00:00.08 | Monet | Anything that happens in EVE usually happens outside of Carebear space. |
00:00.57 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
00:08.09 | AdmiralPanda | so in Archeage there's a kraken, under which (as in physically under which, at the bottom of hte sea) is the loot point for the rarest ship blueprint in the game |
00:08.42 | AdmiralPanda | the kraken spawn was basically mutually declared neutral waters, but also the place where a kraken was so people died a lot |
00:08.58 | AdmiralPanda | so naturally what my fleet did was harpoon enemy ships and drag them into the kraken spawn |
00:17.29 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
00:20.41 | Wormy_ | Xho_, DrodoEmpire, Hachiman http://imgur.com/NBeLWDl |
00:23.18 | Xho_ | ouch |
00:23.37 | Xho_ | Wormy_: I was just watching a video on inaccesible cardinals |
00:23.40 | Xho_ | Shit got scary |
00:24.23 | Wormy_ | Vsauce I guess? |
00:24.45 | Xho_ | yup |
00:25.03 | Xho_ | Mathematics was actually interesting for once |
00:25.10 | Wormy_ | Yeah it got very deep towards the ending |
00:25.29 | Wormy_ | The philosophy and actually concepts are awesome |
00:25.36 | Xho_ | must find a way to apply this to the Xhodocto |
00:26.17 | Wormy_ | Chaos is already very Gödelian |
00:26.33 | Wormy_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_incompleteness_theorems |
00:26.45 | Xho_ | "Fuck axioms" - Santorakh, whenever |
00:28.57 | Xho_ | Anyway, must sleep |
00:29.00 | Xho_ | If I can |
00:29.50 | Wormy_ | Mathematical hypnagogic dreams |
00:30.14 | Wormy_ | Well I do if I go to sleep thinking anout this stuff |
00:30.31 | Wormy_ | But i can never remember the visualisation of thought upon awakening |
00:30.36 | Wormy_ | *or |
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01:06.17 | dino82_ | hi |
01:06.20 | DrodoEmpire | Hi! |
01:07.07 | DrodoEmpire | Trying a cookies-and-cream Kit-Kat bar... |
01:07.17 | DrodoEmpire | ...Tastes... Alright... |
01:07.22 | DrodoEmpire | Pretty good actually |
01:07.33 | DrodoEmpire | Not radically different from normal bars though |
01:07.55 | AdmiralPanda | the chunky ones are pretty good, the regular ones aren't that different |
01:08.00 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
01:08.13 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah I'm having a semi-regular one |
01:08.51 | DrodoEmpire | It was a big pack of regular-sized kit kat pieces, which them themselves are divided into halfs. So not quite regular but basically so |
01:09.00 | DrodoEmpire | Same difference |
01:13.15 | AdmiralPanda | I discovered cookies and cream flavoured milk last week |
01:13.24 | AdmiralPanda | actually not too bad, but it was liquid so was eh |
01:14.56 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh |
01:15.09 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... How did people get *that* lazy? |
01:15.22 | DrodoEmpire | Get a cookie and get a glass of milk, put two-and-two together. >.< |
01:17.09 | AdmiralPanda | like you have to have actual cookie y'know |
01:17.33 | AdmiralPanda | actually, I had a cookie & cream cheesecake from the local market yesterday, I may have responded in a not entirely mature manner |
01:17.46 | DrodoEmpire | Oh dear. |
01:18.30 | AdmiralPanda | it was delicious, and I may have spent the rest of hte afternoon squeeing that it existed |
01:19.01 | DrodoEmpire | lol |
01:20.25 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, panda, have you ever tried HL2RP before? On GMod? |
01:23.03 | AdmiralPanda | no |
01:23.49 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
01:24.24 | DrodoEmpire | Well I guess technically its "CombineControl" that I play but its essentially the same thing (but don't tell them that :p) |
01:24.55 | DrodoEmpire | It can be pretty fun, but most of the time it moves at a *glacial* pace. |
01:25.18 | DrodoEmpire | You wouldn't lose too too much by having it entirely text-based, really, but still I enjoy it for what it is |
01:27.20 | AdmiralPanda | I play on a clone wars Gmod RP server, though sadly it's more a Gmod community playing on an RP server than an RP community playing on a Gmod server, if you get my meaning |
01:27.36 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... |
01:27.50 | DrodoEmpire | I've tried Clone wars before, and tbh I was unimpressed |
01:28.08 | DrodoEmpire | Mostly because they brand themselves as "serious"... Yet use barely-modified DarkRP gamemode script |
01:29.03 | DrodoEmpire | Most servers anyway |
01:29.26 | DrodoEmpire | I mean that's the killer for me, as it *could* be a good gamemode if provided they use something like Clockwork |
01:30.12 | DrodoEmpire | Something with only text, a slower pace, more atmosphere, and uses flags instead of that godawful job system >.< |
01:31.09 | DrodoEmpire | Good scripting like that tends to attract the right sort of people and discourage trolls by denying them their primary tools and in doing so improving the ability to RP seriousl |
01:31.10 | DrodoEmpire | *y |
01:33.32 | Wormy_ | Not ure if genuine but: "Sound finders were used in World War I to figure out which way enemy planes were coming from" http://i.imgur.com/plajl42.jpg |
