IRC log for #sporewiki on 20160404

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00:57.38AdmiralPandahi all
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02:35.28The_RandomnessHello
02:45.10DrodoEmpirehayy lmao
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12:02.03GhelaeHello.
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12:45.40HachimanHi
12:46.06GhelHi
12:47.17OluapPlayerHai
12:56.11ImpyDroid2iH
12:56.59Wormy_Hooray, first thunderstorm of the year
12:57.30HachimanOh so that is what that was
12:59.56Technobliteratorit just started raining up here
13:00.15TechnobliteratorGhel, can you add a section to Da Reckoning in which Apalos defeat Kal'kuir?
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13:03.47GhelOkay; I should be able to start it soon.
13:21.41ImpyDroid2Wormy_: Why would you cheer for a thunderstorm hur
13:22.02Wormy_They are exciting
13:23.09HachimanIf it is going to rain, it may as well rain in an exciting way
13:23.20OluapPlayerno u get the BORING rain
13:39.17ImpyDroid2Christelle Khoury, former Deputy of Phénicie Sector, born on Prosperitè
13:39.25ImpyDroid2nvm
13:39.56ImpyDroid2Wormy_: When was Fahler abandoned in-universe?
13:41.32Wormy_Yes, Fahler is an in-universe pager
13:41.55Wormy_But it was a colony I had particuarly bad luck on
13:42.08HachimanFahler is the cursed AI world, right?
13:42.10ImpyDroid2In SporeWiki I mean
13:47.03ImpyDroid2Could there be Grimbs born on Fahler for example?
13:47.07ImpyDroid2In the modern day
14:03.03OluapPlayeru will nevr know
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15:42.49Wormy_Hachiman:  Yeah, the cursed wotld
15:43.52Wormy_There will never be Grimbs born on Fahler, it was revealed after an Inog invasion that Fahler is a machine world that evicerated the Inog threat all by itself
15:44.41Wormy_Or living world
15:44.43GhelSo no Grimbs were ever born on Fahler while they were trying to colonise it either?
15:44.46Wormy_Or living machine world
15:45.10Wormy_Maybe, that would been many centuries past though
15:45.35Wormy_I don't know whether all Grimbolsaurians are allowed immortality
15:46.19GhelRight. Well that seems to be what Imp was asking. It was abandoned centuries ago, so there are probably no surviving Grimbs who were born on Fahler.
15:48.23Wormy_I don't want to reject the possibility though.
15:48.36Wormy_If a good proposal is made, I could go for it.
15:51.10Wormy_This needs a lot of work like so many of my pages http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Planet:Fahler
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16:11.01Wormy_Given that the DCP is meritocratic in some ways, perhaps those who lived longer, served the state longer and harder.  So earn more life.  There is much to "work means life, life means work" in the DCP.
16:12.13HachimanPerhaps those who work more enjoy longer and more prosperous retirements
16:14.02Wormy_Possibly.  I imagine work in the DCP isn't any harder than what we are used to, especially given automation.
16:15.18Wormy_But those who are lazy will be treated badly, and possibly lose out all benefits.   Consigned to life on a planet with little to do, or death.
16:15.42Wormy_Planets have very little worth to the DCP in terms of resources
16:16.18HachimanDoes that mean most Grimbs are spaceborn?
16:17.18Wormy_Most Grimbs and other DCP members live in space: whether they be spaceships, stations, or habitats.  Asteroid belts, industrial sized replicators and dyson bubbles form the majority
16:19.00Wormy_There are of course major planets that had historical precedence, and many planetary colonies.  But they tend to be small because most of the DCP's industry is based on space resources or replication.  Space habitats can also be engineered as far better living places than cities
16:19.27Wormy_planetary cities
16:20.03Wormy_It also means that if DCP territory gets invaded, the DCP can simply say "meh"
16:20.38Wormy_Move their space-based colonies out of harms way
16:20.50Wormy_And then commit sector-wide EXTERMINATUS
16:20.51HachimanSo planets are more for sentimental value
16:21.10Wormy_Pretty much
16:22.02Wormy_For the most part a DCP citizen probably can't find anything more damning than being consigned to planetary living.
16:23.37Wormy_Hm, I like this idea
16:23.56Wormy_Imperium of Man can blow up planets that get infested with enemies
16:24.11Wormy_The DCP can blow up an entire infested sector
16:24.35Wormy_Such is SporeWikiverse badassery
16:25.33Hachimanhur
16:25.49HachimanSector-wide extermination is probably a more Necron thing
16:26.02HachimanOr Chaos
16:26.11Wormy_Certainly, those Necrons sound incredibly powerful
16:28.27Ghelhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Da_Reckoning#Another_Slice_of_Apalos
16:29.46HachimanThe Necrons had their own equivalent of a Death Star which was far more efficient for terminating planets than the actual Death Star, known as the World Engine; it had energy shields which were capable of fending off attacks from the sector's fleet and the combined fleet detachments of FIVE Space Marine Chapters
16:31.57HachimanI should also note, the World Engine is a planet-sized vessel
16:34.13Wormy_iinteresting
16:34.23HachimanOh wait, I got it wrong
16:34.32HachimanIt was five named Chapters, 14 Chapters in total
16:34.33Wormy_Ghelaway:  I love the britchmove done by the Apalos using pizza shaped weapons
16:39.10TechnobliteratorGhelaway, awesome work :o
16:39.58Wormy_Indeed
16:40.09Wormy_Hyperspace warfare done elegantly
16:40.29Wormy_My version is to blast the living hell out of everything
16:47.33Wormy_Hachiman:  So in The Division, you have to sign up for missions at a desk.  This meant long queues of angry players lining up in-game.
16:47.41Wormy_lmao
16:47.54HachimanYou didn't but The Division did you
16:48.01Wormy_I'm kind of glad I didn't buy it
16:48.07HachimanAh good
16:48.11Wormy_I guessed it looked a bit dull
16:48.12HachimanYeah it's mediocre at best
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16:51.22Wormy_Yep this game had bad planning https://twitter.com/ODS_Twatter/status/707397529516683264
16:51.25Wormy_hi
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17:02.10XhoW̫A͚̣͓͇K͚̰̘E҉̹̝͙̝̩͍̣ ͜M͓͙̹̻̳̘̼͞E ̻̙̬̀U̻P̷͍ ̰̳͕I̙͝N̶͚͈̰̠̝Ś̖I̱̦͉̩̘D̗́E̡͎͇̼͚ ̰͓̭C̖̰͈̻A̷͖̟̹̱̜̝Ṇ̻̖̱̙̲͘'̢̲T҉̜̪͎ ̗̱͈WA͚̝͟K͎̙̰͈̦ͅE̖ ̹͉͙U͕͟P͕̖͔͚̣̗
17:03.57OluapPlayershup
17:04.33HachimanS͢͠À̷̀V̸̵̡̢͟E͜҉͏ ̧̢̧͜͝M͏̛̕̕͜Ę͘͢
17:06.14HachimanXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsBC-vF0ZeU Relevant
17:06.32XhoYou've shown me the is
17:06.35Xhogod what
17:06.37XhoThis*
17:06.42XhoBut yeah you killed me inside
17:07.19Hachimankek
17:07.34XhoRight so
17:07.38XhoNext Eschaton story coming up
17:07.59XhoThe penultimate story
17:08.27HachimanOh shit
17:09.15OluapPlayerWeren't we gonna wait until after Odyssey?
17:09.27XhoOh yeah
17:09.32XhoWell do dat den
17:09.37HachimanNeeds Imp
17:09.43Xho~summon Imperios
17:09.44infobotapt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing Imperios's coordinates
17:09.46OluapPlayerHachiman: finish prologue
17:09.48XhoNAAAAAAAAAAAAAO
17:10.09HachimanAbout that
17:10.15HachimanI kinda lost the pad
17:10.22OluapPlayerya git
17:10.24XhoULTIMATE TERRIBLE
17:10.31OluapPlayerLook through your browser history ya git
17:10.54HachimanNo I meant
17:11.01HachimanI was working on it before my computer got reformatted
17:11.04OluapPlayerAlso Imp never roleplays on mondays
17:11.18HachimanAfter it got reformatted, I lost it
17:11.23HachimanI had no chance to save it
17:11.26OluapPlayerngh
17:11.38OluapPlayerGuess i'll look through my history then and see if I can find it
17:12.01Xhobak u go
17:14.59OluapPlayerWell bummer
17:15.06OluapPlayerIt's not on my browser history
17:15.16HachimanBugger
17:15.47OluapPlayerWhat's the next Eschaton story about?
17:18.01OluapPlayerLaw of Gods and Men
17:18.06OluapPlayerCaligaduro - VERBOTEN
17:22.53XhoIt's their bid to get rid of Kaicaiusarin
17:23.57OluapPlayerCaligaduro - VERY VERBOTEN
17:27.43XhoHachiman: https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/12920488_1906420496251228_2135370275583094106_n.jpg?oh=2d65fa696412e7f6ad6986500dbdddb8&oe=5779ED7D
17:28.01Hachimanhur
17:28.38Hachimanhttps://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/12933086_10150666096789949_2067616721847437241_n.jpg?oh=8c315901b876f67429a93335fa742e40&oe=57856303
17:29.48OluapPlayerXho: When you had your cat, you ever had something like, tears coming out of its eyes?
17:30.01XhoDepends what you mean by tears
17:30.19OluapPlayerThere's liquid coming out of my cat's eye
17:31.01XhoAre her/his eyes red?
