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| 00:49.04 | The_Randomness | Hello |
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| 09:05.30 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink: http://cs4.pikabu.ru/post_img/2015/08/14/7/1439550618_24822479.JPG |
| 09:06.02 | Liquid_Ink | What does it say? |
| 09:07.36 | ImpyDroid | "Who is worthy of Walhalla?" |
| 09:08.30 | ImpyDroid | Wait |
| 09:08.36 | ImpyDroid | Is it Valhalla or Walhalla |
| 09:09.59 | Liquid_Ink | Valhalla |
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| 11:25.40 | ImpyDroid2 | FUCKING SNOW IN FUCKING APRIL |
| 11:31.59 | Wormy_ | Not that unusual, even for us |
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| 12:05.45 | Wormy_ | hi |
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| 12:26.53 | ImpyDroid | Wormy_: http://i.imgur.com/yu4j5kX.png |
| 12:27.43 | Wormy_ | lol |
| 12:31.01 | ImpyDroid | Vincent20100: http://i.imgur.com/2guBWhI.png |
| 12:31.55 | ImpyDroid | Holy shit Quebec is huge |
| 12:32.06 | ImpyDroid | Always thought it was a relatively small region |
| 12:32.13 | ImpyDroid | Maybe because the city has the same name |
| 12:41.09 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/4tTY34U |
| 13:20.09 | ImpyDroid | Wormy_: Hachiville |
| 13:23.31 | ImpyDroid | Blarg coursework problematics are due tomorrow |
| 13:23.58 | ImpyDroid | And I have no idea about how the problematics thing should be structured |
| 13:30.53 | Wormy_ | What are "problematics"? |
| 13:35.07 | Wormy_ | bbl |
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| 14:06.23 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/4/4c/The_Dervish.png/revision/latest?cb=20160414140213 Enslaver's avatar |
| 14:07.52 | OluapPlayer | Big puffy dress |
| 14:11.50 | Imperios | http://www.turkeytourguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/whirling-dervishes.jpg I wanted to make her look like an actual dervish but failed |
| 14:12.44 | AdmiralPanda | thing with dervishes is they actually just wear normal dresses with weights at the hem |
| 14:34.54 | Imperios | OluapPlayer AdmiralPanda: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/04/xiahn-nishi-plastic-surgery_n_5447600.html The fuck |
| 14:35.24 | OluapPlayer | Uh huh |
| 14:35.44 | AdmiralPanda | seen worse |
| 14:35.51 | Imperios | AdmiralPanda: http://i.imgur.com/3L476U7.png |
| 14:36.32 | AdmiralPanda | idungeddit |
| 14:37.08 | Imperios | Australia acts like a boomerang |
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| 15:13.31 | Hachiman | Hi |
| 15:14.29 | Imperios | Hi |
| 15:19.15 | AdmiralPanda | hai |
| 15:20.43 | Tek0516 | Woo! Stellaris pre-orders are open! |
| 15:46.15 | Wormy_away | https://twitter.com/physicsmatt/status/719927850510495745 |
| 15:47.30 | Wormy_away | https://twitter.com/physicsmatt/status/711551240929472512 |
| 15:47.44 | Wormy_away | https://twitter.com/physicsmatt/status/711555412890394624 |
| 15:48.02 | Wormy_away | https://twitter.com/physicsmatt/status/711540162157744128 |
| 15:50.42 | Wormy_away | https://twitter.com/physicsmatt/status/697978438393729024 |
| 15:50.51 | Wormy_away | has quite a sense of humour |
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| 16:09.04 | Wormy_away | https://twitter.com/oceanquigley/status/705459745142890496 |
| 16:17.28 | Tek0516 | Charles_Bot/Charles_Murray: Stellaris pre-orders started today. So close to launch now. :D |
| 16:18.01 | Charles_Murray | 24 days :( |
| 16:18.29 | Charles_Murray | Holy crap |
| 16:18.31 | Charles_Murray | The price |
| 16:21.14 | Tek0516 | Yeah. $40 is the price of all their other base game sthough. |
| 16:24.19 | Imperios | Hi |
| 16:29.16 | Imperios | Charles_Murray: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Armoiries_r%C3%A9publique_fran%C3%A7aise.svg Out of curiosity, what is that big golden thing in front of the laurels and the fasces? |
| 16:29.20 | Imperios | Is that a harp or something |
| 16:30.32 | Charles_Murray | Imperios: I'm thinking that's just one of the traditional components of a coat of arms; they have a name, though I can't recall it from the top of my head |
| 16:30.51 | Imperios | Oh wait I found it: it's just a very weird-looking shield |
| 16:31.04 | Imperios | If it is a shield then it is the coat of arms proper |
| 16:48.02 | Charles_Murray | Tek0516 : I put aside 65 dollars for Stellaris... |
| 16:48.10 | Charles_Murray | Just for Stellaris |
| 16:48.26 | Charles_Murray | I'm wondering if I should just screw it and buy one of the more advanced editions xD |
| 16:52.24 | Imperios | I wish I could draw coats of arms |
| 16:53.41 | Tek0516 | Charles_Murray: 65? O.o but the base is only.40 |
| 16:54.38 | Charles_Murray | Usually release games in the US are 64 |
| 16:55.34 | Tek0516 | I'm buying the second preorder package to get the album. |
| 16:56.24 | Tek0516 | I'm getting a $50 deposit back in the next week or so which covers almost all the cost. :P |
| 16:57.11 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F6fr4-Va_s |
| 17:00.00 | Hachiman | I hope to God that the stuff about adding new content to the in-game store is a joke |
| 17:00.22 | Imperios | It is |
| 17:00.46 | Hachiman | Right, because it sounded eerily like something Blizzard would do hur |
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| 17:11.20 | Quark8 | Hello. |
| 17:15.38 | Imperios | Well |
| 17:15.42 | Imperios | TESO does that |
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| 17:20.15 | Hachiman | Yeah and who plays TESO hur |
| 17:31.36 | Hachiman | "Mom Jailed For 30 Years After Allowing Neglected Baby To Be Eaten By Ants" |
| 17:33.46 | Tek0516 | O.o |
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| 17:50.29 | Wormy_away | https://www.newscientist.com/article/2084438-never-before-seen-galaxy-spotted-orbiting-the-milky-way/?utm_source=NSNS&utm_medium=ILC&utm_campaign=webpush&cmpid=ILC%257CNSNS%257C2016-GLOBAL-webpush-DWARFGALAXY |
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| 18:40.55 | Imperios | Charles_Murray Charles_Bot: Remind me to show that to Drodo |
| 18:46.22 | Technobliterator | Yup |
| 18:46.26 | Technobliterator | I'm not sure what to do |
| 18:47.24 | OluapPlayer | Weren't you going to remove fiction stats? |
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| 18:50.32 | Technobliterator | I was going to remake the infoboxes, and the remake of them wouldn't include infobox |
| 18:50.37 | Technobliterator | stats in the infobox* |
| 18:52.00 | Technobliterator | Not sure how to continue Da Reckoning |
| 18:54.31 | Charles_Bot | Imperios : DrodoEmpire is here |
| 18:54.55 | DrodoEmpire | Hm? |
| 18:54.58 | DrodoEmpire | Oh, hi people |
| 18:55.42 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: http://i.imgur.com/2guBWhI.png |
| 18:56.15 | Imperios | Oh and I also got accepted into r/polandball |
| 18:56.31 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 18:57.09 | DrodoEmpire | I... Don't really find that to be true in Quebec but I've never been in the real big cities there |
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| 19:19.06 | Xho | tough crowd |
| 19:20.28 | Ghel | ~give Xho a cookie |
| 19:20.28 | infobot | ACTION gives Xho a home-baked sugar cookie to cheer him up. |
| 19:23.37 | Charles_Murray | So |
| 19:23.44 | Charles_Murray | I randomly receive a call in class today |
| 19:23.57 | Charles_Murray | It says, in big letters, that it's from "WASHINGTON D.C." |
| 19:24.14 | Tek0516 | O.o |
| 19:24.28 | Charles_Murray | So I improvised my way through a job interview with the congressional delegation from Colorado, and it went really well |
| 19:24.38 | Tek0516 | O.O |
| 19:25.46 | Charles_Murray | There was a funny moment when the interviewer asked me, "So, do you have any personal connection to Colorado?" |
| 19:25.58 | Charles_Murray | Until about 5 minutes ago, I couldn't have told her where it was on a map |
| 19:26.04 | Charles_Murray | So this was my answer: |
| 19:26.54 | Charles_Murray | "(stalling for time while I think of something to say) Well, I live in California, am getting an education in New York, (Aha!) but I'm a democrat!" |
| 19:26.59 | Charles_Murray | Her - Excellent! |
| 19:27.17 | Tek0516 | O.o |
| 19:33.57 | Hachiman | What the fuck |
| 19:34.29 | Charles_Murray | Hm? |
| 19:34.51 | Hachiman | What job were you interviewing for? |
| 19:34.59 | Charles_Murray | Intern |
| 19:35.28 | Hachiman | Whoa |
| 19:35.50 | Hachiman | So you're becoming a member of government eventually |
| 19:36.14 | Charles_Murray | I hope so, that's one path I'm considering |
| 19:36.29 | Hachiman | gonna make dem fat stacks |
| 19:36.47 | Charles_Murray | Government jobs in the US pay zilch xD |
| 19:37.06 | Hachiman | Oh |
| 19:37.37 | Wormy_away | President Charles_Murray #POTUS #potatus #potato |
| 19:37.55 | Charles_Murray | looool |
| 19:37.57 | Wormy_away | Okay that was random |
| 19:37.58 | Charles_Murray | I'm not a natural born citizen, I can't :( |
| 19:38.15 | Charles_Murray | I was born French |
| 19:38.21 | Charles_Murray | (Still am) |
| 19:38.29 | Hachiman | neiva was obama yet he became prez |
| 19:38.30 | Imperios | Bah |
| 19:38.36 | Hachiman | hawaii isnt a state lol rite |
| 19:38.36 | Imperios | Simple enough |
| 19:38.52 | Imperios | Get elected Senator repeatedly, then go to the Pope and get crowned Emperor |
| 19:38.58 | Wormy_away | I think that's unfair, our mayor of London Boris Johnson could be president and he's as British as they get (but born in New York) |
| 19:39.04 | Charles_Murray | Obama was born in Hawaii after it became a state in 1959 |
| 19:39.07 | Imperios | Then try to invade us |
| 19:39.13 | Imperios | And freeze to death plz |
| 19:39.27 | Charles_Murray | loooooool |
| 19:39.28 | Wormy_away | He once suggested being PM of the UK and president of the US at the same time. |
| 19:39.44 | Charles_Murray | Wormy_away lol what, that would be insane |
| 19:39.51 | Charles_Murray | And really taxing on a single person |
| 19:40.05 | Wormy_away | He also wanted to build an airstrip in the Thames |
| 19:40.10 | Wormy_away | He's eccentric |
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| 19:40.40 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 19:40.53 | Imperios | Charles_Murray: >Government jobs in the US pay zilch xD |
| 19:40.57 | Imperios | Do it like the Russians |
| 19:41.12 | Charles_Murray | And bribes are illegal |
| 19:41.15 | Imperios | #StealE\verything #From #TheFuckingBudget |
| 19:41.15 | Charles_Murray | Don't even think about it |
| 19:41.17 | Imperios | *Every |
| 19:41.31 | Charles_Murray | I also applied for something in the French government, but they told me I had to live in France ; . ; |
| 19:41.37 | Wormy_away | Anyway well done Charles, hopefully it will go somewhere good. |
| 19:41.40 | Charles_Murray | Or rather, go to a French school |
| 19:41.47 | Charles_Murray | I hope so too! |
