | And Mannazia would have |
| 21:56.42 | Hachiman | Hm |
| 21:57.07 | Hachiman | Actually is it possible that Mannazia could have exported / stolen stuff like chocolate from the Freelanders and their lands |
| 21:57.11 | ImpyDroid | Krauts duh |
| 21:57.27 | ImpyDroid | I mentioned Javina liking chocolate |
| 21:57.31 | ImpyDroid | So could be a thing |
| 21:57.37 | Xho | define chocolate |
| 21:57.54 | Hachiman | Mannazia exports it from their Tropical Land colonies and then sell it to the other human states |
| 21:58.34 | ImpyDroid | Hm |
| 21:58.47 | ImpyDroid | Hmmm |
| 21:58.57 | Hachiman | HmmmmH |
| 21:59.01 | ImpyDroid | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:59.12 | ImpyDroid | Mannazia is based on Germant |
| 21:59.16 | ImpyDroid | *Germany |
| 21:59.30 | ImpyDroid | One of Germany's largest cities is Hamburg |
| 21:59.43 | Hachiman | Are you about to suggest |
| 21:59.47 | Hachiman | Mannazians eat hamburgers |
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| 22:00.23 | ImpyDroid | I dunno why but the idea of a hamburger in a fantasy world makes me laugh |
| 22:00.54 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 22:01.14 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 22:01.15 | ImpyDroid | hi |
| 22:02.04 | ImpyDroid | There should be a scene at some point set in Mannazia |
| 22:02.21 | ImpyDroid | A Mannazian cook invents the hamburger and shows it to his customers |
| 22:02.43 | ImpyDroid | Then someone tries it and really likes it |
| 22:02.47 | Ghelae | Does Koldenwelt have potatoes for them to chop up and fry too? |
| 22:02.52 | Hachiman | Probably |
| 22:03.15 | ImpyDroid | Moments later a giant dragon flies over the cook's house and burns it to the ground |
| 22:03.24 | Hachiman | hur |
| 22:04.12 | Hachiman | inb4 Mannazia ends up making peace with the Sovereignty via the establishment of human-ran hamburger businesses within elven lands |
| 22:04.19 | Hachiman | Peace through hamburger |
| 22:04.22 | Ghelae | ImpyDroid: That's definitely something for Tales of Champions there. |
| 22:05.03 | ImpyDroid | Alhassal gets mad and drowns the market with kebabs out of spite |
| 22:06.15 | ImpyDroid | Actually do the same staple cultures that exist on Earth exist on Koldenwelt too |
| 22:06.29 | ImpyDroid | Grain obviously, rice and corn were also mentioned |
| 22:06.52 | Hachiman | The chef who invents the hamburger? Richard of Domhnall |
| 22:06.53 | ImpyDroid | Though I am not sure if we have a place where potatoes could be cultivated |
| 22:07.26 | ImpyDroid | Do we have a southern tropical mountain range? |
| 22:07.42 | Hachiman | I do not see why we cannot have southern mountains |
| 22:07.45 | ImpyDroid | Wait we have |
| 22:07.46 | Ghelae | Well, there is a mountain range in the Tropical Lands. |
| 22:07.48 | ImpyDroid | Ar-Klith |
| 22:07.53 | Hachiman | I was about to say |
| 22:08.06 | ImpyDroid | Hm |
| 22:08.12 | Ghelae | I was thinking of Abyssus, and going to comment that it's not ideal for growing potatoes. |
| 22:08.22 | Hachiman | Or anything in general, really |
| 22:08.36 | Ghelae | It's ideal for growing Void-corrupted abominations. |
| 22:08.36 | ImpyDroid | I remember suggesting Xho that Shiarchon could grow spaghetti |
| 22:08.37 | Hachiman | Which makes me wonder what non-Shiarchon survive on |
| 22:08.41 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Well |
| 22:08.45 | ImpyDroid | It is volcanic |
| 22:08.50 | ImpyDroid | cook spaghetti even |
| 22:09.00 | ImpyDroid | So probably quite fertile |
| 22:09.11 | Hachiman | Yeah but Void magic |
| 22:09.31 | Ghelae | Void spaghetti. |
| 22:09.44 | Hachiman | It's probably fertile but with like, mutated stuff |
| 22:10.06 | Ghelae | Just like normal spaghetti, but burned and spiky. |
| 22:10.43 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: Spiky potatoes |
| 22:10.54 | Hachiman | That's just a result of Kalarah's cooking and not actually the effects of the Void |
| 22:11.11 | ImpyDroid | Xho: So do you approve of Shiarchon slaves growing spiky potatoes in Abyssus |
| 22:11.19 | ImpyDroid | Or was demon spaghetti a better idea |
| 22:11.39 | Xho | Either or |
| 22:11.54 | Ghelae | Hachiman: Kalarah's been trying to cook a decent meal for the last 5000 years and still can't get it right. |
| 22:12.32 | OluapPlayer | AAAAAH |
| 22:13.09 | ImpyDroid | Yes we decided to discuss food |
| 22:13.25 | OluapPlayer | eat a dong |
| 22:13.40 | Wormy_ | A void potato once exploded into my microwave. |
| 22:14.16 | ImpyDroid | Ar-Klith could be the origin of normal, spikeless potatoes |
| 22:14.17 | OluapPlayer | Khorloron survive by eating people |
| 22:14.24 | OluapPlayer | Sable Smeevers survive by eating Khorloron |
| 22:14.41 | ImpyDroid | OluapPlayer: It's the circle of life |
| 22:15.31 | ImpyDroid | Shit that food talk made me hungry |
| 22:15.34 | OluapPlayer | Also someone other than me mentioning Tales of Champions |