01:34.28 | Wormy_ | portable tv 1967 http://i.imgur.com/vSA1Bq8.jpg |
01:34.38 | DrodoEmpire | They look pretty goofy |
01:34.59 | DrodoEmpire | But at the same time all kinds of crazy improvised shit came out of the trenches so I wouldn;t be very surprised if those are real |
01:47.37 | DrodoEmpire | Added a table, though its all fucked-up looking |
01:47.40 | DrodoEmpire | I'll fix it tomrrow |
01:47.47 | DrodoEmpire | *tomorrow |
01:53.25 | Wormy_ | be |
02:18.28 | DrodoCSGO | Time to get my ass kicked by people with better skins than me |
02:24.31 | DrodoCSGO | Currently playing the new de_nuke- The only map where bad framerate is a map mechanic |
02:24.32 | DrodoCSGO | :p |
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05:53.05 | AnonyLurk | http://vocaroo.com/i/s1T85P4no8gE |
05:53.15 | AnonyLurk | Post your favorite song as a Vocaroo link. |
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16:02.54 | Technobliterator | bleh |
16:03.03 | Technobliterator | I need to move the Cyrannus front don't I |
16:03.07 | Technobliterator | this one is definitely on me |
16:05.50 | OluapPlayer | Cyrannian was here yesterday |
16:06.02 | OluapPlayer | But then he left out of the sudden and didn't come back |
16:06.18 | Technobliterator | Yeah, but he's finished the recent section, so it's my turn |
16:06.25 | Technobliterator | I need Imp to finish his section |
16:10.28 | Xho | Killed scrubs |
16:10.30 | Xho | Still bored |
16:10.45 | Xho | Man this is the darkest IRC chat ever |
16:12.19 | OluapPlayer | Nothing we can do about it |
16:13.24 | Xho | amuse me mortals |
16:13.35 | OluapPlayer | u amuse me u spot |
16:14.03 | Xho | kicks OluapPlayer between the legs |
16:14.04 | Xho | der |
16:14.09 | OluapPlayer | u failed |
16:15.34 | Technobliterator | it's really not |
16:15.41 | Technobliterator | you should see some of the ones I idle on |
16:15.45 | Technobliterator | this is so active compared |
16:29.33 | Wormy_ | For something lighter there's a bird called the Greater Honeyguide that has a specific call to humans and shows them where bee hives can be found https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_honeyguide |
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16:48.45 | DrodoEmpire | Hey |
16:51.57 | Xho | Hachiman OluapPlayer: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/2/26/Caedes2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20160417165105 THE MAN IS A TREE |
16:52.52 | OluapPlayer | skelly head |
16:54.07 | DrodoEmpire | spoppy skletoes |
16:54.09 | DrodoEmpire | <.< |
16:54.43 | Xho | fail |
16:54.54 | DrodoEmpire | >: |
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17:12.52 | DrodoEmpire | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfjTlj2WEAA90yF.jpg:large |
17:25.14 | Wormy_ | lol |
17:29.14 | Xho | OluapPlayer Hachiman Imperios: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Enamal_Caedes tree |
17:29.27 | OluapPlayer | fruit/10 |
17:29.42 | Imperios | > O?N?E?.? O?N?E.? ?ONE?. O?NE. ONE?. ?ONE?.? ?O?NE.? |
17:30.06 | Imperios | Soldiercaedes |
17:30.28 | Xho | sad but tru |
17:31.00 | OluapPlayer | So he's no longer Asv-Aldz's punching bag |
17:31.26 | Xho | I thought it was a bit dumb really, the fact he's a product of getting mindfucked by all the crazy Simulacra proved worse than being a punchbag |
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17:33.11 | Imperios | This reminds me |
17:33.28 | Imperios | Since I had this human corporation in Andromeda as a shout-out to the Empire of Man |
17:34.06 | Imperios | There should also be an altered human bioengineering company that serves as its rival |
17:34.10 | Imperios | Based on the Dryadali sovereign |
17:34.19 | Imperios | Probably centered around Borealis if OP lets me |
17:35.32 | OluapPlayer | You should work on the actual Sovereignty |
17:35.47 | Imperios | Me? |
17:36.18 | OluapPlayer | Don't you own half of it? |
17:36.37 | Imperios | Of the Sovereignty? |
17:36.46 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
17:37.00 | Imperios | I am not sure |
17:37.11 | Imperios | I have like two races of which only one is truly important |
17:38.16 | Imperios | I once suggested I could help but it was not something large-scale |
17:39.20 | OluapPlayer | I was always under the impression you co-owned it |
17:39.40 | OluapPlayer | But yes, you can make your thing in Borealis if you want |
17:40.04 | Imperios | I was under the impression it was co-owned between you and Hachiman |
17:40.09 | Imperios | With me making occasional contributions |
17:40.45 | OluapPlayer | I've no ownership of anything in it |
17:42.32 | Imperios | You have contributed like half of its races |
17:42.59 | OluapPlayer | I have two races |
17:43.08 | OluapPlayer | I made Aynach for the Empire but I don't co-own it |
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17:45.48 | The_Randomness | Hello |
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17:59.18 | Luxor | Ayy |
18:01.13 | Imperios | annexes Luxor |
18:01.29 | Luxor | oh f*g |
18:01.43 | Luxor | You won't create the Kingdom of Poland again! |
18:20.21 | Imperios | Luxor: No, I will simply take your throne and make into a toilet |
18:20.21 | Imperios | Again |
18:20.27 | Luxor | Eh |