| 19:41.49 | Charles_Murray | Thanks :) |
| 19:41.52 | Imperios | They are in Russia too |
| 19:41.59 | Imperios | But does anyone care about that hur |
| 19:42.02 | Charles_Murray | Actually illegal |
| 19:42.06 | Imperios | Oh |
| 19:42.09 | Charles_Murray | Not de facto a part of the system lol |
| 19:42.32 | Imperios | Boring folks hur |
| 19:43.20 | Wormy_away | bbl |
| 19:46.19 | The_Randomness | Hmm, not sure how stable my connection is on my phone's mobile network, but it seems to be working so far |
| 19:46.51 | Imperios | I probably shouldn't cheer for the OMON but |
| 19:46.55 | Imperios | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBAKCdLKzXI&feature=youtu.be Holy shit these cars |
| 19:48.50 | Imperios | Hachiman: https://2ch.hk/po/src/15450821/14606631847050.webm |
| 19:49.27 | Hachiman | <3 |
| 19:50.35 | Imperios | She is actually speaking of suppressing ethnic minorities and dismantling their local governments |
| 19:51.25 | Hachiman | ... Oh shit |
| 19:51.52 | Hachiman | Well that just soured my view of her a little |
| 19:51.59 | The_Randomness | I'll be back in a bit |
| 19:53.46 | Hachiman | Imperios Wormy_away: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB6TiRJNI-Q Now |
| 19:53.55 | Xho | Hachiman: Just put some duct tape on her no one will ever know |
| 19:54.07 | Hachiman | Now I remember why people like Maddox hur |
| 19:54.15 | Imperios | Hachiman: Well the Crimean Tatars are stirring shit a lot with their Islamist antics |
| 19:54.47 | Imperios | SPYDAHWOMAH |
| 19:56.16 | Imperios | What about Nightwing tho |
| 19:58.00 | Imperios | Hachiman: This reminds me of one video a Russian female comic videoblogger made |
| 19:58.02 | Hachiman | What about Nightwing hur |
| 19:58.11 | Imperios | Well Nightwing is very sexualised I'd say |
| 19:59.00 | Imperios | http://www.fightersgeneration.com/nx5/injustice/nightwing-building.jpg I mean look at him |
| 19:59.10 | Hachiman | Because he is tall, athletic, muscular, handsome and dark-haired while also being drawn in questionable poses that emphasize on his junk, chest, or abs? |
| 19:59.28 | Imperios | Yep |
| 19:59.34 | Imperios | Anyway |
| 20:00.01 | Imperios | So when a group of commenters complained about her criticising Megan Fox and other oversexualised actresses and characters |
| 20:00.13 | Imperios | She eventually responded with a top 10 sexiest superheroes video |
| 20:00.19 | Imperios | All male |
| 20:00.57 | Hachiman | Huh |
| 20:01.23 | Imperios | And she agrees with me on Nightwing as she placed him as top 1 hur |
| 20:02.06 | Hachiman | Funny because if I recall correctly, Nightwing is canon dating Starfire - who is a hypersexual if I am remembering things right |
| 20:02.10 | Hachiman | And very suggestive and evocative |
| 20:02.56 | Imperios | Sexy^2 |
| 20:03.14 | Imperios | Imagine their kids |
| 20:03.20 | Hachiman | Aye I was going to say |
| 20:03.34 | Hachiman | I actually far prefer Nightwing to Batman |
| 20:03.40 | Hachiman | I find him just far more interesting |
| 20:03.44 | Hachiman | And likeable |
| 20:04.19 | Imperios | I know nothing about Nightwing other than him being an ex-Robin (and resentful at that), beign acrobatic, living in a place called Bludhaven |
| 20:04.21 | Imperios | And hot as fuck hur |
| 20:04.45 | Xho | Aren't most superheroes muscular and good looking |
| 20:04.49 | Hachiman | They are |
| 20:04.56 | Imperios | Yes but Nightwing is more... eh... |
| 20:05.05 | Imperios | I'd say he is the kind of character that is drawn with girls in mind |
| 20:05.19 | Imperios | He's muscular and good-looking but eh... |
| 20:05.38 | Imperios | Elegant and slender/youthly as opposed to large and imposing |
| 20:05.41 | Hachiman | Yeah I would kinda agree, the way he is drawn is different to how one would draw Superman for example |
| 20:06.05 | Hachiman | Sexy Superman just seems really weird to me since he is supposed to be big and imposing |
| 20:06.11 | Imperios | Aye |
| 20:06.25 | Imperios | I think feminists should support more Nightwings as opposed to less Spiderwomen hur |
| 20:06.35 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 20:07.33 | Imperios | THis reminds me I thought of making a flirty Radeon outlaw guy as a foil to Quendor |
| 20:07.37 | Imperios | IF I ever do Shattering |
| 20:07.52 | Hachiman | Make him a cowboy |
| 20:08.03 | Imperios | But I already have Lemmo |
| 20:08.09 | Hachiman | MORE COWBOYS |
| 20:10.11 | Xho | What exactly does foil even mean |
| 20:10.23 | Xho | I've seen it being used to describe Kamaris and Kilchárunya but I don't really get it |
| 20:11.09 | Imperios | Opposite |
| 20:11.25 | Imperios | Like an evil counterpart but not necessarily evil |
| 20:11.56 | Xho | "Sepulchrus Domini, also known as Sepulthura" >Sepulthura ROOOOTS BLOODY ROOOOTS |
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| 20:12.10 | Xho | Speak of the devil |
| 20:12.17 | OluapPlayer | wut u want |
| 20:12.22 | Xho | ur body |
| 20:12.28 | OluapPlayer | fagit |
| 20:12.30 | Xho | [21:11] <Xho> "Sepulchrus Domini, also known as Sepulthura" >Sepulthura ROOOOTS BLOODY ROOOOTS |
| 20:12.39 | Xho | It's not a joke you'd get but Hachi would |
| 20:14.10 | Imperios | Speaking of which Hachiman Xho: plz gimme top quotes for AX and KS |
| 20:14.24 | Xho | "You're both cunts" - Caligaduro Provectus |
| 20:14.26 | Hachiman | ROOOOOTS |
| 20:14.33 | Imperios | Also yeah Hachiman what do you think of her? |
| 20:14.42 | Hachiman | I haven't read her page yet |
| 20:14.43 | Hachiman | link |
| 20:15.33 | Imperios | fukin lazi fuk |
| 20:15.35 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Kalisearan |
| 20:16.00 | OluapPlayer | Meanwhile I've made http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Confectrix and http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Princeps |
| 20:16.33 | Xho | "Define order. That is a question that has long since divided the ranks of man, elf, beast and dragonfolk since they began to speak their first words. Of course, we all have that same concept - do not kill, do not steal. We write our laws down and we think that adhering to them is safe. But we all have different laws. We all have different ideas of order. But we all have the same idea of chaos." - Unknown |
| 20:16.37 | Xho | That's for Kali |
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| 20:22.01 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Quoted confectrix |
| 20:22.29 | OluapPlayer | Confectrix - stupid [accent] |
| 20:22.36 | Xho | Khaadun - [fuck you lol] |
| 20:25.45 | Hachiman | I gotta say |
| 20:25.49 | Hachiman | Kalisearan's interesting |
| 20:26.05 | Hachiman | She is like a variant of Slaanesh that does not attempt to fuck you over in every way imaginable |
| 20:28.10 | AdmiralPanda | then how is she like Slaanesh? |
| 20:28.49 | AdmiralPanda | Technobliterator: I have finally found a flaw in the Automatron DLC and it pisses me off |
| 20:28.56 | Technobliterator | Oh? |
| 20:29.14 | AdmiralPanda | "Sexy french female" is not a voice option for automatrons |
| 20:29.18 | Xho | dur |
| 20:29.31 | OluapPlayer | get outta here |
| 20:29.37 | Xho | Imperios: Kalisearan needs an attendant |
| 20:29.42 | Xho | Like Haskill |
| 20:29.45 | Imperios | Attendant as in |
| 20:29.47 | Technobliterator | lmao |
| 20:29.52 | AdmiralPanda | shoot down my fantasies of having a Ms Nanny run my medical clinic why don't you |
| 20:30.00 | AdmiralPanda | oh well, I'll just have to get Curie to do it |
| 20:30.02 | Xho | Just look up Haskill and you'll see my point |
| 20:30.18 | Xho | Haskill is Sheogorath's chamberlain and he's like the only sane one in the Shivering Isles |
| 20:31.21 | Imperios | Actually her friendzoned slave |
| 20:36.59 | Imperios | Xho: I wonder if the next TMNT movie is going to be good |
| 20:37.08 | Imperios | I mean it looks very unique and fun but then again |
| 20:37.11 | Imperios | The hand of Bay |
| 20:37.11 | Xho | I haven't watched the first one |
| 20:37.13 | Hachiman | So Maddox's apartment was invaded by crickets sometime ago and there was one cricket that refused to go away yet he could not find it; he subsequently promised to his viewers that when he caught it, he would fry it and eat it |
| 20:37.16 | Imperios | The first one was shit |
| 20:37.24 | Imperios | Well not shit |
| 20:37.25 | Imperios | BAY |
| 20:38.00 | Hachiman | He proceeded to eventually catch the cricket and then fried and eat it as he had promised, although not before cutting off its head and sticking it on a little pole in yard as a warning to other crickets |
| 20:38.58 | Imperios | Is Maddox like another Sargon or something |
| 20:39.14 | Hachiman | I find him to be less idiotic than Sargon |
| 20:39.29 | DrodoEmpire | How is Sargon an idiot <.< |
| 20:39.36 | Hachiman | Well, I say idiotic |
| 20:39.40 | Hachiman | I mean biased |
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| 20:40.09 | DrodoEmpire | I mean, Sargon has some biases sure but he's not an idiot, he's not this or that, etc. I personally find him fairly reasonable |
| 20:40.25 | Imperios | He is about as reasonable as his opponents |
| 20:40.27 | DrodoEmpire | He's willing to change his opinions is the big thing, and as for a basis he has a pretty solid one |
| 20:40.32 | DrodoEmpire | I strongly disagree |
| 20:40.33 | Imperios | So, has a kernel of truth, but that's about it |
| 20:40.38 | DrodoEmpire | Again I disagree |
| 20:40.47 | Imperios | He is a lot like the kind of feminists he dislikes |
| 20:41.35 | DrodoEmpire | Again... I have to disagree :p I've watch his videos, I've watched the videos of others, he's not as extreme as you'd like to think he is |
| 20:41.56 | DrodoEmpire | *watched, that is |
| 20:42.54 | Imperios | Hachiman: https://40.media.tumblr.com/7bf6fb0ef065c41456368a4ebb929801/tumblr_o5fueb8Rav1tiaa7uo1_r1_540.jpg What do they have against British girls |
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| 20:46.25 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 20:46.37 | Imperios | Xho: So a more sane person to govern her domain |
| 20:46.45 | Xho | More or less |
| 21:07.47 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://img.ifcdn.com/images/747a41de8596b4fdad7d9aa6f7f4816899bc3b228a58dab77520ad24d07e1237_1.jpg |
| 21:08.07 | Hachiman | hur |
| 21:08.17 | Hachiman | That reminds me |
| 21:08.38 | Hachiman | GW is releasing a limited edition reworked version of their first Space Marine model |
| 21:09.36 | Imperios | The old beakie? |
| 21:09.40 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 21:09.44 | AdmiralPanda | the OLD beakie |
| 21:09.50 | AdmiralPanda | back when missile launcher marines came with combat shields |
| 21:10.03 | Imperios | Back when there was no Chaos? |
| 21:10.12 | Hachiman | https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99120101000_ImperialSpaceMarine01.jpg |
| 21:10.29 | Imperios | This guy looks like he literally came from the past in-universe |
