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| 00:00.45 | Wormy__ | OluapPlayer, Technobliterator: Turned out to be a bigger section than I intended, but here's Loron vs Mantisorac madness http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Da_Reckoning#Ants_against_ants |
| 00:00.56 | Wormy__ | an appropriate track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnpDg-sukLo&list=PL4077DDB2ACDEE180&index=19 |
| 00:00.58 | Technobliterator | :o |
| 00:01.02 | Wormy__ | Charles_Murray too |
| 00:02.42 | Technobliterator | "Unfortunately for Knar'gank, many of his Boyz were not quite as intelligent as him, sometimes forgetting not to blare out their rap battles into hyperspace for all to hear.[...] And better still, his Boyz had pirated a strange and crystalline artifact being transported through a nearby hyperlane. It didn't appear technological, and was just small enough to fit around his neck. He thought it was "Propa bling"." |
| 00:02.47 | Technobliterator | this is so spot on |
| 00:04.52 | Technobliterator | Wormy__, this is amazing |
| 00:04.54 | Technobliterator | I love it |
| 00:05.05 | Technobliterator | 10/10 accurate Loron depiction |
| 00:05.13 | OluapPlayer | Indeed |
| 00:05.21 | OluapPlayer | Good job |
| 00:05.35 | OluapPlayer | Loron vs Mantisorac is an interesting match-up |
| 00:06.26 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 00:06.40 | Technobliterator | I love how it was basically oversized bugs squashing oversized bugs |
| 00:06.42 | Wormy__ | Thanks, I'm glad it went well |
| 00:07.01 | Wormy__ | It was a battle that just had to be done |
| 00:10.56 | Wormy__ | I personally liked adding this part - "and even the Loron began to tire as they had forgotten to microwave enough pizza that morning." |
| 00:11.29 | Technobliterator | yeah |
| 00:11.31 | Technobliterator | I spotted that too |
| 00:11.34 | Technobliterator | lmao |
| 00:31.42 | Wormy__ | goodnight |
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| 08:20.38 | ImpyDroid | hi |
| 08:21.05 | Ghelae | Hello. |
| 08:29.46 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink: http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/7b/Tertamian_Coat_of_Arms.png/revision/latest?cb=20160407155927 |
| 08:30.02 | Liquid_Ink | Very sexy |
| 08:35.08 | Liquid_Ink | You've become very good at symbol making |
| 08:41.14 | ImpyDroid | Thanks ^^ |
| 08:42.48 | ImpyDroid | The shield is based on the Venhokwe symbol btw |
| 08:43.06 | Liquid_Ink | Yes, I recognised it. I'm flattered |
| 09:49.05 | ImpyDroid | I imagine they'd took the Venhokwe symbol and reinterpreted it as something more military, like a shield |
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| 10:04.00 | ImpyDroid | Liquid_Ink: Speaking of peacefulness, apparently a Muslim Dagestani teenager pissed on a Buddhist statue in Kalmykia |
| 10:04.42 | ImpyDroid | The angered Kalmyks basically beat him half to death and forced him to apologise on his knees before the statue |
| 10:04.59 | Liquid_Ink | Oh dear |
| 10:05.48 | ImpyDroid | https://youtu.be/jBd-4A6ESNQ There's a video of it too |
| 10:06.01 | Liquid_Ink | I'd rather not |
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| 11:08.19 | Liquid_Ink | I was going to, with what limited function I could get out of it, simply close everything and let my virus scan go through |
| 11:08.38 | Liquid_Ink | But then we just replaced the monitor |
| 11:08.53 | Liquid_Ink | Just temporarily. This resolution is terrible. |
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| 12:34.27 | ImpyAndroid | hi |
| 12:34.58 | OluapPlayer | Hi |
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| 12:49.31 | Wormy_ | http://imgur.com/gallery/AY6cFSl |
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| 13:17.43 | Jepardi | Hi |
| 13:19.13 | ImpyAndroid | hi |
| 13:21.23 | ImpyAndroid | Hachiman Wormy_: So a Dagestani teenager pissed on a Buddhist statue in Kalmykia recently (Kalmykia and Dagestan being regions in Russia), recorded the act, and uploaded it on YouTube) |
| 13:21.33 | ImpyAndroid | Guess what the Kalmyk Buddhists did |
| 13:21.40 | Hachiman | Not give a shit? |
| 13:22.58 | ImpyAndroid | A crowd of angered Kalmyks found the perpetrator, beat him half to death and then forced him to apologise to Buddha on his knees |
| 13:23.29 | Hachiman | but dats not buddhism |
| 13:23.41 | ImpyAndroid | *Russian* Buddhism |
| 13:24.00 | ImpyAndroid | Besides Kalmyks are Mongolian |
| 13:24.19 | ImpyAndroid | https://youtu.be/jBd-4A6ESNQ There's a video of it too |
| 13:25.46 | Hachiman | ImpyAndroid: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:The_Goldhawk_Chronicles#Praise_the_Sun chek dis |
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| 13:48.28 | Wormy_away | ImpyDroid: I'm not really surprised, Buddhism is a religion and so has all the trappings of every other kind of social in-group. |
| 13:49.12 | Wormy_away | There are Buddhist terrorists murdering muslims in South East Asia |
| 13:49.46 | Wormy_away | There has long been Buddhist warriors in China, Tibet, Mongolia and Japan |
| 13:51.31 | Wormy_away | Buddhist philosophy is different in that it is sees itself as fallible, at least; As they say in Zen Buddhism "If you find the Buddha, kill him". And I suppose there are many Buddhists who are peaceful because of it's philosophy. |