18:20.40 | Luxor | There are two things that never changes |
18:20.45 | Luxor | War |
18:20.51 | Luxor | and Russian government type |
18:20.59 | Luxor | "Propaganda Despotate" |
18:22.58 | Luxor | Uh, and the polish opinion about Russia. |
18:23.19 | Imperios | I thought you hated Muslims more than us now |
18:24.42 | Luxor | Both |
18:25.06 | Luxor | And saying that I hate muslims is a huge misunderstanding here |
18:25.29 | Luxor | I rather think that islam is simply uncompatible with civilization and common sense |
18:25.49 | Luxor | ...and being aware of the fact that we are no longer in middle ages |
18:28.53 | Imperios | Go to Kazan and see how wrong you are |
18:29.01 | Imperios | But I rather won't go too much into it |
18:29.36 | Imperios | But yeah typical Pole hur |
18:29.44 | Luxor | hur |
18:29.46 | Imperios | Long story short, it is the Saudi branch of fundamental Islam, Salafism, that is mostly to blame |
18:29.55 | Luxor | Ikr, but Kazakhstan is trurly a modern society |
18:30.03 | Imperios | Tatarstan not Kazakhstan |
18:30.11 | Luxor | I am speaking of Kazakhstan now |
18:30.15 | Luxor | I know where Kazan is |
18:30.28 | Imperios | Kazakhstan is another example of a (fairly) developed secular mostly Muslim country yeah |
18:30.47 | Luxor | true |
18:31.00 | Luxor | Doe yes, i should've said that I mean Arab countries |
18:31.27 | Luxor | Loads of crap occurs there |
18:40.12 | Xho | Hm what to do |
18:43.54 | OluapPlayer | things |
18:44.56 | Xho | fukin great 10/10 |
18:45.04 | Imperios | Luxor: Again, more of a Saudi influence |
18:45.15 | Imperios | Maybe Israel contributed somewhat |
18:45.30 | Wormy_ | A lot of it political more than religious. |
18:45.34 | Imperios | In general I think the further is an Arab country from, well, Arabia (Saudi Arabia), the better it fares in terms of culture |
18:45.44 | Imperios | Egypt (especially pre-Spring), Lebanon for example |
18:46.28 | Imperios | There's Mauritania though with its slave problem |
18:47.36 | Imperios | Morocco I have not read much about but it is fairly quiet so not so problematic either |
18:47.50 | Luxor | Bock |
18:48.17 | Luxor | And if so |
18:48.35 | Luxor | Tunisia is the only modern arab country that is trying to build democracy |
18:48.44 | Imperios | Lebanon |
18:48.50 | Luxor | (Not speaking 'bout Turkce cause it already has autocracy) |
18:48.53 | Imperios | >Turkce |
18:48.58 | Imperios | >modern arab country |
18:49.00 | Imperios | >Turkce |
18:49.01 | Imperios | >arab |
18:49.02 | Imperios | >Turk |
18:49.03 | Imperios | >arab |
18:49.06 | Luxor | Remove |
18:49.33 | Imperios | Yes I fully believe in removing Erdoroach but let's focus on Arab countries |
18:50.13 | Luxor | but |
18:50.15 | Luxor | remove |
18:50.17 | Luxor | kebab |
18:50.49 | Imperios | Yes remove kebab but kebab is not shawarma |
18:51.02 | Luxor | shwarma is tasty |
18:51.04 | Imperios | We were talking about schawarma and couscous, kebab is another country |
18:51.23 | Wormy_ | Stop. |
18:51.37 | Luxor | Well |
18:51.41 | Luxor | I am not the one to sustain this |
18:51.51 | Wormy_ | I'm telling you both. |
18:51.54 | Imperios | Ok |
18:52.53 | Luxor | If we are to discuss in slav-style I guess we should do this in pm |
18:53.23 | Imperios | While reading about Morocco I found this https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Lehnert_Landrock_-_Ouled_Na%C3%AFl_Girl_-_Algeria_-_1905.jpg |
18:53.27 | Imperios | DAAAAAM |
18:53.34 | Imperios | DAAAYUM even |
18:54.33 | Wormy_ | I've spent half the day studying the history of a) the Holocaust b) the nuclear attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I'm not in the mood for this. |
18:54.49 | Wormy_ | So its best taken elsewhere |
18:54.53 | Imperios | http://www.frenchcreoles.com/@ARM775~Young-Berber-Girl-Posters.jpg <3333 |
18:55.00 | Imperios | http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/images/sub3/hulyaavsar.jpg <33333333 |
18:55.12 | Luxor | Conclusion: Jews are responsible for every bad thing which ever occured during human civilization existence |
18:55.21 | Imperios | Okay I am officially in love with North African women |
18:55.25 | Luxor | involving first crime, the giant flood, World War 2 |
18:55.32 | Luxor | and Commie revolt |
18:58.15 | Luxor | https://scontent-waw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12791036_345430728914062_6610397792390096704_n.jpg?oh=62f46ef5179e4372cde7c6b923469a90&oe=5780143A |
18:59.48 | Charles_Murray | test |
19:00.28 | Charles_Murray | Wormy_ Unless there is consensus in the chat that what they're doing is annoying/counterproductive, it might be best to look away if it's bothering you specifically |
19:00.51 | Charles_Murray | This is a public chat, and as far as I can see they're not breaking any rules |
19:03.37 | Luxor | I'm afraid that April fiction polls are a bit late |
19:11.22 | Imperios | Actually yeah wehre are the polls |
19:12.47 | OluapPlayer | Cyrannian makes the polls |
19:12.53 | OluapPlayer | And he's been inactive due to college |
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19:14.57 | Ghelae | Hello. |
19:15.51 | Imperios | Let someone else do it |
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19:25.50 | The_Randomness_ | freenode pls |
