IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160418

00:06.21HachimanI don't get how anyone can say they're vegan while still eating dick and ass
00:08.57Quark8If a vegan licks something that a vegan would not eat (such as an ass, a sausage, etc.), would that be okay?
00:09.38HachimanWhat if a vegan puts meat in their mouth and chews it up and then proceeds to feed it to their children like a bird, is that okay?
00:10.12DrodoEmpireWhat if they swallow a tiny bit?
00:10.16DrodoEmpireToo big of a risk
00:10.23DrodoEmpireIf they didn't though then maybe
00:14.44DrodoEmpirehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfzVyqoWEAAQu9O.jpg:large - #vapenation
00:14.57HachimanSupport the Vape Naysh
00:15.44Wormy_gets yer vaps out lads
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07:59.34ImpyDroidGood morning Tybusen
07:59.43TybusenGood morning
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13:34.47OluapPlayerHi
13:55.29OluapPlayerImpyDroid: Your turbo-murder rat got featured captain
14:02.01ImpyDroid^_^
14:03.33OluapPlayerI also only just noticed one of the pictures in his page has Atrocius in ut
14:03.34OluapPlayerit
14:07.01ImpyDroidOh yes I used Atrocius as a generic monster in one of these pictures
14:08.32OluapPlayerAtrocius - fuk u³
14:15.42ImpyDroidMy non-canon version of Atrocius fighting your Atrocius even
14:20.53Wormy_http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-18/boaty-mcboatface-wins-naming-poll/7333734
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16:10.09GhelaeHello.
16:10.46OluapPlayerHi
16:13.48Wormy_hi
16:21.03GhelaeOluapPlayer: Sorry if you've been asked this already, but is there a reason why you removed the taxonomy from the Screeble page when you put the featured article template on it?
16:21.32OluapPlayerI wanted to talk to you and the others about it
16:21.44OluapPlayerI feel like we should remove taxonomy from Maxis creatures
16:22.12OluapPlayerTaxonomy is fanon made by us. It's essentially fiction.
16:23.04Xhodat punctuation
16:23.10Xhonerdo
16:23.48OluapPlayerI'm being serious here
16:24.23GhelaeIt is certainly the most out-of-place part on the Maxis creation pages.
16:24.33GhelaeAlongside calling creatures "extinct".
16:25.52OluapPlayerThe extinct category makes some sense since these creatures don't exist in the actual release
16:26.28TechnobliteratorI agree with removing it
16:27.05GhelaeThe best argument I can think of for including Maxis creatures in the taxonomy project is that it provides something to base the taxa around. Conversely we should now have more than enough non-Maxis creatures for that be unnecessary.
16:27.31OluapPlayerI would actually suggest removing pages for Maxis creatures who are not from pre-release since their pages can only have so much written in them, and instead have a "List of creatures in Spore" which includes all of them in alphabetical sections
16:28.07OluapPlayerMaxis creatures have no character, we can't claim what they are like since that is literally writing fiction of them
16:28.18Technobliterator"List of Maxis creatures in Spore" is probably better
16:28.23GhelaeSomething like that makes sense. Perhaps make it a gallery?
16:28.31GhelaeAnd I agree that the extinct creatures category has a place; although it's practically used identically to the historic creatures category)
16:28.31Wormy_Some of that information comes from what Maxis developers described.
16:28.47Ghelae*and the naming seems a bit fanon-y.
16:28.49TechnobliteratorIt can barely be more than a few sentences
16:29.07XhoI don't know why we have the taxonomy system anyway
16:29.08TechnobliteratorTaxon is probably a leftover from when they were still in Creature namespace
16:29.09OluapPlayerI thought of a list with a short description and a gallery if there are multiple versions of the same creature
16:29.13XhoIt's not exactly useful
16:29.19OluapPlayerLike, some creatures have tribal, civ, space versions etc
16:29.32GhelaeWormy_: Isn't that the Maxis creations that *are* the pre-release? Most of it could still go into a single page, though.
16:29.41TechnobliteratorA table list or a gallery
16:29.47Technobliteratoreither works
16:29.50Technobliterator\o/
16:29.59GhelaeSomething more complicated than just a gallery would allow us to include stats too.
16:30.04OluapPlayerPre-release creatures should keep their pages
16:30.12OluapPlayerThis suggestion is just for post-release
16:30.56TechnobliteratorI'd say the names of the parts are more important than the stats
16:31.02Wormy_Apologies, I read that as remove pages from existing than removing them from the category.
16:31.27TechnobliteratorI would say remove them from existing, honestly
16:31.40GhelaeNames of parts tells you indirectly what the stats are, so you could do that too.
16:31.54Technobliteratoryeah
16:31.56Technobliteratorthat's what I mean
16:32.01OluapPlayerI would have suggested this before but I have no good layout in mind
16:32.07OluapPlayerStats should be included yes
16:34.42XhoOluapPlayer: "Magic overpowers weapons."          Longinus - trigger spear is about to be triggered
16:34.55Wormy_Also as for "Maxis creatures have no character", I woiuld dispute that.  The character of creatures relates procudurally to the parts on them.  It does look random, but there are patterns that make some creatures more aggressive or social.  I don't have an idea how we could usefully describe that though.
16:34.57OluapPlayer>spear made of magic
16:35.09XhoLonginus - DON'T JUDGE ME
16:35.57OluapPlayerThe pattern is purely based on how many attacking power they have, and even then, a player can befriend or kill anything
16:36.10OluapPlayerThey're all blank and exist purely to populate the game's planets
16:36.20Wormy_That's probably the minimum we can describe
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16:43.58OluapPlayerGoddamnit
16:44.04Xhodur
16:44.28Tek0516There's also value in keeping the pages as a reference for creature stats. I'm sure at least someone might go look for those
16:51.31GhelaeHowever, creature stats don't require a whole page, including the infobox that's longer than the main text.
16:52.10OluapPlayerThe stats should be included in this super-page
16:53.31Wormy_I'm pro super-page.  Sparse and general information could be written in one place (e.g. a note about the social-aggressive spectrum)
16:54.43OluapPlayerA picture, a brief description of what it looks like, its stats, any trivia it may have and a gallery of clothed versions if they exist
16:54.47OluapPlayerI believe this would work
16:54.51Wormy_A super-page for extinct creatures could probably do away with fake stats but keep quotes or snippets about them.  I think we should keep them, because the development of Spore is an interesting subject.  There's plenty written about it we haven't touched, see Chris Hecker'scwebsite
16:55.19OluapPlayeri've already said pre-release creatures should keep their pages
16:55.53OluapPlayerAnd they should not be included in this super-page either. Let it be only for creatures existing in the base game
16:56.03OluapPlayerBy extension we should also have a page for creatures introduced in GA
16:56.10Wormy_I meant a super page of their own, but okay
16:56.31OluapPlayerI don't see the need for one, but we could have it
16:56.36Wormy_I guess they have more info than the existent creatures
16:56.52OluapPlayerPre-release creatures don't suffer from perma-stub syndrome
16:57.17Xhopurmustub
16:57.37Wormy_And I'm a wikiZombie
16:58.29GhelaeBy the same reasoning, should we also remove all flora and cell taxonomy and make similar pages? For cells we do already have such a super-page.
16:58.54OluapPlayerPreferably
17:00.25GhelaeCome to think of it, that was probably what I had at the back of my mind when I mentioned using Maxis creations as a basis for the taxonomy: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Ghel%C3%A6/Taxonomy
17:00.51GhelaeFortunately we shouldn't need a floral taxonomy at all when Maxis creations aren't classified.
17:02.45OluapPlayerNo need for one when Spore doesn't have a plant creator
17:02.51GhelaeExactly.
17:03.20GhelaeNot that that's stopped people: http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3AAllPages&from=&to=&namespace=122
17:03.37Ghelae...There's a lot more there than I expected.
17:03.55GhelaeI imagine most of them are either unclassified or in the Floridata, though.
17:04.14OluapPlayerA surprising number, but not a whole lot
17:04.51GhelaeAssuming we do make this no-Maxis-taxonomy idea policy, I should easily be able to get rid of whatever floral taxonomy remains.
17:05.21GhelaeThere are actually fewer user-made cells: http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3AAllPages&from=&to=&namespace=112
17:06.15OluapPlayerWow
17:07.08XhoXoidburg
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17:44.16XhoSo Caligaduro created as little as four gods and as many as eight if one believes the myths
17:44.26Xhoguy gets around
17:47.06OluapPlayerCaligaduro - i was supposed to destroy stoof        wat is dis
17:47.48XhoMaharaksas - u pwned urself      how does it feel
17:48.11XhoAt the very least he created Rama-Squid, Kaicaiusarin, Maharaksas and inadvertently Crux
17:48.18XhoOr partially
17:48.37XhoAt the very most he also created Soldalatel, Aethereus, Nalashtannylor and Samayapalaka according to the Orichalcum Elves
17:49.03XhoNalashtannylor although being much more tenuous
17:49.23OluapPlayerCrux has always been around
17:49.36OluapPlayerCaligaduro may have influenced him but the main reason he went savage is Isiris
17:50.06XhoCaligaduro - u turned my child into a failed abortion
17:52.46XhoI wonder what Norrigan would think of that
17:53.54OluapPlayerOf what?