| 13:58.03 | Wormy_away | I like Buddhism and Eastern religions more than Western ones but that doesn't mean I'm going to hold it on a pedestal and not criticise it. |
| 14:02.15 | Wormy_away | I have practised Taoist tai chi and nei kung, Hindu Kundalini yoga, Tibetan Buddhist dream yoga, Zen Buddhist meditation, Hermetic magic and western Psychonaut mentations/techniques. |
| 14:03.07 | Wormy_away | I believe this to be the science of inner experience https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychonautics |
| 14:03.24 | Wormy_away | One must be sceptical too, in order to do it |
| 14:08.29 | ImpyDroid | Hachiman: *IS iris intensifies* |
| 14:08.32 | ImpyDroid | *Isiris |
| 14:36.43 | Technobliterator | OluapPlayer, want to rp the next final front section at some point? |
| 14:37.47 | OluapPlayer | I'm free all day |
| 14:39.23 | Technobliterator | alright |
| 14:39.29 | Technobliterator | Same here |
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| 16:11.42 | Technobliterator | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Da_Reckoning#Da_Last_Hope new section, yo |
| 16:11.57 | Technobliterator | Wormy_away, I threw tons of programmer in-jokes into that bit :p |
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| 16:25.30 | Xho | SQUAWK |
| 16:26.10 | Wormy_away | cluck |
| 16:26.44 | Wormy_away | Jo: I'll read it in a bit |
| 16:30.20 | OluapPlayer | birb |
| 16:31.56 | Tek0516 | So apparently Stellaris even has ringworlds in it, built by the game's"fallen empires" |
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| 17:01.35 | Xho | OluapPlayer Hachiman ImpyDroid2: y we no sand |
| 17:01.59 | OluapPlayer | Hachi's afk and Imp's on droid |
| 17:02.09 | OluapPlayer | Imp never rps when he's on droid |
| 17:02.10 | ImpyDroid2 | Y |
| 17:02.38 | OluapPlayer | We would have rp'd yesterday but you took too long to show up |
| 17:02.46 | Xho | Thursday's my busy day |
| 17:02.48 | Xho | u kno dis shi |
| 17:02.59 | OluapPlayer | No I don't hur |
| 17:03.03 | Xho | well u do nao |
| 17:03.12 | Xho | It's been my busy day for like three years |
| 17:03.22 | OluapPlayer | I've not noticed |
| 17:03.44 | ImpyDroid2 | Wednesday and Monday are busy day for me |
| 17:06.09 | Xho | The PM's week: Mon: "It's private" Tue: "I have no shares" Wed: "We have no shares" Thu: "I had some shares" Fri: "I killed Bambi" |
| 17:06.12 | Xho | Very true |
| 17:07.17 | OluapPlayer | That escalated quickly |
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| 17:31.42 | Xho | Okay now I'm pissed off |
| 17:31.56 | Xho | I was doing a model in Zbrush and irreversibly deleted it by accident |
| 17:32.30 | OluapPlayer | Ouch |
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| 17:37.20 | Wormy_away | ZBrush controls are pretty uncomfortable |
| 17:39.09 | Xho | I'm alright with ZBrush but it was being a real pain |
| 17:39.17 | Xho | I couldn't keep the camera under control |
| 17:40.19 | Wormy_away | Yeah, that was my main issue with it |
| 17:54.31 | ImpyDroid2 | Charles_Bot: I have one rather weird question about the French Empire, can you answer it? |
| 17:54.46 | Charles_Bot | Absolutely |
| 17:57.00 | ImpyDroid2 | How liberal is France in terms of cultural mores, particularily when it comes to sexuality and the like? |
| 17:57.03 | Charles_Bot | (Parenthetical: I was told by a scholar of comparative literature that my ad hoc assessment of the structure of Nazi Germany was completely wrong. Being told off like that publicly dragged me down for he rest of the day. This morning, I muster the courage to look it up, and I WAS F***ING CORRECT!) |
| 17:57.28 | Charles_Bot | (IT'S THERE, SECOND LINE OF THE WIKIPEDIA PAGE) |
| 17:57.50 | ImpyDroid2 | Dense fuckers hur |
| 17:59.19 | Charles_Bot | What's funny is that I had no idea. I was just guessing, because I study these things. You start to get a feeling for patterns, what causes what, how systems evolve, etc. I reasoned it was most logical for Weimar Germany to have evolved in a certain way, and I was right |
| 18:00.04 | Charles_Bot | But to your question |
| 18:01.44 | Charles_Bot | France contains a great many distinct cultures, so it really depends on where you go. If you're in Metropolitan France, you can expect a moderately liberal (by French standards) stance. In the east of Metro France, you get a bit more liberal and individualistic |
| 18:02.07 | Charles_Bot | French Andromeda is also a bunch of different cultures, but is on the whole more conservative |
| 18:02.13 | ImpyDroid2 | Hm |
| 18:02.56 | ImpyDroid2 | I am just wondering how many affairs Christelle could have got away with without causing a scandal |
| 18:03.01 | Charles_Bot | I say "by French standards" because the French are -very- open when it comes to nudity, relationships, etc. sexuality is an acknowledged part of life, not stigmatized |
| 18:03.31 | ImpyDroid2 | Excellent |
| 18:03.33 | Charles_Bot | Is she a metropolitan, or a French Andromedan? |
| 18:03.37 | ImpyDroid2 | Hm |
| 18:03.45 | ImpyDroid2 | Yeah Metropolitan |
| 18:03.54 | ImpyDroid2 | By birth at least |
| 18:04.10 | Charles_Bot | For that audience, her private life doesn't matter |
| 18:04.21 | Charles_Bot | As long as it stays out of her professional life |
| 18:04.38 | Charles_Bot | But for the French Andromedans, it will most definitely drag down her character |