17:31.16OluapPlayerFrom what I can see, no
17:31.21OluapPlayerBut she keeps the eye closed
17:32.31OluapPlayerI've never seen her do this and it's getting me worried, she's already got some sort of ear infection going on
17:33.58XhoIt's probably related then
17:34.07XhoLikely an infection of sorts
17:34.27XhoIs there any discharge
17:34.32XhoLike oddly coloured liquids
17:34.49OluapPlayerThere isn't
17:34.55OluapPlayerFar as I can tell, it seems to be just water
17:35.18XhoNo cloudiness in her affected eye
17:35.41XhoIn comparison to the other
17:35.49OluapPlayerNone
17:35.52XhoHm
17:36.10OluapPlayerPerhaps it was just some irritation
17:36.37OluapPlayerStill I'm worried because getting this cat to take medicine is exceptionally difficult
17:36.51OluapPlayerBecause she's a BITCH who refuses to take her medicine
17:37.00XhoI'd say it's either irritation or at the worst conjunctivitis
17:37.52XhoEither that or it's another symptom to her ear infection which is the most likely
17:38.27OluapPlayerAlways at the worst possible times. I'm alone at home until next week, so no way to get help out of home
17:38.31XhoIs she eating/drinking normally
17:39.15OluapPlayerShe isn't due to us trying to get her to eat/drink the ear infection medicine, which she refuses to do
17:39.23OluapPlayerI did give her normal food a few hours ago though
17:39.48XhoIs she moving about alright
17:40.11XhoAs active as she is normall
17:40.13Xhonormally
17:40.29OluapPlayerShe was last time I saw it, right now she's just laying on my bed
17:40.36OluapPlayerThe 'crying' seems to have stopped
17:40.47XhoIn that case probaly an irritation
17:41.01XhoMy cat used to have that on a normal basis and my other cat still does
17:41.14XhoAlthough for her it's probably out of advanced age
17:41.37XhoThat cat was born in the damn 1990s
17:42.12OluapPlayerold cate
17:42.24XhoAnother thing
17:42.33XhoIs her head tilting
17:46.04XhoAnyway I'd make more of an effort to get her to have her medication
17:46.16XhoEar infections can get serious
17:47.19OluapPlayerWell her head is tilted due to her reaching over to scratch the ear
17:47.42OluapPlayerAnd believe me, i've been trying to get to take the damn medication for 3 days now
17:47.59XhoIs it liquid or tablet?
17:48.13OluapPlayerTablet
17:48.23XhoYeah cats are assholes when it comes to tablets
17:48.39OluapPlayerWe crushed it and put it on a milk plate but she licks it once and immediately backs off
17:48.52XhoIf it came in liquid form you can use a syringe to apply it directly into her mouth
17:48.55XhoAnd there's no escaping that
17:49.34OluapPlayerProblem with trying that is she doesn't let anyone hold her. You try it, she claws you
17:50.00OluapPlayerMy cat is not the sort that lets you carry it around and do as you please with it
17:50.40XhoHm
17:53.05OluapPlayerBut yeah, not having a good time at all right now
17:53.41Wormy_Like my dog.  If I need to feed him a tablet, you have to get it down his gob.  And that means a good chance of being bitten because he has terrier in him.  And he knows how to spit it out of food if I hide it in something
17:54.38OluapPlayerLast time she was sick, she actually vomited out her medication more than once
17:54.55OluapPlayerThis cat is something else
17:58.17Xho"MAN NEARLY DRIVES OFF CLIFF AND IS THEN HIT BY BUS"
17:58.20XhoThat's unlucky
18:06.02Wormy_That's some serious Final Destination shit right there.
18:09.05XhoHe's alive though
18:12.02Wormy_For now.
18:12.47Xhowhat are you going to do
18:14.21Wormy_Not me, I'm not the Grim Reaper.
18:16.47HachimanThat's something only the Grim Reaper would say
18:18.25Wormy_Better not get on my bad side then.
18:19.02OluapPlayerGET IN THE BAG
18:39.11OluapPlayertalk about death killed the IRC
18:42.41Xhogg
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18:47.50HachimanHi Imp
18:49.26XhoAccording to my co-wokers I have a tick
18:49.40OluapPlayerur a tik
18:49.43OluapPlayerHi
18:49.48XhoMy bad, tic
18:49.51XhoNot tick
18:50.29XhoI randomly make clicking noises with my tongue without being aware of it
18:51.46HachimanYou're one of those people
18:51.49HachimanFucking ech
18:52.04Xhoclick
18:52.11XhoHOW OFFENSIVE
18:52.16XhoIM IN TOUCH WITH MY TRIBAL ROOTS
18:52.21XhoOMG CUT FOR TRIBE
18:52.24XhoCUT4TRIBE
18:52.38Xhoi am being sarcastic btw
18:52.48OluapPlayerRABBIT STEW
18:53.16Hachimankek
18:53.25HachimanOr rather
18:53.27Hachimanklek
18:54.41Xhonéva - die
18:57.40Technobliteratorwhat the actual fucj
18:57.44TechnobliteratorHachiman, I just read something
18:57.48Technobliteratorabout MGS2
18:58.09TechnobliteratorApparently, Snake swapping for Raiden as the main protagonist was somehow Kojima's reference to Terminator 2
18:58.24Technobliteratorwhen Schwarznegger turns out to be the good guy this time around
18:58.28Technobliteratorlike what
18:58.43OluapPlayerThat was in the newest Did You Know Gaming
18:59.04Technobliteratoryeah
18:59.22HachimanMakes sense to me
18:59.42Technobliteratorthey're not even similar scenarios
18:59.51TechnobliteratorI have no idea why Kojima thought that was a reference
19:00.25HachimanTo be fair, Kojima does not make a lot of sense a lot of the time hur
19:00.27Technobliteratorok, Snake's introduction in the Tanker scene is a Terminator reference, but I don't see how this switch is when they're completely different
19:00.32OluapPlayerbecause he riked it
19:00.44OluapPlayerAlso go work on reckoning blah
19:01.29Technobliteratornu
19:01.36Technobliteratornot sure what to do next
19:02.22Xhoneeds more nu
19:03.05OluapPlayernu is ded bai
19:03.37XhoGenuinely not sure what Nu is doing
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19:42.51ImperiosHi
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19:51.58Quark8Hello.
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20:21.43DrodoEmpireHi everyone
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20:30.18MonetHello
20:32.27ImperiosWormy_: Remember that Grimb lady I made?
20:32.38ImperiosCould she have served under Kilnok at some point?
20:40.21HachimanBack
20:40.25HachimanCooked and ate pizza
20:40.27HachimanHam and pineapple
20:40.56Imperios>pineapple and ham
20:40.57Imperios>pizza
20:41.02Imperiosew
20:41.19Xhofrankenpizza
20:41.38HachimanDON'T YOU FUCKING START
20:41.45DrodoEmpirePineapple is great on pizza I dunno what you're talking about
20:42.30HachimanBECAUSE ANCHOVIES GO SO FUCKING WELL WITH PIZZA DON'T THEY
20:43.14XhoAND JALAPENOS LOL
20:43.25XhoHachi takes a leaf out of Xho's book
20:43.29Xho10/10 on the execution
20:43.38XhoA FUCKING PLUS YOU HAIRY CUNT
20:43.43Hachiman<3
20:45.38Xhohttps://www.facebook.com/TheUncleAwesome/videos/1596588537334577/?permPage=1 Dolgan and Kilchárunya about Kalcedia
20:46.13Hachimanolol
20:46.15ImperiosI remember seeing a pizza with Caesar salad
20:46.24ImperiosLike literally a pizza you put elements from Caesar salad on
20:46.30HachimanSalad doesn't fucking go well with even salad
20:46.42HachimanSALAD DOESN'T FUCKING GO WELL WITH ANYTHING, NOT EVEN ITSELF
20:48.17Xho" My relationship with my hand will definitely last forever <3"       Random dude on Facebook, who proceeded to like his own comment
20:48.21XhoThis is the loneliest man in the wrld
20:48.23Xhoworld
20:49.37MonetI always tohught salad went great with paninis.
20:50.23HachimanI thought you said painis then
20:50.58DrodoEmpiresalad does *not* go great with painis <.<
20:51.04XhoNor does it with painis
20:51.44ImperiosHachiman: Salad is good
20:51.52ImperiosWhy would you not like salad
20:51.59ImperiosSalad goes good with everything
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20:52.01HachimanBecause I do not like salad
20:52.05ImperiosEven by itself
20:52.05HachimanIt is subjective hur
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20:52.11DrodoEmpirefuk
20:52.15HachimanI like some components of salad, but not salad as a whole
20:52.15ImperiosI eat salad with soy paste by itself hur
20:52.17MonetSalad-hater.
20:52.30ImperiosLike actual salad leaves + soy paste
20:52.38HachimanYeah, I'm not fond of salad leaves
20:53.04HachimanBut then for some reason my parents like to eat it with I think mayonnaise
20:53.18HachimanAnd I am not too fond of mayonnaise hur
20:53.49XhoRabbit dislikes leaves
20:53.52Xhogtfo
20:53.53MonetSO you hate lettuce.
20:54.01HachimanYeah, lettuce
20:54.09HachimanI like carrots though
20:54.32MonetActually Xho that's quite apt. My family owns three rabbits and were told that lettuce makes rabbits sick.
20:54.43MonetBut they love cabbage.