17:54.23XhoIsiris turning Crux into a mad god
17:55.06OluapPlayerProbably something like "what else would happen? praise isiris"
17:55.36Xhoasdf
17:55.51OluapPlayerBut he'd probably shrug it off as mythology and be more interested in purging the Crux with holy lightning
17:57.10XhoCrux - foow
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18:27.33The_RandomnessHello
18:28.29Wormy_hi
18:30.46GhelHello.
18:36.10XhoOluapPlayer Hachiman: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Caligaduro_Provectus Given this an overhaul
18:36.36OluapPlayerI'll check in a moment
18:37.00XhoThe only main thing that has changed is the history
18:37.04XhoAnd the relationships
18:37.52XhoNeeds more up to date quotes tho
18:43.58XhoCaligaduro's servants are dropping like flies though
18:44.13XhoFour are dead and two have defected
18:49.22OluapPlayerMy quotes are all still valid
18:49.27OluapPlayerso scroo yoo
18:53.00GhelXho: If Caligaduro did create Soldalatel, Aethereus and Nalashtannylor, would that mean he also created, or was responsible for the creation of, Celestial Magic?
18:53.12XhoCaligaduro - my greatest regret
18:53.21XhoRather ironically yes
18:54.41XhoI'm thinking of devolving the term 'celestial magic' into an umbrella term for Sun, Storm and Darkness since they're kinds of magic that draw on un-earthly elements
18:54.48XhoAnd just do away with alien magic there altogether
18:55.24XhoSo in turn the Phoenixes just controlled Sun and Storm magic to an ungodly degree
18:57.49XhoIn a sense it would derive from the ancient idea that those magics were governed by 'celestial' elements
18:58.02XhoSo Sun magic = governed by sun, Storm = governed by moon, Darkness
18:58.10XhoWell Darkness is an extremely bastardised school of magic
18:58.13OluapPlayerAAAAHHH
18:58.17OluapPlayerOkay I didn't disconnect
18:58.22Xhogg
18:58.30OluapPlayerStupid internet
18:59.02XhoAs far as I can tell, darkness comes in Simulacra, Koldenweltian and Shadowrealmer varities so I guess one would leave it out
18:59.38XhoAlthough I dunno whether Simulacra dark magic is the same as Koldenweltian dark magic
18:59.55XhoThe Simulacra seem to be able to do a lot more with it than what normal dark magic is capable of
19:00.02OluapPlayerIt is for mine
19:00.10Xhohm
19:00.16OluapPlayerThey're gods
19:00.19OluapPlayerOf course they can do more
19:00.23Xhodoi that's true
19:00.54XhoShadowrealmer dark magic is more or less the same as well but explaining it is difficult
19:01.05XhoIt's a bit like Maharaksas put dark magic in a blender and threw it back out
19:01.44XhoOr conversely I could make Shadowrealmer magic void magic and remove all ties of dark magic to him
19:01.55Xhoconversely where the hell did that come from
19:02.26OluapPlayerthrough conversion
19:02.53XhoThat would make sense
19:03.05XhoAs a former Exalted Sovereign he could effectively do whatever the hell he wanted by himself
19:03.16XhoAlthough becoming a god of his own brand of dark magic would weaken him
19:03.48XhoAlthough in turn that makes him free of Caligaduro's control
19:03.58XhoAlthough although although although
19:04.31XhoIn all seriousness I would remove the Shadowrealm stuff if I could but it's too far ingrained into the Fantasyverse
19:04.54XhoGot to find ways to make it work
19:05.05OluapPlayerhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Crux/Id#Idkin I wrote about fleshies because Hachiman is a LAZY PIECE OF SHIT
19:05.12OluapPlayerXho: There's one made by you that you should fill
19:05.32XhoOh yeah I remember these things
19:05.34Tek0516O.o So I was trying to add my university email to my phone. The email server requires me to grant it absolute control of my phone to it, including the ability for that email to freely and remotely wipe and factory reset my phone.
19:08.19XhoOluapPlayer: dere dine
19:08.21Xhodone even
19:08.31OluapPlayerthank u fatso
19:08.42Xhour welcome dongbrain
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19:09.02OluapPlayerHachiman: luv me
19:09.17ImperiosHi
19:09.21Hachimani doo
19:09.22HachimanHai
19:09.24ImperiosXho: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3H8vPjZrt2Q/hqdefault.jpg
19:09.28OluapPlayerI was gonna say "strange thing to get on to" but this is kinda normal to us
19:10.18HachimanImperios: top quote id page now pls aaaaaaaa
19:10.19XhoImperios: My worst nightmare
19:10.37ImperiosHachiman: Top quote Alar'xashan page ^^
19:10.48ImperiosNow let me think of something
19:10.53HachimanFucking goddamn I ask you for a simple thing grumble grumble
19:11.17OluapPlayerURRRRR GRUMBLE GRUMBLE GRUMBLE
19:11.58ImperiosAnd I ask you for another simple thng
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19:13.02DrodoEmpireHi everyone
19:13.03Xho18th April 2016: Kunni'ghan Day
19:13.08Xho4/18 grumble it
19:13.10XhoHi
19:13.38HachimanImperios: Gimme a rank in the Ordnung hierarchy
19:13.41HachimanOther than King
19:13.48OluapPlayerKing but slightly less
19:14.09ImperiosJarl
19:14.27OluapPlayerballin
19:14.29Xhodammit
19:14.30HachimanBALLIN
19:14.40XhoI was late by two seconds there
19:14.45OluapPlayerlul
19:15.27ImperiosActually, Eorl because EALD AENGLISC MOTHERFUCKER"
19:15.40Xhodidney eorl
19:15.44OluapPlayerolol
19:15.48Hachimanolol
19:16.59Xhohttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10351579_728901270490399_8821598098144800434_n.jpg?oh=c4bfa25efd82d196c04507fbd5caf62c&oe=57BCE67E |>
19:17.20OluapPlayer[X-files theme plays in the distance]
19:18.02Xho"No its just £21.50"
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19:18.29Imperios"The trees have eyes. The plants have teeth. The [[fiction:Exosubstratal|beasts]] dance among the rivers of blood. Intensine-serpents gnaw upon the sickened brown corpse-ground, swollen tapeworms feasting upon each other - dwarfing mountains as they grow. Madness. Madness. Madness Brother eats brother. Mother eats child. Child eats mother. FLESH FLESH FLESH FLESH"
19:18.35ImperiosNvm
19:18.49XhoMeanwhile, Charles loses his mind
19:19.01Imperios"The trees have eyes. The plants have teeth. The [[fiction:Exosubstratal|beasts]] dance among the rivers of blood. Intensine-serpents gnaw upon the sickened brown corpse-ground, swollen tapeworms feasting upon each other - dwarfing mountains as they grow. Madness. Madness. Madness. Brother eats brother. Mother eats child. Child eats mother. FLESH FLESH FLESH FLESH FLESH FLESH FLESH MADNESS MADNESS MADNESS~~~"
19:19.05ImperiosThere
19:19.28ImperiosAnd hi Charles
19:19.38ImperiosThat's some SCP-level shit
19:20.04XhoOluapPlayer: Fuckworld comes to mind when I read that
19:20.11OluapPlayerhur
19:20.24XhoWhich is about right actually
19:20.33OluapPlayerCrux's mind is probably 24/7 Fuckworld
19:21.46HachimanCrux - I͏ ̵͜͜͡S̷̨̀͘͜T̢̕͡À̧͜͡͝Ṕ̧L̴̨̛͜͠E̡͠͝ ̶̕͘͟T̶̴̵͟͝A̧͠͠͝P͏̸͢͡E̶̛͡҉̛W̶͏O̶R̷̡̛҉M̵S̶̛͘ ̛͏̨́͡Ò̸͢͝N̢̨̛͘͠ ̴͢͝MÌ¡Ì¡Y̴̕͘͢͜ ̶̷P͠͝Ȩ̶̷͟͞Ņ̵͟͠I̴̴̕͢͠S̨ ̵͏S̵̴͢҉O̸҉̴͞ ̴̧͡͡T͘҉͘H̶E̶͠ ͜҉̧͘͢F̀́́L̢̛͟È͢͏̕S̡͞H̀̀ ̸̢͡W̨̧͝O̴̢R̷͜͝M̸͏̸͠͝S͟͠ ̢̡̧̛W̵͡I̢͟L͘҉͏̸̀L̡̧̀ ̡̡͞Ḑ̶̷̕RÍ
19:21.49XhoId, also known as reemix's channel
19:22.09XhoLots of revelations here tonight
19:23.00OluapPlayerAll the page needs now is the History section and it will finally be complete
19:25.35ImperiosNvm I got it, expanded quote a little bit more
19:25.37Imperios"The trees have eyes. The plants have teeth. The [[fiction:Exosubstratal|beasts]] dance among the rivers of blood. Intensine-serpents gnaw upon the sickened brown corpse-ground, swollen tapeworms feasting upon each other - dwarfing mountains as they grow. Blisters and buboes grow and burst upon the skin of madmen, one thousand corpse-newborn squealing and crying for their rotting mothers as they are born into the world. I cough and regurgitate my heart