| 18:04.41 | Charles_Bot | And integrity |
| 18:06.08 | ImpyDroid2 | This could be at point of contention |
| 18:06.41 | Charles_Bot | Alexandre - Welcome to my life. |
| 18:12.40 | Xho | I do wonder whether humans have more complicated psychology than that of other aliens |
| 18:20.42 | ImpyDroid2 | That may explain the planet of hats trope |
| 18:23.26 | OluapPlayer | Planet of hats exists because we are humans trying to come up with traits for non-existent things |
| 18:24.05 | OluapPlayer | Realistically I reckon aliens would have an equally complicated psychology to us |
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| 18:31.21 | Xho | Unless you're a Loron |
| 18:31.33 | Xho | Unless the Loron are so psychologically complex that it manifests as utter stupidity |
| 18:32.16 | Imperios | I have been trying to explore Radeon psychology and why they are the way they are |
| 18:32.22 | Imperios | Not sure if I succeeded |
| 18:32.25 | Imperios | I probably didn't |
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| 18:39.16 | DrodoEmpire | Hi everyone |
| 18:39.48 | Xho | meow |
| 18:42.10 | Imperios | Hi |
| 18:43.44 | Imperios | Xho: So recently a Muslim Dagestani 22 year old martial artist punched the national statue of Buddha in Kalmykia (which is a mostly Buddhist republic in Russia) and then pissed on it |
| 18:44.01 | Imperios | Guess what the Buddhist Kalmyks did |
| 18:44.13 | Xho | I would say nothing, but this is Russia we're talking about |
| 18:45.38 | Imperios | They crowded him, beat him half to death and made him apologise to the Buddhist community of Kalmykia on his knees |
| 18:45.50 | Wormy_away | My assessment would be not to ask so much about the psychology of the aliens if we already know they have capacity for culture. The question becomes, how dynamic is their society? One might expect a small or not well distributed population to be less dynamic over a short space of time But if things like agricultural revolutions emerge, it changes the ballgame from such simple predictions |
| 18:45.58 | Imperios | Russian Buddhism best buddhism |
| 18:47.21 | Wormy_away | The Neanderthals barely changed their tools over hundreds of thousands of years. They were as intelligent as us, but lived in small communities so rarely changed ideas, of they did, ideas never spread as quickly around the population. |
| 18:48.29 | Wormy_away | But whatever the cause, a well distributed population will become culturally diverse, or that the society had developed fot whatever reasons into a dynamic society where creativity is no longer a taboo. |
| 18:50.42 | Wormy_away | The Loron we see are a closed society. The females have the intelligence, and possibly the creativity. But the males are trapped to forever repeat their behaviour. |
| 18:51.02 | OluapPlayer | What is this sorcery |
| 18:51.17 | OluapPlayer | We got Imperios talking but only ImpDroid is listed in the user bar |
| 18:51.28 | Imperios | Schrodingerios |
| 18:51.39 | OluapPlayer | u ghost |
| 18:51.42 | Wormy_away | I see Imperios listed. |
| 18:51.49 | Wormy_away | I must have a Sixth Sense |
| 18:52.05 | Xho | I have Imperios as well |
| 18:52.07 | Xho | GOD SAVE THE QUEEN |
| 18:52.09 | OluapPlayer | Must be a glitch on my end then |
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| 18:52.54 | OluapPlayer | Now he's there |
| 18:52.57 | OluapPlayer | u cant hide from me |
| 18:53.46 | Wormy_away | Actually, to an extremely dynamic society, the way modern humans live now would probably what we regard as mediaeval, or far worse. |
| 18:54.52 | Wormy_away | Many of our habits, behaviours etc. are still parochial. |
| 18:55.28 | Imperios | Xho: WHO IS YOUR QUEEN NEXT TO THE MIGHTY PUTIN |
| 18:55.38 | Wormy_away | In the Xeelee Sequence and Orion's Arm, you have tiny engineered humans living in stars, or living in hives, or in societies with only one individual. whatever. |
| 18:55.54 | Xho | Imperios: The queen u dunce |
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| 19:14.39 | Xho | http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/9/92/Shadowrealm2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20160408191310 "I CAN'T SEE SHIT" - Shadowrealmer, 20,000 BNA |
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| 19:18.42 | Xho | OluapPlayer: "The nature of the Shadowrealm is so reviled among the Simulacra that Zran Kar actively refuses to maintain any consistent knowledge of it." That is accurate right |
| 19:19.25 | OluapPlayer | If you really want it to, I guess |
| 19:19.44 | Xho | That was only from what I found in Primordial Darkness when Alhazred mentions that Zran Kar hates the Shadowrealm |
| 19:20.57 | OluapPlayer | Zran Kar hates everyone |
| 19:21.30 | Xho | Except Zran Kar |
| 19:21.33 | Xho | Zran Kar loves Zran Kar |
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| 19:27.12 | OluapPlayer | Goddamnit |
| 19:27.17 | OluapPlayer | As I was trying to say |
| 19:27.25 | OluapPlayer | I would prefer no mention of Zran Kar |
| 19:34.10 | Wormy_away | Technobliterator: Those were some great programmer phrases |
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| 19:34.58 | OluapPlayer | Jesus goddamnit |
| 19:36.10 | DanzaDelMondo | OluapPlayer Xho: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/a2/Haligleoht_the_Allfather.png/revision/latest?cb=20160408193533 Have another form of Alar'xashan |