| 21:10.37 | Imperios | Like a Thunder Warrior or a Heresy-Era SM |
| 21:10.56 | Hachiman | Well, Beakies ARE Heresy-era |
| 21:11.04 | Hachiman | Or at least, I thought they are |
| 21:11.07 | Hachiman | were even |
| 21:11.25 | AdmiralPanda | most marks of space marine armour are pre-heresy |
| 21:11.29 | Imperios | I think there was an entire series of historical mehreen armour sets |
| 21:11.38 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 21:11.44 | Imperios | Heresy marines I think had these studded shoulderpads like this guy |
| 21:11.53 | Imperios | I don't remember what kind of helmets they had though |
| 21:12.26 | Imperios | http://cdn.bols.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Marine-Armor.jpg Oh yes they had these knight-like things |
| 21:12.48 | AdmiralPanda | heh, in fact mark 5 was called "Heresy" armour because it was what was being issued at the time :P |
| 21:12.54 | Imperios | Also I think shoulderpads were more metallic and rigid, which is why CSM shoulderpads look like they do |
| 21:12.59 | Imperios | That is, prettier |
| 21:13.05 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 21:13.14 | Hachiman | Most Chaos Marines wear historical Power Armour |
| 21:13.21 | AdmiralPanda | which however puts the beak helmet post-heresy |
| 21:13.37 | Imperios | I'd say CSM armour is prettier in general |
| 21:13.42 | Imperios | Horns aside, it is very elegant |
| 21:13.56 | AdmiralPanda | actually, I take that back- Corvus was used by the Raven Guard during the Istvaan massacre, so it is heresy |
| 21:13.58 | Hachiman | Corvus Power Armour is Heresy-era there |
| 21:14.00 | Hachiman | though* |
| 21:14.26 | Imperios | Hachiman: http://wh40kart.im/_images/6ba71dcd7611b9ecf5a1e6a337dbdc57.jpg The fact is this |
| 21:14.42 | Hachiman | Ew |
| 21:14.46 | Imperios | Thunder warriors had these epic goggles tho |
| 21:15.01 | Hachiman | Thunder Warriors had visors if I recall |
| 21:15.29 | Imperios | Yes visors |
| 21:15.34 | Imperios | Visors and no gas masks |
| 21:15.40 | Imperios | And these puffs of hair |
| 21:16.10 | Imperios | This reminds me |
| 21:16.16 | Hachiman | I like how fucking stupid the Emperor is for making the Space Marines intentionally less potent than Thunder Warriors under the reasoning that they would be easier to maintain, yet he also happened to create the fucking Primarchs |
| 21:16.24 | Imperios | >Warhammer |
| 21:16.26 | Imperios | >logic |
| 21:16.35 | Imperios | Anyway I should give Alar'xashan Ground Marine minions |
| 21:17.09 | Hachiman | pls non |
| 21:17.12 | Hachiman | Ground Marines suck |
| 21:17.20 | Hachiman | AoS sucks in general actually hur |
| 21:18.10 | Imperios | Yes but Ground Marine aesthetics fit Alar'xashan |
| 21:18.24 | Monet | [22:13:33] <Imperios> I'd say CSM armour is prettier in general > Kayoss is elegant |
| 21:19.21 | Monet | Hachiman: The "easy to maintain" logic is not really that stupid to me. |
| 21:19.22 | Imperios | Ground Marines actually look kind of pretty |
| 21:19.32 | Imperios | But they do not look Warhammer at all |
| 21:19.35 | Imperios | They're too high-fantasy |
| 21:19.35 | Monet | SMs are basically mass-produced Primarchs. |
| 21:19.39 | Imperios | Too supernatural |
| 21:19.47 | Imperios | They'd fit in MTG |
| 21:20.15 | Xho | chaos for the chaos goddess |
| 21:20.48 | Hachiman | But the thing is that why make the Space Marines less potent than the Thunder Warriors for the justification of making them easier to maintain yet also then proceed to create the godlike Primarchs which are way fucking harder to maintain as shown by the Horus Heresy and the fact that most of the Primarchs fucking hated the Emperor |
| 21:21.02 | Monet | here are only 20 primarchs. |
| 21:21.05 | OluapPlayer | Because GREEN IS BEST WE'LL MAKE IT ORKY |
| 21:21.43 | Monet | Whilist before and during the heresy there were tens to hundreds of thousands of marines. |
| 21:22.25 | Monet | The primarchs were supposed to be generals. |
| 21:22.29 | Hachiman | There were only 20 Primarchs yet it only took 9 to turn the Imperium into a shithole hur |
| 21:22.41 | Imperios | What the fuck they are already making separate codices for Ground Marine chapters |
| 21:22.47 | Hachiman | Yep |
| 21:23.07 | Monet | Hachiman: IMagine how fucked-over the Imperium could have been had there been 9000 primarch-levle warriors. |
| 21:23.22 | Monet | turning against it |
| 21:23.43 | Hachiman | The Stormcast Eternals are literally fantasy Space Marines; it does not surprise me they are already getting their own separate codices |
| 21:23.52 | Hachiman | GW is all about that SM wank life |
| 21:25.23 | Monet | GW - Pay ur nerd tax. |
| 21:25.57 | Monet | The SM wank works in terms of money |
| 21:26.07 | Imperios | >Chaos Gargant |
| 21:26.09 | Imperios | >Gargant |
| 21:26.12 | Imperios | 20% orkier |
| 21:26.26 | Monet | Seriously the large majority of peopel in tornaments use Muhreenz |
| 21:26.39 | Hachiman | Even though I dislike Age of Sigmar, my favourite faction are the Fyreslayers because dwarven Jewish mercenary-warriors |
| 21:27.36 | Hachiman | They worship Grimnir and do not kneel to Sigmar; they have to be paid in ur-gold in order to fight at the side of the Stormcast Eternals and are just as likely to fight alongside Chaos if paid with a good enough counter-offer |
| 21:28.10 | Imperios | The fuck they did not even make new orks |
| 21:28.13 | Hachiman | Nope |
| 21:28.15 | Imperios | orcs even |
| 21:28.39 | Imperios | All these models are from when I was like 12 |
| 21:29.03 | Hachiman | Yeah, they said that the WH:FB models are still viable for AoS play |
| 21:29.07 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-WW/Gorbad-Ironclaw Observe, ye olde orc |
| 21:29.29 | OluapPlayer | That looks really cool |
| 21:29.31 | Imperios | https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99060209132_SavageOrcShamanNEW01.jpg >New |
| 21:29.32 | Hachiman | As an excuse to not have to make new models |
| 21:29.34 | Imperios | Ohgod this fucking model hur |
| 21:29.52 | OluapPlayer | That second one though |
| 21:29.55 | OluapPlayer | put sum clothes on ffs |
| 21:30.27 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99800209017_GoblinWarbossCaveSquigNEW01.jpg |
| 21:30.50 | OluapPlayer | "i don't know how i got here, gotta play cool" |
| 21:31.07 | Hachiman | That Squig is like "have you ever been so mad" |
| 21:31.27 | Imperios | The fantasy orcs were about as weird as the 40k ones, if not more so |
| 21:31.34 | Imperios | They had this weird unit |
| 21:31.43 | Imperios | Basically imagine a goblin spinning a giant wrecking ball |
| 21:31.56 | Imperios | You actually had little to no control over its movement in-game |
| 21:32.01 | Hachiman | Goblins in Warhammer Fantasy were a lot more badass than Gretchins in 40k |
| 21:32.02 | Imperios | It just spinned and hit everything |
| 21:32.11 | Imperios | Yeah there are even some important grot caracters |
| 21:32.14 | Imperios | *characters |
| 21:32.38 | Hachiman | I remember that in the End Times, the mortal avatar of Mork was a goblin Warboss |
| 21:32.54 | Imperios | Do not forget Grom |
| 21:33.24 | Hachiman | Holy fuck Grom |
| 21:33.28 | Hachiman | I forgot about him |
| 21:33.36 | Imperios | https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99810209013_SquigHoppersNEW01.jpg Oh and THESE fucks |
| 21:33.58 | Hachiman | That one fucking goblin riding backwards |
| 21:34.11 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99110209212_WhirlingDeathNEW01.jpg Miley Cyrus goblins |
| 21:34.36 | OluapPlayer | The outfits are silly |
| 21:34.45 | OluapPlayer | They look like little witches |
| 21:35.11 | Imperios | These were basically a unique race of goblins who lived underground |
| 21:35.29 | Imperios | https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99810209012_SkarsnikWarlordNEW01.jpg That's their leader |
| 21:36.08 | Imperios | Hachiman: https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99810209021_DoomDiverCatapultNEW01.jpg Oh and rememver that thing |
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| 21:36.19 | Monet | I rememebr the night goblins. |
| 21:36.34 | Monet | They were *obsessed* with poison. |
| 21:37.09 | Hachiman | Skarsnik, that was the goblin I was looking for |
| 21:37.14 | Hachiman | He was Mork's mortal incarnation |
| 21:37.24 | Imperios | He was? |
| 21:37.28 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 21:37.29 | Imperios | ...That'd make sense though |
| 21:37.44 | Xho | Goddammit Spore |
| 21:37.50 | Xho | I was remaking something and it crashed |
| 21:37.51 | Imperios | As far as I remeber from the codex Skarsnik was one of the two modern greenskin leaders |
| 21:37.56 | Hachiman | Meanwhile Ironclaw was the incarnation of Gork |
| 21:37.56 | Imperios | Him and that big black orc |
| 21:37.57 | Imperios | Gorbad |
| 21:38.10 | Hachiman | Yeah |
| 21:39.06 | Hachiman | Gorbad Ironclaw was essentialy the fantasy version of Ghazghkull |
| 21:39.18 | Hachiman | Or rather, Ghazghkull is the 40k version of Gorbad |
| 21:39.21 | Imperios | Aye |
| 21:39.36 | Imperios | There was also an orc necromancer guy |
| 21:39.52 | Imperios | Basically an orc warlord who found the crown of a lich and fused with it |
| 21:40.08 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99800209002_GrimgorIronhideNEW01.jpg ISIS orc |
| 21:40.28 | OluapPlayer | Eh? |
| 21:41.06 | Hachiman | Wait, his name was not Gorbad, it was Grimgor |
| 21:41.19 | Imperios | Yeah Grimgor |
| 21:41.22 | Imperios | Gorbad was the older one |
| 21:41.25 | Hachiman | Grimgor Ironhide |
| 21:43.18 | Hachiman | Also I saw an interesting video about Garrosh the other day that, in summary, claimed that everything that went wrong with the Horde was Thrall's fault and not Garrosh |
| 21:43.46 | Hachiman | And that he ruled like how an orc would; not how the leader of a multiracial empire would |
| 21:44.07 | Imperios | Hachiman: GARROSH DID NUFFIN WRONG |
| 21:44.09 | Imperios | Also |
| 21:44.12 | Imperios | https://2ch.hk/wh/src/460523/14603557894750.jpg HOLY FUCKING SHIT |
| 21:44.16 | Imperios | Not only they made Ground Marines |
| 21:44.20 | Imperios | They made Ground Orks |
| 21:44.31 | Hachiman | The fuck |
| 21:45.01 | Hachiman | I wish the picture quality was better |
| 21:46.07 | OluapPlayer | As opposed to Water Orks and Air Orks |
| 21:46.41 | Hachiman | Ung, the Last Airboy |
| 21:47.21 | Hachiman | "So, all in all, the new setting can be summed up as a strange fusion of Stargate fan fiction, mistranslated Norse mythology, and the smell of unwashed cock." - 1d4chan's summary of Age of Sigmar hur |
| 21:47.31 | Imperios | But everything changed when DA FIYA GITZ attacked |
| 21:47.37 | Imperios | Or rather |
| 21:47.48 | Imperios | Everything changed when DA BURNA BOYZ attacked |
| 21:48.02 | Hachiman | hur |