19:25.38Imperiosand mind and soul as I vomit my own guts and hatred spew forth more monstrosities, lizards without skin, born bloodthirsty, dying and pregnant. Madness. Madness. Madness. Evolution. Development. The thrill of the hunt. Jungle. Jungle of trees - not trees, corpses, corpses, corpses. Law of the jungle. Kill. Kill! Kill! Brother eats brother. Mother eats child. Child eats mother! Kill! Eat! Kill! Eat! FLESH FLESH FLESH FLESH FLESH FLESH FLESH MADNESS MADNE
19:25.38ImperiosSS MADNESS~~~"
19:28.26ImperiosHachiman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqMbqdJUXeA Have some [triggering] matterial
19:29.31ImperiosXho: http://2static.fjcdn.com/large/pictures/cf/b8/cfb837_5597562.jpg
19:29.51XhoWrong person to send that to
19:30.00Imperioshttp://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/952/850/1b0.jpg
19:31.20ImperiosOluapPlayer: http://img.ifcdn.com/images/55ac10328f6b002c42d16bb9b145a7c49f9d3a29552583a83f6fa535bde16aa0_1.jpg
19:31.24ImperiosXho too
19:31.32OluapPlayerfug
19:31.41Xhooh god
19:33.38Hachiman"He deems us pure of body and of mind; He assures us of the destiny that we are fated for. Of our place, secure and uncontested, atop the Grand Hierarchy of the World. Yes, there are many orders founded in dedication to Him, yet it is '''our''' order that reflects most absolutely '''His''' order. Heil Nirdesa! It is by His command that we deprive the infantile mouth-breathers from the surface of our mercy - of any right this worl
19:34.53OluapPlayerdidney worl
19:35.14Imperios>Heil
19:36.10XhoHOOOOOOOOOO
19:38.01ImperiosIt stopped on "world"
19:39.18Hachiman"It is by His command that we deprive the infantile mouth-breathers from the surface of our mercy - of any right this world has granted them to thrive! Little more than rats, are they! Cockroaches to be crushed, damnable vermin to be purged without a second thought! Flood their lungs with the ash of their kin as, by His demand, we '''decimate''' the barbarians - again, and again, and again! Utopia through conquest, order through
19:40.02Imperiosends on "through"
19:40.09OluapPlayerJust put it on pastie
19:41.09ImperiosXho: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztjnQna0drw
19:41.32Imperioswait nvm
19:41.34ImperiosWrong wake up
19:41.45Hachiman"Utopia through conquest, order through blood! Blood... Blood for the Cosmic King! Heil Nirdesa! Heil Nirdesa! '''HEIL NIRDESA!'''" - Eorl Engelstaub
19:41.55HachimanModify that quote however you will
19:42.00Imperioshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aojl3R8CAeQ This one
19:42.20ImperiosI'll just change "Nirdesa" because the Ordnung name for him is different
19:42.45HachimanMay as well change the entire quote into that old German thing since you like the Ordnung speaking like that hur
19:43.17ImperiosIt's English dam u
19:43.34ImperiosJust very old English
19:43.38Xhowake me up inside
19:43.49OluapPlayerBEFORE YOU GO
19:43.50Imperiosand I do not think the Anglo-Saxons had the word for "utopia" or "barbarians" or "hierarchy"
19:43.56Imperios*words
19:44.01ImperiosWell they actually had the word for "barbarians"
19:44.04HachimanAlso, Engelstaub is supposed to be "angel dust"
19:44.09OluapPlayerIt's fantasy kobolds
19:44.18OluapPlayerThey don't have to follow real world rules
19:44.20HachimanAs in, PCP
19:44.34HachimanChange the name however you want to be more fitting hur
19:44.36ImperiosOluapPlayer: Yes but the potato language I use for them is a real language hur
19:44.43OluapPlayerur loss
19:44.56ImperiosNot even a foreign language per se even
19:44.56Hachimanis this loss
19:45.05ImperiosIt is just very, very old English
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19:45.22LuxorAy
19:45.28HachimanOh, I gotta better name
19:45.32HachimanEorl Mengeleich
19:45.39ImperiosActually wait the Anglo-Saxons had a term for "barbarians"
19:45.42XhoEARL FEGELEIN
19:45.45XhoFEGELEIN
19:45.47Imperios"walhisk" or something
19:45.50OluapPlayerHachiman: | | | _
19:45.52LuxorReich-talk?
19:45.56LuxorCan I join?
19:46.04Xhohits the deck
19:46.05ImperiosIt is actually preserved in modern English
19:46.11ImperiosAs "Welsh"
19:46.14Hachiman|     | |     |   |     |  _
19:46.59ImperiosLuxor: You cannot, you're already annexed
19:47.06LuxorF*g russ scum
19:47.16LuxorTsar cannot into Jekaterinburg
19:47.17OluapPlayerwrite id history dangit
19:47.44ImperiosHachiman: Yes "Welsh" actually used to mean "barbarian"
19:47.49ImperiosOr "foreigner" or something
19:47.51ImperiosThink "gajin"
19:47.59ImperiosThat kind of connotation
19:48.38HachimanMakes sense considering they shag sheep
19:49.17LuxorHachiman Imperios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDAeJ7eLGGg&list=WL&index=1
19:50.46ImperiosXho: http://cs540108.vk.me/v540108346/156c3/i4QdGcdW1lA.jpg
19:52.51LuxorImperios: http://i.imgur.com/YqRtQpC.png
19:54.35LuxorVenäjä ded
19:54.35Imperioshttp://ghostraptor1917.deviantart.com/favourites/?offset=0 Holy shit this man's favourites
19:55.03ImperiosIt is like if Xho, Hachi, me, Drodo and Charles were fused together
19:55.37LuxorGod no
19:55.47LuxorI hope you know that is a horrible idea
19:55.54Luxorworse than revolution in 1917
19:56.22Wormy_comes back
19:56.28Wormy_gosh, activity
19:57.48ImperiosWormy_: http://ghostraptor1917.deviantart.com/favourites Holy shit, Hachi, Drodo, Xho and Imp's long-forgotten child
19:57.55XhoSomewhat glad he doesn't follow me
19:58.33XhoCurrently on 125, not bad
19:58.34Wormy_Imperios:  lol
19:59.07Wormy_And Oluap, he likes reptiles
19:59.51Luxorslaps nazi
20:00.23ImperiosWhy do you slap yourself?
20:00.33Luxoroh come one
20:00.39LuxorGosh, f*ck my keyboard
20:00.46LuxorI meant 'come on'
20:00.48LuxorI am not nazi
20:00.50DrodoEmpiretest
20:01.39LuxorHitler is in fact the only politician who realised everything he promise when there was a democracy in Germany
20:01.47Luxorhe promised*, stupid d key.
20:02.07Imperiosc
20:02.21ImperiosXho: "didn't quite know whether I was standing on my head or my heels" what the fuck does that mean
20:02.33XhoEh I dunno
20:05.11XhoSort of glad that I don't frequent DA much anymore
20:05.30LuxorBTW, is there any bigger fiction happening in FU now?
20:06.15DrodoEmpireDa Reckoning is one
20:06.51Luxorikr
20:07.49LuxorI have been thinking about expanding the FU far beyond the current timeline
20:08.03LuxorAbout 2 bilion years from present day (in fu)
20:08.08Luxorinto past.
20:08.18Wormy_http://imgur.com/gallery/yEmYO
20:08.27LuxorAnd I think it could be nicely connected to collab
20:13.24LuxorIs the silence an await for further explanation or just a dull inactivity?
20:16.33XhoDull inactivity
20:16.53Luxoryeah.
20:17.05ImperiosOluapPlayer Technobliterator: I found an old Loron ship I made years ago
20:20.20OluapPlayerRight
20:20.38Imperioshttp://i.imgur.com/UjmmOcD.png there
20:23.05GhelLuxor: Well, we do have some descriptions of things that existed 2 billion years ago. Like the Zhulultu domination of the universe.
20:23.17Luxoroh.
20:23.26Xhoalien cthulhus gon cthulhu u gud
20:23.28Luxorwell this blocks my way now
20:23.38Xhouluun cthulhus gun cthulhu u gud
20:23.54Luxor...and 1 bilion yrs ago
20:24.02Luxorid anything, well, specific happen then?
20:24.07Luxordid*, crappy keyboard
20:24.53Imperios2 billion years would be the Precursor era
20:25.00Wormy_Our main timeline is outdated, but its worth chewcking out the timelines for galaxies
20:25.05ImperiosWe have a lot of storylines connected to that period
20:25.13Luxorinteresting
20:25.33Wormy_OluapPlayer: http://imgur.com/gallery/YtjtG3T
20:26.08LuxorWell, I am to create a collab empire, based on turkish culture combined with gold and modern technology
20:26.12Luxoraka. Orokin
20:26.19Luxorcheck warframe wiki if you want
20:26.35ImperiosWhere would they live then
20:26.40LuxorWell
20:26.47LuxorIf this project is to even be starte
20:26.50Luxorstarted*
20:27.03LuxorWe are speaking of at least 1 galaxy in direct control
20:27.11Wormy_Xho: http://imgur.com/gallery/mYTvuwe
20:27.11Luxorof put-name-here civilization.