20:57.05MonetSO HAchi is true rabbit.
20:57.40HachimanExcept I hate cabbage hur
20:58.47MonetALmost true rabbit
20:59.09Monethough even rabbits have tastes.
20:59.51MonetNo joke one of the family rabbits' favourite foots is wallpaper.
20:59.52Monetfoods*
20:59.58Hachimanhur
21:00.50Imperios>salad leaves with mayonnaise
21:00.51ImperiosEW
21:01.08XhoHow about
21:01.09Xhosteak
21:01.17HachimanBlue steak is the only true steak
21:01.24Xhosí
21:01.26HachimanSo rare that it's still breathing
21:01.39Xho"THE STEAK IS SO RAW                 IT' STILL SINGING HAKUNA MATATA"
21:01.47Hachimankek
21:02.01XhoI had a 26 oz T-bone steak cooked blue once
21:02.05XhoNever forget, never regret
21:02.10Hachimanolol
21:02.12HachimanBut Jesus
21:02.23XhoIt was the most blissful half hour of my life
21:02.40HachimanI can imagine
21:04.09ImperiosSteal is meh
21:04.15Imperios*steak
21:04.18ImperiosChicken best meat
21:04.31ImperiosWormy__ Monet DrodoEmpire: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Kz%27nt Dere
21:04.39ImperiosI made a thing, take a look
21:05.01ImperiosAlso tell me if it is okay if I mentioned some of your folks hur
21:05.05Imperios*some of your chars
21:05.18Xho"Warlord Kilnok: ...Notice me~ "
21:05.19Xhoeh
21:05.20XhoEHHHH
21:05.21XhoEHHHHHHHH
21:05.26Xho[clicks externally]
21:05.49ImperiosThey're both Grimbs
21:05.50ImperiosWhy not
21:06.06Xho"I AM THE SCALES OF JUSTICE          CONDUCTOR OF THE CHOIR OF DEATH"
21:06.23Monet"Slaughter of New Essex" if it was anything like Old Essex then few probably mind the catastrophe.
21:06.31Hachimankek
21:10.40HachimanXho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hod0WtYE4SA Whenever Tibias appears in fiction; alternatively, whenever Santorakh makes an appearance
21:10.41MonetTHis woman loves her explosions.
21:10.56Hachiman"When a nigga try to roast you but you boutta end his whole life in one sentence"
21:11.16ImperiosXho: She is based on the Bullet Farmer yes
21:11.20ImperiosLook at her head
21:11.53Imperios"Obama's first day in office be like"
21:12.08XhoHachiman: Good grief
21:13.41ImperiosMonet: Also
21:13.43Imperios>The saturation bombing continued for one hour until all of the city, with all people inside it, was reduced to a molten mixture of metal, plastic, toxic waste, human flesh and blood. France, whose journalists dubbed the battle the Slag Slaughter
21:13.48Imperios>France, whose journalists dubbed the battle the Slag Slaughter
21:14.07ImperiosI did my research on British culture this time hur
21:14.13HachimanSLAAAAG
21:14.58Monet>slag >essex
21:15.10MonetNice resrarch
21:15.35HachimanI mean most people from Essex are a mixture of plastic, human flesh, blood and toxic waste already
21:15.46Xhohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1buC21vrBfM Nu when he got possessed by Santorakh
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21:17.05ImperiosI am not even sure why I named a French world "New Essex"
21:17.29ImperiosMaybe it was sold to France or something
21:19.39Wormy_South of England became part of the European Star Alliance, which could have then solid it to France
21:19.45Wormy_*sold
21:20.05Wormy_The southerners are almost French anyway
21:20.25ImperiosI was told that the opposite is also true
21:20.35ImperiosAs in the northern French are almost English
21:20.44Wormy_Lol
21:20.48ImperiosWhile at the same time hating England the most
21:21.07Wormy_That's true, we get along with Southern Frenchies
21:21.21Wormy_Most people who move to France prefer the south
21:22.16MonetMight be because it's sunny
21:23.18HachimanYou know, I still wanna make a hobgoblin faction for the Fantasyverse
21:23.26HachimanA coalition of kingdoms or something maybe
21:24.10Wormy_Wewll like what Impy saying, I've heard Southern French don't hold us at disdain
21:24.24Wormy_Not like the Northern French anyway
21:24.40ImperiosWormy_: Take a look at the page hur
21:24.46Wormy_Actually, Brittainy doesn't hate us at all and wants to get closer to the Celtic nations
21:25.17Wormy_There are even polls that showed a good fraction wanted to secede from France and join the United Kingdom
21:25.45Wormy_People from Brittainy and people from Wales can understand each other's languages
21:25.51Wormy_Right I will#
21:25.54ImperiosCould there be some sort of pan-Celtic union
21:25.59HachimanPerhaps hobgoblins are yet another creation by the Cobalt Kingdom and are a considerably young race in the world, like the dwarves
21:26.10DrodoEmpireYeah Brittany is actually Celtic in nature- Not French
21:26.24ImperiosLike make Scotland and Wales secede when put it together with Brittany and the Isle of Man
21:26.28Imperios*then
21:26.35Wormy_Don't forget Cornwall
21:26.39ImperiosThrow Ireland into the mix too
21:26.58Wormy_There is a strong Cornish independence movement.
21:27.22Wormy_Perhaps England and rest of the UK will split into Celtic, Saxon and Dane tribes
21:27.49Wormy_It is the next step for the dissolution of Britain from a global empire back to tribes
21:28.07Wormy_English towns have enough rivalry for it
21:28.16XhoI'll go join the Danes methinks
21:28.51HachimanWell I suppose I have to be Saxon
21:28.56ImperiosRETURN TO INDIA
21:28.58Wormy_I will return to my ancient land of Northumberland and Cumbria, which my ancestors once ruled (it is true)
21:29.03ImperiosI WAN' BRI'N TO BE 'BOU' BRI'ISH
21:29.36Wormy_I am of blue blood
21:29.39DrodoEmpireWormy_ For the UK to dissolve back into its ancient tribes would be... Interesting to say the least
21:29.53Xhothrows Imperios into the sun
21:29.54Wormy_A fitting conclusion
21:30.15Wormy_Right, I'm now gonna read about Kz'nt
21:30.16ImperiosSilly Xho, this is not the sun
21:30.21XhoOM NAMAH SIVAYA
21:30.22ImperiosThis is just the radiance of OUR GRORIOUS READER
21:31.06Wormy_DrodoEmpire http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/03/14/britons-still-live-in-anglo-saxon-tribal-kingdoms-oxford-univers/
21:31.34Wormy_http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/science/2016/03/14/viking-boat-1_2466272b-large_trans++pJliwavx4coWFCaEkEsb3kvxIt-lGGWCWqwLa_RXJU8.jpg
21:31.47Wormy_That picture is from an ancient Viking festival in Scotland
21:32.03DrodoEmpireFascinating
21:32.18MonetDrodoEmpire: If England does fracture int oa dozen tribal nations I'm going to see if I can move to London.
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21:32.26HachimanHai
21:32.27DrodoEmpireI see
21:33.07Xhowolololuap player
21:34.30Wormy_Imperios:  I love what I'm reading so far
21:35.33OluapPlayerFEH
21:36.52XhoFEH u
21:38.41Wormy_Imperios:  Perhaps one of Kilnok's trials of retribution will be to find her
21:39.17Wormy_Kilnok was made to conduct 12 heroic trials to clean up the mess the DCP has made in the past by an enigmatic species of quantum ghosts
21:39.33ImperiosOo could be interesting
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21:39.55Wormy_This is what I have so far http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction%3ADCP-Vermulan_War/Trials_of_Kilnok
21:40.05OluapPlayerGhost - go do dat shi         Kilnok - who the fuk r u         Ghost - GO DO DAT SHI WE SAID
21:40.45XhoHerculean Kilnok
21:41.01ImperiosHi
21:41.19ImperiosTybusen: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Captain:Kz%27nt I made a Grimb lady
21:41.28TybusenHello
21:43.30Wormy_Imperios:  Perhaps Kilnok fights Kz'nt in a Luke Skywalker-esque duel of sadness, though rather than  Kz'nt being killed, he gets to the source of her madness and calms her soul
21:43.40ImperiosCould be
21:43.57Tybusenshe just wants Kilnok-senpai to notice her
21:44.01OluapPlayerthen they have terrifying space cockroach sex
21:44.22XhoTau - i have no fears          except the imagery of that
21:44.52HachimanKirunoku-senpai
21:45.06XhoAngazhar - KISAMAAAAAAAAA
21:45.34TybusenKirunoku-senpai!! Mite kudasai!~<3
21:45.45OluapPlayerKoluap - perks of being dead         not having to see that shi
21:46.37ImperiosPerhaps I should have made her male hur
21:46.38ImperiosThen again
21:46.39Imperios...NO
21:46.49Xho"Anime was a mistake" - Koluap, 2810
21:47.28Wormy_There i no romance in my fiction
21:47.36Wormy_Perhaps I could break that
21:47.52ImperiosNO
21:48.14Wormy_Perhaps it is the only way for her madness and slaughter to end
21:48.14OluapPlayermaybe
21:48.27XhoGrimbolsaurian romance
21:48.29XhoWhat a time to be alive
21:48.30Monethttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfM0BgnXIAEnEDp.jpg:large so this is going to be Aquaman
21:48.32XhoAnd not a good time either
21:48.47XhoMonet: JASON FUCKING MOMOA
21:48.56XhoKHAL FUCKING DROGO
21:49.03OluapPlayerWhat's with all the black
21:49.07OluapPlayerAquaman's goth phase
21:49.26XhoI think it's largely the editing
21:49.47OluapPlayerIT'S NOT A PHASE SUPERMAN             THIS IS WHO I AM            OUTRAGEOUS
21:49.59ImperiosMonet: He was shown in the movie
21:50.07ImperiosHe can swim super fast in the water or something
21:50.13MonetSurely if anyone can make Aquaman intimidating it would be the guy who palyed Khal Drogo.