| 19:36.22 | Xho | SPARKLES, MOTHERFUCKER |
| 19:36.40 | OluapPlayer | That looks like a monster from Bayonetta |
| 19:37.44 | DanzaDelMondo | Which one? |
| 19:40.38 | OluapPlayer | Well |
| 19:40.40 | OluapPlayer | All of them hur |
| 19:41.07 | OluapPlayer | I've not played it but I know it has lots of white/gold armored angel-things |
| 19:44.22 | DanzaDelMondo | >white/gold armoured angel-things |
| 19:44.30 | DanzaDelMondo | I think that'd be most Alar'xashan-related things |
| 19:58.53 | OluapPlayer | Goddamn this internet is unbearable |
| 19:58.54 | OluapPlayer | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/bayonetta/images/d/d9/Glamor.png/revision/latest?cb=20141006000006 anyway stuff like this came to mind |
| 20:03.11 | DanzaDelMondo | I am modelling one of Alar's forms on Judge Dredd |
| 20:03.46 | DanzaDelMondo | Oooh this is beautiful |
| 20:21.58 | DanzaDelMondo | OluapPlayer: What do you think Zran would think of Alar and vice versa? |
| 20:22.05 | DanzaDelMondo | FUCK |
| 20:22.14 | DanzaDelMondo | The judge dredd Alar'xashan would not save |
| 20:22.22 | DanzaDelMondo | Fuck this this was the most beautiful thing ever grre |
| 20:22.30 | Xho | this is why you save in stages |
| 20:23.58 | OluapPlayer | Zran Kar is not keen to other people wanting to take control of things |
| 20:24.06 | OluapPlayer | And he hates chaos |
| 20:24.14 | OluapPlayer | So he has reasons to dislike both of them |
| 20:25.48 | Xho | http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/7/78/Vultusk2016.png/revision/latest?cb=20160408202500 Meanwhile, horrific abomination inbound |
| 20:26.21 | DanzaDelMondo | Beep boop |
| 20:26.23 | DanzaDelMondo | Beep boop |
| 20:27.12 | DanzaDelMondo | Gimme a quote for Alar'xashan's personality |
| 20:27.21 | Xho | "Dickhead" - Caligaduro |
| 20:28.11 | OluapPlayer | "LEGS" |
| 20:29.42 | Xho | OluapPlayer: Would you say that Madiiraxaven gags upon the sight of Vultusk or is she crazy enough to want to bone him/it |
| 20:30.06 | OluapPlayer | Madii - wait i thought it was a her |
| 20:30.26 | OluapPlayer | No she has no intention on boning Vultusk since he's omnicidal and weird |
| 20:30.45 | Xho | Vultusk - the fuck is wrong with you |
| 20:37.59 | Xho | I'm upping the ech on Vultusk's appearance now |
| 20:38.33 | Xho | Because of his steadily decaying husk he has flies and other detritivores seeping out of the openings in his armour |
| 20:39.42 | Xho | I could imagine the occasional pile of necrotic flesh just dropping out of him |
| 20:43.07 | DanzaDelMondo | Hm |
| 20:43.41 | DanzaDelMondo | What would work better as a name for Alar's demons |
| 20:43.56 | DanzaDelMondo | Thrones? Authorities? Dominions? |
| 20:44.11 | Xho | None of them to be honest |
| 20:44.16 | DanzaDelMondo | Rite |
| 20:44.32 | DanzaDelMondo | What do you suggest then hur |
| 20:44.43 | Xho | Hell I dunno |
| 20:44.55 | Xho | My fiction's not exactly the most structured thing ever |
| 20:45.01 | DanzaDelMondo | Also what is a common name for Simulacrum creatures |
| 20:45.05 | Xho | Demons |
| 20:45.10 | Xho | Just demons |
| 20:45.25 | Xho | It depends upon the realm if you're looking for more specific terms |
| 20:45.36 | Xho | Sanguinaries, Repossessors, Sempiternals, Eidolons, Kruos etc |
| 20:47.44 | DanzaDelMondo | Outworld demons would be hmmm |
| 20:48.00 | DanzaDelMondo | Does "Ophanim" work? |
| 20:48.13 | DanzaDelMondo | "Malachim"? |
| 20:48.20 | Xho | Both work |
| 20:48.31 | Xho | I got a question though which sort of unrelated |
| 20:48.37 | DanzaDelMondo | Hm? |
| 20:48.40 | Xho | Is there a word to describe the combination of alchemy and sorcery |
| 20:48.41 | OluapPlayer | yes u can eat a bag of diks |
| 20:48.59 | OluapPlayer | I don't think so |
| 20:49.16 | DanzaDelMondo | Isn't alchemy already sorcery tho basically |
| 20:49.33 | OluapPlayer | More or less |
| 20:49.50 | Xho | I mean combining the physical elements of alchemy with actual hocus pocus |
| 20:50.00 | DanzaDelMondo | Hm |
| 20:50.04 | OluapPlayer | Alchemy already is hocus pocus |
| 20:50.09 | OluapPlayer | Hocus pocus with potions = alchemy |
| 20:50.12 | Xho | dam u |
| 20:50.34 | Xho | I'm trying to give some sort of term for Vultusk's unnatural practices of magic |
| 20:50.49 | DanzaDelMondo | Alchemagic |
| 20:50.52 | DanzaDelMondo | There |
| 20:51.07 | Xho | Since he constructs sewn-flesh husks to inhabit it combines the material basis of alchemy with some satanic incantations |
| 20:51.07 | OluapPlayer | dur |
| 20:51.20 | OluapPlayer | Eh |
| 20:51.25 | OluapPlayer | That's just sorcery |
| 20:51.34 | Xho | Right |
| 20:51.39 | Xho | Fair enough |
| 20:52.06 | Xho | I wonder what school that falls into |
| 20:52.08 | Xho | Manipulation of flesh |
| 20:52.32 | Xho | I suppose it crosses blood magic, dark magic and arcane |
| 20:53.40 | OluapPlayer | Doesn't have to be just one |
| 20:53.51 | Xho | i sed 3 wats wrong wit u |
| 20:55.17 | Xho | Could very well be primal magic as well |
| 20:55.21 | Xho | Or energy |
| 20:56.06 | Xho | Bodily manipulation coupled with veritable insanity |
| 20:56.06 | Xho | Kind of works |
| 20:56.29 | DanzaDelMondo | Bah my inspiration streak for Alar'xashan has ended |
| 20:56.40 | DanzaDelMondo | Time to browse /pol/ again to get inspiration |