20:27.29XhoHOH
20:27.32Xhohoh*
20:27.57Luxorhöhö
20:28.23ImperiosWormy_: Zooexorcist
20:29.14Luxoröh
20:30.01Luxores muss jüdischen Schuld sein
20:30.14LuxorGerman language is badass
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20:30.39LuxorYou can connect every single word in german with word "Juden" or "Judisch"
20:30.59ImperiosPolisch though
20:31.03ImperiosHi Tybusen
20:31.08TybusenHello
20:31.13LuxorGood evening
20:31.31Luxor...and the "sweets" in german is SuBigkeiten
20:32.15Luxor...monument is Sehenswordigkeiten
20:32.35Luxor...and area to be gained in order to colonize it is called "Lebensraum"
20:33.29Tybusenhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Tybusen_Intergalactic_Allied_Federation/Ships I've been working on revamping this page
20:34.11ImperiosJust give this guy something to anschluss in his Lebensraum and do not go Blitzkrieg distance-close to him
20:34.58LuxorRuss schwein
20:35.02Luxorjk
20:35.34LuxorBut seriously, I would really like to bring up to life the project I was talking about
20:35.43LuxorI'll consider adding forum thread tomorrow
20:35.51LuxorBut for now, cya
20:36.12Hachimanhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Crux/Id#History Mission completed
20:42.01Wormy_http://imgur.com/r7HEPQJ
20:45.34Wormy_snek got confuzzled http://imgur.com/gallery/Kw46GTf
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20:51.28Wormy_Xho, Ghel:  So they based a movie on Joh Lilly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YfdpZdugBM
20:51.30Wormy_John
20:53.54GhelNot quite true to reality.
20:56.10Wormy_The body transforming itself, yeah.  Lilly certainly hallucinated his body changing though
20:57.24Wormy_"In the province of the mind, what one believes to be true is true or becomes true, within certain limits to be found experientially and experimentally. These limits are further beliefs to be transcended. In the mind, there are no limits..."  Then he said "However, in the province of the body there are definite limits not to be transcended."
20:59.49HachimanXho Imperios: hao bout u two drop hot mixtapes-- i meen quotes on Id page
21:00.01ImperiosDrop quote on Alar'xashan and Kalisearan page
21:00.03Imperios:p
21:00.10HachimanI gave you a top quote ngh
21:00.14HachimanI can't quote as Crux
21:00.19HachimanCrux doesn't say stuff hur
21:00.30OluapPlayerCrux - fuck the dragon          fuck the cat
21:00.40HachimanThat reminds me
21:00.50HachimanDoes anybody else remember that time Alfgund fucked a goddess
21:01.31ImperiosThat
21:01.32OluapPlayerI remember the two times Clotho had her body violated by a vampire god
21:01.34ImperiosAlfgund can quote Kalisearan
21:02.01Hachiman>tfw you accidentally spell captain as capitain
21:02.08OluapPlayerSOY CAPITAN
21:05.59OluapPlayerNow the only Simulacrum realm without any description is the Outworld
21:06.02OluapPlayerImperios: fix dis
21:06.19Imperiosggrgewewgfwgwegew
21:09.27ImperiosHachimna: Quoted Id
21:10.20OluapPlayerXho: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgVkRsLXIAEFQJk.jpg SPU
21:13.19ImperiosHachiman even
21:14.05ImperiosI just realised
21:14.13ImperiosAll Id creatures have Indian-inspired names
21:14.23ImperiosTech Support Demons
21:15.01OluapPlayerTech support
21:15.02OluapPlayerWhat
21:15.15ImperiosIt is a racist joke
21:15.59ImperiosXho can now make two jokes about Kim Jong Un, K-Pop, eye surgery, vodka, balalaika, and Vladimir Putin in return
21:16.41ImperiosOluapPlayer: Basically, a lot of tech support companies outsource their production to India, leading to the creation of the stereotype of Indian tech support
21:16.42OluapPlayerXho's playing Oblivion
21:16.54OluapPlayerI see
21:16.54HachimanQuoted cat tits
21:17.25Xhogah
21:17.30XhoOblivion crashed
21:17.42OluapPlayerhaw haw
21:17.43OluapPlayeri jinxed it
21:18.05Imperios>I was talking about Indian tech support
21:18.12Imperios>Xho's game crashed
21:18.36ImperiosHachiman: Kalisearan-senpai
21:19.43Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Caligaduro_Provectus needs more quotes here den
21:19.43ImperiosWhat I find funny is that Korean has largely the same honorifics and suffices as Japanese, yet somehow they sound even more abominable
21:20.03ImperiosYou know what is the counterpart of "senpai" in Korean
21:20.07Imperios"Seon-bae"
21:20.16XhoGET YOUR OWN HONORIFICS
21:20.22XhoTEIKOKU TEIKOKU TEIKOKU
21:20.32ImperiosI think they're all Chinese ultimately
21:20.59ImperiosOne think I find incomprehensible
21:21.10ImperiosKorean girls often refer to their boyfriends as "Big Brothers"
21:21.58ImperiosI find it doubleplusungood
21:22.37HachimanTENNO HEIKA
21:22.38HachimanBANZAIIIII
21:23.15Xhoquoted id
21:24.14XhoOluapPlayer: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t31.0-8/13055005_961415543973401_1350836758768021384_o.jpg
21:24.25OluapPlayerpls
21:24.33ImperiosQuoted your stupid void god thing
21:25.18Imperios"Padomay, also known as Fadomai,[1] Padhome,[2] or PSJJJJ"
21:25.21Imperios>PSJJJ
21:25.28ImperiosWait is that really canon
21:25.32Hachimanwat
21:26.02Xho"The Order took the name "Psijic", which is based off of the Ehlnofex translation for Padomay, PSJJJJ, a word that is purposefully unpronounceable."
21:26.28OluapPlayerIt sounds like something with a thick accent combined with a lisp
21:27.55XhoImperios: “The Void -- In decline -- I prevail -- Eternally”                              Caligaduro - lol look what happened to outworld              you didn't prevail there
21:28.38ImperiosAlar'xashan - I WILL TOTALLY PREVAIL -- PLZ JUST GIVE ME TIME
21:29.17OluapPlayerVargash - its time to oil up
21:29.23XhoIn all truth Caligaduro shouldn't even have a voice but he does
21:29.27XhoHe's the fricking void incarnate
21:42.17XhoThe fact that Malacath is one of the good Daedra really confuses me
21:42.34OluapPlayerWhich one is that again?
21:43.07XhoOrc Daedra
21:43.38OluapPlayerurc
21:43.48ImperiosISn't he like a corrupted non-Daedara
21:44.50OluapPlayer>Sometimes called Malak, or Mauloch, Malacath is considered one of the most evil Daedric Princes due to his membership in the House of Troubles.
21:44.53OluapPlayermake up ur mind
21:46.05Xho"Despite his ferocity, Malacath is genuinely caring towards his followers."
21:46.12XhoNot many Daedra are like that
21:46.27OluapPlayerThat's not necessarily good
21:46.42OluapPlayerSays here his spheres are emptiness, betrayal, broken promises and anguish
21:46.44OluapPlayerNot very good stuff
21:46.54Xhodammit malacath stahp confusin me
21:47.02XhoNot sure who the most evil Daedra is though
21:47.08XhoMehrunes Dagon probably
21:47.29XhoSheogorath perhaps as well
21:47.30OluapPlayerMehrunes Dagon considering he's literally Satan
21:47.57XhoMolag Bal's up there as well
21:49.10Imperios"She'll ask you to her Tuesdays"
21:49.13ImperiosWHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN
21:49.16ImperiosFUCK WHAT IS THIS FUCK
21:49.20ImperiosWHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT FUCKING MEANS
21:49.28OluapPlayerWhat the hell are you rambling about
21:49.53ImperiosMaugham
21:50.14XhoBoethiah's pretty evil as well
21:50.34HachimanShe's home every Tuesday
21:51.04ImperiosWe're given an early 20th century British short story, a number of Russian phrases and then we are meant to find the appropriate idioms in the text
21:51.47OluapPlayerYou just went full sperg out of nowhere
21:51.56XhoWe'll go for Molag Bal, Mehrunes Dagon and Boethiah as the most evil
21:52.16ImperiosSorry :<
21:52.26OluapPlayerI don't know Boethiah
21:52.35OluapPlayerI know Molab Bal since he's one of Zran Kar's inspirations
21:52.50ImperiosOluapPlayer: My apologies, this stuff is very straining
21:52.55ImperiosAlso
21:52.56Imperios>sperg
21:52.58ImperiosAhem
21:53.36OluapPlayerI refer to any sudden bolt of mindless anger as sperging]
21:53.55ImperiosThis is... not exactly correct
21:54.04OluapPlayerI don't care hur
21:54.04ImperiosI'd say what I generally do is more Sperg-like
21:54.26XhoBoethiah is "deceit, conspiracy, secret plots of murder, assassination, treason, and unlawful overthrow of authority"
21:54.40ImperiosBTW
21:54.45ImperiosHachiman: Thanks
21:54.46ImperiosActually
21:54.53ImperiosWhat you said will pretty much save me
21:54.54OluapPlayerAnyway, Zran Kar is a combo of Molag Bal and Hermaeus Mora
21:55.37HachimanOr rather, "'She's at home every Tuesday evening."