19:29.01 | Monet | I agree with Imp |
19:30.10 | OluapPlayer | Make suggestions then |
19:33.12 | Imperios | Hm |
19:33.43 | Imperios | Confectrix |
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19:33.54 | Imperios | Kelodhrosi Commonwealth |
19:33.57 | Imperios | As for the creatures... |
19:34.19 | Imperios | Let's pick an old one |
19:34.35 | Imperios | Actually yeah how about we have old creatures fight each other |
19:34.52 | Imperios | Grims, Rambo, Xhods |
19:34.53 | Imperios | Maybe Libs and my rats |
19:37.45 | Imperios | Stories |
19:37.57 | Imperios | I nominate Odyssey of the Desert and Doctrina Venefica |
19:38.04 | Imperios | As well as |
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19:43.44 | OluapPlayer | Some of these have already been featured |
19:45.07 | Imperios | These were featured years ago |
19:45.14 | Imperios | They can be refeatured I believe |
19:45.15 | Imperios | At least Cyr has said so |
19:46.04 | Imperios | I think we can use 2012 stories |
19:46.11 | OluapPlayer | Some of these have already been featured |
19:46.21 | OluapPlayer | Oh you're making the polls |
19:46.23 | OluapPlayer | Alright |
19:48.18 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: I believe 2012 and 2013 creatures can be used again |
19:48.30 | OluapPlayer | I got it the first time you said it |
19:49.32 | Monet | IIRC any creature that was chosen at least a year ago can be re-nominated |
19:50.57 | Imperios | Alright gimme potential characters |
19:56.24 | Imperios | For the poll |
19:57.34 | OluapPlayer | I've no suggestions |
19:57.39 | Imperios | ...Guys |
19:57.41 | Imperios | ? |
19:57.50 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, sorry |
19:57.58 | DrodoEmpire | Hm |
19:58.02 | DrodoEmpire | Characters I dunno what |
19:58.43 | DrodoEmpire | I;m usually not good with nomination in general. >.< |
19:59.13 | Imperios | ...Screw it I made four characters this month, I'll just fill the poll with four of them hur |
19:59.13 | Imperios | YOU HAVE CHOICE, ME, ME OR ME |
20:00.09 | OluapPlayer | This is featured wiki articles, not featured Imperios pages |
20:00.14 | The_Randomness | ^ |
20:01.16 | Xho | shredded |
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20:10.36 | Tek0516 | Woo. Biked my way from campus to Parliament Hill. |
20:15.36 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:March_and_April:_Featured_Character_Poll |
20:16.05 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:March_and_April:_Featured_Story_Poll |
20:16.11 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:March_and_April:_Featured_Creature_Poll |
20:16.15 | Imperios | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Top_10_list:March_and_April:_Featured_Empire_Poll |
20:19.03 | Xho | OluapPlayer: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/13043351_1549847875044660_6734169221508090668_n.jpg?oh=5720e5a528670ea8d26b96193fc6589b&oe=57B9100F |
20:19.27 | OluapPlayer | BEES |
20:44.06 | DrodoEmpire | test |
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20:47.24 | Ghelae | Hello. |
20:56.12 | Tybusen | Hello |
21:00.56 | Tek0516 | Hello Tybusen. And DrodoEmpire passes |
21:03.01 | Tek0516 | It's 23°C and there's snow and ice on the ground. O.o https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/iSsv2tJv/20160417_164229.jpg |
21:03.15 | Xho | winter is coming |
21:03.16 | Xho | again |
21:07.31 | Xho | Wish it was warmer here |
21:07.46 | Xho | Currently 6 C |
21:07.49 | Wormy_ | Remember when IrskaadServ (Minecraft) when it got taken over by the ice bug? |
21:07.49 | Xho | Then again it's 10 pm |
21:09.05 | Hachiman | That reminds me |
21:09.11 | Hachiman | My boiler broke, so I am left without hot water |
21:09.19 | Hachiman | I will have to use the kettle to wash |
21:09.27 | Xho | back to 1965 for you |
21:10.21 | OluapPlayer | Meanwhile it's 31ºC here |
21:10.38 | OluapPlayer | With a thermic sensation of 40ºC |
21:10.43 | Xho | 2hot |
21:10.45 | Xho | 2HOT |
21:11.04 | OluapPlayer | I think it was at thursday, the thermic sensation was at 46ºC |
21:11.13 | Xho | 3HOT |
21:11.21 | Wormy_ | I would die. |
21:11.30 | Xho | The warmest it's gonna get this week is 14 C |
21:11.54 | Xho | That's t-shirt weather for us |
21:12.16 | Wormy_ | Yes 14 degrees makes a happy Brit |
21:12.55 | Wormy_ | Everybody sums up the courage/cheefulness to say "hello" |
21:15.18 | Xho | I'm going to Greece in July, it's not gonna be much hotter than 30 C |
21:15.21 | Xho | Still 2hot for a brit |
21:15.58 | Xho | Down here in the south the hottest it might get is 32 C |
21:16.06 | Xho | That's a rare occasion though |
21:16.12 | Wormy_ | Same here |
21:16.29 | Xho | The hottest I think it's been down here in recent memory is 36 C but that was years ago |
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21:16.47 | Xho | Anything hotter than 25 C kills the xho |
21:16.48 | Wormy_ | I remember one day in 2006 when it reached 36 degrees C, but then last year had a higher record. |
21:17.17 | Wormy_ | Tbh I would be happy for it to stay as warm as it gets now for the rest of the year |
21:17.55 | Xho | I'd like to have some warmer nights though |