| 20:56.45 | Tek0516 | Yay! SpaceX managed to successfully do a barge landing. :D |
| 20:57.08 | Xho | DanzaDelMondo: Golden Age ends in 5 turns |
| 20:59.36 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Vultusk_Kychtdar#Characteristics That's that updated |
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| 21:04.20 | OluapPlayer | GOBSHITE |
| 21:04.39 | OluapPlayer | If Vultusk uses primal magic then he'd be unable to use the Source |
| 21:04.49 | OluapPlayer | Plus you'd have to ask hachi since it's his magic |
| 21:06.52 | Xho | I just left it up to speculation for now |
| 21:07.14 | Xho | I'm 90/10 on the fact that the Order of the Black Sun uses the Source in a really, really fucked up way |
| 21:07.36 | Xho | Like they use arcane magic, put it in a blender and procede to slather it on a pile of nails |
| 21:11.03 | Xho | And then of course eat the nails and vomit it back out |
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| 21:18.40 | Xho | Huh so I was 7,777 days old on Wednesday |
| 21:18.45 | Xho | #TheMoreYouKnow |
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| 21:19.06 | OluapPlayer | dat random |
| 21:19.38 | Monet | Hi |
| 21:19.48 | DanzaDelMondo | iH |
| 21:19.55 | Monet | Something happen? |
| 21:19.57 | OluapPlayer | hi |
| 21:20.24 | OluapPlayer | Nope |
| 21:20.37 | OluapPlayer | In fact nothing happened all day. Quite a boring friday |
| 21:20.48 | Xho | Monet: [22:18] <Xho> Huh so I was 7,777 days old on Wednesday |
| 21:21.31 | Monet | Xho: Okay that is random. |
| 21:21.58 | Monet | I mostly came on because I think this collab fiction idea has gotten bogged down in the physics-building. |
| 21:23.55 | DrodoEmpire | Ah |
| 21:24.16 | DrodoEmpire | I dunno when I'll contribute. >., |
| 21:24.18 | DrodoEmpire | *>.< |
| 21:25.18 | Xho | Well, the Roman Emperor Caracalla died 1799 years ago today |
| 21:25.38 | DrodoEmpire | Huh |
| 21:25.48 | Xho | Margaret Thatcher died 3 years ago today |
| 21:26.41 | DanzaDelMondo | I just realised |
| 21:26.46 | DanzaDelMondo | WE have no war gods in SporeWiki |
| 21:26.47 | Monet | I recall "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" reached no. 1 on that day. |
| 21:27.03 | Monet | Or was it no. 2? |
| 21:27.08 | Monet | No. 2 I think. |
| 21:27.19 | Xho | DanzaDelMondo: Angazhar u idiot |
| 21:27.25 | DanzaDelMondo | Oh |
| 21:27.28 | DanzaDelMondo | I mean fantasyverse |
| 21:27.35 | Xho | In that case no |
| 21:27.49 | Xho | There's no clear cut war god |
| 21:28.17 | DanzaDelMondo | Good because I am going to make Alar into one now hur |
| 21:28.42 | OluapPlayer | I'm pretty sure Crux is listed as a Simulacrum of war |
| 21:28.47 | Xho | Crux is the closest but Crux is just violence and barbarism |
| 21:28.49 | Xho | Or war |
| 21:28.52 | Xho | i dunno lol |
| 21:29.13 | OluapPlayer | "Representation: Instinct, violence, serial murder, war, patron god of carnivores" |
| 21:29.14 | OluapPlayer | Yeah |
| 21:29.14 | Monet | Crux seems like like the god of libido. |
| 21:29.25 | Xho | I'm pretty sure war gods occur in more than one pantheon as well |
| 21:29.37 | Xho | The Orichalcum Elves treated Aur-Ärel as their war goddess so |
| 21:29.47 | Xho | That is among about 5000 other things |
| 21:30.10 | OluapPlayer | Alar can be considered a god of war just fine |
| 21:30.26 | OluapPlayer | But Crux already got dibs on "entity that represents the concept of war" |
| 21:30.45 | Monet | War as bloodshed and violence |
| 21:31.02 | Monet | He's the Ares while I guess Aur-Ärel is more like Mars. |
| 21:31.10 | Xho | I suppose so |
| 21:31.29 | Xho | Aur-Ärel was more concerned with the concept of winning wars rather than the act of war |
| 21:31.52 | Monet | Definitely Mars. |
| 21:31.56 | DrodoEmpire | http://imgur.com/gallery/Ovy4x |
| 21:32.00 | Xho | Tlahl-arÄn was to do with more of the concept of violence and inane bloodshed |
| 21:32.29 | Xho | Since Tlahl-arÄn was their wholly evil deity which represented equally evil things |
| 21:33.36 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Xho/Sandbox#Fantasyverse_Deities Ah that's what I did on my stuff |
| 21:34.10 | OluapPlayer | dats not fantasyverse deities |
| 21:34.11 | OluapPlayer | dats just ur deities |
| 21:34.16 | Xho | User:Xho |
| 21:34.20 | Xho | do u not c dis |
| 21:34.53 | OluapPlayer | u greedo |
| 21:35.08 | Xho | han shot first |
| 21:35.15 | OluapPlayer | fug |
| 21:36.00 | DanzaDelMondo | Alar would be conquest |
| 21:36.04 | Xho | sexual |
| 21:36.13 | OluapPlayer | Vargash is conquest hur |
| 21:36.28 | Xho | y u no read Simulacra page |
| 21:38.21 | Xho | I might start on that other fiction idea I had |
| 21:38.37 | Xho | It was this basic expy of somewhere between the Dark Brotherhood and Faceless Men |
| 21:39.36 | Xho | Thinking about their religion, they kind of worship the void but entirely disregarding Caligaduro/Mortium/Any other deity associated with death or the void |
| 21:40.06 | Xho | Difficult to explain without writing a paragraph on it |
| 21:40.55 | Xho | There was the secondary idea that they worship Nalashtannylor under the moniker of the Nine-Faced God but that's too similar to the Faceless Men |
| 21:41.08 | Xho | With the primary idea too similar to the Dark Brotherhood |
| 21:41.36 | DanzaDelMondo | Monet OluapPlayer: https://data.desustorage.org/tg/image/1446/26/1446264417787.jpg |