21:55.40OluapPlayerI imagine he speaks like Mora which is why his lines are filled with pauses
21:55.47XhoAlar'xashan just screams Jyggalag
21:56.01XhoAsv-Aldz is Clavicus Vile, Kaicaiusarin is Vaermina
21:56.17OluapPlayerVargash and Mortium don't really fit any of them as far as I can see
21:56.32XhoVargash is close to Mehrunes Dagon what with the conquest thing
21:56.42XhoMortium...hm
21:56.52OluapPlayerMehrunes Dagon is destruction, not conquest
21:56.55OluapPlayerHe's closer to Caligaduro
21:57.08ImperiosThe idiom I am given is "to be ready to accept/meet someone"
21:57.11ImperiosThat is... close enough
21:57.41XhoI guess Mortium's quite close to Namira
21:57.47ImperiosThen again straining as it is that homework is probably quite helpful for me
21:57.59XhoThat's the only parallel I can draw really
21:58.06ImperiosI am going to use "jibbed" in my fiction definitely
21:58.07XhoDarkness and general unpleasantness
21:58.14OluapPlayer>sundry dark and shadowy spirits
21:58.18OluapPlayerClose enough
21:58.33ImperiosI was about to ask which Daedra are AX and KS but then I realised I have already based them on TES gods
21:58.40XhoKalisearan's like Sheogorath and Sanguine
21:58.41OluapPlayerdumbo
21:59.13XhoCaligaduro's pretty much Dagon and Jyggalag
21:59.23XhoJyggalag in the "destroy everything"
21:59.27OluapPlayerBut GigaGiga is the god of order
21:59.28OluapPlayerhao dis
21:59.39XhoJyggalag's kind of order is "Nothing exists"
22:00.10XhoTo restore order to the Shivering Isles he steamrolls over it
22:00.16OluapPlayerAlso if Asv-Aldz is Clavicus then he needs a dog
22:00.16XhoInto a grey ashen wasteland
22:00.26ImperiosThat kind of fits AX
22:00.29XhoAsv-Aldz - here crux            here boy
22:00.32ImperiosHis kind of order is very very grey
22:00.49Imperios"to not quite know whether one was standing on one's head or one's heels"
22:00.58ImperiosTHAT idiom
22:01.08ImperiosI am keeping it in my metaphorical head hard drive
22:01.12XhoWhat the hell kind of idiom is that
22:01.22ImperiosApparently "to be confused"
22:01.26XhoFair enough
22:01.30XhoIt sounds obsolete though
22:01.35ImperiosMaugham
22:01.54XhoCaligaduro's more to do with Sithis/Padomay anyway since voidvoidvoid
22:02.05XhoPerhaps even more to do with Lorkhan
22:03.05XhoActually no not really
22:03.11ImperiosHm
22:03.17ImperiosIf AX is not Jygalagg then who is he
22:03.35XhoI said Jyggalag
22:03.51XhoIf not Jyggalag well I dunno
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22:04.58XhoSheogorath's still my favourite though
22:05.02XhoFollowed by Hermaeus Mora
22:05.14OluapPlayertentacru
22:05.30XhoMy least favourite is probably...hm
22:05.40XhoMeridia or Azura
22:06.35XhoNeither of them are particularly 'daedric'
22:06.38OluapPlayerXho: http://i.imgur.com/YYdwdLK.jpg
22:06.46XhoAYE
22:06.51XhoOr eye
22:06.56OluapPlayerHis name tho
22:07.49Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvSn2eemA4s It's in reference to this I think
22:08.25OluapPlayerolol
22:08.58XhoKithworto's general training style for Hachi I think
22:09.08XhoOr just anyone to Hachi really
22:10.46Xho"MU DIDN'T INVITE NU TO THE DEATH ENERGY, NIGGA FUCK YO DEATH ENERGY"
22:10.59ImperiosOluapPlayer: So I wondered into /r9k/
22:11.02XhoNu is officially an angry black man
22:11.11OluapPlayerMu - niggos
22:11.12ImperiosWhy is it a second /pol/?
22:11.16ImperiosWhy does 4chan have two /pol/s\
22:11.29Xhocus NORMIES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
22:11.45OluapPlayer<PROTECTED>
22:11.45XhoI'm serious that's the answer
22:11.58ImperiosSo a deeper form of /pol/
22:12.02OluapPlayerAnd yes that is an actual explanation
22:12.11OluapPlayer<PROTECTED>
22:12.23XhoIt involves a lot of sociopaths planning school shootings though
22:12.41ImperiosBut these guys are insane kids espousing racism, misogyny and are whining about how they will never get a gf because reasons
22:12.46ImperiosSo /pol/acks basically
22:12.51OluapPlayerIt's a bunch of vehemently aggressive and misogynistic basement dwellers who blame their life problems on others because they're too lazy and selfish to change themselves
22:13.31OluapPlayerAnd yes, there are sociopaths and school shooters there
22:13.54ImperiosSo like us hur
22:14.12OluapPlayerNo? We're nothing like that
22:14.35HachimanI don't recall any of us committing a school shooting
22:14.41XhoNot physically anyway
22:15.35OluapPlayerThat entire place needs to be gassed
22:15.38OluapPlayergas the frogposters
22:15.42ImperiosBut we are lazy selfish basement dwellers
22:15.53OluapPlayerSpeak for yourself
22:15.58Wormy_I don't have a basement
22:16.07Xhologic/10 welcome to UK
22:16.33Imperios._.
22:16.43XhoI don't think many houses in the UK actually have basements or cellars
22:16.55Wormy_We have lofts.
22:17.07Xhoand attics kek
22:17.08ImperiosHey at least I am self-critical
22:17.13ImperiosI know my flaws hur
22:17.22HachimanI don't have a basement either
22:17.24Wormy_then do something about it
22:17.37XhoLike get a basement
22:17.37OluapPlayerComparing us to the scum that frequents /r9k/ is a bit too far
22:17.40OluapPlayerEven as self-deprecation
22:18.48Imperios...True
22:19.07Wormy_This is daisyland happy hour in comparison
22:19.27Imperios>the decree is made absolute
22:19.28ImperiosGuys
22:19.31ImperiosWhat the fuck does that mean
22:19.41XhoImperios: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/13055103_252711558413573_6092384298358012905_o.jpg You're gonna find this one good
22:20.05XhoJust randomly came up on my feed and thought "lol I know an asian"
22:20.14ImperiosI am not that kind of Asian
22:20.25XhoDEAL WITH IT CHING CHONG
22:20.32XhoCONSIDER THIS BEING EVEN FOR EARLIER
22:20.37Imperiosoh hur
22:20.40HachimanFUK-A U WEABOO
22:20.52OluapPlayerfuk off mario
22:20.53ImperiosOkay that is a good comeback
22:24.32Imperios"
22:24.39ImperiosWait what does conversation even mean in that context
22:24.44Imperiosthe ability to conversate I presume
22:27.03Technobliteratorlazy selfish basement dwellers
22:27.11TechnobliteratorI exercise one and a half hours a day
22:27.12Technobliterator._.
22:28.14Imperios"like the blackbirds in the pie"
22:28.31ImperiosTechnobliterator: But you're genuinely attractive and realtively socialisable
22:28.33ImperiosUnlike most of us
22:29.12Technobliteratorthank you :o
22:29.13ImperiosNow that you mention it I feel a bit underwhelmed because I only exercise three times a week hur
22:29.33ImperiosAnd since I am in the mood for thias
22:29.37ImperiosWhat does 'like the blackbirds in the pie' mean
22:29.46HachimanIt's a reference to a nursery rhyme
22:29.55TechnobliteratorWell, depends on what exercise you do as well
22:30.22HachimanSing a Song of Sixpence, is the name
22:30.30TechnobliteratorI wouldn't try and compare yourself to anyone else, because that will just demotivate you, but nothing's stopping you from exercising more often
22:30.36Hachimanhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sing_a_Song_of_Sixpence
22:33.10ImperiosTechnobliterator: Heavy lifting, boxing, a little bit of running and some leg and abdominal exercise
22:33.20ImperiosA-and flexibiltiy
22:33.32HachimanJo has reach
22:34.09ImperiosI do *not* have flexibility hur
22:34.18ImperiosWhich is why I am doing flexibility-related exercise
22:34.36ImperiosI have reach though
22:35.38TechnobliteratorThat sounds like a good mix
22:42.06Wormy_I just have 2 11 km runs and 1 hill session run, and a daily dog walk.