21:18.03 | Xho | It's gonna be like 1 C tomorrow morning |
21:18.13 | Xho | For mid April that's getting tedious |
21:18.26 | Wormy_ | I'll be travelling through that tomorrow |
21:18.49 | Wormy_ | Also I like the late summer light that is coming |
21:19.00 | Xho | Yeah |
21:19.07 | Xho | I hate it when it got dark at like 5pm |
21:19.11 | Xho | Or earlier |
21:19.16 | Xho | hated* as well |
21:19.28 | Xho | It gets dark around 8pm now |
21:19.36 | Xho | Or thereabouts, probably a little earlier |
21:19.45 | Wormy_ | It will be 11'ish by the height of summer |
21:20.06 | Wormy_ | And dawn again at 3 in the morning |
21:20.12 | Wormy_ | ish |
21:20.21 | Hachiman | Xho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wphawoHiUUg Wait for it |
21:21.59 | Xho | Good grief |
21:22.33 | Hachiman | I DROPPED MY MONSTER CONDOM |
21:22.36 | Hachiman | THAT I USE FOR MY |
21:22.38 | Hachiman | MAGNUM DONG |
21:23.37 | Tek0516 | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1460904126-20160417.png |
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23:17.55 | Hachiman | But then, the USA healthcare system is fucked |
23:17.59 | Tybusen | Hachiman: If it's ok for you to censor a neo-Nazi, is it ok for a neo-Nazi to censor you? |
23:18.10 | ImpyDroid | Xho: Fatimanis al-Wardiin and her lover, Peteler |
23:18.21 | Hachiman | Tybusen: Hm I see your point |
23:18.30 | Technobliterator | Hachiman, if you start to limit free speech, you only allow the sentiments to grow, and you open up the possibility of anyone censoring you |
23:18.33 | Monet | When the government is granted the power to revoke free speech for groups like the KKK or WBC, what's to say they don't silence something like Gay Pride or Black Lives Matter? |
23:18.39 | Technobliterator | It's better to defeat bad ideas with better ideas |
23:18.42 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
23:18.47 | Hachiman | BLM should be silenced |
23:18.50 | Hachiman | Fuck that shit |
23:18.53 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... |
23:18.55 | Hachiman | Pro-black anti-white racists |
23:18.57 | Technobliterator | That's why free speech works |
23:19.02 | DrodoEmpire | BLM's a bit crazy but the point remains |
23:19.05 | ImpyDroid | Put them all into one arena plz |
23:19.07 | Technobliterator | Because the good ideas will float to the top |
23:19.07 | Hachiman | Again, not an equality movement |
23:19.10 | ImpyDroid | And let them fight |
23:19.20 | DrodoEmpire | Still, we can't censor them- Only ridicule them |
23:19.20 | Technobliterator | BLM do some stupid stuff |
23:19.30 | Technobliterator | they basically hurt their cause |
23:19.34 | Xho | ImpyDroid: The Islamist Hunger Games: Mockingoryx Part II |
23:19.39 | Technobliterator | just like tumblr "feminists" |
23:19.39 | ImpyDroid | (I am not speaking seriously but still imagine this) |
23:19.43 | Technobliterator | have basically destroyed their cause |
23:19.46 | ImpyDroid | Here it goes |
23:19.55 | Tybusen | BLM had a good cause at the start but they've been bogged down by their lack of centralization and high proportion of egotistical idiots |
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23:20.05 | Technobliterator | I agree, Ty |
23:20.07 | Technobliterator | hi panda |
23:20.10 | Hachiman | FUCK AUSTRALIA REMOVE KANGAROOS |
23:20.11 | AdmiralPanda | hi all |
23:20.12 | DrodoEmpire | Tech: The thing with BLM is that they have some genuine grievances- Black people in the united states tend to have it pretty bad but BLM isn't the answer |
23:20.14 | Hachiman | Oh hi Panda |
23:20.23 | Technobliterator | Of course they do |
23:20.23 | AdmiralPanda | FUCK YOU KANGAROOS WILL CASTRATE YOUI |
23:20.26 | ImpyDroid | 2 Islamists, 2 White supremacists, 2 BLM activists, 2 WBC members, 2 Tumblr feminists, 2 Sargonbots |
23:20.32 | ImpyDroid | Put them into one small area |
23:20.39 | ImpyDroid | Give them all roughly comparable weaponry |
23:20.50 | Monet | Hachiman: My point is once you give the state the power to silence the voice of some groups, what's to say they won't one day silence groups that aren't harmfu lexcept to the status quo? |
23:20.55 | ImpyDroid | Feminists and Sargonbots being non-combatants get a little bit more |
23:20.56 | Technobliterator | That's my ponit, that hese groups have hurt their cause so badly |
23:20.57 | Xho | How did we get here from Ted Cruz = Zodiac Killer anyway |
23:20.58 | DrodoEmpire | Again I disagree with the whole sargon thing but whatever |
23:20.59 | ImpyDroid | Lock them up |
23:20.59 | Tybusen | Their original goal, which was addressing undue police brutality towards black people, is a noble goal, but they've grown too big and have no focus anymore |
23:21.01 | ImpyDroid | WATCH |
23:21.06 | Hachiman | "My wife was giving me suggestive hints earlier about a sex toy she wanted, she said "it begins with D and ends with O". I have no idea where I am going to get a didgeridoo from" |
23:21.18 | Technobliterator | They basically have turned people off them |
23:21.26 | AdmiralPanda | Hachiman: find a tree with termites |
23:21.32 | Hachiman | Oh God |
23:21.56 | AdmiralPanda | that's actually how you do it, how else did you think they hollowed out the branch? |
23:22.05 | Hachiman | They hollowed it with tools? |