| 21:41.59 | DanzaDelMondo | OluapPlayer: I actually think Vargash and Alar overlap a lot |
| 21:42.03 | Xho | "LOL" - Kicath, 2811 |
| 21:42.06 | DanzaDelMondo | THat's a pretty large problem |
| 21:42.25 | Xho | DanzaDelMondo: Well you could go Jyggalag-style order |
| 21:42.38 | Xho | Which is basically "nothing moves so it's all good here" |
| 21:42.43 | DanzaDelMondo | Alar'xashan is based on Jyggalag I think |
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| 21:43.44 | DanzaDelMondo | Well what I know of Jyggalag |
| 21:44.03 | DanzaDelMondo | All I know is that he is a split personality of Sheogorath |
| 21:44.10 | DanzaDelMondo | His original personality even |
| 21:44.48 | dino82_ | hi |
| 21:46.13 | Xho | Not even that really |
| 21:46.21 | Xho | Jyggalag is Sheogorath |
| 21:46.34 | Xho | Oh right I didn't read the third part |
| 21:46.35 | Xho | nevermind |
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| 21:50.50 | OluapPlayer | This needs to stop |
| 21:51.00 | dino82_ | hi oluap! |
| 21:51.03 | dino82_ | Something wrong? |
| 21:51.08 | OluapPlayer | My internet |
| 21:51.12 | OluapPlayer | That's what's wrong |
| 21:52.01 | dino82_ | ah ok |
| 21:55.08 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:MoribundCircle.png Possible mark of aforementioned faction |
| 21:55.54 | OluapPlayer | What now |
| 21:56.31 | OluapPlayer | I must've missed that |
| 21:56.33 | Xho | Possible expy of the Dark Brotherhood/Faceless Men |
| 21:56.48 | Xho | If I scrap the idea I'll just turn that into the Order of the Black Sun's mark |
| 21:57.03 | OluapPlayer | Right |
| 21:57.23 | Xho | Religiously speaking they don't really worship any deity associated with death or the void |
| 21:57.41 | Xho | That is known, anyway |
| 21:58.13 | Xho | The secondary idea was that they were going to worship Nalashtannylor under the name of the Nine-Faced God but that sounds too much like the Faceless Men's beliefs |
| 21:58.27 | Xho | They worship death but they call it the Many Faced God |
| 22:01.15 | Xho | Could just form it into more of a philosophy and say that their deity is nameless |
| 22:02.27 | Xho | A nameless being as formless and as unknowable as the Aethereal Firmament |
| 22:03.39 | Xho | So they are either deluded to the point of insanity or they're exceedingly far ahead of their time depending which way you look at it |
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| 22:06.36 | The_Randomness | Hello |
| 22:06.40 | Xho | meow |
| 22:17.39 | DanzaDelMondo | Xho OluapPlayer: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Alar%27xashan? There you have it |
| 22:17.41 | DanzaDelMondo | Quoooooooooooote |
| 22:17.53 | OluapPlayer | "LEGS" |
| 22:17.55 | OluapPlayer | dere |
| 22:18.42 | DanzaDelMondo | Are his legs really that bg |
| 22:19.00 | OluapPlayer | Yes hur |
| 22:19.08 | OluapPlayer | He's like, 70% legs |
| 22:19.50 | Xho | quoted |
| 22:20.34 | OluapPlayer | >edit conflict |
| 22:20.37 | OluapPlayer | ~eat Xho |
| 22:20.37 | infobot | That's too disgusting. |
| 22:20.44 | Xho | hoh |
| 22:21.23 | OluapPlayer | Lots of bold text going on there |
| 22:21.33 | DanzaDelMondo | BALD |
| 22:21.39 | DanzaDelMondo | Actually speaking of baldness |
| 22:21.44 | DanzaDelMondo | Remember the Borealis Radeon? |
| 22:21.50 | OluapPlayer | Yes |
| 22:24.14 | DanzaDelMondo | I am going to remake them in Spore now |
| 22:26.23 | OluapPlayer | Cool |
| 22:27.51 | DanzaDelMondo | I am going to make them literally bold |
| 22:27.55 | DanzaDelMondo | Like naked mole rats or something |
| 22:27.58 | DanzaDelMondo | *bald |
| 22:30.35 | OluapPlayer | ew |
| 22:42.29 | Xho | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Nihil's_Destined I've just realised that this is basically the really complicated end of the Xhodocto in the Fantasyverse |
| 22:42.36 | Xho | Oh well it's still applicable in its odd way |
| 22:46.06 | DanzaDelMondo | Oh good Spore broke again |
| 22:46.06 | DanzaDelMondo | fuk |
| 22:46.47 | Monet | Ah |
| 22:53.37 | Xho | So no comments on that then |
| 22:53.45 | Xho | Not sure why I even bother coming up with ideas nowadays |
| 22:56.22 | OluapPlayer | Not like everyone here is super eager to make comments on anything |
| 22:56.22 | DrodoEmpire | Sorry, I've been busy |
| 22:56.29 | OluapPlayer | I've got nothing to say |
| 23:00.46 | Monet | It's getting harder and harder for me to keep track of fiction. |
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| 23:12.52 | ImpyDroid | I just realised |
| 23:13.05 | ImpyDroid | L'Ammanori actually lies in Polar Lands |
| 23:13.50 | OluapPlayer | The region it's in probably isn't that cold considering it's right above the Sea of Sand |
| 23:16.04 | Monet | Wel ltechnically L'Ammori could still be classed as a desert. |
| 23:16.14 | Monet | Even if its in the arctic circle |
| 23:16.35 | OluapPlayer | Koldenwelt has no arctic circle |
| 23:16.42 | ImpyDroid | L'Ammanori is vaguely Mediterranean |
| 23:16.44 | OluapPlayer | Regions have definite territories |
| 23:17.12 | Monet | Then... no polar lands? |
| 23:17.40 | OluapPlayer | Try checking what the planet is like before making assumptions |
| 23:17.54 | ImpyDroid | Either it is some sort of icy Russian Italy or there is some Gulfstream equivalent that brings warm water and makes the region hotter than it should be |