| 21:48.17 | Hachiman | Also Gork and Mork are one deity in the Age of Sigmar setting now for some reason |
| 21:48.19 | Hachiman | Gorkamorka |
| 21:49.53 | Technobliterator | I thought Gorkamorka was already one single Ork deity? ?__? |
| 21:50.04 | Imperios | Jo confirmed to be Grot |
| 21:50.26 | OluapPlayer | YA GIT |
| 21:50.39 | Hachiman | Literally cringed |
| 21:50.56 | Technobliterator | Like, I always read about Gork and Mork |
| 21:51.00 | Xho | no idea wat ur talkin about kek |
| 21:51.03 | Technobliterator | then suddenly it'd mention Gorkamorka |
| 21:51.07 | Technobliterator | all the time |
| 21:51.09 | Xho | Well apart from Orks |
| 21:51.29 | OluapPlayer | Gork and Mork are the two Ork gods |
| 21:51.33 | OluapPlayer | Gorkamorka is a place |
| 21:51.44 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 21:51.50 | Technobliterator | it all makes sense now |
| 21:52.00 | Technobliterator | but then again, I haven't read anything WH40k for years now |
| 21:52.03 | Hachiman | DIGGANOBZ |
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| 21:52.16 | Technobliterator | still love the setting |
| 21:59.19 | AdmiralPanda | oh gorkamorka |
| 21:59.29 | AdmiralPanda | gone too soon from this world |
| 21:59.48 | AdmiralPanda | trukks with troop capacity = however many models you can fit on the trukk, if a model falls off it dies |
| 22:00.04 | Imperios | AdmiralPanda: COMMUNIST GROTS |
| 22:03.10 | Imperios | Hachiman: https://2ch.hk/mlp/src/3408071/14583472408510.webm |
| 22:03.27 | The_Randomness | wb |
| 22:03.56 | Hachiman | wat |
| 22:04.36 | Wormy_ | I ran 6 miles yesterday and 6 miles today, its hilly where I live. I'm very achy |
| 22:04.59 | Technobliterator | oh wow |
| 22:05.07 | Technobliterator | people are legitimately defending |
| 22:05.12 | Technobliterator | mainstream rappers and their lack of talent |
| 22:05.14 | Technobliterator | why |
| 22:05.24 | Wormy_ | Internets |
| 22:05.46 | Technobliterator | "hey we all gotta start somewhere not everyone is that good" |
| 22:05.57 | Technobliterator | THEN WHY ARE THEY LITERALLY BEING PAID MILLIONS TO SUCK |
| 22:07.12 | OluapPlayer | because fuck u that's why |
| 22:07.22 | The_Randomness | >has opinion about an artist |
| 22:07.24 | The_Randomness | >thinks they suck |
| 22:07.34 | The_Randomness | >opinion is objectively true |
| 22:07.56 | OluapPlayer | get that greentexting outta here |
| 22:08.04 | The_Randomness | fk u |
| 22:08.16 | The_Randomness | u can't tell me what to do |
| 22:08.20 | The_Randomness | runs off |
| 22:08.25 | Technobliterator | It's not an opinion when you literally have artists who just completely lack skill |
| 22:08.30 | Technobliterator | that was a given in the 90s |
| 22:08.37 | The_Randomness | But is that your judgement to make? |
| 22:08.45 | Technobliterator | It's not even a judgement |
| 22:09.14 | Wormy_ | Monet, Techno, Imperios: Have you seen this? http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Super_Collab#The_.22Long_Draft.22 |
| 22:09.40 | Monet_2 | What's good music is very subjective. |
| 22:09.48 | The_Randomness | You're dodging the question. I can't stand listening to rap, but because I can't stand how the music sounds and such, does that make its producers "bad"? |
| 22:09.50 | Technobliterator | There are people lacking basic skills such as being able to make up rhymes on the spot that legitimately work and keep it going for longer than literally two lines |
| 22:09.55 | Monet_2 | Though I don't listen ot much rap so I can't say if modern rap sucks. |
| 22:09.56 | Technobliterator | This is not a judgement |
| 22:10.05 | Monet_2 | #80sRockMasterRace |
| 22:10.18 | Technobliterator | These artists literally lack skills that were a given 20 years ago |
| 22:10.24 | Technobliterator | And people are defending them for it |
| 22:10.28 | Technobliterator | it's pathetic |
| 22:10.40 | Technobliterator | oh, and the ability to write your own music |
| 22:10.48 | Technobliterator | there are rappers nowadays who lack this ability |
| 22:11.11 | Technobliterator | that, and if you read lyrics that come from rappers today compared to ones from 20 odd years ago, it's not even close |
| 22:11.25 | Technobliterator | I know you guys aren't into that sort of music, but if you ask me, this is a joke |
| 22:12.03 | Monet | Sounds jsut like what happens with pop music. |
| 22:12.07 | Wormy_ | The_Randomness: I understand your point, but in Techno's defence, its no secret that many producers these days write the lyrics and pretty much tell what the rapper or pop singer does. Where's their personality in all this? |
| 22:12.21 | DrodoEmpire | I agree with Tech that there is such a thing that is legitimately bad music/art |
| 22:12.22 | Technobliterator | Right, exactly |
| 22:12.36 | DrodoEmpire | Especially in a genre that's as skill-intensive as rap (not to say other genres *aren't*) |
| 22:12.50 | Technobliterator | Yeah, like, let me make an equivalent for other genres |
| 22:13.01 | The_Randomness | I don't know enough about the music production scene to comment much, but I don't like what seems like value judgments for art. |
| 22:13.04 | Technobliterator | This is like being well known as a guitarist |
| 22:13.10 | OluapPlayer | lissen up mothafocka let me tell ya a tale |
| 22:13.15 | Technobliterator | despite never learning to play a guitar |
| 22:13.17 | Xho | DON'T DRAG ME INTO THIS PLS |
| 22:13.25 | DrodoEmpire | Art and music require a degree of skill, and skill *is* something that can be measured or at least observed |
| 22:13.26 | Technobliterator | and never actually playing a guitar live |
| 22:13.29 | OluapPlayer | No one even mentioned you dumbo |
| 22:13.35 | Xho | gud fuk off |
| 22:13.36 | Technobliterator | just pretending to |
| 22:13.44 | DrodoEmpire | Saying "everything's subjective" is silly and avoiding the debate |
| 22:13.48 | Technobliterator | but because they look like a guitarist, people are duped into believing it |
| 22:13.52 | The_Randomness | Yeah, that is true |
| 22:13.54 | Wormy_ | I actually believe in arguments for objective beauty, for the skill and personality of the artist to shine through. For criticism to improve their artistic knowledge. |
| 22:14.04 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 22:14.13 | Wormy_ | No different than any other human endevour |
| 22:14.27 | Technobliterator | I just think it's sad that artists who lack basic skills are given recording deals because they look marketable |
| 22:14.33 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah... |
| 22:14.52 | Technobliterator | and people go on to defend them |
| 22:15.12 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not full "ey fuk the mainstream" but I mean I tend towards artists with actual skill :p |
| 22:15.12 | Wormy_ | Thr music can't actually improve if the same old product is being churned out all the time. |
| 22:15.18 | Wormy_ | Same |
| 22:15.26 | Technobliterator | it's so fake nowadays |
| 22:15.42 | DrodoEmpire | I listen to a lot of electronic music, so I'll use Madeon as an example I guess for the sort of thing I mean |
| 22:15.46 | Technobliterator | I can understand why so many people dislike rap |
| 22:15.47 | AdmiralPanda | ok, it's official |
| 22:15.50 | DrodoEmpire | (Though I guess he's sorta becoming big now) |
| 22:15.56 | AdmiralPanda | if Techno played Cyberpunk she'd be a Rockerbabe |
| 22:15.56 | Imperios | I say recognise music for what it is |
| 22:15.58 | Technobliterator | Because the rap they hear is just the really bad stuff |
| 22:16.02 | Technobliterator | lmao |
| 22:16.04 | The_Randomness | lol |
| 22:16.19 | Imperios | If music is pop and simple, recognise it as such and listen to it as such |
| 22:16.34 | AdmiralPanda | the entire Run would just be her hatching a grand conspiracy to bring down News54's music program |
| 22:16.37 | Imperios | While keeping the real good high-quality music for more contemplative moments |
| 22:16.55 | Xho | Technobliterator: Guitarists are also genre dependent though |
| 22:16.59 | Technobliterator | Imperios, this is fair, but that's not really what bugs me |
| 22:17.07 | Imperios | You may also consider switching to something more indie |
| 22:17.13 | Imperios | Like I did |
| 22:17.17 | Technobliterator | What bugs me is that you can literally become rich by looking marketable |
| 22:17.28 | Technobliterator | No, I sort of listen to older music out of nostalgia |
| 22:17.30 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: While that's true that isn't quite what we're saying |
| 22:17.31 | Wormy_ | I like 70's rock and heavy metal. |
| 22:18.02 | Wormy_ | Now they were carving a new frontier |
| 22:18.16 | Wormy_ | Psychdelelic and space rock specially |
| 22:18.17 | Monet | Technobliterator: WOrked for the fashion industry. |
| 22:18.27 | Technobliterator | yeah but |
| 22:18.33 | Technobliterator | that's when you're literally paid to look marketable |
| 22:18.34 | Monet | We live in a very superficial world. |
| 22:18.41 | Technobliterator | your literal skill is looking marketable |
| 22:18.42 | AdmiralPanda | Monet: the Fashion industry is literally an industry about looking good though :P |
| 22:18.50 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Which is true though unfortunate |
| 22:18.58 | Technobliterator | not supposedly having musical skill |
| 22:19.09 | Monet | AdmiralPanda: Yes but there can still be skill to it |
| 22:19.25 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah- For the fashion designer |
| 22:19.38 | AdmiralPanda | well yeah, but in this instance looking good in the fashion industry is equatable to having natural musical talent in the music industry |
| 22:19.48 | DrodoEmpire | They're truly skilled people, made to make people who often *aren't* skilled look good |
| 22:19.52 | Xho | I do say that being educated in musical stuff myself that natural talent isn't exactly existent |
| 22:19.54 | Technobliterator | Well, you have to look good, and you have to excercise all the time to stay in shape |
| 22:20.22 | DrodoEmpire | Eh fair enough |
| 22:20.27 | Imperios | Why not listen to ethnic music tho |
| 22:20.35 | Technobliterator | Ethnic music? |
| 22:20.40 | AdmiralPanda | Xho: I mean a natural inclination towards that kind of thing. I for example am hopeless at music because I just don't get it, and taking music lessons didn't help :P |
| 22:20.47 | Xho | Fair |
| 22:20.51 | DrodoEmpire | That's sounds like an *extremely* broad range of traditional music Imperios |
| 22:21.00 | Xho | You do need to have a good grasp of theoretical knowledge if you want to write a song |
| 22:21.03 | Monet | I agree with Panda |
| 22:21.04 | Imperios | Exactly |
| 22:21.06 | Xho | Not particularly absolute but |
| 22:21.16 | Imperios | A lot of stuff to listen to and you won't get bored |
| 22:21.20 | Xho | Having a basis in music theory helps |
| 22:21.20 | Monet | I don't like this idea you have to have it as a talent to be an artist. |