| 22:15.35 | Ghelae | Well, I'm going to go now. Bye! |
| 22:15.37 | OluapPlayer | maeks me hapi |
| 22:15.39 | ImpyDroid | I'll go take an apple |
| 22:15.40 | OluapPlayer | Bye |
| 22:19.29 | ImpyDroid | The hamburger thing I mentioned could be a story for Javina and Alfgund |
| 22:19.40 | Hachiman | Maybe |
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| 22:30.17 | Hachiman | Fucknet |
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| 22:34.15 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 22:34.15 | DrodoEmpire | :D |
| 22:43.24 | OluapPlayer | Hello |
| 22:45.06 | Wormy_ | turn on, tune in, drop out http://imgur.com/gallery/UfAiq |
| 22:45.55 | Xho | TOOL VIBES ARE STRONG |
| 22:45.59 | Xho | TOOL VIBES ARE STRONK |
| 22:46.07 | Xho | No wonder, Alex Grey |
| 22:46.17 | Xho | He did the album art for Lateralus and 10,000 Days I believe |
| 22:46.51 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCDjP4JnpGU One of the best albums ever I think |
| 22:47.15 | Wormy_ | Yeah Tool are awesome |
| 22:48.03 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/iY3hS |
| 22:48.26 | Wormy_ | and a nicer cake http://imgur.com/gallery/zaSgY |
| 22:49.32 | Xho | DIABEETUS |
| 22:50.37 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/PTc49 |
| 22:51.48 | Xho | cheeki breeki land |
| 22:52.56 | Xho | Getting an Alex Grey-esque tattoo would be cool |
| 22:53.05 | Xho | Might do that |
| 22:55.57 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/gPT1Y |
| 22:57.09 | Wormy_ | http://i.imgur.com/5u8T5DS.gifv |
| 22:57.21 | Wormy_ | more satisfaction http://imgur.com/gallery/2RBMm |
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| 23:01.37 | DrodoEmpire | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbC8HAhW8AEQ7QA.jpg - This guy is infuriating |
| 23:02.03 | DrodoEmpire | Of *course* its "Mum", you dirty American, or wherever you're from 3:< |
| 23:04.27 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/J49HC |
| 23:04.31 | Monet | That one word's shortening is interesting |
| 23:05.08 | Monet | Americans spell a cut-off written form, Brits spel la cut-off spoken form. |
| 23:05.42 | Monet | Unless you're from the North in which case mum is shorthand of mammy. |
| 23:06.56 | DrodoEmpire | Right, yeah |
| 23:07.09 | Xho | "MFW Mum's a highlander and I'll never be King." |
| 23:07.11 | DrodoEmpire | I cannot *stand* American English- Not sure exactly why I just don' |
| 23:07.12 | Xho | THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE |
| 23:07.20 | DrodoEmpire | t*don't like the look of it |
| 23:07.37 | Technobliterator | I actually prefer a lot of American English |
| 23:07.38 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/X5ePPd1 |
| 23:07.47 | Technobliterator | which makes more sense at times |
| 23:07.47 | Wormy_ | sssssss |
| 23:07.50 | Technobliterator | like "color" |
| 23:07.59 | Technobliterator | sorry, but that makes so much more sense than adding an unnecessary u |
| 23:08.15 | Monet | It's a silent u. |
| 23:08.17 | DrodoEmpire | Yes, it does all kinds of things to simplify English- I do not like that they felt the need to simplify a perfectly good language |
| 23:08.40 | DrodoEmpire | Its an irrational feeling perhaps but I find it asinine |
| 23:08.48 | Monet | The u tells your brain to stretch the o sound. |
| 23:09.05 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Eh to be fair I pronounce it "colur |
| 23:09.07 | DrodoEmpire | *" |
| 23:09.18 | DrodoEmpire | Which is due to my Nova Scotian drawl mostly :p |
| 23:09.57 | Monet | I grew up calling candy 'sweets' |
| 23:10.17 | DrodoEmpire | Hmm, trying to think of similar things... |
| 23:10.39 | DrodoEmpire | Well I know at least in NS we call "candy bars" what they actually in fact are- Chocolate bars. |
| 23:10.40 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
| 23:10.56 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMjD_vBi9ss Bloody hell wht |
| 23:12.00 | Monet | Xho: That's the "Oblivion with Skyrim's engine" Imp told you about earlier. |
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| 23:12.50 | Xho | Imperial City is scarily accurate |
| 23:14.40 | Monet | I've heard there's one spot in Skyrim where you can see the Imperial city |
| 23:15.15 | Monet | So it kind of already exists in game. I doubt it's this though. |
| 23:18.05 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/Qg3e3lE |
| 23:19.27 | DrodoEmpire | Well, *technically*... |
| 23:19.32 | DrodoEmpire | ...Yes. XD |
| 23:22.21 | OluapPlayer | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Wranploer/Fantasy updated |
| 23:24.18 | Xho | wr0npl00r |
| 23:24.28 | OluapPlayer | F5 that |
| 23:24.53 | Xho | F5wr0npl00r |
| 23:26.01 | Xho | "WHAT THE HELL IS THAT" - Skeltadraskeli |
| 23:27.18 | OluapPlayer | says who |
| 23:27.31 | Xho | cant u r33d |
| 23:27.54 | OluapPlayer | SAYS WHO |
| 23:28.07 | Xho | ME |
| 23:28.10 | Xho | YA DINGUS |