| 23:18.02 | OluapPlayer | http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/07/PolarLandsMap.png/revision/latest?cb=20151103213531 all of the white extension is classified as Polar Lands |
| 23:18.16 | ImpyDroid | Monet: What he means is that there is no region called the arctic circle |
| 23:18.32 | ImpyDroid | Wait |
| 23:18.37 | ImpyDroid | >Icy Russian Italy |
| 23:18.49 | ImpyDroid | FUCK THIS I LITERALLY MADE SAINT PETERSBURG |
| 23:19.10 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 23:19.13 | Monet | Well an arctic circle would be defined differently from all these other regions |
| 23:19.28 | ImpyDroid | An arc4ic circle I think would be the north of th3 Polar lands |
| 23:20.12 | ImpyDroid | Clothovera comes from a city of constant miserable rain, swamps and drug addicts |
| 23:20.20 | ImpyDroid | That explains her disposition |
| 23:20.50 | OluapPlayer | hur |
| 23:20.54 | Monet | So the polar lands are more borean than arctic. |
| 23:21.39 | Monet | You know what, never mind |
| 23:21.40 | Monet | It's a fantasy world. |
| 23:22.07 | ImpyDroid | It is but I still need some reason for l'Ammanori not to be frozen |
| 23:22.41 | ImpyDroid | It is a human city, there shouldn't be too many magic in their territory |
| 23:22.53 | ImpyDroid | ~summon Wormy_ |
| 23:22.53 | infobot | apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing Wormy_'s coordinates |
| 23:23.19 | ImpyDroid | How do I explain a city located fairly far north to be still relatively warm |
| 23:23.58 | ImpyDroid | Warm water streams? |
| 23:24.47 | Monet | shrugs |
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| 23:25.46 | OluapPlayer | L'Ammanori isn't even in the far north |
| 23:25.58 | OluapPlayer | There's way more land and water more north to its position in the map |
| 23:26.10 | OluapPlayer | The Vila elf land, that is far north |
| 23:26.38 | ImpyDroid | Actually |
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| 23:27.03 | ImpyDroid | Where is Koldenwelt's equator even |
| 23:27.06 | Wormy_ | hi |
| 23:27.31 | ImpyDroid | Yeah but A) Vila land is magic and B) It is probably really frozen |
| 23:27.35 | ImpyDroid | I |
| 23:27.37 | Liquid_Ink | Hello |
| 23:27.42 | ImpyDroid | Hi |
| 23:27.52 | OluapPlayer | Exactly, so things souther from there would be less frozen |
| 23:27.57 | ImpyDroid | Vilas are from Slavic folklore, so this might as well be ELF RUSSIA |
| 23:28.55 | OluapPlayer | If we had to place an equator somewhere, I guess it'd be at the Sea of Sand and Silver Steppe |
| 23:29.03 | OluapPlayer | But we don't even know if Koldenwelt is a spherical planet |
| 23:29.23 | ImpyDroid | It probably is |
| 23:29.28 | ImpyDroid | Like what else would it be |
| 23:29.30 | ImpyDroid | A cubw |
| 23:29.32 | ImpyDroid | *cube |
| 23:29.36 | OluapPlayer | An infinite plane |
| 23:29.36 | Monet | COuld be flat or on a turtle shell |
| 23:29.41 | Monet | Or maybe balancing on a whale |
| 23:30.24 | ImpyDroid | Whale is actually Caligaduro |
| 23:30.46 | Monet | We had a colossus with 10+km tall spikes |
| 23:30.57 | OluapPlayer | No wonder he's so mad all the time, someone dropped the world on his back |
| 23:31.26 | OluapPlayer | Tritonomarth's spikes were not that large |
| 23:33.10 | ImpyDroid | Even if it is not frozen it is probably not Mediterranean in terms of climate |
| 23:33.18 | ImpyDroid | Temperate maybe |
| 23:33.19 | Jepardi | Imperios: I would say best way to go about it is to have whatever warms the area to be something like the Gulf Stream |
| 23:33.33 | ImpyDroid | Gulf Stream could worj |
| 23:33.44 | ImpyDroid | But the UK is still cold and miserable despite it hur |
| 23:34.44 | Jepardi | Yeah but at the same time its downright hot over here |
| 23:34.47 | Monet | Still warm enough for t-shirts and cream in summer. |
| 23:34.57 | Jepardi | At least for us |
| 23:35.32 | Technobliterator | Ugh. There are actual David Cameron apologists trying to defend him for being a slimy piece of shit. I'm so frustrated right now. |
| 23:35.47 | OluapPlayer | dun care, go work on reckoning |
| 23:37.18 | Monet | I don't care either |
| 23:38.16 | Monet | It's a fucking democracy. Everyone has the right to their own opinion. |
| 23:39.29 | Technobliterator | Everyone has a right to be wrong and to be responsible for these sorts of scum being in power rather than in prison where they should be, yes. |
| 23:39.30 | Technobliterator | :) |
| 23:39.58 | ImpyDroid | Jepardi: >over here |
| 23:40.01 | OluapPlayer | stick that smiley up ur butt thx |
| 23:40.10 | Monet | If you have such a problem *you* run for MP |
| 23:40.13 | ImpyDroid | We live roughly in the same area, is it around 12 C right? |
| 23:40.16 | ImpyDroid | During the sau |
| 23:40.39 | Technobliterator | Why would me running for MP make a difference? ?_? |
| 23:40.43 | Monet | Try and change the system or encourage alternative modes of thought. |
| 23:40.50 | ImpyDroid | *day |
| 23:41.58 | Monet | Technobliterator: Because that's the promise Democracy makes. |
| 23:42.05 | Technobliterator | It doesn't make any promise |
| 23:42.18 | Jepardi | Imperios: Yes, but I meant during the summer |
| 23:42.26 | Technobliterator | None of these people will be indicted. They're too influential because of the wealth they have. |