21:50.24ImperiosHe use his trident to throw waves of energy as well as for transportation
21:50.27Imperios*uses
21:50.44HachimanExcept Imp thinks Drogo looks like a literal fag
21:50.51XhoAquaman is a demigod though isn't he
21:50.56HachimanI almost typed Drodo for a momnet
21:50.57Wormy_Anyway thanks Imperios, this gives me new things to play with
21:50.57Hachimanmoment
21:51.22ImperiosHe looks like a literal fag
21:51.24XhoDrogo was Game of Thrones' ultimate badass
21:51.30ImperiosBut who says fags cannot be threatening
21:51.37XhoRussians apparently
21:51.37OluapPlayerI don't actually know much about Aquaman, but isn't he like Superman-tier strong?
21:51.51ImperiosWe need the Martian Manhunter
21:51.54XhoI think he's described as strong/stronger than Superman
21:52.05XhoAnd Superman's fucking broken as it is
21:52.09Imperios"James B. Henderson concludes the first section of Part II with an overview in Chapter 9 of neural networks and their application to NLP problems. He considers multi-layered perceptrons (MLPs), which contain hidden units between their inputs and outputs, and recurrent MLPs, which have cyclic links to hidden units."
21:52.13MonetClassic Aquaman is borderline  on land.
21:52.21ImperiosLook what I found in science papers
21:52.26Monetborderline useless*
21:52.39ImperiosApparently my future is working with MLPs
21:52.43XhoI like to know who the main villain is though
21:52.50Xhoof the DCEU
21:52.53ImperiosDarkseid I think
21:53.00Xho>darkseid
21:53.03Xhoawful
21:53.10HachimanThe DC directors are the main villains
21:53.15ImperiosNo
21:53.20ImperiosSnyder is fucking awesome
21:53.20XhoIf they use Darkseid it's basically just a shadow of Thanos
21:53.33XhoThe more I think about it the more I liked Batman V Superman
21:53.33Imperioskicks Hachiman into a well
21:53.47XhoJust that it was as messy-as-fuck film
21:53.54ImperiosHis only problem is that he tries to copy Nolan too much
21:53.54HachimanI am not doubting Snyder is a good general director, but come on
21:53.56ImperiosWhich is shit
21:54.00MonetCue a resurgent torrent of flame wars of "Darkseid/Thanos is better"
21:54.07ImperiosI wonder if it is him or his superiors tho
21:54.09XhoI prefer Thanos over Darkseid
21:54.13HachimanThanos
21:54.30ImperiosI dunno about that
21:54.38XhoI'm not too big on Thanos either though
21:54.38HachimanAlso, as far as I know, Aquaman is fucking useless on land
21:54.47XhoDormammu is much better
21:54.47HachimanUnless he retains his superior strength on land
21:54.51Quark8Who are Thanos and Darkseid?
21:54.57ImperiosBig grey alien people
21:55.07XhoThanos is the main villain in the Marvel Extended Universe
21:55.14HachimanEssentially gods / demigods
21:55.28ImperiosXho: Darkseid's overall goal and character are better but Thanos has a more interesting and deeper motivation
21:55.31XhoCinematic Universe even
21:55.43ImperiosThanos is in love with the Grim Reaper basically
21:55.47XhoDarkseid looks like a bloody potato
21:55.48MonetOne of Aquaman's key abilities is being able to telepathically command fish.
21:55.57ImperiosThat's his main motivation
21:56.29ImperiosDarkseid is just a dictator, but damn his dictatorship is cool
21:56.33MonetBeing able to talk to fish is pointless when you're not in the ocean.
21:56.46ImperiosHis ultimate motivation I think is to find the mathematical proof that life sucks
21:57.30MonetDakseid - I spent a day on Tumblr. So much for neeing maths ot find proof.
21:57.35ImperiosThanos is "MUST PLEASE GRIM REAPER-SENPAI~ BY KILLING EVERYONE"
21:57.47ImperiosDarkseid is "MUST MAKE EVERYONE'S LIFE SUCK"
21:58.35ImperiosHe also has a literal granny for a minion
21:58.44ImperiosWho is actually a child soldier recruiter
21:58.50ImperiosThanos...
21:58.59ImperiosMonet: What minions does Thanos have?
21:59.05ImperiosIn the comics that is
21:59.13XhoI don't know enough about the DC Universe
21:59.14MonetThanos' other problem is that whenever Thanos becomes super-OP Lady Death leaves him.
21:59.37ImperiosAll I remember is that he killed everyone and then was like "NOTHING LEFT TO KILL = DEATH-SENPAI DOES NOT NOTICE ME ANYMORE"
21:59.43MonetImperios: There was Nebula in the original Infinity Gauntlet Arc.
21:59.53ImperiosMonet: Right
21:59.57ImperiosWel
22:00.04MonetDeath also likes it when he gets killed.
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22:00.17ImperiosEvil granny > generic blue space lady
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22:00.22ImperiosSo Darkseid is better
22:00.25HachimanThere needs to be more Green Goblin
22:00.43ImperiosHachiman: Maybe he'll be in the Marvel Spider Man
22:00.48MonetThough I think Nebula left him because he was an ass to her
22:00.57OluapPlayerOh god I just remembered
22:01.01ImperiosMonet: Actually
22:01.04OluapPlayerHachiman: Do you have the link to that Ice Age pic
22:01.12HachimanWhich one?
22:01.17ImperiosWho else do we have in DC for ultimate villains
22:01.19OluapPlayerThe one with Ainsley
22:01.21ImperiosOther than Darkseid
22:01.26HachimanOh God I might
22:01.30OluapPlayerShow it to Xho
22:01.33ImperiosI only remember Necron and Anti-Monitor
22:01.39MonetImperios: Brainiac?
22:01.39ImperiosAnd i literally do not remember anything about the later
22:02.05ImperiosI thought he wasn't a "XHODDIES :333333" level-threat
22:02.45HachimanAfraid not, the URL expired
22:02.47XhoThere's Trigon
22:03.33OluapPlayerdum
22:04.00ImperiosNekron I think was a Green Lantern villain
22:04.13ImperiosLike some sort of undead guy
22:04.18HachimanI thought Necron were a Warhammer 40,000 race
22:04.18Imperiosundead god or something
22:04.25ImperiosHachiman: Two different necrons hur
22:04.35ImperiosThere's a DC character called Nekron
22:04.42ImperiosAnd he's basically a C'tan if you think about it
22:04.57JepardiXho: Funny you mentioned Dormammu http://i.imgur.com/TtvwgJr.jpg
22:05.07ImperiosHachiman: http://static8.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/120679/3066880-2013-05-22+07-48-21+-+green+lantern+(2011-)+020-036.jpg
22:05.18Xhoaye
22:05.22ImperiosDormammu is the bearning head guy right?
22:05.27XhoYes
22:05.35XhoHe's arguably more powerful than Thanos as far as I can tell
22:05.44HachimanYeah but I do not think the directors could light a black man's head on fire for a film and get away with it
22:05.49ImperiosAll I remember about him is creating Venom
22:05.53MonetHachiman: Confusion is understandable given the origins of 'Nekros'
22:05.58ImperiosHachiman: Human Torch
22:06.01Hachimanolol
22:06.11HachimanXho: "Has anyone seen Stevie Wonder's wife? No? Neither has he."
22:06.19JepardiThe black man in the photo is actually Baron Mordo
22:06.21Xhoouch
22:07.54MonetAny idea how they're going to epxlain those outfits in 21st centur NYC?
22:08.02Xhomagic snort snort
22:08.13MonetI know Strange can look damn good in a tux.
22:09.07MonetActually my money is that if they include the backstory, we *will* see Cumberbatch in a fine suit.
22:09.14XhoSeriously though if Mads Mikkelsen gets cast as Dormammu
22:09.27XhoThat would be utterly terrifying
22:10.55ImperiosXho: Feel the power of PC
22:11.00XhoThankfully from what we've seen so far he isn't
22:11.07ImperiosI still want an important Asian character in Marvel tho
22:11.14XhoMads Mikkelsen is among the most terrifying actors ever
22:11.14ImperiosBut stil
22:11.17ImperiosFUCKING PC
22:11.49Monet<PROTECTED>
22:12.20HachimanWas Dormammu's lead henchman black before>?
22:12.25OluapPlayerI'm not paying attention to the discussion so for a second I thought this turned into console wars
22:12.32Xhohttp://img12.deviantart.net/b8cc/i/2011/215/d/4/dormammu_cosplay_by_freakshan-d43smok.jpg I'm sad now
22:13.22XhoBenedict Cumberbatch is an exceptionally strange looking individual though
22:13.30MonetPunny.
22:13.34Xhodur
22:13.54MonetI think he works.