22:42.11Wormy_a week
22:43.11Wormy_Sometimes I do qigoing to stretch and strengthen my qi powers.
22:43.52Wormy_Because my miserable life needs an escapist fantasy
22:45.09Xhoyes
22:45.58Wormy_That being said, I have odd experiences from various esoteric arts
22:46.53ImperiosXho: Do we have any explanation for the origin of the word "Spode"
22:47.02XhoNot to my knowledge
22:49.27HachimanI don't get how anyone can say they're vegan while still eating dick and ass
22:49.38Wormy_You keep saying.
22:49.45HachimanI said yesterday
22:49.46Xhogood grief
22:49.48HachimanWhen no one was here hur
22:49.57ImperiosThen I had a very interesting idea for the potential origin of that term
22:50.17ImperiosBasically Radeons have that kind of pantheistic belief that their souls return to Spode upon death
22:50.41ImperiosWhat if they have a Holy Trinity-esque belief that Spode is, at the same time, an entity and a place
22:50.51ImperiosWith "Spode" referring more often to the latter and t
22:50.54Imperios"Dei'Nar" to the former
22:52.28HachimanI just assumed Spode was a shortened term for Spoddah or something
22:52.40ImperiosThat is what I am going to do
22:53.31ImperiosSpoddah in the current canon is another name for the Rades homeworld of Praestol
22:54.04Imperios"Spotha" could mean something like "source", which thus would fit both for the afterlife and the actual metaphorical source of the Radeon species
22:54.11ImperiosAnd Spode as an entity as well
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22:56.42The_RandomnessHello
22:58.59DrodoEmpireBack
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22:59.29The_Randomnesswb
22:59.45ImpyDroidXho: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Mandatory_Mardor_Empire?useskin=oasis# Mother of God this is like the unsung gem of the fictionverse
22:59.53ImpyDroidI miss Aeo now
23:00.12ImpyDroid"At the same time, it is an established practice for mardor to take turns torturing another in order to achieve pleasure. Such events are rare, but some mardor are willing to be tortured in exchange for being allowed to receive the pleasure of torture. These agreements usually involve amounts of torture much less severe than those inflicted on slaves in the old Mardor Empire. There is also a section of the population who sell themselves, allowing themsel
23:00.43DrodoEmpireThanks Aeo for screwing up a perfectly good client state <.<
23:01.04DrodoEmpireI don't even know where that is fictionwise anymore
23:01.07ImpyDroidDrodoEmpire: What do you mean?
23:01.13ImpyDroidAbout screwing up
23:01.15DrodoEmpireEver since the KSA became irrelevant
23:01.23DrodoEmpireI wasn't ever a fan of Aeo's fictions tbh
23:01.27ImpyDroidBut
23:01.39DrodoEmpireThough I'm just kidding around for the most part
23:01.56ImpyDroidA species of natural sadists forced to sign S&M agreements between each others
23:02.19ImpyDroidThe idea in itself is brilliant as well as hilarious
23:02.39DrodoEmpireEh, maybe
23:02.45DrodoEmpireI dunno
23:02.59The_Randomnesstries not to gag
23:03.09DrodoEmpireI'd just sooner forget most of the time spent with the Katar sector, and especially any time before then
23:03.10DrodoEmpire:p
23:03.13HachimanYou mean Dark Eldar
23:03.37DrodoEmpireIt was a bit of a flop, but it made two good fictions I guess- Mine and Tek's
23:03.53HachimanFifty Shades of Katar
23:04.35The_RandomnessAeo was just expressing his inner god(dess)
23:04.39The_Randomness:^)
23:05.14Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGWZFcsyMgA FUGU
23:05.32ImpyDroidHachiman: They were essentially Dark Eldar yeah
23:05.40HachimanCLIT-OOOOOR-IS
23:06.17ImpyDroidDrodoEmpire: NEVER
23:06.34DrodoEmpire>;
23:06.34ImpyDroidI have already made a Clenden character for the PAE
23:06.44DrodoEmpireOh interesting
23:06.45ImpyDroidAnd I will probably dig up more old races
23:07.06DrodoEmpireYeah that'd be cool
23:07.06ImpyDroidA Mardor named Anasta Greysteel is given
23:07.18Hachimanpls no
23:07.26The_Randomnessech
23:08.03MonetI remember Mardor saying that torture is needed for them to survive.
23:08.17MonetWhich is a realy weird evolutionary trait
23:08.21DrodoEmpire^
23:08.26HachimanYes, really weird and inefficient
23:08.29DrodoEmpire^^^^
23:08.44HachimanIF YOU DON'T BITE MY COCK, I'LL DIE
23:08.51XhoOne thing I never understood
23:08.54MonetOther way round
23:08.56XhoClint Eastwood by Gorillaz
23:08.57DrodoEmpireI could accept being an *extremely* ingrained cultural trait, but it being biological is bizarre
23:09.01XhoI still don't understand it
23:09.04DrodoEmpire*accept it
23:09.05ImpyDroidI always thought they were an artificial species
23:09.08HachimanXho: It's in a bag
23:09.09MonetThey need to deliver torture ot live
23:09.17The_Randomnesslegit some of the dumbest shit I've heard
23:09.26MonetIf they were artificial then maybe it would make sense
23:09.41DrodoEmpireBut why make a race of sadists?
23:09.57DrodoEmpireIs it *that* hard to find interrogators that its easier just to breed an entire species of them? :p
23:10.28DrodoEmpireWere violent crime statistics not as high as were hoped...?
23:10.29HachimanI can understand if sex was a big part of their society from like a culturally standpoint rather than an evolutionary one
23:10.30MonetI get a twitch when people use 'they're alien' to explain some nonsense trait.
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23:10.41DrodoEmpireMonet: Same
23:10.41OluapPlayerDildos
23:10.45DrodoEmpireStill needs to be reasoned out
23:10.47HachimanFunny you say that
23:10.58HachimanWe were just discussing Aeo's race of sexual masochists
23:11.05ImpyDroidAn Aeo with a giant hammer and paladin-like characteristics
23:11.06OluapPlayerwat
23:11.10HachimanAnd how they need sexual stimulation and torture to survive
23:11.13ImpyDroidOluapPlayer: At the same time, it is an established practice for mardor to take turns torturing another in order to achieve pleasure. Such events are rare, but some mardor are willing to be tortured in exchange for being allowed to receive the pleasure of torture. These agreements usually involve amounts of torture much less severe than those inflicted on slaves in the old Mardor Empire. There is also a section of the population who sell themselves, allo
23:11.31ImpyDroid^Aeo's handiwork
23:11.33OluapPlayerMadii - nice
23:13.16HachimanLike, I know me and Oluap made a race of sexual deviants but
23:13.32HachimanAt least they do not need sexual stimulation to survive like Aeo's
23:13.42MonetJust seems like a cheap way to make them bad guys.
23:13.55The_RandomnessMonet: That was exactly what he was going for
23:14.06HachimanAeo was never one for subjective viewpoints and alignment
23:14.09The_Randomnessyeah
23:14.11HachimanEverything had to be objective
23:14.24OluapPlayerHey my sexuals are not deviants
23:14.26OluapPlayerfak u
23:14.29ImpyDroidMeanwhile I have an entire race of cute monster girls and their bishonen male counterparts and they are also the most prudish race in the setting
23:14.34ImpyDroidLOGIC
23:14.38XhoMadiiraxaven tho
23:14.46OluapPlayerMadii is not a race
23:14.48ImpyDroidFUCK STEREOTYPES
23:14.51Xhoshe is now fakka u
23:14.55HachimanMadiiraxaven does not need sex to survive; sex needs her in order to survive
23:15.05XhoKaaxhesh - [brutal]
23:15.06OluapPlayerMind blown
23:15.16HachimanMindjob
23:15.20Xhopls no
23:15.21OluapPlayerGross
23:15.39MonetYeah that's the thing. What makes From Nobody to Nightmare so powerful is anyone can become a threat or a terror.
23:15.43DrodoEmpireI try to make the Drodo as multifaceted and multicultural as possible to avoid the old stereotype of "Every alien gets one culture each"
23:15.47ImpyDroidMy case is a bit funny
23:15.59DrodoEmpireWhich, to be fair, makes sense when the alien species has been spacefaring for centuries or millenia
23:16.05DrodoEmpireCould've very well coalesced into one culture
23:16.17DrodoEmpireBut the Drodo have only been spacefaring for two, three hundred years or so
23:16.18ImpyDroidI have a race of bisexual uber-horny polygamous aliens
23:16.39ImpyDroidThey are also ugly bird centaurs
23:16.39HachimanWHERE
23:16.39HachimanOh
23:16.39ImpyDroidTertanai
23:16.50HachimanSome people are into fucking horses though
23:16.51ImpyDroidI do not think I have mentioned it anywhere but they are 99% bisexual
23:17.13ImpyDroidWell I alluded at it with Lemmo and Lamenar
23:17.16OluapPlayerImp being one
23:17.17OluapPlayerhoh
23:17.19Hachimanhur
23:17.33MonetWhen you make your villains cut-and-dry evil, the kind that you'd think were pulling legs off ants before they could walk, it diminishes the impact.