| 22:21.26 | DrodoEmpire | Ah that's fair |
| 22:21.38 | Monet | To me, talent is more of a mindset than some innate skill. |
| 22:21.50 | Xho | To me talent on a musical basis is knowing what to do with the tools you're given |
| 22:22.00 | Imperios | Turks, the Chinese and the Indians have the best music |
| 22:22.01 | DrodoEmpire | I'm sure there's a lot even from around my home region really- NS has a pretty strong Celtic streak culturally speaking |
| 22:22.14 | Xho | Anyone can learn music theory and become technically skilled on an instrument but to create something is another ballpark |
| 22:22.17 | Imperios | Not a fan of Celtic music actually |
| 22:22.19 | Imperios | Outside of IRA songs |
| 22:22.27 | Imperios | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP6oWExnoRQ |
| 22:22.56 | Xho | So I would agree with Jo on the fact that music can be dumbed down to nothing more than a four-chord progression and a team of songwriters |
| 22:23.18 | Technobliterator | Yup. And a ton of autotune. |
| 22:23.40 | Xho | this is why i listen to jazz #jazzsnob #fuckyourpatheticconventionaltheory |
| 22:23.49 | Xho | Seriously though jazz is fun to pick apart |
| 22:23.56 | Technobliterator | Jazz is fun, yes |
| 22:24.11 | Monet | Techno: Or hiring someone who -can- sing to dub over your opretty-boy artist. |
| 22:24.16 | Imperios | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rERvjIrkrRc Just listen to Chinese music |
| 22:24.19 | Technobliterator | that too yeah |
| 22:24.35 | Xho | Thing is, most songs nowadays heard on the radio follow that good old chord progression which is so generic that I can't remember it |
| 22:24.36 | OluapPlayer | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6bjq8HC_iQ time for autotune again |
| 22:24.42 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: That's the lowest you could probably go |
| 22:25.03 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: I hear it happens though. |
| 22:25.08 | DrodoEmpire | Yuck |
| 22:25.36 | Monet | The beauty of the digital age. |
| 22:25.54 | Imperios | OR |
| 22:26.10 | Imperios | Listen to IS nasheeds and then mentally behead all mainstream rappers |
| 22:26.12 | Monet | Where, in theory, you could make the 'perfect' artist by mixing together four or five separate people |
| 22:26.23 | DrodoEmpire | Eh yeah but its hardly all bad. >.< The same things made to make attractive people "singers" can also be used to make legitimately good music |
| 22:26.39 | DrodoEmpire | I mean, if you're into that sorta group of genres anyway |
| 22:26.56 | DrodoEmpire | Imperios: Sooner not have ISIS stuff on my internet history <.< |
| 22:26.58 | Xho | Another thing is that there are 'creative geniuses' in every genre |
| 22:26.59 | Wormy_ | Imperios: I like listening to reconstructed music# |
| 22:27.13 | Xho | Including electronic music if you're so inclined to think that it requires little effort |
| 22:27.23 | Wormy_ | get culture'd |
| 22:27.25 | Xho | Aphex Twin comes to mind |
| 22:27.31 | Imperios | DrodoEmpire: I am pretty sure I am watched already so I do not care |
| 22:27.35 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 22:28.13 | DrodoEmpire | Xho: Oh I don't think it takes little effort to make or to play on stage, really |
| 22:28.20 | DrodoEmpire | Not at all |
| 22:28.20 | Monet | Good electronica = funky beat. bad electronica = two robots fighting. |
| 22:29.21 | Wormy_ | Xho: I've been listening to Loscil lately, ambient https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mip3CbLnM5E |
| 22:29.24 | AdmiralPanda | was afk for a bit, my thoughts on the talent/skill thing: both are a thing, talent is a natural proficiency which is advantageous and helps in the acquisition of skill, but skill is still skill |
| 22:29.24 | DrodoEmpire | Monet: Good electronic needs to be paced *perfectly*, I find |
| 22:29.29 | Monet | I was more describing output |
| 22:29.31 | DrodoEmpire | Or else it just sounds off |
| 22:29.35 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 22:30.06 | Wormy_ | No electronica band beats Kraftwerk for me |
| 22:30.13 | Technobliterator | ^ |
| 22:30.20 | Technobliterator | oh, and I love Daft Punk too |
| 22:30.32 | DrodoEmpire | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 22:30.45 | DrodoEmpire | I quite like Caravan Palace too |
| 22:31.05 | AdmiralPanda | I'm a fan of basically everything that isn't jazz and metal (some metal I like but not much of it) |
| 22:31.13 | Wormy_ | Also I saw Aphex Twin mentioned. Lets not forget Brian Eno, who made some the ambient music for Spore. |
| 22:31.17 | Xho | kicks AdmiralPanda into the sun |
| 22:31.20 | AdmiralPanda | oh and country, not into country |
| 22:31.28 | AdmiralPanda | drags Xho with him |
| 22:31.32 | Xho | bugger |
| 22:31.46 | Xho | Infected Mushroom's one of my favourites as well |
| 22:32.10 | AdmiralPanda | I mostly listen to electronic, house and punk/rock |
| 22:33.10 | Imperios | Fuck you all, I have Katy Perry, Hyuna, Britney Spears and Taylor Swift in my library |
| 22:33.22 | Xho | wow |
| 22:33.28 | Technobliterator | You have lost all your credibility |
| 22:33.36 | Imperios | And Kadebostany |
| 22:33.38 | Xho | My library isn't that diverse really |
| 22:33.54 | Imperios | Hezbollah nasheeds, |
| 22:33.57 | Imperios | What else though |
| 22:33.58 | Imperios | Hm |
| 22:34.07 | Imperios | IRA war songs and other separatist stuff |
| 22:34.08 | Wormy_ | doesn't have a music library and just streams youtubes |
| 22:34.16 | Imperios | Military marches, some rap |
| 22:34.41 | Wormy_ | The authorities are watching you with extra care. |
| 22:34.42 | Imperios | Oh and I still have a lot of brony music left |
| 22:34.43 | OluapPlayer | i've heard of ironic shitposting, but never of ironic music listening |
| 22:34.50 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 22:34.56 | Imperios | Classical Ottoman music |
| 22:34.58 | Imperios | Lots of it |
| 22:35.00 | Xho | Animals As Leaders, Chimp Spanner, Devin Townsend, Dream Theater, Feared, Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects, Glass Cloud, Gojira, Hypocrisy, Korn, Meshuggah, MestÃs, Muse, Periphery, Sepultura, Strapping Young Lad, T.R.A.M and Tesseract |
| 22:35.04 | Xho | So basically metal |
| 22:35.04 | DrodoEmpire | a new level of meming >.> <.< |
| 22:35.19 | Imperios | Some OST music |
| 22:35.41 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: Who says it is ironic? |
| 22:35.53 | Imperios | There are periods in one's life when one needs listening to simple music |
| 22:35.56 | Technobliterator | I just stream music with Google Play |
| 22:35.57 | OluapPlayer | It's either that or you have shit taste hur |
| 22:35.59 | Imperios | Oh I completely forgot |
| 22:36.05 | Imperios | Argentine tango <33333 |
| 22:36.22 | Imperios | Astor Piazzola <333333333 |
| 22:36.25 | Imperios | Carlos Gardel <333333333333333 |
| 22:36.27 | AdmiralPanda | atm my main playlist is Starset, Imagine Dragons, a bunch of older rock, Swedish House Mafia and Nightcore |
| 22:36.40 | Hachiman | Imagine Dongs |
| 22:36.41 | Imperios | Shostakovitch and Khachaturyan |
| 22:36.42 | AdmiralPanda | and a bit of Pentakill :P |
| 22:36.49 | Xho | Imperios: [sabre dance] |
| 22:36.50 | Wormy_ | I like punk rock, heavy metal, viking metal, some other metal, psychdelic rock, space rock, electronic (but more ambient), ska, some trance but not very much, movie soundtrack music. |
| 22:36.55 | AdmiralPanda | Hachiman: I know you do, what's your point? |
| 22:37.00 | Xho | rekt |
| 22:37.00 | Hachiman | Fuck |
| 22:37.02 | Imperios | Oh and several Crusader songs |
| 22:37.10 | Imperios | Funny that I have them alongside Hezbollah nasheeds |
| 22:37.15 | OluapPlayer | Meanwhile I have no playlist because I don't listen to music |
| 22:37.16 | Imperios | Vysotsky |
| 22:37.17 | Wormy_ | I don't really have playlists as it depends on my mood, plus I only ted to like one or two songs per band or group |
| 22:37.27 | Imperios | Martial industrial |
| 22:37.29 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Honestly that's quite scary |
| 22:37.29 | Wormy_ | Oh I forget: I like country and western for some weird reason |
| 22:37.36 | AdmiralPanda | it's actually been pretty much entirely Starset recently |
| 22:37.38 | OluapPlayer | get spooked |
| 22:37.40 | Imperios | Used to listen to Paul Shapera but not anymore |
| 22:37.45 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_: I'm mostly the same way, though I have a few artists which I really follow |
| 22:37.58 | Imperios | A number of Russian bands you do not know |
| 22:38.09 | Imperios | Jewish traditional music too |
| 22:38.09 | Technobliterator | I have playlists which I listen to depending on my mood, so I'm the opposite |
| 22:38.22 | DrodoEmpire | Mine's a lot of electronic (including all of Madeon's Adventure), a bunch of assorted remixes within that electronic, and like a bit of folk-ish music and Pearl Jam :p |
| 22:38.22 | Imperios | Chopin |
| 22:38.22 | Monet | sits awkwardly in the corner with his Queen and Kenny Loggings tracks. |
| 22:38.26 | Wormy_ | Indie rock too, I used to like that a lot |
| 22:38.27 | Technobliterator | but Bob Marley is the best musician of all time |
| 22:38.31 | Imperios | The first Russian anthem ever |
| 22:38.31 | Technobliterator | QUEEN |
| 22:38.34 | Technobliterator | I love Queen |
| 22:38.38 | Imperios | The Ottoman anthem |
| 22:38.49 | Monet | Actually not Kenny Loggings |
| 22:38.49 | Wormy_ | So majestic ^ |
| 22:38.56 | Monet | David Bowie :) |
| 22:38.59 | Imperios | Metal and rock covers of Iranian tasnifs |
| 22:39.03 | Wormy_ | Hawkwind |
| 22:39.05 | Technobliterator | David Bowie is awesome, yes |
| 22:39.05 | Imperios | Civ V OST music |
| 22:39.13 | Imperios | Jungermann |
| 22:39.15 | DrodoEmpire | *Madeon's "Adventure" album, that is |
| 22:39.19 | Imperios | Some J-rock |
| 22:39.23 | Imperios | K-Pop, some of it too |
| 22:39.27 | Technobliterator | I like lots of hip hop pre-2000s |
| 22:39.32 | Technobliterator | the 2000s are when it died |
| 22:39.36 | Wormy_ | Imperios: You may like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgpoyLoekv8 |
| 22:39.37 | Xho | http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/b9/b957185de0b8234f14375c7702a5058298b5139df4d8c5ce963940b22b9345b9.jpg |
| 22:39.39 | AdmiralPanda | Monet: I've got a bit of Queen, Bowie, bon jovie e.t.c. in my playlist |
| 22:39.40 | Imperios | I listen to K-Pop during workout |
| 22:39.44 | Technobliterator | Eminem and OutKast both retired at the same time |
| 22:39.45 | Imperios | It is very energising |
| 22:39.50 | Technobliterator | and hip hop never really recovered |
| 22:39.54 | Technobliterator | only Kendrick Lamar is good now |
| 22:39.57 | Imperios | Oh and Ice Cube |
| 22:39.59 | Imperios | Ice Cube is good |
| 22:40.02 | Technobliterator | ICE CUBE |