23:22.08 | Xho | Strayan drillin' |
23:22.16 | Charles_Bot | Tybusen : Welcome to populism |
23:22.17 | ImpyDroid | >Aborigines |
23:22.18 | Tybusen | I understand the underlying message of BLM and I support addressing the serious systematic racism towards black people, but BLM's reputation makes it hard to talk about the situation without their antics coming up |
23:22.22 | ImpyDroid | >tools |
23:22.27 | Xho | ImpyDroid: >Aubergines |
23:22.34 | Hachiman | >Envelopes |
23:22.54 | ImpyDroid | As I said |
23:23.00 | ImpyDroid | Extremist hunger games when |
23:23.12 | Tybusen | The thing is, BLM would probably be a much stronger movement if they had managed to get organized, centralized, and focused before they were overtaken by the idiots and radicalists |
23:23.13 | DrodoEmpire | sargon being an extremist k |
23:23.14 | ImpyDroid | I only hope they do receive that in hell as punishment |
23:23.23 | ImpyDroid | Sargonbots |
23:23.29 | ImpyDroid | Not Sargon |
23:23.30 | DrodoEmpire | Who're they even? |
23:23.33 | Xho | Seriously though how did we get here from Ted Cruz |
23:23.36 | Hachiman | Sargon is like a meninist Anita Sarkeesian lol |
23:23.39 | Tybusen | MLK and his Civil Rights movement was able to get some real change through by being centralized, focused, and mobilized |
23:23.42 | DrodoEmpire | Hardly. :p |
23:23.42 | ImpyDroid | Sargon attracts followers much crazier than him |
23:23.53 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh he attracts a mixed crowd sure |
23:24.04 | Hachiman | I mean, just look at yourself Drodo |
23:24.20 | DrodoEmpire | Choose your next words carefully bud |
23:24.27 | Hachiman | Don't call me bud, chum |
23:24.50 | Xho | good lord |
23:24.55 | DrodoEmpire | Then tell me what you meant by that, bud |
23:25.29 | Hachiman | Now listen here my buddy chum pal friend buddy pal chum bud friend fella bruther amigo pal buddy friend chummy chum chum pal |
23:25.33 | Monet | puts a helmet on |
23:25.57 | DrodoEmpire | Tybusen: Had BLM gotten organized beyond dumbass college kids then their ideas could've been less radical and more focused yeah |
23:26.20 | Technobliterator | Well, MLK was explicit about being non-violent in his approcah |
23:26.24 | Technobliterator | BLM have been violent many times |
23:26.27 | Hachiman | I don't mean to be rude my friend pal home slice bread slice dawg but I gotta warn you, if you take one more diddly darn step right there I'm going to have to diddly darn snap your neck |
23:26.30 | Technobliterator | And extremely obtrusive |
23:26.32 | Tybusen | MLK was also a strong central figure for his movement |
23:26.43 | Tybusen | Again, my point about centralization and focus |
23:26.49 | Charles_Bot | That's not quite it |
23:26.52 | Tybusen | BLM lacks focus, and so they are a weak and ineffective movement |
23:26.55 | Technobliterator | Hard to really care for your cause when you scream about how racist people are |
23:26.55 | DrodoEmpire | And actually address issues such as economic problems and the deterioration of the traditional family in the black community which are big problems |
23:27.00 | Monet | Is there a leader for BLM?] |
23:27.02 | Technobliterator | And assume any white person is racist |
23:27.03 | DrodoEmpire | Not really |
23:27.05 | Technobliterator | it's just so sad |
23:27.08 | Tybusen | BLM has no leader |
23:27.16 | Hachiman | Monet: Tyrone, King of Da Niggaz |
23:27.17 | Technobliterator | because it means so few people notice real racism |
23:27.48 | Tybusen | Their original rallying figure was Michael Brown but it's kind of spiraled out of control, and Mike Brown was found to have been guilty of shoplifting before he was shot |
23:28.03 | ImpyDroid | Well |
23:28.09 | ImpyDroid | I think all of us are racist |
23:28.14 | ImpyDroid | So in a sense this is true |
23:28.16 | Hachiman | The actual leader of BLM is Dindu Nuffin |
23:28.18 | Technobliterator | what |
23:28.21 | Charles_Bot | BPM was centralized and organized, and they weren't very effecitive |
23:28.23 | Technobliterator | ._. |
23:28.32 | Xho | remove white |
23:28.52 | Tybusen | BPM was a smaller group, though, from what I remember |
23:28.55 | DrodoEmpire | I don't think so, Impy. :p |
23:28.56 | ImpyDroid | We all make judgements based on appearance and race in particular, even if we do unconsciously |
23:29.01 | ImpyDroid | It is a matter of biology |
23:29.04 | Tybusen | I'm talking more movements on the scale of BLM, Occupy, etc. |
23:29.13 | DrodoEmpire | If it doesn't affect my conscious decisions then I'm not concerned |
23:29.19 | Technobliterator | Occupy did such an awful job |
23:29.26 | Hachiman | Like how Japanese grills are all flat-chested |
23:29.34 | Monet | Such great ideas, such haphazard execution |
23:29.44 | ImpyDroid | Ay |
23:29.49 | Technobliterator | ImpyDroid, that's prejudice, not racism |
23:29.50 | Tybusen | MLK's movement managed to stay organized even once they broke onto the national scale |
23:30.01 | Technobliterator | Racism is if you think you are superior because of it |
23:30.18 | ImpyDroid | Well that is quite prevalent as well I think |
23:30.18 | Tybusen | I mean, it's true that we are psychologically wired to be prejudicial, which can include racism |