22:14.24XhoI think as someone from the UK you're either a Benedict Cumberbatch fan or a Tom Hiddleston fan
22:14.29ImperiosMonet: Dormammu - MUH NIGGA
22:14.43ImperiosNever though it of it that wa y
22:14.48Monethttp://www.screendaily.com/pictures/636xAny/9/5/2/1223952_Doctor%20Strange.jpg this is COmic Strange
22:15.05MonetXho: I kind of like both.
22:15.32JepardiI am personally more excited for Iron Fist and Luke Cage than most MCU movies
22:15.39MonetMainly because I've ocme to the conclusion that I'm a sucker for British-played villains.
22:16.21JepardiThe Netflix series have featured the best villains in the MCU to date
22:16.39ImperiosMonet: Funny because the whole reason I never went to Winter Soldier despite really liking Captain America was because I thought there'd be a hoard of racial stereotypes
22:16.50ImperiosMCU villains such in general
22:16.59Imperios*suck
22:17.04XhoI dunno about DC
22:17.05ImperiosExcept maybe for Ultron and Loki
22:17.09ImperiosLex was fairly cool
22:17.25XhoAlthough I don't know enough about DC it looks much more jarring than Marvel does
22:17.34MonetI don't htink there really was much sterotyping in WInter Soldier.
22:17.35XhoIn terms of consistency between settngs
22:17.41Xhosettings
22:17.52ImperiosMonet: I expected there to be some evil Russians hur
22:17.53JepardiImperios: Purple Man, Kingpin and Punisher leave Loki and Ultron in the dust
22:18.03ImperiosJepardi: Oooh Kingpin
22:18.09MonetMost of HYDRA in that film were American.
22:18.15ImperiosYeah that
22:18.32MonetWell we did see some Russians pulling Bucky out of the snow if that helps.
22:18.55ImperiosThis reminds me
22:19.04HachimanI'm not gonna go into how I feel about BvS' Lex Luthor
22:19.05MonetThough the closest we got to a racial sterotype was perhaps Batroc.
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22:19.10dino82_hi all
22:19.18MonetHi
22:19.20XhoI dunno how well X-Men: Apocalypse is gonna go
22:19.21XhoHi
22:19.29OluapPlayerHi dino
22:19.40ImperiosThe Russian dub of the recent Civil War trailer actually removed the Russian Army insignia from the footage
22:19.49XhoApocalypse is a cool villain as well but I think he's going to be easily susceptible to being done wrong
22:19.49HachimanI feel that Lex Luthor in BvS was very poorly cast and directed and is not loyal to the Lex Luthor of the comics
22:19.52MonetX Men: Attack of the Smurf God
22:20.07HachimanAnd that is all I am gonna say about it
22:20.09OluapPlayer"I'm not gonna go into how I feel"        proceeds to go into how he feels
22:20.09dino82_Howz all doing? Aything going on?
22:20.12OluapPlayerYA BLEW IT
22:20.13OluapPlayerEEJIT
22:20.17ImperiosHachiman: Badly directed perhaps
22:20.30XhoI have faith in Oscar Isaac though, he's a good actor
22:20.33ImperiosAs a separate character I think he works very well
22:20.38ImperiosBut he's a bad Luthor yeah
22:20.47MonetImperios: Wait doesn't Winter Soldier have the Red Star on his arm?
22:21.00ImperiosThen again his motivation is still ver much Lexy
22:21.22HachimanYes but comic Lex Luthor does not act like a fucking hipster retard
22:21.35Imperios>fucking
22:21.37Imperios>hipster
22:21.38Imperios>retard
22:21.47ImperiosWait what actually
22:21.54ImperiosHe is not a hipster hur
22:22.09Hachimanstill tarded tho
22:22.11ImperiosAs in I do not see the simile
22:22.23ImperiosYou didn't see the movie did you
22:22.39HachimanI couldn't sit through it
22:22.41ImperiosHe is somewhat self-conscious in some scenes but otherwise is very reserved and fairly manipualtive
22:22.42MonetI'm going to risk arbitrating here and say Imp might have a better idea of how Lex comes off in the film itself.
22:22.56XhoJesse Eisenberg looks like a very thin version of John Cena
22:23.00ImperiosSo yeah he is not retarded
22:23.00XhoSeriously take a look
22:23.01HachimanProbably since he finished the film
22:23.08ImperiosNot a hipster maybe
22:23.19ImperiosWhy did he
22:23.27ImperiosHis performance was very unique
22:23.59ImperiosLike I do not see why he would be retarded
22:24.01HachimanNo I meant you finished the film hur
22:24.26ImperiosHachiman: Thing is
22:24.31ImperiosThe best part of the film is the finale
22:24.51ImperiosSo you should have just waited until the end
22:25.09HachimanYeah but I am not going to slog through two hours of constipation just for a shiny turd at the end
22:25.16HachimanSeriously, BvS is far too long
22:25.20ImperiosAgree
22:25.22HachimanEven if it were a good movie
22:25.23Imperios>shiny turd
22:25.25XhoIndeed
22:25.25ImperiosIt was not a turd
22:25.30ImperiosYou did not see it
22:25.41XhoJESUS FUCKING CHRIST STOP ARGUING
22:25.42ImperiosBrilliant Zack Snyder-like action
22:25.43XhoSERIOUSLY STOP
22:25.46XhoJUST FUCKING STOP
22:26.02XhoRight got that out of the way
22:26.03Xhocontinue
22:26.11Wormy_calm down and drink your milk
22:26.16ImperiosYeah Zack Snyder action
22:26.22Xho>calm down           >drink milk
22:26.23HachimanLike I said, I couldn't sit through it but the action was decent
22:26.26ImperiosVery stylised, elegantly directed
22:26.29XhoPICK ONE YOU NORTHERNER
22:26.29Imperios>decent
22:26.38OluapPlayerCalm down and GET IN THE BAG
22:26.39ImperiosYou did not even see the final fight how can you say that hur
22:27.04dino82_lol
22:27.08ImperiosThe action was *decent* in the middle of the film
22:27.22XhoSeriously though stop arguing because I'm getting sick of this
22:27.32ImperiosoK
22:27.33ImperiosOk
22:27.45HachimanYeah, I'm still sticking by what I have seen even if I did not finish it
22:28.00ImperiosAnd I will be sticking by what I have seen
22:28.05HachimanThen that's fair enough
22:28.08MonetLet's all agree that Imperios thought the film was okay...ish, and Hachi thought it was a titanic pile of crap.
22:28.13OluapPlayerGood now shut up and change subject hur
22:28.17Imperios7/10 I'd say
22:28.18Imperios7/10
22:28.26ImperiosMaybe a bit less
22:28.32Imperios6.66
22:28.35HachimanI'd give it maybe a 4.5/10
22:28.39Imperiosc
22:28.52XhoGal Gadot though
22:28.59XhoEven I think she's hot
22:28.59ImperiosThe doomsday battle and Gal Gadot are worth 2 points
22:29.21Imperios>changing subject
22:29.22HachimanNonetheless, I do not think I am going to see the Justice League movie
22:29.25ImperiosLOOK AT MY GRIM LADY
22:29.26HachimanAnd stick to Marvel
22:29.27ImperiosGRIMB LADY
22:29.31ImperiosPLZ
22:29.36ImperiosWhy not both hur
22:29.46OluapPlayerfuk ur grim lady
22:29.47HachimanBecause DC is not impressing me right now hur
22:29.53HachimanTrust me, I love Justice League but damn
22:30.07ImperiosAs in why not watch something out of principle
22:30.10ImperiosAnyway
22:30.13ImperiosGRIMB LADY
22:30.14ImperiosPLZ
22:30.15ImperiosQUOTES
22:30.17ImperiosOPINIONS
22:30.18ImperiosAND SHIET
22:30.21XhoDC's never appealed to me as much as Marvel
22:30.23OluapPlayerLong page/10
22:30.23HachimanI have no one to quote with hur
22:30.34OluapPlayerAnd same
22:30.34ImperiosQuote Jaharan then hur
22:30.34XhoMainly because I found the setting hard to understand
22:30.34HachimanI will just stick to the cartoon Justice League movies
22:30.37ImperiosI just made giant pages hur
22:30.38HachimanThey are pretty good
22:30.41Imperiostwo giant pages
22:30.46ImperiosHachiman: VAMPIRE BATMAN
22:30.55ImperiosMEXICAN IMMIGRANT SUPERMAN
22:31.00HachimanI never saw that one actually
22:31.03HachimanI have been meaning to
22:31.09OluapPlayervampire batman                that's just batman tho
22:31.15HachimanThey look interesting but they are not on my priorities
22:31.15XhoWith teef
22:31.16ImperiosBut
22:31.21ImperiosMEXICAN IMMIGRANT SUPERMAN
22:31.38HachimanI do not see what is so hard to understand about that hur
22:31.46HachimanHe could have landed literally anywhere
22:31.54Hachimaninb4 Red Son
22:31.55ImperiosCan only be matched by
22:31.58ImperiosUKRAINIAN SUPERHOHOL
22:32.04Imperiosdammit ninjad
22:32.34ImperiosYeah SUPERHOHOL is beter
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22:32.38XhoMexican Immigrant Superman
22:32.38Imperios*better
22:32.47XhoI just get the idea of Superman flying around in a poncho
22:32.56HachimanHe has a Mexican moustache
22:33.01XhoSo more like Superhombre really
22:33.05OluapPlayerThis sounds like a dumb Donald Trump joke
22:33.13HachimanIt's not
22:33.16Monet"It is a very good thing mainline Superman landed in AMUHRICA"
22:33.35ImpyDroidHachiman: I wish red son had a Ukrainian moustache
22:34.08HachimanThere was a DC cartoon movie set in an alternate universe where Superman was adopted by a family of Mexican migrants instead of American farmers
22:34.39JepardiImperios: This scene shows exactly why MCU Kingpin is way more threatening and overall better than Spadertron https://youtu.be/MlG3oLyVcAc?t=138
22:34.42HachimanAnd Batman was a merciless vampire who killed criminals like a fucking smart person
22:34.58XhoAge of Ultron wasn't that good the more I think about it
22:35.05XhoUltron was quite useless
22:35.36JepardiAnd I'm really sad about that
22:35.49ImpyDroidUltron was good but DAMN was it too fasr
22:35.56ImpyDroidAoU is a reverse BvS
22:36.00ImpyDroidBvS is a snail
22:36.13ImpyDroidAoU is a roadrunner
22:36.50MonetUltron - Meep meep strings!