23:17.33OluapPlayerLamenar is 100% pedofork
23:17.33HachimanTertanai - I FUCKING HATE THOSE GODDAMN HETEROSEXUALS
23:17.41MonetInstead of a danger you get a cariacature
23:18.00DrodoEmpire^
23:18.01The_RandomnessMonet: but then they might have depth
23:18.17MonetThe_Randomness: Lol.
23:18.31ImpyDroidNow I also have a race of pretty furry monster girls, military MILFs and white-haired pretty boys
23:18.37XhoMost of the villains on the wiki do have a tragic background
23:18.37MonetYeah, heaven forbid someone starts ot feel sorry for them
23:18.39The_RandomnessI cannot possibly allow something I dislike to have any depth at all
23:18.43XhoOr something that drove them at all
23:18.52XhoThat failed
23:18.53HachimanToo many villains have tragic backgrounds in my opinion
23:18.55ImpyDroidThey frown at anything sexual
23:18.57HachimanNeeds some born bastards
23:19.14ImpyDroidSame with Artharons
23:19.14DrodoEmpireI mean my guy Jivirik was a bit of a dick. <.<
23:19.18Monet"I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you over my TRAGIC PAST!" - 70% of villains ever
23:19.19DrodoEmpireThough I guess his father died
23:19.34ImpyDroidI wonder which villain of mine was the best
23:19.34DrodoEmpireBut then he also inherited his vast fortune so I'm not sorry for him
23:19.38OluapPlayerVolim was born a bastard
23:19.45XhoThe only born asshole I can think of out of my characters is Nu but that depends on whether you regard Nu as evil or not
23:19.49ImpyDroidGrochius was genuinely born glitched
23:19.52OluapPlayerI've noted how he was a spoiled little brat as a kid
23:19.57ImpyDroidHe was just crazy
23:20.04ImpyDroidBr... gm
23:20.12HachimanBr'klakkon is a Loron so
23:20.17ImpyDroidHe had a tragic past but I never really alluded at it
23:20.36XhoThen again most of my characters are supernatural so they're psychologically geared towards absolutes
23:20.41XhoWhich got a little boring in the end
23:20.51ImpyDroidAlthron has a gay as fuck emo love backstory
23:20.53OluapPlayerHe was just a jackass
23:21.09OluapPlayerSo was Vorius
23:21.11ImpyDroidBut because of me being lazy and Hachiman withdrawing we will likely never hear it
23:21.11OluapPlayerTorrent was also lacking in the tragic side
23:21.19OluapPlayerBorealis is more or less devoid of tragic pasts save for Regnatus
23:21.20MonetIf we're sharing villian pasts, I can't say Volk has a tragic past, nor was he born a bastard.
23:21.21Xhoy'all jackasses
23:21.24HachimanI am coming back into swing
23:21.30HachimanSo we shall see it soon
23:21.39XhoI can't really think of many evil characters of mine at the moment
23:21.43Xhodis bad
23:21.43ImpyDroidNEEDS MORE CRISPY X ALTHRON
23:21.45OluapPlayerAll of them
23:21.47OluapPlayerexcept Pelagrios
23:21.47Xhorite
23:21.51DrodoEmpireMonet: Volk just prankified everybody <.
23:21.51ImpyDroidI WAS PROMISED MORE DRAGONRAT
23:21.53DrodoEmpire*<.<
23:21.55MonetVolk possibly grew up a bastard though.
23:22.09XhoPelagrios is a scoundrel as well
23:22.10HachimanVolkarus - FUCK YOU      YOU JUST GOT PRANK'D
23:22.17DrodoEmpireololol
23:22.26OluapPlayerI actually can't think of any Borealis villain with a tragic past other than Regnatus
23:22.35ImpyDroidKhanjar hm
23:22.40DrodoEmpirehttp://i.imgur.com/nDZFjWN.jpg
23:22.50ImpyDroidDoes anyone even remember Khanjar
23:22.53XhoKalarah wasn't so much of a tragic villain as he was indirectly manipulated by Caligaduro into going psycho demigod
23:22.54MonetVolim did see his kids die
23:23.06HachimanVolim also saw himself die
23:23.07OluapPlayerVolim was a villain before he even had kids
23:23.13MonetAnd Torrent is the last of his kind.
23:23.18HachimanWas
23:23.35ImpyDroidJaharan is pretty tragic though
23:23.37OluapPlayerTorrent's villainy was primarily geared toward his own greed though
23:23.48OluapPlayerIt had little to do with the fact he was the last Kvargo
23:23.48XhoHez'Kalka's one of the few characters I can think of who wasn't originally evil either
23:23.56HachimanJaharan had a tragic past; he could not build his wall to be great enough
23:24.07Technobliteratoruh, Zaarkhun was born a bastard as well
23:24.08HachimanHe could not gas enough heretics
23:24.14XhoSecuring a safe future for Mahanayans -> Got the Angazhar card thrown at him
23:24.14MonetTaremanon is probably another case as his tragic fall isn't backstory
23:24.24HachimanHis father did not give him a small loan of a million dollars
23:24.25ImpyDroidI can now imagine Jaharan's personal heaven
23:24.25OluapPlayerAngazhar - they're safe now           idiot
23:24.29ImpyDroidHe builds walls
23:24.30MonetTechnobliterator: YEah but Zaarkhun still has a tragic past.
23:24.31XhoHez - neigh
23:24.35ImpyDroidThen throws planes at them
23:24.35Technobliteratoryeah
23:24.40ImpyDroidAd infinitum
23:24.44TechnobliteratorZargoth's past I have yet to reveal
23:24.50OluapPlayermuh mommy
23:25.17The_RandomnessTechnobliterator: he got a pizza stolen from him at a tender age
23:25.18Xho"FUCKING MORTALS AND THEIR FUCKING MOTIVES AND EMOTIONS" - Angazhar, whenever
23:25.22OluapPlayerI thought Zargoth's past was already known
23:25.27TechnobliteratorNot fully
23:25.32TechnobliteratorOnly tiny bits
23:25.44XhoActually that's just most of my characters
23:25.45HachimanZaarkhun - MUH SHIELD
23:25.52OluapPlayerShu'rimrodir was a peaceful space squid until he got demonified
23:25.56XhoSantorakh - kek
23:25.59OluapPlayerI don't think that counts as tragic though
23:26.08XhoSantorakh - counts as funny as fuck
23:26.11ImpyDroidDR
23:26.17OluapPlayerShu'rimrodir - was a good thing tho
23:26.17HachimanKhyannarith was born as a fuckwad
23:26.29ImpyDroidWhat about DR actually
23:26.30HachimanHe's an Egyptian prince; most were
23:26.33Technobliteratornone of the Loron have a tragic past
23:26.37Technobliteratorexcept Gratz'kaoz
23:26.43Hachimanbutbut Venom Fre'kloar
23:26.50ImpyDroidNow as for the Fantasyverse
23:26.52XhoNdrhthryr as a human was sort of evil, though he was driven to fear Dalmiric dark magic so he went on an extremist crusade to remove it entirely
23:26.54OluapPlayerTragic present =/= tragic past
23:26.58TechnobliteratorVenom Fre'kloar is alredy a deemun
23:27.06ImpyDroidLucretia is just a racist power-hungry slut
23:27.10HachimanKaz'hira
23:27.12OluapPlayerFor the fantasyverse I got more examples of tragic
23:27.18OluapPlayerXacutus was well-intentioned
23:27.20Technobliteratordo the Vague still count as villains?
23:27.25OluapPlayerNo
23:27.30HachimanIt's vague
23:27.33HachimanLMAO
23:27.38Xhodreadful
23:27.42OluapPlayerI should kick you for that
23:27.54Hachiman;-;
23:28.09XhoI don't have many tragic villains for the Fantasyverse either
23:28.15XhoWell, most of the Shiarchon sort of are
23:28.16OluapPlayerAnyway, Xacutus had good intentions, but Ondarei Mharinis were incompatible with fire magic
23:28.19DrodoEmpirehttp://i.imgur.com/oyPJ7I4.jpg
23:28.22OluapPlayerFire magic turned them completely mad
23:28.26OluapPlayerThe rest you already know
23:28.50XhoThe most tragic character I have is probably Septimus
23:28.55TechnobliteratorZaarkhun thought he was a good guy until the very end
23:28.58Technobliteratorwhen he killed himself
23:29.01Technobliteratorwhich I'm going to retcon out
23:29.05Technobliteratorbecause that was a stupid death
23:29.18OluapPlayerTeratoma is the most tragic character i've ever written
23:29.19OluapPlayerNot a villain though
23:29.37XhoLonginus not so much but five thousand years of extradimensional bullshit tends to build a wall three dimensions thick
23:30.00HachimanI don't really have many villains
23:30.13TechnobliteratorI have about
23:30.13OluapPlayerYou got loads of villains, you just don't use them
23:30.15Technobliteratorthree?