| 23:42.26 | Monet | HAve an issue with what the government is doing, bring it up with your MP. |
| 23:42.43 | Jepardi | Anything over 20 degrees is considered hot by finns |
| 23:42.56 | Wormy_ | ImpyDroid: Think of Iceland: The region could have a hotspot of rising magma, close enough to the surface for water in the ground to be superheated. Warms lakes and streams would also warm the air around. The region would probably be very foggy and wet however, with a danger of mud volcanoes. |
| 23:43.21 | Technobliterator | I'm actually really disappointed in Iceland, I loved that place, and now I find out their PM was a sack of shit too |
| 23:43.40 | Technobliterator | he resigned, but shouldn't have been given the opportunity to, he should've been jailed |
| 23:43.46 | Technobliterator | no questions asked |
| 23:44.09 | Monet | And peopel wonder why the UK's prisons are so overcrowded |
| 23:44.23 | Technobliterator | yeah, because the wrong people are going to prison |
| 23:44.38 | OluapPlayer | These are some hot political discussions no one asked for |
| 23:44.42 | Technobliterator | We'd rather jail someone for possessing a non-harmful drug than for literally being scum of the earth |
| 23:44.52 | DrodoEmpire | Right, you can't jailed government officials on a whim or because of personal opinion |
| 23:44.54 | Wormy_ | ImpyDroid: You probably don't want geological explanations for a fantasy village, but you could have features like boiling makes and mud volcanoes and create some mythology around the, |
| 23:44.55 | DrodoEmpire | That's called a purge |
| 23:45.05 | DrodoEmpire | *can't jail |
| 23:45.09 | Technobliterator | DrodoEmpire, nothing about this is opinionated |
| 23:45.21 | DrodoEmpire | I know nothing of this Icelandic case but you seem pretty eager to say "Jail them!" |
| 23:45.31 | DrodoEmpire | To anybody you don't like :p |
| 23:45.37 | Technobliterator | Everyone on those Panama papers should've been jailed |
| 23:45.53 | DrodoEmpire | Ah those; Yeah there's a lot of corruption there |
| 23:45.56 | Technobliterator | If we had a criminal justice system that worked, they all would've been |
| 23:46.28 | DrodoEmpire | Right, and who will fix the criminal justice system in a democracy? |
| 23:46.28 | Monet | WHat would imprisoning them do apart from taking up more space. |
| 23:46.52 | Monet | We have prisoner grades because Prisons protect as much as they confine. |
| 23:46.57 | Technobliterator | People who aren't bought off by money? |
| 23:47.27 | Technobliterator | also, Oluap |
| 23:47.35 | Technobliterator | I can't technically work on Reckoning other than Cyrannus front |
| 23:47.43 | OluapPlayer | HOT POLITICAL DISCUSSIONS |
| 23:47.50 | ImpyDroid | Wormg_: Volcanic stuff could work |
| 23:47.53 | OluapPlayer | WHICH >>>>>>NO ONE<<<<<<< ASKED FOR |
| 23:47.54 | Technobliterator | maybe Milky Way front? ?_? |
| 23:47.55 | Wormy_ | ImpyDroid: Oh right, do you a warmer climate? Oh well, the Gulf Stream explanation should work, but I think throwing some warm lakes would make for a good setting. |
| 23:48.03 | Wormy_ | Want a warmer |
| 23:48.39 | ImpyDroid | could work ya |
| 23:50.17 | Monet | I don't want to talk about this. If there is only negativity discussed about a subject what's the point of discussing it? |
| 23:50.56 | Wormy_ | I think because enough people have placed criticism on this subject, it should be dropped. |
| 23:51.16 | Wormy_ | (not from ever being talked about, just this particular) |
| 23:52.33 | Wormy_ | Monet: I've commented on http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:211781 |
| 23:52.50 | Technobliterator | I was venting frustration. I just came away from a really irritating discussion from elsewhere and would rather see whatever's going on here than there. |
| 23:53.07 | Wormy_ | I think yeah, we should move on to discuss the pros/cons and perhaps cast a vote with description of our choices. |
| 23:53.12 | OluapPlayer | Really all you did was sour the mood and derail a fiction discussion |
| 23:53.48 | Monet | Technobliterator: If you need ot vent, don't do it to the detriment of everyone in a public channel. |
| 23:53.49 | Technobliterator | I'm not seeing any fiction discussions? Only ones about temperature |
| 23:54.49 | OluapPlayer | And that's not discussion now |
| 23:55.00 | Monet | They were discussing the climate of a location in the Fantasyverse. |
| 23:55.36 | Technobliterator | Oh. I conflate "fiction" with "fictionverse", "fantasy" with "fantasyverse". |
| 23:55.38 | Technobliterator | Carry on, anyway. |
| 23:56.08 | Wormy_ | Jo: Well ImpyDroid asked me about how to make a warm climate tennable in a cold region of Koldenwelt. I read it as though he only wanted a warm village so suggested Iceland's hotspots. However, that won't effect the climate much so it will want something like the Gulf Stream tpp |
| 23:56.26 | Wormy_ | *too |
| 23:56.37 | Technobliterator | I forget the fantasyverse is a thing |
| 23:56.49 | Technobliterator | since I'm not in it anymore |
| 23:58.55 | Wormy_ | I don't think Techno has done anything wrong, we all rant here sometimes and its hard to predict sometimes if a subject is contentious. I'm not into banning subjects, but I think we all need an awareness at least when people don't want to discuss it. |
| 23:59.20 | Wormy_ | I don't talk about getting drunk much very more here |