22:37.23Xho"SOMETHING SOMETHING STRINGS                SOMETHING SOMETHING WIPE OUT HUMANITY"
22:37.53ImpyDroidXho: http://s00.yaplakal.com/pics/pics_preview/7/2/9/2107927.jpg
22:37.58ImpyDroidActually wait Magneto
22:38.02Xhoheh
22:38.03JepardiNetflix Marvel villains have that over the movie villains, that they have have an entire season dedicated to them rather than two hours
22:38.08MonetSpadertron was initmidating at furst, then he jsut became funny.
22:38.32OluapPlayerXho: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=659414314 they're trying to make it official
22:38.39dino82_for those that love seeing space ships crash :D : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKza_DRY82U
22:39.07XhoOluapPlayer: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOH.avi
22:39.28MonetOne of my best moments was when Ultron was fying a Quinjet, and Hulk jumps i nthe back, you hare a "Oh for G--- sake!" and he goes flying out the back.
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22:40.02MonetTHat or its after he gets all his bots punched up, he says "yknow, with the benefit of hindsight--" and Hulk punches him over the horizon.
22:40.54XhoIt had its funny moments
22:41.52ImpyDroid2dino82_:https://youtu.be/wcX9BqNCRqU
22:41.54ImpyDroid2https://youtu.be/wcX9BqNCRqU
22:42.07MonetOne curious thing I picked up
22:42.24dino82_oh my what just crashed on vader?
22:42.55MonetElysium and AoU both have amoral South African antagonists. PLayed by the same guy.
22:43.14OluapPlayerXho Hachiman: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/052/410/c1f.png
22:43.28ImpyDroid2Monet: Fucking Gollum peeking everywhwre
22:43.36ImpyDroid2Actually about Gollum
22:43.43XhoOluapPlayer: 11/10 would hug
22:43.51ImpyDroid2Hachiman: Apparently Andy Serkis's surname is a short form of
22:43.56ImpyDroid2Sarkeesian
22:43.59Technobliteratoralright, I need to sleep soon, but screw it
22:44.03TechnobliteratorI really want to do Reckoning
22:44.27OluapPlayermoov
22:44.30HachimanSarkisian
22:44.34HachimanNot Sarkeesian
22:45.03ImpyDroid2Two forms of the same surname
22:45.07Technobliteratornot sure which to moov
22:45.18MonetImperios: Oh wait you're right, I got confused
22:45.22ImpyDroid2<PROTECTED>
22:45.30OluapPlayerFinal Front
22:45.47Technobliteratoryeah but on the other hand
22:45.50ImpyDroid2MY PRECIOUS GAMERGATE
22:45.53Technobliteratorthe other three fronts are in such a good spot
22:45.55ImpyDroid2BRING ME THE PRECIOUS
22:46.00Technobliteratorthat I'm tempted to moov one of those instead
22:46.22Technobliteratorespecially Milky Way front, that's two and a half sections off completion
22:46.24ImpyDroid2Technobliterator: I just had an idea for the Andromedan FRONT
22:46.24HachimanI think Black Panther should get his own film or series
22:46.30ImpyDroid2He will
22:46.30TechnobliteratorOh?
22:46.37ImpyDroid2In 2017 I think
22:46.48XhoMy friend and I are thinking that Mark Strong should've played Malekith rather than Christopher Eccleston
22:46.53MonetImpyDroid: You're right he is getting everywhere
22:46.54MonetHe was Snoke.
22:46.56Technobliteratoryup, Black Panther and Spider-Man both get their own films straight after Civil War is released
22:46.58Wormy_Jo:  I'm going add another section too
22:47.01XhoChristopher Eccleston doesn't exactly scare people
22:47.01OluapPlayerDon't you need other people to work on the other fronts?
22:47.18TechnobliteratorNice, Wormy :o
22:47.19HachimanXho: I personally like Eccleston
22:47.19TechnobliteratorNope
22:47.26Wormy_I've got at least two lined up
22:47.26TybusenTechnobliterator: That reminds me, I wanted to do some RPing for the Bunsen Loron appearance at some point
22:47.28TechnobliteratorI can technically follow up on all three of them now
22:47.30XhoOh I like Eccleston as well
22:47.34HachimanI think he is a good actor but maybe not as Malekith
22:47.35TechnobliteratorYeah, sure
22:47.35ImpyDroid2BTW guys
22:47.38TechnobliteratorWhen are you free?
22:47.43XhoMark Strong actually has a record of being villains though
22:47.46ImpyDroid2http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/0/00/Christelle_Khouri.png/revision/latest?cb=20160403214358
22:47.48ImpyDroid2Seen?
22:47.58HachimanI saw that
22:48.01TybusenTechnobliterator: I think I'm free Wednesday?
22:48.04HachimanLooks pretty good
22:48.09Technobliteratornice]
22:48.10Technobliteratorso am I
22:48.13OluapPlayerIt's a person indeed
22:48.13Technobliteratorlet's do iiiiit
22:48.13MonetTHor 2 was a bit corny.
22:48.20TybusenWait actually maybe not Wednesday
22:48.21TechnobliteratorThor 2 was a mess, yes
22:48.28ImpyDroid2OluapPlayer: HUMANS
22:48.42TybusenI can say with certainty that I could do it on Thursday or Friday
22:48.42TechnobliteratorThor 3 I hope will be good
22:48.55TechnobliteratorIt's got the Hulk in it, so that's a good sign
22:49.05TechnobliteratorThose are all free for me
22:49.13TechnobliteratorThis is my last week of break
22:49.13TybusenAlrighty, that sounds good
22:49.23Technobliteratorand like
22:49.26TybusenI'm already back in school haha
22:49.31TechnobliteratorI have courseworks in but the deadline is not til ages
22:49.37Technobliteratorand I'm almost done with two of them
22:50.08ImpyDroid2Hoolk
22:50.23TechnobliteratorMark Ruffalo is such a legend
22:50.24ImpyDroid2Hulk is best superhero, make more Hulk plz
22:50.26ImpyDroid2SMASH
22:50.36OluapPlayerSaying HUMANS at me doesn't scare me, I got humans of my own now
22:50.37TechnobliteratorI wish the Hulk had his own superhero series with Ruffalo
22:50.51TechnobliteratorThey can just retcon out The Incredible Hulk or something
22:50.56HachimanI hope that we get to see a live action Red Hulk fight
22:51.06XhoThey can't do much with Hulk really
22:51.09XhoBruce Banner, yes
22:51.46ImpyDroid2Hachiman: They will return General Ross in Cap x Iron Man
22:51.52ImpyDroid2So it is a chance
22:51.54HachimanI can imagine it now; the Hulk and the Abomination are duking it out when suddenly Red Hulk comes in and fucking jobs the Abomination
22:51.56ImpyDroid2Xho: SMAAASH
22:52.06Technobliteratorthe sad thing is
22:52.09ImpyDroid2Hachiman: Leader plz
22:52.11TechnobliteratorThor is a great character
22:52.15Technobliteratorbut he has boring films
22:52.26ImpyDroid2Technobliterator: >great character
22:52.29XhoI like the settings of Thor
22:52.30ImpyDroid2Because AAAAABS
22:52.37HachimanAnd long blonde hair
22:52.44Technobliteratorno he's just cool
22:52.47Technobliteratorhe's a demigod
22:52.52XhoThe characters are all quite interesting as well
22:52.54ImpyDroid2A demigod
22:53.02ImpyDroid2With AAAABS
22:53.07XhoEspecially Heimdall because everyone should have a man-crush on Idris Elba
22:53.11ImpyDroid2(I am just jealous lol)
22:53.13MonetHAchiman: There was an Agents of SHield episode that hinted Blonsky's on ice in Alaska.
22:54.14dino82_@imperios: Oh nice image!
22:54.37dino82_anyone else anticipated for Game of Thrones?
22:55.02HachimanI am
22:55.06Quark8I
22:55.07MonetI really wish I had time
22:55.08XhoEhh I guess so
22:55.09HachimanJust to see if Jon is still alive or not
22:55.24Quark8I never liked Jon.
22:55.25MonetSo far I'm content watching Daredevil and House of Cards.
22:55.35XhoSeason 5 kind of halted the entire flow of it with a shitload of death
22:55.40XhoA shitload
22:56.25XhoThinking about it I doubt Jon is alive
22:56.25dino82_Great! Me too! Can't wait haha
22:56.39dino82_oh yeah House of Cards, awesome! Sad another wait for year
22:56.50XhoI mean Bran's making an appearance in it
22:56.52XhoAs well as HODOR
22:56.57MonetI'm close to clearing Season One so I don't mind.