23:30.20ImpyDroidIf you count Javina as a bad guy she is kind of tragic
23:30.21XhoPelagrios is a lot more fucked up than he leads on
23:30.26OluapPlayerShe isn't one
23:30.32HachimanVillains for the Fantasyverse, I mean
23:30.37OluapPlayerAh
23:30.42ImpyDroidPtaetinnath is tragic as fuck
23:30.46TechnobliteratorZargoth, Billig, Da Rogue Boyz
23:30.49Technobliteratorthat's all
23:30.53OluapPlayerKimorgos is not tragic
23:30.54ImpyDroidWho else
23:30.54XhoSantorakh - all hilarious lol
23:31.01OluapPlayerHe is a turbo dick 100%
23:31.11HachimanRapido cock
23:31.42XhoAnnamasakkan is a tragic character but I haven't explained on his past
23:32.08XhoAnd he's semi-evil but he's a dick so
23:33.09XhoMost of my heores are more tragic than my villains
23:33.21OluapPlayerI say I had more examples
23:33.22OluapPlayerI don't actually have more examples
23:33.41XhoI might do Annamasakkan's history as a story one day but I'd need to flesh it out
23:33.42HachimanDalverat
23:33.45HachimanAnd his harem
23:33.54HachimanMost specifically Hamoins
23:34.04XhoObviously he has a history with Narrasturavaran who is actually 1000% dick
23:34.04HachimanTragic because she is not getting fucked by any of my chars lel
23:34.05OluapPlayerNot villains
23:34.14OluapPlayerAnd not tragic
23:34.15OluapPlayerMy point stands, not tragic
23:34.35XhoI'd say Narrasaturavaran is the most evil character I've got in the Fantasyverse
23:34.39Technobliteratorwhy do I have so many tragic characters
23:34.40Technobliteratorwtf
23:34.42XhoAs in pure savage evil
23:34.54HachimanSollow is your most tragic
23:35.02ImpyDroidNow as for Imperials
23:35.09TechnobliteratorSollow is no longer my character \o/
23:35.10ImpyDroidImps as a whole are sort of tragic
23:35.13XhoThe kind of Donald Trump savage evil but with demonic elves rather than badly tanned fat people
23:35.22ImpyDroidBut I do not have a dedicated Imperial villain
23:35.27Hachiman>badly tanned fat people
23:35.28ImpyDroidEven though there ought to be
23:35.30XhoOr perhaps Ted Cruz
23:35.31HachimanSo Trump is the Buddha?
23:35.37XhoBuddha's well tanned stfu
23:35.58Technobliteratoroh, Genrai Nal isn't that tragic
23:35.59OluapPlayerNorrigan - must i purge u
23:36.16HachimanNorrigan could almost be a villain
23:36.22HachimanIf he lets his urge to purge control him
23:36.34OluapPlayerUrge to purge evil is not evil dumbo
23:37.02DrodoEmpireWell that depends
23:37.26DrodoEmpireIf you use many of the same, cruel methods as the evil you intend to purge, I'd say you yourself are indeed evil
23:37.31XhoWell he's good enough to not try and purge Arcturus
23:37.50OluapPlayerHe doesn't employ cruelty
23:37.56OluapPlayerHe fights made-of-evil demons with a sword
23:37.57Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain%3AArcturus Which reminds me, the guy has a page
23:38.09HachimanI would challenge that the means do not to your motivations
23:38.20HachimanYou can be cruel but serve a charitable cause
23:38.25HachimanLawful good is not lawful nice
23:38.39Hachiman*do not equate
23:38.40OluapPlayerLike I just said
23:38.42OluapPlayerNorrigan is not cruel
23:38.59Hachiman>Hadrianus
23:39.06HachimanArcturus - KILL THE BABBY
23:39.14ImpyDroidWait another one
23:39.17ImpyDroidAlexis
23:39.22ImpyDroidAlexis is tragic
23:39.28ImpyDroid...I have tragic overdose hue
23:39.52OluapPlayerTibias - NOT ANYMORE FUCKBOY
23:40.11OluapPlayerbrb dinner
23:40.30XhoKhaadun's the kind of character that blurs the line of good and evil
23:40.30DrodoEmpireHachiman: Well perhaps, but if the enemy, who is indeed pretty goddamn evil, pillages your lands and kills many of your people, is it then justified to pillage their own land and kill many of their people, who probably had nothing to do with the original sacking?
23:40.36DrodoEmpireAs an example
23:40.54XhoDedicated to purging evil but won't hold back if anyone gets in his way
23:41.56OluapPlayerWell nevermind they're gonna order pizza today
23:41.59HachimanThat would be evil because innocents are getting involved when they need not be; meanwhile, capturing and torturing the soldiers of the evil enemy for information and intelligence so that you can use it to protect yourself and your own citizenry could be considered both cruel and good
23:42.06DrodoEmpirehttp://i.imgur.com/JUShQLa.png
23:42.18OluapPlayerTechnobliterator: haw haw gonna have pizza
23:42.22XhoI should probably move Khaadun's alignment to Chaotic Neutral rather than Chaotic Good
23:42.37Technobliteratorwhy would you do this to me
23:42.40Technobliteratornow I'm hungry
23:42.41Technobliterator._.
23:42.44OluapPlayerhee hee
23:42.56XhoHe doesn't really have a code other than 'A to B and beat the living shit out of anyone who stops me'
23:43.28HachimanSuleiman the Magnificent captured members of the Knights Hospitaller, interrogated them, and cut off their noses and ears before sending them back to the enemy side to demoralize them and make them reconsider a surrender
23:43.38HachimanWhich means less people dying
23:44.04OluapPlayerdats cruel
23:44.39XhoWhich reminds me, no one has ever quoted Khaadun's page
23:44.39HachimanHe allowed the surviving knights to walk free and allowed their citizenry to not conform to the Ottoman conscription law for the next three years while also giving them the opportunity to leave whenever they wanted in that time period
23:44.46HachimanAnd did not defile the Christian churches
23:45.01DrodoEmpireI know lots of Ottoman history yeah
23:45.08Xhohttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Khaadun Quote or I'll feed your soul to the almighty Venus Fly Trap of...something
23:45.09DrodoEmpireThey weren't the worst to live under, depending on ruler
23:45.24DrodoEmpireSuleiman the Freakin' Fabulous was pretty good
23:45.30OluapPlayerdum -me
23:45.36HachimanI would say Suleiman is a good example of how cruelty does not necessarily always equate to evil
23:45.54HachimanBut then, I suppose it is subjective whether you consider Suleiman evil or not as he was a conqueror
23:45.57DrodoEmpirePerhaps yeah
23:46.24DrodoEmpirehttp://i.imgur.com/Tgw9qYB.jpg
23:46.26*** join/#sporewiki ImpyDroid (~Anders@95.140.92.95)
23:47.07HachimanA Suleiman equivalent for the Fantasyverse would be <3
23:48.09DrodoEmpirehttp://i.imgur.com/sEJ0vu2.jpg
23:48.20HachimanOuch
23:48.42OluapPlayerXho: eet sand, dere
23:49.24Xho“Ah, a fellow knight of Isiris's allies! You are somewhat trustworthy!”             http://reactionface.net/reactionface/images/original/310.jpg?new=1
23:49.52OluapPlayerhur
23:49.54Hachiman>Bidhuggiaq
23:49.59Hachimanbig hugs
23:50.18OluapPlayerNorrigan - come cuddle
23:50.30XhoKhaadun - go to mhor          does better hugs
23:50.55OluapPlayerLiteral bear hug
23:51.03XhoMhor - 10/10 got the reference
23:51.11HachimanSWEET ISIRIS, MHOR! THAT'S NOT HONEY!
23:51.11OluapPlayerUse Mhor more often pls
23:51.29XhoI like Mhor as a character but he's hard to use
23:51.46OluapPlayerSWEET ISIRIS, MHOR THAT'S NOT FISH              THAT'S A MERKAN               oh bother
23:51.50XhoKEK
23:51.51Xhokek
23:51.56HachimanI find him hard to
23:51.58HachimanBare
23:52.07OluapPlayerone more pun and I swear
23:52.15HachimanE-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E
23:52.22OluapPlayerSANS
23:53.06HachimanNow bear with me here
23:53.16XhoMhor - seriously
23:53.36XhoHachi makes pun at Mhor -> Mhor uses Hachi as toilet paper
23:53.42Hachimanolol
23:53.49OluapPlayerClotho - you can keep him
23:54.22XhoI'd like to use Taihadrae and Esulus more as well
23:54.59XhoMight do a Tales of Champions if I can
23:55.11OluapPlayertales of chimps
23:55.17HachimanMONKEY NEWS
23:55.34OluapPlayerWow I've not watched those in a while
23:55.48HachimanStop watching Swede and start watching Brit
23:56.00OluapPlayerBut Swede is playing Dorf Fort
23:56.11HachimanBut Brit has a head like a fuckin orange
23:56.31OluapPlayerDorf Fort > orange head

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