23:30.22 | DrodoEmpire | Racism is prejudice based on race. Racial supremacy is what you defined |
23:30.22 | Xho | Hachiman: WELCOME TO THE RICE FIELDS MOTHERFUCKER |
23:30.30 | Tybusen | But that doesn't mean we can't make a conscious effort to not be racist |
23:30.35 | ImpyDroid | Aye we should |
23:30.59 | DrodoEmpire | Well, uh, for me its a matter of not really caring about the nationality of somebody. :p |
23:31.03 | DrodoEmpire | I need not make it an effort |
23:31.06 | Hachiman | HEY ESÃ, I BROKE INTO YOUR CAR |
23:31.24 | Xho | Okay that's got me linguistically confused |
23:31.38 | Xho | Hm so it is esé |
23:31.47 | Xho | Well the more you know |
23:31.54 | DrodoEmpire | I'm quite concerned if somebody needs to consciously suppress a racist feeling. :p |
23:31.54 | Hachiman | I don't even know what the word means hur |
23:32.33 | Xho | Dude, man, etc. |
23:32.41 | Hachiman | Dudebro |
23:32.57 | Tybusen | DrodoEmpire: I always try to avoid conscious racism, and even then I try to look at my own actions from time to time to see if I'm being unconsiciously racist |
23:33.02 | Xho | I misread that as Daedra |
23:33.07 | Xho | Too much Oblivion |
23:33.27 | ImpyDroid | Maybe it's just because we and Tybusen are Asian and Asians are racist in general hur |
23:33.51 | Hachiman | Shame you cannot drive cars to save your lives |
23:33.57 | ImpyDroid | Which is in itself a racist saying against Asians which only serves to prove my point which is thus in itself racist ad infinitum |
23:33.57 | Xho | oooooooooooooooh |
23:34.14 | Xho | Unfortunately I've been victim to that racial stereotype |
23:34.16 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: It is all a matter of context |
23:34.20 | Xho | Got cut up by an asian driver |
23:34.29 | Hachiman | With his katana or |
23:34.31 | ImpyDroid | Remember who I am living with |
23:34.33 | Xho | OOOOOOOOH |
23:34.43 | ImpyDroid | Like it is very easy to be comparatively good at driving |
23:34.45 | ImpyDroid | IN RUSSIA |
23:34.58 | DrodoEmpire | Tybusen: I don't really see how one can be unconsciously racist, unless someone was brought up by racist people. :p It sounds more like presuming the offense of people who aren't the same ethnicity as you tbh |
23:34.59 | Tybusen | I don't know if they've conducted any studies recently regarding whether the Asian driver stereotype has a grain of truth in it still |
23:35.01 | Xho | You drive cars warped and damaged to a non-euclidean degree |
23:35.10 | DrodoEmpire | I mean good thing you're self-aware, don't get me wrong |
23:35.15 | Tybusen | DrodoEmpire: Oh, people can definitely be unconsciously racist |
23:35.17 | DrodoEmpire | But self-aware about *what* |
23:35.34 | Hachiman | Aye I agree there |
23:35.37 | Hachiman | Subconscious racism |
23:35.43 | Tybusen | We tend to pick up unconscious racism from socialization |
23:35.43 | DrodoEmpire | May I have an example? |
23:35.53 | DrodoEmpire | Do you mean things like little biases? |
23:36.04 | Xho | Tybusen: Is that sociological socilaisation or just general socialisation |
23:36.09 | Tybusen | It can be as simple as clutching your purse more tightly when you see a black person walk by |
23:36.17 | Tybusen | Xho: It can be both |
23:36.30 | ImpyDroid | Tybusen: It has more to do with culture rather than actual race I think |
23:36.54 | ImpyDroid | Simply enough China and the like have less experience with cars than European countries |
23:36.55 | Tybusen | Well, that's what socialization in the sociological sense is |
23:36.58 | DrodoEmpire | In that case, quite possibly. But really I'm not too concerned if it doesn't affect my conscious decisions. :p |
23:37.00 | ImpyDroid | Still better drivers than Russians |
23:37.18 | Xho | Right I need to go to sleep |
23:37.28 | Hachiman | FUCK OFF K THX BAI |
23:37.30 | Tybusen | DrodoEmpire: I guess we just hold ourselves to different standards, which is fine |
23:37.31 | DrodoEmpire | I get along fine with people who aren't whiter than vanilla ice cream (like myself), for example. |
23:37.32 | Xho | cunt |
23:37.35 | Hachiman | Cnut |
23:37.36 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
23:37.40 | Xho | Knutr |
23:37.42 | DrodoEmpire | I think I get what you're saying anyway |
23:37.46 | Hachiman | Nutter |
23:37.52 | Xho | RONNIE PICKERING |
23:37.58 | Hachiman | WHO THE FUCK'S THAT |
23:38.00 | Xho | RONNIE PICKERING |
23:38.06 | Hachiman | WHO |
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23:38.38 | DrodoEmpire | Well I mean, so long as said person isn't an asswipe, then I won't get along fine. :p |
23:39.06 | Tybusen | A lot of subconscious racism can be things that will hardly be noticed by the "victims," I just personally try to cut back on my subconscious racism because I wouldn't want to be responsible for anyone ever feeling uncomfortable on a basis of race |
23:39.32 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
23:40.11 | ImpyDroid | Tybusen: I think in the black example you mentioned class plays a large role as well |
23:40.35 | ImpyDroid | For example I doubt you'd hold your purse if Ainsley was walking nearby |