| 22:40.03 | Technobliterator | :D |
| 22:40.09 | Technobliterator | What Ice Cube songs? |
| 22:40.13 | DrodoEmpire | What about Politikz <.< |
| 22:40.19 | Technobliterator | hahahaha |
| 22:40.20 | Imperios | Fuck the POLICE |
| 22:40.26 | Imperios | And Black Korea |
| 22:40.27 | Technobliterator | FUCK LIL WAYNE AND THE GOVERNMENT'S CORRUPT |
| 22:40.31 | DrodoEmpire | ayy |
| 22:40.32 | Technobliterator | FUCK THE GOVERNMENT, CUZ I DONT GIVE A FUCK |
| 22:40.35 | Hachiman | REAL HIP HOP |
| 22:40.39 | Monet | Technobliterator: Not that politiks |
| 22:40.39 | Xho | http://img.ifcdn.com/images/1e730a0eee1aef49c8dc1e177581ad9a50740f2961519d41d2515988e65a5a0f_1.jpg I can't stop laughing |
| 22:40.46 | Technobliterator | Imperios, Fuck Tha Police is an NWA song :P |
| 22:40.47 | DrodoEmpire | ololol |
| 22:40.51 | Technobliterator | Though Ice Cube is in NWA |
| 22:40.53 | DrodoEmpire | Xho: I love those |
| 22:40.57 | Imperios | I checked my library |
| 22:41.10 | Imperios | There is classical music on the harpsichord by Bach |
| 22:41.15 | Imperios | Then immediately after than a Neo-Nazi march |
| 22:41.16 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.20 | Technobliterator | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CPlF-IEkXQ this is a great Ice Cube song |
| 22:41.23 | Imperios | Then immediately after it, I Kissed A Girl |
| 22:41.30 | Technobliterator | because like |
| 22:41.32 | Imperios | Then a Civ V song |
| 22:41.35 | Imperios | Then Let it Go |
| 22:41.39 | Technobliterator | it's the antithesis of everything Ice Cube's music is about |
| 22:41.40 | Imperios | Then another Neo-Nazi march |
| 22:41.40 | Technobliterator | and yet |
| 22:41.43 | Technobliterator | it's so good |
| 22:41.44 | Imperios | Then Istanbul not Constantinople |
| 22:41.50 | Wormy_ | I was about to say you had a good taste, after mentioning Bach.... But that wouldn't have looked good |
| 22:41.58 | Imperios | Then some Latin American metal |
| 22:42.04 | Technobliterator | nah |
| 22:42.09 | Imperios | Some ethnic South American music |
| 22:42.12 | Hachiman | I'M A SPIRITUAL LYRICAL INDIVIDUAL SPIRITUAL INDIVIDUAL |
| 22:42.12 | Technobliterator | classical music is good |
| 22:42.14 | Technobliterator | who cares |
| 22:42.14 | Imperios | Gothic stuff |
| 22:42.23 | Imperios | Prokofiev |
| 22:42.28 | Technobliterator | SKIPPIN AN DIPPIN AN SKIPPIN AN DIPPIN AN FLIPPIN |
| 22:42.29 | Monet | Imperios: You have a...rather varied odd track ist. |
| 22:42.35 | Imperios | ^ See my music tastes literally cannot be weirder |
| 22:42.58 | OluapPlayer | Goth rock is probably the only genre I can say I sometimes listen to |
| 22:43.05 | Imperios | I'll just skim randomly though my music |
| 22:43.08 | Imperios | A MLP remix |
| 22:43.16 | Imperios | Another MLP remix |
| 22:43.24 | Imperios | A lesbian Russian pop song |
| 22:43.28 | Imperios | Joker's theme |
| 22:43.32 | DrodoEmpire | wat |
| 22:43.36 | Xho | Del the Funky Homosapien's got some good tunes as well |
| 22:43.41 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 22:43.46 | Xho | yeh u weren't expecting me to say that were u |
| 22:43.50 | Imperios | An anti-government metal song referencing 1984 |
| 22:43.54 | Technobliterator | I like OST stuff, but I can't say I listen to it regularly |
| 22:43.56 | Imperios | Tango |
| 22:43.57 | Hachiman | Well, Gorillaz are popular for a reason |
| 22:44.02 | Hachiman | Del included |
| 22:44.04 | Imperios | Gothic steampunk song |
| 22:44.12 | Monet | Technobliterator: I ahvep lenty of those |
| 22:44.20 | Wormy_ | How far are you down the rabbit hole? https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a6/c1/00/a6c100cb57c72e95d6fb649f8ccbe968.jpg |
| 22:44.21 | Imperios | Metal cover of an Iranian tasnif |
| 22:44.30 | Imperios | 2000s Russian power metal |
| 22:44.38 | Imperios | Nightwish |
| 22:44.46 | Imperios | Russian gothic darkwave |
| 22:44.49 | AdmiralPanda | approximately half of the music in this playlist would probably have people thinking I'm homicidal if I actually sung any of it out loud |
| 22:44.50 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_ I saw one of those for video games |
| 22:44.54 | Imperios | Russian punk rock |
| 22:44.55 | Imperios | Hellfire |
| 22:44.57 | DrodoEmpire | I was... *really* deep down the rabbit hole XD |
| 22:44.59 | OluapPlayer | "post-eldritch horrorcore" |
| 22:45.01 | OluapPlayer | Consider me interested |
| 22:45.03 | Imperios | More Russian heavy metal |
| 22:45.08 | Hachiman | >core |
| 22:45.12 | Hachiman | You don't wanna go there bud |
| 22:45.14 | Monet | I think posibly my favourite non-dead artist is Frank Klepacki. |
| 22:45.15 | Wormy_ | Drodo: lol |
| 22:45.28 | Hachiman | Music is like an apple; everything is great except the core |
| 22:45.43 | Xho | Sound of God = Meshuggah pls |
| 22:46.16 | Imperios | ^ Try as you may |
| 22:46.21 | Monet | But God's voice causes your heart to explode and mind ot cave in. |
| 22:46.21 | Xho | Tibetan throat singing's quite interesting though |
| 22:46.23 | Imperios | You literally cannot be weirder than myself |
| 22:46.29 | Imperios | In terms of music taste |
| 22:46.32 | Xho | Monet: Meshuggah |
| 22:46.36 | Hachiman | I don't have a playlist because I like to listen to music on the fly and on a whim |
| 22:46.51 | Hachiman | And also because I'm lazy as fuck |
| 22:46.57 | Xho | Imperios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X1LRZGoFXg There |
| 22:46.58 | Monet | Xho: You're not dead yet. |
| 22:47.05 | Hachiman | And indecisive about what I want on a playlist |
| 22:47.06 | Xho | That's what you know |
| 22:47.15 | Imperios | I have playlists for my fictions |
| 22:47.29 | Monet | Xho: Either that or you're not mortal |
| 22:47.36 | Imperios | Xho: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLED4D872E2D01E9CA Mali'Nar playlist |
| 22:47.36 | Monet | Probably that |
| 22:47.50 | Technobliterator | Zargoth's playlist: . |
| 22:47.56 | Imperios | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdseaeaUKc5UKjb1dW7JB45psGX6nFhqk Human playlist |
| 22:47.59 | Imperios | For the Empire of Man |
| 22:48.14 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdeqvhxu7iI Angazhar's playlist |
| 22:48.16 | Hachiman | Xho: Holy shit that song |
| 22:48.18 | Hachiman | I need more of that |
| 22:48.33 | Imperios | Monet: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdseaeaUKc5X2ruGewFuIWf6FW-lFkUZn Brotherhood playlist |
| 22:48.55 | Imperios | Hachiman: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdseaeaUKc5UESEyGaXczGYYkwx6UZiMR Javina playlist |
| 22:49.15 | Xho | Sunn O))) tho |
| 22:49.19 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdseaeaUKc5U6m7vZgNOgYbaDHdQTFyVr Gros playlist |
| 22:49.30 | Xho | That's about the threshold of absolute madness |
| 22:49.33 | Wormy_ | So this is slimepunk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z3Ke3RjgkI |
| 22:49.33 | Monet | Never considreed a playlist for the DI... |
| 22:49.39 | Hachiman | I dunno why but I never got into Sun 0))) |
| 22:49.51 | Hachiman | O even |
| 22:49.54 | Xho | OOOOOOO |
| 22:50.04 | Hachiman | Perhaps I should try again |
| 22:50.12 | OluapPlayer | o |
| 22:50.13 | DrodoEmpire | Drodo playlist would be a weird mix of ethnic music, a bombastic national anthem and piles and piles of EDM tracks |
| 22:50.14 | DrodoEmpire | :p |
| 22:50.30 | DrodoEmpire | basically the only music culture the Drodo have <.< |
| 22:50.43 | Imperios | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9E4C9E79DC29C0E5 Divinarium playlist is pretty obvious |
| 22:50.57 | AdmiralPanda | Fordanta playlist would basically just be the song Point of No Return on repeat |
| 22:51.59 | Wormy_ | The DCP playlist would be patriotic choir or epic war music. |
| 22:52.52 | Wormy_ | Cephalodian music would be all "Turn on, tune in, drop out" |
| 22:53.41 | Imperios | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdseaeaUKc5UKjb1dW7JB45psGX6nFhqk The Empire playlist is my personal pride |
| 22:53.43 | Wormy_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeVLchaoBWU |
| 22:53.44 | Imperios | Take a look guys |
| 22:53.47 | Technobliterator | I don't even need to say what the Loron playlist is |
| 22:53.48 | Technobliterator | 8D |
| 22:54.02 | Hachiman | Politikz |
| 22:54.06 | DrodoEmpire | ^ |
| 22:54.19 | DrodoEmpire | Loron are the true lyrical spiritual individuals |
| 22:54.23 | Technobliterator | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWTrAVLhbS8 - Imagine this, but less comprehensible |
| 22:54.31 | Technobliterator | and without a genuine message |
| 22:54.40 | Imperios | OluapPlayer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWCgG8OQ-yo&list=PLdseaeaUKc5U6m7vZgNOgYbaDHdQTFyVr&index=1 |
| 22:54.48 | Imperios | This song is basically Gros |
| 22:55.15 | Wormy_ | yay Soviet March |
| 22:55.31 | OluapPlayer | >Imperious |
| 22:55.41 | OluapPlayer | I'm not surprised you know this music |
| 22:56.17 | Imperios | This actually reminds me why I took this nickname |
| 22:56.19 | Wormy_ | DCP war music would be like Mars, God of War https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0bcRCCg01I |
| 22:56.27 | Imperios | I actually named myself after a Power Rangers character |
| 22:56.43 | Imperios | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5Vrr1SiQpU Impy |
| 22:56.49 | Technobliterator | yeah, in cryllic |
| 22:56.50 | Technobliterator | :V |
| 22:56.58 | Xho | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3Yc3HhSl1Q Still one of the best music videos of all time |
| 22:57.21 | Xho | Because it makes absolutely no sense |
| 22:58.10 | Imperios | Technobliterator: Because fuck your Latin |
| 22:58.36 | Hachiman | Knights of Cydonia is the best B movie that was actually a music video |
| 22:58.45 | Imperios | Does anyone remember Power Rangers guys |
| 22:58.50 | Imperios | The fantasy series in particular |
| 22:59.00 | Xho | I would pay to watch a full feature film of it |
| 22:59.10 | Hachiman | Aye |
| 22:59.19 | Wormy_ | I imagine Loron music as chav music. Chav music is something of it own |
| 22:59.21 | Monet | Imperios: Yeah...I remember |
| 22:59.49 | Monet | WHen I was young I never got why hitting the rangers = explosions. |
| 22:59.49 | Technobliterator | nah, I definitely imagine them listening to 80s/a bit of 90s rap |
| 23:00.09 | Hachiman | A campy sci-fi Western set on a terraformed Martian frontier |
| 23:00.17 | Hachiman | A+ for creativity |
| 23:00.32 | Wormy_ | It's like someone's taken the worst of rap and electronica, mixed it with dog shit and then fed it to someone with a high pitch voice |
| 23:00.54 | DrodoEmpire | olol |
| 23:02.29 | DrodoEmpire | Now I just *need* to hear an example of this music. XD |
| 23:02.57 | Wormy_ | This is something like it, I guess https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgCLRz6fX1E |