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22:57.27The_RandomnessHello
22:57.42MonetBut MAN is Frank Underwood an asshole.
22:57.52XhoI'd say my favourite character in GoT is probably Jaime
22:58.00XhoHe's the most complex character out of all of them
22:58.25MonetHello
22:58.46HachimanI do like Jaime
22:58.59Hachimaninb4 Oluap is screaming because Game of Thrones
22:59.28Xho[cries in snek]
22:59.32Hachimansssss
23:01.07OluapPlayerI was not even here until now
23:01.42dino82_HodoR!
23:01.51dino82_And hopefully the blackfish and Riverru again
23:02.23dino82_Hope to see more of the north again, hope it gets taken back or so (by any of the old bannermans)
23:02.31dino82_for example what happened to the Greatjon!
23:03.00HachimanAye; more of the North, less of fucking Daenerys
23:03.13XhoI think the gist of Season 6 will be "MOUNTAINSTEIN CRUSH"
23:03.46HachimanRobert Strong?
23:03.50Xhosí
23:04.01HachimanWhat a fucking shit name that is btw hur
23:04.43XhoWell it's better than saying the "animated unliving abomination that was once Gregor Clegane"
23:05.41dino82_@Hachi: Me too, loft the norht. Stern and harworking people
23:05.52dino82_haha and looks creepy
23:06.02HachimanNeeds Sandor getting his shit together and coming back to kill Strong and slap Arya hur
23:06.07dino82_haha
23:06.15dino82_And they should release Margeary
23:06.31dino82_and nice ot see Kevan Lannister back, finally a Lannister who knows how to rule and manage things
23:07.19Quark8I feel like I should watch the entire show before commenting on it. Also, dino82_: isn't Kevan Lannister dead?
23:07.45dino82_@Quark: Awesome series, though sometimes with expliciet or gruesome scenes but cool none the less. Some shocking things happen haha
23:07.58dino82_No, his elder brother -spoiler - Tywin is dead - spoiler
23:08.17ImpyDroid2I'd say FUCK YOU
23:08.21ImpyDroid2But it is dino
23:08.35ImpyDroid2I'll just try to forget that
23:10.01ImpyDroid2Hachiman: BTW about that Khouri girl, she is going to be the PAE's chief diplomat
23:10.15ImpyDroid2And I will try to make her as flirty/slutty as Charles will let me
23:10.17HachimanSilly xenos, trusting a humie to represent them
23:10.21Hachimanaw yis
23:10.44Quark8dino82_: Have yu read the books?
23:10.48Quark8*you
23:10.48HachimanWell she is a French girl; I expect her to have unshaved armpits and be a whore
23:10.52XhoHachiman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVQQTLZMkFY Oberyn
23:11.36MonetHachiman: Dat nationalist.
23:11.44HachimanCan we just ask why that guy had a human skull and was crushing it with a vice
23:11.51Xhoscience
23:11.54ImpyDroid2Hachiman: French but not French ethnically
23:11.56ImpyDroid2>Khouri
23:12.02HachimanAh, Nigerian
23:12.13ImpyDroid2>the fact that I used the Alhassan model to make her
23:12.15OluapPlayer>unshaved armpits
23:12.17OluapPlayeradvances denied
23:12.27ImpyDroid2Weren't Nigerians yours
23:12.34ImpyDroid2I thought France had Niger
23:12.45HachimanAren't Nigerians from Niger
23:12.51ImpyDroid2No
23:12.57ImpyDroid2Nigerians are from Nigeria
23:13.20HachimanThen, what do you call a person from Niger
23:13.20dino82_@qUARK: yes I have, very nice though at some point waaaaaaaaay differant than the show but still
23:13.25HachimanSurely you don't call them a
23:13.25ImpyDroid2Apparently
23:13.30ImpyDroid2Nigeriens
23:13.39ImpyDroid2hon hon hon
23:13.40dino82_@impy: Haha you dont agree with Kevan/Tywin?
23:13.54OluapPlayerYou spoiled him
23:14.01ImpyDroid2There is Niger and Nigeria
23:14.03OluapPlayerNext time put the spoiler warning before the actual spoiler
23:14.07ImpyDroid2And then there is the river Niger
23:14.19ImpyDroid2That goes through both countries
23:14.41dino82_@imperios: whoops! Didn't knew that he didn't knew yet! Srry!!! will keep me mouth shut :P
23:14.43ImpyDroid2Niger is form "Egerew NIGERew"
23:14.51ImpyDroid2River of Rivers
23:14.58HachimanMay as well just call them by the same name
23:15.03ImpyDroid2Aye
23:15.21OluapPlayerNIGGOS
23:15.29ImpyDroid2Anyway the diplomat lady is at least supposed to be of Lebanese descent
23:15.30OluapPlayerTHE WORD WE WERE ALL THINKING BUT NOT SAYING
23:15.34Hachimanhur
23:15.52ImpyDroid2qt Maronite lady
23:15.54Hachiman"What word should you never call a black man which begins with N and ends with R? ... Neighbour."
23:15.56MonetWell aren't there a significant number of West Africans that consider themselves French?
23:16.03ImpyDroid2Salma Hayek ^_^
23:16.18DrodoEmpireMonet: French is spoken in Africa a lot
23:16.20ImpyDroid2Monet: Yes but Nigerians are not part of that group
23:16.24DrodoEmpireEspecially West Africa
23:16.28ImpyDroid2They get to you
23:16.58MonetIpyDroid2: One loophole is that "French" in the 28th century is a very broad definition.
23:17.24MonetIt's been mentioned that there are humans, near-humans and non-humans that identify themselves as French.
23:17.25OluapPlayeraka all of humankind
23:18.07HachimanImpyDroid2: I would like to see the actor who played the main antagonist in Avatar play Ross / Red Hulk
23:18.38ImpyDroid2OluapPlayer: Ayw
23:18.52ImpyDroid2Monet: She is French by nationality yeah
23:18.58MonetSo in orther words it's not just humans that consifer themselves French.
23:19.15Monetconsider*
23:19.48MonetI get the geeling now that French has become the Orion League's de facto trade language?
23:20.16ImpyDroid2Monet: https://youtu.be/U4plSk9pAJE Arachnids join the French Empre
23:20.18ImpyDroid2*Empire
23:20.33DrodoEmpireIts probably become a widely-used trading language in general
23:20.43DrodoEmpireI imagine its a fairly common second language in the Drodo Empire
23:21.21DrodoEmpireEspecially for any government workers who'd have to deal with French tourists all the time and would sooner not have to suffer through broken Aratacian <.<
23:21.31ImpyDroid2Monet: I tend to think that aliens think all humans act like French
23:21.56ImpyDroid2This gives me a new possible slur for humans in SporeWiki
23:22.03ImpyDroid2"baguette monkeys"
23:22.43DrodoEmpireeh
23:23.05ImpyDroid2As in France is considered to be the emblematic human culture
23:23.13Monet*Perhaps*
23:23.42HachimanHachi - I'M NOT A FUCKING FRENCHIE
23:23.43MonetMaybe if the rise of the Orion League allowed for a newfound growth for French cinema.
23:24.10MonetActually that reminds me
23:24.15OluapPlayerGardin - u want a baguette up where now
23:24.39MonetCOnsidering that by the 2700s the two world wars will be far behind humanity, would "cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys" still exist?
23:25.15HachimanI dunno, I imagine the "French are so brave because Napoleon" trope would have died even earlier
23:25.16TybusenI'd imagine not considering France becomes by far one of the most powerful human factions
23:25.18MonetIN fact is it apt considering that France now has superpower status
23:25.26DrodoEmpireMonet: Probably not
23:25.44TybusenAmericans might keep it alive for old times' sake, who knows
23:25.58MonetMaybe.
23:25.59DrodoEmpireHachiman: The French had a fearsome reputation for more than Napoleon
23:26.00DrodoEmpire:p
23:26.14HachimanYes but not as recently as their reputation in WW2
23:26.23MonetYou still complain British people have bad teeth despite UK citizens on average requiring the least number of fillings per person.
23:27.21DrodoEmpireHachiman: I think many more recent events would've long since redeemed their reputation
23:27.23MonetAnd eve nthe WW2 reputation is inaccurate
23:27.24DrodoEmpireEven RL
23:27.28DrodoEmpireThat too
23:27.32HachimanTrue
23:27.58MonetFrance didn't surrender - half of it did. And the other half fought a secret war with the occupied government.
23:28.58MonetPop culture gave is CESM. But it also gave us La Resistance.
23:29.03HachimanPlus, I imagine the space French would have just wrote that embarrassment out of their history books and whitewashed it
23:29.50DrodoEmpireNo, chances are it was remembered for what it was and not really touched on very much because it happened seven hundred years ago
23:29.56TybusenThough it's hard to blame France for falling victim to the unstoppable war machine that was Nazi Germany at the time
23:30.02DrodoEmpireThat'd be like the French still being bitter over Agincourt
23:30.19dino82_French has been a dominent power in europe for years, fought wars in pasat times with Kingdom of England, Belgium, Holland etc
23:30.24TybusenReally the only thing that was able to stop the Nazis at their apex was copious amounts of water
23:30.26dino82_had a great colonial influance in africa
23:30.34HachimanAnd the Soviets :p
23:30.38MonetPerhaps by the 2800s calling the Frech cowards due to WWII is as relevant as to calling British stuck up and unfun due to Cromwell.