23:40.52 | ImpyDroid | Or Idris Elba or any other middle-class or upper-class black man or woman |
23:41.06 | Tybusen | ImpyDroid: Thing is though that, at least in the US, race has a correlation with class partly due to systemic racism |
23:41.22 | DrodoEmpire | I mean of course not, I'd praise Ainsley's oiling-up abilities |
23:41.40 | Tybusen | Well obviously |
23:42.06 | Tybusen | Oiling up transcends all social boundaries |
23:42.33 | Tybusen | A well oiled man is well oiled regardless of race, creed, or sex |
23:42.51 | ImpyDroid | True that |
23:43.26 | DrodoEmpire | Due to the legacy of such racism at least. Like I said, many black people have it pretty bad, what with inadequate housing, poor-paying jobs, and the destruction of the family unit. |
23:43.29 | Hachiman | Get Ainsley to solve the oil crisis |
23:43.30 | DrodoEmpire | Among a million other things |
23:44.14 | DrodoEmpire | As for systemic racism in the modern day I dunno- If I understand the definition correctly, then you're going to have to point to a law or an instrument of government that discriminates based on race and is not a universal |
23:45.16 | Tybusen | As far as I understand it, racism is not really written explicitly into law, but the nuances of law as well as leftovers from past racism and personal racism are what lead to modern systemic racism |
23:46.16 | Tybusen | I think public education has a tendency to be under-funded in regions that have higher proportions of blacks, Hispanics/Latinos, or other ethnic minorities |
23:46.20 | DrodoEmpire | If it isn't written as part of a system, then it isn't systemic. It *may* be endemic but seeing as most americans in most regions do not think of themselves or come off as racists I'm skeptical of that claim as well |
23:46.37 | DrodoEmpire | It may very well be |
23:46.43 | DrodoEmpire | Inner-city schools have a horrible reputation |
23:46.56 | DrodoEmpire | That can disproportionately affect minorities living in that area |
23:47.21 | DrodoEmpire | Or, more specifically because many minority peoples live in that area and make up most of the school population |
23:47.41 | DrodoEmpire | But now link that to racist policies or the prejudices of the government |
23:47.46 | DrodoEmpire | Or whoever's funding it |
23:47.50 | Tybusen | They have also found that blacks are disproportionately detained or imprisoned for drug charges relative to the proportions of whites who are use drugs |
23:48.03 | DrodoEmpire | Again, not saying there isn't a problem, becuase there is. But the cause of it must be accurately pinned down |
23:48.36 | Tybusen | Like I said, systemic racism and personal racism are both much more subtle today than they were 50 years ago, so it's harder to pin it down where it lies |
23:49.07 | DrodoEmpire | My point is that it may not be blatant racial prejudice at all causing it, nor a racist system |
23:49.22 | Tybusen | Some instances of systemic racism may not even be conscious, they could be the result of personal unconscious racism pervading parts of the system |
23:49.23 | DrodoEmpire | Which doesn't mean there isn't an issue disproportionately affect a racial minority |
23:49.27 | DrodoEmpire | As there clearly is |
23:49.46 | DrodoEmpire | But that's completely unchangeable, and impossible to prove |
23:50.01 | DrodoEmpire | So we can't really fix that assuming it so much as is an issue |
23:50.17 | DrodoEmpire | I see it like this0 |
23:50.33 | DrodoEmpire | Are there racist people in positions of power? Of course, there's bound to be, and they |
23:50.40 | DrodoEmpire | *they're probably part of the problem |
23:50.47 | Hachiman | "I don't know how anyone can say they're vegan while still eating dick and ass." |
23:50.55 | DrodoEmpire | Are they the sole cause, or even a large part of the cause? Probably not I have to conclude |
23:51.03 | DrodoEmpire | This is me being skeptical is all |
23:51.15 | Tybusen | I think it's also an issue of the lasting economic effects of past racism, and a correlation with the fact that economic mobility is a problem in modern US society, at least |
23:51.23 | DrodoEmpire | Oh I definitely agree there |
23:51.37 | DrodoEmpire | The legacy of racism lives on in the economic positions of a lot of people |
23:53.21 | Tybusen | I know that in the University of California system, blacks are majorly underrepresented compared to Asians and Whites, and it may have to do also with the fact that the UCs probably prefer to admit high-income applicants and that blacks as a whole are economically disadvantaged |
23:54.30 | Tybusen | I think, in the modern age, racism has become less of a social issue feeding an economic issue, and is now much more an economic issue feeding a social issue |
23:55.15 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
23:55.17 | Hachiman | Man, fuck it; I decided the only true religion we should be following in the 21st Century is Juggaloism |
23:55.45 | Hachiman | Fire, water, air, and dirt; fucking magnets, how do they work |
23:56.51 | Tybusen | "The four elements lived together in peace and harmony, but then everything changed when the Magnets attacked" |
23:57.00 | DrodoEmpire | darn |
23:59.04 | DrodoEmpire | I swear every time a person logs onto a CloneWarsRP server a kitten cries. |