| 23:03.32 | DrodoEmpire | Auugh, you weren't kidding when you said the worst of electronica I'll asy that much >.< |
| 23:03.36 | DrodoEmpire | So... Damn... Generic |
| 23:03.38 | Imperios | Technobliterator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqFpEfpj_Ns We should do that in Da Reckoning |
| 23:04.43 | Wormy_ | Now imagine chabs blairing it loud on the bus going "bwap bwap" 8 in the morning |
| 23:05.04 | DrodoEmpire | Oh dear |
| 23:05.42 | DrodoEmpire | Chavs sound like a load of fun. XD The worst we have here in Canada is kids thinking they're gangsters |
| 23:05.53 | DrodoEmpire | who're obnoxious but thankfully stick mostly to their own kind :p |
| 23:05.57 | Xho | That's what a chav is |
| 23:06.05 | DrodoEmpire | And by that I mean "beat the shit out of their own kind" |
| 23:06.14 | Xho | yup |
| 23:06.16 | DrodoEmpire | Nah I think its a bit different |
| 23:06.16 | Technobliterator | they're really not a lot of fun |
| 23:06.25 | Wormy_ | Chavs do cause trouble for others if they want toi |
| 23:06.27 | DrodoEmpire | maybe not though |
| 23:07.13 | Technobliterator | Imperios, lmao |
| 23:07.15 | Technobliterator | yes |
| 23:07.30 | Monet | DrodoEMpire: WHat do you call these thugs-in-training? |
| 23:07.32 | DrodoEmpire | You also have people from the country in my town at least; though, besides being a bit loud they're harmless enough |
| 23:07.46 | Imperios | Also Lorons should be squatting |
| 23:07.47 | DrodoEmpire | The guys I'm talking about? |
| 23:07.49 | DrodoEmpire | No real one name |
| 23:08.08 | DrodoEmpire | Usually just "wannabe gangsters" or "half of the class" <.< |
| 23:09.12 | DrodoEmpire | Also I *really* don't think most of them are "thugs-in-training"- Its a phase, and they'll grow out of it |
| 23:09.43 | DrodoEmpire | So I don't judge them too harshly or take what they say or do too seriously |
| 23:09.55 | Wormy_ | Trouble is if wannabe gangsters, they end up being used by real gangsters and then pay the price |
| 23:09.57 | Technobliterator | I wish that were true here |
| 23:10.05 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_ yeah I've seen that |
| 23:10.14 | Monet | Some of the mdo grow out of it. |
| 23:10.25 | DrodoEmpire | This one guy I knew isn't real hard himself, but he associates with the wrong people |
| 23:10.30 | DrodoEmpire | The sort that rob places and whatnot |
| 23:10.38 | Monet | I think one chav I knew grew up to travel the world and go to parties. |
| 23:10.44 | Technobliterator | Over here, millions of tattoos, smoking and drinking all the time, knife crime, all things that are common around here |
| 23:10.50 | Wormy_ | The thing about chav is that its more than just a hoodie, its a lifestyle based on entitlement |
| 23:10.55 | DrodoEmpire | Right |
| 23:11.04 | Technobliterator | And I don't mean the country, I mean my area |
| 23:11.05 | DrodoEmpire | Its a mindset and a culture in and of itself |
| 23:11.08 | Wormy_ | So you have generations of chavs |
| 23:11.14 | Wormy_ | yep |
| 23:11.20 | DrodoEmpire | Tech: Over here that's the shit that goes on in the trailer park |
| 23:11.24 | Technobliterator | I knew someone who killed someone else with a knife while being stabbed in the neck and barely surviving |
| 23:11.28 | Monet | Technobliterator: I used to live in a tow nwith a chav problem. Not so much knife crime though |
| 23:11.41 | Technobliterator | and so he's basically hospitalised for life |
| 23:11.41 | DrodoEmpire | Of course Trailer Park Boys also goes on in the trailer park so we tolerate that eyesore's existence <.< |
| 23:11.47 | Technobliterator | and has to live with the fact he killed someone |
| 23:11.53 | Technobliterator | and if he ever gets out, that's a lifetime in jail |
| 23:11.57 | Monet | The chavs of my area were mostly mouthy kids with a penchant for threatening peopel and vandalism. |
| 23:11.58 | DrodoEmpire | That's terrible. |
| 23:12.01 | Xho | https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/12961330_1185820778108464_8833006250244468211_o.jpg Hachiman and OluapPlayer, 2016 |
| 23:12.23 | OluapPlayer | Accurate |
| 23:12.24 | Technobliterator | even though people would argue he did it out of self defense, he killed someone with a knife |
| 23:12.58 | DrodoEmpire | I think self-defense is justified, though you need to be in danger of being imminently killed *yourself* to actually kill somebody in self-defense |
| 23:13.06 | DrodoEmpire | Its the idea of proportional response |
| 23:13.21 | Technobliterator | Well, he did almost die, so I guess so |
| 23:13.27 | Xho | Technobliterator: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/12993608_1048532681872193_4198513973528444677_n.jpg?oh=7c8e19f363a034d0faa38d1a998c82da&oe=57829ADC |
| 23:13.29 | Technobliterator | But that's not going to look in court |
| 23:13.33 | Technobliterator | look good* |
| 23:13.35 | Wormy_ | I know someone who is a skinhead who is actually quite nice deep down even though he threatened to break my nose a few times (and not a neonazi skinhead). Basically he gets loads of hate for it and follows the same pattern of hanging around with the wrong crowd |
| 23:13.47 | Technobliterator | lmao xho |
| 23:14.07 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_ I know a lot of rough people like that yeah |
| 23:14.15 | DrodoEmpire | Good of character but wrong crowd |
| 23:14.17 | DrodoEmpire | Sad really |
| 23:14.17 | Wormy_ | He's had fights and has been arrested a few times |
| 23:15.22 | Technobliterator | over here, people throw around the first part of their postcode like some sort of gang sign |
| 23:15.35 | DrodoEmpire | hur |
| 23:15.42 | Technobliterator | so it's B17 Boyz if you're from a certain part, B21 another, etc |
| 23:16.05 | Wormy_ | wheres the imagination in that |
| 23:16.21 | DrodoEmpire | There's a very noticable regional division where I live (if somebody's from Cape Breton, you *know* they're from Cape Breton, etc.) but its never so tribal |
| 23:16.22 | Xho | lol imagination |
| 23:16.24 | Technobliterator | like the area they live |
| 23:16.35 | Technobliterator | somehow makes them obligated to hate people from another area |
| 23:17.15 | Wormy_ | Hm, I know someone who went to London and was told if they walked across the street to a shop without walking the wrong way around, they would die. |
| 23:17.21 | Monet | Technobliterator: Shit I thought that was unique to my hometown. |
| 23:17.27 | Wormy_ | *the long way round |
| 23:17.29 | DrodoEmpire | (I swear everybody north of New Glasgow in the whole of Atlantic Canada speaks an entirely different language) |
| 23:17.34 | DrodoEmpire | (Its not even Newfoundland anymore) |
| 23:17.39 | Technobliterator | nah |
| 23:17.42 | Technobliterator | I bet it's everywhere |
| 23:17.52 | Wormy_ | We have similar richness in accent and dialect |
| 23:17.59 | Xho | I don't know anyone who's been seriously injured or killed due to gang violence or similar |
| 23:18.03 | Monet | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.15 | Xho | Which is quite surprising since I know a fair few dead people |
| 23:18.20 | Technobliterator | I know too many who have |
| 23:18.27 | Technobliterator | used to be worse when I lived in a worse area |
| 23:18.29 | Technobliterator | : | |
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| 23:18.48 | Wormy_ | I know of a friend of a friend who got stabbed and died by a gang that attacked for no reason. But never knew the person |
| 23:19.00 | DrodoEmpire | The UK sounds like one of those settings you read in a sci-fi novel holy hell |
| 23:19.07 | Wormy_ | Fortunately I don't live in a city |
| 23:19.12 | Technobliterator | yeah, but Drodo, remember this |
| 23:19.22 | Technobliterator | replacing "knife" with "gun", and you have the US as well |
| 23:19.27 | DrodoEmpire | I mean I'm sure bad stuff happens here too (actually I hear all about it) but still |
| 23:19.31 | DrodoEmpire | Well sorta yeah |
| 23:19.40 | Xho | The weirdest murder case I know about is a friend's mother who was murdered by her husband because he got brainwashed/indoctrinated by a witch doctor |
| 23:19.42 | Wormy_ | Not all the UK is bad or unsafe, just certain areas |
| 23:19.48 | DrodoEmpire | Right, of course |
| 23:19.59 | Monet | DrodoEmpire: The urban UK is no place for the faint-of-heart. |
| 23:20.01 | Technobliterator | Like, it's not b17 boyz over there |
| 23:20.04 | Technobliterator | it's bloods and crips |
| 23:20.11 | DrodoEmpire | I know yeah |
| 23:20.17 | Technobliterator | There's less of a racial divide, though |
| 23:20.21 | DrodoEmpire | Most big urban areas have youth gangs |
| 23:20.28 | Tybusen | TBF I'm pretty sure many of the largest urban areas in the world have a lot of that sort of crime |
| 23:20.36 | Xho | Other than that it's just friends I have killing themselves over drug overdoses or car accidents |
| 23:20.56 | Tybusen | LA, Chicago, and NY all still have crime problems in certain areas |
| 23:20.58 | DrodoEmpire | Because, you know, infrastructure is obsolete and nobody really cares anymore |
| 23:21.22 | Technobliterator | yeah, yet LA is one of the places I want to move to |
| 23:21.23 | Technobliterator | : | |
| 23:21.29 | Wormy_ | In fact I've been lucky to not experience most of what Xho, Techno etc experienced or saw or heard of because I'm in a much safer area |
| 23:21.38 | Xho | bloody northerners |
| 23:21.53 | DrodoEmpire | I sorta want to stay in Canada if at all possible |
| 23:21.54 | Wormy_ | Worst you get here are murderous pig farmers |
| 23:22.03 | DrodoEmpire | US is alright but you know |
| 23:22.03 | Xho | Southampton apparently has the highest violent crime rate in the UK |
| 23:22.17 | Wormy_ | But actually Nottingham is pretty rough |
| 23:22.17 | Technobliterator | Canada is another place I am considering moving to |
| 23:22.19 | DrodoEmpire | And if I go to Europe/UK I'll get killed for being mistaken for an American |
| 23:22.33 | DrodoEmpire | *because I'm mistaken that is |
| 23:22.33 | Technobliterator | But I'm not sure if the CS job opportunities are as good there |
| 23:22.39 | DrodoEmpire | I wouldn't know |
| 23:22.41 | Technobliterator | Which would defeat most of the point of me moving at all |
| 23:22.42 | Monet | Technobliterator: I think northern LA is supposed ot be slightly better. |
| 23:22.46 | Technobliterator | mhm |
| 23:22.50 | Technobliterator | south central is the bad part |
| 23:22.52 | Tybusen | LA is nice if you're in the Valley or around Westwood/Hollywood |
| 23:23.02 | Xho | Or among the highest anyway, Southampton's violent crime rate is 42.4 per 1000 population compared to the national average of 16.7 |
| 23:23.07 | Wormy_ | I cannot get over how accurate this is http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Nottingham |
| 23:23.26 | Tybusen | South Central is not a nice place (though it's getting a little better), and places like East Covina are a little sketchy too |