23:30.45TybusenThat's why I said "copious amounts of water"
23:30.47Tybusensnow is also water
23:30.51Hachimanhur
23:30.57DrodoEmpireMonet: Precisel
23:30.59DrodoEmpire*y
23:31.09DrodoEmpireIt'd be an absurdly outdated stereotype
23:31.32TybusenThen again the British are still portrayed as stuffy in America
23:31.41MonetStuffy yes
23:32.15MonetBut even most Brits agree Cromwell was an unfun dickhole.
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23:32.29DrodoEmpirehur
23:32.30HachimanThat is because Cromwell WAS an unfun dickhole hur
23:32.50HachimanI am anti-royalist but damn did Charles II know how to bring Britain out of stagnation
23:32.55MonetHAchiman: Yes. He was stuffy even by British Stereotype standards.
23:34.35MonetAlthough I'd argue spend a weekend in Birmingham, MAnchester or South/East London. The opinion of stuffiness might be destroyed.
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23:35.08HachimanHonestly I kinda feel that SW's France is just getting on a bigger and bigger high horse for it to ride on
23:35.11DrodoEmpireYeah I never really had the idea the British were particularly up-their-own-ass
23:35.13HachimanAnd needs to come down soon
23:35.37MonetThey're a rising star.
23:35.41DrodoEmpireHachiman: Right the GXS set up a world order where most nations are on a pretty even playing-field
23:35.50DrodoEmpireIts era of meteoric rise is at an end
23:36.07HachimanExcept it just recently became a Highlord nation in the PAE hur
23:36.09DrodoEmpireIts not on a "high-horse" from which it has to dismount from imo
23:36.11HachimanSo it is still rising
23:36.23Monet"I imagine the space French would have just wrote that embarrassment out of their history books and whitewashed it" France is not Japan.
23:36.24DrodoEmpireRight, that came about as part of its restructuring
23:36.48HachimanTrue
23:37.27MonetHachiman: I rememebr you rooted for the DCP as they ran rampant across the Milky Way.
23:37.40MonetWhich included crushing France.
23:37.48HachimanFrance lost in that affair?
23:37.55HachimanI know the Imperium lost
23:38.46MonetWhat I'm getting at is there may be a hint of bias in the idea France needs to come back down to earth.
23:39.03DrodoEmpireRight, Hachi has an opinion
23:39.07DrodoEmpireI have an opinion
23:39.10DrodoEmpireYou have an opinion
23:39.11MonetIndeed he does.
23:39.17OluapPlayerMy opinion is me > u
23:39.23DrodoEmpireOpinions are essentially and inherently biased things
23:39.29HachimanAnd I rooted for the DCP because as far as I know, they were not prosecuting anybody and it felt like they were shoved into the position of the Other by other nations although I may have it wrong
23:39.32DrodoEmpireSo what you said is a bit of a non-statement
23:39.53OluapPlayerI rooted for the DCP because I like them the most hur
23:40.12DrodoEmpireThe DCP represented the status quo that a lot of nations perceived as repressive
23:40.21DrodoEmpireAnd so the powder-keg was bound to pop
23:40.24Tybusenpersonally I was rooting for the Seattle Seahawks
23:40.26MonetHachiman: The fight against the DCP wasn't exactly unwarranted.
23:40.54DrodoEmpireThe Drodo just stayed out of it because they had some nutty Archduke in charge
23:41.29MonetOne of France's grievences was the DCP were going around doing as they pleased, one example being how the DCP basically exploited the existence of the Quadrantia run.
23:41.40TybusenDrodoEmpire: TBF though, a war against one of the eminent powers of the Milky Way is not an easy commitment for a nation
23:41.52DrodoEmpireYeah
23:42.08MonetDCP ships were using it with no regard for the usage agreements its other operators had made. And when France had a problem, the DCP resorted to piracy along the route.
23:43.30HachimanSo France kicked off a storm with an older and more reputable power
23:43.56HachimanActually, is the DCP older? I remember it canonically being less than a few centuries old
23:44.03TybusenDCP is actually younger than France
23:44.08DrodoEmpireThe DCP is ~700 years old?
23:44.14Tybusen~400 years is what I remember
23:44.14infobotTybusen: okay
23:44.22Tybusenum
23:44.31DrodoEmpireTyb: Is that including or excluding prespacefaring history?
23:44.34MonetAs a nation
23:44.34MonetAs a spacefaring power some DCP members are up to 1200 years old.
23:44.49TybusenIndividual parts of the DCP are older but the Coalition itself is 400 ish
23:44.52HachimanStill far more involved and reputable on account of participating in saving the entire damn Gigaquadrant on multiple occasions
23:45.19DrodoEmpireI mean France, if you include its history back to the Treaty of Verdun is about 2000 years old by the time of the fictionverse
23:45.20TybusenBeing a reputable power doesn't mean that there aren't people unhappy with you
23:45.23DrodoEmpire^
23:45.27HachimanTrue
23:45.31MonetThat was another issue the Orion League had: The saved'the'niverse free pass.
23:45.35TybusenA lot of people dislike what America does
23:45.48DrodoEmpireAnd "reputable" is a matter of opinion. Drodo would respect their power but many would be critical
23:46.20DrodoEmpireThe DE avoided dealing with them; At least, until after the schism
23:46.22TybusenAnd it's irritating when Americans defend the questionable actions of the American government because of this idea of "protecting freedom and democracy" and how America is the "world police"
23:46.32MonetFrom what I've seen of France's philosophies, being an older poer means jack if just being older is a reason for being respected.
23:46.42HachimanYeah but that is because America tends to make everything worse and cause more problems than it solves
23:46.59Quark8Test
23:47.23TybusenThe question is then, at the time of the GXS, was the DCP in that position of an overreaching power that was causing all kinds of problems?
23:47.46DrodoEmpireTyb: It was certainly firmly in the position of superpower
23:48.05DrodoEmpireAnd in the years leading up to the schism had done some shady stuff
23:48.17HachimanYeah but every nation does its own fair share of shady stuff
23:48.32DrodoEmpireYeah but the DCP made some pretty gross violations, to be fair
23:48.35MonetDoesn't mean other nations let it slide
23:48.42MonetEspecially if said shady stuff is ding done to other nations
23:48.44dino82_have to go
23:48.46dino82_bye bye all
23:48.47DrodoEmpireBye!
23:48.48TybusenThe DCP got away with a disproportionate amount of shady stuff for a long time
23:48.50TybusenBye dino
23:48.54Quark8Bye.
23:48.58XhoDelpha Coalition of Space North Korea
23:49.09DrodoEmpireolol
23:49.20XhoI need sleep
23:49.25TybusenThere's the numerous sapient rights violations on their own people, and many many war crimes that went unprosecuted
23:49.38DrodoEmpire^
23:50.39TybusenThe TIAF was willing to overlook these problems because they thought the DCP was a trustworthy friend and they wouldn't become a target, though when they discovered the wide-reaching DCP espionage program, that broke down their trust and also made them willing to get angry over the DCP's crimes
23:51.13TybusenThat, at least, is how the TIAF came to wanting to tear down the DCP order
23:51.13HachimanPerhaps the DCP did abuse their power and perhaps there is some sinister social and government issues in the background but it is not like they have not done the Gigaquadrant massive favours a fair number of times... The espionage program may be a bit too far however
23:51.40Hachiman*are some, even
23:51.56MonetThere was also something of an ideological clash.
23:52.09TybusenHachiman: I think it's easier to think of it this way: does a superhero who has saved the city many times get a free pass for kicking dogs and children on the street because they save the city
23:52.10Xho"USE BAGUETTE TO SMASH COCKROACH"
23:52.33DrodoEmpireHachiman: Right, the acts of nations (or even of individuals) aren't some karmic balancing act
23:52.36TybusenThere's no right answer to that question but the XA view was that no, the hero doesn't get free reign to do anything they want
23:53.14HachimanI know and I am not claiming the DCP is entirely innocent or entitled for its crimes to be ignored
23:53.17MonetThe XA saw the DCP as abusers to the gigaquadrant's trust in them.
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23:53.36DrodoEmpireHi
23:53.39TybusenHello
23:53.58Wormy_Drodo is right, the DCP is over 740 years old, though that's still quite young.
23:54.24Wormy_Some of it's members have been spacefaring for much longer, to make up for it
23:54.36Wormy_hi
23:55.17MonetTO nations like France, perhaps the DCP was some new and scarier Russia.
23:56.32MonetIt helped save lives one or two times, sure, but its still a police dictatorship with an enormous well-supplied army and was practicalyl omniscient.
23:57.16HachimanBut they have still significantly contributed to and protected the Gigaquadrant; their involvement lends itself to numerous vital successes and victories and as far as I know, while they attempted to bend the rules and promote their own society, they still worked as Gigaquadrantic defenders
23:58.00Wormy_Don't forget however that just because it's authoritarian, doesn't mean it;s citizens are unhappy.
23:58.06DrodoEmpireRight, they were gigaquadrantic defenders, but they also trampled on the sovereignty of other nations, and generally worked with a heavy hand
23:58.12DrodoEmpireIn some instances, it did
23:58.22DrodoEmpireEven if for the right reasons
23:58.49MonetFrom what we saw, the XA were grateful, they just weren't keen on the way the DCP acted when it wasn't saving the universe from demons or the Grox.
23:59.29HachimanSo, the DCP is a flawed faction; now what were the equivalent antagonistic actions and traits of France during that conflict?

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