| 23:23.54 | Technobliterator | There were schools over here where the crime rates were so high and it was awful |
| 23:24.00 | Technobliterator | but then they became acamedies |
| 23:24.01 | Monet | WHere is most of the software industry? |
| 23:24.08 | DrodoEmpire | " Nottingham has also been twinned with Baghdad since November 2003 and shows similarities in its values and culture. In fact many people have mistaken it for the Iraq capital, most notably George Bush who deployed 3000 U.S Marines to the city in Spring 2004." |
| 23:24.11 | Technobliterator | Mostly, in California |
| 23:24.13 | DrodoEmpire | My sides |
| 23:24.33 | Technobliterator | That's where a lot of it is based |
| 23:24.38 | The_Randomness | DrodoEmpire: savage |
| 23:24.42 | Tybusen | The US software industry is mainly in either Silicon Valley around San Jose, in Seattle, or around Silicon Beach in west LA |
| 23:24.44 | Wormy_ | All these people are real and I have come across them http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Nottingham#People.2FPlaces |
| 23:24.45 | Technobliterator | Hence wanting to move there |
| 23:24.49 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 23:25.13 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_: ohgod |
| 23:25.17 | Xho | Uncyclopedia is great |
| 23:25.20 | Xho | Shitpostmania |
| 23:25.22 | Monet | I mean where in LA are the software firms. |
| 23:25.31 | Technobliterator | that's one of the main things the US is leading in anymore |
| 23:25.36 | Wormy_ | Very little shitposting on that page |
| 23:26.34 | Tybusen | Monet: West LA has been called Silicon Beach because there's quite a few start-ups coming out of there |
| 23:26.56 | Tybusen | West LA is also right next to UCLA and is one of the nicer neighborhoods of LA |
| 23:27.19 | Technobliterator | lots of youtubers move to LA and live close |
| 23:27.21 | Technobliterator | for some reason |
| 23:28.11 | Monet | I think LA has like, really good internet. |
| 23:28.17 | Xho | HAchiman: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Meshuggah |
| 23:28.24 | Technobliterator | most of America does |
| 23:28.32 | Technobliterator | our broadband is fairly awful |
| 23:28.38 | Hachiman | >picture of Muppets |
| 23:28.42 | Hachiman | My sides are already in space |
| 23:28.47 | Monet | AMerica is the home of COmcast though |
| 23:29.06 | DrodoEmpire | I'm not sure how good or bad my town's internet is |
| 23:29.09 | Hachiman | >Thomas The Taänke Engine |
| 23:29.10 | Tybusen | Well, urban US has very good internet. Not as much in the backwaters though |
| 23:29.12 | Hachiman | Fucking kek |
| 23:29.21 | Tybusen | And there are quite a few backwater regions in the US |
| 23:29.24 | Monet | Tybusen: THat's what I understand. |
| 23:29.31 | DrodoEmpire | If its as outdated as the rest of our infrastructure than I should be thankful I'm not still on dial-up |
| 23:29.32 | The_Randomness | Comcast is my ISP, and I have no issues with their service, even if I don't like some of their decisions |
| 23:29.54 | Monet | Like places were cooper wire is still a new thing. |
| 23:29.55 | Monet | copper* |
| 23:30.00 | DrodoEmpire | jesus |
| 23:30.20 | Xho | Hachiman: "Note that Fredrik tried to express his burden of being one of five persons of God in the track "UFOria" in Sol Niger Within stating: "My mother is god. My father is god. My brothers. My sisters. All are god. God to the right. God to the left." On the other hand, these five persons of God are equal to Five Elements, therefore, logically deduced, one member of Meshuggah must be Milla Jovovich (The Fifth Element)." |
| 23:30.30 | DrodoEmpire | Actually now that I think about it the ISPs here are... actually pretty competitive just in the province so I mean I've never had complaints about the service |
| 23:30.37 | Xho | This kills the Xho |
| 23:30.46 | DrodoEmpire | I have nothing to compare it to though |
| 23:30.56 | Hachiman | Oh God |
| 23:31.30 | Monet | I'd say Britain ha slightly better net infrastructure because most places ahve 2, 3 or more available ISPs. |
| 23:31.45 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah same here |
| 23:31.56 | Monet | Lot of places in the backwaters of the States - from what I hear - only have one. |
| 23:32.02 | DrodoEmpire | You basically have Bell, Eastlink, and Rogers to choose from |
| 23:32.15 | DrodoEmpire | For cable/Internet |
| 23:32.48 | Wormy_ | Drodo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVY8uAncsc |
| 23:32.56 | Tybusen | Monet: Also consider the fact that Britain as a whole I think is smaller than the state of California |
| 23:33.26 | Monet | Tybusen: Yeah it helps. |
| 23:33.29 | Tybusen | Communication infrastructure is not as difficult to implement in a smaller space |
| 23:33.32 | Xho | Hachiman: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Yoko_Ono |
| 23:34.06 | Tybusen | Yeah in certain places there are cable monopolies, and that's where companies like Comcast and Time Warner get their shitty reputation |
| 23:34.31 | Tybusen | I hear that there's one company that has a virtual monopoly over all internet service in Australia |
| 23:34.39 | Tybusen | I think it's Telestra or something |
| 23:34.48 | Monet | Look at South Korea - The size of Ireland and high-speed fibre optic for 95% of the population. |
| 23:35.34 | DrodoEmpire | Wormy_: Look! Its a first! *Social behavior*! |
| 23:36.09 | Wormy_ | That's the Hipster part of Nottingham, which Monet visited recently |
| 23:36.37 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 23:37.41 | Monet | As you said there are nice places in the UK |
| 23:37.57 | Wormy_ | Last year two buses crashed the drivers had a figh over it |
| 23:38.09 | Technobliterator | No one's denying there are nice places |
| 23:38.27 | Technobliterator | but if you ask me, there are much fewer nice places than much of the world |
| 23:38.35 | DrodoEmpire | Its just funnier to talk about the shittier places <.< |
| 23:39.15 | Wormy_ | Well, I dunno. Rural Spain is mostly just a plain. |
| 23:39.20 | Monet | http://gb.fotolibra.com/images/previews/918303-rochester-high-street-in-kent.jpeg here's my local high street |
| 23:39.32 | Wormy_ | The Northern Spanish countryside is pretty |
| 23:40.05 | Wormy_ | English countrside however, always changes |
| 23:40.13 | Monet | I'd argue the UK may have fewer nicep laces than much of the -devleoped- world. |
| 23:40.24 | DrodoEmpire | Really? |
| 23:40.26 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 23:40.37 | DrodoEmpire | I dunno, when England's nice its *really* nice |
| 23:40.50 | Monet | The countryside certainly is |
| 23:40.56 | DrodoEmpire | Maybe I'm just used to what I see in NS but honestly there's not much to look at |
| 23:41.04 | DrodoEmpire | Some nice buildings in town and that's it |
| 23:41.12 | Monet | One of Britain's appeals is our old-old buildings are very nice. |
| 23:41.18 | DrodoEmpire | If you like the forest we got plenty of woods |
| 23:41.38 | Wormy_ | With big scary animals |
| 23:41.48 | Hachiman | "Pepperoni is the shittiest topping you can put on pizza next to no toppings; if you're at a party and all your friends want pepperoni, it's time for you to get new friends. I intentionally order toppings on pizza that nobody likes, like extra onions, chicken hearts, and whiskey. Now I have no friends and I've never been happier." |
| 23:42.06 | Wormy_ | I hate to say it, but I kind of like it that bars and wolves are gone. |
| 23:42.11 | Wormy_ | *bears |
| 23:42.13 | Wormy_ | from here |
| 23:42.38 | Wormy_ | Nice not to get mauled while walking your dog |
| 23:42.40 | DrodoEmpire | Ehh, if you aren't an idiot chances are a bear attack isn't going to get you. XD |
| 23:42.59 | DrodoEmpire | Animals stick to their own places and avoid humans almost all of the time |
| 23:43.28 | DrodoEmpire | So as long as you keep in town or on trails the liklihood of coming across and animal that can kill you is *really* slim |
| 23:43.34 | DrodoEmpire | *an animal |
| 23:43.48 | Wormy_ | But I like going off trail |
| 23:43.55 | Wormy_ | Yep, I'd get eaten |
| 23:43.59 | DrodoEmpire | No. XD |
| 23:44.02 | DrodoEmpire | Worst you' |
| 23:44.06 | DrodoEmpire | *you'll see is some deer |
| 23:44.46 | Hachiman | But I hear raccoons and bears often invade people's homes |
| 23:44.52 | Hachiman | To eat their garbage or their pets |
| 23:45.00 | DrodoEmpire | lol, no. |
| 23:45.07 | DrodoEmpire | Hardly happens, certainly not in NS |
| 23:45.31 | DrodoEmpire | That's all puffed-up nonsense. Raccoon attacks can happen, and bear attacks almost never |
| 23:45.38 | DrodoEmpire | You have to be *really* unlucky >.< |
| 23:45.49 | Monet | Or really stupid. |
| 23:45.54 | Wormy_ | Badger attacks happen here sometimes |
| 23:47.00 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 23:47.03 | Wormy_ | One man opened his door to the sound of knocking. A badger jumped up and bit his arm. His wife cleaned up the wounds, picking out what she thought were badger hairs. They turned out to be his nerves. |
| 23:47.12 | DrodoEmpire | Oh ouch. |
| 23:47.31 | DrodoEmpire | Yeah animal attacks are *really* bad when they happen- But they're rare |
| 23:47.50 | DrodoEmpire | And this is coming from me, who while I live in town live in a province that's not all that developed, truth be told |
| 23:47.58 | DrodoEmpire | Still *huge* amounts of woods around |
| 23:48.06 | Wormy_ | I suppose more people are attacked by farm animals than wild animals, so we aren't any safer from that. |
| 23:48.07 | DrodoEmpire | Less than a million people |
| 23:49.29 | Hachiman | "Every time I hear a baby crying in public, I do everyone a favour by throwing it away. You're welcome! Children crying is different to babies crying because children cry so hard they actually lose their breaths for a few seconds. This is disappointing because they keep breathing a few seconds later." |
| 23:50.40 | Hachiman | "Kids laughing; they sound like someone dropping a plate in a restaurant, except that plate is made out of vocal cords." |
| 23:51.08 | Technobliterator | where the fuck is that quote from |
| 23:51.24 | Technobliterator | that's the dryest humour I've heard in a while : | |
| 23:52.06 | Monet | Sounds like somrthing Charle Brooker would have said many years ago. |
| 23:52.42 | Hachiman | Maddox hur |
| 23:52.51 | *** join/#sporewiki dino82_ (d8dd47aa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.221.71.170) |
| 23:53.10 | dino82_ | hi |
| 23:53.21 | Monet | Hi |
| 23:53.24 | DrodoEmpire | Hello |
| 23:53.42 | Hachiman | "Cackling; a cackle is to a laugh what a shovel is to a face." |
| 23:54.22 | Monet | What a delightful chap. |
| 23:56.40 | dino82_ | howz all doing! |
| 23:56.56 | Monet | Good |
| 23:57.48 | Hachiman | "Second, I never sucker-punch babies; they're *babies*, you don't have to sneak up on them." |
| 23:59.02 | dino82_ | great to hear! |
